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Liza Minnelli‘s forthcoming memoir

Will it be a scandalous tell-all?

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by Anonymousreply 171October 8, 2025 5:48 PM

Cover by AI? It’s horrible.

by Anonymousreply 1October 4, 2025 8:36 PM

Cover? The whole books gonna be written by AI.

by Anonymousreply 2October 4, 2025 8:37 PM

I wonder if she will compare the penis sizes of her faggot husbands.

by Anonymousreply 3October 4, 2025 8:40 PM

Mark Gero, who was straight had the biggest penis of them all.

by Anonymousreply 4October 4, 2025 8:42 PM

[quote]It was only after a “series of unfortunate events,” including “a sabotaged appearance at the Oscars,” "a film with twisted half-truths " and "a recent miniseries that just didn’t get it right ... All made by people who didn’t know my family, and don’t really know me" that she decided to collaborate on the book with Tony winner and longtime friend Michael Feinstein.

Why does everything with her go through Feinstein? This doesn't even sound like something she would say. Liza wouldn't even reveal that Studio 54 had drugs! And what miniseries are they referring to?

Sorry, but this looks low rent, from the title to the cover. She deserves better.

by Anonymousreply 5October 4, 2025 8:44 PM

Who are these "kids"?

by Anonymousreply 6October 4, 2025 8:54 PM

I"m looking forward to it.

by Anonymousreply 7October 4, 2025 9:05 PM

[quote] I"m looking forward to it.

It'll be terif!

by Anonymousreply 8October 4, 2025 9:12 PM

I love the cover. She really resembles Judy there, but with her own distinct 70s twist. The camera has loved them both equally.

The font is fun and bold. It grabs attention, and the face holds it.

Let’s all buy this, for Dame Liza. In paper, to tote around resorts and cruises.

by Anonymousreply 9October 4, 2025 9:14 PM

There's a reason they're not releasing this now - for the Christmas season - and waiting until 'early 2026' when there's hardly any competition. I think that reason is the publisher is not convinced it will be a best-seller through the season.

R5 As for the 'mini series' she refers to, can it be the series they did on Fosse / Verdon ? Wasn't there a sub-story on working with her, which didn't put her in the best spotlight ?

by Anonymousreply 10October 4, 2025 9:17 PM

The release is to coincide with her 80th birthday.

One of the last showbiz legends who must have truly seen, done and survived it all.

by Anonymousreply 11October 4, 2025 9:25 PM

[quote]The release is to coincide with her 80th birthday.

That's what they're saying is the delay to release part 2 of Cher's memoir - from November to the end of May. I haven't heard that about Liza. So they will release this in mid-March ?

by Anonymousreply 12October 4, 2025 9:33 PM

If there isn't a chapter titled LORNA WAS MOLESTED I have zero interest.

by Anonymousreply 13October 4, 2025 9:41 PM

Of course you love the book cover, Miss Feinstein/R9. No amount of pushing us to buy it is going to work.

How long will you keep pimping out Liza with these new “projects” to pay for your rentboys?

by Anonymousreply 14October 4, 2025 9:41 PM

Will Feinstein read the audiobook ?

by Anonymousreply 15October 4, 2025 9:48 PM

[quote] [R5] As for the 'mini series' she refers to, can it be the series they did on Fosse / Verdon ?

It's almost certainly the "Halston" miniseries, where she appears as an important character.

by Anonymousreply 16October 4, 2025 9:54 PM

The book is coming out on March 10 and her birthday is on March 12. Nice timing.

by Anonymousreply 17October 4, 2025 9:56 PM

It's pretty amazing Liza has survived to 80, (at least I hope she does!).

I remember during the last decade, many of us were so certain she was heading in the direction of her mother and would be dead of an OD before hitting 45!

by Anonymousreply 18October 4, 2025 10:01 PM

[quote] The book is coming out on March 10 and her birthday is on March 12. Nice timing.

Sherendipitoush!!

by Anonymousreply 19October 4, 2025 10:04 PM

...as told BY

by Anonymousreply 20October 4, 2025 10:05 PM

I never thought Liza would flame out. Liza seemed to have much more of a grit and determination than Judy. She was also more stable.

Even at her worst, you always knew that she would pull through.

by Anonymousreply 21October 4, 2025 10:06 PM

[quote]I remember during the last decade, many of us were so certain she was heading in the direction of her mother and would be dead of an OD before hitting 45!

Math is not your strong suit.

If she's turning 80 in this decade (2020s), then in the last decade (2010s) she wasn't turning 45.

by Anonymousreply 22October 4, 2025 10:10 PM

She has a tendency to tell all of these old Hollywood anecdotes about who came over and the parties and dinners. It's interesting fluff - but it just feels like name-dropping and there's never any tea spilled.

I hope it's not a book full of that - but I predict that it will be.

by Anonymousreply 23October 4, 2025 10:25 PM

Liza is known for never saying anything bad about anyone, so I'm not quite sure what she will divulge in her memoir. Still, she lived a full life with ups and downs, so it could be very interesting.

by Anonymousreply 24October 4, 2025 11:33 PM

It will be 103 pages, and that includes the index.

by Anonymousreply 25October 4, 2025 11:41 PM

"As told to."

by Anonymousreply 26October 4, 2025 11:46 PM

It'll be a real thrill!

by Anonymousreply 27October 4, 2025 11:54 PM

She has overcome so much diversity!

by Anonymousreply 28October 5, 2025 12:07 AM

Will there be never before seen photographs?

by Anonymousreply 29October 5, 2025 12:15 AM

Will we hear any updates on the "beau" whom Judy said Liza was off ice-skating with at the beginning of Judy's Christmas episode of her CBS series?

by Anonymousreply 30October 5, 2025 12:23 AM

I didn't know she had "chronic anxiety."

by Anonymousreply 31October 5, 2025 12:24 AM

Google Tracy Everitt's name, R30, and you can see the studio in NJ where he still teaches ballroom, and his LinkedIn too.

by Anonymousreply 32October 5, 2025 12:33 AM

So she was not happy with the documentary?

by Anonymousreply 33October 5, 2025 12:41 AM

Thanks, Geraldo at R32.

by Anonymousreply 34October 5, 2025 12:44 AM

Will the chapter on Peter Shellersh be dishy?

by Anonymousreply 35October 5, 2025 1:17 AM

Will there be unflattering pictures of Lorna?

by Anonymousreply 36October 5, 2025 1:18 AM

She said bad things about David guest.

by Anonymousreply 37October 5, 2025 1:19 AM

[quote] Will there be unflattering pictures of Lorna?

Are there flattering pictures of Lorna?

by Anonymousreply 38October 5, 2025 1:21 AM

Lorna will publish her own "as told to Michael Feinstein" book next year. Then, finally, it's Joey's turn to tell all.

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by Anonymousreply 39October 5, 2025 1:31 AM

Thank you, R9, aka Liza. I didn’t think you were lucid snout to post such a promo.

Tra!

by Anonymousreply 40October 5, 2025 1:32 AM

[quote]She really resembles Judy there, but with her own distinct 70s twist. The camera has loved them both equally.

A 70s style Judy. Can you imagine Judy on Love Boat?

by Anonymousreply 41October 5, 2025 1:38 AM

The cover photo is lifted from an A&M album Liza did called Come Saturday Morning, which was the theme song from The Sterile Cuckoo, 1969. Guess there’s no copyright on the pic. Actually, I’m not sure many people will recognize 1969s Liza.

by Anonymousreply 42October 5, 2025 1:45 AM

Bitch stole my Oscar.

by Anonymousreply 43October 5, 2025 4:37 AM

And David gest.

by Anonymousreply 44October 5, 2025 4:59 AM

The cover art is ghastly.

by Anonymousreply 45October 5, 2025 5:23 AM

She really ushered in and helped shape the 70s.

by Anonymousreply 46October 5, 2025 6:42 AM

Liza is extraordinarily talented.

She is a national treasure.

by Anonymousreply 47October 5, 2025 7:18 AM

Liza is extraordinarily talented.

Meh.

by Anonymousreply 48October 5, 2025 7:22 AM

Oh come on…. Written by AI and signed off on by Michael Feinstein. Nothing new to see here. If you really want to read about early Liza, Judy and the horrors and thrills of show bidness - read Stevie Phillip’s memoir. “Liza and Judy…” followed by a number of other names. Your hair will curl. That’s the real deal. A perfect vacation book!

by Anonymousreply 49October 5, 2025 7:22 AM

I hope it's a direct transliteration

by Anonymousreply 50October 5, 2025 8:09 AM

I don't understand As Told To. Why does she need an interpreter?

by Anonymousreply 51October 5, 2025 8:19 AM

Is she the one from Arrested Development?

by Anonymousreply 52October 5, 2025 8:20 AM

The Sky is so Blue Every Day: The Life and Times of Joey Luft

by Anonymousreply 53October 5, 2025 8:32 AM

Will Liza talk about how she survived Judy Garland's uterus? A fetid swanp of Nembutal, Seconal, Dexedrine, vodka and menthol cigarettes.

Amazing anyone could be pulled out of that chemical hellhole and survive.

by Anonymousreply 54October 5, 2025 8:37 AM

And being jostled around when Judy danced to Who?

by Anonymousreply 55October 5, 2025 8:55 AM

Sounds like a fanzine.

by Anonymousreply 56October 5, 2025 10:26 AM

What sabotaged Oscar appearance? Does anyone know who, what and when?

by Anonymousreply 57October 5, 2025 10:42 AM

Oscars = excuse for being too high to read or know where she was. No “sabotage.”

by Anonymousreply 58October 5, 2025 10:45 AM

Was that when Ellen was hosting and said the Liza was a male impersonator?

by Anonymousreply 59October 5, 2025 11:41 AM

Are you trying to be funny, R59? It was the Oscars with Lady Gaga with Liza in the wheelchair.

by Anonymousreply 60October 5, 2025 11:49 AM

What r24 says. Liza is kind and flattering. A true Hollywood product. This seems like Feinstein settling his own grievances and imagined ones for Liza. With only Liza's half cogent awareness. It threatens to be very abusive of who Liza is. I hope it's not.

by Anonymousreply 61October 5, 2025 11:56 AM

She said David Gest was after her money.

by Anonymousreply 62October 5, 2025 12:24 PM

r54, you must be thrilled to bits by the new fetal personhood laws.

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by Anonymousreply 63October 5, 2025 12:37 PM

R46: I think she was more of a symptom than a cause.

by Anonymousreply 64October 5, 2025 12:40 PM

Shouldn't it be Wait *Til* You Hear This?

by Anonymousreply 65October 5, 2025 1:37 PM

'Til, with one L, is an informal and poetic shortening of until.

'Till, with an additional L, is rarely used today, and should be avoided

by Anonymousreply 66October 5, 2025 1:40 PM

Will Liza Minnelli call into DL's Let's be Larry King's Liza Memorial Show to share her own memories of Liza?

by Anonymousreply 67October 5, 2025 1:44 PM

How many chapters on her clay work?

by Anonymousreply 68October 5, 2025 1:54 PM

Clay feet?

by Anonymousreply 69October 5, 2025 2:26 PM

The book cover photo as it originally appeared - on this 1968 album. You can get it on eBay for $4

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by Anonymousreply 70October 5, 2025 4:26 PM

I shtarted working with clay...

by Anonymousreply 71October 5, 2025 4:32 PM

It’s the best, most honest and revealing memoir since Michael Jackson’s Moonwalk!

by Anonymousreply 72October 5, 2025 11:14 PM

“There were no drugs at Studio 54!”

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by Anonymousreply 73October 5, 2025 11:32 PM

I’ll give you the shortened version:

Joel Grey was fabulous

Chita was fabulous

Andy was fabulous

The End.

by Anonymousreply 74October 5, 2025 11:47 PM

The real question is: will Victor/Victoria on Broadway be mentioned?

by Anonymousreply 75October 5, 2025 11:49 PM

r6, The "kids" are Us, all the little homosexual boys far and wide. Come on, "kids", Mama's made us egg salad sandwiches and stocked the icebox full of soda pop, and I'll tell ya how it all went down!

by Anonymousreply 76October 6, 2025 12:20 AM

Did Liza and Lorna ever do a duet of "If Mama Was Married," from "Gypsy"?

by Anonymousreply 77October 6, 2025 12:25 AM

[quote]Come Saturday Morning, which was the theme song from The Sterile Cuckoo

The Sandpipers had a hit record with that song.

by Anonymousreply 78October 6, 2025 12:26 AM

Was Liza’s character sterile? Did they cut that part out in the movie? I couldn’t stand the homophobia in the screenplay.

by Anonymousreply 79October 6, 2025 12:36 AM

I wonder if she will discuss sitting outside at Halston's place waiting for Skylab to fall.

by Anonymousreply 80October 6, 2025 12:38 AM

[quote]Did Liza and Lorna ever do a duet of "If Mama Was Married," from "Gypsy"?

Yes, they have.

Do you have that Google thing over there by you?

by Anonymousreply 81October 6, 2025 1:02 AM

I'll only buy the audio version if she reads it. If Barbra's was 29 hours, this should be 60. And that just gets us to "Lucky Lady. "

by Anonymousreply 82October 6, 2025 1:31 AM

I would prefer an elegant coffee table book with photos from throughout her life and career. C'mon Rizzoli!

by Anonymousreply 83October 6, 2025 1:32 AM

[quote] Did Liza and Lorna ever do a duet of "If Mama Was Married," from "Gypsy"?

No, but Joey once performed "Am I Blue?"

by Anonymousreply 84October 6, 2025 1:36 AM

[quote]Did Liza and Lorna ever do a duet of "If Mama Was Married," from "Gypsy"?

No, but Mama made the three of us perform "You Gotta Have a Gimmick." She'd take Joey behind the couch and beat on him when he screwed up, "Bump it with a trumpet." Every time.

by Anonymousreply 85October 6, 2025 2:03 AM

We want dirt, Liza. Don't be shy.

by Anonymousreply 86October 6, 2025 2:29 AM

Is the big reveal that Liza molested Lorna?

by Anonymousreply 87October 6, 2025 2:41 AM

Love everything about her. She’s always in unfailingly good cheer and seems to be in on the joke! Her appearances on Arrested Development sealed her legacy for me. I suspect Feinstein will do a decent job pulling some gems out of her.

by Anonymousreply 88October 6, 2025 2:45 AM

R77–they did! Here ya go

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by Anonymousreply 89October 6, 2025 2:48 AM

[quote]Did Liza and Lorna ever do a duet of "If Mama Was Married," from "Gypsy"?

A bit of it on the Tony Awards.

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by Anonymousreply 90October 6, 2025 3:11 AM

[quote]What sabotaged Oscar appearance? Does anyone know who, what and when?

I think she's referring to a few years ago, when she came out in a wheelchair pushed by Lady GaGa. It was right after Will Smith slapped Jamie Foxx across the face on stage. They were presenting the next award, and quite frankly, everyone's eyes were still on Smith and no one cared about Liza making her grand return to the Oscars - in a wheelchar, no less! - on stage. Her 'big moment' was sabotaged by Smith's stunt.

by Anonymousreply 91October 6, 2025 11:41 AM

[quote]“She only agreed to appear at the Oscars if she would be in a director’s chair, because she’s been having back trouble,”

[quote]‘I don’t want people to see me limping out there.’ She said, ‘You know, I want to look good. I don’t want people to worry about me.

[quote]Minnelli and Gaga’s presentation of the best picture prize to Coda provided a relatively calm close to a show overshadowed by events an hour or so earlier, when Will Smith slapped presenter Chris Rock on stage.

[quote]This disruption had “shaken up” the organisers, claimed Feinstein, leading them to abruptly change the plan for Minnelli. According to Feinstein, a stage manager informed her just minutes before her appearance that she’d be seated in a wheelchair rather than a director’s chair.

[quote]It is not known whether Minnelli was originally supposed to be wheeled on to stage and then transferred to the chair during an ad break or whether she was intended to walk with aid to the chair.

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by Anonymousreply 92October 6, 2025 1:32 PM

[quote]t was right after Will Smith slapped Jamie Foxx across the face on stage.

r91 is one of those "They all look alike to me" people.

by Anonymousreply 93October 6, 2025 2:26 PM

Thosh were the daysh!

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by Anonymousreply 94October 6, 2025 2:29 PM

[quote]I'll only buy the audio version if she reads it. If Barbra's was 29 hours, this should be 60. And that just gets us to "Lucky Lady. "

NO. It will be TWO HOURS. Her prep will be 60 hours because she'll have to memorize all 150 pages. Liza's reading skills are second grade level.

by Anonymousreply 95October 6, 2025 2:30 PM

[quote]Will it be a scandalous tell-all?

I think the chances of that are less than zero.

by Anonymousreply 96October 6, 2025 2:31 PM

[quote]I would prefer an elegant coffee table book

That would be an oxymoron.

by Anonymousreply 97October 6, 2025 2:33 PM

Will a complimentary coke spoon be given away at select locations?

by Anonymousreply 98October 6, 2025 4:26 PM

In hindsight, the thing about Victor/Victoria that sticks out is that Liza was only 50 then. In terms of today's Broadway "leading ladies" (not a patch on Liza for starpower, for age comparison only): Kelli O'Hara is 49, Sutton Foster is 50, Kristin Chenoweth is 57, Idina Menzel is 54, Sheri Rene Scott is 58 and there's no doubt all of them could get through an eight show week of Victor/Victoria with the keys tailored to their voices.

Victor/Victoria was built for Julie Andrews, then 60, to be able to get through it eight times a week with the voice and energy she had at the time. And they did some cuts and changes for Liza. I wish Liza had done "Louis Says."

Though the character sings "If I Were a Man" and her half of "Trust Me", "You and Me", and "Almost a Love Song", plus a line or two in the finale title song, none of these are vocally taxing. The big singing for the leading lady is limited to just three songs per performance.

In Act One: a few choruses of "Le Jazz Hot" and then the ballad ("Who Can I Tell?" for Liza, replacing Julie's "Crazy World"). In Act Two her only big sing is "Living in the Shadows."

Similarly, the only real dancing for the leading lady confines itself to the break in "Le Jazz Hot" and the Tango.

A Broadway and concert vet like Liza knew what she was getting into when she said yes. While her having a few slips on lines, steps, notes would make sense for even an old pro during the first week or so, given the short rehearsal process, it's hard to believe that she didn't have it down cold by around the middle of week two. There are so many wildly divergent accounts of the level of her performance, but I've only seen/heard one recording where she was clearly ill, and that's the valiant final performance.

At the performance I saw, she had one or two line gaffes which she immediately recovered from, and she sang the living daylights out of everything. More than that, (Mary!) for the first time I knew I was experiencing what it must have been like to see Happy Hunting, or Redhead, or some other shiny but substandard piece of Broadway goods that was made memorable by the starpower, presence, talent, and simple force of will of its leading lady. Julie is adult and sangfroid, Liza is all childlike wide-eyed warmth and need. I cared more about what happened to her Victoria because she played it with her emotions on the surface.

by Anonymousreply 99October 6, 2025 5:50 PM

Michael Feinstein is probably writing this or dictating it to the actual writer while Liza naps. He seems to be her custodian in all things, and probably is doing his best to make sure Lorna and any other relation doesn't get their hands on anything once Liza passes away. I have no doubt their friendship is genuine, but there is something creepy about it, anyway.

by Anonymousreply 100October 6, 2025 6:27 PM

Is she even involved in this at all? She doesn’t know what planet she’s on. This is all Michael Feinstein writing a book and using her name to sell it.

by Anonymousreply 101October 6, 2025 6:40 PM

RuPaul paid Liza a wonderful tribute earlier this year. The staging is great and very respectful. Liza is as fabulous as ever!

The Oscars fiasco with Gaga is on production. They should’ve come up with a much glitzier way to introduce a legend than wheeling her on and off the stage. She and Gaga could’ve been revealed as already on stage, draped in Hollywood magic. Gaga made the most out of a thankless situation.

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by Anonymousreply 102October 6, 2025 7:09 PM

[quote]They should’ve come up with a much glitzier way to introduce a legend than wheeling her on and off the stage.

The reunited Mavis Turner Tappers from "Stepping Out"?

by Anonymousreply 103October 6, 2025 7:57 PM

I hope she reveals whatever became of Jimmy Thompson. She’s one of the last who might know.

by Anonymousreply 104October 6, 2025 8:00 PM

Liza is going to get flack from the wheelchair community if she thinks she was mistreated at the Oscars being in one.

by Anonymousreply 105October 6, 2025 8:33 PM

Feinstein told HER she was humiliated. She didn’t know where she was or in a wheelchair or on her living room sofa.

by Anonymousreply 106October 6, 2025 8:40 PM

I guess she’ll be making the rounds of the talk shows to promote it. Maybe a book signing tour as well?

by Anonymousreply 107October 6, 2025 8:46 PM

Maybe Stephen Colbert will come out to California to interview Liza as he did with me.

by Anonymousreply 108October 6, 2025 8:48 PM

I broke my knee!

by Anonymousreply 109October 6, 2025 8:58 PM

I hope that with the book tour comes more jewelry!

by Anonymousreply 110October 6, 2025 9:11 PM

[quote] I guess she’ll be making the rounds of the talk shows to promote it. Maybe a book signing tour as well?

What good is shitting alone in your room?

by Anonymousreply 111October 6, 2025 9:19 PM

[quote]I guess she’ll be making the rounds of the talk shows to promote it. Maybe a book signing tour as well?

I'm guessing she will book a lot of talk shows to promote it and say she's doing a book tour, but will cancel everything once it's all supposed to get going. The last thing she will want on any talk show or any bookstore is people focused more on her being 80 than any incoherent nonsense in her book.

by Anonymousreply 112October 6, 2025 9:52 PM

Liza is poorer than Jackie on Assistance!

She sold her Warhols and is living under the Golden Gate Bridge. Michael told her it was the Savoy in London. She keeps asking when Elaine Stritch is going to come up for cocktails.

by Anonymousreply 113October 6, 2025 9:52 PM

R112, if she does promotion, it will be REMOTELY. Remotely with a prepared speech and the usual “it was swell” shit. I can’t see anyone other than local daytime shows wanting that. Colbert?. Don’t make me laugh.

by Anonymousreply 114October 6, 2025 11:10 PM

Don't forget Feinstein will have to be with her at all times as well R114.

by Anonymousreply 115October 6, 2025 11:21 PM

Will she talk about borrowing poppers from Halston at studio 54?

by Anonymousreply 116October 7, 2025 12:00 AM

She may not be able to talk at all by 2026, R116 : (

by Anonymousreply 117October 7, 2025 12:05 AM

"This book is lovingly dedicated to Georgia, and to all my other mentors like her."

by Anonymousreply 118October 7, 2025 12:06 AM

By all accounts, she has a very faulty memory. And the publisher, Hachette, is substandard. Will probably be more dull than fun.

by Anonymousreply 119October 7, 2025 12:18 AM

[quote]Sorry, but this looks low rent,

The chapter on "Rent-a-Cop" promises to be quite glamorous.

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by Anonymousreply 120October 7, 2025 12:26 AM

I betcha Gayle King will score the 'big interview' with the help of Oprah. And then King will live to regret it, trying to get 15-20 minutes of something worth of coherent interest from her.

by Anonymousreply 121October 7, 2025 1:01 AM

I will be working on the space station next March and unavailable for celebrity interviews.

by Anonymousreply 122October 7, 2025 1:08 AM

"Working with Kermit the Frog in 'The Muppets Take Manhattan' was sensational--a true dream come true---, but I couldn't understand why he wouldn't hang out with me off-set."

--chapter XXIV

by Anonymousreply 123October 7, 2025 1:10 AM

R121, they will edit. Four hrs of interviews on seven consecutive days = eight minutes of usable interview.

by Anonymousreply 124October 7, 2025 1:53 AM

RuPaul paid Liza a wonderful tribute earlier this year

R102 - Gawd that is really slumming. But then again didn't Barbra use Jim Bailey at one of her concerts?

by Anonymousreply 125October 7, 2025 5:47 AM

I hope she reveals whatever became of Jimmy Thompson. She’s one of the last who might know.

R104 - What's that all about?

by Anonymousreply 126October 7, 2025 5:49 AM

From an old thread:

[quote]Handsome singer/dancer Jimmy Thompson was said to be a "protégé" of Gene Kelly, and appeared in several Kelly movies, though not much else. He sang "Beautiful Girl" in Singin in the Rain, but his singing was dubbed in Brigadoon. He worked as a dancer with Kay Thompson on her stage shows in the 1950s, but seems to have disappeared after that. His last movie role was in Forbidden Planet in 1956.

by Anonymousreply 127October 7, 2025 6:01 AM

Is the movie she complains about "Judy" with Renee Zellweger? She claimed she wouldn't see that.

I don't know why. I thought it was a pretty sympathetic portrayal of Garland.

by Anonymousreply 128October 7, 2025 11:29 AM

[quote]I don't know why. I thought it was a pretty sympathetic portrayal of Garland.

But it was a fantasy. There was no actual gay couple. The kids were years older in real life in 1968 than in the film. The costumes were cheap versions of the originals. And while her performance was enjoyable in places, Rene didn't have Garland's doe eyes, so we got a lot of squinting.

by Anonymousreply 129October 7, 2025 12:48 PM

[quote] so we got a lot of squinting.

Well it is Renée Zellweger.

by Anonymousreply 130October 7, 2025 12:54 PM

Get real, Liza never saw the movie and would never see the movie, even if it was good.

by Anonymousreply 131October 7, 2025 1:21 PM

It would be great if Michael gets the tapes mixed up and he includes Mama s angry tape.

by Anonymousreply 132October 7, 2025 1:51 PM

Liza is very protective of Judy’s legacy and doesn’t Judy being portrayed as a mentally ill junkie with no self awareness or control.

by Anonymousreply 133October 7, 2025 2:36 PM

Will Liza talk about Mel torme's book

by Anonymousreply 134October 7, 2025 2:46 PM

[quote] doesn’t Judy being portrayed as a mentally ill junkie with no self awareness or control.

A pill-popping no-talent better off forgotten, not an artist on the level of Sinatra or Picasso or Callas.

by Anonymousreply 135October 7, 2025 3:19 PM

Judy told Liza not to sing her songs. Will that be in the book?

by Anonymousreply 136October 7, 2025 3:33 PM

[quote]A pill-popping no-talent better off forgotten, not an artist on the level of...Picasso

It's true there's no evidence of Judy mastering Cubism, but then Picasso never played Carnegie Hall to legendary acclaim.

by Anonymousreply 137October 7, 2025 3:49 PM

Liza is very protective of Judy’s legacy and doesn’t Judy being portrayed as a mentally ill junkie with no self awareness or control.

R133 - a mentally ill junkie with no self awareness or control sounds like Liza.

by Anonymousreply 138October 7, 2025 3:57 PM

I wish all Liza Minnelli ancient queens who infest this board would be shot in their wrinkled fucking faces.

by Anonymousreply 139October 7, 2025 4:16 PM

[quote]A pill-popping no-talent better off forgotten, not an artist on the level of Sinatra or Picasso or Callas.

Your ignorance is astounding.

BTW Sinatra, Picasso and Callas all had substance abuse issues.

by Anonymousreply 140October 7, 2025 8:36 PM

Picasso was a woman-beating misogynist pig and a nasty prick. Great artist, but horrible person.

by Anonymousreply 141October 7, 2025 8:36 PM

R140, see R1 of the below-linked thread. It’s an old DL meme.

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by Anonymousreply 142October 7, 2025 8:45 PM

I have never heard or read that Callas had substance abuse issues. What substance?

by Anonymousreply 143October 7, 2025 8:51 PM

Tapeworms, r143.

by Anonymousreply 144October 7, 2025 8:57 PM

I hope it’s absolutely filthy

by Anonymousreply 145October 7, 2025 9:00 PM

How about DL fave Miss Streisand? Very little booze, several cigarettes but not a habit, and only pills prescribed temporarily by a medical professional.

by Anonymousreply 146October 7, 2025 9:50 PM

Barbra smoked off and on in the 60s and 70s but that was very common back then.

by Anonymousreply 147October 7, 2025 10:11 PM

[quote]Picasso was a woman-beating misogynist pig and a nasty prick. Great artist, but horrible person.

He was a sweet and gentle lover with me.

by Anonymousreply 148October 7, 2025 10:27 PM

I know she smoked, r147, but in Funny Lady she doesn't inhale.

by Anonymousreply 149October 7, 2025 10:44 PM

[quote]I have never heard or read that Callas had substance abuse issues. What substance?

Pasta

by Anonymousreply 150October 7, 2025 10:53 PM

She smoked plenty, R149, and DID inhale.

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by Anonymousreply 151October 7, 2025 11:16 PM

^ between scenes of The Owl and the Pussycat.

by Anonymousreply 152October 7, 2025 11:17 PM

I didn't say she didn't, r151, just that she didn't in Funny Lady. It was just something we noticed.

by Anonymousreply 153October 7, 2025 11:19 PM

Speaking of Barbra smoking, she smoked in the craptastic video for Left In the Dark again, another craptastic Jim Steinman opus that was coming off the heels of his other craptastic opus, Total Eclipse Of the Heart. TEOH had been such a huge monster hit but LITDA didn't duplicate its success.

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by Anonymousreply 154October 7, 2025 11:41 PM

When ugly girls don’t get ice cream, they turn to smoking.

by Anonymousreply 155October 7, 2025 11:47 PM

[quote]Will Liza talk about Mel torme's book

With everything else she could possibly talk about, why would she even bother to mention that mostly forgotten hatchet job? Torme had an ax to grind. No doubt he had his reasons, but who cares 60 years later?

by Anonymousreply 156October 7, 2025 11:51 PM

[quote]Torme had an ax to grind.

He did credit Garland with coming up with the concept for her duet with Streisand.

by Anonymousreply 157October 7, 2025 11:54 PM

See, r154, there she blows out the smoke *then* inhales.

by Anonymousreply 158October 7, 2025 11:54 PM

Bette Davis didn't really inhale either.

by Anonymousreply 159October 7, 2025 11:55 PM

Oh yes she did, r159.

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by Anonymousreply 160October 8, 2025 12:02 AM

In those videos Barbra used cigarettes as props to look cool. In real life she used cigarettes to feed a habit, and in the 1960s, Elliott Gould also provided second hand smoke 24/7 for her to inhale. Why do people mention this? Because Barbra CLAIMS she gave up smoking as a 9 year old, or something, over and over in her memoir. Either she’s lying or has no memory left.

by Anonymousreply 161October 8, 2025 12:15 AM

r160 Bette's "Dead Ringer" wig was one of the ugliest fucking wigs of all time. And she wore that wig in her personal life for some time afterward.

by Anonymousreply 162October 8, 2025 12:33 AM

There are candid photos of Barbra with a cig in her hand from the 60s and 7s.

by Anonymousreply 163October 8, 2025 12:33 AM

Barbra's preferred brand was unfiltered Pall Mall. Fucking hardcore!

by Anonymousreply 164October 8, 2025 12:34 AM

It was no-nonsense and she wasn't a glamour girl, r162.

by Anonymousreply 165October 8, 2025 12:35 AM

The Judy stans on this thread are pretty hard to take.

r156: stand down, queen!

by Anonymousreply 166October 8, 2025 12:37 AM

How have Judy Garland and Streisand managed to take over this thread about Liza Minnelli?

by Anonymousreply 167October 8, 2025 12:54 PM

Maybe because Judy and Barbra have always managed to upstage Liza.

by Anonymousreply 168October 8, 2025 2:58 PM

Yet Liza told that anecdote on Donahue when she was performing in a Judy concert where Judy became less and less enthusiastic because she was jealous.

by Anonymousreply 169October 8, 2025 5:09 PM

I’ll never believe that Judy was jealous shit. Judy needed a drink and a smoke.

by Anonymousreply 170October 8, 2025 5:28 PM

She should have called it “Papa and Mama: The Fag and the Hag.”

by Anonymousreply 171October 8, 2025 5:48 PM
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