MSNBC—Part 65

Prior Thread

As always, max out prior thread before posting here.

Thank you, OP.

Breaking News: All The Big Performers at Trump’s Inauguration Events: Carrie Underwood, Village People, Nelly and More.

Also, Lee Greenwood, Jason Aldean, Rascal Flats, Gavin DeGraw, Kid Rock, and Billy Rae Cyrus. Star-studded.

A shift from his 2017 inauguration, which struggled to attract high-profile performers.

And in keeping with his practice of saying Yes to everything, rapper Snoop Dogg is expected to perform at the “Inaugural Crypto Ball".

All of them are dead to me, but then they were even before the went MAGA rimming orange sphincters.

I wonder if Snoop being a former pimp will hook up the new tech Bros with some "entertainment" they are going to be needing.

And we could have avoided almost all of our current social problems if Jim Crow and the Klan were appropriately dealt with.

Glad Alex Witt has abandoned those hideous bangs. Or was it a wiglet?

Not so fast, Yes the ring will be kissed when and if it expeditious to do so. When Neo team R faction is seen to loose its convenience though the ring will poo popped. I believe it's business that runs the world not team D or R. I see it like this. For example, when Liz Truss, the former U.K. Prime minister got the Ire of The City Of London in 2022 she amongst other important things to the financial class, capped every energy bill for household in the U.K. The investor class was outraged to have their profits limited. The budget office screamed bloody murder and the pound lost 20 percent overnight on threat bonds would not be serviceable.. The Lords, kind of an equivalent, senate type bunch, but appointed by hereditary, not merit or vote, in the England case, revoked her ASAP. She lasted 49 days. Of course thats a parliamentary system but the US system can be accommodated to make sure things work out right for the right people. An American equivalent of Trusses early departure is possible if The orange stain steps off the line too far.

Gavin DeGraw?? Didn't know he was MAGA, but given that his dad was a prison guard, perhaps I shouldn't be too surprised. That's disappointing as I like his first 3-4 discs.

Or should I say, used to like...

I still like Gavin DeGraw. He’s forgiven.

[quote]Glad Alex Witt has abandoned those hideous bangs. Or was it a wiglet?

The viewer feedback must have been brutal. It was definitely a wig.

As requested from the previous thread:

Keith O starts to discuss L O'D at around the 39m mark.

Olbermann can hold a grudge. The segment on O’Donnell was previously aired in January 2023 at the 35:26 mark.

Sorry R8, they may be true in the UK but in America, we are full of stupid rubes that have become cult member of Dump. If he said tomorrow that Russia was our enemy and we need to go fight in Ukraine, all the MAGAts would say OK. If he said the price of eggs don't really matter now, OK. If he said we need to embrace all electric vehicles, OK. That's the difference between a cult and people who respond with some minor root in ideology or even just self preservation.

R13 I remember listening to that anecdote, and thinking Lawrence had been quite gracious in their chance meeting.

Tump's new $hitcoin makes him billions overnight. Days before he becomes President.

It's like living in some perverse Scrooge McDuck cartoon. Can't wait for the new Great Depression.

The 2nd Great Depression will be preceded by a pump and dump for The Trump $hit¢oin.

Trump will take all of our money.

Of course crypto is a scam, but now backed by so many wealthy investors and tech bros that, along with Trump's thumb on the scale, it will become too big to fail. After the current head of the SEC is gone on Monday, the floodgates of corruption are flung open. It's no risk, all reward - for the right players.

SNL is currently skewering Ari Melber and his rap lyrics, as well as the entire gang.

SNL skit cut away to Rachael, camera went to Chris Hays 😂

Symone’s outfit!!!

That was hysterical, R20! Laughed my ass off.

CNN has Anderson Cooper with a panel discussing Trump's inauguration. MSNBC spoils its employees and has nothing of the sort on.

Not going to watch, who wants to see Dump, MAGA and a bunch of black rappers dancing to YMCA? Soooo CRINGE!

It's in my genes to be a news junkie. Handed down from my grandparents to my parents and to me.

R16 The release of the $MELANIA meme token, tanks the value of $TRUMP by 40% in 10 minutes.

I guess there's a limit to the bullshit that even MAGA fools will eat.

So little time left for Biden to issue pardons. Not that they've done anything wrong, I'm hoping he pre-emptively pardons some of the Jan 6 Commission witnesses who are on the Kash Patel retaliations list, to spare them the expense and further MAGA threats of the Trump retribution prosecutions.

Now that Rashida is gone, who do we see about removing the slime bags from Morning Blow?

Joe & Mika will be insufferable today.

Don’t even watch it today.

Oh Doris!!!

Nicolle Wallace got the memo. She’s wearing black.

She needs to get rid of that helmet hair though. She should take a hint from Alicia.

Wearing black and laughing her stupid ass off, R32. Only reason I still watch is for her guests; I mute Wallace's parts of the discussion.

She takes nothing seriously. Nicolle Wallace is laughing while the ship is sinking.

R34 Has anyone here, other than d-w-n, repeatedly expressed their annoyance with Nicolle's frequent laughter? I get it, there's stuff about on-air personalities that bugs me too. However, I don't think it indicates that her ass is stupid. She's not stupid.

I enjoy the way Nicolle, and Chris, and Alex, tend to laugh, chuckle or smirk, when reporting even serious topics. In a way, it's a sane way of dealing with the ludicrous, hypocritical, and often absurd facts they are relaying.

I have never found Nicolle’s laugh to be annoying and I have never thought her to be disingenuous. She is polished and knowledgeable, and I never feel as if she’s lecturing her audience. I enjoy her shows especially when Michael Steele is on. I like Alex, too.

Chris Hayes does get on my nerves and I usually change the channel when he’s on.

Fuck. Can't believe that Biden pardoned the Jan 6th Committee members, along with some of the Capitol Police who testified, and totally overlooked witnesses inside the Trump administration, like Cassidy Hutchinson, who were so instrumental in exposing his movements on that day. That's tragic. They are now seriously in jeopardy, and not in a position to bear the cost of a defense. I hope some orgs step up.

Agree with R36. I believe there’s Trumper’s on these threads?

Nicolle Wallace will immediately go back to the Republican Party the minute Trump croaks or finishes his term. There’s nobody she loves more than George Bush.

Oh, yes, R35 and friends, *I* am the "bad guy" here for pointing out the frivolity of your favorite former-Republican mouthpiece. Remember, too, Wallace was the woman who, with Steve Schmidt, foisted Sarah Palin onto the American landscape.

Get back to me in a year or so after she succumbs to MAGA.

SMH

[quote]Fuck. Can't believe that Biden pardoned the Jan 6th Committee members, along with some of the Capitol Police who testified, and totally overlooked witnesses inside the Trump administration, like Cassidy Hutchinson, who were so instrumental in exposing his movements on that day. That's tragic. They are now seriously in jeopardy, and not in a position to bear the cost of a defense. I hope some orgs step up.

I wonder if Alyssa Farrah Griffin will be handcuffed and carted off to jail live on 'The View' this week or next ?

If you don’t think Nicolle Wallace is on your side you need to get off this platform and rewatch inauguration.

[quote] I wonder if Alyssa Farrah Griffin will be handcuffed and carted off to jail live on 'The View' this week or next ?

Oh I hope so.

Keep it up, MAGAF R42. Maybe someone is paying attention (MSNBC does monitor DL) and you'll be assigned kitchen duty.

P.S. I didn't watch today's Satanic Second Coming ... and if anything needs being done, it is you kissing my ass!

Now go salute your Orange Pimp.

I think Andrew Weissmann will be on quite regularly for the next four years which is fine by me. He knows his stuff and explains the law well.

Was this Inauguration Day or Coronation Day?

Was this the first televised luncheon?

Who blew up0 the Melania doll?

Trump not putting his hand on the Bible? Is he both our first Capitalist Billionaire President and closet ATHEIST president?

The Hillbilly ass south never won. They’re just ig’nant and drunk on themselves.

Good on Lawrence for pointing out how the media treated Biden so disrespectfully in the Oval Office and yet kisses Trump’s orange ass.

[quote] Trump not putting his hand on the Bible?

Can't blame him, it wasn't a Trump Bible.

He's a Satanist, and only holds the Bible upside down.

[quote]Good on Lawrence for pointing out how the media treated Biden so disrespectfully in the Oval Office and yet kisses Trump’s orange ass.

Good to know Lawrence is still cutting through the bullshit while I'm in blackout mode. I didn't watch MSNBC or any news network today.

I want Ari in every way possible. I bet it's a lovely dong

Ari only likes BBC (& on the low).

[quote]Trump not putting his hand on the Bible?

He was afraid he might burst into flames if he touched the Bible while declaring that he'd "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

I think Ari is a grow-er not a show-er. When he's flaccid, I'm sure he's about 2 " buried in a bush.

I want to get in bed with Pablo Torre. Something so sexy and hot about that guy.

Ari is a hairy as a bear under those suits. I do love his smile, he knows that's one of his best assets but I would love to see the others.

Joe was annoyed with Mika this morning, "Would you let me talk."

R47 this time the South will rise again, Mame!

It’s so hard for Joe to get a word in edgewise.

John + Joe.

Off to watch Finding Your Roots before Trump cancels the show and deports everyone involved.

Ari Melber just aired the SNL skit of himself. Trying to be self deprecating, but I hope he realized how stupid he looks doing those rap quotes. He comes across as a 14 year old teenager worshiping his idols.

Superficial observation.

I adore Rachel Maddow.

Still, that shirt neckline under jacket should be avoided. She seems to have a wide, tall neck and a small head and that shirt neckline emphasizes it in an unflattering way.

I feel bad for this kid

R65 I feel bad for him, too, but for different reasons. If he took a shower and got a nice haircut, he'd be a hunk-in-the-making. But he chooses to look like that right now...

Dude better move out of the house ASAP.

He's not the only one in danger, a lot of EX-Wives turned in their MAGA husbands.

Not a Trump fan but England ended slavery in 1830 without a war by paying slave owners for their slaves.

Ryan Reilly's making me Rigid.

Rachel had the bishop who pissed off Trump on. She's cool.

Bishop Budde deserves a Time Magazine cover story on humility and dignity.

She deserves TIME Magazine's PERSON OF THE YEAR for 2025.

She's already feeling the hateful wrath of MAGAts for simply asking for a little empathy and compassion from their dear leader. Welcome to the new America.

I am really starting to feel like I live in Germany now just before the war. People on the right are so one sided, so vile, so rude, so hateful, so mean spirited, nothing is sacred to them anymore. Wait until Friday when Dump comes to LA and starts some massive deportation stunt. I am sure Elon will "accidentally" do another one of his salutes.

Rachel is talking a lot about how unpopular Trump’s pardons are and how making other hopeful noises as if she views it as her mission to “keep hope alive.” Kind of reminds me of the excited build-up to the Mueller Report.

Rachel lies.

This author / professor Arthur Brooks on 'Morning Joe' is fucking sexy, without even trying to be. A weekend with him would make me 'stay happy' like he suggests.

r76, Rachel never lies. Rachel is fully documented in her supporting facts and her conclusions, opinions, are well-thought-out and perspicacious.

Fuck off on trying to denigrate one of the great Truth Tellers of American History.

Also, r76, what are your degrees in and from which institutions?

MAGAT Quisling alert @ R76

[quote]Rachel is talking a lot about how unpopular Trump’s pardons are

Trump’s pardons are popular. Where is Rachel’s evidence that they’re not??

R76/R80 = the boy who was born with his head up his ass.

[quote]Trump’s pardons are popular. Where is Rachel’s evidence that they’re not??

R80 lies.

From the link below:

"Only about 2 in 10 support pardoning most Jan. 6 participants"

Why did Joy Reid wear a burgundy bathrobe to host her show tonight ? Her stylist forgot to launder her clothes this week ?

Poor Michael Fanone's mother was terrorized. Scary.

So MAGA pulled up to the mother of a police officer who defended the Capital and threw shit on his mother? And didnt they also take a shit on the Capital floor during the insurrection? I see a pattern. MAGA has a SCAT fetish.

Kash Patel is a grubby little psychopath. If confirmed, it sounds as if Frank Figliuzzi is recommending career FBI agents who can comfortably do so, to consider making their exit. Combine that with the other woefully unqualified hyper-partisan appointees, and the safety, security, and quality of life in this country are going to nosedive a lot faster than people anticipate. I'm preparing my go bag.

Actual terrorist and Russia going to love this. Nothing more inviting that the skilled FBI leaving and replaced with a side show. In a few months it wont be safe to go to any large events, mark my words, we WILL have some terrible attack on Dump's watch.

Rachel made too big a deal out her the Breaking News about Hegseth and sought to give the impression that it might be important when it was a relatively minor disclosure that is very unlikely to change any votes.

I’m beginning to think she peddles hope the way Fox News peddles fear.

R88 The thing is it's not just Rachel. Since this came public yesterday, all the reporters and pundits have treated it like a game-changer. When clearly the Repugs don't give a shit, they are not swayed. Maybe Murkowski. Personally, I don't think these allegations matter when compared to the fact that he is just supremely unqualified for the job. Also, that he likes to get wasted when he drinks.

They're all anonymous smears. Except for my ex-sister-in-law. And my mother.

Hopefully, Hegseth will get approved, then maybe two weeks into the job....

He'll get hammered in some DC bar, then driving home, he'll speed thru a red light, hit an oncoming vehicle - a vehice driven by either John Roberts or Clarence Thomas - and a lot of our problems will be solved.

Looks like Joke and Mika survive. I check in occasionally but won’t watch. They’re probably throwing the trump stories to Willie and Johnathan while Joke/Mika sticking with sports/50 over 50. SHAMEFUL COWARDS!

[quote]Trump’s pardons are popular.

Only with White People.

The rest of us are not so sure.

Only with stupid white people.

Nothing in your posting has anything to do with MSNBC. So, I'm going to have to give you an oh look. another Trump thread.

Two hours of Chris Jansing is a long slog.

With my blinding hatred of Trump, I can no longer have MSNBC on in the background for fear that he'll emerge live or on tape.

r97, then you are censoring yourself for Trump?

When I'm actively watching the channel. R98, I can easily reach for the mute button when Trump comes on. That's not as practical when I have MSNBC on more as background noise.

Nicolle Wallace is on now. I consider her show a safe space.

Trump Suggests He Could Strip MSNBC Of Their Broadcast License

They don’t have a broadcast license since they are not broadcast.

^^^Remember before the election when the media was busy normalizing Trump's antics because his chaos was good for them? While MSNBC is not as guilty as other news outlets, they had to know the honeymoon would end the moment anything unflattering gets published about him. Press freedom was on the ballot last year and we had Trump's first failed term to know how adversarial the relationship was between him and the media. Americans voted against preserving it.

Katie Phang bringing on James Carville is a bad move. His take on politics is more irrelevant than ever.

I hope this clears the MSNBC-relevant censors.

I'm still learning the peculiarities of trying to watch MSNBC on Peacock, now that I've paused YouTubeTV after another price hike. It seems you can watch the slate of MSNBC weekday shows from DLWH onward, but only on-demand the following day. I'm not certain what time they become available, after having checked up until 3AM PT. The episodes remain accessible for 3 days.

The two exceptions are Rachel and Morning Joe. For some reason, they make MJ available the same day on-demand. And for Rachel, the show is replaced by a collection of segment clips. Unfortunately, they are not dated, so when possible, it may be better to stream them at NBC News or YouTube, where more info is available.

It may end up being more satisfactory to just stream clips of all these MSNBC shows same-day on NBC News, I'm still experimenting.

You might ask why the hell I'm bothering with Peacock, but at $20 per year vs $85 per month for YTTV, I felt I should give it a try - before possibly reverting to my post-election news fast. Also surprisingly they have first-run films like Conclave and Wild Robot.

R105 That sounds rather laborious just to watch television.

[quote]Two hours of Chris Jansing is a long slog.

Two minutes of Chris Jansing is a long slog.

Have we gotten any word about when/where Alex will turn up on assignment?

They really screwed up the coverage of the Hegseth voting on the senate floor. The audio is terrible.

I was half expecting Rachel Maddow saying, "Live from outside the Senate Floor, this is Rachel Maddow saying 'Love One Another'. Let's eavesdrop on the senators..." (It works for Julie Chen Moonves when she closes out the 'Big Brother' episodes).

And they took down the onscreen tally.

Does this Julie creature ever shut up?! I half expect Will Rogers to step down from his pedestal and walk away.

I’m going to practice the duck and cover drill now.

Corey shut the f up ! While you babbled on and on (trying to make a name for yourself live on air) Rachel ate a steak dinner. GTF off the air now.

I really enjoy when columnist Jennifer Rubin is a guest on one of the MSNBC shows, but really - she's only 62 years old ? That's a rough 62 ! I thought she was at least 72, seeing her tonight being a guest on Ali. For comparison's sake, Jill Wine-Banks is 81 years old and looks younger than Rubin.

Nick Brown - Washington state AG - is absolutely gorgeous ! What a sexy guy. He's guesting on Ali Velshi tonight. Geez, Louise !

[quote]Have we gotten any word about when/where Alex will turn up on assignment?

She will be reporting from grocery stores across the country, giving us daily reports on the price of eggs.

She needs to start at the NIH and tell us all about the human vaccine for Bird Flu...

Every day Trump and his ilk reveal the true banality of evil.

It is based on greed.

Greed is NOT good.

“Wow! Rachel Maddow has horrible ratings. She’ll be off the air very soon. MSNBC IS CLOSE TO DEATH. CNN HAS REACHED THE BOTTOM. This is a good thing. They are the Enemy of the people!” Trump wrote in a Truth Social post.

Rachel is doing her 100 days to burn off her work requirement for the year.

Once MSNBC morphs, we will see where she lands.

Her last night rating sucked because it was just the senate vote on Hegseth. I turned...

Nice to know that President Neck Pussy has enough free time to obsess over cable TV ratings rather than focusing on the needs of the country. I hope the 49.9% of the electorate who voted to fuck over the country are proud of his antics.

President Mango basically admitted that Elon Musk stole the election. Granted, there’s no proof (as of yet), but I will NEVER stop believing that election was stolen and Mango, as he has done with other matters before, basically told on Elon and himself.

Let’s discuss that!

R122 I've always thought that if there was credible evidence of election irregularities beyond social media speculation, the best time for it to come out would be after Donald Trump took office. The people with evidence should have spent the entire transition period and the first few months of Trump's presidency putting everything together with a planned release of the findings in mid-to-late 2025. There are two reasons why that timeframe would be the most effective. First, it would delegitimize his claims of a "mandate." Next, the scandal would hang over his entire second term, making it more difficult for him to govern, easier for Democrats to make gains in 2026, if conditions for free and fair elections are still in place, and failing to follow through on the promises (aka 'lies') his agenda called for. History will remember him as an illegitimate leader in addition to being a felon whose disastrous first term ended with an attempted coup he incited.

He'd never voluntarily give up power because he has no shame. His MAGA base will always view him as the second coming, even if he said "I stole the election and you all fell for it." The only way he'd resign is if Republican politicians turn on him, which is highly unlikely considering their record of backtracking and minimizing his actions. We've seen how they handled him after the Access Hollywood tape was released and then going from near universal condemnation on January 6, 2021 to "It wasn't a big deal." Don't expect them to suddenly grow spines and act in the best interests of the country.

Plus, there's no happy ending. A Trump resignation means a J.D. Vance presidency. There's no lesser of two evils, just two evils. America voted to screw itself on November 5th and we all have to live through it.

But if it could be proven somehow that Trump stole the election and he was forced to resign (not believing any of this will happen, just going with the scenario), shouldn’t JD Vance also have to resign? They were on the same ticket, so if Trump’s win were deemed illegitimate, wouldn’t that apply to him also?

It's amazing what 1/4 of a Billion dollars from one individual will do to boost your campaign.

Trump definitely thinks he will be there for the full term, He’s looking forward to the US 250th and World Cup in 2026, and the Olympics in 2028. No mention of World Pride in DC this summer!

Michael Steele is SPICY this morning…

Michael Steele should be the Dem nominee in 2028. He knows his shit.

r126, he will be there. Our only last best chance is with a Democratic Congress, like last time.

At least the history loops are happening sooner.

Michael Steele is a Republican.

R130 Steele has said over and over again 'he used to be a Republican'. He left the party when Trump took over in 2016, and is now an Independent. Let him run as the dem nominee (like Sanders wanted to in 2016).

Not according to his Wikipedia page. In fact he considered a run for the Republican nomination for governor of Maryland in 2021.

Then he lies to his audience regularly, referring to himself as an Independent. He also says (regularly), "I didn't want to leave the republican party but the republican party left me." (I get so tired of hearing that from both Republicans and Democrats).

Michael Steele has said he hates Trump and he hates what the modern-day Republican Party has become, but he has never left the party, and I don't think he has even renounced any of his political past, as have some of the other Never Trumpers. Steele still longs for the days of Bush, McCain, Romney, etc.

Here is Michael Steele from October 2024:

[quote] DeSanto focused on the 2024 election, remarking to Steele, “You were once chair of the Republican Party in 2010. You wrote a book called Right Now: A 12-Step Program for Defeating the Obama Agenda, but you have made no bones about it in this race. You support Kamala Harris.” [bold] He asked Steele if he was still a Republican. [/bold]

[quote] [bold] Steele said, “Yes, absolutely.” [/bold] He explained how, in 1976, he made “a conscious choice to join a party that was an anathema to many of my friends and family members” because his mother taught him to be a leader, not a follower when it came to things that mattered to him. “I discovered that the Republican Party is the political home for African Americans. This is where we found our political legs, our political voice, and began to become a part of the political leadership of this country.” Steele noted that the first Black members of Congress, first Black senators, and first Black governors were all Republicans, saying that the party was founded on a fundamental principle: individual liberties and rights. “That’s an important value for me. I cannot compromise that.”

I'm with R122. But I think it's too late to do anything about it.

The window was closed Inauguration Day. Anyone who had any power to do anything has since been replaced. And now they are taking steps to systematically erase all evidence on social media. For example, they are in the process of erasing all footage of JS insurrectionists attacking the White House so that Trump's version of "a love fest" will be all that survives many years from now.

R122 R123 I've heard these suggestions tossed around, and that proof will come to light in late 2025. But no proposed theories on how it was orchestrated. MAGA at least had Italian satellites, Venezuelan software, trash bags full of ballots, and something about Bluetooth devices. What am I missing about the the big 2024 steal?

R136, they may be scrubbing it from the Internet but hopefully there should always be plenty of footage filmed by the media (ABC, CBS, NBC, NYT, etc.) at the event as a public record, so not sure how Trump and his gang will manage to get rid of all of that.

^^By buying the Media! Have you not been paying attention?????

What part of FACISM do you not understand???

Ali Vitali already taking vacay days.

J.D. Vance says the rioters on Jan 6 fall into violent, non-violent groups, and a "small gray zone". Then after they are all pardoned he says each of the 1600 were looked at individually. That means all the pardoned violent convicted rioters ended up in a small gray zone, where they were either "prosecuted under a double standard" or "had their civil rights infringed upon". He wants Americans to know that "no one is an angel, no one is perfect". I feel better about it already.

[quote]He wants Americans to know that "no one is an angel, no one is perfect".

Let he who hasn't beaten a police officer blood, shat on a congressperson's desk, and caused hundreds of thousands of dollars of damage to a federal building cast the first stone!

Amen. Millions of dollars even.

r141, under Plantation Lynching Conventions.

The KKK is totally justified under all conditions, and no White Supremacist will be held accountable, for protecting White Supremacy.

Or as our Supreme Court call it...Originalism.

Jesse Kirsch…you sexy devil.

R145, I use to think that until I found out he was married. 🙁

Richard Painter on with Ari! It's been a long time; always glad to have his insight.

Is there something amiss with Amy Klobuchar? She seems more than a bit flighty lately, beginning at the inauguration.

I think she sees the complete horror of Mr. T.

It is fear.

It's almost like Trump is above politics now. These poltico shows discussing issues like Jack Smith etc have no bearing on Trump. He is too busy making deals with CEOs.

Trump is king! He is untouchable. He signs proclamations and executive orders. Then goes off to Nar la ago to meet with CEOS

R150, Trump is busy stealing ALL of our money.

The rest is diversion.

R149- Amy Klobuchar ike every other politician who is not in Trump's circle should be fearful because Trump is going to tear this shit up. If you thought his first term was bad, strap in, buckle up for the horror show to come in the next 4, err 8 years.

RFK Jr senate confirmation tomorrow morning at 10:00 AM. This should be a barrel of laughs.

Can't stand listening to him struggle to speak. I'll pass.

Gretchen WItmer's book tour : She started early on 'Morning Joe' , then made it over to ABC's "The View", and now on "The Reid Out" - and she hasn't changed clothes since. Didn't she bring a change of clothes when she packed her suitcases to visit NY ?

It's time for MSNBC to do an evening panel show, it's been awhile. There's plenty for them to discuss.

Rashida's successor is coming from CNN where she, among other things, launched Abby Phillip's panel show.

One of Abby's recent panel discussions.

I can't wait for a year from now when we'll have a "news" show in which the pundit panelists will actually be mudwrestling.

Hoping Symone Sanders will be on a panel.

I want Katy Tur and Symone Sanders on a panel fighting with each other.

Ali Vitali is an access journalist.

Joking about Dump’s Dance.

She is too cutesy, they need to replace this quack.

I haven't watched recently. So is Lamire fully relieved of his WTE duties? Has he been upgraded on MJ, to possible future co-host?

Lemire is supposed to host the 4th hour, but Joe & Mika won’t let go!!

Mika said this morning that she has tried to blame everything on Joe Biden. Republican twat.

Think Jim Acosta will end up on MSNBC?

^bite your tongue

[quote]I want Katy Tur and Symone Sanders on a panel fighting with each other.

In a vat of jello.

And blaming Biden, r164, is one reason not to watch MJ until JoeScar converts to Episcopalianism/Anglicanism.

[quote]Think Jim Acosta will end up on MSNBC?

No, he's announced his own Substack show.

I can’ imagine MSNBC is in a position to make major hires right now.

Damn, damn DAMN, R147--I missed it!

I adore Richard Painter, and I too have missed him. I remember he has some sort of auto-immune disorder, so I hope he's well.

What is that annoying "bloop" sound that MSNBC is transmitting from the studio during "DWH" this afternoon?

Thanks, "MSNBC intern assigned here;" the audio problem described at R172 has been resolved.

R153. Wow, I had no idea all the utterly crazy shit RFK Jr has said.

As someone stated at the time of Kennedy's nomination: "Our children's young friends will be dying."

I don't often watch Rachel's show live, but watching her dissect Kennedy's session tonight, may be worth the loss of sleep.

Is Ari's tech staff from some private school AV club?

Ari is just blabbering. Is it a teleprompter failure.

Marsha Blackburn needs a kick in her white Supremacist Cunt.

It seems like all their tech staff is from the High School AV club for the past few weeks - Joy Reid was delayed getting on the air for about ten minutes the other night (Ari had to run over) due to tech issues, The Weekend had tech problems a few weekends ago, I saw Nicole Wallace with tech problems last week...it's been pretty bad.

They can't afford to pay professional tech staff any more. The ratings are too bad. Plus Rachel's salary.

Is tonight a RACHEL REPEAT?

^^I know! That's what I thought!! ...but it did eventually go in a different direction. He hadn't yet been "reelected" first time she told it. Now the story has evolved.

And that story about the cult Tulsi Gabbard's in? Is that supposed to be new information? I posted that story months ago, way before the election.

I wish Tulsi weren't such a mess. She looks like a fun hang.

Did Rachel have to throw out her show because of the breaking news plane crash?

Yes, but at least she didn’t complain about in on air.

MSNBC, keep sending Peter Alexander to press briefings, he asks the questions the American people would ask.

r181, I think it is brilliant that Rachel is creating a drumbeat by REPEATING STORIES ON CONTENT.

She is turning herself into her own echo chamber by revisiting stories to connect the dots on Trump evil.

Brilliant, I say, BRILLIANT!

She needs to go back and revisit Russian interference and complicity of the Republican Party for the 2016 election and undo the revisionism on the Mueller Investigation. Now that Bill Barr is gone, she can report on the corruption of Trump's FIRST term.

TV alert: Jacob Soboroff will be a guest on Stephen Colbert’s show tonight.

Rachel is doing a good job of making sense while in bizzaro world.

Sean Duffy's baptism as Transportation Secretary wasn't a disaster, but it was fun to watch him struggle to find something to say that wasn't covered numerous times already by the other officials. He did namecheck Trump twice so I guess mission accomplished. It must be tough trying to match the new standard set by Pete Buttigieg.

"I wish the cameras weren't there."

Sean Duffy still thinks he’s on The Real World: Boston.

Sean Duffy said absolutely nothing of interest. I didnt realize who he was, I just kept asking why is this guy repeating generic comments others have said hours ago. He seem so proud of it too. Like look mommy I did number 2 all by myself.

I'm sure his wife, fellow RealWorld alum, and a member of Fox News friends & family, was beaming with pride.

R193 As much of a royal Trump suck-up as she is, I will hand it to her, she looks pretty fucking good for having birthed their 9 biological children.

Duffy is still as hot as he was 25+ years ago on RW.

As far as his wife, she has 'auditioned' for The View' a number of times to be the 'republican voice' on the show. Each time she cohosted, there was negative feedback from the viewers, so the producers would tell her 'it's not the right time...'

First time was when Elisabeth left, and they brought Rachel on to cohost. (Walters didn't like her at all, it was reported). Then it was when Rosie O rejoined in 2014 (I believe it was Rosie who said 'no') and they went with Nicolle Wallace. Then it was when Nicolle left the show - and she still didn't get the job (it seems like everyone else did). And finally, when they were looking for a replacement for Jeb - and they went with Meghan instead. By then, I think Rachel became a permanent cohost on the weekend show for FOX.

Is Alicia still on that Saturday morning show , now that her daddy is incarcerated?

Nicolle Wallace called Josh Hawley “stupid and amnesiac” today”.

Retired, and respected by most, former Senator John Danforth, he of the sexy baritone, stated that supporting Josh Hawley was "the worst mistake I ever made in my life". That's coming from someone in his own party. Probably something as a selective amnesiac he is eager to forget.

Republican spines only grow when they are close to their dirt nap.

I tried to visit the CDC website, there's a banner on the homepage, "CDC’s website is being modified to comply with President Trump’s Executive Orders."

As JD Vance has admonished Americans who deign to complain, "Buckle up."

^^^That we have to live through this madness is disgusting.

I hate having to share a country with ignorant assholes (& the prime ignorant asshole).

Can there be any consolation taken in the fact that he and his administration have gone full psychopath right out of the gate? I'm hopeful collective disgust will spur resistance.

If you ever thought Trump was only kidding, not crazy, he just reiterated in response to the negative tariff reaction, “Therefore, Canada should become our Cherished 51st State".

[quote]Can there be any consolation taken in the fact that he and his administration have gone full psychopath right out of the gate? I'm hopeful collective disgust will spur resistance.

We're only 14 days in and it feels like years already. We've got 1,447 days left.

^^ No we don't. You're assuming we will still have free and fair elections. That era has passed.

We need a huge countdown clock billboard at Times Square, R204.

Those huge, ugly costume jewelry earrings stretching her ear lobes! WTF is wrong with Joy Reid?

Musk has got to go. This is fucking ridiculous.

What the hell is Stephanie wearing ?!?

Rachel, Lawrence, and their guests were quite stressed tonight. I might even say frightened.

[quote] The South finally wins the Civil War on Inauguration day.

Oh honey, the South never lost the Civil War. Not really.

Sure they may have failed in their pursuit of secession, but their ideology lived on. Not only did it live on, but it’s thrived and metastasized and on pace to take over the entire country and looking increasingly unstoppable.

The Communists had the right idea when they purged their enemies. Reactionary elements always come back stronger, smarter, and more cancerous.

Honestly, we’d all be better off today had we let the South secede.

They lost. They made the best of it, but they lost.

Author Sahil Bloom is incredibly sexy, if not boring. Unfortunately, he's straight and married. Oh well...

They lost but they never gave up.

When will Musk be taken out, and by which individual, organization, country, etc...

I'm fine with whomever does it.

[R215] I lit a candle

We'll sacrifice a virgin - if we can find one among our adult neighbors. We may have to settle for cancelling daily neighborhood happy hours as penance.

Trump looking like death warmed over on tv now said, “China is taking advantage of the Biden administration like never before”.

He also reminded everyone that he defeated ISIS.

[quote]He also reminded everyone that he defeated ISIS.

Where's that "Sure Jan" gif when we need it? He does nothing but spew bullshit and lie.

When Nicolle and Andrew look worried and stressed, you know things are bad.

Katy Tur appeared to be concerned today.

I love it when Andew W demeans political idiots with his laughing snark.

Michael Steele is cool, he tells it like it is.

Yeah, I just noticed that, too, R220. Nicolle and David Jolly both looked very stressed just a few minutes ago.

R215, SOMEBODY, ANYBODY, PLEEEASE! Maybe Luigi, if he gets released on a technicality? 🙏🏼

Michael Steele, the former head of the RNC (yeah, a repig, former or not), is a pretentious, preachy, bloviating, blowhard. I can't stand listening to this motherfuckers jive. Elon

And don't kid yourself for one second. If Republicans ever got their shit together (long shot), Steele would be wagging his tail and try to worm his way back into that despicable party.

Michael Steele - all of us, for that matter - should live that long, R226.

Scratch Elon. The microphone on my iPhone is on, and it's picking up the TV in the background.

R226

R227 - What?

R226, you reserve any of your animus for the Berniecrats who sat out the ‘16 general? For the Jill Stein voters? Somehow, I’m doubtful.

Sorry, wrong sentiment about what I feel about Bernie and, R230. Thanks for playing .

Next contestant, please.

Stein

Why, then, do you devote any of your energies fighting those of us who are allies in this existential fight, R230? Fighting old enemies when we've undergone such an extraordinary political realignment?

R220 I noticed the same with Kara and Scott, both uncharacteristically concerned. How long before a judge puts a stay on this rolling open criminality?

[quote]Honestly, we’d all be better off today had we let the South secede.

AMEN

[quote] Honestly, we’d all be better off today had we let the South secede.

And if Trump had won in 2020.

[quote]When Nicolle and Andrew look worried and stressed, you know things are bad.

Well Nicolle, as a lifelong Republican operative and strategist, is responsible for this. So she should be ashamed, in addition to worried and stressed.

I would love to see Dump go after Joe and Mika after kissing his ring. He loves to degrade people and make them beg, then discard them anyway. Remember Mitt Romney? At least we would be rid of traitors to the Democratic party.

Senator Maxwell Frost (D-FL) was just on 'All In' and was very angry with Musk (he said 'we don't know what shit he's creating at the White House'. Turned me on ! I bet he can give great head to another guy.

Musk got Trump the job. It's amazing what money can do for you.

Frost is a freshman Congressman, R239, not a Senator. I don’t he’s even old enough to run for that Office.

R241 I love those chipmunk cheeks on him! He could fill them up with cum easily.

Love Lawrence going to war with Trump's Stupidity.

Stupidity that is deep and profound.

Lawrence was absolutely certain Kamala was gonna win! Anyone remember that???

BECAUSE SHE FUCKING DID!! There are SO many examples of election rigging, hacking, all kinds of interference. There weren't just 70 bomb threats, there were over 200 reported - ALL DEMOCRATIC DISTRICTS.

But nobody believes it's possible because the fucking media isn't covering it!!! And now it's too fucking late!

^The wild conspiracists on the far left & far right (today’s mainstream Republican Party), seem to find common cause.

R241, you're right! He's only 28.

Maxwell Alejandro Frost, born on January 17, 1997, comes from a diverse heritage with roots in Puerto Rican, Lebanese, and Haitian ancestry. Adopted at birth by Patrick Frost, a Kansas-born musician-producer, and his wife Maritza Argibay-Frost, a special education teacher who immigrated to the US from Cuba as a child in the 1960s, Maxwell was joined by his sister, María Elizabeth, three years later.

Frost’s love for music surfaced during elementary school, prompting his father to gift him his first drum set. By the time he reached high school, Frost had become a skilled percussionist and band leader of the award-winning salsa band Seguro Que Sí, based at the Osceola County School for the Arts....

At the ACLU, Frost worked tirelessly as an organizer, advocating for the passage of Amendment Four in Florida, a measure that would reinstate voting rights for former felons and championed abortion rights for Floridians...

R244, I totally agree with you and TRUST, many others believe and the list is growing. The problem is that we need some actual proof and receipts and unfortunately, that hasn’t showed up, as of yet. 😉 (staying positive it will)

To R244 and the "election irregularities" crowd: You had all of the transition period to gather information and start documenting each and every claim with factual evidence. Not a damn thing of any merit was done. If anyone has valid claims of election interference beyond social media conspiracies, share it. Speak up, scream it from the rafters. Yes, Trump is in office, but it isn't too late to tarnish his reputation further, especially if malpractice is uncovered. He's fucking up daily and a real scandal might snap a couple of cult members out of their trance, which would be a good thing.

I know that some might have been surprised by the country electing a hateful bastard whose platform was hate and retribution, but they did. Despite the warnings, they pretty much told non-Trump voters, "Fuck you, I want this." So his presidency is a self-inflicted wound. There are consequences for stupidity and it is on display every day. We didn't do it or approve it, but we have to live with the decision they made for us.

R247 Because they systematically started destroying the evidence once January 21st arrived. It was there!

The circumstantial evidence still exists, but the proof in the pudding has been digested.

R248 There IS lots of info....I've been posting links for 2 months. Start here:

Here's another good one.

And yet another....scroll down to a lot of the November postings. Reputable articles by reputable sources that have been gaining no traction. Lots of complaint filed to voicemails that are filled to capacity.

Like in 2020, no election “irregularities” materially affected the 2024 race. I had a strong sense that the historically-underpolled Trump would win when his swing state pre-election poll numbers were better than they had ever been in the two preceding elections.

Historically under-polled? What if just the opposite is true? What if, all this time, the polls actually were correct, and it was the voting machine tallies that were wrong? Because the mechanisms were corrupted?

Why would so many rather believe that people lied to the exit pollsters about who they voted for, than believe that perhaps the votes were (deliberately) miscounted?

Although there could have been recounts, there weren't.

Many reports of witnessing actually seeing their votes being switched before exiting the booths were ignored? But interesting how it was mostly Democratic voters who reported?

How come the polls have almost always been wrong in favor of the Republicans, more and more, ever since 2000 when computer tabulated voting machines were established?

How come whenever a Democrat proposes a law to audit machines, and really improve our voting systems, Republicans always vote it down??

Just asking questions.

[quote] Well Nicolle, as a lifelong Republican operative and strategist, is responsible for this.

Trump was and is not a Republican, he took over the party and the support of most of its rank-and-file members. Wallace hasn't been a Republican since. And she's done more to actively report on the dangers of Trump, and a Trump presidency than any lifelong Democrat. It's stupid people who are responsible for this. A lot of stupid people. The failure is in underestimating the number of stupid people and what they want to hear.

This morning's guest Casey Burgat (author) : I'd love to orally help him drain out his morning wood.

NY Times Columnist Sadiba Hasan is a guest, pushing her article "A Call For Millennial Complaints..." She's about as interesting as watching grass grow. Who is booking these idiots on the show these days ? The poor cohosts have to feign interest in her talking about her avocado toast (or something - not paying that much attention to her).

So interesting how the trolls have morphed into propaganda critics and blame liberal MSM for our problems.

And not a peep about the megalithic Murdoch Noise and Lie machine?

[Quote] The problem is that we need some actual proof and receipts and unfortunately, that hasn’t showed up, as of yet.

That’s the tricky part about believing something without evidence.

I have always adored Richard Steinmetz

Love how Chris Matthews pushed Mika aside and took control of the panel discussion this morning.

We miss you, Chris!

[quote] Historically under-polled? What if just the opposite is true? What if, all this time, the polls actually were correct, and it was the voting machine tallies that were wrong? Because the mechanisms were corrupted?

Oy vey.

I wish they would give Michael Steele one of Chris Jansing's hours.

I was just thinking that, R263. We need a bad ass on the early afternoon shift.

[R261] oops wrong thread

Please. No big smiles and/or on-screen laughter today; your viewers are in shock and close to the edge.

John Heilemann looks stricken. Understandably.

Will he be taking Andrea Mitchell's place?

[quote] Casey Burgat (author) : I'd love to orally help him drain out his morning wood.

Bladder first, epididymis to follow.

[quote]John Heilemann looks stricken. Understandably.

I noticed that, I think it's because he's not wearing his glasses. The baled head, no beard, plane features is kind of a blank canvas. I never realized it before, always noticed he would sport various unique frames from his eye ware wardrobe. Now I know why. They really make or break his look.

The usual “flirtation” between John & Nicolle is gone in these grave times.

R270 For awhile he was clearly pursuing a Hunter S. Thompson look. Minus the empty cigarette holder.

I need to see more of Brendan Ballou.

"Not all super heroes wear a cape."

Are they going to pay tribute to Andrea Mitchell tomorrow? I think I heard her say she will still do work in the field sometimes. That was always her best game.

Stephanie Ruhl is an attractive woman. Remember when she used to share a morning show with Ali Velshi? That seems so long ago.

Reading a new bio on Reagan & am reminded that Jerry Ford’s proposed co-presidency in ‘80 included having Kissinger back at State & Andrea’s husband, Alan Greenspan named Treasury Secretary.

[quote] John Heilemann looks stricken. Understandably.

Yes, maybe not the lack of glasses that is so strikingly stricken. Seems he must have arrived too late to sit for make-up. First time I've seen him like that. Adds years.

But oh my, those toothpick calves.

I can't believe he's only 59. I would guess JH to be a good 6 - 7 years older than that.

Something Sexy about John Heilemann.

Chris Hayes will be interviewed by Bill Maher tonight on Real Time.

[quote] But oh my, those toothpick calves.

calves and thighs

Spaghetti legs John Heilemann...

Yasmin is back!!!

Most men over 50 are eggs with legs. Heilemann is no different. In fact at least he's not as portly as most men his age.

Hardly, those legs would look spindley on an anorexic.

Where are you seeing JH's legs?

Thank you for letting me host an afternoon show!

I wasn't watching, did Trump get booed at the Super Bowl?

Not sure, R289 (much as I was hoping he would be). Heard Taylor Swift was, though.

Of course not. Those are his people. They’re all rich.

Unfortunately, R291, he has a lot of non-rich supporters, too.

He plays golf with Tiger Woods, then attends the Super Bowl, while many thousands are either suddenly out of work, or cut off from much-needed aid. Is there a bigger evil piece of shit?

"That halftime show was very unfair! The Arts is broken and only I can fix it!"

MARY HARTMAN! MARY HARTMAN!

Joy's sweater looks nice and warm. Good color, too.

Christine Romans left CNN for NBC in July 2023. How is it today's the first I've seen of her on MSNBC, with Velshi? Are there shows she appears on regularly?

Jen, honey, the jacket is wonderful except for the shoulder pads, they're too big for you.

Jen Psaki is one smart woman. Impressive.

Joe Biden exalted Jen, rightfully so.

Jasmine Crockett is into Fendi. Why not, it's a good brand.

Are plane-related deaths going to be MSNBC's response to Fox's immigrant crime?

[quote]Are plane-related deaths going to be MSNBC's response to Fox's immigrant crime?

What does one have to do with the other, r302? They're exaggerating the immigrant crime numbers and the plane-related deaths since Jan, 20th are factual.

The plane-related deaths may be factual, but blaming them on anything Trump has done or failed to do is highly speculative. I agree that MSNBC is exploiting them at this point.

R303, in this era, I believe we have to fight fire with fire. If Fox under Trump was going to lead with every immigrant-related crime, it's understandable that MSNBC would highlight every plane-related death.

MSNBC has the timeline on its side, r304. There hadn't been a commercial airline crash in 16 years. Again, FOX lies about the amount of immigrant crime. But if you want to keep bothsiding, go ahead.

I disagree. We shouldn’t want to be defined by “anything that hurts MAGA is good” because that makes us just like them.

We should stand FOR something.

Like truth and reason.

[quote] We should stand FOR something.

[quote] Like truth and reason.

Maybe not.

[quote] We should stand FOR something.

[quote] Like truth and reason.

Reminds me of the Adlai Stevenson chestnut. Someone heard Stevenson’s impressive speech and said, “Every thinking person in America will be voting for you.” Stevenson replied, “I’m afraid that won’t do—I need a majority.”

I stand for my country, the Constitution and democracy - by any means necessary.

Elon Musk can’t communicate.

Just a troll on a keyboard like his Daddy.

That child should be in school.

Please create a thread for this so-called Oval Office press conference. Oh, it's ending.

What a shit show. I have no words. The world is watching this embarrassing display. Elon stands wearing overcoat and black MAGA cap, tRumpt sits at the desk, while the kid picks his nose.

Oy.

Can’t Elon afford adequate child care?

[quote]Can’t Elon afford adequate child care?

Oh, tRump is okay if left home alone for brief periods, R314.

What a tableau!

Hoping for a loop hole that will get Luigi Mangione release. We have another rich person, actually the richest person in the world, for him to pay a surprise visit to.

He'd just use the kid as human shield, R317. You honestly think he cares about it?

Is that the one named X1J2-49G, or some such nonsense?

As dangerous as he is, Elon is coming off to the public like a demented clown. I'm at least as concerned by his PayPal mafia bro, Peter Thiel. He's equally crazy, but stays low and works through his puppet proxies. He owns JD Vance. Even if Trump has one too many Diet Cokes, and finally succumbs to a massive stroke, his replacement will likely be as insidiously bad. Trump is ultimately a pussy, Vance will test the limits and not back off even if there's MAGA disapproval.

Joy Reid has really peed in Amy Klobaucher's cereal tonight. Amy is all wound up and angry at Joy "Cheers" Reid.

Has Leigh Ann Caldwell been rummaging through Joy Ann Reid's wig drawer?

Are you on the toilet again?

What do you mean, R320? What happened?

Can’t believe you morons are still watching this network. You’ve learned nothing.

I don’t take program recommendations from Trumptards.

I confess that I still can't bring myself to watch MSNBC since the election. I've just started reading the NY Times again, but it's so depressing that I usually can't finish the articles about what tRump and his minions are doing. I feel like I'm going through the seven stages of grief!

I am curious about one thing, though. Joy Reid and a few others on MSNBC were SO adamant that not picking Kamala would be a national disgrace and perhaps even racist after Biden agreed not to run again. Has anyone on MSNBC changed their minds about that? Or is all Joe's fault that she lost?

[quote] The plane-related deaths may be factual, but blaming them on anything Trump has done or failed to do is highly speculative. I agree that MSNBC is exploiting them at this point.

Nice thought, but the majority of voters in this country are completely hostile to facts that they elected a felonious lying fatty orange rapist with the cognitive capacity of a gnat to the highest office in the land PRECISELY BECAUSE they did not like facts. Facts are the enemy to their dopamine hit

Had Harris won and those plane accidents had occurred under her watch, Cheeto would be repeating baseless accusations and Fox would have an hour long nightly report on "HARRIS CRASHES"

We need to make him own EVERY shitty thing that happens under his watch, facts be damned, because they are in this climate and anyone who adheres to facts LOSES

Two hours of Chris Jansing is a lot.

Chris Jansing loves DUMP.

WTF is she wearing??!! To say nothing of it clashing with her backdrop.

Rachel, please take Joy Ann wardrobe-shopping. TIA.

Rachel? Wardrobe shopping?

Rach at 30 Rock.

MSNBC’s Rebecca Kutler Takes Over as President:

Can she fire Joe and Mika?

She looks like she up-talks and ends every sentence with surprise in her voice to keep the listener's attention.

I don’t want to hear extreme democrat news just like I don’t want to hear extreme republican news!

Bothsiders promote Trumpism and are enabling fascism.

[quote] ‘Morning Joe’ Applauds Elon Musk for ‘Extraordinarily Important’ Press Conference With Trump

“Morning Joe” co-host Joe Scarborough gave kudos to Elon Musk on Wednesday, saying it was “good” the head of the Department of Government Efficiency spoke to reporters alongside President Donald Trump the day before.

“Elon Musk getting before reporters, I actually think, as much as possible — since his people are running through these government agencies — I think that is extraordinarily important,” Scarborough said.

The X owner and his DOGE team have been on a cost-cutting spree aimed at a number of government agencies in recent weeks. Musk said he is aiming to cut $1–$2 trillion in annual spending — a goal that represents up to 30% of what the government shelled out in 2024. To reach that goal, he has enlisted a small team of young engineers within DOGE, the new department President Trump put him in charge of.

Among the federal contracts being slashed by DOGE is the $8.2 million Politico has been paid for government subscriptions.

Scarborough on Wednesday said his “chief complaint” with DOGE had been the “lack of transparency” around it. But Musk answering questions from reporters inside the Oval Office earned praise from the veteran MSNBC anchor.

“I do think it’s good Elon Musk went before reporters and answered questions,” he said.

Although, not everyone on “Morning Joe” agreed.

“What happened yesterday was not transparency,” MSNBC analyst John Heilemann argued. “Elon Musk just taking questions from reporters — I’m for it, I’m for it. But that’s not a metric of transparency.”

Heilemann then said Musk made “dozens of totally unsupported claims to justify what he’s doing” and that it looked like he was “filibustering and making stuff up.”

Musk on Tuesday said the “high-level goal” of DOGE was to “restore democracy.” He told reporters — with his son X Æ A-Xii and President Trump nearby — that DOGE’s recent cuts to the federal bureaucracy were critical towards achieving this goal. Musk added the Trump Administration had a mandate from the people to trim the federal government, following his win in the 2024 election.

“If the people cannot vote and have their will be decided by their elected representatives — in the form of the president and the Senate and the House — then we don’t live in a democracy, we live in a bureaucracy,” he noted.

The Tuesday press conference, beyond what Trump and Musk had to say, gained attention because the Associated Press was barred from entering the Oval Office; AP Executive Editor Julie Pace said it was because the outlet had not started calling the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America, after President Trump recently signed an executive order changing the gulf’s official government name.

Legal consultant Lisa Rubin needs a Marcel Wave in her hair. So does Joy Reid.

I think Lisa looked especially exquisite tonight. Late dinner at the Waldorf?

Can President Must run for office after this? Since he's not official elected, wont be surprised if this is next. Since laws do not matter, why should he be prohibited from doing so just because he was not born in the US? That's what MAGA wants and guess what, the Republican controlled Congress will green light this no matter what the Constitution says.

I don't - & will never - get Trump's appeal, but, whatever appeal Trump has, Musk definitely lacks. Just note his low approval ratings.

The appeal is an F-U middle finger to everyone else. THAT is what brings MAGA to orgasm. Not the character or policies of either men. In fact Elon literally said F-U on stage, on cam to his former ad clients who left Twitter.

Kathy Hochul has teeth like a horse.

I've seen horses with smaller teeth.

Kathy's teeth make Ultra Bright look yellow.

R342, Trump is a con man with a huge Murdoch propaganda/marketing/analytics conglomerate running interference for him, that sugar coats and diverts attention from from the enormous lies of a very mentally ill man.

Heilman looks lots better with a little color. Ghoulina Jong-Fast should take a hint.

Doomsday Scenario by Garrett Graff....

"The Weekend" guest Angelo Carusone is incredibly sext at 8 am. Just when I get rid of 'morning wood' he's on TV propping it back up. Thanks Angelo !

Yes, Angelo is adorable. And smart.

OMG - what a great speech he gave at 8:20 am about Dems needing to visit children's hospitals and farms which Trump is shutting down ! He's right - don't waste time visiting a 'locked building' for the cameras; be seen at the hospitals on the verge of closing down at any time, be seen with the farmers who are going to lose their farms once the funding is cut. Carusone is right. (He is so sexy when he's angry - I want him to 'angry fuck' me).

And Joe Walsh has always been one of my crushes on TV.

MSNBC needs to give George Conway his own show - either weekends (get rid of Alshi) or evennings (get rid of Ari). This guy is smart, and entertaining. Listen to what he says at 9:18 this morning (he explains the Trump Presidency as a four-stage cancer).

[quote]either weekends (get rid of Alshi) or evennings (get rid of Ari).

Get rid of Chris Hayes too.

Conway and Steele need to get a show.

And how come nobody told me that The Weekend went to three hours?

Anything to get rid of the Weekend Scarborough Recap of Failures...

R355, same here! I had no idea they had gone to three hours until they mentioned it this morning.

This was the first day they went to three hours. Not sure if it's permanent or not. I believe they just marked the one year anniversary for the show's debut, so maybe the ratings are good enough to try out a three hour block ?

I still don't trust George Conway. Yes he's smart and maybe a decent tv personality, but I think he's a Grifter. Before he became a Never Trumper, he was a member of the Federalist Society and had a lot to do with the choosing of our current corrupt members of the Supreme Court.

I wish somebody would interview him about his history with the FS and ask if he has any regrets. Then I might start to feel better about him.

Also, NEVER is it mentioned who his ex-wife is, (are they legally divorced, by the way?). Talk about a fucking elephant in the room.

Conway has a weekly podcast with the Bulwark (along with Sarah Longwell).

Does The Weekend now run from 8a to 11a? Does that mean they got rid of an hour of Velshi?

[quote]Also, NEVER is it mentioned who his ex-wife is, (are they legally divorced, by the way?). Talk about a fucking elephant in the room.

What's to mention ? She's totally irrelevant at this stage of the game. Not even Trump mentions her - she's last week's mashed potatoes, with remnants in the garbage disposal.

r360, They took the second hour from the MJ Crap Fest Weekly Recap.

The MJ CFWR is now one hour.

The Weekend is now three hours, from 4am to 7am.

R361 She's now making bank as a ratty-haired lobbyist. Also infrequently mentioned, that Conway was former BFF's with Ann Coulter, represented Paula Jones, and had a Laura Ingraham crush.

But I trust Conway today, he's been virulently and vocally anti-Trump for many years, and a disparager of all things MAGA, including the spineless Repugs (all of them). And produced his own anti-Trump ads comparing him to a disease.

R361 here. The only thing that might make me mistrust George Conway less is his closeness with his daughter Claudia. She attended the Democratic Convention and was a staunch Kamala supporter.

But if at some point, MSNBC replaces Joe and Mika with George and Kellyanne, or he's paired with his ex on some other network, remember you saw it here first!

It would be awkward to make a show with DIVORCED George and Smelly Anne. Joe and Mika are still married. Nauseating as it is, no one wants to see a couple hate each other pretending to be nice while deliver the news opinion. Not catty enough to be campy, not news worthy to be actual news.

[quote] you saw it here first!

No worries. it'll never happen.

She exhibits the decorum of swine.

OT barely but I rewatched the SNL that aired right before the election. In hindsight, during her cameo you can see it in her face that she knew she wasn't going to win. She looks like she wants to break down right on the spot and tell Maya Rudolph she was going to be disappointed that coming Tuesday.

Sucker punched. Two hours of MJ Weekend today.

Pluto: Anthony Bourdain: No Reservations: Food Porn 2

The Weekend is turning into the best show on MSNBC.

I think Ali Vitali is a very good journalist.

Like she has a face for print?

Ali Vitali has a voice made for print journalism.

Nicolle is having a therapy session now.

You would be too, R374, after having let Joy Reid choose your dress minutes before you went on the air.

Mary Hartman! Mary Hartman! Hosts an MSNBC show

I am done with Ari Melber. He had fucking James Carville on AGAIN. Now it time to change the channel as I have no desire to watch Joy Reid with Al Sharpton.

R377, It wouldn’t have bothered me before Carville called Kamala “a seventh string quarterback,” now I’m done with him. Ari has been increasingly on my shit list for blindly following Bill Maher despite his rightward shift. .

Garrett Haake says nukular.

Ari Melber has DEFINITELY been dipping into the paintbox again. Veering into Wayne Newton territory.

I always listen intently to Sue Gordon when she is on with Nichole, she knows her shit.

Awww, how sweet.

This prosecutor "had his hair done" to appear on Ari's show.

Rep. Jasmine Crockett is beautiful as well as brilliant; however, she is slowly drifting into the Joy Reid/Symone Sanders "tacky" lane, wearing gaudy costume jewelry and those awful, press-on Fu Manchu fingernails.

Clown garb distracts from your message, and few will take you seriously. Do better, Jasmine.

R383 Agree 100%. She has so much to offer, but distracts from what she's saying (same as Sanders).

I just gave Lawrence a round of applause for saying that "Trump is the most uncouth president in history."

[quote]Ari Melber has DEFINITELY been dipping into the paintbox again.

Funny you said that, I kept thinking someone was off with the color settings on my very pricey OLED TV which is supposed to have amazing color accuracy. I was digging through the settings to tone it all down.

Maddow, as usual, was excellent Tuesday night. A great mix of info, humor, and seriousness to get the news across. She's really explaining what is going on each night in a 'less boring' and 'less technical' way than other reporters.

Maddow time.

The control room seems to be out of control tonight:

Weird screaming sound effect coming out of nowhere. Coming back from break without the "Swoosh" graphic and just going to Rachel already talking.

Is Rachel going to get bleeped next?

What in the world was that scream tonight ? Someone said it was Melania running away from Eric Trump.

MSNBC isn't afraid to call shit out.

Re: MSNBC sound effects -- Might the Musketeens be playing behind-the-screen games?

[quote] Maddow, as usual, was excellent Tuesday night. A great mix of info, humor

I loved her line when describing Youngkin, "If you were looking for the vertebrates, that exhibit is around the corner."

Maddow's dry wit has moved in the direction of...stinging...

Willie has been MIA…

Author Marc Dunkelman - who apparently works at Brown University (in my city!) is incredibly sexy. I wanted to rip that suit and tie off of him and see what he's hiding underneath. Can I spend a night with him ? I bet he's an animal in bed.

"Mike Schmidt, who is also my husband, for the purposes of this segment and otherwise"

I believe today's the first time I've heard Nicolle introduce him as such. She might have mentioned it back when she was returning from maternity leave.

It was cute.

[quote] Maddow's dry wit has moved in the direction of...stinging...

She's openly derisive and belittles them with every glance.

And I am HERE for it.

Not the first time, R397.

She probably mentioned the relationship so as to be transparent while promoting another network's broadcast on her show. I recall her introducing him as spouse once before.

Interesting to see how Mike Schmidt deals with Nicolle's maddening bouts of laughter. While the other two guests joined in and encouraged her hilarity, a straight-faced Mike Schmidt was engrossed in his phone, apparently having tuned-out his ridiculous wife - a well-practiced move.

Just took note of how frequently Rachel laughs during her typical program. Which is quite frequent. I'm here for it, as well as for her sharp wit and pointed sense of humor.

Though not as driven by wit, I also enjoy and appreciate Nicolle's laughter. As informative as her program is, it also often gives me the feels, owing largely to her engaging demeanor.

It's so nice to have a choice in these matters.

Great show tonight, Rachel! Keep up the good work.

Rachel is hammering Trump on his NUMBERS/

Trump's numbers are bad.

Very, very bad numbers.

Second month in.

Trump's numbers are bad.

My one occasional problem with Rachel was her snark. I have no problem with it now!

I like that Rachel keeps an upbeat humor with a truth and sting to it instead of the bitter rants so many Dems get criticized for. Sometimes humor breaks through truths that everyone sees but may not verbalize. Even to those resistant to a normal debate on an issue. It's effective messaging.

[quote] Rachel is hammering Trump on his NUMBERS/

Trump's numbers are bad.

Very, very bad numbers.

Second month in.

Trump's numbers are bad.

Rachel needs to visit The View soon so she could inform that horse face Trump has high poll numbers annoying bitch Alyssa.

Too late for that, Trump or Muskrat has already said publicly they want to get the View off the air. With some form of insult I cant remember at the moment.

ABC News is putting up same day episodes of TV on YT.

They have The Weekend View on the internet and those behind The Table also online.

Because Trump is threatening ANC with their Broadcast license, I get the impression that ABC might move the entire View franchise ONLINE.

^^^ABC

Tuned in this morning and it was a good show.Very informative-Joe didn’t bull shit too much and best of a that Mika was not there! She has to go if they want to keep viewers. Spoiled controlling bitch treats that program and it’s guests like it’s her very own play-pen and these are serious times.KEEP THAT SICK SORORITY SACK OFF THE SET!

Jeff Mason has orange stains on his necktie; guy seems to go out of his way defending all the insanity this president farts out.

Jeff Mason is gay.

Well Trump just declared MSNBC was an "enemy/threat to democracy" and "no one watches CNN any more" because their ratings are low at a rambling CPAC press conference. I caught a couple of minutes of it and as expected, he's stating all the "great" things he's done now. BBC aired it live, so I changed the channel. Neither CNN nor MSNBC aired the bullshit, only his media mouthpiece Fox News, as expected.

NYC hotels should drop Fox from their cable television packages, giving their guests a true vacation from cult propaganda this summer.

[Quote] frequent. I'm here for it, as well as for her sharp wit and pointed sense of humor

I see you want comedy entertainment instead of news

caught a moment of CPAC-Stephen the Nazi was ranting like Hitler-a Jewish Hitler.

R416 She's a political commentator, not a news reporter. Yes, I like some comedy entertainment mixed in from time to time by a political commentator.

R418 try the Daily Show

R419 I have - never really enjoyed it.

As I said, 'I like some comedy entertainment mixed in from time to time by a political commentator'. Maddow knows how to deliver that balance. I find that Bill Maher also knows how to have that balance with his panel discussions each week on 'Real Time'.

[quote] I see you want comedy entertainment instead of news

Oh, but the most true of words are spoken in jest.

[quote]Yes, I like some comedy entertainment mixed in from time to time by a political commentator.

Ayman has a comedian, Jason Selvig, on his political panel tonight. Actually, he has two as Dean Obeidallah is also a part-time comedian.

And speaking of Dean, would love to know if he’s gay or straight. Have never found much personal info about him online.

R422 - I did a Google search for "Dean Obeidallah wife" and actress Hend Ayoub was popping up as a long time girlfriend - although the most recent thing I found was from two years ago.

Drink every time Joe says balance the budget.

MSNBC shake-up in the evening coming. Joy Reid apparently out at the end of the week. The "Weekend" crew moving into the 7pm slot - will also cover Chris Hayes 8pm slot on Monday. Alex Wagner will remain in the field with Jen Psaki taking over 9pm when Maddow returns to her former schedule.

OOPS, wrong link.

Per the NYT, Joy’s show has been cancelled by the new head of MSNBC and will be replaced by the “Weekend” crew. THIS IS UTTER BULLSHIT. Why not cancel Ari Melber’s crap rap hour instead? Most of the time he doesn’t even act like he wants to talk about politics. He’d much rather spend his time turning serious news into ludicrous rap discussions instead. I have nothing against him but he’s the one who should go, not Joy, but then he doesn’t go after Trump anywhere near like Joy does, so perhaps that was the motivation.

Oh, and Alex Wagner is losing her hour to Jen Psaki.

Joy is a surprise…knew Alex Wagner wasn’t getting that 9pm slot back.

The Weekend Crew are excellent & put on a great show.

Jen Psaki is their golden girl…Chris Hayes & Ari Melber might want to get in that studio…

MSNBC is getting itself in the position to be spun off.

Joy and Chris are the shrillest voices on a solo show. But Chris is white,

Pure DEI decision on the part of the New MSNBC.

At least Joy won't be displaying her disdain for Buttigieg if he runs

And Chris Matthews rejoices.

R431 while doing shots at Le Parc Bistro in Philly. The King of over achieving. Such a douche bag.

Joy’s tired, old race-baiting shtick is not what people want to hear anymore.

A panel show with several hosts is a better fit for 7pm anyway.

Chris Hayes should be the next to go.

[quote] MSNBC is also looking beyond the network’s existing roster of anchors to fill out its programming lineup. MSNBC is considering on-air host positions for Eugene Daniels, a co-author of Politico’s influential Playbook newsletter, and Melissa Murray, a professor at the New York University School of Law, roles that would supplement their current jobs, said the other person familiar with the changes.

NYT

I’d rather listen to Joy than either of those two. They rarely gave anything insightful to say.

Symone!!!!!!!!

I wish they would have the Weekend crew (Michael, Symone and Alicia) replace Joe and Mika in the mornings instead of replacing Joy at 7 p.m.

Also, I like Nicolle Wallace, but it seems foolish to have Nicolle continue anchoring for two hours solo every day while the trio of Michael, Symone, and Alicia have to share anchoring duties for just one hour.

This sounds great. Good riddance to Joy, Alex and everyone else who needs to go. The Weekend at 7 pm weeknights is a smart decision.

Agree it should have been Ari.

[Quote] Trump tipped his hand when he said that the Civil Wart could have been avoided if Slave Owners were paid for their freed slaves.

Trump is a moron who knows nothing about history. Of course.

The civil war was started by the south because they didn’t like the fact that an anti-slavery moderate was elected president. Lincoln took no action to free the slaves that brought that on. In fact he said he would not take any action to take slaves away from people who “owned” them.

Ironically the slave states themselves brought on exactly what they feared by attempting to destroy the United States.

But the wiggers LOVE Ari, r440.

It makes them feel so NOT RACIST.

I bet you ABC is keeping their eye on these developments. If they see MSNBC getting rid of Reid and her 'race baiting', ABC just may give Sunny Hostin her walking papers, too, if she doesn't reign it in.

Interesting and very telling how Joy Reid gets canceled but not the top two Trump ass kissing shows, Morning Joe and Katy Turd. We see you MSNBC.

R444 One of the articles I read also says that Reid's ratings have dropped nearly 30% since Election Day. Ratings = $$$. If 'Morning Joe' and 'Katy Tur' have shows which lost nearly 30% of their viewers in the past four months, I'm betting the new head of MSNBC would give them the axe, too. She was hired to 'clean house' and get rid of any money-losers, and it seems that's exactly what she's doing. And she's starting with the prime time talent, which is the right step to take.

Bitch stole my act. . . .

They should get rid of Al Sharpton too.

If it were up to me, I would give Ari's show to Elie Mystal. He's my favorite!

[And she's starting with the prime time talent, which is the right step to take.]

Prime time television begins at 8:00 pm.

[quote] MSNBC is considering on-air host positions for Eugene Daniels

What? His mouth moves, he repeats things he's heard, he says absolutely nothing of significance. They're going to fill an hour with that? Along with his feelings?

Glad that Jen will be getting a more regular time slot. But I already miss Alex. Yes, the line-up is already too much of the same and needs a shake-up. The panel show is a good idea, possibly made even better by rotating hosts.

R449 Not on cable news. It starts at 7 pm. At least that's what was said when Laura Ingraham was bounced from 10 pm to 7 pm on FOX. They said she was still in prime time, so it was not a demotion.

Well, Eugene is the chair of the WH Correspondents ASSC.

Symone only repeats talking points and has a sad and limited vocabulary along with the ghetto talk that is off putting to very accomplished guests. Anyone who knows of her knows these facts and now it’s every week day-OMG

R452 Yes, the only explanation I can come up with is that he's an accomplished writer, because his on-air performances are seriously lackluster.

Unlike MJ Weekend, TRMS weekend is worth the second viewing.

R453 is not lying.

Lord help us. I can’t take a weekday dose of Eugene Daniel’s’ fucked up bama ass sense of fashion.

For those of us who are fans of Joy, I hope she does like Jim Acosta, formerly of CNN, and produces her own show on Substack.

I've watched a couple of Acosta's shows, and it's obvious now he was somewhat limited in what he could report while on CNN. Reid could be unfiltered and it would be more like her weekend show which was far better than her weeknight. She was able to slip a lot of guests in the Prime Time producers didn't approve of, (like Sarah Kendzior, Malcolm Nance). Malcolm hasn't been on MSNBC in almost two years, but I bet he would support and appear on Joy's show if she were doing it elsewhere.

Melissa Murray is a law professor at an elite law school. Odd she’d give that up to be a TV host.

There's this

Melissa is a law professor with tenure?

Sabatical?

Here's former MSNBC host Keith Olbermann weighing in on the Joy Reid firing - and other issues he has with the network and its hosts.

It starts around the 22:00 mark, and he goes on for about a half hour.

DataLounge will hate any black female host on MSNBC, will criticize their appearance, and will complain that they talk about race too much.

And they cackle...

if MSNBC were still committed to amplifying progressive voices and actual FACTUAL reporting, they would give Elie Mistal an hour in prime time. His energy and outrage match the base in this moment AND he is intelligent and able to be both passionate and clear at the same time.

Joy's prime time show got dragged down by a lack of focus. I like her and think she is a bright woman, but I do think she would be a stronger voice in the podcast space.

This does look more like an offload strategy though.

OMG 😳

I like Symone. I really do, but if she’s going to be on every weekday, then she really needs to work on how she communicates. The constant interruptions and the verbal stumbling is just too much.

Jen Psaki in Maddow’s time slot is a hard pass.

They should have Jonathan Capehart and Eugene Daniels pair up for a weekend show called "Men on Film". They can review films together and give it 'Two snaps up !' or 'Hated it!' . (Now wasn't there a show like that years ago?}

Elie Mistal? NO THANKS! He has a face and hair for radio not my 64" flat screen TV.

[quote]I like Symone. I really do, but if she’s going to be on every weekday, then she really needs to work on how she communicates. The constant interruptions and the verbal stumbling is just too much.

It’s shocking that she was once “Chief Spokesperson” for the Vice President.

I like Symone, I can live with the larger than life jewelry, but those Wolverine nails got to go. Just not professional. Same reason you never see people on there with full face tattoos or big 2 inch stretched out ear holes.

Symone needs to lose the talons, lose the eyelashes, and get a Wegovy prescription.

[quote]Same reason you never see people on there with full face tattoos or big 2 inch stretched out ear holes.

Yet. We don't see this yet. Give it time...

They did Joy wrong.

Where is Rachel & crew calling this out?

Joy is proving them wrong on her last show

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥👠👠👠🥄🥄🥄

I only caught her opening minutes, is she talking about it at all?

Lawrence is going on Joy tonight.

I love Joy and will miss seeing her every night. I hope she moves on to something bigger and better.

Feel bad for Joy.

Why is Joy Ann all decked-out in MSNBC merch?

It’s ReidOut merch.

They need to get rid of Jen Psaki next, and soon !

I like Joy. The hip hop enthusiast and overexcited , swollen dork that host the shows bookending her show are another story.

I'd like Katty Kay to get a show. She can bring her podcast partner with her.

Jeffries! Jeffries! Jeffries!

Wimpy! Wimpy! Wimpy!

Rachel's reading the riot act to MSNBC PTB

DAAAAAMMMNNN, Rachel!

Good for Rachel. Well done.

Rachel just gave Comcast the side-eye left handed burn for the way they got rid of their minority female newscasters: Alex, Joy and Katie. She pissed on Comcast. It was solid and respectful and she pissed on them.

I wish she would've alluded to Scarborough and Mika keeping their jobs while Joy is shown the door.

Maddow and Scarborough have a long-standing mutual dislike of each other.

RACHEL owned it!!!

Gonna miss her 5 days a week….

Alex Wagner is a minority ?

Good on you, Rachel, and I suspect Lawrence won't be pulling his punches later tonight.

Karine Jean-Pierre deserves a seat behind the big desk; give her a shot.

Rachel will still be doing the first 100 days.

I am SO fucking SICK of these MSNBC ass licking CMO (whatever the fuck that is; yes, I Googled it but every result was an insider-y "article").

With all those billionaire CEOs who collectively have blown the gotdamn world up getting their 90-second self-serving touchy feely bullshit about Vision, or Togetherness, or Stewardship, or Love, disingeously trying to make us believe 1) we know who the fuck they are and why we should care; and 2) they reallyreallyreallyreally are doing what's good and right for the world and why they've decided for us what is good for us.

Billionaire navel-gazing in 2025 when the world is exploding is so fucking tone-deaf I can hardly believe it isn't parody.

Rachel did a great speech. However, if she wanted to be totally truthful with what's going on behind the shake-up at MSNBC, she would have disclosed the ratings fall for 'The Reid Out' and 'Alex Wagner'. Joy's show has shed nearly a third of her audience since November. What was the benefit of keeping her on ? And I appreciate Maddow pointing out that they got rid of their two minority hosts in prime time, but why not tell her viewers that three minority hosts will be filling Reid's spot when the new schedule premieres on April 1 ?

Joy is so pissed she got herself hired on Fox & Friends.

Sorry-this is all small potato's set against what Trump admin has in mind and no one video or news story could ever cover all of it. We’re laughing all the way to the gas chambers.

[quote] Alex Wagner is a minority ?

Her Mom is Burmese.

Elon's two left feet.

From a business viewpoint, what MSNBC is doing is ludicrous. Whatever happened to their business model? Of course ratings are way down since the election! People are fucking depressed! They don't want to watch the news at all!

Does MSNBC think they'll get viewers by getting rid of their minorities? Just the opposite. People are gonna come out of their stupor and be fucking angry as hell! If anything, they should go in the opposite direction. Keep Joy, Katie hang, Alex Wagner, definitely get rid of Morning Joe. Viewers feel betrayed by him. Bring on MORE progressives! The difference between Fox and MSNBC has never been equal on both sides. An extremely false equivalent. FOX lies!!!! They've always gone extreme.

MSNBC should go extreme in the other direction, but still tell the truth. There are so many stories that are not being given adequate coverage. Like how come no network has covered the Russian Spy admitting Trump has been an asset to Russia since the 80s?

Had it turned out that Biden or Hillary had been the asset, Fox would be giving it 24-hr coverage. They'd make it the top story on every show.

THAT'S what MSNBC needs to do if it wants to stay in business. They're just cutting off their life support now!

And it's Katie Phang. Sorry about the P.

R501, 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

Joe & Willie didn’t say anything about Joy 👀

[quote]Of course ratings are way down since the election! People are fucking depressed! They don't want to watch the news at all!

Ratings are 'way down' for certain shows - such as 'The Reid Out' and 'Alex Wagner' -but not all. Other shows, such as 'The Weekend' and 'Rachel Maddow : Trump's First 100 Days' have seen their ratings skyrocket over the predecessor they took over. It would be ludicrous to bring in a new boss and for her not to address this problem immediately.

Again, if Maddow was 100% honest with her viewers she would've told them these ratings facts - ratings is a key factor on what drives any network and its programming decision. Maddow did a a big dis-service trying to bring 'the race card' into the decision instead. (And again - she doesn't mention the three cohosts taking over Reid's show are three minorities, and doesn't mention the that the first host named as taking over their 'Weekend' morning show is a minority. Maddow could've been more honest.

The race issue is over for now. Put it away and focus on other things. It doesn’t help fight Trump and just make Dems look clueless. The right doesn’t care about racism and it’s just Dems attacking other Dems now. A true lose/lose. I feel the same about most Me too and trans issues for the time being.

The last ratings chart I saw showed Chris Hayes just a notch above Joy with also less than a million viewers. If that is the case, why is he also not on the chopping block?

Why was Morning Joe left of that ratings list? Those two need to go. Maybe keep the show if they really care about ratings.

I feel like all these changes are just moving chairs around the deck of the Titanic when the real ice bergs that tore a hole in the ship are Mika and Joe.

When ever Chris Hayes program comes on switch to Anderson then switch to anything. They’re both too difficult to stomach.

replace Morning Joe with Joy In the Morning

I think Stephanie Ruhle should have the Morning Joe slot, her perkiness works better in the AM.

Also, she has been making the rounds of every talk show from Andy Cohen to Bill Maher over the past several months. She’s angling for a better gig.

Who the fuck is Don Bongino? He looks like a tweaked out vagrant.

R510 great idea

Start your day with someone overreacting to everything whether actually relevant or not. Get your ulcer here with Joy in the morning.

Nicole Wallace always sounds muffled to me. I can hear all of her guests just fine.

Who is the Mary Hartman lookin chic?

Michael Steele in for Joy with all white men so far.

R507 Hayes' ratings may be a 'notch' above Joy's, but did he lose nearly a third of his viewers since Election Day like Joy has ? Or did he increase viewers ? Did his viewership level off and stay the same ? That matters. No network wants a show losing viewers.

[quote]Michael Steele in for Joy with all white men so far.

That's what you're seeing on your television ? You need a new TV.

I'm seeing Steele with one white man and one bi-racial man so far.

And the show is much more interesting and informative in its first thirty minutes than Reid ever delivered in the past five years. Steele and George Conway are great conversationalists on-screen, together.

Which one is biracial? Hilliard or Conway?

Conway is Filipino

R520 Half Filipino (his mother).

So TWO REPUBLICAN oh I mean reformed republcan men, got it. Great move Liberal Media, I am sure it will drive more progressive to the channel.🙄

The thing MSNBC does not get but tries it over and over again is trying to attract Fox News Republicans over to their channel by putting more Republicans in the lime light. This has FAILED every single time and all you get is a bunch of MAGAts mocking the Republicans on MSNBC as Rhinos.

Ratings never go up and they lose progressives.

Here is a video worth watching with a response from Joy Reid.

(Who is the hot guy hosting this ?????)

Yeah.Michael Steele should have gotten his own show. He gets to the point and he might pick up some Trump hating Repub’s (‘’ Principles First’’ he’s a member and they hate dump)

[quote] Nicole Wallace always sounds muffled to me. I can hear all of her guests just fine.

It's all the Vaseline they put on her mike.

[quote] The thing MSNBC does not get but tries it over and over again is trying to attract Fox News Republicans over to their channel by putting more Republicans in the lime light. This has FAILED every single time and all you get is a bunch of MAGAts mocking the Republicans on MSNBC as Rhinos.

Ridiculous take.

RIDICULOUS TAKE!

Taking a break from news. The local trump militia will let me know when martial law takes hold.

That network is rearranging deck chairs.

Sorry-Capt. Elon Smith.

Maria Shriver should do a Barbara Walters type interview show with politicians and celebrities, in the evening.

She'll need 2 weeks in rehab with a feeding tube first.

R530 After the first Trump election, it was well into 2017 before the MSNBC ratings took off. The downturn this time is largely due to loyal viewers tuning out, being so thoroughly disgusted with the current state of affairs and exhaustion. I think many of those viewers are returning now, joined by the victims and those who have already been burned by the extreme insanity and chaos of Musk and Trump 2.0. When something like Meidas Touch beats out Rogan, you know there's a sentiment shift building.

If someone can find some actual proof that Elon did rig the election and that became the top news story, trust, that would make the ratings go sky high. 🙏🏼

The right would have taken that tiny possibly and ran to the capital with it. Democrats are too lazy,stupid,petty,spoiled,proud,busy,indecisive,nice,scared,honest,inclusive etc. Too much of everything to get anything done.

Musk is so strange.

Lawrence is burning Trump for no longer being the most ignorant person in the room.

We need a new thread. Sadly, #66 may be our last MSNBC-specific chain.

E539 Crepe hanger. It hasn't even spun off yet. It might get a renaming, but I doubt it dies a natural death. And if Trump comes after it as he promises to do, that will just reinvigorate the franchise.

R535 Who needs proof? Fox would just run with it. MSNBC should do the same. If they can't find definitive proof, just go with "Strong allegations...."

Steele was boring.

[quote] The right would have taken that tiny possibly and ran to the capital with it. Democrats are too lazy,stupid,petty,spoiled,prou - d,busy,indecisive,nice,scared, - honest,inclusive etc. Too much of everything to get anything done.

Democrats believe in law and ethics and care about truth.

For many of us, those values are what we are fighting for. The argument that we should be like the Republicans and abandon all in the quest for power at any price misses the point—the Republicans have to lie because their ultimate agenda is unpopular. They want to stop government regulation, consumer protections, civil right enforcement and to cut taxes for the benefit of the rich. Some of them are white supremacists or Christian Nationalists . They can’t actually run on those agendas, so they lie.

Democrats don’t need to lie and it is not in our nature

Olbermann is roasting Maddow on his podcast, blaming her for not protecting the jobs of those fired.

Olbermann is an asshole, as Rachel can only protect her own production staff.

And she has.

Well here's Olbermann's take on the situation -basically saying Maddow could have done a lot more given her clout - starting around the 5:50 mark:

Actually, she can’t. Her production staff was Alex Wagner’s production staff and most of them will have to scramble for new jobs or leave.

Olbermann's larger point is that, according to him, the firings of Joy and the demotions of Alex and Katy Phang were decided on the basis of race and were part of an appeasement strategy to the blunt being targeted by the Dump administration.

He addresses the fact that Joy's time slot is being given to two black and one latina hosts by dismissing Steele and Sanders as "sales people" implying they aren't really journalists simply dismisses Alicia Menendez as the daughter of the disgraced senator from NJ.

He goes on to describe Maddow as the person who formerly had impeccable integrity, citing a history of Maddow threatening to walk off the network if restraints were put on her reporting to now having evolved into, essentially a dishonest sycophant for the network and asserting that her critique of their firings/demotions were performative as she and only she had the power to stop them.

Harsh take, but Olbermann is always messy but it doesn't mean he doesn't have a point in there somewhere. I think with Olbermann it is always personal. He felt personally betrayed by Maddow in previous situations but it does raise the question of Maddow's power and influence at MSNBC.

It's very possible that his take of her having this kind of power at MSNBC was once true, but is no longer true. Especially if Comcast is getting ready to sell it.

If you believe the firings are racially motivated, I suspect there is nothing anyone can say to convince you otherwise.

Considering who Joy’s replacements are, I find the argument is weak.

The insistence that the firing of a Black anchor MUST be racially motivated is an example of why progressives are losing ground. At its root, a lot if what passes for progressive thought strikes me as really being about progressive emotions.

[quote] If you believe the firings are racially motivated, I suspect there is nothing anyone can say to convince you otherwise.

r548 here. I'm summarizing Olbermann's view, not endorsing it. For example, I can really see the value of Michael Steele in primetime teaching Democrats how to fight like Republicans. He absolutely hates Dump and mocks him constantly, so I don't see how elevating him and giving him this platform appease the Orange Dotard.

I also think that as powerful as Maddow is at the network, she may not have the power she once did especially if they are getting ready to sell.

Joy Reid pissed off not just Republicans but also supporters of Israel with her commentary on Gaza etc. So that could also have been a factor

However, all that in mind. If Joy had Rachel's numbers or even O'Donnell's numbers, they would probably not have fired her.

I stopped watching both Joy and Chris over their parroting of the progressive take on Gaza which I found to be distorted and unfair. They simply ignored Hamas and Iran as actors, presenting the conflict as Netanyahu vs innocent women and children.

Having avoided both I can’t say whether Joy was worse than Chris.

One of Olbermann's arguments, which I think has some merit, is that all of the women of color who have hosted their own shows on MSNBC have ended up being let go, usually on less-than-amicable terms: Joy Reid, Tiffany Cross, Melissa Harris-Perry, and Tamron Hall.

You could also add Zerlina Maxwell, who never hosted her own show but was a fill-in anchor and hosted a podcast before parting ways with MSNBC.

MSNBC has never been able to keep a black female host.

MSNBC's record with black male hosts isn't much better. Al Sharpton had a weekday show before he was demoted to weekends. Joshua Johnson was hired away from public radio to host a weekend show but only lasted a few months before being demoted to Peacock and then let go. Jonathan Capehart is now losing his show and will end up being a co-host rather than a solo host.

[quote]Jonathan Capehart is now losing his show and will end up being a co-host rather than a solo host.

Capehart has *zero* gravitas.

It could be that the audience for shows hosted by “women of color” is limited by irrational audience preferences or by unpopular content.

I think MSNBC has an obligation to provide opportunities to women of color, but they do not have an obligation to keep them on the air with low ratings.

[quote] I think MSNBC has an obligation to provide opportunities to women of color, but they do not have an obligation to keep them on the air with low ratings.

But if all of them end up with low ratings, then it suggests that MSNBC is either doing a poor job of identifying and hiring talent or doing a poor job of developing and promoting the talent.

Interesting, too, that Chris Hayes and Stephanie Ruhle's shows have poor ratings (Ruhle's "11th Hour" loses about half of Lawrence O'Donnell's audience), but they're not being axed or reassigned -- just Joy Reid and Alex Wagner.

[quote] But if all of them end up with low ratings, then it suggests that MSNBC is either doing a poor job of identifying and hiring talent or doing a poor job of developing and promoting the talent.

Or it suggests that audiences don’t like something about the shows. If the audience isn’t there for Black women anchors, it does not necessarily follow that it’s the network’s fault.

Maybe looking at everything through a progressive prism doesn’t strike enough people as insightful or illuminating?

There is no entitlement to your own network show.

Your point about ratings require more than looking at last week’s ratings. You have to look across time and in comparison to other programs in the same time slot.

[quote]But if all of them end up with low ratings, then it suggests that MSNBC is either doing a poor job of identifying and hiring talent or doing a poor job of developing and promoting the talent.

Or maybe the audience is just sick of hearing the same tired old racial narrative day in and day out from the black hosts.

Elon Musk comes for MSNBC contributor Norm Eisen, winds up with egg on his face.

[quote]He addresses the fact that Joy's time slot is being given to two black and one latina hosts by dismissing Steele and Sanders as "sales people" implying they aren't really journalists simply dismisses Alicia Menendez as the daughter of the disgraced senator from NJ.

Sounds like he was hoping they would hire him back for the 7 pm hour, and they didn't. So now he's acting out his frustrations.

[quote] Joshua Johnson was hired away from public radio to host a weekend show but only lasted a few months before being demoted to Peacock and then let go.

Joshua was horrible. He gave off huge ego energy and that Mohawk haircut alone did not look good on cable news.

Even it had been Norm Eisen’s daughter, calling him a member of a “crime family” because his daughter works for an agency you baselessly accuse of fraud is unacceptable. I hope they sue his ass.

Tamron Hall went on to the Today Show and was shafted by them. She's immensely likable but traded her journalistic cred for a daytime show. Melissa Harris-Perry and Tiffany Cross considered all white people to be racists. Perry was patronizing and Cross was needy and showboated. I would like to see almost all of the daytime lineup fired plus Stephanie Ruhle and her asinine bromides.

I don't really know what MSNBC expects for ratings. All of the shows are essentially the same except for a different host and talking head panels unless something new breaks in the meantime. It is not like most are tuning into MSNBC and not turning the "channel" until bedtime. I am not surprised Stephanie loses half of Lawrence's audience at 11pm as many have to go to work in the AM. I also believe as the tRump presidency rolls on, the ratings numbers will improve in their favor. And I don't think MSNBC will ever come close to the ratings Fox maintains. Finally, I also believe Comcast/NBC is stingy with MSNBC - they should be streaming on Peacock for those of us who do not have cable or subscribe to a TV service like Sling or YoutubeTV.

[quote]NBC is stingy with MSNBC - they should be streaming on Peacock for those of us who do not have cable or subscribe to a TV service like Sling or YoutubeTV.

And the reason I dropped Peacock after they stopped the same day broadcast of the ENTIRE Morning Joe.

It looks like ABC is going to move The View to the internet. The Weekend View is all E!. No politics. Creating the carrot.

MSNBC needs to move to Internet broadcast.

Keith, in his list of WOC who MSNBC has axed, failed to mention Zerlina Maxwell. She would not fit his theory of those who "occasionally and forgiveably talk crazy shit" vs. the "sales people". I thought she was a sane and valuable commentator, as a guest and on her short-lived Peacock show.

Apparently, she now spends half her time in Italy, and is happier for it.

I really disliked Zelina Maxwell.

R566 I'd usually consider that says more about you than it does her.

R560 That was a Honey Badger haircut, not a Mohawk.

Whatever r568. Whatever it was, it looked horrendous. I saw Joshua at a DC gay bar not long after he was let go from MSNBC, walking around shirtless. In my opinion, he’s even more unattractive in person.

Andrew Fineberg on Lawrence tonight was the epitome of unflappable. Not even a smile. Serious as a heart attack.

I hate the amateurish smiling with horrific subject matter. The grinning idiot smiling as she discussed children starving and dying as a result of USAID being shut down and Rajas Krisnamurthy always looks like Olaf the grinning Snowman.

Raja Krishnamoorthi has degrees from Princeton and Harvard Law. He's beloved by his suburban district. That is sufficient gravitas for me. Who the fuck is Olaf the grinning showman?

r571, you are not gay, go away.

And Krishnamouthy has that grinning Indian servant look.

For a man with such gravitas, he always begins an appearance like a grinning idiot.

Joe is showing up on Fridays.

Today, he is wondering why Government Evangelicals are happy with shutting down USAID.

Hey, JoeScar, you missed the memo from Greed is Good Jesus?

Why do you think Congressional Evangelicals walk around the RED LETTER JESUS of the Beatitudes, like he's a pile of DOGE shit?

[quote]I hope they sue his ass.

I hope they sue his EVERYTHING, r561.

Listening to David Drucker talking about masculinity and young men.

He sounds like a man who knows how to eat pussy and satisfy his partner, rather than treating women like a masturbatory device.

THAT is the difference between men who have no problem with their masculinity, because they understand the needs of women, and toxic boys who only see them and submissive masturbation devices.

We need to teach our boys to not be afraid of eating pussy and the benefits of being a skilled lover/partner.

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I sincerely doubt ABC will move their #1 daytime network show - and the #1 daytime talk show over the past few years - to the internet. What will they replace the 11 am hour with ? As Walters pointed out 30 years ago, it's a tough time-slot to fill and an important one (because local affiliates want a strong lead-in to their local noon news, which the networks promise to deliver). Why would they fill it with another talk show and take a gamble on a new host / show when they have a proven winner ? What are their other options - a game show going head to head with 'The Price is Right' on CBS, which has been airing at 11 am weekdays since 1971 ? After 28 years, 'The View' has held its own against TPIR, and I think ABC is quite happy over that.

R569

Did the body look as good out of clothes as it did clothed?

R578, meh. I’ve seen better. Maybe I would’ve paid more attention to the body if he had a bag over his face.

r577, I would say that you are 100% correct on a hedged bet.

You know that Krasnov hates The Mouse.

Symone looks like Janice the Muppet -- all you see are eyelashes and her huge mouth!

What a joke! Michael Steele must cringe behind his smile!

Michael Steele is kind of odd looking himself. And those ties.

Still looking for MSNBC to offer Paola Ramos and Alicia Menéndez their own Beaner Hour.

¡¡¡Se están comiendo a los perros!!!

Ah, y no se trata de alinearse con los demócratas, no se trata de votar por alguien que los considera esclavos y que no debería votar.

Trump told you who he was when he came down the escalator. Everything he has done since verifies his loathing for Latinos.

He told you.

Believe him.

And Morning Joe makes me vomit with his Evangelical Redemption Tour.

Joe, you ARE part of the problem.

The Southern Baptists are so corrupt that they can be parodied on Young Sheldon and Georgie and Mandy.

Have Chuck Lorre on to explain why you are a permanent part of the problem.

Convert to Episcopalianism, Joe Scarborough, the true church of America and the faith of 11 US Presidents.

[quote] Convert to Episcopalianism, Joe Scarborough, the true church of America and the faith of 11 US Presidents.

What a bizarre statement.

Joe remaining an apologist for the Plantation Churches is likewise bizarre.

Nicolle is holding up the fort well.

Katie Phang is in for Our Favorite Wigger.

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