‘And Just Like That’ season 3— Thread 2

Wait. Where's the first thread?

Im shocked another thread is needed, as I am still at this show continuing.

R1 here. Just almost done

And Just Like Crap!

ANOTHER KFC appearance/mention? Lol. Of all businesses to seek product placement in the SATC universe - I just don't get it.

Episode 3 was mixed for me. I can't warm to Aiden. I never liked him, but he's even worse now.

What is this whole thing with his kids? Jesus. Carrie can't stay in the main house? I assume he's addicted to adderall, which a stupid arc.

Carrie continues to be a black hole of narcissism. Seema- I'm trying to make a major decision about my career and life, Carrie - OMG I'm in the exact same predicament, Aiden didn't ask me to stay the night.

Miranda looked good in the date scene.

Harry pissing himself was ridiculous as is Charlotte's entire storyline in this series.

Loved Charlotte’s scenes this episode

I enjoy harry

Was Harry pissing himself foreshadowing a prostate cancer scare/death, otherwise that was cruel to do to the actor and painful to watch and I watched all of the Rosie and Cynthia sex scene AND Carrie fingering herself.

Ryan Serhant is a real jump the shark type of cameo.

John Corbett is good for a very specific type of role, a role which is not the romantic interest of this kind of woman.

He was believable in My Big Fat Greek Wedding and Lana Condor's father in the To All the Boys movies.

But, there's no way someone like Carrie and her vapid friends would ever see Aidan as a catch, hot though he may be.

Also, who pisses themselves and just goes back and acts casual?

yeah, it's pretty clear Aiden is a big fail on this. I guess they were hoping, well, kill the one guy and the other guy comes back and it's all good. But no, it's not all good. It's pretty much all suck.

They clearly want us to side eye Aidan. They aren’t even being subtle about it r14. They’re building up that storyline in a very serialized way.

R13 someone who doesn’t want the people around him to notice before he leaves

Maybe you're right, although everyone's also side-eyeing Carrie throughout this shit, being her usual tunnel vision, dumb bitch self.

And speaking of that, I hate the way she has a snarky comeback for every fucking thing that anybody says to her, but anybody pointing out what a dumbfuck she's being about Aiden is supposed to be committing some horrifying faux pas.

But I guess that's intentional too.

Carrie has always been that way though

After she ends it with Aiden - again - maybe they should bring Pertovsky and that can end again too. Oh wait, Jack Berger has to reappear first.

Berger was awful

The writers didn't know what to do with Berger.

I agree, but I'd still like to see what they'd do with a Berger redux. Would it be as lame as revisiting Aiden?

They did plenty with Berger. He was a jealous loser

“ Berger redux”

More like burger reflux

Anthony has become a boring stereotype. Something Cantone is not. I hope he's getting paid really well, because he's making a fool of himself playing a cliche.

True r24, and the thing is, this is an incredibly gay show with an incredibly gay group of people connected to it. Nobody could be bothered to come up with anything more interesting than he's drooling over a much younger, much hotter guy and if he could just get that hot guy involved in his sexy bakery (which, well, fuck) everyone will come flocking to it. Pathetic and lazy.

Be thankful he’s even there and STFU. Gays have always been treated as handbags on the OG show and hardly given their own stories. They’re actually trying to give him SOMETHING

And Cantone is very much stereotypical.

Do better, AJLT. And you too, Cynthia Nixon. You tried to shove a stupid nonbinary whatever the fuck that was in there. Now try insisting on an actual gay man.

R28 why? You keep complaining about woke.

I have never complained about "woke."

R10 Harry looks like shit, he aged like cream under a hot chicken coop.

I’d like to see Carrie meet some duds again in dating. Plenty of older guys have problems too

I’m enjoying it.

Who the fuck is casting actors for this freak show?

A lot of fat people in this latest episode.

sJP looks anorexic for real. If she weighed 90 pounds I’d be surprised

Carrie is going to end up fucking the "gardener" isn't she? Aidan is so boring (more than the writers intended.)

God I hate this show and hate myself for watching it.

Isn't Seema going to fuck the gardener?

[quote] True [R24], and the thing is, this is an incredibly gay show with an incredibly gay group of people connected to it. Nobody could be bothered to come up with anything more interesting than he's drooling over a much younger, much hotter guy and if he could just get that hot guy involved in his sexy bakery (which, well, fuck) everyone will come flocking to it.

The problem is, all the gay men on the show are portrayed as something that belongs in a 90s sitcom. Tired cliches, "zingers" you've heard one too many times and got thoroughly tired of them back in 2006 or so, etc. I'm in my 50s, was a fan of the original show, but the gay content in this reboot is dated as fuck.

R39 A ...um, possible... defense of that is that all the characters look like they are ready for assisted living.

promo

The gardener is a butter face. The new owner of the realty company is super hot.

That was Ryan Serhant, R42.

This is an interesting take on why the show sucks. Watch it at 1.25+ speed and you still get the gist of it without having to take more time than needed.

No one Carrie’s age and 00 size eats like she does. The character eats like a fat chick.

R42 hi Ryan 👋

Carrie doesn’t eat like a fat chick.

The gay stuff is old because MPK is over 70. He has no idea what young gay men do for fun. And forget about sex. That ended for him long ago.

Young gay men. Is Anthony suddenly young?

Alas, there's the rub.

I’m glad we got more Anthony.

I enjoyed this episode. They are finally getting the show tone in a more pleasant, breezy place. They even used the other characters better this time.

The original show was realistic as far as diversity. White girls hang with White girls. Black girls hang with Black girls. Generally speaking. They had a lot of gay characters, Charlotte became a Jew, they had a few Black storylines. They had Samantha dating a Latina lesbian. They took the criticisms of the original too seriously.

This last episode was written by someone who’s Wikipedia says she

“Is known for her struggles with and has been open about her struggles with Crohn's disease, degenerative arthritis, and depression, often discussing her experiences in her writing. She is friends with writers Roxane Gay and Lindy West.”

Again I ask: why is Carrie so desperate?

She’s rich, fabulous, has fun friends and a great life.

Yet she’s scrounging around for scraps from AIDEN, of all people. He isn’t exactly a catch.

R53 He’s a rebound guy.

She didn’t want Aiden even 30 years ago when he was hotter and not such a dishrag

It would be kind of funny if everyone Carrie is now in a serious relationship dies.

Yeah and now he those psycho kids? I hate that the internet hates SJP, she's delightful in interviews, she's a good liberal and she pulled herself from utter poverty and I think she's really pretty. But I laughed when she said sleep standing up in the field like a horse? I bet she laughed too

SJP isn’t the perfect angel you describe.

I know of someone who was doing her hair or makeup (that wasn’t the most important part of the story) who has vowed to never again work with SJP because she was so awful.

[quote]Idc how “bad” it is.

And wdc how you have not yet risen in your communications to the concept of camp, without which you just sound like someone with bad taste!

But is it the camp value you like, or are you doing the "I watch it because I watch it and the familiarity makes it work," as (reportedly) happens with soaps lovers?

Just curious. I wish I still enjoyed it, But without Sam...

Was your friend talking about SJP’s personality, or the work itself, r58.

I would imagine it takes hours of work to make that desiccated, emaciated old horse resemble something under the age of 70. All that spackle and hair extensions….

Said she was “a nightmare.”

Details R58?

Just thought this thread needed some context

Serhan the epitome of the Insufferable Lying Realtor Queen. Although he is supposedly not gay. Lying Realtor is a pleonasm, of course.

I bet Andy Cohen suggested the casting of that twat Serhant to his bff SJP.

How long before the ladies are going to Countess Luann’s cabaret show?

Now THAT I would watch, r65.

Why did the writers turn Miranda's life into Cynthia Nixon's real life. I guess Nixon was too lazy to do it any other way with all the work involved in the Gilded Age. They couldn't afford to lose her and Catrall.

They weren’t going to lose her.

This show pays her far more per ipsode than she can command elsewhere. By an order of magnitude.

Good Lord. There's 3 seasons of this shit already??!

Cynthia is very activist-minded, first and foremost, so when she was able to get some control in order to sign on to the show, these were her suggestions, if not demands. It’s disrespectful to the original writers and audience.

You killed Kim Cattrall and now you're trying to stab me in the back? Forget it!

The show has familiarity, but the characters are pretty much a bore now that they are no longer chasing men and fashion. Seema is not a good fit and the documentary film maker who gets up at 5am to work on her 8 year masterpiece and with a husband running for City Council, would NEVER have the time to hang with these women, and certainly not go to Anthony's big dick bread store when it opened. Time is value in NYC and these women just spend too much time together doing odd shit.

And that documentary she's been working on for 8 years looks boring as FUCK.

BTW I didn't know she used to be married to Eddie Murphy.

Because she wasn’t …

We shall now refrain from ever discussing R73’s stupidity.

Hint: all Black women don’t look alike, even with the same given name.

OMFG I only said that because some stupid frau at work told me!! Ugh this is why one should never listen to fraus.

R73 is dead to all of us

During SATC, I could relate or see myself in some of the characters at times. I cannot relate in any way to the current characters. I keep watching, though. I think it’s nostalgia—even though this is a very different show.

I don't understand what r74's link means.

To be fair, the women having the free time to get together the way they do was always out of step with how New Yorkers live. Most friend groups are lucky to get together once every other month, and it’s always scheduled to the minute. The casual hang doesn’t really exist in New York City.

Ok Carrie — we get you ^

r74^^

R80, Nicole Ari Parker (NAP), who plays Lisa Todd Wexley (LTW) on And Just Like That (AJLT) is married to Boris Kodjoe (BK) - for 20 years now.

R73 is the type of poster who brings bullshit bagels to the Datalounge morning meet-up. No bullshit bagels, R73!

The bread store business is so bizarre to me. Bread? Really? Not believable in the slightest.

In the most recent episode, didn't Carrie actually make some sort of horse joke, or did I imagine it? When she was in the truck with Aiden? I remember thinking, "holy shit, no she didn't!." I wish I could remember the exact comment, but I'd have to re-watch that episode and I can't put myself through it.

Yes, she made a joke about sleeping in the field like a horse

Her son has the same long face

Lisa Todd Wexley played a WHORE in Boogie Nights.

Did she show her bosoms in Boogie Nights?

How could anybody confuse goofy Eddie Murphy with that gorgeous man

[quote]Did she show her bosoms in Boogie Nights?

No. But Julianne Moore did - seriously!

She played a porn star. She seems prettier now.

We are doomed ….

A fake HotFellas opens as a real pop-up in lower Manhattan. HBO Max exec claims it’s a cultural touchstone….

Aha I saw that article earlier today. I had to laugh when they ask the actor playing Anthony's boyfriend whether he uses a prosthetic.

Sebastiano Pigazzi’s nonno

R89 She was 'chocolate love', a pron star, not a whore.

What happened to the other black female character? The professor?

R98 they wrote her out. Her chef friend showed up after he cooked that dinner party at Carrie's and she got a fellowship or honor or something. That was it.

Was anyone else pissed at how they were "eating" KFC this past episode? Tearing off skin, taking one (fake) bite, putting the whole piece down and then grabbing the next hugest piece when they didn't eat the last? It really pissed me off.

She had multiple projects that she chose instead of AJLT.

She had her dignity.

No, "how" they were eating KFC didn't really bother me. I'm just perplexed that KFC keeps popping up in SATC. With with the comic book store guy, with Aiden, with Seema.

No woman would want Aiden. I’m surprised he’s not broke too with all his bullshit

Aka a WHORE, R97.

R99 = Colonel Sanders.

Wyatt is giving off school shooter vibes.

Dump Aiden's sorry, skinny ass!

Is Wyatt autistic?

Red alert: there's a Charlotte and Harry sex scene and he can't get it up.

They have no idea what to do with LTW.

One of the worst television shows I can recall watching in recent memory. Not a single laugh to be had. Writing so amateurish and without a hint of irony. More ugly people in one cast than possibly any show on television.

How did this disaster get greenlit and renewed?

R111: Because we keep watching.

Poor Harris Yulin. Great actor who just passed away and his last credit is 'Pop POP.'

Carrie didn’t even buckle up the helmet when driving the ATV. In an accident it would just fly off. You may as well have Alec Baldwin on set with a loaded pistol if those are the safety standards.

I hope they paid Evan Handler extra to take his clothes off. That was brutal.

How bad was it?!

Well, Wyatt is a little shit. Of course, the daughter's boyfriend is poly and neither parent is even slightly concerned or appalled.🙄

Aidan will surprise Carrie when she's in the sack with someone else.

I've seen enough lesbo scenes with Miranda. Will LTW screw Marion or will Seema hook up with him? He'll, even Carrie.

I don’t have a vagina, so I don’t watch AJLT. But a friend has one and so apparently she’s required by law to watch.

She recently said to me, “I have to stop hate-watching And Just Like That, and instead I have to just stop watching And Just Like That.”

Why does Lisa sleep in her wig?

R117 that bad! Got it.

R119 go be a bigot somewhere else far, far away

The actors playing Aiden's kids are dreadful. But it's nice to see Mrs Jack Berger as Cathy.

Sorry but I laughed at "Wild Cunt." That whole storyline felt like classic Miranda, except the love object was a woman and I'm fine with that. But LTW avd Seema have no connection to the show. They truly can be edited out and nothing changes. And this show has way too many characters. Truly--how many people were in this episode? Far, far too many.. The writers should be embarrassed. There are moments where they get close to making something good but they make all the wrong choices almost all the time.

I wonder if Steve will make an appearance this season.

The opening scene with Carrie wearing those ridiculous shoes at 60 years old after a hip replacement?

Uh, no

Why are all they gay guys completely insufferable in this show?

Just you wait. …just like that…a crossover with Chicago Fire.

Carrie’s flight makes an aborted landing at ORD. Chaos ensues. Who shows up: NBC’s Wednesday line up.

[quote] That whole storyline felt like classic Miranda

You mean rude, nasty, unlikable and ugly?

Evan Handler's only 64. Does he have The Cancer?

I really thought this awful show would be a laughable parade of Botox and fillers. After watching it, they really need to massively increase the cosmetic injections budget.

Everyone is horribly wrinkled and deflated. They are all so hard to look at. It’s worse than “The Conners.”

Charlotte’s husband could turn any gay man straight. He’s that gross. And Semen, who’s supposed to be the new Samantha, is so terrible as a character and I can’t tell if the actress is just untalented or the writing is so bad no performer could salvage it. Probably both.

Put it out if it’s misery.

Semen Patel. That has possibilities to be and endless meme on the DL.

She dated Kevin Bacon!

Nobody on this show fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch more than Brady, Miranda's son.

When will we see the very special episode where Wyatt shoots up the school?

R131 you know she spit out his load. Duh

R133 done. He was the missing guy in The Pitt.

R133, first he steals the key Carrie gave Aidan, steals the ATV and drives up to Gramercy Park and blows Carrie's head off. He mercifully leaves Shoe alive but nothing to worry about there, he'll feast on Carrie's face. And it'll be a week or so after he shoots up his school and blows his own head off before anybody notices they haven't heard from Carrie, and that's because deep down, nobody really wants to spend time with her. Miranda goes Emiment Domain on the Gramercy Park house and converts it into a Late-In-Life-Lesbian hostel.

R136 was beaten by R135 in every sense.

Stop TIA

New York Times Episode 4 recap.

I like Seema, but she is way too man-faced.

I don’t give one flying fuck about the Wild and Wonderful Whites of West Virginia.

Why is Carrie hanging out with these awful hillbillies? She didn’t want idiot Aiden the first time around.

DESPERADO!

R136, a late in life Lesbian hostel would never cover Gramercy Park real estate taxes. It’s probably going to be converted into 98,000 a year school for nonbinary celebrity kids with Hilaria teaching Spanish.

The best part of this episode was shirtless Chris Jackson. The worst part was shirtless Evan Handler.

I don’t watch the Pitt, R137.

Stop, TIA.

Best,

R136

Am I correct in noticing that none of the women had any scenes together in this episode? Have they all begun to hate each other that much?

Really not a bad episode.

SJP looked beautiful in that yellow dress.

WILD CUNT! WILD CUNT! WILD CUNT! WILD CUNT!

R140 doesn't know how residential property taxes are levied in NYC. Usually quite reasonable.

R125 "Why are all the gay guys completely insufferable in this show". In the original they got the fags and hags the wrong way round. That frigid Karen cock-tease Charlotte would never hang out with that low-rent Jersey Mafia shopping-bottom - where he'd be perfect for Carrie!

The Aiden family blowup scene was pretty good. Whereas the Park Avenue family scene was ridiculous.

A 10M+ house in the Gramercy Park neighborhood has an annual property tax bill of $192,500, R145.

Ryan Serhant an actor now? A bit more than a cameo from last week. The show has jumped the shark. Seema has zippo in common with the others. The ex-wife going behind Aiden's back for Carrie to bring Adderall is another strange storyline. Harry is impotent. Charlotte soon to tell the ladies at their next coffee klatch. Lisa Todd Wexler tells her sleep deprived hubby her new editor is a guy but leaves out he looks like a guy Diddy would pay money to fuck Cassie at a freak off. I think it safe to say that the Emmy's will not be knocking on SJP's door with a bunch of nominations. Just lazy writing and leaves you wondering how it got to this. Will MAX give it a season 4? I would be really surprised if there is another.

There will be a season 4 as long as we keep watching the Hindenburg going down.

How much do they pay the New York Times to publish these recaps?

R148 put down the glass pipe…pleeze.

How much is it then R151? Are you in real estate?

The median annual residential property tax in NY County (that’s Manhattan for you yahoos in flyoverstan) is…~$17,000.

For the Manhattan Math Genius.

The median home sale price in Manhattan is 1.4 M.

“Harry is impotent. Charlotte soon to tell the ladies at their next coffee klatch.”

Charlotte has a way of turning off a man’s dick.

Ryan Serhant was an actor before he got into real estate. I think he did soaps. He's terrible. Way too smarmy. If they keep him around they can pair him up with Cantone.

R154 what’s your point me all the definition of median.

For the idiot on this thread who quoted a ridiculous amount of tax, not knowing that the “mansion” transfer tax is NOT the same as the property tax. The property tax on a $10mm Class 1 townhouse is very reasonable.

Is anyone watching this show besides us? They shouldn’t have changed the name. A lot of people will never even make the connection.

Please guys, go to Zillow. Find a mansion in Gramercy Park on the market and look at the tax. The one listed for $11M has an annual tax of $106,620. Carrie’s house on the park is at least $20M.

Zillow? Zillow! 🤣

Here’s a random Gramercy townhouse. You’re way off on the property tax.

Try harder

I don't know how they do it, the episodes just get worse and worse. LTW and Seema are not a substitute for Samantha. Carrie and Aiden have ZERO chemistry. I can't buy that they even like each other.

This episode was so horrifically bad that DL has resorted to discussing property taxes to avoid the actual content.

I really thought Carrie was sitting Aiden down to tell him, "The stars didn't align. Yes, you need to stay at the farm, but I know firsthand life is short and I can't wait five years." But, no! This unsatisfying and untenable arrangement will continue!!

I don't even like her much, but it's sad to see Carrie willfully ignore all the red flags in front of her. Boyfriend Bob flat out told her that it took four years for them to tolerate him and he's still not allowed to have an opinion.

Since they allowed Kristin Davis to keep her bra on during the sex/bedtime scene, they should have allowed Evan Handler to keep his undershirt on. No one needed to see that.

It's astonishing how fucking boring LTW's story is. The most interesting that she did was use mouthwash BEFORE brushing.

Why does Lisa sleep in her wig? R119

Yes she slept with a babushka last season.

As much as I loathe Cynthia Nixon I will say that she's aged the best and Miranda is back to being Miranda. Goofy, insecure and sabotaging potential relationships.

Is there a director on this series? Every episode has characters standing around saying lines to each other without an ounce of recognition. The only scene that was competently directed in episode 4 was the Wyatt blow-up scene and frankly, I couldn't care less of I ever saw that ugly-ass kid again. Naturally, with MPK at the helm, he'll probably disappear until the season finale. There is nothing going on in these episodes except people with too much fucking money behaving badly. I'm over all of them.

Bob was a sad sack and from his words I kind of think Aidan isn't as nice as were supposed to think. No one else involved with the family is allowed to have an opinion or give advice. Red flag about this clan.

I always found Aiden passive-aggressive.

Aidan is a pussy. The fact that this Cunt of a girlfriend cheated on him, and he let her buy out the apartment that he owned with basically no upside for him? And he came over to fix the stupid fucking thing for her while she demanded that he would forgive her?

Fuck him

Aiden would have been a much more interesting character if their first choice, Aiden Quinn, had accepted the role. I have a feeling the writers made this Aiden a cornball because that's what Corbett is and you know he improvised a lot of Aiden's goofy remarks. Quinn would have been sexy and more believable as someone Carrie would be interested in.

I was the best choice for the role. Just shootin’ the shit here

Moar is betta

[quote] Everyone is horribly wrinkled and deflated. They are all so hard to look at. It’s worse than “The Conners.”

If aging bothers you so much, what the hell are you doing watching TV shows which are sequels to shows from the 1990s and 2000s with the same actors?

Evan Handler looks like a big old ugly infant. There's nothing sexy there unless youre into kiddies. Every time they get him undressed it's so awkward.

You should see what he looked like with hair.

quote]Every episode has characters standing around saying lines to each other without an ounce of recognition.

I loved the scene where Carrie goes into the kitchen to discuss the Adderall. It didn't even register to her that she was standing in front of a cake full of burning/melting candles. Yeah, "not tonight," you oblivious "cunt" (word of the episode! Everyone scream real loud!).

“You should see what he looked like with hair.”

I have thought for a long time that Evan handler is the guy in this blockbuster training video from the 90s. He first shows up clearly about1:30

R178 just see the Afterschool Special upthread. It will curl your toes

Also: you’re blind— that’s nothing like Handler, not in the least. Sad.

Evan Handler was diagnosed with a form of leukemia when he was 24. He's been in remission since the late 90s.

R167, I think the Keebler Elf wrote and directed last night's episode.

Yup, it's all down to Keebs.

Ryan Serhant is totally my physical type — fair, WASPy, green-eyed. I want to spank the smugness out of him until he begs me to fuck him (a scenario he’s probably not unfamiliar with).

While this is far from the best series streaming (and far from the best streaming on Max) I find it a very easy, entertaining watch. And this episode, which you’re all howling over, was the best of the season so far. The depiction of a family — blended and dysfunctional — that is nevertheless so tight that outsiders can never feel part of it, seemed credible. So did the way things played out with Aidan’s family during Carrie’s visit. And though Carrie should have broken it off then and there, at least she knows what she’s up against.

The other character arcs were given enough screen time to set up the rest of the season (and yes, the trailer for the upcoming episodes suggests that Steve makes at least one appearance). Honestly, you whiners are far worse and certainly more boringly predictable than the bitches on this series.

Are you into Greek? Ryan likes it Greek.

Carrie pouting “I feel like I’m not allowed to touch my head” like a small child makes me want to smack her.

She mostly seemed miffed to not be the center of Aiden’s attention.

Granted, it was fucked up for Aiden to tell her not to make the kid “feel bad” about smacking Carrie. It didn’t look accidental.

Aiden needs to deal with his fucked up family and stop trying to date. The kids don’t need the extra stress and he shouldn’t be dragging other people (dates) into his mess.

But he shouldn’t ask Carrie or anyone else to put their life on hold. He’s the worst combination— a clueless, bumbling oaf who is also controlling.

R185, Yes, I totally am. After I tan his hide beet red.

Get in line

The show is unwatchable, let’s write a list of people to blame:

1.) Michael Patrick King. He deserves the most blame.

2.) Sarah Jessica Parker. She has an army of yes men and fraus who tell her how fabulous she is, so I really don’t think she grasps how much she shot the legacy down the tubes.

3.) Cynthia Nixon. She demanded the show be diverse, she demanded that be sexually active with Che and demanded most of what has ruined the character and the show.

4.) Kristin Davis. The lowest on the totem pole. She had the opportunity though to stand up for the fans and legacy and chose to be SJP’s instagram bestie instead.

5.) Mario Cantone. He shit all over his “friend” Kim Cattrall, even though he knew deep down they all did her dirty. He chose SJP as well.

6.) Darren Star. He should have swallowed his pride and stayed with the show. By leaving everything to MPK, he ruined his legacy also.

Why are all of the kids so strange? Wyatt, Brady, Rock? Poly boyfriend. Oddballs all around.

Poor Evan. You'd think someone in remission from cancer would do something about keeping his body in shape. He looks like he hasn't been to gym since Nicol Williamson whacked him on the ass.(1991)

R190 they are all touched by an angel. It’s a white people’s thing,

If MPK had any balls, they'd show Lily's boyfriend's boyfriend.

It was very nice of Wyatt to rake the windows. I’m glad to see him doing his chores without being asked.

[quote]Why are all of the kids so strange? Wyatt, Brady, Rock? Poly boyfriend. Oddballs all around.

No kidding. Even the gardener’s nephew, who appeared briefly in last week’s episode, appeared to be autistic.

FWIW, Brady isn’t strange; he’s just unfortunate looking.

I can't figure out if OP's pic of that hideous Marjorie Taylor Greene shows her looking a little better or worse than usual.

I have yet to hate watch this season

R197 Pretty much the same here. I watched the S3 premiere and decided I couldn’t even hate watch it any more. I’m enjoying these DL threads far more than I’ve ever enjoyed anything about AJLT.

SJP is just making things worse by pretending a) it’s art and b) there is nothing wrong with the product.

Carrie never mentions Big which is weird. It's unrealistic that he wouldn't be mentioned given how she's living off his money for the most part. No one cares about the annoying offspring.

There is nothing relatable or realistic about the LTW character. She just seems like a complete fantasy figure they included to have a POC.

R200

This season has not mentioned:

Samantha

Naya

Che

Big

Stanford

Charlotte will not let her child go to Stanford.

[quote] 3.) Cynthia Nixon. She demanded the show be diverse, she demanded that be sexually active with Che and demanded most of what has ruined the character and the show.

She’s one of most mentally ill women on television. Both her and her always loathsome character. She makes everyone’s life she touches miserable. Toxic as fuck. And ugly as a Mississippi ditch pig.

Which is the other problem.

Diversity didn’t ruin the show (although it certainly didn’t help as forced and awful as it’s been). It’s the high-school-level writing and the inclusion of the homeliest cast of performers in the history of television.

Bone-ugly actors covered in wrinkles, crepey, spray-tanned skin, awful bodies and ghastly faces. There is not one cast member who is even somewhat physically attractive. Charlotte’s husband may be the ugliest man to take his shirt off in television history. He should be forbidden from removing so much as a cufflink moving forward in any program.

“Sex and the City” was a fun, science-fiction fantasy of New York with mostly pretty people (the guest stars and Kim Cattrall, primarily). This is like a zombie version awash with homely monsters.

I’m liking Seema more and more. She’s the best and ought to be in a different show.

She kind of is in a different show, really r205.

There's only one reason to watch this season...

...and yes, it has to be a prosthetic...

I have a feeling they don't mention Big because they all cut ties with Chris Noth after allegations were made right around the time season 1 premiered. He's only now starting to work again.

R207 he's just average looking at best. Pleasant, unremarkable features.

So Harry has prostate cancer?

I called Charlotte “prostate cancer” too.

R205 = Sarita Choudhury.

Did SJP get breast implants? They look pretty big now.

R214 I agree. I have heard breasts can get bigger in menopause. I just watched Babygirl and Nicole Kidman definitely has implants. It seems strange to get them in your 50’s…

Nicole Kidman first got implants after Dead Calm in 1989 where she was flat chested but a year later in Days of Thunder she’s got a rack.

Just watched: I really enjoyed this episode.

I’m attracted to older out of shape guys but what the hell is going on with charlottes husband? His arms are so thin and girleen

Aidan's kid is 21 and yet the family does the whole birthday cake and opening presents ritual as if he's turning 5.

No mention of Aiden's Speedstick collection? I bet at least one is an original

The only reason to keep watching is to wait for Guiseppe fucking Lilly’s poly boyfriend.

R219 lots of families keep doing the birthday cake and Presents ritual forever

My family does it, R222. I'm 52. It's a tradition that everyone likes. And the little kids love it.

Another tradition is applying the board of correction to the seat of learning when a kid - like Wyatt - breaks a window in a temper tantrum.

Wyatt really needs his ass kicked.

Unpopular opinion - Miranda is uglier than Carrie.

Wyatt should be institutionalized.

I have a guide for that, r226!

Wyatt needs to spend a weekend with Seema to understand how bad things really could be.

I'd snap Wyatt's dick off with my pussy.

That I would watch! No hate.

I see no glamour, only paella. That’s not how you win slams.

R225 imo Carrie is uglier than Miranda and Joy is uglier than both

Yes, r231. Miranda has a face like dropped paella

I am warming up to Seema. Hope she gets the gardener. And crushes Serhant.

Miranda is well dressed though.

I think Wyatt is Asperger’s and not ADHD.

I believe Nya took a job with the American Law Institute and Che I think moved on with that fellow non-binary creature.

Everyone on this production hates Kim Cattrall so of course they’re going to say as little as possible about Samantha. It is strange that there’ve been zero mentions of Big this season. I guess Carrie really has moved on.

[QUOTE] I guess Carrie really has moved on.

They all have.

Wonder how SJP feels about the fact that neither she nor the show are considered even long shots for Emmy noms.

Says a lot about the show’s quality.

She is laughing all the way to the bank.

Carrie throwing Southern phrases here and there because she was in Virginia seems ridiculous. She was not visiting Aiden in Tupelo Mississippi where the southern drawl is still a thing.

I knew MPK must have written this episode - packed to the rafters with trite references and outdated dialogue.

They could have dedicated it to Harris Yulin - a respected actor.

I imagine ole Harris would prefer his involvement with this stinker not receive much notice.

For all we know, it killed him.

No Steve mentions or appearances so far this season.

Steve was always dead weight. The fact that someone, *anyone*, would pick him over Dr. Robert (Blair Underwood) is within the realm of sci-fi.

Steve had already fucked a baby in my guts which muddled the math.

[quote] Everyone on this production hates Kim Cattrall so of course they’re going to say as little as possible about Samantha. It is strange that there’ve been zero mentions of Big this season. I guess Carrie really has moved on.

And all of that is a big problem. The needs and whims and opinions of the lead actors are everything, and the characters just kind of evaporate. Cynthia Nixon wanted to play herself and explore her sexuality in all its complex glory, so Che got inflicted on the universe, and everybody was ordered to love and adore Che until finally everybody realized this shit ain't working and "they" were mercifully dropped but now everybody has to pretend they never existed at all. And Chris Noth turned out to not be a saint, so even though Big was the love of Carrie's life until the day he died and she would normally at least mention the dead hubby now and again, maybe even wonder if she was kinda cheating on him like normal widows do, but now everybody has to send him down the memory hole, cause, um, you guys, we all like hate Chris now. And of course the same horseshit with Kim Catrell. She was our bestest, bestest, OMG bestest friend in the world and we were the four musketeers but now, um, Who?

I miss Mawanda.

I miss Steve.

Imagine getting pregnant and the father is a dud. I wouldn’t keep a baby unless the dad was a fine specimen

I miss the public.

The ratings are great!

I miss Steve.

I miss Steve

I Miss Steve.

I'll honestly be shocked if this gets renewed for a fourth season. There's no critical or audience love or awards and the ratings continue to decline with each season.

The wokest show on Earth of course is going to kill off all the white men. Looks like Harry has cancer.

“Looks like Harry has cancer.”

Its name is Charlotte.

R254 R255 R256 I Mist Eve

Was Skipper ever brought back?

We miss Skipper!!!

What happened to the actor who portrayed him?

Harry getting cancer is just a smidge insensitive if true given that Evan Handler, who plays Harry, is a long term leukemia survivor.

Maybe he couldn’t get it up because he’s getting old. It happens.

R261. He is still working.

A lot of men would have a hard time getting it up for charlotte in this era

Didn’t Harry have a cancer scare or some other penis/balls situation in another season?

If it’s just sixtysomething impotence then I can feel a whole “Charlotte shops for Viagra on the UES” not at all hilarious storyline coming along.

I think SJP looks great when she’s not dressed like an idiot.

In a snowstorm, R266.

I Honestly forget about skipper a lot of the time. The losers Miranda dated all seem to melt Together

Or maybe a tasteful semi-regid inner penile erectile pump? The comic possibilities are endless.

Skipper pioneered the Geico Cavemen commercial.

Is there a petition I can sign to bring him back in a cameo? Like Miranda’s Uber driver?

Btw., Skipper has a 9 inch schlong, which is the reason why Miranda kept him around for a while.

Why not have Carrie and Aiden open up a Christmas tree farm and have the finale with their world class tree on the flatbed to Rock Center and call it a very long, and just like that, day.

It’s going to end in a cliffhanger that guarantees a 4th season: “Who shot Seema?”

Not me, R274. I didn't shoot semen.

I'm actually rewatching the series for the first time in decades. Is there a thread about it?

No. Thank God

Hopefully that is the last we’ll see of ‘We need to talk about Wyatt’ for a while.

"The third season of And Just Like That is off to a decent start, holding 90% of where S2 was performing two years ago ... the fact that it is the top show among recent originals - essentially on par with the buzzier The Pitt - is impressive."

“And just like that, we have twice the audience of Emmy-darling Hacks”.

Just because you hate a TV show that you think lacks quality, doesn’t mean it’s going to get cancelled.

One can hope can’t one?

Keep hope alive!

R272 Big deal, mine’s over 10” and now I’m gone, too.

What the fuck did I just watch?

It is mind blowing that this show gets so many asses in chairs to watch. I admit it, I watch but really can't say why at this point in time. Charlotte still acting like a pre-teen with her childlike expressions but turned gansta to get Adderall. Only in TVland could this happen so easily, and of course Anthony landing a monogamous relationship with a hot Italian with a porn star dick. Does Mario Cantone have enough pull to demand a storyline like this? He isn't Cynthia Nixon.

Where to start? None of the stories have anything to do with each other or are terribly interesting. Now we see why Wyatt is such a problem--he probably should be in residential treatment. There's no chemistry between Carrie and Aiden. Harry's father seemed like an excuse to run some old one liners. Seema is both sad and repellant. Miranda's gaffe seemed un-necessary--at least she has potential for some English Breakfast tea.

Next week looks awful except may if Seema hooks up with the hunky gardener.

We already know it was Wyatt r274

The show jumped the shark by everyone getting their fantasy.

Carrie got super rich and got Aiden

Miranda got to be a tv star and have tons of lesbian sex

Charlotte got to be a rich, super mom

Anthony got a hot, young Italian stud with a huge dick.

Shows crash and burn when the stars no longer need anything

Samantha would never have guessed that it would be Anthony with the hottest man.

Yes, she would have.

Agreed, older days, especially go for beauty

Everybody I know watches the show, but not a single one likes it. Closest comparison I can remember is Smash.

I enjoy it especially this season. They’re slowly getting things right.

Way late since I'm just watching episode 4 now, but Aiden is just so cringe this episode.

Mechad Brooks bottoming for Christ Jackson (or vice versa) after blowing each other would spice things up.

We have our friend over to watch every week. It's hot here so we had bruschetta. We then spend an hour trashing it. Considering there is no monoculture anymore it's a good enough reason to get together and have a communal experience.

Aiden is the worst.

Wyatt reminds me of Jackie Earle Haley in his greasy hair days. Except Haley is a much better actor.

It would be interesting if this miserable season ended with a “Who Killed Miranda?” cliffhanger. Every citizen of NYC would be a suspect with a legitimate motive.

The funeral could be Brady dumping her Ziploc bag of ashes into a trash can on the street. The bag falls out onto the ground then a dog walks by and pisses on it. Carrie walks by in her latest pair of $1,000 shoes and Miranda’s pasty piss ash remains gets stuck on her shoe. She and Miranda are then together forever.

The audience would love it.

Or R299 she dumps them in Shoe’s litter box.

R299: That would be more interesting than anything this season.

Is Patti Lupone coming on to play Anthony's mom or the Italian hunk's mom?

⬆️ La Lupone is playing Giuseppe’s (Italian hunk’s) mother.

The whole thing with Miranda (and yes, I will use the word) is so fucking inauthentic. Yes, there are people late in life who come out, but generally they’ve been in the closet. Miranda is in NY, interacting with people who would accept her if she were gay. Yet, she showed not an iota of being attracted to women. Didn’t her boss set her up with a woman in the original series because she thought Miranda was a lesbian? And Miranda even tried kissing her before saying, “yup, not a lesbian.”

Cynthia Nixon said she wants them to bring back the lesbian that they tried to set her up with… they should

The problem definitely comes down to stakes. All they needed to do was find a way to reset the women back a little bit so that life in New York City proved to be a bit of a struggle. That was always part of the original series, as it’s a part of living in New York. It would be interesting to see it through the lens of the characters in their late 50s, not being able to use sex appeal as currency as much as they could in their 30s. And it would’ve been really easy to do this. They could’ve had Big die with a massive financial debt, thus leaving Carrie broke. Even Charlotte, they could’ve had her kids being kicked out of school or something and watching her try to grovel her way back into UES society. Or whatever it is. Instead, they carved out way too easy paths for all of the characters.

Why don't the producers just hire an ugly-ass actor who looks like Cynthia's real wife?

Agreed, R304. Miranda was decidedly not a lesbian. Not only that, but people loved Miranda and Steve together. Splitting them apart was another mistake.

R306, I totally get your point. My biggest issue with the show is it’s so unrealistic. Who dresses like them? Who lives like them? Very few women. But Sex and the City was always a fantasy anyway. It was never realist. And I think people watched because of that. Putting them in positions of real hardship would be realist, but also a bummer. I don’t believe people would watch it.

They could still have a fun, witty show by toning down the extravagances for one, but that would take very talented writers.

[quote]It is mind blowing that this show gets so many asses in chairs to watch. I admit it, I watch but really can't say why at this point in time.

Is it really though? There's so little else to watch that appeals to the people this show would appeal to. I'm not defending it, but it's sort or... well, how much else is there? Some, but not a lot.

[quote]Skipper pioneered the Geico Cavemen commercial. Is there a petition I can sign to bring him back in a cameo? Like Miranda’s Uber driver?

I always wanted to do an episode like A Christmas Carol, where ghosts force the women to confront the men of their pasts (at this point, played by Miss Cattrell.)

Except instead of being redeemed, they all go straight to hell, burdened and cursed by an awareness of what cunts they've been for fifty years.

R307 no doubt Bonadouchebag’s available.

“ Except instead of being redeemed, they all go straight to hell,”

And, of course, I tried to fuck Charlotte. And, of course, no erection…

I forgot that fug Lupone is going to be in this season. Why does she keep getting cast in shit when she so hard to look at?

They should have had Miranda SLOWLY discover she was a lesbian. She could have said she truly loved Steve and that’s what kept her from exploring it until now.

SJP had some microdermabrasion or Botox because she has been looking better in the last few episodes. Kristin Davis needs to Botox her forehead. Every time she raises her eyebrows then lowers them these thick lines stay. Her lips finally settled then she stopped doing the Botox.

I can’t wait to hear Patti‘s accent

Good comment, R304. Nixon just wanted that storyline SO bad as to reflect her own life - even if it didn't match Miranda to a large degree.

I agree R306. And it wouldn't even have to be massive stakes - like Big dying with massive debts. It could simply be Big dying and Carrie ended up getting much less than expected -- maybe a small sum - but not enough for her not have to worry about money at all and being able to buy that huge new place, and not enough so that she can work "for fun." Instead, like she really needs to work to maintain some of the lifestyle she enjoyed. And, as you point out, there's a ton of options for "stakes" with Charlotte.

Seema’s rivalry with Serhant has some potential for fun.

SJP just posted on Seagram a video of her trying to put a bed frame together because you just KNOW her and Matthew wore out the old one with all of the hot sex!! 🙄

R306 nailed why it isn't working.

Not one of the main three characters have anything to lose, thus nothing to fight for. They just prance around NYC.

But like everybody else in this thread, I still watch. Like clockwork.

[quote]Why don't the producers just hire an ugly-ass actor who looks like Cynthia's real wife?

Wayne Knight is still alive and looks just like Cynthia's wife

For some odd reason, I had this dream last night that I was in And Just Like That. I'm a man, and in the series I'm myself but somehow connected with the women. But in my dream, it's my real life, not a series.

The weirdest thing is, although I've watched a few episodes of Sex and the City, I don't watch this series. I don't know why it was in my subconscious.

Anyway, I had to check out this thread. Weird, huh?

The real Gilded Age history of a railroad to Los Angeles. Including why pre-Civil War politics dictated the first intercontinental railroad would be built much further north, and ending in Oakland.

Sorry, wrong number.

“Wayne Knight is still alive and looks just like Cynthia's wife”

His tits are bigger

Cynthia Nixon telling us what we already know.

Link above didn't work for some reason.

R326: The article has almost nothing to do with the title. SJP is not dating a rebound guy, Kristin Davis never married--let alone married well, although she did adopt. I know nothing about the LTW or Seema actresses but hopefully they aren't as annoying in real life as their characters on the show.

Is that how dresses waking sriu d Brooklyn in “real life?”

R328=covfefe

Surely someone wittier than I can comment on Cynthia’s hideous rag at r326.

Cynthia’s hair was looking better for a while in a sweet bob. Now it’s back to finger stuck in the socket look!

R330

r328 beat you to the punch.

I'm the one rewatching SatC from the beginning and there are signs that Cynthia is gay.

But there's no signs Miranda is gay.

I would like to see Miranda with a really butch, Ralph Kramdenesque girlfriend,

[quote] I would like to see Miranda with a really butch, Ralph Kramdenesque girlfriend,

That's why they hired Rosie O'Donnell.

Miranda and Cynthia were far and away my favorites during the original series run. Now I find both completely insufferable.

I liked original series Miranda. Charlotte was always vapid, social climbing, husband hunting freak stuck in the 1950s. I'm sure she went to college sure she'd get her MRS degree. She even dresses like June Cleaver around her house.

In the earlier seasons Miranda often wore suits and sometimes ties and, with her short hair, looked very mannish. But it was always made clear that Miranda loved cock and, sometimes, tucaslingus.

I need to see the r326 dress in full

Is it paper mache?

[quote]I need to see the [R326] dress in full

Cynthia of the People! Democratic socialism, NOW!

She's like a crow with ruffled feathers.

When she ran for Governor, I think a lot of us mistakenly believed she possessed Miranda’s intelligence.

As she got deeper into the campaign, it became clear she knew almost nothing about many of the major issues affecting this state. It was completely embarrassing. Her hubris was off the charts.

And I hated Cuomo so I wanted to like her.

And just like that, here comes Cynthia Redux: Zohran.

As she aggressively campaigns for Zohran, Cynthia conveniently overlooks that she was the number De Blasio supporter. She was hosting campaign parties for him when almost no one knew his name. He was the biggest mistake in New York could’ve made. Until Zohran, that is.

Interesting Reddit thread on someone who supposedly worked with Kim, Cynthia and Kristin.

Sure, Redditjan

R348. I'm not buying the Kim stuff because I don't think she would be that unprofessional. But the Kristen and Cynthia stuff makes sense because that's exactly how they come across in interviews.

[quote] Cynthia Nixon Says ‘And Just Like That’ Writers Add ‘Elements’ of Stars’ Real Lives to Series

Sounds like an excuse for lazy actresses who don’t feel like acting.

Is this piece of shit a biography? How embarrassing to even acknowledge it. Do your job, you ugly bitch.

Rosie’s character was too soft and neurotic.

I mean a real tough cookie-one that can tell Miranda to “SHADDUP YOU CRAZY BITCH” when she starts going on one of her nonsense tangents.

I call those her Forrest Gump scenes

I simply do not understand the Miranda/Cynthia Nixon hate on this thread. Is it politically motivated and promoted by conservative bots?

R345: In no universe did Cynthia Nixon think she could be governor of NY State. It was high grade political theater because no Democratic or Independent candidate at the time had the balls to run against him, since at that time he controlled (with his bullying ways) the entire political machine of the state, both Democrat and Republican.

Since no serious politician would challenge him, Nixon was the only one out there articulating the MANY reasons corrupt, authoritarian Andrew Cuomo didn’t deserve another term as Governor. He had threatened every other politician in the state (of both parties) with ruin if they dared go against him. Which his why everyone gleefully turned on him once scandal finally caught up to him — he was and is widely hated in the state.

So lighten ip on Cynthia, who provided a service no one else had the guts to provide..

Then you agree that in her political life, she’s the worst.. We concur, wholeheartedly. She was a not very useful idiot as a candidate.

From Jason Lewis on the SJP/KC feud:

“In an appearance on local Los Angeles news station KTLA 5 on Wednesday, Lewis was asked to weigh in about the war of words. At first, Lewis was diplomatic, saying, “If you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all." But when pressed, he added, “Listen, I would have to say that Sarah was always just so lovely and such a consummate professional, and I think that people should remember their graciousness and the things that have been given to them, and I’m going to stop there because I’ve got nothing good to say.”

Damn. He had nothing good to say about Kim.

[quote] I simply do not understand the Miranda/Cynthia Nixon hate on this thread.

Oh, that’s easy.

She’s a phony, sanctimonious, odious, ugly, narcissistic bitch whose performative political theater and pathetic publicity stunts are about boosting her thirsty ego rather than any commitment to a cause.

From her bullshit hunger strikes - she could use a few more, btw - to publicly dragging her own innocent kid into her ego-driven crap, she’s proven herself to be an repulsive cunt who epitomizes the laughingstock liberalism that has stereotyped democrats and hurt them in a local and national level.

She’s such a lazy actress that she demanded her character on the worst show on television - a show which took a toxic dump on the legacy of its predecessor - be written as essentially a fantasy clone of herself. So she can have on screen sex and make out sessions with some of the ugliest “women” in show business.

She’s nasty, uncouth, repellent, unlikable, contemptible and a twat-faced piece of hot garbage.

That should clear it up for you.

Im not OP, r357, but what did she do to her kid? Didn’t hear anything about that.

R358 Dragging him into her cheap, desperate parlor tricks for attention.

I’m sure this was 100 percent his idea and he wasn’t at all trying to please his media-thirsty “birthing person.”

What a vile, manipulative slag.

Don’t give a crap about her politics.

She took a great character and turned her into a combination of her own personal life and the mousy role she has on GILDED AGE.

Miranda as a lesbian? Fine.

Miranda as a retiring, hesitant, almost-shy type? Fuck off.

She really needs to do something about her three-pack-of-Marlboros-a-day upper lip area. That’s definitely not from eating all that ugly pussy.

I don’t care about Evan Handler’s looks; what I can’t stand is his acting style—how he looks down or to the side with a vacant stare while delivering his lines. Very rarely does he make eye contact with the other actors. Actually, his looks do bother me because he looks like Harpo Marx.

I did not like the direction one of Aiden’s sons was given to be extra polite and extra friendly towards Carrie. It was to make Wyatt seem even worse and was so over the top it was laughable.

I called her “maam” because it sounded so much like “mom”

R359, her son is 28 years old. Old enough to decide for himself.

[quote] [R359], her son is 28 years old. Old enough to decide for himself

Right. Gen Z is notoriously self sufficient.

🙄

So which is it, r366? Is he easily manipulated because he’s Gen Z or because he’s Cynthia Nixon’s son?

Sorry, but I still say he’s old enough to decide what he wants to do for himself.

[quote] So which is it, [R366]? Is he easily manipulated because he’s Gen Z or because he’s Cynthia Nixon’s son?

One can be both, R367. How basic, pedestrian and uneducated to think in such binary terms. Like a simpleton or a monkey.

[quote] Sorry, but I still say he’s old enough to decide what he wants to do for himself.

Let’s be honest, no one gives a shit what you say.

Cheers! 🥂

Contrary to what the show thinks, Carrie is not cute, pretty or beautiful. She is ugly as sin and hard to look at. The character has not evolved at all and she still acts 30 while pushing 60.

And just like that, Cynthia will land at City Hall the day after HBO cancels this crap.

Wasn’t Miranda’s introduction to lesbianism being finger banged by Che in Carrie’s kitchen? The whole thing was really unpleasant

Apparently you do, r368. You took the time to respond to both of my points.

Re R342 - she's like a crow that's just come out of a car wash.

They need to find a role for Dan Levy (Schitts' Creek) maybe as Seema's gayby.

R374 And just like that...epic slap fights between Dan and Mario in every episode.

Aiden is a fucking snooze. If she was going to get back with any of her exes, it should've been Berger.

Berger’s a fucking coma.

The piss play politician played by John Slattery. He would be a GREAT ex to have her with. I know he wasn't a major relationship, but I think it would be a better choice than Berger, Petrovsky, Aiden - at least assuming she's paired with someone from the past.

Aiden was always a dud. I remember some of the unhinged fans loved him

[quote] Contrary to what the show thinks, Carrie is not cute, pretty or beautiful.

Sez YOU!!!

Carrie's empty mansion is so annoying. When Miranda had those obnoxious Brits over, they all had to stand in the miniscule kitchen, except for Joy who landed the one chair.

Between dealing with his psychotic son and repairing his living room windows, I sure hope Aiden didn't find the time to buy that ugly table for Carrie on 1stdibs. If he did and surprises her with it, she'll definitely continue with this five year break.

Aren't we supposed to be boycotting Target? It's kind of funny that this series, of all series, is promoting it.

I can't wait to see what bullshit we're in store for tonight!!

Can’t Carrie have a design team come in and install basic furniture? Then she can take her time layering and fine-tuning the decor. But I don’t understand having no furniture.

It’s a ridiculous conceit

Worse, it’s a plot point! Oy gevalt.

Flighty and disorganized can read as “cute” it endearing when you’re young and broke.

There’s no excuse for it when you’re wealthy and pushing 60,

Carrie STILL can’t figure out how to manage housing basics?

Carrie could rent some basic furniture if she's going to slack on shopping and decorating.

Maybe an episode where the girls all get high and try to put IKEA furniture together?

A big storyline about a kitchen/dining table? MPK is cray cray to think that is something worth the time.

The extended family drama showcased in last week's episode wasn't a bad idea but it was poorly written and poorly acted. So they get an A for effort and D for execution.

How hard is it for a teen actor to play a mope? He failed.

I like Boyfriend Bob's resignation. "Yeah, no, I'm going to stay over here and play on my phone during 'family' time." He clearly hates Aiden. Lol.

Boyfriend Bob was my favorite in all his scenes. His attitude was the only authentic part of that episode. Aiden is such a hick. He's every male romantic lead in every Hallmark or Lifetime movie that has a big city gal finds love, community, and the true meaning of home story arc. Saccharine and fake.

Should have specified that it's a big city gal goes to a small town for reasons and finds love, etc. The small town part is an essential component because as everyone knows, small towns are far superior to cities especially for love, community, and the true meaning of home. *eyeroll*

He's been banging the ultimate 10 for decades (Bo Derek). He must be doing something right.

The season should end with a Moldavia cliffhanger.

Aiden’s psycho son shows up to Anthony’s bakery while they’re all celebrating….something and starts firing away.

Yeah R395, at Harry’s funeral. That way they can just dump the bodies of Charlotte and the kids in his grave.

Sigourney Weaver did it first in "Alien", R393.

Lisa Todd whatever her last name bitch slaps Michelle Obama for showing up to her black unsung female documentary film premier at the Apollo.

Bob is the best character of this whole series. I liked Sanford, though.

[quote] I liked Sanford, though.

That’s your problem, fool.

Wow. A good old school opening.

Same bank account manager?

It’s like an entirely different series tonight

I didn't think the episode could get any worse...and then we got the Chalamet reference.

What a bitch----can't get out of heels or get rugs and then rubs it in. Well, she did mention a rug later. She forgets about all the rooms?

They have no idea what to do with the relationship with Aidan. I must have missed something about Carrie writing a novel--she's never seemed literary.

Early stage prostate cancer needs more watching than treating. I wonder how long we'll be hearing about it.

Seema is so full of her self.

Mostly fontal with Miranda! It was obvious that the dogs would be a problem. Not much going on in the tit department. Normally, she's too priggish for Mexican and a coke on a brand new table.

Unfunny storylines, an Aidan arc that goes nowhere, recycled cancer storyline, desperately trying to make Seema the new Samantha, and ugly Miranda's tits. The joke's on us because MPK knows we'll keep hate watching.

This was, dare I say, a good episode. It felt like old Sex And The City, with a male guest star to mix things up and everything. I honestly have very few criticisms. Even liked Rock.

That said, hated Carrie. Who has to leak in high heels in their own home?! And what New Yorker doesn’t know that they you have to put down rugs when you have a downstairs neighbor?

Carrie turns out to be a real cunt in this episode. And if they're going to show Miranda in the nude, there needs to be a warning at the top of the show. Do real people actually do something as stupid and entitled as "glamping"? I could watch Jonathan Cake for an entire hour.

R407 - agreed. The Saint Miranda of the Order of Perpetual Lezzing was over. And Carrie was a self-absorbed bitch.

The universe works.

Not entirely sure why Carrie has to wear heels all the fucking time. Even at home? Shoes are the first thing normal people take off.

Still don't see how Charlotte is just asking with her daughter dating a polysexual, polyamorous guy. Most normal mothers would be appalled. Even super liberal ones.

R405 never watched SATC yet is all over this thread.

They know what they’re doing with Aidan. He’s in a different fucking state. Are you watching this one ?

Carrie was always very selfish. Always. She was truer to herself this episode than ever

Charlotte got a big ole butt … (oh yeah!)

I really think--aside from the scenes with the kids--that this felt aaaaaaalmooooost--not completely but almost--like the original series. There were several knowing throwbacks too: the "Jinx, you owe me a (Mexican) Coke" and Linda, the loan approved who rejected Carrie's ank loan when she needed to buy her apartment. LOVED the man downstairs; at last, some fresh air to blow away the musty Aiden scent. Miranda was a riot and Charlotte would have been touching if only they. . would. . .get rid. . .of the fucking kids.

So Carrie is supposed to be 50? That’s the biggest joke of the season. I’m surprised they didn’t make her 40.

R408 FWIF I do, and have done, glamping. It can be fun.

I’m with you r414, I think this is the first episode I enjoyed. The others have been ok, some good, some not so good, but this one definitely felt like the old show. It also was helped by a very well written script. And It’s also the first episode where fast forwarding was at a minimum (yup those pesky kids). We’ll see if they can maintain the quality.

Cynthia Nixon looks like she smells of mothballs, gin and sweaty pantyhose.

Carrie turned 40 in the first movie. She is 31 or 32 during season 1 of the OG series. She should be going on 60 now. They lowered her age

After reading this thread I know I don’t need to see this episode.

The timeline was changed for all the characters. Brady is still a teenager despite Miranda having him in 2002.

Lily should be around 20/21 now but she’s still in high school. And we meet Rose in the second movie and she’s only like 12 now.

Ummm Carrie's gigantic mansion would not have a downstairs neighbor. Ridiculous storyline.

New York Times episode 5 recap

I heard Carrie’s “fifty” comment as her saying she’s been eating yogurt and bananas since she turned fifty, not that she’s currently fifty. But I could be wrong.

Also, that glamping setup on Governor’s Island is indeed real. I’ve personally never understood the appeal of schlepping over there (it’s only accessible by ferry) to ostensibly relax.

R424 That's the way I immediately took it as well.

Harry having prostate cancer was pretty uneventful

I guess next episodes Charlotte will spill the beans and there will be multiple storylines/discussions with everyone

I'm the one who started rewatching the series and it really drives home the point that this latest incarnation is lacking. They all seem to have lost 30 IQ points and gained an anxiety disorder. It's like the new writers never watched the original.

Seema is one of the top real estate brokers in NYC and needs to go to a bank and apply for a small business loan, only to get rejected? The top brokers are millionaires and live in the world of private banking. They make millions a year in commissions. Cynthia Nixon having a nude scene thrown in, what? why? oh my.

HBO really should be sued with an indecency charge for the nude scene with Cynthia Nixon.

There really is no excuse to have that on television.

None.

Of course Carrie has a hunky tenant right below her and she texts Samantha for the 411 on him. So convenient after visiting Aiden and leaving a key in his hand to use anytime. Will Aiden walk in on Carrie getting her ass plowed by this Brit?

[QUOTE] Will Aiden walk in on Carrie getting her ass plowed by this Brit?

That or Carrie walking on his bare chest in heels.

R424 and R425, so why does she say “Since I’M FIFTY” then? She does not say “since I turned 50.” I would prefer that Carrie does not end up with the writer neighbor.

“They all seem to have lost 30 IQ points and gained an anxiety disorder.”

That’s every viewer of seasons 1 and 2 of AJLT.

Could be wrong, R432. Just how I heard it. Miranda says something like “since when?” And Carrie says, “since I’m fifty.” Agree it’s weird syntax, but could be interpreted as “since that point in time” rather than “since this is what I currently am.” Either way, SJP is sixty.

[quote]Carrie says, “since I’m fifty.”

She looks terrible for her age.

Is Rose Goldenblatt now called Rock Goldenblatt? Hmmm. Will Rock Goldenblatt will be for or against Momdani? Charlotte will be plotzing over this one.

In a futile attempt for acceptance, Rock will develop phantom prostate cancer symptoms.

R428 that’s the point. She spends all her money excessively and now has nothing to show for it.

I'm guessing they are setting up to throw Seema and the gardener up together.

R439 that doesn’t make an ounce of sense.

It was apparent that the gardener an d Seema would be a couple the minute they locked eyes in the Carrie's Cat Runs Out the Door episode. Seriously, it was the most high stakes thing that happened that episode. Maybe this season

They aren’t a couple though

No commemts about Jonathan Cake, who traditionally cleans up beautifully? He’s playing the donnish, scruffy, peevish downstairs neighbor. All my most sexual memories of him involve him clean-shaven and well barbered wearing a well cut suit. That’s often what he has played in the past, often on Brit TV series. A silken killer in the sack, very butch in a well bred way but able to get down and dirty. I’ve seen him on the Broadway stage too, as Jason to Diana Rigg’s “Medea,” and he’s in the “Pale Horse” episode of the Miss Marple TV series.

In real life he’s married to Julianne Nicholson, Emmy winner for “Mare of Eastown,” most recently seen as the coked-out dancing “mom” on “Hacks.”

Love the body on the guy playing Carrie’s landscape guy. Muscular, but with enough body fat to soften the contours, fucktastic, beefy ass. Hope we get to see it nude.

This ain’t porn, dear.

Why does a zillion dollar townhome (it looks like a townhouse, not apartments) have a tenant under carrie’s place?

Every townhouse has a lower, or garden level, lspace. It’s just a question of whether it’s a single family building or one split up. A large number of Manhattan townhouses were split up at one point and later recombined, etc.

The existence of the space isn’t unusual—it’s that in the context of this stupid show it makes no sense that it suddenly turned into a plot point.

One thing that made no sense to me was Carrie not wanting to refer Miranda to Seems for real estate. For one, Miranda and Seema have eaten together countless times in the series. We are to assume they have developed their own friendship in three years. But also, every realtor I know gets countless referrals from friends. It’s not a particularly fraught relationship. Why would Carrie give a shit?

I assume it's cause Carrie has to be an annoying twat in every conceivable way at all times r447. Really, I get that they wanted to do a thing where good friends get on each other's nerves if they live together, but it just seems like every goddamn minute of living with Carrie would be a nightmare. Don't touch anything in the fridge or eat or drink anything ever, cause it will probably turn into a big stupid thing. And don't ever use the table, cause Carrie might have a desperate need to show it to somebody who doesn't give a damn about it, cause it's just a stupid table.

Instead of Miranda staying with Carrie for a few days, why not Anthony and his well-hung Italian boyfriend visit for an overnight and re-create the same scene where the boyfriend is wandering nude in the hallway after sex and still semi hard. This would make up for the Miranda nudity we all cannot unsee.

The show clearly doesn't know its audience but should by now.

“ Don't touch anything in the fridge or eat or drink anything ever”

Miranda was a fatto. She ate everything and drank everything in the house. I’m surprised she didn’t drain the toilet to drink Carrie’s urine.

R449 because that’s stupid. Carrie was never close with Anthony. They’re “friends” now but Stanford was her friend. Not Anthony.

R447 Seema is there as Carrie’s friend. She doesn’t speak to or hang out with Charlotte or Miranda independently. Carrie is her friend. She’s more acquaintances with the other two the way Lisa is Charlotte’s friend, and just an acquaintance of the other two. Which is actually realistic. If you’re in a tight friend group you still usually have your own friend/s outside of that group who may come into contact with the friend group at times because of you but not actually part of the group. They’re your friend separately.

Seema is not the fourth friend. She’s Carrie’s friend who gets invited at times. Same with Lisa and Charlotte.

Yes, r452, but there's still zero reason to decide Miranda can't possibly use her for, you know, her job. Just Carrie being a twat, for no particular reason.

Carrie has ALWAYS been an asshole. I don’t know why people on here are acting like this is new. She’s always been a self-centered asshole. Always. And like I saw someone say, women who are selfish and self-centered in their younger years almost always get worse with age, not better.

“ Seema is there as Carrie’s friend. She doesn’t speak to or hang out with Charlotte”

Neither do I.

R422: NYC has strong tenant laws, much like DC. In DC, the tenant retains rights to rent after a sale. I assume NYC is similar and Seema alludes to this.

Ha. Nice call back to the woman who denied Carrie a mortgage during SATC. She's still in banking.

Also, correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Carrie accost Charlotte into giving her the down payment for her apartment? Pretty sure that was a big mixing of friendship and real estate.

R457 most people in banking are still in banking years later. It’s a career.

R456. For that place at that price, you simply pay them to leave.

Where was he when they dug up the garden. Where was he with the rats. None of this passes the basic logic test.

[quote]Where was he when they dug up the garden. Where was he with the rats. None of this passes the basic logic test.

He was still in London. He just came back to NY.

Pay attention or I’ll bring back Che Diaz.

She wouldn’t have been able to cut up the garden —and just like that, it still makes no sense

Carrie didn't want to mix friends and business at first, but when she had issues with Miranda staying with her all of her high and mighty ethics went out the window and she asked Seema to help her find something real fast.

“Because”, R448, not “cause” - especially when you misuse it four times in one paragraph.

R443 Julianne Nicholson (his wife) is also a big player in “Paradise”.

You'd do well in the Carrie Bradshaw household r464. You have that, um, energy.

The text with Samantha bothered me for a few reasons.

1) she had to search for her. That says to me they don’t communicate often as her text thread didn’t appear.

2) Samantha’s words were brief and curt.

3) She’s 70 now and to write what they had her write as not realistic or sophisticated.

4) Miranda’s response to the exchange with Samantha was also shitty. She was her “friend” for years.

Wow, I hated Carrie in this episode. She lets her friend of years stay there, but got all upset when she ate a banana, yogurt and a Coke. Why not offer your guest some food, bitch?

Don’t get me started on living in heels 24/7.

I hope she gets a severe case of plantar fasciitis and becomes bedridden without use of her phone.

I have heard and read that heels do pretty major damage to your feet after decades and cause a lot of pain. Of course, the show completely ignores that research.

I’ve always defended Carrie Bradshaw and Sarah Jessica Parker. But this episode she came across as Peak Cunt. She’s super rich and she’s bitching about walking in high heels, a yogurt, and a banana. I’m just stunned. And then she wouldn’t even suggest to her friend to help Miranda. I’m shocked that this episode even aired because it made Carrie Bradshaw,for the first time in my eyes, look really, really really bad.

R467 Since they appear to be saying they’re younger than they are, Samantha is also probably 7 to 8 years younger.

I didn't even clue in at first about Carrie's empty fridge. Bitch, go to the store FFS. You've got company.

Oh and most women her age are done with heels all the time. Buy some damn lower heeled shoes especially after hip surgery.

Wow R470, you must have completely skipped the original series. Carrie has always been awful.

R473 Not to this extent in one episode.

I don't care about Carrie's narcissism. I mean, she is. Sure, she's benign. But she is. End of story.

I am thrilled we get Jonathan Lake to look at for the rest of the season (I hope). He's fucking hot.

How about fat freeloader Miranda stock up the refrigerator, since she’s living there for free.

Also, we just saw her naked and she can afford to skip a meal or two, including full-sugar Coke.

R473: She was never quite this bad in SATC, although she was getting there during the last season.

I liked the big Carrie/Miranda split on the horizon. It’s more than just yoghurt and Mexican coke. Deep inside, they really dislike each other. I have seen many long lasting friendships falling apart as people get older, usually due to economic disparity. All the ingredients are there.

It's official- I am now hate watching this show.

What sort of fucking asshole prances around the house in four inch heels all the time? Maybe the long blonde hair looked good on you at 25, it looks like crap in your 50s.

You live in NYC, do a Fresh Direct order or call one of the endless grocery stores who will gladly deliver to you door.

So, Seema wears ridiculously expensive clothing while being driven around the city by her personal chauffeur. She claims to be a very successful realtor, yet she doesn't have enough $$ banked to make a down payment on some office space? She says her partner screwed her over but she never would have hand the funds to buy him out.

They need to stop dressing Charlotte like June Cleaver.

The wealthy black family is becoming a a caricature. “This croque monsieur is good but not as good as the one in the Pierre.” What are they trying to project?

This is “Lawrence of my Labia” level bad writing.

" this episode she came across as Peak Cunt"

Peak Cunt was when she berated Charlotte for not offering to give her money.

Or maybe Peak Cunt was when she invited the guy she cheated with to the cabin of the guy she cheated on.

Or maybe Peak Cunt was chasing Natasha down to be forced to listen to a "we're all good" apology for breaking up Natasha's marriage.

Or maybe Peak Cunt was dragging Samantha across the country on a train and then kicking Samantha out of her hotel room so Carrie and Big could not have sex.

I always thought Big’s sweet-sinister secretary had embezzled tens of million, which would drive Carrie into ruin. That would have been a good storyline!

I'm still shaking my head over Miranda nude, did it really need to be full on nudity for the story to be told? Would Miranda in a t-shirt and panties still not be shocking enough? So weird that Miranda felt she could wonder outside her bedroom naked and not put on something before stepping outside the bedroom. It was her first night staying there and she hasn't had a sleep over with Carrie in decades.

Who does that? Brady must be really messed up.

That Carrie was so awful is why this episode felt more like the original series. Carrie has always been self-centered, quick to overreact at minor slights, one-sided, and more.

Peak cunt Carrie was manipulating Aiden into getting back together then treating him like shit and not even wearing his engagement ring. And, let's not forget the infamous YOU HAVE TO FORGIVE ME!

The Carrie has always been awful troll complains that others are "all over theis thread".

It is safe to say that Anthony is a NYC gay cliche: loud, pushy, obnoxious and opinionated.

R487-You mean he's just like MPK?

Miranda is Harvard grad and was a partner at a respected law firm. She's ok with her son running a hot dog stand in Coney Island? In real life, this would be a major family conflict for Miranda. However she acts as if she doesn't have a son.

r153 Not knowing what county Manhattan is in-- doesn't make you a yahoo. New Yorkers are self absorbed.

R489 Brady’s face alone justifies her acting like she has no son.

Miranda’s nudity alone justifies Brady acting like he has no mother.

I live in NYC, but I know what county Chicago is in. Same for Houston… Miami, and more. It’s not hard.

Are A listers pushing their way in to do cameos? This show has jumped the shark so many times it is amazing it is still going strong. Will there be a Season 4?

[quote]Will there be a Season 4?

Ab-so-fucking-lutely

I'm on Carrie's side with the food; not with the heels.

R494, we are definitely in a bubble on DL (not that I mind, it’s mostly why I’m here). Viewership continues to be high, if the women want to come back, the show will be back.

I did like this episode, as I posted upthread. It was witty and fairly interesting.

The latest Vulture/NY Mag recap-just one episode- had over 450 replies the last time I looked. It's not just DL - unless there's a huge overlap. And of course not all of the replies are by different people, but still. Reddit seems to be pretty robust too. Sure, there are a lot of limited response threads, but you know how reddit is - everyone wants to start a new thread about the smallest detail. But there's some core threads that have a lot of discussion. There's still an audience - the old audience of gays, women, and a small subset of straight men. The show may be bad to many, but hate watching is watching and it will definitely get renewed if the main actors want to do it again

Reddit is owned by the Condé Nast family.

Now you know.

LTW’s family are so posh they make the Obama look ghetto.

Conde Nast is not the owner. They are a shareholder (30%), without a controlling interest.

R432, jumping in to say that the “since I’m 50” phrasing didn’t strike me as strange. I’ve heard this kind of thing a lot in New York, especially among fellow Jews. It’s not standard grammar, but it’s part of the speech pattern in the circles I travel in.

For example, a middle-aged colleague of mine once said, “I’ve had a crush on Mikhail Baryshnikov since I’m a kid.” She obviously meant she liked him since she *was* a kid —she wasn’t claiming to currently be one! It’s a subtle Yiddish-influenced way of speaking where the present tense gets used instead of the past in these “since” constructions.

WE STAND ON LINE!

Sure, yes, Carrie has at times been a huge cunt. But there were so many times in one episode over different issues where she was peak cunt it made her unlikeable for the first time I can recall. Again, yes, Carrie is very flawed but she always had a very good side.

One thing I hated about her in the original series was how they’d all go out together at night then Carrie would fake a headache to go meet Big or just to go home because she was sad over Big. Otherwise, I like Carrie a lot. This episode she was a complete cunt over many things.

This season is FAAAAAAR better than S1 and S2.

Did I miss some dialogue or was Lisa in her kitchen with her family talking about glamping, then the next scene she's flying home from Atlanta? I missed any mention of Atlanta so thought she was flying from NYC to Governor's Island and was WTF?

Carrie, my neighbor hates me. Miranda, my Airbnb neighbor plays loud rock music all night. Carrie, BUT HOW IS THAT ABOUT ME?

Everyone above is correct, peak cunt.

Lisa Todd Wexler needs to admit her new editor crush is a former Diddy freak master who fucked Cassie in front of Puffy/Diddy/whatever and he is available to do the same thing with her and Mr. Wexler can watch in a chair.

Mr. Wexler can be the Baby Lotion Caddy

A banana and a yogurt. Good lord how did this get by a story editor. Make it something special at least. You can buy a banana for 29 cents on any street corner. What horrible writing. Why would she care if her best friend ate a banana. Was it the one she was gonna stick up her twat? There is no tension in the show. I will NOT miss an episode.

is somebody who lived with a roommate who constantly ate my last yogurt, I can totally empathize with this.

[quote]A banana and a yogurt. Good lord how did this get by a story editor. Make it something special at least.

They should have had Miranda eat the last of the turkey meatballs and used the last of the clean towels.

This wasn’t a bad episode. Surprisingly.

It was so stupid to have her upset over a yogurt and banana. She could have that delivered in 5 minutes.

Of course, of course, Miranda has to spill a Mexican coke on the brand-new lovers table gifted to Carrie and then wipe it up with the vintage scarf. Harvard law grads are so tacky, hmmm. God awful episode.

Do women actually wear high heels at home alone? I don’t think even Carrie did that until this episode.

Why couldn't the downstairs neighbor be sleepwalking nude in the garden, instead of Miranda flopping about. Don't the writers pitch ideas to each other?

R515 The downstairs neighbor, who said he slept all day, sure was up walking around during the day after saying he needed his sleep during the day.

R513 I thought Carrie spilled the coke, then tried to soak it up with Miranda’s important document, then Miranda ( I hope out of spite) did the same with Carrie’s precious scarf like she can’t get it dry cleaned to perfection.

Did Samantha fuck this guy? She said he is fun, but something tells me she no longer tells Carrie everything.

Did anybody else catch the entire convo with Samantha and Carrie? Some passive/aggressive shit was thrown in.

S: I called by you didn’t answer C: My ringer was off. Call now.

I don’t care about the plot line logic, but the downstairs neighbor is hot

“ Harvard law grads are so tacky, hmmm”

AGREED!

Carrie has always been dumb enough to not realize she had a tenant.

This was the first episode that I enjoyed Seema's character, especially during her interactions with the loan officer and later in Carrie's apartment and outside with the gardener (I guess those were about the only scenes she was in, other than the four of them together in the resturant).

Anybody with sense would have dropped Aidan immediately after seeing his weird family situation. Troubled son, present ex-wife, lives in Virginia--no thanks.

That dining room table is way too plain and ugly to be the focus of the whole season. I've seen better looking tables at Ikea.

All of the close ups on the female's legs walking in high heels, were they all SJP or a younger leg/foot model? I think the later, but damn girl if it was you, looking great!

^^^^ she has a great body.

^^She has a thin body

If I were staying at a friends house and they had no food I’d buy some at least for myself. It’s not like Miranda is broke

Even if they had food. I don’t help myself to food in other peoples fridges unless they explicitly offer it to me

“That dining room table is way too plain and ugly to be the focus of the whole season“. So is Carrie and they centered two series around her R523

Hi Kim at R529!

SJP's feet look like my grandfather's.

Miranda house sat a week earlier when Carrie was in the old antebellum state of Virginia. Miranda was told to make herself at home. Wasting dialogue over a banana and a yogurt seems petty in millionaire's row.

this is a good list!

It seems weird none of these people seem to buy groceries or order takeout even. Everybody has to eat something

Women are hate watching too. I don’t think there is anyone out there who genuinely thinks this is a great show

But think of the opportunities for drama, and self pity r523. Makes it all worth it.

This about sums it up.

Someone on reddit said they'd love for Carrie to accidentally be added to the group text where they all take shit about her and meet once a month for lunch to laugh about her in person. It really explains the only way they're able to tolerate her.

R538 And Just Like that, a plot line that would get me to come back to watching this otherwise awful dreck!

Is Rock trying to present as male? If so, why aren't they making the actor present as male, such as speaking in a lower register, and oh, maybe wearing a male haircut?

It feels like they are quietly rolling back the Rock non-binary thing and instead just making her a quirky girl playing with identities (thus the vegan joke in the last episode).

Rock is ugly, annoying and stinks up the screen. One of the worst child characters ever.

What R541 says. This is how many younger people view (and participate in) gender fluidity, identity, and sexuality. It's play and experimentation. (You guys remember those things, right? Play? Experimentation?) The stale rigidity of boring binaries and dualities have lost appeal and not merely to the younger ones. Anyone still playing and experimenting should just ignore gender truthers and their ilk and keep exploring and trying out new ideas and identities. It's certainly more fun and interesting than what has been deemed "acceptable" by the mainstream society.

I hope Corey Feldman guest stars

Rock is a future EGOT, Stop.

Rock’s not a they. Rock’s a tomboy.

You could mute Rock for every appearance this season and miss nothing.

To be fair you could cut every storyline on this show and not miss anything. Even Aiden and Carrie haven’t progressed since he was reintroduced.

This show had a weird chance to capture the zeitgeist of what women in their 50s/60s were like in New York in 2023-2025 and instead went the route they did.

They get high ratings and lots of buzz….but everyone agrees this show is dumb and is written dumb for a dumb audience.

HBO has nothing better to offer on Thursdays, sad. It is almost like BRAVO having nothing to offer except Real Housewives. Old playbooks make $, so keep doing it.

R548, well, you make a good point. Much of America is dumb.

Well, we all watch it

[quote]Real Housewives

R549 I saw the word Housewives and first read it as Hullabaloo and thought that reruns of that show would be a vast improvement.

Nobody went glamping on Hullabaloo.

R467 her and Samantha don’t text often bothers you? Who cares? Most people living in different cities yet alone continents don’t text often. Completely different time zones.

And Samantha was never “sophisticated” in the way you make it sound.

R472 most doesn’t mean all. Look at many celebs. They wear heals. SJP still wears heels.

R513 what does spilling a soda have to do with going to Harvard?

Jennifer Lewis has Mario Cantone’s old role for one happy episode.

Revenge is a dish best served cold with a side of naked Cathy

Carrie had NO leg to stand on if she were mad but did Aiden really think no sex for 5 years??

The call backs continue -First KFC and the the loan officer; now Carrie-Aiden sleeping with an ex, Harry wanting to watch baseball rather than talk to Charlotte. Also a bit of Bitsy.

Jennifer Lewis was good. I just don't care about LTW enough to need an arc about her dad dying.

Jennifer Lewis coming out to MAGIC TO DO was great.

Is it just me or are these episodes way too long? The original series was fun and quick and thirty minutes.

[quote]The call backs continue

And Aidan still uses Speed Stick and Rogaine.

If you need proof on what woke rubbish this show is, look no further than episode six. The LTW storyline was just the catalyst to get Charlotte to finally open up to somebody about Harry's cancer. Ultimately, all the diversity characters are really pawns.

R564 = Sara Ramirez

Was Carrie trying to do an updated Bo Peep? I swear she was wearing panniers under that white lace skirt.

For those unfamiliar, panniers were a type of skirt structure popular in the 18th century. The square, flat "hoop" popular at the time. Along, with the little flat hat perched on her head, it all screamed Marie Antoinette playing shepherdess.

It’s JENIFER Lewis!

God that was audience cruelty that Aiden and Carrie didn't break up. So close.

I wanted to yell at Carrie and say get rid of this loser!

R564 the one thing that could have saved this episode would be to have had Jackie Harris calling to everyone the old man was dead.

How disgusting that they are making cancer something to be ashamed of. Just when this couldn’t get any worse.

New York Times recap.

The Lisa's father is dead plot reminds me of Karen's line in Will & Grace, and I think I paraphrase. I barely care about Will and now you're telling me about his BROTHER?

I know it's not possible for a show this poorly written to jump the shark, but the whole Aiden cheats and Carrie's reaction is, "yeah, I can see that" comes pretty close.

Yeah I can see how that would happen. But NOBODY ELSE can.

Whatever once worked with Aidan, and I really think it did work back then, is not working now. Maybe that’s the point? He was sort of her unrequited love. Sometimes that’s for a reason

Carrie was more like Aidan's unrequited love. She was never all in with him

The best Carrie has looked in a long time was her sitting at the table with Duncan. She had lighter eye makeup on and lift to her hair and was lit well. Then she ruins it by doing a ridiculous, slicked back pigtail.

And if she wanted little rainbows, they could have bought or had made a stain glass section that would have a similar effect. Maybe they could’ve even found a vintage French one.

Nicole Ari Parker’s acting was pretty bad in this episode.

But it’s always a pleasure to see Jenifer Lewis!

For fun you should check the IMDb credits for this show and marvel at the number of VFX artists involved with performing magic to make the stars look better.

I count eight.

Not like they are creating dinosaurs. I mean, they are de-aging dinosaurs.

BItsy's apropos of nothing appearances shows how desperate they are to come up with story arcs. They recycle a random character from the past and she's uninteresting without her obviously gay husband. In other words, she was a bit of filler in the past and makes even less sense now. They'd probably bring back the party girl who fell out a window if she hadn't died.

If there’s a funeral, Bitsy is somewhere nearby.

I can't believe this thing got 3 seasons. SJP looks like the crypt keeper now.

Also while I’m happy for Mario Cantone to have steady work, his appearances are are also grating.

He was funny in his opening scene in 2000 as Charlotte’s wedding planner, but he rightfully toned down the more episodes he got.

For some reason, he decided to go back to his early energy on AJLT and it’s too much.

Also, Carrie is a terrible friend and always has been.

Also, please send Aiden to the island where they keep Che Diaz and Naya.

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Seema letting her driver go and telling him she doesn't have enough money right now but will soon. Twenty years as a top NYC realtor would make her a millionaire, many times over. Her poorness seems quite out of sync with her being one of the best brokers in Manhattan. Next, she will be schtuping Carrie's landscaper. The show is off the rails.

Manhattan doesn’t have realtors lol. They’re all brokers. Keep it klassy.

Carrie and Aidan won’t last. He’ll go back to his wife.

Someone in a subreddit mentioned that LTW's dad's already dead and they showed the scene in S1 Ep2 where Charlotte tells her about Big dying and LTW says something about being a mess forever when HER dad died.

Was dad a vampire? A zombie?

If Mario is overdoing it, blame the director.

That’s clearly what the director wants to they’d be telling him to make it smaller.

He’s really talented. He used to join Gilbert Gottfried each year for his holiday podcast. He would sing the 12 Days of Christmas in different voices for each day, including post-stroke Bette Davis, Lucille Ball after the first 100,000 packs of ciggies and Liza. It was a marvel and a scream.

Shear genius!

Shear? He’s cutting hair now?

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