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Introducing Tiffany Welles!!

I like her already!

by Anonymousreply 3409 hours ago

Lord, she was vapid..

by Anonymousreply 101/28/2019

Try east coast sophistication, bitch!, r1!

by Anonymousreply 201/28/2019

Puleaze She lasted one season and barely had any lines the first 5 or 6 episodes.

by Anonymousreply 301/28/2019

The season 4 intro with Miss Shelley Hack! Yay!

by Anonymousreply 401/30/2019

She was pretty.

by Anonymousreply 501/30/2019

Tiffany Welles could kick ass too!

by Anonymousreply 601/30/2019

Couldn't you just have bumped the Tiffany thread from just from a few weeks ago?

by Anonymousreply 701/30/2019

But since there's this thread, Tiffany was by far at her most entertaining in this episode as purse twirling street hooker who tough talks the abusive pimp. Too funny.

Poor Jaclyn has a massive camel toe in those tight pants. That couldn't have been comfortable.

by Anonymousreply 801/30/2019

I think DL talks about Shelley Hack more than any other cast member from CA. We are obsessed.

by Anonymousreply 901/30/2019

I know I am. Long live Tiffany Welles!

by Anonymousreply 1001/30/2019

I noticed her as a pre-gay boy. I think she was acting like a "gay man", or maybe she is really lesbian. Who knows.

by Anonymousreply 1101/30/2019

I always think how great it would have been if they'd gone with Barbara Bach. Or I wonder what would have happened if the show went another season without Smith. Poor Cheryl Ladd.. Tiffany never made any appearances again like Farrah, did she?

by Anonymousreply 1202/05/2019

J'adore Tifanny.

by Anonymousreply 1302/05/2019

Tiffany has the French streetwalker look down pat.

by Anonymousreply 1402/05/2019

Today Tiff is driving an 18 wheeler.

by Anonymousreply 1502/15/2019

Kim Basinger was runner-up to Cheryl to replace Farrah. They gave her a consolation prize the following season with a guest starring stint.

by Anonymousreply 1602/15/2019

Kim appeared on the 1st season with Farrah.

by Anonymousreply 1702/15/2019

DIdn't Cheryl and Jaclyn have any say in the matter? I mean, they just are suddenly told that their co-star has been fired and they didn't have ANY input?

by Anonymousreply 1802/17/2019

R18 TV actors rarely have any say in anything. Only if they're producers as well. It's mostly up to the network.

by Anonymousreply 1902/17/2019

She was the prettiest angel so long as she got to wear her Northeast clothes and hair. That she didn't get to do on Charlie's Angels. They just put her in the same shit style the other girls had and it looked horrible on her. She was her prettiest in the casual preppy look.

by Anonymousreply 2002/17/2019

They just didn't dress the gals like this on Charlie's Angels.

by Anonymousreply 2102/17/2019

and a glamour shot with all three of them. she's the one that clearly stands out in the photo.

by Anonymousreply 2202/17/2019

R22 Cheryl looks awful in that pic - Shelly was beautiful

by Anonymousreply 2302/17/2019
by Anonymousreply 2402/18/2019

Tiff!

by Anonymousreply 2502/18/2019

She was lovely to look at, but the walking and talking side of acting is what did her in.

In OP's clip she can't even sit down on the couch without looking like she really had to think about it hard.

by Anonymousreply 2602/18/2019

I was just going to post what R26 did. She's more meant for stills.

by Anonymousreply 2702/18/2019

R26 eats shit!

by Anonymousreply 2802/18/2019

"Kidnapping for prostitution...white slavery."

by Anonymousreply 2902/18/2019

The last few episodes she did she locked herself in her dressing room and did her own hair and makeup.

by Anonymousreply 3002/18/2019

Shelley trashed in Charlie's Angels The Truth Behind the Rumors TV special. Her part starts 14:00 in.

by Anonymousreply 3102/18/2019

Don’t believe everything you hear. Fools.

by Anonymousreply 3202/18/2019

Did they not invite Shelly back when she had TWO more episodes to film before the season was over? That had to be rough..

by Anonymousreply 3303/08/2019

Eat shit!

by Anonymousreply 3403/08/2019

We call it doo doo.

by Anonymousreply 3503/08/2019

Her hair was awful on CA - limp, lifeless. As if she was anorexic.

by Anonymousreply 3603/08/2019

Exactly R36. That's why midway through she started doing her hair and makeup by herself. THAT'S what really pissed them off.

by Anonymousreply 3703/08/2019

Shelley was stiff.

by Anonymousreply 3803/08/2019

They recycled Farrah’s intro for Shelley with the just finished typing, oh here’s another stack bit.

That should’ve been her first clue.

by Anonymousreply 3903/08/2019

It could have been much worse, r39.

by Anonymousreply 4003/09/2019

God that Tanya Roberts is fucking awful.

by Anonymousreply 4103/09/2019

[quote]I wonder what would have happened if the show went another season without Smith. Poor Cheryl Ladd.

I posted this before in another CA thread but I think a sixth season could've been interesting. Jaclyn would've left, Cheryl would've moved up to top billing followed by Tanya and I think a black actress joining the cast (which had been talked about for years) could've brought fresh attention to the show, though at that point such casting would've viewed as too gimmicky and perhaps backfired, so who knows.

by Anonymousreply 4203/09/2019

Vapid is the word... and unnatural.

She seemed uncomfortable in her own skin.

by Anonymousreply 4303/09/2019

R26, I'll never forget that clip that someone posted one time of Tiffany holding a gun. He entitled it..... Do you think Shelly Hack had ever held a gun before?

It was hysterical. I still laugh about it.

by Anonymousreply 4403/09/2019

From her last episode.

by Anonymousreply 4503/09/2019

Aaron Spelling said even before Season 5 started production, that it would probably be the last. He knew at that point Jaclyn was leaving and that the ratings were dropping quickly. They needed another Season to break the 100 episode mark to get a good syndication deal.

by Anonymousreply 4603/09/2019

Did Shelly Hack REALLY do her hair and make-up herself the 2nd half of the season? She look SOO much better, she started on the show with an over teased frizzy mop. Poor thing never had a chance. I honestly can't believe the other girls didn't have any say when they decide to hire her.

by Anonymousreply 4703/09/2019

I think they wanted Hack to flop, I mean releasing such an unflattering photo like this to the press wasn't going to get people enthused about her.

by Anonymousreply 4803/09/2019

Lord, the fucking wrinkles around her eyes and that limp hair..

by Anonymousreply 4903/09/2019

Nolan Miller is in that clip a bit. But in his Television Academy Foundation interview, he talked at length about how when Shelley Hack started, he LOVED her. He loving having such a beautiful woman to dress, and that she made all his creations look good. And for the first couple of weeks she was humble.

He said suddenly, she became very difficult and demanding. He laughed at how quickly it happened, and how different she suddenly became.

I think she does quite a great job in King of Comedy as Fred DeCordova's associate producer. She really captures that personality type- coldly professional. The way she blows off Rupert is perfectly done.

by Anonymousreply 5003/09/2019

Here you go, r44.

by Anonymousreply 5103/09/2019

r51's link also leads to this picture. Now there is an idea for the next angel. And she knows how to carry guns.

by Anonymousreply 5203/10/2019

R49 Plus that veiny hand and she's barefoot. She has big, unattractive feet (with a weird scar on one) and has a bandage around her toes. So many unsightly things in that photo.

by Anonymousreply 5303/10/2019

yes she did do her own hair and makeup later in her season. What that means though is she brought her own person in who knew her look and she had input in how they were doing it. She was a model since she was 14 and made a fortune doing it. She knew how to make herself look good. What she did with a lot of her modeling money was to pay for travel while she was still a teen and then pay for her over the top education. I've forgotten the wheres of her education but it's impressive. The travel that she did as a teen on her own is what impressed me the most. That was probably a big reason to why she didn't fit in. She probably didn't know how to chit chat about Bootsie Gumdrops in the cafeteria. I'm a Shelley Hack troll and love posting in her threads. Her look not fitting in was simply the biggest reason it didn't work out.

by Anonymousreply 5403/10/2019

Now THAT is a porn name.

by Anonymousreply 5503/10/2019

I love me some Shelley Hack!!

by Anonymousreply 5603/10/2019

That's it, R51.

But, the front view is even more hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 5703/10/2019

Hack was born in Greenwich, Connecticut. She graduated from Greenwich Academy, Smith College with a BA in History, and an MBA from NYIT. I guess maybe she could have helped Cheryl balance her checkbook in her dressing room.

by Anonymousreply 5803/10/2019

As much as I like her I'd kill to see the Night Court tapes.

by Anonymousreply 5903/10/2019

Shelley in her next show. With Assorted foxes. Cutter to Houston. At least they got her look.

by Anonymousreply 6003/10/2019

Wait, WTF happened on Night Court?

by Anonymousreply 6103/10/2019

Again, another part written with her in mind from the start. She originated the role of Christine that Markie Post would fill. They made a couple of episodes with her and it was so bad they let her go. I'd love to see the tapes of of Tiff being a comedic actress on a sitcom.

by Anonymousreply 6203/11/2019

Shelley in her third TV series. Again the role written with her in mind from the start. Jack and Mike.

by Anonymousreply 6303/11/2019

She

was

TERRIBLE

by Anonymousreply 6403/11/2019

Again, Tiff in SeaQuest. Sort of an underwater STar Trek with Tiff as the captain. What was it with the producers, writers, and directors that all thought they were going to be the ones pulling the performance out of Shelley?

by Anonymousreply 6503/11/2019

Tiffany Welles has always been kind of an inspiration to me throughout my life.

by Anonymousreply 6603/11/2019

In the clip with Jaclyn and Cheryl obsessing that Tiffany has SEEN Charlie, Jaclyn's overacting and attempt at ad-libbing is laughable. Four seasons in, and still all she can do is pose and look troubled...

by Anonymousreply 6703/11/2019

She had all these NEW parts AFTER being fired from "Charlies Angels?" What the fuck potential did they SEE in her?

by Anonymousreply 6803/11/2019

I actually thought she did fine in “Jack & Mike.”

by Anonymousreply 6903/11/2019

[quote] Again the role written with her in mind from the start. Jack and Mike.

With ME in mind, you mean, since that show was nothing but a Moonlighting wannabe.

by Anonymousreply 7003/11/2019

Never did an “actress” have a more accurately descriptive last name than our Shelley.

by Anonymousreply 7103/11/2019

OMG a Love Boat crossover!

They pulled out all the stops.

A Starsky and Hutch crossover would’ve been better, or all three shows at once !

by Anonymousreply 7203/11/2019

R68 She might have had a good and aggressive agent who really pushed her.

by Anonymousreply 7303/11/2019

Someone has been so kind to upload episodes of Jack and Mike starring our Shelley.

by Anonymousreply 7403/11/2019

I've begun to suspect that the poster who keeps starting Shelley Hack/Tiffany Welles threads and then keeps posting in them can be no one else than Shelley herself...because who the eff else would care?

by Anonymousreply 7503/12/2019

J'adore Tiffany Welles.

by Anonymousreply 7603/12/2019

R75 Shelley/Tiffany has seemed to picked up fans over the years, and although a smallish group, seem to be very vocal online. See the various CA sites/forums and youtube. She was not very popular when the she was airing at the time. People Magazine noted she came in dead last on their annual poll for TV stars at the time.

by Anonymousreply 7703/12/2019

I am watching an episode on MeTV. I had not realized that Shelley was taller than Jaclyn. Robert englund is in this one.

by Anonymousreply 7803/12/2019

You must be watching the "Disco Angels" episode - I think he plays Freddy? Cheryl does a roller disco routine. Tiffany looked awful, that frizzy hair.I think she wore over-alls? Awful

by Anonymousreply 7903/12/2019

R79 - Harrigan’s Angel

“The Angels team up with alcoholic private eye Harrigan to investigate the robbery of an electronics plant. Kris takes a liking to the old man and tries to get him back on track.”

by Anonymousreply 8003/12/2019

I think “Disco Angels” featured Rene Auberjonois.

by Anonymousreply 8103/12/2019

Rene was in Angels on Skates.

by Anonymousreply 8203/12/2019

Who was in Angels on the Toilet?

by Anonymousreply 8303/12/2019

Margo the tranny was.

by Anonymousreply 8403/12/2019

Yes I think Zalman King was in “Disco Angels”

by Anonymousreply 8503/12/2019

also from a doing her own hair episode

by Anonymousreply 8603/12/2019

Is this Margo the tranny?

by Anonymousreply 8703/12/2019

and one where she didn't do her own thing

by Anonymousreply 8803/12/2019

Oh my^

by Anonymousreply 8903/12/2019

This is hysterical. A hyper intelligent, independent, worldly Shelley Hack sitting through an interview in Nebraska on one of those junkets they do. The interviewer is like a drunken, country cousin of Edith Prickley.

by Anonymousreply 9003/12/2019

Season 4 was weak because it was mostly solo Angel episodes, but that wasn’t Shelley’s fault.

One of the all time best episodes was “Angel Hunt” which had all 3 Angels stranded on an island and hunted by a man who has a beef with Charlie (a plot that the first Drew Barrymore film stole from!) And Shelley had an action scene that this gayling re-enacted in the privacy of my room on several occasions!

by Anonymousreply 9103/12/2019
by Anonymousreply 9203/12/2019

The bad guy in that scene was a total stud.

He looked like a 70s porn actor. I bet he had a big ol dick.

by Anonymousreply 9303/12/2019
by Anonymousreply 9403/12/2019

I thought Shelley became a better actress after Charlie's Angels. She was very good in both the first The Stepfather film and one of the best episodes in HBO's Tales From the Crypt.

by Anonymousreply 9503/12/2019

R90, great clip.

Shelley contradicts almost everything the interviewer says.

Throw her a bone, Tiffany. Geez!

(And the interviewer needs to give Shelley some breathing room. Boy, those chairs were close together.)

by Anonymousreply 9603/12/2019

R91, I agree that that was a very good episode but always felt that scene you posted where the guy knocks out Tiffany and she disappears was just another gimmick cooked up by the writers (on orders from the producers) to cut down on Shelley Hack's screen time and focus most of the episode on Cheryl and Jaclyn.

by Anonymousreply 9703/12/2019

Apparently the first time Jaclyn Smith met Shelley Hack on the set of Angels she turned to Cheryl Ladd within earshot of Shelley and said, 'Didn't we just do a TRANSVESTITE episode?'

by Anonymousreply 9803/13/2019

Shelley spoke about that interview at R90 much later and spoke about how after the camera stopped rolling the woman--whose breadth reeked of gin--asked her if she'd ever experimented with a woman and then proceeded to mime scissors on each hand using her index and middle fingers and then grind them against each other.

by Anonymousreply 9903/13/2019

I'm the vajayjay coloring book Kim bought for Kris for Valentine's Day.

by Anonymousreply 10003/13/2019

R97 I wonder if she took acting lessons like Aaron Spelling asked her to do? Boy, that had to be embarrassing for her. She did improve a little later on in the season when they gave her a little more to do. Less stiff in general.

Studying acting with some good acting teachers is never a bad idea. Farrah Fawcett went to NY and studied at HB Studio in the early 80s and managed to turn her career around and be taken seriously as an actress. Of course she had more "name value" going for her that Shelley did to get a big showy roles to prove herself.

by Anonymousreply 10103/13/2019

R95 Funny you should mention The Stepfather! I just watched it for the first time this past weekend. A bit off topic, and I realize the 80s were a different time, but I was FLOORED when they showed the 15 year old daughter taking a shower with full on ass and tits shots!! Completely gratuitous and unnecessary, it lent nothing to the scene. Shelley was good in it though. Terry O'Quinn was positively terrifying.

by Anonymousreply 10203/13/2019

The episode in the old fashioned dance club was so embarrassing for poor Tiffany. One scene they say she is in the bathroom. It has no payoff. There is no scene of her speaking with someone there or picking up on a clue on her way back. They just talk without her. No reason she could not be in the scene.

by Anonymousreply 10303/13/2019

R103, but when Kelly said that Tiffany was in the bathroom didn't she gesture with two fingers and mouth the words, 'Number two'?

by Anonymousreply 10403/13/2019

I don’t excrete waste matter and I don’t care for people who do.

by Anonymousreply 10503/13/2019
by Anonymousreply 10603/13/2019

Shelley Hack was just good.

by Anonymousreply 10703/13/2019

r98, I find that very hard to believe. By all accounts, Jaclyn Smith is a class act.

by Anonymousreply 10803/13/2019

Jaclyn Smith is thrice divorced Trump fan. So she's not all that classy.

by Anonymousreply 10903/13/2019

.... and what's your take on Kate Jackson?

by Anonymousreply 11003/13/2019

She got some of this D

by Anonymousreply 11103/13/2019

Sabrina Duncan was too lesbian for me. Tiffany Welles was feminine.

by Anonymousreply 11203/13/2019

Jaclyn may have been fine but Kelly Garrett was a downright cunt to Tiffany and very likely the reason our Tiff fled to Boston!

by Anonymousreply 11303/13/2019

r133, I did get quite the laugh during that Angel Hunt episode when Tiffany got knocked out by the hunter and Kris wanted to go save her but Kelly was like 'fuck that bitch we need to go NOW'. LOL!!!!

by Anonymousreply 11403/13/2019

lol r114

by Anonymousreply 11503/13/2019

Did they explain why Tiffany had left the Townsend Agency after one year?

by Anonymousreply 11603/13/2019

R114, me, too! Every time I think about that episode, that's the first scene that comes to mind.

by Anonymousreply 11703/13/2019

Charlie told Bos, Kelly and Kris that Tiff was still in Boston and going to stay there a few more months. She was never mentioned again. She disappeared from the Townsend agency like Lucille Bremer left MGM and no one minded.

by Anonymousreply 11803/13/2019

“Which of you Angels just let out a silent one?”

by Anonymousreply 11903/13/2019

Did Farrah ever show up during the Julie Rogers season?

I forgot she and the Tifster were in some of the same episodes.

by Anonymousreply 12003/13/2019

No, IIRC, Farrah's appearances ended during the Shelley Hack season.

by Anonymousreply 12103/13/2019

Nowadays they would make it a season-long story arch when an angel leaves. In episode one, she mysteriously disappears. It turns out she has been investigating a cold case. Her brutally tortured body would be found no sooner than episode six or even ten.

by Anonymousreply 12203/13/2019

Tiffany Welles......WHAT A PIECE OF SHIT!

by Anonymousreply 12303/13/2019

I still watch the CA reruns. On MeTV they're currently showing the Tiffany Wells season. OMG! That episode where Tiffany and Kelly had to go undercover as hookers was hysterical. Shelley was so damn campy, strutting down that sidewalk, swinging that purse, and chewing gum like a cow. The editor for that episode must've been drunk or on coke because there were jump cuts all over the place. One sudden close up in particular showed Shelley with this campy shit eating grin. I was DONE! LOL!!!

by Anonymousreply 12403/13/2019

R124 That's by far my favorite Shelley/Tiffany episode. Then was her hilarious tough talking to the pimp. "Well, I was talkin' to you!"

by Anonymousreply 12503/13/2019

r125, She had quite the sass in that episode. LOL!!!

by Anonymousreply 12603/13/2019

[quote]Who was in Angels on the Toilet?

Veronica Moser

by Anonymousreply 12703/13/2019

Shelley Hack was good. She was just good..

by Anonymousreply 12803/14/2019

R114 They also never even try to find her body. To me the funny part of this episode is that at the end, once he finds out they are all alive, Charlie turns his boat around and leaves them on the island with the big cats. It was more important they didn't see his face then their safety.

by Anonymousreply 12903/14/2019

Shelley was never given a chance. It should have been Tiff who was secretly injected with heroin or who had to infiltrate a women’s prison on her own!

by Anonymousreply 13003/14/2019

They did treat her poorly. Even in the Angel Hunt episode. She's captured and tied up in the cabin. She doesn't even get to escape and capture the last guy. She just lies there until Kris and Kelly come in.

by Anonymousreply 13103/14/2019

this world was never meant for one as beautiful as Tiff

by Anonymousreply 13203/14/2019

Now my curiosity is piqued. Where are those NIGHT COURT eps?

by Anonymousreply 13303/14/2019

In Lee Radziwell's safety deposit box.

by Anonymousreply 13403/14/2019

R133 Probably in a vault somewhere. They've never been shown anywhere. I think she filmed two episodes, tops. Hack said they changed her character's personality between episodes and she didn't like the change at all. Obviously the producers didn't like her take on the new version of role, so she left and they recast.

by Anonymousreply 13503/14/2019

I think the Angels Go Truckin' episode is particularly bad. This was before the producers realized that Tiff was not cutting it with viewers, so she has some things to do in the episode. It's clear they wanted her in the Sabrina Duncan mode (someone who can play campy undercover characters).

by Anonymousreply 13603/14/2019

I just find it funny how they took someone who was one of the most glamorous models for years and made her look like a frazzled frau managing too many carpools.

by Anonymousreply 13703/14/2019

They made her hair looks so shitty.

by Anonymousreply 13803/14/2019

Well Shelley didn't help much when was hunched over at times also. With her being a model, you'd think she'd have better posture.

by Anonymousreply 13903/14/2019

This thread is LOL funny.

by Anonymousreply 14003/14/2019

She also was scary skinny.

by Anonymousreply 14103/14/2019

Daughter Rose.

by Anonymousreply 14203/14/2019

R141- Yes.

by Anonymousreply 14303/14/2019

I just scratched my asshole then smelled it

by Anonymousreply 14403/14/2019

I love Tiffany.

But I think Shelley is a bit of a bitch.

by Anonymousreply 14503/14/2019

She was a hack.

by Anonymousreply 14603/14/2019

R114, it's as if you did a ghetto translation lol.

by Anonymousreply 14703/14/2019

As far as I'm concerned Tiffany Welles was a big improvement over Sabrina Duncan who was too manish for my tastes.

by Anonymousreply 148Last Friday at 2:16 AM

I remember not really caring for her much in the original episodes. Maybe it was just about me being a moody teen. I lover her now in the MeTV reruns. I lover her look and I think she did a good job. I have a soft spot in my heart for most of the actors that come in as replacements, it's just a tough position to be in.

by Anonymousreply 149Last Friday at 4:36 AM

I do love Tiffany but I can admit Shelly Hack can't act and is very stiff, which I find endearing. But didn't they screen test her. They had to have seen it. Watching these episodes again, I think Cheryl Ladd was the best actress of the bunch, given the material. I also think Farrah is better in the episodes she was forced to come back to do then in her season.

by Anonymousreply 150Last Friday at 5:16 AM

r150, I do think Kate Jackson was the best in terms of acting but Cheryl Ladd was very good. One of the reasons I took to Cheryl so fast coming in behind Farrah leaving and all the tea spilt from that was her acting ability. Looking at the reruns, I'm reminded of how natural she was. I do agree that Farrah did seem better in the episodes she was forced to do and as we saw, she became an even better actress after that. I mean The Burning Bed. Wow! Jaclyn Smith has always been my favorite angel. Acting wise, she wasn't consistent but she could pull it out sometimes. I really thought her forced heroin addiction episode was her best work.

by Anonymousreply 151Last Friday at 5:49 AM

Kate was good but overall I think Cheryl really captured the spirit of the show and made it work. Cheryl's at the Chiller Theatre autograph show in NJ in April. Can't wait.

by Anonymousreply 152Last Friday at 6:55 AM

I believe that Dierdre Hall served as Jaclyn's acting coach for quite some time and vice-versa. They would do scenes together from Shakespeare, Ibsen and Chekov and then afterward give each other notes.

by Anonymousreply 153Last Friday at 7:22 AM

Cheryl was the best because she was enjoying what she was doing and the check she was getting out of it. She landed in a pot of jam and she knew it. It came through.

by Anonymousreply 154Last Friday at 4:20 PM

It could have been Marie Osmond as Tiffany!

by Anonymousreply 155Last Friday at 6:01 PM

"Mr. Pipkin?"

by Anonymousreply 156Last Friday at 6:06 PM

she was just so good in her modeling stills. too bad it didn't come out in charlie's angels.

by Anonymousreply 157Last Friday at 6:08 PM

she was also so damn cute when she was a young model.

by Anonymousreply 158Last Friday at 6:12 PM

Fierce!

by Anonymousreply 159Last Friday at 7:20 PM

OMG, that hooker episode had everything.

Scary 70s burned actor who was all over TV back then. Annoying Sissy Spacek clone actresss who had already been on CA in the football episode. None of the sharp detectives realizing who Rose is. Madlyn Rhue Jaclyn and Tiff as streetwalkers.

by Anonymousreply 160Last Friday at 7:25 PM

Nancy Fox - Jaclyn’s bestie and recurring CA guest star, r160.

by Anonymousreply 161Last Friday at 7:29 PM

Tiffany twirling her purse around, but ugh, that ugly top. Jaclyn and hot pink camel toe.

by Anonymousreply 162Last Friday at 8:05 PM

She looks underfed.

by Anonymousreply 163Last Friday at 8:14 PM

Sorry but in my opinion, Shelley gets high marks for that walk at R162. Girlfriend was WORKING IT. Don't see anything wrong with her in that scene.

by Anonymousreply 164Last Saturday at 6:57 AM

As for Tiffany's predecessor, here are 8 things you might not know about Kate Jackson:

by Anonymousreply 165Last Saturday at 6:59 AM

#9 - She is fucking NUTS.

by Anonymousreply 166Last Saturday at 8:03 AM

Have there been any updates on crazy cat lady Kate? She really hasn't been working or in the public eye at all in several years. It's wild when you think of what a big star she was and that she was a veteran of 3 major series (Rookies, Angels, Scarecrow) plus plenty of other high profile work.

by Anonymousreply 167Last Saturday at 8:04 AM

"Mr. Pumpkin?"

by Anonymousreply 168Last Saturday at 8:07 AM

Kate is still studying her script for Kramer vs. Kramer. Kate's big problem is she was one of those who could never enjoy her success. Not even when she was "best friends" with Olivia Newton John.

by Anonymousreply 169Last Saturday at 8:11 AM

In addition to her debut episode of CA, Shelley was an actual guest star on “The Love Boat”. She was actually quite funny, playing a scientist who pretends to be an airhead in order to get men interested in her.

by Anonymousreply 170Last Saturday at 8:18 AM

R167 She was snapped by paparazzi as recently as 2 years ago looking thin and drawn. Tabloids claimed she has/had a pain pill addiction and is a hoarder. She had to sell her nice house and move into smaller place due to money problems.

As much as she worked from the 70s through the 90s, she should be getting a nice pension from SAG. Even if she blew all the money she made of the years, that pension would keep a roof over her head and fed at least.

by Anonymousreply 171Last Saturday at 8:19 AM

If by blew you mean Andrew Stevens stealing it all.....LOL. Lesbian got taken in by some pretty dick.

by Anonymousreply 172Last Saturday at 8:22 AM

And Shelley is the only Angel to ever appear in a film that won the Oscar for Best Picture. "I have no opinions..."

by Anonymousreply 173Last Saturday at 8:23 AM

Many of us at DL still cherish the unauthorized quote from his cool mom, Stella Stevens, when Andrew began his acting career. Sage advice: "You're not very talented so you'd better learn to suck dick."

by Anonymousreply 174Last Saturday at 8:27 AM

I wish there was video of him taking her advice!

BTW, “The Seduction” comes out on Blu Ray in May!!!

by Anonymousreply 175Last Saturday at 8:29 AM

Maybe she saw this before saying it.

by Anonymousreply 176Last Saturday at 8:31 AM

R39, I agree and they cut away just as the guy's arm (the guy carrying the stack) gets in the way; awful editing.

by Anonymousreply 177Last Saturday at 8:35 AM

R39, R177 At least she didn't have to balance a book on her head or run on a janky treadmill like I had to.

by Anonymousreply 178Last Saturday at 8:41 AM

The original and the Tiffany version openings were the least clunky. Once they got into two went to LA, one in SF, I was like why wasn't Kris in LA, too? Having them spread out made the most sense, but the third version! Yikes! "The other to a top school for modeling...and the each reaped the blah blah...."

I do think that shot of Jaclyn Smith turning her head around in the opening is such a classic shot; what a beauty!

My favorite angel was Sabrina. Kate was really the only one who could act.

by Anonymousreply 179Last Saturday at 9:46 AM

I was secretly attending the prestigious police academy in SF, unbeknownst to big sister Jill who would not have approved. The original three girls went to the Steve Guttenberg location, lol!

by Anonymousreply 180Last Saturday at 9:52 AM

"Mr. Pidkin?"

by Anonymousreply 181Last Saturday at 10:59 AM

"I do think that shot of Jaclyn Smith turning her head around in the opening is such a classic shot; what a beauty!"

r179, that shot is ICONIC! I was a fan of CA during it's 5 year run and watch the MeTV reruns on an almost daily basis. That shot never fails to give me life. Also, watching it in the context of the episode is even better. Kelly gives a sharp elbow to the ribs of a deadly masseuse who tried to sneak up on her, does the iconic hair flip in that classic closeup, then says "I hope you liked your massage Inga." Season 1, Episode 6 - The Killing Kind. One of my favorites.

by Anonymousreply 182Last Saturday at 7:18 PM

Oh, it was episode 6, R182? Interesting. I'd always thought it came out of the pilot.

And you're right, it never gets old.

by Anonymousreply 183Last Saturday at 7:24 PM
by Anonymousreply 184Last Saturday at 7:31 PM

Tiff's tits

by Anonymousreply 185Last Saturday at 7:34 PM

CLASSIC!

by Anonymousreply 186Last Saturday at 7:49 PM

Yeah, she was definitely one of the world's most beautiful at that point.

by Anonymousreply 187Last Saturday at 7:55 PM

The other MeTV article says the first season Kate got 10k per episode, while Farrah and Jaclyn got 5k.

by Anonymousreply 188Last Saturday at 8:05 PM

She was flat as a board

by Anonymousreply 189Last Saturday at 8:18 PM

R188 Most TV stars didn't get paid much back then. Especially on a new series. So, not far fetched. It makes sense Kate made more because she was only one who was really known at that time. Farrah was only known as Lee Majors wife and unproven and Jaclyn was a total unknown.

Tanya Roberts supposedly made $12,000 an episode during the last seasons. I'm sure Jaclyn and Cheryl were making considerable more than she was,

by Anonymousreply 190Last Saturday at 8:19 PM

[quote]r3 Puleaze Hack lasted one season and barely had any lines the first 5 or 6 episodes.

Well, Mr. Smarty...she had Ladd and fuckin' little Miss Butter-Wouldn't-Melt-in-Her-Mouth Smith gunning for her on the set...getting her lines and best bits of business cut right out from under her. They were threatened to the [italic]core[/italic] by a REAL thespienne.

Kate Jackson also wanted to go down in the annals as THE actress from the series, so she was sure as ALL hell pulling Spelling's strings from the sidelines.

Probably had some serious dirt on him. [bold]MeToo[bold] (?)

by Anonymousreply 191Last Saturday at 8:19 PM

[quote]r189 She was flat as a board

Well, she was a top model.

Some stars don't need silicone!

by Anonymousreply 192Last Saturday at 8:32 PM

while I didn't buy poor Jaclyn in the 'thugs hook Kelly on cocaine' episode, and I thought Kate was the only one who could pull off playing an undercover character -- 'I want that baby, John - see that I get it' or the naïve fake Janet LeMarr (sp?) in the pilot -- I did think Jaclyn had occasional really solid moments like cracking to the lesbian matron in Angels in Chains 'how long has it been since you've been sprayed?'

I think Spelling said he'd give each of the first four angels a million each if three of them would agree to a reunion movie. I wish that had happened.

by Anonymousreply 193Last Saturday at 8:43 PM

Shelley did have nice legs though.

by Anonymousreply 194Last Saturday at 8:42 PM

R193, was that after Farrah had gone from one of the world's most iconic beauties to crunchy haired dipstick?

by Anonymousreply 195Last Saturday at 8:48 PM

I think it's refreshing Shelley doesn't have a face full of fillers and botox, but if she'd do something about those eye bags, she's look great.

by Anonymousreply 196Last Saturday at 8:51 PM

R193 Kate and Farrah never wanted to do it. Jaclyn was game and I'm sure Cheryl would've too (and she was very popular with most of the fans of the show, it's too bad they discounted her). They didn't even seem to consider Shelley or Tanya at all. I think Tanya would've done it for sure. But they weren't interested in any other combo.

by Anonymousreply 197Last Saturday at 8:58 PM

February photo of Cheryl and Jaclyn. Cheryl looks like she just returned from an undercover mission impersonating the villain’s executive assistant.

by Anonymousreply 198Last Saturday at 10:56 PM

r196, time is cruel to the face.

by Anonymousreply 199Last Sunday at 3:43 AM

R185, those are Kate Jackson's arms

by Anonymousreply 200Last Sunday at 4:37 AM

Shelley had the most versatile of the angels' looks. And was, truth be told, probably the most psychologically sound (?)

by Anonymousreply 201Last Sunday at 8:13 AM

Husband.

by Anonymousreply 202Last Sunday at 8:19 AM

vs Husband

by Anonymousreply 203Last Sunday at 8:23 AM

Damn, that's scary, R196.

by Anonymousreply 204Last Sunday at 8:29 AM

Tanya Roberts really did have the best body of the bunch, as far as that goes.

by Anonymousreply 205Last Sunday at 8:36 AM

OMG R158

That pic is lol horrible.

by Anonymousreply 206Last Sunday at 8:39 AM

Tanya Roberts was a disgusting, odd mix of ghetto and trailer trash.

by Anonymousreply 207Last Sunday at 8:42 AM

Cheryl looks damn good there.

by Anonymousreply 208Last Sunday at 8:43 AM

Tanya also had the worst intro. They had her running on the K Mart treadmill. I don't even remember what her name was on the show. I just thought she was not angel material. She had better tits than Tiff though.

by Anonymousreply 209Last Sunday at 8:46 AM

[quote]r206 OMG [R158] that pic is lol horrible.

Look, if it's horrible clothes and regretable hairstyling you want...

by Anonymousreply 210Last Sunday at 8:48 AM

Kate Jackson would have been the prettiest if she had kept her long hair.

by Anonymousreply 211Last Sunday at 8:52 AM

"Mr. Pimpnik?"

by Anonymousreply 212Last Sunday at 8:55 AM
by Anonymousreply 213Last Sunday at 9:01 AM

R209, JULIE ROGERS!

by Anonymousreply 214Last Sunday at 9:08 AM

All the angels were (obviously) beautiful, but it's also notable that NONE of them ever REALLY set the screen on fire, acting wise.

Compare them to Sharon Stone in [italic]Casino,[/italic] who somehow, even though she was discovered as a de rigueur blonde model bimbo, tore it up as Ginger. It really is a remarkable performance, made up of many varied scenes and moods.

But, you know, a good script and director can help you get there.

by Anonymousreply 215Last Sunday at 9:11 AM
by Anonymousreply 216Last Sunday at 9:12 AM

I’m not gonna compare the CA women to fucking Sharon Stone in Casino!

by Anonymousreply 217Last Sunday at 9:13 AM

[bold]#BecauseYouCAN'T[/bold]

I don't even particularly like her, but Stone is the real deal in that movie, acting wise.

It's like she acts with her (non-existant) soul.

by Anonymousreply 218Last Sunday at 9:15 AM

Okay, Sharon, get out of this Charlie Angels thread.

Go to the zoo or something.

by Anonymousreply 219Last Sunday at 9:16 AM

Go to the Gambino thread Sharon. You're no angel.

by Anonymousreply 220Last Sunday at 9:18 AM

I remember hating that haunted house episode, r213, because of the ending.

At the end of the episode, the team is back at the agency recapping all of the events that occurred at the haunted house. Bosley, typical as ever, offers his skepticism that the house was actually haunted. Suddenly his desk starts rollicking violently to suggest the ghost is not happy at his comments! Does anyone freak out? No, the Angels start laughing at Bosley! Freeze frame to end credits.

Even the ten year old me did a major eye roll at that.

by Anonymousreply 221Last Sunday at 9:25 AM

Tanya’s tits look weird at r209. I think Cheryl probably had the best body.

by Anonymousreply 222Last Sunday at 9:28 AM

Tanya was wonderful on That 70s show.

by Anonymousreply 223Last Sunday at 6:15 PM

Watching the episodes on MeTv, I was wondering about the Tiffany segment of the opening. Does anyone know if that was the original one for her ? It contains scenes from "Angel Hunt" and "Angels on Campus" that were from the middle of the season. I didn't think they shot that many in advance to have those scenes ready for the premiere.

by Anonymousreply 224Last Monday at 4:03 AM

To say nothing of the scene with all the dancing "ghosts" that Tiffany sees, R221. All this highly trained private eye had to do was touch one to tell that they were flesh and blood and the jig would be up. But does this walking rugburn do it? NOPE.

by Anonymousreply 225Last Monday at 7:59 AM

Ladies and gentlemen: I'd like to introduce my asshole....

by Anonymousreply 226Last Monday at 10:37 AM

I could never figure out if the problem was Hack couldn't act or if it was her God-given odd, breathy voice and too big smile and odd facial expressions. But there was never any exciting or memorable moment, involving her, from that entire season.

by Anonymousreply 227Last Monday at 12:49 PM

That’s your opinion r227, not mine.

by Anonymousreply 228Last Monday at 12:51 PM

R224 They initially had one different shot of her in the first half of the first season, then they changed it midway though. That one is the one that was shown in syndication and on the DVD's.

Here's the original opening that aired for the first half of the season. It bad quality since it's from an ancient VHS or BETA tape.

by Anonymousreply 229Last Monday at 1:28 PM

Her hair was styled like shit

by Anonymousreply 230Last Monday at 3:22 PM

I always wanted to give her a hot oil treatment.

by Anonymousreply 231Last Monday at 4:21 PM

My favorite show open evah! The theme song! The Jaclyn Smith hair flip! The Farrah smile! The Kate Jackson laugh! The Cheryl Ladd bikini, which seemed racy for it's time. This young man loved the glamour (not the girls)!

by Anonymousreply 232Last Monday at 5:01 PM

The best part of the show, and it always made me laugh, was Sabrina in the weekly car chase. She would either be chasing some V8 land barge or be chased by some V8 land barge. She always held her own IN HER FUCKING PINTO! Not just a Pinto. AN ORANGE PINTO.

by Anonymousreply 233Last Monday at 5:40 PM
by Anonymousreply 234Last Monday at 5:40 PM

I wish Zora would have beat the crap out of Tiffany instead of poor little Kris.

by Anonymousreply 235Last Monday at 7:22 PM

The Angels looked their worse in Season 4. Cheryl really aged after seasons 2 and 3. She was still an attractive woman but no longer the cute young thing she was when she joined the show. I’m not sure if it was her hairstyle or bad makeup. She look better in Season 5, though. Jaclyn was full on soccer mom in season 4. And Tiffany and that unfortunate hair crimp!

by Anonymousreply 236Last Monday at 8:22 PM

Did JS gain weight in season 4?

by Anonymousreply 237Last Monday at 8:27 PM

Season 2 Kris

by Anonymousreply 238Last Monday at 8:30 PM

Season 4 Kris

by Anonymousreply 239Last Monday at 8:31 PM

Shelley looked good here; Jaclyn and Cheryl not so much.

by Anonymousreply 240Last Monday at 8:34 PM

[quote]r240 Shelley looked good ... Jaclyn and Cheryl not so much.

By then those other two were exhausted from the long hours. Whereas Shelley was fresh meat, and hungry.

She wiped the floor with them.

by Anonymousreply 241Last Monday at 8:54 PM
by Anonymousreply 242Last Monday at 8:59 PM

Tons of promo pics for Season 4, I actually think they had high hopes for Tiffany Welles.

by Anonymousreply 243Last Monday at 9:08 PM

And why not? SHE WAS A GODDESS!

Till those jealous harpies Cheryl and Jackie tied a tin can to her tail and ran her off the show.

by Anonymousreply 244Last Monday at 9:38 PM

Cheryl and Jaclyn didn't have that much power.

She wasn't very well liked by viewers (especially at the time) had pissed people off behind the scenes and the ratings were dropping fast. Honestly she wasn't the only reason for the drop, but she got most of the blame.

I think they underestimated how important Kate was to the show. She brought some seriousness and legitimacy that kept the show balanced. But I think Season 3 was really when the show started it's decline. There were some bad episodes that Season.

by Anonymousreply 245Last Tuesday at 2:34 AM

Kate had the best voice on the show.

by Anonymousreply 246Last Tuesday at 2:58 AM

I didn't like how the producers tried unsuccessfully to force lesbianism down our throats with Sabrina Duncan for a while.

by Anonymousreply 247Last Tuesday at 3:38 AM

R229 Thanks fot that. I guess maybe "Angel Hunt" was shot earlier and held off airing until later in the season.

Speaking of opening credits, does anyone know what episode that first shot of Cheryl running down the hill is from ? I can't remember ever seeing it in an episode.

by Anonymousreply 248Last Tuesday at 3:51 AM

One problem with Tiffany is that she was more of a Kelly than a Sabrina. The show needed a Sabrina.

Today starts poor Tiff's last episode (2 parter) where she has the indignity of being in an episode where a guy falls in love with 2 angels and she's not one of them. And then at the end, Kelly and Kris both quit but it's poor Tiffany who doesn't come back. I remember as a kid knowing she wasn't coming back when the episode aired. I thought they were going to kill her off when that bulldozer was going to drop the bricks on her.

by Anonymousreply 249Last Tuesday at 3:55 AM

r249, you didn't know shit as a kid.

by Anonymousreply 250Last Tuesday at 4:02 AM

Sorry to disappoint you but it was public knowledge she wasn't coming back before the season was over.

by Anonymousreply 251Last Tuesday at 4:07 AM

well i'm not talking about the public. i'm talking about you.

by Anonymousreply 252Last Tuesday at 4:17 AM

Thanks for reminding me that as much fun as this place can be, there are always assholes lurking around

by Anonymousreply 253Last Tuesday at 4:19 AM

R248 They don't always shoot episodes in the order they air. For example, Cheryl Ladd's first episode taped was actually Circus of Terror.

by Anonymousreply 254Last Tuesday at 4:20 AM

really, r254?

by Anonymousreply 255Last Tuesday at 4:21 AM

R255 Yes, Cheryl herself said that was the first one she taped. A bit odd since it was 5th episode that aired that Season.

by Anonymousreply 256Last Tuesday at 4:27 AM

R256 True but "Angel Hunt" was the 11th episode plus one of the better ones, I'm surprised they sat on it for so long.

by Anonymousreply 257Last Tuesday at 5:06 AM

Smith got pregnant almost immediately after ANGELS was over. She was 35 when the series finished, which is very different from 35 now. She maintained a bikini body right up to the end of the series, with those S5 eps shot in Hawaii, but she does tend to be much more covered up in her "everyday" costumes from later seasons: full sleeves, blouses up to the neck. And you have to love Kelly's habit of dispensing random beatdowns in S5.

The last episode aired in June 1981 and Smith had her first child in 1982 at age 36--which was late to be having a first child, back then--and another in 1985 at 40.

One big problem according to Leonard Goldberg is that the show was doing the same thing in S5 as it was doing in S1, it didn't really change, and they simply ran out of logical, creative milieus to put the angels into. The Hawaii location shift only helped for a while (HAWAII FIVE-O had been canceled and they wanted to use that location facility but ended up using it for only 7 eps), but then they were back at the office for the end of the season. Also, the timeslot kept changing in S5.

The hours on the series were really long, and several actors who guested on the show have commented that they would shoot really fast, and on film, which was costly. They'd even shoot rehearsal sometimes just to get it done. Whether that was a case of no time or not caring, who knows?

It is remarkable when you watch the series today how much of the exteriors are on location, and not just outside on the backlot. The interiors are studio sets almost always, but the workweek had to be grueling with the location travel, the occasional learning of special skills, plus all the PR and career maintenance. The angels were everywhere back then.

Also there's a real decline in script quality, even by CA standards, in S4 and a feeling of repetitiveness sets in. So many episodes similar to previous ones. So many friends of the angels engaged or married to bad men.

by Anonymousreply 258Last Tuesday at 5:17 AM

R257 It was one of the better episodes that Season. Strange they didn't air until after the November sweeps. They should've bumped Angels on Skates in favor for Angel Hunt.

R258 They should've stayed in Hawaii permanently for Season 5. It freshened up the show some and the Hawaiian episodes were fun. Most of the episodes after returning to the office were lackluster or total duds.

by Anonymousreply 259Last Tuesday at 5:50 AM

Does anyone have Bea Arthur’s screen test for CA? I thought that she was considered for a replacement for Kate.

by Anonymousreply 260Last Tuesday at 6:15 AM

God'll get you for that R260

by Anonymousreply 261Last Tuesday at 6:19 AM

Semi recent pic of Kate.

by Anonymousreply 262Last Tuesday at 6:40 AM

I've told this story before but I had a friend who worked in the proximity of the CA world back in the day, and the original plan was to replace Kate Jackson, with Sada Thompson of Family. Sada had a bit of celebrity at that time because of the tv show family, so they shot a series of scenes with just her as Angel Lorraine...I forget whether she was supposed to be Sabrina's mother or not. Anyway, in the end the powers that be, nixed the idea, primarily because Thompson didn't like the wardrobe she was stuck with: twin sets, jeans and pumps, nor did she like all the running she had to do (in pumps, no less!). Also, there was a lot of unexpected sexual tension between Angel Lorraine and Bosley which they thought would throw off the dynamic of the show so they took the safer route and hired Shelley Hack.

by Anonymousreply 263Last Tuesday at 6:58 AM

Hack excited absolutely NO ONE..... except the pathetic OP.

She was a complete and utter snooze(in looks and personality).

by Anonymousreply 264Last Tuesday at 7:42 AM

Now, look here Tizzie Lish, R263

by Anonymousreply 265Last Tuesday at 7:41 AM

I'm surprised they let her stay the entire season, they should have hired another Angel, and transitioned Shelly out the fucking door

by Anonymousreply 266Last Tuesday at 7:45 AM

I'm a HUGE Kate Jackson fan. She can act and she would have had a totally different career had she done Kramer.

That said, I liked Shelley Hack. They were afraid to give her a chance and by the time they did it was over.

by Anonymousreply 267Last Tuesday at 7:47 AM

I never could stand to watch any of her episodes, so please tell me that Tiff drowned when that hottie knocked her cold.

by Anonymousreply 268Last Tuesday at 7:48 AM

A piece of cardboard has more warmth than Shelley Hack. I don't know what the fuck the producers were thinking. They nailed it with Ladd and then colossally bungled it with Hack and Roberts.

by Anonymousreply 269Last Tuesday at 7:53 AM

Shelley was a beautiful woman in that WASP sort of way...but a terrible, terrible actress. But it wasn’t as if Jaclyn and Cheryl were Mrs. Patrick Campbell. Especially Jaclyn. How she got hired for all of those TV movies and miniseries is jaw dropping. And Cheryl Ladd as Grace Kelly? 🙄🙄🙄🙄

by Anonymousreply 270Last Tuesday at 7:54 AM

R269 To be honest, it's very hard to replace a popular actor with someone new and it flops more often than succeeding. They got very lucky with Cheryl. She was a great fit for the show and fans accepted her immediately.

R270 Jaclyn was very popular among a diverse group of people. Back in the 80s, she had one of the highest "Q Scores" on television. That's why she kept getting so much TV work. I'd guess Cheryl's was fairly good also. In a People Magazine 1988 Charlie's Angels retrospective, they quoted an anonymous Hollywood executive that said Cheryl would be his first pick out of all the others that he would've hired for a project.

by Anonymousreply 271Last Tuesday at 8:14 AM

Correct, R270; I don't get it when people slam Shelley's acting and yet Jaclyn and Cheryl had long careers, still working now, I think.

by Anonymousreply 272Last Tuesday at 8:16 AM

Bitchy and funny review of Shelley's first significant role in "If Ever I See You Again."

by Anonymousreply 273Last Tuesday at 8:19 AM

Too funny r273...Shelley was as emotional as a bottle cap...lol.

by Anonymousreply 274Last Tuesday at 8:29 AM

R259 If they stayed in Hawaii, we never would have gotten this

by Anonymousreply 275Last Tuesday at 9:43 AM

[quote]They nailed it with Ladd and then colossally bungled it with Hack and Roberts.

I think it just shows how difficult it was to replace Kate Jackson. She may not have been the lead, technically, but she was the most believable as a detective and she pretty much always played the alpha of the trio. As someone else pointed out, Hack was too much like Jaclyn Smith’s character and it wouldn’t have been logical for her to come in and assume that leader role anyway. Why the writers didn’t recognize that and attempt to move Ladd or Smith in that direction probably reflects how little they thought about the characters. There’s a quote from one of the writers in the Charlie’s Angels Casebook where he had to ask his wife the name of Smith’s character when he was working on a script. And that happened in either the 4th or 5th season. To them the women were interchangeable.

by Anonymousreply 276Last Tuesday at 9:48 AM

[quote] Speaking of opening credits, does anyone know what episode that first shot of Cheryl running down the hill is from ? I can't remember ever seeing it in an episode.

It was the Sammi Davis Jr episode. She was pretending to be a passing jogger but was actually doing security detail at Sammi’s estate as he’d been recently kidnapped. They hired a lookalike to make the kidnappers believe they had the wrong guy.

by Anonymousreply 277Last Tuesday at 9:58 AM

r277 Thank you so much. I've missed that episode since they've been repeating them.

by Anonymousreply 278Last Tuesday at 10:01 AM

Maybe they didn’t like one another...but these two looked good together!

by Anonymousreply 279Last Tuesday at 12:19 PM

This is a real question, please don't flame me but ... just curious, here's a long thread about a trashy tv show from the 80s -- is this a lesbian thing? A gay male thing? I mean, 280 posts about a replacement actress on a crappy show? I don't get it, but I'd like to understand it.

by Anonymousreply 280Last Tuesday at 12:26 PM

Don't flame me but...is it your first day on Datalounge, r280? Otherwise forgotten TV actresses is what we live for!

by Anonymousreply 281Last Tuesday at 1:13 PM

[quote]r260 Does anyone have Bea Arthur’s screen test for CA? I thought that she was considered for a replacement for Kate.

That would have been the most amazing thing EVAH!

omg

by Anonymousreply 282Last Tuesday at 1:25 PM

Someone should create a project for Shelley and Karen Cellini.

by Anonymousreply 283Last Tuesday at 1:42 PM

Martin Kove was so hot on the Sammie Davis Jr episode!

It's said that for most of season 3, Cheryl and Kate barely had scenes together - sad since they were the two best actresses on the show.

David Doyle always said he thought Cheryl was the best actress.

Cheryl's eyes turned into slits very shortly after Angels ended. I don't know if it was a bad facelift or what, but she never looked the same again.

by Anonymousreply 284Last Tuesday at 2:45 PM

Cheryl wasn't very nice to Ritchie Cuningham

by Anonymousreply 285Last Tuesday at 2:48 PM

I loved Tiff in glasses

by Anonymousreply 286Last Tuesday at 2:49 PM

Tiff was smart and attractive

by Anonymousreply 287Last Tuesday at 3:05 PM

Tiff should have stayed on and run the agency ... she was THAT good!

by Anonymousreply 288Last Tuesday at 3:07 PM

unretouched candid:

by Anonymousreply 289Last Tuesday at 3:08 PM

Oh please. I love Shelley but that photos been touched more than Wade Robson

by Anonymousreply 290Last Tuesday at 3:10 PM

PROVE IT!

by Anonymousreply 291Last Tuesday at 3:13 PM

I love the idea of shelley just letting herself grow old naturally. It must be a relief when you're famous and you just say enough. Take a look.

by Anonymousreply 292Last Tuesday at 3:22 PM

I’m growing old kicking and screaming all the way.

by Anonymousreply 293Last Tuesday at 3:28 PM

R280

You had to be a kid/young adult in the mid 70s.

The show was an absolute phenomenon.

Keep in mind, there was no internet, no cell phones, no movies to rent, no video games.

When my nieces and nephews were young I got a kick out of telling them....

Look, when we were kids, we had exactly once chance a year to watch Wizard of Oz, or Rudolph, or the Grinch who Stole Christmas.

If you missed it, you missed it.

Better luck next year.

by Anonymousreply 294Last Tuesday at 4:37 PM

r235, Zora kicked Kris' ass! I crack up every time I watch that scene. I think that was the worst ass whupping any Angel had got and all Zora did was popped her 3 good times and threw her across the whole length of the room. LOL!!!

by Anonymousreply 295Last Tuesday at 5:54 PM

Tiff would have intellectually reasoned with Zora.

by Anonymousreply 296Last Tuesday at 6:08 PM

“And you have to love Kelly's habit of dispensing random beatdowns in S5.”

r258, I lived for those beat downs when I see the S5 reruns. There was the one where Kelly whipped the Asian guy’s ass in his own shop. He blocked all his punches and hauled off and bopped the crap out of him. If that wasn’t enough, she walked up on him like she dared him to take another shot. Dumb ass did and she karate flipped him into the bookshelves. LOL!!!

Then there was that moment when the crook was trying to escape by running around the pool. Kelly met him on the other side and punched him in the stomach like a street thug from The Wire. I love me some Kelly Garrett.

Both episodes are from the ones set in Hawaii. Those Hawaii episodes were pretty good. I loved those Kelly kick ass scenes because it was almost like a throwback to the first season where she was mainly known as the cool collected ass kicking one in the group.

by Anonymousreply 297Last Tuesday at 6:24 PM

The very end shot.... just flat out beautiful.

by Anonymousreply 298Last Tuesday at 6:33 PM

r260, here's Bea Arthur's screen test:

by Anonymousreply 299Last Tuesday at 7:00 PM

“I wonder how long it took for Tiffany to drown.”

by Anonymousreply 300Last Tuesday at 7:02 PM

Anyone have a picture of Tiffany in that beautiful champagne colored silk halter necked sheath evening gown? I remember being mesmerized at how beautiful she looked in that episode. I believe she was dancing with Bosley.

by Anonymousreply 301Last Tuesday at 7:09 PM

R298- Was that from season 1? Who was the woman who assaulted Kelly?

by Anonymousreply 302Last Tuesday at 7:11 PM

Here you go.

by Anonymousreply 303Last Tuesday at 7:13 PM

R298 I think you mean who was that lesbian who attacked Kelly.

by Anonymousreply 304Last Tuesday at 7:23 PM

Yes. Season 1... Night of the Strangler.

by Anonymousreply 305Last Tuesday at 7:43 PM

Yes. Season 1... Night of the Strangler.

by Anonymousreply 306Last Tuesday at 7:43 PM

JS looked amazing in season 1.

by Anonymousreply 307Last Tuesday at 7:59 PM

Even after getting shot in the head!

by Anonymousreply 308Last Tuesday at 8:03 PM

Tom Selleck was also in love with Kelly(Season 1).

by Anonymousreply 309Last Tuesday at 8:05 PM

R303, thanks. You could really see the former model in that episode. Only she could pull that dress off.

by Anonymousreply 310Last Tuesday at 8:23 PM

R308 She didn't even bleed after being shot in the head. And somehow miraculously doesn't even have a hint of a scar afterwards.

The writers were so lazy that Kelly got shot in the head AGAIN in the series finale. She didn't bleed that time either, but grabbed the sides of her head like she had a killer migraine and screamed.

by Anonymousreply 311Last Tuesday at 8:26 PM

Tiff and Boz contemplate the unfavorable hairstyles of the Munroe sisters.

by Anonymousreply 312Last Tuesday at 8:40 PM

Cheryl said Farrah wasn't particularly friendly to her during her returns. She didn't want to be there at all. There was even some tension between Farrah with both Kate and Jaclyn at first.

by Anonymousreply 313Last Tuesday at 8:49 PM

Really? I never heard anything other than Farrah was cordial.

My favorite Charlie's Angels episode is Little Angels of the Night. S2, ep 21.

In an apartment building where many of the tenants are prostitutes, someone is killing them, so the owner calls Charlie. Kris and Kelly move in and they have their eye on the creepy guy who works at the nearby restaurant who delivers the food there.

Freddie is the creepy pizza delivery guy and the whores at the apartment building scream FREDDIE YOU CREEP!!!

by Anonymousreply 314Last Tuesday at 10:33 PM

[quote]r235 I wish Zora would have beat the crap out of Tiffany instead of poor little Kris.

I once read an article by a doctor about unrealistic violence in movies. One thing he pointed out was (aside from people not dying immediately after being shot) that if you knock someone unconscious, you may well have given them brain damage.

But people in dramas are always getting hit on the head, then coming to with a slight headache.

by Anonymousreply 315Last Tuesday at 10:40 PM

Kelly was shot in the head...twice? That explains so much...

by Anonymousreply 316Yesterday at 2:52 AM

Don't forget Beamish was fingerbanging her when she was little.

by Anonymousreply 317Yesterday at 3:18 AM

You should really STOP telling that story, R263.

by Anonymousreply 318Yesterday at 9:28 AM

Yeah, and I never liked the mom on Family. Something about her was off.

by Anonymousreply 319Yesterday at 9:49 AM

And she was injected with heroin multiple times, r316 and r317!

by Anonymousreply 320Yesterday at 12:17 PM

I think today is last of Tiffany on MeTV.

by Anonymousreply 321a day ago

Julie got off to a good start, but then they made character very inconsistent. They should've had the character kept the tough edge she had at first. Tanya Roberts was willing to be physical and did most of own stunts on the show (like Kate Jackson).

by Anonymousreply 322a day ago

I found Julie to be an odd choice - she was a sexpot with more T&A to get male viewers, but she came off as dumb. The reason Cheryl Ladd was so successful is that men AND women liked her and she seemed smart (actually a lot smarter than Jill) enough to solve mysteries.

Smart is never a word that I would use to describe Julie.

by Anonymousreply 323a day ago

Cheap whore with early onset of old lady voice is how I would describe Julie. I hated everything about her.

by Anonymousreply 324a day ago

Julie Rogers was my fave

by Anonymousreply 32521 hours ago

R314 - Both Cheryl and Jaclyn looked great in that episode.

by Anonymousreply 32619 hours ago

Valley of the Dolls

by Anonymousreply 32719 hours ago

Season 4 needed more fun moments like this.

by Anonymousreply 32819 hours ago

R314, I loved that episode, too. I remember thinking that the actor who played Freddie was actually kinda cute.

R321, yes, today was the last of Tiffany. Checking the online guide, oddly, they are not starting with Julie's introductory episode tomorrow. They're jumping to episode three when Kris was kidnapped by that psycho and his crazy kids.

by Anonymousreply 32918 hours ago

It would be better with Shelley Hack, Rose!

by Anonymousreply 33018 hours ago

[quote]r325 Julie Rogers was my fave

She made those other dried-up bitches look like the crones they were.

by Anonymousreply 33117 hours ago

She didn't even look good in her prime, R331.

by Anonymousreply 33217 hours ago

STFU - she was gorgeous, with an incredible body.

by Anonymousreply 33317 hours ago

The hell she was.

She came off as a cheap, stupid skank.

by Anonymousreply 33416 hours ago

Julie kind of looks like a tranny there...

and her voice was terrible.

by Anonymousreply 33516 hours ago

Tanya was a pretty big sex symbol for a while. So obviously a lot of people found her attractive. She was in Playboy, and in high profile stuff that she got for her looks, like being in the James Bond movie. Even in the 90s she did the softcore movies that played on Cable all the time. Even on That 70s Show, she was Donna's hot mom.

by Anonymousreply 33616 hours ago

[quote]r336 She was in Playboy, and in high profile stuff that she got for her looks,

Notice Kate, Cheryl and Jackie were never featured in [italic]Playboy.[/italic].

Simply not good looking enough!

by Anonymousreply 33711 hours ago

[quote]r335 Julie kind of looks like a tranny there...

All the best people do - -

by Anonymousreply 33811 hours ago

At least Tiffany got to solve the case in the last episode all by herself. Of course, they couldn't bother putting her in the last shot.

That episode really missed a chance to have a Dynasty like catfight in the mansion pool between Kelly and Kris. I also love how they both never stop to realize what a sleaze the Patrick Duffy character was.

by Anonymousreply 33910 hours ago

Did Madison (Demi Moore) replace Kelly after she got shot in the face again?

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