Princess Eugenie's Wedding: Official Thread Part 2

It was fun guys, you made a tedious wedding lots of fun! See ya.

I watched the wedding on You Tube and there are two things I want to say first I thought an UFO has landed on Fergies head and second nutmeg had dangling tendrils again maybe because she was sitting next to Princess Anne . The bride looked lovely in her dress yes it suited her figure very well

First thread is full.

Quite a difference between the father and daughter's weddings.

Kate the Great.

Best photo of the bride.

The scar of her back is shown off.

Did Fergie wear deodorant?

A bit too much blush for Eugenie but she was lovely anyway.

Father and daughter on arrival at St George's Chapel.

Leaving the church.

There is definitely something up with Charles and Camilla. Every single senior member of the family was there except her and it doesn't make sense that she would miss an event known about since last year for a relatively minor engagement somewhere in remote Scotland. Just watching the news here in the UK and a commentator was hushed up very quickly when he suggested there were 'rumours'. Incidentally there have been no pictures of this 'engagement' so far. Very suspicious!

Eugene looks good, as well as picking a dress that is very “her” - traditional with a touch of frou frou.

Kate in magenta is a touch tacky.

R11 - Camilla probably didn't want to be around Fergie who was once a great friend of Diana. Too many memories of adultery that she would rather forget. Of course, Charles didn't give a damn.

I was thinking maybe illness re Camilla.

Why was Holly Valance there?

Robbie Williams's daughter looks just like him.

Eugenie looked lovely - I actually preferred her dress to Meghan's and Kate's, which I would not have expected given her history of fashion choices.

I was cringing so hard when Fergie was revelling in all the attention!

The Queen with the Grim Reaper (aka Prince Philip). Hang in there, Majesty!

All of the little kiddies in the royal wedding.

Walking down the aisle.

I didn't watch it on tv, just saw pics on twitter, she looked pretty, he didn't look as nice. what did the sister wear?

yes i agree, her dress was wayyyy better than Meghans.

The tiara on her head was gorg.

Ricky Martin was there.

Did Fergs have a sweat stain when waving to the crowd or was that shadow?

Three photos of the royal wedding cake. It matches the flowers at the church. Very autumn.

It's quite sweet to see George and Charlotte having fun with Savannah. I remember being that age and idolising my big cousin.

R19 - Her sister Beatrice wore this outfit. Very subdued compared to her wedding attire of the past.

R23 - looks like sweat stains to me.

R12 - nothing "tacky" about Kate or her outfit.

George skipping

Not many people liked Nutmeg's outfit. Many thought she looked old and dowdy.

Saucy Savannah Phillips egging Charlotte to do something naughty. LOL.

Is that you Granny?

Both noses of Nutmeg and her Dimwit Duke are strange when photographed in profile.

[quote]Why was Holly Valance there?

Her husband is a billionaire property developer. She was the plus one.

Likewise James Blunt. He married into the aristocracy.

Meanwhile Delta Goodrem is apoplectic.

Eugenie' vs. Meghan

The bride in the car.

R22 did Ricky Martin get pissed on at the reception?

R12 - Kate rocked it! She knows what to wear for the occasion.

The very tall wedding cake. The colors of autumn.

Where exactly will the happy couple reside in London? Anyone know?

Kate’s color was garish. She has a classic case of “I’ve lost weight after baby number 3! I’m back amd FUCK THE BRIDE!” syndrome. I never like how she positions her hats but at least the cut of her dress was impeccable.

Pit Stains Ferguson, tacky as usual.

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I think fergie looked good, but not so sure about her hat.

Thanks, R33.

I wonder if the wings on Fergie's hat are a reference to her creation, Budgie the Little Helicopter.

R27 - I agree, I thought Kate looked fantastic. She is rockin' those autumn cranberries and wine colours. I wouldn't call that magenta, either, which is much deeper. Her waist looks about 21" around and her legs look fabulous. Love the Treacy hat, as well. Only quibble is the earrings, which seem more suited for evening wear than day wear.

R40 - How is claret/mulberry/cranberry "garish"? It was a perfectly suitable color for an autumn wedding. It didn't upstage the bride whatsoever.

I gather your argument is that as Kate has a tiny waist and great legs, she should wear a burka to hide them to prove that she isn't like every other woman on earth in wanting to display her figure's good points? She should choose clothes that make her trashy sister in law feel better about her stick legs and box figure?

Camilla fucked up. There's no way to justify her absence. No matter what was going down behind the scenes, she still had to observe protocol by being there. Even if the bride shouted at the top of her voice "I DON'T WANT CAMILLA THERE!," she still should have shown up. Wonder what the drama is. Any talk yet?

Eugiene looked lovely. R43 There has to be behind the scene difficulties between Camilla and Andrew’s family.

You do know Andrew is an overbearing pain in the ass who has to stage manage every fucking thing. If I were Fergie it would drive me to drink too, or at least take a pill...or two. I look at Eugenie and Beatrice and the dynamic between them and their two dysfunctional parents and see traces of my own family and the horrors of my abusive, sarcastic, abrupt, overbearing father and my "exuberant" mother who loved to be the center of attention; as my father criticized her endlessly and she definitely lived down to his expectations. Both of them were semi functioning alcoholics. Both dead of cancer and OMG the relief I felt.

Bea and Eugenie probably spend a lot of time accommodating Andrew and humoring Fergie. And giving in to just get through whatever they're doing. THose two are definitely survivors. Watch their expressions in unguarded moments. The eyes. And Fergie has probably spent years telling them, well it'll be alright, luv. We'll just get through it. And those wedding guests? A lot of Andrew's trash was on full display. Cocaine Naomi Campbell? Kate Moss? And of course Fergie had a lot of her own School friends(!) come along.

One commentator asked the other "Was this really a Royal wedding, or was it more a Society wedding?" and the verdict was definitely society. Andrew is used to either getting his own way, or making an end run around others to do whatever the fuck he wants. Andrew wanted to make sure they had more guests than Harry. Irony is that Eugenie and Beatrice are sweet girls and they're close to Harry and Meghan. I agree Fergie was out of it, but I also have a feeling Andrew would have elbowed her out of the way to make sure he wasn't up staged. He's a pervert and a pig. Yaay for Camilla!

As for the wedding itself, I thought it was well done. I loved the bank of autumnal flowers lining the steps to the Chapel, and I though Eugenie's dress was lovely and very flattering. George and Charlotte...and Savannah Phillips never disappoint. Meghan looked like she was going out for high tea at the Dorchester. Meh. Kate's dress was fine, but her hat was terrific, IMO. I thought the Queen looked fine. She seemed to have a lovely beaded dress on under that coat and I wish we could have seen more of it. Yes, she is shrinking. The ceremony itself, with the exception of the somewhat inappropriate reading from Gatsby, was very nice. I happen to like Andrea Bocelli and I love Panis Angelicus. (Catholic school kid here.) Too bad the choir didn't accompany him. Pavarotti sang it with a choir for back up & it was stunning. The wedding didn't seem funereal at all IMO. It seemed loose and happy. Not stiff and sombre. Hell Royal weddings are a lot more stiff and formal. This was fine. A

As for the fashion, with a few exceptions the guests looked like pure shit. Truly. Not the royals, so much, but the guests.

Poor Fergie. Do they not sell dress shields in England? She was sweating like a whore in church, quite apt.

[quote]Meanwhile Delta Goodrem is apoplectic.

Why?

The happy couple in the royal coach.

Lots of green colored outfits like Princess Anne's here. She ruined it with the wrap.

Cheeky Eugenie.

The bride did look like a princess.

Her Majesty was happy.

Answering my own question at R39. The lovely couple will call Ivy Cottage at Kensington Palace home. Hmmmm.....

A view from above.

Three women, three hats.

The bride looked gorgeous, it was a beautiful dress and the tiara was stunning. Given the past criticism of her fashion sense I'm glad she got it right on the day.

Kate looked amazing too. Meghan just a bit meh, I think she went a bit too dowdy in attempts not to upstage the bride. I expect it's a difficult line to tread in those circles though.

You want tacky? How about Cara with toothpick, tux and top hat.

I thought Eug looked very pretty, loved her hair and the dress did somehow tame her bodacious ta-tas. Meghan looked downright matronly, that navy seemed awfully somber.

I love Fergie and she looked great. That hat is nowhere near as wacky as some of the Treacy chapeaus we've seen at past royal weddings. Bea looked good too, thank goodness she went for a solid color; we could have had enormous cabbage roses there.

Andrew always looks angry now, quite a difference from the handsome young man who was always smiling.

Oh! And Cara Delawhatever is pure-dee trash! All the morons on Twitter are praising her to the skies.

Kate, Eugenie and Meghan's wedding dresses.

She definitely looked like a princess. 600+ posts and not one of you bitches pointed it out.

Beatrice and mother Sarah Ferguson.

It could have been worse.

Boy, Beatrice has calmed down with the fascinators.

The many faces of Charlotte.

Giving away the bouquet.

The bride looked beautiful.

I had the same reaction as Marie Dressler to Jean Harlow in "Dinner At Eight," after hearing the passage from "The Great Gatsby" and the Dean of Windsor declaring that Eugenie had read the novel.

[quote]A lot of Andrew's trash was on full display. Cocaine Naomi Campbell? Kate Moss? And of course Fergie had a lot of her own School friends(!) come along.

AND Fergie's trash too.

I can see a trend coming - big dress, a tiara and no veil.

R65 - well, Sparkle really loses the contest in those three photographs. From left to right: the winner is Kate, the runner-up is Yuge, and the loser is Sparkle.

Caption should read: What was she thinking?

The bride looks back.

Keeping an eye on a difficult son.

Dimwit Duke, Messy Meg and Almighty Anne in conversation.

I think Eugenie nailed it by foregoing the veil in her interpretation of the modern bride. A veil has all sorts of out-dated misogynistic connotations; and in Meghan's case, her ridiculously long veil destroyed her wedding hair and made her look sweaty and rumpled during the ceremony.

It also must be mentioned how much more relaxed and happy everyone, especially HM, look in this wedding than they did at the Sussex wedding. You could feel the subtle glumness at the Sussex wedding. "Well, let's get this over and keep our fingers crossed."

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Did they hold the wedding on a Friday to save money? In the US only the poors have a Friday wedding.

R82 - why does MEagain only have two buttons on her coat done up?

Did she get dressed in a hurry and forget the other buttons?

Does she want people to believe that she's pregnant?

Does her coat fit properly?

Oh, so many questions and no answers.

Aren't most royal weddings held during the week? Harry's was on Saturday.

Eugenie exchanges a look with her parents.

Newly married.

The Royal Family see the couple off.

Sealed with a kiss.

The kiss from another angle.

Most Royal Weddings seem to be held on a Wednesday (1st time around).

Though more recent weddings have been on Fridays and Saturdays.

Prince Charles was due to marry Camilla of Friday 8th of April 2005 but inconveniently Pope John Paul II died and his funeral was held on that day. Prince Charles attended on behalf of HM Queen and was married on Saturday the 9th of April 2005 instead.

I'm tired of seeing the after nuptials customary Royal kiss. At the next one, I was to see a quick 1-2 Royal dry hump!

R91 - that's what I thought. Thanks for the info.

Will the groom receive a title? Or is the bride too far down the royal food chain to receive such royal favor?

R94 - I believe Prince Andrew has already said that Jack will NOT be given any title.

[quote]Ricky Martin was there.

Which tiara did he wear?

I don’t think much of Eugenie, but I thought of the royal brides over the past 10 years, she looked the best. Her dress was gorgeous and she chose a fantastic tiara. Kate and Meagan were so boring in their dress and tiara choices.

R51 Absolutely loved your take. Spot on and really well written. Thanks!

My husband and I were honoured to be among the guests. I hope the bride and groom will enjoy all the happiness we do. And it really doesn't cost me all that much to keep him.

R76, Naomi looks beautiful but there’s too much going on there, she’s gilding the lily.

Genie kept the dress simple..considering the foofoo the royals go for..Dianas dress was hideous, this one was perfect. She loved very pretty

Stephen Fry and husband bring to mind the old saying...

There's no fool like an old fool.

This is the best I've seen her look. She looks gorg! That tiara is stunning and they look compatible.

Beatrice actually looked very nice today. Think about what might have been....

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She looked lovely. I hope Sarah isn't terribly pissed right now. She must love a free bar.

Will Camilla make it back in time to join in the Congo line or is she still in Scotland?!

Bea was entrusted with keeping an eye on her mother to make sure Sarah wasn't selling any "access for cash" at the wedding.

I think the hubby is handsome. He has a kind face.

Beatrice wanted wear this to the wedding, but thankfully Granny kaiboshed it.

The Tiara Part 1.

The Tiara - Part Two.

I thought Eugenie looked beautiful. Happy, happy girl who maximized her beauty.

Eugenie looked stunning today. The dress and the tiara were just lovely. Thank God there was no ridiculously long veil like the one the DuchAss of SuckSex wore. And don't get me started on MeGain's ridiculous bridal bouquet compared to the nice one Eugenie had.

Now that we've seen Eug's terrific wedding attire, MeGain's entire wedding attire is even more laughable.

"I told you, my invitation to Eugenie's wedding was lost in the fucking post."

After watching so many of these royal weddings over the years:

Eugenie did well, her dress was very well done. Great cut and style, simple yet elegant. The material was very heavy but this was a fall wedding, the heaviness was offset by her open neckline and lack of veil, which imo would have weighed the whole look down. The tiara was a huge surprise - I don't think we've seen that on in public in a long while. Her hair and makeup were lovely, well done.

Floral arrangements were a bit overly autumnal but still nice. The ceremony itself very traditional and in keeping with past royal weddings. No long winded preacher sermon here. Lovely bow and very deep, traditional curtsy by the bride to QEII after the national anthem - that is how its done. The guests: Kate looked great, wonderful color and headpiece. Meghan - fine, she's not supposed to steal focus. Her hair though! will someone invest in some holding/sculpting gel for her. It's like she does her own hair for these events. Contrast with Kate's and Sophie Wessex's neat up dos, not a hair our of place.

Fergie - ok, nothing unexpected there: jolly and just happy to be in the room. Bea: great color, stately looking actually; beginning to dress like the blood royal princess she is, and not a B-list starlet as she's always tended to. Nice to see Philip present, never thought for a second he'd miss this, very spry for 97. Sophie Winkleman Windsor front/center at the wave-off for the couple, her daughter was a bridesmaid and she was seriously injured in a car crash months ago, I think she's still in a brace after major back surgery so good to see her put in front.

No Clooneys? The groom works for George, strange. Lots of celebs, Kate Moss, Naomi. Demi Moore? not sure of that connection. Both of Harry's exes were there as were Pippa Mids & new hubs, plus James Middleton. Ricky Martin - thought he might sing but no.

Am still going thru many photos of guests to assess the fashion. Overall people not dressed as formally as Harry's a few months ago but this was as said more society event than royal.

From the DM comments section:

>>Very nice Kate while clingon keeps looking directly at the camera. <<

....

I wonder if Camilla had anything to do with Fergie's not being invited to William's wedding and now she's been served her "cold dish" today

Leaving the reception and driving off in a James Bond car.

Prince Edward thinks Nutmeg's multiple rings are creepy and chav. Are tatoos next up?

A close up of the beautiful diamond and emerald tiara.

The eight children in the wedding party.

The lovely bouquet - green and white with a surprising splash of purple.

Eugenie had a bit of struggle getting into the James Bond car.

Harry's old gf Cressida Bonas.

No veil and a bare back to proudly show off her surgery scar.

A cute moment - the groom put his glasses on so he could see the bride walking down the aisle.

[quote]Prince Andrew is on train duty as the couple leave their reception.

Sorry. My ghouls are only available for important weddings.

This woman looked like an ad for Valentine's Day.

Class vs. Trash

A spontaneous moment.

Fergie looks 90 years old in that photo, R131.

The colorful sashes on the attendants outfits were nice and apparently were taken from a favorite painting of the couple's, which was also featured on the back of the wedding program. Eugenie is some kind of an art gallery director in London? that's what I read.

Lots of royals but I didn't see many Ferguson relations. Or maybe they just weren't photographed or identified. If they were there they weren't seated in the inner nave. Fergie has sisters and several nieces and nephews. Also did not see any Kent of Gloucester cousins with exception of Freddy and Gabriella Windsor.

A windy day wrecked havoc with hats and skirts.

Fergie forgot a cardinal fashion rule - nada tight and shiny after 50.

Flashback Friday - Andrew and Sarah's wedding day. Prince William and Peter Phillips were page boys.

All in all, this wedding was better than the Harry and Meghan wedding.

Superior wedding dress, superior hairstyle, superior tiara, superior bouquet and flowers, superior coach, superior colors and theme.

The ceremony was more traditional and a bit boring but no crazy ass pastor and tacky choir.

Jack looks like he’s dumb but has a big cock. My favorite combo.

This little girl (Robbie Williams' daughter Theodora) had a strange exchange with Fergie as they standing on the steps to leave.

Theodora: Are you a Queen?

Fergie: No.

Theodora: Are you a Princess?

Fergie: Yes.

WTF? Does Fergie still think she's married to Prince Andrew?

Leaked footage of Fergie trying her damndest to get to the crab hors d'oeuvres at the buffet table

Sorry forgot the photo in R139. This is Theodora.

R139 That's cute even if it's a big lie.

Theodora looks like her father.

Didn't care for the dress but I like the fact that wanted her scoliosis scars to show. I also loved the tiara and wish Meghan had chosen it.

In R130 why did Prince Harry go to the wedding with Eddie Redmayne?

R140 She took forever to go down. Great staying power.

The row of rings was tacky. She’s tacky. And where the hell is she getting the money for all this givenchy?

Mrs Clingon is at it again.

It was so windy so I'm glad the couple had a closed carriage as opposed to an open landau.

A nice shot of the back of the wedding dress.

Yes I noticed the many rings r147 and was surprised too. Didn't seem to go with the elegant solid color coat and dress combo. Merching?

Nice clip at R127. Groom looks choked up.

Fergie with the groom's parents.

So the Greville jewels were gifts to the then Duchess of York, who would eventually be Queen and later Queen Mum.

That means that those are not part of the royal jewels which would all belong to whoever was monarch?

They were given personally to and owned personally by the Queen Mum.

Since the Queen outlived Princess Margaret (by less than 2 months), I assume that all the Greville collection is now owned personally by the Queen.

From what I read (who knows if true), the Queen selects several choices for a bride and they get to choose only from what the Queen offers?

I wonder if Eugenie specifically requested the Greville Tiara (an unusual choice) or if it was one of the choices the Queen offered.

Let's face it: This wedding was a happy event, with the RF approving of the union.

Now, let's compare this wedding to the one back in May ...

Lady Gabriella Windsor with her fiancee.

So when can we expect blind items about the wedding to start dropping on CDAN, etc.? Does Sparkle hide in the ladies room at the reception and text them to her BFF Jessica MulPhoney to be relayed directly to Lainey?

“The ex-girlfriends of that permanent foreign-born A-lister looked like they’d been crying their eyes out at that royally big wedding they all attended recently. They didn’t expect to see the A-lister’s sexpot wife sporting that budding baby bump!”

Or

“The sexy newcomer’s scene stealing appearance at that big wedding didn’t sit well with her sister in law, who was said to look more matronly than usual. Perhaps there’s trouble in Cambr—er, paradise—behind those palace doors?”

There were some other European quasi royalty at the wedding. The Hanovers (Princess Caroline of Monaco's stepson).

Marie Chantal and her husband Prince Pavlos of Greece (no monarchy there anymore). Also accompanied by her daughter Maria Olympia.

Maria Olympia of Greece doing her rendition of "The Sound of Music".

Andrew's message

The impressive train was about six steps long.

With all due respect, Airmiles Andy can go fuck himself.

Beatrice and Eugenie are very close.

Compared to MeGain's ridiculously long veil, the long train of Eug's dress didn't look tacky.

I suppose that Camilla and Princess Michael were hammered in some London pub chasing shots of Jose Cuervo with pints of Guiness as a spite to Jack Brooksbank.

Charles with Meghan and Harry.

It was a lovely dress. A real success. Unique and probably style setting but also succès full designed for the wearer. Eugénie wore the dress. Not the other way around. But then again for some people style consists of what is waiting in wardrobe.

Happy Hour

Prince Philippos of Greece - Pavlos's younger and way hotter brother - was there with his gf Nina Flohr. They walked in behind Liv Tyler and her bf.

Princess Michael was there.

Three stunned royals.

R171 - yes but I didn't see Princess Alexandra of Kent. Both of her brothers were there. Anyone see Alexandra?

LOL at the tags of R173's pic on Instagram.

In R173's pic, is the Funeral Floozy (aka the DuckAss of SuckSex aka Clingon) looking at the camera AGAIN?

I saw Alexandra. I think she was wearing lavender. Silver shoes I think. Anyway I saw her walk into the choir among the early royal arrivals.

A gallery of Royals.

Top Row: Queen, Princes Philip, Charles and William, Catherine, Harry and Meghan, Princess Anne

Bottom Row: Fergie, Beatrice, Peter and Autumn Phillips, the Tindalls, Lady Louise, Prince Pavlos and his wife.

How do I know these people? I don't run in their social circles. LOL.

No Alexandra, no Duchess of Kent, none of their offspring or Gloucester offspring from what I saw.

Apparently Alexandra just broke her arm so was unable to attend.

I saw a bus pull up at St George's Chapel and was expecting lots of royals. I only saw Prince and Princess Michael of Kent get out. Why the hell would they need a bus for two people? Didn't anyone want to go with them?

R179 - that's too bad. I hope she make a quick recovery. Thanks for the info.

^makes

Sorry to hear about Princess Alexandra. Missed her today. She always looks wonderful.

A fall is not good. Wish her the best in her recovery.

Charlotte showing off her teeth.

Sabine Getty in pink. I hate pink.

Poppy Delevingne looked pretty good in de la Renta.

Loved Sophie Wessex's hair and hat.

03:22 onward. Isn't that Kate's brother sitting with some dude at the left hand side of your screen?

None of the Royal Family looked very joyful. There is trouble. Big trouble in that family.

When they sang God Save the Queen - she seemed so sad. I wonder if she was thinking this is the last time I will hear this in St George's Chapel - sung by so many.

I thought Eugenie looked terrific. At first, I was a little taken back but soon realized her whole look fit her personality. Good for her. She was very pretty and handled herself well. I watched the interview they did with her on TLC and she was very likable and authentic. Charles is making a big mistake if he doesn't use Eugenie for some events.

What Camilla did was small and petty. Eugenie didn't deserve such a snub. I'm just betting the Queen didn't like it at all. Philip probably encouraged it.

The Queen won't see the next royal wedding, she must know it now.

No one knows why Camilla didn't show up. For all we know, maybe she wanted to be there but Charles had to make a "deal" with Andrew.

The Queen still has a while to go and may very well see Beatrice married off, if that happens in the next few years.

It just dawned on me - is the cranberry McQueen that Kate wore today identical to the bring pink McQueen with same paper-bag pleated waist detail she wore to the Trooping the Colour a few years ago?

Who cares about CamZilla?

bring = bright

If she really wasn't invited or didn't want to go, wouldn't it have been less obvious to feign an illness? Or a broken arm..

On that note, I really hope lovely Princess Alexandra has a quick recovery.

Any pics of DL icon Princess Michael, that old bitch?!

Essentially, R194. I casually observed that today's dress had puffs at the shoulders.

Camilla did not show, because of prior engagements in Scotland. The calendars of the royals are scheduled months and, at times, years in advance.

Holly Candy wore the most elegant outfit of the guests.

The most handsome man there was Jamie Redknapp:

I think there must be all sorts of chicanery going on in the Royal family. Prince and Princess Michael showing up as the ONLY passengers on that GIANT bus? wtf?

Holly Candy:

That outfit at r199 would be perfect if not for the tacky leather short gloves with bows.

15 kids at an elementary school could be easily rescheduled. And then she was hosting a lunch and riding party with friends in Scotland.

There is something else going on. And whatever it is has the whole lot of them shook.

Well wait a cotton pickin' minute! Is his last name Brooksbank OR is his last name Stamp? I'm confused.

Stamp is his middle name.

^Thank you, baby.

R201, Why would "the lot of them be shook" if Camilla didn't attend? Can't see her as a loving, admired Queen Consort.

The Duchess of Cornwall needs to have her brakes checked STAT! Camilla, you in danguh, gurl......

Bit surprised that George Clooney wasn't there, as the groom works for him.

R207 Not anymore. Georgie sold the tequila business so he could focus on being a full time father and heterosexual.

Euge had to reschedule her wedding after the Queen gave Harry permission to marry Sparkle in June. So when they were looking at alternate dates I am sure they consulted the schedules of the most senior royals, and that would include Camilla. The event she was at could easily be rescheduled. She obviously didn't want to go to the wedding, or they didn't want her there.

Clooney hasn't owned Casamigos since June 2017, they sold it to Diageo for around $1Billion.

Guesses at what had them shook -

Charles and Camilla have split. With scandal involved. One or both cheating.

Prince Andrew has a new fresh scandal.

The Queen wants Prince William to become King and has been working behind the scenes to make it happen.

Just guesses. You?

[quote]There is something else going on. And whatever it is has the whole lot of them shook.

Any guesses?

I believe Charles and Camilla have split. And that the Queen is in failing health, which is exacerbating all sorts of tensions in the family.

And the addition of Sparkles the Gossip Leaking Clown hasn’t helped matters.

The Australian magazine had an article about the Wales' marriage possibly breaking up. Someone said the RF couldn't stand the scandal of another royal divorce, but I think the British public would be a lot more accepting of Charles taking over from the queen if Camilla wasn't part of the deal. People just hate the idea that she succeeded in taking what should have been Diana's, and Diana lost her life as a consequence. They would welcome the news of a divorce, just as they would welcome Harry divorcing MM.

[quote]I believe Charles and Camilla have split.

The Royals wouldn't make Camilla the focus of media attention through her absence. Makes no sense,

R211 More Datalounge invention.

R211 I made it clear it's just speculation. I thought that's part of what we do around here?

R189 The Queen looks like that every time the national anthem is sung in her presence. The anthem is about her - she’s hardly going to stand there with a big crazy grin.

The RF looked so much happier than at the wedding of Duke Dimwit and the Dumbess of SuckSex.

And tbf, CamZilla wasn't missed.

R214, Are you serious that the Royal subjects would welcome a divorce between Prince Harry & MM? Every time I see Harry & Kate together, giggling & gossiping, to me it looks like that's the genuine couple with a connection.

How about some DL gossipy guesses of why celebs from Ricky Martin to Demi Moore were at the wedding.

Even though Randy Gerber, Mike M, and Clooney sold Casamigos they still have a huge contractural obligation to fulfill. That is, PR and promotion of the brand. The reason given for not attending the wedding is Amal Clooney's speaking engagement in the states. Apparently her husband wasn't allowed to attend without her.

Demi was supposedly there not as an invitee but a plus-one, the guy who took her is an old friend who is some kind of celebrity floral designer or something like that.

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I wonder if she had a veil but because of the wind decided not to wear it?

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The bride looked SMASHING, the MOTB and Bea , both looked radiant, The Queen dragged Phil from the Telly and he did not croak. Sparkle looked unpolished as usual, Horseface was a no show. Charles was glum. WHAT'S NOT TO LIKE ABOUT THIS WEDDING ??????

Duke Dimwit's wedding to SSAA took place on a Saturday, not on a Friday, an ordinary work day, that is. No wonder there were no street parties.

R158 I am a bit shocked, Ernst August Jr used to be quite cute :( Alcoholic?

There is no way Camilla is going to leave Charles when he is this close to the throne. Even if they loathe each other she will not divorce him.

I highly doubt Charles and Camilla will split. I think Camilla's absence was a snub aimed at Andrew, Fergie, or both.

The Queen's grandchildren date for a long time before marrying.

Peter and Autumn: 5 years

Zara and Mike: 7 years

Eugenie and Jack: 8 years

William and Kate: nearly 10 years

Harry and Meghan are the exception, having got married less than two years after meeting.

As long as the Queen is alive, tantrum-throwing Charles can't show publicly what he really thinks of oompous Airmiles Andy.

But CamZilla can.

I have been looking for a video of Fergie inside the chapel. There is nothing posted yet showing the wedding in it's entirety.

I really can't think of a reason why any of them thought it a good idea Camilla didn't attend. She's too senior for it to go unnoticed and too senior for it to be OK for her not to be there. Even if her and Charles were splitting up, she'd still attend. Her appointment in Scotland could have been rearranged. Even if there is some kind of feud going on, just for the sake of appearances she'd attend.

It's completely baffling.

The Daily Mail has a great photo of when Prince Philip was approaching where they were all sitting. The looks on their faces are priceless. Fergie looks a little devilish. I'm so glad she didn't put her eyes down.

They have a lot of photos. You have to scroll down a ways to find that one.

[quote]Harry and Meghan are the exception, having got married less than two years after meeting.

14 months.

The Daily Mirror picked Pippa as one of the guests to put on their front page for tomorrow. Seriously, I cannot believe how much fame she's gleaned from wearing a bridesmaid's dress seven years ago.

Well, she's the sister of the future queen.

Much more interesting than, say, the wife of the future king's brother.

DM Cover of Mr and mrs. Brooksbank

Saturday Times

I always find it interesting how everyone's exes, ALL of them, always get invited to the wedding at these upper crust weddings. I wish I was as big of a person! For one thing, I wouldn't want my husband's exes all seated behind me, for another I never remain THAT close with my own exes.

Maybe in my next life I'll be cool like that

Eugenie's wedding dress had the same cut as Cinderella's wedding dress at the end of the movie, which I think is fantastic seeing as she is the real deal princess and all!

Why does the DM feel the need to make this about the attention-whoring hooker duchAss?

Her new husband has ZERO sex appeal. Zilch!

I didn't like the dress. Too much satin and matronly. Didn't like Meghan's either. I do think overall everyone looked better at this one and seemed more at ease than at Harry's wedding. Kids were dressed better too. Camilla not attending is just bizarre.

Does Bea get to keep the four bedroom St James Palace apartment now that it's just her on her own? Or will she be required to move to smaller digs? Ivy Cottage looks like a huge overgrown patch of poison ivy.

I think Bea already switched apartments, r236. DM reported it a few weeks ago.

Harry's ex, Cressida Bonas, looked lovely. Harry really blew it. At least Bonas looks like class. Beautiful skin and colouring, tall and slender. She at least looks like she belongs.

I haven't the slightest doubt that Sparkle picked an outfit to fan pregnancy rumours to get herself a bit of extra attention. If she's pregnant, she can't go to Tonga and Fiji, and if she's going to Tonga and Fiji, she isn't pregnant, so she's just fucking with the press and her moronic stans and grabbing a bit of attention. She's disgusting.

Didn't see the wedding, just the pictures here. Fergie, I was rooting for you! We were all rooting for you!! The sweat stains, the wrinkled skirt, the weird hat. Every damn time.

R248 you are unhinged.

Fergie's outfit was a little too tight.

Well wait. Doesn't Princess Beatrice live in NYC? Anyone know where she lives in NYC? What's she doing there?

[quote]I didn't like the dress. Too much satin and matronly.

I also thought there was a lot of dress for that short stature. But the designers weren't working with someone with a supermodel figure so I guess it is a success story. The shoulder pleat motif covered her pudgy upperarms and the corset stye held up the massive Windsor fort.

Not a lot of other design options for dear Eugenie.

Camilla is very vocal about her fear of flying. To attend the wedding and still host the house party organised would have involved a helicopter, probably using a Royal Plane and then returning to Birkhall the same way in a short space of time. Anxiety doesn't usually improve as you age.

If there is a feud between Andrew and Camilla it doesn't date back far, the photo below is from 2015.

[quote]Fergie's outfit was a little too tight.

On the bright side, the dress stayed on.

R254 clearly has no idea concerning the way in which the wealthy spar. They trade acid drenched whit and conjecture for the purposes of morbidly wounding their opponents all the while wearing the brightest smiles possible.

[quote]Camilla is very vocal about her fear of flying. To attend the wedding and still host the house party organised would have involved a helicopter, probably using a Royal Plane and then returning to Birkhall the same way in a short space of time. Anxiety doesn't usually improve as you age. If there is a feud between Andrew and Camilla it doesn't date back far, the photo below is from 2015.

It was such a minor event that could have easily been re-scheduled. The royals have scheduling staff and that's that all they do is take care of 'inconvenient 'invitations. Royal family events are the big media draws - it's what makes the public feel like they're also part of the Windsor family. It seems strange that Camilla missed this wedding.

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Were Sarah Chatto and her family or the new Earl of Snowden and his present? Didn't see any photos of any of them. Strange, as they are closer cousins to the bride than the Kents and Gloucesters.

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The mom's hat is just ugly and she should have covered up her chest, it's so sun damaged.

The groom looks better with glasses.

That cake is ridiculous.

Sparkle chose a beautiful shade of blue.

Camilla found some Scottish bairns for a quick photo op.

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Sarah just needs to stop drinking for a while, she's clearly 'pissed' (drunk) or hungover almost every time she appears in public, she's not like the late Queen Mother who could handle her liquor.

I can't unsee Fergie's pit stains. So tacky.

Let me help, r265.

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Coke sweat

Such a shame. Fergie was one of the best elements of the HazBean wedding.

Ferries should see a doctor for hyperhydrosis.

The Queen is looking frail. Not sure about the leg. Wouldn't it be both legs if it was heart failure?

R267 The Queen seems to have aged rapidly since her Diamond Jubilee and the Olympics in 2012.

Her hump (stoop) is more pronounced and she doesn't walk as well as she did.

This Pic is from William & Kate's wedding 7 years ago in 2011 - remarkable difference.

r260 I thought it looked like both of them were getting teary eyed. Fergie's hat is shadowing her eyes a bit but she looks a little teary eyed as well. So assuming that's the case, I think it's sweet. Bitch about them, but it seems like they've been very loving parents and their daughters love them a lot. It's not unusual for parents to cry at their children's weddings. I'm not sure if we've seen the other Royal parents do it, I can't remember. Overall I thought it seemed like a very happy wedding. The bride was luminous, the wedding dress was lovely and very princess like without being tacky, there were lots of smiles that seemed genuine.

I'm not surprised if Andrew was helping with the train, I seem to remember him helping a little bit with Sarah's train when they were on the balcony at their own wedding. lol

The pit stains were unfortunate but I didn't think Fergie was really that wild and crazy, neither was the hat. Not as subdued as maybe it could have been, but it really wasn't over the top. Apparently one of the person's she hugged off to the side was someone who was at her own wedding, a friend of her mother's.

Excessive perspiration is common in some alcoholics.

I must be the only person who liked Fergie's hat, wings and all. But I agree with the poster in the last thread who said she must have stolen it from a gondolier.

[quote]Bitch about them, but it seems like they've been very loving parents and their daughters love them a lot.

I can't disagree with that so I will just say Meagain Markle is yuck.

R259 - Sarah Chatto was there. I saw a photograph of her in the background as the RF left by their side exit after the service.

R252 = stalker ! (just kidding)

She lived in NYC for a while, she worked for an art auction company, paddle or something like that

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Sarah Chatto and Lord Snowden were there. Almost everybody was there, except Cowmilla. Would love to know the story there. The engagement thing was bullshit. Camilla is lazy at heart, she'd love nothing better than to scarf lunch and champers. It will come out. Curious to know.

Getty Images has pages of great images but won't embed as near as I can tell.

Would it have killed Meghan to wear a color besides navy or black?

Eugenie has tendrils!!! Oh no, is this the new trend?

It's funny, Will and Kate kept Charlotte and George far from Meghan & Co. at the wedding. It's like they were participating, but apart. As soon as George and Charlotte finished the procession they were collected and when the bride and groom walked down the aisle, they were safely with their parents. At Eugenie's wedding George and Charlotte were left with their fellow attendants and pages throughout the ceremony, and walked back down the aisle with them.

No excuses. Will and Kate did not want to leave their kids in some ante room with the Mulroney kids lest someone connected to Jessica Mulroney whip out a camera and take pics of the Mulroney kids with George and Charlotte so Jessica could post it on instagram with some coy allusion to future weddings. Not to worry when the kids are amongst family and trusted friends.

I don't usually subscribe to theories, R281, but I buy that one complete, re. that Mulroney creature.

I wonder if HM Queen will give Greville Emerald Kokoshnik Tiara, to Eugenie at some point?

It is a good match to the earrings Jack bought and it is a 'Personal' not 'Royal' jewel. A married woman needs a Tiara.

R241 I think all of the exes get invited because it is considered low class to be fussed about things like that. Nothing is supposed to matter that much. OMG, drama? Emotion? It's just rubbing in how chill (to the point of cold) aristos are supposed to be.

OTOH, where royalty is involved everybody assumes that the non-royal ex feels like a discard. William's "known" exes (which, at his wedding, was basically Arabella Musgrove. Jecca Craig has never been established as more than a friend) all did well in the marriage department without William. Musgrove has some fantasy life, Craig's husband is adorable and they have a couple of young kids - both women were wealthy and wouldn't have gained much by marrying royal, not even status. I sometimes think among the aristos and very wealthy Brits being royal is kind of tacky and a joke. Being rich means status and you can do what you like. Cressida Bonas and Chelsey Davey have certainly benefited professionally from their relationship with Harry. When it comes to Cressida I think she has zero regrets, and, in fact, if she could have skipped the relationship with Harry and gone straight to benefiting from it afterwards, she would have. With Chelsey, I suspect she and Harry both have regrets but not of the "If only we had a second chance!" variety, because I think neither have changed much from who they were when they broke up, so it still wouldn't work. Part of me pictures a wedding between Chelsey and Harry though and *I* have regrets, since she seems to be adored by his family and the atmosphere would have been so different.

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She’s such an asshole, trying to make sure everyone will wonder if she’s preggo.

R285 One may take a train from Scotland to London, however there is no tube from Scotland to London, the tube is the London subway.

R281, the difference is that George and Charlotte know their cousins Savannah and the rest much better and probably see them and play with them more often. They didn't really know the kids at Meghan and Harry's wedding that well and it was pretty obvius George was out of sorts that day because he was uncooperative and whiney, outing behind his father, and generally being a brat. Miss Charlotte OTOH, always gives a smile and a wave.

"pouting behind his father"

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He was snapped on the "Inner Circle" line or something like that, r287.

"In his low-key appearance on Thursday, James was spotted lounging on a tube seat while engrossed in his mobile phone. The Duchess of Cambridge's younger brother, 31, was pictured on the London Underground travelling to South Kensington - just a stone's throw from his sister's home - on Thursday afternoon."

R285 He is wearing socks with Top-Sider/Deck/Boat shoes in that pic.

James Middleton should be boiled alive in oil!

A gust of wind blowing up to reveal tights and massive granny panties is not "nearly naked" and no one will print an upshot of a 14 year old child, you pervs.

Anyway, Eugenie looked beautiful. (Though she had the exact same hairstyle Meghan had for her wedding, dangling tendrils and all). Kate looked 250 years old. Meghan looked boring.

I wonder if Harry is back to fucking his ex-gfs.

[quote]Kate looked 250 years old.

Let's see your photo r293.

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Fergie looks demented.

Harry is besotted. It's so obvious . Nope. I will bet that if there is any infidelity among them, it will be Katherine who gets bored and seeks adventure.

Sadly, there is video on the internets of Lady Louse from behind with her skirt lifted high from the wind.

Not too sure he was fucking any of the gfs in the first place R294 .

[quote]I wonder if HM Queen will give Greville Emerald Kokoshnik Tiara, to Eugenie at some point?

Doubtful. Why would she? Eugenie's life won't often call for tiaras. If it does, they share around. But the royals know you keep the collection as a collection.

Nah, R288, the difference is Will and Kate don't trust Meghan or her familiars as far as they can throw them and didn't want them exploited. It's not about the sensitivities of the wee ones.

Home of Mrs. Ronnie Greville, of the tiara, and one of the most successful social climbers in history. Before the Duchess of Sussex came along, anyway.

I thought that was a little odd, R263. They were all inside the doorway together then she sort of shunted herself off to the corner before going to the side of the door again a little later. Given her condition she may have felt safer standing next to a wall.

Useless trivia: The clutch she was carrying belonged to her mother, who had carried it to her and Andrew’s wedding.

Then there was Jack’s little “whoo!” and fist-pump when he got into the car. Cute, but maybe granny was on to something.

Did I see a bald patch on the groom ?

LOL at the Kate sugars desperate to pretend their hero isn't a workshy imbecile who can barely get a sentence out and is good for nothing except popping out brats.

You do realise everyone here in the UK, certainly everyone in society, regards Kate as the ultimate in classless white trash gold-diggers, yes?

There is no society.

Well, at least she's good for that, R306.

R248, the South will NOT rise again, so pipe down: it’s time for your Oxy.

r109 Bea looks like Shreks wife in that pic

Bald patches on grooms aren't unusual. The impending end of their youthful appeal on the meat market prods them down the aisle.

That's what I saw and was referring to, r299. The part where her dress lifts up has been removed from the internet.

[quote]Bea looks like Shreks wife in that pic

Is he single? Asking for a friend

A bald patch is sign of virility

How are Prince Pavlos and Prince Phillip related?

Here we go, they do like to pop up every now and again like rabid dogs (don't you R309?).

Cue the three redundant MM sugar tactics: 1. Madly wave the racist card 2. Screech that everyone is just jealous of Meghan 3. Attack Kate

Do the Meagain lickers message each other to come over here and post their rote?

DL, Do you think the groom was just nervous, shy, or something else? Considering his job, to appear uncomfortable in public seems a bit surprising. Then again, it appears that Eugenie makes more of the decisions of the pair. I did not like what Eugenie's new mother-in-law was wearing. She also seems to dominate her more retiring husband.

Eugenie is not pretty like Kate or Meghan. Is she rich ?

Collage of photos of kids going up the steps in blustery winds.

R312 The Pics have been removed because the poster would be liable to charges relating to relating to distributing indecent images of children, rendering the poster with the possibility of a 9 year custodial sentence in gaol. Definitely on the Sex Offenders Register for Life.

R319, Many men are really attracted to super busty women with maternal/motherly figures. Look at Jack's mother wearing the loud, big flower print dress and then look at his new wife. Many marry a woman that reminds them of their mothers. Other men marry the complete opposite.

I just watched some HBO show about the Queen that was taped maybe a year and a half ago? Queen of the World. William mentions his third baby is due?

The Queen we saw today is much frailer than the Queen then. She is still amazing for her age but it is starting to catch up to her now.

I finally get how much she will be missed. I think the Royal Family might fall apart without her. The claws are already out.

Love the sashes on the kids. Does anyone have a screenshot of the similar painting on the wedding booklet? Or a link to the painting the sashes reference?

R319, I don't know where Jack was living before he got married but I'm sure he'll love his new upscale digs. Still a new home and the accompanying servants & acoutrements (sp) is apparently not enough of an incentive for Beatrice to get permanently paired up.

It doesn't matter whether Eugenie is rich, it's about the connections and people the groom will meet and I'm sure he will soon be rich from all the biz deals he will be making. Heard he was a mere barman.

[quote]I think the Royal Family might fall apart without her.

When the Queen and Philip are gone, it's going to feel mighty empty behind those castle walls. Lots of BRF members gone in relatively rapid succession (Margaret, the Queen Mother, Diana). I don't see how Charles can fill the Queen's shoes.

[quote]barman

The press now refers to jack as a "wine merchant."

R323 Unlike any other British Monarch we are watching HM Queen's decline Live on TV. It's something new for everybody. The 'Power Plays' began several years ago, Charles looks to be winning.

R327 The immediate Royal Family was much smaller in1952, The Queen managed, as will Charles.

Hope he gives Fergie a generous family discount.

Camilla will fill the Queen’s shoes just fine r327

I'm stealing this from the original thread, for those who missed it.

Any idea why the Beckhams were no show? Were they not invited? Not that they were missed but it was said to be a given they would be there.

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[quote][R327] The immediate Royal Family was much smaller in1952, The Queen managed, as will Charles.

Family Size wasn't my point. Never mind.

DM now calling Jack "Mr Brooksbank - a drinks industry executive." From barman, to manager to wine merchant to now, drinks industry representative.

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Wow, I think Fergie was drunk. Check out the video R188 posted with the family members' arrivals. At 2:40 Fergie arrives and instead of heading up the stairs she runs over to the crowd and awkwardly embraces a couple there. Well, she seemed to run off half way through the second hug.

The photos of Fergie and Phil in their seats are the only photos that show them in the same frame. During the post-ceremony send-off, someone was obviously in charge of keeping them separated from each other.

Did Fergie bring a date ?

The dress was too bulky, made her back look huge and the whole showing the scar thing was tacky as hell.

Fergie was pissed as a fart, threw herself out of the car, hurtled across the road to greet some startled onlookers before being ushered up the stairs by a stressed Bea. Poor Bea had to spend 99% of the wedding babysitting her mum, at one point almost forcing Fergie to look down at the programme because the silly cow kept making faces at the people sitting opposite.

The groom spent the entire wedding looking as if he was going to faint. He was wobbling, sweating, clasping his hands together. At one point he couldn't fit the ring over Eugenie's thick knuckle.

Robbie Williams came wandering down the path, clutching at his poor drab of a mother in law and his anorexic wife. MIL hat flew off and Williams just stood there like a prick. Anorexic wife wore white. To top if off, Williams chewed gum loudly throughout the ceremony. Classy.

Kate Moss, threw shade at the bride in full view of the cameras. Couldn't keep the sneer off her puss. She was probably wondering what the hell she and her homely daughter were doing there.

Prince Andrew terrorised the little flower girls and the boys by virtually pushing them off the ridiculous train. He followed this up by almost standing on top of his daughter during the ceremony. He ignored Fergie, who looked like she was going to cry, and usurped Bea's role as Matron of Honour by throwing Eugenie into the carriage,, after the ceremony.

Prince George amused himself by continuously picking his nose and eating it's contents.

Cara Delvigne decided to turn up dressed like the Artful Dodger. She completed her look with a toothpick shoved into her gob. She did this, knowing that she would make headlines and take attention away from the bride. Lovely.

Finally, all the guests decided to ignore the bride and groom's request for privacy by posting to Instagram incessantly at the reception. Demi Moore slithering up a staircase, the loathsome Delvigne clan, passed out in a room, Robbie and his wife aping for the camera, it goes on and on. The whole thing was a trashtastic mess. I am amazed that anyone could think it was better than Harry and Meg's efforts.

Hilariously, despite Andrew's obvious intentions. The palace has just announced no titles will be given to the newlyweds. Perfect!

Eugenie visibly lost weight for the wedding so the ring incident was probably just Jack's nerves.

He's always wanted to work in the hospitality industry, once telling the DM that his dream is to own a chain of pubs. He was indeed once a barman but his current job title is Brand Ambassador of Casamigos tequila, ie, a glorified salesman but probably exceolent at it. Many people were expecting the Clooneys to be there because Clooney founded the company but Clooney sold it to one of the big liquor conglomerates last year for a billion dollars.

Don't underestimate him. He's smart, tall, handsome, ambitious and grew up in society and aristo circles. He's also universally liked in those circles. Very charming guy.

R341, I was going to make the same comment about Carla and The Artful Dodger just as yours popped up!

Why is everyone so excited over a second rate royal ?

Here’s a video of the ring moment referenced by R337. And if you missed the curtesy, that video is near the end of the article. The Queen looks a bit out of it.

If Eugenie had married a billionaire or the King of another country, I bet you wouldn't be saying that r343.

R345 Beggars can’t be choosers

Before you cunt me out — “curtsy”

I didn't know Lady Louise had gotten her eye fixed.

Is Queen Charlotte the youngest person ever to receive the title "DL Fave"? It seems clear she's won it.

The York girls have obviously acquired a new stylist, who is perfection for them and should be retained at all costs (and loaned to Sparkle). For my money the best-dressed guest was Robbie Williams's wife. Very elegant, very understated, and one of the few women who didn't need to clutch at her outfit in the high wind.

Someone asked whether Eugenie had a veil but discarded it because of the weather. The commentary I heard said she had deliberately chosen not to have one so as to show off the scar on her back (all the docotrs and nurses from that event were seated in the inner quire with the families). However, the coach the couple left in was meant to be open, and that was changed at the last minute because of the wind.

And, of course, we get video of the curtsy & bow.

Which was mysteriously not photographed for the Sparkle & Dim wedding.

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Has anyone read anything official about how she will be styled now? I'm sure it will be something along the lines of HRH Princess Beatrice Mrs. Jack Brooksbank but I haven't seen anything in the past couple of days.

She hasn't given up her title but Jack himself declined being given a courtesy title.

So who cried?

Bea looked better than she ever has before. The royal blue color suits her. I also liked her hair and makeup.

R352 here. I was certainly wrong that she will still be titled HRH Princess Beatrice since that's her fucking sister and I must be getting fucking drunk.

Who's the vision standing on the left, in the pink mini, overprocessed hair and stripper heels?

Not sure if this has been posted, from Royal Central, The Day in Pictures.

R333, the story is that one of PH's friends had known MM in her yachting capacity and there was some awkwardness when he assumed Harry wanted the same experience. That friend was said to be Tom Inskip.

Is it ‘cos I is black?

I hoped Charles would walk Sparkle down the aisle again for old times' sake.

Yup, I posted the same photo r357.

-- r239

[quote]Who's the vision standing on the left, in the pink mini, overprocessed hair and stripper heels?

That would be Jack's ex.

For real? Damn, I would NEVER let his ex attend my wedding. fuck that!

[quote]I hoped Charles would walk Sparkle down the aisle again for old times' sake.

Camilla onto her 2nd bottle of Glenfiddich.

Re: QEII: From one's 80s to inside 90s is a HUGE physical distance. Pushing a century is way beyond average, so the body's systems are accelerating in break-down.

I had hoped Camilla would suddenly crash the wedding, storming up the aisle followed by hundreds of her most cherished Scottish children.

Perhaps the RF has convinced Charles that Camilla can never be Queen and so she’s boycotting.

Couldn’t Beatrice have lost some weight for the big day?

Someone asked aboout their titles:

"Buckingham Palace has not announced any new titles for Princess Eugenie and her new husband today, meaning they will go by the names of Mr and Mrs Brooksbank."

--DM

From Princess Eugenie to Mrs. Brooksbank?

Good heavens!

"I have known strange errors to occur in that publication."

Under the most formal of circumstances, they should probably be announced as "Her Royal Highness Princess Beatrice of York and Mr. Jack Brookbank."

I don't think either of them give a damn.

What is this strange new practice of omitting the periods after Mr and Mrs? I'm seeing it a lot these days.

Mr, that's a old practice.

Fergie is SUCH a mess; I adore her.

Well, I'm an old man but it doesn't seem right.

Fergie was just as out of it at Harry and M's wedding but no one seemed to notice or comment on it. But they sure are now.

Megan loves the camera!

Princess Eugenie of York, not Beatrice!!!! I don't know why I keep mixing them up but will retire to my eldergay bed now.

Fergie never disappoints. I feel bad for her but don't see her as a victim here. It was her moment to shine but she looked atrocious. Honestly, how hard can it be to buy a suit or dress and a matching hat? Fergie is certainly aware that she is overweight, so why wouldn't she know how to choose fabrics and styles that conceal rather than showcase her weight? She must know her chest is sun-damaged, why show it off? She has seen how her girls have been ridiculed for outlandish hats, couldn't she have made a better choice? If I were her, I would study pics of Princess Michael and choose accordingly. Now there is a woman who knows how to dress elegantly.

[quote]Perhaps the RF has convinced Charles that Camilla can never be Queen and so she’s boycotting.

She probably asked the Queen to borrow that Russian styled tiara for the occasion and after the old biddy told her "No, Eugenie's going to wear that," Cammie stamped her foot and ran away to Scotland.

I think being frumpy is a privilege of the aristocracy, and Fergs is indulging.

Frumpy is one thing but we have had antiperspirants, including prescription strengths, not to mention dress shields, for decades now. Beyond excusable for a formal occasion.

The thing I've enjoyed most about this thread are all the Cam pics, and accompanying comments. Thanks for the laughs.

more pictures

more pictures of how the wind affected the guests and their clothing.

Are Eugenie and Beatrice royal trash? Too many common B and C list stars and people picked up from bars. Beatrice will outdo the junk invitation list. Camilla will sitcthat one out too.

I break wind in their general direction.

So is Jack now styled as HRH Prince Eugenie of York?

It was fine. More than fine for a royal occasion which are usually quite boring anyway. Bride presented herself on her wedding day more presentably than in her entire life and even quite lovely, bride and groom both seemed genuinely fond of each other and generally unpretentious. Of course you had to sit through the Royal rigamarole but what did anyone expect? Happy for them both and a good day for the BRF, who could use a few more of those.

R387, I really was wondering how some of the models/celebs got an invite. What was Ricky Martin's connection? Cara D's?

Considering that all the Delevigne sisters were among the guests, they must all belong to the same circle of socialites.

R391 The Daily Fail explained how they knew some of the guests. A impressive number were met in bars and watering holes. Sharon Osborne figured somewhere.

Ricky Martin's husband is an artist, and the bride is kind of in the art world -- maybe she met him in NY when she worked there?

I. don’t know why everyone is so besotted with Fergie . Her hat belonged to Ascot not a royal wedding and her clothes also ! She was looking like a freak and drunk at the same time . Never been a fan of her . Tacky woman

I was really rooting for Fergie. I can't understand why no one restrained her. Sadly, her wedding appearance will go down as one of Fergie's Greatest Hits.

Now I can finally see Charles in Harry, the man has definitely lost his looks

Beatrice must be shitting bricks about now.

The dysfunctional mess that was/is Andrew and Fergie has weighed heavily on the two daughters who acted like surrogate parents/babysitters to their two empty, entitled, narcissistic parents.

Eugenie has now escaped that role by marrying. She will always love her parents but it won't be the same as before especially when she becomes a mother herself.

Beatrice will feel enormous pressure to take on the caretaker role all by herself. I wouldn't be surprised if she drinks herself or if she never marries in future.

Before you say I'm crazy just remember a cardinal rule -- narcissists devour their young -- even in the name of love.

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George looks hungrily for Maud's booger.

R398, That's actually very poignant.

It's already Saturday morning in England and I wonder how many times Fergie has called or texted Eugenie pestering her daughter about how she's doing.

WTF with Harry’s hair? It’s growing all down the back of his neck. Get a haircut, dickhead!

Demi Moore did look rather witchy. Maybe it's the long, dank hair.

Here's the Mark Bradford painting that was in the attendants sashes and bows and on the back of the wedding program.

Thanks r406. Very appealing.

[quote] It's already Saturday morning in England and I wonder how many times Fergie has called or texted Eugenie pestering her daughter about how she's doing.

You think Eugenie has told her if her maidenhead has been broken?

Exactly r380. There no reason why Fergie should have worn a dress too tight and with static cling and a ridiculous hat. She should have looked to the way Camilla or Princess Michael dress for these things. Pastels, plenty of room in the cut of the jackets, hats with some interest. The green was a good attempt at color, but somehow didn’t hit the mark. I think because the dress was straining at the seams. It just didn’t seem like the sort of outfit that announced “I’m back in the royal fold!”

R409, and don't forget her sweaty armpits!

Camilla can probably avoid the Yorks again until Christmas at Sandringham. That should be interesting.

Do you think Camilla sent a wedding present though? Is sending presents a BRF thing?

I notice at these events The Queen always walks out with the archbishop. They walk in tandem, and seem to chat as equals. We know The Queen is profoundly religious, but isn’t she still higher ranking than the bishops of the church? One would expect them to walk the way Philip walks, behind her.

Fergie looked cheap. Cheap and trashy. I can't imagine a single news account that will say anything nice abut her fashion choice. The thing is, if they were hoping for her to be low key at this event she was so conspicuously low key it called attention to her and the bizarre way Andrew took over. Beatrice has been referred to repeatedly as the maid of honor to her sister, yet she was not dressed in bridal attendant attire, and she did no attending. None. Her father was de facto Maid of honor. Hard for me to guess which came first, Fergie's drunkenness then the shunning, or the shunning = drunkenness. Fergie was Eugenie's Black Jack Bouvier.

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A question for the fraus. When the younger sister marries before the older one is there tension because of that?

Beatrice was dating some loser for years and then got dumped. She seems lost and probably fears spinsterhood and being her mother's emotional crutch.

R341 How was Scotland, Camilla?

R352 He didn't decline a courtesy title, one wasn't going to be forthcoming. Andy's probably desperately trying to have the York title passed to Bea, a la with the Mountbatten earldom. He would have been pushing his luck to ask for an earldom or dukedom for the new couple.

The more I consider it is the more I draw the final conclusion that Camilla was NOT invited to the wedding, and I think it was an intentional slight in direct relation to Fergie not being invited to the 2011 wedding of the Cambridges. Everything is the same concerning the uninvited: Sarah had to go to Thailand so she wouldn't be in London at the time, and Camilla had to go to Scotland. Everything is protocol with these folks even down to their seating in the church from most important to least - even their ARRIVALS are staged according to protocol. Camilla red lined Fergie in 2011, so Fergie and family red lined Camilla yesterday. Memory serving, there was even some friction between the Queen and Camilla in 2011 because Camilla supported the idea of everyone going by car TO Westminster as the Queen wanted to observe tradition by using horse and coach both to and from WA. Camilla's stepping on toes in 2011 resulted in her foot being trampled yesterday. THOSE WHACKY WINDSORS!

That theory is ridiculous.

R405, Thank you for your post. It looks better as a sash than as a painting IMHO. Then again, I prefer Monet.

I'm still in Scotland, r417, hosting a boozy house party at Birkhall with Chas.. Having such a hoot about family politics and perceived slights. Marvellous. Simply divine.

R416 Worse, they dated for a decade, then he dumped her and was engaged less than a year later. Bea will have been crushed but I doubt it caused tensions between the sisters. They seem like loving siblings.

A theory on Camilla not going to the wedding: A friend said: “The truth is that she’s not that close to the Yorks and she also thinks the wedding has become too large and tacky.

“The Duchess is quite a down-to-earth person and she can’t believe it’s necessary for Eugenie to invite 850 guests and have a carriage ride through the streets of Windsor.

“It’s hard to see her turning down the invitation as anything other than a snub but she insists she has another social event which she must be at.”

PEOPLE,PEOPLE,WELL ANYWAY MOST OF YOU ARE. THE REAL REASON HORSEFACE WAS NOT AT THE WEDDING...

R424, that’s an excuse.

Harry’s over-the-top wedding to a divorced American whack-tress (one he dated for just above a year) with a trashy tabloid-loving Family was the epitome of tacky, but Camilla was there.

Maybe THAT wedding was the one that decided her never to do it again, R426.

Yeah, no. Camilla is just an asshole.

I doubt anyone missed Camilla, including Charles.

Harry is Charle's son and Camilla's step son, and you can be sure whatever Harry Meghan and Charles wanted they got. Charles was all about being supportive as were his mother his wife his sister and Edward & Sophie. If Andrew was at all jealous,which he clearly was, then fuck it. He and Fergie probably bond over their shared animosity towards Charles & Camilla. They wanted to outdo them

I agree with Camilla. Given Eugenie's "place" it was rather over the top. Those 850 guests had to be paid for accommodated, entertained. The Queen hosted them, then the after party in the evening, etc. so it was a mess.. And it's also kind of absurd that anyone would think Camilla wasn't invited. The bride would never snub Camilla. And she is Prince Charles' wife. Her invitation is a given.

I believe there is rancor between the two brothers and part of it is Andrew's nasty personality, and the rest is jealousy on his part. Charles comes first. Those are the rules. The age gap between Charles and Andrew, coupled with the Queen's personal sense of duty back in those d ays, required her to place more burden on Charles from the start, and then later she coddled Andrew and Edward.

Andrew and Fergie are well matched. Typical really of people who can't afford all the splash but insist on it anyway. The Queen had to pay for not just her own wedding breakfast for 850 people, but probably picked up some other costs we will never know about. Andrew has no pride when it comes to putting the Queen in anawkward position. He's right to worry. The gravy days are almost at an end.

Little Mia Tindall is a sweet cutie pie. The older Phillips girl has evil eyes.

Savannah rocks. She's got that knowingly confident, future head girl thing going on.

Nor did I miss them.

Bea is going to wind up like her ancestress, Princess Victoria of Wales, who never married and tended after her mother as her companion for the rest of her life.

When I looked at the video of the page boy Louis falling on the steps, I see how it happened - everyone was holding hands, with Louis between Charlotte and Lady Louise. Then Charlotte turned to wave to the crowd and accidentally pulled the child she was holding hands with, Louis.He lost his grip on her, and then lost his grip on Louise, and then he fell on the steps.

Will someone tell Camilla she's needs a new hairstyle please?

Very hard to understand how Fergie, with her aristocratic background and lifelong exposure to the RF, is so clueless. Even Doria Ragland, the yoga instructor with dreadlocks and a nose ring, managed to appear in a lovely, appropriate MotB outfit. Although Camilla is one of the least attractive women around, her clothes for official events are stunning.

Because Fergie, at heart, is a Labrador Retriever. You can train them and some will behave as trained at all times, but most cannot fight nature, which is friendly, outgoing, and high-spirited. Fergie really is a lab. She can't help herself.

R437, she's still channeling that Farrah Fawcett hairdo from back in the days when she first got Charles to be her tampon.

If it works, why change it?

R250 - Then so are quite a few other people who noticed the unmistakable whiff of "Is she pregnant?" from the way she wore the coat. The papers picked it up.

Because, as we all know, it would never in a donkey's age occur to this former D-Lister Desperate to be an A-Lister to make the most of any public occasion, even if it really isn't about her.

R439 - I agree. She was, characterologically, simply unfit for royal life. Of course, Diana appeared to be far more "in the mold" but she turned out to be a disaster, too.

Leave it to the middle-class Home Counties girl to realise what's at stake and figure out that keeping her mouth shut, her clothes British, and her womb fertile was the way to go.

I agree with you about the dog part, R439, although I don't like the Lab comparison since I love Labs.

No one has mentioned the beautiful and very deep curtsey Eugenie made to the Queen upon leaving the altar for the walk back up the aisle.

The more you read about it though, you the more you realize royal life actually sucks now. Obviously you don't have to worry about paying the bills ever but deference is dead, between the media and the internet you're under brutal scrutiny, any time you live like you have money you catch hell... it would be hard to find a wife. William was lucky in Kate. Whatever her reasons she gets it. Harry probably not. Meagain plainly married the money not the job.

[QUOTE] Very hard to understand how Fergie, with her aristocratic background and lifelong exposure to the RF, is so clueless. Even Doria Ragland, the yoga instructor with dreadlocks and a nose ring, managed to appear in a lovely, appropriate MotB outfit.

This. I totally agree. Fergie was raised country gentry, she used to mingle with the royal family on the polo fields as a small child, she used to play with Andrew. She descended from Peers on both sides of her family. She knows the royal life and what’s expected of her. Yet she keeps blowing it, every chance she gets. Hopeless!

R444 - She has been doing this most of her life, she is has a lot of practice.

R430, Well Randy Andy and Fergie ,sure DID outdo Charles, Harry and Sparkle. This Wedding was befitting a BRF. ELEGANCE,class and pomp. The Bride's Father walked her down the Isle, not find a replacement for a white Trash Black Jack. At Sparkles wedding, I Half expected the black lady "nurses" in White, to patrol the Chapel. In case Elton or anyone else got the vapors.

[quote]Beatrice will feel enormous pressure to take on the caretaker role all by herself. I wouldn't be surprised if she drinks herself or if she never marries in future.

My sense as well. Won't marry. I was watching her interactions with Fergie and the rest of the day's events. It is not PC to make such remarks - but has anyone noticed Bea is somewhat "distracted" generally speaking?

I agree R445 but several lesser members of the RF manage to live privileged lives and don't attract any attention from the media. Fergie and her spawn cannot hold themselves back.

If I was a minor member of the RF, I'd pursue my hobbies, cash my checks and never speak publicly. If I wanted to support a charity there are many ways to do that quietly.

The Wessexes have managed to avoid scrutiny and negative publicity for quite awhile now, although their awkward teen daughter may be in for some criticism. We never hear anything about the Phillipses, apart from the comments about their daughter's behaviour at PH's wedding and later. Zara and Mike Tindall seem to be extremely popular.

Why would people criticize Louise tho?

She's an average 14 years old girl, nothing to see here.

I think she has lovely eyes.

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R454 Barf, she's so fake. Worst actress ever.

I think most people draw a distinction between working and titled members of the Royal Family and relations of the sovereign. So the Phillipses and the Tindalls, for example, go about their lives and may or may not attend events like the balcony appearance for the Trooping of the Colour or church services but in those contexts they attend due to their personal relationship to the sovereign, not as representatives of the State. That's the problem for Eug and Bugs... their parents tried to position them to straddle two worlds and it doesn't work. They're too far down the line to justify it in this day and age but back then when they were born the only person who saw the future clearly was Princess Anne, hence her decision to decline titles for her kids. I suspect you will see the same thing for William and Kate's grandchildren, bar the line of the heir. I bet even Harry is smart enough to title his children, should he remarry a woman capable of bearing children, as children of a Duke.

I, for one, have never devoted the brain cells to being able to distinguish Beatrice from Eugenie, and I don’t intend to start now.

Beatrice is the more bug-eyed, uglier one.

They have teeth like Mr. Ed.

Why?

[quote]the only person who saw the future clearly was Princess Anne, hence her decision to decline titles for her kids.

Anne saw there was money $$$ to be made without titles. Zara is getting a nice tidy sum from her "sporting" endorsements.

I happen to be in London and started to watch the wedding. What I haven't seen reported (unless I missed it somehow, but thought DL would pick it up) was when the children were let out of the car and up the steps, the women in the blue dress had problems keeping her dress from flying up. She wasn't successful. For a very brief moment when she was at the wind caught her dress and you could see her panties. I was watching live so maybe it was edited somehow. Did anyone else see this?

Whatever she saw, she extracted her kids from the royal rigamarole and set them on a path for the best of both worlds.

[quote]I happen to be in London and started to watch the wedding. What I haven't seen reported (unless I missed it somehow, but thought DL would pick it up) was when the children were let out of the car and up the steps, the women in the blue dress had problems keeping her dress from flying up. She wasn't successful. For a very brief moment when she was at the wind caught her dress and you could see her panties. I was watching live so maybe it was edited somehow. Did anyone else see this?

I mentioned this a few hours ago, r461. Read previous posts.

Eugenie has knocked Nutmeg and Kate off the front page of Hello.

R461 I feel awful for Louise. Sophie needed to have locked her daughter's dress down. The forecast was for rain and wind. No one was underestimating the wind either, it was a named storm with 'risk to life' warnings FFS. But she sent that girl out in that short and flimsy piece of cotton poly dress without granny's famous dress weights. She was wrangling those page boys and flower girls, she wasn't going to have her hands free to hold down her skirt.

The bride and groom from the back. Personally, I liked the dress except the neckline and the back (too much material). It took me awhile to like the tiara because I think it's more suitable for a state banquet than a wedding. It is a standout piece of jewellery.

Thank you, r458, but “York Girl” has always been sufficient identification for me.

R461 those black Spanx that look like shorts would have been a good idea under her dress in this case for the 14 year old girl. Not her fault and I saw the live version, however it is scrubbed from the internet out of respect for her.

Charlotte clutches her pearls about three seconds before the video ends, scorning, no doubt, the badly behaved Phillips girls.

I must be the only one who thought that "cyclops" tiara looked better suited for a Star Trek or Disney Princess show.

This is a lovely shot. Particularly look at the expressions on the faces of Fergie and Beatrice. They are both genuinely happy for Eugenie.

Whatever else is wrong with the York quartet, I think they all wanted Eugenie to have a great wedding.

If the Eugenie & Jack wedding had occurred first, as was originally planned, there would have been a lot more attention as it would have been the first royal wedding in some years.

Since Eugenie had to postpone her wedding for the Sparkle & Dim event, less attention was paid to the wedding of the Queen's granddaughter.

Eugenie looked great and both the bride and groom looked genuinely happy and aware of what they were doing.

Unlike the other duo where questions were raised about their awareness.

I would have been pissed if I had to postpone my wedding because of Dim and Clingon.

Lord Frederick's wife Sophie with their flower girl daughter Maud. She attends the same school as Prince George.

Eugenie's bouquet has been left at the Grave of The Unknown Warrier (eg. tomb of the unknown soldier) at Westminster Abbey. It's a tradition began by the Queen Mother.

If you click on the post, it shows another photo of the bouquet. How small it looks compared to the tomb.

Camilla was not invited.

Why on earth wouldn't they fix this child's teeth?

A radiant Eugenie.

Jack may be a tequila peddler, but his father is old Etonian and Jack went to Stowe - so Jack grew up with the wealthy elite and aristos. His family are descended from a line of baronets. Eugenie married a fellow from her social milieu.

" Through the Earls of Leicester, the Brooksbank family is descended from both King Edward III and King James II.[4][5][6] Jack Brooksbank and Princess Eugenie are third cousins twice removed, both being descended from Thomas Coke, 2nd Earl of Leicester (1822–1909)"

A lovely photo of the bride.

They should have made Lady Louise wear a pair of bloomers.

R476 They had to fix her eye first. Teeth are next on the agenda I'm sure.

R478 Didn't know this. Jack must be a dull tool indeed. Not going to Eton when you have legacy means one thing...couldn't come close to passing the entrance exam.

Eugenie and Jack met in Verbier, Switzerland on a skiing holiday, that tells you right there they moved in the same set.

R481 Jack seems sweet, but his IQ may be even lower than Hazza's - Jack didn't even go to uni.

The bride and groom during the ceremony. I think Eugenie made a good decision about wearing no veil. A veil would have been lost in the heavy loads of fabric in the train.

R481 I imagine it’s frightfully expensive.

R485 Jack went to Stowe which is about $25,000/year

Stowe is as well regarded as Harrow or Eton and if you weren't a poser you would have never as posted otherwise.

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What is that woman"s fetish for shiny green dresses?

R488 - Who are you kidding? Are you trying to convince yourself or others?

I haven't seen Fergie look good for years. She's had bad cosmetic surgery, her skin looks like leather from too much sun. She drinks and eats too much which we all can see from her body shape.

R489 - the color green is one of the best colors for redheads.

R487 No it's not. Stowe would like to think it is and I'm sure the literature says so but it's not. Stowe doesn't produce PMs like Eton and Harrow and it doesn't churn out leaders in their fields like Eton and Harrow. But nice try.

And it's especially not as well regarded if your father is an Old Etonian.

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And Jack basically has a fancy pants equivalent of a HS diploma. A true member of the idle rich - vacationing across the world in between bartending; he is a great match for Eugenie who lives a similar lifestyle. And now they get a nice (free?) pad at KP.

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I was surprised and disappointed that Eugenie's godfather the very sexy and gorgeous James ogilvy son of Princess Alexandra was not there.

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Do the residents at KP have any common spaces where they mingle? A dining hall, perhaps. Or a gym or pool?

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I still find that photo disturbing, r498. Every single time I see it.

This wedding (through this thread) took my mind off politics for a few days. If only there could be more royal weddings while he is in the WH...

What I find disturbing is Queen Letizia's underweight body, R348.

Has anybody seen an actual of Camilla in the last week or so? Maybe she's in rehab or someplace scandalous for a Royal.? They all drink several times daily. I can't see how they don't get addicted.

I Love Sarah, Duchess of York. She has personality and pizzazz. and it's refreshing to see her so expressive at her daughter's wedding. Sarah looked beautiful at the wedding. I loved her dress and hat, very elegant.

Eugenie looked radiant. Loved the dress and tiara. Eugenie's dress was far more beautiful than either of the wedding dresses worn by Kate and Meghan.

Camilla not showing up was a disgrace. I read a while back that ironically Camilla and Sarah were friends or at least friendly, and Camilla has been often responsible for Sarah returning to the royal fold since she has wanted to bury the bad blood between Sarah and Charles. However, it appears that Camilla was embarrassed to appear since Sarah and Diana were lifelong friends, and Camilla is at the root of family animosity. Camilla should have risen above it all, been respectful to Sarah and Andrew and shown kindness toward Eugenie. Camilla being a no-show and appeared at an elementary school in Scotland was bullshit and could have been rescheduled no matter how long ago it was planned. Eugenie's wedding was announced in January. Camilla is a cunt. But I still love Sarah. Great to see her so happy at the wedding.

Next royal wedding: Sarah and Andrew remarry. It's gonna happen.

Who was the young woman Andrew went horse riding with this morning? To clear his head or some stupid headline.

I think Camilla's standing will be damaged by this. It doesn't pass the smell test, no matter what they said.

Something was definitely up with Camilla's absence from the wedding. She claims she was committed to visiting students at a school. The wedding date was known for 8 months, a date supposedly chosen after made after she made the commitment to the school. It's bull shit to think she couldn't have rescheduled a measly visit to a school for a wedding, especially with that much advance notice.

1. Sarah is a drunk with poor impulse control and little social awareness. She has been a constant source of embarrassment to her ex-husband, the RF and the UK. To wit: she is now a spokeswoman for a brand of "diet pizza and pasta".

2. Sarah looked grotesque at her daughter's wedding. Her dress and hat looked like a cheap Halloween costume.

3. Sarah and Diana had a huge, permanent falling out because Sarah revealed private information.

[quote][R481] Jack seems sweet, but his IQ may be even lower than Hazza's

The bottom of the scale stops at Hazza.

The DM has the best comments

"Eugenie should have said "b u g g er off you old bat, it's 2018", then Harry jumps up and starts breakdancing and Wills starts beatboxing because they are such modern young royals."

[quote]Who was the young woman Andrew went horse riding with this morning? To clear his head or some stupid headline.

Andrew is just milking the wedding and got his headline riding a horse on Windsor property. TTo show he is Upper Tier Royal doing upper tier activities like riding horses. And to show he is indeed very singe and not tied to the redhead.

If other members of the Royal Family can show up at the wedding then Camilla could have as well.

Why would she be scheduled months in advance but Anne (the busiest royal), Charles and Queen had nothing going on and were perfectly free to go? Everyone was in Scotland on vacation until very recently including Camilla. No, I think the school visit was hastily scheduled AFTER the wedding date was announced so she WOULD have an excuse NOT to attend. Yes, something smells.

The excuses her so-called "friend" made for her absence were laughable. "Fear of flying" is no excuse because she's accompanied Charles to many state visits all over the world. "The wedding has become too large and tacky" is hilarious. She attended Dimwit and Clingon's nuptials last June (long, boring and over-the-top) and her own untitled daughter had a large wedding and wore a tiara. The friend should have found better excuses for her.

I'm going to call it what it is: A BIG SNUB . The reason is unknown but it would probably have more to do with her attitude towards the mother and father of the bride rather than Eugenie herself or the size of her wedding.

Carole Middleton - MOB at Wils and Kate's wedding.

Note:

1. Well designed dress and matching coat for that "royal" dresss/coat look

2. Exquisite hat

3. Coiffed hair (no tendrils like Sarah yesterday)

4. No sweaty armpits (at least visible to cameras and media)

5. Subdued, stunning colour - not shiny EMERALD GREEN garish to show up one's red hair (me! me! me!)

6. No crazy hand waving, wide mouth laughs, and hugs with the press on the way into church

Leave Fergie alone!

Many of our expectations of Eugenie's wedding were low. I think she surprised with her dress, tiara and overall look. She really was stunning!

To the poster who insist referring to the Royal Family as RF, I keep reading that as Roger Federer.

How hard it is to type two words anyway.

The Duchess of Cambridge rocked.

The Duchess of Sussex sucked!

I liked the front of the dress but not the back so much. It just looked like too much material bunched up.

It's hasn't been mentioned before, but the makeup person did a great job with Eugenie's eyebrows, making the eyes more open without thinning the eyebrows.

R498 What does it say about the world when our precious cottage loaf topped Princess Royal must bend the knee to a pair from a monarchy younger than most of Her Majesty's handbags?

It's like we didn't even defeat the Armada.

[quote] our precious cottage loaf topped Princess Royal

The correct description is Yorkshire pudding coiffed Princess Royal.

Yorkshire puds are concave. THE Princess Royal's hair is convex. 'Tis a cottage loaf.

Surely our Jiffy Pop coiffed Princess Royal

Bitch stole my look and a few of my outfits. But it's OK, I know who'd win the knife fight.

I present a cottage loaf.

R523 - With the exception of General Franco's long tenure, the Bourbons of Spain have been around long before any Her Majesty's handbags were in existence.

And for my next piece of evidence

Yorkshire Pud. CLICK to see the dip.

Fergie Rocked Another Flawless Mother of the Bride Look at Princess Eugenie's Evening Reception

Harper's Bazaar had the best coverage of the royal. Every aspect of the wedding from the royal family to the wedding party and guest were covered is an extensive series of stories. You can read and click away to your royal heart's content.

R281- I don't know if that's the reason, but it did appear Kate was more more relaxed with her kids, she dressed better too, at this wedding. It could be that they were amongst their own and she felt more comfortable. That's another thing, the upper crust really do travel in their own circles. All of Harry's exes were there, the woman who Prince William had a crush on was there with her husband Sam Branson. Their kids willl all probably marry each other.

I was wondering why Bea wasn't wearing a more bridesmaidy dress like Pippa did? She also didn't help her sister at all with the train. I do feel bad for her since her ex married a few months ago after dumping her a couple of years earlier. Eugenia's husband is very handsome and they genuinely look in love.

Is Fergie so saggy because of sun damage, weight loss in middle age or what ?

Autumn Phillips's wedding dress. Simple but pretty.

R536 don't forget the cigarettes and booze. It's a combo that caused the bad aging.

I really do hope so [R506] I'd love Andrew and Sarah or Fergie to remarry. I mean their practically like a married couple in most regards anyway.

Zara Tindall's. Not a fan of this one, personally.

The blind items about whatshername’s “pregnancy” have officially dropped! Here’s Enty:

“For those who say she isn't with child because she is scheduled to go on a Pacific tour, the rumor is that she isn't going. The buzz I'm hearing is that only the male royal is going. The reason is because there is a risk of Zika virus infection in that part of the world in pregnant women. If she's indeed pregnant they'll have to announce it as the reason she's not doing the tour. Lots of money and time have been spent on logistics and planning on this tour to include them both, so if she pulls out it's going to result in a lot of wasted money. Apparently they were specifically asked not to try to get preggo before this tour... it'll be interesting to see how this shakes out. If she goes then it's just rumor and nothing else...”

R497 James Ogilvie was there - he walked down to St George’s Chapel with The Princes Royal and her husband Timothy Laurence.

Camilla's wedding dress. Fits quite well with her patented "wicked queen from a fairy tale" vibe.

OT for this thread, but if MM is knocked up (and I doubt it) and plans on sitting out this tour instead of just skipping the Zika hot spots, that would be a massive fuck up on her part at a time when she is already on very thin ice. She loves the attention too much to miss out. And if she is indeed up the duff, and announces she is going anyway, she may earn some SO BRAVE! SO DUTIFUL! points, at least in her head.

Eugenie is a star. Bea's wedding will be even bigger and better. Love those girls. They get slammed, but they walk a fine line between being blood princesses and being junior royals. Say what you will about about Sarah and Andrew, but they did a good job bringing up their daughters. They should have a higher profile in the royal family. Kate and William don't seem like they ever want to do anything. And Meghan, really? No one cares. But with Bea and Eug, there is never a scandal with either of them. They seem genuinely very nice, polite and gracious in any interview I've seen. And they're willing to be out there for royal duties,

Cheers [R542] do we know if James Ogilvy's handsome son Alex was with him too? His daughter Flora posted a picture of her mother in America so I assumed they hadn't gone?

“The Duchess is quite a down-to-earth person".

A down-to-earth person wouldn't pursue & marry the heir to the throne of England.

Camilla on casual Friday.

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Letizia Ortiz Rocasolano is no Bourbon, and the daughter of Elizabeth II, second of her name, should not be prostrating herself in front of this anorectic, s/p abortioned whore.

It does look a bit like Sparkle is losing patience with Dim. I am no sugar but I can't blame her in this regard--though it is the reality she clawed, I mean signed up, for.

Zara Tindall and Autumn Kelly's dresses were both off the peg (rack.). Kelly's cost 2000L.

Was Eugenie wearing a bunch of fake hair? Does she have enough hair to support that chignon?

Yes Eugenie was wearing a wiglet. I for one hope the make a sensational comeback. We lack glamour as a society these days.

For non-wedding related bits and pieces about the BRF that don't merit or already have their own thread, here you go!

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Wow, that IS thin. That picture is a good example of how much weight she lost between whenever that was taken and the wedding. Good job Yuge.

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Still curious about QEII's swollen left leg and ankle at R267. She didn't seem to have it a Prince Harry's wedding in May. What type of a condition would cause edema in one leg but not the other? Is it part of the normal aging process?

R471 Your bizarre fixation on Prince Harry and his wife and the irrational hatred has resulted in you getting your facts mixed up. Eugenie was not scheduled to get married before Harry. She changed her original September date to October because William, Harry and others were scheduled to be out of the country.

FWIW I looked at her legs in other photographs and I didn't see anything that one looked bigger than the other. I think it was just the angle in that shot.

It could be just an odd angle r557 but I was indeed struck by how much older HM seemed all of the sudden.

I like Prince Charles but I think the thing that's best for the monarchy would be for him to die before his mother so that the next King will be William. He and Kate have young children growing up in Buckingham Palace just like the Queen did when she first became queen. Charles does not want to live in Buckingham Palace but to make Windsor Castle their home. That is bad for the monarchy. They need to be in London and be seen about town.

Interesting point R561 You should post it over yonder.

Where are they going on their honeymoon? Surprised that still has not been confirmed.

Demi Moore's hair is two feet too long. Unless she is about to play Morticia Good God.

She does seem very much more stooped lately but she's really old.

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Holy shit. Phil is literally right next to Fergie in that snap and he not only declined to drop dead, he even managed a bit of a smile!

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I like much about the dress but it does seem like she's off to the super heroine's ball.

Actual body type.

Here's the video of the exchange mentioned at R139:

So in my state the Big Big weddings are like 500k. I wonder how much her wedding cost taking out the cost of security?

Part 3 here. Nice to see Yuge get so much love.

Fergie lying to little kids now, r571. "YES, I'M A PRINCESS!"

Fergie forgot to add:

1. Repeat financial problems

2. Forcing me to live with my ex-husband

3. Husband is a minor royal and I am not really a Princess but a Duchess. I just held onto my acquired title by marriage.

4. Royal Family can't stand me

5. Royal Family doesn't speak to me

Fergie saying blah blah blah.........

LOL, R574, but it's rather a lot with which to burden a confused child from America.

R568 It's those broad shoulders. I like that gown. Another excellent job at taming her tits.

Did they airbrush the waist into that pic of Eugenie in the Grecian-type gown or she just heavily corseted. Lip readers caught Beatrice commenting to her mother that she's wearing a corset.

[quote]LOL, [R574], but it's rather a lot with which to burden a confused child from America.

Not the point, r575.

I think DM photoshopped Yuge's head onto tennis champion Angelique Kerber;s body.

For Christ's sake, please stop going on and on about the queen's leg.

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It's the DL foot fetish troll, r580.

What's wrong with being curious about a possible medical condition the Queen may have?

I wonder if Fergie and Bea purposely chose their dress colors to co-ordinate with the sashes on the flower girls dresses? If so, it makes for nice pictures.

I'm sure they did R584.

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Something about R574's post really tickled me. I now have the mental image of Fergie getting sozzled and spilling out her life story to little Theodora at the reception.

If those Emerald and Diamonds are real in the that Tiara it could be worth Ten million dollars. Or more.

Meghan has managed to make Harry look completely ill at ease with himself within 5 only months of marriage. He looks a nervous wreck!

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The exchange between Fergie and the little flower girl was cute.

Harry should keep that hair shorter.

I think Harry should just shave it all off. Don't do it half assed. Just go for it. That bald patch is spreading by the day. I remember when for the longest time Wills insisted on keeping this weird hair clot in a sea of baldness until finally someone got through to him. It looks better now, but sometimes the clot creeps back in. The Linus look only looks good on Linus.

Why didn't the designers make a detachable train for the bride's gown? Is it considered too gauche? Having to drag it around for the entire reception, stuffing it between chairs and under or around the table, then cramming it into the Aston Martin must have been, well, a drag. It's a small miracle nobody tripped over it.

R588 - Wouldn't emeralds of that quality be worth a lot more than 10M alone? The central emerald is 94 karats. (Elizabeth Taylor's famous emerald which was less than a third its size went for $6.5M over 10 years ago) Never mind the the other four emeralds and diamonds or the historic significance) Sadly, in today's world the only people who would want or afford such an expensive bauble are acquisitive Russian oligarchs or Saudis.

This was an interesting documentary. It damn well should have been upconverted to HD, though. "The Royal Jewels."

Not a gaudy wedding but she is wearing 25 million in rocks and extremely long haired Demi Moore is running around like a yacht girl.

Stealing that tiara at a royal wedding would make a good heist movie.

I can't believe we are almost on a third thread. Who knew? This has turned out to be far more fun than I had thought it would be.

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I wonder if Demi hooked up with Prince Andrew.

The Libyan businessman gave his daughter Princess Beatrice a diamond necklace for her 21st birthday two years ago.

The businessman, Tarek Kaituni, who is now a US citizen, has convictions for possession of drugs – for which he served a prison sentence in 1998 – and attempting to smuggle a sub-machine gun into France.

He was a guest at Beatrice's birthday party at a private villa near Marbella, during which he was photographed with the prince sitting at the same table.

[quote]I wonder if Demi hooked up with Prince Andrew.

Is she under 16 years?

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R551- Autumn Kelly's dress was bespoke and done by Sassi Holford, it was no "off the peg" dress. Here is a quote from Holford, "She was very self-assured about what she wanted." The dress according to Holford was based on a "wish list" of detailed the bride to be had compiled herself. Holford, btw, was known for her "proper English wedding dresses". If you think this dress was "off the peg" I suggest you go back to HELLO's coverage of it and take a look at the all the details in back and the weight of the duchesse satin.

The Queen leant her a quite lovely diamond tiara. You don't wear on of the Queen's tiaras whilst marrying the Queen's first grandchild, in a dress by Sassi Holford that's "off the peg".