How do you deal with people viewing celebrities as straight and possible PR relationships as real?

And yet, I continue to scroll.

This issue has the very greatest impact on my life, too devastating to put into words

Their lives and careers, their call.

It's something I've been working on with my therapist for years, but still I struggle sometimes.

[quote]The continuing DiCaprio-dates-a-25-year-old stories and how this is treated as real in a lot of places.

Frankly, I don't understand why DLers think DiCaprio is gay.

If anything, DL thinks every man is gay, especially if they are/were attractive.

I pray on it.

I've never gotten gay vibes from DiCaprio either. I feel like that's just wishful thinking from a whole generation of gay guys who creamed their pants when they saw him in Titanic.

I don't. I have other things to do.

Not important things, mind you, but things all the same.

When the media covers DiCaprio's latest girl toy, I smile and think about YOUNG DiCaprio and YOUNG Lukas Haas having exciting, loving, rutting sex with each other. I don't need them to be a life long couple but is nice to think they are. Particularly for Lukas because he seems devoted DiCaprio and he hasn't made a show of girlfriends in recent years.

This line of thinking is a direct reflection of social media today.

Of course, there have always been gay celebrities whose straight relationships gossip magazines have pushed.

But, the idea that one has to "deal" with it somehow or that it affects an unrelated person in any way is a notion of the modern era of anxiety-driven reactions and that everything is about you.

Sweetie, unless you're DL fav Kevin Lanflisi and distraught over your partner, DL fav Aaron Rodgers, latest PR girlfriend, it doesn't impact you at all.

Of course what celebrities do doesn't necessarily have to impact you.

But people treating celebrities as straight might impact you. Would you correct them if you are sure they're wrong, or say nothing, shrug it off? Deal with the backlash?

[quote]But people treating celebrities as straight might impact you

How?

[quote] has it any impact on you?

Of course not.

I just say "Gran can I see your People when you're done?"

The heteronormative audience demands heteronormalnance and media shill heteronormative fantasy because it makes them and the faux heteronormative celebrity $$. Capitalism 101 . Faries in Fairytales.

R5 perhaps a thread more your spead gran....

[quote]When the media covers DiCaprio's latest girl toy, I smile and think about YOUNG DiCaprio and YOUNG Lukas Haas having exciting, loving, rutting sex with each other. I don't need them to be a life long couple but is nice to think they are. Particularly for Lukas because he seems devoted DiCaprio and he hasn't made a show of girlfriends in recent years.

Didn't DiCaprio and Tobey Maguire share a bed as well at some point? I think it was Maguire's mom who "outed" them

Heteronormativity doesn't impact you?

I get the feeling there are a lot of PR shills in here lol

That may be though your rationalization for why your thread isn't taking off and that the few replies you did get aren't trending as you'd planned.

Does that impact you and how do you deal with it, other than posting in the thread yet again?

[quote]Heteronormativity doesn't impact you?

Contrary to what many people think, heteronormativity is, in fact, the norm for the vast majority of people (it's baked into the word). That the default is that people are straight should neither be surprising nor rage inducing - as long as not conforming to that normative behavior is also a non-event.

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Even my grandma in her Belgian nursing home knows that Bradley Cooper, Will Smith, Henry Cavill, and Jake Gyllenhaal are closet cases.

[quote]heteronormalnance

Heteronormalnancy would be a good new word for obvious bearding set-ups. A bit cumbersome, but the contrivance would be apt.

"He's gay, right?'

"Yeah, but a Heteronormal Nancy."

It's time we have this conversation.

Oy ! we identify as " heteronormative" unless we're schtupping.

Contrary to what many people think, heteronormativity is, in fact, the norm for the vast majority of people .

R21 Prof. Obvious

Wasn't the DiCaprio is gay theory based on interviews when he was young? He came off as super femme or something like that?

I remember his image being cleaned up right as Titanic happened. Before he was quite playful and half hinted at being not straight.

[quote] Heteronormativity doesn't impact you?

***cringe***

[quote]Wasn't the DiCaprio is gay theory based on interviews when he was young? He came off as super femme or something like that?

He looks moody and uninterested next to the endless string of young models he supposedly dates (although that could be a paparazzi thing); there was a rumor years ago that he was going to come out but was talked out of it by his management; the Lukas Haas rumors; the Tobey Maguire rumors; never marrying, never having a kid; the (admittedly vague) Q-Tip rumor. None of it very convincing, but persistent none the less.

[quote] Even my grandma in her Belgian nursing home knows that Bradley Cooper, Will Smith, Henry Cavill, and Jake Gyllenhaal are closet cases.

Jake G with Reese was beyond pathetic, even more pathetic than Jake G with Taylor Swift.

Ironically, I do think he made a cute couple (bearding or not) with Kirsten Dunst.

It might sound radical, but of the 4 mentioned, Jake G is for me the one who, at this point, doesn't have any business satying in the closet.

What kind of thread do these emoji indicate? 🫖 🍰 🧵

OP, if you start babbling on about half of Hollywood being gay, closeted, and in fake relationships, you're going to lose a lot of friends.

Tom & Zendaya - real

Kylie & Timothee - real

Taylor & Travis Kelce - really

Harry Styles - all relationships with women were real

Taylor & Travis - real not really

Staging a fake relationship is an outdated and impractical way of attracting publicity. A Listers never do it, just wannabes and hasbeens.

[QUOTE] Even my grandma in her Belgian nursing home knows that Bradley Cooper, Will Smith, Henry Cavill, and Jake Gyllenhaal are closet cases.

That's because she has Alzheimers and believes whatever nonsense you tell her.

Zendaya never managed to have successful screen chemistry with any leading man. Don't really care either way.

Hollywood is full of closet cases. Trying to deny that is not gonna fly.

Next you wanna tell us that Tom and Nicole were real?

R5 "why DLers think DiCaprio is gay. DL thinks every man is gay, especially if they are/were attractive."

Leo attractive! Oh my sides

*Were* might be the operative word there, R40. DiCaprio might not be *your* cup of tea, but remember that even straight guys raved about his beauty when he was around 21 to 26 years old. He was considered far prettier than Claire Danes in "Romeo + Juliet" and was said to make his love interest, as played by Kate Winslet, look "matronly" beside him in "Titanic." Pete Davidson and Tyler the Creator admitted having crushes on him when younger (Davidson even to jerking off to his image).

R41 *still* *gay*

Leo was considered very attractive in the 90s or he wouldn't have been cast as Romeo Montague, or as the romantic lead in Titanic. Even by 2013 he was still getting cast as the handsome romantic lead in massive films like Gatsby.

OP is the Gay & Bearding Troll. Been here since 2012 and takes every opportunity to declare that 'everyone and their grandmother' knows that various young actors and singers are gay, closeted and bearding.

Thinks Tom Holland, Zendaya, Paul Mescal, Taylor Swift, Henry Cavill, Gigi Hadid, all of One Direction, and anyone else unmarried by the age of 30 are gay and have been in fake relationships since their teenage years.

He also gets very angry if his view is challenged and will accused you of being a 'PR shill' or 'naive and gullible about Hollywood.'

This is the same troll who started all the Larry Stylinson threads about ten years ago.

I forgot about Jake G "dating" Taylor Swift for five minutes. That was just sad.

[quote]This is the same troll who started all the Larry Stylinson threads

That means they're probably a woman

R44 Oh, dear. Take your meds. Never even heard of anyone named Larry Stylinson. You made all that shit up, haven't you?

I’m going to stick up for OP just a little bit. When I was a kid I sat next to an older woman on a train not too long after the death of Liberace. She was sort of broken up about it and at one point said, “Some people are saying he was gay, but I don’t believe it.”

It was comical, but there is an underlying homophobia in her attitude. She wasn’t going to believe it because she was a fan and him being gay would be a bad thing.

Not the same thing as deciding to take the relationships of Clooney, Cruise, Jackman, etc at face value because you can’t know for sure. But, in the aggregate, it seems pretty likely that at least some celebrities are concealing their sexual preferences. If only because statistically it’s not believable that so few leading men are gay.

If OP is living and working in environments where people are discussing stories about celebrities they see in TMZ and the Daily Mail and insisting all those celebrities are straight, none of them could possibly be gay, then I could see how it might seem hurtful.

I am very glad I am not living or working in an environment where people discuss things like that. My associates and I know better than to admit we read trash like that.

I'm gay and I like being gay, it's a fun club to be in on most days, but I have always understood that we are a small minority. Therefore, my default has always been that someone is straight until they tell me otherwise.

I've discovered in my years of being on Datalounge that some of you are so starved for representation that everything celebrity-related is taken in and rebranded as gay. Two guys getting dinner, they're secretly fucking. Someone's cousin's friend's sister's ex assistant's stepbrother used to fuck the hot new twink star who has suddenly become A list. And they're always good-looking with good bodies. Gay speculation never happens around the unattractive or overweight guys.

People thinking celebrities are straight and that PR relationships are real has no impact on my life whatsoever, but I do worry about those whose lives it does impact, because outside of a gossip board, aren't there more important things to get worked up about?

It's just natural curiosity to speculate on celebrities who don't appear to be convincingly heterosexual. It's a harmless diversion as long as you don't take it seriously.

Let's say there is a celebrities we have the receipts for that they are actually gay. And there are people who take their every move to mean oh look, he is flirting with her, and they have chemistry, and they might be involved. It's about visibility and representation. And people who hide. They have financial reasons for that and being in the limelight is probably never easy. But still, if people knew that a proportion of their leading men, or action stars, or character actors are actually gay, that would change something.

I can not believe we seriously have to discuss this.

[quote]But still, if people knew that a proportion of their leading men, or action stars, or character actors are actually gay, that would change something.

The only thing it would change is it would end some careers.

Roll your eyes and move on, dear.

So the answer is for everyone to stay in the closet because they might lose a career? It seems people are bearding up even more these days. This doesn't always have to be PR, some bisexual people simply marry each other. But while people with actual influence are cringing in the closet, cosplaying as straight, gay rights are under attack everywhere.

Another opening another show.

[quote]The only thing it would change is it would end some careers.

Pedro Pascal is a good example. He would never had the red-hot career he has right now if he was out.

[QUOTE] seems people are bearding up even more these days.

Nope. You're hallucinating again.

How do YOU deal with being a throwback from the 1950s?

R44/R57

I particularly liked your threads: "The Trials of Jobless Joe - A new thread where we can laugh at Joe Locke's tragic attempts to find acting work." and "Next Dead Junkie Singer".

Troll.

r54 My point was that some actors coming out is not going to stop people being homophobic, isn't going to stop the attacks on gay rights, isn't going to change anything other than those people will see their careers end. You're acting like if only a few A listers came out then the world would change, which is about as moronic as people thinking Obama being elected would end racism.

Glad you appreciate them, R59

R60 It's equally moronic to proclaim it would change nothing.

It boils down to a bittersweet stew of authenticity and representation. At the same time, why would we trust people who pretend to be other people?

Even if a Hollywood relationship isn't real, that doesn't mean it's being done to hide someone's sexuality.

But honestly, I don't care. I think Zendaya and Holland are real, but if they aren't, it's irrelevant to me. I don't care about the personal lives of actors.

R42: the asterisks are for emphasis (not sure how to bold or italicize text, being an elder gay and all)

I occupy myself by not giving a flying fuck what other people think about them.

r62 Based on what? So many celebs have come out, what's changed? Who exactly needs to come out to bring about this change?

This seems more like you just wanting people to agree with you that the people you think are gay actually are, and trying to come up with some kind of moralistic reason to dismiss anyone who disagrees.

[quote]Who exactly needs to come out to bring about this change?

Anderson Cooper coming out was a huge deal here on DL back in 2012 (of course, DL had known about him way before then). Has his coming out made things easier for younger gay journalists, I wonder?

Being gay in journalism isn't really a big deal now. Yes, Anderson helped. Why David Muir is still in the closet (at least publicly) is anyone's guess.

Popular media outlets make up and perpetuate all kinds of fictional narratives about celebrities and train the public to accept them uncritically. That's how Donald Trump and Elon Musk got where they are today.

Of my top 10,000 problems, it's not even close to the bottom of the list.

R49 yet here you are posting "more important things" dear

" it seems pretty likely that at least some celebrities are concealing their sexual preferences. If only because statistically it’s not believable that so few leading men are gay."

DUH.

Like all the previous 10,000 theads on this topic this one will degenerate into a tiresome echo chamber between ancient closeted queens who swear Rock Hudson was the last bugger in Hollywood and lumpen frau stans who are more then happy to agree with them.

OP How do you deal with people viewing celebrities ...?

We view celebrities as reflections of ourselves.

Marilyn was a Size 24.

Leo is one of those who I found completely uninteresting looks wise so I honestly never cared if he was gay . Name one out gay actor who is a huge star. I wont hold my breath.

R49 is spot on. I don't understand why so many grown men "need representation" from celebrities. Hollywood is the land of make-believe, not civil rights. Why can't you guys just live your lives? Contrary to popular belief, celebrities aren't leaders of social movements. In fact, it's the "regular" citizens who are in the trenches doing battle. Support them or, better yet, join them and stop looking to famous people to do it for you. Be your own representative.

Pedro Pascal on America's political chaos: "Fear is the way they win, for one. So keep telling the stories and keep expressing yourself and keep fighting to be who you are. And I don’t know, f*ck the people that try to make you scared y’know and fight back. […] Don’t let them win."

Maybe you should start by coming out.

Oh... and Protect the Dolls!

Required reading for conspiracy theorists like the OP.

Comment from your piece, R80:

"Can I still side eye whatever PR nonsense Tom Cruise and Ana De Armas are engaging in?"

Here are some points I have (trying my best to maintain a balanced posture on this topic):

1. In an ideal world, we shouldn't care about celebs' relationships, but a lot celebs make tons of cash an publicity by selling their personal lives' "issues" to tabloids. I mean, how many times do magazines like People and US weekly need to put Jennifer Aniston on their covers cause she's giving an "exclusive interview" for the 1,000,000th time detailing her miserable love life?

2. Now, wehenver a gay-themed movie is about to be released, they have to market their "cutting-edge" approach of having two apparently straight actors as the lead roles. So they engage in this moronic publicity stunt of cosplaying gay in real life, but once the film is released, the actors are straighter than Chuck Norris and need to remind the world they are striclty pussyhounds. Thaat's why I'm glad films like "Queer" got totally ignored at the Academy Awards.

3. Hollywood has no moral in lecturing the average citizen about gay rights, tolerance, etc. cause, like most of you said before, a lot of male celebs' carreers will be damaged if they dare to come out.

Rock Hudson was not a pervert. He got the AIDs from a blood tranfusion during open heart surgery.

^ Correctomundo!

The old "Beard Club" Twitter account had some terrible speculation. It claimed that Prince Andrew and Russell Brand were gay and bearding, and when the truth proved otherwise, they accused them of being straight pedos. They also claimed Musk and Bezos were gay (and bearding). They were right about Lewis Hamilton, Simon Cowell, and a few others. It is now mostly a nutty conspiracy account.

People can't just be gay, it's always gay & bearding. Without the beard, the OP isn't interested. She's a female incel who lives to attack beautiful women.

I don’t have to deal with it.

OP is sitting having lunch with her new work colleagues

OP: So of course Taylor Swift is gay and bearding! You all know that, right?

Work Colleagues: 😐

OP: Surely you don't think she's straight? Jake Gyllenhaal, Harry Styles, Joe Jonas, Joe Alwyn and Travis Kelce are ALL GAY!!

Work Colleagues: Get up and leave

OP: cries in despair and starts this thread, hoping for love and acceptance

R85 - Simon Cowell is gay? This is the first I've ever heard that.

This is why we can't have nice things

R88 I'd like to add to your brilliant post:

Work colleagues-straight men: Why do gay dudes think every hot guy is gay?

Shit, I forgot the air quotes around "Hot" to establish that THEY aren't gay and don't think men are hot.

OP I couldn’t give a flying fuck. Unless I’m hoping to have sex with someone (especially a celebrity) there orientationnmeans nothing to me. It doesn’t make me feel better or worse. I derive my feelings of self worth other ways and in other places.

YMMV.

It's just sad that gay actors still have to be closeted if they want to be big stars in romantic leads and superhero/action movies, but that's just how it is. Middle America and certain foreign markets just won't go for an out gay actor in those roles, and the Industry knows that.

Some of the bearding relationships really are ridiculous and look so phony.

R94, please list all the actors you think are in 'bearding relationships' so we know exactly what type of crazy we're dealing with.

[QUOTE] Simon Cowell is gay? This is the first I've ever heard that.

He isn't. Nor is Lewis Hamilton.

It's one thing to contest the assumptions about some people's sexuality. It's another to frame everyone who states that the closet still very much exists as conspiracy theorist.

r95 it's been going on as long as there's been an entertainment industry.

Are there PR plants on this thread?

It's just ridiculous to assume that most actors are straight except for the few who are actually out. Remember your college acting progams, FFS. How many gay/bi guys were there? The acting profession attracts gay men, and to assume that only a very small percentage of Hollywood actors are gay and the rest are straight is just naive.

These days DL wants to rewrite not just its own history, but the whole history of Hollywood.

Next you're gonna tell us that Cary Grant was an exceedingly straight fella. Your gaslighting is too obvious. Try harder.

[QUOTE] Are there PR plants on this thread?

Yawn. So predictable. You never change.

[QUOTE] Your gaslighting is too obvious.

How can you gaslight an anonymous poster on a gossip site? You don't know the meaning of the word, numbskull.

Di Caprio is straight. If he was gay, closeted and bearding he'd want to create the impression of being a guy who is loyal and in age appropriate relationships, not represent himself as a sleazy creep who only dates a succession of women in their early 20s.

r99 And how many of your college acting class are now Hollywood stars? Posters like you are always skipping over the studio heads and other execs who decide who gets to the top.

R102 Your retort is reasonable.

Or he might simply be bi, R103.

[quote]And how many of your college acting class are now Hollywood stars? Posters like you are always skipping over the studio heads and other execs who decide who gets to the top.

Doesn't change the fact that lots of actors are gay or sexually fluid.

I slap faces viciously

[quote]And how many of your college acting class are now Hollywood stars? Posters like you are always skipping over the studio heads and other execs who decide who gets to the top.

Oh hi!

You mean to tell me 90% of actors will fuck anyone for a part and bisexuality is a job requirement!

It is not my place to tell anyone else how to be gay, and it's sure as hell not my place to tell anyone when or how they should be out publicly, especially when it can affect their ability to earn a living.

But their are other reasons why celebrities may not come out.

1) Others depend on their celebrity. If the lead actor comes out and they can't market a gay leading man to foreign markets or flyover, that affects more than just the studio, but everyone who earns a living from that one celebrity's ability to open a movie.

2) No one wants to be a role model. You come out, and all of a sudden, you have to be Mr. Perfect Gay. You have to speak to gay rights groups. You're expected to be front and center on gay rights. You're expected to make gay teens feel better about being gay teens. Most people don't want that responsibility.

R111 frau for brains

Thanks for triggering me again, OP with this subject that distresses me greatly.

I Show BUSINESS runs on nepotism and sex. If you are not nepo baby Keanu related to a producer but just a nobody from Bumfuck: Tommy Mapother,Billy Pitt,Matty McConaughey. Bend over honey regardless of your sexual preference. For some like Pitt & McConaughey it's all fun and they just shug it off. For others like Cruise it fucks them up for life. The casting couch works the same for boys as it does for girls .

r111 Noah Galvin talked about point two in his disastrous - but correct - Vulture interview

In an industry based on fantasy to speak your realty is career suicide. Lie or die.

^ Well noted.

R116 Because.... Tom Hardy's career is going so incredibly bad? What are you saying?

Revealing his gay experiences and treating it like the non-issue it was only added to his bad-boy appeal

Exactly

Tom Hardy is an A-List leading man? In what universe? 😂

^ In DListan

Nowhere did this thread say this is only about A-list stars. Anyone who is successful in Hollywood.

Specify. There's Hollywood successful then there's Hallmark Channel successful.

To believe a heterosexual never married middle aged man would live with another heterosexual never married middle aged for 30 years and be straight requires you have shit for brains or be a frau named Rose.

It's called a Boston Marriage dear

Either that or Lukas Haas is the best, most loyal best friend ever.

It's called a West Hollywood marriage. Mary.

Has DiCaprio ever convinced you in a straight leading role? He was very convincing with David Thewlis in a gay role.

R127

You're a dumbfuck Rose.

How the fuck does this dumb 🫖 🍰 thread have this many responses?

Why are you still posting stupid emoticons?

I don’t tend to engage in conversations about celebrities lives.

If for some reason, I was so moved, I would tell that person to look at rock Hudson, Ricky, Martin, and others. We don’t know these people in real life

It’s just another thread for some ancient posters to share their wish-fulfillment fantasies based on nothing much in the way of evidence.

For you hypocrites who take the time to go and post on a Gay Gossip Site that they self righteously couldn't give a damn who is gay and have zero interest in gay gossip as it in no way interests them or impacts them in anyway:

Anosognosia

A lack of self-awareness, sometimes called Anosognosia, is the inability to recognize one's own deficits, whether they are neurological, psychiatric, or personality-based. This lack of insight can lead to a wide range of problems, from noncompliance with treatment to putting oneself in dangerous situations.

This term refers to the specific neurological condition where individuals are unaware of their deficits, often associated with brain lesions, stroke, or certain mental illnesses.

A lack of self-awareness can make it difficult to understand how your actions and words affect others, potentially leading to misunderstandings and hurt feelings.

Individuals with a lack of self-awareness may struggle with empathy, sympathy, and the ability to read social cues, making it difficult for them to connect with others.

R135 Ageism will get you far here.

Oh look - R136 has learned how to google! Well done R136!

“Oh yeah, Ginny, Tom Cruise certainly does have a way with the ladies! He always finds the ones that love ‘lady’s men’!

After she saw Titanic:

"Well it's all rubbish. No young woman would leave a handsome rich man for a penniless effeminate boy."... The Mum

“Well, Mike, maybe Aaron Rodgers just likes to sail the seas. Dude goes through so much pussy. Way more than we do (other guy is straight).”

How many 40ish straight men have you ever known who've never had, at the very least, a long-term live-in relationship with a woman? Most of them are married and have kids by that age.

Leo, Jake G, Chris Pine etc. are not straight. At least not 100% straight.

Ben Affleck, Jude Law, Johnny Depp, Ryan Phillippe and Brad Pitt are typical of straight men who are wealthy. Their relationship histories are pretty standard that way.

R136 WHAT ARE YOU 12YRS OLD!

Saved ya the trouble Cheryl

Jake,Leo,Lukas,Hugh,Travis,Aaron,Sam,Trevor,Nick they are ALL PUSSY HOUNDS!

All those PATERNITY SUITS prove it. RIGHT.

^Butt Babies don't live.

STOP YOUR FAG FANTASY NOW !! These fellas are all STRAIGHT! and given half the chance they would JUMP at the opportunity to FUCK ME. PM for my EVIDENCE.

What are people doing in a gay gossip forum arguing "I don’t tend to engage in conversations about celebrities lives."

Anyone?

R147 they are doing self delusion

Years ago "ABC Insider" here told us about Peter Jennings and David Muir's Afternoon Delights at the Empire Hotel near ABC studios. My straight friends would've never believed it.

Such celebrities did not personally choose to live a lie; they were told to do so. In exposing them, you may be coming up against a powerful machine that does not appreciate that. To whatever degree your question was sincere, I'd say live YOUR life, and let this go. Roll your eyes or laugh to yourself.

R150

[QUOTE] How many 40ish straight men have you ever known who've never had, at the very least, a long-term live-in relationship with a woman? Most of them are married and have kids by that age. Leo, Jake G, Chris Pine etc. are not straight. At least not 100% straight.

Leo dated Bar Rafaeli for five years and they lived together. Jake Gyllenhaal has been dating the model Jeanne Cadieu since 2018. Seven years. Chris Pine dated Annabelle Wallis for four years, from 2018-2022.

As for Leo 'not being convincing' in straight roles - this really did make me laugh. If he wasn't convincing as Romeo he wouldn't have been cast as Jack in Titanic. He was 100% convincing as Gatsby and all the other straight roles he's played and been awarded for.

I feel sorry for the OP. They don't seem to know the difference between gay and Datalounge Gay.

Leo, Simon Cowell, Jake, Taylor Swift, Harry Styles are Datalounge Gay.

Gosh. These purists who think they will win a Nobel Peace Prize for defending a male celeb "straightness" are so insufferable.

[QUOTE] Gosh. These purists who think they will win a Nobel Peace Prize for defending a male celeb "straightness" are so insufferable.

No, YOU are insufferable for wanting all the young handsome white actors to be gay, and thinking every gay man is going to agree with you and shout 'yassss queen fuck all those evil beards'.

R155 That's such a cry-baby response.

R155 CAPS QUEEN TRIGGERED

R156 - get fucked, you miserable misogynist. I notice you're not declaring that young female actors are secretly gay, just the men you lust over.

Declaring that young attractive straight guys are gay & bearding and then hating on their girlfriends for being beards is incel behaviour. OP = incel.

R152 's "evidence" are the captions in People magazine photos.

What do you mean "deal with"? What's to deal with?

That’s every day here at Frau Central. They cannot accept the existence of bisexuality, or that a drag queen might actually be geigh. Celebrities, especially one with a penis and a pulse? Nothing but straight is possible.

R154 yeah the most pathetic are the ancient closet cases like R155 . Clifton Webb redux. She shows up on every thread with her signature antidiluvian citation method and CAPS, NO ONE IS GAY except her. Trans are the DEVIL'S WORK. Her whole ugly basket of 20th century deplorable mantras.Justifying it by babbling her same self loathing but PROUD GAY MAN shtick. Blocked Me-Maw MARY but somehow she always regurgitates back . Self loathing bore needs to crawl back to her crypt in CAPS.

R150.In exposing them, you may be coming up against a powerful machine that does not appreciate that.

Hold me David !

Femcel Fraus + Ancient Closet Queens = 2025 Datalounge

R155 is the same prelapsarian closeted codger who starts all the threads about long dead gay pornies who he use to wank to in 1985 and argues how "straight" they really were. Hilariously sad old git.

“Ginny, I loved Michael Jackson too!”

You make that sound so niche, R166

Sadly getting fucked by Jake Gaylenhall is not a viable option for R158. Makes her peckish.

R168 not a niche. A Dl predilection

Maybe the examples discussed are not gay, some might be bi. Doesn't change the fact that people treat them as straight. The question how you react to this still stands. It seems you react pretty strongly, based on this tread alone.

OP, I hope you yourself are an exemplar to our community and out to everyone you know, including at work.

Yes I am.

I condole them.

Question for those of you who derive your self worth from a need to identify a public figure as gay: just say that said public figure comes out and confirms that they’re gay - then what? What happens next? How will your life change?

Log Cabinette^

Take a Sociology class, or a Psychology class, R175.

Right, so neither of you can answer the question.

Answer it yourself, doofus, because it is inherently about you. Your lack of education and self-awareness. It’s a ridiculous question emanating from crushing homophobia. A similar quality to “what is gawd like?”