All You Got To Do is Hold Him And Kiss Him and Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 36)

Link to previous thread for reference:

Previous thread titles for reference:

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation (10/27/17)

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation, Part Two (10/28/17)

The Four Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 3 (10/31/17)

A Man For All Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 4 (11/5/17)

It's Beginning to Look a lot like Treason! The Mueller Investigation Part 5 (12/4/17)

Treason Is The Reason For The Season! The Mueller Investigation Part 6 (12/16/17)

Treason to Believe (The Mueller Investigation Part 7) (12/26/17)

I Love You For Sentimental Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 8) (1/3/18)

Give Me One Treason To Stay Here... (The Mueller Investigation Part 9) (1/15/18)

Treasons of Love (The Mueller Investigation Part 10) (1/24/18)

For Treasons Which Are Well Known To Them (The Mueller Investigation Part 11) (1/30/18)

Come on and Treason Down, Treason Down the Road (The Mueller Investigation Part 12) (2/6/18)

13 Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 13) (2/18/18)

By Treason of Insanity (The Mueller Investigation Part 14) (2/23/18)

The Edge of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 15) (2/28/18)

A Treason to Live; A Treason to Die (The Mueller Investigation Part 16)…(3/10/18)

Treasons of the Heart (The Mueller Investigation Part 17) (3/17/18)

A Stormy Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 18) (3/21/18)

Lovin', Touchin', Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 19) (3/26/18)

Everything Happens for a Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 20) (4/4/18)

For All the Right Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 21) (4/11/18)

Treasons Change (The Mueller Investigation Part 22) (4/16/18)

Dangerous Tre'asons (The Mueller Investigation Part 23) (4/22/18)

Don't Stop (the) Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 24) (5/1/18)

Got This Treason in My Body (The Mueller Investigation Part 25) (5/7/18)

I'm Treason on a Jet Plane... (The Mueller Investigation Part 26) (5/14/18)

Treasonnaires' Disease (The Mueller Investigation Part 27) (5/21/18)

You've Lost That Lovin' Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 28) (6/2/18)

Multiple Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 29) (6/9/18)

For Undisclosed Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 30) (6/18/18)

The Apple Doesn't Fall Far from the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 31) (06/23/18)

Treason d'être (The Mueller Investigation Part 32) (06/30/18)

My Treasons Are Not My Own (The Mueller Investigation Part 33) (07/08/18)

The Treasons a Baby Cries (The Mueller Investigation Part 34) (07/13/19)

Get to Know Your Family Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 35) (07/15/18)

All You Got To Do is Hold Him And Kiss Him and Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 36) (07/17/18)

Thanks, OP!

Previous thread filled up so darn fast! The outrage is there.

Another thread filled in a very short time.

The deplorables hate Mitch. The libs hate Mitch.

This is as good as time as any.

You could get the tea party set on board. They hate him as much as anybody.

That Russian agent has some DIRT on all these Repugs. I told you all ( I interned for a US Congressman-Dem of course-and have contacts there still) this is going to swallow many many many in the GOP, their business friends, some in the media. Mueller has it all. He isn't a part of this Butina investigation but he has all the dirt they have.

Thanks OP!

Jared is a treasonous whore, too!

Sorry, I just had to lift the last entry on thread 35, put in proper punctuation and re-post.

Trump is apparently making an announcement from the White House in 14 minutes (2 pm).

Can't he learn to shut his pie hole?

The NRA, evil people they have always been evil, they will always be evil.

R10 He is gonna start the LYING bullshit again. I will NOT watch.

He must speak. He must speak because the chorus of criticism about his Helsinki debacle is too high and loud, and coming from many quarters.

I don't know what he will say, though...

He'll probably say he's a stable genius and we're too stupid to understand his beautiful diplomatic skills.

We all know the script.

This may be to announce a firing. OMG let this be his undoing!

Want Rod just at the WH R10? Do we need to be worried that hes fired him or that hell say because of all the outrage and demand from the people to do so hes shutting down Mueller?

He’ll say he’s firing Sessions, setting in place the firing of Mueller.

It’s all kicking off NOW.

Rod R said it was a normal meeting, not with Trump.

[quote]Mueller has it all. He isn't a part of this Butina investigation but he has all the dirt they have.

TRUMP is making the announcement, not Rosenstein. Unscheduled and in five minutes.

trying again

[quote]Mueller has it all. He isn't a part of this Butina investigation but he has all the dirt they have.

1/ The Washington Post somewhat misleading says in its article on the charges that they're "not part of the special counsel investigation into Russian interference." Note that in the sense any of us would ever care about that sentence—the practical sense—that statement is untrue.

2/ Whether or not Mueller is the prosecuting authority in the charges against Butina means absolutely nothing for whether he was and is being kept apprised of the work being done to prosecute her *and* any information that may result from that prosecution. The second part is key.

3/ Butina has already cooperated with the government (by testifying before Congress) and has already *offered* to cooperate with the federal executive branch—the people prosecuting her—also. Which means we can expect she'll be giving information that *ends up in Mueller's hands*.

4/ Indeed, it's entirely possible that any deal the feds might sign with Butina would require her to cooperate fully *with the Special Counsel*—i.e., give him all the information she has. So would she? Well, she's a Kremlin agent—so our first instinct is to say that she will not.

The nation’s top voting-machine maker has admitted installing remote-access software on election-management systems that it sold over a period of six years, in what one U.S. senator described as “the worst decision for security short of leaving ballot boxes on a Moscow street corner.”

In a letter sent to Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) in April and obtained by Motherboard, Election Systems and Software admitted that it had “provided pcAnywhere remote connection software… to a small number of customers between 2000 and 2006,” which was installed on the election-management system ES&S sold them. Election-management systems are not the voting terminals used to cast ballots: They stay in county election offices and contain software used to program the voting machines and count up final results from the voting machines. The remote-access software created an opportunity for hackers to breach the machines. Election-management systems and voting machines are supposed to be disconnected from the internet and from any other systems that are connected to the internet for security reasons.

ES&S customers who had pcAnywhere installed also had modems on their election-management systems so ES&S technicians could dial into the systems and use the software to troubleshoot.

2:00 PM. I hope he goes on a rant against Paul Ryan. Weasel is all concerned that Russia interfered but refuses to condemn Trump.

It appears the Kochs are funneling money into all this as well. Big surprise.

And also, this was shocking:

“In these same days, Putin himself was pursuing other angles of influence with the American right. The Russian president met with right-wing pastor Franklin Graham for a 45-minute exchange.”

Inside the Decade-Long Russian Campaign to Infiltrate the NRA and Help Elect Trump:

Re: Maria Butina in all the above photos with members of the GOP......READ THE ABRAMSON THREAD I POSTED.......it disects the charging document against MB....in it, it states (via her emails) that THERE ARE SECRET SOCIETIES WITHIN THE GOP THAT ARE ALIGNED WITH RUSSIA......i shit you not.....and THAT explains A LOT.

I wonder why I blocked the OP of the past three threads.

Jesus, all those photos of that red headed Russkie cunt are making me nauseous.

This is all crazy.

Trump HAS to believe Russia didn't interfere because otherwise it calls his election win into question. He has to believe that he is so brilliant to defeat Hillary.

R26 Not surprised in the least. It explains a lot. We all know the Repugs are very much ideologically aligned with Russia.

r26 here...her is a link to the Seth Abramson thread that disects the Butina charges.....PAY ATTENTION TO POST #60 IN THE THREAD.

We are now Putin's America!

R27 that says more about you than the OP. This is breaking and big news.

OOPS.....sorry, here is the link for r31

I'm reading the Abramson link. Slowly so it sinks in. OMG!!!!!!!!!! I'm just past line 62. We KNEW it all along. Every leader in the GOP is in on this. BRING THE WHOLE TREASONOUS PARTY DOWN!

How will they cover themselves? That party is DEEP into the Russia shit. Fuck me! How deep does it go? Someone mentioned the Turtle delaying the Garland confirmation like he KNEW we'd have a R as Prez. If true, Gorsuck is OFF the SC, fingers crossed.

This is like Homeland but even more extreme. How can ANY Congressional member accept that our President is a Russian asset? Unbelievable

given the evidence, how can they accept that he is not?

THEY are Russian asset's as well. The whole damn R party is fuck deep in treason.

Is IT speaking yet?

Not yet

IT does not "speak", IT puckers lips to simulate anus, then extrudes shit

Butina, eccch. Where oh where did all the BEAUTIFUL Russian spies go to?

If Putin ordered orange anus to kill a journalist, do you think he would do it?

Why would Republicans do anything? These are people who hate minorities, hate gays, hate the poor, hate poor children, hate anyone who isn't Christian, hate immigrants, hate Americans. They don't love this country or those who live in it any more than Trump does.

acosta, you in danger gurl

R27 is a troll who tries this in every thread.

NOT today motherfucker, NOT TODAY.

Clear some more cookies, motherfucker.

When Madonna had concerts in Moscow and St. Petersburg in 2012, she was very critical of Putin and Russia regarding gay rights and pussy riot. The State Dept, under HRC, issued a dire warning for her and concert goers. The show went on with a pro-gay rights speech my Madonna and rainbow wrist bands given out. She reportedly would not sleep overnight in Russia. I don't blame her.

R43 Absolutely!

What happened to the 5 journalist that were shot up a few weeks ago.

That wasn’t even in the news but for a day.

The media has been shrunk to don lemon and a panel of 3.

NBC reports that Trump Just told Congress that he accepts US intelligence that Russia meddled in the election “but it could be other people too.”

R29 "Trump HAS to believe Russia didn't interfere because otherwise it calls his election win into question. He has to believe that he is so brilliant to defeat Hillary."

He did NOT win! The election WAS illegitimate! And NOW WE KNOW WHY the Republicans are still backing him: Maria Butina > NRA > money funneled > Republican candidates. They are all complicit!

Why doesn’t any member of Congress or the Senate just stand in front of a camera and fucking say it!!!!

Wow that statement from the President, so forceful, so strong

Reuters: Trump said he forgot to say “not” when he said yesterday that he saw no reason Russia would meddle in the election.

Thank you OP once again for keeping these threads alive. I also love the title! Good work!

He forgot an adverb, nothing to see here!

Fuck off, R27.

R33, it was fun blocking you, too. Buh bye!

And you, R55! Jesus.

This is the VERY best of thread titles!

Wait, this coward is now saying he believes US intelligence? After JUST YESTERDAY in FRONT of Putin he didn't? He couldn't say it in front of his handler so he flies home and suddenly, "Oh yea, ummm, I believe them". Oh FUCK OFF Prez Bone Spurs. And this will be good enough for the R's.

Sure, sure Benedict Donald. It COULD have been the 400lb Datalounger living in his mother's basement. Or it COULD have been China. Or it COULD have been Mexico. But that is not what YOUR intelligence says it WAS the Russians.

And YOU, R46. I’m blocking every stupid cunt I come across here. That is my right as a DL subscriber.

Trump’s back pedaling now is hilarious.

Now Trump chuckled and said he was just testing us.

R61 is obviously a fucking disinformation troll. Block away you feckless cunt.

All that blocking and it can't figure out that the stupid cunt is calling from inside the house!

He’s speaking now

Finally starting

But he will never say he is going to do anything about it. *crickets*

You can't write this shit. He seriously said he "misspoke" in front of Vladdy Daddy and now believes our intel. Are you shitting me? And this will be enough for the stupid assholes who are complicit with him.

OH SHUT UP YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT LIAR.

"NATO was actually going down, and I saved it." (by getting more money).

He’s reading the statement. Not winging it

Did say the queen was a terrific person

"The queen was lovely and she reviewed her honor guard for the first time in 70 years [with me]"

He’s not making sense when he goes off script

He believes it ? Oh really?? So, WHAT IS HE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT???

"When I left, everyone [NATO] was thrilled."

Omg the lights went off for a second.

He sounds unsure and weak

I can't with this shit. He has the vocab of a 3rd grader. Boy is he deflecting.

This is beyond stupid and yes if you left the US we would also be thrilled

Who is this ridiculous troll who keeps claiming to be blocking people? Christ, what a child. "ooh, OP, posts about stuff I don't like so I'm going to whine and block". Just ignore the thread asshole.

R74, the ONLY true statement out of Trump’s mouth!

Okay which White House ghost was responsible for turning off the lights when the traitor said he supports the IC?

He's blaming President Obama--said interference in the election was ignored until Trump won, then all of a sudden interference was a big deal. Says Clapper, et al, are getting paid to go on media and speak.

He's in the process of gaslighting himself. Sad!

Trump is live ans talking the same old same old talking points.

Hillary, Hillary, Hillary.

The lights going off was too much. I swear we couldn’t make this shit u

Even when the lights are on, there is nobody home.

Is his constant mentioning of "nuclear power" and "saving millions of lives" a veiled threat to all those who would dare oppose him?

"It could have been other people, too." The gaslights flicker off and on.

Trump saying Russia is helping with NoKo? Is he insane?

Russia sold NoKo all the upgraded missile technology that made it possible for NoKo to hit mainland US.

He is a delusional fool.

He now says he mistakenly said "would" instead of "wouldn't," i.e., he meant, he didn't see any reason why it wouldn't be Russia that interfered with the election. Does he really think anyone is going to buy this after all the other things he said? I guess if your entire audience is Mitch McConnell and Spineless Paul Ryan, maybe.

Now he's blaming Obama for "burying" it.

[quote]He now says he mistakenly said "would" instead of "wouldn't," i.e., he meant, he didn't see any reason why it wouldn't be Russia that interfered with the election. Does he really think anyone is going to buy this after all the other things he said?

BUT WE DO BELIEVE WE DO BELIEVE!!!!

And now that the press is asking questions he crosses him arms in his little defensive toddler pose.

I fucking hate him. I have never despised another person like I despise this thing.

trump surrendered America to Putin yesterday

This is about giving his supporters an excuse to argue on his favor. "Oh, he mispoke! Big deal! Look at those Socialist Liberal Drama Queens making such a big deal over nothing! UNHINGED!".

And on a side note.....

Trump had to read from a piece of paper to correct his statement. Yeah, I’m sure he misspoke. Oops, I meant to say he didn’t!

How about everything else that he said while standing beside Putin? How about the constant nodding in agreement? Any explanation for that? Was he just tired and his head got heavy?

What a piece of traitorous shit.

A little something from Mueller for Trump....

This attempt at damage control is utterly pathetic.

So, every time this MFer says ANYTHING we all need to just say "Will this change tomorrow and you'll say you misspoke and meant to say x, y, z"

Maybe when he said 'No Collusion" he really meant "Collusion"?

Was Barrack Obama ever this weak and defensive? I think not.

Don't worry. Anything Trump was forced to say this afternoon, he'll contradict with tweets in the next 48 hours. Remember the day after his Charlottesville statement?

Gloria Bolger on CNN is apoplectic. She and another female anchor immediately said, "Ridiculous," and "This makes it even worse." God bless the ladies. What would we do without them?

Their entire panel is not buying it, at all.

R96: WOW.

From the filing: “The motions indicate that the named individuals will not testify or provide other information on the basis of their privilege against self-incrimination, and that the government is requesting that the Court compel them to testify at the upcoming trial.”

How that brittle straw like wig of his did not burst into flames with all the lies that he just spewed out his rotting mouth was a miracle itself. Fuck you ! You backpedaling treasonous son of a bitch.

So who was the lady SCREAMING at the press after Trump finished? "It's OVER! MOVE OUT!!"

Kellyanne? '

He's going to repeal any efforts to interfere in the 2018 election.

No, repel. Repel!

Jesus Christ.

*can't breathe* *sides hurt*

Does he think he made things better? ahahahahhahahahahahhahhahahahahahaha

[quote]And now that the press is asking questions he crosses him arms in his little defensive toddler pose.

I can think of a few other things I'd like him to have in common with Mussolini.

Maybe it was a sign when the lights went out while he was speaking. Perhaps a message from the universe, "I've got this".

The universe helps those who help themselves, R109.

Resist, protest, vote.

He couldn't just play hostage and read from Kellyanne and Bill's script. No, Twitter Twat can't help himself.

Did the lights really flicker? That's hilarious. Lincoln's Ghost?

Nothing short of a hanging will fix this. Hang all of the treasonous scum. Kochs, Mercers, R Leadership, Fox News people, regular R's, Pres Bone Spur first, though.

Don't forget he also back-pedalled without shame at his presser with PM May. He'd blurted meddling opinions in 'The Sun' to look tough; then when called out about it - on the same day - said his nice words about May hadn't been used. It was 'fake news.'

Today again he accused fake news of going 'crazy' - and next, diametrically reversed his 'statement' about a matter of crucial national importance. Well, all those distinguished American psychiatrists have already put on record their view of Trump's manifest psychological impairments.

How can he suddenly walk back on what he said at the Putin press conference? He repeated the same traitorous things during the subsequent Hannity interview.

Now all of a sudden....

R113, just hanging? I was hoping for the guillotine

He looked like ABSOLUTE SHIT (not that he ever looks good)

The GREEN under eye bags, the I've been up snorting coke all night look, and as previously mentioned, the crossed arms/fuck you pose

The preferred method in the US is a firing squad.....just saying.

Oh, and don’t forget the asslicker sitting to his right who thanked Trump for doing such a great job with the economy.

Right after Trump’s about-face conference - and his subsequent arms folding - Ali Velshi on MSNBC just said, “Oh OK, now that THAT clears everything up, thanks for watching MSNBC, we’re done with news now.”

Then he threw his hands up in the air in disbelief and Katie Tur joined him by saying “are we supposed to have blindfolds on and ignore all the other things he said in Helsinki?”

Is this missing “not” supposed to solve it all?

R115 because he's done it before and gotten away with it.

Day late and a dollar short - he reminds me of Nixon when I was a child. Weak, lying weasel

Guillotine? Nah, a rusty blade that needs more than just one swift blow to get through Trump's neck. That should really make people think twice to pull the same shit as Trump.

And that's what this is all about: Making sure to scare off the copycats who think they can succeed where Trump failed.

Is Sacha Baron Cohen part of this newest NRA development? Was he paid for it?

Asking from western Europe. Remember when Ali G was outrageous? Now it is mainstream.

HE STOLE A LINE FROM VEEP???????

Was Mel trolling POTUS? All that yellow she wore?

This is supposed to fix things? I've been laughing hysterically at this. If anyone buys that pathetic, weak display we just saw, damn, they are fucking dolts of the highest order.

People on CNN and MSNBC need to stop imploring the R's to do something about him. TOO LATE. They are complicit and should have done something way before now. Just start calling them treasonous as well. Start saying they must have something on them as well. TURN UP THE HEAT!

Thomas Massie from Kentucky is on MSNBC and showing that he’s a traitorous pig just like Trump.

They all need to burn in a huge oven.

I guarantee you someone just explained to him this morning for the very first time what a "double negative" is.

BREAKING: Mueller requesting immunity for 5 witnesses in Manafort case

R130 see R96... from 45 Minutes Ago.

Holy crap. I wanted Mueller to hurry up, but now he acceleration makes me nervous.

Hold me!

I really want all the news anchors across the board to stop saying that the IC said that “no votes were changed”. They never said that. What they’ve been saying is that there is no EVIDENCE that any votes were changed. Big difference.

Uh., I think he said yesterday exactly what he meant to say. Coward

He said a lot of things yesterday. In the tweets, at the press conference, and quite critically on Hannity. All of what he said was consistently critical of the US IC, and supportive of Putin. Only today he realized that he erroneously failed to say "not." And we're supposed to believe that crock of nonsense and just move on?

Incredible.

TRUMP: So let me just say that we have two thoughts. You have groups that are wondering why the FBI never took the server. Why haven't they taken the server? Why was the FBI told to leave the office of the Democratic National Committee?

I've been wondering that. I've been asking that for months and months and I've been tweeting it out and calling it out on social media. Where is the server? I want to know where is the server and what is the server saying?

With that being said, all I can do is ask the question.

My people came to me, Dan Coates, came to me and some others they said they think it's Russia. I have President Putin. He just said it's not Russia.

I will say this: I don't see any reason why it would be. But I really do want to see the server but I have, I have confidence in both parties.

I really believe that this will probably go on for a while but I don't think it can go on without finding out what happened to the server. What happened to the servers of the Pakistani gentleman that worked on the DNC?

Where are those servers? They're missing. Where are they? What happened to Hillary Clinton's emails? 33,000 emails gone, just gone. I think in Russia they wouldn't be gone so easily.

I think it's a disgrace that we can't get Hillary Clinton's thirty three thousand e-mails.

I have great confidence in my intelligence people but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today and what he did is an incredible offer.

He offered to have the people working on the case come and work with their investigators, with respect to the 12 people. I think that's an incredible offer. Ok? Thank you

This is from the Putin/Trump press conference transcript. The only word that doesn’t make any kind of sense in Trump’s statement is the word “not”, when you look at everything else Trump said. Not only is Trump lying, he’s not doing it well for a change.

Had my head in my hands at work watching this shitshow backtracking today. I can't believe this is reality. Unbelievable.

He keeps saying that when he took office, the US and Russia relations had never been worse.... or something to that. Has he not heard of the Cuban missile crisis? Does he think that was a sweet 16 party?

Damn, he is so dumb.

It's not just "the server." He is unable to comprehend and retain what's been said to him.

In August 2016 the Canadians among me were alarmed that a presidential candidate asked three times in a half hour "why can't we use nukes?" That wasn't a moment exclusive for the people outside the US: Americans read about it to. And yet this is whom they elect.

R118 & R122 - I always felt the American embrace of technology with the use of the electric chair was a particularly nasty way to end matters...

But if we’re really wanting an appropriate finale - I think the end of Mussolini et al directly by his people and strung up after for all to see would be entirely fitting in the circumstances.

And this - is coming from someone entirely opposed to capital punishment. I have huge issues with it as far as civil criminal punishment. But for the treasonous perfidy involved in selling out your people - your entire nation! - and risk bringing them to ruin - all for coin!

This is a vile and despicable act. No one forced them to do this. It was an act of fundamental betrayal, deserving of the harshest consequences.

Mueller might be speeding up because Trump is on his way to a psychotic break. We don’t know how crazy it is behind the scenes, probably worse than when Nixon got drunk and walked the halls wailing.

R140 Here, Here!

What about what Gaddafi's people did to him?

How could anyone in the WH think what he said today was going to fix this? Is this the final test to see if they can just say the craziest shit and see if it works?

Saw on Twitter Miss Lindsey flipped back in less than 24 hours. She back to praising Trump.

Hey, at least he spelled “no” right!

R143 Wait, what? Please tell me that isn't true?

There is NOTHING this prick can say right now to calm the waters. Nothing. The treason train has left the station.

Fuck all these R's. We need to call out that they, too, are beholden to Russia and act like Putin has something on THEM as well.

Thanks to whoever posted about immunity.

R142, sociopaths like Trump always test a victim's threshold over and over and over in order to numb the response and expand their control.

Hang ANY citizen who is enabling Russian influence over our politics and elections, including those citizens who know and are deflecting. Looking and YOU, McConnell, Lindsey, Conway, Bannon, Ryan, Chris Stewart...these people must be put to death along with the primary players. We're all seeing the same information...will they deny reality even as the guilty verdicts begin flowing? We must remove the entire cancer, not just the largest cells.

R147 Yes! They would deny and defend him even if he admitted he was a Russian asset. They do need to all be hanged.

T is For TREASON

r144 That line he crossed out there says anyone involved in election meddling should be brought to justice.

R150 - Well, he rcertainly wouldn’t want to shoot himself in the foot with that line...

Wow he really hung Pence out to dry. Pence made a statement yesterday agreeing with the presidents actions.

And they today the pres denies them.

Well, Pence? You backed his original statement that he himself distances himself from.

[quote]Guillotine? Nah, a rusty blade that needs more than just one swift blow to get through Trump's neck. That should really make people think twice to pull the same shit as Trump.

Is there anyone anywhere knowledgeable in administering the Death by a Thousand Cuts?

OP of the first 3-4 threads in this series here (not current wonderful OP) — I don’t believe in capital punishment even for treason. But this is something that perhaps ought to mean life imprisonment, or at least years in a real and tough prison.

NO! We are already going to have the foot the bill to investigate and clean up after these criminals. We are not going to pay to keep them alive. Jared could live another fifty years.

If you’re going to take the utilitarian angle, R155, it costs the state more to execute a prisoner than it does for them to serve a life sentence.

Sorry if this is a dumb question - What is the significance of Mueller seeking immunity for the 5 witnesses? TIA

Has Marcy Wheeler been discussed in these threads? She is a journalist who turned one of her sources in to the FBI last year, when she realized he played a role in the Russian election meddling.

Trump’s actions with regard to Syria and Israel are part of a quid pro quo with Russia in return for their helping him win the election.

The shit is about to hit the fan.

r157 the witnesses will testify ONLY if they get immunity. Immunity is the ONE condition that must be granted for the witnesses to testify, the prosecutors may NOT use the witnesses' testimony against them, so the witnesses will be comfortable to share what they know, from any dealings or situations that may otherwise incriminate them.

Thanks R159!

Any thoughts on who the five are?

Treasonous Trump bump

Any thoughts on who the five are?

My guess on two:

Rick Gates, his partner

Manafort's (ex?-) son-in-law

R161, I was just about to ask the same question.

I would think that Papadopoulus is one of them.

Theyre going to be people from PM past that have knowledge of his dealings.....Papadapolous knows nothing about PM other than his activity during his tenure at the campaign.

[quote]Well, Pence? You backed his original statement that he himself distances himself from.

Nonsense, R152. Pence wasn't backed in to a corner. Pence said he agreed with Drumpfy... because HE understood what Drumpf was saying because it was perfectly clear. Both of them don't understand why the rest of the world can't understand what he made clear and don't understand why he needed to clarify!

Pundit and anchors just need to start laughing uncontrollably when they hear his enablers spout their nonsense when defending him.

It is the House Republicans that are the biggest problem in protesting Trump at all cost. McConnell, Graham, Rand Paul, Tom Cotton and several others, are Trump protectors. In the House, the numbers are fifteen or so that are activists in undermining the Mueller investigation. Among them include Nunes, Jim Jordan, DeSantis, Gaetz, Issa, Massey, Gohmert, and Biggs. Gowdy, and others, can play on the fence when convenient to give the fallacious impression of objectivity. There needs to be blow-back on Trump's enablers, specifically ones that are trying to obstruction or kill the Mueller investigation and target specific people in the DOJ and FBI as a means to deflect and gut the inquiry. Write/Email them, particularly if you live in a district of one. Complain. Call their office. Write editorials to newspapers. Complain about them to both your Senators and House Rep., even if they are Democrats. Vote. Urge others to vote.

[quote]The shit is about to hit the fan.

Wish I had a dollar for every time I've heard that in the last 2 years.

R159 so will they only call them to the stand if necessary? Meaning they'll burn a source if it means they'll for sure put away Manafort?

"protecting", not "protesting"

Add Meadows from NC. He's another that has worked to undermine the Mueller inquiry.

Putin is KGB. You know damn well he speaks fluent English so why the show with translators and such?

Maybe Manafort's family are among the people requesting immunity. The wife, maybe the two daughters that texted back and forth about what a crook he was, and how the money they had was blood money?

Does Melania know anything about Trump's dealings with Manafort? Would she testify?

Treason threads not showing up for me. I had to do a Google search to find this.

[quote]Sorry if this is a dumb question - What is the significance of Mueller seeking immunity for the 5 witnesses? TIA

I think it has something to do with Hillary’s ankle monitor.

It means there's a bunch of people that know all the dirt about what happened but don't want to go to jail for their part. Could be family members, business associates. Probably someone who really knows the dirt.

Could also be an accountant or lawyer.

As for what White House ghost who turned out the lights - it could be JFK, Reagan or even Bobby. Out of the three, I'd put money on Bobby.

So the five witnesses can still be indicted too, right?

Bankers.

R181 No, that is what immunity is for. They gotta give up the goodies first.

If the Mueller investigation shows findings/indictments that Trump conspired with Russia to influence the 2016 election and/or engaged in obstruction and/or money laundering, particularly within the last decade; most Republicans in Congress will abandon support for him. Some in the House may still remain behind Trump. His base will shrink to about 30% or a bit less. Maybe more if the charges are immense.

It is most important to counter Trump and House Republicans from trying to further undermine the investigation.

If they receive immunity they could be indicted for perjury if they don't testify truthfully.

Reports say it was John Kelly who turned the lights off "accidentally". It was Kelly who lobbied the congressional Repubs to publicly speak out against Trump.

Kelly throwing shade...

That's not accurate, R183. They have immunity on their testimony and therefore nothing they say in their testimony can be used to indict them. However they can still be indicted if there evidence them compiled elsewhere. That's how it works in the Federal courts.

*if there is evidence against them

The same John Kelly who lied about Frederica Wilson and who had nothing to say about Trump’s “both sides” comment is suddenly being a rebel? Hard. To. Believe.

Is he trying to look good before the Trump Titanic sinks?

R190, Kelly was sent in to try and contain him. He also, upon realizing it wasn't working, basically said "let him get impeached".

Kelly is scum, and clearly he is the source to Vanity Fair that paints himself in a good light. But it does tell you something about what is going on: 1) the GOP are all wussies who need to be told to speak out against Trump, and 2) Kelly is covering his ass, he is fine with the agenda against blacks/browns but he will not allow himself to go down for the Trump-Russia mess, and he clearly hates Trump.

R190, he still lied about Rep. Wilson and is a great fit for this current administration. Kelly also defends Trump whenever he opens his mouth. He’s not the good guy here.

Sinking Trump is dragging the the whole GOP establishment down with him. Of course, they still think they are saving him... from himself of all things.

From article at r186.....

"While National Security Adviser John Bolton, according to a source, thought Trump’s remarks were ill-advised, he believed that walking them back would only add fuel to the outrage pyre and make the president look weak."

I'm hoping that's the Angel of Death outlined in the orb.

R195 I first read that as "White Nationalist Advisor-maybe I'm right?

r194.....wrong....the GOP is taking itself down with their shenanigans,....not to mention that we now have evidence that the GOP and the NRA worked directly with the Kremlin. When it finally goes down, it will be like a bomb.

[quote]The preferred method in the US is a firing squad.....just saying.

This sounds more appropriate:

Yeah, the Repugs are totally in this treason train.

What else did he give putin that we don't know about yet?

Remember, we had quite the conversation regarding Maria Butina a few months ago......I dont remember exactly when, so I cant pinpoint which thread number it is, but I do remember the conversations.....it was lengthy, and it mentioned her connections to the NRA, and even was a suspect as one of Trumps mistresses.....remember, it was at the same time as Trump went to DC that MB moved into a townhouse in Georgetown claiming she was a student.

Actually, i remember it was when Michael Wolfs book about Trump came out with all the gossip and it mentioned he had a mistress.......

Kelly and the GOP have all been taking money from Russia and that is why they have all been acting frenzied.

This grotesque asshole is probably Maria Butina's American pimp.

A shortish read explaining things to those too lazy to find information otherwise. Sorry if it was already posted.

Kelly is a racist asshole, but I don't believe he has any Russian money and is pissed off at Trump's NATO and Putin fuckery. As for the GOP, they are neck-deep in dirty Russian money. At least now, woke people can stop saying they are allowing Trump's shit because of his base. Nope! It is because they are dirty also with Russian $$$ and if they try to stop Trump, they will be ratted out. Either way, it doesn't matter, their secret is out, the noose is tightening and they will go down regardless. They should just turn against Trump and do less time at this point.... But no, they will keep trying to stop the Mueller investigation until they are all indicted.

I really don’t think that The NRA can be taken down because it is a Russian money laundering operation. The members don’t give a fuck. Nothing is more sacred to Americans than their right to shoot children.

[quote]Wow he really hung Pence out to dry.

Nah. Today a White House press person said that it was actually Pence, along with Pompey, who came up with the whole would/wouldn’t switcheroo appeasement “solution.”

If you'd like some good news, Monmouth put out some polling that makes it look like Dana Rohrabacher's probably headed for a loss in November.

Dasvidanya, comrade.

If you'd like to make sure that happens, considering throwing his opponent some scratch.

r209 I read some of Rohrabacher's feed for a half-hour in early April and loved the gusto with which his primary competitors commented that they could represent the people without representing Russia.

The GOP impeached a president for a blowjob in the oval office, but they wont impeach a president for giving a blowjob on live worldwide television ?

That tells you about repugs. They are completely evil and partisaned and they, with the help of Putin plan to get rid of our demarcracy.

R198 I really think the GOP establishment itself was caught in a coup by the Russian infiltrated NRA-loving Tea party members. Of course, they are too corrupted/controlled by right-wing money themselves to put up a fight, so they just rolled over and kept quiet even as the lunatic fringe of their party took over.

Lindsey goes before the cameras. Is Lindsey now Trump's fixer?

The media loves Lindsey, so they'll believe the Senator with many talents.

r215.........Why in the hell would anyone look to Trump for guidance on securing the election ? Thats literally the fox guarding the henhouse.

Cause miss lindsey's mussy doesn't stink?

Deplorables have said, and I have some in my family, that if things were this bad with what he said yesterday, the R's would never, I say never, stand for it and would be calling on him to resign. To them, the fact they haven't proves it's all to do about nothing.

That's how they think! They're so fucking stupid.

Guarding the Henhouse? That fox is fucking those chicken every chance he gets.

I think this is all going to come out but how will they fit it into our court system?

r216 asking Trump to secure the 2018 mid-terms is ridiculous for Miss Lindsey to say. DaJT has proven he wants the Russian intrusion......again.

What Congress can do is appropriate strong funding for counter-measures, and monitor it thoroughly. Trump will try to undermine, but keep those intelligence committee hearings frequent through the campaigning and the election process.

R221 Except they don't want to stop Russia. He is bankrolling the Repugs.

The Rethuglicans are spineless cowards. While I think that many of them are complicit either directly or somewhat indirectly, at least for those who are there exists some rationale for their lying, prevaricating, and dissembling -- they are trying to save their own miserable hides. But the others who are not complicit are in some ways even worse because -- in the face of obvious treason -- they are simply going along so as to not rock the boat.

Will none of these people call this what it is? Of course not. That is why they are Repukes. They are in it for the absurd tax cuts for the wealthy, the connections, the profits, the corporate greed, and whatever modicum of power it affords them. They are traitors, the whole damn lot of them. Waiting for them to do the right thing is like waiting for Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy to make a joint appearance to bestow upon you your lottery winnings.

Andrew Cuomo is going to diagram orange's sentence.

I'm going to cum. Hands-free.

The Finnish president wrote on Facebook after the meeting that he'd received various messages and pleas to raise questions about trans-Atlantic and European security, and emphasize human rights among other things when meeting Trump and Putin. He said that an American senator told him before his session with Trump that "You're the last head of state he speaks with before meeting Putin. It's on you." What crazy times we're living.

I would have glared at him and said "NOW a warning?!

The photo in the OP is vaguely homophobic, as well as not funny or clever. Good job!

[quote] "You're the last head of state he speaks with before meeting Putin. It's on you."

I would have rolled my eyes and told him, "Oh, no, fucker -- don't you dare put this on me. We are not to blame for this mess. You created it; it belongs to you. Donald Trump is an American problem. You bastards find the solution. Have a nice day."

Boris at R227 we wouldn't expect you to find it funny.

I guess it's my distaste for homophobia that gave away my Russian leanings. Idiots.

Paul Manafort is looking quite stiff in the neck area when they show him walking into the courthouse.

I zapped all those inane threads and what do ya know, all the scandals appear at the top.

I have been reading stories about stock market being propped up by buybacks and selling, with insider selling. Bad sign for market. Russia also sold their US treasury notes. Beware economic crash

PS - Russia is making Trump out to be a weakling and they won. Do deplorables not know this is an embarrassment for US and their Donald made a doo doo?

Rachel Maddow just went through a huge list of things that have happened that Congress should investigate and honestly it scared the shit out of me. Wish I could remember more than just two of the but recently the IRS has ruled that the NRA not longer needs to release its donors or how much money they give. Now in case you don't know, Russian has funneled money into the NRA in the 2016 election, so the NRA no longer needing to release that info is huge.

Also the Trump administration has decided to eliminate the position of top cyber policy adviser role. Why would we need a cyber security advisor?

God I wish I could remember all the other things she listed but she went through them rapid fire.

Not the IRS, R235, the Treasury Department (i.e. Trump and his flunkies), and it goes well beyond just the NRA.

Breaking: Cambridge Analytica's Facebook data was accessed from Russia, MP says:

CNNMoney) The now infamous Facebook data set on tens of millions of Americans gathered by a Cambridge University scientist for a firm that went on to work for Donald Trump's 2016 campaign was accessed from Russia, a British member of parliament tells CNN.

Damian Collins, the Conservative MP leading a British parliamentary investigation into online disinformation, told CNN that a British investigation found evidence that the data, collected by Professor Aleksandr Kogan on behalf of Cambridge Analytica, had been accessed from Russia and other countries. The discovery was made by the Information Commissioner's Office (ICO), Britain's data protection authority, Collins said.

"I think what we want to know now is who were those people and what access did they have, and were they actually able to take some of that data themselves and use it for whatever things they wanted," Collins said.

Clear some more cookies, Moron at R230.

Everyone should see the Chris Pine version of Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan that came out in 2014. Not the greatest action film out there but I enjoyed it. It's about how Russia tries to ***POSSIBLE SPOILER*** deviously destroy the US economy.*****SPOILER END.

At the time the subject, although quite realistic, didn't really seem like it would in happen in real life but times have changed. The film sort of flopped. I wonder how well it would do if it came out now.

[quote]If you'd like some good news, Monmouth put out some polling that makes it look like Dana Rohrabacher's probably headed for a loss in November.

R209, he suspiciously won his seat by less than 1% when it looked he was headed for defeat. To this day, I fully believed Putin hacked the vote in District 48 so that his boys Rohrabacher and Issa would win.

My but there's a small army of easily-triggered queens out there offended by any sexual implications between Trump and Putin.

You know what's troubling? America is mismanaging the country like a third world country.

The management of elections is a case in point. Klutzy. Not thought out. Bad implementation. No follow through.

Typical third world features.

Lawrence O’Donnell just reconfirmed that according to Peter Alexander, the two Mikes (Pence and Pompeo) came up with the one-word solution.

Rachel said there are 60 protests around the country tomorrow at 8pm. I am considering going to the one in Times Square.

Sen. Jeanne Shaheen says she wants to bring in the U.S. interpreter from the Helsinki summit to testify before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on what, exactly, Trump shared with Putin.

DL fave Cameron Kasky has weighed in on the new bullshit rule from the Treasury Department, which seems to be getting more attention than Mnuchin and Trump probably wanted, fortunately.

Once again Miss Jill Winebanks has thrown down! Tonight's brooch on Lawrence's show is a TRUMP pin with a hammer and sickle across it.

Speaking of pins: For Trump’s visit, Queen Elizabeth wore a brooch — a small green flower — that was a gift from the Obamas during their state visit in 2011, per @people.

R225 Wonder if the Senator that called the Finnish Pres. was Miss Lindsey?

She is one busy-body that loves photos, interviews, being quoted, making headines, etc. Most of all, she's taken it upon herself to do damage control in behalf of Trump.

James Comey tweets moments ago:

This Republican Congress has proven incapable of fulfilling the Founders’ design that “Ambition must ... counteract ambition.” All who believe in this country’s values must vote for Democrats this fall. Policy differences don’t matter right now. History has its eyes on us.

Well, we wouldn’t have this problem if Comey hadn’t of reopened the e-mails right before the election, now would we....

R242, they must be awfully triggered, seeing how we talk about Trump bending over for Putin constantly.

R252 and he still totally feels mildly nauseous about it.

I like Comey’s tweet.

I’m scared David, hold me.

Yeah, and the Queen wore another brooch that her mother wore when her husband (the king) died.

And, aaaand, she wore a brooch given to her by Canada, surely in support of that country after the idiot insulted them.

Thanks, Comey.

So many offended, cookie clearing trolls on here tonight. Must be worried about something!

MSNBC: Secret service has repeatedly interfered with attempts to serve Jared Kushner with a subpoena in the DNC’s lawsuit on Russian electoral interference.

Sorry but the next thread has to be “Would It or Wouldn’t It Be Treason?”

Why would the SS do that?

They see it as part of their duty to protect the President’s family, apparently.

Because of his status, you cant just walk up to him, for security reasons.

Some hope- one of my friends "came out" as a Trump voter. I was SHOCKED. He is pretty liberal. So he tells me he voted for Trump tonight then quickly, before I can slap him, says "But I regret it so much. I hate myself. I had regrets a few days after the election and I haven't supported anything he's done while President. If I could take it back I would." Then he said he will vote straight Dem for the rest of his life.

He was one of the "But her emails" and "something about her I just don't like" people.

Will the DoJ resort to hiding Jared's subpoena in the shorts of a tempting bike messenger or pizza delivery guy?

FFS....have Jeff Sessions or Rod Rosenstein serve it.....they have access and theyre officers of the court.

Here's the motion the DNC filed seeking permission to serve Jared through the mail since he's dodging all other means.

re: Kushner hiding from subpoena -- that is some bullshit!

r265, you need to viciously slap him anyway.

And then give him another slap for me.

Rep. Mike Quigley (D-IL), on Russian spy NRA woman:

"We wanted her to testify, and the Republicans on the committee would not subpoena her. And there are 30 other people like her that we weren't allowed to question. That sounds like they wanted to work with the White House to protect it politically."

[quote]What else did he give putin that we don't know about yet?

A dirty Sanchez, we presume.

[quote]but how will they fit it into our court system?

Chief Martin Brody to Mueller:

You're gonna need a bigger boat.

[quote]Paul Manafort is looking quite stiff in the neck area when they show him walking into the courthouse.

He probably only gets one pillow now. With an unacceptably low thread count.

[quote]Do deplorables not know this is an embarrassment for US and their Donald made a doo doo?

I once attended a dinner party at a work colleague's house, and midway through the meal, his 2-year-old daughter arrived in the dining room towing her red wagon behind her, wherein was displayed a fresh shit of which she was enormously proud.

It is the same behavior I have to endure daily from the fucking president of the United States.

[quote]Speaking of pins: For Trump’s visit, Queen Elizabeth wore a brooch — a small green flower — that was a gift from the Obamas during their state visit in 2011, per @people.

This is how you do it.

[quote]Putin is KGB. You know damn well he speaks fluent English so why the show with translators and such?

I'm not convinced orange is fully versed in English. It was probably for him.

[quote]Treason threads not showing up for me. I had to do a Google search to find this.

Click the eyeball to the right of the thread title? At least you'll be able to find this one.

R277 So true! Thanks for the clarification!

Pres Bone Spurs said he asked Putin about meddling and he forcefully denied it. Sooooooooo, this would be like FDR going to Germany in the 30's and asking Hitler about concentration camps and Hitler replied: "Well, you see, we are putting the Jews up in very comfy accommodations. They stay very warm. We give them jobs."

Like summer camp, r279.....

If Rand Paul is in bed with Russians and he’s a Tea Partier is it possible the Tea Party was a Russian plot too?

Many Tea Partiers were also BernBros. So the Russians have been meddling with our elections for years.

Here’s what I believe happened. Eight years ago, Republicans were a Congressional minority.

They hated it. It’s hard to raise money; it’s hard to get re-elected (as if being in Congress were a “job” rather than public service); and you’re pretty much powerless - especially if the President is of the opposite party. (Like the Dems now). The R’s expected success during Obama’s first midterm, turned things around for them temporarily.

Nevertheless, when Boehner (a prodigious fundraiser) resigned over the antics of the Jordan, Meadows, and other far, far, far right wing nuts, the party panicked.

They begged Ryan (the only high profile House Republican) to take Boeiner’s place. He did, on the condition the party wouldn’t expect him to duplicate Boehner’s money machine.

Enter Butina and the NRA. THEY made up the shortfall. Ryan “tried” to maintain plausible deniability.

Russia clinched it for Trump amidst the Comey (now Mueller) probe.

The NRA gave out lots of money. Some of it to Rs who were totally in on the scheme (Rohrbacher, Chaffetz, Nunes) well as to many others.

Comey was fired when it became apparent his team had begun to uncover the scheme. Some of the dirtier members announced retirements (hoping to slink under the radar). Others began undermining the investigation. The majority of Republicans just looked the other way. They want to allow the dirtiest enough room to protect Trump and stop Mueller.

Why?

1). Because so many of them were the recipients of NRA money. Even if they didn’t know it was tainted, how do they prove to swing voters that the checks they got didn’t knowingly come from Russians?

2). If Mueller succeeds, so many of their colleagues will be proven dirty that what survives of the Trimp party could become a permanent, unspeakable, minority. They’d hate going back into the minority with that Albatross around their necks.

R283 I think your theory has a few holes which I'm too tired to point out, but you are definitely on to something.... Keep at it!

R283, not bad. It's not all the Republicans, but all of the Republicans are willing to look the other way. There is other money besides Russian money though--Mercer, Koch--huge donors.

So, I'm convinced that with Lindsay Graham, it's not money, but blackmail--he's like a yapping dogging on a choke chain. Does he really think people don't know that he's gay?

[quote] In the long term, combining greater media literacy with better screening of online news offers some kind of an answer. But in the meantime, it is crucial to call out the malign foreign choreographers of disinformation and the deliberate campaigns of political subversion.

From Russia expert Mark Galeotti, who coined the term the Gerasimov Doctrine.

R261 I love it. OP please use that one for the next thread!

I watched Rachel last night, even though she gives me a pit in my stomach and problems sleeping. She stated that the Russians are attempting to create chaos by hacking into our nuclear, electric, etc infrastructure. WTF!! This is warfare. Trump is aiding and abetting the enemy in plain sight. This is TREASON!

All Trump was concerned about was himself. And of course Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell were also guilty. None of them said one word about what they were doing or are going to do to prevent this. Nothing. Not. One. Word.

Rick Wilson: The Butina case is going to "crack people's asses open." And there's a rumor she was sleeping with a "married conservative luminary."

R290 Please let it be Santorum!

"[Maddow] stated that the Russians are attempting to create chaos by hacking into our nuclear, electric, etc infrastructure."

That means there is direct proof. It has been suspected for some time that the East Coast blackouts were orchestrated.

I would also suggest that Russian have mastered a form of remote-control of airplanes; there is evidence for this too. They will threaten us. We have to stand strong.

[quote]Please let it be Santorum!

Sorry, he specifically said it wasn't Santorum.

[quote]Inside the Decade-Long Russian Campaign to Infiltrate the NRA and Help Elect Trump

I knew this took years to set up, but holy shit was Obama sleepwalking the whole time???

[quote]Trump is aiding and abetting the enemy in plain sight. This is TREASON!

Doing absolutely nothing to defend or fight back in a cyberwar against America certainly falls under high crimes and misdemeanors.

The Butina case is what's going to get the GOP Congressional leadership to crap their pants. OK. Let's tease out this scenario. Obviously there are member of Congress who could get some shit splashed on themselves. So if you're in Congress, what would you do?

Would you get on the Fire Rosenstein & Mueller bandwagon?

Would you gang up on Trump and tell him to resign? (If he does, will everything goes away?)

Would you hire a lawyer and proclaim your innocence?

Would you flip and tell the Special Prosecutor every thing you know, play "Let's Make a Deal" and hope that by getting out early you can cut a could deal including anonymity?

President Ranty-Pants is exceptionally delusional this morning:

So many people at the higher ends of intelligence loved my press conference performance in Helsinki. Putin and I discussed many important subjects at our earlier meeting. We got along well which truly bothered many haters who wanted to see a boxing match. Big results will come!

While the NATO meeting in Brussels was an acknowledged triumph, with billions of dollars more being put up by member countries at a faster pace, the meeting with Russia may prove to be, in the long run, an even greater success. Many positive things will come out of that meeting..

[quote] Would you get on the Fire Rosenstein & Mueller bandwagon?

Well, R296, that would be a failed strategy, because this is a case that is being prosecuted by the National Security Division of DOJ and the U.S. Attorney's office for the District of Columbia. Firing Mueller and Rosenstein would be pointless because the prosecution will continue whether Mueller or Rosenstein are there. And, even if a new DAG could be confirmed before November, it would be almost impossible for that individual to end the Butina prosecution without then being accused of obstruction of justice themselves.

[quote]Would you flip and tell the Special Prosecutor every thing you know, play "Let's Make a Deal" and hope that by getting out early you can cut a could deal including anonymity?

With the way Mueller seems to be playing his hand, I suspect that the "getting out early" ship has already sailed.

Putin ass licker Dana Rohrabacher is defending Russian agent Maria Butina. Treason in plain sight.

The hardest-core Republican response would be to go all-in, to assert (not in so many words) that there must be no restrictions on where campaign financing comes from (any more than limits to how much) and through a series of decisions by right-wing judges entrench the plutocracy and its subordination to the Russian oligarchy—or whoever happens to be financing our point-one %. Free-market government. And just let the Democrats challenge that, if they have the will and ability.

To Treason Or Not To Treason, That's The Question

Axios: Yes, almost every elected Republican we talk to privately thinks President Trump’s warm embrace of Vladimir Putin was unexplainable, unacceptable and un-American. Yes, they wish they could say this publicly. No, they won’t — not now, and probably never.

The cold, hard reason: They see no upside in speaking out — and fear political suicide if they do, numerous Republican officials tell us. Why it matters: This is the mind-control power Trump has, thanks to 90 percent of Republicans approving of his tactics and performance.

Mike Murphy, GOP strategist: "I’m furious R’s are cowardly about Trump. But here is what they say in private: 1.) Trump is a disgrace. 2.) I give fiery press conf tmmrw saying that. 3.) Nothing changes, Trump remains nuts and remains POTUS. 4.) A nut beats me in next primary. So how does my pol suicide help?"

I think this says it all...

What Mike Murphy said is sadly true. The only realistic solution that we have at this point is to vote the fuckers out in November. He's as guilty as sin of treason and conspiring with an enemy state to steal an election that has benefited him and his family. He is an illegitimate [p]resident and should be in jail not the Oval Office. But there is nothing that is going to change in the next three and a half months. The Repukes are scared of their own shadow, and the GOP is now fully in the hands of the brain-dead Tea Party white nationalists. I had a feeling in 2010 that this was going to happen. I really wish that I had been wrong.

R303, probably another reason why Mueller will wait until after the midterms to drop the biggest indictments - Congress, including what’s left of the GOP, will be more likely to act, two years out from 2020

Putin created a network of Russian assets within the US government to the point where others are too afraid to do anything about it. And that tells how deep this goes and how powerful these assets are that they could hurt someone's career for speaking up.

However I am having a really hard time to see conservatives as victims who are afraid of losing their career or worse. Serves these assholes right for being part of such a corrupt group and not doing anything in the early stages.

51% of Trump voters are worried that they or someone in their family will become a victim of violence from MS-13 -- a gang that targets immigrant teens in a few specific areas of the country.

Proof that Trump's idiotic lies work on idiots.

Did anyone else notice in Trump's handwritten addition to his speech yesterday that he misspelled "collusion"...?

He uses the word so often, you'd think he'd know how to fucking spell it by now.

Oh please. He doesn’t even know how to spell his wife’s name.

[quote]Oh please. He doesn’t even know how to spell his wife’s name.

He barely knows how to spell his own name.

True, R311. He writes his name basically as "AvvvvlcAvvvvvvqA."

Trump impeachment odds hit record after Helsinki, says Irish bookmaker

[quote]No, punters in Britain and Ireland are putting up money 2 to 1 on President Trump’s impeachment, according to Paddy Power, a bookmaker that manages betting shops in Britain and Ireland and that runs Ireland’s largest telephone betting service.

[quote]New confidence appears to stem from Trump’s appearance Monday in Helsinki, where he stood beside Vladimir Putin and seemed to take the Russian president’s word, over that of his own intelligence agencies, that the Russians had not interfered in the 2016 U.S. election. When he found himself under an avalanche of bipartisan criticism Tuesday, Trump said he accepted the intelligence community’s findings and sought to explain away his earlier remarks using syntactic somersaults.

more at link

Russia State TV analyzes Trump's would-wouldn't flip-flop:

"It's very simple. First time, he said what he thought. Then he got back to the Oval Office, discovered a hysterical reaction & realized he overdid it."

R290 well, it absolutely would not be Roy Moore. She's way too old.

R294, you are demonstrating your ignorance. You have zero clue about even a tenth of what the Obama administration did to combat Russia. Furthermore, they had to fight another party of their own countrymen in battling Russia. Finally, you’re victim blaming.

[quote]Finally, you’re victim blaming.

Sort of like how they turned around and blamed HRC for it?

What the fuck is wrong with these people?

In regards to R318's link story - (to Fox and Friends)...why are they allowed to get away with stating that the PEOPLE voted for tRump, which is WHY he is president. No THEY did NOT. 3 million MORE people voted for Hillary.

[quote]Sorry but the next thread has to be “Would It or Wouldn’t It Be Treason?”

I like, but would also suggest:

"Treeson of the Wouldn't Clods"

It's ridiculous to me so that so many care about political survival on a job that pays $170K per year. Just go work for a lobbyist or a corporation's Government Affairs department. You will make more $$ and have a better life. Do it for your country assholes!

Wow, R20. Just speechless. This lays it ALL out (although at this point, somewhat obliquely). Mueller holds all the cards. He is being methodical, and there’s a reason. Mind blown.

They're addicted to the status, perks and spotlight that come with a congressional position, R321.

And honestly, $170,000/year isn't bad for doing nothing but bloviating.

It's not just that R321, there is an ideological dimension to their fanatical devotion to Trump. They are - in their addled minds - saving the country for those to whom they believe it truly belongs. They don't live in reality. They don't understand history or the Constitution. They don't even really understand the tenets of the religion they cling to so desperately. They are beyond reason and they need to be stopped before it is too late.

[quote]It's ridiculous to me so that so many care about political survival on a job that pays $170K per year.

It's ridiculous that you think they're only getting paid $170k/year!!!!

[quote]The second thing we must be absolutely clear on is *which Russian plot this case involves*—because it's *not* the several ones recent indictments have focused upon. [bold]Rather, it's the one that could lead to Donald Trump's impeachment and removal from office sometime in mid-2019.[/bold]

We won't last that long as democracy. If we don't take back the house, it's all over.

I stand by my theory that Maria Butina is/was fucking Trump.....the real reason she moved to Georgetown when Trump was inaugurated.

luminaries that she was connected to?

Franklin Graham?

Maria doesn't look like Trump's type. Big , blonde model types are more his thing. She looks like a small Russian peasant girl with red hair.

Release those tax returns!

Was Georgia’s Election System Hacked in 2016? Robert Mueller’s latest indictments raise new questions about the integrity of Georgia’s voting infrastructure. Why is the state stonewalling? By KIM ZETTER July 18, 2018.

I wish I could come up with lots of good guesses as to whom Mariia Butina messed around with. But I don't pay attention to conservatives other than the ones who "doth protest too much."

Paul Erickson, Dan Bongino, Donald Trump Jr.,

Link at R331 is unbelievable:

The indictment last week of 12 Russian military officers is focusing new attention on election servers in Georgia that are currently embroiled in a lawsuit between election integrity activists and the secretary of state. The activists, intent on proving that the state’s paperless voting machines are not secure and should be replaced, want to examine two state election servers to look for evidence that Russian hackers or others might have compromised them to subvert elections. But the state has been fighting them for more than a year, citing sovereign immunity from lawsuits and also insisting to the news media that Georgia was never targeted by Russian hackers.

When the Department of Homeland Security notified 21 states in 2017 that they had been targeted by Russian hackers intent on interfering with the 2016 U.S. presidential election, Georgia—despite having one of the most vulnerable voting systems in the country—was not among them. Trump won the state by nearly 6 percentage points over Democrat Hillary Clinton, whose campaign had hoped to pick up the reliably Republican state for the first time since 1992.

DHS said Russian hackers had probed websites in the 21 states looking for vulnerabilities, and in at least one state—Illinois—they found a vulnerability in a server that hosted the state’s voter registration database, allowing them to access 90,000 voter records. But the Russians were apparently unsuccessful in finding vulnerabilities in other state election sites and evidently never bothered at all with servers in Georgia, according to the agency.

This was odd because around the same time the Russians were targeting other states, a security researcher in Georgia named Logan Lamb discovered a serious security vulnerability in an election server in his state. The vulnerability allowed him to download the state’s entire database of 6.7 million registered voters and would have allowed him or any other intruder to alter versions of the database distributed to counties prior to the election. Lamb also found PDFs with instructions and passwords for election workers to sign in to a central server on Election Day as well as software files for the state’s ExpressPoll pollbooks—the electronic devices used by poll workers to verify voters’ eligibility to vote before allowing them to cast a ballot.

The unpatched and misconfigured server had been vulnerable since 2014 and was managed by the Center for Election Systems, a small training and testing center that until recently occupied a former two-story house on the Kennesaw State University campus. Until last year, the Ccnter was responsible for programming every voting machine across the state, raising concerns that if the Russians or other adversaries had been able to penetrate the center’s servers as Lamb had done, they might have been able to find a way to subvert software distributed by the center to voting machines across the state.

But Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp, who was the only state election official to refuse security assistance from the Department of Homeland Security prior to the election, has insisted for more than a year that his state’s voting systems were never at risk in the 2016 election, because DHS told him the Russians had not targeted Georgia.

Er328, please let it be hate monger Franklin Graham.

NEW: The FBI says Mariia Butina was compared to Russian spy Anna Chapman by a Russian Official, was planning to leave Washington (if not the country), and offered someone sex in exchange for a position in a special interest organization during her work in the US, per court filing

It appears Mark Meadows is not focused on Putin & conspiracy.

Is the Congressman from NC & his comrades doubling down on attacking the DOJ & FBI?

There has never been a president as tough on Russia as me. All you have to do is look at the numbers. There has never been a president as tough on Russia.

Alexander Dugin is 'Putin's Rasputin'.

[quote]To see what Dugin might advocate specifically, we can look in his bestselling book “The Foundation of Geopolitics” from 1997, which had particular success among Russian military and according to Foreign Policy (and Dugin's own words), is assigned as a textbook at Russian military universities. The book outlines a vision for Russia in the 21st century that would lead to Eurasia’s formation, but also includes specific strategies for defeating or neutralizing the United States. These include destabilization and disinformation campaigns using Russian special forces and asymmetrical warfare, splitting alliances between U.S. and countries like Germany and France, as well as fermenting division within the country itself, specifically singling out race relations. On Page 367 of the first edition of the book, Dugin explains:“It is especially important to introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S.

[quote]Maria doesn't look like Trump's type.

[quote]blonde model types are more his thing.

Exactly! Thank you!

[quote]51% of Trump voters are worried

Good.

Steven Colbert and these threads give me hope (as well as others fighting the good fight like Michel Moore). There is a vast conspiracy of dunces eager to undermine our democracy to enrich themselves and enslave the rest of us to a rigid "Christian" doctrine led by Russian inspired dictators. Reading your posts and watching Colbert making sport of those corrupt fools gives me hope that we will see an end to this with many of the most corrupt traitors executed or imprisoned.

It is so important that we seriously educate our nation's children to understand the importance of getting involved in our democracy by voting, running for office, and staying informed by following a variety of sources. So many politicians see government service as simply a cushy job with power and influence. I've worked with local politicians in my position with a major local governmental department and fortunately, as I live in a very blue area, they work hard on behalf of the people, our environment, and the health of our communities. It's a disgrace to do anything but that but people like Nunes, McConnell, and the rest of that band of scum are there only to enrich themselves and impoverish others.

It's frightening to me how easily our democracy has been corrupted and nearly destroyed. There is still time to turn it around with our vote and the incredible work being done by the Mueller team and the news media, and by news media I do not mean Fox or other right-wing propaganda sites. It gives me great hope that the Mueller team will end trump's illegitimate presidency so that we may rebuild what we're losing. Our governmental practices must be changed so that the true will of the majority is not sidelined and obliterated by the actions of a corrupt minority.

adding to r332 list of potential honeypot slurpers

Sheriff David Clarke, Dem. Rep. Gregory Meeks, Michael R. Caputo, Scott Walker

What is this new shit? MSNBC 'Breaking News' banner:

[quote] TRUMP: "No" Russia is not still targeting the U.S.

The word luminary is key. The words official, politician, leader, figure, etc.. were not used. That makes me think religious.

But it could also easily be LaPieere or the previous guy in that position.

Butina’s major U.S. political contact – and apparent lover – allegedly “visited a U-Haul truck rental facility” the day before her arrest, suggesting for the first time a rationale for the timing of her arrest the day before a high profile Donald Trump-Vladimir Putin summit in Helsinki.

“FBI surveillance over the past week has confirmed that Butina has access to funds and an intention to move money outside of the United States,” prosecutors wrote in the filing.

The motherfucker is walking back his walk back. Now, Trump is saying the DOI is incorrect and Russia is not still trying to interfere in future elections. Wrong!

R347 I really have no idea at this point if he's that stupid or if he's intentionally gas lighting.

Trump must be getting his statements from Random dot org or a Magic Eight Ball.

The investigators for Ohio State are interviewing Congressman Jim Jordan on allegedly not reporting male sexual improprieties by wrestling program Doc.

Well at least somebody is doing their job.

Trump has to shut the whole Russia meddling down, because it could get enough people supsicious about the coming mid-term election results.

The spy who shagged me.

R348: He is intentionally gaslighting in futility. Putin must have demanded he deny any future election meddling.

And they shouldn't be, R352? I know I am.

What do we think happened in that meeting?

Help with winning 2018 in exchange for turning over Browder and a few others?

That’s what I think. They’re shameless at this point. Someone needs to get the football away from either on of them. How do we know codes are not exchanged?

What is the White House staff doing going along with all this? It has to end.

[quote]the real reason she moved to Georgetown when Trump was inaugurated

Georgetown is a favorite locale of spies, historically.

Where was this during the meeting? It’s supposed to be always with the president?

Just like his "both sides" bullshit after Charlottesvile where Trump had to walk back his comments during a hostage video speech only to later walk back his walk back, he's done the same thing today about Russia meddling.

I think it's time for Grandpa to be sent to the old folks home.

lol is anybody really surprised he walked it back?

Wow it’s spectacular to see the repugs sell us out.

Why do they hate us so much? Not that it matters much now.

The IC and hopefully still the military are the only hope we have.

This is so hilarious! It gets a little in the weeds but if you can follow it, the ending is worth it

North Carolina Republicans’ Latest Judicial Power Grab May Have Backfired Spectacularly:

[quote]I think it's time for Grandpa to be sent to the old folks home.

A few high-profile faux-concerned remarks about Trump's mental and verbal confusion, and their likely age-related causes, should usefully incense the stable genius.

The sad thing, R363, is that dementia or senility is the kindest excuse one can use for Turmp's behavior. The only other rational excuse is that he's am agent of the Russian government.

someone help me out here - if I recall correctly, after 9/11 there was some sort of law enacted regarding foreign powers laundering money in the US. Or am I imagining something?

Because the goddamned terrorist NRA needs to be stripped of their 503c exemption, their assets seized and prosecuted for tax evasion and conspiracy.

From court documents submitted today in the Butina case:

“During the course of this investigation, the FBI has determined that Butina gained access through U.S. Person 1 to an extensive network of U.S. persons in positions to influence political activities in the United States. Butina, age 29, and U.S. Person 1, age 56, are believed to have cohabitated and been involved in a personal relationship during the course of Butina’s activities in the United States. But this relationship does not represent a strong tie to the United States because Butina offered an individual other than U.S. Person 1 sex in exchange for a position within a special interest organization. Further, in papers seized by the FBI, Butina complained about living with U.S. Person 1 and expressed disdain for continuing to cohabitate with U.S. Person 1."

“Further, in papers seized by the FBI, Butina complained about living with U.S. Person 1 and expressed disdain for continuing to cohabitate with U.S. Person 1."

I think she posted here a couple of times.

So which one of these assholes is 56?

Oooo! Gurl!

I'm betting $$ that her derogatory remarks about person 1 get leaked if she doesn't start talking. Because person 1 gonna be pissed!

The FBI did the same with Gotti and Gravano

The WH keeps trying to distract from the court hearings today.

Do they still have Court TV?

They need to covering these trials in detail.

Good luck CNN with your one reporter.

Oooo I need to know what trash she talked about person 1.

And since Romeo is still out there, and it’s not Person 1, who could it be?

I have a hunch it’s a religious figure. Huckabee? Rev. Graham?

Who’s the lucky dog?

This is juicier than the OJ trial.

[quote]So which one of these assholes is 56?

It's this guy -- you can see why Butina complained.

Where’s Nancy Grace when you need her?

She would give her a nickname like Foxy Spy.

Is he 56?

So the Feds have been watching her every since she first arrived to the US?

[quote]Is he 56?

Yes.

R374, or Twat Bomb

Werk that borscht-flavored firecrotch, henny!

"In addition, on July 12, 2018, Butina and U.S. Person 1 were observed entering a bank in Washington, D.C., and sending an international wire transfer in the amount of $3,500 to an account in Russia."

It's a bad day for U.S. Person 1.

And people complained that "The Americans" was too far-fetched.

Sean Hannity is 56

That is a beautiful sentence.

Hannity could (conceivably) be the "married conservative luminary," but he's not U.S. Person 1.

Spanish prosecutor characterizes a wiretap of Butina's handler as "Mr. Trump’s son should be concerned."

Some of these unnamed people need to get on a plane ASAP.

I have never felt more relieved to be U.S. Person 296,443,127!

If it wasn't for this particular ass in power, it would seem like a bad apocalypse movie.

Today he says "No" when asked if Russia is still targeting US elections. Everyone knows better, even him. So why the continued lies?

Because Moscow boss gives orders.

RUssia will invade Montenegro by September and Trump won’t say shit about it,

IMPEACH THE LIAR!

Trump Jr???

[quote]Spanish prosecutor characterizes a wiretap of Butina's handler as "Mr. Trump’s son should be concerned."

In May, Spanish police turned over to the FBI wiretaps of conversations involving Alexander Torshin, a prominent Russian banker suspected of money laundering who met with President Donald Trump's eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., during the 2016 US presidential election. Torshin has now been named by the U.S. as Butina's handler.

When José Grinda, a Spanish prosecutor who spearheads investigations into organized crime, was asked if he was concerned about Torshin's interactions with Trump Jr. or other American political figures, Grinda replied: "Mr. Trump's son should be concerned."

"a conservative luminary" is a oxymoron...

I am thinking this is Sean Hannity. This ties fox news to Putin, to nra and to donors/elected Republicans. Also, takes down the Murdock, so called conservative donors (really fascist) in Australia, UK and USA. This blows up the Fascist movements in many countries. Remember, a lot of the intelligence comes from UK.

JUST IN: Judge denies alleged Russian agent Butina's motion to appear in civilian clothes at detention hearing set to begin in a few minutes

r331 Anyone remember the Georgia special election between Ossoff and Handler? Ossoff was winning and then one large county stopped sending in results and when they started sending them again Handler suddenly had a big lead and then won.

And I forgot to add, in the indictment Friday it came out that Russia was drilling down into *county* systems looking for vulnerabilities, and one of the states they did that in was Georgia.

NEWS: Rep. ROHRABACHER tells me he could be the lawmaker referenced in the Butina indicment.

Also, he says indictment is "stupid" and that it's the "deep state" trying to poison the U.S.-Russia relationship.

The Christian Connection:

“What Was Maria Butina Doing at the National Prayer Breakfast? America’s Christian nationalists have been finding common cause with the Russian government for a while now.”

Luminaries indeed.

R396. that's exactly what lots of us have suspected since the election. Vulnerabilities in local elections. Not only the Russians could have hacked them, but corrupt local officials, too. trump is not a legitimate president. I can't wait until he's ousted and jailed.

A chilling read.

"In 1984, Bezmenov gave an interview to G. Edward Griffin from which much can be learned today. His most chilling point was that there’s a long-term plan put in play by Russia to defeat America through psychological warfare and “demoralization”. It’s a long game that takes decades to achieve but it may already be bearing fruit."

From Palmer Report: "The paperwork in the Butina case reveals that during the election, “key leaders” of the Republican Party had a backchannel with the Kremlin through the NRA." "that label would apply to positions such as the Majority Leader, Whip, and Committee Chairs."

The lying HuckBeast is at the podium.

“Here is something else I just remembered about Maria Butina.

Remember when Deputy Chief Of Staff Rick Dearborn resigned? Here's probably the reason why.”

If Maria Budina is an International Woman of Mystery, we're in a world of hurt. She looks like a Moscow day care provider.

r401....FFS PEOPLE......the charging document for Maria Butina stated THERE ARE SECRET SOCIETIES WITHIN THE GOP THAT ALIGN THEMSELVES WITH RUSSIA. How much more fucking blatant does it need to be ?

THE SPY WHO SHAGGED US!

r404, the best spies do not look like Red Sparrows in the movies.

They look exactly like Moscow daycare providers.

The lying cunt AKA SHS is back!!!!

The republican party was implementing what putin and saudis royal families wanted for years. The treason system was already built, and Trump is just the most recent treasonous whore.

This just has become clear, since the public are participating more in their democracies, understand what climate change and science is and find it disturbing that the policies of these conservative (Fascist) governments are not implementing comprehensive, evidence-based policies. They are also attacking well like democratic programs, like health care and social security.

Also, Why is the republican party supporting the saudi royal family/Putin in genocide in the Middle east? It is because they were groomed and work for them.

R408> She is trying to take back Trump's take back and on it goes....Oy, what a mess.

They need to get that fucking supoena to Kushner's ass. That is bullshit! Bitch terrified to take the stand.

^subpoena

They going in on HuckBeast's lying ass! LOL!

No doubt Trump's America will stand by idly and let Russia recoccupy the Baltic States on top of parts of Ukraine. This stuff about Montenegro (tendentiously brought up by beloved DL whipping boy Tucker Carlson) was certainly fed to Trump by Putin. For personal greed the Republicans are delivering America and its global position to Russia.

This is terrifying. Putin wants to prosecute a former ambassador and Trump hasn't said go fuck yourself.

Kellyanne was spinning Russher-Trump shit this morning faster than a smelly street ho swapping at flies.

TRE45ON

OK - For once I am team Hallie Jackson!

R416 Team Trump is selling Putin to the deplorables. The cult members will be pro-Putin before you know it. If Trump says Putin is good, they will follow. Dear Leader makes no mistake. (He only tricked the Fake News media by saying he misspoke.)

On-his-deathbed McCain has had to hit back on Twitter Twat's Putin-fed bullshit about Montenegro.

Well, if Putin helped defeat the bucktoothed cunt Hilary, then that's a good thing. We love Vlad! He's so badass!

r419....they already are.....get a load of this caller to CSPAN......

Ladies and Gentlemen, that's why we call them deplorables.

Thank you HIllary.

Today, in response to a shouted question everyone heard 'is Russia still targeting the US?'

His idiocy said, clearly and directed at the questioner, "NO!" Everyone saw it, heard it, reacted to it.

Then hours later Sarah, in her recurring role as defender and presenter of the Big Lie, tried to explain that it didn't happen. There was no answer to any such question. He was just leaving the room and looked at that reporter and barked "NO!" for no real reason. Next question.

NRA Linked Russian Pleads Not Guilty for Being a Foreign Agent.

Then the bitch requested bail. Denied!

WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE OF THE PERP WALK?

I know r424, how stupid do they think we are?

Re: The Karen BITCH Handler win- That was FISHY AS FUCK! Another election stolen.

Whoever brought up the mention of SECRET SOCIETIES within the Repug party aligned with RUSSIA- why is this not a HUGE news item? THAT is it right there. THAT is the ballgame.

It would seem as though it is leading that way, R428. Those dots just came into view and now connectible with the arrest of that Russian chick.

I saw deplorable elected official on CNN from West Virginia saying he might not vote for Pres Bone Spurs in 2020 but it was totally worth it in 2016 to get the SC.

Gotta love these types- he's tearing apart the country, our norms, our institutions, our alliances, groveling to dictators and is likely committing/ committed treason yet hey, totally worth it to get the SC.

GAWD ALMIGHTY these people are fucked in the head. Scum, vile, pure evil. Demons.

When do you think we’ll see Russian military boots on US soil?

r428.....as much coverage as the case involving Maria Butina is getting, I AM STUNNED that the MSM is ignoring what was CLEARLY STATED in her charging documents. Who shes sleeping with seems to be more important to them.

RED DAWN

AMERIKA

[quote]When do you think we’ll see Russian military boots on US soil?

Ees no boots. High heels.

They are already here! We've been Red Dawned. And we thought that movie was ludicrous!

R432 MFing media. That needs to be THE talking point of the left. Secret societies within the R's who are already aligned with Russia. However, the deplorables are in love with Russia now and like Putin. But this would peal off the few sane ones and maybe libertarians who aren't deplorables (not many but enough) to put the nail in the electoral coffin of Pres Bone Spurs and the Repugs.

They searched Maria's apartment back in April. Why did she not leave the country?

On MSNBC, Jeremy Bash just called the Butina case "Season 7 of The Americans".

Maybe she felt with Trump in charge, she’ll be all right.

god bless CNN for pushing the get the interpreter in front of Congress issue, but am I the only one who has seen clips of Putin speaking English? He seemed to do just fine, so it's possible they told their interpreters to go sit in a corner somewhere and she didn't hear anything.

The audacity that she wanted to wear civilian clothes.I want to see photos of her, or st least a good courtroom sketch.

R440 He's KGB. Of course he is fluent in English. He doesn't speak it now because he needs to project his bullshit by speaking only the mother tongue.

"At least five prosecutors from Mueller's office and two attorneys representing Andrew Miller, a former Roger Stone associate, spent almost 90 minutes in a sealed court proceeding before Chief Judge Beryl Howell of the DC District Court Wednesday morning."

German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas on Trump's attempted reversal on Russia: "This is apparently an attempt at damage limitation. It doesn't appear particularly convincing."

R437 She was told to stay and spread disinformation to the FBI.

r442 I agree, and I think they may use the interpreter as some sort of fig leave that Trump and Putin are never truly alone so it's not as scary.

Brett Kavanaugh said two years ago that he wanted to "put the final nail" in the Supreme Court ruling that upheld the constitutionality of an independent counsel.

R447 So nice of Brett after what he did for Starr during the Clinton investigation. Brett- FUCK YOU you fucking demon.

Why are these numerous Russians, including military officers, are being given Visas to enter the USA, with apparently slack monitoring?

I was not paying full attention but at the end of Nicole Wallace's show on msnbc they said something like, Cheeto has given an interview to CBS (airing tonight) and apparently he said he is holding Putin accountable for Russian meddling

I am getting vertigo from the flip-flops to evade his own lies LOL

Notice when they asked Trump a question in English about election meddling, Putin looks up with a very sly twinkle in his eyes? When T**** answers, he has a sly smirk?

All of this is just (insert something hyperbolic and even that isn't enough)!

Meanwhile shit like this is still being done. 50-49 vote. Every Repug voted for this POS and every Dem against. FUCK YOU SUSAN COLLINS and LISA MURKOWSKI. Fuck you two demons to hell.

Why are we even voting on Tre45on's nominees? NO MORE until the Mueller Report.

Okay the news about Kavanaugh should disqualify him or at least stall the process. Plus we know Trump is a manchurian candidate under investigation so there is that. He should not be allowed to appoint a new SC. justice. Fuck that.

Does anyone venture to guess who person #2?

I realize that there is a need for some clarification. In a key sentence in my remarks, I wrote the word "was" instead of "wasn't." The sentence should've been, "There wasn't NO colusion."

Looks like Stone is finally going down. This gives me joy!

If you thought things couldn't get more absurd.....

US Person 1, Paul Erickson, worked for John Wayne Bobbitt.

Update on CBS interview:

@CBSEveningNews

WATCH: President Trump tells @jeffglor he would hold Russian President Vladimir Putin "responsible" for election meddling

Would? WOULD? What is this conditional grammar shit?

One serving diplomat, who spoke to The Daily Beast on condition of anonymity, said he was "at a fucking loss" over Trump's Russia remarks.

"It's beyond disgraceful. It’s fundamentally ignorant with regard to how we conduct diplomacy or what that means."

I realize that there is a need for some clarification. I stated —"I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." I misspoke. The word 'do' should have been 'don't'.

Cheeto now claims he secretly stoop up to Putin about meddling.

There is no end to this freak show. But let's hope the playdate with Putin will be a turning point.

President Trump.... Sorry I misspoke, Prisoner Trump.

R457....Who gives a shit....he will get on national tv and lie to quelle the brewing rebellion against his ass.

[quote]he secretly stoop up to Putin about meddling

*stood up to Putin

Trump has no credibility. He had no credibility when he walked back the meaning of would. He has no credibility when he walks back the meaning of the word “no.”

Ugly American Paul Erickson was helping ugly Russian Maria Butina with her infiltration of the United States.

So Maria was trading sex for help with tearing down our Country.

Sex offerings from someone who looks like a homeless, toothless, drunk, Grandmother.

Apparently that's ALL it takes?

I'm so disappointed it wasn't Hannity.

OK media, Mueller has laid it all out there. Do your jobs.

No vodka for me.

Apparently in his interview he says that he thinks Put Put is responsible in that Put Put is the Leader of Russia and so anything that happens he's responsible for just like how he, takes responsibility for the things that the US does...

When has Baby Doo Doo ever taken responsibility for shit? I mean, someone please point it out to me as I seemed to have missed it between his servings of Obama, Hillary and her emails, and the Nasty Dems.

R336, Might that "special interest organization" be the NRA?

May I suggest - "Can't see the Forest for the Treason?"

R473 that one's definitely been on the list and in the queue!

Apparently the Russian Defense Ministry has come out with statement that there was an "agreement" about "international security" in Helsinki.

The aide said that guys like me were 'in what we call the reality-based community,' which he defined as people who 'believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.' 'That's not the way the world really works anymore,' he continued. 'We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do'.

Never thought of Richard Marx as a "whoa! total burn!" type guy but here we have it! (Way to go Richard!)

Everybody is getting in on this.

Twitter is literally smoking.

I see, not even the Treason threads are safe from a RickRoll...

All those poor farmers on Capitol Hill today. They were protesting the tariffs, and complaining that this year’s profits have been wiped out and that this year’s harvest is a wash. They still have to do ALL THAT BACK-BREAKING WORK and will see no return this year, aside from the government money they are given annually.

They were TOTALLY wiped out of the news cycle. Not even a link online to be found.

But I’m pretty sure most of them voted for him so...

R480, I saw 2 segments with farmers complaining about the tariffs today, one on CNN, the other one on MSNBC. My guess is that they did vote for Trump.

R479 Can you create a thread with that Richard Marx article? Now THIS will be a fun Trump-bashing DL thread!

Of course they voted for the POS despite his clear threats to introduce tariffs that will hurt them. I don't have any sympathy for anyone fucked over by Trump because they didn't listen to what he was saying or thought he wasn't to be "taken literally".

Reap what you sow, mf'ers!

I hate to see people who are victims of a con. They are the last ones to admit it, long after family and friends have realized the score.

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.” — George Orwell, '1984'

You could fill up an entire thread with the zingers on social media today.

Between the spy revelations and the summit, suddenly everyone’s a comedian.

R482 not the person that posted but heres your thread.

r480 Yes, all that back-breaking work for the guys doing crops-only. Why, they're so busy right now they barely have time to sit at the diner all day watching Fox waiting for harvest when they have to work for about a week, week-and-a-half. And if they can't sell all their crop....the government will buy it AND LET IT ROT NEXT TO THE DRYERS. I see it every damn year. All that food just rotting. Biggest fucking welfare queens on earth who begrudge anyone else getting any help whatsoever. And they'll vote ruby red no matter what. Fuck 'em.

Fuck them, indeed. Let them eat shit.

I used to never agree that people who were Republicans had a tendency to be stupid... I believe that now.

[quote]Yes, all that back-breaking work for the guys doing crops-only.

Que?

WHOSE back-breaking work?

Why is a smart guy like Jake Tapper on CNN saying that Trump “believes” that Russia didn’t interfere in the 2016 election? Of course Trump fucking KNOWS they interfered, he will simply never say outright that they did because they’re holding something very bad over his head! Jesus.

r491 If a Latino entered this area they'd call him MS-13 and run for the guns.

Journalist in general need to stop saying “such-and-such believes...” because they should be saying “claims to believe”

Not "claims to believe".

But I can accept "claims despite clear facts to the contrary"

Yep, Tapper and the like "objective" journalists should have figured by now that the careful language rigmaroles they are used to no longer apply. We're dealing with a potus who's a) divorced from all reality b) foreign asset and a traitor or c) all of the above. No more beating about the linguistic bush.

r495 When did this whole thing about not saying lies start? I don't remember this before Trump. They would call out Bush when he lied, and said lied. They called out Obama. God knows they had no trouble saying Hillary lied. It's only with Trump I noticed this whole "claims to believe", "falsehood" thing.

Montana DLers, what say you about Gov. Steve Bullock (D)?

Spittin' Chris Matthews was just talking to him on msnbc and prefaced by "maybe one of the Dems for 2020".

[quote]All those poor farmers on Capitol Hill today. They were protesting the tariffs, and complaining that this year’s profits have been wiped out and that this year’s harvest is a wash.

Womp, womp.

Thanks R487!

Oh, the scary womp womp monster is back. Careful what you post, you might get a womp womp. (Yyyyaaaaawwwwnnn!)

^^ And an excerpt from her Op-Ed mentioned in the above article:

Weeks later, when I recorded the president’s interview with Bill O’Reilly, I watched with disbelief as the White House communications director Hope Hicks summoned Mr. O’Reilly to the Oval Office so he could speak with Mr. Trump privately. In my five years with President Barack Obama, off-the-record discussions with reporters happened after work hours — not for an hour in the middle of the work day, and certainly not before an interview. When a president spoke on the record with a reporter, his staff made sure to have a stenographer present so there could be an official White House transcript, just in case the reporter came out with an inaccurate quotation.

But that was then, and this was the Trump era.

Mr. Trump likes to call anyone who disagrees with him “fake news.” But if he’s really the victim of so much inaccurate reporting, why is he so averse to having the facts recorded and transcribed?

President Trump did criticize Theresa May to The Sun. We know because it was recorded.

It’s clear that White House stenographers do not serve his administration, but rather his adversary: the truth.

I don't believe that Putin cannot speak or understand english. It has to be ruse.

Reuters: A federal judge on Wednesday denied a request by President Donald Trump’s former campaign manager Paul Manafort to suppress evidence seized by the FBI from his home as part of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s ongoing probe into whether Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign colluded with Russia.

Manafort’s lawyers had sought to limit the scope of evidence that prosecutors can rely on for his upcoming September trial in Washington, D.C., claiming that the search warrant was overly broad and unconstitutional.

“Given the nature of the investigation, the warrant was not too broad in scope,” wrote Judge Amy Berman Jackson for the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia in her ruling.

The GOP is neck deep in Russian corruption.

Republican Dana Rohrabacher is one of the most Russia-friendly congressmen and has met with Russia-linked figures on several occasions.

In April, Rohrabacher told Yahoo News Alexander Torshin was "sort of the conservatives' favorite Russian. The two dined together last year.

He reportedly met with the Russian lawyer and lobbyist Natalia Veselnitskaya in April 2016. She attended the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting with then-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, the president's son-in-law Jared Kushner, and Trump's eldest son Donald Trump Jr.

He met with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange in August 2017 to brief him on the Veselnitskaya meeting and link Assange up with US officials.

He and his former staff director were accused last year of violating the Magnitsky Act — a 2012 law that blacklists Russians suspected of human rights abuses — when they tried to get Russia's deputy general prosecutor removed from the US sanctions list in 2016.

Putin certainly knows English very well. Here's one example of a photographer (in 2008) saying so.

[quote]I don't believe that Putin cannot speak or understand english. It has to be ruse.

It's not unusual. At high level talks counterparts are known to use their own language even if they speak English. Putin may even want to speak Russian just as a top dog tactic.

Tie a Yellow Ribbon Rond the Old Oak Treason

^Round

Traitors and grifters!

The funds Jill Stein collected for a recount are instead being used by her campaign to pay her Russia probe legal bills, according to The Daily Beast.

WH transcript of the "No" debacle.

R503 R506 and R507 I have read more than once that Putin refuses to learn English because it is a Western language.

R512, Putin speaks English very well. He also speaks German.

R513 Oh.

Speaking English.

R512, that's fake news.

Even as KGB, Putin would've learned English. It is also a fact that he does speak English.

But as I said, top level talks are often held in the native languages, with translators.

While in the KGB, Putin was posted to Dresden and learned to speak German. KGB officers were encouraged to learn to speak English, of course.

r515 shows that not only can he speak english, but going off script and ad-libbing proves that he can think in english too. There are no pregnant pauses like you see in others who have to think in their own language, then translate it before it comes out of their mouth.

Most of the farmers I have seen who are suffering have point blank said they still support him. The only one who said they didn't was a cranberry farmer.

Protest in NYC is crazy crowded!!!

[quote]Most of the farmers I have seen who are suffering have point blank said they still support him.

r520, protest in front of the White House again tonight as well.

RESIST!!!!

Msnbc showing protests in Times Sq and DC.

Finally, people are rising up!!! This needs to continue and increase until the GOP do their fucking jobs and protect Mueller/Rosenstein, get the Treasonous Desecration out the White House and save Democracy!!!!

Ha! Rachel just showed the word "fucking" in an article quote.

Could Trump actually hand McFaul to Putin? He is meeting with his team to discuss this insanity!

Anyone know if there’s a demonstration in NYC on Saturday? I’ll make the trek.

R527 If that were to happen, which means it would have been allowed, all hell will break loose and this time we ain't just saying it for effect. Shit will go down and it will be ugly. Like epic rioting.

She's discussing the Daily Beast article quoting a serving US diplomat, about the Ambassador McFaul debacle.

Earlier, Joe Kennedy was almost at a loss of words about Cheeto "considering" handing McFaul (and Browder) to Putin.

If even a whiff of 1/10000000000000000000000000 of this was done before Trump, the Rethugs would be impeaching, and taking their guns out in the streets. Today --- crickets! I can't believe I'm living through this travesty.

TRAITORS ALL OF THEM

They’ve got the SCOTUS. & their tax cuts. They might start moving away from him.

R531> Nope. Have you been paying attention? They are crooked with Russia and will go down with the Trump ship trying to protect themselves.

[quote]If even a whiff of 1/10000000000000000000000000 of this was done before Trump

Someone said the truest thing.... if Hillary had been rightfully put into office, Repubs would currently be in the process of impeaching her for overdue book fines at Wellesley.

The ship has hit the iceberg and is sinking. The life boats are almost all gone. Most of these complicit GOP bastards will go down with the TRUMPTANIC as it rapidly sinks beneath the waves.

R531, you're naive.

One or two SCOTUS seats are just an appetizer. They want all of them.

Who's to day that the rest of the holdover Rethug SCOTUSes can't be persuaded to retire by 2020, so that Cheeto can appoint young rightwing replacements who will wreak havoc for decades? Isn't there a strong indication that that's what happened with Kennedy? I'm sure GOP is holding daily prayers for RGB to, you know (I don't even want to utter the word).

Do. Not. Waste.Hopes. On. The. Rethugs! Vote the fuckers out, that's the only remedy.

The Interior Department’s internal watchdog has launched a full investigation into a real estate deal involving a foundation established by Ryan Zinke and developers including Halliburton Chairman David Lesar, which was first reported by POLITICO last month, according to a letter the office sent to House Democrats on Wednesday.

The inspector general’s probe will focus on whether Zinke violated conflict of interest laws, the latest official inquiry of Zinke’s activities in his 16 months helming the department.

My God, there is no end to the evil that these horrid Republicans will do. Will we ever recover?

R537 it'll take decades and decades and only IF we can do something to stop them.

The Rethugs are even worse than NUTS!

I can not believe the Washington assholes who say they believe he misspoke...my god, when was there ever a more corrupt congress in our country? Republicans have always been the worst of the worst.

It’s been a goal of the GOP to establish one party rule. Google “Karl Rove New Yorker profile.” They don’t want to have a dynamic democracy they want to destroy all opposition and they’re getting there.

Back then Rove talked of destroying labor, government employees by cutting taxes to the bone and persuading Jews to vote republican by being hyper pro-Israel. These were 3 vital groups who voted democratic over the decades. They’re pretty much at their goal now.

It is telling how silent most of them were. They are scared shitless and NOT of him. This Maria Butina thing is going to blow open the whole, treasonous Repug party to its core. Along with Mueller, they going down!

I believe R542 is absolutely correct. I said the same thing to my family earlier today. BTW, has the NRA made any comments about being in the news lately?

Oh look, Trump got a clear briefing that out and out showed that Putin had ordered the election attacks before he took office.

R515 He sounds like he is going to make beeg trouble for moose and squirrel.

[quote]persuading Jews to vote republican by being hyper pro-Israel

Um, Jews make up something like 3% of the American population. The only people Republicans are trying to appease by being "hyper pro-Israel" is the evangelicals.

NYT: TRUMP BRIEFED TWO WEEKS BEFORE INAUGURATION THAT PUTIN PERSONALLY ORDERED U.S. ELECTION HACK

R546 Yes, and I've actually seen this on social media, it is because that will make Jesus come back. That is why they think Pres Bone Spurs was sent from Heaven.

r547 here, above headline from MSNBC.

Can we say Impeac.....

Lying Traitor!

FAKE PRESIDENT!

He has lied and lied and lied and lied and lied and lied about this SO MANY TIMES.

R548, that's the Christian Zionist movement. They believe that the Temple will be rebuilt, Jesus will come back, and force all of the Jews to convert. Good times!

From the NYT article:

WASHINGTON — Two weeks before his inauguration, Donald J. Trump was shown highly classified intelligence indicating that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia had personally ordered complex cyberattacks to sway the 2016 American election.

The evidence included texts and emails from Russian military officers and information gleaned from a top-secret source close to Mr. Putin, who had described to the C.I.A. how the Kremlin decided to execute its campaign of hacking and disinformation.

Mr. Trump sounded grudgingly convinced, according to several people who attended the intelligence briefing....

According to nearly a dozen people who either attended the meeting with the president-elect or were later briefed on it, the four primary intelligence officials described the streams of intelligence that convinced them of Mr. Putin’s role in the election interference.

They included stolen emails from the Democratic National Committee that had been seen in Russian military intelligence networks by the British, Dutch and American intelligence services. Officers of the Russian intelligence agency formerly known as the G.R.U. had plotted with groups like WikiLeaks on how to release the email stash.

And ultimately, several human sources had confirmed Mr. Putin’s own role.

That included one particularly valuable source, who was considered so sensitive that Mr. Brennan had declined to refer to it in any way in the Presidential Daily Brief during the final months of the Obama administration, as the Russia investigation intensified.

Instead, to keep the information from being shared widely, Mr. Brennan sent reports from the source to Mr. Obama and a small group of top national security aides in a separate, white envelope to assure its security...

[quote] Instead, to keep the information from being shared widely, Mr. Brennan sent reports from the source to Mr. Obama and a small group of top national security aides in a separate, white envelope to assure its security...

Let's hope that Orange Turd hasn't gotten his hands on that information -- because you know the traitor would turn it over to Puty-Put in a heartbeat.

I'd wager one reason they included this much detail is because sources are dead and methods are burned.

Have the deplorables come to terms yet that Trump is a Russian asset and is endangering the US and their freedom? If there was any time for his cabinet to remove him, it’s now because he is ignoring people advising him on national security. Secretary Sarah Sanders is a traitor too

Anyone who is lying for or covering up conspiracy with a foreign government should be hanged.

[quote]If there was any time for his cabinet to remove him

Not likely, since the Russians signed off on most of his cabinet.

Woah! We need a new thread! OP!! :)

One day record!

Miss Linsey, Miss Lindsey,

A nation turns it's lonely eyes to you.

You have assumed the role of going behind Trump with absurd adulation to fix Trump's daily boo-boos. But one must say Miss Lindsey, you miss the mark.

R560 and R561 still time for the new thread. This could go by tonight, tomorrow... or even later. 40 posts are unpredictable.

And I think the first thread actually finished in one day.

OK - You're on it! Thanks!! :-)

Especially if we're on Primetime this could go until tomorrow afternoon.

[quote] R51: Wow that statement from the President, so forceful, so strong

Haha! “Loud” is not “strong”. He’s just “stupid” at a volume that everyone can hear.

He actually called Drumpf a liar. More need to do so.

[quote] R29: Trump HAS to believe Russia didn't interfere because otherwise it calls his election win into question. He has to believe that he is so brilliant to defeat Hillary.

I don’t believe it. I think this is a false flag. The real reason is TREASON. This reason, above, isn’t as bad as TREASON, so it’s been promoted by the Trump crew.

He's such a fuck.

[quote]Trump HAS to believe Russia didn't interfere because otherwise it calls his election win into question. He has to believe that he is so brilliant to defeat Hillary.

No, he knows he didn't defeat Hillary but he NEEDS everyone else to believe he did.

I love how Ana takes no shit.

Link to new thread when this one maxes out.

If you get to the end of this thread please link the new one.

Will Jared Kushner make sure his hole is clean when he gets sent to the slammer to be slammed?

Trump Pig must be getting the McDiaherra at the mo

Lincoln's wife turned off the lights.

Donald Trump in bed in diapers beating off to Putin's dick

Thanks to OP I can't get Dusty out of my head.

I don't know why it surprises me but the fact that so many Deplorables can still defend Orange astounds me.

Link to new thread.

R577

Fuck Sanders. I want him to get an indictment just as much as I want Mitch and Paul to.

I love the very last thing Navarro says in that clip. Now there is someone I can respect on the Right since she actually puts country over party.

R586 I really didnt need that image, thanks.

Sanders, Bernie and his wife both need to get indictments. Along with Stein.

R593 The Bernie Bros would be so triggered.... it would be so entertaining.

R594 especially the ones that voted for Orange.

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Goodnight Lurkers and Trump Haters! Goood night ALLL

Why are some people so anxious to close a thread?

It's all Hillary's fault!

I want to fuck Jared in the PUSSAY

How about a kiss?

I don't wand AIDS

r605 Are you naked bro?

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