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I don't know what put IndieWire's panties in a bunch. BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY is awesome!

This thread will allow spoilers so people can review and discuss the new Queen biopic starring Rami Malek as Freddie Mercury, directed by Bryan Singer.

Don't believe the smug Indiewire critic David Ehrlich — BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY is NOT "sanitized" and it's perfectly "honest."

It acknowledges Freddie's sexuality, which is heavier with manlove and characters who accuse him of being gay. It exposes Freddie's unflattering "edges," which Ehrlich can't decry if he wants "honesty."

It's beautifully and poignantly performed. The Mike Myers scene is HILARIOUS. And yes, the music ROCKS YOUR ASS OFF with some convincing vocal contributions from Rami Malek himself.

From what I can tell, David Ehrlich just hates the mainstream appeal of the movie and doesn't respect Queen's music to begin with. "Queen was always flamboyant, but never quite fashionable enough to go out of style," he writes.

Well, millions of fans buying dozens of gold and platinum albums and nine #1 singles disagree, and most critics like BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY, so David Ehrlich can just die of AIDS!

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by Anonymousreply 153March 9, 2019 6:28 PM

It’s a Wayne’s World vs. Bohemian Rhapsody competition!

by Anonymousreply 1November 2, 2018 8:39 AM

Spoilers?! OMG, does Freddie Mercury die or something?

by Anonymousreply 2November 2, 2018 8:57 AM

Moulin Rouge! was actually nominated for an Oscar and utilizes "The Show Must Go On" by Queen in the plot.

Flash Gordon and Highlander have Queen songs custom-made by Queen for the movies' sake.

Wayne's World and Iron Man 2 were massive hits.

But the use of Queen in Shaun of the Dead may be the most clever and unforgettable.

by Anonymousreply 3November 2, 2018 9:00 AM

Ben Hardy is totally hot:

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by Anonymousreply 4November 2, 2018 3:23 PM

Did they use stunt hair to approximate Freddy's chest thatch on the hairless Rami?

by Anonymousreply 5November 2, 2018 4:20 PM

Don't know why you single out indiewire, it only has a 48 on metacritic and a 61% on RT. Neither score is good, critics just didn't like it that much.

by Anonymousreply 6November 2, 2018 4:35 PM

Wayne's World is not better than Bohemian Rhapsody or Moulin Rouge!

by Anonymousreply 7November 2, 2018 6:40 PM

Metacritic has fewer critics, r6 and I bet you their numbers and ratings are going to climb this week as more critics weigh in.

by Anonymousreply 8November 2, 2018 6:41 PM

Yes, r5, there is stunt hair and prosthetic teeth on Rami in the movie.

by Anonymousreply 9November 2, 2018 6:42 PM

Are there any gay sex scenes with Freddie?

by Anonymousreply 10November 2, 2018 6:44 PM

I singled out Indiewire because of this misleading and pre-existing thread, r6:

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by Anonymousreply 11November 2, 2018 6:50 PM

There are scenes of half-naked Freddie walking away from half-naked dudes after sex.

There are kissing, intimacy and seduction scenes between Freddie and other males. It follows two, major boyfriends in Freddie's life and how he treated them, as well as his wife.

But there's no soft porn titillation scene, if that's what you're looking for. That's what pornos are for.

by Anonymousreply 12November 2, 2018 7:06 PM

Did anyone else see it?

by Anonymousreply 13November 2, 2018 11:11 PM

Ye, it's underwhelming. I haven't read any negative critiques that aren't true.

But I'm a total Queen fan, so iIforgave its inconsistencies and melodramatic revisions.

by Anonymousreply 14November 2, 2018 11:38 PM

[QUOTE]But there's no soft porn titillation scene, if that's what you're looking for.

PASS!

by Anonymousreply 15November 2, 2018 11:42 PM

R12 so no anal?

by Anonymousreply 16November 2, 2018 11:43 PM

Nope!

by Anonymousreply 17November 3, 2018 12:10 AM

I saw it and liked it. It doesn’t deserve the awful reviews.

by Anonymousreply 18November 3, 2018 1:59 AM

I agree, OP. Just got back from seeing it and I had a great time. Rami Malek outdid himself. It did a good job of showing how Freddie Mercury how he was able to mesmerize so many fans with his voice, because he was so loving. He was also a major pain in the ass, and loved others more than he loved himself.

by Anonymousreply 19November 3, 2018 2:05 AM

I thought it was tremendous!

by Anonymousreply 20November 3, 2018 2:11 AM

Liked it, too. It was a bit VH-1 type music but the music and acting can't be beat. My favorite scene is the montage of Freddie walking through the leather bar. Hot.

by Anonymousreply 21November 3, 2018 8:37 AM

r15 = a pig who doesn't understand what movies are about.

No wonder straight people hate us — r15 insists on cramming explicit gay sex down their throats every time.

by Anonymousreply 22November 3, 2018 5:24 PM

What's inconsistent about it, r14?

by Anonymousreply 23November 3, 2018 5:25 PM

This movie is going to be a big hit. Obviously the music will resonate. The crowd I saw it with were singing and clapping along.

Rami is fantastic.

It doesn't sanitize the queerness although it kind of tries to tiptoe over it. It's more suggestive than explicit. Freddie walking through the leather bar scene is hot.

The framing the story around Live Aid works well although i wish we did get to see Freddie's final years.

by Anonymousreply 24November 3, 2018 5:30 PM

R23, this video explains some of the most obvious fictionalized story aspects.

Several of the comments clarify Jim Hutton's actual first meetings with Freddie.

Also, they completely ignore their faux-pas of performing in South Africa during Apartheid, and how people thought it was hypocritical of them to do Live Aid afterward.

But like me, they don't care. There are plenty of documentaries online that tell the real stories.

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by Anonymousreply 25November 3, 2018 5:36 PM

[quote] This movie is going to be a big hit. Obviously the music will resonate. The crowd I saw it with were singing and clapping along.

This is why I don't go to the movies anymore. Anyone who would do that is a fucking moron.

by Anonymousreply 26November 3, 2018 5:39 PM

It's rotten tomatoe score has gone down.

by Anonymousreply 27November 3, 2018 6:14 PM

r26 I hate that too but I had an overwhelming need to "clap-clap-hands in the air" during Radio Ga Ga and WWRY.

I really liked the film and had a smile on my face through the whole thing. I didn't think it was brilliant but it was very fun. As a huge lifelong Queen fan I tried to ignore messing with the timeline and quite a few inaccuracies. My friend, who is a casual fan loved it and didn't mind inconsistencies. I plan to see it again. Rami Malek was good, but "Brian" was Brian.

As for critics panning it and the audience loving the film, it's consistent with reactions to every Queen release in the last 50 years.

by Anonymousreply 28November 3, 2018 6:16 PM

My pussy stinks.

by Anonymousreply 29November 3, 2018 6:17 PM

Yes, the media, from British tabloids to U.S. music critics, dismissed Queen for years, even as they sold out huge arenas in the 1980s.

by Anonymousreply 30November 3, 2018 6:28 PM

It's a big hit, bitches!

BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY will clear almost $100 in its first weekend worldwide, so the haters can just SUCK IT.

#2 MUSICAL OPENING OF ALL TIME!

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by Anonymousreply 31November 3, 2018 6:32 PM

If there's someone voting for FLASH GORDON in the poll who isn't trolling, please explain why you would choose such a shitshow as BEST EVER?

by Anonymousreply 32November 3, 2018 6:34 PM

The movie is straight washing homophobic garbage.

by Anonymousreply 33November 3, 2018 6:38 PM

[QUOTE]so the haters can just SUCK IT.

What an immature child you are? "Haters"?! You mean people who wanted these movie to be of higher quality...?

And bragging about successful box offices, those "Transformers" movies make lots of money too dear.

Sigh, the level of conversation on the DL keeps going downhill.

by Anonymousreply 34November 3, 2018 6:38 PM

Highlander. Not the films, but the songs themselves were amazing.

I also enjoyed the movie. Don't know why the critics hated it do much.

by Anonymousreply 35November 3, 2018 6:41 PM

R33 How so? Please explain how it was straightwashing or homophobic. I've just seen it and can't for the life of me think of an example of either.

by Anonymousreply 36November 3, 2018 6:42 PM

R33 obviously hasn't actually seen the movie.

by Anonymousreply 37November 3, 2018 6:44 PM

Who wants to live forever from the Highlander films was also a beautiful song but nothing beats Princes of the Universe.

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by Anonymousreply 38November 3, 2018 6:47 PM

My favorite part was Jenny Everett plaing Bohemian Rhapsody on. The radio for the first time with an overlay of all the bad reviews it got.

Critics are scum.

by Anonymousreply 39November 3, 2018 6:52 PM

∆ Kenny

by Anonymousreply 40November 3, 2018 6:53 PM

Kenny's sister r39?

by Anonymousreply 41November 3, 2018 6:53 PM

Yeah. This is her

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by Anonymousreply 42November 3, 2018 6:55 PM

No, it isn't, r33.

You obviously haven't seen the film.

by Anonymousreply 43November 3, 2018 8:27 PM

"It's a Kind of Magic" certainly beats "Princes of the Universe," r38, having scored the #3 spot in Britain and #42 in the U.S. Billboard 100.

"Princes" didn't even chart, whereas "It's a Kind of Magic" has become one of Queen's most catchy and beloved songs.

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by Anonymousreply 44November 3, 2018 8:34 PM

I also prefer "Gimme the Prize" and "Who Wants to Live Forever" to "Princes."

"Princes of the Universe" may be the HIGHLANDER theme song, but its lumbering fits and starts don't appeal to me like the solid, catchy grooves and consistency of the others.

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by Anonymousreply 45November 3, 2018 8:40 PM

[quote] If there's someone voting for FLASH GORDON in the poll who isn't trolling, please explain why you would choose such a shitshow as BEST EVER?

Because Queen wrote, produced and performed a perfect matching score for that film and made it a hell of a lot more fun than it might have been with another composer. One of the best examples of film and score match up in the rock genre I can think of. They should have been nominated for an Oscar for score or song score (whatever that confusing credit used to be that they dropped after Prince won an Oscar).

by Anonymousreply 46November 3, 2018 9:15 PM

R28

I can’t get over the Brian May casting. “Spot on” would be an understatement. Looks and sounds basically identical.

by Anonymousreply 47November 3, 2018 9:25 PM

A lot of reviews seem to be focused on how this us a " sanitized" version of Freddie. As opposed to the impossible BPD nutter he actually was. But if it's the story the rest of the band want to tell then let them. It's less fun to watch but his freinds are the producers and it's their choice. BPD is such a painful thing to live with I can't blame them for not dwelling on it.

by Anonymousreply 48November 3, 2018 9:38 PM

Where did they broadcast the video for “Bohemian Rhapsody” in America back in the day in 1976, Midnight Special? Don Kirschners Rock Concert? Did Queen perform it on Saturday Night Live?

by Anonymousreply 49November 3, 2018 11:26 PM

Freddie Mercury was never married. He called it a marriage but he and Mary Austin were never married. I loved the movie. Very teary.

by Anonymousreply 50November 4, 2018 12:02 AM

Was the manager such a manipulative prick in real life?

by Anonymousreply 51November 4, 2018 1:15 AM

Queen only performed on live U.S. TV on SNL, doing "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" (and another song?)

Their PR guys shipped 3/4-inch videotapes of the video of "Bohemian Rhapsody" years before anyone else did it, or MTV existed.

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by Anonymousreply 52November 4, 2018 1:26 AM

On SNL, they also performed "Under Pressure"

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by Anonymousreply 53November 4, 2018 1:28 AM

[quote]If there's someone voting for FLASH GORDON in the poll who isn't trolling, please explain why you would choose such a shitshow as BEST EVER?

This?

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by Anonymousreply 54November 4, 2018 1:39 AM

The film is great. Fuck those awful review. Rami Malek deserves an Oscar nomination

by Anonymousreply 55November 4, 2018 1:47 AM

[quote] Was the manager such a manipulative prick in real life?

I think it's a bit yes and no on that. Paul sold out Freddie to the Sun saying that Freddie's lovers were dying of AIDS but other than him being self-serving by riding on Freddie's coattails he wasn't isolating him from the his friends.

by Anonymousreply 56November 4, 2018 2:05 AM

R55, agree about the nomination. I really enjoyed the film and didn't see Mercury as sanitized, although they didn't illustrate his gay life at length either. But I didn't feel they were running away from anything.

by Anonymousreply 57November 4, 2018 2:38 AM

The movie is well done in every way. The gay stuff is handled directly and not hidden in any way. It’s actually a beautiful and inspiring movie. I hope it makes a mint and Rami wins the Oscar.

by Anonymousreply 58November 4, 2018 2:41 AM

I had no idea what artists they were. Learned something. Loved the movie.

by Anonymousreply 59November 4, 2018 3:59 AM

Curious; how old are you, R59 and where do you live?

I can't imagine my life without Queen.

by Anonymousreply 60November 4, 2018 6:00 AM

I like that the hot twin of Rami is posting here a lot about how good his brother is in the straight washed flick, how.....supportive

by Anonymousreply 61November 4, 2018 6:07 AM

I like how you're calling it straight-washed, from a months-old collection of preemptive critiques by screeching SJWs, when you haven't seen it, and even if you had, you're ignoring all the gay scenes in the movie.

Oh, wait, no I don't.

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by Anonymousreply 62November 4, 2018 6:14 AM

Straight-washed my ass. If anything they gay- washed it. Totally erasing any reference to his female lovers. Dude was bi as the day is long.

by Anonymousreply 63November 4, 2018 10:21 AM

FM was gay. End of the story. They gay washed every FUCKING aspect of his life. Shame on them!

Oh and yeah, a ton of inaccuracies. Freddie hasn’t ever done interviews, he sheltered his private life, he didn’t have an Indian accent for crying out loud, etc.

The only positive thing about this is if Singer goes down, the rest can be thrown to the BIN.

by Anonymousreply 64November 4, 2018 10:55 AM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 65November 4, 2018 11:47 AM

The other thing that is subtle is that while Mercury dominates, the movie is meant to tell the story of the band, not only the story of Freddie Mercury.

by Anonymousreply 66November 4, 2018 12:21 PM

R65 LOL! You’re wrong. Freedie wasn’t bi, he only had a very traditional and religious upbringing, it was clear he loved men, Mary explained this whole thing in great detail so it's not up for debate. And he was private about his past and rarely mentioned his Parsi heritage. Did you read Hutton’s book? Maybe that would clear things for you.

The movie straight washed the fuck of this movie. It made Freedie look like a housewife, instead of the person who really was. His sexuality wasn’t the problem and his friends/members of the band never avoided him for that. God, they were all fuckboys and drug users.

by Anonymousreply 67November 4, 2018 12:44 PM

*of the band not movie.

What people are going to see ( and obviously eat it up) is NOT the QUEEN. This movie doesn’t describe the Queen but a totally different band. Thank God, Freedie is dead and can’t see this.

by Anonymousreply 68November 4, 2018 12:47 PM

R67

“Excess is a part of my nature,” he said. “To me, dullness is a disease. I need danger and excitement. Straight people bore me stiff. I love freaky people.”

Mercury would go on to call his sex drive “enormous” and say that, “I sleep with men, women, cats — you name it. I’ll go to bed with anything! My bed is so huge, I can comfortably sleep six. I prefer my sex without any involvement.”

Sounds Bisexual to me.

Also you're crazy if you think the movie made him look straight. Did you even watch it?

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by Anonymousreply 69November 4, 2018 1:51 PM

Yes, no doubt Freddie Mercury would far prefer to be dead and nothing than alive and living with a dud film.

by Anonymousreply 70November 4, 2018 1:52 PM

^ in reply to "Thank God, Freedie is dead and can’t see this."

by Anonymousreply 71November 4, 2018 1:52 PM

I saw it last night and loved it. It's not perfect but it's a really good time.

by Anonymousreply 72November 4, 2018 1:53 PM

I'm not sure about that Barbara Valentin story. Peter Freestone and other friends all claimed that Freddie was gay, not bi and that he never had sex with Barbara. The only person who keeps talking about her is Lesley-Ann Jones, a journalist who wrote several books about Freddie and was wrong about many "facts".

Video of Brian May talking about Freddie being gay, AIDS etc. about a week after Freddie died:

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by Anonymousreply 73November 4, 2018 2:16 PM

[quote] ...the Queen...

Who the fuck calls Queen “the Queen”?

by Anonymousreply 74November 4, 2018 2:20 PM

I loved it! It wasn't perfect but I enjoyed it.

Instead of the montage of the 70s I wish they would have selected a city/performance for some of those years and did the FULL song.

by Anonymousreply 75November 4, 2018 3:00 PM

50million debut this weekend

by Anonymousreply 76November 4, 2018 3:35 PM

Freddie Mercury was bisexual, yeah, just like Elton John and Boy George were bisexual. A man who slept with 1 woman and 7000 men isn't "bi." Christ people are stupid who buy this "bi" crap.

by Anonymousreply 77November 4, 2018 4:00 PM

Bohemian Rhapsody is an insult to Freddie Mercury

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by Anonymousreply 78November 4, 2018 4:56 PM

The only way to make the movie that critic wants would have been to do a series.

by Anonymousreply 79November 4, 2018 5:22 PM

Is r68 talking about Elizabeth?

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by Anonymousreply 80November 4, 2018 9:02 PM

Anyone can be bisexual, r69. Speaking of 69s.

The problem is, males are almost always oriented around ONE gender, not both. And the indications are that Freddie preferred men, had more mansex and meaningful relationships with gayboys. For Freddie not to be openly gay and open about his AIDS illness speaks to both his cowardice and the cruelty of a homophobic world.

by Anonymousreply 81November 4, 2018 9:06 PM

There's no dud, r70!

The movie's raked in $100 million worldwide already and most critics like it!

by Anonymousreply 82November 4, 2018 9:09 PM

Don't get me wrong, R82, saw it and really enjoyed it. Great movie. Good entertainment. I was just rolling my eyes at the cockring clutching (assume that's the opposite of pearls?) over the idea Mercury would rather be dead, even metaphorically, than associated with the film. It's a fine film and probably no more or less revised and sliced and diced than any other biopic.

by Anonymousreply 83November 4, 2018 9:23 PM

The Redundant Thread Thief strikes again — this time on BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY.

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by Anonymousreply 84November 4, 2018 11:25 PM

This movie is useless without hawkmen.

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by Anonymousreply 85November 5, 2018 12:19 AM

I've been watching Mercury interviews... Rami Malik camped it up too much. Freddie was much less effeminate in real life.

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by Anonymousreply 86November 5, 2018 12:25 AM

I wish he'd have quit smoking than only in his last two years (mentioned in Jim Hutton's memoir).

The first time I saw him in 1977, his vocals were amazing. By the mid-80s (I saw them in 1986), he kept adjusting to lower notes in concert. You can hear the difference in '70s vs '80s concert clips.

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by Anonymousreply 87November 5, 2018 12:43 AM

Well, the AIDS had to have a significant impact on the singing, too.

by Anonymousreply 88November 5, 2018 12:48 AM

Rami was excellent. Yes, I found myself saying That's not how it happened, but they had to fudge things for the sake of time & drama. Obviously recreating the entire live aid set was important.

Gay, bi, who knows, who cares. He was Freddie.

by Anonymousreply 89November 5, 2018 3:15 PM

Yes, R88, his vocals reach amazing heights on the last two albums, but it gets thinner and more shrill at times. "Innuendo" is an under-appreciated album.

by Anonymousreply 90November 5, 2018 4:16 PM

I haven't seen the movie—did they really play him with an Indian accent? In all the interviews I've seen of him he has a standard, crisp, rather posh, public-school-type English accent (mid-century version). Maybe he acquired that later in life?

by Anonymousreply 91November 5, 2018 4:38 PM

He did not have an Indian accent in the film.

How come John Deacon (the real one) was not a producer?

by Anonymousreply 92November 5, 2018 4:48 PM

R 92, he has nothing to do with Queen at a decision-making level but I think he gives the others carte blanche.

I like parts of Innuendo too, R90, it harks back to their earlier style. I would prefer it were it not so bombastic, though. The Show Must Go On would benefit from a bit more restraint. The vocals were amazing on that.

by Anonymousreply 93November 5, 2018 4:59 PM

One way the movie might be "dishonest" is in its portrayal of Freddie Mercury as a defiant survivor who was determined not to admit he had AIDS or change what he does because of the disease.

Of the press he tells his bandmates, "I'm not going to play their victim or be their cautionary tale," etc.

Well, if that's true, then how do you explain the content of their last 5 albums that take a decidedly depressing turn into doom, gloom and self pity about dying?

As Brian May described in r73's video, Queen's songs began addressing the toll AIDS was taking on Freddie. They became extremely sad and heartbreaking — not enjoyable or like Queen's original stuff at all.

I mean, songs like "Was It All Worth It?" "Let Me Live," "The Show Must Go On" and "Made In Heaven" were very bleak farewells to life and anguish over dying.

So maybe Freddie was defiant at the Live Aid concert, like the scene in the movie. But years later, AIDS caught up to him, he couldn't even finish recording his last album, and his musical content changed drastically.

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by Anonymousreply 94November 5, 2018 5:59 PM

He was human r94, of course his illness showed in the music. Although most of these depressing songs were written by other band members. Brian May wrote The Show Must Go On and Roger Taylor wrote These Are The Days Of Our Lives while Freddie wrote ... Delilah.

by Anonymousreply 95November 5, 2018 6:25 PM

I agree that Freddie was only human. It was a different time - how terrifying it must have been to be diagnosed with a new deadly disease that they knew so little about let alone treat. He was entitled to battle it on his terms.

by Anonymousreply 96November 5, 2018 6:29 PM

It looks like FLASH GORDON wins our poll, but I'm guessing most people who voted haven't seen BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY.

It's much better than whatever the fuck this was:

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by Anonymousreply 97November 5, 2018 8:47 PM

Datalounge as a whole needs to be a movie critic. Not a poll but a data on what they love or hate about the film. For instance CASTING 10/10 .

by Anonymousreply 98November 5, 2018 9:21 PM

Weren't there a lot of people missing from this movie? When did Phoebe come around? Who was that other fag hag he ran around with (not Mary)?

by Anonymousreply 99November 5, 2018 10:08 PM

Anyone here see Queen in person on July 13, 1985 at Live Aid at Wembley?

by Anonymousreply 100November 6, 2018 1:51 AM

Well, it's good to know when and where biographical movies diverge from the facts.

But the truth is, all of the minor inaccuracies changed for thematic purposes in the film are PETTY and INCONSEQUENTIAL.

It simply DOESN'T MATTER that Mercury was diagnosed with AIDS two years after Live Aid and the movie showed him struggling with the disease before his diagnosis.

Mercury DID struggle with his disease before his diagnosis.

And nothing in the "I'm going solo scene" doesn't mean Taylor had already gone solo. The scene can play the same way. Taylor's objection in the movie is just that Freddie was taking a bigger paycheck than Queen ever did and wasn't going to make time available for Queen, which Taylor always did at Freddie's discretion.

SO PICK NITS ALL YOU WANT. No historical drama is the truth. The essence of this film is true and it's a great movie!

by Anonymousreply 101November 6, 2018 6:05 PM

[quote]SO PICK NITS ALL YOU WANT.

Pics please.

by Anonymousreply 102November 6, 2018 6:09 PM

Whatever conversation Freddie Mercury had with the band re: his AIDS would have been had a few times after his diagnosis in 1987, as he struggled to finish albums and work.

So it's fair to see it in a movie that's trying to condense his life somewhere.

by Anonymousreply 103November 6, 2018 6:17 PM

It's a moralizing straight perspective on an a very GAY man's life.

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by Anonymousreply 104November 6, 2018 6:33 PM

I do find it hard to believe the rest of Queen. A ROCK BAND in the 70s in were saying "No parties please were straight".

Kinda weird Bryan Singer would think that.

by Anonymousreply 105November 6, 2018 6:58 PM

The poster in the redundant Bohemian Rhapsody Box Office Thread who thinks Freddie Mercury looked better than Rami Malek is WRONG.

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by Anonymousreply 106November 6, 2018 7:20 PM

[quote]No wonder straight people hate us — [R15] insists on cramming explicit gay sex down their throats every time

Have you never watched an action or horror movie?

by Anonymousreply 107November 6, 2018 7:26 PM

I loved the movie. It had some errors but it portrayed Freddie's essence quite well. Rami was amazing.

It was in no way straightwashed. Freddie himself said that no one would or could replace Mary. She was the "love of his life". Hutton may want to believe that he did but Freddie's will provides all the proof you need. Mary got Garden Lodge (the house Freddie shared with Hutton), the majority of his estate, his recording royalties, and custody of his ashes. Hutton got £500,000 the same as Freddie's chef.

by Anonymousreply 108November 7, 2018 6:16 AM

Bump for the Redundant Thread Thief starting pollutionary threads.

by Anonymousreply 109November 9, 2018 12:59 AM

There were several moments when I was awed by Freddie's creative brilliance and his sweetness and humanity. I had only known his badass rock star persona. I loved his passion for performing too. He was such a gifted artist.

by Anonymousreply 110November 9, 2018 1:10 AM

Did Freddie really love Jim? Was he more of a friend? Did he struggle to love a man in a relationship? He could have left Jim out of the will but I"m sure it bothered Jim he had to move out.

by Anonymousreply 111November 9, 2018 1:34 AM

Freddie called Jim his "husband" for years. Read Hutton's memoir, "Mercury and Me."

Check out the Instagram account jimercury. There are 100s of pics and videos of them together from 1986-1991.

Jim and two other gay men who were pals/assistants were said to be allowed to stay at the house as long as they wanted, according to Freddie's will.

Mary evicted them three months after Freddie died, and was nowhere near Freddie in the last months of his life.

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by Anonymousreply 112November 9, 2018 1:44 AM

Cats vs pussy:

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by Anonymousreply 113November 9, 2018 1:50 AM

[quote]Jim and two other gay men who were pals/assistants were said to be allowed to stay at the house as long as they wanted, according to Freddie's will.

That's not true, R112, and the will is online so you can check that. If he wanted to give them somewhere to live, he would have, but Garden Lodge was given completely to Mary Austin. She hints in this article that they weren't at all happy with the terms of the will.

Also, she did visit him constantly while he was ill according to Jim Hutton's memoir as well as her own account.

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by Anonymousreply 114November 9, 2018 11:39 AM

He also gave her custody of his ashes just before he died telling her she knew where to bury them. No one else knows where his final resting place is.

by Anonymousreply 115November 9, 2018 12:26 PM

That's true, R115. I don't think it's helpful to argue about who was the more important to Freddie Mercury. I think both were, but he chose to treat Mary Austin as if she were really his wife and legal heir. I think he did treat Jim Hutton a bit shabbily. He could at least have informed him and his family of the terms of the will. (His parents and sister did get a percentage of his assets, but Mary Austin got the lion's share.)

It seems that he simply trusted her above anyone, perhaps because she was the one who told him the truth about himself. It was a pretty selfless act.

by Anonymousreply 116November 9, 2018 12:52 PM

Thanks, R114, for linking a Russian website with this disclaimer:

"... although there are a lot of discrepances, especially concerning the dates. Certainly David Wigg isn't a Queen expert and he must have confused some facts and events, well-known for everyone who is acquainted at least with Queen discography. "

by Anonymousreply 117November 9, 2018 4:23 PM

You're right, R117. You could assume that it's a site run by Russian fans who have transcribed a Daily Mail article, and that those fans have nitpicked certain aspects of the article to do with Queen's music, but that would be unforgivably gullible, and no doubt playing into Putin's hands.

Or something.

by Anonymousreply 118November 9, 2018 7:21 PM

I just went to see it today and enjoyed it. I honestly don't understand how anyone could say that it was "straight-washed"? It wasn't exactly coy in its portrayal of Freddie's sexuality.

One criticism I have is that there was no need to re-enact the entire Live Aid performance. It ate into too much time. Everyone can just watch the real thing on YouTube if they want to. I would rather have seen a portrayal of Freddie's final years at the end of the film. But I can also understand why those close to him may feel that that would be too voyeuristic.

by Anonymousreply 119November 9, 2018 11:43 PM

It's not "straight-washed" as much as the three other band members are portrayed as Boy Scouts, while Freddie very much enjoyed his sexual adventures, but is portrayed as miserable once he's out to friends. The gay scenes are portrayed as dark gloomy leather bars and cocaine over-use (which he did, but still).

It's like something out of "Cruising."

Link explains the depths of its clichéd morality tropes:

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by Anonymousreply 120November 10, 2018 12:09 AM

That columnist is about 18 years old. He has no sense of context. What were the straight people in your life telling you in the 80s and early 9o0s?

by Anonymousreply 121November 10, 2018 12:17 AM

His age is irrelevant, or on point, because the movie is targeted to young people who never knew and never will know the facts of his life without reading the numerous biographies and Hutton's memoir.

The writer has every sense of context.

Straight people were quite irrelevant to me in the '80s and '90s. What's your point? I saw Queen twice live and followed them for their entire careers until Freddie died.

by Anonymousreply 122November 10, 2018 12:38 AM

The point was that in the 80s and 90s it was not uncommon for straight people to express fear and concern (and worse) toward gay people who were coming out. It was a frightening time. So the whining about how people are portrayed as acting is seeing the 80s through the present day. Two different worlds.

Are you always as stupid as you seem, R122?

by Anonymousreply 123November 10, 2018 12:43 AM

[quote]Straight people were quite irrelevant to me in the '80s and '90s. What's your point? I saw Queen twice live and followed them for their entire careers until Freddie died.

Well then I guess you just get to tell the rest of us what to think and do.

by Anonymousreply 124November 10, 2018 12:44 AM

R123, you're the stupid one, flailing about other people and trying to encompass the entire world.

This thread is about the film, and a comparison of the FACTS of Mercury's life versus the moralistic fantasy of the film.

Do you even know anything of Mercury's life outside of the film? Have you even seen the film? You're just a cunt-rag troll with no critical thinking or recognition of tired, gay-dismissive screenplay that conveniently shuttles Freddie's happy years with Jim Hutton to a few scenes (all historically wrong) then into a single afterthought as the credits roll.

R124, your inane sarcasm is fitting for DL, but irrelevant to the discussion.

by Anonymousreply 125November 10, 2018 12:48 AM

Aren't you grand, R125? And apparently easily upset. Go back to your fainting couch, please.

by Anonymousreply 126November 10, 2018 12:54 AM

Aren't you petty, R126? And apparently just a troll. Go back to your cave, please.

by Anonymousreply 127November 10, 2018 2:07 AM

Why don't you get the orderly and before he locks the door you can tell him all about how "I can't imagine my life without Queen."

by Anonymousreply 128November 10, 2018 2:13 AM

R126 the bitter clueless troll at R59: "I had no idea what artists they were. "

Because you knew nothing about the band before seeing the film, and you still don't. Your posts in this thread are just your rambling personal opinion. I've provided numerous links to videos and respected critical reviews.

Many longtime fans are agreeing with others. It's an amusing confection, with a warped perspective on Mercury's life aimed solely at selling more records.

And, troll, you're welcome to ignore or disagree with the New York Times review.

Excerpt:

" The screenwriter (Anthony McCarten, who wrote “Darkest Hour” and “The Theory of Everything”) and the credited director, Bryan Singer (who was replaced by Dexter Fletcher late in the production), swaddle their subject in pageantry and spectacle, without supplying dramatic momentum or psychological insight. Mercury, as he struggles with his sexuality and his need for creative autonomy, is a collection of adjectives — imperious, vulnerable, witty, forlorn — in search of a personality.

His marriage, to Mary Austin (Lucy Boynton), is idealized, though it’s also complicated by Freddie’s attraction to men. The film doesn’t seem to know what to do with homosexual desire — or with gay politics as the sexual liberation of the ’70s gave way to the AIDS crisis of the ’80s. Freddie’s love affair with Paul Prenter (Allen Leech of “Downton Abbey” fame), a member of Queen’s management team, is played for maximum scandal, a nightmare of debauchery, addiction and exploitation, with Freddie in the role of corrupted innocent."

But of course, it's all about YOU in your little world. Who cares what dozens of respected publications' reviewers think?

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by Anonymousreply 129November 10, 2018 2:20 AM

There, there, dear.... just go imagine your life with Queen... it filled in the voids before.

by Anonymousreply 130November 10, 2018 2:44 AM

And to close the set, Queen has no fucking clue who are you. Or, if they did, it's because of the necessary restraining order.

by Anonymousreply 131November 10, 2018 2:45 AM

And thus, the extent of the trollina's massive lack of knowledge about the band or the film is revealed; R130 & R131, Cunt and Cuntier.

by Anonymousreply 132November 10, 2018 3:56 AM

R130 & R131:

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by Anonymousreply 133November 10, 2018 4:40 AM

I won't pay to see this. He is too short and it's obvious on film.

by Anonymousreply 134November 10, 2018 4:45 AM

Absolutely there was a need to perform Queen's greatest hits in this movie, r119.

Many ticket buyers came to learn their music, so significant stretches of their songs had to be played — and longtime fans WANT them to be played, as well.'

I loved it.

by Anonymousreply 135November 10, 2018 5:04 AM

Yes, r135, and hearing their songs in a multiplex cinema with surround sound is the perfect place to hear Queen. I think that's one of the reasons the film is doing so well because their music needs that type of outlet.

by Anonymousreply 136November 10, 2018 5:09 AM

saw Rami on a talk show. He is so gay. Is he out? Pings.

by Anonymousreply 137November 10, 2018 5:11 AM

The first mistake was the corny title. I'm a fan but even I cringed when I heard they were titling this "Bohemian Rhapsody." Come on, do better.

I like Rami but this is just Oscar bait for him and it shows. Not quite camp, but almost.

by Anonymousreply 138November 10, 2018 5:35 AM

The first mistake was the corny title. I'm a fan but even I cringed when I heard they were titling this "Bohemian Rhapsody." Come on, do better.

I like Rami but this is just Oscar bait for him and it shows. Not quite camp, but almost.

by Anonymousreply 139November 10, 2018 5:35 AM

I was presold to love this movie since I am a big Queen fan. But the horrendous wigs and banal/trite dialogue made me think I had wasted 2-1/2 hours of my life on this shit when I could have just stayed home and listened to Queen.

by Anonymousreply 140November 10, 2018 6:20 AM

I wonder how much his parents, if they're alive, and his sister, receive annually from royalties, residuals. I wonder how much the surviving member of Queen receive annually.

And now that BH is a hit, Ka-ching!

by Anonymousreply 141November 10, 2018 11:56 AM

I wonder based upon the info in the preceding article about Mary Austin that states that Mercury left her 50% of future monies form his rights to Queen's music and that his parents and sister were left the other %50.

by Anonymousreply 142November 10, 2018 12:02 PM

other %50

by Anonymousreply 143November 10, 2018 12:03 PM

other portion.

by Anonymousreply 144November 10, 2018 12:09 PM

This movie was subtly homophobic. Any one here watched The Celluloid closet, old documentary about homosexuality in movies? It showed very well subtle homophobia in movies, and Bohemian Rhapsody made the same way.

by Anonymousreply 145November 14, 2018 3:08 PM

Exactly. Vito Russo would have more than a few words to say about this film.

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by Anonymousreply 146November 14, 2018 4:10 PM

[quote]saw Rami on a talk show. He is so gay. Is he out? Pings.

Yes, everyone says that. I wonder how much it works against him in Hollywood. A lot I should think. They would rationalise it as 'somewhat strange' and unrelatable to Middle America. It must be very hard for him, so good on him for pushing, because he comes across as preternaturally smart.

by Anonymousreply 147November 25, 2018 11:22 PM

You just know Jim and Freddie would have been dataloungers in the future:

"A few day lateral Freddie and I were toghether on the sofa in they lounge watching an old thirties' black-and-withe movie. The heroine asked her partner. ' Will we spend the rest of our lives toghether?. 'of course we will', I answered. 'Don't be silly" -Jim Hutton- Mercury and me.

by Anonymousreply 148November 26, 2018 2:37 AM

Oh, yes; earrings and caftans galore!

"Darlings, I was just talking to my hubbie about getting another cat. Is seven too much? It's not like the cute little thing won't have his own room in the mansion. What's the fuss?" - F. Merc.

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by Anonymousreply 149November 26, 2018 4:38 PM

Jim and Freddie would totally have been DL eldergays. Lamenting the decline of the leather scene. Freddie's Instagram would be endless collages of #Catsofinstagram.

by Anonymousreply 150November 27, 2018 2:09 AM

"And we were old -fashioned when it came to having to have sex in total privacy. Whenever Freddie and I jumped on each other in the bedroom to make love, he would always ensure that none of the cats were watching."- Jim Hutton, Mercury and me.

I just love this quote.

by Anonymousreply 151November 27, 2018 5:54 AM

I finally saw it yesterday and loved it.

What struck me most was the pure genius, confidence, talent , and fearlessness that so accurately describes Freddie Mercury and his music. He was simply brilliant as were all the musicians in Queen. Rami Malek was also brilliant in his part, I never thought of him as anyone but Mercury during the movie. He totally owned it, not true in so many bio-pics. He deserved the Best Actor award, also not true of many who have won.

I know that creative license was taken with Mercury's story and that much was left out, but that did not ruin the experience for me.

by Anonymousreply 152March 9, 2019 6:13 PM

Indie wire is staffed by uptight hipster brats terrified of seeming "unwoke ". The same with slate, salon, etc.

by Anonymousreply 153March 9, 2019 6:28 PM
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