UnitedHealth CEO Executed in NYC

I'm first!

Waiting on what the barista remembers about this guy--- He looked friendly so they will likely remember something-

I don't think he's stupid about the CCTV cameras - that's why he had the mask.

Presumably he's been broken by UHC terms - family members' deaths or something else. That's why he inscribed the bullets.

He's not stupid - but he's so broken he's definitely, what the fuck do I have to lose? He knows he will probably get caught - and doesn't care.

I think this is brave as hell. History is FULL of social activists and those fighting for human and civil rights being killed in cold blood. VERY few right-wingers have been targeted.

He looks young

Until we actually know his motive, I'm not going to comment on the whole hero of the people thing.

I do think it's funny that DL is guessing every ethnicity under the sun and that someone guessed his age was 20 to 35 lol.

“Sorry, officer — I don’t recall anything about that patron.”

- Starbucks barista who can’t get coverage for her ulcerative colitis.

[quote] It Might Seem Obvious What Happened to the UnitedHealthcare CEO. Don’t Be So Sure.

A gunman dressed in dark clothing and wearing a mask over his lower face ambushed UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson on Wednesday morning in midtown Manhattan, where Thompson’s company was hosting a conference. The New York Police Department said the shooting was a “targeted attack” and that the gunman remains at large, but few other details have been released.

Surveillance video captured the moment the shooter calmly approached Thompson, pointed a pistol equipped with a silencer, fired multiple shots, and fled on an electric bike. Police are now combing through video footage to track him down, including at a nearby Starbucks the shooter visited.

Many who noted the details of the shooting had an immediate question: Is this what a professional hit looks like in real life? The NYPD has said nothing of the sort, but that didn’t stop speculation from running rampant online. Dennis Kenney, a professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice who has decades of expertise studying professional killers, has a unique perspective on that.

He’s spent years dispelling myths about contract killings born of movies and Law & Order episodes. He told me he found aspects of the attack peculiar and agreed to talk to me while emphasizing that it’s too early to draw definitive conclusions about a crime for which very little information has been released. Our conversation has been edited and condensed for clarity.

Slate: What were your first impressions when you heard the details of the shooting Wednesday?

Dennis Kenney: The first thing that’s unusual is that the shooter appeared to have a silencer. They’re not impossible to get, but they’re not readily available. The second thing is that he appeared to have inside information on the victim’s location. He knew where to wait and when to wait. The fact that he used the silencer didn’t make sense to me at first, until I saw that the shooting took place at about 6:30 in the morning. Generally, if it was a midmorning sort of thing, you’d want a gun that made a lot of noise to scare observers off. But obviously at that time, no one was around. It also suggested that the urgency of the shooting was important. CEOs of health care companies are just not that hard to find in isolated settings. So the fact that he chose to do it in midtown Manhattan was a little bit unique.

Police called it a “brazen targeted attack.” You’ve studied contract killings and so-called hit men and sought to dispel myths about these kinds of crimes. What do you think of speculation that this was a hit?

I think it’s pretty unlikely. My understanding is the CEO was being investigated for insider trading and some other financial violation. The fact that he ran a health care company—they tend to leave a lot of angry people in their wake. So, it seemed to be someone who knew what they were doing, but the idea of a professional hit man, those are pretty few and far between. So I would think more likely it was somebody with a particular grudge that had access to inside information to know where to be and when to be there.

Do contract killings usually play out in such dramatic fashion?

A professional hit man would probably prefer to do something less public with limited exposure. Doing it in the middle of midtown—there’s just too many things that can go wrong, so you probably prefer generally not to do it there. However, if it was time sensitive, then that would make a difference. There’s a range of hit men, so it could be somebody that was hired, but it’s unlikely.

I'm 20-35, but I can pass for 18

Is there any other reason you think it’s unlikely?

This obviously was not the target’s usual routine. A professional would generally try to catch him in his regular routine in a place where the exposure of the shooter is minimized so that the risk of being caught or observed is pretty low. Manhattan, particularly in midtown, you’ve got cameras everywhere. I understand that they’ve got some fairly decent shots of the guy’s face while he was in Starbucks or something like that nearby. The exposure was fairly high, and most professionals don’t like that amount of risk. Again, unless it was time sensitive—there could be any number of reasons why it was important that it happened that day.

Has technology, such as surveillance cameras, changed the way professional killers operate?

That’s hard to know. Like most businesses, there’s a wide range of professionals. You’ve got some that are much lower-end and others that are much more skilled and with better equipment. So, I would guess this person, if they’re hired, they would be relatively on the low end. The fact that it appeared in the video that the guy’s gun might have jammed is also a little bit of a concern for a professional. You make sure your equipment works.

What kind of crime would a very public shooting like this generally suggest? Does it fit a particular profile?

The thing that struck me was the fact that he knew where he was going to be and when he was going to be there. Generally, you get that information by observing the individual. You find their schedule and their routine, and then you intercept them somewhere along the line on their routine. This was obviously not a routine setting. So he had to have some reason to believe that Thompson was going to be coming out of that door at an approximate time to be able to lay in wait. Because it’s Manhattan, standing around waiting risks the likelihood of being challenged by a cop or security guard coming by, which suggests that he had reason to know when the guy was going to be coming out. It suggests some sort of inside information.

What are some common misconceptions people have of contract killers? How do professionals differ from portrayals we often see in movies and TV?

I don’t watch that many of those kinds of movies. Most of the highly skilled folks that I’m aware of are assassins for government agencies or something such as that. But when you look at even those levels of individuals, there have been several attempted assassinations in D.C. of government officials by other government officials, and generally the only reason you know about them is that they were bungled. It’s a fairly difficult thing to do.

Do law-enforcement agencies differentiate between a professional hit and other types of murders?

For the most part, the investigation is done the same way. If this was a professional, then it’s obviously someone who had reason to want Thompson dead. Because he ran an insurance company, you would look at everything from individuals who have been turned down for insurance coverage and lost their spouse as a result of it. That would be one thing the police would look for. They’ll first look for the reason why he was killed. And once you come up with the reason, then it’s much easier to find the person responsible for it.

Big Johnny RUBBED out!!

Insurance boss whacked on sidewalk!

𝐌𝐮𝐫𝐝𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐝 𝐈𝐧𝐬𝐮𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐜𝐞 𝐂𝐄𝐎 𝐇𝐚𝐝 𝐃𝐞𝐩𝐥𝐨𝐲𝐞𝐝 𝐚𝐧 𝐀𝐈 𝐭𝐨 𝐀𝐮𝐭𝐨𝐦𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐲 𝐃𝐞𝐧𝐲 𝐁𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐟𝐢𝐭𝐬 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐒𝐢𝐜𝐤 𝐏𝐞𝐨𝐩𝐥𝐞

Has there been an explanation for the CEO breaking his routine and leaving for the conference so early? Did the person(s) behind the killing lure him to the ambush?

How long does it take to trace a phone or test DNA from items he left behind?

A phone? Depends what kind of it was locked etc

He had info of his movement. That hotel is big with multiple entrances, how did he know he was gonna use that specific one?

“Delay, Deny, Defend” — two of the three words seemingly left — is sub-titled: “Why insurance companies don’t pay claims and what you can do about it.”

Some idiots on this thread and the one prior think that murders the 1960s led to civil rights legislation. Legislation happened due to Democratic Presidents (Johnson) and Congress. Do I really need to say this? People really believe that murdering health care execs will lead to health care reform or universal coverage?

No wonder Trump won.

Who knows? Maybe this publically unlamented CEO's death might make a change that could benefit his and his company's victims. From the Times:

As one of the nation’s largest health insurers, covering more than 50 million people, UnitedHealthcare has battled a range of complaints and investigations from patients, doctors and lawmakers for its denial of medical claims.

Those practices may face new scrutiny after law enforcement officials said that the bullet casings found at the site of the killing of the UnitedHealthcare chief executive Brian Thompson on Wednesday appeared to have messages, including the words “deny” and “delay,” written on them.

Twitter is thirsting over the cutie killer!

Calm down, Mary R17. The fact is that the martyrdom of MLK and others DID help to advance the cause of civil rights. Otherwise, you think they died in vain? Sorry you don't like to be proven wrong, dear.

Stuff it, Charlie.

Well past time we stormed the Bastille and put the fear of god into these societal leeches.

[quote]He’s spent years dispelling myths about contract killings born of movies and Law & Order episodes.

I'm not going through all 600 posts on the original thread, but I assume someone has pointed out the reality that "hit men" don't actually exist, as noted in the movie of that name with Glen Powell. The only "myth" to dispel is that they exist in the first place.

To state the exceedingly obvious exception: NYC's very, VERY long slate of Mafia hits. But this ain't one of those, nor is there evidence that it's a contract killer in the first place. The most likely perp is someone who lost a loved one because UH refused coverage, and that someone went to considerable lengths to learn how to use a silencer-equipped gun, along with detective techniques to determine his mark's real-time location.

R17, I'd suggest not feeding the trolls. They know the history of civil rights legislation full well, and that no murders in the '60s led to it. Also, the killer is an unlikely Trump voter for one excellent reason: he has functioning brain cells.

[quote]This guy had the wits to carefully plan, acquire the right tools, and carry out an assassination in broad daylight.

[quote]but will he get away with it?

If social media has anything to say about it, yes. Yes he will, with thanks and appreciation from a country sick (literally) and tired of healthcare coverage denials.

[quote] They know the history of civil rights legislation full well, and that no murders in the '60s led to it.

R22, no one said murders led to it. What was clearly said (by me, anyway) is that the murders of civil rights leaders caused sympathy for the cause of civil rights and hence, aided in legislation.

Hitmen exists but they work for govts and they have many methods of killing, poisoning, etc. to make it look like natural deaths etc.

We just push 'em out a window.

CEOs like him make something like 300 times what the average employee at their company makes while workers struggle for basic necessities (like healthcare coverage).

Not saying what happened to him is right, but this outcome isn’t surprising when you make a lavish living from exploiting the sick and vulnerable.

The quality of the picture of the perp at r11 is not good, but it looks like he might be wearing a prosthetic chin. It juts out and there seems to be an outline.

r9

[quote]What kind of crime would a very public shooting like this generally suggest? [/quote]

One that sends a message? Didn't the mob use public murders to send messages to other gangs?

Unless the killer is a seasoned professional, rest assured, he or she will most definitely get caught.

I understand that the NYPD, along with LAPD, have more problems than a 200 questions math exam, however, they are two of the best police forces we have in the United States, and with some help from the FBI, the killer will almost certainly be apprehended.

Again, unless you’re a real pro, it’s almost completely impossible to get away with murder in 2024, ESPECIALLY in surveillance ridden mid-town, unless you’re Donald J. Trump.

[quote] he or she

He or she, R30?

[Quote] is sub-titled: “Why insurance companies don’t pay claims and what you can do about it.”

Here’s another idea, book…

R29, politically motivated killings are often public and dramatic. It's not just a question of opportunity. Putin, for example, has frequently used esoteric poisons to advertise his involvement in murders committed outside of Russia.

When did Charlie become such a corporate boot-licker?

It shouldn't stop here - Wall Street assholes have crashed the economy multiple times and got little or no sentences.

These healthcare execs know full well they are killing people with their policies and they don't care. As long as the share price increases and profitability are there - they do not care.

The huge problem the last 40 years has been this 'oh I was just doing what I was hired to do' and completely divorcing themselves of their impact on the greater society.

They have tens if not over hundred million dollars - but i's not enough. They need MORE MORE MORE. It's sick and it's a system that needs to be broken - the first is to scare them through loss of life.

There is NO justice otherwise - they don't get harsh prison sentences or come up on charges at all. Look at Senator Scott and his massive medicare fraud - he walks around scot free.

Personally, I hope this gives a lot more vigilantes the boost to do more. These people need to PAY for the misery they've inflected for their own profit.

The assassin is dreamy.

“You can tell they really just want us to shut up and not acknowledge it,” a source within the company told me. “Supervisors are afraid to speak up about the corruption for fear of losing our jobs. It’s like we’re being forced to lionize Brian instead of analyze who he was.”

“Thompson took massive pay outs while we at the bottom had to work harder and longer,” one employee told me. “Meanwhile Witty brought in AI to learn from us. So they have the money for AI and massive bonuses, but we’re still using software that is massively behind the industry standard. They’ve been lying to us.”

R34, I agree. Nothing will change these assholes except fear for their own lives.

If I were in the mafia, were involved in corporate insider trading, and didn’t want someone else implicated in it to testify and blab about me, here’s what I would do.

First, I would hire a hitman from Eastern Europe or Italy. He’s in, he’s out, he’s unreachable by US LE.

Second, I’d tell the hitman to make it look like a grudge so that the investigation would be misdirected. A health insurance executive makes this incredibly easy.

I’m not saying it’s what happened. I’m saying that just because some evidence seems to suggest a grudge, don’t assume it was one.

How do you find the hitman you want to hire, R38?

[QUOTE] “Supervisors are afraid to speak up about the corruption for fear of losing our jobs. It’s like we’re being forced to lionize Brian instead of analyze who he was.”

I said it on the first thread and I'll say it again, I can't think of a crime in recent history where the pool of potential suspects is so huge.

First — be in the mafia, as my hypo said

R41 was for r39 btw

R30, half of homicides go unsolved.

All of you keyboard warriors pushing for revolution, murder, etc. would be far more impressive if you were actually doing anything to change anything rather than just typing. I know I'll get flamed for that, but it's the truth. Pushing for death and destruction is easy. Realistic solutions are hard.

And this guy may just be a guy hired by another scumbag fat cat to silence him about something. No reason to turn him into a hero before you actually know details.

I hope economy crashes, Bitcoin is over 100k. It's fucking unreal

The shooter looks like a better looking Justin Trudeau. Does he have an alibi?

Thank you, R41. It seems so complicated to find a guy who’s open to being hired, to know where the target will be in a place that’s easy for him to reach, and for him to add the flourish of engraving the casings, but it’s equally mind-blowing to imagine a regular guy becoming so infuriated, while he is also able to take the time to become so good with a gun that the jamming doesn’t ruin his plan, and then he has no immediate benefit — no payoff from somebody hiring him, just the hope that he isn’t apprehended.

This will be interesting to watch.

Law enforcement sources have revealed that investigators obtained a fingerprint off a water bottle the suspected gunman left behind at the scene.

Insiders told CNN that the fingerprint was smudged, and is therefore less conclusive than a full print.

Officials added that they are still attempting to crack into a phone that was left behind at the murder scene.

Okay, R44, when you can provide a blueprint of how we, as citizens, can move the immovable Congress, huge corporations, SCOTUS, et al, into not working against the best interests of the rest of the citizenry, you let us know.

It's interesting the victim wore that bright blue jacket...kind of unusual. Someone on another thread mentioned his wife could have suggested he wear it. Or maybe his mistress? 🤔

He’s from Minnesota, r50

[quote] you would look at everything from individuals who have been turned down for insurance coverage and lost their spouse as a result of it

Okay that narrows it down to what, a few hundred thou?

I hope the defense has the sense to request a jury trial if/when he’s caught.

Water bottle and phone left behind could also be ploys to send investigators down the wrong path or at least waste time. I do think the gunman is out of the country and probably home free.

Now health insurance professionals know how lawyers feel lol

From yahoo story “Beyond the shooter's own motives, it's clear from the shockingly celebratory reaction online to Thompson's murder that anger about the American insurance and healthcare system has reached the point of literal bloodlust.”

One thing that's very clear is that the assailant wanted to make a splash. A public killing right before the annual shareholders meeting where in two hours the victim was to give a speech announcing a record $450B profit. Engraved bullet casings.

I am wondering if the killer might want to get caught. Some of his mistakes were really egregious: dropping a cell phone, water bottle, and candy wrapper, and letting his face be seen on one occasion at the hostel. It's almost as though he deliberately left clues. If he has a cause and he's on a campaign, the investigation/manhunt is going to garner more attention. I wouldn't be surprised at all if some sort of a manifesto appears online.

This comment the Times reprinted reads like a Datalounger (and I love it):

“Thoughts and deductibles to the family,” read one comment underneath a video of the shooting posted online by CNN. “Unfortunately my condolences are out-of-network.”

No one is worth killing over insider trading. That’s something that you can negotiate with the prosecution.

But the insider trading point does show how faithless this guy may have been: he wasn’t just killing policy holders for profit, he was ripping off his own shareholders.

It isn't just that he was a CEO of a company that screwed over thousands. It's that the shooter didn't take it out in his family, employees of UH who had Monday in the policies/decisions of UH, or on any bystanders. He even used a bicycle (!) to get away.

*who had NO SAY, not Monday

I saw a story that said they use a fucking ai bot to deny claims now.

This generation are such sluts: “based on that blurry CCTV snap… he could cum up in me! Yeah.”

The killer reminds me a bit of Timothee Chalamet.

R61 - yes, they used an AI bot to deny claims WITH a 90% ERROR RATE. Plus, they were able to layoff a lot of people and rely on the erroneous AI bot instead.

A lot of companies are using AI - but this is fucking evil when they know it's wrong in providing responses.

Y'know what else can be done through AI? A CEO position - bet on it.

AI might have more ethics than a CEO, depending on who programmed it.

If this murder has proven anything, it's that there is a massive unification of hatred for this one industry that everyone can 't help but be affected by, and no sympathy when one of their own suffers the ultimate sacrifice that any CEO can make on the altar of greed and self-service at the expense of an entire country.

From the DM. It sounds like he dismissed his guards. He was coming out of the Hilton, not going into it right? He was staying at the hotel across the street, though. Maybe he had an assignation and was returning to his room to shower and get ready for his 8:00 speech.

[QUOTE]Brian Thompson's former bodyguard condemns lack of security around targeted CEO A former bodyguard for slain healthcare executive Brian Thompson said he is stunned at the lack of security the CEO had while walking in Manhattan.

[QUOTE]Security expert Philip Klein, whose firm Klein Investigations protected Thompson in the 2000s, told TMZ he is 'shocked and baffled' that the businessman was walking around without a detail.

[QUOTE]He said Thompson should have had up to a dozen people protecting him given the inflammatory nature of the healthcare insurance industry.

[QUOTE]It was previously revealed that UnitedHealthcare hired security for their top executives and Thompson had a security detail for his trip to New York City, but they were not with him when he was shot.

[QUOTE]Klein said Thompson should have been wearing a protective vest at the very least, but may have not had any guards with him at the time for his pesonal preferance.

Also: apparently Loverboy used a fake ID when checking into the hostel.

r67, he was walking into the Hilton, where the annual meeting was taking place. He spent the night at another hotel. Maybe the security detail was all staying at the Hilton and he opted out (encouraged by someone else, perhaps)?

Seems to be that these shitstains KNOW what pricks they are and go to great lengths to protect themselves with security instead of just being a decent, compassionate person to begin with.

The security detail stays where he stays, that's the whole point. To protect him!!

How can they protect him if they stayed at different hotel? So dumb

United Healthcare wouldn't have paid for a security detail to stay at a 5-star hotel.

R34, clearly you have not read my posts. The Civil Rights Act was passed in 1964. MLK was murdered in 1968. I have been donating significant amounts of $ to candidates that passed The ACA and support universal coverage for years. If I don’t like murder as a tool to achieve a policy goal that does not make me a corporate boot licker. As a health care professional published in the literature more than 50 times I have advocated and agitated for health care reform. Murder has not been one of my strategic tools.

R72, do you know how security works?

Which 5 star hotel was he staying at?

The only hotel I'm aware of that across the street is Wellington hotel, I don't think it's 5 stars, it's old as fuck.

He went to see a whore, that's why he ditched his security detail

If you’ve ever worked with senior execs, they are all about staying at the very top places their employers will allow. It’s a sign of power.

He was never going to stay at a Hilton.

It's gross how many of these execs already have security because they KNOW they're killing people.

But these sociopaths don't fucking care.

He was exiting the site of a large meeting (at the Hilton). Seems some can’t read.

[quote]He went to see a whore, that's why he ditched his security detail

R76 I think you’re on to something — not necessary a sex whore, but a liaison with an unsavory player in the web of corruption he was involved in.

^^Necessarily, I meant.

He used a fake New Jersey ID.

The CEO of another major health insurer is a friend of a friend.

The CEO has security even in off hours.

Bank CEOs don’t have that!

[quote]Which 5 star hotel was he staying at? The only hotel I'm aware of that across the street is Wellington hotel, I don't think it's 5 stars, it's old as fuck.

Isn't the St Regis just a block away? But then, it's also "old as fuck."

[quote]The killer reminds me a bit of Timothee Chalamet.

You aren't the only one, R63.

MANHUNT!

He was headed to a meeting- just read in the Times.

Brenda Starr at R87 overslept.

Lock up all the twinks!!!!!

He checked into the hostel 5 days before the killing!!!!

You bet they are looking at all cctvs

Deny" "Defend" "Depose" written on shell casings found at scene. Same title as book condemning health care industry.

I don't even care about motive. This guy was cut from the same green-shade-wearing, numbers-crunching, ledger-keeping, orders-following cloth as Eichmann.

So the killer is a person of color aka POC?

The Luxury Collection and the Warwick are the two 5 star hotels one block from the Hilton.

Here's what I want to know. How did the shooter know the CEO was going to be in NYC, how did he know when he would be walking to the Hilton? Why was the security team traveling with the CEO not with him when he was shot? He had been getting threats. He had security. WTF? Yes this was a hit, but the shooter seems to have known a lot about his target before pulling the trigger.

P.S. We do not have "health CARE" companies. We have "health INSURANCE" companies. The ACA, Obama's baby, is only to help people BUY INSURANCE.

Think Walter Neff, not Dr. Kildare.

The investor conference he was going to attend was at 8:00 AM, but he left his hotel at 6:30 AM, so maybe he was lured to a clandestine “meeting” before the investor conference, that was really an ambush.

R17 from The Guardian: Brian Thompson’s killing sparks outrage online over state of US healthcare

This case and the threads about it are in the same league as the Murder Twinks drama from a few years ago and may even top the snow shovel murder threads featuring "Jimmmmaay!!"

Well, I sat in prison because HIT-MEN EXIST.

R22: Just reading the posts before yours would answer your question---you don't have to read 600

[quote]United Healthcare wouldn't have paid for a security detail to stay at a 5-star hotel.

Fortunately, GLAAD does.

Yes, R97, but how did the shooter know he was not staying at the Hilton, and that he would walk over to the hotel, and not arrive say by helicopter like a lot of CEOs. He got there at 6:46 and wasn't due until * AM. My point is that even if he stalked the guy he wouldn't know his actual schedule unless he had access to inside information.

Hee hee hee ...

[quote]Addressed to an unnamed applicant—following “a careful review of the claim submitted for emergency services on December 4, 2024″—it informs them they are being rejected for coverage because “you failed to obtain prior authorization before seeking care for the gunshot wound to your chest.”

[quote]“If you would like to appeal the fatal gunshot, please call 1-800-555-1234 with case # 123456789P to initiate a peer to peer within 48 hours of the fatal gun shot,” wrote one user.

Maybe someone hacked his schedule. A lot of companies have shitty IT

Before I deleted the app, I saw many Drs @ing United Healthcare CEOs on Twitter about the policyies causing denial of their patients of lifesaving coverage or decrying their denying payment of claims for needed medical care.

United Healthcare and Humana.

For all we know, the killer was stalking the victim so he knew his path. He also could have been working with someone. Clearly he is a pro.

[quote]My point is that even if he stalked the guy he wouldn't know his actual schedule unless he had access to inside information.

He had access to inside information, maybe from the wife or an industry rival. The words on the bullets are a diversion akin to the ransom note left at Jon-Benet’s house.

[quote] Calm down, Mary [R17]. The fact is that the martyrdom of MLK and others DID help to advance the cause of civil rights. Otherwise, you think they died in vain? Sorry you don't like to be proven wrong, dear.

Revulsion at the Emmet Till murder and the killings of college activists during Freedom Summer might have led to change. But MLK was assassinated in 1968. How did the "cause of civil rights" advance in the wake of MLK's murder?

Thoughts and prayers...

Accidents happen.

Why is the reward so low? I could write a check for that.

Am I the only one who is listening to wife talk, and believe she just might be behind this ? God knows how much he's worth dead (probably more than alive), and for her to hire someone to pop him off with a nice pay out doesn't seem too wild to me.

Or maybe I watch too much Court TV.

[quote][bold]Wow. Per @JohnMillerCNN, among the interviews law enforcement has been conducting, they spoke to a female employee at the hostel who said, at one point, she asked the then-masked man to lower his mask while flirting with him, which is when this photo released by NYPD today was taken.[/bold]

Link to Twitter post at R115

[quote]Wow. Per @JohnMillerCNN, among the interviews law enforcement has been conducting, they spoke to a female employee at the hostel who said, at one point, she asked the then-masked man to lower his mask while flirting with him, which is when this photo released by NYPD today was taken.

One of the replies to Kaitlan Collins.

It’s embarrassing for NYPD that they can’t identify the killer.

Hey all- I was on reddit earlier and they are right- that shooter and the starbucks guy are two different people- There is no way that is the same person.

Well, R109, Medger Evers was assassinated in 1963.

Can you please post the link to Reddit r119

When a chief executive is killed is it an "ex-ek'-u-shun?"

[quote] Am I the only one who is listening to wife talk, and believe she just might be behind this ?

Mary R114, there's a conga line of DL queens here who keep circling back to the wife.

R123 Thanks, Muriel. I haven't read through all the posts, so I wasn't sure. I guess I'm not that far off.

Following the threads on Insta and TikTok -- people are rooting for the guy to get away, and throwing hate on the CEO.

Me too.

Me three, R125.

We can't all be like Miss R109.

The reaction isn't dissimilar to the reaction to the assassination of Shinzo Abe two years ago in Japan. People looked at the assassin's grievances and decided he had some points, which led to Japan restricting the activities of the Unification Church. (The assassin's elderly mother had given all of her assets to the church, to which Abe had deep ties.)

Abe's political party also suffered losses in the next election.

check it out. R121

Thanks r129 😊

The guy in the picture who is smiling without a mask does look like Jakey!!!

So this picture of him smiling without his mask was taken at the hostel where he stayed? And they're convinced he stayed at this hostel? They also have a lead on the gun. Said they found a seller in Connecticut and the gun is kind of rare.

If all of these things are true they will catch him withing the next48 hours or at least have a name. Which pisses me off. Let's think about all the things this guy did wrong. But not yet. Using an unusual gun was stupid if he did in fact use one. He had a burner phone and was talking on that phone shortly before he shot the CEO. Who was he talking to? Was there a second person involved to notify him when the CEO was leaving his hotel? And why did he ditch the phone in the alleyway? Or did he accidently drop it. They will absolutely find out who he was talking to on that phone and where the person was .

He had a water bottle with a smudged finger print. But. If he was drinking from that bottle they will like find a miniscule amount of DNA. They tracked him through Central Park to 85th street. He didn't have the backpack. They're now searching the park for it. WTF did he go t o Starbucks?? He stayed at a hostel. So he didn't have a lot of money. Or did he think he could evade detection at the hostel instead of staying in a hotel.? There are so many fucking hotels in NYC. He had fake ID. So he shoots the CEO walks across the street starts running cut's through an alley, grabs a bike and rides through Central Park. When they pick him up on camera he's out of the park on 85th. Did he ditch his outfit? If he had boots, pants and another hoodie in the backpack, he could have altered his appearance. He didn't do enough. He should have worn a wig. Should have altered his complexion. Something. Changing footwear was important.

You still don't know why he did this and it pisses you off? You're getting way to into this, dude.

An accident can sometimes be a woman’s best friend.

*In r132 I meant to say.. you don't know why he did this and it pisses you off he made mistakes and will get caught.

[quote] Again, unless you’re a real pro, it’s almost completely impossible to get away with murder in 2024

The homicide clearance rate is less than 60%

This is hilarious. You might wonder if the wake-up call is how they do business. But no: it's about how much security or extra security they need.

Bad link, R129, can you try again or tell us which sub or post title?

Of course the wake-up call is about security. Why would you expect anyone to change their behavior especially when the motive is unclear? (Not that they will change it if the Internet keyboard warriors' hopes are realized.)

Oh, no! From CNN:

Among the interviews they’ve been conducting, law enforcement interviewed a female employee at the hostel who said, at one point, she asked the then masked man to lower his mask while flirting with him — which is when the photos released by the New York Police Department today were captured, the official said.

I'm not "way to into it" I'm just analyzing this crime which could have been a perfect crime and looking for the flaws. I will speculate further that this person is not someone who knows NYC. If he was a frequent visitor or a resident he would have figured out some other escape route.

R136, Biden better come up with some ways to protect healthcare from these v monsters because they will definitely tryb to changev coverage and fuck people over even morev now that they have Trump and Elon and Vivek.

Not R119, but this link has a lot of discussion around the photos being of the wrong person.

Yeah, R140, sure--it's Biden's job!

Thank God he isn't gay or trans.

R143 You know the MAGAs were hoping he'd be a border-crosser. Jeanine Pirro was foaming at the mouth, hoping he'd be an 'illegal'.

And there you have it, r142. Every horror inflicted on us, our economy, and our national security starting in late January 2025 will be blamed on Biden's not having taken steps to prevent it.

I'm shocked the bike was still there.

Thanks, R141.

I also found this post, it's based on a meme, so I'm guessing it's not what R119 was referring to, but they are also doing a photo/video comparison.

I'm not gonna blame Biden, but as I read about him taking measures to possibly pardon people like Liz Cheney and Fauci and others as a precautionary measure, and I have read other articles where his staff is trying to protect gains made for the environment, etc. all I am saying is if Joe and his staff have a "to do list" I sincerely hope they take measures to do whatever they can to protect healthcare. Pre existing conditions, Medicare, ACA, and the basic benefit menu that health plans have to provide so they aren't just junk insurance. I won't blame him for anything. I think he did an outstanding job, and I hate that he has such low approval ratings and has practically been erased the past couple of weeks. I think the outgoing administration will do what it can before they leave. I just hope Healthcare is part of that agenda. They actually have until January 3rd when the new Congress is sworn in. And if they think they can get anything done with Congress they have until noon on January 20th. Lame Ducks can get stuff done.

[quote] I'm shocked the bike was still there.

He probably just parked it there 5 minutes before, R145--and it was only 6:45 am in midtown. But yeah, I thought that, too.

[quote] I sincerely hope they take measures to do whatever they can to protect healthcare.

Like what, R147? It's not like he can pardon the Affordable Care Act. I don't understand why it's not apparent there's only so much he can do.

It all feels like maybe they’ll have an ID on him within a few more days.

I’m a little bit heartened to see so much mainstream acknowledgement of “yeah well, the US healthcare insurance system sucks and there are lots of angry people out there.”

According to TMZ the shooter arrived in NYC on November 24th having traveled from Atlanta on a Greyhound Bus.

Killing this guy, the CEO does nothing to impact the heath insurance industry. so the top guys get more bodyguards. But the culture itself, and the institution is hardwire to be the way it is. Thompson is dead and another will take his place and the machine will just chug on. Nothing will change because he was gunned down.

Thanks, Captain Obvious R152.

I also wouldn't say it's that cut and dried.

Not a pro and two experts say why.

We know he's not a pro.

Oh I'm sorry R155, I should have consulted you first. Anyway the two guys at the link offer some interesting info. You don't need to watch it though R155 cuz you know, you already know.

There's only a thousand billionaires and a couple thousand CEOs. That's the weak point of the other side. We could not win a civil war with 75 million Trumpists and all those guns, but 3,000 people, even well defended, it's a different story. They stole our country from us through a campaign of lies and fraud and systematic corruption of all branchers and levels of government. But without the money to pay continual bribes, they have nothing. And their money won't always go to like minded people. I mean look at this corrupt sack of shit. Number one inside seller knowing the company was under investigation. I won't cheer because he could have been one of the good ones. But no need to break out the violins. .

Guess now they gonna find his friends and family in Atlanta!

The victim's two front teeth (r151) look a bit Bucky Beaver. Apropos of nothing, I know.

Perhaps he was just passing through ATL.

r157 [quote]They stole our country from us through a campaign of lies fraud, and systematic corruption of all branches and levels of government.

Don't forget the professional class that supports them, the colloquially the top 10%. That's where their replacements will come from. Every bit as greedy as the CEO.

R159 - UHC denied braces for some obscure reason.

On the surface, the murder of a healthcare CEO and the assassination of Tsar Nicholas II seem unrelated. However, both involve influential figures whose deaths symbolize resistance to perceived systemic issues—monarchical oppression in the Romanovs’ case and potential flaws in modern healthcare leadership.

Maybe he's a revolutionary john q healthcare protest fighter who wants a single payer system.

R159 thanks for that

If I just saw a photo of this guy (dead CEO), I’d think “chubby, homely guy with blank / dumb expression.” Difficult to believe he was so “successful.”

Maybe not very bright, but willing to do what no one else would do.

[quote]Why is the reward so low? I could write a check for that.

Eldergay.

The reason the reward is so low is that secretly they don't want him to be caught, so they're creating no financial inducement.

But they don't have the resources R161. Look at that old Nazi Sam Walton. His progeny are no longer all rabid right wing douchebags.

The dead CEO was accustomed to having his ass kissed 24/7. Quite the come down getting your leg shot out from under you and dying on the sidewalk like a homeless person.

I wonder if the killer has committed suicide. He could have viewed the mission as a "suicide" type thing. The account of him flirting and smiling and removing his mask to talk with the woman at the hostel might have been done because he wanted to humor her and have at least one fun moment before killing the CEO and then running off somewhere to kill himself.

R170, he would have offed himself at the scene. More dramatic to add to his already OTT bullet casing Meghan Markle School of Banana Writing.

If you haven't already watched David Fincher's The Killer you should. This reeks of it.

The feel good story of the year.

It's giving John Q.

Dumb move revealing your face bucko, now its your time to be deposed

"Nearly one in five insured adults experienced claim denials during a 12-month period, according to a 2023 KFF survey. Those with job-based insurance or Affordable Care Act policies ran into this problem about twice as often as those covered by Medicare or Medicaid, whose denial rates were around one in 10.

Last year, UnitedHealthcare settled a case brought by a severely ill college student in Pennsylvania who claimed the company denied coverage for drugs determined necessary by his doctors, leaving him with a medical bill of more than $800,000. The lawsuit, which was chronicled by ProPublica, uncovered the lengths to which the insurer goes to reject claims, including burying medical reports and relying on rubberstamped recommendations from doctors paid by the company."

[quote]If I just saw a photo of this guy (dead CEO), I’d think “chubby, homely guy with blank / dumb expression.” Difficult to believe he was so “successful.”

But he was indeed successful. And he should have tipped that cute escort after his 'services' the night before, and he'd be alive today. But nooooooo - he wouldn't slip him an extra couple of hundred bucks ? Really ?

Let this be a lesson to all chubby, homely, billionaire middle-aged CEOs. You hire, you tip generously.

Who are you gloating for, R175--the scumbag CEO?

So maybe the CEO and C suite can just make like 2 million a year and deny fewer claims?

Maybe they should stop bragging about doing billions in profit when it means people's safety and health is at expense because of it.

Patients pay money to the company, the company doesn't cover the cost, and then brags about making profit off the people making money.

Yeah I cannot fathom who would hate enough to commit murder.

For those like R152 who claim nothing will change from this CEO's murder--there's this. I know it's a different insurance company, but the backlash that has resulted in general for the health insurance mafia as a result of the CEO's death is forcing these businesses to start rethinking their policies. I have no doubt this is related to the execution.

And that, R181, is the last you’ll hear on the subject.

Trump will fuck over his supporters again because they can’t bribe the Republicans like the insurance companies can.

Speaking of insurance companies, did you read the statement from UHC thanking all the doctors and patients for their kind words after the shooting? Unfuckin’ unbelievable gall.

R182, the last we'll hear on what subject? I don't think the outrage is dying down.

With Americans complaining constantly about insurance companies, when one mentioned that single payer would get rid of all the problems, Americans reflexively say, "No, we can't do that!"

I'm not seeing that as a reflexive reaction, R184.

Good riddance.

Expanding coverage, R183. There’s deserved outrage, but his death won’t change the health insurance business model under Trump and the Republicans in Congress.

[quote] but his death won’t change the health insurance business model under Trump and the Republicans in Congress.

I'm not talking about them, R187, I'm talking about the rising awareness in the country in general. I think with the gunning down of this guy, who symbolizes everything that's rotten and dangerous about the health insurance mafia, people have seen there's strength and likemindedness in their outrage, even if it leads to violent acts. This is, after all, an issue that affects middle-class Democrats and Repugs equally.

The no we can't do that crowd is the Insurance lobby pushing back and promoting false information to scare people. telling them all kinds of shit. If we had "Medicare for all" we'd be in much better shape and it would not eliminate private insurance companies. Medicare subcontracts with private insurers. The best argument for single pay or for Medicare for all is the portability argument. Our system of tying your insurance to your job is archaic. It is inefficient. It doesn't work. And the uninsured end up at the ER with healthcare issues that are more expensive to treat because they waited too long to get care. Just remember. Someone always pays. When hospitals have to treat indigent patients, we pay. When hospitals go bankrupt and have to close their doors in rural areas, we pay. We culd very easily fix our healthcare system. We know what we have to do. But we lack the will. The stakeholders who have a disproportionate amount of influence are blocking any attempts to do what is necessary.

Conservatives will never rise up against their billionaire/CEO/techbro overloads, R188. That group has replaced Jesus for them.

I don't buy that, R190.

Health insurance company executives are taking no chances.

I work part time at a sports arena in the VIP area. Last night, one of the guests was a female executive for a health insurance company. She came in with a bodyguard.

You don’t have to buy it, R191. We’re waiting to hear how you’ll change it.

But you’ll need some kind of coverage in the meantime and it’s not coming from Washington. And even if it did, could you afford to buy it?

Obamacare has made it possible for individuals to buy coverage. A friend just paid her first premium for a mid-level individual plan in Massachusetts, where health insurance is mandated. Her premium costs her $1080 a month or just shy of $13,000 a year. She’s between $200,000/yr jobs and can afford it. Not everyone can.

[quote] I'm not seeing that as a reflexive reaction, [R184].

It's totally a reflexive reaction. The first things people come up with are why single payer can't possibly work in the US-- Who's going to pay for it? Taxes will go up! Waits to see providers are too long! We're too varied a country!

---ALL OF IT BS but fed to the public over decades by the insurance industry

R193, you're waiting to hear how I will change it? What are you asking, exactly? Look, healthcare doesn't work for practically anyone. And if Dump cuts the ACA, it will all get worse (among everything else). Yes, people (especially the Dump voters) are going to see deprivations they never dreamed of. And that will make a difference in their attitude. People go from president to the other, and as soon as ther shit hits the fan (as it did with Dump abd his bungling/inaction over COVID) people react.

And that also answers R194.

[quote] Her premium costs her $1080 a month or just shy of $13,000 a year. She’s between $200,000/yr jobs and can afford it. Not everyone can.

If you cant afford it, you get federal subsidies to get you to the point that the cost is less than 9% of your income. Apparently that's the magic number of insurance affordability.

Yes, the ACA is great for getting people onto an insurance plan. But deductibles can be sky-high (mine is $9,500 with a $1,000/month premium), so a lot of people are still skipping medical care. At least preventive care is mostly covered (though my doctor's office has managed to tack on"administrative fees" for screenings and immunizations.

That needs to be fixed. Unfortunately, Trump will "fix" it by allowing plans that are appreciably cheaper but don't cover much and send medical bankruptcies skyrocketing again.

[quote] But deductibles can be sky-high (mine is $9,500 with a $1,000/month premium), so a lot of people are still skipping medical care.

That was by design. Instead of high monthly premiums, the cost was shifted to the deductible to use when you're actually sick

Nice to know that $1,000 isn't a "high" monthly premium.

My premium with ACA is around 950.00 per month, with subsidies I pay 267.00. I'm two years away from Medicare.

This story is really big. Even the ladies on The View we're discussing it, and they rarely discuss anything about what happens in New York City the very place that they broadcast from

were discussing

Execution or assassination? Call it what you want. For me, I call it a good start.

FWIW, I'm getting "Brian" vibes from the CCTV still of the suspected gunman.

Maybe his ex-wife hired a hitman .. for many possible reasons.

Again with the wife (she's not the ex-wife, R205).

I could see the guy getting away with it, whoever he is.

Aside from the planning/premeditation, which was meticulous but probably not genius-level, he got lucky evading the scene quickly on the bike without being tackled or chased. Post-getaway, now that he might be trying to disappear into the NYC mass [if he's still in NYC], he's aided by the outpouring of public sentiment against the target. Even if he's not regarded as a perverse/dark "folk hero," there's been enough "just sayin'"-type reaction that I think it aids his flight. People are not scared of this guy and don't perceive him as an imminent threat to public safety, as they would some other armed-and-dangerous suspect-at-large. All of these factors are tailwinds that, taken together, could keep him from being apprehended quickly.

If I saw a guy fitting the perp's description streaking across my lawn, on the run Ferris Bueller-style, would I call the cops? I probably would, but not right away. I'd finish making dinner and watch "Jeopardy!" first.

He shouldn't have flirted, that will be his downfall. The lure of pussy, tale as old as time.

R208 is the world's leading authority on the lure of pussy

I sincerely doubt that the front desk woman was flirting - don't they need to check ID visually and also get a clip on security?

Sounds more like standard procedure than anything else, but 'flirting' makes a much better headline.

I seem to remember an article that said that exact thing, R210, that she asked him to show his face so she could compare it with the ID he used and let the camera get a good shot. It obviously didn’t hurt that he gave her a dazzling smile but she was at work and doing her job. Which doesn’t mean they couldn’t flirt, just that flirting wasn’t where his focus was.

She was flirting bitch, I was THERE. She spread her legs and displayed her labia to him, and he took his mask down for a better look at her pink taco.

Surveillance footage obtained by the Washington Post shows the suspect leaving midtown Manhattan's 57th Street subway station for the F train at 6:15 a.m. ET. The suspect's clothing matches the images released Wednesday by the NYPD.

After leaving the station, the suspect is next seen at 6:17 a.m. inside a Starbucks coffee shop on Sixth Avenue.

Police said the shooter arrived at the scene on foot just several minutes before Thompson showed up outside the Hilton Hotel. Thompson was visiting New York City from Minnesota for an investor conference.

R192 - it's a shame she wasn't identified and booed.

All of these assholes walk around with no shame. They should be shunned and publicly reprimanded everywhere they go.

Make them famous and have them deal with rational reactions from people.

The suspect then approached Thompson from behind and shot him in the back and leg, police said. The gun appeared to be fitted with a silencer and seemed to jam, a law enforcement official told CNN, but the suspect was able to fix it and continued firing.

The shooter headed north on foot before getting on a bicycle and riding toward Central Park, where he was last seen.

During an NYPD press conference on Wednesday, police initially reported the suspect had taken an electric Citi Bike, but the company, owned by Lyft, later said the suspect had not used one of those bikes.

Sources told ABC News that the shooter was also caught on a surveillance camera outside a public housing project on the Upper West Side, at 5 a.m. Wednesday morning. The NYPD has now reportedly sought a search warrant for that location.

One thing I know is this guy is effing brilliant. My personal feeling is this is a vigilante whose smarts far outweigh those who are trying to find him. I truly don’t think this was a hit, but I guess I could be wrong. The planning is unreal, I would not be surprised if he left fake evidence to mislead investigators. He won’t be found. So many clues as to what he was doing beforehand but very few re what he did afterward.

R216 I think they'll find him. Whether they find him alive is another story.

My one thought, r217, is the NYP are holding some things close to the vest. There are only little bits of info as to where the gunman went afterwards. So either he made a very good getaway or the NYP aren’t telling us everything they know.

R218 That's my thought, too. I think they've either figured out who he is or are very close to finding out and don't want to give any information away that might allow him to slip out of their grasp.

I hope he's laying low in some predetermined place to hide out for a few months.

I want this headline to keep going - these newscycles run out in a few days and then everyone forgets and moves on.

Then when it does go to trial - I want those defense attorneys to bring out ALL THE CASES and testimony - and force those executives to admit they purposefully delayed and denied coverage.

The arc of this is going to be HUGE. This guy is a genius - he may spend the rest of his life in prison still - but a life well lived.

Belly laffs re R212 post.

[Quote] Then when it does go to trial - I want those defense attorneys to bring out ALL THE CASES and testimony - and force those executives to admit they purposefully delayed and denied coverage.

Sorry, but … what?

I'm glad he didn't leave some sort of dumbass manifesto, to cheapen the act. The writing on the bullet casings was simple and perfect. No need for ridiculous lectures or batshittery when the reasoning is beyond obvious.

I hope our killer gets away with it.

R223 - the defense attorney's for the killer could bring forth a line of questioning to all the company executives regarding their policies to deny, defend and depose.

It's relevant to motivation. Then they will all have to admit all of the cases that they denied for profit purposes - they'll be force to admit the 90% error rate in the AI they built to deny coverage.

A lot of great attorneys are going to RUN to defend this guy. It's going to be AWESOME.

A $10K reward offered by the NYPD for a guy who “earned” $10 million per year? You’d think his wealthy wife would chip in a few bucks.

Well, New York is a non-death-penalty state, so if the guy is caught, convicted, and sentenced to life, I'm assuming health care comes with that. Could be a win-win for him.

There is no extradition treaty with Amurica in Montenegro. Maybe he is there. It can be quite pleasant...

It's been more than 48 hrs, and no suspect apprehended yet. If this goes on through the weekend I'm going to say he might never be caught. Any DNA left behind - the starbucks cup, burner phone, etc - I would bet is planted or fake to throw off the cops.

No one has come forward yet to ID the assailant, even though a very clear photo of his face was broadcast nationally. No neighbors, family, former classmates? I'm thinking foreigner who spoke English very well. He may be out of the country by now.

He may also have been ratted out to the NYPD already by someone who recognized him and now they’re trying to find him, R230, whether he’s here in the States or outside the country.

Maybe people know who he is, agree with his assessment and pretend they “don’t know nuthin”.

I think most of US, if we knew the dude irl, would ignore it and go about our business. He did us all a favor.

Especially for such a piddly “reward”.

If the assailant gets away, he probably was hired by a powerful entity at UH who didn’t want this CEO to talk to the DOJ, or someone burned by his insider trading. With all that footage and evidence left behind, you’d think he’d have to have professional help to disappear.

Reading his movements - getting off the train at 6:15 and THEN going to Starbucks at 6:17, I'm guessing he just got lucky getting to the Hyatt just in time to intercept Thompson. I thought he had stashed that bike, but there's no way he could have stashed it and have it still there when he needed it. I think his getting away like he did was just dumb luck.

R234 - God was on his side.

Even Satan's like - what the hell am I supposed to do with this guy? I've got people down here for just being gay for crying out loud. I've got babies who died before being baptized.

I got to take in this mass murderer as well?

OPEN SEASON: DEC 4, 2024 through ________?

This will be a big reason the Republicans will not kill medicare and medicaid or the affordable care act. They are scared now and this has sent a big chill down their greedy spines.

sizemeat verificata of the shooter?

R236 - but according to a lot of posts here (Charlie) and commentators (Sara from The View) - this killing was senseless and will change nothing. Cuz Charlie and Sara are such humanitarians - think of his CHILDREN!

If the shooter is so brilliant, why did he lift his mask at the hostel? The only way that would be brilliant is if he had facial prosthetics to throw off law enforcement and facial recognition software. Yes — the teeth kind of look fake, but can dentures alter a face that much?

Please.

Rethugs in Congress acted just as arrogant and entitled after Scalise was shot and almost died.

They think they’re untouchable. Even after J6, they don’t give a fuck.

The only thing they changed was to prelube for Hair Furor, traitor.

So strange he hasn't caught yet. We dont even have a name

Why is it strange, R241?

Not strange at all r241

With national attention on the matter, I would have expected the suspect captured by now.

r59

[quote] It's that the shooter didn't take it out on his family, employees of UH...

That will come later. Taking down this CEO required resources—someone needed to inform the shooter exactly when he would be on the street. The shooter's gun is rare and has a built-in silencer. He arrived on a Greyhound bus and stayed at a hostel, both of which have lenient ID requirements. As far as I know, the shooter vanished in Central Park, which could suggest the presence of a getaway car.

I can't think of a murder suspect in recent or distant memory who was as cheered on as this guy.

Not since Bonnie and Clyde.

If this takes off like school shootings, then killers will choose softer targets. For example, lower-level employees like the VP for Claim Denial for the Midwest or an office shooting. Some denied policyholders will die anyway, they may as well take one with them.

Let's not the 10%, the professional class that supports the 1%. They have become well-off--2 figure millionaires. Many specialize in the healthcare industry. So, a claim denied for experimental cancer treatment arrow → neighbor works in health care consulting → victim of opportunity for a sick person.

r244

[quote]With national attention on the matter, I would have expected the suspect captured by now.[/quote]

The true crime community thinks the police don't know much. Right now, they are just running the cameras backward. That's how they are finding the hostel, the Greyhound bus, etc.

A workplace shooting like that is not going to "take off" like you think, R248. It's the handful of people who create the policies that are causing the misery. Not the folks you mentioned. They have zero control over it all so killing them wouldn't make anyone a "hero" in the way some are seeing this guy. They'd just be another wack job killer.

r70 -- Love your signature. We now have a motto.

From Google AI

The Latin phrase closest to "Kill 'em all. Let their god sort them out" is "Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius", which translates to "Kill them. For the Lord knows who are His.". Explanation: This phrase is historically attributed to a Crusader leader during the Albigensian Crusade, where the idea was that even if innocent people were killed, God would be able to identify his true followers.

It so important we follow protocol. We a motto, a manifesto, etc.

[quote]So strange he hasn't caught yet. We dont even have a name

I thought his name was Doctor Sexy Beast?

r52

[quote] you would look at everything from individuals who have been turned down for insurance coverage and lost their spouse as a result of it [/quote]

Add in the laid-off and replaced with a 90% error rate AI, doctors who hate dealing with insurance companies, and the suspect pool is huge.

r250

I know the receptionist has no say. But desperate sick people who are going to die anyway may just do that.

R228, health care in prisons is terrible. They contract it out to providers like Wellpath who could teach big insurers a thing or two about deny and delay.

They basically provide just enough care to avoid getting in trouble.

Yes, r251, I specifically chose it for that reason. It was the Bishop of Le Puy, if I’m not mistaken.

Also vulgarly used in the military as “kill em all, let God sort em out”.

Or, also translated as “kill them all. God will know his own”.

I’m showing my geek here, so I will stop.

[quote] I can't think of a murder suspect in recent or distant memory who was as cheered on as this guy.

Me either. And I’m old af

The latest reporting is that they think he's out of NYC. Godspeed to him!

The Insurance Industry strikes back. They are afraid, very afraid.

Here are text messages from employees detailing their company's reactions.

There is also a company-wide letter from UHC explaining business security measures. The whole thread memes, etc.

UHC employees are being asked to sign a safety and solidarity pledge. I wish I knew how to post a picture b/c it has to be read. I like the part where all employees are asked to acknowledge that executives are the drivers of the business and key exemplars of leadership and professionalism.

This one is golden.

Reports are that after the shooting he took a taxi to the Port Authority bus terminal at 178th St and hightailed it out of town.

CVS joins United, Anthem, Aetna, Humana in removing executives' photos from their websites.

What’s the problem?

Well, that seals it, then.

My next cat will be named “Sir Andy Pussy”.

The cutie with the killer smile who united us all in these dark times.

Does this mean that rich people in NYC are no longer safe?

Time to move all activities to Satan's Island..

The smiling Starbucks person could be a woman. I don't think it's the same person as the shooter. Now, I do not think he was hired by some entity who wanted to stop his testimony. I think if this was a professional hit for business reasons they would have done it in a more secretive manner, not in front of the Hilton on the morning of the big corporate meeting. Now if this was a hire by his wife, or if it was a revenge killing or a political killing to make a point, than it makes more sense.

There have been alleged sightings of the killer all over the eastern US. This will shape up to be like the hunt for Andrew Cunanan in 1997, after he shot Armani in Miami and then went on the run; there were sightings everywhere even though he never left Florida. It was the top news story for several days, until they found him (dead).

They found the backpack.

^ Did he drop off the backpack next to a dead bear?

they were too cheap with security LOLOLOL

Heard on the news that they found his backpack!

How does the NYPD know that it is "the" backpack as opposed to "a" backpack?

have they found the backpack?

[quote] Heard on the news that they found his backpack!

I read it at R269.

No news on Don Juan De Healthcare?

The smiling picture of the guy in the hoodie looks a great deal like Jake Gyllenhaal c. 2005. Very eerie in fact

I’m not that backpack, please no flash photography.

NYPD’s finest

Wouldn't it be funny if someone went out and bought a similar looking backpack and dropped it there after the first search just to fuck with the police?

I wonder if our boo rode the merry go round before leaving the park?

OK, I'll be the pedant.

[quote] Wouldn't it be funny if someone went out and bought a similar looking backpack and dropped it there after the first search just to fuck with the police?

lol it would. Let's say they buy a similar a looking backpack and then write or type some kind of bullshit mainfesto to make the cops think it was the shooter's backpack.

Jimmmmaaayyyy!!!!

Apparently pharmacies are reporting that no medicines are being denied today

apparently there's no link either R285

CCTV footage from the Port of Los Angeles this afternoon!

Status of backpack please. Thank you.

Broken knapsack!

It was a veterinary gun?

First off, I had no idea such a thing existed.

Secondly, why would he use such a weapon?

Thirdly, why the fuck are there veterinary guns?

Is it a backpack or a knapsack? Merry go round or carousel?

R290

Veterinary guns?

They shoot horses, don't they?

Only the olds say knapsack. It's a backpack, ffs.

Actually, are we sure it wasn't a haversack?

Backpack recovered and returned to its rightful owner.

I think that backpack should become a status symbol to wear is solidarity against these evil healthcare fuckers

[quote] Actually, are we sure it wasn't a haversack?

A haversack and some trepidation.

Is it me, or does the shooter kinda resemble Radames Pera from Little House?

He actually does, R298.

Sure, Jan.

The Chief of Detectives with the NYPD Joseph Kenny has revealed that they believe the assassin is either a disgruntled ex-employee or an angry client.

[quote] Is it me, or does the shooter kinda resemble Radames Pera from Little House?

Not to me. I still think he looks like Tim-O-Tay.

Joseph Kenny should have checked out DL. We had that figured out in the first 16 posts on thread one, R301.

“Snitches get…one star reviews. Since snitches aren’t covered by my health insurance any more,” one peeved critic wrote on the HI New York City Hostel’s Google page.

The Upper West Side boardinghouse began receiving a barrage of negative responses after police released photos Thursday of the unmasked suspect, seen smiling while apparently “flirting” with a receptionist at the front desk, according to sources.

One user praised the rooming house for accepting a phony ID — while giving it five stars.

“RIP ceo of insurance company. This hotel has KILLER service! Fake Ids accepted!” the person quipped.

“Great location next to Healthcare conferences!”

In another scathing one-star review, a Google poster accused the staff of snitching on the suspected killer.

I hope he doesn't end up caught all because he lowered his mask to flirt.

according to the news report I heard, the check in person asked him to lower mask so they could check if he matched the pic on his ID

R290, a veterinary gun, it turns out, is quiet, so it can be used without panicking other animals.

The backpack is an old model designed for photographers. The shooter probably wanted it because of the padding (for camera gear) and got it used.

NYPD is probably slow to disclose things so as not to alert the shooter, but if he's smart is in Canada or in a far part of the country by now.

wow, I just googled vet gun and it looks like the one in the video!

R302, Which is why I picked TC to star in the movie!

[quote] Which is why I picked TC to star in the movie!

Picked where? Is there a poll?

No, it's my Post R/94 imagining the movie in the "FOREIGN ASSASSIN" thread.

R268.....Andrew Cunanan didn't kill Armani. He killed Gianni Versace.

[Quote] [R290], a veterinary gun, it turns out, is quiet, so it can be used without panicking other animals.

Oh my god, I thought it was a gun you use on your vet if he tells you that your dog needs to be put to sleep!

I think that solidarity pledge letter is a fake, rage bait r259.

A disgruntled employee makes sense. Because they would be familiar with the annual meeting and know it was at the Hilton. Might have even picked up gossip about the CEO to know when he was arriving.

But if it was a possible disgruntled employee they would have a name by now and it would have leaked. So I have to lean towards an outsider. No one seems to know who it is.

[quote]…a veterinary gun, it turns out, is quiet, so it can be used without panicking other animals.

In other words: it’s useless.

The cops brought the backpack to the Lost and Found in hopes that the runaway assassin will come by to retrieve it.

Come on Don Juan!

[Quote] is either a disgruntled ex-employee

So many assumptions!!! I mean, what if he was a gruntled ex-employee???

In the aftermath of the Delphi murders, so many people speculated the police knew who it was but were just waiting to make their case airtight before revealing the names.

Years later, a temp found the name misfiled in police headquarters, and suddenly, they knew who he was.

School shooting is so yesterday. If school shooters want to make a name for themselves they will have to go after the 1%

The smiling guy is not the perp. Different facial structure. Different hoodie. They threw in a photo of an actor to fool people.

r322, could you please repost?

The police threw in a fake photo to fool people? What would be the purpose of that (other than stirring the loins of every gay and straight gal in the country)? Why would they have people hunting for some innocent schmoe and tie up resources if they didn't believe that person was involved.

I think he is pretty sophisticated. The exit was very well planned. He will be a huge folk hero if he gets away with it.

[quote]The police threw in a fake photo to fool people? What would be the purpose of that…

Maybe they’ve been screwed by their health insurers, like the rest of us.

The composite sketch:

Is r329 serious? It looks female to me. A mother who lost a child tried to pass herself off?

In 2017....

R329, I recognize him!!!!

R329 He was handsomer than that in the smiling photo at the hostel desk.

I cannot stop laughing at r329’s picture.

What the actual? He looks “special”

The composite was drawn by a sketch artist whose mother was denied coverage for her chemo.

Guys, I'm really starting to think it's a female. The smiling hostel picture is borderline IMO.

R329 they wanted to hedge their bets by including all races in one pic

BOLO 🚨 ALERT: If you’ve seen this man 😶 or woman 🫥 call someone sometime soon

[quote] Guys, I'm really starting to think it's a female.

Timothee Chalamet still fits.

Well gurls, the FBI is on it...and the reward is now $50,000. IMO even that is a paltry sum. We have been hearing about inflation for months. Did these people not get the memo? This was a CEO of a huge huge company. If they can't offer up $100,000 fuck them.

Hero/Shero...it doesn't matter.

Even doctors are cheerful about this CEO getting killed.

I wonder if the release about authorities having “reason to believe” the shooter’s left New York is a feint.

They are perhaps thinking if he hasn’t, sees it, and thinks authorities are focused elsewhere, he’ll make a mistake - such as appearing less fully disguised on NYC’s camera infested streets - and be tracked and captured.

lol at the sketch r329 posted. Even the FBI doesn’t seem to want to catch the shooter.

I actually believe he has left the area. For that very reason. Too many cameras. I wonder if he is from Minnesota. I also wonder if he did a test run and cased out the environment several times before he did the deed. It was planned out, that's obvious. I'm still curious about the phone they found. Even if it was a burner he should not have left it behind. Anything he discards is evidence including the water bottles. The guy was silly to go to Starbucks to get energy bars and water. The Korean stores or bodegas or a fucking drug store would have been sufficient. And he could have got them in a different neighborhood altogether. Dumping the backpack without destroying it, and whatever was in it, was another dumb move. If he'd changed jackets and those distinctive shoes, in Central Park, he could have walked out and caught a cab and no one would have noticed.

I wonder if he was wearing one of those realistic facial masks…to throw people off.

This guy is shaping up to be the DB Cooper of the 21st century.

He did walk out of Central Park without notice. Duh.

[Quote]Even doctors are cheerful about this CEO getting killed.

hopefully not doctors who perform unnecessary or bothced surgeris and violate their Hippocratic Oath

^^^surgeries

^^^botched

If the shooter was a disgruntled employee, you would think a fellow UHC employee would have recognized his picture and identified him by now.

UHC employees have no love for their former boss:

“Thompson took massive pay outs while we at the bottom had to work harder and longer,” one employee told me. “Meanwhile Witty brought in AI to learn from us. So they have the money for AI and massive bonuses, but we’re still using software that is massively behind the industry standard. They’ve been lying to us.”

Resentment for Thompson was widespread at the company, the employee said, citing an internal company announcement about his death that only garnered 28 comments despite being seen by 16,000 employees.

Interesting the first thing the CEOs have been doing is taking down their pictures from corporate websites. While this was panicky and pointless, it shows a nerve has been hit. They have had wealth and power, but not the fame and the issues that go with it that politicians and stars have. Now they will be spending a lot more on security, restricting their freedom of movement, looking over their shoulders and jumping when a door slams. It's not much, but it is something, till the next DDD happens.

Some of our resident DLers are really sarcasm challenged, eh, R329?

Or else they're just plain stupid -- I can't decide which.

[Quote] I wonder if the release about authorities having “reason to believe” the shooter’s left New York is a feint.

No, it’s not.

That would be a very unwise thing to do. New Yorkers would feel massively betrayed to learn the police had been lying about an assassin in their midst.

My NYer friends are all cheering for him to get away. A couple of them work in health care. This guy was genius for going after the CEO, only.

Will CIGNA re-think it's policies or just pretend to?

"How Cigna Saves Millions by Having Its Doctors Reject Claims Without Reading Them"

What if he’s a self proclaimed type of Dexter?

He has serial killer urges, finally succumbed to them, yet vowed to only murder people who he believes are morally bankrupt scourges upon society?

[QUOTE]New Yorkers would feel massively betrayed to learn the police had been lying about an assassin in their midst.

Are you kidding? Were New Yorkers in the '80s freaked out when Paul Castellano was the victim of a mob hit? The hit man and driver were never caught and likely continued to live amongst the masses. Yet, NYC managed without clutching its pearls. Were people back then tougher?

R329, OMG! The gunman is Pete Davidson!

If this person is young and was never fingerprinted, and is not in any DNA database, they may never catch him. I also doubt he met with anyone while in New York. He was on a mission and got out. I am dubious the phone will reveal anything.

[quote] I am dubious the phone will reveal anything.

How about the backpack?

The backpack may give them more DNA but it’s useless unless they can connect it to a specific individual. He was very careful to only use cash, etc.

[quote] The backpack may give them more DNA but it’s useless unless they can connect it to a specific individual.

I hope they can find the backpack. Status update on backpack?

Can they get him through an Ancestry.com match to a relative? I know someone who found her birth mom that way.

See r269, r365.

They may not be able to catch this specific person through ancestry.com. But given the number of people who have provided their information to those services, it is much easier for police to narrow down into a family using DNA of somebody who has not provided their information directly to one of the services.

I’m still amazed that our boo hasn’t been caught yet

I'm still not 'yay, murder' but it's interesting to learn more about Thompson. Everyone hates insurance companies but people were very quick to cheer.

Do you wonder why they were very quick to cheer, R370?

Yes r370, it’s a shame we only got to know him after he’d had holes blown in him. Life’s a funny thing.

What are you talking about, R372? We didn't get to know him. If you mean know who he is by name, who cares? And no, life is not a funny thing.

He seems to have good teeth so we know he’s not British.

Oh my God - THIS! Former police commissioner thinks the CEO hired someone himself to kill him!

That's some Chief Wiggums police work.

Shameless. Just wow.

R365, they found the backpack yesterday, they are testing it as we speak

[quote] it’s a shame we only got to know him after he’d had holes blown in him.

That wasn't my point at all R372. I'm not happy to meet him, I just wanted to know more. Why this one guy right now?

Well, the cops claim they have hundreds of tips/leads....

R373 sounds fun

How come nobody has come foreward to say it's their so and so? Maybe he really is a foreigner!

He used a fake NJ i.d. someone was asking up thread

R373 doesn't traffic in meaningless cliches. And yes, I am fun.

r338, MTG?

I'm sure they have his DNA, if backpack contained clothes like underwear.

What kind of face mask was he wearing?

A baaaaaaackpaaaack?!

Are you hoping he's caught or escapes? I can't tell what the public consensus is.

R386 - it doesn't matter really - I hope he gets away with it but people have loose lips and he'll eventually get caught.

The trial will be AMAZING - more people will be intently following it than the OJ trial. All of the execs will have to state that they denied coverage as policy for profit - and more shenanigans.

It's really the feel good story of 2024.

Does anyone know the brand of the backpack? I’d love to buy one on eBay.

[quote] Are you hoping he's caught or escapes? I can't tell what the public consensus is.

A requested thread that poses that question.

Chanel

Maybe this is it.

R386, you really can't tell that practically everyone commenting on social media is on his side? You sound as credulous as the gray lady NY Times.

He had help 100%

Someone knew of his plans. Who did he speak to on cell phone before killing?

The bike was planted there by somebody.

Whoever helped him also deserves our admiration, then.

We don’t want to release that now,” the mayor said when asked if police have the killer’s name. “If we do, we are basically giving a tip to the person we are seeking and we do not want to give him an upper hand at all. Let him continue to believe he can hide behind the mask. We revealed his face. We’re going to reveal who he is and we’re going to bring him to justice.”

The mayor also commended the “tri-state law enforcement partnership” for

He's a professional hitman. He is from Georgia born outside of the US. He was paid to deliver a message from a disgruntled ex employee. He will be on the run for a few weeks. He's in another country. He'll be known but he won't be caught. Public support will see him as a hero. Other CEOs will get more security. People will be hopeful this is like the Purge for evil corporate greed but not much will change on a larger scale. People will eventually vote in some better health care. In the coming decade.

The family that lost a father will be disgusted with the online sentiment.

I making all of this up.

[quote] He is from Georgia born outside of the US.

Soviet Georgia!

[quote]Does anyone know the brand of the backpack? I’d love to buy one on eBay.

I sense the start of a solidarity meme. The backpack makers surely won't be able to keep up with demand.

r397 is Miss Nostradamus.

If he were from another country, anyone who was interviewed by police who'd encountered him (the receptionist behind the desk at the hostel whom he smiled at, for instance) would have mentioned it. Unless of course he was astute at accents.

Here you go, R388. I don’t know about eBay but Amazon has ‘em. In a variety of subdued colors!

[quote]...we do not want to give him an upper hand at all.

He already has 'an upper hand.' All that careful planning (despite speculative errors with discarded stuff) will hardly have neglected an aftermath strategy. Manhunt finessed at inception.

The Wayback Machine remembers.

He's had enough time to be quite far away or easily in Canada.

R354 Sometimes there’s a Facebook vibe on DL’s true crime threads. I didn’t read the room.

Eric Adams is a notoriously bad liar. And what does he mean by "We revealed his face." HE revealed his face, as in our boo. I can't wait until that cunt is in jail, and I mean Adams.

He doesn't know the guys name. Honestly, if the guy was a known entity right now it would have leaked from someone close to him. And the cops would sell that info in a heartbeat. If they haven't released his name it's because they don't know his name. From reading the employee responses to learning of the CEO death, I get the impression he was slime in many ways including not treating employees right, not investing in the company via software upgrades, and then we hear about his insider trading and the bonuses and all that shit. That company sounds like a hell hole. To say the guy was not liked is an understatement. If anything his employees were probably reporting him to the DoJ.

R375 meet R300

I wonder what name was used on fake I.d.

[quote] I wonder what name was used on fake I.d.

Tim O'Tay.

R410 "Not the UHC Shooter"

Maybe I watch too many detective shows but is it possible to track the backpack to place of purchase to find out who bought it? Was he wearing traceable shoes?

R413 Theoretically, it can be done, but it's a painstakingly long and arduous process. And even if they do manage to find out where the backpack was purchased, there's no guarantee they'll find out that it was purchased by the shooter.

[quote] Was he wearing traceable shoes?

They're capable of leaving prints.

Is the shooter cut or uncut?

I still could write a check but this is an improvement.

CNN — As the investigation into the fatal shooting of a health care executive in Manhattan enters its fourth day, the FBI says it is offering a reward of up to $50,000 for information leading to an arrest and conviction of the gunman.

There’s still time to mask up, and head on over.

God, R419, I love that!

That is some sick shit, R419. But maybe it's a misguided attempt for people to show their contempt not just forthe 1% but for the Musk Trump future.

[quote] That is some sick shit

MARY, R421!

I now know how the political uprisings started. You think they're crazy but enough is enough.

Our country's Wild West was built by the way of the gun.

Rise of the Planet of the Underinsured

Coming soon to a platform near you

R420, wasn’t someone complaining on one of these threads that New Yorkers must feel “betrayed” because the killer hadn’t been caught yet? Apparently that’s not the prevailing mood.

What’s the general thought on crimes that are not solved within 24 hours? Don’t most of them go unsolved?

The FBI has added $50,000 to the reward pot.

R427 is not R340 who is also not R417.

The killer is a murderer, not an "assassin" or an "executioner." Regardless of denotations, the connotations in terms of the victim's station don't fit.

Well, maybe "executioner."

Sure they do. The terms fit, use them.

Get a life R428.

Guys, do we know of the shooter had quite nice tits? Nobody has mentioned this yet, but I think it is important.

[quote] Guys, do we know of the shooter had quite nice tits?

I'd also like to know whether he has a nice ass or a scrawny ass like Tim-O-Tay.

Well, he got away on an eBike, so did he have Ayman thighs?

Too bad he’s not gay. They could release the dick pics on his phone and I’m sure someone would recognize him.

It’s getting more play than Trump. Says something. The media is already pretending Pete Hegseth is okay. Don’t capitulate on addiction issues for military.

An accident? Are the jars alright?

He looks almost Michael Jackson eyeliner territory or who knows, maybe his operation was denied.

R425, that's definitely not the prevailing mood at all--not in NYC nor apparently anywhere else!

A friend and I toasted Boo with wine, wishing him Godspeed to safety!

If they capture him in California they have Blue Shield.

Time to call in the big gun.

[quote]backpack contained clothes like underwear

Will this be available for purchase?

Where did you read or hear about the backpack containing underwear?

The shooter should have dumped the backpack, opened it up and threw it in the lake in Central Park. That way it would have been so completely contaminated they would have got no DNA from it.

Maybe, R445. Our Boo made a few mistakes. I wish her well.

[quote]He's professional hitman. He is from Georgia born outside of the US. He was paid to deliver a message from a disgruntled ex employee, He will be on the run for a few weeks. He's in another country. He'll be known but he won't be caught. Public support will see him as a hero. Other CEOs willget more security. People will be hopeful this is like the Purge for evil corporate greed but not much will change on a larger scale. People will eventually vote in some better health care. In the coming decade.The family that lost a father will be disgusted with the online sentiment.

*kisses doll*

Guy on TikTok is saying the shooter's name is Robert Paulson.

[quote] Guy on TikTok is saying the shooter's name is Robert Paulson.

Does he have gynecomastia?

wasn't Robert Paulson a character in Fight Club?

This Robert Paulson?

He had Monopoly money in the backpack. I love his sense of humor.

So he had a jacket in the backpack? Interesting. I wonder if they actually saw him or just assume he went to the Port Authority terminal to get on a bus?

Also, I wanted to say, if he came from Georgia, Atlanta area, it's possible he was from South America. We have a ton of Latinos here.

Meat Loaf is resurrected, lost weight, and is shooting CEOs with a veterinarian gun?

2024 is LIT!

Robert Paulson from Fight Club?

Actually, his name is Tyler Durden.

Yes, R360. We were tougher back then.

When I describe to people what living in NYC was like, I tell them that as soon as I’d reach a crowded subway station, I’d immediately have to go on offensive rather than be forced to become defensive, because NYC was a zoo back then. You’d be an idiot to not get into ultra bitch face mode when commuting, because you understood that ANYTHING could happen unless you looked like someone not to be fucked with.

Eventually, New York became one of the safest cities in the world, so younger folks weren’t too worried about the possibility of being robbed at gun point or pick pocketed in a crowded subway car.

It’s all about context.

Cross check the amount of Monopoly money that's in the bag with a balance United Healthcare DENIED paying.

March the totals.

Run the matches against Hoodie Bae.

Or, don't. I hope he escapes.

*match

R453: People from Atlanta are so fucking stupid.

These school shooters could be national heroes if they would just change their targets.

R375, that possibility isn’t as far fetched as you think it is.

He & his CEO colleagues were being investigated by the DoJ for insider trading, so he may have figured he was better off dead in order to provide for his boys.

I doubt this, since he probably wouldn’t have had to pay over the top fines, however, depending on his personal finances, he may have known that his estate had more money than he currently did.

Exactly R462. This wasn't some good, well-meaning person of virtue. The dead CEO ticks all the boxes for ruthlessly screwing other people over in every way possible to enrich himself and those around him.

I looked it up and from his CEO job alone he earned $10.2 million per year. Big money. Big responsibility. Big risks. Big consequences.

It's no secret that US healthcare is in deep crisis. Perhaps this will act as a catalyst for the industry to take a good look at the way it operates. If not... this may not be the only CEO assassination...

"NYPD says belonged to the UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting suspect reportedly held only two items: a jacket and Monopoly money"

He's fucking with them.

That’s great.

The NY police used a robot to pick up the backpack and even collected soil around it. Nonetheless Don Juan may never be identified. I think he may have outsmarted them because they have no name 4 days later.

People should mail Monopoly money to UnitedHealth headquarters as "donations" to the Widow Thompson.

That would be a nice touch R467.

Does what the cop is saying, that they have Boo’s name and aren’t releasing it because they want him to think he’s safer than he is, make any sense at all?

Isn’t that statement alone going to rocket around the internet in such a way that Boo can’t miss it? The cop would have to assume he has no internet access whatsoever, and not even one friend who knows what he did and stands ready to help him to the extent that they let him know his name is known.

They don't have his name R469. They've got nothing except a few images. If they had his name it would be all over the Internet as you say.

R469, it makes no sense at all. If they don’t name him it’s less likely a random person will be able to turn him in.

Although this former FBI head thinks they are getting closer, he was literally laughing at Adams' bragging they had Boo's name as an idiotic and counterproductive thing, as it will tip Boo off.

Extra enjoyment at the 1:06 mark as the anchor goes from confused to smiling when she realizes the camera is on her. LMFAO.

"We got his name off the backpack - it's Eddie Bauer".

They have no name. They may have had several names that looked promising but were dead ends. They may have leads and tips they are running down. But right now they have no name. They're just making noise because they want it to look like they're making progress when the reality is that it has been 4 days now and they haven't got their man. This is 2024. They have cameras and technology and all kinds of shit and yet a man was gunned down in Manhattan early one morning, and the shooter got away. They will find him. Eventually. But any fool knows if a name were leaked it would be a game changer, so they're blowing smoke, because they have nothing.

Wow, what happened to the gun?

Is he able to conceal the gun on his body?

I mean, he was in NYC for a few days, he wore the same clothes? Ewww

Could be anywhere R476.

I think he's in Canada by now and probably on way to a country with no extradition treaty with USA

Is Eric Adam’s an embarrassment for New York? If he says they know his name but got that wrong .. most people are fired. Just saying.

Before the shooting, the still-unidentified suspect stayed at a hostel in the Upper West Side but kept his mask up – even in his room, according to the alleged shooter’s roommates.

“[The roommates] said he didn’t speak. He kept his mask on even when he was eating. He would pull the mask down to take a bite,” Kenny said

Not only is Adams an idiot and an embarrassment, R481, but he's an actual criminal who's not long for the mayoralty.

This mask isn't the professional model.

R473, Are you sure it isn't L.L. Bean?

His name is PUDDIN' TAME!!!!!

NYPD on the job

He's hawt. Looks middle Eastern.

Definitely not Russian. They've all got that pronounced potato face thing going on for them.

Much, much better looking than Ratboy.

I liked the shot better in which he wasn’t prettied up. He looks a little plasticized in this one.

Go after the real Ratboy next whoever you are!

Here's the shooting...

They have more pictures of him! In a cab!

Look at those eyebrows!!

New pics up on the Daily Fail!

Waiting for pics of him sitting in the audience at the Audra Gypsy.

He’s definitely got eyebrow game.

[quote]New pics up on the Daily Fail!

Strong young Sacha Baron Cohen energy!

I still fret our Boo will be caught because of the mistakes he made, but maybe he'll wriggle out and get to safety. That would be another fuck you to the detestable, murderous health insurance mafia.

This guy has money. The green jacket is Levi’s and retails for $225. The blue jacket he changed into looks new.

Hoodie Bae has caused many male Redditers to experience their first gay crushes, as per their posts.

[QUOTE]One of the images show the killer - who has a fresh coat and face mask on - walking down a sidewalk, while the other sees him cowering in the back of a cab.

Cowering? Oh, come on DM.

This is not a coward.

"Cowering".

K.

So NYPD have maybe 30 minutes of his movements after the murder on CCTV now? There’s a chance some footage will be overwritten before they catch up with him at this rate.

R501- Yeah BIG money!!!!

Thanks R493. Jeeze it was all quite leisurely done. At least 2 witnesses within 10 feet.

Why don't they ever mention if he had a foreign accent? That seems like it would be helpful to know.

Is he an illegal or not? I need to know if I need to stop cheering for him and start rooting for the popo to fill him full of lead, if he's one of those illegals! Who knows, if he's an illegal he might be headed over to my trailer park right now to rape me and then take my job!

If they didn't, I assume he didn't.

That was for R509.

Just imagine what voir dire would have to be like. And given the how the practices of the insurance industry and how they’ve harmed people there’s no way a jury convicts this guy even if he’s apprehended.

I'm not R509 but he might have been faking an American accent R511.

Robin Hood.

Robin Hoody, r515.

About the accent, it would have been a defining feature, so I think, if he had one, the police would have released the information, right? We know there are *a lot* of details the NYCPD are keeping close to its chest to preserve the integrity of the investigation.

I'm wondering what they might be, but accent doesn't quite fit the bill... Unless, the PD doesn't want vigilanteism, which doesn't make sense in this case. Folks from both the left and the right might line up to hand him roses before scorn or deportation.

The backpack was filled with monopoly money.

Police now say they know his name.

I wish the media would stop with the "assassinated" and "assassin."

SAY HIS NAME!!!

He is the Kwisatch Haderach, that's his name!

They were dragging the lake in Central Park. I think it finally occurred to them he may have tossed the gun in the lake. LOL! Taking the bus made it easier for him to get into town with his gun. R488, his eyes are too round, his nose is too broad and his eyebrows are too heavy...otherwise that's a perfect match!

Kwisatz Haderach Abednego

IMO staying at the hostel was his biggest risk. Eating, sleeping, showering, interacting with other guests, all posed a hazard as far as identifying him. If he was able to successfully evade detecting at the hostel that's a pretty remarkable achievement.

Dragging a lake full of brackish water is a big undertaking. Lakes are very heavy.

Indeed, R524.

R517, i know, right?

Is there a link verifying that the police know his name?

They know his name, but they can’t beat his game

Robin Healthcare

He will be found. It's too big of a case to let go. Makes the FBI look bad.

Parker Brothers should make a new board game based on this.

💯, R530. The Feds never drop the ball on a high-profile case.

"The NYPD has 200 images of the UnitedHealthcare CEO suspect, expert says"

R533, if that's true they must feel like they know him at this point. I probably watch too many crime thrillers, but we need to make a movie of this one and at the outset I will suggest we totally ban Timothee from casting. I want Pedro Pascal to play the lead detective. Kevin Hart can be Mayor Adams.

Wow, 200 images!

There's no way he's in USA now.

R533 - 200 images - look, you can have 20 images from the same location of him walking down a street - all grainy, with his hoodie up and a mask.

That doesn't mean shit. They're not 200 unique different images - most likely.

My question is why was he carrying Monopoly money?

He's toying with them!

They've got bubkes.

[quote] My question is why was he carrying Monopoly money?

He killed Milburn Pennybags first and stole his wallet.

He wanted to buy "Park Place" but they sent him to Baltic Avenue!!

If they have 200 images, they probably all look the same. A slim guy who may be Middle Eastern wearing a mask. That doesn't seem particularly helpful. Still waiting for Mayor Adams to announce his name and location, since he seems to know so much and is highly respected.

I always won at Monopoly when I played it with the others in foster care.

I was always the Bank. The banker always wins!!

[quote] A slim guy who may be Middle Eastern wearing a mask.

So Bashar al-Assad ended up in New York!

Those cops don't know shit.

Yes, R545. He's changed his name to Basher.

He looks well hung.

Real NYers spell it correctly: bubkis. R540

Wanker, more like it.

R542: “ —I wanna be the Hat-Phillywhore”

You are the hat. The asshat.

Keyser Soze!

Thank You R551!!

The shooter looks relaxed and happy, both before and after the deed. He just murdered a guy and he is fine with it. He's either a psychopath or a professional hitman.

😘 r551.

Why is Devon Walker even on the show? He's barely featured, and when he is in a skit, he's never funny. It mystifies me that they nmoved him to the main cast this year.

Last night, I think the only skit he appeared in was the Italian restaurant commercial sketch, and all he did was use a clapboard in that one.

[quote] Last night, I think the only skit he appeared in was the Italian restaurant commercial sketch

Well he doesn't look like the killer.

R556 Oops! Wrong thread.

My apologies.

If you say so. 🙄

Bubkis is the preferred spelling from LA to NY to London to Tel Aviv. There are 10 dictionaries emphasizing bupkis to your one.

Even the OED uses bubkis…not that Oxford is anything special.

I agree, r554. Even if you justifiably hated Thompson and sought revenge, you'd still be nervous and jittery, especially if - like most people - you've never killed anyone before. Also, what kind of revenge is shooting someone in the back, so they would die in 20 minutes. It's not like Thompson learned a lesson this way.

We need Taxi Cab Confessional: Redux

The Adjuster 🔫😍

[Quote] Is Eric Adam’s an embarrassment for New York?

Fatsnout asking the really important questions as usual 🙄

[quote] Also, what kind of revenge is shooting someone in the back

The best kind. Served cold.

[Quote] Hoodie Bae

He’s our boo, you communist, not “hoodie bae,” WTAF

I think we should call him America's Sweetheart.

Thompson was just the likely conduit to send a message, R562. This is as much theatrics as crime.

A friend of mine who lives in Washington Heights says there’s a substantial police presence in Fort Tryon Park right now. There’s a huge bus terminal on 191st street, so they may be looking to see if he dumped more stuff in the park before getting on a bus there. Yesterday they were reviewing security camera footage from local businesses.

How many millions of dollars are being spent trying to apprehend this individual? Some levity would be appropriate.

This guy is now in Bolivia, or somewhere like that. He’s been three steps ahead of police this whole time. The backpack with the Monopoly money shows that.

I'm sure they showed the cab pictures to the hostel people confirmed it with them that it was him

R571 - many millions - and they won't stop. Meanwhile, there are hundreds of unsolved murders in NYC that they don't have time or resources for.

Plus the federal agencies involved.

That's the other thing that's pissing people off - how much money is being spent on this. He's dead. Give it to 2 police detectives like every other murder and move on.

Stop this expensive manhunt bullshit with overtime and resources. It's insane.

I just posted this in the other thread. Also want to add per R570, they are saying he boarded his exit bus up there. Port Authority Washington Heights? I had no idea there was a terminal up there. Anyway, thanks for the info. Keep us posted. They may find the bike or the gun up there.

Welp. So far the cops do not have the gun. The weapon used in the shooting. They do not have the bike and there is doubt that it was in fact an electric bike even though CNN keeps saying it was. They believe the bus he was on came from Atlanta, but do not know whether his personal trip originated in Atlanta. They have some photos they claim are of the shooter but everything from his bone structure (nose) to his eyes and brow is being disputed. Height too. They were not able to get the DNA they hoped for from the "evidence" he left behind and the single partial fingerprint on the bottle is smudged. They're hoping the public will claim him and name him because of the reward. My opinion? He is not an American. He was hired. The inscriptions on the bullet casings now seem to me to be a feint. I'm beginning to consider the wife even though at first I didn't. If not the wife someone who really wanted him dead. So if I'm working this case, I ask the question, "Cui bono?" Who benefits. That is my starting point. And I'd be going over his life with a microscope. Because the biggest piece of evidence is him, the d ead CEO.

—Anonymous

Which means it's bigger than it seems. They are not telling us everything.

Someone wanted him dead for some reason. Was he gonna squeal on the DOJ investigation on the whole industry?

The killer is very experienced. This was not a normal murder

Washington Hieghts may give us a clue. Because he may be heading to Canada or he is a Latino. Or some other swarthy race. he is also familiar with the NYC area, n'est pas?

He's already in Canada!

[quote] Or some other swarthy race.

Portuguese like Shawn Mendes who is Canadian.

He was under federal investigation, maybe he decided to flip and turn witness... someone found out and got him killed.

That's my guess

R577: NYC is not that complicated. He figured out that there is more than one intercity bus station---not rocket science. Just a good guidebook or some online independent traveler blog tips. Ditto, Central Park.

He could have gotten on the bus to NYC at any number of points including places with hub airports like DC. According to PATH website the furthest he could go direct from Washington Heights would be Buffalo and vicinity including a connecting service into Ontario from Niagara Falls. The terminal has a surprisingly limited range of services---I would have expected routes into the Hudson Valley and service to Montreal.

Didn't Buffalo and NY get a ton of snow in the past couple of days? Isn't there a small airport with commuter planes to Toronto and Montreal from NYC?

Imma say this again: These pictures are of two different guys.

I really think it's Shawn Mendes.

R574, This is what our taxes do for the ultra-wealthy in trouble. [See: Titan, Stockton Rush and the].

I finally realized what that fucked up composite sketch reminds me of.

This Isle of Lewis chess piece. Same vibe.

[quote] I really think it's Shawn Mendes.

He’s either Shawn Mendes or Timothee Chalamet- both very “ethnic” looking.

Monopoly money is very fitting as a message to vulture Capitalists that "we're on to you."

New thread for when this one is complete.

Thanks, R589

[quote] How many millions of dollars are being spent trying to apprehend this individual? Some levity would be appropriate.

R571, I think there's been plenty of levity displayed here. I think you meant a different word.

No. I meant levity.

R588 just arrived above ground—discovering Monopoly for the very first time.

He's The Jackal (original version with Edward Fox not Eddie Redmayne).

Which CEO is next?

TikTok wannabe revolutionaries thinking this will kick off a class war are very dumb and would never have the guts to pick up a gun and do it themselves.

For those interested in the cost of the manhunt, this was the AI-generated summation I got when I googled to learn how valuable United Healthcare is:

“According to recent information, UnitedHealthcare, which is part of UnitedHealth Group, is considered the 8th most valuable company in the world based on market capitalization, making it the largest healthcare company by revenue globally.”

Given how loudly money talks, I wouldn’t be surprised if cops investigating that particular crime would want it to look like no stone is going unturned.

[quote]“According to recent information, UnitedHealthcare, which is part of UnitedHealth Group, is considered the 8th most valuable company in the world based on market capitalization, making it the largest healthcare company by revenue globally.”

Given that ranking, you'd think the company could kick in a little bit on the reward for finding the killer. But I guess that wouldn't look good on this quarter's balance sheet.

R563

New thread.

Yeah, r581, the GWB Bus Terminal seems an odd choice to leave NYC from. It has only a few intercity Greyhound buses, the rest are buses to northern New Jersey and Rockland County but I'm assuming he wasn't fleeing to Hackensack or Nyack. And I'm sure there are just as many cameras there as at the midtown bus terminal but a lot fewer people coming in and out making it easier to find him. Of course, if he arrived there a little after 7am the terminal crowds would have been at peak morning commute.