Treasons Change (The Mueller Investigation Part 22)

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Previous thread titles for reference:

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation (10/27/17)

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation, Part Two (10/28/17)

The Four Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 3 (10/31/17)

A Man For All Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 4 (11/5/17)

It's Beginning to Look a lot like Treason! The Mueller Investigation Part 5 (12/4/17)

Treason Is The Reason For The Season! The Mueller Investigation Part 6 (12/16/17)

Treason to Believe (The Mueller Investigation Part 7) (12/26/17)

I Love You For Sentimental Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 8) (1/3/18)

Give Me One Treason To Stay Here... (The Mueller Investigation Part 9) (1/15/18)

Treasons of Love (The Mueller Investigation Part 10) (1/24/18)

For Treasons Which Are Well Known To Them (The Mueller Investigation Part 11) (1/30/18)

Come on and Treason Down, Treason Down the Road (The Mueller Investigation Part 12) (2/6/18)

13 Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 13) (2/18/18)

By Treason of Insanity (The Mueller Investigation Part 14) (2/23/18)

The Edge of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 15) (2/28/18)

A Treason to Live; A Treason to Die (The Mueller Investigation Part 16)…(3/10/18)

Treasons of the Heart (The Mueller Investigation Part 17) (3/17/18)

A Stormy Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 18) (3/21/18)

Lovin', Touchin', Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 19) (3/26/18)

Everything Happens for a Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 20) (4/4/18)

For All the Right Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 21) (4/11/18)

Treasons Change (The Mueller Investigation Part 22) (4/16/18)

Katy Tur is beside herself with excitement from the Hannity news.

I will also add that Cohens brother is married to a Russian mobsters daughter....and he has made millions from that association......

Why is the Hannity News significant?

Re Hannity:

Kyle Griffin: Remember why Trump and Elliott Broidy needed Michael Cohen's legal services.

Because Cohen is the fixer and pays off women to keep quiet about stuff. Also, treason.

If Hannity somehow ends up in jail or at least off the air, this nightmare may have been worth it all.

Within the last two years, Hannity has used the services of Cohen. (msnbc reporter)

So Sean Hannity is Cohen's third client? Is Mr. Hannity mixed up with the obstruction of justice? Or is money laundering involved?

Short Hannity statement (on msnbc): "We are friends. I've sought legal advice from Michael Cohen."

Cohen is a mobster and a fixer, not really a lawyer. If you seek "legal advice" from him, you probably want someone pushed around.

probably payoffs for sexual harassment, etc.....

Is anyone watching FOX? I wonder how they’re spinning it.

R13, they probably won't even mention it.

Hannity didn't want to be associated with the case - why he wanted his name withheld per MSNBC reporter.

Please let there be photos of Hannity engaged in some homosex. That's the only thing that would get Deplorables to turn on him.

R13 I immediately turned to Fox when I heard the news. It's Shep Smith's hour. He's covering it, and doing a pretty decent job.

Shep Smith should be on right now. If anyone would mention it, it’s him.

I’m out of my office and can’t get to a television.

News to his wife?

r17....what did he say ?

Shep Smith is not a Hannity fan.

Shep has named Hannity. Reporting now.

Hmmmm, did Sean pay off a porn star as well?

This is fucking hilarious.

How many women did Sean Hannity rape?

too bad every important story can't break when Shep is on

Busted!

MSNBC with a good point: if Cohen had not resisted having his documents reviewed by the government "taint team," Sean Hannity's name would probably never have been revealed. But now it's out there. There's probably no stopping this story until we find out what bad things Hannity was doing.

Any newly-hired reporter, let alone anchor, at the lowest-rated local station would disclose to bosses if he or she was a friend or client of someone under investigation. And then recuse from reporting on it, or at least give a disclaimer on air.

Hannity did none of that, apparently.

I bet Cohen arranged for some of Hannity haters to be offed.

MSNBC is reporting Cohen hired private investigator to find out dirt on Sean enemies.

Jimmy Kimmel, girl your move.

Jimmy, you in danger, girl!

So Hannity responds and says there is Attormey Client privilege... and in the same breath says he never paid or hired Cohen to do any work for him?

Jesus they're bright.

He paid Cohen what his legal advice was worth

Late Night should have fun with this.

I can't wait for the SNL skit of Cohen being asked for legal advice by random (famous?) people on the street and not asking for a single dime.

[quote]Jesus they're bright.

Luckily for him, he's leaps and bounds "smarter" than any of his idiot fans.

[quote]MSNBC with a good point: if Cohen had not resisted having his documents reviewed by the government "taint team," Sean Hannity's name would probably never have been revealed. But now it's out there. There's probably no stopping this story until we find out what bad things Hannity was doing.

Hannity claims he never asked for his name to be secret--that was just something Cohen said Hannity said.

Man, the way Karma works these days she must be the busiest bitch in the universe!

[quote]the way Karma works these days she must be the busiest bitch in the universe!

Nah, it just me.

Hey, do you think there’s any possibility that Cohen has a copy of the pee-pee tape? Which would mean the FBI has it now.

Msnbc reporter saying there was covert surveillance of Cohen aka wiretap.

Tuned in to see what Fox News had to say following Shep.

Neil Cavuto was hosting Matthew Louis Gaetz II, Congressman from the 1st district in Florida beginning in 2017. I understand he's the Congressman whose father fixed his DUIs. He's on the House Budget and Judiciary Committees. Gaetz has been a ringleader in trying to shut down the Russian intrusion investigation and have Mueller terminated. He resorts to Hillary attacks, over and over, to deflect and claim a dual standard.

Gaetz and a few of his cohorts are frequent on Fox. This is no Miss Lindzey. He is extreme, and acts and sounds like Nunes on steroids.

Is anyone challenging him in Florida's 1st district for 2018? This guy needs some bigtime scrutiny and competition.

Birds of a feather and only the best!!

Fox News: Those wacky Pandas are at it again...

Its Matt Gaetz.....and yes, his daddy got him out of a bunch of DUIs....and surprise.....a GAY scandal.......seems Matty likes cock and cant help it........

I dont know if he has a challenger, but i would be surprised if he didnt.......but again, daddys pockets are deep.

Heres the dirt on Gaetz.......seems he had a dead roommate too.......

Trump's request to withhold the Cohen documents denied.

Wow, his face really does look like a thumb.

Bump for Treason

As with this whole case, the coverups impacted the election and amount to treason. We all knew Trump was dirty, and Hannity, but now there is ample evidence in the hands of federal (and soon to be state) prosecutors. I don’t even know why the Republicans don’t give up now to mitigate their midterm damage. Maybe because they are all guilty too. Giant waste of taxpayer money

Will we ever find out what Hannity needed fixed? Probably not.

So is the evidence gleaned from wiretaps and emails going to be separated from what Trump people get to review? That mostly will be what they got from their raid?

Pompanono should be a no for Secretary of State.

Did you say Hannity was money laundering for Russia?

Hannity had a hand in directing the propaganda and assisting in its distribution.

As r41 notes, there's an MSNBC report that Cohen was wiretapped? Has anyone else reported on this or was this just a careless reporter getting his facts wrong?

People reported on that last week.....they were also monitoring his electronic submissions....i.e emails

Ah, I guess I just missed that. Thanks, R58.

I am really dubious that much of Cohen’s documents are attorney client privileged. If it’s just arrangements for hush money then there was no legal advice provided, just coverups for crimes

[quote]Did you say Hannity was money laundering for Russia?

A lot of people are saying that.

Again, why is Mitch MCConnell enabling illegal activity? Because he got his tax cuts and will die soon? What a giant asshole.

Tonight on CNN they were interviewing tRump supporters re Comey, Mueller and Rosenstein, who are all Republicans. I'm not sure from where.

Cognitive dissonance is alive and well!

Mitch McConnell & Elaine Chao tax haven business.

Crooks! I am still dumbfounded Kellyanne et al. can talk about the President’s case like it’s a traffic ticket

Why can't they invoke the 25 th amendment?

Because Trump’s cabinet are all in his pocket. They are institutionalizing criminality and corruption

All politicians are in it for themselves, if they had done what said they were gonna do, this fat fuck wouldn't have been elected!

And comey says trump is not morally fit. It's a snake pit, all politicans' morals are sold to highest bidder. I can't wait for all of them to go to jail, esp Jared, displacing hundreds of people out of their rent controlled apts

[quote] I am still dumbfounded Kellyanne et al. can talk about the President’s case like it’s a traffic ticket

That’s her job. That’s why she is such a high ranking Republican agent. Because she can talk over people, she can snottily deny things, then immediately pivot and do a mean girl “whatabout” and never miss a beat. What she needs is a female tv journalist who does a Kellyanne impersonation while interviewing her.

Because they don't serve you. They serve various businesses and their own interests.

Michael Avenatti on Larry O'Donnell: There is something there. Michael Cohen just doesn't volunteer the name Sean Hannity as a client unless there is a document that they want to deep six or keep confidential.

They've been keeping Conway in the kennel until they needed her particular evil stylings. I wish someone would snatch her wig, and her face while they're at it.

R72 well he actually didn’t want to admit it... he was told to by the judge. But something is amiss here—not really getting a sense for what it is. I mean, it’s a massive conflict of interest journalistically but Hannity doesn’t give a crap about that.

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Kellyanne's husband has been tweeting some critical Trump comments for a while now. I can't believe tolerates it!

[quote]Kellyanne's husband has been tweeting some critical Trump comments for a while now. I can't believe tolerates it!

Who, KellyAnne? The same person who was dragging Trumpito the year before he hired her?

The bitch who will simultaneously defend and attack [bold]A N Y B O D Y[/bold] for the right amount of cash?

Srsly?

That pig has a husband?

That story at R75 would be a massive scandal with any other president, but with this one it will hardly make a blip. The extent and sheer volume of trash surrounding Dump is astounding. He is a seething trash heap to his core, as is everyone associated with him.

It’s the most bizarre sight to witness self-professed “Christians” defending Trump’s behaviour, as all the sleaze is now piling high to the ceiling. They say he’s like them and I now think they’re right.

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#MeToo

[quote]told her she was 'beautiful' and 'classy',

Is there a more classless word in the English language than 'classy'?

The intersection of Trump's now obvious attraction to porn stars and playmates, with his "modeling" agencies and beauty contests shout human trafficking to me. And don't forget the "networking parties" that he hosted for wealthy businessmen. Under aged "models" were used there too. Cohen had a lot of messes to clean up, and so many opportunities for blackmail, extortion, and coercion . Getting Cohen definitely lifted up the rock, and now all the vermin will be exposed. The Trump organization is going to get dismantled.

I wonder how much money DJT funneled to that stupid bitch Barbara Moore to make her say tRump is a great lover and a great president.

[quote]The intersection of Trump's now obvious attraction to porn stars and playmates, with his "modeling" agencies and beauty contests shout human trafficking to me.

Well, those are the rumors.

Won't that get fun if Mueller has the receipts?

Meanwhile, Jared is still "working" for the WH after his security clearance was lowered. Infuriating!

Nikki Haley spoke of new sanctions on Russia on Sunday. The next day, Monday, DJT forbids doing so.

He wants to keep Putie happy. Happy, happy, Putie!

Well, apparently the Hannity thing was just a big nothingburger (per Hannity)! Sean says he did not consult with Cohen with any legal issues.

Illegal issues on the other hand.....

No, R81. I was the one that suggested it! It was me!

Pruitt installs in his office, a private phone booth, costing over $40,000 at taxpayers expense. This on top of of a long list of spending abuses, and this guy is still around, and event touted as the next AG?

Pruitt is gutting the EPA so environmental destructionists may have their way to exploit and poison air, water, soil, wildlife, and the remaining forests.

Another Republican's running for the hills

So that makes WI, PA what about OH and FL?

Top Republican Official Says Trump Won Wisconsin Because of Voter ID Law

Election officials and Democrats in Wisconsin have repeatedly argued that the state’s strict voter ID law allowed Donald Trump to win the state in 2016 by keeping thousands of voters—predominantly in Democratic-leaning areas—from the polls. Now a top Republican official in the state is saying the same thing.

“We battled to get voter ID on the ballot for the November ’16 election,” Wisconsin Attorney General Brad Schimel, who defended the law in court, told conservative radio host Vicki McKenna on April 12. “How many of your listeners really honestly are sure that Sen. [Ron] Johnson was going to win reelection or President Trump was going to win Wisconsin if we didn’t have voter ID to keep Wisconsin’s elections clean and honest and have integrity?”

In a University of Wisconsin study published in September 2017, 1 in 10 registered voters in Milwaukee County and Madison’s Dane County who did not cast a ballot in 2016 cited the voter ID law as a reason why. That meant that up to 23,000 voters in the two heavily Democratic counties—and as many as 45,000 voters statewide—didn’t vote because of the voter ID law. Trump won the state by 22,000 votes.

There is something fishy with Cohen naming Hannity as a client. Maybe some quid pro quo - favorable news coverage or lies before the election for a free condo. Illegal of course

The SKETCH is out!

Here it is:

Hannity was cooperating with Assange and Russia to spread propaganda......

HMMMM....So the chairman of the ETHICS committee is resigning....interesting....

The common bond is love of Putie and imposing a dictatorship in U.S.

Everything written at R98 sounds completely plausible. If true it is astounding.

R91, he is such a scumbag. I really hope there will be a mob waiting for him somewhere, someday.

The President of the U.S. calling for jailing of unprosecuted, unindicted, and non-convicted citizens, primarily political opponents such as Hillary Clinton and James Comey, is highly disturbing. This is what the worst of third world dictators do. And this disgusting Congress looks 5he other way.

Sadly agree, r103.

They flatout don’t serve us, it’s been a long time since they have.

Republicans are evil. Stay away. They mean us great harm.

The sketch at R97 looks like a Tony Robbins love child.

R92, Charlie Dent announced this last year. Not news.

I want to know the identity of the NY FBI agents working with Giuliani who threatened to leak the email investigation. They had the emails from Weiner’s laptop (thanks to NYPD) in early October. They withheld the emails until the last few days before the election. Giuliani announced there would be an “October surprise.” Comey then released the statement about reopening the investigation. The NY Times says Comey released the statement because the NY FBI guts were going to leak the investigation to the media.

Can we have the swamp back? Please?

This retired FBI big wig had a big part in the influence of Comey. And he is still at it. On Fox a lot claiming all kinds of things.

r108...he announced last year he wasnt running again......he is now leaving next month......that allows for an replacement appointment by the governor

Yes, Kallstrom is a part of that team. Who are the rest? Where are they now? Why aren’t they being investigated?

Kalstrom was the agent in charge when some commercial jet crashed and we were unsure whether it was literally shot down, or whether the pilot was some suicidal jihadi from Egypt. I remember this. It went down at night shortly after taking off from LGA or JFK. Anyway, as I heard it, he retired and heads up some association of retired feeral agents and he is real tight with Rudy.

Do you mean feral agents, r114?

I can see Hannity being a mouthpiece for Russian propaganda all designed to prop up Trump. We used to have Nazi sympathizers here on the airwaves during WW 2. o nothing new. And of course Charles Lindbergh and Henry Ford were Nazi sympathizers mostly becaue they were anti-Semites.

It was TWA 800, a Boeing 747 going to Paris in 1996. Some conspiracy theories blamed the navy for shooting it down.

Since we are discussing sleazy faux-journalists what happened to Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck? Nary a peep from these guys anymore.

Interesting read, nicely summed up.

Tea Pain's Twitter: FUN FACT: Trump spends more in two golfin' weekends than the entire annual budget of the Mueller investigation.

Charles Lindberg believed in Eugenics. He believed he was of a superior race. (I think he was Swedish.) But he bought into the Nazi thinking. Roosevelt refused to allow him to enter the American military in World War II. He didn't trust him.

(He had a couple other families in Europe. Believed in spreading his seed. I don't think we knew this till after his death?)

I'd bet Trump believes that stuff too.

Comey is protecting the FBI by not letting us know who Rudy’s bitches are.

R121, if you haven’t already, you should read The Plot Against America by Philip Roth. In fact, the events in the book are eerily similar to what’s happening today in the U.S.

[quote]I'd bet Trump believes that stuff too.

First of all, Trump doesn't "believe" anything.

Secondly, he certainly is not looking to spread the family gelt anywhere but home.

R123 How does it compare to Malcolm Nance's book The Plot to Hack America?

r123 Except by this point of length in the administration the stooge Nazi president had left. This real world example lingering is not as satisfying.

[quote] Kellyanne's husband has been tweeting some critical Trump comments for a while now. I can't believe [she] tolerates it!

George Conway's tweets lead me to speculate that Kellyanne might be a WH leaker.

R98 That basic thought came to mind when Hannity got mentioned. There may be a connection among Hannity-Wiki-Assange-Kremlin whereby talking-points are delivered and exchanged. It is coordination. Hannity is the propagandist to protect and deflect for Trump which benefits Putin's agenda. Hannity is a Tokyo Rose, but with immense visibility harsher language. If one listens to deplorables in coffee shops, barber shops, church socials, etc., it is evident they get their distorted views and reference points from Hannity.

Cohen imay be the go-between. It is to get Trump's approval and/or facilitating messaging among the alledged conspirators. The messenger that delivers "instructions" from abroad, and how it is done, may be evident in Cohen's obtained files.

Just a theory, but on surface, and with more disclosures needed, it is not difficult to hold such a perception.

r109 I am still obsessed with that whole story. And don't forget Jason Chaffetz knew something was coming before the Comey letter was written, too. After the Access Hollywood tape dropped Jason couldn't get on TV fast enough to assure his Mormon voters he could no longer support pussy grabbing Trump. Then suddenly in the middle of the night two days before the Comey letter..... Jason announces on Twitter he's back on the Trump train. Nothing suspicious there at all.

Comey said before Congress he was investigating those leaks out of NY FBI. We don't know if Christopher Wray continued that investigation or not.

The whole Republican line the FBI is a hot-bed of Hillary loving Democrats is complete bullshit. They hated her guts and some of them obviously worked to ratfuck her and throw the election.

I’m so angry on Hillary’s behalf.

Someone upthread was asking about Glenn Beck.

There isn't enough industrial-strength disinfectant in the world to get the Glenn Beck cooties off that plane. That listing will be up for ages unless they update the ad to say it has been thoroughly exorcised by a priest and even then...

What about your own behalf, r129?

The citizens of America are being screwed. Time they wake up and smell the coffee.

It's funny that Limbaugh isn't even on the radar in all this. How the mighty have fallen.

R133 I tried that. I was sitting at Starbucks with a friend of mind. We were just minding or own business, and next thing we know, we're being arrested!

^^mine

If you doubt how crazy they are and flat out dangerous to democracy:

Once again President Donald Trump will get out of town on the night of the White House Correspondents’ Dinner to be billed and cooed over by thousands of rally fans. This time, Trump is holding his WHCD counter-programming clambake in Washington – Michigan.

That’s so the White House could snark:

“While the fake news media will be celebrating themselves with the denizens of Washington society in the swamp that evening, President Trump will be in a completely different Washington celebrating…with patriotic Americans.”

So Trump's having another Nuremberg Rally?

Would anyone cry if Trump and every single person at that rally were killed the moment Trump walked on stage? Asking for a friend

Trump Toad Pompeo went to North Korea a few weeks ago. I still maintain Trump's fighting with NK is pure theater. NK will sign some deal just in time to give Trump a boost before mid-terms.

And did Trump just leak top secret info to try to shame Dems into voting to confirm Pompeo? Seems like it.

[quote]Charlie Dent announced this last year. Not news.

He announced he was retiring at the end of his term. The latest announcement is that he isn't even going to wait that long, which might set up another Pennsylvania special election.

It’s very unfortunate that official White House press releases use terms like “fake news” with taxpayer money

Is there a go fund me for the targeted missle strike at the rally?

I hope the press/tv does not air that rally. But sticks with their own night, the Correspondence Dinner.

It’s even worse because the Trump Campaign put out that statement. They are actively promoting Trump for the next election cycle, and the lines are completely blurred between what the White House is doing and what the campaign is doing. It’s really a shame that Republicans are retiring rather than trying to save democracy - who lets crooks run the county? Third world dictatorships

R121, because of his involvement with the anti-war movement in the years leading up to the US entry into WW2, Lindbergh resigned his military commission because he didn't think it was appropriate. As soon as we entered the war, Lindbergh ended his anti-war activities and offered to enter service again. FDR was furious at him for his anti-war activities and refused to allow him back into service.

Lindbergh went to work on helping private industry - maybe It was Ford - develop new planes for the war effort. FDR never relented in his refusal to let him back in but nonetheless he went to the Pacific visiting airfields to check on the planes and devise better flying techniques. Obviously the military welcomed his expertise and help. My dad flew B17 bombers in the Pacific and met Lindbergh during one of his visits to whatever island my dad was on. Lindbergh was able to figure out how and teach pilots to fly their planes so they could get much more mileage out of their fuel tanks - an incredibly important advance with the lack of available landing islands on the very long bombing missions to and from Japan (this is why they fought so hard to capture Iwo Jima). Better mileage meant the difference between crashing in the ocean or making it back to an airfield.

Supposedly FDR never knew of Lindbergh's service - and the generals were aghast when he actually went on some combat missions and downed enemy planes for fear Lindbergh would be shot down - and FDR finding out. In any event, he did his bit for the war effort and as the child of a flyer I am grateful for what he did.

Though he did have his peculiarities.

FDR was being careful, being A PRESIDENT.

Who knows what finally set Lindbergh onto the right path, and I'm glad for the American flyers who benefited, but it was a war, and Lindbergh was a nazi sympathizer.

Captain Psychological Projection has a Tweet for you this evening:

Linking the Talking Points Memo article on Cohen's ties to the Russian mob. This is really incredible. So much smoke here, it is hard to imagine the Orange Menace isn't deeply involved.

Yeah, R148, Cohen's and Trump's ties to the Russian mob are startling. The Rolling Stone article that someone posted in either this thread or the last one was shocking regarding how many "dirty" people from Russia they were involved with. It is no wonder that they are desperate to keep the FBI, the U.S. Attorney's Office, and the Special Counsel as far as possible from Cohen's documents, emails, and office contents as they possibly can.

Does Cheeto ever read the responses to his twitter rants?

LOL, Avenetti is filing slander charges against orange for Stormy.

Because of what he blurped into the tweet about the thug sketch.

Four posts since the Cleansing?

I guess a lot of the posters were Russian Trolls after all, huh?

Concern Trolls, begone!

[quote]Attorney General Eric T. Schneiderman of New York is moving to change New York state law so that he and other local prosecutors would have the power to bring criminal charges against aides to President Trump who have been pardoned, according to a letter Mr. Schneiderman sent to the governor and state lawmakers on Wednesday. The move, if approved by Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo and the Legislature, would serve notice that the legal troubles of the president and his aides may continue without the efforts of Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel investigating possible Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

Yaas Queen!!!^^^ Sorry

R152. Yes. There were of flood of them lately.

It caught some regular, insightful posters as well, but they have the option to pay the $1.50 I suppose.

The Russer trolls always have no history beyond a few days. That’s a real sign, as strange as it all may seem. Every time I’ve looked.

When Hannity claims it pertained to "real estate," he's lying. Michael Cohen only specializes in one thing, and that's payoffs to mistresses and their accompanying threats and bogus non-disclosure documents. As soon as I heard that Sean Hannity was Cohen's third client, I instantly thought of Debbie Schlussel, I can't think why. ;)

There's no such thing as 'fixer-client privilege.'

R157, but is that a full time job? I want that job!

The full extent of influence by the idiot Sean Hannity (who has a degree in blowtardery but never studied anything other than ratings) on the White House and the tacky southern version of the White House, is being explored by print and broadcast reporters.

Good god, that man is a dumbass, hypocrite douche.

I paid a whole buck fifty just for this thread so I hope you all appreciate my posts, goddamnit.

Also, Devin Nunes is all over Fox today saying the Russians have something on Comey.

Why isn't Devin in jail for obstruction??

Russians also have something on Nunes...

Their cocks!

[quote] the Russians have something on Comey

Nunes is such a complete and utter buffoon. The Russians don't have anything on Comey. Such bullshit. The man was the Director of the FBI. He underwent at least two intensive background investigations. One as US Attorney and the other to be the Director. Nunes expects us to believe that somewhere in the intervening 10 months since he was fired the Russians "got"something on him?

What a moron.

I assume Republicans will fully back New York changing the law about pardons since they are such firm believers in states' rights.

Devin needs to go back to milking cows. He's in way, way over his head.

Fox/Murdoch is supporting Sean Hannity because, so far, the network is not having to fork out millions to women, alledging assault or harassment, as they with Roger Ailes and Bill O'Reilly.

And they have absolutely no integrity r164

My only comment is that this behavior is becoming more and more normalized the longer it goes on. Try and imagine Obama doing one scandal, and then you realize that need for decorum was only 14 months ago. I also will note there are thousands of rich white men supporting this effort to move America to a corrupt corporate nation. Waiting until November brings grave risks they don’t care about because they are winning

In addition to having no integrity, Faux also don't want to lose him because they really don't have much else. He's a stupid, fucking moron, but he's their stupid, fucking moron, and they're going to keep him.

Unless something else comes out. But journalistic integrity is a standard they want to hold others up to. Themselves, not so much.

[quote]Russians have something on Comey

Lordy, I hope there are tapes!

R152 I think it's been slow in here because a lot of the posters don't pay. We have the occasional trolls, which are usually pretty obvious, but I don't think we've had the issues that some of the other threads have had.

Just remember, when you see a troll, don't engage. Just ignore their idiotic comment and they'll move on to a different thread.

Nunes is a nitwit who has be obstructing from the get-go.

Paul Ryan and company allowed, even facilitated, it.

Funny how when James @Comey writes a book about the 2016 election and how he lost his dream job and drank wine nobody tells him to go walk in the woods and keep quiet.

I like 85 year olds who like to talk

R172, Goldberg is just volunteering information about what he discussed with Trump in a phone call that arguably involved legal advice? That's cold. Obviously, no one feels a shred of loyalty to Trump.

It's a whole gang of cannibals and when push comes to shove, they will eat each other. When the critical button is pushed, they will stand in line and try to be the one who shouts loudest. That part will be entertaining, anyway.

[quote]Goldberg is just volunteering information about what he discussed with Trump in a phone call that arguably involved legal advice?

He even showed the reporter emails between himself and orange's lawyer.

I assume they're about to try some 8th-grade plot to frame Cohen for the campaign's partnership with the Russian government.

One of the clearest signs is witnessing all the rats leaving the sinking ship, lest they get caught in the whorehouse raid.

I do hate the fact that, out of the 57 things we can nail Trumpet on, his dalliances and corrupt payoffs with a porno bimbo turned whistleblower May be what brings him down.

Hate having someone’s poor work performance and social depravity be trumped by his off the clock gives.

Off the clock vices

Has anyone identified the creep in the Stormy Daniels sketch yet? I haven't heard a thing. You'd think with the whole country seeing that sketch, he would have turned up by now.

There's been some Twitter chatter that the guy in the sketch looks similar to the Mar-a-Lago security chief.

You’re welcome, R178.

That’s him alright!

Daaaaaamn!

I want to see the true evil be indicted: Corey L, D. Nunez, Trey G. Perp walk them all.

This will be a wonderful archive.

Trump retires Jan 21 2019 and Pence has 10 years.

Mueller has nothing.

Oh look, the trolls are back. It was a nice quiet day anyway.

Trump's tweet about the sketch: "A sketch years later about a nonexistent man. A total con job, playing the Fake News Media for Fools (but they know it)!"

I don't think Avenatti ever really expected to find the man who threatened Stormy. It was a ruse, and nothing legal could probably be done anyway. But Avenatti got what he wanted. To completely rile and further unhinge Trump.

And Avenatti just happens to be so fucking hot as well!

r184, are you talking jail time?

Trump could retire anytime but the criminal indictments will continue. He will just be more powerless without Executive Privilege.

Nice try Dimi

I am a non-paying member, and this is the first time I've been able to post in 2 days. It looks like the purge/lock out is over.

We can now expect more responses from non-paying contributors. Unfortunately, we can also expect more trolls.

The sketch looks like Young Doctor Kildare.

Mueller possessed and will provide Russia receipts rat soon and cast the net wide enough to include Mr. & Mrs. McConnell, Pence, Javanka, Nunes, Ryan, and Bannon, as well as Hannity, NRA, Junior and the whole weasleous treasonous lot, even Sarah HS (who btw has yet to obtain security clearance). I think this is going down before Shitler can take his special brand of diplomacy and smear it all over Kim Jong Un.

Yay, we can all post again.

Boo, you can all post again

How is Sarah involved? Why does she not have clearance? Interesting.

Dang I hope r190 is correct

[quote]How is Sarah involved? Why does she not have clearance? .

She failed the weigh-in.

A tsunami of indictments needs to be released on the entire tRump crime family, and ALL their fucking lackeys, SOON. The orange asshole should not be given the opportunity to stack the Supreme court, or nominate any more of his thoroughly corrupt 'friends' to any more positions in Washington. Cheetolini's 'draining the swamp' has turned Washington into a filthy, fetid, stinking sewer.

I'm sure the Concern Trolls from Russia will also commence again.

They are worse than the alt-right.

Trump's goons are threatening Rosenstein with impeachment if he doesn't hand over documents on the Russia probe and Hillary Clinton's email investigation.

Rosenstein doesn't get "impeached." He gets fired. My personal prediction is that Trump is waiting to see whether the Russian attempts to hack the mid terms will work out. If the Midterms allow the GOP to keep control over the House Trump will not care "how it looks" he will fire Rosenstein with impunity and then allow the next DAG to limit Mueller's ability to investigate. If that doesn't satisfy him, he will fire everyone. Sessions, the new DAG and Mueller. and we can all scream massacre and nothing will happen. If the Dems manage to take the House and gain seats in the Senate, Rosenstein will be gone the day after. Boom. I think Mitchell is placating he Senators by telling them to "lets gt through these mid terms then evaluate our position. Mitchell is great at stalling things.

I think we need to focus on a couple things while we wait for Mueller. These Midterms are important yes, but focusing on Congress is only half of it. We really need to focus on the state legislatures, and state governments. That's where we get fucked. And we need to be going after the whole voting thing right now. In fact it's almost too late because the registration deadlines are fast approaching at the end of April for the primaries. I think in a lot of states the Far Left is competing with more moderate Dems and if the candidates who a re too far Left win the primaries they will have a much more difficult time winning against the GOP. This is especially true in statewide Senate and Governor's races. Pick any state where there's a governor's race and check it out.

Suckabee possibly has been privy to situations involving key players' nefarious interactions, conversations, intentions, and her own part in obstructing justice with her blatant er-umm falsifications re the truth, as much as Sean Spicer or maybe Hope Hicks. I imagine her security clearance hangup has something to do with matters of personal finance--maybe a credit or repo issue. She had only recently fallen off the turnip truck when she bounced and landed in Trumplandia. She will most likely roll over and squeal like a pig, as will Cohen when the nut cutting is imminent.

Sarah might be asked to talk to Mueller about her own knowledge of what went down on the plane when Hope Hicks and Trump were trying to draft a statement to protect Donnie Jr. Other than that I doubt she knows anything. Now, Kelly Anne is a different story. She could have worn a wire for Mueller.

[quote]We really need to focus on the state legislatures, and state governments.

Couldn’t agree more. Government grows from the roots up. Get involved at the state level. Get involved in city politics.

Trump can’t burn the country down if there are enough states out there to resist.

[quote]Obviously, no one feels a shred of loyalty to Trump.

And nor should they, since loyalty is a quality his sociopathy can only see as a weakness, to be exploited at whim.

So Drumpf was asked if he's going to try to fire Rosenstein and Mueller and his response was, "People have been saying I was going to fire them for 3 months and they're still here...."

Which, if history proves accurate... he's going to try to fire them next week.

The thing is we know that Trump has tried to fire Mueller twice, so it is ridiculous thing to say.

Wow. I just watched his press conference from Mar-a-Lago. Completely unhinged when the subject of the Russia probe came up. He went through his litany of “greatest hits” as per usual. But they really sounded especially desperate this time around.

I mean, really about Hillary’s servers and John Podesta? And to claim that he has been cleared of all wrongdoing by the House Intelligence Committee (headed by lapdog sycophant Devin Nunes) is just laughable.

Trump stated “no collusion” five times in answer to one question. Then claimed that “we all know that”, or similar.

He added to no collusion, “except by the Democrats”. Why doesn’t someone give a press conference to call him “a moron”? To say his argument is childlike, and even children who say “ no I’m not but you are”, know the argument is too stupid to work.

I have Deplorable family, and each day I lose more respect for them.

As for focus on the States, we need to focus everywhere. I don’t think the job is so big that some area must be forfeited for others.

I will add, though, that we NEED the States as the census is upcoming and the state legislatures will determine the country’s direction for the next ten years. In 2000, the Right had outsized influence.

Where did you watch the press conference? MSNBC is talking about North Korea.

I watched the Mar-a-Lago press conference on Ari Melber’s show last night.

Also, I ran into this blonde reporter who I’ve seen on “The Beat” and other msnbc shows before on the Metro this morning. I recognized her immediately and told her that I loved her reporting for which she thanked me. Unfortunately I don’t know her name but she is quite beautiful.

I’d instantly blow a load if Michael Cohen turned on Dear Leader.

And oddly enough, I’d like to see shit head Hannity, McConnell, Ryan and Don Jr in orange jump suits before they drag away Pence and Trump.

[quote]Rosenstein doesn't get "impeached." He gets fired.

Trump can fire him; Congress has to impeach him. Congressional Republicans are indeed suggesting that they might impeach him if he doesn't comply with their document requests.

don't forget Jivanka

Cohen will never flip on Trump....not because of Trump, but because of the mob connections.....hed be a dead man walking.

[quote] Also, I ran into this blonde reporter who I’ve seen on “The Beat” and other msnbc shows before on the Metro this morning. I recognized her immediately and told her that I loved her reporting for which she thanked me. Unfortunately I don’t know her name but she is quite beautiful

Oh, no. Was it Milo’s buddy? Olivia Nuzzi?

Now you can all relax and know all is fine.

Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio says Trump doesn't lie.

What a relief!

[quote]Cohen will never flip on Trump....not because of Trump, but because of the mob connections.....hed be a dead man walking.

You are aware that hundreds of actual made men--real hard-core mobsters and not blowhard pussies like Cohen--have flipped before and turned on their mafia associates?

That was the point of orange's 85-year-old lawyer talking about Cohen. That it happens ALL THE TIME when they're facing real jail time. They do the math and testify.

No, R215. It wasn’t her.

r217....really ?.....with all the active, recent reports that have come out of "lawyers" tripping and falling out of 5th floor windows or committing suicide by packing themselves in suitcases ?......the "mob" he deals with doesnt give a fuck what the Italians do......

I was researching Galliano and ran across this fun fact:

Right-wing radio screech Alex Jones refers to Sean Hannity as "Harvey Wallbanger."

[quote]Trump stated “no collusion” five times in answer to one question.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks. Trump's denial is all-consuming. It has to be, so he can function at all. Mythomaniacs believe their own lies.

Confirmation Mueller is looking at Manafort as a back channel to Russia for election meddling in 2016......

Jake Tapper is reporting that the Justice Department is turning over the Comey memos to Congress today, which means Republicans will be on Fox tonight leaking selected portions and Trump will get them in full by this evening.

I fucking hate every personin the JD and intelligence community who will not stand up to these traitors. Mueller needs to make a big move and fast.

If one believes Lindsey Graham stands for doing the right thing thing, note this. Lindsey has announced his support for Trump being re-elected in 2020.

The media needs to shut their mouths about Lindsey being so principled and serves as a counter to Trump's troubling actions.

Lindsey will sometimes give anti-Trump lip service, but never more than that. He is a loyal foot soldier, if you don't realize that you aren't paying attention to his actual votes.

[quote]He is a loyal foot soldier, if you don't realize that you aren't paying attention to his actual votes.

He (and Flake and Corker et al) have problems with Trump's style, not his ruinous policies.

Axios says Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein told President Trump last week at the White House that he "isn't a target of any part" of the Mueller probe, Bloomberg reports, citing two people familiar with the matter.t

Look I trust the Senatrice as far as I can throw her and all her petticoats, but saying she'll support Trump in 2020 is basic survival 101. If she didn't say that, there would be all kinds of drama around her from her fellow wingnuts and Trump. And if we know anything about La Senatrice, she has those "Tara" survival instinct honed to perfection.

r227...hes not....hes already been determined to be the perpetrator.

R229 I hope you’re right. I know there are a lot of nervous nelly’s on this thread, but it’s stories like this that makes them nervous.

Rudy Guiliani in talks to join Trump's legal team.

[quote] Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein told President Trump last week at the White House that he "isn't a target of any part" of the Mueller probe

A brilliant strategy on Rod's part. He should keep telling him that. It has already been established that Mueller told tRump's lawyers that he isn't a target of the investigation but rather is a subject of it. As any prosecutor will tell you, the difference between the two can be paper thin. So, I hope that Rosenstein keeps telling Orange Cheetolini just that -- right up until the very end.

r231 that would be a huge conflict of interest

r231....good....keep them together so they all go down at once......

Are we sure it’s a strategy and not just the truth? I have no doubt that Trump is in bed with the worst of the Russian mob, but I can’t help but remember how corrupt DC and Republicans can be. I would love to get even the tiniest info or leak that will confirm that Mueller is on to him.

Giuliani is probably looking to establish attorney client privilege to protect himself.

R235, no, that is not a good idea. In fact, it's a very bad one.

Giuliani might be a fact witness against Trump. I don't see how he could represent Trump.

r237....witness ?......hes a fucking accomplice.

Rudy could at least be an unindicted co-conspirator; being an active part of the Trump campaign. Rudy blabbering about his contacts with the NYC FBI office, and, highly questionable behavior by pre-announcing that HRC will be further investigated; indicates a huge conflict of interest by serving on Trump's legal team. It is unethical. R236 has a point per motive.

OK. Since this keeps coming up on various threads, I thought I'd share this with you. Vote hacking to change the resuts : It's easy to do, they did it, and now we have Trump.

My company was talking about getting Rudy to speak at a Summit in May. Like it was a good thing. My colleagues and I just sort of looked at each other said, I'm not so sure that is a good thing. Isn't he a foreign agent?

That's a nice little racket Don and Rudy are trying to cook up. They can talk about all the evidence and claim attorney-client privilege.

And I'm Nelly #2 because there is a literal foreign agent sitting in the Oval Office and Rosenstein and Wray caving into Dairy Devin every time he threatens them doesn't fill me with hope.

I think the Trump team is adding RG as a way to see what the Special Counsel has on him because Mueller may be required to advise about conflicts. That’s the only way this makes sense to me.

[quote] Are we sure it’s a strategy and not just the truth? I have no doubt that Trump is in bed with the worst of the Russian mob, but I can’t help but remember how corrupt DC and Republicans can be. I would love to get even the tiniest info or leak that will confirm that Mueller is on to him.

[R235] As I mentioned in one of our first threads on this topic, I've known both Rod Rosenstein and Bob Mueller since the 1990s when I worked in the Clinton/Reno Justice Department. Both of them are men of great integrity and I have the utmost respect for them. I trust them to do the right thing, and I think that is what they are attempting to do under very difficult and trying circumstances. I also know one of the lawyers on Mueller's team, and she is also a person of superior intellect and ethics that are beyond reproach.

Mueller runs a tight ship, so don't be looking for that tiny leak to confirm that he's on to Trump. He'll let the indictments and his report do the talking for him.

Giuliani is confirmed as on the legal team per Wash Post. Just unreal. I don't doubt he isn't mentioned in Cohen's stash.

Isn’t mentioned, R245, or IS mentioned in Cohen’s stash?

What's is the point of Rosenstein and Mueller keeping everything sealed only for Trump's associates going through their findings and then leaking edited versions of it that fits their narrative being the first to pollute the minds of the general public with lies?

R245 I don't know for sure. But he was chummy with the FBI office and the retired FBI guys - and he seemed to know ahead of time about the emails. He talked about it. Now whether Cohen mentions all that somewhere in his files is anybody's guess. At the very least Guiliani has a huge conflict of interest - but that doesn't seem to exist in Trump's White House.

Giuliani jumping on a sinking ship. Hope he dies in jail.

For Trump conflict of interest only means not being loyal to him.

Is Giuliani any good? As an attorney, I mean?

America’s Mayor.

R251, in my experience, he's just ok. He's not particularly eloquent or incisive. A lot of his best-known convictions were overturned on appeal.

It's been 30 years since he done any lawyering and he's never dome the kind that Cheetolini needs

Rudy Giuliani joins the legal team!

Taking leave of absence from his day job so he can beat up on Mueller.

GIuliani is practically senile. Having him on the team prevents him from testifying. That's all I can think of. I don't believe Giuliani will be a very effective lawyer. Maybe he will have connections so he thinks he can figure out insider stuff. Giuliani is way overrated. He was 20 yrs. ago ad he is now. Most every thing Trump et al are doing is for PR, and political purposes nothing to do with the law.

What I find interesting is that Trump is giving people the impression he and the GOP are getting more agressive by fighting the FBI, DOJ, and waging an agressive campaign attacking McCabe, Clinton, etc. It's designed to help bring out the base and make sure the GOP voters are galvanized to gt out and vote. It's theater.

Guiliani started out as a prosecutor. Put some mobsters away. A long time ago though. I just read that he worked with Mueller somewhere along the line. And if he's kept some friendships, it could help Trump I guess. But he doesn't know when to shut his mouth. And he doesn't seem well. Goofy eyes.

[quote]saying she'll support Trump in 2020 is basic survival 101. If she didn't say that, there would be all kinds of drama around her from her fellow wingnuts and Trump.

There are tons of other Republicans who won't commit one way or the other. It's all over the news today.

Honestly, I wouldn’t care if Trump didn’t go to jail if only the most fair & just result could happen —that Trump and his family lost all of their money. Imagine Ivanka having to shop at Dress Barn. Don Jr having to drive a used Honda. Trump’s grandchildren going to public school. Eric having to pay money to golf somewhere. Vacations in upstate NY campgrounds. Calling an Uber. Taking a bus. Drinking 711 coffee.

....and yet, a lot of Republicans are quitting. That really tells you that voters don’t like Trump.

But I don’t like this business, that Trump is officially “not” a target of the investigation. That is very worrisome. If only Canada had clement weather.

And yes, Kushner Company is hit with federal subpoena.

It's going to be an interesting November. My feeling is a lot of Republicans who are not running are fed up with DC and Trump (or got caught in scandals), but also a lot of them are probably fearing challenges from the far right... maybe they live in districts where there is no middle ground. It is really strange that a slew of Republicans aren't running for re-election. It's not like the Dems are doing the same thing.

I think adding GHOULiani to the legal team is great news. Yes, he's losing it. Attorney/client privilege? Get him on the news with the right interviewer, even a Fox interviewer, and he'll slip and tell all. Can't wait!!

I'm thinking Guiliani may very well make things worse for Trump. Especially if he thinks this prior connection to Mueller gives him some inroads with him to make the investigation go easier on anyone (yes, I think Rudy is full enough of his own hubris to think so).

Ah am known for my lip service among the very young pages and their friends.

I feel hopeless today, that the Mueller investigation finds nothing or gets put out to pasture before the truth comes out about Trump and his gang of crooks. I need something big to happen tomorrow-an indictment, an arrest, another porn star who is really a dude, a reporter who has pictures of Trump kicking a puppy or pushing over an elderly lady in the crosswalk. I want so badly for him to be humiliated and tarred and feathered and run out of town but the wait is endless and fruitless

LIGHTEN UP, FRANCIS!

It's not really about you, r266, and your 1960s hausfrau soap opera attachments, is it?

Seriously, R268, so everyone's a frau now because they're worried about Trump getting away with everything? We're watching Trump and the Republican party destroy this country... and in case you haven't noticed, he's pretty much getting away with it!!! Sorry if we're getting a little impatient.

Toughen up Mary ! You don't win wars by being a chicken and a pansy.

The road is long with the Deplorables, you cannot afford to be scared.

Seems to me the whole thing is finally unraveling - let Trump do his damn job.

I really fucking hope you meant to type Mueller, R271.

Agree that Rudy is 99% PR. He is already making outlandish promises like the investigation will be wrapped up in two weeks

Oh good, the Reddit Bro Trolls are here to get personal. Guess what fellas, No one wants to fuck you.

Give R 266 a break

There is every reason to be concerned about the outcome of this I want a fking raid EVERY GODAMN DAY

Nope {R271] - I meant TRUMP!!! Mainstream media is feeding Americans a bunch of big fat lies about Trump and his presidency. Yes, we can do without SOME of the tweets - like the ones that are name-calling and demeaning - but in this environment how else is he going to get his message out because media will not give him a fair shot. I believe he is crazy like a fox and knows exactly what he is doing - how else would he be getting North Korea to the table when no other president has been able to do so in the last 68 years. There is good and bad in every administration and you must read and listen to EVERYTHING in order to form a rational opinion. Being an American is a priviledge and everyone is welcome here but they must follow the laws. Trumpie is trying to elevate every American's life and in doing so there will be more room for legal immigration because we are going to need the skilled labor. He is a businessman who is getting things done - more than any other first year president - even with the do-nothing Congress.

Before it all hits the fan, can we just agree to FF the troll and move on instead of arguing with it? Please?

I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT MUELLER'S TEAM DID NOT OBTAIN A FISA WARRANT TO WIRETAP COHEN (HOT MIC). HE HAS BEEN UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR MONTHS FOR CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, AND THERE PROBABLY WAS SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE TO OBTAIN A WARRANT. IF THAT IS TRUE, TRUMP'S RECORDINGS WITH COHEN WILL BE IN MUELLER'S TEAM'S HANDS. THAT PROBABLY PROVIDED ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE TO OBTAIN A WARRANT TO SEARCH COHEN'S OFFICE, HOTEL AND HOME. I THINK THE LARD ASS IS TOO STUPID TO REFRAIN FROM TALKING TO COHEN SINCE HE BELIEVES HE CANNOT BE SURVEILLED, AND I THINK COHEN IS TO STUPID TO THINK HE WILL BE SURVEILLED AS TRUMP'S ATTORNEY, AND, BESIDES, HE PROBABLY BELIEVES THEIR CONVERSATIONS COULD BE SUBJECT TO ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE. THAT'S A JOKE WHEN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OR FRAUD IS BEING COMMITTED, AND IN FACT, COHEN MAY NEVER HAVE QUALIFIED AS TRUMP'S ATTORNEY BASED ON THE WORK HE CARRIED OUT FOR TRUMP. WE SHALL SEE.

FF is your friend, folks.

I fucking hate Chris Hayes....every time he mention the Steele Dossier, he prefaces it with "most of it is unverified"......fuck him....probably 2/3 has been verified already BY THE PUBLIC itself.

R280 - what EXACTLY has been verified?

Guiliani has revealed his stunning legal strategy!

911!

The Republican Convention and the changing of the platform...the secret meetings the Russian ambassador was having...Russian money being funneled into the RNC....Trump aides meeting with operatives throughout Europe (Papadapoulos, Page, Cohen)....the hackers...wikileaks...the Trump Tower meeting...........the list goes on......Dont you pay attention r281 ? Did you read the Dossier ? Its interesting....and uncanny just how much has been verified by public means............Thats why were certain Trump and his gang of thieves are going down....FOR GOOD.

R280 - Crickets? Not all of Trumps supporters are Deplorables - some of us are educated and have developed critical listening and reading. When I hear "sources say..." a giant red flag goes up. When Comey is being interviewed by Stephie and he says "it's possible" Russian hookers peed on a bed - I suppose it is possible - but today on Jake he says "it's unlikely". We must listen carefully because the media is feeding us a bunch of untruths.

Did we already post this?

The only thing set in stone is the 10 Commandments - the bible and everything else is subject to interpetation and current viewpoints. All of those meetings with the Russians were par for the course - it happens during elections. Do you remember Obama saying on a live mic to Putin that after the election he would have more latitude to work with him? It's just stuff that goes on - nothing nefarious.

McCabe is going down - I will remind all of you that Comey is the one that indicted MARTHA STEWART for lying to the Feds - McCabe has been caught in lies under oath 4 times!

WTF is a Trump supporter doing on a gay website?

Far from being set in stone, R286, the Ten Commandments exist in several different versions—not entirely consistent with each other—in the Bible. See Exodus 20:2-17, Deuteronomy 5:6-21, and Leviticus 19:3-4, 11-13, 15-16, and 30-32.

social liberal fiscal conservative

[quote]Not all of Trumps supporters are Deplorables - some of us are educated and have developed critical listening and reading.

Clearly not or you wouldn't be a Trump supporter.

r284....my response was the one before yours.....and sorry sunshine...if you support Trump, then you are a deplorable, and any attempt to validate him shows how reprehensible you are. I dont buy into that bullshit, "were not all deplorables".....YES, YOU FUCKING ARE. Trump is a conman, a racist, a bigot, hes vile, hes crude, he has no respect for anyone....even himself....hes a misogynist, hes an idiot, hes a thief, an adulterer, and hes a liar.....shall I go on ?........and for anyone who considers themselves a decent human to support such filth shows how you are too stupid to live, let alone vote. You are an embarrassment for America, and you should hang your head in shame every fucking day anyone, here or around the world, has to suffer from any of Trumps actions. You bare direct responsibility for what you and your ilk have done to this country. I hope to God your taxes triple, you lose your healthcare, your social security and your medicare when you are afflicted by the plague. You can suck Trumps micro penis for all I care.....

I was going to respond to r276 but, really, what can you possibly say to someone so deluded and ignorant? Someone, for example, who doesn't know about the history of negotiations between North Korea and the United States. Or who has absolutely no idea how truly unproductive Trump's first year was and how little he accomplished.

All you can do is shake your head and move on.

Keep American Great 2020!!!

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Get comfy, and make yourselves at home.

This was as of the end of December!

Jobs and the economy •tPassage of the tax reform bill providing $5.5 billion in cuts and repealing the Obamacare mandate. •tIncrease of the GDP above 3 percent. •tCreation of 1.7 million new jobs, cutting unemployment to 4.1 percent. •tSaw the Dow Jones reach record highs. •tA rebound in economic confidence to a 17-year high. •tA new executive order to boost apprenticeships. •tA move to boost computer sciences in Education Department programs. •tPrioritizing women-owned businesses for some $500 million in SBA loans. Killing job-stifling regulations •tSigned an Executive Order demanding that two regulations be killed for every new one creates. He beat that big and cut 16 rules and regulations for every one created, saving $8.1 billion. •tSigned 15 congressional regulatory cuts. •tWithdrew from the Obama-era Paris Climate Agreement, ending the threat of environmental regulations. •tSigned an Executive Order cutting the time for infrastructure permit approvals. •tEliminated an Obama rule on streams that Trump felt unfairly targeted the coal industry. Fair trade •tMade good on his campaign promise to withdraw from the Trans-Pacific Partnership. •tOpened up the North American Free Trade Agreement for talks to better the deal for the U.S. •tWorked to bring companies back to the U.S., and companies like Toyota, Mazda, Broadcom Limited, and Foxconn announced plans to open U.S. plants. •tWorked to promote the sale of U.S products abroad. •tMade enforcement of U.S. trade laws, especially those that involve national security, a priority. •tEnded Obama’s deal with Cuba. Boosting U.S. energy dominance •tThe Department of Interior, which has led the way in cutting regulations, opened plans to lease 77 million acres in the Gulf of Mexico for oil and gas drilling. •tTrump traveled the world to promote the sale and use of U.S. energy. •tExpanded energy infrastructure projects like the Keystone XL Pipeline snubbed by Obama. •tOrdered the Environmental Protection Agency to kill Obama’s Clean Power Plan. •tEPA is reconsidering Obama rules on methane emissions. Protecting the U.S. homeland •tLaid out new principles for reforming immigration and announced plan to end "chain migration," which lets one legal immigrant to bring in dozens of family members. •tMade progress to build the border wall with Mexico. •tEnded the Obama-era “catch and release” of illegal immigrants. •tBoosted the arrests of illegals inside the U.S. •tDoubled the number of counties participating with Immigration and Customs Enforcement charged with deporting illegals. •tRemoved 36 percent more criminal gang members than in fiscal 2016. •tStarted the end of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival program. •tDitto for other amnesty programs like Deferred Action for Parents of Americans. •tCracking down on some 300 sanctuary cities that defy ICE but still get federal dollars. •tAdded some 100 new immigration judges. Protecting communities •tJustice announced grants of $98 million to fund 802 new cops. •tJustice worked with Central American nations to arrest and charge 4,000 MS-13 members. •tHomeland rounded up nearly 800 MS-13 members, an 83 percent one-year increase. •tSigned three executive orders aimed at cracking down on international criminal organizations. •tAttorney General Jeff Sessions created new National Public Safety Partnership, a cooperative initiative with cities to reduce violent crimes.

Accountability •tTrump has nominated 73 federal judges and won his nomination of Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court. •tOrdered ethical standards including a lobbying ban. •tCalled for a comprehensive plan to reorganize the executive branch. •tOrdered an overhaul to modernize the digital government. •tCalled for a full audit of the Pentagon and its spending. Combatting opioids •tFirst, the president declared a Nationwide Public Health Emergency on opioids. •tHis Council of Economic Advisors played a role in determining that overdoses are underreported by as much as 24 percent. •tThe Department of Health and Human Services laid out a new five-point strategy to fight the crisis. •tJustice announced it was scheduling fentanyl substances as a drug class under the Controlled Substances Act. •tJustice started a fraud crackdown, arresting more than 400. •tThe administration added $500 million to fight the crisis. •tOn National Drug Take Back Day, the Drug Enforcement Agency collected 456 tons. Protecting life •tIn his first week, Trump reinstated and expanded the Mexico City Policy that blocks some $9 billion in foreign aid being used for abortions. •tWorked with Congress on a bill overturning an Obama regulation that blocked states from defunding abortion providers. •tPublished guidance to block Obamacare money from supporting abortion. Helping veterans •tSigned the Veterans Accountability and Whistleblower Protection Act to allow senior officials in the Department of Veterans Affairs to fire failing employees and establish safeguards to protect whistleblowers. •tSigned the Veterans Appeals Improvement and Modernization Act. •tSigned the Harry W. Colmery Veterans Educational Assistance Act, to provide support. •tSigned the VA Choice and Quality Employment Act of 2017 to authorize $2.1 billion in additional funds for the Veterans Choice Program. •tCreated a VA hotline. •tHad the VA launch an online “Access and Quality Tool,” providing veterans with a way to access wait time and quality of care data. •tWith VA Secretary Dr. David Shulkin, announced three initiatives to expand access to healthcare for veterans using telehealth technology. Promoting peace through strength •tDirected the rebuilding of the military and ordered a new national strategy and nuclear posture review. •tWorked to increase defense spending. •tEmpowered military leaders to “seize the initiative and win,” reducing the need for a White House sign off on every mission. •tDirected the revival of the National Space Council to develop space war strategies. •tElevated U.S. Cyber Command into a major warfighting command. •tWithdrew from the U.N. Global Compact on Migration, which Trump saw as a threat to borders. •tImposed a travel ban on nations that lack border and anti-terrorism security. •tSaw ISIS lose virtually all of its territory. •tPushed for strong action against global outlaw North Korea and its development of nuclear weapons. •tAnnounced a new Afghanistan strategy that strengthens support for U.S. forces at war with terrorism. •tNATO increased support for the war in Afghanistan. •tApproved a new Iran strategy plan focused on neutralizing the country’s influence in the region. •tOrdered missile strikes against a Syrian airbase used in a chemical weapons attack. •tPrevented subsequent chemical attacks by announcing a plan to detect them better and warned of future strikes if they were used. •tOrdered new sanctions on the dictatorship in Venezuela. Restoring confidence in and respect for America •tTrump won the release of Americans held abroad, often using his personal relationships with world leaders. •tMade good on a campaign promise to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. •tConducted a historic 12-day trip through Asia, winning new cooperative deals. On the trip, he attended three regional summits to promote American interests. •tHe traveled to the Middle East and Europe to build new relationships with leaders. •tTraveled to Poland for the annual. G-20 meeting where he pushed again for funding of women entrepreneurs.

LOTS of Fake Concern Trolls whining here tonight.

They pretend to have no clue about Mueller's methodical approach, one even saying it was "useless!" - Fake Concern Troll.

R290 = im a republican but I need the business.

Before responding please take a minute and think about how some people are actively trying to get you to engage in them. You're far more productive if you don't.

Just sit back and take comfort in knowing that if they're increasing their efforts it means something they don't want to come out is about to.

I think the little pukes are energized by Rudy coming on board and by the fact that they are fucking over McCabe. They smell blood and they think they will be sharks. But they are not sharks. They are maggots and that smell is not blood it's shit. They think by throwing a lot of shit against the walls some of it will stick.

Trump and his gang don't have a legal strategy. They have a lot of PR tactics. But they seem oblivious to the rule of Law and it is my belief that it'll come back to bite them in the asses really hard and they will bleed out. Rudy isn't going to rescue Trump he's going to help hang him.

A Trump lawyer will be on MSNBC tonight at 10, saying Cohen case could lead to impeachment.

Giuliani lives in the same fucking bubble as Trump and his cabal. Does Rudy think Mueller is stupid? Does he no remember his own direct role in all of this? Does he think the public has forgotten his cackling in delight as he (correctly) "predicted" one revelation after another? As if he had an inside track? Does Rudy think Mueller does not know how he has spent the past few years and where his money comes from?

Destroying the environment and being a Putie sycophant due to blackmail and money laundering is not noble. Some call it treason.

FF is your friend.

Comey memos leak:

R307 is that even real? I mean, Daily Wire and all.

But the comments from the Deplorables are fascinating:

[quote]Donna Gasper @Foxworthy And so what? Private citizen right? He had an affair.... we hired him knowing he was not perfect! He is human and he is not a Choir Boy or a Sunday School Teacher! If this is all you Dems have you are finished!

[quote]This was as of the end of December!

LOL.... Dear heart, whatever happened to all of those "critical listening and reading" skills that you claim to have developed? You really are one of the most gullible people I've seen on DL. You swallow blatant propaganda unquestioningly without even once asking yourself whether any of it makes sense.

As noted above, there's no point in engaging you; you are simply not capable of intelligent, informed discussion.

ummm - he was a private citizen - are you trying to compare him to Clinton who was shoving a cigar up Monica's who-ha in the Oval Office while Arafat was waiting in the Rose Garden - and then lied to the American public that he did not have sexual relations with her? No one cares about Stormy Daniels. Period.

CNBC is also reporting on some of it, that Trump says to Comey that Flynn has serious judgement issues.

Really, dear? No one? Period?

Well, I guess that settles that. Our thread's resident deplorable has spoken. We can all move on now.

TalkingPointsMemo has them, as well.

Memos don't look good for Trump, Comey is very consistent in everything he says. Craziest shit so far: Trump wanted to jail reporters for at least a few days, until they gave up their sources.

I knew the trolls came out for a reason, I checked twitter and there was the Comey memos leak coming out, thanks trolls for being so obvious!

Comey just told Rachel even if the orange shit stain manages to fire Mueller it would be almost impossible to stop the investigation, given what he knows about the people in the FBI and the DOJ

R316 he said the same thing on Colbert.

But at the same time given what we know about the people in the FBI.... ahem. NY Office. ahem. Hillary's emails.

From a comment on another site:

[quote]If you didn’t see All In tonight, watch the replay later. Chris asked Chuck Rosenthal about the disclosure to Congress, and Rosenthal said it was a big mistake, set a bad precedent, and while he is “not a betting man,” he thinks the memos will be leaked now that Congress had them. Not one minute later, Chris says, “You’re not a betting man, but Im told in my ear that the AP has copies of the memos.”

Trump supporters secretly come here for this. More, more, more, daddy!

Rachel wanted to just hand off to Lawrence after the Comey interview and Lawrence just kept blathering on.

Rudy Giuliani advised Rosneft, the Russian oil company from the Dossier that met with Carter Page

The GOP probably thought they could spin the Comey memos in some negative way, but now that they’re out there for everyone to read, they can’t. And they’re pretty fucking damning (not that anyone still supporting Trump will care).

I find Comey to be very credible and his memo's back that up 100%. I guess the GOP was testing Rosenstein and probably thought he wouldn't release the memo's to them, but after reading them, it seems their plan has backfired.

Funny how there was so much trolling right before the leak and then basically nothing right after.

The deplorables can't get it through their thick skulls that what they call a mere sex scandal involves electoral crimes that in turn are the threads that, in all likelihood, unravel all kinds of financial crimes.

What could possibly be in the memos that show Comey to worse advantage than Trump? Why were Republicans so insistent that they be turned over (and have now apparently leaked them)?

Maybe a dem leaked them.

Any chance Mueller has a round of indictments for the NY office of the FBI?

That would turn some heads, no?

Well, I might still be a nelly but I'm no longer nervous. I should have known Devin would just absolutely own himself with another memo stunt, and he did. The memos say exactly what Comey said they would say. Pwn All The Things thinks the redacted answer to Flynn having a FISA warrant was yes.

I still don't like Republicans getting stuff by threatening the DOJ, but if Rosenstein actually played them, fine.

Damn it! I will be up all night preparing to spin and deflect this shit on Fox & Friends and the with Jake and/or Chris tomorrow. I'll have to resort to my old standby: filibustering about Hillary's,old Emails. I better get a fucking nice bonus.

[quote]and while he is “not a betting man,” he thinks the memos will be leaked now that Congress had them. Not one minute later, Chris says, “You’re not a betting man, but Im told in my ear that the AP has copies of the memos.”

That was the easiest bet in the world. Everyone knows that congressional committees are the leakiest leakers of all. I'm sure the Rethugs wanted to get the memos just so they can leak and then sic the propaganda machine aka Hannity & Co. to try to discredit them.

I love the poster at R295 and R319. Brilliant 👍🏼

I think someone from DOJ leaked them as a fuck you to congress......the DOJ was pressured into releasing them, and like the Nunes memo, they were going to be weaponized for political purposes.....Rosentstein probably said to have someone release them as soon as they were turned over to but the GOPs bubble and beat them to the punch rendering them useless.

^^^^burst^^^^

if everyone who hates this cunt actually votes in November, we'll be fine. if most people do the usual oh, shit, meant to do shit but couldn't be bothered thing, then, things might continue to suck.

David Frum said tonight on Lawrence O’D:

Trump told Comey that Putin had said to him, that Russia had the most beautiful hookers in the world. Frum said that Putin had actually said this on TV, and it was something Trump saw on TV, but later recalled it as if he was told this personally. Frum thought this was evidence of Trump living in his own delusional world.

Although, Pete Williams had a different take on the Putin comment on hookers, so it’s disputed exactly what was said and when and to whom.

sounds about right. trump lives entirely through the tv, and can't imagine a reality outside TV. he is the stupidest fuck to ever occupy that office, but nothing will ever change him.

I doubt it was from DOJ, R332. If it was, Nunes would've gone off about "LEAKS!".

It was probably Nunes who leaked them, and right on cue Cheeto is already tweeting about them showing "no collusion, no obstruction"

Delusional Donny at it again on twitter:

[quote]James Comey Memos just out and show clearly that there was NO COLLUSION and NO OBSTRUCTION. Also, he leaked classified information. WOW! Will the Witch Hunt continue?

can somebody be impeached just for stupid above and beyond the call of stupid?

Yeah, but you'd need a Congress with some backbone and some semblance of putting country above party. That doesn't apply to Congressional Republicans.

Urgh! Have a really intelligent client - well - otherwise intelligent! An engineer. Who’s been blathering on about how smart Trump is since before the election - but especially since. Because trump is rich - and he doesn’t think you could have that much money without being very smart. This guy - the engineeer! - is working for some big financial heavy hitters these days and think he’s just dazzled by dollars.

His rant yesterday was that no one had succeeded with NorithKorea using traditional diplomacy and that - as bullies - like all bullies! - you hafta be tough and show respect and he thinks everyone will be really surprised about how Trump will succeed where so many others have failed.

And there’s just no way NK would actually go to war...

Flames from the side of my face. Seriously.

engineers are the suck so often. they are "scientists" but they are always the ones most susceptible to the bullshit, whether it's creationism, or no climate change, or Trump is awesome. there is something that just makes a lot of engineers suck when it comes to actually thinking through real shit, and I would love to know what it is.

"'They [journalists] spend a couple days in jail, make a new friend, and they are ready to talk.' I laughed as I walked to the door..."

Indeed, so hilarious. You deserve every conversation you had to sit through about hookers and pee, Mr. Comey.

Trump may tweet that the memos show no collusion,....but they sure as hell sow conspiracy and probably treason......the memos say Preibus asked if Flynn was under a FISA warrant......the answer is redacted, but its assumed its "yes"....if so, every single conversation Flynn had, since at least the transition was taped.....the Russians, the oil deals, Trump, Bannon, Kushner, etc......they are all fucked.

Ive already posted this to a couple of other relevant threads - but I love it so much - and think it might put a big grin on lots of those glum little faces...

As I also mentioned on the other threads - salty language warning! - so don’t go playing it loudly at work - unless you have a very easygoing work environment surrounded by kindred spirits who have no problems with hearing ‘fuck’ amd ‘cunt’ sung loudly and with obvious relish...

It’s really clever tho. And gotta love a drag diva who actually sings - and very well! - rather than just lip-syncs...

Anyway - cheer ye all up! And spread the joy!

[quote]The only thing set in stone is the 10 Commandments - the bible and everything else is subject to interpetation and current viewpoints.

Honey, like we give a flying fuck about the deranged proclamations of your invisible sky fairy.

[quote]All of those meetings with the Russians were par for the course - it happens during elections.

Hey, what's a little conspiracy to defraud the United States on behalf of a foreign power between friends? We all did that in college, right?

Really? You're going to push that as a supposed fact with some connection to reality on planet earth? Srsly? And you think anybody with an IQ above 50 will believe you?

[quote]He is a businessman who is getting things done - more than any other first year president - even with the do-nothing Congress.

Oh honey, your learning curve for the next six months is gonna be fucking brutal.

He eats McDonalds, Tweets while taking a shit and binge watches Fox and Friends. I mean I know wingnuts like putting dimwitted cheerleaders in charge in the Oval Office, but seriously. We've got a dementia patient running the world's largest economy.

Rudy will find out soon enough that Mueller won’t end his Russia investigation without a deposition with Trump. Trump will perjure himself and that lays groundwork for impeachment. Plus the Cohen investigation will torpedo Trump. I heard the pee pre video is the most viewed piece of evidence in the history of the F B I

Interesting BBC report-Pittsburgh police riot control plans in the event that Mueller is fired.

So Trump is on record saying Putin told him Russia has the most beautiful hookers in the world. Why would Trump even have a conversation with Putin about hookers? Seriously. How does hookers as a topic even come up between two people who are not suppose to really know each other??

Youse people are too close and are so week to week. Mueller is playing the long game. If Pence were not hooked up in this mess, Mueller would have taken down Trump already. We have six months till the election. The best time for Mueller to roll out MAJOR indictments will be AFTER the next Congress is seated on 1-3-2019. Till then it will be no surprise if the heavens open and God announces that Trump is not a focus of the investigation. That will last till everything is set next January. My prediction, on January 4th, Mueller will announce that Trump is NOW a focus of the investigation.

[quote]The GOP probably thought they could spin the Comey memos in some negative way, but now that they’re out there for everyone to read, they can’t.

As the French say:

This is exactly that!

The FBI opened their investigation into Trump Campaign/Russian interference in July, 2016. In May or June of 2017 Mueller was appointed to take over the investigation as a Special Prosecutor. I t is almost May, 2018. I think some big fish are about to get fried and I think it'll wait until after the Mid Terms. After all, the FBI would hate to be accused of doing something to affect the outcome of the Midterms...wouldn't they?

Rudy is such a jackass. He's going to "negotiate" with Mueller? Really? That must mean Rudy thinks Trump is guilty of something because you never signal you're ready to negotiate unless charges are forthcoming. But aside from ignorant comments like that, I wish one of DL's legal people would tell us what they think of Rudy coming on board...or attempting to come on board. There is are obvious conflicts of interest and a real possibility that Rudy could be called as a witness. He was up to his neck in the Trump campaign and he has business interests with the same Gas Company in Russia that Carter Page was doing business with. My prediction is Rudy will make a few public comments, then fade.

R324 actually no! I’ve worked with engineers all my life in many different companies... while the VP types are conservative, and some engineers really are quite conservative, I found most of them to be surprisingly liberal and open minded for the most part. At my current company, Trump is resoundly hated, even by the VPs and CEO. It’s the logic part of their brain that helps.

^r342

[quote] But aside from ignorant comments like that, I wish one of DL's legal people would tell us what they think of Rudy coming on board...or attempting to come on board.

Rudy is a joke. He's a blowhard who is all bluff and bluster. Yes, Mueller knows him. And, I suspect that Mueller's opinion is similar: that Rudy is a fool and a jackass. He hasn't really practiced law in decades. He fancies himself a deal-maker, but, the suggestion that Rudy is going to come in and help close down the Russia probe in a few weeks is beyond ludicrous.

CNN: If House GOPers thought they were helping Trump by forcing the memo release, they may want to think again

"The documents written by the then-FBI director, detailing his interactions with Trump, present a contemporaneous and deeply unflattering view of a President throwing his weight around in his first days in the White House -- that at the very least seems highly inappropriate."

So do we think Giuliani was hired to “negotiate”? Does Trump really think he can do that?

Yeah, I'm sure Guliani will sidle up to Mueller with an envelope full of 20's and say, "Hey , buddy, how much to make this go away, you know what I'm sayin?"

I’m thinking also about the memo leak. I was wondering who got copies of the memos. They could have been leaked by a Democrat or an anti trump Republican. Did they go to a select group of House members?

IMO I just think from a tactical perspective, declaring you're there to negotiate because you used to know these guys, is not smart. And Mueller was still in the United States when Giuliani was on TV every other day extolling Trump's virtues and smearing Hillary. English is not Mueller's second language. He heard Rudy talk about the "big news' that was coming any minute. The indictment of Hillary. The Wiki leaks e-mail dumps. So I'm wondering if it's a tactic. Does Trump expect Mueller to tell them Rudy has a serious conflict of interest and can't e his lawyer, so they can then make a big deal out of it with their base? The whole thing smells bad.

I hope it was a Dem who leaked the Comey memos. It would show some real smarts and strategy on their part--instead of letting Nunes lie about what's in them and release misleading experts, just dump the whole thing right off the bat and undercut anything the GOP would try to do with them.

We'll probably never know for sure, but I imagine it was the IC that leaked the memos.

It had to be. His pardon of Scoots was an outright declaration of war. He won't win this thing.

Note this group of eleven Republican Congressmen.

It doesn't even include others such Devin Nunes, Mark Meadows, Jim Jordan, etc. This is not about being just a pro-Trump Congressmen, but those trying to abuse the judicial processes to keep DJT and cohorts from facing further inquiries that could lead to more indictments and perhaps impeachment.

It would be interesting to see a 'comprehensive list' of House Republicans who are ACTIVELY trying to undermine the Mueller investigation and/or advocating malicious prosecution of political opponents of DJT.

The House Democrats are not expressing a high degree of alarm about this. One would expect Democrats would be more vocal and confrontational over some very ongoing obstructing behavior by a number of House Republicans. While the minority, the Democrats have a lot of people that need to speak-up more to expose.

[quote] Rudy is a fool and a jackass. He hasn't really practiced law in decades. He fancies himself a deal-maker,

Birds of a feather....

Whoa what is this

^ Hot damn, the Dems flashing some cajones! This could be fun.

R367: You beat me to it!! HA! Another parallel criminal investigation into Russian collusion in NYC. Now, if Mueller / Rosenstein are fired, the investigation continues in NYC. If Trump issues pardons, folks go to prison in NYC. Go Dems!! Some balls, finally!!!

Well, this could be a bit of fun!

Somebody send for Kevin Costner!

My question is where the fuck are Jared and Ivanka? Haven't seen hide nor hair or any comments from them in awhile. Are they hiding in a Russian dacha?

R372 have you not been paying attention? Ivanka has been acting as SOS.

Well you can call her SoS if you want to, but as I understand it Pimp Daddy Don has promised her for one night only to Lil Kim, in exchange for Lil Kim promising to de nuclearize his country. Neither one of them expects Lil Kim to honor that pledge, but he did promise to video tape his night with Ivanka for Pimp Daddy Don to watch at some future date.

I'm counting down the minutes before we see Rudy featured as a guest on TV. So who gets him, Fox or CNN? I know you probably think Fox, but I'm not so sure.

those 11 reps better watch their backs. That bitch Claudia Tenney is in a close race. People Upstate aren't that stupid.

Claudia may be one of those women that gets a tingling sensation when it comes to thoughts of DJT. Nunes has it bad too.

After Comey released unclassified memos to the press somebody went back and marked parts of them confidential. So now they're going to try to put him in jail for leaking classified info.

Comey didn't release them..

It's also odd that the same exact thing happened to Hillary. Someone, somewhere went back after the fact and marked some of her emails classified.

Comey gave two unclassified emails to a friend who read them to the Times, I believe.

I was just going to post that, R380.

R375 Short answer: He's been on Fox throughout. Chris Cuomo will get the first CNN interview.

Long Answer: Guiliani has been a contributor on Fox throughout, (especially that cunt Jeanine Pirro), but now will probably appear more frequent. I suspect we’ll also see Chris Cuomo interview him on CNN. Chris practically has a family history with Guiliani from when his dad was governor of New York. Cuomo is great at getting Guiliani to relax and then getting him to spill info.

Attention is the whole reason Guiliani is obviously doing this. He never got over the hero worship during the 9/11 period, and has been desperately trying to recapture it ever since. But he’s a completely different person now. Most of his previous allies and friends have abandoned him. His current wife divorced him. Even his kids won’t speak to him. His daughter was a notable supporter of Hillary and displayed it prominently on her website. Whatever happened to his close buddy John McCain?

He’s now like the crazy old uncle with dementia who escaped from the Senior Home, and his family is just to fed up to keep going after him and putting him back.

Avenatti is talking from Los Angeles court (??) well somewhere in Los Angeles.

Love him <3

^^Avenatti is listed as a guest for tonight's Real Time with Bill Maher.

The Democratic Party is suing Don Jr. YES!!!

Tom Perez is finally showing some balls. Give it to them DNC !!

Sue them to oblivion!

Clinton made the feeble Rudy G look like the fool he has become, at the Al Smith Dinner in New York in early 2016.

There are other clips out there of Rudy G looking like he didn't know who was speaking or where he was.

R388 Thanks for posting.

Check out Seth Abramson:

Kyle Griffin...

[quote] Comey gave two unclassified emails to a friend who read them to the Times, I believe.

Sure, you believe. So it must be true and worthy of sharing. *rollingeyes*

I don't even bother to attach the Sure Jan gif for this one.

Great Ari Melber interview with The Art of the Deal ghost-writer Tony Schwartz:

I watched The Post last night. The comparisons between Nixon and Trump are totally appropriate. Except Nixon had to deal with ethical Republicans in Congress.

Nixon was to the left of Hillary Clinton. Nixon would have gotten us Universal Health Care if Ted Kennedy hadn't thwarted him.

R145, Lindbergh openly admired the Luftwaffe. Read a bit more on him. Played psycho "pranks" on people.** He made his then-pregnant wife fly on his bi-plane trick acts.

**One of which involved hiding his baby and telling the Mrs. that Junior had been kidnapped. Yes, he did that. Oddly prescient?

Charles Lindbergh was NOT actually Jimmy Stewart.

You're right, r395. And I would bet Teddy regretted making the perfect the enemy of the good, with all good intentions, for the rest of his life. He and everyone believed the US would get on board with the rest of the Western developed world, and soon.

On the other hand, it was repubs and not dems who decided to make health coverage a privelege for the wealthy and not a universal birthright, in the years since.

It's like the trolls aren't even trying.

Tweet:

"Ha! Fake Sketch nothing like guy Cohen hired for me! I mean, Fake-Hired! No threat! No collusion! Lyin' Leaker Comey!"

R381, nope. Richman made clear what he was given wasn't classified. Fox News just lied as usual.

[quote] All of those meetings with the Russians were par for the course - it happens during elections.

Says who?

You?

Give us your resume vis a vis working on presidential elections, please.

TIA

You Marys are so cute when your panties are in a bunch.

[quote] Nixon was to the left of Hillary Clinton. Nixon would have gotten us Universal Health Care if Ted Kennedy hadn't thwarted him.

It was Carter, not Nixon, who Kennedy thwarted regarding health insurance.

Nixon resigned before he could tackle health care. And who was It who brought Nixon down? A rightwing FBI agent. The funny thing is, deplorables have no reason to trust the FBI. But I won’t tell them why. (You know damn well they don’t know or care who brought down Nixon. To them it was “the librul media.”)

Given how the recent news got under the trolls' (Russian bots and alt right) skin ... how about "I Got Treason Under My Skin"?

[quote]It was Carter, not Nixon, who Kennedy thwarted regarding health insurance.

"Ted Kennedy, whom Nixon assumed would be his rival in the next election, made universal health care his signature issue. Kennedy proposed a single-payer, tax-based system. Nixon strongly opposed that on the grounds that it was un-American and would put all health care “under the heavy hand of the federal government.”

Instead, Nixon proposed a plan that required employers to buy private health insurance for their employees and gave subsidies to those who could not afford insurance. Nixon argued that this market-based approach would build on the strengths of the private system.

Over time, Kennedy realized his own plan couldn’t succeed. Opposition from the insurance companies was too great. So Kennedy dispatched his staffers to meet secretly with Nixon’s people to broker a compromise. Kennedy came close to backing Nixon’s plan, but turned away at the last minute, under pressure from the unions. Then Watergate hit and took Nixon down. Kennedy said later that walking away from that deal was one of the biggest mistakes of his life."

Nixon was to the left of Hillary ?? Err not at all. Hillary made a run for universal health back in the 90s, of course the men in congress shut it down because they didn't want a women telling them what to do.

jeez republicans ruin everything. From healthcare, to jobs, to the environment. What a worthless bunch.

Secretary of State? Give it to Ivanka. Girls are good at secretary jobs.

[quote] Kennedy said later that walking away from that deal was one of the biggest mistakes of his life."

Funny, he made the same mistake just a few years later with Carter and to this day carter hates Teddy Kennedy for it.

The fact is that we would have had comprehensive health care now had it not been for Ted Kennedy's deliberately blocking the legislation that I proposed," Carter said in the interview. "It was his fault. Ted Kennedy killed the bill." Carter cast his Democratic rival as spiteful. "He did not want to see me have a major success in that realm of life," Carter said.

Carter wrote at the time: "Kennedy continuing his irresponsible and abusive attitude, immediately condemning our health plan. He couldn't get five votes for his plan." Kennedy and Carter had competing health-care plans while Carter was president. Kennedy favored a more comprehensive approach that would have insured all Americans against health-care costs regardless of age or income. Carter backed a more moderate proposal that would have been phased in over several years.

Kennedy wanted health care to be his baby. He wanted his name on it. That’s why he turned down both Nixon’s and Carter’s plans. So now we have shitty health care and Teddy Kennedy’s name is known for....Chappaquidick.

Kennedy also paved the way for Ronald Reagan’s presidency by fracturing the Democratic Party in the 1980 election. Thanks, Teddy. Such a swell guy. All for his own ego.

[quote]the suggestion that Rudy is going to come in and help close down the Russia probe in a few weeks is beyond ludicrous.

The most scandal-riddled administration in American history, and its spokesholes, have been saying the investigation will be "done in a few weeks" since November 2017.

Apparently the Ghouliani exhumation is supposed to intimidate Mueller and distract from Cohen's legal games and a Farm Bill that guts the Clean Water Act and doubles 'projects' to clear cut national forest and wilderness areas.

[quote]My question is where the fuck are Jared and Ivanka?

How dare you!

You are only to subsidize their graft.

I mean empowerment of women and negotiation of Middle East peace.

[quote]That bitch Claudia Tenney is in a close race. People Upstate aren't that stupid.

In a radio interview shortly following the February 2018 Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Parkland, Florida that left 17 dead, Tenney said (without citing evidence), "It’s interesting that so many of these people that commit the mass murders end up being Democrats".

In a follow-up television interview on March 5, 2018, she was asked again about those claims and responded by saying: “It isn’t just Republicans who commit all these terrible crimes. ... All I’m saying is everybody is guilty equally,” before shouting "fake news!" and ending the interview.

[quote]Even his kids won’t speak to him.

That must be awkward, since his son works in the White House.

Giuliani is on the team so info from treasonous FBI agents can be passed on to Trump team under the cover of attorney client privilege. They're betting that Mueller's team and the feds would not pull with Giuliani what they did with Cohen.

I seriously doubt Mueller has any loyalty to Giuliani, who is so old and impotent that he could croak by Monday morning

Are there still people at the FBI willing to side with Giuliani and Trump and sabotage Mueller?

We will finally have an answer to that old physics riddle of whether any force in the universe is powerful enough to stop Rudy Giuliani heading toward a camera.

orange will really enjoy the camera time Rudy gets, I'm sure, especially after the first new, fun week

R417, I haven't heard of any major purge of the NY (or any other) offices, have you?

In addition to his many other fuckups, Comey was derelict in his duty of getting rid of those rogue elements who were insubordinate and leaking to the Trump camp.

I do wonder how on earth can Rudy get along with Trump when he treats anyone like dirt? After what transpired between them (not getting the VP position) I don't see Giuliani being eager to help out a friend and be his lawyer, there really must be some other motive behind it even when it's just protecting his own ass through lawyer client privilege.

Giuliani is dirty as well and his only chance of saving himself is to jump in and do damage control.

It's not a smart choice, it's a desperate choice.

My biggest fear still remains that the GOP will get rid of Trump just in time for the mid term election and the general public being so relieved (and exhausted) that they don't see the urgency to vote for the Democratic Party anymore with the Republican Party still being a majority in both the house and the senate.

Someone on TV said Giuliani is lawyering for free.

I wan't able to find that online, but then again I only looked for 60 seconds.

Why do so many people, including Manafort, beg to work for free?

[quote] Why do so many people, including Manafort, beg to work for free?

Because Donald Trump gives incredible BJs! *lol*

In normal circumstances, R423, it's to build a rep. You're the go-to guy, the President's fixer, etc. It really pays off with your other clients, with lobbying, and on the speaker's circuit.

R422 Nah. The GOP is terrified of the MAGA base. He's not going anywhere before midterms, short of some sort of "Act of God" /Black Swan type scenario.

The report from the investigation into the leaks in the FBI NY office is due next week, I believe.....It will be interesting to see what it contains since we already know so much about it. Will they say they didnt uncover anything ? If they found something, what are they going to do about it ? It will also be interesting to see if there is any apparent bias involved in the report. How do we know that the person writing the report isnt bias or crooked as well.....corruption runs deep...... Thats kind of like letting the fox guard the henhouse.

Agreed, R426. If anything, the base is even more solidly behind Trump now than they were before. Evangelical support is up, for example. Republican politicians value their career (power) more than they do anything else, so they won't buck the trend. Those few who have have already announced their retirement.

I bet the NYC FBO office is treated with kid gloves compared to McCabe

Rudy is already guilty of broadcasting leaks from the FBI - remember when he said something’s big was coming and then we heard about Huma emails right before the election? (Which by the way were duplicates of what they already had, and not a single email was found to be harmful). I just think Rudy has zero credibility

Trump tweets......

1. There is no Wendy Wasserman Schultz 2. So he accuses the Dems of being obstructionists, then he says hell counter-sue for fabricated evidence ?...basically an obstructionist move not even based on merit.

It just came out ...and been verified by the CIA, that Mike Pompeo...head of the CIA, and soon to be SOS never served in the Gulf War, like his bio claims. I wonder what the Senate is going to say or do next week when theyre supposed to confirm him.

Pence is on the road today with a fake southern accent trying to make the case that the tax cuts are a hit yada yada yada.

Hopefully they are also suing the RNC, senate majority leader and house speaker who were all complicit.

Pence is so fake. He’s a fraud. Everything about his career is a stunt. He’s right at home with this set.

R432 his out is that he has never stated that he served in the Gulf war... everyone else did. He just didn't bother to correct them.

Rudy needs to stick with his drag queen act. Maybe that's how he spend his time at home and at socials.

This investigation is endless. Mueller will retire before it ends.

In comparison, how long was the Watergate investigation ??

Much longer than this.

“Watergate” — from the first investigation of the break-in to Nixon’s resignation—went on for over two years, and felt endless. It spun off numerous criminal trials.

Trump will resign.....he will wait until the very last minute....the day before impeachment trials start, and he will only do so with a guarantee that he and his family does not go to prison.......Congress will agree to prevent the embarrassment to the GOP

He smells like Ivana.

Why r442 is not a part of every Guiliana Joins the Legal Team story, I do not know.

Proof! The Korean Missile thread Troll just deleted his cookies!!!!

R442 —

Ladies and gentlemen, the President Of The United States Of America and his lawyer.

OMG....lol.......someone put ads in the NY subways for Michael Cohen.....too funny......

Even FOX knows the jig is up

So now it makes sense why Gulliani is joining Trumps team......the head of the SDNY (Bermann), the jurisdiction handling the Michael Cohen case, is one of Gullianis ex partners. I know hes recused (Bermann), but somethings up..

r447......Fox is full of shit.....there has not been one instance where Muellers team has leaked. PERIOD.

.....as much as I would want it to be true.

r446, the website works too

This is all they have, really:

[quote]As the former New York City mayor’s remarks made their way to Mueller’s investigators, they were said to be “amused,” according to one person with direct knowledge of the matter.

The other quotes from the Fox article come from random legal experts who don't have any insight into what the Mueller team is doing. Still, I wouldn't be surprised if they really were amused. Hell, most of us were amused when we heard the news, particularly with that ridiculous claim that he could negotiate an end to the investigation in a couple of weeks.

R450, Oh My God.

Hahahahahaaaaa!

I fucking love the internet!

couple things to throw in the pot, if they haven't already been covered: The speculation is that Sea Hannity persuaded Trump to bring Giuliani on board. Secondly if you watch Rachel interview Comey, I think it was on her program he said he investigated the SDNY FBI office to figure out who was leaking stuff to Giuliani, and what Giuliani's interests were, I mean he was talking about all kinds of stuff before the world new it. Couldn't contain himself. Had to tell. I have to figure Comey didn't find any leaks inside the office but he put people on notice. I also have to figure that Comey deduced or had proof that Giuliani was getting his information from people in contact with the Russians, Assange Wiki Leaks Roger Stone, etc. Yes. Rudy is very dirty.

r453....Comey opened the investigation, but was fired a week later......the investigation is still active and the report is due next week.....

R454, I'm not so sure about that. I was under the impression Comey opened the investigation into Trump Russia in July, 2016. I think Rudy got checked out long before may or June of 2017.

People have asked him about the FBI leaks...he has said he opened the investigation and was fired a week later so he knows nothing about results.....separate reporting stated the report on the investigation is due next week.

Trump is circling his greasy wagons. Mueller is about to take down another mobster, and we're about to get a glimpse of the real deep state. Right, Paul and Mitch?

BREAKING :.....Frmr Stormi Daniels lawyer (the one who dealt with Michael Cohen and was in cahoots with him) is cooperating with Cohen probe.....lol

r392 Do try to keep up, dear. James Comey gave at least one memo to a friend who then shared the contents with a reporter. He did not give him the memo, only shared content. None of it was classified. Someone has now gone back and made parts of those memos classified in an effort to accuse him of leaking classified information. Here is one link. There are thousands of others. While you're grabbing your Sure, Jan gif maybe you could look up some of them.

Lindsey Graham "smoked" Jim Comey. My goodness!

Pardon the pro-Trump/right-wing source, but they have an odd way of describing and using Lindsey's commentaries.

Lindsey is giving Comey the eye.

Are we sure it isn't Lindsey on those tapes peeing his socks off? Because he's become the biggest Trump kiss ass in the Senate.

Trump is thriving in his presidency unlike any other. He will be noted in history as the GREATEST. PRESIDENT. EVER. That's right bitches - EVER.

*sigh* We do have some of the dumbest trolls on the Internet, don't we?

You ain't go no one for 2020 - maybe 2024 will work for you

All you have is Trump, R464, the least unpopular President since we began measuring such things. I like our chances.

Thanks R 456

Oh R291 - “Hillary always broke down Trump supporters into three baskets,” New York Times reporter Amy Chozick’s book claimed, according to The Daily Beast.

The first group was allegedly made up of Republican supporters who didn’t like Clinton and would always vote along party lines, the outlet said.

Basket No. 2 reportedly included what Clinton described as those “who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens in their lives and their futures.”

And Basket No. 3 was reportedly made up of “deplorables,” which allegedly included “the racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic — you name it.”

I am proudly Basket No. 1 - so there Mary.

R459, I find a delicious irony in the fact that Comey is now saying none of hiss stuff was marked classified. Just like Hillary. Does he get that? Does he understand that this is how they fuck you up?

Voting along party lines is nothing to be ashamed of, however, to condone Trump, his administration and his policies is something else....and its not a good thing

[quote]I am proudly Basket No. 1 - so there Mary.

*shrug* Like I said....

You insisted that you were "educated and have developed critical listening and reading" skills. Clearly not or you wouldn't be a Trump supporter. Your other posts have confirmed that you completely lack both critical listening and reading skills, as you have unquestioning swallowed and regurgitated the most ridiculous and hilarious propaganda.

You continue to make my case for me.

We're in a dangerous place in our Democracy when the POTUS and his Congressional whores can say, in effect, "The law is whatever I say it is." And then selectively enforce it, and decide who they want to put in jail and simply declare someone's actions illegal because they don't like them. One thing is certain. We can never say they didn't tell us what they intended to do or what they wanted. They are not keeping it a secret.

[quote]I find a delicious irony in the fact that Comey is now saying none of hiss stuff was marked classified. Just like Hillary. Does he get that? Does he understand that this is how they fuck you up?

Funny thing... When Maddow recently got Dana Boente's (then acting Deputy AG) memos about what Comey told him about his meetings with Trump, there was also this:

[quote]The exclusive collection of documents also includes a letter from E.W. Priestap, the assistant director of the Counterintelligence Division of the Department of Justice, informing Boente that his notes from his conversation with Comey are not classified.

So how can Comey's memos be classified but Boente's memos about the same thing be unclassified?

Obviously, DOJ doesn't consider the memos classified. So who is now retroactively classifying them to serve Trump and the Hill GOP narrative?

Man, blocking that guy with the "developed critical listening and reading skills" sure cut a lot of the stupid troll comments out of this thread.

Miz Lindz must have an oligarch daddy now; or a new Russher studmuffin. The twinkle in her eyes and the obsessive craving of media attention gives it away.

Of course the Mueller team was not impressed with Rudy. That is not a leak but just having a brain. They are allowed to talk to colleagues with impressions. Trump pulling out Rudy is like forcing Liza Minelli on stage - you never reach for Depends when you can't get them on soon enough

Mueller has known Rudy for decades -- they were both U.S. Attorneys in the Reagan administration. I strongly suspect that Bob thinks that the Ghoul is a loud-mouthed buffoon, and yesterday's comments about wrapping up the investigation in a few weeks only confirmed what Mueller already knew -- Rudy is a fame-whoring dope.

R476 Mueller vs. Ghouliani... It even sounds like a good vs. evil movie plot.

Overtime was pretty good.

[quote] I am proudly Basket No. 1 - so there Mary.

True Basket Case

How about some movie-themed thread titles:

Valley of the Treasons

All About Treason

Treason Dearest

What Ever Happened to Baby Treason?

r480: I like them all, especially the last one. "WEHT Baby Treason?" is perfect for when baby-faced Jared is arrested.

I also like :

"Gone With the Treason" (for when Trump is removed from office)

"The Wizard of Treason" (Rudy Giuliani thread)

[quote]"Gone With the Treason" (for when Trump is removed from office)

Oh I like that, when Trumpito leaves office this needs to be the thread tittle. <3

Michael avenatti is my new obsession - love his swagger.

R473 - I am still here.

r484....blocking someone doesnt make their posts disappear for everyone....just for the person who blocked you.

[quote]Man, blocking that guy with the "developed critical listening and reading skills" sure cut a lot of the stupid troll comments out of this thread.

I loved the irony of someone insisting that they have such skills coupled with posts so genuinely stupid, including spewing the most obvious and blatant propaganda, that you have to wonder if they even have the intelligence to tie their shoes.

Nothing to see here..

Trump is pissed at the New York Times for reporting that he hasn't treated Cohen very well. He's terrified that Cohen will flip.

[quote]The New York Times and a third rate reporter named Maggie Haberman, known as a Crooked H flunkie who I don’t speak to and have nothing to do with, are going out of their way to destroy Michael Cohen and his relationship with me in the hope that he will “flip.” They use….

[quote]….non-existent “sources” and a drunk/drugged up loser who hates Michael, a fine person with a wonderful family. Michael is a businessman for his own account/lawyer who I have always liked & respected. Most people will flip if the Government lets them out of trouble, even if….

[quote]….it means lying or making up stories. Sorry, I don’t see Michael doing that despite the horrible Witch Hunt and the dishonest media!

In the original set of tweets, he misspelled Maggie Haberman's last name ("Habberman").

The New York Times story: "Michael Cohen Has Said He Would Take a Bullet for Trump. Maybe Not Anymore."

[quote]That one-sidedness has always been at the heart of President Trump’s relationship with his longtime lawyer and fixer, Michael D. Cohen, who has said he would “take a bullet” for Mr. Trump. For years Mr. Trump treated Mr. Cohen poorly, with gratuitous insults, dismissive statements and, at least twice, threats of being fired, according to interviews with a half-dozen people familiar with their relationship.

[quote]“Donald goes out of his way to treat him like garbage,” said Roger J. Stone Jr., Mr. Trump’s informal and longest-serving political adviser, who, along with Mr. Cohen, was one of five people originally surrounding the president when he was considering a presidential campaign before 2016.

More at the link.

[quote]Donald goes out of his way to treat him like garbage,” said Roger J. Stone Jr., Mr. Trump’s informal and longest-serving political adviser

Well, that is some juicy fruit there.

Daddy-son issues, much, boys?

r490....NO,..... Trump is just an asshole.....one of his ex executives said he treats almost everyone that way.

I’m surprised Roger Stone is revealing this info, esp to the NYT.

OP, please don’t use a disgusting photo, like you did here, in another OP again. I know it was daring and cutting-edge and all; avant-garde, as they say, and I give you credit for all that, but it makes me want to wash my eyes out with bleach. And skip the thread, which I hate to do. Thank you.

Maybe a bit off topic, but didn’t Trump screw over Merv Griffin back in the 90s with some Atlantic City deal? Or am I imagining things.

I just assumed Cheetoh-head was one of Haberman's biggest sources in the White House.

Wait... who is Trump calling a drunk? Maggie Haberman?

So why would tRump care if Cohen "flipped" if he's done nothing wrong? Oh, yeah...right...

[quote]a third rate reporter named Maggie Haberman, known as a Crooked H flunkie who I don’t speak to and have nothing to do with,

She's his BFF!

He calls HER all the time.

Sometimes to get a story placed, but sometimes just to chit chat when he's bored and lonely. He's been doing it for 25 years.

R496 Roger Stone

R494, I recall that. I saw interviews with them before the deal. They were buddy-buddy, all complementary. Then there were the “after” interviewers. Merv was all pleased with his new toy. He purchased some cascino in Las Vegas, IIRC. Donald was dismissive. He talked about how he “got what (he) wanted”, and how he took Merv, essentially. I was shocked and disgusted. Not so much that he did it, but that he 1. Bragged, and 2. About that. Both were obnoxious. I don’t know how anybody might think any of that is admirable.

I do know that this happens, etc. etc., but the foundation of business in America is that both sides can get what they want, can prosper, without cheating the other. You sell a good product at a fair price. I know, that monster Martin S. who jacked up medical prices recently, because he could, legally, isn’t on board with this, but we used to have social stigma that would prevent the worst abuses. Now, I don’t know.

In Russia, I hear, dash cams are necessary because nobody in insurance can believe the claimant anymore (if ever, there). That was a good thing that religion gave to America, for centuries. I think it’s gone now.

No....r484......Merv Griffin screwed Trump out of a casino......something he later came to regret.....

Fun fact....the Golden Girls made a joke of it calling Griffin the anti-Trump.

^^^^^^sorry....the above post is for r494.....^^^^^^^

Golden Girl reference......

[quote]But Mr. Trump's camp sought to dispel any talk that he had backed down or that he could be branded the loser.

1988.

30 years of this shit.

And everyone know he is a huge loser.

He's the kiss of death to everything he touches.

One Flew Over the Treason's Nest

Little House on the Treason

Silence of the Treasons

Treason Land

Everyone stop proposing names that don't substitute for "reason" or "season"

Celestial Treasonings

Treason to Taste

[quote]Everyone stop proposing names that don't substitute for "reason" or "season"

I'd take a switch for freezin', squeezin', pleasin', etc.

FUN FACT: Both Bushes, Clinton and Obama will attend Barbara Bush’s funeral today. It’s only for family members or Presidents that won the popular vote.

Bush 43 did not win the popular vote.

How about Lovin Touchin Treason?

Who is this retardate who is obsessed with naming threads? STFU and let the grownups talk.

Are some of you really not aware of how these thread titles have worked? If we were just swapping out any word with treason these titles wouldn't be nearly as interesting or fun (or difficult to name).

I'll throw mine out there again--Treasonaire's Disease.

[quote]It’s only for family members or Presidents that won the popular vote.

Which popular vote? There is a popular vote in each state but nothing at a higher level than that. Bill Clinton won the Presidency with a smaller percentage of the nation-wide popular vote than Trump received.

I know! Let me play!

Star Treason Wars!

Be-Treason-witched!

BLack Treason Panther!

Rosemary's Treason!

Bonnie & Treason!

The Avengers - Treason!

She Loves Treason, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah!

Once again, Beyond a Treasonable Doubt

r517.....You do realize that in that election there were 3 candidates dividing the vote (I dont count people like Stein who dont have a snowballs chance in hell of winning). Ross Perot put the fear of God in both the Dems and the GOP

In the election, Perot won 18.9% of the popular vote but did not win any electoral votes. He won support from across the ideological and partisan spectrum, but performed best among self-described moderates.

How about something to celebrate spring? I humbly submit my title:

A Stormy Change of Treason

R517 is being disingenuous to throw us off topic right before the whole thread turns into suggestions for the next thread title. Everybody knows what it means for the president to win or not win the popular vote. Trump's tweets have shown his sensitivity to having lost to Clinton by 3 million votes and winning the electoral college only because of bare majorities in three states. When Bush Jr. won a bare majority of the popular vote in 2004 (helped by voter suppression and probably shenanigans in places like Ohio) he immediately declared that he now had some sort of mandate to privatize Social Security and carry on with his reactionary program—which promptly collapsed in flames, by the way.

[quote]Bill Clinton won the Presidency with a smaller percentage of the nation-wide popular vote than Trump received.

Smaller than my percentage of the popular vote, too, because I received more votes than that orange creature.

Since half this thread is about following silly thread titles with some play on the word treason rather than offering content, here is a suggestion:

Kellyanne's Pussy thread reached 600 posts and closed. How about a new thread on that subject matter?

Let's not r525.....

[quote]Since half this thread is about following silly thread titles with some play on the word treason rather than offering content, here is a suggestion:

Then you haven't been paying attention.

^^That's really only true when it gets past the 500 mark, which almost always seems to happen on weekends, when there aren't as many news items to post about.

o much discussion about Michael Cohen "flipping" but on this I have to agree with Trump. I don't think Michael Cohen is going to flip. I think he'll hold.....unless they say the magic words "Assets Forefieture."

I can’t believe Putin bragged about his country’s whores just like that comedy.

On a lighter note and because it doesn't really warrant its own thread: "A Field Guide to Bad Conservative Hair." Sample:

The Rubio

[quote]Cut: The haircut you get after mom forbids you from getting the haircut you actually want.

[quote]Color: Latino, but not, like, threatening Latino. You’re one of the good ones!

[quote]What It Says About You: “I demand to be taken seriously even though I am a human wheelbarrow.”

More at the link and worth a quick look.

"It's almost like there's a value right now in reminding some folks he has this power." (In relation to Trump's tweet about considering a pardon for Jack Johnson.) It's Maggie's answer to the question, "If you're going to pardon someone, why not just go ahead and do it? What's the point in tweeting about it?"

Thank you, R531. My favorite: The Milo

Cut: “I wanna look like a YouTube star, but less trustworthy.”

Color: Frosted Göring.

What It Says About You: “If you delete my Twitter account, I cease to physically exist.”

Get indictments rolling. Maybe major action comes soon.

Having a laugh that Trumpie Maggie got thrown under the bus by the Doofus.

Hes disavowed her before also....the problem is that theyve known each other and their families for years

Trump thinks Stallone was talking about the Russian boxer in Rocky IV who killed that uppity Black guy. Of course Trump would want to pardon him!

Assets forfeiture, such a vulgar RICO term.

I want to see the DC Trump Hotel seized!

I want to see Trump grabbed by the assets!

[quote]I want to see the DC Trump Hotel seized!

Funny thing is, it already belongs to the American people.

I think Asset forfeiture is where Michael Cohen and Paul Manafort are vulnerable. If there's any way to get Michael Cohen to flip that would be it. Of course if he is a true mobster he probably has a lot of his assets in other people's names. I'm intrigued by Maggie Haberman's comments about Roger Stone. He seems like a real monster. Now he would flip. He's a rotten through and through. Interesting how all these people a re referred to as Trump's friends.

Fusion GPS Founders Lay Out Where Mueller’s Case Against Trump Might be Going (And It’s Not Stormy)

r539, the lease and the property assets of Trump Co.

AND Mar-a-lago AND Trump Towers and every unit he and his family owns!

[quote] Michael, a fine person with a wonderful family

[quote]Most people will flip if the Government lets them out of trouble

[quote]Sorry, I don’t see Michael doing that

Trump doesn't see Michael doing that, especially given his wonderful family. Michael is sure to understand what Trump means.

1) If what is in Cohen's records is evidence of human trafficking the Mann Act pardon tweet makes sense as a message to him.

2) Speaking of fine families (but for realz this time) what do we think of the WH CFO? Piece of the puzzle? Or coincidental Russia/Deutsche Bank/communication masking technology coincidence?

[quote][R539], the lease and the property assets of Trump Co.

Or are they?

CNN had Kellyanne Conway on this morning for another obnoxious interview. She distorts, twists, deflects, attacks, filibusters, and the verasity is shallow. If CNN wants to play the "both sides" angle, at least find a Republican that is straightforward and offers some substance of information. Then, CNN keeps featuring Bernie Sanders as if he is the leader of the Democratic Party.

NBC/MSNBC won't fool with Kellyanne, but CNN is thinks this is news. It is poor journalistic standards.

^delete "is" after last CNN.

Is the federal government now paying for grounds upkeep, maintenance, personnel, utilities, state taxes, etc., at Mar A Lago? Who is looking at those figures and set-up?

& "veracity" (sp).

When news about DJT gets hot for him, CNN uplifts him for a day or two. They, among others, want this drama to never end as long as there are big profits. It is the Washington Post, and some by the NY Times, that are doing the heavy journalistic lifting. What is CNN uncovering?

[quote]and some by the NY Times,

You mean the NY Times which did the article normalizing KKK members?

They are just as bad as you are saying CNN is.

[quote]You do realize that in that election there were 3 candidates dividing the vote

Yes, and the majority of voters chose someone other than Bill Clinton, who won anyway, as did Trump. Neither President won a majority of the popular vote but each was still elected.

Clinton didnt conspire with a foreign government to manipulate the election....nice try though.....

Clinton conspired to give Ukraine to George Soros.

Manafort conspired to give the Ukraine to Putin.....

What's said about R553 is that trolldar shows that the poor deluded fool genuinely believes something so incredibly stupid that it doesn't even pass the giggle test.

Saying it does not make it so, R555, and yet they continue.

I love the whole twisting of "popular vote," to MAJORITY of voters . It's desperate.

Nunes is declaring that U.S. spy agencies were snooping on the Trump campaign.

Well yes, they wouldn't be doing their job when there were indicators of collusion with Russia, a hostile foreign power, to swing a U.S. national election.

The better question for Nunes, why are you engaging in what looks like ongoing obstruction of justice, and what investments of interest do you have with Russia interfering?

No, r558, Nunes is wrong. There was surveillance of foreign nationals suspected (rightly) of trying to influence US persons close to, or part of, the campaign. Those efforts were completely justified.

Well, duh. Nunes tries to control the narrative with his BS story. People should laugh and point at him and treat him like the village idiot he is (for thinking anyone believes what he says).

Which is why his statement singling out the Trump administration as the target is so damning, R559. No other campaign did it. Nunes is an idiot to anyone who's been watching and listening. Cut right out of the same guilty conscience/loose lipped mold as the idiot pretending to be president.

Nunes is so blatant. I can't wait for whatever he's getting out of this to be exposed on him.

It seems like the Trump Camp is in the desperation phase - all their efforts to discredit Comey have failed. Sessions has made it clear that he will (happily?) resign if Rosenstein is fired. Team Trump has no strategy and even Chief Rat Kellyanne Conway is unraveled by simple questions

[quote] ... and even Chief Rat Kellyanne Conway is unraveled by simple questions

To be honest I have not noticed any difference since she joined Trump's team.

Whatever happened with the mysterious servers in the basement at Trump Tower? Would someone please bring me up to speed about them? Thanks.

Watch her respond to Dana Bush about her husband’s anti-Trump tweets

R565, As far as we know they're still there, still running, still connected straight to Russia.

House Republicans, particularly Ryan, gave Nunes the green light to undermine the investigation. Nunes is beloved by his aroused GOP colleagues and have endorsed and facilitated his actions every step of the way. That doesn't look like Nunes is being a renegade with that kind of party support. They can't say later Nunes was out of control when they appointed him, accepted his reports, offered no reprimands, and voted affirmatively on all his antics (Intel report) presented for a vote.

R565 Rachel Maddow asked the same question about two weeks ago.

Yup, R568, and as has been pointed out multiple times, Ryan has the power to arbitrarily and unilaterally remove Nunes from his committee leadership position and he has chosen to not do so. And chosen to not rein him in in any way. Whatever Nunes is doing, he's got Ryan's backing, implicitly if not explicitly.

Kellyanne Conway will be divorced by the end of the year.

What sad sack would marry her to begin with...and then impregnate her multiple times? He can hang beside her, Trump hater or not.

[quote]Sessions has made it clear that he will (happily?) resign if Rosenstein is fired.

When has he made this clear? And why would it matter? Drumpf wants him gone.

The optics, R573.

Optics?

Again, when has Sessions made this clear? And why would that threat matter to Drumpf who couldn't care less?

[quote]Attorney General Jeff Sessions told White House Counsel Don McGahn last weekend that he would consider resigning if President Donald Trump fires Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, the Washington Post reported Friday evening, citing sources familiar with the conversation.

The evangelicals don't though, R573. They know they're not getting another Sessions if he resigns. The evangelicals are right now the most reliable boosters of Trump's already pathetic poll numbers, and Sessions has the backing of a multi million dollar evangelical lobbying group that has ties to DeVos.

Trump won't fire him unless and until he can convince the evangelicals to let Sessions be sacrificed.

Why do you think Ryan isnt running again....he knows that the shit is going to hit the fan and if hes not there, they cant hold him responsible.....

[quote]Why do you think Ryan isnt running again....

He wants to spend time with his almost adult children that he has never bothered with before!!!!

Ryan knows he won’t be the speaker of the house come January 2019. That’s why he resigned.

New thread:

Here'st he link to the new thread.

FFS.....how many part 23 will there be.....obviously somebody want to MAKE SURE they get to name the thread........pathetic.

Why Trump can't get good legal help.

Which thread is the OP?

R582 seems to be the OP of these threads (?)

R583 has no other history so I'm assuming is a troll.

Do we know for a fact that Nunes has ties to Russia? Isn’t it possible that he’s doing the shit he’s doing because he’s incredibly evil and/or incredibly stupid?

R581 = has no history and seems to be a troll who wanted their title (Not R583)

R587 I'm not sure why all of those things can't all be true.

Ugh, sending Kellyanne out there again. She fits Murdoch's propaganda outlets, but others can't find it inspiring. She's a Mercer operative and once worked for the Koch political machine.

After the question today about her husband's tweets disagreeing with Trump, she's probably pretty mad with the spouse. He's a bigtime lawyer with some prominent clients, and doesn't want to be seen as approving all the scandals associated with Trump and his tainted fixers.

R585 I am the OP of the large majority of the past threads. The new one I started is "Dangerous Trea'sons," which some clever person suggested. You are all obviously free to use whichever you prefer.

r587....his vineyard is financed by Russians....could there be a connection ? I dont know, but people are saying it, lots of people.

R581 = an imposter!!!

Starting the new thread that early just so you could get your title is pathetic!

Do we have a consensus on which new thread we want to use?

Yours, OP/ R594.

Link to new thread:

I genuinely think Ryan wants to spend more time with family, but the biggest factor was the complete shit show that has become the norm for the Republican Party.

I vote for OP's thread too. Unless OP is a double agent.

Link to new thread:

New thread available at the link below: