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American Horror Story: Apocalypse - Part Three

Continued from prior thread

by Anonymousreply 3238 hours ago

Can someone please clearly explain what was presented this week in episode 5? I’m completely confused and on the verge of not giving a shit.

by Anonymousreply 110/11/2018

R1. Have you.seen any other episodes or been following the stories. It is hard to explain one episode when it includes seven years of character and plot twists.

by Anonymousreply 210/11/2018

It would help if you explain what you are confused about r1.

In a nutshell, this is what you needed to take from this episode.

Cordelia has vision of apocalyptic future.

Cordelia allows Michael to do 7 wonders.

Cheyenne Jackson goes to warn Cordelia about Michael. He is murdered by head warlock, Kathy Bates and Michael.

Michael easily passes 7 wonders and rescues Misty from hell for Cordelia.

We find out Cordelia already has suspicions about Michael, she just wanted to see how powerful he was and get Misty back.

Cordelia sends Madison to Murder House to investigate Michael's backstory.

by Anonymousreply 310/11/2018

Also to join in on the best season talk from the end of the last thread, "Asylum" is the best for me. And among the core fanbase of the show "Asylum" is most favored season, it generally tops those polls. Coven is the pop culture favorite, definitely the shows "biggest" season.

by Anonymousreply 410/11/2018

Coven had the nicest set though. I loved that house.

by Anonymousreply 510/11/2018

What was the point of having Stevie Nicks show up to sing? And what is the deal with her and Misty?

by Anonymousreply 610/11/2018

If you didn't see "Coven" you wouldn't know. Nicks is a "white witch" who Misty was obsessed with.

by Anonymousreply 710/11/2018

Plus she had an even more embarrassing cameo in Coven where she croaked out "7 Wonders" while the Coven girls were preparing to do their test.

by Anonymousreply 810/11/2018

The Stevie Nicks embarrassment was the worst thing I've ever seen, and I've watched AHS from the beginning.

by Anonymousreply 910/11/2018

My ranking:

1. Season one, which wasn’t called murder house when it aired. It was mysterious and playful and creepy and stylish.

2. Asylum. Genuinely disturbing. The nutso, meandering plot annoyed me though.

3. This one because I don’t hate it.

4. Coven because it was good until the witches started dying but not being dead, which ruined it.

5. Roanoke—watched a few episodes and it didn’t hold my interest.

6. Freak show—too much gross-out shit. Stopped watching halfway through the season.

7. Cult—Paulson’s screaming made me turn off the first episode. Annoying, not scary at all.

8. Hotel—Turned off the first episode during an unscary but sickening rape scene.

9, 10, 11, 12–were there others? I think I tried every season and all after coven were unwatchable.

Horror as a genre rarely scares me. And I don’t like any stories without good...stories. The title of the series is misleading. American? OK. Horror? Rarely. Story? Hardly ever.

by Anonymousreply 1010/11/2018

[quote]American? OK. Horror? Rarely. Story? Hardly ever.

Okay, I chuckled you bitch.

by Anonymousreply 1110/11/2018

The real question, will the show somehow contrive Dylan McDermott to be naked in his appearance next Wednesday?

It would be silly, but appropriate since he spent half of Murder House naked. It is one of the calling cards of that season.

by Anonymousreply 1210/11/2018

I actually like this season.

by Anonymousreply 1310/11/2018

[quote] Can someone please clearly explain what was presented this week in episode 5?

Sarah Poulson had a vision of the coven school in New Orleans after the atomic blast. Everyone was dead, and she was being eaten alive by zombies while a mysterious figure watched.

Then she wakes up. It's still a few months before the nuclear war. Emma Roberts' bitchy character has been brought back from the dead by MIchael Langdon, and Poulson is so impressed she tells the warlocks she is ready to give Langdon the new test of the Seven Wonders to see if he really is the new Supreme. She reveals to Frances Conroy her powers are fading and that her body is weirdly turning into a metallic crystalline substance.

Cheyenne Jackson is furious Michael Langdon is being given this chance. He has a big fight with Billy Porter and rushes off to check on something about Michael he hopes to find out of town. At the gas station he is killed by Kathy Bates, who first gains his confidence and then ambushes him, cutting his throat and then dousing him with gasoline and setting him on fire. We find she is in cahoots with the head Filipino warlock, who was not going to let Jackson blow their coven's chance to have the first male Supreme. We also find out Michael put Kathy Bates up to this murder.

Michael passes the Seven Wonders with flying colors. For his last test he must go to hell and bring back Lily Rabe, who was last seen forced to spend eternity dissecting frigs in her high school science class (which she hated to do more than anything). Mchael goes to hell and instead dissects Lily's science teacher, and brings her back to Earth, reconstituting her body from dust. Michael is tagged to be the next Supreme.

Sarah Poulson explains to the other witches she has no intention of letting Michael become the next Supreme; she only gave him the test to find the extent of his powers, which are incredible. Misty says she wishes she had not been brought back from hell because Michael is pure evil. For no clear reason, Stevie Nicks is brought in by Poulson to croak out a song of inspiration to Lily Rabe. She proceeds to bore the entire viewing audience blind for several minutes by doing so., even though she does look great for her advanced age

Poulson has a new plan to combat Michael. Emma Roberts must go to Los Angeles to find out the place where he is from: the Murder House from season One. Emma Roberts asks Poulson if she is afraid Roberts's real sympathies are with Michael since he brought her back from hell, but Poulson responds Roberts' only loyalty is ever with Roberts herself. Billy Porter will go with her to Los Angeles.

Gabourey Sidibe is in many scenes involving the witches, for no clear reason--she has practically no lines. Cody Fern continues to look pretty as Michael but to impress no one with his acting. We also find out Coco the bitchy rich girl from the first three episodes this season had been a student at the New Orleans coven school before the atomic explosion because she has the mysterious magic ability to tell if a food contains gluten, which she downplays but which Poulson says is important because it means she can sense danger.

by Anonymousreply 1410/11/2018

R14, thank you for explaining. The back and forth time shifts are what I find confusing this season.

by Anonymousreply 1510/11/2018

The Witches showed up to confront Michael on Halloween after the "apocalypse", everything since that moment is a flashblack explaining how we get to that point. Eventually we will return to that scene.

C'mon man, this is AHS, not Ulysses. It's not that dense.

by Anonymousreply 1610/11/2018

If I'm correct, there has been exactly 1 time shift this season. From Halloween night to 3 months before the blast.

by Anonymousreply 1710/11/2018

I think this stuff with a young Michael meeting the Witches/Warlocks has to be more than 3 months before the blast, but I wasn't paying attention if there was anything that gave it a firm date.

by Anonymousreply 1810/11/2018

I'm guessing Michael killed Constance at Murder House, that's why she'll be 'stuck' there. They have to bring Vivien and whathisname into the picture, since they're also guesting. The set up might be Michael going to Murder House to visit his 'parents' or something. At any rate, it's fun to speculate. I'm always wrong.

by Anonymousreply 1910/11/2018

[quote]Gabourey Sidibe is in many scenes involving the witches, for no clear reason--she has practically no lines.

If she wasn't there R14, then people would be wondering where the hell she was. It's not like they could say she was in the bathroom all episode.

She's also still currently on another TV series, "Empire" on Fox. Based upon Ryan Murphy's and her own Instagram she's popping back and forth between both sets working on both shows. So they probably will give her little to do and have her disappear at some point for a while.

[quote] The set up might be Michael going to Murder House to visit his 'parents' or something. At any rate, it's fun to speculate. I'm always wrong.

Constance warned Dr. Harmon that Michael must never return to Murder House back in their season after he was born. Madison and Billy Porter are going there next episode.

I wonder if at some point this "warning" will come into play, especially since the other side of Michael's "soul" is still in the house as Vivian's baby who died.

by Anonymousreply 2010/11/2018

I’ll just wait til next year. American Horror Story: Grand Maul Seizure

by Anonymousreply 2110/11/2018

I don't know why,but I like Michael's silent giggle during the 7 Wonders montage. And I like the relationship between Michael and Kathy Bates' character.

by Anonymousreply 2210/12/2018

I like when Madison said, "You know I'm not the hugging type, right?" and Cordelia responded, "Tough shit!" Madison had this cute little smile on her face.

by Anonymousreply 2310/12/2018

I guess I am the only one who liked Cody's performance. Apparently I know nothing about acting.

by Anonymousreply 2410/12/2018

I like his performance, too r24

by Anonymousreply 2510/12/2018

This may be a stupid question but when Madison and the other guy meet Billie Dean, wouldn't they be like 'Are you Cordelia's twin sister?' . That's why I think it is stupid to connect the storylines from different seasons, each one should be in a totally different world. Not to mention the different forms of magic and beliefs from different cultures could not exist and be real in the same universe.

by Anonymousreply 2610/12/2018

R26, it's a good question because it so rarely happens.

We know from Hotel they don't look alike to them in the same universe.

Queenie from AHS: Coven was on AHS: Hotel and ran into Iris, Ramona, March and Liz Taylor but she didn't think they looked like Delphine, Marie, Kyle or Spaulding.

by Anonymousreply 2710/12/2018

Especially Cordelia and Billie Dean since the only difference between them is hair length and maybe a slight shade difference in hair color.

by Anonymousreply 2810/12/2018

Will Constance be a ghost next week?

by Anonymousreply 2910/12/2018

Myrtle: Time and time again history has shown the hubris of men knows no bounds. Have we learned nothing from Attila the Hun, Herod the Great, MARK ZUCKERBERG?

by Anonymousreply 3010/12/2018

I'd rather that they'd send Taissa Fermiga back to murder house instead of Emma Roberts but I guess that Taissa has to play Violet and couldn't do double duty. Emma's bitchy girl act (I realize that it's consistent with her character) has gotten boring.

by Anonymousreply 3110/12/2018

It had to be Emma Roberts, because all the other witches are either played by actresses who've been in Murder House (Lily Rabe, for example) or cannot be seen by Michael (Billie Lourd, Leslie Grossmann) or else he would've recognized them right away when he arrived at the bunker.

by Anonymousreply 3210/12/2018

That's certainly one thing they continue to do R32.

They killed Ms. Meade right before Cordelia arrived and if Billie Dean is coming back next episode Cordelia can't be in the same location as her or else

by Anonymousreply 3310/12/2018

r33....It was Ms. Veneble, not Ms. Meade. Ms. Meade is the android.

by Anonymousreply 3410/12/2018

R34 …… oh I'm so fucking sorry I can't keep track of 900 fucking characters in multiple seasons played by the same actors over and over again

by Anonymousreply 3510/12/2018

The scene described by R30 made me truly laugh out loud. I love that character and how Frances Conroy plays her. That line was hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 3610/12/2018

I didn't watch Coven so a lot of this makes no sense, it keeps jumping around so.

by Anonymousreply 3710/12/2018

[quote]Are you really asking why Cheyenne would come back [R566]? He is happy to do whatever Murphy wants, this is by far the biggest thing going in his career.

He's a working actor, why would you think he could just turn down work at a whim?

by Anonymousreply 3810/12/2018

Some of us actually enjoyed Stevie. And she wasn't there for nothing, she was there to comfort Misty who just got out of Hell.

by Anonymousreply 3910/12/2018

“How come Billie Dean and Cordelia have the same baby lisp?”

by Anonymousreply 4010/12/2018

Gabourey Sidibe is there to show off her weight loss.

by Anonymousreply 4110/12/2018

Shes still overweight but it's great that Sidibe lost the weight that she has. I'm sure her health has improved.

by Anonymousreply 4210/12/2018

Yeah hopefully she keeps it off. It's progress that she is "normal" fat now, instead absurdly fat.

by Anonymousreply 4310/12/2018

Whatever happened to Patti LuPone's hot son, Luke, from Coven?

by Anonymousreply 4410/12/2018

Pati smothered him with a pillow in the hospital, so he wouldn't snitch on her for killing his father.

by Anonymousreply 4510/13/2018

As if Patti could ever give birth to a hot and sexy son.

by Anonymousreply 4610/13/2018

I'm rooting for Team Michael. These witches all ended up in hell and derive their power from the dark side. It is about time that gay warlocks Trump cunty women.

Yes that Nick's cameo was so corny. I'm surprised that Murphy hasn't asked NeNe to make a cameo yet....

by Anonymousreply 4710/13/2018

I just can't get past how bad/campy it is. They're throwing so much shit into it, forcing everything. Stevie Nicks showing up and singing made me want to bury my head in the sofa, it was so bad and beneath her, so painfully cheesy. Not even campy in a funny way.

Is this the final season? Are they attempting to be campy and just missing it? The queen playing the supreme warlock may have been good on the Versace series, but he's absurd here. Even every scene Kathy Bates is in is cringe-worthy.

What am I missing? I usually love it. Is it me just not getting it?

by Anonymousreply 4810/13/2018

35 has stated his boundaries

by Anonymousreply 4910/13/2018

[quote]It is about time that gay warlocks Trump cunty women.

You're soooooooooooo gay.

by Anonymousreply 5010/13/2018

Gabourey Sidibe always looks so greasy

by Anonymousreply 5110/13/2018

A fan theory suggests Constance is a witch with limited powers. She had the ability to see things, and apparently mentioned at the end of S1 that she's related to the DeLongpre family. There's also the question of why none of the ghosts in Murder House never touched her, especially when some would have wanted to take revenge on her (ex husband, Moria). Everyone else who owned the house was murdered. The question, though, is why she couldn't use her visions or powers to save Tate or Addie.

by Anonymousreply 5210/13/2018

Also, the fact that she can see and interact with the ghosts in the house.

by Anonymousreply 5310/13/2018

Stevie's AHS performance of "Gypsy" is incredible!!!!!!!

BEAUTIFUL!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 5410/13/2018

Wait, R47-I thought Nene is playing the warlock that goes to Murder House with Madison-am I wrong?

by Anonymousreply 5510/13/2018

Yeah, I don't mind Cody's acting. I don't think it's the worst I've ever seen on this show - surely, it's better than Gaga's, and she won a bloody award.

by Anonymousreply 5610/13/2018

The worst thing about this season is that you seem to need an encyclopaedic knowledge of previous seasons to have a clue what's going on. Just a teeny bit of exposition wouldn't go amiss.

by Anonymousreply 5710/13/2018

Good point.

by Anonymousreply 5810/13/2018

Evan is my favorite.

by Anonymousreply 5910/13/2018

American Horror Story: Ryan Murphy.

by Anonymousreply 6010/13/2018

R52 Very good theory. I always felt she was psychic and before Lange requested that Sarah Paulson be written a part in season 1, I always imagined Billie Dean Howard having been developed from/given some of Constance's scenes/psychic ability.

by Anonymousreply 6110/13/2018

I loved this week's episode. My favorite in a long while.

by Anonymousreply 6210/13/2018

r52..."perceiving things" is not the same as seeing into the future.

by Anonymousreply 6310/13/2018

[quote]different forms of magic and beliefs from different cultures could not exist and be real in the same universe.

Why not? Don't Voodoo, charismatic Christianity, and Taoism all exist together on one planet?

by Anonymousreply 6410/13/2018

R63 - 'limited' powers. Online fans were giving examples - one was when she mentioned to Ben something about digging up the yard, building a gazebo and him and Vivien having coffee on it. She either had a vision, or maybe placed the idea in his head. Same with when Ben was sleepwalking and who was there - Constance. She may have had a vision of what was going to happen, or maybe was casting some spell. It might be nothing - again - just a bunch of fan theories - nothing to get uptight about. I guess we'll see this Wednesday.

by Anonymousreply 6510/13/2018

I totally believe that r52....I was just stating that maybe her powers are limited to just perceiving supernatural entities and thats it. The other possibility is that Michael killed her in the house and shes trapped there also....I think shes just visiting the house and the occupants like she always does.

by Anonymousreply 6610/13/2018

Does anyone know Cody Fern is gay or bi?

by Anonymousreply 6710/13/2018

On the show I think he is whatever works for his character r67 In "real life" I'm 99.99 percent sure he is gay. But what does it really matter?

by Anonymousreply 6810/14/2018

Cody's not gay, but his boyfriend sure is.

by Anonymousreply 6910/14/2018

Still can't believe Cody is a top.. His boyfriend is a TOTAL bottom, he probably masturbates by shoving things up his butt

by Anonymousreply 7010/14/2018

If Constance was able to see in the future she wouldn't have had the mongoloid.

by Anonymousreply 7110/14/2018

When Cordelia stated that she had all her girls back, I thought about Nan. Though Papa Legba took her to a place with others like her, Cordelia never considered her one of her girls.

by Anonymousreply 7210/14/2018

Nan was never accepted because of her disability.

by Anonymousreply 7310/14/2018

Oh dear. R67 is new here.

by Anonymousreply 7410/14/2018

Every new male actor on this show performs The Seven Wonders. The ceremony is always being held at Ryan Murphy's house.

by Anonymousreply 7510/14/2018

Who is "Nan"...?

by Anonymousreply 7610/14/2018

I wonder if Cody’s hole is as hairy as his brother’s is. I think I found his bf’s Grindr profile. Says he’s a top. Would explain things.

by Anonymousreply 7710/14/2018

r77

show us

by Anonymousreply 7810/14/2018

Who is Cody's brother? Can't find his name anywhere.

by Anonymousreply 7910/14/2018

What the fuck? Who is Cody's brother? Show us his pics, his grindr, his social media and his hairy hole. ASAP!

by Anonymousreply 8010/14/2018

He was talked about a lot in the Versace threads. I don't have the links offhand.

by Anonymousreply 8110/14/2018

Why is Precious there when she was killed at the hotel?

by Anonymousreply 8210/14/2018

Why is r82 confused about something that was very clearly depicted in the show?

by Anonymousreply 8310/14/2018

The biggest logic error for me in the last episode was the big deal they made about changing up the 7th Wonder where Michael was asked to go to hell and retrieve Misty. Um, he just did it with Emma Roberts' character, idiots... He could have just shown the receipts.

by Anonymousreply 8410/14/2018

R83, I think he just wanted to refer to her as “Precious” for some reason.

by Anonymousreply 8510/14/2018

Well Madison died normally r84, Misty died as part of the Descensum test. They said during Coven if you die during descensum you can't be resurrected, which is why Misty wasn't brought like so many other characters were that season.

by Anonymousreply 8610/14/2018

Thanks [r86]. I missed that.

by Anonymousreply 8710/14/2018

But we didn't see Michael's hell (biggest fear) which he had to overcome first before he was able to rescue Misty, right?

by Anonymousreply 8810/14/2018

True, we never saw Michael overcoming his hell. Though would he even be given a hell? I mean his "father" is Satan.

by Anonymousreply 8910/14/2018

I thought show was portraying that Michael just went down there and found Misty in hers. He's the antichrist so hell would be welcoming to him.

by Anonymousreply 9010/14/2018

He didn't have to overcome his personal hell. Cordelia said to him :"I'm not asking you to perform, I'm asking you to conquer it."

by Anonymousreply 9110/14/2018

Cody’s Brother.

by Anonymousreply 9210/14/2018

For real r92? Ew!

by Anonymousreply 9310/14/2018

Mmmm... I would toss his salad.

by Anonymousreply 9410/14/2018

There are so many characters here and I miss watching the other series. Who is Constance? I don't mind this season. I like Cody Fern's acting and he is perfect for this role as his eyes are a very striking, like headlights.

It's funny how all the men in the future are gay except for that one young guy. How are they supposed to procreate? It takes more than one fuck to make a woman pregnant.

by Anonymousreply 9510/14/2018

Constance was Jessica Lange's character from Murder House.

This season was promoted as a crossover between Coven and Murder House. If you never saw the past seasons you knew you wouldn't understand everything that is going on.

by Anonymousreply 9610/14/2018

They kind of dropped the two kids who were supposed to procreate storyline. Fine by me as both of them were total duds with zero chemistry. Didn't they get killed off?

by Anonymousreply 9710/14/2018

Yeah they are dead r97, everyone was poisoned. They might get revived at some point, who knows, right now we are still in flashback time.

by Anonymousreply 9810/14/2018

The episode this week is 55 minutes without commercials, about 15 minutes longer than their normal episodes.

by Anonymousreply 9910/14/2018

Hope they bring back this JGL/Josh Harnett looking hottie. And somehoe make him fuck Evan Peters.

by Anonymousreply 10010/14/2018

I never saw both Coven and Murder House but i'm still able to follow the storyline so far. i guess its because i got convinced but most that the writers are just making story as they go along. lol.

by Anonymousreply 10110/14/2018

I rewatched Coven recently and Madison's hell was described differently. I forget what it was, but she wasn't a retail clerk. But Queenie's hell was the same. Why would they change one and keep the other?

by Anonymousreply 10210/14/2018

Madison died twice. Was her hell the same both times? And if she had already been to hell and back, wouldn't she change her ways to avoid going back?

by Anonymousreply 10310/14/2018

That was Madison's personal hell when she performed Descensum during The Seven Wonders. Her actual hell after death is different.

by Anonymousreply 10410/14/2018

[quote]I rewatched Coven recently and Madison's hell was described differently. I forget what it was, but she wasn't a retail clerk.

R102, The first time Madison died she went to a cold, dark, place. She didn't go to hell. It's the same place Kyle went when he died. No one knows what that is but Donovan, in his season, died outside of the hotel and his spirit told his mother that he was in a happy place. Wherever he went is not the same place they went but none of them went to hell.

The second time she "died" during the Seven Wonders she went to her own personal hell during Descensum. She did that under her own power. That hell just repeats over and over again.

The third time she died "naturally" (not under her own power) and went to another kind of hell.

[quote]But Queenie's hell was the same. Why would they change one and keep the other?

The first time Queenie died was after fucking the Minotaur. She didn't mention going to hell. Fiona used Vitalum Vitalis and brought her back.

The second time Queenie died when she was shot by the witch hunters and she didn't go to hell. She used Resurgence and brought herself back.

The third time Queenie died it was because she used Descensum , she did it on purpose to talk to Papa Legba but came back to her body. That was her personal hell.

Then fourth time Queenie used Descensum was during the Seven Wonders and again visited her personal hell but got out rather quickly because she'd done it before.

Then the fifth time Queenie died, she did it in the Cortez so her spirit just stayed there.

[italic]The difference seems to be that if you die naturally, you can possibly go to a good place, go to hell (which doesn't seem to repeat) or not go anywhere. If you use Descensum, you'll always go to your own personal hell no matter what kind of person you are because the purpose of your spell is to send yourself there. Regular hell doesn't seem to do that.[/italic]

by Anonymousreply 10510/14/2018

Thank you so much to those who takes the time to explain things for those of us who missed Coven. Otherwise I know I would be utterly lost. But now I can actually understand and enjoy this season.

by Anonymousreply 10610/14/2018

R84.. In Coven, when Madison killed Misty by putting her in a coffin and then having her sealed in the crypt, Queenie was able to bring her back using Vitalum Vitalis. But later... when doing the Seven Wonders, Queenie was disqualified because she couldn't bring Zoe back. It makes no sense to me either, but at least Ryan Murphy and company are being consistent in whatever rules there are.

by Anonymousreply 10710/14/2018

R83 R85 because I haven’t watched it yet, dumbasses.

by Anonymousreply 10810/14/2018

So reading a thread on AHS makes total sense, R108.

by Anonymousreply 10910/14/2018

THANK YOU R109 ! Fucking hell r108 who is the dumbass here?

by Anonymousreply 11010/14/2018

[quote]But later... when doing the Seven Wonders, Queenie was disqualified because she couldn't bring Zoe back. It makes no sense to me either, but at least Ryan Murphy and company are being consistent in whatever rules there are.

R107, they did explain it in the show.

During times of crisis a witch's powers can spike or they could suddenly demonstrate other witch powers. During the season they all randomly gained powers outside of their normal powerset as the season went on and things got crazier.

That's why Queenie could bring Misty back earlier but couldn't bring Zoe back later on or why Cordelia couldn't heal her eyes when she was blinded earlier but could at the end of the season when she had to step up and become Supreme.

The Seven Wonders was about showing who could do it on the spot. So it didn't matter if the witches could do something before, they had to be able to do it during the test.

by Anonymousreply 11110/14/2018

[quote]'American Horror Story’ Star Cheyenne Jackson on Jessica Lange’s Return: ‘She’s the Queen’

[quote]Get ready for Jessica Lange‘s return to “American Horror Story.”

[quote]“Next week Jessica Lange comes back, and that was very exciting for all of us. People that weren’t even in the scenes were just dropping by and watching the master at work,” “AHS” actor Cheyenne Jackson told Variety at Saturday’s Point Awards at the Beverly Hilton Hotel. “She’s the queen.”

Damn, Jessica Lange is still considered the Queen of AHS nearly four years after her departure. Her powah! This episode might just end up garnering the show it's highest ratings since her exit.

Hopefully, they've done right by Constance Langdon (and Fiona Goode) or it won't be a pretty look come Wednesday night/Thursday morning.

by Anonymousreply 11210/14/2018

R110 Its a ridiculous fucking show and the witch season was unwatchable. I couldn’t imagine seriously talking about it like you pumpkin spice latte queens are. You should just answer the fucking question as to why gabby fatass isn’t a spirit at the hotel. I did watch that one. What else you need to say. Little bitch.

by Anonymousreply 11310/14/2018

Hotel and Roanoake are good. Cult sucked. Any man that liked Coven season is a total flame. Total. It was ALL fish.

by Anonymousreply 11410/14/2018

Dying from fucking a Minotaur is pretty fucking funny, though.

by Anonymousreply 11510/14/2018

Coven will always be the best season. It was LIT.

by Anonymousreply 11610/14/2018

This sounds too complicated, like Ryan Murphy makes up these "rules" as he goes along. I never got into AHS, I'm only watching Apocalypse because I'm bored and Cody Fern is beautiful.

by Anonymousreply 11710/14/2018

R117 He makes the rules every fucking season, none of i makes any real sense and plot holes are huge, but more trouble is you wanting to fuck Fern Gully, that slut has zero talent for acting but obviously can suck a mean dick

by Anonymousreply 11810/14/2018

How long has Fern been away from Australia? His accent isn't very strong.

by Anonymousreply 11910/14/2018

Such nastiness.

by Anonymousreply 12010/14/2018

[quote]The second time Queenie died when she was shot by the witch hunters and she didn't go to hell. She used Resurgence and brought herself back.

I thought she blew her brains out to kill the witch hunter and being the human voodoo she is, she just healed right up instantaneously after it was done.

by Anonymousreply 12110/14/2018

[quote]I thought she blew her brains out to kill the witch hunter and being the human voodoo she is, she just healed right up instantaneously after it was done.

Her power only works if she's focusing on who she wants to hurt first. She got shot before that by Hank when she wasn't focusing on him. So he didn't take that damage, she did.

She then figured, what the hell, focused on Hank as a last ditch attempt to stop him and blew her own brains out. It worked. That would have healed, the wound wouldn't have.

The next time we see her she's healed and pissed at Marie because she left her body there. Marie responds that she thought she was dead so she split.

That spawned this GIF which was everywhere that year.

by Anonymousreply 122Last Monday at 1:52 AM

Season finale is being filmed at the moment. They'll be done with the filming by the end of the last week.

by Anonymousreply 123Last Monday at 4:28 AM

[quote] How long has Fern been away from Australia? His accent isn't very strong.

You must be hearing impaired.

by Anonymousreply 124Last Monday at 8:03 AM

You all know the reason Stevie Nicks keeps coming back is because Misty is the baby she aborted after Don Henley got her pregnant.

by Anonymousreply 125Last Monday at 8:45 AM

Only 10 episodes r123, weird to think we are halfway done with the season.

by Anonymousreply 126Last Monday at 3:34 PM

I've seen Jessica's dailies online last month. Her speech is going to blow your heads off!

by Anonymousreply 127Last Tuesday at 7:40 AM

Sure r127, I’ll play along... because if it’s as amazing as everything else scripted this season... lmao.

by Anonymousreply 128Last Tuesday at 7:43 AM

You saw them online r127, but somehow nobody else has ?

by Anonymousreply 129Last Tuesday at 7:44 AM

To close out a question upthread, Nan was one of the witches in Coven... and in her powers hardly disabled.

by Anonymousreply 130Last Tuesday at 8:23 AM

Is this going to be another fake feminism/gender inequality season like Cult?

by Anonymousreply 131Last Tuesday at 9:19 AM

Still annoyed Nan wasn't brought back. She was pretty powerful. She could read minds which could've been a huge advantage for the Witches if she was revived. She had other powers too. She made Patti Lupone kill herself by drinking bleach.

by Anonymousreply 132Last Tuesday at 9:36 AM

Someone for reasons I don't know started a whole nother thread about this, but Jessica Lange was spotted filming today. So it seems she will appear in the finale as well.

by Anonymousreply 133Last Tuesday at 4:18 PM

R133 because It's the most important thing about this shitshow.

by Anonymousreply 134Last Tuesday at 4:20 PM

It is inevitable there has to be time travel to fix the Apocalypse from happening, probably prevent Michael from ever being born. Considering "it is all connected" it is the only way the universe works.

I'm guessing her scene in the finale is connected to that.

by Anonymousreply 135Last Tuesday at 4:24 PM

She should have come back as Fionna in the finale.....That would have been perfect.

by Anonymousreply 136Last Tuesday at 4:51 PM

R136 Yeah, but instead they'll probably throw in a 10 Sarah Paulson character because, you know, the world is screaming for more of that.

by Anonymousreply 137Last Tuesday at 5:05 PM

I know it’s not the current season, but I’ve been watching episodes of “Coven” and “Asylum,” and Lily Rabe really is the most underrated of the AHS stable. I like Sarah Paulson more than most, but Rabe could have done wonders with some of her lead roles.

(And because of DL, I will always think of how we made her name into a verb in “Asylum.”)

by Anonymousreply 138Last Tuesday at 7:13 PM

I also am a Lily Rabe fan. She's who I remember most often from the Asylum season.

by Anonymousreply 139Last Tuesday at 7:25 PM

Asylum also had James Cromwell and Joseph Fiennes, neither one ever returned after that season.

It was a stacked cast.

by Anonymousreply 140Last Tuesday at 7:30 PM

[quote]Still annoyed Nan wasn't brought back. She was pretty powerful. She could read minds which could've been a huge advantage for the Witches if she was revived. She had other powers too. She made Patti Lupone kill herself by drinking bleach.

It makes sense that she wasn't brought back even beyond the idea that she could read Michael's mind would have meant he could have never gotten that close to the witches in the first place.

Besides the fact that she is in a happy place because she was "mostly" innocent, Michael probably couldn't go toe-to-toe with Papa Legba to get her.

Finally, her last words before leaving the series were clear so it's unlikely she'd even want to come back.

by Anonymousreply 141Last Tuesday at 7:41 PM

I don’t think James Cromwell liked working on the show, and Fiennes had a nothing role (and I think he was first billed!) so it’s no surprise he didn’t return either.

R141, Jamie Brewer is coming back this season. I assume it’s as Nan, but I do know Brewer has filmed for the show.

by Anonymousreply 142Last Tuesday at 7:46 PM

James Cromwell won an Emmy for his role on AHS....Im sure hes gotten over it.

by Anonymousreply 143Last Tuesday at 8:21 PM

What time tomorrow is the episode going to be available on FX+?

by Anonymousreply 144Last Tuesday at 8:49 PM

I just want Jessica Lange to come back as Fiona Goode don’t give a shit about anything else really.

Does anyone think the Apocalypse storyline will derail this season? Those freak creatures from the blasts I bet will become centerpieces to the season. And the season will unravel into silliness. What the fuck was the point of Coco’s husband coming back and killing her.

by Anonymousreply 145Last Tuesday at 8:59 PM

Rumor is, FX seriously wants Lange in lead next year. . Nothing worked out or solidified yet.

This and whatever other episode Lange appears in may not be available before it airs because of reasons.

by Anonymousreply 146Last Wednesday at 1:05 AM

Episode 6 is reportedly up.

by Anonymousreply 147Last Wednesday at 2:06 AM

[quote]What time tomorrow is the episode going to be available on FX+?

I believe episodes are released at 3am EST.

by Anonymousreply 148Last Wednesday at 3:56 AM

This show needs more Billy Eichner

by Anonymousreply 149Last Wednesday at 4:13 AM

omfg. Constance is everything.

by Anonymousreply 150Last Wednesday at 4:31 AM

"I'm Constance Langdon and this is my fucking house."

by Anonymousreply 151Last Wednesday at 4:34 AM

I ahted episode 6. Constance was the best thing about it.

by Anonymousreply 152Last Wednesday at 5:44 AM

You ahted it?

by Anonymousreply 153Last Wednesday at 5:46 AM

Queen is back to being STUNNING.

by Anonymousreply 154Last Wednesday at 6:06 AM

At least Moira got her happy ennding, she can rest. Violet and Tate got back together thanks to Madison. Constance is probably happy spending eternity with her kids.Billie Dean Howard is such a useless character. Cody was especially annoying in this one. Ugh. But Paulson did a wonderful job directing this episode, maybe that's her true calling.

by Anonymousreply 155Last Wednesday at 6:54 AM

....yes, please spoil the damn episode for everyone r155. Ugh.

And Violet and Tate apparently reuniting is terrible fan service that ruins the whole point of their season 1 arc. It was all about turning the bad boy with a heart of gold cliche on its head, having Violet realize Tate is a terrible person and she deserves better. It was a good job by Murphy.

by Anonymousreply 156Last Wednesday at 7:00 AM

Oh cut the crap and get back to Evan Peters naked ass. Thank you.

by Anonymousreply 157Last Wednesday at 7:40 AM

Is Constance dead or alive ?

by Anonymousreply 158Last Wednesday at 8:16 AM

She dead

by Anonymousreply 159Last Wednesday at 8:52 AM

Constance killed herself in the house to get away from Michael Langdon.

by Anonymousreply 160Last Wednesday at 9:03 AM

Ryan Murphy Tweet today...

Ryan Murphy ‏Verified account @MrRPMurphy 4h4 hours ago

The entire cast of AMERICAN HORROR STORY will be tweeting along LIVE with tonight's RETURN TO MURDER HOUSE episode to support the directorial debut of the one and only Ms Sarah Paulson. Join us and support our Supreme! #AHSApocalypse

by Anonymousreply 161Last Wednesday at 11:49 AM

I dropped out when this became Coven Redux.

Is it still that way or have all the bitchy witchies mercifully been exterminated?

by Anonymousreply 162Last Wednesday at 12:02 PM

[quote]Jamie Brewer is coming back this season. I assume it’s as Nan, but I do know Brewer has filmed for the show.

R142, I heard that too a long time ago. Since we know they do return to Murder House at some point again in the future even after this episode - it could easily be as Addie (especially if there is time travel involved.) There is another reason why it might be her and not Nan but I don't want to spoil this week's episode.

[quote]It was all about turning the bad boy with a heart of gold cliche on its head, having Violet realize Tate is a terrible person and she deserves better. It was a good job by Murphy.

They explain that in this week's episode R156 or rather they ... you'll just have to watch the episode.

by Anonymousreply 163Last Wednesday at 12:13 PM

Does Dylan get naked?

Is Constance a witch?

Is Madison related to Charles and Nora? I'm assuming no Infantata since the actor is dead.

by Anonymousreply 164Last Wednesday at 12:52 PM

Addie died OFF the property....so she cant be a ghost. Remember, Constance tried to drag her onto the property so she would still be there, but she died before they got there.

by Anonymousreply 165Last Wednesday at 12:57 PM

Not to mention Billie Dean channeled Addie and thanked her for not getting her back on the property to make her a ghost since she was terrified of Tate now, that in death, she knew the truth.

by Anonymousreply 166Last Wednesday at 1:13 PM

They will have to destroy the house at the end of this episode or at least the end of the season, right? I want to see Emma Roberts get thrown through a wall.

by Anonymousreply 167Last Wednesday at 3:40 PM

Constance is BACK!

by Anonymousreply 168Last Wednesday at 5:41 PM

[quote]Addie died OFF the property....so she cant be a ghost.

Why would she be a ghost if the episode took place before she died since the show is about stopping the Anti-Christ, her nephew?

We know that wasn't Jessica's only episode.

It's just telling they pretend as if Nan didn't exist but Addie caught a very specific mention explaining who she was.

by Anonymousreply 169Last Wednesday at 5:45 PM

Dousing all the AHS queens emphatically shrieking Lange would *ONLY* be in one ep as if they knew it for a fact with copious gasoline. Burn, Balenciaga, burn!

by Anonymousreply 170Last Wednesday at 5:50 PM

Huh r170? People were just passing on what was said.

by Anonymousreply 171Last Wednesday at 5:52 PM

Nobody *BUT* the AHS queens were saying Lange would only be in one ep. Paulson merely said Lange's first appearance was in Episode Six and they ran for a touchdown and decried that she would absolutely not be in any more every time anyone else posited that perhaps she would be doing more than that. Read the first two threads, R171. Either way, huzzah! The baddest witch is back.

by Anonymousreply 172Last Wednesday at 5:55 PM

Fiona is back???

by Anonymousreply 173Last Wednesday at 5:57 PM

Tearjerker

Oof

by Anonymousreply 174Last Wednesday at 6:14 PM

"I'm going upstairs and masterbate like I do every fucking night". Snap!

by Anonymousreply 175Last Wednesday at 6:18 PM

[quot]Fiona is back???

As far as we know, Jessica Lange has only filmed as Constance. But who knows, there could be a surprise in the season.

by Anonymousreply 176Last Wednesday at 6:21 PM

YEAH!

by Anonymousreply 177Last Wednesday at 6:21 PM

[quote]"I'm going upstairs and masterbate like I do every fucking night". Snap!

Bringing back Dylan McDermott masturbate-crying from the pilot of this series. It was a thing he did once, not an addiction, but I don't mind the fanservice in that case.

by Anonymousreply 178Last Wednesday at 6:23 PM

I can't even enjoy hate watching it anymore. This show is just garbage.

by Anonymousreply 179Last Wednesday at 6:24 PM

It's glorious watching real pros.

by Anonymousreply 180Last Wednesday at 6:25 PM

Yet you will still be here every episode, for every season to come r179.

by Anonymousreply 181Last Wednesday at 6:26 PM

Paulson's doing a great job directing

by Anonymousreply 182Last Wednesday at 6:29 PM

So how did the Supreme blood get in McDermott's and his wife baby? Was it an immaculate conception?

by Anonymousreply 183Last Wednesday at 6:45 PM

It was Tate, not McDermott, and Connie Nielsen who conceived Michael r183. And Tate was dead and it should have been impossible for him to have a kid. Thus the "miracle" of Michael's birth, rather than an immaculate conception he was born from death.

And he is not actually a witch, he just has devil power, surely you have picked up on this.

by Anonymousreply 184Last Wednesday at 6:50 PM

So, as none of the uber fans have been coming here to jism, safe to assume the episode was OK, but not earth shattering?

by Anonymousreply 185Last Wednesday at 6:52 PM

I watched it earlier r185, it is a perfectly nice ep. It was of course great to see Jessica Lange and one moment in particular she reminds you why she is an acting legend, but the episode as a whole was nothing amazing to me. And Constance features less than you might think.

by Anonymousreply 186Last Wednesday at 6:57 PM

R186 No, i presumed she would be in it fuck all.

by Anonymousreply 187Last Wednesday at 6:59 PM

I will say I thought Cody Fern did his best work of the season in this ep. He seemed more comfortable digging in, probably since Michael was more of a three dimensional character when he was this young, rather than EVIL!!!11!

by Anonymousreply 188Last Wednesday at 7:00 PM

The Harmons are still at each others throats?

by Anonymousreply 189Last Wednesday at 7:00 PM

Pepper!

by Anonymousreply 190Last Wednesday at 7:06 PM

You can see how fat Cody Fern is in that suit. Boy needs to hit a gym. Geez.

by Anonymousreply 191Last Wednesday at 7:10 PM

And when is the last time you were as "fat" as Cody Fern? 1996?

by Anonymousreply 192Last Wednesday at 7:14 PM

Did Sarah Paulson make these awful music choices?

by Anonymousreply 193Last Wednesday at 7:15 PM

Loved the episode. Enjoy the interaction between Emma Roberts and Billy Porter and how they played therapists to the ghosts. Also loved the return of Jessica Lange. Hopefully the last 4 episodes are spectacular seeing as how we've spent the first 3 episodes with a mostly dummy cast, and the next 3 episodes doing an amazing, but very long flashback.

Naomi Grossman's character for some reason reminded me of a satanic Liza Minelli.

by Anonymousreply 194Last Wednesday at 7:23 PM

Who did Grossman play?

by Anonymousreply 195Last Wednesday at 7:24 PM

I'm so confused about the timeline.

by Anonymousreply 196Last Wednesday at 7:26 PM

This episode was perfection! Finally, after all the shitty years since Freakshow.

by Anonymousreply 197Last Wednesday at 7:29 PM

Constance's mysterious "4th" child was a son with albinism whose scenes were completely deleted from the 1st season and yet he's been ret-conned into an eyeless Jon-Benet Ramsey.

by Anonymousreply 198Last Wednesday at 7:39 PM

It's not a retcon when that character was never actually in the show, we never met Constance's 4th child til this ep r198.

by Anonymousreply 199Last Wednesday at 7:41 PM

I don't think that was Constance's fourth child - just a child who died in the house that she sort of 'adopted'.

by Anonymousreply 200Last Wednesday at 7:45 PM

The two weakest moments in the episode were the Black Dahlia cameo and the Anton LaVey subplot. As it is, the show asks a lot of its viewers to keep up with all its in-series mythology, so bringing in the Murphified versions of those two real (deceased) people just seemed like clutter and better left to the likes of "American Crime Story." (The Dahlia storyline was handled better on "Murder House.")

Tonight, watching Michael cutting the Dahlia a smile, I thought: are we in a Batman movie now?

And anyway, LaVeyan Satanism doesn't venerate the devil, so including the whole "I am the Black Pope and I faked my death to usher the Antichrist" bit about the fictional LaVey just made it seem like the writer (Crystal Liu) was going for a quick, clever real-world connection. It pulled me out of an episode that was up to that point a nicely paced reunion with the "Murder House" revenants. Kathy Bates remains the best thing on the show. Who needs Anton LaVey when you have a Satanist Mater Magna cum android?

by Anonymousreply 201Last Wednesday at 7:47 PM

This is without a doubt the best season of AHS ever. Ryan Murphy outdid himself with Apocalypse.

Sarah Brightman is getting the Emmy next year.

by Anonymousreply 202Last Wednesday at 7:52 PM

I thought the most pointless cameo was Billie Dean r201.

by Anonymousreply 203Last Wednesday at 7:53 PM

Forgot about that, r203. Couldn't they at least do something to differentiate the characters? Give Billie Dean a Myrtle wig or something?

by Anonymousreply 204Last Wednesday at 7:58 PM

This is the second show about a haunted house I’ve watched this week - both ruined with a happy ending. 🤢

by Anonymousreply 205Last Wednesday at 8:00 PM

The Tate/Violet reunion was incredibly forced and unnecessary r205.

How do you have the beautiful "I was born to be a mother" writing and that plotlines writing in the same episode. Oh AHS.

by Anonymousreply 206Last Wednesday at 8:04 PM

[quote] This is without a doubt the best season of AHS ever. Ryan Murphy outdid himself with Apocalypse.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

by Anonymousreply 207Last Wednesday at 8:07 PM

The Tate/Violet ending was a gift to the fans...a lot of fraus hated that they were apart at the end of Murder House.

by Anonymousreply 208Last Wednesday at 8:07 PM

I was surprised Lily Rabe did not reprise Nora Montgomery. She seemed like she should have been in this ep.

by Anonymousreply 209Last Wednesday at 8:15 PM

Hmmmm....Papa Legba is back next week....possibly Nan coming back ?....or Fionna ?

by Anonymousreply 210Last Wednesday at 8:21 PM

r209.....Good point....her husband the Dr wasnt in the episode either, although Billie Dean knew who Madison was and that said she knew several Montgomerys.

by Anonymousreply 211Last Wednesday at 8:23 PM

[quote]Who did Grossman play

The dark, short-haired woman with Anton LaVey.

[quote]I'm so confused about the timeline.

We're still in flashbacks, pre- Apocalypse. The show has to get back to the timeline when Madison, et al woke up their "sisters".

by Anonymousreply 212Last Wednesday at 8:58 PM

Did Constance utter any racist lingo?

by Anonymousreply 213Last Wednesday at 9:07 PM

J proved TV can be a viable medium for actresses of a certain age with the mettle to make it work. Anticipating our Emmy wins next year. She is my favorite performer, after all (sorry G).

by Anonymousreply 214Last Wednesday at 10:36 PM

The CGI in these episodes is embarrassing. It's like animated GIFs, or lulz...flash.

by Anonymousreply 215Last Wednesday at 11:39 PM

[quote]The Tate/Violet reunion was incredibly forced and unnecessary

I agree but they did set up the reasoning well enough so that I guess it makes some sense.

I can believe that: Tate's not evil but was troubled, he's getting counseling and improving, he didn't father Michael & the "House" was making everything in it do bad things but stopped after the baby was born.

I can believe that Tate saving Vivian from complete destruction at the hands of Michael, thus leading Violet to talk to him after not doing so for years is possible.

I just don't get them making out at the end as if he wasn't a mass murderer before he died but I guess she deserved a chance to be happy in death because they're still stuck there?

[quote]Hmmmm....Papa Legba is back next week....possibly Nan coming back ?....or Fionna ?

The preview for next week had a tiny laugh at the end. It could be Nan, Fiona or no one we know at all. Then again it could be from 3 episodes from now or not in the episode at all. Who the hell knows anymore?

by Anonymousreply 216Last Wednesday at 11:47 PM

im only there for cody and evan

the bitches are starting to wear my nerves...

by Anonymousreply 217Last Thursday at 12:23 AM

The 15-minute Jessica Lange monologue...Zzzzzz. I know people here want any excuse to put her on the show, and that qualifies as “any excuse.”

And what are we supposed to think when Paulson plays two roles, one as the queen of witches and one as a realtor, and both look and sound alike but characters supposedly see one as their boss and can’t even recognize the barest resemblance between the two?

Some of the shit on this show could be so easy to resolve by doing one thing: make it about the story and not about worship of your favorite actors. Good God.

by Anonymousreply 218Last Thursday at 1:10 AM

[quote]Hmmmm....Papa Legba is back next week....possibly Nan coming back ?....or Fionna ?

More like Cordelia selling her soul for immortality.

by Anonymousreply 219Last Thursday at 1:14 AM

Loved the pan across Fern’s sweaty ass lying on the bed. He looked ripe for plowing.

by Anonymousreply 220Last Thursday at 1:15 AM

That close-up on Connie Britton was a little Kellyanne Conwayish.

by Anonymousreply 221Last Thursday at 1:20 AM

The first episode of the season was “The End.” After that, all thr survivors died on Halloween night. Then came:

-Three witches (did they die during the course of the series?)

-Madison (from hell, dead)

-Gabourey (from hell hotel, dead)

-Warlocks, pre-apocalypse (alive?)

-Murder house people (all dead)

Seems like just about everyone is dead. Which makes sense given the apocalypse setting. Is the whole post-apocalypse scenario just a more expansive hell that will end with “The End” again? Is this all just leading up to explain how the nukes came to be—orchestrated by Michael Langdon or perhaps in an effort to exterminate him from Earth?

by Anonymousreply 222Last Thursday at 1:26 AM

Missed opportunity:

Madison bitchiness vs. Hayden cuntiness

by Anonymousreply 223Last Thursday at 1:26 AM

I thought the episode was great.

I wonder if Madison's little good deed in the end is going to have some kind of future benefit, or if it was just done to make the fans happy.

I wonder what the story is with Jamie (Nan / Adelaide) - maybe she couldn't come back for some reason. On other boards, she has a big fan base and people liked her characters. They brought everyone else back.

I wonder if these two are even going to make it back to Cordelia at all.

by Anonymousreply 224Last Thursday at 1:33 AM

Ok I don't know why I started 3 consecutive sentences with "I wonder" - i am up way too late.

by Anonymousreply 225Last Thursday at 1:34 AM

So the boring multi racial couple with the chemistry of a roach motel in the first couple of episodes ended up being worth nothing to the show? Good?

by Anonymousreply 226Last Thursday at 1:36 AM

Is this show supposed to be actually scary? The satanic cult people wearing black and red Halloween capes is just so silly. I think gay men are creative and great at a lot of things, but the team behind this show makes me feel like they’re just way too whimsical and fabulously flamboyant to make anything truly horrific. They do grotesque, violent, etc., but it never has any gravitas. Is that by design or is this the best they can do?

by Anonymousreply 227Last Thursday at 1:36 AM

Taissa Farmiga looks 35. It was uncomfortable watch her pretending to be 15 years old.

by Anonymousreply 228Last Thursday at 1:45 AM

R202 You are so right, that was amazing TV, it just changed the face of TV now it was so inventive.

And for direction, Sarah Polley is totally winning An Emmy, AMAZING DIRECTION

by Anonymousreply 229Last Thursday at 3:40 AM

[quote]The 15-minute Jessica Lange monologue...Zzzzzz.

The woman could read a menu and make it riveting. Isn't there a Kardashian marathon somewhere you might enjoy better?

by Anonymousreply 230Last Thursday at 3:42 AM

[quote]And what are we supposed to think when Paulson plays two roles, one as the queen of witches and one as a realtor, and both look and sound alike but characters supposedly see one as their boss and can’t even recognize the barest resemblance between the two?

You're supposed to suspend disbelief and pretend that they are two different people. It is done all the time in theater, and actors like Peter Sellers, Alec Guinness, Mike Myers, etc., have all played multiple characters in a single movie. Use your imagination. Also, Billie Dean Howard is a psychic medium, not a realtor.

by Anonymousreply 231Last Thursday at 3:52 AM

R231 They could at least change her GD hair color or something to differentiate them.

by Anonymousreply 232Last Thursday at 3:55 AM

I hope they really fuck with everyone's mind and have Lana Winters cover the ELE.

by Anonymousreply 233Last Thursday at 3:58 AM

Evan Peters has been doing the best with playing multiple roles this season.

by Anonymousreply 234Last Thursday at 4:01 AM

R231 HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH you dumb cunt, like American Horror Story is vaguely comparable to 'Dr Strangelove' or 'Kind Hearts and Coronets'.

by Anonymousreply 235Last Thursday at 4:08 AM

"...actors like Peter Sellers, Alec Guinness, Mike Myers, etc."

A "one of these things is not like the others" phrase if I've ever seen one!

by Anonymousreply 236Last Thursday at 4:20 AM

To the point that historic figures should be relegated to American Crime Story, this show preceded it and the reason it was called *American* Horror Story in the first place is that the concept was to weave together real-life horrors from US history into a series. After season two, AHS abandoned the “horror” part, substituting it with fantasy or grotesque-but-not-scary imagery. After season three, AHS abandoned the “story” part, mostly just patching together gross-out and weird vignettes into long, incoherent messes. This season has the American and the story parts, so it’s better than its own average. The horrors for me mostly have fallen flat. They try way too hard for “clever” and it completely takes me out of ever being in the moment so that I can get frightened or disturbed. Instead I watch thinking, oh, another bitchy witch joke, oh another gay joke, oh, here comes a “clever twist” on a horror trope. Oh, look, a cameo.

I think there’s a reason most memorable horror movies star (at the time of the movies’ releases) mostly unknown actors. This show is one big calculation about how actors can be repurposed for their amusement and the amusement of the producers.

by Anonymousreply 237Last Thursday at 4:35 AM

Wow. People really can't tell the difference between Venable, Cordelia and Billie Dean Howard? I guess I must be some sort of genius!

by Anonymousreply 238Last Thursday at 4:59 AM

I know, R238. Billie Dean has messier blonde hair, while Cordelia has smoother blonde hair with a side flip.

by Anonymousreply 239Last Thursday at 5:01 AM

Dylan’s face looked sort of lumpy.

by Anonymousreply 240Last Thursday at 5:14 AM

Dylan McDermott is 56, he is no spring chicken. He still looks great for his age.

by Anonymousreply 241Last Thursday at 5:49 AM

[quote]Dylan McDermott is 56, he is no spring chicken. He still looks great for his age.

He looks better than fortysomething Cheyenne Jackson.

by Anonymousreply 242Last Thursday at 6:09 AM

The person who is so confused about the timeline (there has been literally one time jump from Halloween til a couple years beforehand when everyone was meeting Michael) should maybe stick to Real Housewives.

by Anonymousreply 243Last Thursday at 6:41 AM

R205 Was it The Haunting Of Hill House? If so, I agree, that ending was the worst.

by Anonymousreply 244Last Thursday at 8:16 AM

[quote] It was of course great to see Jessica Lange and one moment in particular she reminds you why she is an acting legend, but the episode as a whole was nothing amazing to me

[quote] The 15-minute Jessica Lange monologue...Zzzzzz

[quote] it seem like the writer (Crystal Liu) was going for a quick, clever real-world connection. It pulled me out of an episode that was up to that point a nicely paced reunion with the "Murder House" revenants

I think it all has to do with this writer. She really sucks, and she clearly doesn't know how to write for the likes of Jessica Lange. EVERYTHING felt so forced.

Given the amount of acting talent contained in this episode, and bringing back so many characters from season one, this episode could have been EPIC. Instead, it was underwhelming.

It was basically a re-tread of their characters from season one, and it brought nothing new to the table. Their characters should have evolved as "ghosts" trapped in a house, but instead it was Jessica drinking Crown Royal and whining about Michael. It was Dylan gratuitously jerking off, and Evan and Taissa still moping about the house.

It also seemed like she went for this dumb "redemption" storyline for the characters. All of a sudden, Tate is a "good guy," and Constance is a "loving mother." Neither of them were those things!

Constance was a mean, bitch! And Tate was a mass murderer. To blame it all on the house as an "evil portal" which influenced Tate's behavior, was insulting.

A GOOD writer would have wrote the hell out of Jessica and Connie Britton reprising their roles, but instead, this writer (Liu), made them boring as hell. Jessica's monologue in particular, put me to sleep. Literally.

I agree that it was so fun to see all the characters back, but the writer didn't do them justice.

by Anonymousreply 245Last Thursday at 10:01 AM

I'm enjoying this season, but in retrospect the first few episodes now seem particularly pointless.

by Anonymousreply 246Last Thursday at 11:44 AM

This season is a complete mess.

by Anonymousreply 247Last Thursday at 11:54 AM

I loved last night's episode just because Murder House is my favorite of the series. We'll see where it goes with this one. It's at least entertaining this season.

by Anonymousreply 248Last Thursday at 12:05 PM

I agree. Sara Gilbert was phenomenal.

by Anonymousreply 249Last Thursday at 12:16 PM

For a dead woman/un-dead woman/ghost, Vivian has fabulous hair.

by Anonymousreply 250Last Thursday at 12:18 PM

Which one was she, R249? The whothefuckevenwasit eyeless girl?

by Anonymousreply 251Last Thursday at 12:23 PM

What the fuck is the point of this season???

by Anonymousreply 252Last Thursday at 12:37 PM

I'm going out on a limb here, but I think it might be about stopping the antichrist r252....

by Anonymousreply 253Last Thursday at 12:42 PM

Joan Collins, Papa Legba and Jamie Brewer alias Nan are appearing in the next episode ;)

by Anonymousreply 254Last Thursday at 12:50 PM

[quote]What the fuck is the point of this season???

Entertainment doesn't have to have a point, it just needs to be fabulous and last night episode certainly was.

by Anonymousreply 255Last Thursday at 2:42 PM

Can someone refresh my memory?

What happened to Constance's daughter Addie & why wasn't she why her like the other children?? Thanks

by Anonymousreply 256Last Thursday at 5:25 PM

Correction-

Why wasn't she with her like the other children?

by Anonymousreply 257Last Thursday at 5:27 PM

R256 Run over, died off site so did not become a ghost, and Tate scared her. The character, not his acting

by Anonymousreply 258Last Thursday at 5:27 PM

R179 Eat my shit, cunt.

I do like seeing discussions about it, I'm just getting fed up with trying to find any of it any good.

So go fuck yourself with a demon drill.

by Anonymousreply 259Last Thursday at 5:32 PM

R255 The typical American, and why we have Barnum as Prez.

by Anonymousreply 260Last Thursday at 5:33 PM

What struck me is how much older Connie, Dylan and Frances look since that first season.

by Anonymousreply 261Last Thursday at 6:36 PM

R262, the wacky wigs don’t help them look younger. Tate looked like a very very old teenager.

by Anonymousreply 262Last Thursday at 6:47 PM

Farmiga definitely looked the most like her 2011 self, but that might just be because her blankness lends her a certain ageless quality. They did the best they could to make Peters seem to not have aged, but I think his performance helped allow some suspension of disbelief. He still could project Tate’s adolescent nature, in contrast to Fern, who never pulled off the magical man-child thing they asked of him.

I don’t think the producers cared that much about making sure the “Murder House” actors looked close to their 2011 versions, possibly because it would have made for some uncomfortable conversations with the older stars.

by Anonymousreply 263Last Thursday at 7:25 PM

I hope they bring Angela Basset back to stir things up.

by Anonymousreply 264Last Thursday at 8:38 PM

[quote]....Good point....her husband the Dr wasnt in the episode either, although Billie Dean knew who Madison was and that said she knew several Montgomerys.'

Yeah, the dialogue indicated Madison was supposed to be related to the Montgomeries who built Murder House, but if that is the case why not do more with it. I guess there was a lot to cram into one episode already.

by Anonymousreply 265Last Thursday at 9:54 PM

Clearly Madison and/or her actress is intended to lead further into the show's seasons, so Montgomerie material will be stretched further. This episode closed off a lot (specifically the main Murder House family) but still left bits to play with later.

by Anonymousreply 266Last Thursday at 10:23 PM

[quote]What happened to Constance's daughter Addie & why wasn't she why her like the other children?? Thanks

She was hit by a car Trick or Treating in a "Pretty Girl" mask and Constance pulled her off the property so she wouldn't be trapped there.

by Anonymousreply 267Last Friday at 1:28 AM

r267

it's been a while since I've seen season 1 but I thought Constance was trying to pull her onto the property so she would still be able to see her like she did with Tate

by Anonymousreply 268Last Friday at 1:35 AM

R239 Say what you want about Meryl Streep, but when she plays multiple roles, each one of them is an entirely different person. Paulson doesn’t even bother to change her wig.

by Anonymousreply 269Last Friday at 2:08 AM

This episode just proves what shit writing the show has, and shit directing.

It's almost as if the characters played by Lange, McDermott and Britton were doing the show strictly as a favor to Ryan Murphy.

There was no energy or passion behind their performances. It was almost lifeless.

In fact, the only one who seemed to be giving 100% in his acting, was Evan Peters. He always gives 100%, no matter what the role.

I find it sad that he has never won an Emmy for this show, because he certainly deserves one.

by Anonymousreply 270Last Friday at 2:12 AM

Really, R267-you waited 9 hours to reply to a question that was answered almost as soon as it was asked and then you got it wrong. SAD!

by Anonymousreply 271Last Friday at 2:34 AM

So let me get this straight-Tate "rescues" Vivian by pushing her out of the fire and Michael, the fucking Antichrist, pretty much says "fuck it then, I won't destroy either one of them". RRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT. And I'd like a list of the 36 KNOWN deaths in the house (that would be known by the realtor), because many of the deaths/characters we've seen either had bodies never found or weren't known to have died in the house (Hayden/Moira/Black Dahlia/Boy Dahlia). In fact, in season 1, the only deaths mentioned by the realtor were the 2 gay guys. So, in the 7 years since then there have been 34 deaths to occur in the house that were known, even though the only bodies to be found in the house since that time would be Violet, Ben Vivian their baby and the 2 home intruders killed on the property. And, a big point was made in the final episode that Ben/Viv/Violet were going to scare off any buyers. Three's Company made more of an effort to follow storylines from season to season.

by Anonymousreply 272Last Friday at 2:48 AM

That's what threw me off too, R272.

The Harmons ended season one as a happy family unit, and then in this most recent episode, they were all over the place and Ben said to Vivian, "are we talking now?"

That made no sense.

by Anonymousreply 273Last Friday at 2:52 AM

They tried to cover that by having Vivian being all pissy because Ben was trying to break through to Michael even though she knew he was evil. Weak, I know, R273, but there it is.

by Anonymousreply 274Last Friday at 2:58 AM

Oh, and I think the exterminator (the one who found Violet) died at the house too, so one presumes his corpse was found. Still way off.

by Anonymousreply 275Last Friday at 3:07 AM

Adina Porter as the warlock is this season’s best transformation.

by Anonymousreply 276Last Friday at 3:08 AM

Adina's pathetic acting returns next week.

by Anonymousreply 277Last Friday at 3:30 AM

Well, luckily we've been treated to Billy Porter's high octane queening for the last two weeks to tide us over. Talk about horror!

by Anonymousreply 278Last Friday at 5:03 AM

This week felt like pandering to the fans. For that, it was well done but I hate when shows do that. Walking Dead and even the Downton Abbey finale did it. The show loses any artistic credibility when it starts shaping itself around what they think the mob of fans want instead of what makes sense.

by Anonymousreply 279Last Friday at 5:35 AM

I like this season but it does scream fan service.

by Anonymousreply 280Last Friday at 5:42 AM

R270 Cheyenne Jackson posted on Instagram that the episode was Paulson’s directorial debut...

by Anonymousreply 281Last Friday at 6:57 AM

[quote]The Harmons ended season one as a happy family unit, and then in this most recent episode, they were all over the place and Ben said to Vivian, "are we talking now?"

They kind of glossed over their problems for the closing season 1 scenes. It would be pretty believable that after time they would be having issues again. The marriage had a lot of problems that living as ghosts would not magically disappear. How were they at the end of the episode?

by Anonymousreply 282Last Friday at 7:01 AM

[quote] the episode was Paulson’s directorial debut...

Well, that would explain it.

Wah, wah.

by Anonymousreply 283Last Friday at 8:30 AM

To me the high expectation hype made the episode almost a miss for me. Loved the Frances Conroy part with her and her mother walking hand in hand into the mist.

Jessica Lange was nice, but overhyped.

Fan service be damned. Tell me a story with rough edges and challenges. And lots and lots of camp.

by Anonymousreply 284Last Friday at 8:51 AM

Did anyone else notice what Madison said about a former Supreme’s family that died on the property and that they should talk to them first? It’s odd that that was even brought up now as it never was before. Did this former Supreme create the Hellmouth that traps everyone there? Did she sacrifice her family with dark magic to ensure she would become the Supreme of her generation? It just seemed odd to mention it if it means nothing although that is common for this show.

by Anonymousreply 285Last Friday at 9:38 AM

Nice Damian shoutout at the satanic ritual.

by Anonymousreply 286Last Friday at 9:52 AM

You misheard the dialog r285, she was talking about how Michael's family died on the property.

by Anonymousreply 287Last Friday at 10:32 AM

As for the 36, didn't the abortionist in the basement have a lot? They also clearly said that you won't see a ghost if they don't want to be seen.

by Anonymousreply 288Last Friday at 4:56 PM

I don't remember the Doctor having a lot of victims, unless you wanna get into unborn babies, but that's an argument for another thread. Secondly-the realtor really doesn't have to mention murders that occurred DECADES before selling the house, even if he was aware of them.

by Anonymousreply 289Last Friday at 5:01 PM

[quote]And I'd like a list of the 36 KNOWN deaths in the house (that would be known by the realtor), because many of the deaths/characters we've seen either had bodies never found or weren't known to have died in the house (Hayden/Moira/Black Dahlia/Boy Dahlia).

Nora and Charles Montgomery died in the Murder House. As did Tate, Violet, Ben and Vivien, Lorraine Harvey and her two daughters, the nurses, the two intruders, the redhead twins Troy and Bryan, Chad and Patrick, the Pest Exterminator, Derrick (the guy afraid of the Piggyman), the lesbian couple... that's besides Moira, Hugo, Hayden, Travis, Beauregard, the Infantata (reanimated), and the Black Dahlia, whose Murder House deaths were probably not known by the public.

by Anonymousreply 290Last Friday at 5:20 PM

R289 Well, Murphy is a practicing Catholic. Re"unborn babies".

by Anonymousreply 291Last Friday at 6:30 PM

Who's Adina Porter supposed to be? Marie Laveau's previously unknown sister?

by Anonymousreply 292Last Friday at 7:41 PM

The biggest clue as to whats going to happen is Mallory and her power to not only raise the dead and cure their injuries, she regenerates them by essentially turning back time biologically.

by Anonymousreply 293Last Friday at 8:11 PM

Not even close to 36, R290, and Derrick (the piggyman guy) did not die in the murder house-he was shot by a burglar in his own bathroom.

by Anonymousreply 294Last Friday at 9:00 PM

Umm, R290 named roughly 30 people who died in Murder House. Obviously, there are a few more we do not know about (yet). Thank you for doing all that for us!

Where's your list, cunt at R294? Peanut gallery, peanut brain. Thanks for your correction, I guess... but, no.

by Anonymousreply 295Last Friday at 9:39 PM

So, all powerful Michael couldn't make Constance's ghost visible to him (even when she doesn't want to) in the demon (murder) house that gave him life and his demonic powers? Uh, okay.

by Anonymousreply 296Last Friday at 9:44 PM

You're still missing the point, R295, but I guess calling me a cunt makes you superior.

by Anonymousreply 297Last Friday at 10:53 PM

R296 Most of his powers comes from being some conduit for Satan or somesuch. The episode was full of bits of how he can be almost human when not taking that role, but the killing urge is totally overwhelming at times and when he learns any smallest bit of his destiny he typically embraces it.

I'm sure at the past-current point in the timeline (being a 'Supreme'), Michael could do anything to any ghost.

by Anonymousreply 298Last Friday at 11:15 PM

Watching grown adults seriously discuss this series is hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 299Yesterday at 5:41 AM

I would like to see a supernatural post-apocalyptic scenario like this done in a more serious way. It could be interesting. So far the timeline is: End of world via nukes; survivors in a nuclear bunker for 18 months; devil comes along, everyone dies on Halloween night; witches appear to revive a few of them.

“Apocalypse” means “unveiling” or “revelation,” which in no way means “everything ends.” It means “everything you understood before has been an illusion projected onto something that covered up reality, and now it’s time to experience reality.

Since we just saw in the murder house how the lesbian couple was killed and immediately rose back up, plus Frances Conroy’s ghost rejoined with her mother’s, maybe then the post-apocalypse won’t be a cop out despite the appearance of witches, but an entree into the postmortem world. IF that were done in a thoughtful way, it could be a really interesting place to explore. But this show has a way of presenting really interesting, exciting, potentially thoughtful premises and then exploring them with the intellectual interest and capacity of a 12 year-old goth girl. It’s just endlessly disappointing to me. And as to the question of why I watch: it’s the same reason as the disappointment: because the ideas are imaginative and interesting and provocative to think about, and I am always hopeful that one day a spark will catch on and be explored in an equally thoughtful way. Mostly the show introduces a series of awesome “what-ifs” begins an interesting exploration and then does some kind of sexually graphic, gory or Mean Girls treatment and abandons it. It’s really frustrating that it never delivers intellectually.

by Anonymousreply 300Yesterday at 6:02 AM

[quote]but I guess calling me a cunt makes you superior.

Not superior Dear, Supreme!

by Anonymousreply 301Yesterday at 7:24 AM

Taissa Farmiga politely admits she thought the Tate/Violet reunion was stupid as well.

[quote]Part of me was, I guess the part that was Violet was happy that she didn't have to cry anymore and the part that's Taissa was sort of — you know, I like things that aren't tied up in a neat little bow. I like when things are ambiguous. So you know, I think I was more happy with the Season 1 ending but I think the Violet inside me is more happy with this ending.

[quote]I try to see the good in people. But just because someone is in a circumstance that is influenced by outside evil or outside darkness and they're led to do these actions, I don't think you can completely wipe the slate clean and fully take away the responsibility from that person.

by Anonymousreply 302Yesterday at 10:53 AM

Jessica Lange was probably disgusted by her shitty lines.

by Anonymousreply 303Yesterday at 11:16 AM

With all they hype and media buzz, dont be surprised when Lange wins a guest actress emmy.

by Anonymousreply 304Yesterday at 12:41 PM

R304 Not for that total shit

by Anonymousreply 305Yesterday at 1:04 PM

Lange can’t win a Guest Actress Emmy. Only Comedy and Drama series have Guest Acting awards. Shows like “American Horror Story” that compete in the Limited Series categories only have Lead and Supporting awards for actors.

by Anonymousreply 306Yesterday at 1:06 PM

I kept waiting for Madison to say to Violet: "Hey weepy ghost girl - you're a dead ringer for a witch I know called Zoe. It's uncanny!"

Or better yet, they should've had Zoe go back to murder house with Billy Porter so when Zoe and Violet meet they could play the Patty Duke Show twin song.

Such crap.

by Anonymousreply 307Yesterday at 1:12 PM

I'm a huge fan of AHS and LOVE Jessica Lange, but this episode was very disappointing.

This is what we've waited months for?

Sigh

by Anonymousreply 308Yesterday at 1:13 PM

Have Dylan McDermott and Zach Quinto tongue-kissed yet?

Has Stevie Nicks been on this season since her wonderful performance of "Gypsy"?

by Anonymousreply 309Yesterday at 1:37 PM

Quinto has never came after season 2 r309, and he has seemed dismissive in interviews about ever coming back.

I got the impression him and Murphy did not get along, but then he did Boys in the Band so who knows.

by Anonymousreply 310Yesterday at 1:54 PM

Kate Mara was Dylan’s ex-mistress in S1 and was quite good at portraying someone completely unhinged. Why wasn’t she asked back?

by Anonymousreply 311Yesterday at 2:40 PM

[quote]Quinto has never came after season 2 [R309], and he has seemed dismissive in interviews about ever coming back.

Finn Wittrock acted the same away after his season and hemmed and hawed on if he would want to return. But I think that was because he was heavily lauded for his role and assumed that he was headed to stardom so he didn't need AHS or Murphy. How wrong he was.

by Anonymousreply 312Yesterday at 2:41 PM

This is what people know of Finn Wittrock. Beginning and end.

by Anonymousreply 313Yesterday at 2:45 PM

Finn Wittrock did 3 seasons...Freak Show, Hotel and Roanoke.

by Anonymousreply 314a day ago

Can I point out how weird it is that Cheyenne Jackson is in the opening credits of this season?

by Anonymousreply 315a day ago

what about the aliens?

by Anonymousreply 316a day ago

Misty will probably revive him if they find his body....there are photos of him with the other witches, so he comes back somehow.

by Anonymousreply 317a day ago

[quote]what about the aliens?

There was some speculation that the two humans selected for their good genes were picked because they were descendants of Kit's alien birthed children.

by Anonymousreply 318a day ago

I like the cut of your jib, r300.

by Anonymousreply 31920 hours ago

[quote]Quinto has never came after season 2 R309, and he has seemed dismissive in interviews about ever coming back. I got the impression him and Murphy did not get along, but then he did Boys in the Band so who knows.

It doesn't seem like any of the actors who didn't return to the show in a following season had a problem with Murphy. Many of them just didn't like doing [italic]this particular show[/italic] but saw themselves working with him again and have. A few others were busy or were working on other Ryan Murphy productions.

Quinto only did two seasons then claimed he wanted to get away from the "genre" stuff. He did do Boys in the Band, as you said.

Michael Chiklis did a season then said the show was too dark for him but he liked Ryan Murphy and would work with him on something else. He's been on Gotham the past few years since his season until this past year.

Chloe badmouthed her character in Hotel but said she'd come back if whatever she played next time was different. She was on Bloodline from the time Hotel ended up until this past year.

Matt Bomer did a small part in Freak Show then appeared in Hotel. He did an uncredited voice over in Roanoke but never appeared on screen. He skipped Cult but did the Boys in the Band. He was also supposed to direct an episode of AHS this season but booked a TV series so he couldn't do it. He also directed an episode of Versace.

Angela said she wasn't asked to come back but she's already on Murphy's 911 show and Finn was just in American Crime Story: Versace.

by Anonymousreply 32019 hours ago

Gay character dead?

by Anonymousreply 32115 hours ago

It's interesting to me how many young impresario/director types want to work with the same actors again and again--I think not because they're necessarily the best people for the roles but because they like working with them. PT Anderson loves some geneuinely great actors, like Edward Norton and Frances McDormand, but he also likes working with some incredibly weak actors like Owen Wilson and Jason Schwartzman. Similarly, although Murphy keeps casting some phenomenal women actors (Lange, Bassett, Paulson, Bates, Rabe) he also casts some actors of incredibly limited ability (Roberts, Sidibe).

by Anonymousreply 3228 hours ago

Cheyenne Jackson should take an acting class. :) Just sayin' ...

by Anonymousreply 3238 hours ago
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