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Introducing Tiffany Welles!!

I like her already!

by Anonymousreply 60104/05/2019

Lord, she was vapid..

by Anonymousreply 101/28/2019

Try east coast sophistication, bitch!, r1!

by Anonymousreply 201/28/2019

Puleaze She lasted one season and barely had any lines the first 5 or 6 episodes.

by Anonymousreply 301/28/2019

The season 4 intro with Miss Shelley Hack! Yay!

by Anonymousreply 401/30/2019

She was pretty.

by Anonymousreply 501/30/2019

Tiffany Welles could kick ass too!

by Anonymousreply 601/30/2019

Couldn't you just have bumped the Tiffany thread from just from a few weeks ago?

by Anonymousreply 701/30/2019

But since there's this thread, Tiffany was by far at her most entertaining in this episode as purse twirling street hooker who tough talks the abusive pimp. Too funny.

Poor Jaclyn has a massive camel toe in those tight pants. That couldn't have been comfortable.

by Anonymousreply 801/30/2019

I think DL talks about Shelley Hack more than any other cast member from CA. We are obsessed.

by Anonymousreply 901/30/2019

I know I am. Long live Tiffany Welles!

by Anonymousreply 1001/30/2019

I noticed her as a pre-gay boy. I think she was acting like a "gay man", or maybe she is really lesbian. Who knows.

by Anonymousreply 1101/30/2019

I always think how great it would have been if they'd gone with Barbara Bach. Or I wonder what would have happened if the show went another season without Smith. Poor Cheryl Ladd.. Tiffany never made any appearances again like Farrah, did she?

by Anonymousreply 1202/05/2019

J'adore Tifanny.

by Anonymousreply 1302/05/2019

Tiffany has the French streetwalker look down pat.

by Anonymousreply 1402/05/2019

Today Tiff is driving an 18 wheeler.

by Anonymousreply 1502/15/2019

Kim Basinger was runner-up to Cheryl to replace Farrah. They gave her a consolation prize the following season with a guest starring stint.

by Anonymousreply 1602/15/2019

Kim appeared on the 1st season with Farrah.

by Anonymousreply 1702/15/2019

DIdn't Cheryl and Jaclyn have any say in the matter? I mean, they just are suddenly told that their co-star has been fired and they didn't have ANY input?

by Anonymousreply 1802/17/2019

R18 TV actors rarely have any say in anything. Only if they're producers as well. It's mostly up to the network.

by Anonymousreply 1902/17/2019

She was the prettiest angel so long as she got to wear her Northeast clothes and hair. That she didn't get to do on Charlie's Angels. They just put her in the same shit style the other girls had and it looked horrible on her. She was her prettiest in the casual preppy look.

by Anonymousreply 2002/17/2019

They just didn't dress the gals like this on Charlie's Angels.

by Anonymousreply 2102/17/2019

and a glamour shot with all three of them. she's the one that clearly stands out in the photo.

by Anonymousreply 2202/17/2019

R22 Cheryl looks awful in that pic - Shelly was beautiful

by Anonymousreply 2302/17/2019
by Anonymousreply 2402/18/2019

Tiff!

by Anonymousreply 2502/18/2019

She was lovely to look at, but the walking and talking side of acting is what did her in.

In OP's clip she can't even sit down on the couch without looking like she really had to think about it hard.

by Anonymousreply 2602/18/2019

I was just going to post what R26 did. She's more meant for stills.

by Anonymousreply 2702/18/2019

R26 eats shit!

by Anonymousreply 2802/18/2019

"Kidnapping for prostitution...white slavery."

by Anonymousreply 2902/18/2019

The last few episodes she did she locked herself in her dressing room and did her own hair and makeup.

by Anonymousreply 3002/18/2019

Shelley trashed in Charlie's Angels The Truth Behind the Rumors TV special. Her part starts 14:00 in.

by Anonymousreply 3102/18/2019

Don’t believe everything you hear. Fools.

by Anonymousreply 3202/18/2019

Did they not invite Shelly back when she had TWO more episodes to film before the season was over? That had to be rough..

by Anonymousreply 3303/08/2019

Eat shit!

by Anonymousreply 3403/08/2019

We call it doo doo.

by Anonymousreply 3503/08/2019

Her hair was awful on CA - limp, lifeless. As if she was anorexic.

by Anonymousreply 3603/08/2019

Exactly R36. That's why midway through she started doing her hair and makeup by herself. THAT'S what really pissed them off.

by Anonymousreply 3703/08/2019

Shelley was stiff.

by Anonymousreply 3803/08/2019

They recycled Farrah’s intro for Shelley with the just finished typing, oh here’s another stack bit.

That should’ve been her first clue.

by Anonymousreply 3903/08/2019

It could have been much worse, r39.

by Anonymousreply 4003/09/2019

God that Tanya Roberts is fucking awful.

by Anonymousreply 4103/09/2019

[quote]I wonder what would have happened if the show went another season without Smith. Poor Cheryl Ladd.

I posted this before in another CA thread but I think a sixth season could've been interesting. Jaclyn would've left, Cheryl would've moved up to top billing followed by Tanya and I think a black actress joining the cast (which had been talked about for years) could've brought fresh attention to the show, though at that point such casting would've viewed as too gimmicky and perhaps backfired, so who knows.

by Anonymousreply 4203/09/2019

Vapid is the word... and unnatural.

She seemed uncomfortable in her own skin.

by Anonymousreply 4303/09/2019

R26, I'll never forget that clip that someone posted one time of Tiffany holding a gun. He entitled it..... Do you think Shelly Hack had ever held a gun before?

It was hysterical. I still laugh about it.

by Anonymousreply 4403/09/2019

From her last episode.

by Anonymousreply 4503/09/2019

Aaron Spelling said even before Season 5 started production, that it would probably be the last. He knew at that point Jaclyn was leaving and that the ratings were dropping quickly. They needed another Season to break the 100 episode mark to get a good syndication deal.

by Anonymousreply 4603/09/2019

Did Shelly Hack REALLY do her hair and make-up herself the 2nd half of the season? She look SOO much better, she started on the show with an over teased frizzy mop. Poor thing never had a chance. I honestly can't believe the other girls didn't have any say when they decide to hire her.

by Anonymousreply 4703/09/2019

I think they wanted Hack to flop, I mean releasing such an unflattering photo like this to the press wasn't going to get people enthused about her.

by Anonymousreply 4803/09/2019

Lord, the fucking wrinkles around her eyes and that limp hair..

by Anonymousreply 4903/09/2019

Nolan Miller is in that clip a bit. But in his Television Academy Foundation interview, he talked at length about how when Shelley Hack started, he LOVED her. He loving having such a beautiful woman to dress, and that she made all his creations look good. And for the first couple of weeks she was humble.

He said suddenly, she became very difficult and demanding. He laughed at how quickly it happened, and how different she suddenly became.

I think she does quite a great job in King of Comedy as Fred DeCordova's associate producer. She really captures that personality type- coldly professional. The way she blows off Rupert is perfectly done.

by Anonymousreply 5003/09/2019

Here you go, r44.

by Anonymousreply 5103/09/2019

r51's link also leads to this picture. Now there is an idea for the next angel. And she knows how to carry guns.

by Anonymousreply 5203/10/2019

R49 Plus that veiny hand and she's barefoot. She has big, unattractive feet (with a weird scar on one) and has a bandage around her toes. So many unsightly things in that photo.

by Anonymousreply 5303/10/2019

yes she did do her own hair and makeup later in her season. What that means though is she brought her own person in who knew her look and she had input in how they were doing it. She was a model since she was 14 and made a fortune doing it. She knew how to make herself look good. What she did with a lot of her modeling money was to pay for travel while she was still a teen and then pay for her over the top education. I've forgotten the wheres of her education but it's impressive. The travel that she did as a teen on her own is what impressed me the most. That was probably a big reason to why she didn't fit in. She probably didn't know how to chit chat about Bootsie Gumdrops in the cafeteria. I'm a Shelley Hack troll and love posting in her threads. Her look not fitting in was simply the biggest reason it didn't work out.

by Anonymousreply 5403/10/2019

Now THAT is a porn name.

by Anonymousreply 5503/10/2019

I love me some Shelley Hack!!

by Anonymousreply 5603/10/2019

That's it, R51.

But, the front view is even more hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 5703/10/2019

Hack was born in Greenwich, Connecticut. She graduated from Greenwich Academy, Smith College with a BA in History, and an MBA from NYIT. I guess maybe she could have helped Cheryl balance her checkbook in her dressing room.

by Anonymousreply 5803/10/2019

As much as I like her I'd kill to see the Night Court tapes.

by Anonymousreply 5903/10/2019

Shelley in her next show. With Assorted foxes. Cutter to Houston. At least they got her look.

by Anonymousreply 6003/10/2019

Wait, WTF happened on Night Court?

by Anonymousreply 6103/10/2019

Again, another part written with her in mind from the start. She originated the role of Christine that Markie Post would fill. They made a couple of episodes with her and it was so bad they let her go. I'd love to see the tapes of of Tiff being a comedic actress on a sitcom.

by Anonymousreply 6203/11/2019

Shelley in her third TV series. Again the role written with her in mind from the start. Jack and Mike.

by Anonymousreply 6303/11/2019

She

was

TERRIBLE

by Anonymousreply 6403/11/2019

Again, Tiff in SeaQuest. Sort of an underwater STar Trek with Tiff as the captain. What was it with the producers, writers, and directors that all thought they were going to be the ones pulling the performance out of Shelley?

by Anonymousreply 6503/11/2019

Tiffany Welles has always been kind of an inspiration to me throughout my life.

by Anonymousreply 6603/11/2019

In the clip with Jaclyn and Cheryl obsessing that Tiffany has SEEN Charlie, Jaclyn's overacting and attempt at ad-libbing is laughable. Four seasons in, and still all she can do is pose and look troubled...

by Anonymousreply 6703/11/2019

She had all these NEW parts AFTER being fired from "Charlies Angels?" What the fuck potential did they SEE in her?

by Anonymousreply 6803/11/2019

I actually thought she did fine in “Jack & Mike.”

by Anonymousreply 6903/11/2019

[quote] Again the role written with her in mind from the start. Jack and Mike.

With ME in mind, you mean, since that show was nothing but a Moonlighting wannabe.

by Anonymousreply 7003/11/2019

Never did an “actress” have a more accurately descriptive last name than our Shelley.

by Anonymousreply 7103/11/2019

OMG a Love Boat crossover!

They pulled out all the stops.

A Starsky and Hutch crossover would’ve been better, or all three shows at once !

by Anonymousreply 7203/11/2019

R68 She might have had a good and aggressive agent who really pushed her.

by Anonymousreply 7303/11/2019

Someone has been so kind to upload episodes of Jack and Mike starring our Shelley.

by Anonymousreply 7403/11/2019

I've begun to suspect that the poster who keeps starting Shelley Hack/Tiffany Welles threads and then keeps posting in them can be no one else than Shelley herself...because who the eff else would care?

by Anonymousreply 7503/12/2019

J'adore Tiffany Welles.

by Anonymousreply 7603/12/2019

R75 Shelley/Tiffany has seemed to picked up fans over the years, and although a smallish group, seem to be very vocal online. See the various CA sites/forums and youtube. She was not very popular when the she was airing at the time. People Magazine noted she came in dead last on their annual poll for TV stars at the time.

by Anonymousreply 7703/12/2019

I am watching an episode on MeTV. I had not realized that Shelley was taller than Jaclyn. Robert englund is in this one.

by Anonymousreply 7803/12/2019

You must be watching the "Disco Angels" episode - I think he plays Freddy? Cheryl does a roller disco routine. Tiffany looked awful, that frizzy hair.I think she wore over-alls? Awful

by Anonymousreply 7903/12/2019

R79 - Harrigan’s Angel

“The Angels team up with alcoholic private eye Harrigan to investigate the robbery of an electronics plant. Kris takes a liking to the old man and tries to get him back on track.”

by Anonymousreply 8003/12/2019

I think “Disco Angels” featured Rene Auberjonois.

by Anonymousreply 8103/12/2019

Rene was in Angels on Skates.

by Anonymousreply 8203/12/2019

Who was in Angels on the Toilet?

by Anonymousreply 8303/12/2019

Margo the tranny was.

by Anonymousreply 8403/12/2019

Yes I think Zalman King was in “Disco Angels”

by Anonymousreply 8503/12/2019

also from a doing her own hair episode

by Anonymousreply 8603/12/2019

Is this Margo the tranny?

by Anonymousreply 8703/12/2019

and one where she didn't do her own thing

by Anonymousreply 8803/12/2019

Oh my^

by Anonymousreply 8903/12/2019

This is hysterical. A hyper intelligent, independent, worldly Shelley Hack sitting through an interview in Nebraska on one of those junkets they do. The interviewer is like a drunken, country cousin of Edith Prickley.

by Anonymousreply 9003/12/2019

Season 4 was weak because it was mostly solo Angel episodes, but that wasn’t Shelley’s fault.

One of the all time best episodes was “Angel Hunt” which had all 3 Angels stranded on an island and hunted by a man who has a beef with Charlie (a plot that the first Drew Barrymore film stole from!) And Shelley had an action scene that this gayling re-enacted in the privacy of my room on several occasions!

by Anonymousreply 9103/12/2019
by Anonymousreply 9203/12/2019

The bad guy in that scene was a total stud.

He looked like a 70s porn actor. I bet he had a big ol dick.

by Anonymousreply 9303/12/2019
by Anonymousreply 9403/12/2019

I thought Shelley became a better actress after Charlie's Angels. She was very good in both the first The Stepfather film and one of the best episodes in HBO's Tales From the Crypt.

by Anonymousreply 9503/12/2019

R90, great clip.

Shelley contradicts almost everything the interviewer says.

Throw her a bone, Tiffany. Geez!

(And the interviewer needs to give Shelley some breathing room. Boy, those chairs were close together.)

by Anonymousreply 9603/12/2019

R91, I agree that that was a very good episode but always felt that scene you posted where the guy knocks out Tiffany and she disappears was just another gimmick cooked up by the writers (on orders from the producers) to cut down on Shelley Hack's screen time and focus most of the episode on Cheryl and Jaclyn.

by Anonymousreply 9703/12/2019

Apparently the first time Jaclyn Smith met Shelley Hack on the set of Angels she turned to Cheryl Ladd within earshot of Shelley and said, 'Didn't we just do a TRANSVESTITE episode?'

by Anonymousreply 9803/13/2019

Shelley spoke about that interview at R90 much later and spoke about how after the camera stopped rolling the woman--whose breadth reeked of gin--asked her if she'd ever experimented with a woman and then proceeded to mime scissors on each hand using her index and middle fingers and then grind them against each other.

by Anonymousreply 9903/13/2019

I'm the vajayjay coloring book Kim bought for Kris for Valentine's Day.

by Anonymousreply 10003/13/2019

R97 I wonder if she took acting lessons like Aaron Spelling asked her to do? Boy, that had to be embarrassing for her. She did improve a little later on in the season when they gave her a little more to do. Less stiff in general.

Studying acting with some good acting teachers is never a bad idea. Farrah Fawcett went to NY and studied at HB Studio in the early 80s and managed to turn her career around and be taken seriously as an actress. Of course she had more "name value" going for her that Shelley did to get a big showy roles to prove herself.

by Anonymousreply 10103/13/2019

R95 Funny you should mention The Stepfather! I just watched it for the first time this past weekend. A bit off topic, and I realize the 80s were a different time, but I was FLOORED when they showed the 15 year old daughter taking a shower with full on ass and tits shots!! Completely gratuitous and unnecessary, it lent nothing to the scene. Shelley was good in it though. Terry O'Quinn was positively terrifying.

by Anonymousreply 10203/13/2019

The episode in the old fashioned dance club was so embarrassing for poor Tiffany. One scene they say she is in the bathroom. It has no payoff. There is no scene of her speaking with someone there or picking up on a clue on her way back. They just talk without her. No reason she could not be in the scene.

by Anonymousreply 10303/13/2019

R103, but when Kelly said that Tiffany was in the bathroom didn't she gesture with two fingers and mouth the words, 'Number two'?

by Anonymousreply 10403/13/2019

I don’t excrete waste matter and I don’t care for people who do.

by Anonymousreply 10503/13/2019
by Anonymousreply 10603/13/2019

Shelley Hack was just good.

by Anonymousreply 10703/13/2019

r98, I find that very hard to believe. By all accounts, Jaclyn Smith is a class act.

by Anonymousreply 10803/13/2019

Jaclyn Smith is thrice divorced Trump fan. So she's not all that classy.

by Anonymousreply 10903/13/2019

.... and what's your take on Kate Jackson?

by Anonymousreply 11003/13/2019

She got some of this D

by Anonymousreply 11103/13/2019

Sabrina Duncan was too lesbian for me. Tiffany Welles was feminine.

by Anonymousreply 11203/13/2019

Jaclyn may have been fine but Kelly Garrett was a downright cunt to Tiffany and very likely the reason our Tiff fled to Boston!

by Anonymousreply 11303/13/2019

r133, I did get quite the laugh during that Angel Hunt episode when Tiffany got knocked out by the hunter and Kris wanted to go save her but Kelly was like 'fuck that bitch we need to go NOW'. LOL!!!!

by Anonymousreply 11403/13/2019

lol r114

by Anonymousreply 11503/13/2019

Did they explain why Tiffany had left the Townsend Agency after one year?

by Anonymousreply 11603/13/2019

R114, me, too! Every time I think about that episode, that's the first scene that comes to mind.

by Anonymousreply 11703/13/2019

Charlie told Bos, Kelly and Kris that Tiff was still in Boston and going to stay there a few more months. She was never mentioned again. She disappeared from the Townsend agency like Lucille Bremer left MGM and no one minded.

by Anonymousreply 11803/13/2019

“Which of you Angels just let out a silent one?”

by Anonymousreply 11903/13/2019

Did Farrah ever show up during the Julie Rogers season?

I forgot she and the Tifster were in some of the same episodes.

by Anonymousreply 12003/13/2019

No, IIRC, Farrah's appearances ended during the Shelley Hack season.

by Anonymousreply 12103/13/2019

Nowadays they would make it a season-long story arch when an angel leaves. In episode one, she mysteriously disappears. It turns out she has been investigating a cold case. Her brutally tortured body would be found no sooner than episode six or even ten.

by Anonymousreply 12203/13/2019

Tiffany Welles......WHAT A PIECE OF SHIT!

by Anonymousreply 12303/13/2019

I still watch the CA reruns. On MeTV they're currently showing the Tiffany Wells season. OMG! That episode where Tiffany and Kelly had to go undercover as hookers was hysterical. Shelley was so damn campy, strutting down that sidewalk, swinging that purse, and chewing gum like a cow. The editor for that episode must've been drunk or on coke because there were jump cuts all over the place. One sudden close up in particular showed Shelley with this campy shit eating grin. I was DONE! LOL!!!

by Anonymousreply 12403/13/2019

R124 That's by far my favorite Shelley/Tiffany episode. Then was her hilarious tough talking to the pimp. "Well, I was talkin' to you!"

by Anonymousreply 12503/13/2019

r125, She had quite the sass in that episode. LOL!!!

by Anonymousreply 12603/13/2019

[quote]Who was in Angels on the Toilet?

Veronica Moser

by Anonymousreply 12703/13/2019

Shelley Hack was good. She was just good..

by Anonymousreply 12803/14/2019

R114 They also never even try to find her body. To me the funny part of this episode is that at the end, once he finds out they are all alive, Charlie turns his boat around and leaves them on the island with the big cats. It was more important they didn't see his face then their safety.

by Anonymousreply 12903/14/2019

Shelley was never given a chance. It should have been Tiff who was secretly injected with heroin or who had to infiltrate a women’s prison on her own!

by Anonymousreply 13003/14/2019

They did treat her poorly. Even in the Angel Hunt episode. She's captured and tied up in the cabin. She doesn't even get to escape and capture the last guy. She just lies there until Kris and Kelly come in.

by Anonymousreply 13103/14/2019

this world was never meant for one as beautiful as Tiff

by Anonymousreply 13203/14/2019

Now my curiosity is piqued. Where are those NIGHT COURT eps?

by Anonymousreply 13303/14/2019

In Lee Radziwell's safety deposit box.

by Anonymousreply 13403/14/2019

R133 Probably in a vault somewhere. They've never been shown anywhere. I think she filmed two episodes, tops. Hack said they changed her character's personality between episodes and she didn't like the change at all. Obviously the producers didn't like her take on the new version of role, so she left and they recast.

by Anonymousreply 13503/14/2019

I think the Angels Go Truckin' episode is particularly bad. This was before the producers realized that Tiff was not cutting it with viewers, so she has some things to do in the episode. It's clear they wanted her in the Sabrina Duncan mode (someone who can play campy undercover characters).

by Anonymousreply 13603/14/2019

I just find it funny how they took someone who was one of the most glamorous models for years and made her look like a frazzled frau managing too many carpools.

by Anonymousreply 13703/14/2019

They made her hair looks so shitty.

by Anonymousreply 13803/14/2019

Well Shelley didn't help much when was hunched over at times also. With her being a model, you'd think she'd have better posture.

by Anonymousreply 13903/14/2019

This thread is LOL funny.

by Anonymousreply 14003/14/2019

She also was scary skinny.

by Anonymousreply 14103/14/2019

Daughter Rose.

by Anonymousreply 14203/14/2019

R141- Yes.

by Anonymousreply 14303/14/2019

I just scratched my asshole then smelled it

by Anonymousreply 14403/14/2019

I love Tiffany.

But I think Shelley is a bit of a bitch.

by Anonymousreply 14503/14/2019

She was a hack.

by Anonymousreply 14603/14/2019

R114, it's as if you did a ghetto translation lol.

by Anonymousreply 14703/14/2019

As far as I'm concerned Tiffany Welles was a big improvement over Sabrina Duncan who was too manish for my tastes.

by Anonymousreply 14803/15/2019

I remember not really caring for her much in the original episodes. Maybe it was just about me being a moody teen. I lover her now in the MeTV reruns. I lover her look and I think she did a good job. I have a soft spot in my heart for most of the actors that come in as replacements, it's just a tough position to be in.

by Anonymousreply 14903/15/2019

I do love Tiffany but I can admit Shelly Hack can't act and is very stiff, which I find endearing. But didn't they screen test her. They had to have seen it. Watching these episodes again, I think Cheryl Ladd was the best actress of the bunch, given the material. I also think Farrah is better in the episodes she was forced to come back to do then in her season.

by Anonymousreply 15003/15/2019

r150, I do think Kate Jackson was the best in terms of acting but Cheryl Ladd was very good. One of the reasons I took to Cheryl so fast coming in behind Farrah leaving and all the tea spilt from that was her acting ability. Looking at the reruns, I'm reminded of how natural she was. I do agree that Farrah did seem better in the episodes she was forced to do and as we saw, she became an even better actress after that. I mean The Burning Bed. Wow! Jaclyn Smith has always been my favorite angel. Acting wise, she wasn't consistent but she could pull it out sometimes. I really thought her forced heroin addiction episode was her best work.

by Anonymousreply 15103/15/2019

Kate was good but overall I think Cheryl really captured the spirit of the show and made it work. Cheryl's at the Chiller Theatre autograph show in NJ in April. Can't wait.

by Anonymousreply 15203/15/2019

I believe that Dierdre Hall served as Jaclyn's acting coach for quite some time and vice-versa. They would do scenes together from Shakespeare, Ibsen and Chekov and then afterward give each other notes.

by Anonymousreply 15303/15/2019

Cheryl was the best because she was enjoying what she was doing and the check she was getting out of it. She landed in a pot of jam and she knew it. It came through.

by Anonymousreply 15403/15/2019

It could have been Marie Osmond as Tiffany!

by Anonymousreply 15503/15/2019

"Mr. Pipkin?"

by Anonymousreply 15603/15/2019

she was just so good in her modeling stills. too bad it didn't come out in charlie's angels.

by Anonymousreply 15703/15/2019

she was also so damn cute when she was a young model.

by Anonymousreply 15803/15/2019

Fierce!

by Anonymousreply 15903/15/2019

OMG, that hooker episode had everything.

Scary 70s burned actor who was all over TV back then. Annoying Sissy Spacek clone actresss who had already been on CA in the football episode. None of the sharp detectives realizing who Rose is. Madlyn Rhue Jaclyn and Tiff as streetwalkers.

by Anonymousreply 16003/15/2019

Nancy Fox - Jaclyn’s bestie and recurring CA guest star, r160.

by Anonymousreply 16103/15/2019

Tiffany twirling her purse around, but ugh, that ugly top. Jaclyn and hot pink camel toe.

by Anonymousreply 16203/15/2019

She looks underfed.

by Anonymousreply 16303/15/2019

Sorry but in my opinion, Shelley gets high marks for that walk at R162. Girlfriend was WORKING IT. Don't see anything wrong with her in that scene.

by Anonymousreply 16403/16/2019

As for Tiffany's predecessor, here are 8 things you might not know about Kate Jackson:

by Anonymousreply 16503/16/2019

#9 - She is fucking NUTS.

by Anonymousreply 16603/16/2019

Have there been any updates on crazy cat lady Kate? She really hasn't been working or in the public eye at all in several years. It's wild when you think of what a big star she was and that she was a veteran of 3 major series (Rookies, Angels, Scarecrow) plus plenty of other high profile work.

by Anonymousreply 16703/16/2019

"Mr. Pumpkin?"

by Anonymousreply 16803/16/2019

Kate is still studying her script for Kramer vs. Kramer. Kate's big problem is she was one of those who could never enjoy her success. Not even when she was "best friends" with Olivia Newton John.

by Anonymousreply 16903/16/2019

In addition to her debut episode of CA, Shelley was an actual guest star on “The Love Boat”. She was actually quite funny, playing a scientist who pretends to be an airhead in order to get men interested in her.

by Anonymousreply 17003/16/2019

R167 She was snapped by paparazzi as recently as 2 years ago looking thin and drawn. Tabloids claimed she has/had a pain pill addiction and is a hoarder. She had to sell her nice house and move into smaller place due to money problems.

As much as she worked from the 70s through the 90s, she should be getting a nice pension from SAG. Even if she blew all the money she made of the years, that pension would keep a roof over her head and fed at least.

by Anonymousreply 17103/16/2019

If by blew you mean Andrew Stevens stealing it all.....LOL. Lesbian got taken in by some pretty dick.

by Anonymousreply 17203/16/2019

And Shelley is the only Angel to ever appear in a film that won the Oscar for Best Picture. "I have no opinions..."

by Anonymousreply 17303/16/2019

Many of us at DL still cherish the unauthorized quote from his cool mom, Stella Stevens, when Andrew began his acting career. Sage advice: "You're not very talented so you'd better learn to suck dick."

by Anonymousreply 17403/16/2019

I wish there was video of him taking her advice!

BTW, “The Seduction” comes out on Blu Ray in May!!!

by Anonymousreply 17503/16/2019

Maybe she saw this before saying it.

by Anonymousreply 17603/16/2019

R39, I agree and they cut away just as the guy's arm (the guy carrying the stack) gets in the way; awful editing.

by Anonymousreply 17703/16/2019

R39, R177 At least she didn't have to balance a book on her head or run on a janky treadmill like I had to.

by Anonymousreply 17803/16/2019

The original and the Tiffany version openings were the least clunky. Once they got into two went to LA, one in SF, I was like why wasn't Kris in LA, too? Having them spread out made the most sense, but the third version! Yikes! "The other to a top school for modeling...and the each reaped the blah blah...."

I do think that shot of Jaclyn Smith turning her head around in the opening is such a classic shot; what a beauty!

My favorite angel was Sabrina. Kate was really the only one who could act.

by Anonymousreply 17903/16/2019

I was secretly attending the prestigious police academy in SF, unbeknownst to big sister Jill who would not have approved. The original three girls went to the Steve Guttenberg location, lol!

by Anonymousreply 18003/16/2019

"Mr. Pidkin?"

by Anonymousreply 18103/16/2019

"I do think that shot of Jaclyn Smith turning her head around in the opening is such a classic shot; what a beauty!"

r179, that shot is ICONIC! I was a fan of CA during it's 5 year run and watch the MeTV reruns on an almost daily basis. That shot never fails to give me life. Also, watching it in the context of the episode is even better. Kelly gives a sharp elbow to the ribs of a deadly masseuse who tried to sneak up on her, does the iconic hair flip in that classic closeup, then says "I hope you liked your massage Inga." Season 1, Episode 6 - The Killing Kind. One of my favorites.

by Anonymousreply 18203/16/2019

Oh, it was episode 6, R182? Interesting. I'd always thought it came out of the pilot.

And you're right, it never gets old.

by Anonymousreply 18303/16/2019
by Anonymousreply 18403/16/2019

Tiff's tits

by Anonymousreply 18503/16/2019

CLASSIC!

by Anonymousreply 18603/16/2019

Yeah, she was definitely one of the world's most beautiful at that point.

by Anonymousreply 18703/16/2019

The other MeTV article says the first season Kate got 10k per episode, while Farrah and Jaclyn got 5k.

by Anonymousreply 18803/16/2019

She was flat as a board

by Anonymousreply 18903/16/2019

R188 Most TV stars didn't get paid much back then. Especially on a new series. So, not far fetched. It makes sense Kate made more because she was only one who was really known at that time. Farrah was only known as Lee Majors wife and unproven and Jaclyn was a total unknown.

Tanya Roberts supposedly made $12,000 an episode during the last seasons. I'm sure Jaclyn and Cheryl were making considerable more than she was,

by Anonymousreply 19003/16/2019

[quote]r3 Puleaze Hack lasted one season and barely had any lines the first 5 or 6 episodes.

Well, Mr. Smarty...she had Ladd and fuckin' little Miss Butter-Wouldn't-Melt-in-Her-Mouth Smith gunning for her on the set...getting her lines and best bits of business cut right out from under her. They were threatened to the [italic]core[/italic] by a REAL thespienne.

Kate Jackson also wanted to go down in the annals as THE actress from the series, so she was sure as ALL hell pulling Spelling's strings from the sidelines.

Probably had some serious dirt on him. [bold]MeToo[bold] (?)

by Anonymousreply 19103/16/2019

[quote]r189 She was flat as a board

Well, she was a top model.

Some stars don't need silicone!

by Anonymousreply 19203/16/2019

while I didn't buy poor Jaclyn in the 'thugs hook Kelly on cocaine' episode, and I thought Kate was the only one who could pull off playing an undercover character -- 'I want that baby, John - see that I get it' or the naïve fake Janet LeMarr (sp?) in the pilot -- I did think Jaclyn had occasional really solid moments like cracking to the lesbian matron in Angels in Chains 'how long has it been since you've been sprayed?'

I think Spelling said he'd give each of the first four angels a million each if three of them would agree to a reunion movie. I wish that had happened.

by Anonymousreply 19303/16/2019

Shelley did have nice legs though.

by Anonymousreply 19403/16/2019

R193, was that after Farrah had gone from one of the world's most iconic beauties to crunchy haired dipstick?

by Anonymousreply 19503/16/2019

I think it's refreshing Shelley doesn't have a face full of fillers and botox, but if she'd do something about those eye bags, she's look great.

by Anonymousreply 19603/16/2019

R193 Kate and Farrah never wanted to do it. Jaclyn was game and I'm sure Cheryl would've too (and she was very popular with most of the fans of the show, it's too bad they discounted her). They didn't even seem to consider Shelley or Tanya at all. I think Tanya would've done it for sure. But they weren't interested in any other combo.

by Anonymousreply 19703/16/2019

February photo of Cheryl and Jaclyn. Cheryl looks like she just returned from an undercover mission impersonating the villain’s executive assistant.

by Anonymousreply 19803/16/2019

r196, time is cruel to the face.

by Anonymousreply 19903/17/2019

R185, those are Kate Jackson's arms

by Anonymousreply 20003/17/2019

Shelley had the most versatile of the angels' looks. And was, truth be told, probably the most psychologically sound (?)

by Anonymousreply 20103/17/2019

Husband.

by Anonymousreply 20203/17/2019

vs Husband

by Anonymousreply 20303/17/2019

Damn, that's scary, R196.

by Anonymousreply 20403/17/2019

Tanya Roberts really did have the best body of the bunch, as far as that goes.

by Anonymousreply 20503/17/2019

OMG R158

That pic is lol horrible.

by Anonymousreply 20603/17/2019

Tanya Roberts was a disgusting, odd mix of ghetto and trailer trash.

by Anonymousreply 20703/17/2019

Cheryl looks damn good there.

by Anonymousreply 20803/17/2019

Tanya also had the worst intro. They had her running on the K Mart treadmill. I don't even remember what her name was on the show. I just thought she was not angel material. She had better tits than Tiff though.

by Anonymousreply 20903/17/2019

[quote]r206 OMG [R158] that pic is lol horrible.

Look, if it's horrible clothes and regretable hairstyling you want...

by Anonymousreply 21003/17/2019

Kate Jackson would have been the prettiest if she had kept her long hair.

by Anonymousreply 21103/17/2019

"Mr. Pimpnik?"

by Anonymousreply 21203/17/2019
by Anonymousreply 21303/17/2019

R209, JULIE ROGERS!

by Anonymousreply 21403/17/2019

All the angels were (obviously) beautiful, but it's also notable that NONE of them ever REALLY set the screen on fire, acting wise.

Compare them to Sharon Stone in [italic]Casino,[/italic] who somehow, even though she was discovered as a de rigueur blonde model bimbo, tore it up as Ginger. It really is a remarkable performance, made up of many varied scenes and moods.

But, you know, a good script and director can help you get there.

by Anonymousreply 21503/17/2019
by Anonymousreply 21603/17/2019

I’m not gonna compare the CA women to fucking Sharon Stone in Casino!

by Anonymousreply 21703/17/2019

[bold]#BecauseYouCAN'T[/bold]

I don't even particularly like her, but Stone is the real deal in that movie, acting wise.

It's like she acts with her (non-existant) soul.

by Anonymousreply 21803/17/2019

Okay, Sharon, get out of this Charlie Angels thread.

Go to the zoo or something.

by Anonymousreply 21903/17/2019

Go to the Gambino thread Sharon. You're no angel.

by Anonymousreply 22003/17/2019

I remember hating that haunted house episode, r213, because of the ending.

At the end of the episode, the team is back at the agency recapping all of the events that occurred at the haunted house. Bosley, typical as ever, offers his skepticism that the house was actually haunted. Suddenly his desk starts rollicking violently to suggest the ghost is not happy at his comments! Does anyone freak out? No, the Angels start laughing at Bosley! Freeze frame to end credits.

Even the ten year old me did a major eye roll at that.

by Anonymousreply 22103/17/2019

Tanya’s tits look weird at r209. I think Cheryl probably had the best body.

by Anonymousreply 22203/17/2019

Tanya was wonderful on That 70s show.

by Anonymousreply 22303/17/2019

Watching the episodes on MeTv, I was wondering about the Tiffany segment of the opening. Does anyone know if that was the original one for her ? It contains scenes from "Angel Hunt" and "Angels on Campus" that were from the middle of the season. I didn't think they shot that many in advance to have those scenes ready for the premiere.

by Anonymousreply 22403/18/2019

To say nothing of the scene with all the dancing "ghosts" that Tiffany sees, R221. All this highly trained private eye had to do was touch one to tell that they were flesh and blood and the jig would be up. But does this walking rugburn do it? NOPE.

by Anonymousreply 22503/18/2019

Ladies and gentlemen: I'd like to introduce my asshole....

by Anonymousreply 22603/18/2019

I could never figure out if the problem was Hack couldn't act or if it was her God-given odd, breathy voice and too big smile and odd facial expressions. But there was never any exciting or memorable moment, involving her, from that entire season.

by Anonymousreply 22703/18/2019

That’s your opinion r227, not mine.

by Anonymousreply 22803/18/2019

R224 They initially had one different shot of her in the first half of the first season, then they changed it midway though. That one is the one that was shown in syndication and on the DVD's.

Here's the original opening that aired for the first half of the season. It bad quality since it's from an ancient VHS or BETA tape.

by Anonymousreply 22903/18/2019

Her hair was styled like shit

by Anonymousreply 23003/18/2019

I always wanted to give her a hot oil treatment.

by Anonymousreply 23103/18/2019

My favorite show open evah! The theme song! The Jaclyn Smith hair flip! The Farrah smile! The Kate Jackson laugh! The Cheryl Ladd bikini, which seemed racy for it's time. This young man loved the glamour (not the girls)!

by Anonymousreply 23203/18/2019

The best part of the show, and it always made me laugh, was Sabrina in the weekly car chase. She would either be chasing some V8 land barge or be chased by some V8 land barge. She always held her own IN HER FUCKING PINTO! Not just a Pinto. AN ORANGE PINTO.

by Anonymousreply 23303/18/2019
by Anonymousreply 23403/18/2019

I wish Zora would have beat the crap out of Tiffany instead of poor little Kris.

by Anonymousreply 23503/18/2019

The Angels looked their worse in Season 4. Cheryl really aged after seasons 2 and 3. She was still an attractive woman but no longer the cute young thing she was when she joined the show. I’m not sure if it was her hairstyle or bad makeup. She look better in Season 5, though. Jaclyn was full on soccer mom in season 4. And Tiffany and that unfortunate hair crimp!

by Anonymousreply 23603/18/2019

Did JS gain weight in season 4?

by Anonymousreply 23703/18/2019

Season 2 Kris

by Anonymousreply 23803/18/2019

Season 4 Kris

by Anonymousreply 23903/18/2019

Shelley looked good here; Jaclyn and Cheryl not so much.

by Anonymousreply 24003/18/2019

[quote]r240 Shelley looked good ... Jaclyn and Cheryl not so much.

By then those other two were exhausted from the long hours. Whereas Shelley was fresh meat, and hungry.

She wiped the floor with them.

by Anonymousreply 24103/18/2019
by Anonymousreply 24203/18/2019

Tons of promo pics for Season 4, I actually think they had high hopes for Tiffany Welles.

by Anonymousreply 24303/18/2019

And why not? SHE WAS A GODDESS!

Till those jealous harpies Cheryl and Jackie tied a tin can to her tail and ran her off the show.

by Anonymousreply 24403/18/2019

Cheryl and Jaclyn didn't have that much power.

She wasn't very well liked by viewers (especially at the time) had pissed people off behind the scenes and the ratings were dropping fast. Honestly she wasn't the only reason for the drop, but she got most of the blame.

I think they underestimated how important Kate was to the show. She brought some seriousness and legitimacy that kept the show balanced. But I think Season 3 was really when the show started it's decline. There were some bad episodes that Season.

by Anonymousreply 24503/19/2019

Kate had the best voice on the show.

by Anonymousreply 24603/19/2019

I didn't like how the producers tried unsuccessfully to force lesbianism down our throats with Sabrina Duncan for a while.

by Anonymousreply 24703/19/2019

R229 Thanks fot that. I guess maybe "Angel Hunt" was shot earlier and held off airing until later in the season.

Speaking of opening credits, does anyone know what episode that first shot of Cheryl running down the hill is from ? I can't remember ever seeing it in an episode.

by Anonymousreply 24803/19/2019

One problem with Tiffany is that she was more of a Kelly than a Sabrina. The show needed a Sabrina.

Today starts poor Tiff's last episode (2 parter) where she has the indignity of being in an episode where a guy falls in love with 2 angels and she's not one of them. And then at the end, Kelly and Kris both quit but it's poor Tiffany who doesn't come back. I remember as a kid knowing she wasn't coming back when the episode aired. I thought they were going to kill her off when that bulldozer was going to drop the bricks on her.

by Anonymousreply 24903/19/2019

r249, you didn't know shit as a kid.

by Anonymousreply 25003/19/2019

Sorry to disappoint you but it was public knowledge she wasn't coming back before the season was over.

by Anonymousreply 25103/19/2019

well i'm not talking about the public. i'm talking about you.

by Anonymousreply 25203/19/2019

Thanks for reminding me that as much fun as this place can be, there are always assholes lurking around

by Anonymousreply 25303/19/2019

R248 They don't always shoot episodes in the order they air. For example, Cheryl Ladd's first episode taped was actually Circus of Terror.

by Anonymousreply 25403/19/2019

really, r254?

by Anonymousreply 25503/19/2019

R255 Yes, Cheryl herself said that was the first one she taped. A bit odd since it was 5th episode that aired that Season.

by Anonymousreply 25603/19/2019

R256 True but "Angel Hunt" was the 11th episode plus one of the better ones, I'm surprised they sat on it for so long.

by Anonymousreply 25703/19/2019

Smith got pregnant almost immediately after ANGELS was over. She was 35 when the series finished, which is very different from 35 now. She maintained a bikini body right up to the end of the series, with those S5 eps shot in Hawaii, but she does tend to be much more covered up in her "everyday" costumes from later seasons: full sleeves, blouses up to the neck. And you have to love Kelly's habit of dispensing random beatdowns in S5.

The last episode aired in June 1981 and Smith had her first child in 1982 at age 36--which was late to be having a first child, back then--and another in 1985 at 40.

One big problem according to Leonard Goldberg is that the show was doing the same thing in S5 as it was doing in S1, it didn't really change, and they simply ran out of logical, creative milieus to put the angels into. The Hawaii location shift only helped for a while (HAWAII FIVE-O had been canceled and they wanted to use that location facility but ended up using it for only 7 eps), but then they were back at the office for the end of the season. Also, the timeslot kept changing in S5.

The hours on the series were really long, and several actors who guested on the show have commented that they would shoot really fast, and on film, which was costly. They'd even shoot rehearsal sometimes just to get it done. Whether that was a case of no time or not caring, who knows?

It is remarkable when you watch the series today how much of the exteriors are on location, and not just outside on the backlot. The interiors are studio sets almost always, but the workweek had to be grueling with the location travel, the occasional learning of special skills, plus all the PR and career maintenance. The angels were everywhere back then.

Also there's a real decline in script quality, even by CA standards, in S4 and a feeling of repetitiveness sets in. So many episodes similar to previous ones. So many friends of the angels engaged or married to bad men.

by Anonymousreply 25803/19/2019

R257 It was one of the better episodes that Season. Strange they didn't air until after the November sweeps. They should've bumped Angels on Skates in favor for Angel Hunt.

R258 They should've stayed in Hawaii permanently for Season 5. It freshened up the show some and the Hawaiian episodes were fun. Most of the episodes after returning to the office were lackluster or total duds.

by Anonymousreply 25903/19/2019

Does anyone have Bea Arthur’s screen test for CA? I thought that she was considered for a replacement for Kate.

by Anonymousreply 26003/19/2019

God'll get you for that R260

by Anonymousreply 26103/19/2019

Semi recent pic of Kate.

by Anonymousreply 26203/19/2019

I've told this story before but I had a friend who worked in the proximity of the CA world back in the day, and the original plan was to replace Kate Jackson, with Sada Thompson of Family. Sada had a bit of celebrity at that time because of the tv show family, so they shot a series of scenes with just her as Angel Lorraine...I forget whether she was supposed to be Sabrina's mother or not. Anyway, in the end the powers that be, nixed the idea, primarily because Thompson didn't like the wardrobe she was stuck with: twin sets, jeans and pumps, nor did she like all the running she had to do (in pumps, no less!). Also, there was a lot of unexpected sexual tension between Angel Lorraine and Bosley which they thought would throw off the dynamic of the show so they took the safer route and hired Shelley Hack.

by Anonymousreply 26303/19/2019

Hack excited absolutely NO ONE..... except the pathetic OP.

She was a complete and utter snooze(in looks and personality).

by Anonymousreply 26403/19/2019

Now, look here Tizzie Lish, R263

by Anonymousreply 26503/19/2019

I'm surprised they let her stay the entire season, they should have hired another Angel, and transitioned Shelly out the fucking door

by Anonymousreply 26603/19/2019

I'm a HUGE Kate Jackson fan. She can act and she would have had a totally different career had she done Kramer.

That said, I liked Shelley Hack. They were afraid to give her a chance and by the time they did it was over.

by Anonymousreply 26703/19/2019

I never could stand to watch any of her episodes, so please tell me that Tiff drowned when that hottie knocked her cold.

by Anonymousreply 26803/19/2019

A piece of cardboard has more warmth than Shelley Hack. I don't know what the fuck the producers were thinking. They nailed it with Ladd and then colossally bungled it with Hack and Roberts.

by Anonymousreply 26903/19/2019

Shelley was a beautiful woman in that WASP sort of way...but a terrible, terrible actress. But it wasn’t as if Jaclyn and Cheryl were Mrs. Patrick Campbell. Especially Jaclyn. How she got hired for all of those TV movies and miniseries is jaw dropping. And Cheryl Ladd as Grace Kelly? 🙄🙄🙄🙄

by Anonymousreply 27003/19/2019

R269 To be honest, it's very hard to replace a popular actor with someone new and it flops more often than succeeding. They got very lucky with Cheryl. She was a great fit for the show and fans accepted her immediately.

R270 Jaclyn was very popular among a diverse group of people. Back in the 80s, she had one of the highest "Q Scores" on television. That's why she kept getting so much TV work. I'd guess Cheryl's was fairly good also. In a People Magazine 1988 Charlie's Angels retrospective, they quoted an anonymous Hollywood executive that said Cheryl would be his first pick out of all the others that he would've hired for a project.

by Anonymousreply 27103/19/2019

Correct, R270; I don't get it when people slam Shelley's acting and yet Jaclyn and Cheryl had long careers, still working now, I think.

by Anonymousreply 27203/19/2019

Bitchy and funny review of Shelley's first significant role in "If Ever I See You Again."

by Anonymousreply 27303/19/2019

Too funny r273...Shelley was as emotional as a bottle cap...lol.

by Anonymousreply 27403/19/2019

R259 If they stayed in Hawaii, we never would have gotten this

by Anonymousreply 27503/19/2019

[quote]They nailed it with Ladd and then colossally bungled it with Hack and Roberts.

I think it just shows how difficult it was to replace Kate Jackson. She may not have been the lead, technically, but she was the most believable as a detective and she pretty much always played the alpha of the trio. As someone else pointed out, Hack was too much like Jaclyn Smith’s character and it wouldn’t have been logical for her to come in and assume that leader role anyway. Why the writers didn’t recognize that and attempt to move Ladd or Smith in that direction probably reflects how little they thought about the characters. There’s a quote from one of the writers in the Charlie’s Angels Casebook where he had to ask his wife the name of Smith’s character when he was working on a script. And that happened in either the 4th or 5th season. To them the women were interchangeable.

by Anonymousreply 27603/19/2019

[quote] Speaking of opening credits, does anyone know what episode that first shot of Cheryl running down the hill is from ? I can't remember ever seeing it in an episode.

It was the Sammi Davis Jr episode. She was pretending to be a passing jogger but was actually doing security detail at Sammi’s estate as he’d been recently kidnapped. They hired a lookalike to make the kidnappers believe they had the wrong guy.

by Anonymousreply 27703/19/2019

r277 Thank you so much. I've missed that episode since they've been repeating them.

by Anonymousreply 27803/19/2019

Maybe they didn’t like one another...but these two looked good together!

by Anonymousreply 27903/19/2019

This is a real question, please don't flame me but ... just curious, here's a long thread about a trashy tv show from the 80s -- is this a lesbian thing? A gay male thing? I mean, 280 posts about a replacement actress on a crappy show? I don't get it, but I'd like to understand it.

by Anonymousreply 28003/19/2019

Don't flame me but...is it your first day on Datalounge, r280? Otherwise forgotten TV actresses is what we live for!

by Anonymousreply 28103/19/2019

[quote]r260 Does anyone have Bea Arthur’s screen test for CA? I thought that she was considered for a replacement for Kate.

That would have been the most amazing thing EVAH!

omg

by Anonymousreply 28203/19/2019

Someone should create a project for Shelley and Karen Cellini.

by Anonymousreply 28303/19/2019

Martin Kove was so hot on the Sammie Davis Jr episode!

It's said that for most of season 3, Cheryl and Kate barely had scenes together - sad since they were the two best actresses on the show.

David Doyle always said he thought Cheryl was the best actress.

Cheryl's eyes turned into slits very shortly after Angels ended. I don't know if it was a bad facelift or what, but she never looked the same again.

by Anonymousreply 28403/19/2019

Cheryl wasn't very nice to Ritchie Cuningham

by Anonymousreply 28503/19/2019

I loved Tiff in glasses

by Anonymousreply 28603/19/2019

Tiff was smart and attractive

by Anonymousreply 28703/19/2019

Tiff should have stayed on and run the agency ... she was THAT good!

by Anonymousreply 28803/19/2019

unretouched candid:

by Anonymousreply 28903/19/2019

Oh please. I love Shelley but that photos been touched more than Wade Robson

by Anonymousreply 29003/19/2019

PROVE IT!

by Anonymousreply 29103/19/2019

I love the idea of shelley just letting herself grow old naturally. It must be a relief when you're famous and you just say enough. Take a look.

by Anonymousreply 29203/19/2019

I’m growing old kicking and screaming all the way.

by Anonymousreply 29303/19/2019

R280

You had to be a kid/young adult in the mid 70s.

The show was an absolute phenomenon.

Keep in mind, there was no internet, no cell phones, no movies to rent, no video games.

When my nieces and nephews were young I got a kick out of telling them....

Look, when we were kids, we had exactly once chance a year to watch Wizard of Oz, or Rudolph, or the Grinch who Stole Christmas.

If you missed it, you missed it.

Better luck next year.

by Anonymousreply 29403/19/2019

r235, Zora kicked Kris' ass! I crack up every time I watch that scene. I think that was the worst ass whupping any Angel had got and all Zora did was popped her 3 good times and threw her across the whole length of the room. LOL!!!

by Anonymousreply 29503/19/2019

Tiff would have intellectually reasoned with Zora.

by Anonymousreply 29603/19/2019

“And you have to love Kelly's habit of dispensing random beatdowns in S5.”

r258, I lived for those beat downs when I see the S5 reruns. There was the one where Kelly whipped the Asian guy’s ass in his own shop. He blocked all his punches and hauled off and bopped the crap out of him. If that wasn’t enough, she walked up on him like she dared him to take another shot. Dumb ass did and she karate flipped him into the bookshelves. LOL!!!

Then there was that moment when the crook was trying to escape by running around the pool. Kelly met him on the other side and punched him in the stomach like a street thug from The Wire. I love me some Kelly Garrett.

Both episodes are from the ones set in Hawaii. Those Hawaii episodes were pretty good. I loved those Kelly kick ass scenes because it was almost like a throwback to the first season where she was mainly known as the cool collected ass kicking one in the group.

by Anonymousreply 29703/19/2019

The very end shot.... just flat out beautiful.

by Anonymousreply 29803/19/2019

r260, here's Bea Arthur's screen test:

by Anonymousreply 29903/19/2019

“I wonder how long it took for Tiffany to drown.”

by Anonymousreply 30003/19/2019

Anyone have a picture of Tiffany in that beautiful champagne colored silk halter necked sheath evening gown? I remember being mesmerized at how beautiful she looked in that episode. I believe she was dancing with Bosley.

by Anonymousreply 30103/19/2019

R298- Was that from season 1? Who was the woman who assaulted Kelly?

by Anonymousreply 30203/19/2019

Here you go.

by Anonymousreply 30303/19/2019

R298 I think you mean who was that lesbian who attacked Kelly.

by Anonymousreply 30403/19/2019

Yes. Season 1... Night of the Strangler.

by Anonymousreply 30503/19/2019

Yes. Season 1... Night of the Strangler.

by Anonymousreply 30603/19/2019

JS looked amazing in season 1.

by Anonymousreply 30703/19/2019

Even after getting shot in the head!

by Anonymousreply 30803/19/2019

Tom Selleck was also in love with Kelly(Season 1).

by Anonymousreply 30903/19/2019

R303, thanks. You could really see the former model in that episode. Only she could pull that dress off.

by Anonymousreply 31003/19/2019

R308 She didn't even bleed after being shot in the head. And somehow miraculously doesn't even have a hint of a scar afterwards.

The writers were so lazy that Kelly got shot in the head AGAIN in the series finale. She didn't bleed that time either, but grabbed the sides of her head like she had a killer migraine and screamed.

by Anonymousreply 31103/19/2019

Tiff and Boz contemplate the unfavorable hairstyles of the Munroe sisters.

by Anonymousreply 31203/19/2019

Cheryl said Farrah wasn't particularly friendly to her during her returns. She didn't want to be there at all. There was even some tension between Farrah with both Kate and Jaclyn at first.

by Anonymousreply 31303/19/2019

Really? I never heard anything other than Farrah was cordial.

My favorite Charlie's Angels episode is Little Angels of the Night. S2, ep 21.

In an apartment building where many of the tenants are prostitutes, someone is killing them, so the owner calls Charlie. Kris and Kelly move in and they have their eye on the creepy guy who works at the nearby restaurant who delivers the food there.

Freddie is the creepy pizza delivery guy and the whores at the apartment building scream FREDDIE YOU CREEP!!!

by Anonymousreply 31403/19/2019

[quote]r235 I wish Zora would have beat the crap out of Tiffany instead of poor little Kris.

I once read an article by a doctor about unrealistic violence in movies. One thing he pointed out was (aside from people not dying immediately after being shot) that if you knock someone unconscious, you may well have given them brain damage.

But people in dramas are always getting hit on the head, then coming to with a slight headache.

by Anonymousreply 31503/19/2019

Kelly was shot in the head...twice? That explains so much...

by Anonymousreply 31603/20/2019

Don't forget Beamish was fingerbanging her when she was little.

by Anonymousreply 31703/20/2019

You should really STOP telling that story, R263.

by Anonymousreply 31803/20/2019

Yeah, and I never liked the mom on Family. Something about her was off.

by Anonymousreply 31903/20/2019

And she was injected with heroin multiple times, r316 and r317!

by Anonymousreply 32003/20/2019

I think today is last of Tiffany on MeTV.

by Anonymousreply 32103/20/2019

Julie got off to a good start, but then they made character very inconsistent. They should've had the character kept the tough edge she had at first. Tanya Roberts was willing to be physical and did most of own stunts on the show (like Kate Jackson).

by Anonymousreply 32203/20/2019

I found Julie to be an odd choice - she was a sexpot with more T&A to get male viewers, but she came off as dumb. The reason Cheryl Ladd was so successful is that men AND women liked her and she seemed smart (actually a lot smarter than Jill) enough to solve mysteries.

Smart is never a word that I would use to describe Julie.

by Anonymousreply 32303/20/2019

Cheap whore with early onset of old lady voice is how I would describe Julie. I hated everything about her.

by Anonymousreply 32403/20/2019

Julie Rogers was my fave

by Anonymousreply 32503/20/2019

R314 - Both Cheryl and Jaclyn looked great in that episode.

by Anonymousreply 32603/20/2019

Valley of the Dolls

by Anonymousreply 32703/20/2019

Season 4 needed more fun moments like this.

by Anonymousreply 32803/20/2019

R314, I loved that episode, too. I remember thinking that the actor who played Freddie was actually kinda cute.

R321, yes, today was the last of Tiffany. Checking the online guide, oddly, they are not starting with Julie's introductory episode tomorrow. They're jumping to episode three when Kris was kidnapped by that psycho and his crazy kids.

by Anonymousreply 32903/20/2019

It would be better with Shelley Hack, Rose!

by Anonymousreply 33003/20/2019

[quote]r325 Julie Rogers was my fave

She made those other dried-up bitches look like the crones they were.

by Anonymousreply 33103/20/2019

She didn't even look good in her prime, R331.

by Anonymousreply 33203/20/2019

STFU - she was gorgeous, with an incredible body.

by Anonymousreply 33303/20/2019

The hell she was.

She came off as a cheap, stupid skank.

by Anonymousreply 33403/20/2019

Julie kind of looks like a tranny there...

and her voice was terrible.

by Anonymousreply 33503/20/2019

Tanya was a pretty big sex symbol for a while. So obviously a lot of people found her attractive. She was in Playboy, and in high profile stuff that she got for her looks, like being in the James Bond movie. Even in the 90s she did the softcore movies that played on Cable all the time. Even on That 70s Show, she was Donna's hot mom.

by Anonymousreply 33603/20/2019

[quote]r336 She was in Playboy, and in high profile stuff that she got for her looks,

Notice Kate, Cheryl and Jackie were never featured in [italic]Playboy.[/italic].

Simply not good looking enough!

by Anonymousreply 33703/21/2019

[quote]r335 Julie kind of looks like a tranny there...

All the best people do - -

by Anonymousreply 33803/21/2019

At least Tiffany got to solve the case in the last episode all by herself. Of course, they couldn't bother putting her in the last shot.

That episode really missed a chance to have a Dynasty like catfight in the mansion pool between Kelly and Kris. I also love how they both never stop to realize what a sleaze the Patrick Duffy character was.

by Anonymousreply 33903/21/2019

Did Madison (Demi Moore) replace Kelly after she got shot in the face again?

by Anonymousreply 34003/21/2019

Also when I rewatched Little Angels of the NIght, Sabrina is SCARY skinny. I know Kate was tall, but her waist was TINY! I never thought Cheryl or Kate looked anorexic, but Kate must have been doing tons of coke to be that skinny.

by Anonymousreply 34103/21/2019

R339, I'm actually glad they didn't. I would never have wanted to see Kris and Kelly coming to blows over a man.

In contrast, I did like the brief fight between Kris and Julie when Julie was being mind-controlled by Eric what's his name.

by Anonymousreply 34203/21/2019

I can’t believe I saw Jane Wyman on the episode today. Was this post Falcon Crest?

by Anonymousreply 34303/21/2019
by Anonymousreply 34403/21/2019

R342 - that was one of the more entertaining episodes of Season 5.

by Anonymousreply 34503/21/2019

Actually, Julie’s goofy character would have fit right into the Drew Barrymore/Cameron Diaz/Lucy Liu CA universe.

by Anonymousreply 34603/21/2019

Right after Julie sucker punches Kelly!

by Anonymousreply 34703/21/2019

Team Tanya Roberts.

by Anonymousreply 34803/21/2019

R343 - Before FC

by Anonymousreply 34903/21/2019

Jaclyn was sporting some big 80s hair that’s for sure.

by Anonymousreply 35003/21/2019

The most interesting thing about Shelley was the constant interest in Shelley to turn her into a real actress. They just never gave up. A ton of TV movies and four series, after Charlie's Angels, with the female leads written for her. She had steady work offered to her until she retired from the business. Too bad. I would have liked to have seen her in some old lady roles.

by Anonymousreply 35103/21/2019

Shelley Hack was Cybill Shepherd minus charisma.

by Anonymousreply 35203/21/2019

The vibe I get from Tiffany is she’s like let’s get this case over with so I can go meet my real friends at the ballet and then the yacht club.

Shelley is missing the Jane Hathaway accent to complete her character.

by Anonymousreply 35303/21/2019

A brief appearance but Woody Allen's ultimate dream girl in Annie Hall. The guy Shelley was with sure looks like he was packing something.

by Anonymousreply 35403/21/2019

This swimsuit doesn't look very flattering on Tiffany.

by Anonymousreply 35503/21/2019

r342, Julie kicked Young and Restless' Victor Newman's ass. I give her props for that.

by Anonymousreply 35603/21/2019

[quote]r352 Shelley Hack was Cybill Shepherd minus charisma.

And, tits.

by Anonymousreply 35703/21/2019

Seeing this image I want to say that choosing Nancy Reagan for costume designer killed the show.

by Anonymousreply 35803/21/2019

Cybill S would have been the right age. Would hace been interesting with her as an angel.

by Anonymousreply 35903/21/2019

Big boned Cybill opposite petite Cheryl Ladd would have been visually interesting...

by Anonymousreply 36003/21/2019

What a mess Cybill would have turned that set into. "MY CONTRACT SAYS MS. SMITH HAS TO BE AT LEAST THREE FEET AWAY FROM ME AT ALL TIMES!"

by Anonymousreply 36103/21/2019

R360 - It would have been.

by Anonymousreply 36203/21/2019

I'd love to know how Shelley Hack suddenly popped up in a plum role in a Martin Scorsese film (King of Comedy)

by Anonymousreply 36303/21/2019

I just think Shelley was their idea of a perfect girlfriend. Pretty, sophisticated, and highly intelligent. She would love them for who they were because she was so intelligent. Fine. That didn't necessarily equal a great actress. I think they all just thought they would be her Svengali and bring out that one perfect performance they all though she had. Shelley was fine when she was playing Shelley: King of Comedy.

by Anonymousreply 36403/21/2019

R358 They sure made Jaclyn and Cheryl look matronly at times towards the end. It didn't help Tanya looked noticeable younger than both. Funny thing is that Tanya is actually two years older than Cheryl. Tanya shaved several years off her age. She could pull it off because she looked younger than her age. One newspaper writer joked about how she was 26 in 1980 and still managed to stay the same age two years later when she was doing Beastmaster press.

by Anonymousreply 36503/21/2019

You could make the case that Jaclyn Smith was technically the most beautiful of the angels, but 1 deadbeat actress was all that show could carry. She was incredibly placid. Kate, Farrah and Cheryl had a certain spark that livened up the paper thin material.

Subtler (cough cough) ones like Shelley and Tanya just didn't bring enough to the party, no matter how attractive.

by Anonymousreply 36603/21/2019

Jaclyn could convey warmth somewhat and had some likeability. She sure did a lot with what she had, though. She was a regular on the TV movie circuit for quite some time and made millions upon millions on her K-Mart clothing line alone.

by Anonymousreply 36703/21/2019

I wouldn’t call Jaclyn warm

by Anonymousreply 36803/21/2019

I would call her...amoebic.

She really did come across as partially lobotomized. (In the nicest way, of course.)

by Anonymousreply 36903/21/2019

Jaclyn was a great contrast to Kate and Farrah during that first season.

by Anonymousreply 37003/22/2019

Next to Angels In Chains and Game, Set, Death my fave CA ep is soon...Angel on The Line with the fabulous Margo.

by Anonymousreply 37103/22/2019

I felt sorry for and disgusted by Margo a.k.a. Paul Factor.

by Anonymousreply 37203/22/2019

The Margo episode really makes me question the Angel’s detective skills.

Who couldn’t clock Margo?

by Anonymousreply 37303/22/2019

They don't have detective skills. They keep asking questions until one of them gets captured. Then the others notice her gone and save her.

by Anonymousreply 37403/22/2019

They also go through file cabinets a lot R374

by Anonymousreply 37503/22/2019

Uh...I don't think anyone's surprised that Kelly couldn't figure out Margo was a dude...

by Anonymousreply 37603/22/2019

Lol, r376

by Anonymousreply 37703/22/2019

Both Vega$ and CA had somewhat sordid trans episodes in their final seasons.

by Anonymousreply 37803/22/2019

Y’all are hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 37903/22/2019

All of the seasons are fairly cheap to buy on DVD, with the exception of Season 5 which is $35 and up. Even though it has the least number of episodes...and Tanya Roberts 😑

by Anonymousreply 38003/22/2019

Tiffany was diet pills. Julie was BJ's Wholesale Club treadmill.

by Anonymousreply 38103/22/2019

R343

I saw it, too.

As long as I live, I will always have a soft spot for Charlie's Angels and the Bionic Woman.

Hell, I was in love with Jamie Sommers.

by Anonymousreply 38203/22/2019

[quote]All of the seasons are fairly cheap to buy on DVD, with the exception of Season 5 which is $35 and up. Even though it has the least number of episodes...and Tanya Roberts 😑

You're better off buying the complete series for under $30. I remember there was a long delay before season 4 was finally released on DVD. Someone claimed Shelley Hack was holding up the release but I think it's more likely Sony didn't trust there would be much consumer interest in the lackluster final 2 seasons. Season 5 is only available online as a made-on-demand burned DVD-R collection but you get legit pressed discs for all 5 seasons if you buy the complete series.

by Anonymousreply 38303/22/2019

R383 I always heard that's why they didn't release it, because Season 4 and 5 are seen as disappointments by many CA fans. Supposedly they rushed it when they did to capitalize on Farrah Fawcett's death. If not it, probably would've been released much later, maybe along with Season 5.

by Anonymousreply 38403/22/2019

The Angels were just jealous of Margo's elegance and beauty.

by Anonymousreply 38503/22/2019

Me too R382

by Anonymousreply 38603/22/2019

[quote] The Angels were just jealous of Margo's elegance and beauty.

Cheryl side eye.

by Anonymousreply 38703/22/2019

Wow, Margo looks a lot like Martha Raye in that pic, R385

by Anonymousreply 38803/22/2019

If only this had happened. Tiff could have left the agency and become their Bosley! !

by Anonymousreply 38903/22/2019

Always thought Tanya Roberts looked like a young Peg Bundy. With about as much class also.

by Anonymousreply 39003/23/2019

It's interesting that they went from a high-brow vibe when hiring Hack to...well...just this side of porn with her replacement...

by Anonymousreply 39103/23/2019

Ranking the replacement Angels:

1. Tanya Roberts

2. Cheryl Ladd

99. Shelley Hack

by Anonymousreply 39203/23/2019

One of Tanya Roberts' Johns keeps posting on here to try to build her up.

by Anonymousreply 39303/23/2019

R391, you’re saying graduating from a top school for models is whore-like?

by Anonymousreply 39403/23/2019

Loved me some of Tanya’s tig ol’ bitties!

by Anonymousreply 39503/23/2019

Before Shelley was cast, they were supposedly set on casting Barbara Bach. I'm guessing the network thought she was too exotic looking and nixed her casting.

Here's an interesting article by Liz Smith detailing Kate Jackson's ouster from the show and notes the raises Jaclyn and Cheryl would be getting for Season 4.

by Anonymousreply 39603/23/2019

I don’t think Barbara Bach would have increased the ratings either. Basically a Kelly Garrett clone looks wise. Interesting that the Liz Smith article states Spelling had wanted to get rid of Kate for awhile - since season two.

by Anonymousreply 39703/23/2019

r385, Margo is a DL icon! She has her own thread here:

by Anonymousreply 39803/23/2019

R397 I'm not so sure she would've either.

Kate wasn't afraid to speak up and tell them what she need to be improved to make the show better. Mainly the scripts. She'd even go off if press was on set - she didn't care. People Magazine recounted a fit Kate threw when they were on set early during season two to do a story on Cheryl Ladd joining the show. I linked it below.

[quote]Kate: “Why do I have to say this garbage? This is shit, shit, shit.”

She got even worse during season three, when they would let have time off to do the movie Kramer vs Kramer. She threw a huge tantrum during the episode Marathon Angels, which had a thin script even for the shows standards and was basically an excuse to show a bunch of women running in tight shirts and shorts bouncing around. That might have been the straw the broke the camels back.

by Anonymousreply 39903/23/2019

Whoops. The People Magazine article.

by Anonymousreply 40003/23/2019

Liz Smith certainly had a hard-on for Barbara Bach in that article. I wonder how/if she followed up once Hack was announced instead.

by Anonymousreply 40103/23/2019

The reported final 5 finalists for Season 5 new Angel. Mostly relative unknowns.

Tanya Robert's (who we know ultimately got the part)

Jayne Kennedy (probably the best known one at the time, was considered as Farrah's replacement also)

Cornelia Sharpe (a Faye Dunaway look-a-like)

Irena Ferris (was mostly known a model at the time, kinda looked like a blonde version of Tanya back then)

Susie Coelho (british actress, best known as Sonny Bono's girlfriend)

by Anonymousreply 40203/23/2019

R401 Not that I can find. She seemed pretty sure about Barbara having the role, someone high up must've told her that. I seen an article where Leonard Goldberg confirmed Barbara was indeed one of the ones considered, out of the 75 they screen tested. He said no decision had been made yet (which was correct).

Claudia Jennings was rumored to have been a front runner as well for Aaron Spelling anyway, but ABC didn't want her since she was a Playboy Playmate.

by Anonymousreply 40303/23/2019

I love Jennings but I don't know if she would have been a good fit either. Too similar in looks/stature to Cheryl Ladd and with even more of the softcore (?) porn quality that made Tanya seem out of place.

by Anonymousreply 40403/23/2019

Boy, the press was off on their bets for Season 5 as well. They believed Susie Coelho would land the gig. I bet Sonny Bono resented Tanya when he filmed his Season 5 guest spot, for snagging the role of Julie over his girlfriend Susie.

by Anonymousreply 40503/23/2019

at the end of the day, Kate was irreplaceable; Farrah was not as we learned with Cheryl.

Kate brought intelligence, acting ability and gravity to the whole 'beautiful women as private eyes' thing.

Once Kate left, the show was doomed to fail; season 4 was glamorous. I liked Shelley. I guess I'm one of the few. But Tanya? She would have been the most believable after Kate as a cop. But they made her a model.

by Anonymousreply 40603/23/2019

Yes, they needed at least one person to believable as a cop/private detective. Kate was that.

I read in another newspaper article they told Jayne Kennedy that she was too tall, especially next to Cheryl and that's why they didn't ultimately pick her.

Apparently Priscilla Barnes made it pretty far too, according to the same article. I think she might have been a good choice. She was a bit sophisticated, but could be tough also and good enough actress that she could handle the material without any problems.

The guy who wrote this article manages to take a shot somehow at every person he mentions! What a bitch (although he's often right)!

by Anonymousreply 40703/23/2019

[quote] Here's an interesting article by Liz Smith

Sorry, I only read Rona Barrett.

by Anonymousreply 40803/23/2019

[quote]r402 The reported final 5 finalists for Season 5 new Angel ... Cornelia Sharpe (a Faye Dunaway look-a-like)

She eventually married some big producer or studio head, or something...

by Anonymousreply 40903/23/2019

It wasn’t lack of Kate, it was the lousy scripts.

I read somewhere that Joanna Cassidy auditioned too. She might have been interesting. She played a villain in Season 5 in one of the Hawaii episodes.

by Anonymousreply 41003/23/2019

Liz Smith was full of shit.

Jaclyn signed a five year contract and stayed the whole time. She got raises but didn’t resign.

She did her five and then was out. If the show continued it would have without her.

by Anonymousreply 41103/23/2019

Jaclyn was such a boring person. I mean, there’s absolutely nothing notable about her besides her looks ... and that low, mellow voice that’s like a liquid sleeping pill.

by Anonymousreply 41203/23/2019

Irena Ferris married Mike Medavoy and she's a true Hollywood wife.

She and her hubby were Obama supporters and spent a weekend at the White House where they had to reveal actual birthdates and I think it was discovered Irena had shaved about 9 years off her actual age.

by Anonymousreply 41303/24/2019

I'm just fucking glad Tanya Roberts got it.

by Anonymousreply 41403/24/2019

Once she got CA Tanya's hourly rate must have skyrocketed.

by Anonymousreply 41503/24/2019

Kelly Garrett will fuck a bitch UP! I will love her always.

by Anonymousreply 41603/25/2019

I love fan appreciation videos.

by Anonymousreply 41703/25/2019

Tanya's Roberts over Jayne Kennedy???

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

by Anonymousreply 41803/25/2019

Jayne is 7 foot tall

by Anonymousreply 41903/25/2019

r416, Kelly Garrett was always the toughest Angel. She delivered more beatdowns than all the other Angels combined.

Here's another fan-made video of Kelly in action. This one even has the infamous Kelly-fighting-Margo scene at 3:10.

by Anonymousreply 42003/25/2019

Seasons 1and 2 Kelly was mysterious, savvy and tough. Seasons 3 and 4 Kelly was a PTA mom who owned a handgun.

by Anonymousreply 42103/25/2019

Those montages make the stunt doubling so obvious, especially where the double was a man. Cheap wigs!

by Anonymousreply 42203/26/2019

Why would they use stunt MEN? Surely there were stunt women in Hollywood looking for work at the time.

by Anonymousreply 42303/26/2019

Is it true they were bringing back a 'reformed' Margo after Shelley Hack's departure? I seem to recall there was quite a bit of buzz about this at the time, something along the lines that Margo would have done her time and then come back and helped out the Angels as part of her parole agreement. I think that would have been good.

by Anonymousreply 42403/26/2019

Paul Factor spent time in that mud puddle clutching his wig.

by Anonymousreply 42503/26/2019

Margo should have been the replacement Angel instead of Julie Moreno. She already had the Farrah look so it would have not been awkward.

by Anonymousreply 42603/26/2019

Margo had better hair than Tiffany, at least.

by Anonymousreply 42703/26/2019

Was Paul Factor Mx's sister?

by Anonymousreply 42803/26/2019

Paul Factor was Margo!

by Anonymousreply 42903/26/2019

WHo is Julie Moreno?

by Anonymousreply 43003/26/2019

Didn't Jaclyn do commercials for Paul Factor Makeup?

by Anonymousreply 43103/26/2019

Paul Factor always said Kelly was very pretty. Then the dumb fuck fell in a mud puddle later that day as Margo.

by Anonymousreply 43203/26/2019

We lied...hated her with a passion...

by Anonymousreply 43303/26/2019

The worst stunt double in all of film or television was when Jill was skateboarding to get away from the bad guys. Was so easy to see it was a guy.

by Anonymousreply 43403/26/2019

R434 If you look closely during the part where they're holding on to the back of the truck while on the skate board, you can see it's a man with a beard. lol.

by Anonymousreply 43503/26/2019

Lol I loved the famous CA canned scream.

by Anonymousreply 43603/26/2019

Shelley's classic made for TV film Death Car on the Freeway, which she made about the time around her time on Charlie's Angels, is on youtube. What a cast!

by Anonymousreply 43703/26/2019

Also starring god awful Trump supporter Morgan Brittany.

by Anonymousreply 43803/26/2019

and now it's a Trump thread.

by Anonymousreply 43903/27/2019

Poor Tiffany, Bosley says she decided to stay back east for awhile and that's the last anyone ever mentions her again. At least Sabrina got to be married and pregnant.

by Anonymousreply 44003/27/2019

staying back east translates to "sick of those bitches in LA".

by Anonymousreply 44103/27/2019

I'm gonna stay back east and finger my pussy.

by Anonymousreply 44203/27/2019

Demi Moore should have played Tiffany (after extreme plastic surgery) in the 2nd CA movie- out to get revenge on Charlie and the Angels for leaving her for dead on that island! And for Kelly’s cold shoulder for an entire year! And for giving her the Pinto!!!

by Anonymousreply 44303/27/2019

Where did MODEL Julie Rogers get her cop training from? How did she learn to hold a gun and kick ass while modeling?

by Anonymousreply 44403/28/2019

r444 - Harry taught her everything!

Except how to act.

by Anonymousreply 44503/28/2019

How dumb do you have to be to have to go to 'school' to learn how to be a model?

by Anonymousreply 44603/29/2019

They really did Julie a disservice by giving her that ridiculous opening. The first part was to show the Angels learning their skills, shooting, self defense, defensive driving. Julie gets walking with a book on her head. They present her as a joke from the start.

by Anonymousreply 44703/29/2019

They should've just brought Tanya on as tough cop from NY. She played a cop with Michelle Phillips in an episode of Vega$, which was apparently considered a potential new show for the network but never got off the ground. Aaron Spelling remembered her from that episode, which probably tipped the scale with her getting cast on the show.

They decided to mostly just having her be TNA though. The times when they let Julie be tough and physical, she showed real potential.

by Anonymousreply 44803/29/2019

^ I did not know that. They should have just had her play the same character.

by Anonymousreply 44903/29/2019

The thing I remember most about Julie is her junky treadmill in the opening. That's about it.

by Anonymousreply 45003/29/2019

The episode today with Kris and Julie dancing.

Yikes!

by Anonymousreply 45103/29/2019

Kris Munroe vs. Margaret Chenowith!!!

Joanna Cassidy doing her own dangerous stunts!

And I love how Cheryl tells her to stay down...and the bitch surrenders!

by Anonymousreply 45203/29/2019

r452, i found that so fucking hilarious. "Stay there!' lol.

by Anonymousreply 45303/30/2019

I love how in that episode, they are suppose to be finding a kidnapped guy, other girls are getting taken, and the Angels are back at the office in their swimsuits. I've noticed rewatching the Julie episodes that she got way more to do then poor Tiffany. Even when Julie was taken, they tried to save her, not let her float down the river.

by Anonymousreply 45403/30/2019

I think they were trying, purposely, to off-Tiffany.

by Anonymousreply 45503/30/2019

But did Julie know what the Pythagorean Theory is?

by Anonymousreply 45603/30/2019

The fight choreographer for CA was brilliant! The fight at R452 is almost as realistic as the one with Margo and Kelly wherein Kelly hits Margo, who reacts about 10 seconds later proceeds to shamble over to the mud puddle, pause for another ten seconds and then proceeds to slowly 'fall'/sit down before finally lying down in the mud puddle and begin groaning.

by Anonymousreply 45703/30/2019

Margo slipped and fell into the mud puddle ad it was trying to escape from Kelly.

by Anonymousreply 45803/30/2019

And I don’t think they ever showed the kidnapped “dancers” after they were snatched .

We’re they rescued?

I don’t think the Angels gave a shit.

by Anonymousreply 45903/30/2019

I think Stacy killed them.

by Anonymousreply 46003/30/2019

I've never known a Stacy that wasn't a bitch.

by Anonymousreply 46103/30/2019

Stacy rhymes with Tracy and Macy and all those other jive names that hookers like to latch onto!

by Anonymousreply 46203/30/2019

Jill takes a bow.

by Anonymousreply 46303/30/2019

Joanna Cassidy Is always a delight.

by Anonymousreply 46403/30/2019

And she was hilariously pissed off throughout that whole episode.

by Anonymousreply 46503/30/2019

I loved all the angels and the whole series but Season One is just fucking iconic in every way imaginable.

by Anonymousreply 46603/30/2019

R466 I think I'd have to agree. The chemistry between the original 3 angels were definitely the best and the first season had a very few mediocre or dud episodes.

by Anonymousreply 46703/30/2019

Season One's "Angels in Chains" is the most iconic episode in the entire series.

(I'm loving the bitch-face on that butch prison guard!)

by Anonymousreply 46803/30/2019

[quote] r446 How dumb do you have to be to have to go to 'school' to learn how to be a model?

Kim Alexis was discovered in a modeling school in Savannah or something.

by Anonymousreply 46903/30/2019

Get out of here Kim. Go to the hemorrhoid thread where you belong please. Back to our Tiff and assorted angels.. except Julie.

by Anonymousreply 47003/30/2019
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by Anonymousreply 47303/30/2019

Cheryl, you’re not pulling off that hat.

by Anonymousreply 47403/30/2019

WHY would they agree to this???

by Anonymousreply 47503/30/2019
by Anonymousreply 47603/30/2019

Sheesh, R475, Jaclyn's camel-toe is off the hook! You can practically see her kidneys!

by Anonymousreply 47703/31/2019

Now this should have been the spin-off series! Jill, Kris, and the Cobra

by Anonymousreply 47803/31/2019

I remember how disappointed I was with all of Farrah’s guest appearances in Seasons 3 and 4. The storylines were boring and there wasn’t enough interaction between her and the other actresses.

And the hair! I hated the hair! Farrah never looked good in any other hairstyle other than her trademark ‘do. On the other hand, I’ve never seen any other actress pull off the Farrah ‘do well.

by Anonymousreply 47903/31/2019

Farrah did not want to be there so and they knew interaction with Cheryl and Shelley might be awkward. So I bet they wrote those epis as more of a Farrah showcase with limited interaction with the the other angels.

by Anonymousreply 48003/31/2019

Farrah shat in people's yards.

by Anonymousreply 48103/31/2019

You better believe it, r481!

by Anonymousreply 48203/31/2019

Poor Jaclyn had a camel toe on the show a few times. During "the walk" part of the opening credits for seasons 2 and 3 and the hooker episode in season 4 already discussed earlier in the thread.

by Anonymousreply 48303/31/2019

This one, r483?

by Anonymousreply 48403/31/2019

While "Angels in Chains" is iconic, the season 4 prison episode "Caged Angels" is great too. Kris goes undercover for this one and is harassed by predatory, obese lesbian Big Aggie (Shirley Stoler). DL icon Sally Kirkland also stars as tall, clumsy lesbian Lonnie.

And then there are lines like this.

"Start shucking, down to the pink. Just pretend I'm your mama."

by Anonymousreply 48503/31/2019

Sally turned up again in S5 in the episode where the Angels go undercover as taxi drivers.

by Anonymousreply 48603/31/2019

A friend of mine did hair and makeup in the 70s, and the talk amongst professionals back in the day was that Jaclyn Smith had the ideal face.

On the other hand, a review of her TV movie about Jackie Kennedy mentioned that staring at her face for 2 hours made one sadly aware of the difference between prettiness and a deeper beauty.

by Anonymousreply 48703/31/2019

R486 That one isn't a bad episode either. Probably the best episode after they returned to LA after "Angels on the Line" and "Attack Angels". Julie has a good scene where she tells the guy with the pipe "Drop it, or you'll go down with it!" and she means it.

by Anonymousreply 48803/31/2019

I like the Julie scene when she's on top of the car, holding the wipers, get driven around the parking garage. Swaying back and forth.

by Anonymousreply 48903/31/2019

Hey guys- I have my own thread now, y’know!

Totally psyched to be here!!!

by Anonymousreply 49003/31/2019

Hi Tonya! Is it the "Flash in the Pan: Forgotten "Celebrities" thread?

by Anonymousreply 49103/31/2019

I will drop you like a sack of potatoes, Tiffany - do not fuck with me, bitch. You may have an Ivy League education but I’m from the mean streets!

by Anonymousreply 49203/31/2019

I just bet you are.

by Anonymousreply 49303/31/2019

I liked both Tiffany and Julie and wonder why Shelley Hack and Tanya Roberts never did a tastefully done nude pictorial together.

by Anonymousreply 49403/31/2019

If Tiffany stayed back east on the prostitution/ model case, why didn’t she ever come back? She missed out on Hawaii.

by Anonymousreply 49503/31/2019

She did come back for Season 6!

by Anonymousreply 49603/31/2019

This is thread that keeps on giving! 😂😂😂

by Anonymousreply 49703/31/2019

Tiff and Julie could have had some good scenes. It would have been fun teaming up a cheap whore from the streets with an over-educated, upper crust Connecticut Yankee. I wouldn't have minded a season of Chris, Tiff, and Julie.

by Anonymousreply 49803/31/2019

Kate was the rugged one. Heh.

by Anonymousreply 49903/31/2019

Angels in Chains

by Anonymousreply 50003/31/2019

[quote]r402 The reported final 5 finalists for Season 5 new Angel - Tanya Robert's, Jayne Kennedy. Cornelia Sharpe, Irena Ferris, Susie Coelho ...

Kennedy and Sharpe did some cheesy TV movie together 1977 called COVER GIRLS. [italic] ("Two beautiful fashion models work undercover as secret agents.") [/italic]

Maybe someone at ABC saw that and it put them both in contention?

by Anonymousreply 50103/31/2019

R459 The "kidnapped" dancers were the other girls in on the kidnapping.

by Anonymousreply 50204/01/2019

Jayne would have never let Tiff just float away. I hate to say it but neither would Tøanya.

by Anonymousreply 50304/01/2019

Jayne was shit. Only liked her as a guest on Wonder Woman and 227.

by Anonymousreply 50404/01/2019

Neither would Buck, r503!

by Anonymousreply 50504/01/2019

R487 that's a bit silly. She was beautiful and considered as such. Nobody said she was some deep great artist.

by Anonymousreply 50604/01/2019

I wonder what a spinoff starring Tiffany and Julie would have been called.

by Anonymousreply 50704/02/2019

Charlie's Assholes? R507?

by Anonymousreply 50804/02/2019

Boobs and the Brain

by Anonymousreply 50904/02/2019

Charlie’s Angels: The Other Ones

by Anonymousreply 51004/02/2019

I would rather that instead of going back east Tiff headed south and took a job at Mel's Diner. Driving everyone crazy with a week thesis defense. "You dingy broad. No one is interested in another lecture on Drosophila". " Mr. Sharples. If you please! A live unexamined is not worth living!"

by Anonymousreply 51104/02/2019

Imagine if Sabrina returned to lead an East Coast Angels division with Tiffany and Julie!

by Anonymousreply 51204/02/2019

Julie on the East Coast? As what? A hooker in the Bronx?

by Anonymousreply 51304/02/2019

Is it true Beth Howland was in the running to become the newest angel, Vera?

by Anonymousreply 51404/02/2019

The hairdressers on the show must've hated Shelley, right?

by Anonymousreply 51504/02/2019

She backed out when Aaron Spelling drew the line at the straws. She wanted spilled straws, her trademark, in her little bio opening.

by Anonymousreply 51604/02/2019

"And they were each assigned very hazardous duties"

cut to Vera at Mel's.

I took them away from all that. Now they work for me. My name is Charlie.

Then Linda Lavin starts singing the CA theme with the new lyrics she wrote.

by Anonymousreply 51704/02/2019

bump bump bump bump baahhhhh

by Anonymousreply 51804/02/2019

Vera and Tiff could have just traded places.

by Anonymousreply 51904/02/2019

You got the feeling that the hair/makeup staff did make Hack look awful on purpose at times, but the montage above at R476 has her looking pretty great consistently.

Perhaps the stories of her finally bringing aboard her own hair/makeup people from the modeling world (after the show's people had failed or sabotaged her) are true.

Farrah looks like she doesn't want to be there, and a bit drugged, in the return episodes.

by Anonymousreply 52004/02/2019

I can barely keep up with gay culture. My dick is constantly in softball players. Who is this now?

by Anonymousreply 52104/02/2019

MD = Mommie Dearest?

by Anonymousreply 52204/02/2019

JACKIE! Ooohhh!

by Anonymousreply 52304/03/2019

JACKIE! Ahhhhh!

by Anonymousreply 52404/03/2019

JACKIE vogue-ing!!!

by Anonymousreply 52504/03/2019

Cheryl and Jacks look perfectly at home in that plastic pant ensemble. Who the fuck though it was a good idea to put Shelley in those? As has been pointed out many times though when you put Shelley in a proper style for her she clearly is the standout. So long as it is still photography. As a model she knew just how to tilt her head, where to look, how to hold her arms, etc etc etc that experience comes through.

by Anonymousreply 52604/03/2019

Taking a squat.

by Anonymousreply 52704/03/2019

Rewatching the Julie episodes and she's really not that bad. She fits in really well. They utilize her better than they did my poor sweet Tiffany.

by Anonymousreply 52804/04/2019

I loved all of them except Sabrina Duncan.

by Anonymousreply 52904/04/2019

Tiffany suffered for their sins.

by Anonymousreply 53004/04/2019

Sabrina is the only character who was strong from the beginning to the end of her run.

Jill was great S1 but all of her subsequent guest appearances sucked. Kelly was the tough brunette with a mysterious background in S1 but became full time PTA mom by S4. Kris was cute during her first 1 &1/2 seasons but was indistinguishable from Kelly by S4. They also stylized her in a way that aged her about ten years. Tiffany and Julie were consistent but weak because of poor utilization and bad storylines.

by Anonymousreply 53104/04/2019

face it - they were all cheap whores.

Except Our Tiff.

by Anonymousreply 53204/04/2019

They should have hired Selma. She already had her intro filmed.

by Anonymousreply 53304/04/2019

Marsha Warfield would have made a terrific angel too!

by Anonymousreply 53404/04/2019

Patrick Duffy's character was a sleaze. But he was painted as a confused romantic.

Miss Reed killed him because he was jealous of his relationships with the Angels?

by Anonymousreply 53504/04/2019

What if he had pulled a Biff and did them all in one episode? Including Bos and Charlie over the phone?

by Anonymousreply 53604/04/2019

MARGO IS ON RIGHT NOW!!!

by Anonymousreply 53704/04/2019

R537 thank you! Love Margo - "Poor thing!' I forgot her fantastic line delivery and that big bird costume. Whoever heard of a hypnotist at a singles club?

by Anonymousreply 53804/04/2019

I’m glued to what’s happening at the hotline club. Margo is very strange.

by Anonymousreply 53904/04/2019

You are welcome.

My mother with dementia saw her and said "Is she a man?" LOL

by Anonymousreply 54004/04/2019

Margo is sexy in that cowboy hat.

by Anonymousreply 54104/04/2019

Kelly is very pretty.

by Anonymousreply 54204/04/2019

I'm still reeling from the Beamish episode.

by Anonymousreply 54304/04/2019

Damn writers strike shortened the final season.

by Anonymousreply 54404/04/2019

R540 your mother is a better detective than Ms. Kelly 'how did you get this number?' Garrett.

by Anonymousreply 54504/04/2019

Factor, Paul Factor. Very strange

by Anonymousreply 54604/04/2019

Paul Factor is preoccupied with the word pretty.

by Anonymousreply 54704/04/2019

R545, i know, right? LOL

by Anonymousreply 54804/04/2019
by Anonymousreply 54904/04/2019

Nothing like a tranny in a mud puddle.

by Anonymousreply 55004/04/2019
by Anonymousreply 55104/04/2019

Margot looks like Jimmy Fallon in that knife “fight”.

by Anonymousreply 55204/04/2019

Lol, 552

by Anonymousreply 55304/04/2019

I watched today’s episode with my grandma. She can’t believe they showed that shit on tv.

by Anonymousreply 55404/04/2019

Arrêtez!

Is Margo more ladylike in French?

by Anonymousreply 55504/04/2019

Prt 2, Tiffany and Company, featuring Margo the Wonder Hypnotist!

by Anonymousreply 55604/04/2019

Will somebody do a part 2? Tiffany and Company?

by Anonymousreply 55704/04/2019

I sure hope so!

by Anonymousreply 55804/04/2019

When Charlie died he left the agency to Tiffany. She's going to reunite all the angels. They'll be Charlie's Golden Angels.

by Anonymousreply 55904/04/2019

Sabrina was not invited. Too butch.

by Anonymousreply 56004/04/2019

Farrah and Ryan kind of looked alike.

by Anonymousreply 56104/04/2019

Lee is gay - surprised more people aren't aware of that. She needed a career boost - he needed a beard.

by Anonymousreply 56204/04/2019

I knew, I knew!

by Anonymousreply 56304/04/2019

Please. No homosexual husbands on a Tiffany Welles thread.

by Anonymousreply 56404/04/2019

Lee wasn't gay. He worshiped Barbara Stanwyck!

by Anonymousreply 56504/04/2019

Please, Robert. No pass around bottoms on a Tiffany Welles thread either.

by Anonymousreply 56604/05/2019

No, that’s belongs in the Julie Rogers thread.

by Anonymousreply 56704/05/2019

Favorite recipes for spam belong in the Julie Rogers thread too.

by Anonymousreply 56804/05/2019

With everything Kelly has been through, why was she so upset about phone calls. She's been shot, hunted on an island, kidnapped multiple times, almost drowned, had her car explode multiple times, Beamish. But a voice on the phone sends her over the edge.

by Anonymousreply 56904/05/2019

Well a girl can only take so much

by Anonymousreply 57004/05/2019

r569 those were my thoughts too. It's like bitch, this isn't squat.

by Anonymousreply 57104/05/2019

I liked her better when she was selling Charlie perfume.

by Anonymousreply 57204/05/2019

Sad to hear Margo committed suicide in real life.

by Anonymousreply 57304/05/2019

Is Lee Majors really gay?? I googled it and it seems inconclusive. Holy shit I feel like my childhood was a lie!

by Anonymousreply 57404/05/2019

Who was Margo - Paul Factor?

by Anonymousreply 57504/05/2019

Fucking Chorus Line Angels is today’s episode! 🤢

by Anonymousreply 57604/05/2019

There's someone here that doesn't know Lee Majors is gay and for a short period sold his ass?

by Anonymousreply 57704/05/2019

Why did they show that shitty dance routine twice at the end?

by Anonymousreply 57804/05/2019

check

by Anonymousreply 57904/05/2019

David Doyle told them to. Pals fuckers and friends to the end. And stupid Nancy Fox was in this episode!

by Anonymousreply 58004/05/2019

r574 - Rock Hudson himself befriended and dated Lee when he was in college and then brought him out to Hollywood. Although Lee seemed to have that cleansed from his official A&E Biography

by Anonymousreply 58104/05/2019

I like this picture. You knew dad knew what was going on. Lee was EXACTLY Rock's type. A lot of other players on the football team got pimped too.

by Anonymousreply 58204/05/2019

Yes , was this Nancy’s third appearance?

Who did she have the dirt on to keep showing up?

by Anonymousreply 58304/05/2019

Was Lee adopted, cause he sure looks better than his parents.

by Anonymousreply 58404/05/2019

R583 Nancy Fox was a long-time friend of Jaclyn Smith's, so that's why she showed up so much on the show.

by Anonymousreply 58504/05/2019

I wish Nancy Fox and Jaclyn Smith had never even known each other!

by Anonymousreply 58604/05/2019
by Anonymousreply 58704/05/2019

Pals, Bottoms and Friends!!! 💃 👯 🕺🤹🏻‍♀️

by Anonymousreply 58804/05/2019

I wonder if that whore, Julie's thread is about to close with 600 posts. Funny. Our Tiff is the only Angel that can close out a thread.

by Anonymousreply 58904/05/2019

r525, Jaclyn's trying to hide her massive camel-toe.

by Anonymousreply 59004/05/2019

WTH, Sabrina?

by Anonymousreply 59104/05/2019

At least Sabrina had something else to fall back on if the detective thing didn't work out.

by Anonymousreply 59204/05/2019

Shelley wasn’t the only top model!

by Anonymousreply 59304/05/2019

Did they ever explain how Kelly's car exploded so many times and then reappeared in front of the office by the end of the episode? Did Charlie purchase in bulks and kept replacements in storage?

by Anonymousreply 59404/05/2019

Unaired footage from the Season 4 episode where Kelly is injected with heroin.

by Anonymousreply 59504/05/2019

The was the first time in a long time I've seen the Margo episode. 3 things that stand out for me.

1. That crazy bitch Margo fell into that mud puddle HARD! I cracked up! LOL!!!

2. Damn Kris. She was a true pioneer in the art of snatching wigs. She actually, well, snatched wigs. She just walked up and snatched Margo's wig off so nonchalantly. Hilarious!

3. Kelly Garrett. GURL! She's always been my favorite angel but as others have pointed out, she's been through much worse. That little collapse she did in Bosley's arms was just doing too much.

by Anonymousreply 59604/05/2019

4 more replies, then I’m on the first flight back to Boston!

by Anonymousreply 59704/05/2019

Is anyone gonna start a Part 2?

by Anonymousreply 59804/05/2019
by Anonymousreply 59904/05/2019

Good night Angels.

by Anonymousreply 60004/05/2019

i think it’s time to bid Tiffany farewell for good.

by Anonymousreply 60104/05/2019
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