Dangerous Tre'asons (The Mueller Investigation Part 23)

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Previous thread titles for reference:

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation (10/27/17)

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation, Part Two (10/28/17)

The Four Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 3 (10/31/17)

A Man For All Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 4 (11/5/17)

It's Beginning to Look a lot like Treason! The Mueller Investigation Part 5 (12/4/17)

Treason Is The Reason For The Season! The Mueller Investigation Part 6 (12/16/17)

Treason to Believe (The Mueller Investigation Part 7) (12/26/17)

I Love You For Sentimental Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 8) (1/3/18)

Give Me One Treason To Stay Here... (The Mueller Investigation Part 9) (1/15/18)

Treasons of Love (The Mueller Investigation Part 10) (1/24/18)

For Treasons Which Are Well Known To Them (The Mueller Investigation Part 11) (1/30/18)

Come on and Treason Down, Treason Down the Road (The Mueller Investigation Part 12) (2/6/18)

13 Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 13) (2/18/18)

By Treason of Insanity (The Mueller Investigation Part 14) (2/23/18)

The Edge of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 15) (2/28/18)

A Treason to Live; A Treason to Die (The Mueller Investigation Part 16)…(3/10/18)

Treasons of the Heart (The Mueller Investigation Part 17) (3/17/18)

A Stormy Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 18) (3/21/18)

Lovin', Touchin', Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 19) (3/26/18)

Everything Happens for a Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 20) (4/4/18)

For All the Right Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 21) (4/11/18)

Treasons Change (The Mueller Investigation Part 22) (4/16/18)

Dangerous Tre'asons (The Mueller Investigation Part 23) (4/22/18)

Like this thread title. Keep them coming.

I can only hope this little movie ends with Trump getting booed in public, going home and wiping the orange off his face while a single tear trickles down his cheek.

Or, failing that, jail.

Love this thread title too!

In the future can we just allow the OP to start the threads if possible? I like that OP takes down all of our suggestions and posts them accordingly (in terms of trying to match them up with current events). People starting the new threads so early just so they can get their title up is annoying. Just put your suggestion in and wait! OP has shown that he/she will use them when the time comes!

I love you, R4.

Trump has always had a dirty, smelly greasiness attached to him. His father did, too. Sleazy grease. Now his sons have the greasy look. Even Barron has it.

Remember this time last year, when we were all so hopeful that this regime would be done for by the autumn? And the worst part is, I can totally see myself saying this exact same thing a year hence.

WHET the investigation into Jay Sekulow and his family? They pay themselves millions from his phony charity, which is plainly against the law. It was “being looked into” last year and then it disappeared

OP, is #22 your thread too?

Fake Russian Concern Troll at R8 Alert!

The trolls really are desperate, bumping dozens of old threads about Sarah Palin, Piers Morgan, Ann Coulter, etc. trying to bury the threads with the good stuff.

Then I'm bumping this one. Just to show them.

The nine justices of the U.S. Supreme Court will take their seats Tuesday morning to hear a case that could remake the political map of Texas.

This week, Texas will move to center stage as the Supreme Court takes up Abbott v. Perez, a gerrymandering case that adds a racial overlay to the usual partisan redistricting narrative.

"It's important for the political process in Texas that ultimately they draw fair districts, which means that as the population changes and grows, the political jurisdictions reflect the people in those districts," said U.S. Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, who represents a majority-minority district in central Houston.

^Texas gerrymandering case before Supreme Court could change state's political map^

You know all of these gerrymandering cases that are now making their way through the court system are a result of Obama and Eric Holder, right? It's what they chose to focus on after leaving office. Not sexy, but effective! Next up, the other unsexy but politics altering, campaign finance reform.

Wow there really are a lot of trolls on DL this weekend. Several of them claiming to be from PA, OH and WI!!! And yet couldn't point to those states on a map if one was sent to them with a bottle of Vodka.

Something must be coming this week.

Why isn't KellyAnne under indictment? God, she is a pig.

Ole Kellyanne and the breaking the Hatch Act rules. Something is coming as she was out spinning and deflecting.

But give her credit, her pussy thread maxed out.

Maybe you wake up one day and your husband has taken half your savings!

I cant believe that Devin Nunes is still at it....and now claiming there was no intelligence from any agency...even 5eyes....that was used to open the Trump/Russia investigation.......that it was Hillary co-conspirators in the State Dept and they were funneling false information to the FBI under the direction of Hillary.

Why doesnt anybody stop this idiot ?.....talk about desperate.

^^^sorry....link for r21^^^^^^

I’m not seeing all these trolls being spoken of. At least not in this thread. I don’t think it’s “concern trolling” because someone mentions their disappointment that Trump is still here. I’m disappointed, too. That makes me a troll? I agree that it sometimes feels hopeless when all this horseshit is tumbling down on the country - stuff that would have entombed anyone else in office - and nothing gets done about it. There’s a shitstorm on Twitter, then everyone goes back to letting this train wreck happen. It should’ve been stopped a long time ago, but the media couldn’t wait to get Trump into office so they could have ratings for 4 years.

I wish Trump would just fucking die. His children don’t have the evil cunning he has (they’re just plain evil), so his empire will fall not long after his death. And Melania will have fucked that baboon for nothing. But alas, only the good die young and people like Dick Cheney, Rupert Murdoch and Donald Trump will live into their 90s, like a certain cunty old First Lady who just croaked it.

I kinda believe the rumors that he won't be running in 2020.

Are you sure about not seeing any trolls r23? I'd seen plenty, and I'm not including concern trolls. Is it possible you already have them blocked?

For the people who asked last thread about the Trump Servers:

If the Trump server pinged between a Russian Bank and the DeVoss/Prince family server then is it too big of a leap of faith that the servers were internet blinking headlights for pre determined bank accounts to open portals and transfer money? That the pings were signals for money laundering.

I didn't know Trump that well except I knew he was a criminal and had no morals so at first I thought he would resign, at this point I think the only thing that would make him resign would be the indictment of Jared and Ivanka.

Ut oh, the base is not happy.

Something important should come down this week...why can't Jared be arrested?

There is a hold out for the McCain funeral.

Yes, you are a Fake Concern Troll at R23.

Read this fascinating Seth Abramson Twitter Train:

Im sure that Mueller is looking into the server.....remember, the first thing he did was consolidate all of the FBI cases together and he took over......including Manafort and Flynn.......that would also explain why Eric Prince keeps popping up. Mueller is going to get them all.

DJT tweeting attacks on the FBI, Special fed & State investigators, the DOJ, and certain powerful media, is not a good idea. It may please Nunes and get Miz Lindzey tingly, but he'll regret it. This ain't about competing bids to buy some shitty hotel property.

A bunch of the trolls are active on some of the other threads and quickly deleting their cookies and speaking to themselves.

This week look promising!

OP pic says it all... This is all about Don and Rudy, and their pact with the Devil.... I mean Putin. Giuliani crawling back out of his hole to "fix" things signals the endgame.

Trump is really letting his anti-semitism through today, Neo Nazis use "sleepy eyes" to refer to how to spot a Jew, he is using this to insult a Jewish journalist. He does this to rile up and keep his base happy, and of course no one gives a shit. It sickens me that we have fallen so far under his presidency.

So evangelical fundies are fine with piss play, grabbing pussy, repetitive adultery, nasty name calling, mistreating subordinates, praising an intrusive foreign adversary, greed by the wealthy at their expense, abuse of the environment, screwing over Playboy bunnies and a porn star, etc., because they say the "Lawd" sent DJT to them?

Then it is the liberals advocating for morality, decency, and patriotism.

The GOP have always been hypocrites r40........remember Newt Gingrich ?.....leading the charge, trying to impeach Clinton for a blowjob after spending 6 years, millions of dollars and a special counsel investigation into Whitewater that was supposed to be so scandalous, meanwhile his wife is served divorce papers as she dying in a hospital so he can marry Calista who he had been fucking around with in an affair.

^^^^and they found nothing^^^^^^

[quote]If the Trump server pinged between a Russian Bank and the DeVoss/Prince family server then is it too big of a leap of faith that the servers were internet blinking headlights for pre determined bank accounts to open portals and transfer money? That the pings were signals for money laundering.

The theory/rumor floating around among tech geeks on Twitter is the pings have to do with syncing/updating Cambridge Analytica databases between US and Russia.

Geeez R30, warn a person before you show that thing around. What the hell?

r43....correct....the data was being washed through Spectrum Health servers in PA...........thats how Eric Prince comes into the story ...and who knows who else in the DeVos family.

The evangelicals love Trump because he is into white power and anti-abortion (although privately we know he has paid for abortions and hookers). I wish it was more nuanced but that’s all they care about - white power and pro-life

How great would it be if one of the females he sexually objectified were a person color?!

This has a thread of it's own but thought it should be here as well....

Sad that the most important photo of Trump’s presidency is all the other presidents and Melania at Barbara Bush’s funeral. Even George Conway retweeted it

"Smiles everyone. Pretend this is Trump's funeral"

[quote] Pretend this is Trump's funeral

Sorry, for getting drunk on champagne and laughing hysterically.

OP, I humbly suggest "Orange Is the New Treason" for when the time comes.

I love how on 60 Minutes tonight they interviewed the English professor working for Cambridge Analytica, in Cambridge, but neglected to remind people that her was a fully subsidized grant recipient of the Russian government at the University of St. Petersburg. Wonder how the Russians got the CA data...hmmm...

Connect the fucking dots CBS.

r50, I love it! best post on here!

I agree, r38. I've said this in past threads, and I'll say it again here:

I've always thought Rudy Giuliani and Jared Kushner were the dirtiest in this whole mess.

A side benefit of all of this is that people like Erik Prince of Blackwater (De Vos's brother) have been dirty for years. contracting out on the international stage, hired guns for who ever can afford his services, and deal making with adversaries of the United States. He is no patriot. He's an arrogant piece of shit who truly does believe he is above the law. As this Trump debacle unravels it is going to expose and hopefully take down Prince and others like him. This is an interlocking international network of criminal enterprise. Controlling the gas and oil leases all over the work, controlling fresh water and food, this is massive. It wasn't just Hillary, it was Obama leading the charge for clean water less pollution, less reliance on fossil fuels, etc. And Hillary was a bold, courageous SoS. I can understand why Putin, and all these others hated her. She & Obama represented the future, and the tides of history are with them.

The thing is everybody thinks he is too big to fail until he realizes that the ones above him decided that he's not big enough. And there is always somone above you who is bigger and more powerful (willing to sacrifice you to save his own skin).

R56 the whole cabal thinks they're above the law. They act with impunity. That Seth Abramason tweet is pretty astounding if to be believed, meaning the scope of this. I think he is right. It is massive and far reaching.

I agree, R58, Seth's tweets lay out the potential scope of this, and it is massive. It is to the advantage of the reich-wing to try and stuff this into one small box. But if you just look at the scope of what Mueller is involved with, you see that it must be extremely wide-reaching.

Fasten your seatbelts, it’s going to be a bumpy week.

[Quote] But if you just look at the scope of what Mueller is involved with, you see that it must be extremely wide-reaching.

Exactly. That's why the Fake Concern Trolls work so hard at getting us gays to be dismayed at the length of time that it is taking for Mueller to spring the trap on Trump. It's going to take a LONG time, Fake Concern Trolls!

And then the Concern Troll Defenders who post, "Everyone who is worried isn't a troll!" as just as bad. They are trying to bring everyone down into a state of despair which will breed inaction. That is their goal: inaction to get out the vote to take back the country from the Reich-Wing (LOVE that term!) and Putin.

Don't even engage the Concern Troll Defenders because they are part of the same assault on us.

It's over when the fat lady sings.

R62 Hopefully in jail.

I can't even begin to predict what will happen first this week.

Trolls are bumping Sarandon and Clinto threads like mad.... really will be interesting to see what's happening this week.

I believe it's because of the Milo thread which was spammed by DL's very own Matt. The thread is supposed to be pushed further down than users are willing to scroll to view threads they have not yet read.

Pompeo is up for confirmation....I cant believe nobody is mentioning that he DID NOT serve in the Gulf War as his resume and his congressional buddies rave about. Anyone else and THAT alone would have been a kiss of death. WTF ?

R67 because the excuse is that he never made that claim... he just didn't correct anyone else that did.

Thanks OP for keeping these threads going!

LOVE this title so thanks to whoever came up with it.

Also, I agree with R5 can we just keep things going the way they are?

R52 that isn't how these titles work.

Seth....

Thanks r62. That gave me a good laugh (and an unfortunate earworm)

I said it ages ago. IMO I think this investigation may go on for three years. Now I'm not suggesting it'll take Mueller that long to get Trump, I think that will happen sooner. But when you consider how wide reaching this is, all the players the networks the depth of corruption the number of laws that were broken, etc. this is an investigation that could, at some point after Trump, be reauthorized and continued for up to four or five years. And honestly? It would be worth every fucking dime. Because IMO, just as we needed Obama to pull us back from the abyss of financial catastrophe, right now we need someone of Mueller's stature to pull our country back from the abyss because our Democracy is in mortal danger. I know. Mary! But it's true.

The investigation will take as long Mueller knows his findings will be used to force Trump to resign.

This investigation will continue after Trump is removed.....Mueller will get them all.....

There was a flury of Trans hate threads earlier. Enough of that crap. Am not interested in trans, but not going to lunge cruel comments at them either.

Trolls trying to derail threads. Just put them on ignore.

Bumping up due to the first 200 threads on Datalounge currently being about Faye and Trans issues...

r78, that's what thread watcher is for. Keeping the thread nearby so you can click on it and check if more comments have been posted.

19 December 1986: Lawrence Walsh is appointed Independent Counsel for Iran/Contra Matters by the Special Division of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia 4 August 1993: Final Report of the Independent Counsel for Iran/Contra Matters is published.

Bunpity bump for potential Mann Act violations for Cohen

bumpers get blocked

Wow all the threads being bumped about Clinton... they obviously are really scared about something.

I don’t engage in bumping threads, however I don’t see anything wrong with keeping threads like these close to the top. The thread watcher is only for p pole who have visited the thread already and decide to follow it. It doesn’t take care of new eyes.

R83, I was just thinking the same thing. Russian bots have been bumping “Bernie should have won “ threads on Twitter. This leads me to speculate that there might be evidence that Clinton won those swing states coming out this week, thus the full-once propaganda onslaught.

They've been bumping the hell out of Hillary threads here.

I have no doubt she beat him fair and square wherever she did and also won the general election and the electoral. What they hid in Reality Winner's reveal was suppressed because it meant that the election was invalid. No one wanted the chaos that would engender, but I think they should have called off the elections and secured the voting system. Everyone should have been on board with that, and was. Everyone but McConnell, the traitor from Kentucky. I will never forget or forgive that POS for refusing Obama's request to issue a joint statement. He knew the fix was in.

R83, it's never too early for the vile, contemptible GOP to start their smear campaign. They have announced in the past week that Hillary Clinton will be the cornerstone, the main focus of their 2018 Mid term elections campaigning. So the fact we are seeing more trolls and their ridiculous attempts to re-litigate 2016, and get us all to thinking about Bad Hillary, and how she should be punished and prosecuted and investigated ad nauseam, is what they're about. The trolls, the renewed pubic comments, etc. It is beyond disgusting to me that in the United States of America we're literally allowing a political party and its leadership to call for the prosecution of it's enemies even when exhaustive investigations have proven there is nothing to investigate. Even worse are the media who buy into it. My heart goes out to Secretary Clinton. At some point I sure would love to see a backlash kick in an run the Republicans out of town. All of them. There isn't one asshole worth redeeming. The fact is we can RICO the RNC with complete justification.

R87 what pisses me off is that it would NOT have engendered chaos. All that would have been necessary is for about 36-37 Electoral votes to be recast. The previous vote woud get decertified, the new Electoral votes recast, and done and done. It should have been done early last year. Because they knew.

I think it would have been chaotic only in the time they figured out where the voting was compromised. It would have required the whole election to be thrown out, rather than just a few electoral votes recast. This affected a lot of down ticket elections and would have required a complete audit. And yes, because they knew.

Mitch McConnell is a cunt.

Almost as big a cunt as tRump.

Almost.

I think Mitch is even worse...he is a racist, lowlife, crooked cuntface.

His legacy will not be a good one.

Mitch & Elaine Chao.

Paradise Papers? International shipping? Off-shore tax havens?

Chao chain migration? Will DJT cite this?

23 of the Trolls I had blocked are now unblocked in the last 30 minutes. They ALL did it at once?

Proof of the Russian Troll Farm!

ALL of the Treason/Nicole Kidman/QAnon Trolls have cleared cookies in the last half-hour.

WTF???

I saw that, too, R95. Something big must be about to come down for them to be so desperate.

Its probably a singular desperate person with no life that gets off on playing a troll online.......

And you sound like someone trying to get us to believe there are no Russian Trolls here. Got it.

r98...get a fucking life....nobody said there werent Russian trolls.....this particular troll however, plants himself in threads and is relentless....Russian trolls stick to talking points and for the most part hit and run.

Enjoy, Russian trolls!

It isn't just one troll. It's several. The way in which they're only posting in particular threads, usually two or three of them at a time and then clearing cookies at the same time shows it is a coordinated effort.

So are the trolls paying members? You have to pay to start a thread.

No you don't R102.

But that's not exactly what's happening anyway. A lot of them are just bumping old threads.

Hopefully this will clear up and we can get back to the discussion about this wreck of an administration.

Back on track. I hate the phrase Concern Troll. Most of the time I’m very hopeful that Robert Mueller will be able to do his job and uncover the massive amounts of crimes we know Trump has committed. But sometimes I feel like I’m going to lose it. That’s when I (along with many, I’m sure) post how they’re worried that Trump will get away with everything. He’s in his 70s and has gotten away with a lifetime of crime. I know we have to be patient but sometimes it’s really hard for some of us. It isn’t fake concern...it’s real panic.

I hear you , R105. I think people are justified in being concerned that he'll get away with it because he's gotten away with it his whole life and so many of the fucking Rethuglicans are enabling him in an effort to hide their own fucking crimes.

[quote]Its probably a singular desperate person with no life that gets off on playing a troll online.......

That's pretty much what it is. It's Matt Anscher, a well-known troll. He's been dormant for the past few months but he came back today with a vengeance. He's already done his trademark practice of killing threads by using a script to swamp them with enough posts that they hit the 600-post limit in minutes. He routinely uses a dozen or more accounts (today, it's closer to two dozen verified), and he's the one doing much of this thread-bumping.

At some point, either his manic phase will end or the webmaster will finally get enough complaints to take action.

[quote]So are the trolls paying members? You have to pay to start a thread.

I don't think so, unless that has changed in the past few days. You just have to have had a certain minimum number of visits.

So he doesn't work R107. He's on disability or has a trust fund. No way this guy works and has time for that shit. I'm betting he's using taxpayer money to live.

Maybe he can't afford his meds. These intervals of good behavior followed by a trolling meltdown have become a cycle.

R110 there are intervals where he basically behaves and even some of his FB posts are sane and reasonable sounding. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a regular visitor but when he starts up his shit I go peek to see what is that could have set him off. I've noticed his family doesn't seem like they get along too well with him. Something of a black sheep, I gather or they are just exhausted by his mental illness.

Definitely, a noticeable cycle.

Your post, R111, sounds just like Trump, btw. Thanks for staying on topic while not actually doing so. That's hard to pull off!

And they hijack my talking points. I am the master of spin, deflection, and deception. The Russher trolls are the choir and not always clever.

LOL, oh shit. Wrong thread totally.

It's not one person. Plus, the Concern Troll Defenders ARE Trolls, too.

Thank you, Muriel, for pulling another clean sweep this afternoon, though.

Matthew doesn't have 23 different browsers open and posting at the same time on different threads. It's not 23 POSTS, it's 23 separated blocked people. Five or seven, I could believe, but not 23. Those are a GROUP of people.

Just like the Concern Troll Defenders are here to make us feel helpless about Trump.

[Quote] I know we have to be patient but sometimes it’s really hard for some of us. It isn’t fake concern...it’s real panic.

Then go start a Worried thread, Troll.

To be fair, the pee pee girls chosen were quite talented.

R116, I'll just leave it that you don't know Matt.

[quote]I hate the phrase Concern Troll.

But see the linked thread for one such example. Such things do exist. If the accusation doesn't fit, don't worry about it.

Half of the world would like to see Eric Prince thrown in prison for life.

Contern troll trolls are trolls too!

I've known who the fuck Matthew is for the last four years I've been here. He posts NOTHING like the 23 Trolls I had blocked who were then suddenly all unblocked in less than 30 minutes. He's not that clever to disguise himself. His tells ALWAYS pop out after very little time.

Beware those who say that the DL is "too obscure for Russians to waste their time on."

[quote]Beware those who say that the DL is "too obscure for Russians to waste their time on."

After everything we've seen the past year or so... do people really believe that DL hasn't been invaded?

The right half, r120.

Back to Mueller!

Interesting from Kyle Griffin:

I don't know why anyone would think any of these assholes would be so loyal and not flip. They all stick together because they're the same kind of asshole... assholes who when it all comes down to saving their own asses, they will.

Here we have Prince running fiefdoms all over the world, pilfering of the taxpayer pocket with Phone booth Pruitt, furniture follies and HUD handouts for 'Hannities' with the Slow One, Kushner the snake sneaking out an enemies list to the Saudis, Precious Ivanka complicit in making sweetheart deals for daddy, Kellyanne melting down in a puddle of swill, Melania imitating Jackie, and Trump sits his fat ass down to ketchup and burnt beef at Mt. Vernon to describe despot dreams to the leader of the country that helped us become one. Where's my damn pitchfork?

As someone on TV said a few minute ago, the Mueller guys do 't need to flip Michael Cohen. They have enough evidence and information right now to bring charges against Michael. And of course as he has so many other times the POTUS is sending broad signals that he will pardon Michael, which, don't hold your breath. IMO, I believe this whole line of thinking that is being promoted by the media and the pundits, very likely through "leaks" from somewhere, to drive Trump nuts. They're designed to rattle Trump. It isn't the probability of Cohen flipping that is driving Trump crazy, it's the possibility. And it is against the law, in fact it is obstruction to dangle a pardon out there and try to tamper with a witness.

This is slightly off topic, but the lunatic Scott Pruitt has broken the law. He needs to not just get fired, he needs to be charged and prosecuted.

Well said r127

And that's not even half of what's happened, happening, or will happen!

[quote]After everything we've seen the past year or so... do people really believe that DL hasn't been invaded?

Does it matter? I'm fine with the speculation but what difference does it make whether someone is posting stupid shit because they're a Russian operative, or because they're blindly partisan, or because they're a sociopathic troll, or because they're genuinely stupid?

No matter which it is, the end result is the same: stupid shit. Respond to that (or block or F&F) and take the speculation as a fun game and nothing more.

I agree with everything you said, r131, except the word “respond”.

Ignore the trolls. As long as they know they have an audience, they will continue to troll.

R131 I didn't say it mattered nor did I say anyone should be responding. The fact that anyone would question whether or not Russian trolls have invaded DL just like they've invaded thousands of other social media sites is ridiculous.

And I have reminded people over and over in this thread to not engage the trolls. So far, it's helped in reducing the number that come in here.

I just keep blocking. No problem. They are so damned stupid. They think we can't tell. Right.

Whoo Lord, they are really fucking with Trump's head. All this talk about how badly he treated Michael Cohen. So many people talking about how he treated Cohen like shit.

They want Trump to believe Cohen will flip. But you know what? I think too many evil people like those Russian oligarchs and Putin himself are too invested in the Trump Presidency. If Cohen flipped to help take him down, Cohen would make some very powerful enemies and might not survive. But if Cohen doesn't cooperate, they may threaten him with asset forfeiture. He could lose everything. If he has his properties in his own name.

The Seth Abarmson twitter thread at r34 is excellent and well worth a read, for anyone here that skipped it.

Stormy Daniels’s Lawyer Michael Avenatti Releases Dropbox Folder of Transcripts, Tweets, to Discredit Sean Hannity

Basta!

LOL! R138 I love that. I'm going to start doing it on Twitter too. #basta

I'm off for a while to listen to Sarah Huckabee Sanders' latest hit song.

Michael Avenatti predicts Trump won't complete his term. #Basta!

Avenatti is reaching out to Sean Hannity

I'm sure Hannity won't take the bait. Like most bullies, deep down he is a coward.

I love the tweets where the Cheetolini claims Cohen won't flip. Doesn't he realize that is in itself an admission of guilt? Moron.

I'm still waiting for Hannity to make good on his offer to get waterboarded to show how mild it is.

Miss Lindsey bragged on Twitter about her interviews with Martha.

The twitter responses read very DLish.

Yeah r143 Hannity will never agree to an actual debate with Michael Avenatti, but wouldn't it be glorious if he did? Can you imagine him having to answer some of Avenatti's questions? He would be SO outmatched.

YOU do know that the Forces of Evil are digging in to Avenatti's background and his cases and trying to dig up anything that will embarrass him or discredit him.

But honestly. Think about it. He represents a Porn Star. So his background is bound to have some dirt, and anyone who will accept the filth of Donal Trump will not indulge in that kind of hypocrisy without getting their asses kicked.

A lot is being made about Trump's claims being proven false when he told Comey he never spent the night in Moscow. I would safely bet the hookers who could prove the dossier is accurate about the bed pissing, are long gone. And they won't be coming back.

"Mother" has acquired 100 beautiful hand-painted plates from the Indiana World Organization of China Painters, to be placed in the Naval Observatory VP residence.

Wouldn't these plates become government property rather personal property? Not asking Pruitt and Carson.

President Trump just snarled at Jonathan Karl, “that’s a stupid question.”

Karl was asking if Trump was considering a pardon for Michael Cohen.

[quote] Wouldn't these plates become government property rather personal property?

Mother said that they were made "for the residence," so they will stay long after she and Pence are tossed from office.

The media pushing "pardon" questions is exactly what the media wants to happen. They want the drama and controversy for ratings.

Pardons should be unthinkable, and the media making it an easier option is shameful.

R152, if I'm not mistaken it's also a trap. A pardon can be considered part of an obstruction case. And by pardoning someone they can no longer refuse to testify or take the fifth. It is also true that ppardons only work for federal crimes not state of NY. So Trump would not achieve his goal of shutting Cohen's investigation down.

Cohens case IS a Federal case r153..............but a pardon does not mean he cant be forced to testify....and, he cant take the 5th if he accepts the pardon........

R154 Cohen has so much dirt.. I would be surprised there won't be some crimes in his closet for the state to prosecute.

[quote]I love the tweets where the Cheetolini claims Cohen won't flip. Doesn't he realize that is in itself an admission of guilt? Moron.

Exactly. He's hanging himself. I can't believe someone has not blocked him from twitter. He's admitting guilt every time he goes off on a tear.

hey, hey! Let Trump be Trump, ya know?

"Mother" is buying new home decor from religious Indiana outlets. She must know something is up.

Jeff Sessions just stated he is not recusing from the Cohen case......when coupled with him hiring Ezra Cohen-Watnick as his security adviser, could be trouble......Trump will have access to everything the case uncovers....if not from Sessions, then surely by Watnick (who was fired from the NSC and Trump forced Sessions to re-hire........

^^^^sorry....link^^^^^

Sessions was no doubt told by Trump not to recuse himself ....

I knew Cohen-Watick was a snot nosed 30 year old who had no business on the security counsil, and that he has major right wing tendencies, but I had no idea his wife used to work for THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT......FFS....its like they dont even fucking try to hide their collusion.

Trump apparently brushed dandruff off Macron’s shoulder during their press conference!

Trump is doing slow motion obstruction until he gets rid of all senior investigators that he cannot directly control. Congress does nothing, and has a contingent openly supporting it.

The public isn't protesting. What forefathers established and generations fought to save, is now crashing. Koch Bros and the like have done a complete takeover. Thanks to the idiotic populace supporting that Putin-loving bafoon.

Is "bafoon" a cross between "buffoon" and "baboon"?

R165, ^didn't want to insult baboons or unfortunate baffons Oh, dear.

"Bafoon"? I like it!

How about a Buboof?

The Buboof - bulbous goof? Bubonic oaf? Bullet proof? Is this Slovenian for 'idiot'?

What did Dr. Ronny Jackson do? I’ve heard over-prescribing opioids and drinking on the job (seems like a pretty major no-no for a doctor). Was he also somehow abusing people?

Like everyone else, anyone connected to Trump eventually ends up ruined.

R170 Ronny Jackson sucks... dicks.

Ronny Jackson is the cabinet member who should be played by Martin Short in the movie version. Martin Short would make a better Ronny Jackson than Ronny Jackson does. Martin Short would get through Congress.

In completely unrelated news, Dr Ronny Jackson suddenly remembered that Trump only weighs 175 lbs! Also Trump's 12 inch penis has grown 3 more inches since he took office. What amazing genes the man has!

You got that a bit wrong, R173. His IQ is 12, he weighs 275 lbs, and his penis and fingers are both 3 inches.

And those 3 inches apply to erect, not flaccid.

[quote]I’ve heard over-prescribing opioids

Just the man we need.

R170 I heard that there are allegations of him creating a hostile workplace. I also heard one of the allegations described as, "excessive drinking on the job..."

Funny, I would have assumed that ANY drinking on the job should have been a problem.

The level of corruption and criminality in this historic situation will be difficult to dissect for the 'base' as Seth points out. It's complicated for anyone who's followed this. Now we have potential crimes by a media person connected to the propaganda machine. So much of the reluctance of Congress to act is predicated on the potentially negative reactions of a supposed 'base' but I wonder how much of that support is really bottish? I would assume they'd know this by now, but after that embarrassing questioning of vile techie, Zuckerberg, I seriously doubt it.

The alleged drinking would explain that hysterically lame medical report on Spanky.

He acted really manic and “methy” during that White House briefing where he practically proclaimed Cheetolicia the fittest president in history.

Everyone considering taking a job from Trump should be first given a declaration to sign: “I understand that everything Donald Trump touches is destroyed. I accept this, and fully expect to be ruined shortly after Donald Trump speaks my name.”

I dont understand why nobody is talking about Sessions refusing to recuse from Cohens case....its a conflict of interest....and Cohen-Watnick is a russian plant. This is big news.....Sessions will be briefed on the case....and you know damn well he will share the info with Trump.

I still can't call that thing the President. Won't do it.

Sorry, R182. Yes, that's bigly news. Sessions is getting himself into hot water with this one and I'm sure Grandpa Spanks ordered him to remain in place.

My understanding is that technically the Cohen investigation is not part of Mueller's world or even the campaign investigation, so he has the right to horn in on it as USAG. However I would hope that Mueller et al are very much aware that Sessions is probably reporting every word of it back to his master. That is if he remembers any of it.

Jeff Sessions reads very queeny.

I do not recall that situation, R185. Whatever could you be referring to?

r185....part of Cohens case is regarding campaign finance.....that falls under Muellers investigation.....and Sessions isnt the real threat....its Cohen-Watnick who Trump forced him to rehire as his security adviser......hes also the douche bag behind the Nunes debacle when he did his midnight run..........

Ronny got very drunk and high and chased Sarah around the WH.

R188, would Sessions be required not to divulge information that directly pertains to criminal acts by the Potus to the Pustule?

[quote]Ronny got very drunk and high and chased Sarah around the WH.

I don't think they have enough liquor in the white house to make any man do that. Besides I get a real Queeny vibe from him.

I could be wrong, but Sessions taking this decision puts him on a collision course with Rosenstein and Mueller. Not good...for Sessions.

That's how I see it, R192. He could very well be walking into an obstruction charge.

[quote]Ignore the trolls. As long as they know they have an audience, they will continue to troll.

That used to work in days gone by.

Now, they are paid by the post, have a quota to meet and don't give a babushka if they are ignored or not.

I say engage, denigrate and humiliate.

Think about it.....Sessions was on the transition team.....he knows what Papadapoulos was doing, as well as Carter Page......he was also meeting with the Russians himself...and he lied about it repeatedly to Congress... he will now be briefed on the Cohen case, wich in all probability will uncover ties to the Russia matter.

Cohen-Watnick is now Sessions NSA meaning he gets briefed on everything too......per Trumps request he was re-hired (he was fired fron the WH)......... is an alt-right loon.....is 30 years old and was made head of intelligence on the National Security Counsil.....Was a mojor spreader of propaganda during the election....wants us to blow up Iran.....and was the person who fabricated the documents for Nunes when Nunes did his midnight run to the white house and declared a security threat for unmasking..........and his wife worked for the Russian Government..........

Now the question is,........ which one will be feeding Trump info about whats been uncovered in the Cohen case ?

It's not really that satisfying for everyone else who has to scroll through it though.

For the most part ignoring them does seem to work. When they stop getting responses they move on to a different thread.

Couldn't we Mary Poppins them with a Hillary thread?

Everyone keeps saying that Cohen will flip on Drumpf... Drumpf keeps saying he know Cohen won't....

Does he know something the rest of us don't? Like does he know Cohen should stay away from balconies and take all his meals from McDonald's?

Does this really have 23 parts??? I'm surprised it's already up to that. I recall the first couple of threads and then I wasn't on DL for a while..

I must say though I prefer something like this to continue rather than "Footballers in Love"

Once in a while I think of throwing a shiny object in front of the trolls, like a thread with a title, What do you think about Hillary Clinton? And then why'll there in there having a feeding frenzy we could post in peace.

R195 so we know what kind of monster this Cohen-Watnick is, we can assume that Mueller and the FBi's Counter Intel investogators know about him too. I doubt very seriously that anyone associated with Trump is getting the kind of national security briefings or updates on important investigations that an Obama WH was getting. These people aren't stupid.

It will be worth scrolling through when more indictments drop and the investigation concludes and the prosecution begins.

No Fake Concern Trolls at all today????

No Concern Troll Defenders today????????

Guess they got called out.

It's a piss poor tactic to begin with, R203. They run the risk of getting kicked because of the instinctual reaction to physically harm them so they have something legitimate to cry over.

r201.....You do realize that they ALL, including Mueller if Sessions wasnt recused, report to the AG....who is Sessions. Do you think its worth the risk ?......there is only so much they can hold back....or hold off.

I'm just glad so many more of us are now refusing to coddle the Fake Concern Trolls and are calling them out immediately. Their goal is to make us insecure and passive, so that Putin & Trump can steamroll over us.

"Not everyone who is worried is a Troll" they say? Then go cry to your cat but keep it off of here.

You seem really obsessed with concerned trolls.

[quote]"Not everyone who is worried is a Troll" they say? Then go cry to your cat but keep it off of here.

Please take your own advice. If you're so concerned about concerned trolls just keep it to yourself. You've now mentioned it a few times and there's been no need to.

R208, I was getting concerned about all this concerning nonsense. I also have a cat, but she'd kick me if I tried to be concerned with her.

The concern troll troll must be some kind of troll because virtually all of its posts are about concern troll trolling!

R207 & R208 are the same person pretending to be two different people complaining about me pointing out the Concern Troll Defenders.

Exposed!

R205 Mueller is my horse and I'm betting him in: ) I think Sessions has a lot on his plate running DOJ and there are only so many hours in a day. Mueller is a shrewd, experienced highly intelligent prosecutor and as the former head of the FBI I'm confident he knows what to put out there. In a way, I'd compare it to a real slow strip tease. Ya know?

Campaign finance violations are violations, not crimes. They don’t rise to a SDNY case.

Mark my words, they’ve got Cohen on human trafficking across state lines.

Did he actually transport our Stormy after arranging payments? Holy crolly, that's not small potatoes.

Uh, Concern Troll Troll... I never indicated that my posts were from different people.

But again, all your posts are about concern trolls.... so... you're EXPOSED!!!

Do you realize how silly you sound, R215? I'd be concerned, but fuck it, you stand alone.

Campaign Finance Law Violations

It is a federal crime to knowingly create and submit false campaign finance reports to the Federal Election Commission. Typically, the Government charges the filing of a false campaign disclosure form as being a violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1001, which is a general statute that prohibits filing materially false statements within the jurisdiction of any federal agency. Although 18 U.S.C. § 1001 is a charge that can be filed in connection with knowingly filing false campaign disclosure forms with the Federal Election Commission, the typical charge that is brought in these cases is an alleged violation of 2 U.S.C. § 441(a), the Federal Election Statute. This statute makes it a crime to knowingly and willfully accept and/or receive contributions in excess of the limits of the Election Act. If two or more persons conspire to violate this law, another prosecutor’s preferred charge is to allege a violation of 18 U.S.C. § 371, the general conspiracy statute.

I'm concerned about that, R216.

He's very careful about what he lets show, R212, so that's a great simile. It's been masterful. Isn't there still a sealed indictment from the first round?

This goes out to a few of you...

BASTA!

What's up with straight, macho-man Steve Miller? Never hear much about him any more? Did Mueller team interview him?

JAMAIS! R220, we cannot get enough! Besides, silly, the theme of the day is 'Everything French!'

He was at all of the State functions for Macron.......his beady face was right there in the middle of them.

Oh my!

R222... not until he says it is.

Yes, indeed, my favorite hot piece lawyer. Whatever you may think of this situation, he's worth every cent she's paying him.

And now, Ms Roberts weighs n.........

Hmmm, asked whether he was interviewed by Mueller, Roberts replied "No comment"

R217 is right knowingly that lying on any federal form - campaign finance disclosure, NIH grant application, IRS filing etc is a felony. However, it is generally only prosecuted as a felony if the underlying activy being lied about is also a felony.

So I stand by my human trafficking statement. That Jack Johnson pardon tweet wasn’t random.

Wasn't John Edwards tried for breaking a similar Campaign Finance law?

Someone is acting cowardly....

Why in the hell is everyone focusing on Ronny Jackson.....his confirmation was postponed, and he will likely withdraw......so who cares ?.....Still, nobody is taking about Sessions and Cohen-Watnick getting briefings on the Michael Cohen case.....that seems more relevant and newsworthy.

^^^Funny how that works, huh?

Its like with Peter Smith...the operative who "killed" himself.....everyone dropped the story after a few days without following up on the fact that when Smith met with the hacker, he had someone with him......and the fact that he claimed they set up an LLC....Bannon, Clovis, Conway, and a few others........It was funded by the RNC.....but why the LLC ?

Did Dr. Hiral win?

So Rachel mentions the Sessions issue in a quick blerb at the end of her show....and no mention of Cohen-Watnick........this is going to blow up in their faces....and theyll all act surprised and then theyll cover it........

Rachel will cover it. Just wait and see. She introduced it tonight, but she will definitely re visit it. She's the most thorough, intelligent, accurate journalist on TV right now.

The votes aren't in, yet, R235. Tipirneni should win because she's cool-looking and has a friendly smile. But the district favors her opponent Lesko, who looks like every Datalounger's image of the frau in billing feeding spitefully at the holiday buffet in a Christmas sweater. Let's hope the Dems can at least keep the Republican numbers down.

[quote]And now, Ms Roberts weighs n.........

Ugh, again with the “my husband this” and “my husband that”.

I get it, okay? You’re married, Robert, and I’m not. GAWD!

Sessions isn't that sharp and he is consumed by an ideological agenda that requires him to reverse all the racial progress and other safeguards the DOJ has instituted, so he is going to be conflicted between keeping up with these investigations like Cohen, etc. and doing his thing at DOJ. Plus he's old. Really old.

Knew it right off who it was. In NY it's known as the Leone Chin. An inherited trait from Ellis Island peasants that bred a little too closely, magnifying the undesirable trait. Rampant on Long Island's south Shore and New Jersey where incest is legal. Damn Leone/DellaPina chin.

R241, are you lost?

Now, an alledged drunk, abusive to subordinates, candyman?

And Trump is mad at Kelly Anne because her hubby criticizes him?

Perhaps it is getting pretty desperate, when the supply of on-hand pee pee girls for the great leader's special needs, is down to Rudy.

r244....That looks like Dame Edna.....the glasses give it away.....

[quote]Its like with Peter Smith...the operative who "killed" himself.....everyone dropped the story after a few days without following up on the fact that when Smith met with the hacker, he had someone with him......and the fact that he claimed they set up an LLC....Bannon, Clovis, Conway, and a few others........It was funded by the RNC.....but why the LLC ?

Never heard of this guy or this story.

r246.....here is the jist.....further research (google is your friend) will illuminate the situation....its very fishy...and the tentacles run deep......

This is why I love DL:

"who looks like every Datalounger's image of the frau in billing feeding spitefully at the holiday buffet in a Christmas sweater."

Cohen's taking the 5th. MSNBC reporting it now.

He's taking the 5th in the Stormy Daniels case.

A "fine family man" who can't answer because he may incriminate himself in a crime. This is our America.

Go ahead, Trump, pardon him and take away his 5th amendment protections! I wonder if either Trump or Cohen himself know enough law to figure that one out? I hope Trump pardons him without his knowledge and then Cohen either has to turn the pardon down or start talking. He's screwed.

Cohen pleads the 5th... Is it--gasp!--possible that this guy is guilty of something huge?! Tell me it ain't so!

May 2017.......

Can’t wait to read tomorrow mornings Toilet Tweets.

[quote]First of all, [Trump is] innocent. There isn't a person in the world who thinks he's guilty of collusion with the Russians,” Giuliani went on to tell WMUR.

I can personally vouch that there is at least one person in the world who thinks he’s guilty of collusion with the Russians.

Me, too, r256.

[quote] "There isn't a person in the world who thinks he's guilty of collusion with the Russians,”

In my best John McLaughlin bellow: "Wrong!!" I join R256: I too think he's guilty of collusion -- and a whole lot more. In fact, I'm stunned that this felon remains in the Oval Office because he should be behind bars.

I'll stop believing that multiple people in the Trump campaign were guilty when they stop lying, stop obstructing justice, and stop acting guilty!

Note, by the way, that aside from that Giuliani remark, all of the claims about Cohen by the Trump camp are that he will remain loyal and not incriminate Trump. Nobody is saying, "We don't care about Cohen because Trump is completely innocent." Why is that, I wonder?

Rudy needs to finish the Trans job; then hook-up with Caitlyn and Sophia on the trans adventure bus that goes across country in a new, reinvigorated "I am Cait".

R262 Cait and her new friend Julie.

Seems like Trump is using the usual dodge and postpone of wealth criminal defendants like OJ, but even worse since he has Presidential Seal to hide behind. A natural disaster this year and the next Great Recession will take him out by Fall

PS, Comey is doing a great job of pointing out the dangers of people blindly following Trump

As election day 2016 approached I was hopeful Clinton would win and I would never have to hear trump's name again. When he "won" illegitimately I despaired at having to hear about him all the time. Now his malevolent, disgusting presence is everywhere and I hate his guts even more and what he and his deplorable cohorts are doing to this country. It amazes me that that gang of cockroaches carry on like they deserve to be there, wrecking our institutions. They have no shame, blatantly wrecking what they can, gleefully knowing they will cause pain. The 2018 elections can't come soon enough. I never thought I'd see the day when a stupid hateful minority would steal power from those who would do good. Damn them all to hell.

Well said!, R266

What I find stunning is the number of people I know who really hate Trump. I mean they HATE him. It's not a dismissive "Oh, I hate him!" thing, it is deep and real. Everyone says the same thing. They didn't like Romney. They disagreed with McCain. They thought Bush was a terrible President. But none of them ever reached the level of genuine hate Trump generates. If Karma were real Trump would simple melt into a puddle and evaporate. He's 70. When he goes, and it may be in ten or 20 years or maybe he'll live to be 100. But when he goes, the world will breathe a sigh of relief and rejoice. All of us will be grateful for having survived this. Until then, we'll just have to live through it as best we can. For me that means resisting. It means marching and making phone calls and registering people to vote and doing all the things I wish I had done in the past. If I weren't actively engaged I' go crazy. He makes you crazy. I try to get together with friends more, I turn off the news and ration myself, I exercise, go to work and avoid political discussions unless I'm with the activists I volunteer with, and that's how I plan to survive this.

I'm not even an American R268 and I loathe him and would wager much of the world is in agreement. Beyond all the awful things he and his WH are doing I think it's that he doesn't have a single redeeming feature. At least Bush 2 seemed genial. They've announced that he is going to Britain in July but it won't be a state visit so no golden coach for the Great Pumpkin. Here's hoping the protests are massive.

What has happened is the normalizing of corruption and incompetence. The cabinet is beyond horrible. Why is Pruitt and Carson still around? People like DeVos are grossly unqualified.

The GOP Congress, beholden to the Koch Bros, are complicit or fear expressing any opposition whatsoever.

Why is Kushner still around without Security Clearance?

Drumpf has another nominee for VA Secretary but he won't name who it is, "yet."

The delusional fuck really does run everything like he's on Reality TV.

He is so fucking embarrassing. I found his performance with Macron to be a cringe-a-thon. At least Macron savaged him in Congress. I cannot stand when world leaders pretend like he is normal or laudable.

Just wait. Angela Merkel is coming into town next and Trump hates her. (Of course so does Putin.)

WH in-service training. GS 101.

R268 ["What I find stunning is the number of people I know who really hate Trump. I mean they HATE him. It's not a dismissive "Oh, I hate him!" thing, it is deep and real. Everyone says the same thing. They didn't like Romney. They disagreed with McCain. They thought Bush was a terrible President. But none of them ever reached the level of genuine hate Trump generates"]

Thank you for posting! I have been thinking the same thing. There were times I thought i hated George W. Bush, but nothing comes close to this. And like you said, I see it all over. Sometimes I wonder if there's been a similar situation in our history and maybe I just wasn't paying enough attention to notice. But I don't think so. I almost want to start a thread to ask.

But anyone else, was the hatred and divisiveness ever this bad? Did anything else ever come close??

[quote]But anyone else, was the hatred and divisiveness ever this bad? Did anything else ever come close??

I was reading about JFK's trip to Dallas, and the billboards, newspaper ads, and general comments were as bad as anything they ever tried against Obama. In fact, it was amazing how they keep recycling the same things over and over and over, some of them would be familiar to Abe Lincoln. JFK had the John Birch Society and Obama had the Tea Party and Koch Bros., but even though the names change, the message is always the same.

As far as the mood under Trump you just need to look at the McCarthy Era. You can hear Roy Cohn every time Trump opens his mouth,

I’ve never hated anyone in my life as much as I hate Trump. It’s a visceral sort of hate. I don’t think I even felt that way about Reagan or Bush Jr. At least those two hid their arrogance well.

[quote]JFK had the John Birch Society and Obama had the Tea Party and Koch Bros.

Not to mention that the John Birch Society at that time had a prominent member: Koch daddy.

He was born odious, repulsed people all his life, and he wallows in sticking it to people like a dog rolling in shit. He's a sick aberration who will spend is waning years as the sad, drooling fool that he is.

If he's not poisoned first, R280.

The federal prosecutors in NY have already used today’s Trump morning show statements to further their case against Cohen. Took just two hours.

Trump's claim that his lawyers should be allowed to review the documents seized from Michael Cohen before anyone else sees them has been shot down. Judge Wood appointed a Special Master (a former federal judge herself) to conduct the review. Stormy has moved to intervene in this case. Good times.

What possible motive would he have to do this to Cohen? Is there something even bigger that's about to come down or is he really that stupid or deranged? The Bieby (SP?) fall guy rumor is beginning to smell stronger.

I wasn't talking about the traditional "hate groups" we have always had in the good old USA. I was referring to average ordinary people who are otherwise pretty normal. This is something I have never experienced before and it is widespread. The distinction I was trying to make earlier was that these aren't fringe types like John Birchers or KKK, etc. These are friends and neighbors and people you see at the supermarket. Maybe I'm not being as clear as Id like to be, but what I was trying to say is this is very different.

[quote] I was referring to average ordinary people who are otherwise pretty normal.

What do you consider otherwise pretty normal? Functioning addicts? There are certain fucked up opinions and behavior that outweigh "otherwise pretty normal". Like, what's next "boys will be boys?" "that's how it has always been", etc?

Are Deplorables, KKKers, modern day Nazis otherwise pretty normal?

Beware of blanket statements, such as 'this is widespread' - they can easily be interpreted as an attempt to subtly influence someone into believing their neighbors are dangerous. I know my neighbors and this is not widespread. If you use this statement, be prepared to back it up with facts from reliable sources. Yes, sometimes people who have been conned become dangerously delusional. I believe this is why Mueller is teasing this out and carefully laying the groundwork for a solid conviction.

Until then, it's dangerous for us to turn on each other. This is what they want. History has proven, time and again, that stirring up rebellion and violence is opportunity for repression. Don't fall for it. There are not Trump voters out there wanting to kill you.

[quote] Beware of blanket statements, such as 'this is widespread' - they can easily be interpreted as an attempt to subtly influence someone into believing their neighbors are dangerous. I know my neighbors and this is not widespread. If you use this statement, be prepared to back it up with facts from reliable sources.

You don't have to back up your statements if all you want to do is fearmongering. Spread the seed of mistrust (your neighbor did this or that! Don't believe me? Watch him with that in mind what I just said! You'll see!). Provide bogus "proof" from sites that suit your agenda (because they've been set up by like minded folks).

That's why I said 'reliable' R288. I read it the same way you did, but I'm trying not to engage or give too much attention. Other than blocking, which is only for my benefit. Not all of the folks visiting the DL these days have caught on to the games being played here and how they've evolved.

r289, you should give those newbies more credit. Russian bots and trolls aren't just a DL thing. Anyone with an internet connection is aware of them. And since this is an anonymous message board I highly doubt anone would trust any anonymous poster to be a die hard Democrat but can't simply trust Hillary Clinton, because of her emails scandal and shit like that.

I should. Never hurts to get a reminder, either way. I forget how quick the young are these days.

Look I don't see what's so tricky or sinister about saying that a lot of people really hate Trump, and the way they discuss the way they feel, or even say "I hate him" is a lot different from the way I've ever heard it expressed about other politicians or presidents. I'm saying there is a whole lot of negative karma out here for Trump. That's all.

Ok, I get what you're trying to say R292. I think in the initial first months after the election, during all the rallies he held, that we were all confused about why the 'winners' were still so angry. I saw a lot of it, too, but it's calmed down. People can't sustain that level of anger unless it's really grounded in truth. There is a lot of hatred for him for doing this. I lost some friends. He's a disgrace and has embarrassed himself and this country. What I'm also seeing is more smiles with the good weather, people wanting to just live and not have this fuckery, and new resolve to have responsible leadership that reflects the will of the people.

Sorry for going full on New Age, but pushing against things like war, drugs, hate, Kim Kardashian doesn't give you less war, drugs, hate, Kim Kardashian. It gives you more. More wars, more drugs, more hate, more Kardashians, more Trump. People who hate Trump with a passion let Donald Trump live rent free in their mind. Focus on the solution (getting Trump out of the White House) instead of the problem (OMG! What has he done now? I need to know all the details to get really mad and outraged! Me being mad and outraged will make Trump go away for sure!).

Well, at least Lindsey Graham noted Melania's birthday.

The replies are mean I tell you. Just mean!

Wow, those replies. Ha! It’s like the whole world has turned into DL.

Ah understand being misunderstood, and being a lady, I will address this modern day Belle Watling with kindness.

I have to stick up for the person who said things are different now. There is much more of a mob mentality now that Trump et al and bots are fostering. I noticed it during the campaign when young people were hating on Hillary based on social media. Now it’s fashionable to say Democrats should be killed, etc. it is a crazy period, the most unstable I can remember

"Senate Judiciary Committee Advances Bill To Protect Special Counsel Mueller"

[quote]In a 14-7 vote Thursday, the Senate Judiciary Committee approved of legislation that would protect Special Counsel Robert Mueller from being improperly fired by President Donald Trump.

[quote]Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Thom Tillis (R-NC), the GOP sponsors of the legislation, voted for advancing it, as did Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-IA). All Democrats on the committee voted in favor of the bill, which was also sponsored by Sens. Chris Coons (D-DE) and Cory Booker (D-NJ). Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ), who is not seeking re-election, also voted for the bill.

[quote]Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) said last week that he didn’t think such legislation was necessary and thus did not plan on bringing it up for full vote on the Senate floor.

[quote]Grassley said at Thursday’s committee meeting that, even though he had constitutional concerns about the bill, it still should be considered by the full Senate.

...

[quote]The legislation codifies existing Justice Department regulations limiting the reasons a special counsel can be removed. It also gives a terminated special counsel the opportunity to challenge his or her firing in court.

I think Trump's pea sized brain has finally absorbed the fact that wanting to be POTUS was a gargantuan mistake.

I genuinely think Trump's insane Fox & Friends ramble helped put that bill through committee.

Wow, the comments on Lindsay Graham’s twitter feed are priceless.

Replying to @LindseyGrahamSC and @FLOTUS

I would, Lindsey, but I don't know how to say "Okay, I'll pay double for a half-&-half" in Russian. #FirstRussianProstituteOfTheUnitedStates

Perhaps Miss Lindsey needs to refrain from her nips of gin and stay off Twitter sometimes.

One of the replies in that twitter thread is, "Miss Lindsey you continue to be clueless." That's [bold]got[/bold] to be one of you DL bitches!

I have a question. Let’s say one of the folks who have flipped and are cooperating with the Mueller probe happens to drop dead. You know, heart attack, stroke, piano wire........

Can their information/testimony/written or videoed story still be used against Dear Leader? Could the defendants lawyers object because there would be no opportunity for cross examination?

Oh for FFS!

R305, if you are the cause of the witness’s “unavailability”, then a statement by a deceased person is admissible. It also might be admissible as a statement against the witness’s own interest. But normally, yes, there needs to have been the opportunity to cross-examine.

From Trumps continuous phone ins to Fox, you get the impression that no attorney has ever sat him down and explained the concept of "admission against self interest".

Trump's arrogance will turn the key to his jail cell.

r308 and you know he will pretend it's just one of his hotels with some, he admits, questionable service.

I watched a little of Tapper, a little of Nicole and very little of Ari, and Wolf yesterday. All they seemed to want to talk about is the Fox interview, Stormy, and Michael Cohen. Oh, and Bill Cosby and Lil Kim. So I actually read a book and listened to some music.

The entire of Trump' presidency is wearing on us and if things keep up at this pace it will become difficult to feel outrage. It is saturating to the point of making us numb. That is a very bad sign.

Penelope Cruz, Ann-Margaret, and Jay Leno, are having birthdays today. Will Miss Lindsey be giving them twitter shout-outs?

Corey Booker's birthday, Miss Lindz' Senate colleage.

Some humor aside, Graham is doing more fawning over Trump, well exceeding that compared to any other Senator. It appears to happen daily, and in the contest of time, it has its contradictions.

Trump relishes being praised, and Lindsey provides much of it. The question is the motive.

The Nobel Peace Prize for Trump over North Korea? That is way premature, at best, to even imply such.

^context (not contest).

[quote]The entire of Trump' presidency is wearing on us and if things keep up at this pace it will become difficult to feel outrage. It is saturating to the point of making us numb. That is a very bad sign.

You underestimate the extent to which opposition gets to Trump. If it did not, he wouldn't have indulged in that thirty minute rant to 'Fox & Friends.' What 'President' who was above the battle and assured in his work would bark so crazily as that? If all criticism of him is 'fake', why worry? But worry he plainly does - so saturation goes both ways. Keep the faith, and support all and every forensic criticism, which he deserves in full.

I'm with r316!

Trump also hates Comey. That may have a lot to do with the rant. He is livid that Comey is writing a book, then out here promoting it and being treated like some cool guy and doing town halls and getting applause. His book is also selling really well. Trump also knows that it was his own firing of Comey and Comey's memos and leaks that prompted the appointment of Mueller. His fault. So projecting it onto Comey is standard operating procedure.

This was the drinks menu at the party for Comey’s book

Trump also probably knew the economic news coming down the pike, including the fact that Amazon (owned by his arch-enemy) was bucking the trend and going through the roof.

And in other news Christians find Jesus terrific.

Trump's favorite black people, Diamond and Silk, get dragged at Congressional hearing over alleged social media censorship of conservatives

And based on the reporting of yesterday's hearing, Scott Pruitt will get away with all his crap.

[quote]The Nobel Peace Prize for Trump over North Korea? That is way premature, at best, to even imply such.

The Nobel Peace Prize is pretty much worthless considering they gave Obama one before he went on to be the only President in US history to wage eight years of uninterrupted war. Perhaps the Nobel Committee were just happy to know that Obama would do nothing to interrupt the heroin trade from Afghanistan to the USA

Seek help, R325; you need it.

Back on topic:

[quote]WASHINGTON (AP) — Judge tosses ex-Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort’s civil case challenging special counsel’s authority in Russia probe.

Oh LOOK, yet another lie about Russian connections. Why so many lies if nothing illegal or inappropriate was happening???

"MOSCOW — The Russian lawyer who met with Trump campaign officials in Trump Tower in June 2016 on the premise that she would deliver damaging information about Hillary Clinton has long insisted she is a private attorney, not a Kremlin operative trying to meddle in the presidential election.

But newly released emails show that in at least one instance two years earlier, the lawyer, Natalia V. Veselnitskaya, worked hand in glove with Russia’s chief legal office to thwart a Justice Department civil fraud case against a well-connected Russian firm.

Ms. Veselnitskaya also appears to have recanted her earlier denials of Russian government ties. During an interview to be broadcast Friday by NBC News, she acknowledged that she was not merely a private lawyer but a source of information for a top Kremlin official, Yuri Y. Chaika, the prosecutor general.

“I am a lawyer, and I am an informant,” she said. “Since 2013, I have been actively communicating with the office of the Russian prosecutor general.”

The previously undisclosed details about Ms. Veselnitskaya rekindle questions about who she was representing when she met with Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, Paul Manafort and others at Trump Tower in Manhattan during the campaign. The meeting, one focus of the special counsel investigation into Russia’s election interference, was organized after an intermediary promised that Ms. Veselnitskaya would deliver documents that would incriminate Mrs. Clinton."

And, R327, I find it hilarious that the Kremlin knew the predilections of the Trump family well enough to send a semi-attractive female lawyer to that meeting. I bet she was told to dress extra slutty in order to fully get their attention.

Is she sparrow?

Trump Junior's "I love it" Email pretty much indicates collusion. His smugness surpasses the old man.

"Wear something low-cut, Natalia. No panties. And here’s a photograph of Barack Obama. If Mr. Trump seems uninterested, put this picture on the floor and pee on it. This always works."

Trump’s range of emotions:

He’s “honored”.

He feels something is a “disgrace”.

That’s about 98% of it.

Seth Abramson just Tweeted this.

Does anyone really think a phony report put out by the Republicans will save Trump? It’s extremely embarrassing how he is stalling for time, although Fix News keeps putting out lies to his base

No one , including the people who prepared it think that "committee report" means a damned thing. It has no force in law, and it is a travesty diminishing the role of Congress as far as oversight and accountability.

Ryan is firing chaplains for preaching about equality, but lets Nunes continue his bullshit. Ryan can't leave fast enough! Fucker.

R335 the report is all about pre-lubing the Deplorables so that one Mueller presents the goods they can just scream that it's fake and lies and a witch hunt.

R334 "although Fix News keeps putting out lies to his base"

Fix News? Was that a typo or deliberate? It's just that it's so brilliant - and obvious - I can't believe it never occurred to me. As in, "I heard about Trump's many accomplishments as POTUS on FIX News". It's better than Faux News!

Thanks for sharing. :)

New article from Buzzfeed about the communications between the Agalarovs and the Trumps. Love this bit:

[quote]After the short meeting, according to the Democrats’ report, the group — excluding Trump Jr., Manafort, and Kushner — went to the bar in Trump Tower. While there, Kaveladze took a call from Aras Agalarov. The next day, Aras had “an expensive painting” delivered to Trump. The Democrats’ report cites an email — subject line, “Birthday gift for Mr. Trump” — from Goldstone to Rhona Graff, Trump’s longtime assistant. A week later, the Democrats’ report states, Trump sent Aras a thank-you note. “There are few things better than receiving a sensational gift from someone you admire – and that’s what I’ve received from you,” Trump wrote to Aras. “You made my birthday a truly special event by your thoughtfulness – not to mention your remarkable talent. I’m rarely at a loss for words, but right now I can only say how much I appreciate your friendship and to thank you for this fantastic gift. This is one birthday that I will always remember.”

And yet Dump couldn't be bothered to get anything for Melania's birthday yesterday. I doubt he even gave her the "beautiful card" and flowers.

By the way, has anyone heard anything about Rhona lately?

I wouldn't be surprised if Rhona Graff gets indicted next. Cohen and Graff seem like the obvious choices.

If he had a brain cell in his head, he would have said “I got her something personal” and ended the questions and looked like a hero.

....or he could have said he cant say because its a surprise.

" I doubt he even gave her the "beautiful card" and flowers."

He got her a GREEN card, didn't he?

R338 Faux News was the original Fake News. See how they turned the table on the fractured left (thanks to Bernie)? The audacity to lie and smear as hard as they can got them in the WH.

[quote]He got her a GREEN card, didn't he?

I bet Melania's heard that yelled at her thousands of times, probably even on her birthday.

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Stealing "Fix News." Thanks R334 (even if it was a typo).

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Who the fuck cares if Trump got Melania a birthday gift?

Melania made her bed with Trump a long time ago; she doesn't deserve any sympathy.

R332:

Something’s either “tremendous” or it’s a “disaster.”

And if he has to come up with another less hyperbolic word, he’ll add “very, very” for good measure.

[quote]Who the fuck cares if Trump got Melania a birthday gift? Melania made her bed with Trump a long time ago; she doesn't deserve any sympathy.

It's not about sympathy for Melania, it's that our "President" is a cheap, narcissistic bastard who can't even pretend like he cares about his wife. He could have an assistant pick up some piece of jewelry or something since he's soooo "busy," but he doesn't even give enough of a shit for that. He could spend hours ranting about Comey and Crooked Hilary (and he would have), though.

Isn’t the Trump Tower in Azerbaijan the one that could potentially get Ivanka in tons of trouble?

R352, the Ivanka one is in Vancouver. The Azerbaijan Tower was the product of Trump working with corrupt Iranians. You really need a chart to keep up.

Damn that is one fugly building^^

r353....Azerbaijan has Ivankas fingerprints all over it too.....she has videos posted online shilling for the place showing construction in the background from her hotel room there.

What about this freakishly weird new city of Astana, Khazakstan?

Is there a Trump Tower there? What is Trump up to in Astana?

Why did they build a replica of the White House with a blue dome on top for their "Presidential Palace?"

R356 has discovered something!!! So Trump is going to pretend to go on a trip and he will set himself up in Kazakhstan in Astana and attempt to govern from the "Blue White House."

What is up with the Blue White House in Astana, R357? Who built that bizarre mash-up?

The Trump/Azerbaijan scandal was written up in Vanity Fair. It's online and well worth reading for the complete boondoggle that it is. I don't know if it ever opened.

I lost my place in this thread so I don't know if this has been mentioned yet: nominal Chief of Staff Kelly being touted for head of the VA. Would be an interesting choice. For Trump, it gets him out of the WH. With a military man as the head means Kelly wouldn't go all in with privatizing or cutting back services. He'd probably get a quick ok from Congress. Make sense? btw, Trump would not replace him as CoS. He prefers a scrum. Moron.

This is an excellent article. Definitely worth reading. I disagree with some of the viewpoints expressed by some of the people they interviewed in Russia, but nevertheless the article clearly shows how determined and dedicated the Russians are to the whole cyber security/cyber warfare thing. It's scary.

As an aside I will say that this entire Mueller/Russia/ corruption thing is so immense, that there are only a few things you need to read to stay on top of what's going on politically in our government and in the Mueller investigations. The Atlantic and the New Yorker have excellent indepth articles. and their websites offer daily updates worth checking out. The Raw Story website and the Daily Beast are excellent. Axios is excellent and using Twitter for your news feeds saves tons of time. I follow CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NPR, and Daily Kos as well as several individual journalists and it saves tons of time. If I See something I want to read more I just click. I also subscribe to the Washington Post digital. Best thing I've ever done. the NYT is shit.

The US House Intelligence Committee has released a redacted declassified version of a report on alleged Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election, which officially clears President Trump of any collusion.

Wow that makes crazy absolute sense r358. I used to travel to Kazakhstan for work and there is NOTHING there that would support a luxury hotel. Or have I become a conspiracy theorist?

A luxury hotel, R362? That is an entire luxury city, sprung up in the middle of nowhere. It has its own White House. What the hell is the city of Astana for and who on earth built it?

That whole city looks like a Donald Trump wet dream.

Is goink to be luxury resort. Gambling, vimmen, and spas. Only rich pipples vill liff here. Is ging to be Las Vegas only much bigger!!!!! A who country of Las Vega!!!! You vill like it!!!!

The economy simply will not support it. It’s incredilby poor... makes me REALLY wonder what’s up.

[quote]A who country of Las Vega!!!! You vill like it!!!!

Las Vegas was built by money-laundering mobsters. Who built Astana and who will live in its Blue domed Presidential Palace that is a replica of the US White House?

What is the Trump connection to Astana? Can we impeach him for it?

Azerbaijan = oil and its attendant price fluctuations. The first issue with the Trump hotel there was its terrible location. But IIRC, he wasn't *building* it, he was just responsible for the decorating (you know, the fun part) and the management.

[quote]You really need a chart to keep up.

We're on that.

I hope you are aware that the Mueller probe is winding down and that no proof of collusion between Trump and the Russians is forthcoming. Everyone in DC knows the game is over. Eventually the posters here catch up with reality.

Can you imagine the "evidence board" in Mueller's office? It must extend into the offices on either side of him and require an entire JoAnn Fabric's warehouse full of yarn.

Either that, or it’s a picture of Vladimir Putin over a picture of Donald Trump.

Bwahahaha!

Bullshit r370

If that’s the best you can troll, why do you even bother?

Great thread from Seth!

Guys, r370/r374 is totally right. When I told a bunch of Russians that I wanted dirt on Hillary Clinton, that in no way suggests that I was colluding with Russians to get dirt on Hillary Clinton. How could you possibly interpret it that way? You’re really reaching, guys. Also, my hair looks really good.

If R370 is right, it's odd that Trump has for months been on the verge of firing Mueller, seeking every possible angle, being dissuaded by saner counsel.

Why fire the man who will, in time, report your total innocence from all nefarious activity? Which you have always and repeatedly asserted? But of course, making sense is not what Trump ever does.

I feel bad for Senator Tester. He tried to do the right thing in regards to the frat boy doctor not being nominated for VA. And now Trump has him in his sites. Today Trump demanded he resign from the Senate! Some of these people who made these accusations need to put their names to it or he is going to be toast.

Actually, even though Montana voted for Trump, I think this will help Tester. They'll defend their own against the orange piece of shit. Montana is filled with the "self-made man" mythologist Repugs, not the racist Southern inbred Repugs.

Tester needs to stand firm. Fuck Trump and his attacks. Put on ignore. Shit if Pruitt is still head of the EPA, Tester isn't going anywhere.

That Seth Abramson tweet is way long. I read quite a bit of it but still seems the Logan Act violation is minor. It needs to be bigger than that. No doubt it is.

R377, Testor did do the right thing, but politicians usually don’t stick their necks out just on principle. He must know that Trump’s attacks won’t hurt him, and may actually help him.

I think it will help Tester.

Trump is starting to turn to poison to all but the most stupid deplorable. (Or rich grifter).

[quote]it's odd that Trump has for months been on the verge of firing Mueller, seeking every possible angle, being dissuaded by saner counsel.

Trump knows he did not collude with Russia. Trump has not laid a finger on Mueller nor will he. Trump is playing a waiting game. Mueller will eventually have to shut up because he can not put up anything of substance. The Russian Collusion story is just what CNN's Van Jones said it was a year ago: a nothingburger.

Fuck off, Putin-rimming troll at R381. We have minds and we can think critically. We do not fall for propaganda: whataboutism and a dozen other polished techniques. That is your flaw : in the midst of the dissemination of Kremlin propaganda, you have underestimated democracy and the lessons it taught many of us. We will defend Mueller’s investigations. We will crush the traitorous rapist who cheated his way to a presidency. Fuck you.

I meant R382, not R381, obviously.

Is Tester up for re-election in the midterms this year? Could be his way to get some votes out of that.

Trump is NOT the king to demand a resignation of an ELECTED official from Montana. Only the PEOPLE of MONTANA may do this, and it's called a repeal. This is why he must go. He has repeatedly refused to uphold the Constitution, as vowed on his inauguration. He should be impeached on these repeated attempts to undermine our sacred Bill of Rights. Someone should remind him, in a nice French accent, that kings are guillotined.

[quote] that forced this fraud of an investigation.

Ha! A complex international investigation that has seen -- in under a year -- 22 indictments and gotten Flynn, Gates, and Alex van der Zwaan, the Dutch lawyer, to plead guilty. Yes, such a fraud. How is that those three defendants haven't challenged their convictions?

[quote] "Winding down"

Ridiculous. Manafort's trial hasn't even taken place yet. There is not one scintilla of credible evidence to back up the absurd assertion that the investigation is "winding down."

[quote] Is Tester up for re-election in the midterms this year?

Yes. He won his first election in 2006 during the blue wave in George W. Bu$h's second mid-term election. He won his second election in 2012, which was also Obama's reelection. He should be fine. His previous elections were close, but he is a skilled politician. I know him personally and he is a no-bullshit kind of guy. He's down-to-earth and he relates well to the voters in Montana.

I think Trump's anger about this this will only help Tester. Most people in the middle see Trump for the insane moron he is. And they realize it was his capricious management style that brought this about. He picked someone close to him without letting the vetters take a serious look at Dr. Candyman. He threw the doc into the middle of the ring and let everyone else do the work for him -- the lazy bastard.

Trump is election poison. That's a fact, even in the alternative universe of deplorable land.

He needs to let the doctor's appointment go. There were too many people coming forward and he has no authority to take it further. The man resigned and nothing is going to change that. Sore loser.

He's at a rally tonight trying to build momentum for trying to bury this investigation on the word of a compromised, biased Congress. I'm on the Mueller rapid response alert list for the protests that will follow if he dares. I hope everyone is ready.

Interesting....and suspicious......Where is the missing professor ?

I'm on it, r391.......

Tester is up for re-election this November. And before this happened, he was polling quite a bit behind. Hopefully, this does get some Montanan voters ticked off. There are a lot of vets in Montana. I've spent some time on some newspaper sites there and the vets have spoken up for Tester.

The goose is cooked. Treason, obstruction, campaign finance violations ... if it was anyone else, he or she would be in jail. The Republicans are all going to hang come November

r394 I would like to hear a Sarah/Kellyanne duet of the Republican version of Strange Fruit come November.

No one believes the Nunes investigation has a shred of credibility. Based on what we've seen so far, I believe Mueller's statement will read something like this:

The evidence will show that the President and key members of his election campaign staff, including members of his family, coordinated efforts with citizens of a foreign government to defraud the US elections by manipulating vote counts in key electoral districts. These efforts were augmented by carefully timed media 'drops' in key social media outlets in the weeks and months leading up to the election. This campaign of disinformation was perpetrated by CA, amongst others, and aided and abetted by top level executive staff at Facebook, and other social media outlets within their control.

North and South Korea just took away a main distraction. This week coming up will include some major drama and this Michigan MAGA meeting is the public face of their opening act. Throwing Cohen under the bus to distance himself is the other recent strategy. I'll be interested in hearing if he has something to say about that or the Fox debacle.

Correspondents Dinner is tonight. CSPAN usually covers it. Without Trump there, I don't think main stream media will.

It will be a LOT meaner with him absent. It will have MORE coverage.

Both Trumps rally and The Correspondents dinner will be on CSPAN tonight.....Trump at 7pm and the dinner at 9:30pm

CNN is covering the dinner at 7....MSNBC covers it at 9

CNN was interviewing Kellyanne and Sarah on the carpet; then Stormy's lawyer, Michael Avenetti walked up and stood next to them for the camera.

He is a hoot and a publicity hound.

God I love Michael Avenatti.

A hot hoot. And I'm a lesbian.

[quote] CNN was interviewing Kellyanne and Sarah on the carpet; then Stormy's lawyer, Michael Avenetti walked up and stood next to them for the camera.

Here it is, and yeah, it's hilarious.

The important bit starts at about the 3:50 mark in case YouTuve doesn't auto-start there.

This thread from Seth Abramson is terrifying.......and its taken from the House MINORITY report to counter the GOP report......its long, but well worth the read......and if this is what the Dems have uncovered, I shudder to think what Muellers uncovered.......we still have firing squads for treason, dont we ?

R406 Knowing he's a traitor and doing something about it are two different things. The GOP has already decided to stick with Trump till the bitter end because they know deplorable Americans can be manipulated. Only a November Dem victory can really break through the GOP obfuscation/obstruction strategy.

They pretty much say the GOP is complicit.....and indebted to Russia.......I wonder how many will go down ?

Mr. Koch has not told Republicans to let go of Trump. Nothing changes with them until their sugar daddy says so.

R409 And he won't, since the deplorables are still mesmerized by their big bully Trump. I don't have as much hope on Mueller as others since even as a good guy with the law behind, he is actually at a disadvantage with a big bully empowered by a stupid mob and a team of amoral enablers. Only with a Dem Congress on his side, would Mueller be able to duke it out with Trump.

R394 and others, we need to be really smart and really alert if we want to win in November. Take nothing for granted. aside from voter suppression and unaddressed gerrymandering issues, there are also serious, vigorous efforts going on right now to split the State Democratic Parties and divide the Dems at the state level and some of these efforts are gaining ground. The Extreme Left wants to primary more moderate (but still Liberal/Progressive) Dems and make sure the weaker more vulnerable candidate faces the GOP incumbent or the GOP new comer. Some of the Republican candidates out here are really scary. They are Neo Nazis to their core. We can't let ourselves be duped into thinking a divided party can win in November. And we need the moderates and independents to show up and vote. If thinks are too rancorous they will not show up. The Republicans are prepared to lose a few seats in the House, but they are doing a lot of behind the scenes mischief (with help from their Russian friends) to try to hold on to their majority. They are going to fuck with the elections again, but they want it to look realistic, so they will accept a few losses.

Richard Painter is running for Al Franken's Senate seat.

Well how old is Painter? Tell you one thing, if he wins he will be one Republican who is a sure vote for Impeachment.

^ He's running as a Democrat.

Is this the Repug's new strategy? Are they going to "switch parties" and split votes so the Repug in the race wins?

No, actually, the Republicans' strategy is the same as its always been divide and conquer. Lie, distort, smear the Democratic candidates, and spread fear about other exploiting the "illegals" and the crime and do not forget the 2nd Amendment stuff." And spread dissatisfaction. Don't forget to smear Hillary and Obama. Use voter suppression and gerrymandering, and flood the airwaves and social media with hate tactics.

I love how they're all trying to shame the 'snowflakes' into disavowing Michele's take down of Huckabee-Sanders. They claim she body shamed her by talking about eye shadow while they keep blabbing about something that never happened. She called her a liar. It's truth, get over it. Meanwhile, Trump stands in front of a crowd and dares to speak for US by saying we hate them. We don't hate them, we pity them. This is a classic case of 'you can dish it but you can't take it.' If he has nothing to fear from an investigation, why implore them to vote for Repugs so the Dems won't impeach? The pandering gets lower and lower.

They need to take their own advice. What happened to "fuck your feelings"?

I can't hate those people. They're too ridiculous.

I'll hate them enough for both of us.

Trixon

I don't hate the deplorables so much as I'm afraid of them. That kind of fear, rage and hatred can lead usually affable people to do unbelievably evil things. I'm afraid of what they'll do with the power they have, even if it's temporary.

The deplorables are far outnumbered, and they know it. Their time is almost up. This is their last hurrah.

r418, that's a lovely picture of Dan and Dee Plorable.

You know, another thing that simply infuriates me is this. We recently learned that Mike Pompeo has ties to China. Business ties. He lied about this at his Congressional hearings and he failed to disclose it. There are other cabinet members and appointees who have lied or failed to disclose shit like this. They we have Trump himself and his business ties and his family's business interests and deal making, all of the obvious conflicts of interest, and a lot of this stuff is ILLEGAL. And yet this Congress, this Senate approves and ignores all of it. All of it. So many instances of laws being broken and lying to Congress is also illegal. and who the fuck is going to charge them and stop them? Our government has literally turned its back on the Law. They are brazen about it. I find it outrageous that for years the GOP abetted by the media, promoted faux outrage over the smallest most insignificant shit the Dems did, and yet no one says shit or even makes a big deal out of this. We have normalized a lot in this country in a very short time. That ought to scare everyone.

[quote] We have normalized a lot in this country in a very short time.

And, let's be perfectly clear: they've normalized a lot FOR Rethuglicans. Once a Democrat is returned to office it will be business as usual. Every slip -- hell, even the hint of a slip -- and the Repukes will happily turn on the outrage machine full blast. Holding a coffee cup while saluting or wearing a tan suit to a press conference will once again return as the worst assaults on our democracy. And, if anyone tries to call them out on their hypocrisy, they will do what they always do -- brush it off without a hint of shame. Because, they have no shame.

Miss Lindzey is at it again today. She's calling Comey untruthful, calling for the DOJ to be investigated for corruption, and insists Hillary (for the upteenth time) and Loretta Lynch be investigated with special prosecutors and grilled before Conggress.

What dirt someone holds on Miss "L" must be juicy. Where are her "Emails"? Oh, Putty must have them.

[quote] grilled before Congress.

Again? Christ, let it go Linds.

James is not gentleman caller material. Hillary and Loretta are not proper ladies.

This is really great.

Here’s the thing I wonder about. Wouldn’t it be better if Republicans turned on Trump? It would prevent a blue wave in November if they fielded a bunch of no-trumpers. But they’re sticking by Trump. Why? They know something we don’t between now & November.

We must keep a very close eye on them and take nothing for granted.

There should be a national movement for optical scan paper ballots.

I see that abortion story got swept under the rug. Dems need to highlight hypocrisy at every chance.

Missing tree?

I'm curious about that R433.

They put the tree in quarantine and it will be replanted once they’re sure it hasn’t brought any parasites into the country (insert Trump Jr joke here).

Really, that’s what happened

Im shocked, SHOCKED, that nobody is talking about Trumps claims that Putin is setting him up with the Veselnitskya story because hes so tough on Russia.

MSNBC reporting that John Kelly called Trump an "idiot". At least he didn’t call him a "fucking idiot".

R413, I’ve seen Painter many times on MSNBC. He talks out of the side of his mouth like an Edward G. Robinson gangster from a 1940s movie. It cracks me up every time.

In November, the Republicans are going to

Claim democrats put illegal immigrants over people born and raised here. Untrue, but effective among many people.

Claim democrats hate the middle class because democrats belittled the money the tax cuts would give to the middle class. This will be effective among anyone who got $2 or more back in their paychecks because “it means democrats are lying. We didn’t get hurt by tax cuts.” You can tell them 10,000 times how much money the rich got back and they don’t care. They’re stupid and all expect to win lotto one day.

The Republican are masters st doing shit that harms America and turning it round to look like democrats did it. They’re the ones who wanted illegal immigrants here to keep wages down and destroy unions. They wouldn’t pass laws severely punishing the employers of illegal workers.

[R438] He talks out of the side of his mouth because he has bells palsy.

^^^ Oh. OK.

Awkward.

I guess the abortion is technically not part of this investigation so I will let it go.

But between the abortion story and the teenager who came forward in 2016, it’s like the media just won’t ‘go there.’

[quote]Wouldn’t it be better if Republicans turned on Trump? It would prevent a blue wave in November if they fielded a bunch of no-trumpers. But they’re sticking by Trump. Why? They know something we don’t between now & November.

Not really. The reason they're sticking with Trump is because their base is. Their base loves Trump more than they love Congressional Republicans. If any Congressional Republicans went all in against Trump, they would be primaried and there is a reasonably good chance that they would lose. And the resulting internecine battle in the primary would likely piss off enough Republican voters that it would enhance the Democratic candidate's chances in that race.

There is a reason that Senators Flake and Corker and not running for re-election. They simply do not have a choice, particularly Flake.

It's one of the reasons that Trump's numbers have gone up by a point or two. It's not really because he's any more popular with anyone else; it's that the Republican base, particularly the evangelicals, have completely solidified behind him. For better or worse, the Republican Party is Trump's now.

Typo: "and not running" -> "are not running"

Well they should just wait until after all the primaries.

That won't work, either, R446, because that will just depress that same Trump-loving base and cause many to stay home "to teach them a lesson," which will again just help Democrats. They really are stuck, which is one of the reasons they've had a record-breaking number of retirements this year.

R443, I don't think the abortion story is dead, and while it might not fall under Muller's purview, surely someone will be able to follow the money and figure out who got paid by whom, and for what.

Maybe someone needs to point Michael Avenatti in that direction.

No need. Michael Avenatti was the one who pointed us in that direction.

You would think the GOP would have thrown a shit ton of money at both Stormy and Avenatti to go away. But the fact they didn't makes me believe that the GOP knows that there are more women out there who could make the same legit accusations and expect the same deal.

House conservatives have drafted articles of impeachment against Rosenstein as a "last resort."

[quote]Conservative House allies of President Trump have drafted articles of impeachment against Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein, who oversees the ongoing special counsel probe, setting up a possible GOP showdown over the federal investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.

[quote]The document, which was obtained by The Washington Post, underscores the growing chasm between congressional Republican leaders, who have maintained for months that special counsel Robert S. Mueller III should be allowed to proceed, and rank-and-file GOP lawmakers who have repeatedly battled the Justice Department during the past year.

[quote]The draft articles, which one of its authors called a “last resort,” would be unlikely to garner significant support in Congress. But the document could serve as a provocative political weapon for conservatives in their standoff with Mueller and the Justice Department.

...

[quote]Meadows acknowledged the draft in an interview Monday, calling the one-page document “a last resort option, if the Department of Justice fails to respond” for his requests for more information.

[quote]“My frustrations about their inability to respond to simple requests could warrant further action,” Meadows said, adding that many of his colleagues are nearing a breaking point with Rosenstein.

Those House Republicans are beyond reprehensible, they are downright DEPLORABLE!!!!!

Suggests to me that he has the campaign on collusion and wants to see if Trump himself knew.

BREAKING:...... NYT........Mueller has a list of 40 questions for Trump.......

The questions :

Well, that does it. Trump’s attorneys will never let him sit for this interview.

Mueller is no dummy.....NOW, Trump will address them publicly or via Twitter......and Trump will lie his ass off......and you already know Mueller has the answers to all the questions already, so Trump will hang himself.

I hope he hangs himself soon. I am so over this shit show.

R456, I agree with you. This is an invitation to Trump to address these questions publicly, even though his lawyers don’t want him to say anything. It’s cutting out the middle man.

Tomorrow’s toilet tweets can’t come soon enough!

please let him drunk dial Fux and fiends again!

More huddling with Hannity, Pirro, Nunes, and Miz Lindzey over this shit.

On MSNBC now: the list of questions may have come from someone connected with Dowd, the Trump lawyer who quit because Trump wouldn’t take his advice about not talking to Mueller. Why did someone Dowd-adjacent release this now?

R462, because Dowd was insistent about Trump NOT meeting with Mueller at a time when Trump was publicly saying he might meet with him. Behind the scenes Dowd felt it was a really bad move. Apparently the Trump legal team saw the list of topics Mueller wanted to question him about and Dowd decided it would be like, really really bad for Trump and the Mueller guys to get together . Ever. Trump would not listen to Dowd so Dowd decided to leave. I think Dowd still likes Trump and supports him, and "somehow" he allowed that list to be leaked to build a consensus against Trump meeting Mueller.

I believe Miz Lindsey is representing the people back home, and also he is representing the people who give him money, and also he is trying to be a team player for the Midterms. So that's why he is acting like a Grade A Prized Asshole...and not in a good way.

Kanye has a type

They said it did not leak from anyone on Trumps legal team......and they refused to answer when asked if it came from Mueller. No, this is Mueller setting Trump up.....he knows the answers....the next step is for Mueller to subpoena Trump to appear before the GJ.......and hopefully in the meantime, Trump will get grilled by the press or have a twitter meltdown providing Mueller with evidence to put Trump and co away for a very long time.

You know it’s Trump who leaked the questions.

Oops, sorry. I meant to say John Barron leaked the questions

That really goes without saying at this point, R468 . . .

John Dean posted on Twitter and I believe him. Dean said these were not questions submitted to Trump's lawyers from Mueller. These were a list of question areas that the Trump lawyers developed based on their meeting with the Mueller people to negotiate the meeting with Trump. Dowd didn't want trump to meet with Mueller after they realized where this line of questions would lead. it is believed that someone from Dowd's office leaked the list. Dowd is no longer Trump's lawyer. But this certainly did not come from Mueller.

This makes most sense, R470.

They need to also investigate any Russian sources of funding for any Trump enterprises.

I agree about paper ballots, r431.

We know damn well the Republicans are gonna cheat again in November. Cheating is the only way they can win.

Lindsey does have a couple of very powerful gentlemen that do call upon her. Mr. Koch with his money bags and agenda; a Mr. Murdoch who is featuring Lindsey on Fox almost daily.

[quote] They need to also investigate any Russian sources of funding for any Trump enterprises.

I suspect that Mueller and perhaps the folks in the U.S. Attorney's office for the Southern District of New York are already on it.

R473 dont underestimate them. They'll find a way to cheat with paper ballots too.

It's too bad that the eyeshadow bs scooped up all the controversy because Michelle Wolf made a joke about Trump having no money and if he'd been allowed to watch the complete routine, that's what he would've fixated on. But Fox never showed that part.

Yes, R476, they will. People have been cheating with paper ballots for more than 100 years. Maybe 200 years. but it's much easier to discover the cheating when you can track it andtrace it. Paper allows for tracking, digital is much harder. So many computer "glitches" so many "errors."

The Trump campaign has been paying the legal expenses of Michael Cohen. This arrangement may, in fact, violate campaign finance laws.

Lock them up. All of them.

Looks like John Dean, still atoning for his Watergate sins, called it right—the sloppy grammar in the list of questions leads unerringly back to the sloppy shop that is the Trump White House.

‘i’ before ‘e’, except after SEE YA LATER, SWAMPINATOR!!!!

I concur with the woman on CNN who said the White House leaked these questions to get Trump’s attention. He won’t listen to them so they use the media to get him to cognitively accept the situation. It’s like dealing with an infant. Either Trump answers a deposition and perjures himself, or he refuses to interview and causes a constitutional crisis. If the Democrats win in November, Trump is out

Apparently Trump is the leaker, which makes a lot of sense. You can't get John Barron out of Trump.

Called it

[quote] Michael Zeldin, a CNN legal analyst and former assistant to Robert Mueller, said Tuesday he believes President Trump leaked the list of nearly 50 questions the special counsel allegedly wants to ask Trump.

Hang on....is this guy related to Lee Zeldin, the tea party congressional Republican from NY? Zeldin is not a common name.

Typos and grammatical errors prove that it was leaked from the White House. We live in a time where a one eyed man leads two eyed people.

I’m sick of these media and political people not being transparent about who they are related to/married to.

What????

Thread continues at pt. 24.

No, it doesn't R489. Why would you even do that? We have over 100 more posts to go.

Sorry, you are tight, R490.

My bad.

R488, that's an insane story. The White House really didn't want anyone nosing around the quack doctor's office asking questions, did they? LOL at Trump being treated under his own name and under various pseudonyms as well. "John Barron"? Oh, he's everywhere, leaking stories, obtaining speed prescriptions . . .

[quote]A framed 8x10 photo of Bornstein and Trump that had been hanging on the wall in the waiting room now lies flat under a stack of papers on the top shelf of Bornstein's bookshelf. Bornstein said the men asked him to take it off the wall.

I’m guessing Jackson wanted to prescribe something to Pence’s wife that her other dr didn’t like. Maybe HRT. Maybe Xanax. Maybe Thorazine😏

Whatever Bornstein prescribed Trump under a pseudonym is still being given to a Trump. He can get Schiller to get the Rx, give it to someone who can transport it to Trump. Jared, Ivanka, Jr

It would be "funny" if he abuses prescription drug or if he overdoses.

Brief 2nd family dialogue:

"Mother" Pence: I will not allow you to meet with that hussy alone.

Mike: But "Mother", Miss Lindsey is not really a woman; she's like Roger on American Dad; she pretends. I have to do my duty for you and I to rule the White House.

"Mother" Pence: Well, OK, then.

[quote]The Trump campaign has been paying the legal expenses of Michael Cohen.

Odd then that Trump was at such huge repetitive pains during his Fox rant to distance himself from Cohen - constantly calling him a 'businessman', who dealt with only a tiny fraction of Trump's legal matters.

Rosenstein: "The DOJ is not going to be extorted"

The perfect casting for the good Dr Bornstein in the Trump movie:

David Pecker, Nat'l Enquier, is receiving WHAT in return for the ongoing dirty publicity in behalf of DJT? Who is paying? Is it domestic or foreign?

Mueller is not stupid enough to release his findings to a Republican Congress only to have them buried or not released. The 2018 elections will mark the middle of the end of Trump.

Mueller wont need to release his findings.....when Jared, junior, Eric, Ivanka, Bannon, Prince, etc get rounded up in an early morning raid, it will be enough to turn the tide.

This is not how Mueller operates. Drumpf and friends did this in an act of desperation, like the doctor's office raid. I think it's Dowd or Ghouliana who did this.

All Ivanka and Jared seem to be worried about is getting rid of General Kelly. They are obsessed with it!

[quote] Here’s the thing I wonder about. Wouldn’t it be better if Republicans turned on Trump? It would prevent a blue wave in November if they fielded a bunch of no-trumpers. But they’re sticking by Trump. Why? They know something we don’t between now & November.

I thought it was odd that key Republicans were shitting themselves over the midterms but Trump is adamant that all will be fine. It's similar to how he insisted he'd win the election. Why do we expect that the midterms will be fair?

Also from Sam's twitter:

Sam SteinVerified account @samstein

Leaks about the Mueller team’s interactions with the Trump legal team seem to have picked up since Rudy joined the crew

As the only legal information they've received from Mueller, of course they'd try this ploy to pander to the base. It won't make a difference and may just backfire very very badly when he starts dump tweeting.

R508: I felt Ghouliani was behind this leak from the beginning.

R489 can we just let OP handle it? It's been working just fine so far.

So what is the speculation on why Orange would leak the questions to the NYT? How does he benefit from it?

Read the posts at R507, R512. It's classic Drumpf reasoning.

[quote]I felt Ghouliani was behind this leak from the beginning.

Nicole Wallace said today she got unprompted calls from people telling her it wasn't Rudy G. Which immediately makes you think it's him.

If Ghouliana thinks he knows how to get under Mueller's skin, he would be wrong. We will not be hearing about this beyond the initial carping and whining. Mueller will plod along until he's finished or stopped. Either way, it's already too late for this one and he knows it. The desperation reeks!

Meanwhile, the NYTs proves, once again, what a whoring bunch of whores they are. Did they check with Mueller beforehand, as a good journalist is required to do?

John Bolton and Lindsey Graham sound like warmongers ready to do Netanyahu's bidding, and give Trump the ultimate distraction and diversion.

Republicans will be yelling: "We can't be investigating our President in a time of war. Think about our men and women in uniform".

Miz Linds fancies herself being a soldier's wife, and when he comes home from the battlefield, she is swept off her feet and carried upstairs to the master bedroom for endless passion.

The leaks came from the Trump team. I guess these are the questions they expect Mueller to ask.

1 - Why Trump did it -- to prepare the public for what will be coming abt him and give Fox enough time to convince Trumpers that it is all a witch hunt. 2 - Giveaway Trump's team did it - the list had all sort of typos/grammatical errors.

The list was prepared by an older person who has lost much of his sharpness.

Rudy

It seems like a Rudy move/leak? But I don't get what it gives him? Part of it could be real Mueller questions and part could be made up by Rudy?

When Lindsey Graham is on Fox each time, he should voluntarily disclose how much he receives in the long-term contributions from the military industrial complex, i. e. GE, Lockheed Martin, etc.

Seth remembers everything!

Mueller's investigation makes me think of this classic clip: the faster Mueller moves in his investigation, the more crimes keep being committed that he has to follow....

CNN: A hyperbolic 2015 letter about then-candidate Trump's health was dictated by Trump himself, according to that crazy former doctor of his.

For anyone who doesn't recall....

This was a ploy to build the case for Trump to fire Mueller. This was a Devin Nunes like special. Maybe Devin didn't have his hand in it, but someone, Sean Hannity? Rudy? Some brilliant brain trust in the WH manufactured this as any bright House staff member could or even a Stephen MIllllar type and it is simply a summary of assumptions of things Mueller "could" ask Trump. What galls me is that first the news media says they have no idea what the source is, then they go ahead and start analyzing the questions as if they have any credible standing. THe news media is just as sloppy and careless and desperate for news toi feed the rating beast as they ever were. The first clue this was more Trumpian bullshit is that it got leaked to the New York TImes and boy do they look stupid. John Dean called this yesterday a few minutes after the times published it. And I posted the fact that John Dean called it and I agree with him. This White Hosue and its cohorts have a pattern of behavior especially when trying to play us, and when they're lying....which is most of the time. Sorry Donald. YOu look ridiculous and if you were building a case against Mueller this is not going to pass the smell test.

Heard a great theory on Twitter today - Bornstein leaked the info about the doctor's office heist because he was passed over for the WH physician's job.

Nothing more than a rumor, but still.

They want to fire Mueller. But it can't be arbitrary. They have to do it for "cause." Same with Rosenstein. So they need to buid a case. If they can fake a leak and make it appear to come from Mueller, and hype it as "illegal" (Trump loves that word and I hope it comes back real d=soon to bite him in his fat ass.) then they can manufacture a reason to fire Mueller. The hilarious part is this could have come from Nunes, or Hannity, Conway, Giuliani, take your pick. The clown car is loaded with suspects. Right now I'm thinking of those words from Deep Throat during Watergate: "These guys aren't very bright, and things got out of hand."

According to WaPo, the questions were written down by Jay Sekulow based on a discussion with Mueller's people around a potential Trump interview. He extrapolated from what the discussion touched on but they weren't actual formulated questions by the Mueller team.

WaPo: Mueller raised the possibility of a presidential subpoena in a meeting with Trump’s legal team in early March, WaPo reports.

This is the meeting based on which Sekulow wrote down the questions.

Hey Trump's lawyers, if he's innocent why are you fighting Mueller so hard?

r532....Its their job. What I dont understand is how they can tolerate the games Trump is playing with his rhetoric, etc. Its very unprofessional, and unlike characters like Cohen and Kasowitz,....... Dowd, Sekulow, Cobb do actually practice in court.

GOONS!

What's with DJT alledgedly using goons to intimidate and threaten Stormy, his Doctor, the Deputy Attorney General, and gosh knows who else.?

r534.....hes actively threatening the World Cup committee as we speak....hes made threats to them for the past few days...on twitter and his stump speeches.

If Mueller is planning to subpoena Trump if he won't agree to an interview, Mr Mueller must have tons of evidence of a crime/crimes. It's never been done before to a POTUS.

R56, Bill Clinton was subpoenaed in the Lewinsky inquiry. Clinton’s lawyers negotiated a taped deposition which was shown to the grand jury.

Well Rachel just dropped a bombshell. Apparently Dowd dangled a possible Presidential pardon to Flynn, and he resigned immediately after that was discussed as one of the areas of questioning. Damn. Sekulow and the others all have their knives out...for one another. What a fucking mess.

Fuck.

R538, does this mean that Dowd himself might be a part of the obstruction case? Wow.

How soon do you all think Mueller will make his move to interview or subpoena Trump? When do you think Trump will finally leave or be forced to leave office? 2018? early 2019? late 2019? 2020? How many, if any, of his family, will be sucked into the undertow with Trump? Will Pence go too?

So many questions . . .

I NEED THIS TO BE OVER

I AM SO EXHAUSTED OF IT ALL

Mueller is ready to move , and he will probably make his move between now and the beginning of June.......were almost there.....this summer is going to be crazy........

Mueller knows that his actions will have ramifications. Mueller will begin the rollout of charges starting with Pence in early 2019. Depending on who is the Speaker of the House. Trump will be taken out early 2020 to totally fuck the Republicans. The only thing that will speed up this process will be the rare occurrence of Republican moving to impeach and convict Trump. Will that hapien? We shall see.

I think those dates are too late, R544. Trump won't make it to 2020. Mueller will wait until the Dems take the House and then start moving on the major players. Summer of 2019 will be the latest Trump will last. They'll indict Ivanka and Jared in the Spring to pressure him.

Every day feels like 10 years

R546 I hear ya....

R546: I know! Every morning and evening. I have anxiety about what did Trump do [italic]now??!

The worst part is that no matter how bad the transgressions I imagine every single day, this fucker still manages to surpass them or come up with something completely unimaginable to fuck up. We're all going to have Post Trump Stress Disorder for years!

I completely agree. I was just thinking this evening that this can't end soon enough. Every damn day it is not one story, but multiple stories about obstruction, collusion, corruption, lying, cheating, and malfeasance surrounding this crowd of misfits, idiots, and traitorous felons. He had his goons raid his doctor's office and take his files? And Simple Sarah claims this is standard operating procedure. Where? Russia?

I know that Mueller is working as fast as possible, and I know these type of cases take time to carefully develop them, but please let this be over relatively quickly.

Yes. Each morning I wake up, go to the computer to see who died, and then when I see whose name is missing I try to come up with ways how to rescue the day. I have HAD it. I don't dare call a crisis line because I suspect I'm not alone and I'd either be put on hold or take a volunteer away from an improbably needier case.

I now entertain a theory that these coprophagite nitwits intetionally commit as many crimes as possible in NY so that the AG's office is slammed and too distracted to bring any case to court.

What fascinates me is how Drumpf keeps screaming there was no collusion! No obstruction!

Fuckface you sat there in an interview and laid out how you did in fact obstruct justice.

R552: He thinks if he says it and tweets it enough times, we will believe it.

Well a lot of this is due to the media breathlessly report every turd as if it were major. They have to keep feeding the beast as it were, keeping up with the competition and making sure they are on top of the ratings game. The pressure on reporters has to be almost unbearable. Rachel was joking about getting ulcers. But for us it raises our anxiety level, and is like some huge gloomy cloud hanging over our heads.

I know for me I had to dial it back. And I discovered I know as much as I need to know without hearing every single development, because the Media has no judgement about what is important and what isn't. And of course every single thing is one of those "this never happened before in the history of our country blah blah blah." I was having a nervous breakdown. So now I limit my TV. One hour of news every day. Unless something earthshaking happens the pundits just keep rehashing the same old shit from one show to the next. I don't need to hear about trump's doctor from six different news shows.

I use Twitter for news feeds from the regulars. I read the digital edition of the Washington Post and I read AXIOS and that's about it. I'm very well informed, and I no longer watch news shows on the weekend. If something imortant comes out, you know it'll be repeated. I watch movies or binge watch some good TV series, I read books, I go out with friends and gossip. I have been attempting to have some balance in my life. Going out doors for walks is a great way to get away from the news. So do yourselves a favor and put some distance between yourself and the TV. Listen to some music. Get laid.

Totally agree, R549.

Going back to the discussion of paper ballots and rigging and all that glorious shit the Republicans do...

Anyone in WA state? How do we implement their process Nationwide?

From what I understand they do mail in ballots only and you are able to check the status of your ballot online.

It's funny...tRump's 'doctor' is a gastroenterologist, not an internal medicine doc....He said he'd been prescribing"hair growing medicine" for Cheetolini for years...Gastroenterologists Don't generally prescribe such medicines...I bet that's not ALL he prescribed for him!

The Media outlets are doing their best at giving people fatigue and numbing them so they just don't care.

[quote]Hey Trump's lawyers, if he's innocent why are you fighting Mueller so hard?

Hillary!

Bornstein has a nice Park Avenue office

Apparently Washington, Oregon, and Colorado are vote by mail only states.

So he got Bornstein to shill for him... so who ii s his REAL doctor?

Has this thread lasted longer than all the other ones?

I sort of love her.

R566 shes one of the only Republicans who doesnt make me sick.

We're getting closer and closer to Treason of the Witch.

How do these people sleep at night?

R569... I'll never tell.

Have we done my favorite? 16 reasons?

That is such a weird fucking photo (minus the play thing that was photoshopped in)

A National Enquirer cover story targeting Michael Cohen could be a strong sign President Donald Trump is upset with his personal lawyer and turning against the man known for years as his "fixer," a source close to Trump said.

According to the source, Enquirer publisher David Pecker, who is a longtime friend of Trump's, would not have allowed the publication of the story -- which featured a headline including the phrase "Trump's Fixer's Secrets & Lies" -- without the President's blessing.

The special counsel's office wants two more months before it looks toward sentencing former national security adviser Michael Flynn, who has pleaded guilty to lying to investigators and is cooperating in the Russia probe.

"Due to the status of the special counsel's investigation, the parties do not believe that this matter is ready to be scheduled for a sentencing hearing at this time," Robert Mueller's prosecutors and Flynn's lawyers told the DC federal court on Tuesday. Flynn pleaded guilty five months ago. Prosecutors have previously delayed scheduling his sentencing.

This thread will probably fill up by early morning. Starting the new thread now so it's in place for you all.

I hope you're the OP R578 and not that one from earlier.

What an asshole:

Link below for the new thread for when this fills up:

Someone please link the new thread at the bottom of this when it gets close to maxing out, thanks.

Hey. remember how we joke about Trump's speech being slurred sometimes? I wonder if he was getting "something for the stress" from Dr. Ronnie????

R583 Yes! And what about all lol that sniffing?

Allergies, R584.

President Ranty-Pants has been tweeting up a storm this morning:

There was no Collusion (it is a Hoax) and there is no Obstruction of Justice (that is a setup & trap). What there is is Negotiations going on with North Korea over Nuclear War, Negotiations going on with China over Trade Deficits, Negotiations on NAFTA, and much more. Witch Hunt!

“The questions are an intrusion into the President’s Article 2 powers under the Constitution to fire any Executive Branch Employee...what the President was thinking is an outrageous.....as to the President’s unfettered power to fire anyone...” Joe Digenova, former US Attorney

NEW BOOK - A MUST READ! “The Russia Hoax - The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump” by the brilliant Fox News Legal Analyst Gregg Jarrett. A sad chapter for law enforcement. A rigged system!

A Rigged System - They don’t want to turn over Documents to Congress. What are they afraid of? Why so much redacting? Why such unequal “justice?” At some point I will have no choice but to use the powers granted to the Presidency and get involved!

Gregg Jarrett, a brillant Fox News Legal Analyst?

R586, his whole demeanor is one of constant threatening. What a tiresome bore this asshole is.

The only thing I need, R590, is the announcement of his death. Knowing anything about these people makes me ill.

I haven't seen this one in awhile... where's he been?

Thanks, R593. I didn't want to open anything today but that headline was just too good.

I think he meant it's interfering with his Tweeting.

Link to new thread.

In midterm elections, Republicans are running against ... Hillary Clinton. Still.

In total, nearly 13,000 TV commercials Jan. 1 through April 24 mentioned or showed a photo of Clinton, according to data compiled for the USA TODAY NETWORK by Kantar Media's Campaign Media Analysis Group.

They will run against her when she is dead and in the grave. Talk about obsession!

MSNBC reporting that Ty Cobb (and his mustache) are "retiring".

^Proof they're so Godamned obsessed over her.

Link to new thread.