Treasons to Postpone (The Mueller Investigation Part 78)

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Previous thread titles for reference:

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation (10/27/17)

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation, Part Two (10/28/17)

The Four Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 3 (10/31/17)

A Man For All Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 4 (11/5/17)

It's Beginning to Look a lot like Treason! The Mueller Investigation Part 5 (12/4/17)

Treason Is The Reason For The Season! The Mueller Investigation Part 6 (12/16/17)

Treason to Believe (The Mueller Investigation Part 7) (12/26/17)

I Love You For Sentimental Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 8) (1/3/18)

Give Me One Treason To Stay Here... (The Mueller Investigation Part 9) (1/15/18)

Treasons of Love (The Mueller Investigation Part 10) (1/24/18)

For Treasons Which Are Well Known To Them (The Mueller Investigation Part 11) (1/30/18)

Come on and Treason Down, Treason Down the Road (The Mueller Investigation Part 12) (2/6/18)

13 Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 13) (2/18/18)

By Treason of Insanity (The Mueller Investigation Part 14) (2/23/18)

The Edge of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 15) (2/28/18)

A Treason to Live; A Treason to Die (The Mueller Investigation Part 16)…(3/10/18)

Treasons of the Heart (The Mueller Investigation Part 17) (3/17/18)

A Stormy Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 18) (3/21/18)

Lovin', Touchin', Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 19) (3/26/18)

Everything Happens for a Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 20) (4/4/18)

For All the Right Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 21) (4/11/18)

Treasons Change (The Mueller Investigation Part 22) (4/16/18)

Dangerous Tre'asons (The Mueller Investigation Part 23) (4/22/18)

Don't Stop (the) Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 24) (5/1/18)

Got This Treason in My Body (The Mueller Investigation Part 25) (5/7/18)

I'm Treason on a Jet Plane... (The Mueller Investigation Part 26) (5/14/18)

Treasonnaires' Disease (The Mueller Investigation Part 27) (5/21/18)

You've Lost That Lovin' Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 28) (6/2/18)

Multiple Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 29) (6/9/18)

For Undisclosed Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 30) (6/18/18)

The Apple Doesn't Fall Far from the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 31) (06/23/18)

Treason d'être (The Mueller Investigation Part 32) (06/30/18)

My Treasons Are Not My Own (The Mueller Investigation Part 33) (07/08/18)

The Treasons a Baby Cries (The Mueller Investigation Part 34) (07/13/19)

Get to Know Your Family Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 35) (07/15/18)

All You Got To Do is Hold Him And Kiss Him and Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 36) (07/17/18)

Fall or Spring? Which Would / Wouldn't Be Your Favorite Treason? (The Mueller Investigation Part 37) (07/18/18)

It's the Time of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 38) (07/21/18)

My Treasonal Summer Job Abroad (The Mueller Investigation Part 39) (07/25/18)

Yellow is the Color of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 40) (07/27/18)

The Treason for my Life's Trials and Tribulations (The Mueller Investigation Part 41) (07/31/18)

Hunting Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 42) (08/04/18)

It's Swimsuit Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 43) (08/07/18)

Treasonably Priced (The Mueller Investigation Part 44) (08/12/18)

Tre45onal Affective Disorder (The Mueller Investigation Part 45) (08/16/18)

A Plea for Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 46 (08/21/18)

Untreasonably Hot (The Mueller Investigation Part 47) (08/22/18)

There is a Treason... Turn, Turn, Turn (The Mueller Investigation Part 48) (08/24/18)

The Voice of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 49) (08/28/18)

The Golden Age of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 50) (09/03/18)

Treasons for Remaining Anonymous (The Mueller Investigation Part 51) (09/08/18)

Hurricane Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 52) (09/16/18)

All Natural Mushroom Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 53) (09/22/18)

Treasoning with an Alcoholic (The Mueller Investigation Part 54) (09/28/18)

Judicial Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 55) (10/06/18)

Treasons for Hidden Genius (The Mueller Investigation Part 56) (10/15/18)

Trick or Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 57) (10/25/18)

Several Treasons to Get Out and Vote in the Midterms (The Mueller Investigation Part 58) (11/5/18)

Heading Back to the Magical Keebler Elf Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 59) (11/11/18)

It's Turkey Picking Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 60) (November 18, 2018)

Stepping into the Holiday Treason! (The Mueller Investigation Part 61) (November 26, 2018)

Treason's Greetings! (The Mueller Investigation Part 62) (November 29, 2018)

Spirit of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 63) (December 3, 2018)

'Tis the Treason to be Jolly (The Mueller Investigation Part 64) (December 5, 2018)

Celebrate this Holiday Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 65) (December 8, 2018)

Treasons to Get out of Solitary (The Mueller Investigation Part 66) (December 10, 2018)

Numerous Treasons For Silence (The Mueller Investigation Part 67) December 12, 2018)

Treasons We Celebrate This Season (The Mueller Investigation Part 68) (December 15, 2018)

Trimming the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 69) (December 19, 2018)

O Christmas Treason, O Christmas Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 70) (December 22, 2018)

Treasons We'll Be Ringing in the New Year (The Mueller Investigation Part 71) (December 27, 2018)

Treasons I'm Coming For You (The Mueller Investigation Part 72) (January 3, 2019)

A Shutdown is Perfectly Treasonable (The Mueller Investigation Part 73) (January 6, 2019)

Treasons I'm Focused (The Mueller Investigation Part 74) (January 10, 2019)

Treasons We Need A Wall (The Mueller Investigation Part 75) (January 13, 2019)

Mid-Treason Replacement (The Mueller Investigation Part 76) (January 15, 2019)

A Treasonable Request (The Mueller Investigation Part 77) (January 19, 2019)

Treasons to Postpone (The Mueller Investigation Part 78) (January 23, 2019)

What happened?

Nancy says....

Well done...

Ted Lieu's tweet regarding Cohen postponing his testimony:

hopefully, better link ^^

Thanks r8

Pelosi basically told that fat piece of shit to fuck right off and he could give his SOTU address in the House Of Representatives WHEN SHE SAYS HE CAN.

idiot...failed civics..russia-taint.

^^^^

Didn’t Stormy also receive threats? A pattern? He and his shit family are thugs. I believe Cohen on this.

Also support Nan even if it all seems so childish. Sometimes you just have to lower yourself to another in order to get thru to them.

I wonder if he'll come to the Capitol with a small military force and then push his way onto the floor.

R14, I think that might be... Really something impeachable.

press corps told to gather at WH.

Some of Cohen's clients are Russian mafia types, supposedly. Maybe they sent Cheeto's message.

77 completed threads is over 46,000 posts. And still going nowhere

Hang on to that daydream r18......

So I guess earlier posters were right about the possibility of 22 congressman being indicted. Turns out 22 of them opposed barring President Trump from exiting NATO.

22 of them are under Putin's control. and that's just the House!

Thanks for the tread.

Oh, I don't think it's Trump and Giuliani that are threatening Cohen. I think this comes from above, from Putin.

R20, excellent they identified themselves. Now the press and people can start to investigate them.

The irony is Cohen used to be the one who threaten other people for Trump! The circle of jerks!

Not your best title. Try harder next time.

I mean, Putin literally poisons and kills people in almost full view and gets away with it. Imagine the threats that are coming to Cohen and others.

Maduro blocks relations with the US, expels US diplomats.

Trump's found his target to bump his poll ratings.

He can't just go to war with Venezuela. There's no real conflict yet. Nothing to justify war.

Trump said Nancy’s afraid of the truth?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Yeesh

R27 Trump is essentially legitimizing a "colored revolution" type coup in another country. He's rolling his dice. If it works he can claim the credit. If it doesn't he will denounce the suppression. He is playing with people's lives but we know that has never stopped him in his egomaniacal pursuit of self glory.

Putin is friends with the current Venezuelan regime. Maybe Trump traded Syria for Venezuela?

R33 There's no real friends in geopolitics... only you and the other countries you can manipulate. Going after Venezuela takes the heat off Russia-gate for a bit. It's just distraction... probably won't even amount to much. The Venezuelan regime only has a problem if the army changes side.

OP, ignore the cunt at r25, your newest thread title is fine.

R35 Postpone is the keyword... the word du jour! Very apropriate!

Brilliant title yet again, OP. Very timely, between Nancy and Cohen.

Nancy is bringing true power back to the House and the Legislative Branch.

Maggie Haberman:

Potus says Cohen is afraid of talking about other clients as well. What?

Trump insinuating Cohen was going to talk about...Hannity?

CNN's Jeremy Herb:

Rep. Stephen Lynch, a senior member of the Oversight Committee, says he expects Cummings will issue a subpoena for Cohen's testimony.

Lynch said that he's spoken with Cummings, and the "overwhelming consensus" among panel members is that Cohen should be subpoenaed.

So, the rotting orange pisspot in the White House has moved on from threatening a woman he was intimate with to threatening an entire family! What an utter piece of shit he continues to prove he is.

R25 try harder at your trolling game. You'll never earn a full ration with that pathetic attempt.

R41 I remember Trump's thugs threatened Stormy's kid, too. Was Cohen involved in that as well?

That's right, R43. I forgot he'd already threatened a child, along with a woman. Thank you.

His little mushroom button must have twitched, threatening an entire family, this time!

It's funny that even after Nancy making a fool out of him twice... he still doesn't have a nickname for her.

Fox News is on (not my choice) and they just showed Dotard blaming Nancy for cancelling his speech and saying she's destroying the constitution and using fake reasons (security) to do so....

And this idiot who's commenting is saying he's thankful to Dotard for doing this because we don't need a State of the Union and just like the Correspondent's Dinner, it's great he's cancelling these things because it's excess and the country doesn't need them.

Uh... so which is it? Is it Nancy's fault and she's trying to destroy the Constitution by not allowing him a State of the Union --- or is Dotard a hero for supposedly doing away with it?

Jesus, Rethugs are stupid.

[quote]he still doesn't have a nickname for her.

He doesn't do that with people who intimidate him. He doesn't have one for Mueller either.

R45 What's in the Constitution: Checks and Balances among the three branches of government! The Speaker has the obligation to counter a President behaving badly and irresponsibly.

Every day, I just keep hoping for a stroke or a heart attack.

R49 Further proof thoughts and prayers do NOT work!

Do we have any sense of what threats have been made to Cohen's family? Is it what Trump and Giuliani said on TV and in tweets or is there something else/more?

R51 What's puzzling is why is the FBI/law enforcement not be all over this if the accusation is being reported so publicly. Threatening someone and his family for testifying to Congress is very much illegal. Even if it's a Trump surrogate (which Cohen himself once was) was doing the threatening, he or she should be arrested/investigated immediately.

Why can't the fat orange fuck just DIE?!?

r51....Just Trump bringing up Cohens father in law is intimidation....he basically alluded to the FIL being guilty of crimes...since there are no known charges it also becomes a veiled threat.

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[quote] R45: It's funny that even after Nancy making a fool out of him twice... he still doesn't have a nickname for her.

He says he calls her “Nancy”, R45. Do you think someone should tell him that’s actually her name?

Ok, first name only is still disrespectful. Maybe he should just be disinvited completely?

The world should just recognize Nancy Pelosi as US Interim President. This thing is gonna get ugly. Trump is a cornered rat. If he gives in, he's as good as dead politically. If he doesn't, both he and the GOP will have to face the wrath of the people. Protests are already starting to gain momentum.

And his poll numbers slide into Oblivion, r56.

And this is without anything from Mueller or Cohen.

Just think how low he can go when we see those tax returns and indictments.

There is no easier way to get people angry at you than hitting their pocket books. Trump is being extremely stupid with this prolonged shutdown, but we all know he is stupidity personified. He got pampered and kowtowed to for 2 years by the GOP Congress and has no idea bullying will not work with a hostile House.

[quote]He says he calls her “Nancy”

Funnily enough, that’s also his nickname for Miz Lindsey.

Trump has no nickname for neither Pelosi, Mueller nor Putin. The three he fears.

R52, I’ve thought about that too. And the only answer I can come up with is that he’s POTUS. He’s committing these crimes right out in the open AND let’s face it, the POTUS gets special treatment. We’ve never before had a POTUS completely vandalize, abuse, and shit upon every single norm and tradition. Because the POTUS has certain Executive Privileges, each event has to be individually scrutinized according to POTUS’ unique privileges within the parameters of the Law. It’s complicated.

The shorter answer is that none of us were ready for this, including the FBI and our Constitution. Fortunately, we are adapting at lightening speed.

I met with a CIO from DHS today who said Trump is playing 3 dimensional chess. I almost laughed in his face but couldn't unfortunately.

If Trump has to deliver the SoU somewhere else, he is going to look castrated by Madam Speaker. I love it.

R62 Well, maybe throwing shit at a blowing fan is 3 dimensional chess to a stupid rich buffoon who has no idea how real people's lives are affected by missing paychecks.

I wish some stray Venezuelan would just off him, already.

Did anyone watch those four criminal assholes on Ari. I couldn’t bear to watch. Did they say anything of interest? Or just lies?

R62, when people say things like that, I give a neutral response that only those in-the-know understand. “Well, that’s an interesting perspective.” Uh-huh. Dumb fuck.

I wish a hungry gator would emerge from a pond on the golf course on the "Winter White House" and gobble his fat ass up!

R62, my “dumb fuck” was not for you, but my imagined Deplorable.

"Radicalized democrat" is this year's "nasty woman" - we need t shirts! I think trumps cheetoh dust sprayer must be furloughed he looked very pale today.

I'm over Ari. To me having those people on was just sensationalism. And we sure as shit don't need to hype this mess. I mean if someone came to you with the outline of a novel or screenplay about this shit would you go for it? It's implausible.

I predict when the shutdown protests start to gain attention. The protesters would clearly be angry with Trump but the media will report they are anger at both sides!

The best part of my week was watching that smirky catholic douche show off his JANKY ass teeth on NBC. Haha his parents should have spent that PR firm money on some braces.

Something about Ari is insincere IMO. He has a really high opinion of himself. Sort of conceited. Also he's an ass kisser. Now, granted the people whose asses Ari usually kisses are VIP Liberal Legal scholars with a stellar reputation, some even legends in their own time. And he is so impressed with himself for sitting there with them. It's not the same as Chris Cuomo who has that enormous ego and loves to hang with Giuliani and Kelly Ann, and act like an asshole.

my favorite Legal guy is Toobin. I've read a couple of his books, also read Tapper's book on the 2000 election. Toobin is IMO the smartest of the three.

The media can be critiqued when it's all over. If they "both sides" the escalating anger over the shutdown out of a fear of upsetting conservatives, then they have absolutely no use whatsoever.

You know this stuff writes itself. If the news media just reports the unvarnished facts, just tells us what has happened, then it would be very clear there's not a "both sides." When you're wrong, your wrong. Trump wanted this shutdown for its own sake. It backfired on him. He thought he could bully and bypass Pelosi. He can't. He thought he could divide the Dems. Instead it's his own party's elected House & Senate members who are peeling off to go with Schumer and Pelosi. He is fucked. And MC Connell is fucked with him. He is opening up the floor to debate two bills tomorrow, but they re both doomed to fail. When the fuck is Mitch going to realize the time to play games is over. The people are sick of him and his bullshit. He needs to be expelled.

Being feared only works when you're not hated. Something Mitch is learning.

Sorry, what I mean is that Mitch being hated is now far more a factor than Mitch being feared. Lousy lack of an edit button.

The Kyle Kulinski Show speaking about Lindsey Graham:

"clutching his pearls"

Trump bullies and McConnell stalls, while Pelosi kicks their balls. Who's gonna last? The biggest problem is neither Trump nor McConnell have changed (or have the learning capacity to change) their strategy one iota.

Will Pres Bone Spurs be followed by Madame President Pelosi?

What's going on with Roger Stone? Wasn't he ready for an indictment?

How soon will 'Mother' Pence be moving into1600 Pennsylvania Ave.? Has she picked out her pattern?

I love you, R83.

Oh, Sarah Huckerbee Sanders, may Cosmic Karma come quickly, to you, your president, and all whom you admire or socialize with; you evil sociopath.

How do you look in the mirror and face the liar evil you represent? Your Master's poll numbers are down to 32 percent...and falling.

"Do I look like a man with a plan?!"

R85 Huckabeast has sociopaths in her family, so no wonder she would defend the punk.

I want her Lucy Van Pelt ass off my TV set as soon as possible.

Thanks, r86.

This is the Republican Party MO, on the 2011 shutdown:

“What we did learn is this — it’s a hostage that’s worth ransoming,” explained Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell

What's wrong with these people?

R66, I started to watch them, but they made my skin crawl so much I had to change the channel after a few minutes.

I cannot fathom what made Ari waste a second of his show on these confirmed liars, criminals, and traitors. The only thing I enjoy about his show anymore is when Mya Wiley is on. I wish MSNBC would shitcan Ari and give her his timeslot.

Moscow Mitch has (for the fourth time) denied a Senate vote to reopen the government. Surprised?Oh! get this......

"Len Blavatnik donated $3.5 million to Mitch McConnell's PAC from 2015 to 2017.

Ukrainian-born billionaire Len Blavatnik, who holds dual U.S.-U.K. citizenship, used to be a fairly run-of-the-mill campaign contributor, donating relatively modest amounts in a bipartisan fashion — and then the 2016 election cycle hit.

Beginning in 2015, Blavatnik lavished contributions on Republicans, with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell alone on the receiving end of $3.5 million between 2015 and 2017."

Also on the list of Russian gifts are Rubio and Graham...........The more the Senator gives gloating statements on Trump, and the more they defend him, the more suspect they are to Russian Money for their campaigns....

Do all of these Russian donations only go for campaign costs or can they be used for his personal expenses?

Anyway this shutdown is going to last forever..and i mean months or until the Mueller report is released.

No, r92, as soon as the mouth breathing rednecks don't get their tax refunds, the shit will hit the fan.

And that day is fast approaching. W2's have to be issued by the end of January.

Most people file as soon as they get their w2's. The biggest filing weekend starts on February 15, 2019. If refunds aren't going out (or going out at a turtle's pace because IRS employees aren't being paid), there will be screaming like you have never heard.

And his approval numbers will go down into the low 30's and he will effectively be over.

Deplorables don't GAF now because they personally haven't been hit. But if they can't get refunds, they will be pissed.

Wow. Trump just showed Frankie Five Angels his Sicilian brother in the gallery.

And the witness caved.

Stephen Miller was writing State of the Union address to blame Democrats for shutdown — until Nancy Pelosi pulled the rug out. Also, why is this White Supremacist still in the White House?

I just forwarded a screen shot of r83 to several friends, I am tickled pink by Mother’s good taste!!

I agree, the vast majority of Americans use their tax refund as part of their actual annual budget — it isn’t a “bonus,” it’s a planned for, relief upon source of income for families. Let’s see how much these shitheels like it when daddy takes their treat away. Also, I’m really starting to realize, yes, propaganda IS powerful, but it also only goes so far and has some limitations. There is such a thing as a tipping point, or a “bullshit plateau.” I mean, just how hard can Fox and Rush and Coulter and Hannity spin this shit? At the end of the day, NO REFUND. I suspect even the most devout Deplorables and church-goers will start realizing that they’re getting it up the no-no.

Oh Sarah,that smoke you smell is your ass burning you got from AOC.

It seems Nancy has brought Pres Bone Spurs to heel.

Nancy grabbed him by his pussy.

From the intelligence dude on Twitter who says he intends to destroy Lindsey Graham:

[quote]Grahams ties to RU, Mercer and Demint prbly come out before the pedophilla. Just sayin. <3

Following on that R93, didn't we just hear that the first delay in SNAP (food stamp) benefits is occurring because of the Shutdown? If that's true, how far behind can delays/stop-payments in SSI benefits be? You can't tell me a good portion of the Red-Neck, Trailer-Park, Faux News watching Trumpster crowd aren't on the receiving end of those benefits. All KINDS OF HELL is gonna be raised if those benefits don't make it through the mail.

r101 But how many of them will just direct their anger at Nancy instead? They compartmentalize everything this fucker does. There is zero accountability with the repugs. The media will always find a way to play bothsiderism. Until that stops, the repugs will never be held accountable. The midterms did a good job but had they not gerrymandered the hell out of the country, the bloodbath would have been off the charts.

Lindsey is having a hissy-fit because Nancy postponed the State of the Union.

R102 It doesn't matter what the deplorables think. Always remember they are the minority. As long as the Independent voters are with the Dems and keep blaming Trump for the shutdown, Nancy is in a very safe position.

Dems + Independents can form a WALL around Trump and the deplorables and pen them in like the stupid pigs they are.

Why can't they force this guy to testify like they would a private citizen? Wasn't his testifying factored into his sentence?

I call bullshit on the threats btw.

Former WH aide Cliff Sims' new book says Kellyanne is a leaker.

Why the fuck did Ari give airtime to these lying criminals? Did he think his expert lawyering would “break” them ? Done with him and his crap show.

Trump is toast. He’s over. Approval rating down to 32%. That’s nearing base metal. Voters won’t forget this shit. There’s a lot more than 800,000 people effected by it. He better hope a plane doesn’t fall out of the sky.

There’s no way this shutdown can last even 10 more days. It’s the Trump Do Nothing Shutdown. He can’t sustain it with his rhetoric or actions. He’s over.

Are all these treason threads the same obsessed OP?

The Kellyanne story linked above is a hoot.

[quote]people effected by it.

Oh, dear.

Deplorables are losing their shit over Trump capitulating to Nancy last night.

So far I have been called (on Facebook) a "liberal piece of shit," "f*ggot ass," "trash just like Pelosi..."

Meanwhile I just keep making memes like these and posting them....

I find it amazing that more isn’t being made of Cohen delaying because the faux-prez and his lawyer have threatened Cohen’s family.

I know FP and his cronies have been committing obstruction of justice right and left, but this seems so blatant, and it worked.

But is anyone in the media even asking what the threats were?

Keep it up, r114, and share here too!

Well since you asked, here are a few I've made this morning.

Please be nice, this is actually my first time I have attempted to make these.

More ball humor.

Oldie but goodie.

This one needs work...

I wonder if Nancy can convince Trump to resign. She has the magic.

[quote]There’s no way this shutdown can last even 10 more days.

White House acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney has pressed agency leaders to provide him with a list of the highest-impact programs that will be jeopardized if the shutdown continues into March and April.

R122 I believee that is purely a feint

See I want the Democrats to release hard data instead of Mulvaney getting his list. Hard fucking data. Because Mulvaney and the rest of that cabal are really looking at their lists from department to department to see what can be permanently eliminated and what can be privatized permanently. This shutdown is part of a larger strategy to dismantle our government. It's a goal the Extreme Right and the Kochs have been working towards for years. Starving government with ridiculous tax cuts was step one. And just wait until Medicare and Social Security are affected. Of course when our economy is slowing down that will definitely affect Social Security. These are rotten fuckers. We need to go after the Senate and McConnell right now and demand a real vote.

I hope you're right R123.

R114, you may think it has little impact but even seeing your homemade memes here on DL gives me hope. It makes me feel like, YEAH, stick it to the bastards. Every bit of fucking pissed-off resistance helps. EVERY bit. I love the idea of you trolling Trumpster Facebook acquaintances. You should go into r/politics on Reddit and do it there too (full of Trump apologists).

You're sweet, R126

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>>>>>

OK...enough of these.

I'm willing to be Donald knows what it feels like to be impotent -- but to have the world know?

I really like R127!

[quote]Former WH aide Cliff Sims' new book says Kellyanne is a leaker.

How much would it cost for plastic slipcovers on the sofas in the Oval Office?

Hypothetically, of course.

Trump accused Comey of being a “leaker”, as if it were as bad as a President who’s a grifter. Everyone in DC who writes a book, which is most everyone of importance, is a leaker. It’s legal, as long as it’s not classified.

Ugh, it just occurred to me, Trump will have someone ghostwrite a book for him.

Don't worry about it Mother Pence at r133, because when THIS administration goes down, so will your hubby and you. You will not be deciding on the White House decor anytime soon.

R85, you KNOW she avoids the mirror, unless it's a lie-teller like a carnival mirror.

Oh my

raise your hand if you have learned far more about politics than you knew before Trump became President or far more than you ever wanted to know. If nothing else he sure has instructed us.

The new image of American white supremacy is an inbred little snot in a red hat trying to annoy a Native American. That is fucking losing, folks.

Increased civil engagement and knowledge are some of the good things to come out of the ShitShow. Comedy is another.

"Someday, kids, you could be president" used to mean something.

I think another good thing is that many more people are helping other people. I am constantly surprised at how many keep stepping forward.

[quote]Are all these treason threads the same obsessed OP?

Obsessed would probably be needing to write that in every thread. You seem bothered AND obsessed.

You might want to get some help for that.

Rupert Murdoch's Fox News has gotten more extreme with propaganda. A few there such as Sheppard Smith, Chris Wallace, and Judge Napolitano, have indicated this appeal to the far- right with Trumpian allegiance using distorted facts, is problematic.

Also, one of Cohen's few 'clients' was Sean Hannity. Some of that intimidation effort on Cohen may directly relate to that.

I wonder how much was really there re: intimidation on Cohen. Was it just the comment about his father-in-law? Some pundit was saying if that was what he was referring to there wouldn't be much of a case for anyone to claim obstruction or witness tampering.

Was it all just to get out of testifying at all? The same pundits were saying it's now unlikely he'll reschedule and instead just go straight to prison.

Oh, Miss Senatrice, honey

R145 Congress Oversight Committee is likely to subpoena Cohen.

Is it just me, or is Graham looking particularly washed out, under stress and downright ill? The bags, the complexion, even the basset hound jowls have all deepened and worsened over these last few weeks. Turkey takes its toll, but this looks terminal.

Cumnings should haul Cohen’s ass in there tomorrow

The Ped stuff rumored about Graham sounds way more likely than a gay vid.

Interesting. Didn't see this mentioned here.

Vermin of a feather stick together.

More like the tied together tails of a Rat King, R152.

Lindz looks under major stress due to Kompromat, perceived by a growing number.

He will not hold up at this pace and his exhausting efforts to appease. It is obvious he's made profound contradictions, and has pushed some stances and policies in which he feels very conflicted.

His fall from this mess will not be pretty.

Perhaps he'll be allowed to crawl away, R154, back under the rock of electoral obscurity, the treasonous little shit.

[quote]This shutdown is part of a larger strategy to dismantle our government. It's a goal the Extreme Right and the Kochs have been working towards for years. Starving government with ridiculous tax cuts was step one.

R124 is correct.

Only they've been doing it since the first working day of this administration. I think the public is onto this bullshit and wants this crap over with. I saw a lot of Kentucky shirts in the crowd at that protest in front of the Turtle's office.

I don't want Lindsey to slip away. I want himself and Mitch to have prominent falls from grace.

Yep, Cohen’s been subpoenad, he’ll testify by mid February,

R159, do you have a link?

Not R159 but here you go

Thanks

R135 ?

I’m with r35 +

Suck it r25

Republican Senator Cory Gardner will join with Republicans Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski to break with the President and vote for a bill to reopen government without an idiotic border wall.

Now it's up to others to join!

Wait, Cohen was subpoenad by the Senate not the House.. so what does that mean?

It means the Senate Republicans want to frame the conversation.

Thats what I was thinking, R167.

I still don't trust Cohen and wonder if the whole thing was to either avoid it all together or allow the Repubs to get to him first.

Totally agree with r124 rethugs are hoping to shrink govt. by forcing people to quit and find paying work - - pieces of Pooh. Has anyone noticed that The senatrice looks rough and has stopped coloring her hair... hmm

Donny deutsch has been active on msnbc as Cohens mouthpiece lately- does the general public know that he has been dating trumps ex Marla Maples?

[quote]The senatrice looks rough and has stopped coloring her hair.

Does this mean the senate salon de beauté is shut down?

It’s time for the House to subpoena Cohen, then!

Trump was devoid of Cheeto orange dust yesterday too r172 so maybe?

R173 House should subpoena Cohen for the day of the canceled SOTU! Cuz his testimony will really reveal the corrupt SOTU!

That would be perfect.

With the threats against Cohen’s family members, Giuliani, on behalf of his client, is engaged in blatant witness obstruction/witness tampering.

At a bare [italic] minimum, [/italic] someone ought to file a grievance against Giuliani with the New York State Bar Association.

Let them tell the public whether this is acceptable conduct for NY attorneys.

This ^. That would be the most simple way to address Rudy’s behavior, bring him up for disbarment. Clean and simple.

The Senate Intel Committee may interview Cohen in closed session, or at least part of it. While the Republicans are the majority, there are some good members on that Committee, and they have long been working together systematically, and don't display disturbing conflicts before the media and public.

The House Oversight and Judiciary Committees can still subpoena Cohen. They may want to do so soon, because Cohen is due to report to prison during March, 2019. While the House Democrats have the majority on these committees, there is Devin Nunes and his cohorts on the House Judiciary Committee that will STILL report and coordinate with Trump throughout the process.

In a closed Senate Intel session, Senators will not be playing for the camera, and will feel less need to show partisanship. That may extract more details from Cohen, and probing questions will get asked and have him on record. I don't view the Senate Intel Committee going first as problematic. That's certainly better than a no-show.

Why must be subpoenaed prior to beginning his prison sentence?

Don't prisoners regularly attend court for hearings etc? How is this different?

Committee members include Kamala Harris and Dianne Feinstein. Seven Repukes, 6 Democrats.

R179 What information could the Senate get from Cohen that Mueller hasn't? The whole point of a House public hearing is to reveal all the dirt to the public directly straight from the horse's mouth, and essentially sidestep the issue of DOJ trying to conceal the result of Mueller's investigation.

Miz Lindz needs a makeover.

The purpose of the Dem House public hearing with Cohen is to do maximum damage to Trump. What the Republican Senate does is as always go through the motion to excuse and exonerate Trump.

They're doing more harm than help, I'd think.

R180, It can be done to subpoena individuals in federal prison. It's another layer of bureaucracy to deal with it. The federal Bureau of Prisons will have clear it administratively to transport him from wherever he is placed. A Democratic Senator on the Committee was saying today it can be done, but is more complicated. Locked-up, the feds own him for the time.

It was just announced on MSNBC that the Intel Committee will pursue an OPEN hearing with Cohen.

^Senate

Yes. fue to his pleas, the Senators now know (as does the public) that he’s lied to Congress.

That’s one thing the Senate Intel Committee will want to address.

R187 OPEN and REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED hearing! Meaning the purpose is to discredit Cohen. Don't for one minute equate the McConnell's Senate with Pelosi's House. The Republicans are all corrupt by default, while the Dems are actually fighting that corruption.

This is Team Trump switching the House public hearing of Cohen to a Senate public lynching of Cohen. Not the same thing, though the complicit media will tell you they are.

There Democrats on the committee too

Who are the three Senators not voting in a 5O-47 vote per the first vote concerning the shutdown today? Regardless of party, all their cushy asses need to be there and go on record,

R192 They don't control the proceedings and the narrative. And just watch the media pick up on the Republican's anti-Cohen narrative. Haven't we learned anything with Kavanaugh? The Senate is a corrupt chamber under Moscow McConnell, who has been a Russian stooge way longer than Trump.

John Cornyn, Tom Cotton, and Roy Blunt are big Trumpians. The Dems have some good people on the Senate Intel Committee.

R195 Good people who act like they are powerless to do anything against McConnell and his ilk are pretty useless at this point.

Mitch has been busy laying eggs. Give her a break.

R197 Time for turtle soup.

Finding someone that can beat Linsey Graham in SC will be very difficult. A few are considering it.

Lindsey fears most primary challengers. But Lindsey has mounted a massive campaign warchest. Among big contributors from special interests, Russian oligarch money found a way into his PAC big-time.

Fox, Graham, Republicans, etc. are obsessed over Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez.

Pardon the Fox link. It shows what they are focused on.

They are doing this rather than trying to re-open the government shut-down.

Gotta get a new woman to vilify. Hillary, Nancy and Maxine aren't going to live forever.

Yeesh. 39.5% approval. Not a new low, but damn low.

It shouldn’t even be at 1%. Ludicrous.

Lindsey looks high in that picture @ r200. Has she been sniffing something other than her smelling salts (or the nether regions of her legion of gentlemen callers)?

I wouldn't be surprised if the attacking of ACO was more calculated than that. By attacking her they prop her up and feed into her head, making her feel more important than she is, as well as her supporters in an attempt to splinter Democrats even further.

[quote]Gotta get a new woman to vilify. Hillary, Nancy and Maxine aren't going to live forever.

I'm surprised they don't start attacking Chelsea already.

Once the economy hits the skids, thanks once again to repugs, his approval will be low 30's/upper 20's. Yes, too high, but that amount of citizens are hard core idiots and will never admit they were snookered.

I did say, in my last update clarifying about La Senatrice, that the dick was young. I am not going to say underage but what she told me, after the spit roasting comment, was the dick was young "depending on what state the sex act happened in."

Damn. I should have moved to South Carolina!

Wilbur Ross says government employees should just get loans

So the FL Sec of State had to resign due to a black face photo pretending to be a Katrina victim. WHAT A SHOCKER!

repugs are almost all vile sociopaths. I would almost wager well over 90% of elected repugs are legit sociopaths.

Maybe from the Bank of Cyprus?

r208 repugs sure are inching ever so close to just saying, "Let them eat cake."

I'm sure a nice Russian oligarch will lend them money as they do so many conservatives.

The Govt Shutdown- Making Russia happy again!

I keep waiting for someone to unironically say, "Let them eat cake."

Someone should keep replaying Ross' comments over and over to Deplorables who aren't getting paid. He sounds exactly as callous as you would expect.

"Big deal. They should just take loans. Who cares if they have they have pay interest?"

Also, Laura Drumpf made comments that those impacted by not receiving a check need to think of the bigger picture and that they're suffering isn't singular and that it's for the greater good of getting the wall. Basically telling them that yes, it IS Drumpf's fault for the shutdown and that the workers ARE in fact useless pawns they don't care about.

Miz Lindz seems to blush and get gleeful when talking about Kava'naughty. The two together are her adapted Twitter account pic. It is a noticeable, enlarged pic in her office. This fixation is quite odd, and the confirmation was concluded four months ago.

You don't suppose.........

Lindsey looks very bad lately...Like she doesn't sleep, and she's spent an inordinate amount of time on her fainting couch. I think she must have far worse secret besides barely legal dick. She, no doubt, accepted dirty Russian money, but I can't help but wonder about other lurid sex acts. Her orange DICKtator, by way of the Russians, must have some interesting still images and video starring the Senatrice. She is committing political/career suicide by supporting Trumpinski...I wouldn't be at all surprised if she committed actual suicide once her closet full of secrets is opened .

r215 She is assuring her secrets never come out by her sudden, drastic change in behavior. They allow her to criticize every now and again to keep up appearances but she is full on crazy now. She should know Russia will never stop making her do crazy shit now.

I find AOC likeable. I don't agree with several of her stated political views, and needs to become more seasoned with the operational functions of Congress; but she flings back the shit tossed her by her critics and can do so humorously and piercingly. Then, she reacts as if it doesn't bother her. We need someone like that in Congress.

I'd recommend to her to expend her attacks on Republicans, and not get into open disputes with fellow Democrats when such is not necessary.

r217 I do like her abilities to give it back to them with finesse but I am keeping an eye on her.

[Quote] We need someone like that in Congress.

Who wants to bet this guy was one of our resident Pelosi-Haters, nonstop ranting about Nancy's age and "OFF THE TABLE!"?

Ayanna Pressley the new Congresswoman from Massachusetts who was also placed on the Oversight Committee won my heart forever by tweeting this.

I will be you niteit asshole. And I will win troll.

nitwit^

and bet

[quote]And I will win troll.

I’m not the troll, but as a rule of thumb, if you’re arguing with a troll, you’ve already lost.

Well, maybe R224, assuming you are not R219. It's the guy trying to perpetuate the Pelosi-AOC conflict.

R219 Pelosi was not mentioned in my post. I was referencing AOC. You made a false assumption with zero basis. You chose to try to generate a flawed connection and I called you out on it. I am a regular poster and have few posts on Pelosi, and they are fundamentally very positive. Again, I'll take the bet. Place your wager. Rubles, Alt-right dollars, what you offering?

It's quite clear that trolls try to establish negative buzz around AOC hoping it will stick and people will see her in a negative way by default.

More on the Florida secretary of state's resignation. He not only did blackface but he did it in drag.

What idiot does that?

R220 Her tweet was perfection!

This passionate, stunning rebuke of that piece of shit Ted Cruz and the very idea of a medieval border wall is truly a thing of beauty.

Very cool r230.

I will pass it around.

The pilots and air traffic controller's unions are on the verge of a nationwide strike.

Which as you can imagine would shut down flights worldwide.

They're gonna re-open the fucking government in 35 minutes if that happens.

Chaos Theory.....

They're drafting an "Emergency" and requesting 7 Billion.

Isn't that illegal, R232?

R235: so's forcing people to work without pay, a/k/a "slavery".

Someone was talking about Air Traffic Controllers and how stressful (and obviously dangerous) of a job it is and they had a great point:

You really do NOT want them having to work a shift driving Uber or whatever right before they clock in to direct your planes.

Thirty-five days too long for this shit.

Now here’s a bill we should all support. I am actually in DC for work at the moment and a speaker this morning brought it up. I’m surprised no one on DL brought it up.

Yes!! This is what Crazy holding the budget and people hostage over this shit! This should be a litmus test! ^^^

R239 I thought we talked about it in the prior thread?

Apologies if I missed it R241. I know we discussed the concept before, but I didn’t think we’d discussed the actual bill that Senator Warner just introduced this Tuesday.

I think maybe just the article about it was posted and maybe a few comments about it, R242, but we definitely didn't have a full discussion about it.

I was listening to Progressive Radio earlier and they mentioned how because of the shutdown the FBI has not been able to hire/process interns. The interns are the ones primarily responsible for properly filling out necessary paperwork, etc and because they don't have the necessary interns it is slowing everything down - most likely also impacting the investigations into him.

R244 how do you get progressive radio?

Sirius XM, R245.

Thanks, r245! Now to see if I can piggy back on my sister’s subscription.... never had a need before.

^ hah thanks r246!

That dumb fuck thinks if he declares an emergency, he can give the STOU.

I would bet money on it.

Pelosi needs to break her foot off in his ass. Again.

Which one of you is saying MSNBC's Matt Miller?

Trump is open to idea of a “prorated down payment” on the Wall. “I think people will agree that you need, you need the Wall.” He said.

I’m a people. I don’t agree with this. And I wish Trump and his minions would stop trying to speak for me.

Larry Kudlow call this a glitch. Well, I’m sure it’s a strong glitch.

*dating

There is no wall.

There was never going to be a wall.

There was never a desire by Trump or any of his minions for a wall.

THIS SHUTDOWN IS FOR PUTIN.

TRUMP AND MCCONNELL WORK FOR VLADIMIR PUTIN.

VLADIMIR PUTIN SHUT DOWN OUR GOVERNMENT.

[quote] Trump is open to idea of a “prorated down payment” on the Wall. “I think people will agree that you need, you need the Wall.” He said.

Pelosi should pass the same exact bill as the last one but add $1 for the wall.

R247 this is the channel.

Overall they have great hosts. I love Michaelangelo Signorile, Stephanie Miller, Dean Obeidallah, Signal Boost and Mark Thompson. Thom Hartmann is okay but he loves Bernie a little too much for my taste.

Thanks r258

"America was built on the backs of slaves!"

Smithsonian security guard Faye Smith was adorable on Lawrence O'Donnell tonight.

"Miss Nancy isn't giving you that wall."

If someone self-immolates because he/she has suffered a huge tragedy because of Trump's shutdown, and if the media cover it, Trump is DONE.

Lawrence almost cried right at the end tonight.

Why? Can you please explain for those of us who didn’t see it?

A few choice comments on the U-T video of Sen. Bennet that I know DL will appreciate:

[quote]Wow. Michael Bennet getting more medieval on Ted Cruz's @ss then a concrete border wall.

[quote]If Trump had another opportunity to service Putin like he did in Helsinki maybe Putin would pay for the wall.

[quote]Ted Cruz aka Trumps butt plug 😭

[quote]Both Mitch the turtle 😂 and Ted the croc are puppets of the Shithouse 💩💩💩💩💩🤣

[quote]Cruz went home and cried

[quote]Ted Cruz is holding that beard against its will.

R261 LOVED Faye Smith. I'd say she was the love child of Butterfly McQueen and Edith Massey.... But I mean that in a good way!

....

[quote]LOVED Faye Smith. I'd say she was the love child of Butterfly McQueen and Edith Massey....

With perhaps a soupçon of Miss Tiffany Pollard

Roger Stone has been arrested!

Roger Stone indicted! This morning in Florida.

NEW: Special Counsel's statement on arrest of Roger Stone:

OMG! You can't do this! I might get raped... nevermind.

It’s going to be a GREAT DAY!

Will they be scrapping that Nixon tattoo off Stone's back?

The old swinger will be getting humped to the sound of 'Jail House Rock'.

OMG there's video on CNN.

Door-pounding. Shouting.

"Open the door! FBI warrant!"

Mueller's early Friday morning surprise.

Good timing.

While in Turkey, you don't suppose Miz Linz wandered into the Saudi Arabian embassy and accidentally happened to be shown a bone saw.

Looks like we got another witch, boys!

Lindsey, new Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee, has no time for witchhunts. She's busy investigating again, for the fifthteenth time, Hillary's Emails, Benghazi, and the horror of FISA warrants on adorable Carter Page.

Watching Sen. Bennet interviewed now on Morning Joe.

Pity he's not in the news more often, he's very well spoken and comes across as very authentic.

With the Roger Stone news, this momentous story from last night is getting pushed aside:

Jared Kushner's application for a top secret clearance was rejected by two career White House security specialists after an FBI background check raised concerns about potential foreign influence on him — but their supervisor overruled the recommendation and approved the clearance.

After Kline overruled the White House security specialists and recommended Kushner for a top secret clearance, Kushner's file then went to the CIA for a ruling on SCI.

After reviewing the file, CIA officers who make clearance decisions balked, two of the people familiar with the matter said. One called over to the White House security division, wondering how Kushner got even a top secret clearance, the sources said. Top secret information is defined as material that would cause "exceptionally grave damage" to national security if disclosed to adversaries.

Carl Kline, the Pentagon employee who overruled WH security specialists in Kushner's case, when on to overrule career bureaucrats at least 30 times, granting top secret clearances to officials in the Executive Office of the President or the White House after adjudicators working for him recommended against doing so.

Why can't they investigate McConnell and Lindsay...and over in the house, investigate the lowlife Nunes.

Stone is such a sleezie dirty trickster, can no one sue him for all his lies?

Yes I like him, he seems to know what he is doing. I am glad he tore Cruz a new one.

Spectrum refuses to let me watch CNN this morning so I didn't see the arrest.

I have a spring in my step this morning!

I was glad that they went to his house to arrest him. I hope they broke a few ribs.

Sounds like they made it as dramatic as possible. Flashing lights without sirens, heavily armed FBI agents all over the lawn.

The FBI aren’t getting paid, are they? They must have enjoyed bringing down a Trumper for free.

Just read that they arrested the fucker. Yes!

We need some state charged against Stone as well so he can't be pardoned.

Now, will Stone go all-Cohen and reverse his claim that he would never sell out the nominal president? I imagine Mueller has cards up his sleeve that will forced Stone's hand. So giddy!

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Smug fucker finally gets it!

What did Trump tweet about Roger?

Nixon got away with it. (The 'Ford Administration' was the [italic]continuation[italic]of the Nixon Administration, without Nixon).

Reagan got away with his criminality.

George H. W. Bush got away with his crimes.

George W. Bush got away with his crimes.

Donald Trump will [bold]NOT[bold] get away with his crimes.

The [bold]age of impunity[bold] is over!!

Corrected version:

Nixon got away with it. (The 'Ford Administration' was the continuation of - the Nixon Administration, without Nixon).

Reagan got away with his criminality.

George H. W. Bush got away with his crimes.

George W. Bush got away with his crimes.

Donald Trump will [bold] NOT [bold] get away with his crimes.

The [bold] age of impunity [bold] is over!!

Sarah Sanders just said the charges against Roger Stone “have nothing to do with” Trump or the White House.

Amazing how quickly they threw him under the bus, isn’t it? But how can they think that’s going to stick when the charges are all about how he broke the law to help Trump?

Junior Mint better be next.

The FBI used a *SWAT* team to support their agents at Roger Stone's arrest! WTF!

Nowhere to run to, baby, nowhere to hide.

The arrest video is on CNN

[quote[The FBI used a *SWAT* team to support their agents at Roger Stone's arrest!

Not to mention they were all unpaid agents due to the government shutdown.

And here I thought the government workers who were showing up to work without pay were doing it out of loyalty to 46minus1!

How long until Stone flips on Bannon, Kushner, Kellyanne and TRUMP!?

[quote] The FBI used a *SWAT* team to support their agents at Roger Stone's arrest! WTF!

Intimidation, and because it rewards cooperative newsmen

The arrest of Roger Stone is one hell of a Friday event. I wonder if some officials do blame Trump for the shut-down after all and no longer entertain the "both sides" rethoric? Interesting optics, indeed.

They just can't go for Junior Mint. He will be protected by being held tightly against 'Big Mama' Guilfoyle's warm, encompassing, and perky bosom.

Haha, R309.

I never knew Gavin Newsom and Nancy Pelosi are related by marriage.

Roger, if you have financial difficulties, I suggest a bridge loan.

I am so glad they arrested this liar at 6am. All of the charges seem related to perjury/lying. Anything about what he did to procure the WikiLeaks info? I am assuming that is illegal, too.

If it was the late 50s or early 60s, Jack Bailey would have known exactly what to do for Miz Lindzey. Ask any eldergay or elderlez.

[quote]Sarah Sanders just said the charges against Roger Stone “have nothing to do with” Trump or the White House.

Uh huh. Odd then that per a post in the 'Stone Arrested!' thread, Trump is tweeting like a monkey hurling its shit around the cage: Witch hunt, No collusion, Who alerted CNN? He seems somewhat invested.

Is Trumplicia hiding in the Executive residence?

Is Trump tweeting?

Matthew Yglesias:

When it’s all out, the GOP point of view on this is going to be that collaborating with the Russians to win the election is good because got a corporate tax cut and put a bunch of anti-regulation fanatics on the bench, and that all the relevant parties deserve pardons.

Stone indicted, soooooooooooo overdue. Just wish we got a peep walk, but I’ll take it.

Sorry in last post, my DL didn’t refresh, I see you’re all over Stone!

Just the usual blah blah blah about witch hunts and no collusion, R316. Also, he is upset that "Border Coyotes, Drug Dealers and Human Traffickers" don't have their arrests filmed for CNN.

OP, is Stone Cold Treason back in the queue?

Good play, CNN, filming the arrest in the early morning hours. Pisses off Bone Spurs.

I truly relish that FBI are working under these conditions with the shutdown, but they fucking BROUGHT IT with Stone’s arrest today. Such a fabulous way to have my morning coffee, I’ve watched it twice already. And that fat harridan Huckabeast will never own anything, even if and when she’s arrested. She’s a dumb fat bitch.

Please post the Stone arrest all over your SM. I would consider it a personal favor.

Oh thank god the government's going to open temporarily.

Preview of Miss Lindzay modeling her Valentine's Day attire. She's doing excessive airbrushing though. She ain't that slim! She is loved just as she is.

Will there be a Valentine's dinner at Mar-a-Lago and Kavie will just happen to be there?

Malcolm Nance

The only thing they could have done better is to have him come out, lay down on the pavement, and cuff him right there on the ground, with maybe a hot female or black agent straddling him and manhandling him. And THEN, they should have roughed him up, letting his head get bonked when they put him in the car. Remember, Trump ASKED agents to do that, so it’s OKAY to touch them up now.

Why on earth would you want to give Roger Stone a hardon r327?

[quote]The only thing they could have done better is to have him come out, lay down on the pavement, and cuff him right there on the ground, with maybe a hot female or black agent straddling him and manhandling him. And THEN, they should have roughed him up, letting his head get bonked when they put him in the car. Remember, Trump ASKED agents to do that, so it’s OKAY to touch them up now.

Better they didn't. He would have enjoyed it.

Dana Bash proves again that she is an idiot.

[quote]“This is probably ... the last indictment, the last major shoe to drop that everybody was waiting for on the legal front before we potentially see this Mueller report or the Mueller report is completed,” @DanaBashCNN says after Roger Stone indicted.

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R330 - Dana Bash knows about as much as any reporter - Nothing.

Mueller's team is NOT leaking.

God what a fool Stone is.

And Dana Bash needs to STFU!

It was Nixon's favorite and famous pose r332.

R332, he's just imitating his hero, Nixon. And, he's as stupid as all fuck because that image is something even the dumbest deplorables will recognize as used by a damn crook. Hope Trump throws it next.

Maybe if one of his "grandsons" was doing it, r328.

Lmao I did indeed think of that r328, but I decided him getting a boner wasn’t as important as the nation seeing his humiliation. Rough his ass up with one of the people he hates on, it’s sweet.

R333: WTF did Jeremy see in Dana? She's ugly AND dumb.

[quote] “Public disapproval of Trump swells”

There is a big difference between “spin”, and “lying”. The Trumps, and Fox, go way over the line. They’re just plain dishonest.

Spin is putting your best foot forward. I’ve done that in interviews. But you never lie in an interview. I’ve had interviewees who put technology on their resume that they knew nothing about. Maybe they heard about it. They embarrassed themselves when asked about it. You should have a story about everything on your resume, especially when you’re more experienced.

I don’t know why Fox and Trump get away with it. When you lie,your reputation does die, as far as I’m concerned.

So, apparently, they’ve reached an agreement to end the shutdown with a CR that includes zero wall funding. How is Trump going to sign that? Won’t Fox News go fucking nuclear?

Get a load of Evita Stone at R332.

R343, I don’t want to link it, but I read FoxNews just now and they said this represents a failure for him. But that comment is buried in the article. The best part is the comments....

Trump just Signed the order/bill and said employees will get back-pay “very quickly”. How does he know? He actually doesn’t. That is a go-to word for him, along with “special”, to assure people that things are happening. I HATE the way he says it. Plus, it’s just empty talk.

I think I was the one who asked what was going on with the Stone indictment a few days ago so just in case....

What's going on with the Jr. Mint indictments?

Free Republic is currently in high-alert meltdown mode. They are not happy with this.

God, I fucking LOVE Felony Fridays!

And it couldn't happen at a better time. That fat traitor is getting his orange ass kicked all over town. He wants to fly to MAGAt lardass and golf. Boo fucking hoo.

Make him stay in DC.

And pelosi won't give him the STOU until he cleans his fucking room. So he can forget that.

So it will be the Ides of February when we have a national emergency? Please God a massive stroke strikes him down first.

Do tell, r348!

I find it really odd that he's just basically handed two victories in a row to Pelosi. Part of me wonders if this is some sort of strategy and not to get too excited but then I remember who we're talking about.

Let’s ponder that r352. I heard reports that he’s telling people that becoming President was a mistake. He’s giving her victories. Is he giving up? I say yes.

I just heard something really strange. I was listening to Progress Radio and Thom Hartman was on. I mentioned earlier that I don't really like listening to him because he's too much of a Bernie fan (in fact he had him on the show today).

Anyway, he basically just said that he believes with everything that has gone on either Hillary's camp, or even just a citizen, could file fraud charges against the Trump campaign and take it to the Supreme Court and if fraud is proven, the suit could demand that Dotard and Pence both be removed from office and that Nancy, or even Hillary (as the victim of the fraud) be put into office. Thom claimed that he has brought this up with several legal scholars and no one could deny that this could not happen as there's no legal precedence.

I don't know if I agree or believe that BUT what I found interesting was that he was even talking about this because 1) I haven't heard anyone willing to bring this up before (away from DL and other message boards. 2) I've always taken from Thom that he really dislikes Hillary and 3) He literally had Bernie on the show five minutes before he said this.

Screaming headline in DM: TRUMP CAVES ON WALL

And the walls, come crumbling down, come tumbling, tumbling, tumbling down ...

I agree that citizens can be doing many things to fight back instead of waiting for Mueller. His investigation is one tool in the belt, but we need others.

His idea is worth a shot.

But otherwise people need to stop acting like they have to take whatever shit is handed to them. This goes for corporations as well. So much power of these people is because average citizens don't fight back.

R357, if we’re smart, NOW we come at them in a multi-pronged approach. They are stumbling, they are weakened. Strike now, before the tides change again.

[quote]Do tell,

Ask, and it shall be given you.

Dana Bash was fawning to Rudy Giuliani' when she interviewed him. I am not a fan of her.

Hope Dana Bash is completely wrong. Junior Mint lied to Congress. He lied about the meeting with the Russians in Trump Tower. Jared did some sleazy stuff. DJT blatantly was blatantly obstructing.

If Mueller gives the 'family' a pass, that is not justice. A hand-slapping report won't cut it.

Stone arrested. Trump caves. What a wonderful day.

Do we think Bannon is about to be indicted too? He was working with Stone to get info on the Wikileaks dump

I think the people closest to Trump for the longest time are coming last in the indictments. Stone's indictment means Mueller is narrowing the gap. So Donald Trump Jr., and Jared Kushner are going to be at the tail end because they'll be the ones Trump is most likely to try to pardon.

Mueller is working his way up the ladder, getting each indicted figure to flip on the next one above. Today's indictment references "senior campaign" officials "directing" Stone to contact WikiLeaks for dirt on Hillary. So next Stone will rat those officials out (Jared, Don Jr, Bannon), who in turn will be indicted and turn on Trump Sr.

and still no indictment on collusion with Russia

R357 I have often questioned that myself and may have posted something here but can't recall.

Why don't you start your own thread and see if it picks up steam?

^^sorry, I think that was meant for R354.

If I wasn't so incompetent on my laptop, I'd create the thread myself.

I hope Trump will not get away with his crimes but...

Trump declares That “WE HAVE CHOICE” (we actually do) but to “build a POWERFUL wall” (what does that even mean?) or he will use his special powers to get it done. Like he’s in the Justice League or something.

Boris at R366.

R369 This won't stop with Roger. He's just the stepping stone to individuals at "high level in the Trump campaign" who gave him orders. Trump Jr. and Jared are next because there are simply no one else left. Trump will really blow his top when that happens. We are entering the final act.

[quote] Trump Jr. and Jared are next because there are simply no one else left.

Mother says, bless you my child! Thank you for leaving me out of this mess.

The epitaph for the Trump campaign: ""Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive!"

[quote] or he will use his special powers to get it done. Like he’s in the Justice League or something.

Trump was even more explicit when he took a single question from a reporter later Friday afternoon.

'I think we have a good chance. We’ll work with the Democrats and negotiate and if we can’t do that, then we’ll do a – obviously we’ll do the emergency because that’s what it is. It’s a national emergency,' the president said

The short-term extension would continue current-year funding for wall repairs and fencing, at a rate of $1.3 billion for the year, CNN reported.

The president has continued to hint at other actions he could try to take unilaterally, including using emergency powers to build a wall.

R373 Can you imagine Pence texting Stone using WhatsApp during the height of the campaign? Pence's crimes have more to do with his connection with Russian stooge Manafort (who selected Pence as VP in the first place) and his time in leading the Trump transition team.

Free Republic guy sez:

"1) Trump get’s a Negotiated Wall or he’ll get an Emergency Order Wall. 2) Trump gets his State of the Union Adress in the House and gets to highlight his amazing accomplishments. 3) Trump has brilliantly exposed Dems as vile hypocrites and liars. 4) Trump is leading the process of re-opening the government on his terms. He’ll end the negotiations on his terms. 5) Trump will highlight during his SOTU Adress, the disgusting liberal media’s behaviour of smearing the innocent catholic kids - the very same media that supports open borders endangering our amazing nation. 6) Trump is demonstrating leadership above partisanship, principles over pettiness and the bitter vindictiveness of Nancy Pelosi. 7) Trump is RADICALLY improving his approval rating among Mexicans, Latinos, blacks and minorities who are disproportionately impacted by illegal immigration. 8) Trump has forced the Democratic Party to turn hard left, a turn that will for decades make them less attractive in our center-right nation. 9) Trump is inspiring and educating true conservatives on how to actually fight like hell, stand on principle, deliver on campaign promises and laugh in the media’s faces. 10) Trump has accomplished all this in just 2 years, in spite of losers like Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, John McCain, and 98% of the Democrat-Media-Silicon Valley complex against him. 247 posted on 1/25/2019, 1:33:00 PM by RobaWho (I Love the U.S. Constitution, as written.)"

It's opposite-land!

Sarah’s really porking up lately. No wonder she wants to cut back on her appearances. This pic is from earlier this month.

R376 While Pence is definitely part of the Russian conspiracy, he was and probably still isn't a fully initiated member of Trump's corrupt inner circle. (i.e. He doesn't know all the Trump dirt or where all the bodies are buried.)

R379 he wasn't

In the comments on FreeRepublic someone thinks Trump is playing 8D chess! There is no sanity on the Repug side. Not even a little smidgen. Maybe the universe can help us out and suck Trump and his cabal of morons into the 8th Dimension.

[quote] R375: The president has continued to hint at other actions he could try to take unilaterally, including using emergency powers to build a wall.

The Dems must be working on this. It’s got to be a court case if he thinks he can declare an emergency when Congress refuses to fund something, when that is explicitly explained in the Constitution as Congress’ job.

Trump has a terrible habit of bluffing. I say “terrible”, because he’s awful at it, such as here. That’s how he wants to make a deal, but he’s no good at it. He’s a terrible negotiator.

Mike Pence is a pawn willing to be a pawn thinking he can outsmart everybody else because he has God on his side. He thinks that the GOP will protect him when they have to abandon Trump, but what he doesn't realize is that the GOP is in free fall, because Putin set them all up for his masterplan to create total chaos in the US. And what will create total chaos? The fall of the GOP establishment.

[quote]'I think we have a good chance. We’ll work with the Democrats and negotiate and if we can’t do that, then we’ll do a – obviously we’ll do the emergency because that’s what it is. It’s a national emergency,' the president said.

Yes, because like all true emergencies, it can wait another three weeks.

Trump and the Deplorables have accepted defeat. They know the wall is not going to happen. They know that Trump will not get it pushed through with any executive order even if right wing leaning SCOTUS is the deciding party in this epic tale.

R385 It was never about the wall. It was just the GOP's Hail Mary political theater to put the screw on the new Dem House, and make the Dems submit. But the Dems formed a stronger political wall that the Trumpies couldn't scale. This sure backfired on their faces.

Anyone who ever tries bothsiderism at this point will get the Batman slap. I saw on CNN that maybe now both sides will have incentive to negotiate and find a deal. You cannot negotiate from a standpoint of being willing to shutdown the govt. That is not how you run the govt. Ever. Give him ANYTHING he asks for that he is willing to shutdown the govt and he will do it every fucking time he (Putin)wants something.

Nancy outplayed him. He didn't "give" her any wins. She boxed his fatass in. He wanted that SOTU address sooooooo bad he caved. She played him expertly. Who didn't want her as Speaker?????????

R386 Also this is not just Trump's defeat but also McConnell's defeat as well. The media will make Trump take the fall, while McConnell slithers away in the shadows. But we know there could never have been such a long shutdown without Trump and McConnell colluding together. Pelosi beat them both.

If McConnell would have really wanted that wall he could have pushed it through when the GOP controlled both the House and the Senate.

The only thing McConnell can be blamed for is not acting when he had the chance and Deplorables have to ask themselves the uncomfortable question why he didn't push it through when he had the means when they sure as hell don't like the answer to that question.

R389 Because none of them really care about building a wall, and are only using the idea of building a wall as a dog whistle to appeal to their racist constituents.

^ r388 YES! This is Mitch McCuckell's fault as much as Dump's innate stupidity.

Both these assholes are as anti-American as one can get, if not more.

They both need to be publicly tried and convicted for treason. And then hung from the gallows, televised live by #CNN

Who says Pence hasn't already been interviewed by Mueller and has been cooperating. When the investigation first became confitmed, be was the first to lawyer-up, and picked among the best out there.

Kellyanne Conway has been cooperating and informing from the beginning. Her husband knows all these elite circles of attorneys. He's one.

confirmed^

[quote] Because none of them really care about building a wall, and are only using the idea of building a wall as a dog whistle to appeal to their racist constituents.

And the Deplorables are ok with being used and being strung along by the GOP. That should be pointed out to them all the time.

The GOP doesn't want to even come close to solving the issue since then they can't use it anymore to rile these idiots up.

Which Democratic officials has AOC attacked today?

Per her talking points deflection memo...

r394 Exactly. The repugs have never and will never want to solve a problem. They use them to win elections when they aren't cheating. They love illegal immigration. Reagan and HW gave amnesty. Cheap Labor Conservatives have lured illegals here for decades and they sure as hell don't want that to stop.

That needs to be the message going forward.

r396 exactly the motive and what happened.

If at all possible, let's keep Mitch front and center. I don't want him scheming from the shadows.

I thought the sealed indictments were for Hillary and her cabal in the Deep State.

How does she keep slipping through Mueller's noose?

All that 64th Dimensional chess that Trump is playing wears me out!

I suspect Trump will try to create an "emergency" with another caravan, or in its absence, will set up a provocation of sorts and use it as pretext for emergency powers wall.

From the Roger Stone thread:

[Quote] And FUCK Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez... the ONLY Dem to vote no on Pelosi’s bill to reopen the government.

No thanks, R368. A thread like that would probably attract nothing but the worst trolls.

Speaking of ACO and Thom Hartman he was talking about her today and he said, "I wish she were old enough to run for President today because I would make sure she did!! She is so unbelievable and she IS going to be President one day."

It makes no sense to me. She should run for President TODAY because.... ?

But this is a man who also eats out of Bernie's ass and thinks he's qualified so that tells you everything.

Nice try R395. Go play in another thread, the grown up are talking here.

AOC 's vote against the bill was largely symbolic. The bill contained funding for ICE which she is against and her constituents are mostly against. I suspect Nancy gave her permission to go off the reservation for that vote to prove her street cred with her district.

[Quote] the grown up are talking here.

Which one are the grown up?

[quote]AOC 's vote against the bill was largely symbolic. The bill contained funding for ICE which she is against and her constituents are mostly against. I suspect Nancy gave her permission to go off the reservation for that vote to prove her street cred with her district.

I don't think AOC would need or ask for permission.

R407 If she were smart, she would give a heads-up to Pelosi. You don't mess with the Speaker, who's also the most powerful person in your party right now.

It's the same with the Republican side. McConnell gave, or gives, Susan Collins permission to vote against the party line to save face when needed.

I know, R408. I stand by R407.

R409, Republicans have long stood together and fall in line. Democrats, not so much.

Pelosi will make Democrats fall in line if every single vote is needed.

Let's not go ripping democrats today. It is a time for celebration. Enjoy the weekend, put your feet up.

Fat Donnie had to bend the knee to Queen Nancy. You know he is furious and will take pot shots at her because he's too stupid to realize how dangerous she is.

He act like the rethugs won the house! Idiot.

[quote] Let's not go ripping democrats today.

Only trolls do that trying to distract from the good news about Trump caving in and Roger Stone being arrested.

What Democrats were being ripped?

Lindsey Graham was all over Fox claiming (paraphrasing) he brought the sides together, worked out the compromise, and praised Trump for his wonderful triumph and leadership. Then he renders an ultimatum to Democrats that they better support the wall.

What compromise was there again? Isn't what is laid out exactly what Democrats said they wanted?

Is Ann Coulter still scheduled to be on Bill Maher’s show tonight?

Can he just go the fuck away already?

Compromise?!?!?! It’s the exact same deal he got offered over a month ago!!! HE LOST!

Fuck that Russian stooge, Sanders.

He will get his ass handed to him during the primaries. Again.

And he will spit and scream. Again.

And he will be ignored. Again.

Spit and scream AND POINT!

Bernie in THE MOLE from Hell. Keep popping up when he's clearly not wanted. Beat it. Burn it. Bury it.

Bernie will probably keel over and croak by primary season, anyway.

We need border security against traitors.

r391, Get real. Nobody is going to be hung by the gallows in this day and age.

Life in prison will have to be good enough.

Is it by the gallows or in the gallows? I'm not fond of Victorian Lit.

From the gallows.

“From the gallows”

R428 Really?

From the gallows sounds right

I'm so glad Stone has been indicted but I find it weird Corsi wasn't indicted first or at the same time

Mueller may still be squeezing Corsi to flip on someone else. He was intimately involved in communication between the campaign and Wikileaks.

Who is left for an indictment?

Corsi. Pence. Jr., Jared, Ivanka, Ryan, McConnell, Nunes, Chaffetz, and...

One each Friday please

Maddow was questioning what difference it made who was in contact with Stone....Credico or Corsi....she didnt know what makes it significant to Mueller......Credico is just a radio commentator....Corsi ran Infowars......Infowars is part of the disinformation and propaganda campaign along with Brietbart. When Russia first became prominent in the media, it was one of the things that was discussed along with Alpha Bank and the Trump Servers....and then it fell by the wayside in this circus. Were going to have a lot of stories like that coming out....things that were mentioned early on then forgotten.

These traitors all need some Game of Thrones style “shame!” Followed by some Singapore style caning - but in public and on pay per view.

Oh man, Bernie's running again? More politically activated bros, who'll vote Trump when Bernie doesn't get the nomination. Fucking hell.

Advice to Dems: Don't let Bernie in! Dig up his dirt and destroy him!

R436, could you kindly add Sean Hannity to your list? Hope against hope, but I really think he’s in the thick of all this and Cohen or Corsi or Stone will spill on him. I would be delighted to see his perp walk.

Yes, Hannity and Bannon.

I agree with R441. Bernie's got to be destroyed early, before he can gain any sort of a following again.

I don't know why Democrats didn't institute a rule that you had to be a registered Democrat for at least 10 years.

Rebekah Mercer

Bernie will promise all kinds of FREE shit again paid by Wall Street.

And fools believe it.

R443 unfortunately I heard on a show today (forget which one) that Bannon was told by a source he's not a target

Was the source Ghouliani, R448?

Every time I see a picture of (the spitting, screaming, and red-faced pointing) Bernie Sanders, The Doobie Brothers’ song “What a Fool Believes” instantly starts playing in my head.

Theyre not going to tell you that youre a target until theyre ready to arrest you. Why would they give you notice to cover your tracks ?

I heard Stone say he's going to plead not guilty and he will be exonerated! He was also bitching that they raided him when if they would have just called he would have happily gone down and turned himself over.

hahaha. Yeah right, the fuck would have fled as soon as he could. Lord knows why he didn't months ago.

R445 Bernie often voted with the Dems, so they assumed he was an ally and not a ideological threat, but that is exactly what he was. Hillary probably thought by beating him in the primaries, she could "co-opt" his supporters. A big mistake in retrospect. Turned out his core supporters are really cult members AKA Bernie Bros who kept harassing Dems long after the primaries.

Yeah, R453, I know. So again, it's a wonder that the Democrats haven't instituted a rule for the upcoming election.

He (Stone) says his wife is deaf. The raid terrified his 2 dogs and 3 cats.

[quote] He was also bitching that they raided him when if they would have just called he would have happily gone down and turned himself over.

The FBI may have also been looking for evidence -- so that alone would be a very good reason not to make any announcement in advance.

R455 Should have thought of that before lying.... Just like Trump, all the deplorables like to play victims.

Right, R456. Reports had it that the FBI seized his digital devices at the apartment and an office in NY, if I heard correctly.

It's bound to happen. Big hubris eventually meets a great fall. Whoever advised him on this shutdown fiasco is gonna get an earful and hopefully get fired. Hoping it's WH sociopath Stephen Miller.

R459, Jared, who can’t be fired, was heavily involved in this.

They had a warrant for Stones house and also for his apartment in NYC.

I am still convinced that most of the social media presence of Bernie Bros was created by Russian troll farms.

I fucking hate Roger Stone's smugness. Everything is a fucking joke to him. I hope there are some state charges against him so he can't be pardoned.

Weren't all of them defiant and flippant when first indicted? Now Manafort is gonna die in jail and Cohen is throwing Trump under the bus.

What would be in it for Dump to pardon Stone? Remember Cheeto never does anything for anyone other than himself. The idea that he would pardon Stone due to some kind of loyalty - even though it would do him no good politically - seems fanciful.

R465 Trump prefers accomplices who don't get caught! He's a stone cold narcissist. He saving the pardons for his own family (maybe).

Corsi needs to go to prison. But I don't think he's next. Jr.

McConnell needs to go next.

He’s disrupting government continually.

Call me a crazy douchebag, but if this brings down the GOP establishment and the shady lobby system (NRA, for example) for good then it was all worth it (the last two to three years). Because these motherfuckers are the reason what's wrong with America right now. Without them the 1% couldn't fuck the US and its people and enviroment over.

R464, yep, that's been the pattern. I think they were drunk on Power Kool-Aid, in addition to being stupid and oblivious.

The Bannon connection is fascinating to me, because early on he was such a villain, but then scurried under the floorboards away from the light--except for stirring up shit in Europe of course. I thought he might have been too clever to implicate himself, but now it seems to be a possibility.

No Bernie or Gillibrand for me. Instead, I hope Warren, Klobuchar, or Harris win the Primaries. Beto as VP would be cool. And I nominate Mueller for sainthood.

I hope Klobuchar announces she'll run.

Fox is gosh awful in spinning for Stone. I don't watch Fox News, but Fox Insider headlines and related clips appear during political topic searches. Below is an example. This Martha MacCallum show acts like news, but is just the same propaganda as may be seen with Tucker, Pirro, etc. Lindsey Graham frequently cites his appearances on the show.

Here's Fox and McCallum having Michael Caputo as the authoritative source per Stone declaring "absolutely no linkage". Yes, THAT Michael Caputo. Of course Fox won't have anyone on that could refute or challenge those assertions, point by point.

Rupert Murdoch is never held to account.

You can never trust that crazy fucker, Roger...he lies constantly, just like Trump. Mueller could not trust him.

Yes, I'm sure that will play into his defense. "He's such an inveterate liar, he can't distinguish between truth and falsehood anymore." "He truly believes the lies he says." The Manhattan Madam yesterday previewed another line of defense yesterday: "He's old and he can't remember things like he used to."

Roger Stone is age 66. He ain't that old. He's younger than Robert Mueller who appears to comprehend Stone's behavior.

I should know this, but can pathological lying be included in an insanity defense?

No way r476, and here’s why. They have dozens and dozens and dozens of examples of them hiding their behavior with their lies, which is consciousness of guilt. Sure, it’s high-risk behavior, but they clearly knew it was wrong because they tried to hide it. That’s not insanity, it’s just evil.

So, DJT's support is down to Fox/Newscorp, McConnell & cohorts, the Freedom Caucus in the House, NRA, Jared & Ivanka, Steve Miller, Alt-Right, Dana Bash types, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the Evangelicals for profit industry, Putin & the oligarchs, 'let them eat cake' cabinet members and their spouses, and of course, paid yappers, DIAMOND & SILK that are suppose to rope in the African-American electorate.

For amusement and annoyance only:

Don't forget Drudge, which someone in one of these threads pointed out is one of the most respected news sites on the web.

Drudge? Respected?

By whom? Retards who can't read?

I thought living in Ft Lauderdale was bad enough - but 117th St. - WTF?

[quote]Drudge? Respected?

[quote]By whom? Retards who can't read?

Apparently. I couldn't tell if the person was trolling or not.

It's a bit sad that a troll is trying to get validation for Druge's so called influencial power from Dataloungers in 2019.

I think that person was joking. That’s what I tell myself.

[quote] I fucking hate Roger Stone's smugness. Everything is a fucking joke to him.

That's always a very good sign of guilt. People like him usually take an "I'm not worried" attitude when they get arrested, show big smiles in their mug shots, because they delusionally think if they make it look like they're not guilty they won't be found guilty. It's not until the guilty verdict is read in court that all that bravado goes away real fast.

If they act this casual it's a clear sign that they are terrified of looking as guilty as they are.

Roger Stone's carefree attitude is a slicker version of that time Michael Cohen was hanging out with his friends and smoking cigars between court appearances. And we all saw how that turned out.

So did Trump get ANYTHING more than was in the original offer five weeks ago? Did Nancy at least throw in a set of steak knives?

No, and that must be killing him.

He got owned by a woman publicly, R488.

r479 I can't think of a respectable news source that scrubs its Twitter account empty of all statuses.

[quote] So did Trump get ANYTHING more than was in the original offer five weeks ago? Did Nancy at least throw in a set of steak knives?

He got nothing, and he weakened himself in the process. This "great negotiator" exposed himself in a way that even his ardent supporters now see that he has feet of clay. He looks like the incompetent boob that he has always been. It was foolish for many reasons to go into this with all bluster and bravado and absolutely nothing to back it up. Had anyone in the WH given this even a moment of thought, they would have realized how inevitable and predictable this outcome would be and how devastating it will become in the weeks and months ahead.

Whatever hastens his downfall is just fine.

Pelosi kicks Trump's fat ass.

Stone is 66? I thought he was in his 80s. He looks like a walking corpse who's had lots of botox and fillers.

The Art of the Deal

To Dotard:

I heard a pissed off Deplorable actually bad mouthing Bone Spurs. Their comments were basically that Bone Spurs manipulated people, was only playing games to get what he wanted and tricked people into thinking he was going to help them. They were used. And of course if Hillary hadn't been the scum she was they wouldn't have been forced to believe in him.

So this is how it might go with some folks... they'll finally get pissed off at him but take no responsibility for willingly following him and for proving themselves to be the morons that they are.

LOL cretins. Nobody forced them to believe the Orange Turd.

They willingly and gleefully believed that Hillz is "da Devil" and so they believed the narcissist who enforced that belief. Now they wanna shoot the messenger so to speak.

Well duh, Orange manipulated people BECAUSE they were ready and willing to believe the crap he was serving, or because they already believed it to the full and recognized him as one of their own.

R498 exactly. And the person didn't like my response...

"I'm so sorry you were tricked. I guess he set out to trick you because he knew you were just so easy to trick! I mean, he did say that he loved dumb people so I guess some were so dumb they didn't realize he was talking to them."

I think continually bringing up the FACT that he always said he would run as a Republican because they are dumber is a wonderful way to rub their noses in their own mess. I mean, what does that say about them lololol?!?!?? It PROVES they are dumb and that he took them.

And his inability to build a STEEL AND CONCRETE WALL across the entire SOUTHERN BORDER OF THE U.S. OF FUCKING A. is the dealbreaker?!? Do these mental deficients still believe in Santa Claus, too?

[quote]I think continually bringing up the FACT that he always said he would run as a Republican because they are dumber is a wonderful way to rub their noses in their own mess. I mean, what does that say about them lololol?!?!?? It PROVES they are dumb and that he took them.

I thought it was proven false that he ever said that?

Why does msnbc keep having this fat, sweaty idiot Sam Nunberg on their shows?

Because every time he’s on there’s an even chance he’s going to break news by admitting something new, r503. He’s an entertaining guest who is right in the center of the cultural and political zeitgeist.

It's interesting that even Ann Coulter doesn't go there to diss Trump for not "Draining The Swamp". It's all about breaking his promise to build that wall. But she's all about poor lower and middle class getting screwed by the conservative establishment on the latest episode of Bill Maher.

R481 - “I thought living in Ft Lauderdale was bad enough - but 117th St. - WTF?”

481 - Your comment is obnoxious, and ill-informed.

You obviously know very little about Ft Lauderdale and Harlem. I live in a nice mid-rise condo located a block away from Lauderdale beach. Stone lives a few miles down the road in a waterfront home.

Stone’s apartment on 117 St in Harlem is located in a high-end neighborhood, as is most of Harlem nowadays, due to considerable gentrification.

Coulter sounded like a down right ultra-liberal on Maher last night except for the racism.

It would be so satisfying if they arrested Hannity on air in the Fox studio.

I get hard just thinking about that R508.

Hillary goes OFF on Bernie supporters attacking Kamala Harris.

I forget the saying, but I think it goes, "Easier to fool someone that convince them they were fooled."

Most people don't like to admit that they were wrong (or take responsibility for their actions for that matter).

Deplorables will go "but her emails!" until their last breath. They will not say it out loud, but Trump is dead to them, because they know by now that he made fools of them.

It's too bad the media has taken to quoting Coulter again. I haf hoped she was fading away.

She's certainly taken the hot air on the wall away from Laura Ingraham. Do they coordinate who's on first?

Coulter's shtick on Maher's show is the same as what Tucker Carlson has been peddling lately, so they're trying to play faux populist. There's not a sincere bone in either of their bodies.

I'd argue there's a separate camp from deplorables, the straight-up ignorant. I was buying groceries and heard one cashier say to the other, "... that's why they wanted someone like him, who can handle money."

Thankfully, I live in D.C. where that would never happen.

In 2020 the Democrats should use the slogan "Make America Great Again - Now More than Ever!"

With regard to R354, interestingly enough I just found out that there is a precedent for doing as he suggested.

Apparently in PA there was an issue in a Senate Race where the Democratic Candidate committed fraud and the courts put the loser of the election into office because of the fraud.

[quote]The way it was supposed to work is that a Senator should have taken up one of the many objections made by House Members for the electoral vote. In the supposed interest of "peaceful transfer of power" Joe Biden shut down all debate and would not allow any Senators to allow investigations into the election to go forward in the Senate. He closed the session without hearing objections and the Electoral College voted before having all the information they needed to make sure the election was legitimate.

Ann Coultergeist was rather fetching in her low-cut shroud and snappy kitten heels last night on Bill Maher. Until she started spewing her bile which Bill did little to counter. Of course he only had her on so she could hawk her latest propaganda publication. I could only stomach a small portion of that interview.

Maher wants to fuck her - still - which is why he doesn't put much effort into countering her nonsense.

[quote] "Make America Great Again - Now More than Ever!"

*cue movie trailer voice*: This time ... it's personal!

[italic]

[bold]

2019 will be a terrible year for Trump, but a very good year for the country.

I kept thinking Stone made the (very self-conscious) Nixon victory-signs-over-the-shoulder gesture as a signal to Drupmp that he, too, is waiting for his pardon.

Why has Bone Spurs' sole pardon been for the racist asshole in AZ?

Michael Cohen said he’d never rat Trump out, and would take a bullet for him, etc. until Trump turned on him. Trump will turn on Stone as well, then all bets are off.

I remember all the talk about sealed indictments from last summer/fall, so is Stone's indictment one of those now unsealed?

I'm telling you, the day Donald turns a cold shoulder to his sons or Jared ...

Bannon in cuffs. This is the speculation I live for. It makes me giddy to think of this complete fucking POS in jail and facing time in a US prison.

Just checked....Fox News still hasn't Tweeted since November 8th.

From a good friend of mine:

Stone showed up to Floriana on 17th Street in D.C. (very gay-friendly restaurant on a notorious gay block) with a shit load of twinks a few months ago.

Stone went down hard. No one else, not even Paul Manafort, got the bum's rush. He must've really pissed off Manafort. And witness tampering!!!!! Judges don't like witness tampering....

Stone is fucked.

[quote]Stone is fucked.

He's probably excited for that.

R526 are you saying that isn't an inevitability?

No, that little bitch is not enjoying this. Roger the Smug is shitting in his little boy pants.

I, however, am enjoying this immensely. Thank you, fake news CNN for having your fake cameras at exactly the right place and time.

One of the best weekends in the Treason thread history. How many is that now? 24 little bitches? We need someone to come up with a good nursery rhyme for this one.

Stone will be in DC for arraignment on Tuesday. He says he will plead not guilty. Will the judge give him a trial date at the arraignment? I imagine it will be pretty far off, like in the summer or even next fall.

Is Stone known to be a substance abuser?

I have a feeling the hubris of this one will not afford him much leniency. We shall see.

I see where you're going, R536. And he is a flight risk...

He’s restricted to travel to FL, NY and DC, so they must have taken his passport.

Despicable

The House Intelligence Committee can't begin its work because the GOP won't name its committee members. They're stalling. It's like Merrick Garland — maybe they'll never assign members to the committee.

Mueller may indict (perhaps sealed) DJT as a co-conspirator with existing and perhaps indictments soon to come, i. e. Junior Mint, Jared, maybe a few others. As co-conspirator in indictments on the same/similar charges, DJT pardoning them would be problematic even though he could try to pardon himself first, which would ultimately be contested before the U.S. Supreme Court, and would certainly generate the impeachment endeavor if it is not already formally underway by that time. Or, Trump could offer to resign if Pence promised to pardon him and family members. Of course, that's assuming Pence, himself, escapes charges.

My belief is that AG nominee Barr will really be there to protect Pence, McConnell, and a few other members of Congress from being snared....thus not meddling with Mueller's indictments of Trump's inner circle of collaborators, but protect the broader network of House/Senate figures and a couple of Governors, whose PACs got big contributions from oligarchs tied to Putin. Barr's record is very pro-NRA, and I wouldn't dismiss that he would keep procecutors from probing deeper there.

[quote]Is Stone known to be a substance abuser?

He sure looked high AF on CNN last night.

Trump, Nunberg, Stone - they all show up on TV totally fucked up. It would almost be funny if American democracy wasn't at stake.

R539 that's such bullshit. They're such a despicable little fucks.

R543 Pelosi needs to set a deadline. If the GOP moron don't name their picks, they forfeit their places on the committee. There should be no place for GOP obstructionism in Pelosi's House.

What are the rules for committees? Can Pelosi say, you have until this time to name your members or I name them for you. This is my House and we don't play fucking turtle games here.

It is Kevin McCarthy's job (while consulting with other House leaders in his caucus) to name Republican members to Intelligence and other Committees. He stalls any longer, he will get confronted.

McCarthy should remove Nunes from the committee. He won't do it.

R546 This shows McCarthy is just another Republican clown who's more loyal to Trump than to his duties.

That same group of Republicans, i.e. Jim Jordan. Gaetz, Gohmert, Biggs, Meadows, and several others, even give McCarthy grief. They are Teaparty members and fanatically pro-Trump activists in the House. Right-wing PACs, weeks before the vote on Minority leadership, were running ads on TV touting Jim Jordon. Jordan is Lyin' Ted on steroids.

Stone is supposedly bisexual, r529.

Tell me more, R550!!!!

R551 To put it mildly, Roger Stone and Lindsey Graham don't like each other.

Stone called Graham a "fish-faced enemy of the people, a low-life scum bag".

Contact your House member and demand that the Intelligence Committee proceed without GOP members if need be.

They're literally doing a Garland. For two years?

I guess a broken watch is right at least once a day!

And Stone's comments probably made The Senatrice want to blow him even more.

R553 the problem is that without any GOP members it would just look like Democrats were making shit up - you know how the Repugs do.

There are some things that the Intelligence Committee could do without Republicans, like referring suspected cases of lying to Congress to Mueller, and giving Mueller House testimony transcripts that he's been asking for.

Stone's comments about La Senatrice came before her weird and sudden 180 last year. They're on the same page these days.

"only the best people"

People are pissed about the committee delay.

There are House rules as to what constitutes a quorum for a standing committee. McCarthy will look foolish and disruptive if he doesn't name people soon.

I don't know the rule. Maybe the DL resident former Congressional Intern will know. Or, someone wants to look up House Committee rules. I am too tired right now to bother.

[quote]There are House rules as to what constitutes a quorum for a standing committee. McCarthy will look foolish and disruptive if he doesn't name people soon.

Yeah, but he won't care. Repukes never do.

Notorious NDP can move to change the house rules. She is not bound by the Senates Constitutional role to consent to Presidential nominations.

Go on without repthugs on the committee. Seriously FUCK THEM!

Fish-faced? How mean and nasty for Stone to say such. She looks quite eloquent.

Read this on a forum tonight. Couldn’t agree more.

"The right winger meltdown clearly signals that they really thought that we could have an American dictator, and that is really really what they wanted all along. All the conservative love of our democracy and the constitution is just bullshit."

R567 I would ask how many of those are Russian trolls but sadly, a lot of stupid Deplorables are just as dumb.

I hope that the full conspiracy gets revealed -- all the way through Congress and governors offices. It would be awful to have an incomplete cancer removal, so to speak.

Don’t forget the courts, r569

Wonder if Fox is doing us all a favor. Keeping these assholes in a bubble, letting them think that people actually like them and respect them, until it's too late and the FBI shows up.

Sam Nunberg thought of Stone as a father figure/mentor, and said he would never testify against him. Then he sobered-up, literally. He recently said, that he wouldn’t be in trouble except for Stone. He seemed to feel that he was betrayed, and I’ve no doubt he was.

These people need to be rounded up.

How in their little brains are they patriots?

these assholes love to announce their intention to never turn, and then turn on a dime. They are big stupid boastful mobsters (okay Stone ain't stupid, but ...), who love to scream about how loyal and tough they are about five minutes before turning. Seriously, instead of pundits, we need actual mobsters on TV predicting how soon any of these bitches fold. They actually know about this shit.

People like those guys at R575 *should* spend some time in a totalitarian state. That would fix their wagons.

R574 and that's exactly what we have to look forward to. They're all going to end up flipping on each other.

I still maintain that no one will flip on each other more than the Drumpfs themselves. I can't wait. I also still maintain that Ivanka and Jared will both sell each other out, if they haven't already.

R578 I agree except I would bet the one too stupid to flip on anyone would be Junior Mint. He'll go on to the bitter end thinking Daddy will save him, and of course, Dear Daddy won't. Instead he'll let Junior go to prison thinking that will be the end of it all.

R575 and yet they got offended that HRC called them Deplorable.

Newsflash, she was right... just like she was right about everything else that ever came out of her damn mouth.

HRC should be president, but here's the good thing about her loss. We are now pissed and focused like we haven't been in decades. We are tired of this shit, and not just Trump, but all this shit, all these assholes who think the rich are sacred, all these assholes who think that sucking Russia's cock is totally okay, all these assholes who think that the worst thing you can do to this country is give it health care. We are pissed, and we are aware, and we are ready to take this motherfucking country back.

Exactly, r580. One of the reasons well-meaning politicians (there are a few), can't tell the whole truth, is because people get upset when they tell the truth.

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Not shocked.

So Cohen and Junior Mint both got guns without proper licensing.

You know how those lions were attacking the "hunters," hunting them?

Has Junior gone there yet?

Bajour!

R586 that would be too good for him. He needs to wear an orange jumpsuit and love every minute of the loving he gets in the big house. He'll have to learn to take it like the Senatrice.

True. I do want to see him crying while in cuffs. You know he will be.

Scott Dworking is betting Jr is next.

God, please please please.

Jr Mint in handcuffs is going to be one of those, "Where we you when..." moments.

I want a perp walk, with as many cameras filming as possible.

I know this is completely off topic, but it isn't really. A rich white guy doing the perp walk might help race relations in this country more than a thousand MLK speeches.

R593 judging from the other day, they'll be ready.

Which reminds me, how did CNN know to be there?

Can you imagine Donald trying to give a State of the Union (it's apparently back on for this Wednesday) knowing that his son's been indicted and in jail? The long-desired stroke on national TV ... it feels so attainable.

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Is he planning on doing the SOTU on Weds? Is that why he caved so he could get his little speech?

You said it, R594!

R596 don't get carried away. He doesn't care enough about Jr to have a stroke.

weirdly, the guy that ghost wrote Art of the Deal predicted exactly that, R598, that he would fold only because he really needs to give that stupid speech in that stupid chamber.

Never come between a narcissist and his audience.

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