Don't Stop (the) Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 24)

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Previous thread titles for reference:

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation (10/27/17)

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation, Part Two (10/28/17)

The Four Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 3 (10/31/17)

A Man For All Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 4 (11/5/17)

It's Beginning to Look a lot like Treason! The Mueller Investigation Part 5 (12/4/17)

Treason Is The Reason For The Season! The Mueller Investigation Part 6 (12/16/17)

Treason to Believe (The Mueller Investigation Part 7) (12/26/17)

I Love You For Sentimental Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 8) (1/3/18)

Give Me One Treason To Stay Here... (The Mueller Investigation Part 9) (1/15/18)

Treasons of Love (The Mueller Investigation Part 10) (1/24/18)

For Treasons Which Are Well Known To Them (The Mueller Investigation Part 11) (1/30/18)

Come on and Treason Down, Treason Down the Road (The Mueller Investigation Part 12) (2/6/18)

13 Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 13) (2/18/18)

By Treason of Insanity (The Mueller Investigation Part 14) (2/23/18)

The Edge of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 15) (2/28/18)

A Treason to Live; A Treason to Die (The Mueller Investigation Part 16)…(3/10/18)

Treasons of the Heart (The Mueller Investigation Part 17) (3/17/18)

A Stormy Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 18) (3/21/18)

Lovin', Touchin', Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 19) (3/26/18)

Everything Happens for a Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 20) (4/4/18)

For All the Right Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 21) (4/11/18)

Treasons Change (The Mueller Investigation Part 22) (4/16/18)

Dangerous Tre'asons (The Mueller Investigation Part 23) (4/22/18)

Don't Stop (the) Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 24) (5/1/18)

This morning Sarah let her natural beauty shine through. I wonder why she ditched the smokey eye?

She should have ditched that hideous shirt. Who let her out of the house in that? That woman obviously has no gay friends.

Who, indeed?

Now don't you go castin' that beady little eye on me, sodomite. Tuesday is chicken 'n' dumplin' day at Cracker Barrel and when I weren't preformin' my clerkly duties at work I done got myself all wedged up in one of their skinny-folk booths for lunch [italic]and[/italic] dinner.

I got these here table marks embedded in my underbra roll to prove it!

MSNBC reporting that Ty Cobb (and his mustache) are "retiring". In other words, he’s quitting.

Thorough corruption from one end of the globe to the other.

Rudy Giuliani taking over legal team in a power struggle.

It’s infuriating but Trump et al are guilty and stalling for time. They are hoping a NK settlement will keep their majorities in Congress come November, but we may be entering a recession by then given that corporations are using the tax breaks for stock buyouts, not new jobs or innovations. The Trump base have been fully brainwashed at this point. They literally don’t care if he is guilty, a liar and corrupt

OP, for a quick second the title was a reference to Bryan Ferry's Don't Stop The Dance.

Mark Meadows & Jim Jordan pulling shit against the judicial process needs intervention by their Congressional colleagues. The House Republicans know collusion and obstruction have happened; and they are committed to protecting crimes and their leader and co-conspirators.

Sorry, for a quick moment I THOUGHT the title was a reference to ..

So many small things in the lyrics

[quote] Mama says truth is all that matters [quote] Lying and deceiving is a sin [quote] Drifting through a world that's torn and tattered

...

[quote] Mama says only stormy weather

Does anyone else feel that this investigation is really starting to pick up steam? Will Trump still be our President by fall??

They don't see it now, but politicians, such as Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell, and Paul Ryan, will go down in history as deniers and/or enablers of crimes against America by the Putin-DJT conspiracy cartel. It will not be a pretty legacy for them.

The Koch Bros are not deities either,

Cambridge Analytica (CAM ANAL) is officially shitting down as per WSJ.

*shutting

So Mr Mustache, Ty Cobb, is out and Emmett Flood is in as White House lawyer. This is bad news. I saw Flood on MSNBC last night and was scared by his advice. He said trump should never talk to Mueller and suggested strategy that will stretch this thing out for a long time. It all just makes me sick. So many enablers of evil. America is a shit hole country now.

get fucking lost Concern troll

[quote]I saw Flood on MSNBC last night and was scared by his advice. He said trump should never talk to Mueller and suggested strategy that will stretch this thing out for a long time

Eh. Just now a former special counsel and a WH legal counsel were commenting on msnbc that anyone in this position would have the same advice.

They delayed the sentencing of Flynn for two months because supposedly Flynn has been cooperating?

Trump has added five new lawyers? Are the tax payers footing the bill?

Mueller doesnt need Trump to talk....all he needs to do is indict Junior, and Jared.....and poof...game over.

Guilliani told WaPo that Trump’s legal team is going to push Mueller to demonstrate what evidence he has and limit his questions for the president. “Some people have talked about a possible 12-hour interview,” he said, adding, “That’s not going to happen, I’ll tell you that. It’d be, max, two to three hours around a narrow set of questions.”

Since when do subjects of an investigation get to dictate the terms of the inquiry?

Trump and his band of Goons have gotten away with everything so far. He is going nowhere. Just think six more years of his "I saved the Olympics", "I brought peace to North and South Korea", "I saved the world".

"Trump should never talk to Mueller."

Golly gee, but I wonder why lawyer President Bill Clinton never thought of that! Just. Say. No!

Bwahahahaha! Yeah, that'll work.

r14, the thing is that these people do not give a fuck about how they will be remembered. All they see themselves is as laughing all the way to the bank.

It's another one of these "inside jokes" where the common folk is supposed to be good in order to be remembered as good. Like be a good obedient sheep and get a glorious afterlife in heaven.

I love Mueller' strategy. Does anyone else believe that he has enough shit on Trump to hang him but is just waiting to see what other gems come out of the Cohen raid?

[quote]Since when do subjects of an investigation get to dictate the terms of the inquiry?

They don't. Giuliani can say anything he wants but Mueller is under no obligation to listen, and he likely won't, based on what we've seen thus far. It's just empty bluster.

Trump is getting ready to fire Rosenstein and Mueller and there won't be a god damned Republicunt that will lift a finger and in fact, with the help of Fox will fire up Trumps base and Trump will stay where he is unless the left and the sane people rise up. Not sure of what will happen. I'm not a " fucking concern troll" but IMHO all bets are off. We are living in crazy times. Never thought I'd see the US so fucked up. And the main stream media are no help but more like a hindrance.

I just hope we, the decent American people, won't take this. Let's open those windows and scream " I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take this shit anymore .

Better than that, R30, get on the list for the Mueller firing alert in your area. Be ready to go and make your sign now. There's an organized calling chain all set up and ready to go.

I agree I think Rosenstein and Mueller are gone by Friday

Sorry if that goes off topic, but Cambridge Analytica gets a new shiny name: Emerdata. Same people involved, new name. Surely that will get people off their backs.

It's crap like that, R33, that makes me want a corporate death penalty.

Regarding Cambridge Analytica. CA was shut down as in closing shop but the players (Mercers, etc.) just started a new company which is Emerdata. Yes, a totally new company but - most likely - with the same purpose.

All this dismal news of crime and politics.

Instead, pay attention to the exciting things that are happening!

One of the things that makes Trump such a bad leader is that he is simultaneously impulsive and indecisive. His tendency is to generate chaos and disruption rather than take clear steps to do anything. For that reason, I think he's likely to keep harassing and threatening Rosenstein and Mueller rather than actually firing them.

Trump is so obsessed with “collusion” because he knows he’s guilty of it. He thinks if he can only get out ahead of that one, he’ll beat it.

I am signed up to march in protest with move on .org when/if Rosenstein / Mueller are fired. I'm not putting up with that lying treasonous piece of orange pus in the people's house. And he can take Uday Qusay and his whore wife and beloved Ivanka with him. Poor Barron.

Trump could cut his perception problems at least in half if he could just keep his fucking mouth shut.

Instead, he can't help but speak and tweet as though the world wouldn't turn unless he vomited out every thought and, in doing so, draws endless attention to the very things he is so likely guilty of having done. I've never seen such transparently guilty behavior from anyone. It staggers me that he's gotten away with this shady bullshit for so long. He is his own worst enemy.

And, most shockingly, he seems to surround himself exclusively with people who are just as monumentally stupid and woefully incompetent as himself. You'd think that at least one of the crooks in the getaway car would know what he's doing, but it seems like Trump doesn't even have one smart person on his rotating roster of criminals.

Why are we even having this political battle? The MSM is buying into the whole legal defense bullshit, rather than demanding that Trump resign because of his crimes. There is absolutely no discussion about policy, for example, what a giant failure Trump’s tax cuts are - where are the new jobs? Not happening. It’s all very discouraging and a giant waste of taxpayer money

Can't Mueller just subpoena the Orange shitstain?

He's threatened to, R42, but nobody really knows the answer. We're in uncharted territory now that may end up being settled by the Supreme Court.

He is acting like the guiltiest motherfucker ever!

I hate song title threads.

Oh well, Happy New Thread everybody!

On MSNBC, some former justice department folks were saying that Mueller wouldn’t even float the idea of a subpoena to Trump's lawyers if he hadn’t already vetted the idea with Rosenstein. The Justice Department will put its full weight behind a subpoena if it comes to it.

Reason #417 why Trump wants to get rid of Rosenstein, I imagine.

We might be getting the Apprentice tapes.

[quote]You’re getting me excited

[quote]You’re putting your finger on it

Pron?

Think again.

[quote]Thank you for cumming on THE BEAT

Well put, R40.

R47 sounds like that will only cover the stuff specifically said about her and not him using the N-word...

Not that his cultists care either way.

Who would care if he said the "N" word at this point?

The Deplorables won't care, and the rest of us are already disgusted by him and his racist ways.

Jesus used that word all the time. Another mulligan!!!

I wonder if he refers to Barron as “my son the retard” on those tapes.

BREAKING: Former Trump aide Michael Caputo was just interviewed by Mueller. His comments are damning for Trump:

"The Senate and the House are net fishing. The special counsel is spearfishing. They know what they are aiming at and are deadly accurate.”

R55 what’s the source for this story?

Lawrence O'Donnell is reporting that Giuliani was just on Fox admitting that Trump paid Cohen back the $130,000, funneling it through another lawyer. Ha! Way to go, Rudy.

Rudy is a shit show

Gulliani on Hannity : Trump reimbursed Cohen for the $130000 and that Trump fired Comey because he wouldnt tell Trump he wasnt under investigation.

So in just a few minutes RG fucked Trump TWICE.

Rudy can't be this dumb, can he?

Too beautiful...

Rudy is so decrepit and senile.

[quote]Rudy can't be this dumb, can he?

Of course not, he did it deliberately to provide cover for something even worse.

And in other news, Rachel Maddow was reporting that Trump's lawyers are freaking out cuz neither Trump not Michael Cohen will tell them what was in the seized files. Glorious.

[quote]Funneled through a law firm, and the president repaid it,” Giuliani said.

OMG!

Michael Avenatti right now

Rudy is admitting Trump and Cohen are liars. Unbelievable

So Rudy will found floating in the East River tomorrow morning?

I guess they know the FBI has evidence that Trump paid off the loan. But it is a really bad move to make Rudy the spokesman. He’s basically admitting that Trump funneled money and broke campaign finance laws

[quote]So Rudy will found floating in the East River tomorrow morning?

Let's hope so!

The Trump re-payment was stated to get around a campaign finance violation. That money could have been garnered from campaign funds, and Trump claims he simply paid it. But he has already repeated lies about it.

[quote]And in other news, Rachel Maddow was reporting that Trump's lawyers are freaking out cuz neither Trump not Michael Cohen will tell them what was in the seized files.

I can’t imagine why his lawyers would admit this, which makes me wonder what’s really going on.

Ha. I bet Giuliani hasn't been paying attention to the news recently while wiling away his dotage and has no idea what he just did. He'll know soon. Trump and Avenatti are both going to go apeshit!

....and if what Trump says is true, its not a campaign finance violation.....but it is money laundering.

R72, who says it was the lawyers who leaked it. I bet you can't get within 1000 yards of the Oval Office without hearing the yelling. And, I'm sure the bunch of morons he hired as lawyers are walking around the entire West Wing yapping their mouths off in frustration.

Rudy should have worn his drag outfit. His demeanor is way more positive in drag.

They may have seized evidence of Russian kompromat, including the golden shower tape, or the Apprentice nigger tapes, or any other embarrassing evidence showing blackmail and corruption

Trump must be freaking out right now. LMFAO.

[quote]The Trump re-payment was stated to get around a campaign finance violation. That money could have been garnered from campaign funds, and Trump claims he simply paid it. But he has already repeated lies about it.

His lies aren’t prosecutable, a campaign finance violation would be. Besides, everybody already knows he lies. A poll this week revealed that most of his supporters don’t believe him about Stormy — and they don’t care that he’s lying.

More like this, R66

To me it doesn’t matter that he repaid Cohen, it’s still a campaign violation because it was an unreported benefit to the campaign. Trump’s endless parade of lies are tiresome

Daily Beast: Rudy Giuliani, one of President Donald Trump’s lawyers, told Fox News’ Sean Hannity on Wednesday night that the president fired James Comey because Comey refused to tell Trump he wasn’t under investigation as part of the Russia probe. Giuliani’s comments contradicted the White House’s official position on firing Comey, which was his handling of the Hillary Clinton email investigation. Giuliani also called Comey a “disgraceful liar.”

Hmm, so now we know Trump won from Russian collusion and hiding hush money payments to a porn star right before the election. Sad

Based on Trump's record of dishonesty, we are entitled to doubt him if he says that he repaid Cohen with his own funds, not campaign funds.

Ruby Julie iz vat ve how you say [italic]nespameten.[/italic]

It would be funny if Mueller has evidence Cohen used campaign funds. Complete shit show of lies and incompetence

Rudy has met with Mueller, and may now understand that certain Trump lies are absolutely unsustainable. He went on Hannity to get the word to Trump's followers first, on the ground that it's best that you hear bad news from a friend.

MJ Lee @mj_lee

Just asked @MichaelAvenatti to react to Rudy comments about Trump paying back Cohen on Stormy $:

“I am stunned and speechless. If this is accurate, the American people have been lied to and deceived for months. And justice must be served.”

Ghouliani, his entitled lisp, and his cognitive dissonance: only the best people for our like, really smart, stable genius!

It started as a weekly scandal by Tump; then a new one every other day. Then, the daily new scandal. Now, it is a new one almost every other hour.

And meanwhile, Congress is fingering their own asses, with some openly trying to help Trump obstruct justice.

Kirsten Gillibrand got aggressive and forced fellow Democrat Al Franken out of office; but she won't get enraged over Trump's antics and demand action?

I'm sure Avenatti is at home right now blasting Robert Palmer's Addicted To Love while throwing one mean power fuck to his wife/girlfriend/whatever while pouring Dom over his head in celebration.

I gotta be honest here - anyone who still sticks with Trump after these revelations is very low on the moron scale

A former Trump person who was just interviewed by Mueller told CNN today...

“(The Mueller team) knows more about the Trump campaign than anyone who worked there.”

Sciutto is talking about Michael Caputo.

"Funneled" through a law firm. I guess Trump can be glad Grandpa 911 didn't use the word laundered.

Also tonight....

"A former federal law enforcement official familiar with the department’s views said that Mr. Rosenstein and top F.B.I. officials have come to suspect that some lawmakers were using their oversight authority to gain intelligence about that investigation so that it could be shared with the White House."

In my dreams they made that public because Devin and his merry band of traitors are about to be frog-marched out of Congress in handcuffs.

I liked Caputo when he said he was not pretty enough to pay back his $125K in legal fees

Yes, Caputo told Anderson that the Mueller team has Trump campaign emails and texts.

Caputo also made it sound like Mueller's team was groveling for any evidence of "collusion" they could find, and Caputo's personal opinion was that Trump would be in the clear. I think Caputo was lying. Or he's almost as dumb as Guiliani, (nobody could be dumber than Rudy!).

Love Eric Swalwell. On MSNBC now.

Caputo was just telling Trump via CNN to not sit down for an interview. My take is that he knows the jig is up

A pathologically lying President is a WEAK President.

President Tramp, you are a traitorous, thieving worm!

Rudy actually said tonight that Comey was "a very perverted man"? This is coming from the Trump White House--what could possibly be their standard for "perversion"?

It will get worse for Trump tomorrow. Somebody will be interviewing Maxine Waters.

r100 Agree. He's been sending Trump signals through the press all day Mueller knows everything.

They're calling Comey a perverted, pathological liar because Trump is a perverted, pathological liar who projects all his own faults and crimes onto others.

They are desperate. How do Trump supporters rationalize away his lies and immorality? Unbelievable

I believe, in the buzarro world of Trump, it means that he can't be bought.

Fucking nitwit evangelicals; NO, Trump was not sent to you by Jesus. Franklin Graham & Jerry Falwell Junior have misled you.

So Rudy basically gave Mueller a stronger case for obstruction for the Comey firing, by describing a clear intent. Bravo!

So now there are three versions from the Trump side for this firing:

1) the official one: it was because of the DOJ (Rod Rosenstein's memo on Comey) letter which faulted Comey with mishandling the Clinton email probe -- which is being proven bogus with every passing day

2) Cheeto's admission to Lester Holt: because of "the Russia thing"

3) now Rudy: Trump fired Comey because he wouldn't say he wasn't a target of the investigation -- which is as clear of an intent as you can get

Case closed

The hits keep on coming with such speed that I already forgot what imbecilic stuff Cheeto said on Fox&Friends.

He's due for another phone-in.

Tweet by Ted Lieu:

4 possible felonies from Rudy Giuliani admission:

1. $130k payment to Stormy was in-kind coordinated contribution above limits

2. Cohen was a straw donor used to cover up true source of contribution

3. False statements on financial disclosures

4. False statements on banking forms

Didn’t Clinton get impeached because he lied ? How many times has The Orange Bastard done the same?

Rudy is clearly trying to do a magician's slight of hand trick and distract us from what he's really afraid of.

The issue isn't whether or not Trump paid Cohen back, it's where Cohen got the money in the first place, and if the need to distract us is so important it's worth dragging Trump into it directly, that tells you the money probably came from the campaign.

Correct, R112. The campaign paid Cohen $129,998. That’s not suspicious at all.

Clinton lied under oath, r111. We just have to wait until Trump does so. But it will have to happen against many a lawyers’ advice.”

Well, duh. That's why everybody around Trump does not want him to talk to Mueller. I bet when Trump resigns he will mention that at least he didn't lie LIKE BILL CLINTON!

r32, there is that little thing called good cause. There isn't any.

Rudy is trying to play hardball, but he's not very good at it.

From R108:

[quote] 3) now Rudy: Trump fired Comey because [Comey] wouldn't say [that Trump] wasn't a target of the investigation -- which is as clear of an intent as you can get

This is pretty damning. Rudy is an idiot for ever uttering these words. What the fuck was he thinking? You have tRump admitting on national television to Lester Holt that he fired Comey because of "this Russia thing" and now we have Rudy saying essentially the same thing. Looks like a fairly clear case of obstruction.

It will be delightful to see the sputtering Ghouliani try and explain his way out of this.

Cambridge Analytica is shutting down. Where will those records go or have they been destroyed? Has Rebekah Mercer and her dad been asked?

Does this refer to the Stormy Daniels’ attorney who wants some bank report released that may show transfer irregularities? I seem to remember him talking about the bank uncovering a wire problem.

So, what next will Pecker & the National Enquirer publish trying to get Trump out of Stormy trouble?

One supposes Miss Lindzey will be tweeting new attacks on the DOJ within a couple of hours and have her daily Fox interview.

CNN talking head Ken Cuccinelli.

Total BDF

Lesson for the Trumpies: Never hire a senile lawyer (even if you're running out of good options).

R119 it is not shutting down. It's just renaming itself.

R123 that's not even close to the definition of being a BDF.

THIS is a BDF.

And now for something completely different! On Tuesday, Tramp prattled on about adding a 6th military division to be known as the Space Force. LMAO...

Um, let's keep the "something completely different" posts for "something completely different" threads, R36 and R127.

Infuriating that a sitting President cannot be indicted with such overwhelming lies, violations, and obstruction of justice. Is this what Ghouliani's strategy is banking on?

Michael Avenatti tweeted that Trump absolutely will resign, no way will he survive this.

I love Michael Avenatti.

I sure hope so, R130. I think he'll wait until the midterms are over to see how that shakes out for him. His ego would never allow him to be impeached and if the GOP wants to survive, they'll urge him to resign by letting him know he will have to run as an independent if he want re-election. This is some weird ass shit we're going through as a country and it will get weirder.

I love Michael Avenatti, too, R130, and he's the sharkiest lawyer I've ever seen. So much respect for Stormy and her choices. GO STORMY!

On Nov. 7th, Trump will start discreetly coughing at a speech. Nov. 8th, his Dr. Feelgood-du-jour will announce that he’s gravely ill. Nov. 9th, Mother Pence will start removing all that tacky gold from the residence.

This is playing out like an episode of Homeland, only much slower.

According to the NYT, Trump was well aware of what Giuliani was going to say to Hannity regarding the Stormy Daniels payment, so it's clear - as others noted - that the admission was to get around any possible campaign fund violation issue. Since Trump lies constantly, what's one more to his base and to the GOP?

Trump double-crossed Stormy on a promise she would get a gig appearing on The Apprentice. Big mistake. She's not dumb, and has Avenatti as her lawyer who is aggressive, smart, articulate, photogenic, and popular with the media and many viewers.

It seems pretty telling that they're so worried about the FEC violation.

Imagine Lindsey and Rudy getting together and trying on each other's gowns while talking shop with Hannity.

R134, all we know from the NYT article is that, for now, the Trump teams wants us to think Trump was aware of what Giuliani was going to say. That doesn't mean it's true.

OK, R138, but given how Trump goes off at a moment's notice, for his team to try and make us believe that would be a fool's errand. Trump does not like having his own team make him out as a liar on TV and all he would do is contradict that narrative with a single tweet.

R139, but what else is new?

Guiliani just tied the campaign to this on Fox and Friends. He fucked it up again.

Good grief, Meadows, Jordan, Gaetz, Biggs, Nunes, and a dozen or so other House Republicans, look as if they want to destroy the DOJ and dismantle the FBI just to protect Trump.

Call these people out.

In so doing, R141, Giuliani admitted that the Trump campaign violated campaign finance laws. They are trying to get us used to the idea that "Trump broke a lot of laws, sure, but it's not a big deal."

[quote]Giuliani admitted that the Trump campaign violated campaign finance laws.

He's been all over right-wing media this morning, explaining why it isn't a campaign violation, but his reasoning doesn't make a lot sense. (To me -- his interviewers seem to swallow it whole.)

A sixth grade girl flips Republican Congressman Matthew Gaetz the middle finger.

Gaetz has been a leading Congressional advocate in trying to get Mueller removed and the investigation shut down.

Maybe it really is the bold kids and teens that know bullshit when they hear it, and are willing to show how they truly feel.

I'm glad Guiliani is clearing this up. Nothing to see here and the folks in the media are helping set the record straight.

R146 How's the weather in St. Petersburg today?

I guess Rudy has become the Uncle Remus of Fix News, telling lies and fairytales wherever he goes.

How are we now at a point where the President can tell lies because “that’s not illegal”? Terrible

Could this be Trump's orchestrated exit strategy? Going down for Stormy instead of the much worse collusion with Russia?

On "Fox & Friends," Judge Napolitano said that Giuliani's claim that Trump gave Cohen $130,000 and didn't know where it was going is "unworthy of belief."

What's the deal with Kellyanne's husband? He's batting for the Avenatti team.

Rudy putting the final nail in the coffin this morning on Fox&Friends.

GIULIANI: ...Imagine if that came out on Oct. 15, 2016, in the middle of the last debate with Hillary Clinton?

Q: So to make it go away, they made this deal?

GIULIANI: Cohen didn't even ask. Cohen made it go away. He didn't even ask.

All those godly people....

Kaitlan CollinsVerified account @kaitlancollins

A guest at the White House for the National Day of Prayer event tells me I am “pitiful and disgusting” for reporting that President Trump reimbursed his attorney for the $130,000 he paid a porn actress. I think you’re gonna have to take that up with Trump, sir.

Their argument that “wealthy people do this all the time” is pathetic. I still think it’s a campaign violation

Rudy:

"......funneled through a law firm."

Doesn't the word "funneled" sound very shady when referencing the flow of money? This isn't about decorating a birthday cake.

Stumbled across this gem.

^I like the kid who says his parents, "like him because he speaks his mind but I hate him."

Didn't Rudy also say this morning that Cheeto learned about the payments just a month or so ago.

While last night he said Cheeto repaid over a period of months after the election.

And Cohen was saying just recently that he wasn't paid back.

So: Did Cheeto pay Cohen only after Cohen complained about it in the media?

[quote]And Cohen was saying just recently that he wasn't paid back.

Wasn't that the original story/lie that flagged it as a contribution violation?

I think of trump as Cheato.

Avenatti just now: Giuliani isn't ready for prime time.

Avenatti: David Schwartz, the president's attorney, had said the payment had nothing to do with the election. Now Rudy confirms it had everything to do with the election.

I had an experience with a Trump voter yesterday. I told him that Trump needs to stop tweeting as he's hanging himself every time. He got very agitated and started ranting about Hillary, Obama "ruining the country" (I've never understood what that meant and they can't explain), Chicago and that his needs to stop NOW so Trump can "fix the country".

They know he's guilty but they don't care. I guess if it's their guy in the WH it's okay for rampant criminality to flourish.

Vanity Fair is having some fun at Rudy's expense

RUDY GIULIANI FANTASIZES ABOUT RIDING TO IVANKA TRUMP’S RESCUE

The “disposable” Jared Kushner, meanwhile, would be left to fend for himself.

Quote: “Ivanka Trump?” Giuliani asked Sean Hannity last night, his eyes bugging out of his head. “I think I would get on my charger and go right into—run into their offices with a lance if they go after her,” the 73-year-old told the Fox News host,

[quote] "......funneled through a law firm."

Rudy meant to say "laundered through a fun firm." Spoonerism, you know.

Funneled means hidden

America’s Mayor.

SO HE ADMITTED HE LIED AND ATTEMPTED TO COVER UP THE STORMY AFFAIR.

SO HE ESTABLISHED A PATTERN OF LYING AND COVER UPS.

CASE CLOSED.

[quote]Obama "ruining the country" (I've never understood what that meant and they can't explain)

Republican talk-show host Dennis Prager, author of a new book on traditional Biblical morality and a man who is now on his third marriage, continually describes Obama as, "The most destructive president in the history of this nation."

Because gays Iran healthcare lib'rul media something something something.

Whenever they say Obama did this, or Hillary did that, just insert the word Trump to get the truth

Obama destroyed 'Merica by being black. Oh, and gay marriage.

Obama was a liar really means Trump is a liar

Comey is a pervert really means Trump is a pervert

Hillary should be in jail really means Trump should be in jail

Rudy is implying Ivanka is above investigation and prosecution due to being female? Tell that to Martha Stewart. He has been vicious toward Hillary Clinton for decades.

Rudy further sees Ivanka as young and attractive, and as Trump's daughter, she must be legally untouchable.

Ivanka is a tax-payer paid, government employee as "advisor" to Trump. If she can't handle scrutiny, then don't have office nepotism. Also, Ivanka was deeply involved in the campaign, and her Trump-related business dealings are intertwined in some of these domestic and international shananigans. She's married to Jared whose in all kinds of trouble with similar stuff.

Where's Kristen Gillibrand in speaking out that femininity is no exemption when it comes to federal inquires and pursing justice?

Ooooh shit!

Breaking on MSNBC: Mueller has wiretaps of Michael Cohen's phone conversations!

Things do seem to be accelerating, no?

[quote]Tramp prattled on about adding a 6th military division to be known as the Space Force.

Wasn't that a Saturday morning cartoon?

R174, the wiretapping was previously reported in April. What's news is about at least one phonecall between Cohen and the White House.

Ah. Rudy's performance makes sense now. There is something so bad on those wiretaps this was their best play.

^^ sorry wrong link

It is not clear how long the wiretap has been authorized, but NBC News has learned it was in place in the weeks leading up to the raids on Cohen's offices, hotel room, and home in early April, according to one person with direct knowledge.

At least one phone call between a phone line associated with Cohen and the White House was intercepted, the person said.

Previously, federal prosecutors in New York have said in court filings that they have conducted covert searches on multiple e-mail accounts maintained by Cohen.

FBI also learned Cohen intended to destroy evidence.

I'm thinking that this leak is aimed at Cohen; they need him to flip and they're demonstrating just how much they have on him.

Maybe they have Trump on tape telling Cohen to destroy evidence.

To me, Trudy's comment about Ivanka might mean they know there's a reason to go after Ivanka and they have a tip off that it's any day until Treason of the Witch.

Cohen will flip in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...

Everyone in this crew is such a viper it might even be Cohen himself leaking this in revenge for the National Enquirer story Trump had published.

Special counsel Robert Mueller focusing sharply on links between Trump confidant Roger Stone and former campaign official Rick Gates, sources say

Kyle Griffin: Two sources close to Rudy Giuliani tell NBC News that Giuliani learned that days after the Cohen raid, Trump made a call to Cohen. Giuliani then told Trump never to call again out of concern the call was being recorded by prosecutors.

Oh, dear. It looks like it's Roger's time in the barrel.

"funneled" = money laundering = tax evasion

I think a lot of you are very wrong on this. Rudy isn't senile, he's not messing up, this is a clear and direct attempt to cut their losses.

If Trump didn't approve/like what Rudy was saying we'd hear about it.

Sam Stein: Guys, Giuliani also suggested there were other, similar, payments to the Stormy ones during the campaign

[quote]I think a lot of you are very wrong on this. Rudy isn't senile, he's not messing up, this is a clear and direct attempt to cut their losses.

Correct. Whether it's a good strategy to accomplish that is questionable. WH leaks indicate Trump and Rudy cooked up this scheme on their own, and didn't share their intentions with anybody.

So Giuliani admits Trump lied about paying hush money to Stormy on HANNITY, then blurts out on FOX & FRIENDS that it was done for the sake of the 2016 election, and now implies there were more payments to other women?

FauxNews, keep Rudy on air 24-7 for the next few days to finish confessing to the whole shebang.

What does the Fox News audience say about the new developments? I mean how can they spin this? Guiliani point blank states that Trump lied and is in deep shit because of what happened between him Stormy and his lawyer / fixer Cohen.

Sarah Smokey Eye now effectively admitted Trump lied to her and she thus lied to the public.

Jeremy Diamond @JDiamond1:

@PressSec said she learned from Giuliani interview last night that @realDonaldTrump had reimbursed Michael Cohen for the $130,000 hush money payment to Stormy Daniels

When answering questions about the payment just 2 months ago, Sanders said she had asked Trump about them and said: “There was no knowledge of any payments from the president."

Visual from the presser:

That black female journalist is all of us when we look at Sarah. We have to squint to limit the damage.

I’d love that fat fuck David Schwartz to sit beside Avenatti on CNN and try to defend his dear friend Michael Cohen now.

Ted Lieu just tweeted re: the wiretapping of Cohen:

Whoa. Harder for law enforcement to get a wiretap authorized than a normal warrant. This means an independent federal judge reviewed the evidence & concluded there was "probable cause" that Michael Cohen "is committing, has committed, or is about to commit" one or more felonies.

Who in the WH during the National Day of Prayer is having their prayers answered today?

OMG Rudy has gone bonkers!

Rudy Giuliani called for Attorney General Jeff Sessions to intervene in the Michael Cohen case and put the people behind the probe “under investigation” in a phone call with The Hill on Thursday.

“I am waiting for the Attorney General to step in, in his role as defender of justice, and put these people under investigation,” Giuliani said, reacting to an NBC News report that phones belonging to Cohen, President Trump’s longtime personal attorney, had been tapped by investigators.

Total Rudy and Trump panic!

Comrade Trump's in deep shit, and his "best people" are shoving more on top!

Hold on to that feeling!

No, this is too much talking without any substance to get ahead of the story. Either that or it's a major distraction. I cannot believe that Trump would let him go on like this without approval. Either they believe impeachment proceedings will go ahead against Rosenstein, or they have enough dirt on members of Congress that they have absolutely no fear.

Remember when he was on the sidelines fucking Judith Nathan? I miss those days. Pleasetake him back Judi.

I think people are giving Rudy way too much credit - he is stupid and thinks he can Fox & Friends his way out of embarrassing admissions that harm Trump. It’s fine with me if he keeps blathering away because he is an imbecile

When rich white men go senile, they tend to think they're even more invincible than before.

Trump and Rudy are two grumpy rich old white men who hate that the law is in their way. What could go wrong?

Miss Lindsey is flabergasted. No tweets & Fox News today. Pussy pay is not Lindsey's expertise, and she is appalled at the thought.

He may have had a strategy, but Rudolph W. Giuliani hatched it almost entirely in secret.

The White House counsel [Don McGahn] had no idea. Neither did the White House chief of staff, nor the White House press secretary, nor the new White House lawyer [Emmet Flood] overseeing its handling of the Russia investigation.

They watched, agog, as Giuliani, the president’s recently installed personal attorney, freestyled on live television Wednesday night about the president’s legal troubles and unveiled an explosive new fact: that Trump reimbursed his longtime personal attorney, Michael Cohen, for the $130,000 paid to adult-film actress Stormy Daniels to ensure her silence about an alleged sexual encounter with Trump.

What bubble of insanity do these people live in? Is there a coup in the works that makes them so fearless? I'd be worried if Michael Avenatti weren't out there. Where is the Dem leadership on the morning shows? Time to get off the high roads and down to earth. This bullshit must be countered with common sense and sanity.

Did any of you see Dershowitz on MSNBC going crazy? "This is a surveillance state! I hate the government! I hate the judges!" Tons of crazed blanket statements like that. 'Twas not pretty.

That's April Ryan, r198. Love her!

I saw Dershowitz, r211. He really did not come across well. I always wonder if Dersh's fellow Lolita Express passenger Trump is blackmailing ol' Dersh to go on the news networks to defend him.

Dershowitz is freaking, Trump is freaking, Rudy is freaking. Could this have to do with the probable release of Epstein's little black VIP book of Pedophile island visitors and travelers on the Lolita express?

R209 cont.

Aides and advisers to the president — who were scrambling Thursday morning to manage the fallout of Giuliani’s interview with Sean Hannity, a Trump-friendly Fox News Channel host — expressed a mixture of exasperation and horror. One White House official texted a reporter a string of emoji characters in response, including a tiny container of popcorn.

A second White House official, who like most others interviewed for this story spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive topic, said of the president, “His story is obviously not consistent anymore.”

The episode was just the latest convulsion for a White House that perpetually navigates turbulence, careening from one crisis to another, most of them of the president’s own making. It has become standard operating procedure for Trump and his aides to deceive the public with false statements and shifting accounts.

“It’s about time that our public officials started telling us the truth,” said one former Trump adviser who remains close to the White House. “There is nobody in America who didn’t think the president had the affair with the porn star. I doubt there’s anybody in America who didn’t think the president had Michael Cohen pay off the porn star.” .....

Tony Carbonetti, a longtime friend and adviser to Giuliani, said he was dining with the former New York mayor on Manhattan’s Upper East Side on Wednesday night before he went on Fox. “We thought it was a quick hit and he was coming right back,” Carbonetti said, adding that Giuliani returned to the dinner table around 10:15 p.m. and seemed pleased with how the interview went.

Carbonetti warned that those lampooning Giuliani are mistaken.

“If you’ve been around Rudy, there’s always a reason for it,” he said. “If you knew a narrative was coming out, wouldn’t you want to tell the story on your terms? . . . He wanted to get ahead of it.” ....

OK, R213, just get out of my head now, ya' hear!? There is someone on DL who does this to me all the time. Love the thought of having a mental doppleganger.

R209 cont.

Sam Nunberg, a former political adviser to Trump, said that the president’s “typical knee-jerk reaction to everything is deny, deny, deny” but that his lawyers have impressed upon him the importance of being truthful when he is the subject of a federal investigation.

“The president has to understand that what he did in the private sector, as a mogul, celebrity and entrepreneur, where you can simply deny things in the press — when you’re under federal investigation, the FBI and Justice Department takes everything that is said publicly literally,” Nunberg said. “So I think they’re cleaning this mess up. ....

But if Trump was upset with his lawyer’s performance, he did not show it. Indeed, the president was party to hatching the strategy, according to three people involved in the discussions. In recent weeks — over phone calls, dinners and private Oval Office huddles — Giuliani and Trump have talked through the thicket of legal issues facing the president beyond the Russia investigation, these people said.

Once on board, Giuliani spent days reading and being briefed about the many issues facing Trump, including the Cohen case and the payments made by Cohen to Daniels. Giuliani and Trump decided that it would be best to try to explain why Trump and Cohen acted as they did and clarify their business relationship, the people said.

Giuliani, in particular, viewed potential federal scrutiny of election law as an issue that Trump had to address head-on rather than dodge because he believed that it could fester in the coming months, according to one person who spoke with him last month. This person added that Trump was prone to trust Giuliani’s position because they had bonded privately over their shared frustrations with the Justice Department, and both men wanted to run a more combative, freewheeling media campaign.

“Rudy and Trump are talking by phone, and others aren’t in the loop,” one senior White House official said.

Cohen’s attorney, Stephen M. Ryan, has been aware of Trump’s repayment for several weeks, possibly months, according to a person familiar with Cohen’s account. Cohen was averse to sharing this information publicly because he didn’t want to appear to be contradicting Trump’s denial in early April that he knew about the payment.

Neither White House counsel Donald McGahn nor Emmet Flood, the White House attorney recently hired to handle the Russia investigation, knew that Trump had reimbursed Cohen before Giuliani revealed it, according to a person familiar with their knowledge.

McGahn and Flood also were not informed in advance of Giuliani’s plan to disclose the repayment information in his Fox interview, nor were other senior aides in the White House. The communications and media staff run by press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders did not book Giuliani’s appearance on Hannity’s show and were not involved in helping him strategize his talking points.

Asked about White House officials being caught off guard by his disclosure, Giuliani told CNN on Thursday: “They were. There was no way they wouldn’t be. The president is my client. I don’t talk to them.”

Kyle Griffin: Sarah Sanders says, "we give the very best information that we have at the time" to explain the inconsistencies from the White House.

[quote]Dershowitz is freaking, Trump is freaking, Rudy is freaking. Could this have to do with the probable release of Epstein's little black VIP book of Pedophile island visitors and travelers on the Lolita express?

No. Try to think before you post next time.

So is R201 a signal that they're expecting Sessions to start the firing?

Two senile men in their 70’s incompetently leading the free world will soon come to an end

Ok Mr. Dershowitz/R219.

That's three senile men in their 70's, with Dershowitz.

Meanwhile in Paul Ryan's playpen:

The Rev. Patrick J. Conroy, the House chaplain who announced his resignation under pressure last month, informed Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) Thursday that he wanted to rescind his offer and remain in his position at least through the end of this year.

In a two-page letter, Conroy informed Ryan that he gave in to pressure from the speaker’s staff when he agreed in mid-April to resign, believing that Ryan had the power to fire him, but the chaplain now believes he was pressured into the resignation for lack of cause.

Special counsel Robert Mueller on Thursday filed a request for 70 blank subpoenas in the Eastern District of Virginia on Thursday, where former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort is facing charges including tax fraud and failing to report foreign bank accounts.

The two-page filing reveals that each subpoena recipient must appear in the Alexandria, Va., courthouse on July 10 to testify in the case.

Mueller seeks 70 blank subpoenas.

JULY. That is all.

Yaaasss Queen Mueller!

So that would be before a Grand Jury?

I believe it's connected to the criminal trial of Manafort, R229, per the article.

The Onion:

[quote] the two-page filing reveals that each subpoena recipient must appear in the Alexandria, Va., courthouse on July 10 to testify in the case.

Do they count on most of them not showing up or is it possible to do all 70 testemonies in one single day?

[quote] EDITOR'S NOTE: Earlier today, NBC News reported that there was a wiretap on the phones of Michael Cohen, President Trump’s longtime personal attorney, citing two separate sources with knowledge of the legal proceedings involving Cohen.

But three senior U.S. officials now dispute that, saying that the monitoring of Cohen’s phones was limited to a log of calls, known as a pen register, not a wiretap where investigators can actually listen to calls.

NBC News has changed the headline and revised parts of the original article.

Fake news! They're against us! The only collusion is Hillary and the Democrats! I'm a godly man! Prayer! No trannies in the military! I just want to #MAGA! I thought we were friends!

I thought we were friends!

I thought we were fr

I thought we were

Human trafficking in the Cohen case I still believe. It is outside the scope of the Mueller investigation and serious enough to be a big case in the SDNY. Why else would Giuliani be copping to multiple pay-offs to multiple women on Trump’s behalf. Better to have people think he was buying women’s silence than have them think he was buying women. He probably offered Stormy the opportunity to sale her wares through his modeling agency or act as a Madam or procurer.

So the deplorables don’t care that the President of the US lied to them and paid hush money to a porn star right. Before the election, for a cheap lay after his wife gave birth to their son? What happened to their religious vows? Fucking morons

Where is the leadership from Nancy Pelosi? Hello, there is an opening here.

Tom Winter is an excellent reporter. He was set up with that wiretap story and he needs to out his sources.

R236, if Trump performed a late-term abortion with a rusty wire hanger on a 16-year-old white blonde girl live on Fox News, deplorables would pretend he was reading the bible.

Nancy Pelosi is wisely staying out of this, r237. Guiliani is doing her work for her.

r226, Rachel had a delightful expose about the Manafort payments received from the Ukrainian Putin Puppet government. All of then were routed through CYPRESS.

When you see money laundering and the Bank of Cypress the only dots to connect are Wilbur Ross, our current commerce secretary.

I wonder if any of the 70 blank subpoenas is for the Commerce Crypt Keeper?

Well, if Nancy is going to sit on her ass, she better ensure that Democrats win big in November and immediately start impeachment proceedings

What do you suggest Nancy Pelosi do, R241?

Nancy is not sitting on her ass, she is raising huge, boatloads of cash for 2018 candidates.

Nancy is ensuring that she becomes the first female 25th Amendment president.

I would suggest she point out the lies and corruption being exposed every day by the President

R242, I just typed the exact same thing. Why should Pelosi say anything right now? Trump is shooting himself in the foot, and right now Democrats need to focus on getting people out to vote in special elections and in November.

My issue with the Democrats being silent is that they are perceived as weak with no game plan

Wait till after the primaries and the actual candidates start the campaigns in earnest.

[quote]A second White House official, who like most others interviewed for this story spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive topic, said of the president, “His story is obviously not consistent anymore.”

Yeah, that Trump certainly knows how to hire the best and the brightest.

Do you think this second White House official came up with that ground breaking revelation all by himself?

Shouldn't Rudy Giuliani be a subject of interest in this investigation rather than Trump's defense attorney? It was Rudy collaborating with a couple of FBI agents in the NYC field office whereby he bragged about inside knowledge in regards to re-opening the investigation of Hillary's Emails before such was officially announced. There were several other instances he bragged about inside knowledge per HRC. Rudy was part of the campaign for awhile. He ran in the same circles as many of the shady people who were attached to Trump. Was it a preemptive move for Rudy to join Trump's defense apparatus? Rudy has some explaining to do about some of his own sleazy actions.

R246, Democrats talking about Trump and the Mueller probe would only be more fuel for Republican talking points about this being a “witch hunt”. Mueller is doing his job, and a new Trump lie is discovered every day.

I do think that Democrats need to speak up before November, if this moron is still in office and raping America.

r169 and r163: Illegal immigration. End of story.

My fear is that the longer Democrats stay silent, the greater the risk that Republicans turn this into a race about keeping Republicans in office, at any cost, over any kind of movement towards accountability. But you all seem to have confidence in Pelosi et al

BWHAHAHAHAHA.........Just as I suspected.....the DOJ is covering their ass regarding the wiretap of Cohen........per Preet Bharara, disclosing a wiretap is a felony.....BUT a pen register is used to develop evidence sufficient to obtain a wiretap. Basically, there is a wiretap, and they used the pen register to obtain it......they obtained both months ago.

R251, you are correct. Most of the country is opposed to uncontrollable, illegal imigration. Hillary ran too far to the left on this issue; and it cost her. She was way more moderate on the issue in 2008.

Her stance on illegal immigration in 2016 was to the left of Obama. It was a net loss in votes on this matter. Democrats need to have a moderate/balanced policy done and off the table. If not, it is a huge gift for Republicans.

R232, the witnesses will arrange stand-by agreements with the prosecution to appear whenever the prosecution needs them to come in and testify.

Roger Stone shows off his new tattoo......

I was listening to the radio earlier and they were interviewing Michael Caputo and he was talking about his interview with the Mueller team. He said he was questioned for 3 hours and solely on the Russia stuff...

What struck me was just how stupid and sad all these fucktards seem to be. He seemed eager to get his story out there and at the same time sounded like a bumbling moron. When asked if he regrets having anything to do with the Drumpf campaign now (apparently it has cost over $125,000 in legal fees which he says is more than he makes a year).

His response was that he thinks Drumpf is great and he's 110% behind him and he's worked with Drumpf since the 80s and tried to get him to run for Governor of NY, blah blah blah.... and then said his wife begged him not to have anything to do with the campaign but he didn't listen and yeah, he guesses he should have and he wishes that he did but.. Drumpf is still great!!!

He apparently started a GoFundMe for his legal fees and somehow got over $60,000 in contributions last night.

Theyre all grifters........I though Trump set up a legal defense fund for people dragged into his mess.

Jesus, in 10 days he got over 110,000 in donations... who are all these people donating? Are their addresses in St. Petersburg?

Deplorables are not the brightest bulbs in the box r259, ............havent you noticed ?

Mueller is not going to take only Trump down, he will take the ADMINISTRATION down.

Wilbur Ross and the Bank of Cypress will tie up money laundering, real estate sales and tax evasion.

It is organized crime on a global level.

Thank you Comrade Putin for helping us cut out the rot.

r259........Trump has already raised over 32 million for his 2020 run........pathetic

[quote]What struck me was just how stupid and sad all these fucktards seem to be. He seemed eager to get his story out there and at the same time sounded like a bumbling moron.

Who ya calling fucktards and bumbling morons?!?!

Do we think Rudy joined Cheeto's legal team so he couldn't be forced to testify against him?

The way OJ's accomplice Robert Kardashian quickly joined that defense team so he couldn't be asked about the suitcase?

I think R240 and R261 mean the Bank of Cyprus (unless this is some sort of lumber scam).

OMG, I can't TAKE ANY MORE of Giuliani's LISP! Can't hit the "mute" button fast enough!

Thank you r265.

Jeff Sessions is a slimy cowardly little man, but he's not going to let Rudy Giuliani (or Trump) boss him around. He has way more clout and much more powerful friends.

Yeah......like Putin

Regards the U.S. Congress - the Democratic party only needs to take 23 seats in the house. The party could easily achieve that since three dozen Republicans have said they won't run again. And they only need a couple in the senate to completely lock up the legislature - sort of like the Reagan years where the Democrats had congress - and the great Tip O'Neill was the speaker. And the Lion of f the Senate Ted Kenedy did his schtick to stick it to Reagan too.

As to who the great senators will be for this one, I think Sheldon Whitehouse will be one - he's starting to trace the money. Obdisclaimer I was his I.T. Director when he was RI Attorney General. Another one to watch is Cory Booker.

R268. Yes. Sessions is very popular in Alabama and with a portion of conservatives throughout much of the country. In the Senate, on a personal level, he has a number of Democrat friends. Sessions is indeed slick and was not candid during much of his confirmation testimony. Had he not recused himself with the Russia investigation, doubtful he would still be in the AG role.

r264 that and to save his own ass, now he knows Trump's strategy and if his defense could spell trouble for Rudy. He talked to Mueller under the guise of ending the investigation. I bet Mueller let him know they have proof Trump paid Cohen, at least Rudy isn't one of these idiots willing to go down for Trump, he will just play dumb like "oops, should I not have said that, what is wrong with me?" He spilled the beans on paying Cohen for a reason, and I don't think it was to help Trump.

R272, you're assuming a lot her.

I bet Rudy so wanted to be in the limelight after his buddy won the election. And now finally he grabbed his chance.

He and Trump are of a kind. They think they know best, can do best etc. It's arrogance and senile dementia combined.

Loved Trump's telegraphing to Mueller through Guiliani: take my son-in-law, but don't go near my daughter.

Rudy's fantasy is that he saves Trump's ass, and a grateful President appoints him Attorney General in his second term.

Or Ivanka throws him a freebie, R275.

Poor Jar Jar Kushner is gender-discriminated.

You'll soon be safe.

Mother is coming

Aunt Lydia is getting her just desserts

The experts say Ghouliana put on a hurting. This is what happens when Grampy Spanks stays up past his bedtime with younger playmates.

Disposable Jared! It's hilarious yet so cold. I wonder what Ivanka thinks of the comment?

Rudy made a big doo doo on live TV two days in a row

I'm sure Ivanka has entertained that thought too at one time or another, R280.

Rudy needs to get in her caftan, put on her wig, have a drinkie-poo, and stay away from Trump.

So what’s with Neil Cavuto on Fox ripping up Trump and doing a commentary asking him about all the lying? He apparently said they were trying to report the news (haha), but Trump was making it impossible because every day it was a different story from Trump. Even Fox couldn’t keep up, according to NC.

That would be a tart historical footnote if Whitehouse were the one, R270. What was your sense of his capacity to make that happen?

r284 Translation: we've been lying for you and want to continue to lie for you, but you keep fucking it up for us because you can't keep your lies straight anymore.

A new poll shows that Nancy is really unpopular in flyover so expect the same treatment of her this election that Hillary got in 2016.

They’re gonna make this all about Nancy.

Let me just add that Pelosi has done a lot for the average joe, with healthcare as the big feather in her cap. But she has always been reliably for the average person and manages to get bills passed and elections won.

Don’t let them tar and feather her like they did with Hillary.

She’s done a lot of good.

Pelosi needs to keep raising tons of money and keep a low profile till the flip. Even then, she needs to keep a low profile. Schumer, though, needs to go. Kamala Harris would make a better Senate leader.

[quote][R169] and [R163]: Illegal immigration. End of story.

It's not about immigration. Obama deported more immigrants than anybody. They just don't want to see so many brown people around.

But you know that.

R290 Yes, illegal immigration is just the talking point. They want to reverse the ominous demographic trend of whites becoming less than 50% of the population. That's like an end-of-the-world crisis in these people's mind. Hence, Trump's tantrum about getting immigrants from "shithole" countries instead of Europe.

r290 and r291 I read of a doctor who was detained for possible deportation. He was white, he legally immigrated to the US with his family when he was eight years old, but he committed a crime in his teen years and although the local courts wiped clean his juvenile criminal record, ICE came for him over thirty years later. I admit I'm scratching my head about how deporting white physicians who've acclimated to the US and are productive residents helps allay the fears of American-born whites becoming less than 50% of the population. Some Trump fan who's 100% in favour of escalated ICE raids and detentions of legal residents regardless of colour needs to explain that to me.

Did anyone watch tonight's Stephen Colbert ?

@ 4:06 Avenatti shows that Michael Cohen paid Stormy through a San Francisco company.Meaning this could bring the Donal Trump Campaign and Michael Cohen case to California courts !!! [bold]<3 <3 [/bold]

California could bring state charges against Cohen and Trump for violating California campaign laws.

Yup, it's breaking now.

[quote]Stormy Daniels’ lawyer may have stolen away Michael Cohen’s ‘get out of jail free card’ Wednesday night

Hahaha Jerry Brown and Xavier Becerra are wetting their panties right now. Trump has done so much damage to California's economy in only one year, it's like a gift from baby Jesus for Jerry Brown.

Can you imagine if such a case were to land in San Francisco or Los Angeles ???

The plot thickens...

And I'd bet so does Avenatti's dick. Damn, what a hot motherfucker.

But her emails!!!

America's Mayor!!!!!!!

Ghouliani is a horrid person, a despicable liar, and a complete hypocrite, which I guess goes without saying.

Can you imagine the sputtering outrage he would be peddling if it were revealed that Hillary Clinton had done what he admitted Donald Trump did? Anything that Hillary did or does is worthy of federal indictment, according to him. Whatever Trump has done or does is just normal in the ordinary course of business, so, "no big deal."

What if the results of the midterm elections turn out to be majority house and senate again? What if the Russians twist the election results so much that the blue wave will be blocked?

Do we know if Rudy's getting paid for his new position as T-Rump's chief legal counsel? T-Rump is of course notorious for not paying his lawyers, and famewhore Rudy would presumably do it merely for the attention and screen time—but if he's not getting paid he's also not motivated to put in a decent day's work or do an effective job.

[quote] he's also not motivated to put in a decent day's work or do an effective job.

Well, to be fair, Rudy hasn't done a decent day's work in decades. Trump likes him because they are both NY bullshit artists. They both ride aloft on the fumes of perception. Trump that he is a supposedly successful businessman, and Rudy on some myth that he is a great prosecutor and was a great mayor -- when, in fact, neither are even remotely true.

America’s Mayor needs to make sure he gets paid upfront in full.

Doesn’t he do commercials for reverse mortgages?

R289, you may be right about the perception of Pelosi, but I disagree that your suggestions are at all helpful.

1. If Pelosi is perceived as you say, she should just work under the assumption that she’ll be maligned and be as productive as possible. The damage is already done.

2. No, Harris cannot lead the US Senate. It’s not going to happen. I won’t get into the details, it’s suffice to say that the members won’t have it.

Disposable Jared just put Rudy on his enemies list. He was able to block Chris Christie. Does he still have the clout to get rid of Guiliani? I think not. I suspect Ivanka and Jared will be moving back to NYC this summer.

I hear Rudy’s getting paid $130,000 which is the going rate for the services he’s providing Mr. Trump.

He’ll probably write him a bad check.

Rudy wants to be Attorney General. Period. That's why he's doing this. As for his comments about Jared, damn That was an admission that they have something on JAred. Enough to charge him and convict him. So much for the "witch hunt."

Right-wing media is jumping on this week's Time Magazine cover story about the "FBI in Crisis" in yet another attempt to discredit Comey and the Trump investigation.

Does anyone even read Time magazine anymore? They may as well just publish the cover and save themselves some money.

Cheeto is flapping and flailing, and desperate to clean up the Rudy mess.

Just now told reporters "Rudy knows it is a witch hunt. He started yesterday. He'll get his facts straight."

You know who bought Time magazine about 6 months ago.

The sheeple eat this crap up.

"President Trump is a VERY honest person! " -Kellyanne CONway

So, Rudy & Bone Spurs are a couple of tough guys now? The geriatric mob? Are they gonna get Nunez & Miss Lindzey put a horse's head in Mueller's bed? Nawh, maybe something more effective. Kelly Anne's used tampon?

[quote]"President Trump is a VERY honest person! " -Kellyanne CON

I believe that he believes that. And that he believes the crap that comes out of his mouth is the truth of the moment. Whether the crap bears any resemblance to the actual fact and truth is of no consideration to these con men and women.

Trump & this GOP Congress are giving David Koch what he wants beyond his wildest dreams.

The government is really run from Wichita, Kansas.

r314, Con men believe that anything is fair game if it suits them. And everything, including the law, is unfair when it keeps them from getting what they want. They act on one single impulse: Take (as in take everything you want and push everthing aside that stands in your way).

That's why sociophaths make such great con men.

Tramp is quite pleased with himself, reveling in the chaos with his Ghouliani Echo Chamber to validate him at every turn.

Trump was just confronted by the press about his Cohen/Stormy lies. He didn’t do a good job defending himself. “Go back and take a look at what I said. You’ll see what I said.”

His ability to talk nonstop for twenty minutes and not make on coherent point is astonishing to me. Though not as astonishing as his base proclaiming his blather to be words of wisdom.

Kellyanne's husband doesn't seem fond of what's being espoused from Trump and his government paid yappers. Kellyanne needs to go back to polling or do whatever and stop breaking the Hatch Act. And while she's at it, do the Mercer propaganda on their funds, not the taxpayers.

Cheeto is flipflopping now because Cohen came out swinging in the press that only he and Cheeto know what happened and that he (Cohen) will be telling his story.

Let's be honest, we were all thinking it

[quote] So, Rudy & Bone Spurs are a couple of tough guys now? The geriatric mob?

The FRAUD COUPLE (Cue Neal Hefti and his Orchestra)

Classic Trump to immediately throw Rudy under the bus. He’s “learning and will get his facts straight”? Wow, the incompetence and arrogance are off the charts

R312 Trump is a very honest person.... Except when he isn't, which is 99.9% of the time.

r290, The point wasn't what I know. The point, the topic, was what did the Deplorables get all hepped up about, re: HRC. I doubt if THEY knew Obama's record.

Try reading comprehension.

I so hope Trump and Giuliani will have a public bitch fight to distract from Mueller banging at the White House's entrance door to sit down with Trump.

R325 Joke's on Trump. Julie-Annie is senile and won't be learning anything. Better can him now before he does more damage!

This is not good. This is the very first time a federal judge has gone on the attack and shown political bias against Mueller of all people, and openly supported Trump. WTF is this federal judge apponted by Reagan and how can we get rid of him???? Rotten fucker.

A family member got a jury questionnaire this week for that court. Won't serve as he is 71. Too bad.

^^^^if true, then he will be removed. Judges cannot exhibit obvious bias prior to a trial. He obviously did not want to preside over the downfall of his idol.

Hope so, R332, because he was way out of line!

I think the judge was just another example of conservative frustration with the obvious prospect of facing yet another impeachment trial for a sitting GOP president. Poor babies.

The judge is obviously unaware with the special powers granted to an IC. Furthermore, this is well established legal doctrine. If in the course of an investigation evidence of others crimes is uncovered, the investigation is legally obligated to turn it over to the jurisdiction in which the crime was committed. IE: you call the police for a domestic issue but they see pot growing in your window.

Bad example, sorry, but the principle is the same: you don't ignore it.

Yes, ut from a legal perspective he is way out of line. He was actually speculating about the "real motive" for being these charges against Manafort and that their "real motive" was to oust Trump. Now that is serious judicial overreach! But who can do anything about it? IS there a chief judge in the Virginia circuit that can reprimand him or remove him from the case? He is supposed to go where the facts lead him not speculate and add fuel to the fires that Fox News has stoked. What an asshole. Now. What's the process to stop him? Are any of our Legal people around?

Right, R337, his ONLY job is to look at the facts in the case, not make political speculations. A Reagan appointee? He must be ancient. Maybe it's time for a senility check.

From the Daily Beast: Qatar’s mission to the United Nations bought an apartment valued at $6.5 million in New York’s Trump World Tower on Jan. 17, one month after a judge ruled that President Donald Trump was not violating the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution when receiving Qatari rent. Before the sale, the Qatari government owned three other units in Trump World Tower, bringing the total of its purchases in the building to $16.5 million. The governments of Afghanistan, India, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia were already paying in excess of $225,000 a month in charges in the building.

WaPo columnist Brian Klaas:

This is happening in broad daylight. Right before our eyes. And nobody is doing anything about it.

[quote] His ability to talk nonstop for twenty minutes and not make on coherent point is astonishing to me.

Never trust an extrovert.

Judge Ellis will turn 78 in a couple of weeks. But it's pretty clear he has overstepped himself.

[quote] Cohen came out swinging in the press that only he and Cheeto know what happened

Well and Mueller... you forgot Mueller.

Judge Ellis wants to see the unredacted charging document....thats all.....and he offered to have it submitted under seal so its not available to the public. These conservatives need to be careful what they wish for......Mueller could decide to make it public, and in it will basically state that TRUMP and assoc have committed TREASON. Its not that big of a deal....and court observers have noted that this judge tends to go off on the side hes going to side with in order to sustain the record and insure there is no bias.......but of course, the right wing will spin it into something else completely.........and if by chance the document leaks, then we need to revolt because that indicates a coup.

Didn't Kellyanne first become famous in leading the Bowling Green Pussy Riots which was the forerunner for the #MeToo movement?

Ed Krassenstein ‏

NOTEWORTHY! Judge T.S. Ellis, who attacked the Special Counsel in the Paul Manafort case, also happens to be the same Judge who ruled in favor of the Republicans and called for "No new vote" after 147 voters were disenfranchised in Virginia's House of Delegates election.

Thanks for the reassurances, R343.

If I were Mueller, I’d be worried about showing that judge the unredacted document. You just know once Ellis knows what the case is, he’ll hop on the phone with Devin Nunes (if not Trump himself) and fill them in.

I thought Republicans hated activist judges?

R347, he's already offered to keep it sealed. I have a lot of faith in the judicial system in these trying times, despite this weird outburst, but I'm satisfied that R343 has it stated the facts. He does it to eliminate future charges of bias in politically charged circumstances.

Vice President Mike Pence’s physician has resigned, the latest fallout from the collapse of Ronny Jackson’s nomination for secretary of Veterans Affairs.

Sick day. Listening to Trump before NRA. The most hatefilled talk I’ve ever heard.

He has declared war on Democrats and liberals and progressives. I see his comments as provoking violence against us. Such pandering.

The nonsense I kept hearing in the election "he's not really like this" comes to mind now, R351. Yes he is, and if anyone is killed because of this maniac, the blood will be upon your hands. #basta

Trump wants an escape from the investigation and potential prosecution. Civil unrest would be a distraction that would fit the bill. Riling up the right-wing to be combative with the moderates to left, who are frustrated and angry themselves, would generate the disarray he would seek to exploit. His fervent supporters would embrace a Trump coup.

The only patriotism the Republican Congress is showing is to the Koch Industries Company flag, the NRA, and to Mother Russia.

His decision in Virginia House of Delegates election was horrible. And very political. He handed the Republicans the majority ( by 1) of the House of Delegates. Which has resulted in a whole bunch of horrible legislation or lack of legislation. Voters were tricked and not allowed a chance to actually vote. The whole thing was dirty.

Donald Trump, that fucker, would rather incite civil unrest and then declare Marshall Law to save his own ass.

Lindsey Graham and Russia media tout Donald Trump for Nobel Peace Prize.

That prize would belong to Xi, not white satan.

OK -Hairy DL gave hottie Ari Melber is growing a beard. Looking good. Can’t wait.

*DL fave

Nice hands. Ari would be a fun try.

r163, Obama "ruined" the country by being black and being president; that's what they really mean by that, no more and no less.

Just another racist Trump deplorable.

An appreciable number of Trump voters had voted for Obama, many of them twice.

Those were the petulant, white, male, sexist Bernbros, R362. They will have blood on their hands, too, before this Trump disaster ends.

Trump is perfectly capable of provoking violence out here and then invoking Martial LAw and suspending the Constitution. No elections. They'd be postponed.

Call me crazy, but maybe that's why Bannon left the White House in the first place. Pretend he and Trump are on the outs while organizing some local terror attack with his Nazi goons that gives Trump the excuse to declare Martial Law.

R356 Regarding the Nobel Peace Prize... Please forgive me for saying this, but I think they lost credibility when they gave it to Obama. He hadn't even accomplished anything yet! It just seemed really silly and gave his detractors more reason to criticize.

Obama himself seemed embarrassed when he was awarded and might not disagree with me. I could have seen them give it to him in 2011 after he ended the war in Iraq, (although not really), or reversing Bush's torture policies, but the timing was so premature.

And we know it's the only reason Trump is campaigning for it. Had the Nobel Committee awarded it to Obama maybe halfway thru his presidency, (when it made more sense!), the Trumpians wouldn't be embarrassingly pushing for it now.

Anybody else agree?

[quote]He hadn't even accomplished anything yet!

The first black man to overcome the wall of discrimination that is the American voting public is an accomplishment in itself.

Where is bannon these days?

Isn’t it “martial law”, not “Marshall law”?

[quote]Isn’t it “martial law”, not “Marshall law”?

Welcome to the DL. Sit down and stay a spell.

Tea Pain: 15 months of investigation has yet to find a member of Trump’s team with ties to America.

^^ Trying again to post article

The Nobel Committee lost credibility long before they gave the Peace Prize to just-elected covert-war-enthusiast Obama. They gave it to the bomb-crazy Henry Kissinger! Also, I love Theodore Roosevelt, but come on.

R366 here. Full Disclosure: I think I'm just trying to make myself feel better and prepare myself in case the Nobel committee actually DOES award a prize to Trump. It'll be beyond disgusting... I'm sorry... beyond deplorable!!!

It's Martian Law, idiots

The noobs have outed themselves

R372 The Paradise Papers also pertained to Mitch McConnell and Elaine Chao and her chain migration relatives. That shipping company and their off-shore, tax avoiding, accounts has got a lot of coverage. In an earlier time, it would be a big scandal.

^has NOT got a lot of coverage.

Don Blankenship, a WV GOP primary Senate candidate is bringing it up, referencing McConnell's "China Family".

Right now a big part of the Republican strategy is to make Trump look Presidential. Thus he is going to the UK in July. He is meeting with NK in May...or so we've been told. He has a full blown, multi-level coordinated strategy rolling out the go on the attack with Mueller and the FBI. Discredit them, demonize them, etc. They are not going to just roll over. They are going to fight inch by inch to hang on to as much of the House as they can. Senate too. And you need 67 Senators to vote for a conviction to expel him.After the House impeaches him, after the Senate tries him.

R374, It's even tackier to campaign for them.

Another big part of that strategy, R379, is to try and normalize the Stormy Daniels affair as if this is 'just what lawyers do and this is how celebrities roll. He was just 'trying to protect his family, blah blah blah.'

I really wish I had an option to leave the country.

DJT's pee-on-me fetish is so nasty.

The Russian hookers didn't piss on cheeto. They pissed on the bed the Obamas slept on

In a short time, Trump and his wealthy white enablers have normalized lying, adultery, treason and corruption, all for the sake of winning and maintaining white supremacy. This is why crazy Kanye embracing Trump is so enraging. If he were a poor black man, they would shoot him or arrest him

Agree they want the Nobel for Trump to further legitimacy in spite of his treason

Xi deserves the award. You don't get peace awards for threatening to bomb someone back into the stone age and then say it's all about power to peace. That's fucking bullshit.

It really is their downfall. When whites sabotage their own welfare in order to remain the oppressors, you know they see the writing on the wall.

Two decades from now the US will look very different, and hopefully the 2nd Amendment will be long gone.

It’s Marsha Law!!!

There is no way the Nobel Committee would ever seriously consider Trump for a peace prize......its all just puffery

Don't be too sure about anything, R387. This is the Kali yug

Trump knew about Michael Cohen's payment to Stormy Daniels "several months before he denied any knowledge of it," NYT reports.

Do you think Hillary would have gotten away with any of this? Do you believe that Grampy Spanks would have kept his hypocritical mouth shut during her administration? Mueller can't fill out those 70 subpoenas fast enough.

Not only would Hillary not have gotten away with even 1% of this shit but if Bill had slept with and paid off Stormy Daniels, she'd have been held responsible for THAT!

It is a variation of the Dan Rather attack using one's work product against them.

And we move on knowing that Joy was only bruised and not mortally wounded.

It's a good thing.

Whoever shoots Trump dead should get the Nobel Peace Prize.

Evil racist hateful crass horrible craven little man. Who would start a civil war and tear the country apart to save his own hide.

He was going to foment civil discord if Hillary won, and he's going to do it now if Mueller does something he doesn't like.

He and 33% of this country are holding the rest of us hostage.

I just don't understand, why are white men so threaten by a female leader ? Young or old/Liberal or Conservative it's a clear pattern with white men.

We need to stop bringing Hillary's name into this. That's their game. And that's why they will lose the midterms

I bring Hillary’s name into it because Hillary Clinton rightfully won the presidency.

White men are rebelling to their future minority status.

Goodbye white privilege.

You're all wrong. Everybody knows it's Marcia Law.

Junior and dad with Diamond and Silk at NRA convention.

Collective IQ of 300 at R399...

I don't trust Judge Ellis. Not at all. I thought his attack on Mueller's team was completely out of line. There are any number of ways he could have framed his question without all that "you're trying to oust Trump" crap. He should have simply asked why they were bringing stuff about illegal payments or fraud or WTF ever involving Manafort's activities related to the Ukraine to his court as part of the Trump Russia investigation, when it might have been referred to another court/district as they did with Cohen? I'd assume the answer is because this is part of the Russia investigation. Now I watch Maddow so I know that Manafort was in hock to the Oligarch and it involved his losing his "revenue stream" from the Ukraine debacle ( which, incidentally, gives me hope) and Manafort planned on compensating the Oligarch and win him over again by showing him how they could work together (collude) around the Trump Presidential campaign victory. Manafort was riding high with his Russian buddies because he thought he would be the main layer in a Trump White House. Can the judge not figure that out? Or has he spent too much time listening to Sean Hannity?

Its depressing to think that someone intelligent enough to go through law school and become a judge can be swayed by blatant, untruthful propaganda, too.

[quote] Had the Nobel Committee awarded it to Obama maybe halfway thru his presidency, (when it made more sense!), [bold]the Trumpians wouldn't be embarrassingly pushing for it now.[/bold]

You presume that they are capable of being embarrassed. They aren't. They have absolutely no shame. They are first-class, Grade A hypocrites.

I would not be concerned about Judge Ellis. Rosenstein gave Mueller very broad authority to prosecute any crimes that he might uncover in the course of his investigation. In part, he did that for precisely the reasons that underlie the judge's questions: the prosecutor may use the threat of criminal prosecution to "flip" a defendant. There is nothing illegal about that; it happens every day in every jurisdiction in the country with the full approval of the criminal justice system.

And, you cannot always predict what a judge is thinking about simply by the tone and tenor of the questions asked during oral argument.

r402, It's quite common for bible thumbers to go into law school to find ways corrupting the legal system and make way for a theocracy. The same way bible thumbers study science to strenghten faith based science

My husband (retired lawyer in Virginia) says Ellis has always been controversial.

The issue that Ellis has is that he only has a redacted order as well.....according to the paperwork filed, he feels he doesnt have jurisdiction, NOT that there is no case......thats why he wants an unredacted order within 2 weeks and will rule then......hes looking for clarification .....thats all.....its no big deal. Remember, Mueller and co are keeping a tight lid on everything WITH EVERYBODY, including the judges, in order to not tip their hat to possible defendants who are going to great means to find info (i.e. Nunes, HIC, etc)......basically it will come down to Mueller having to make a choice about releasing SOME information about what his case is about..........and it wont be good for Trump and co and will create a shitstorm.

The investigation should be pretty far along at this point, no?

Before people get too optimistic about Mueller's investigation:

Trump has boasted that he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue in NYC and his base won't care.

Michael Cohen has stated that he would take a bullet for Trump.

Trump will shoot Cohen in broad daylight on 5th Avenue, hindering that aspect of the investigation.

Evangelicals will remind us--"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"--and then continue to support their president.

Rudy who? Oh, yes, Rudy Giuliani, he’s just the coffee boy, just a coffee boy.

Aw shuddup, r398. It's Jan Law......

It is noticed that most Republicans in the Senate, and a good many in the House, are refraining from serious criticism and trying to undermine the Mueller investigation. It is those vocal and aggressive tea Party types that are attacking the investigation in an uncontrolled,and underhanded way. Nunes, Jim Jordan, Meadows, Gaetz, Biggs, and a couple of dozen others are the ones resorting to devious tactics, and are adament to derail the investigation. In the Senate, Grassley, Graham, Hatch, and a few others, to varying degrees, have tried to counter the DOJ or pressure/question the DOJ or Special Counsel in behalf of DJT.

Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell are failures in keeping matters ethical aND responsible. They can't get beyond partisanship in doing their jobs.

I don't know why Sen. Grassley enjoys the solid reputation he does with beltway commentators. He's always used the DoJ as a bludgeon in his partisan activity on the Senate Judiciary Committee over six terms.

From the Palmer Report. Trump being broke would be the ultimate outcome of all this.

Giuliani’s performance during the Sean Hannity show on Fox News this week was so startling that it was easy to miss some of the finer details. By our count, Rudy admitted that Donald Trump committed at least five different felonies, ranging from illegal election payoffs to obstruction of justice. When Rudy acknowledged that Trump did in fact reimburse Michael Cohen for the $130,000 payout to Stormy Daniels, he stated that Trump paid him back in monthly installments over the course of a year.

Trump owed Cohen a debt of $130,000, yet Trump had to resort to twelve monthly payments to pay it back to him. If Trump were a billionaire, he’d have been able to write a check for a mere $130,000 without missing a beat. Instead it took him a year to gradually get that money back to Cohen. This would the equivalent of a working class person needing a full year to gradually repay a debt of thirteen dollars.

By Rudy Giuliani’s own admission, Donald Trump is so cash-poor that he can’t safely afford to pay out $130,000 at a time. When people with billions in assets are that cash-poor, it’s because they’re so upside down on their assets and so deeply in debt, they can’t get their hands on cash. Their income goes directly to debt service so their assets aren’t repossessed. It means their debts are larger than the value of their assets. It means they have a negative net worth. That’s the case with Donald Trump. He’s not a billionaire, not a millionaire, not even a thousandaire. He’s just flat broke.

...and seeking to enrich himself with the advantages of the WH.

I wouldn't be surprised if R413 is dead-on.

Trump filed for an extension on his 2018 tax return. I can only guess this was done to keep its contents out of Mueller's hands as long as possible. There must be something juicy in there...

I thought the installments were deliberately kept small in order to not get flagged? I mean if Trump had money problems he just wouldn't have paid the guy (Trump is well known to stiff contractors, so why not lawyers?) whom, according to reports, he treats like a doormat and yet Cohen comes back for more.

The idea that a micromanaging blowhard like Trump doesn't know why he is paying Cohen money in such a way is hilarious. He knew and he knew it was illegal otherwise he wouldn't have used Cohen and reimbursed Cohen that way.

r416.....he claims it was for legal fees and expenses.....why would he need to make installments if that were true ?

Trump's tax returns would reveal much. Mueller would have them at least through FY 2016.

Murder on the Orient Express meets Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

Trump or someone close to Trump maybe Rudy claimed Cohen was a retainer and got $35, 000 a month,. Then we hear another version where the $35,000 a month is reimbursement for the pay off of Stormy. And do remember when Trump claimed Coehn did very little for him. A "tiny fraction" of his legal work. etc. etc.etc There are so many lils out there you can just pick the one you want to believe.

Stormy may get him in the end, but I don't think that's the biggest story related to Trump and Cohen and money.

Stormy only got $130,000.

Wall Street Journal reports during the campaign, Cohen took out lines of credit to get to as much as $774,000.

Rudy tells NBC Trump paid Cohen at least $420,000 for that one payment to Stormy. (Trump sent Cohen extra for incidentals and what-not according to Rudy).

McClatchy reported they have sources saying Cohen *did* go to Prague in the summer of 2016.

After he's raided, Cohen drops his lawsuit against Buzzfeed for defamation for publishing the Steele Dossier which alleges he went to Prague.

Aventi says the FBI got wind that Cohen was planning to destroy evidence.

From the Steele Dossier about Cohen's meeting in EU with Russians:

[bold]According to [redacted], the agenda comprised questions on how deniable cash payments were to be made to hackers who had worked in Europe under Kremlin direction against the CLINTON campaign and various contingencies for covering up these operations and Moscow’s secret liaison with the TRUMP team more generally.[/bold]

If Cohen went to Prague, was he paying off Russian hackers? That's what a lot of people seem to think.

One thing about what Judge Ellis did with his attitude and questions that was interesting and covered by Rachel the other night was that he forced the prosecution to say why they gave Cohen's case to New York but kept Manafort's under their own purview. The answer was that Manafort's bank fraud and money laundering were directly connected to the Russian investigation into the Trump campaign while Cohen's crimes were not directly connected to the Russia investigation so they gave New York the case (although there are probably more Cohen crimes, too, that are involved in the Russian investigation that have yet to be brought forth that Mueller's team will be happy to keep hold of).

In other words, if Manafort is guilty, they're all guilty...and Manafort is guilty.

*Avenatti. I cannot figure out why my spellcheck keeps changing that to Aventi.

They're either hiding structured payments or payments to hackers. I'm convinced of that. I guess we'll have to wait to find out which it is.

Fox News is bringing Kim Davis back in the news; of course presenting her as a victim.

They note "Hollywood" offers to help her opponent.

Will Mike and Karen Pence be visiting Rowan County before election day?

R422 it all makes sense. The dossier has proven so far to be true. I’m sure that is why Trump,is freaking out about Cohen. Again Occam’s razor would dictate the obvious answer is most likely the truth.

[quote]By Rudy Giuliani’s own admission, Donald Trump is so cash-poor that he can’t safely afford to pay out $130,000 at a time. When people with billions in assets are that cash-poor, it’s because they’re so upside down on their assets and so deeply in debt, they can’t get their hands on cash. Their income goes directly to debt service so their assets aren’t repossessed. It means their debts are larger than the value of their assets. It means they have a negative net worth. That’s the case with Donald Trump. He’s not a billionaire, not a millionaire, not even a thousandaire. He’s just flat broke.

It's so nice to have a President wit trubbles like youses!

If he did that, r416, that is known as structuring. It is often a component of financial crimes and can be a crime in and of itself.

I agree with R416. Maybe pay in installments so as to not call attention to them.

Bet Sarah Huckabee Sanders is going to resign. She will blame it on the media and never admit she is resigning because the foul, filthy stench has sickened her and she's disillusioned. That's the problem with amateurs and ideologues and true believers. Give me a hired gun with no beliefs, a real professional. I think that's why MC Gahn has lasted. OTOH, I bet he's going to go too, because if the shit mess with all these lawyers.

[quote]. Give me a hired gun with no beliefs...

So, Scaramucci will be back?

I bet Sarah's father would disown her if she dared to leave the administration on her own. That asshole wants to brag about having an in into the administration through her for as long as Trump wants her or is in the White House.

.....

In the 9 years before his presidency, Trump spent 400,000,000.00 in CASH on new properties.....remember, he couldnt get funding from American banks.....and Uday and Quisay stated publicly that Russia made up a DISproportionate amount of their financing (i.e. money laundering)

Tass (russian news agency) inadvertently confirm part of the Steele Dossier........it puts the russian oligarch that the dossier says met with Cohen in Italy at the same time as Cohen was there in 2016.....

Breaking News from the far-right!

Alex Jones is reporting Trump is busy, busy, busy.

He's too busy to pursue Russian hacking.

Instead, Trump is busy fighting artificial intelligence programs bent on killing humans.

Thank you, President Trump for fighting the not at all made up computer robots that the liberal obstructionists are using to help raping Mexicans cross our borders. Also gay marriage. You are a gift from God!

Yes, inDEEd. Thank you Mr. Drumpf for reminding me what sanity doesn't look like.

Richard Painter just went after Alan Dershowitz on MSNBC. I think Dershowitz is third in line for derangement syndrome after Trump and Ghouliani....

Love me some Richard Painter.

I still want to know what went down when Melania plagiarized Michelle for her convention speech. Was it an Ivanka scheme?

Sean Spicer tried to go after April Ryan. She let him have it!

Wow, Dershowitz has really sunk to Stalin-era levels of lackeyhood.

John McCain doesn't want Trump to attend his funeral, NYT reports...

Part of me can't help but think... well, too bad. Maybe you shouldn't have sided with him so many times.

That he’s banned from his funeral is nice. That he wants Obama to deliver his eulogy is deliciiiiiious!

Trump's administration is like the movie The Death of Stalin, only in slow motion.

Like Stalin, Trump is a dark comedy.

[quote]So what’s with Neil Cavuto on Fox ripping up Trump and doing a commentary asking him about all the lying? He apparently said they were trying to report the news (haha), but Trump was making it impossible because every day it was a different story from Trump. Even Fox couldn’t keep up, according to NC.

Maybe Fox News has had sufficient.

As the ‘King of Debt,’ Trump borrowed to build his empire. Then he began spending hundreds of millions in cash

Realizing McCain's vote was critical to stop the complete elimination of the ACA; the graceful thing to have done when he got ill, was to have resigned. Give someone else the opportunity to represent Arizona, and available to the job funded by tax-payers. .

R431 SHS hasn't shown any sign of a conscience up to now. So why start now? But at some point Trump will throw her under the bus, since someone like her is meant to be used and abused, and totally expendable.

Poor bus.

R451 I think she's disgusting and I think her political ideology is disgusting. She is her father's daughter but I think she was a true believer. She idealized Trump and she fully subscribed to whatever the Religious Right peddles. So I think right now she finds her own situation untenable. But I don't want her to quit I want her to stay and get shit from the reporters every fucking day. I want her to realize no one likes her or trusts her or respects her.

Will add that like Sean Spicer before her, at some point she will find it difficult to live with the fact that she is the object of pubic derision and ridicule. Only she won't get any invites to be on talks shows.

R454 Spicer is as much of a loathsome liar for Trump as SHS, but he seems to be getting a pass and even sympathy after he quit. Maybe it's male privilege or maybe it's because he took all the ridicules in stride.

Spicer good spoofed by Melissa McCarthy on SNL. He gave them great material to work with. SHS? She doesn't deliver the same entertainment. She just lies shamelessly. And feels hurt, that someone dares to make fun of her eye shadow! What a big, fat, snowflake!

Spicer GOT spoofed by Melissa McCarthy on SNL.

r449, McCain knows that he will have a strategic death.

R455 I think he seemed sympathetic because at least some days he was visibly uncomfortable with the lies. SHS seems to revel in it and DGAF that she lies with every word she says.

I think the only reason Spicer seemed to recover, was Melissa McCarthy. She nailed him so beautifully....and he laughed about it. The substance of what he said, was equally as disgusting as SHS, but he seemed to ignore the substance which was evil, and simply traded on the style which was foolish. Remember too, that he was part of early days. Trump has been president for more than a year now. He is even uglier and meaner than we imagined. SHS comes across as sarcastic, rude and deeply dedicated to whatever Trump is selling. Even though he was a card carrying Conservative pig, Spicer never came across as governed by ideology while IMO SHS does. If she walked into a press briefing in a white choir robe and started talking in tongues no one would bat an eye.

Spicer was palpably embarrassed by what he was doing, which was probably why he was fired. SHS displays not a hint of shame.

Rudy Giuliani on "This Week" - Oh. My. God.

defies description...

Spicer got some sympathy over the Vatican thing which revealed how needlessly petty Trump was but he hasn't secured a post-administration appointment AFAIK.

I don't see SHS having a career at Fox News. Besides her unappealing demeanor, she's not quick-thinking. You have to have the verbosity of Kelly Anne Conway to run with that pack. She'll disappear into some fundamentalist lobbying group set up by her father.

R462, what is Giuliani doing?

r464, He's tumbling around in his own spin - cycle. He's contradicting himself word by word.

He's your old, drunk Uncle at the holiday meal ; the one that family members have draw straws on to who has to sit with him.

I don’t get the whole “Trump wanted to save wife and family the embarrassment” defense. If he was concerned about his wife and family, wouldn’t he have chosen not to sleep with porn stars and have affairs?

Plus, I’m sure his wife and family knew. People aren’t stupid. You know when your partner is sleeping around. He just didn’t want his supporters to find out - turns out they don’t care.

Why hasn’t Trump hired Dershowitz? He’s like a less senile version of Giuliani; evil but mostly coherent.

Kyle Griffin:

Can someone sum up the This Week appearance?

R467 Dershowitz is working for Trump every time he appears on cable news.

Well it looks like "Dersh" is going to tart a cat fight with Rudy on TV. This will be fun! My prediction is that Rudy is going to fade away very soon, disappear for a month or two, then say because of certain "conflicts" he will not be able to be prat of Trump's legal team, but he will continue to "advise and support the President" where ever he can. Shortly after he will resume his Fox News commentator role. This is certainly one helluva shit mess.

R469 This is one interpretation.

R114, Trump lied under oath, too. January 20, 2017.: “To protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, from all enemies foreign and domestic.”

You people are in for a big surprise.

Mueller and Rod R. are working for Trump and have been all along. Both men are implicated in the very real Uranium One scandal and both turned coat for immunity.

The arrests that will soon occur will not be anyone on Team Trump.

You have been played for fools. Plenty of uranium brokers and pizza eaters are sweating bullets.

It's like they don't even try any more.

r474 lives in a parallel reality to ours.

Kellyanne’s lying skills are wearing off

R474 Wow, you have very special powers with inside information! Please enlighten "us people" with more!!!

R474, your insider information about the "pizza eaters sweating bullets" tells me you might be a nutritionist !

“Pizza eaters”?

Thanks, Comrade Cosmo.

Michelle Wolf calling Huckabee Sanders and Conways liars both to their faces and on national television has shaken those duplicitous bitches to their core.

Kellyian’ Conway

Lying crooks

I don't care what your politics are, or whenever you love him or hate him, aren't we well past the point where the entire nation comes together as one and turns against him out of sheer exhaustion? You can only stand having the circus in town for so many days before you want to see them fold the tent and move on down the road, and we have to be at that point with Trump.

Even his biggest fans have to cringe at the thought of living through another election cycle.

R484 Sadly, no. His base (which mind-bogglingly rose from 37% to 42%) *revels* in his chaos. They truly feel like he "gets" them.

The immoral minority may support Trump because he mirrors their failings: lying, cheating, in debt

Glad to see Jake Tapper talk over Kellyling Conway - it is the only way to kill the serpent

Don't look at numbers in polls, R485 - we all learned our lesson in the last election. I see a lot of exhaustion out there, too, R484, and especially with the local drumpfees. It's exhausting to keep up that level of hatred.

R484, EVERY DAY he is "sticking it" it to all the liberals, gays, elites, news (ex Fox), Hollywood, universities, other countries, and brown people. He fellates the NRA, prayer, coal, and for all I know NASCAR. They love it. Love it. They don't--under any circumstances--wish it would stop.

Yet.

Not nearly yet.

You can't find a lot of Nixon defenders now though.

Sexy fucker still swinging away!

For older white people and even younger white people Trump is the KKK grand dragon they have been waiting for

The Klan is a Democratic Party invention. Robert Byrd was a member.

[quote] I wouldn't be surprised if [R413] is dead-on.

Me either. If push-comes-to-shove I think Trump would resign rather than reveal embarrassing financial information.

Look at R491 pretending that there wasn't a party realignment that saw the Klan-folk bolt over the Republican tent. I guess he's also pretending that all the neo-nazis harassing, attacking and killing people aren't all big Trump supporting Republicans.

This would be an immediately impeachable offense if true. And also if we had a Republican party who weren't a bunch of fucking traitors.

I assume all the Deplorables will be outraged their President hired a private firm to dig into Obama officials and produce something like, I don't know, a dossier of opposition research.

Maybe a visual aid will help R491 see the switcheroo that took place in recent decades.

Or maybe R491 is just a troll.

Troll or idiot, R494. Check out his other post:

[quote]You people are in for a big surprise. Mueller and Rod R. are working for Trump and have been all along. Both men are implicated in the very real Uranium One scandal and both turned coat for immunity. The arrests that will soon occur will not be anyone on Team Trump. You have been played for fools. Plenty of uranium brokers and pizza eaters are sweating bullets.

What can you say to someone like that? They really are operating in a different reality.

Too much vodka...

R495, that's just hilarious.

[quote] The arrests that will soon occur

With soon defined as between now and fucking never, as they've been predicting this same bullshit for years.

Yeah, it's all part of that "QAnon" nonsense. And, my word, what nonsense it is. Someone's been trolling these guys for over six months and idiots like that have been lapping up every word. These are the same guys who think that PizzaGate is real and that Clinton is already under arrest and is wearing an ankle monitor.

None of it is real, of course, and none of the predictions has come true but there are still true believers out there like that one. See the linked DL thread for some discussions, links to some of the predictions, and a few of the true believers arguing that "time will tell."

Rudy is a fucking disaster. He has now said that he couldn't guarantee that Trump wouldn't take the Fifth Amendment to avoid answering certain questions from Mueller. Are you kidding? This bunch of immoral traitors should be tossed out of office and locked up immediately.

Agree. Rudy and Dershowitz (Lady Lavender) are despicable. Isn’t Alan also representing Harvey Weinstein? Gross

Kellylyin is mad Jake brain slapped her

Tяump will die in prison!

And Melania will take Barron and flee to Slovenia. And we’ll never have to clamp eyes on that plagiarizing prostitute again.

Two things I want bad: Proof that Cohen indeed met Russians in Prague and that the 1.6 million payment to the Playboy model was not on behalf of Brodie but to cover up for Trump. The temple will fall if these are established.

The WaPo article and video at R435 is a joy - very informative. Most of his "luxury" properties are tanking as nobody wants to hold events, buy condos, golf, etc. Many people with money don't want anything to do with him now that he is so toxic. Ivanka businesses must have tanked by now. Jared is headed to bankruptcy. The imploding is going to be absolutely shitastically fabulous.

Melania moved her parents to the USA. I wonder what the escape plan is for this branch of the family? Does Melania have private bank accounts? Any property in her name? Has she at least trucked away some of her wardrobe to a warehouse so she can present as a lady wherever she flees, to, penniless?

I still think Ivanka & Jared's trip to Croatia shortly after the birth of their child to hang with Wendy Deng on a yacht is 'suspicious'.

Melania's parents just gained their US citizenship allegedly last week. Photos of them leaving a NYC courthouse immediately after a naturalization ceremony held there.

Wow, George was really good with Rudy. Finally the press is learning how you confront lies - head on. If Rudy doesn’t know the facts, why are they even putting him out there. The more he tries to float his “it was not a campaign violation” argument, the less it holds weight

Nunes now threatening Sessions

PS, should have said the argument is sinking like a lead balloon. Of course it was an illegal campaign contribution - Rudy trying to say “case closed” shows his little he knows about campaign finance law

Nunes threatening Sessions should go over real well with GOP Senators.

There's an interesting article on Melania at the Wash Post. Apparently, they live separately inside that White House. Have very little to do with each other.

Forgot to link Melania article.

I wonder when was the last time she let him bone her. 2007?

[quote]Nunes threatening Sessions should go over real well with GOP Senators.

They've proven time and time again they don't care.

So who IS he boning nowadays, then? Who’s the millenial Monica Lewinsky?

I hope Mueller starts from the outer circle of GOP Congress, eliminating all the enablers, as he zeros in on Trump for the coup de grâce.

You're assuming he can still get it up, r515.

[quote]Melania's parents just gained their US citizenship allegedly last week. Photos of them leaving a NYC courthouse immediately after a naturalization ceremony held there.

the link at r512 says

"Her husband rails against family-based “chain migration”; she is from Slovenia and now her parents, also immigrants, have become legal resident here, too."

This reality shit show has got to end. The return of talking-out-of-his-ass Giuliani is the last straw. The whole Republican party and a large part of the federal government has been perverted into a lying, cheating, cover up machine for Trump. He is the Swamp!

[quote]You're assuming he can still get it up, [R515].

Well, let's ask the eminent Dr. Ronny Jackson...

"OMG, yes. As big as my arm. Hard as steel at all times. I've seen smaller on bulls!"

r510....and yet, they keep voting to put the assholes in office.

Nunes, Gaetz, Meadows, Biggs, and Jordan, should just go ahead and move to Moscow (not the one in Idaho).

R515, he's down to Rudy G. in drag. Perhaps Rudy's pee pee skills are well-seasoned.

That's a really disturbing image, R523.

There's always a lot going on with Trump. This Rudy sideshow is masking other shit that's going on. I'm also thinking they are inadvertently telegraphing to people that the investigation is getting closer to Trump. Much closer. Right now there's two people I'm watching besides Cohen: Manafort and Jared. And at first I was one who believed Cohen would never flip. He was a True Believer. But now it appears his idol is ready to cut him loose. It's that whole, "Plausible Deniability" thing. It's like the guy said in Godfather II, "this family has a lot of buffers!"

I may sound like a broken record, but Trump throwing so many of his underlings under the bus why is anyone thinking that they'd be loyal to him? Out of fear? What power does he have beyond begging Putin to do things for him? All he can give these idiots, who fall on the sword for him, is a dacha in Russia. And even for that they, surely, have to pay full price. Because they are dealing with Trump after all.

[quote]That's a really disturbing image, [R523].

I cannot for the life of me imagine a NON-disturbing image of Trump.

I dunno. The sight of Trump, shaved bald, sitting in a prison cell would put a smile on my face.

Matthew Yglesias @mattyglesias

I like that the main news story of the moment is about the president’s hush money payments to people he’s had affairs with but it’s conventionally considered wildly implausible that Russian intelligence could be blackmailing him with a sex tape.

Where is the clip of that bitch "Judge" Jeanine Pirro from the fall of 2016 saying that we can't elect a president who is going to be under investigation every day for multiple issues?

Yeah. How did that work out?

I'm busy compiling yet another list of 70 names and all of them include Ivanka and Kushner. A girl can dream.

Who knew that uptight person, Pirro, was prescient? She was just looking in the wrong direction.

In addition to Devin Nunes, there is the band (did Politico mean to say gang?) of four warriors apparently willing to take any measure to undermine the DOJ and specifically the Mueller investigation. These four include Jim Jordan, Mark Meadows, Matt Gaetz, and Ron DeSantis. They are from districts that voted heavily for Trump in 2016. There are others such as Louie Gohmert that fervently support Trump, but those four are particularly aggressive in pursuing strategies to upend the investigation.

R526, it's because Trump is an idiot. His fellow idiots think they are the one who can control him or make him great. Everyone else who failed is just a loser. I see this phenomenon when I've had opposing parties who are unbelievably stupid, manipulative and shameless. They always find idiot attorneys with delusions of grandeur who think they can control their clients and turn the whole case around for them. Often those attorneys end up royally screwed and begging the judge to let them get off the case.

The other explanation is Trump is surrounded by people just as dirty as he is, so they have no choice but to help him to save their own necks.

Some idiots see Trump as a challenge who can raise their profile (if they succeed). Some idiots just believe they will be rewarded either by him or someoneone close to him (Putin?).

R506, there are a few of us who post on these threads who cannot wait to find out what Ivanka and Wendy's adventure was really about. Treason of the Witch.

I also cannot wait to find out what kind of bag Ivanka used in her role, as I suspect, as Daddy's Bag woman. Hermes? Fendi? Chanel? We know it wasn't an Ivanka.

I think some of these people are truly afraid for their lives. I'm talking about Manafort, and even possibly Cohen. The Russians do not play. They will kill a motherfucker. Go back and look at the long list of "suspicious deaths in the past three years alone, both in Russia and here in the USA. It's pretty obvious Cohen is mobbed up. His family goes back a ways as Russian mobsters go. But they aren't fucking around with petty rivals now. They may be in the untenable position of having to rat out someone(Trump) who is protected by some powerful forces. People keep waiting for some blackmail t apes. I don't think Trump would give a fuck about sex tapes. Shit. He's 71. No. I believe it's about money. Trump is scared that his Russian buddies will cut him off. and if he betrays Putin and turns on him, he will have more than money issues to worry about.

The Russians may very well threaten the lives of a persons family. that's how they roll.

Trump's Twitter posts this morning just reek, absolutely reek, of panic and terror.

I love it.

Randy Rainbow's take on Rudy for anyone who hasn't seen it. Just a little humor to brighten our Monday morning.

Rudy seemed to suggest there may have been other payments to young ladies for their services. Another poster up thread wisely postulated that maybe the $1.6 million paid for Broidy (sic) was really for Trump.

Although trump being so cheap, that sounds rather high to be believable. Unless there was abortion involved.

R535, some of us also wonder if that quickie "vacation" with Wendi Deng had something to do with the rumored incredibly damaging dealings Trump had with the Chinese. I mean the DOJ flat-out warned them that Deng might try to influence them on China's behalf.

Thanks R541!!! Loved it!!! Randy is brilliant as usual.

If I remember right, when Ivanka and Jared vacationed with Wendy - it was when she was Putin's girlfriend. But she could have been a Chinese spy that far back too. The girl got around.

Said before, but those sons, Don Jr. and Eric, are disgusting. It takes horrible people who see killing exotic and big game as playtime.

and weren't they on Geffen's yacht? just wierd

Yes they were, R547. It was during the campaign, and Ivanka has a newborn at home.

What does Jared jerk off to?

Jared jerks off to sex tapes he made getting creamed by handsome WASPS at Harvard. Daddy didn't spend those millions to leave Jared's smooth pink hole neglected by the cream of American jeunesse.

I was a bit taken a back today at the SarahShow press conference. Some reporter actually asked if Melania even lives at the WH or rather elsewhere with her parents. Now that takes balls to ask. Maybe that will give these spineless reporters the confidence to hammer her on other subjects as well.

Pin her down on her lies.

I grew up in an evangelical church and have seen SHS's story a hundred times. She's been subservient, doting, fawning girl/daughter/wife/mother her whole life. Now the WH press room is her fiefdom and she can let fly with her passive-aggressive anger AND get praise from big, strict Daddy. She's not sweating Trump's integrity in any regard.

The only TRUTH 'Christian Warriors' care about is 'the way, the truth and the life'. They're groomed to compartmentalize and rationalize and justify. There is a term in sociological development, I forget what it's called, where at the end of a person's journey they might throw away care for rules and laws because they want their own way for themselves and everyone else. Today's Evangelicals are taught that very early in life.

I'll eat my hat if SHS quits for any reason other than exhaustion or frustration. She's on a righteous mission for all those daddies up the chain.

Jared Kushner's job is to bring mideast peace, reform government, solve the opioid crisis, reform the criminal justice system, and being a liaison to the Muslim community, a liaison to China, and a liaison to Mexico.

Is there a progress report?

[quote] Is there a progress report?

Thanks to Wendi Deng he can now find China on a map. Still working on Mexico, and don't even get me started on the Middle East.

553, just so you know, Jared is extremely popular in the Muslim Community due to his ceaseless outreach. There is even a mosque in Detroit called In'shala al Jared.

[quote]Is this Phony Witch Hunt going to go on even longer so it wrongfully impacts the Mid-Term Elections, which is what the Democrats always intended?

If it's so phony it'll have no impact, and Fox can proclaim the glory of Trump so he prevails. Odd that Trump is so exercised about an investigation which in his version can only exonerate him of all suspicion. Which would possibly make it non-phony. Trumpland in its way is like quantum physics.

So maybe some of that extra money Cohen got went to Black Cube as well as abortions and hackers? It was certainly going somewhere that has Trump going out of his tree more than usual, and he wouldn't be this panicked if it was just women, even if they had abortions. His supporters certainly don't care. The Jesus freaks would explain it all away. Cohen did something highly illegal with that money.

She continually says there is no collusion, no obstruction, no there.....there. That Mueller has found NOTHING!!!

Why haven’t the press asked her how she knows this? Is there a back channel to the Mueller investigation they have that verifies this? Has he found nothing and let them know? Otherwise, she is a liar and the press lets her get away with it.

Very frustrating. Take the gloves off, press. Put that hag and the WH on boil.

Fun! The Reality Show is making an Important Announcement about Iran tomorrow at 2pm ET.

Wendi Deng was married to Rupert Murdoch and has close relations to Putin. It was suspious timing and circumstances for the Kushners to have traveled abroad and meet with her and whomever else. Ivanka just had a newborn. Isn't that a critical time for parental bonding?

^suspicious

This thing is making me sick. I am so worried that Mueller and Rosenstein will be fired soon and the Republicans will let it go and the Democrats won't be able to do anything. Cohen won't flip because he knows it's only a matter of a few years before Trump pardons him and Trump, once again gets away Scot free. As a pundit on MSNBC just said we might be about to find out how the checks and balances work and how strong the constitution really is. It's only as strong as the people elected to support it and the Republicans in office right now will go down in infamy as the worst.

What can we, the ordinary citizen, do to protest this. To let the congress no they won't survive t.hese disgusting actions. At this point I'm just beyond depressed and hopeless.

Vote Democrats in, weak as they are.

VOTE Democrat. There's no real alternative. I don't agree with a few of the Democratic party positions, but Trump and the GOP are damaging the country bigtime with their corruption, incompetence, dismal policies, and by undermining the judiciary.

I'm sure this has been said countless times in countless forms... But I just heard someone on the radio say:

"The #1 Enemy of the United States is the Republican Party."

Complete truth.

The greatest threat to the world is the Republican Party, period.

[quote]The greatest threat to the world is the Republican Party, period.

Not so fast there. They are nothing without their sexy Puppeteer.

r567.....The GOP was corrupt LONG before they aligned themselves with Putin.

Is it me or is Putin looking a little botoxy? How old is this ghoul/our new leader?

R568... did anyone say they weren't?

You said they were nothing without their puppeteer......did I not read that correctly ?

I just heard a clip of Avenatti talking about Ghouliani's poor attempt at trying to cover for Drumpf when he said that Drumpf has always had a legal slush fund to pay off people, like Stormy.

He basically pointed out that if that were the case, why would Cohen have needed to set up a brand new LLC to make the payment to Stormy.

Saying they aren't currently anything without their current puppet master does not mean they weren't corrupt before.

None of them can keep their lies straight. They can't even be bothered to make sure they make even the slightest bit of sense.

Rethugs have always been corrupt but they're certainly now at the mercy of their financier.

Download some boilerplate FLOTUS shit off the intertubes and give it to Melania to keep her busy.

R574, I think they do it to confuse and obfuscate. I also believe Ghouliana is focusing on the Daniel's affair to distract from the totality of the payments to others. Not everyone watching this has the attention span of a gnat, so it's obvious to me that they're playing to their 'base.'

Wait.. did we discuss, "Be Best..."

Certainly we're not going to overlook that, are we?

It has its own thread.

Honestly, R578, do we have to? There is a thread connected to it, but the crazy of this woman is becoming more apparent with everything she puts out there.

Yes, but I'm surprised nobody mentioned it here.

Why would we? This isn't a thread about the First Lady or her initiatives and that initiative doesn't have anything to do with treason, the Mueller investigation, money-laundering, etc.

BE BEST, JUST SAY NO.

Yeah, R582 because we haven't discussed a myriad of other things in these threads. Just the scope of the investigation.

Launder 1/2 a billion of Russian money with Deutsche Bank. Who cares? Now the king of debt pays cash. Ivanka seals the deals. Who's ever going to look?

Set up that tie line in Trump Tower direct to Moscow. Who's looking? No-one. And who cares if they are?

But Merkel LURVS her Deutsche Bank. So how could her hands be clean.

They are all one dirty gross human centipede cabal. Merkel is rimming the Saudi Crown Prince, and Jared is sucking him at the same time, while petrol billions pour out the shitters of the Middle East into the mouths of corrupt puppets who then shit them into secret bank accounts.

I didn't even catch the Be Best thing until this afternoon. Jesus, too much to cringe about.

I wish there was someone in the crowd holding up a poster of a naked Melania fingering herself...it would have been appropriate.

Link to new thread for when this one fills up:

Be Best Hooker

The thing about Putin is, while he's dangerous, without a corrupt and treasonously complicit GOP he's not that much of a threat. Militarily, other than nukes, and economically, Russia is no superpower. If the US were to apply the sanctions that should already be in place, Putin's empire would shrivel up and die.

Move over Donald and Melania, it it Caitlyn invited to speak to the House of Commons.

When is DJT going to the UK? Does he fear protests?

Didn't the Orange one already tap Caitlyn?

^Wasn't that Lyin' Ted? Caitlyn wanted to be HIS Transgender Ambassador.

Please r592, even Trump has better taste than that.

Sure he does, R594.

Link to new thread:

Bajour

#Basta

Let's finish this.

Are we there yet?

Use the link below for the new thread.