Who Are You Now?

Well, I hope the lesson’s been learned, OP:

Keep your legs closed to married men.

Your lack of details makes this worthless for anyone here you're dumping it on.

Be specific of get lost when using the DL as an Unloading Forum.

[quote]It’s hitting me that we aren’t moving forward as friends anymore. I feel bereft. I always believed deep down we would find a way to be friends again…but I feel like that is no longer the case.

It was probably never the case, judging by this:

[quote]Nobody really fought to keep me or fix it.

R2 I’d be happy to share whatever. What details are you interested in?

Tough as it is, move on. You'll make new friends that appreciate you and with less drama. Is any part of what they initially criticized you for that you can learn from? We all make mistakes. We can all be wrong. But we can all learn and move on. Always forward. Good advice I have read on DL more than once is that not all friends are meant to be with you for a lifetime. Be grateful you had them when you did. Don't dismiss all the good for how it ended. You'll be fine. The older you get the more you realize that counting on friends too much just adds drama and problems to your life. In the end, we can only count on ourselves. Good luck to you.

OP . . .

OP, consider yourself lucky if you have 1 true blue friend. A friend who'll support you no matter what, as you will them. Sounds like none of these people are true blue friends. So if they go, they go. Don't put yourself into a position that you'll ever fret losing those kinds of so-called friends.

OP, what was the fight about?

I feel like I'm in a relationship with you. It's obviously your fault since you omitted what the fight was about.

Do you know Todd of Vaguebook?

It would be nice to know what happened to cause this fight, but it sounds like you stopped going along with the rules and hierarchy of the group. Did you become tired of being treated in a way that you thought was not suitable to you? I’ve been in the situation before, and if you go against the grain, people get really upset because they want to maintain the status quo.

I was at your age when I broke up with a long-term friend I knew since kindergarten. There was too much drama and mind games by him, and I kept catching him in lies he was fabricating to make me feel bad. At first I missed our friendship, but I got over it and I am better off without dealing with all that.

I’m still friends with someone I’ve known since Junior high school- we met in Miss Brook’s music class September 1978.

Missing missing reasons.

Notice OP doesn't mention WHAT the problems were. Additionally, it appears that it was OP on one side and the other three on the other side. They still appear to be friends. The "tension and anger" seem to be one-sided on OP's side. Were there issues among the other three?

I get the vague sense that whatever happened four months ago was the straw that broke the camel's back, and the other three were just plain tired from years of drama generated mostly by OP.

It's tough to be the odd man out. It's devastating when people you thought were friends only tolerated you and dump you. We've all been there. But, it's also a good time for some self-introspection. They may be awful people, or you may be exhausting.

This essentially happened to me OP, but I was 41 and it was 2 friends.

It’s very painful but try your best to move on and make a real effort to make new friends. Once you do, you’ll feel better about yourself. Shitty friends end up impacting your self-esteem whether you realize it or not. At the time, I just kept thinking - with friends like this, who needs enemies?

Sending you a hug.

A little over a year ago I lost two heterosexual friends and both of their spouses over a difference that can never change. It hurt like hell. I was depressed and did little more than read Datalounge and play a video game for several months.

After a year had passed, I asked an intermediary to let one of the people know that I’d like a chance to offer an apology for my behavior in person (but not the content of my remarks) and what came back was an absolute no. They don’t want to hear it, they don’t want to see me.

I’m amazed that I’m over it, but it’s clear that they’ve decided to treasure a set of attitudes and beliefs that I can in no way share. Which actually helps. When there’s no way back, you have no choice but to go forward. Or maybe stay in place, stewing forever, but what’s the point of that.

Hence, I strongly recommend becoming as depressed as hell. You can’t avoid it. So, search your soul, write a journal, become a gym fanatic, buy a bunch of old china and take it to a remote place and hurl it off a cliff while screaming out your pain. Do whatever. All the refreshment your friends used to provide is gone now and it’s not coming back and the less time you spend hoping for that, the better.

You can’t change it. You tried. You’re in for a bleak timespan the length of which you can’t know now.

Good luck.

Was it related to politics/religion /culture?

OP, listen carefully and learn:

It is very obvious that the OP was a bringer of "drama" and that his friends had had enough.

Given your age, I'm going to do say it probably involved one too many incidents of the OP getting drunk and telling everybody exactly how they feel a la Blue Jasmine.

Why do the people who tell these stories think they are of any value without addressing the actual source of the conflict.?

We were best friends for years yadda yadda yadda we don’t speak anymore.

It makes it sound like you know it’s a you problem.

Someone I thought was going to be a friend for life somehow turned into a pro-Trump, log cabin republican type. The friendship hasn’t completely ended but there’s not much left anymore

The majority of friendships cycle in and out over a seven to ten year time frame. It happens. The gay drama is just situational. People fall out, but really, they're just tired of each other. There will be a few gems in your life, but not many, and they are the ones who matter.

BTW, not to pile on, but your focus on who checks your social media sounds juvenile for a 36 year old so you might want to have a think about that

OP I went through this exact thing. It was like grieving the loss of friends I loved. Now, 3 years later I'm so glad to be away from them. They were jealous and never celebrated anything I achieved...to the point where I felt even mentioning something good that was happening in my life, was a rude thing to do. It was pure jealousy and I see that now. You may see in time that it's for the best.

OP, if you want your friends back you will have to accept the fact that the election was stolen and the trial was rigged!

100% booze-related on part of the OP.

On the make-up date, he boozed it up again.

Thread closed.

OP never responded to what the situation was about. He avidly checked his social media but not responses to his post. Sounds like it was your fault OP and your friends don't no longer care about you enough to forgive you and go back to the way it was. You're much less important to them now. It's over for good. The saddest thing is going forward you will never create a bond as strong with friends as you did when you were younger. The emptiness and sadness will linger. Will it dissipate? Maybe not. Can you find fulfillment as strong in future friends? Most likely not. The bloom is off the rose so to speak.

Sorry for the lack of details in the OP, guys. It’s very painful for me to write out because it feels like I’m reliving the whole ordeal. But here goes…

I am a recovering meth addict. About six months ago, two months before the big fight, I had a major relapse, and with tremendous guilt, renewed my toxic relationship with Tina.

One of my friends in the tight circle I referenced at the OP and I were hanging out while his husband was out of town taking care of his sick dad. I knew my friend had done meth in the past but had no idea that his addiction had been even worse than mine. Well, you guessed it: I scored some meth and asked him if he’d like to party. He said no initially, and to my shame, I cajoled him into it.

But I didn’t have to cajole him into bed. We had some of the best sex I’ve ever had, about an hour of which we recorded on my iPhone. Flip-fucking, 69, ass-eating, and toys.

Still totally wound up from our meth binge, I texted a snippet to an old fuckbuddy who I knew would get off on it.

Not soon after, the clip ended up on a porn site. It’s since been removed, but both of our faces were unfortunately visible for a few seconds while we are deep kissing. The guy’s husband found it. I don’t think my fuckbuddy posted it, but he definitely shared it. Our friendship is over now, but so I fear is my relationship with my tight circle.

The guy who I fucked on the meth binge suffered his own relapse and ended up back in treatment, and his husband has since moved into the basement to give himself space. I feel awful.

Now I’m consumed with abject shame but I am also angry at my friends for not supporting me through my own recovery. As I said, they’re cordial in person, but online it’s nothing but stone cold rebuffs.

I know I’m no angel, but I stand on a precipice. I’m not doing any meth now, but I confess that I still watch that video and jerk off to the two of us fucking in a state of total abandonment.

I’m a complete mess, and I need my friends back to get my life back in order. They’ve abandoned me when I need them more than ever. All I want now is forgiveness and solidarity .AITA?

[quote]There have been no texts, nobody has liked my social media posts and the guy of the group I liked the most won’t even view my “stories” even though I know he has been online.

If my friends judged our friendship on any of those criteria, I'd have been ostracized by them years ago.

OP here

Three of us were friends forever and one of the guys was a boyfriend of a friend.

He and I got along well and the friend had suspicions that I had feelings for the boyfriend.

Everything came out at the dinner. I felt betrayed that my friend would think that of me. Yes, I enjoyed the boyfriend’s company. I found him funny and I liked talking to him…but I certainly wasn’t going to go after him or betray my friend. Plus the boyfriend wasn’t interested in me in that way. It was a non-starter.

I felt humiliated and nobody defended me (even the boyfriend didn’t exactly defend me) so I walked away from the friendship.

When we had our meeting to talk things out, the hostility came from my friend because they were STILL convinced I had feelings for the boyfriend and that I was gaslighting by denying it. We went back and forth on this for about an hour.

I just wanted to move on from everything, which is why I invited everyone to dinner.

There was no hostility at the dinner and no insults. Nobody mentioned the fight or the fracture. The boyfriend greeted me with a hug when we met at the restaurant.

But…it feels over. The friendship between the four of us is gone.

My big regret is when shit hit the fan during the fight that I didn’t take a breath and calm down and just try and talk it out in the moment. Instead I got defensive because I got hurt and then I said hurtful things during the argument.

I own that I acted like a baby but I couldn’t believe my friend was willing to throw away a 20 year friendship on a suspicion that wasn’t even true.

Basically I feel like crap right now. So much of this was my fault and it’s not fixable. There’s no reason to apologize again because we already met and had a pleasant dinner, but the friendship is just not there anymore.

R28 is not OP I am OP r30

OP We have moved on as you suggested. We are having a grand time. We even mentioned you at the 3 hour Sunday brunch we all had the other day. It was wonderful getting together with good friends and good food.

Hope all is well dont call us we will call you

Regardless who's who, the meth story was riveting, so congrats.

R28 is clearly a parody.

OP, your story makes no sense to me. Who would end a long-term friendship over what you describe? There must be something else going on. Unless the “hurtful things” you said were truly beyond the pale and this was not an isolated incident.

I liked R28's story better. If R30 is really the OP, then his friends were right to abandon him for being a bore.

Team R28!!!

OP, are you a frau? Did you flirt with the boyfriend over text? While drunk? What horrible things did you say during the argument.

Be honest.

OP/r30 - don’t listen to the nasty bitches on here saying it’s a YOU problem, that you’re obviously a drunk and demanding specific details in order to comment.

The details (unless it’s the parody response about meth and porn) are largely irrelevant to the actual issue here - which is the surprisingly common phenomenon of losing friends in your 30s/40s. Fraus talk about this shit often. On DL, it comes up but there is always a chorus of vipers HISSING that it’s the OP’s fault no matter what. Nonsense.

There doesn’t have to be some grand villain in this situations or crazy details (like the meth and porn 😂). It’s often something that builds up over time and ultimately isn’t very interesting to people who don’t know you.

If your friends are behaving this way, they are no longer your friends. It’s upsetting. Try your best to move forward. There are always people looking for friends - it’s a matter of finding them.

This never happened, and thank God for that.

[quote]The saddest thing is going forward you will never create a bond as strong with friends as you did when you were younger.

What kind of shit advice is this? The halcyon days of youth and innocence (and small town clannishness and hours on end spent together because there seemed no better option and lack of perspective from having seen nothing of the world?) That's the social achievement of your life?

[quote]When we had our meeting to talk things out, the hostility came from my friend because they were STILL convinced I had feelings for the boyfriend and that I was gaslighting by denying it. We went back and forth on this for about an hour.

This makes no sense to me. Even IT if were true that you had feelings for the boyfriend, why would that be a problem if you never acted on those feelings or even discussed them with the boyfriend or anyone else? And why were all of these people "convinced" that you had feelings for the boyfriend in the first place?

^^^ Sorry, I meant "Even IF it were true..."

Gay men and their love of over the top drama

[quote] And why were all of these people "convinced" that you had feelings for the boyfriend in the first place?

OP had the boyfriend’s name tattooed on his ass, but he insists it was just because “it’s a pretty name.”

OP, it’s the boyfriend. He told the other two that you made a pass at him.

I think r45 is onto something.

Move on. Life is too short. If people don't want to be your friends, find new friends. Simple as that. You don't need to beg anyone to like you. You can mourn the loss of a friendship but honestly why do you want to be around people who don't want to be around you?

OP, you sound juvenile with the "friends forever" and monitoring who is liking your posts.

You're in your 30s, so that's young for DL.

Friendships just do END.

Grow up. Look for new friends or, better yet, learn to depend on yourself for validation.

I’ve found that friends eventually disappoint.

Which is why I prefer a more isolated life at 72.

I am Spartacus!

One thing I've learned is that there are some friends that will eventually resent or dislike you for reasons that will never be clear to you. Sometimes they even invent slights and convince themselves they actually happened.

Most people are sheep, so they will follow the one in their friend group that bleats the loudest. It doesn't sound like anything of value was lost OP. Find friends who value you as you are.

R51. And some people are just assholes that people grow to dislike but these assholes are unaware of that fact that people see them as assholes.. So they blame others for them being disliked or ignored or cut loose.

Booze is your only real friend anyway.

[quote] I’m 36 years old, almost to 37.

Are you sure you’re not 12? Because you write like a child.

R53, Won’t you please see R7?

R28 is the OP we want.

It's the OP we need.

It's the OP we deserve.

OP your problems with your friends are pretty obscure to readers. 3 against 1 does not bode well for you. Wonder what you did?

Beautiful ballad by young Barbra- best thing about this thread.

All four people must be the biggest drama queens in the county, if not state. Acting like Jr. HS girls about who has the right to like or dislike, and who doesn't have the right, and is it a crush or isn't it, and HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

OH MY FUCKING GOD SHUT UP.

I like the reconciliation meeting which was just a giant mind fuck of OP with no reconciliation. Twisted.

OP here again.

Yes, the reconciliation dinner where no reconciliation happened, was painful.

I’m flirty by nature, but wasn’t especially flirty with the boyfriend. My friend is deeply insecure and was upset by his and I’s connection…

That brings me to what the one poster said that said the boyfriend lied and told everyone I did make a pass.

I do think that is a strong possibility. Why he did this, I have no idea.

I’m basically gutted by this whole thing and wish a magic wand could fix our situation and we all be friends again.

But I know it’s never going to happen.

The friend with the boyfriend is jealous/insecure. You cant fix it. You trigger them. Time to move on.

[quote] I’m flirty by nature, but wasn’t especially flirty with the boyfriend. My friend is deeply insecure and was upset by his and I’s connection…

Oh, dear! How is it a meth addict has better grammar than you, OP? Do they teach that in rehab?!

Move on, OP, but I have a feeling you'll be in a situation to be forgiving at least one of your friends in the near future.

The OP is an example that we are way way past the greatest generation and are now in the most easily triggered and most sensitive generation.

Seriously this is so weak and silly , 13 yo girl type of silly, but since it’s likely made up and fictional who gives a fuck.

Yeah The WW2 generation was a tough group. They dealt with depression and war. That was my parent's generation. They seem so anxious now. They can't talk to anyone they can't regulate their emotions. Every generation after the greatest got softer and softer with each generation.

[quote]I’m flirty by nature, but wasn’t especially flirty with the boyfriend. My friend is deeply insecure and was upset by his and I’s connection…That brings me to what the one poster said that said the boyfriend lied and told everyone I did make a pass. I do think that is a strong possibility. Why he did this, I have no idea.

Now that you're giving more details, I think I can guess what happened. Even though you say you weren't "especially firty" with the boyfriend, maybe something you said or did while flirting with him was interpreted by him as a pass, even if you honestly didn't mean it that way. And maybe he told his boyfriend and the other friend what you said or did, and they agreed that you crossed a line. And maybe they had a "reconciliation dinner" with you because they felt bad for you, but they don't want to continue the friendship because they assume your flirty ways are going to continue.

Don't you think maybe that's exactly what happened?

I'd love to see the text exchange amongst the 3 dinner guests as they were weighing whether to accept the invitation.

[quote]by his and I’s connection

What an idiot. The word is “my,” you drunk.

Notice how he avoids admitting his alcohol problem in every response?

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If OP is “flirty by nature” why does it only bother his ex-friends when he displays that behavior towards the boyfriend? It’s possible, though.

My guess is that the boyfriend thing is just a symptom of a larger root cause - probably that the other three are progressing in their careers, relationships, and interests and OP isn’t. It didn’t matter for a long time, but now that they are approaching middle age it’s getting tiresome to have OP whine about how they can’t go to Y because he can only afford X. Or hearing OP complain how he’s going to get a roommate, but he can only find bad roommates, blah, blah…when OP should focus on getting a better job instead of wringing extra $ out of his only asset, a desirable rent-stabilized apartment where his is *probably* the legal tenant, but he’s not quite sure. Or OP is engaged in a long running feud with his siblings over a family business they are running in Ohio, but OP feels that they should sell it and give him his 20% share payout. Meanwhile, he has his life on hold. Every suggestion on how to improve his situation is met with, “if I had my pay out…” Or the boyfriend is providing the other friends with access to something they want - a fancier class of people, maybe celebrity adjacent or wealthy individuals who could become clients or otherwise benefit the friends. But the boyfriend thinks OP isn’t up to snuff and doesn’t want him tagging along.

I don’t think your friends want to be mean to you, OP. But I suspect they are hurting you more in the long run by not being honest. They don't want to be friends with you, but it might be beneficial to you to figure out what the real issue was and if it’s something you want to work on changing.

OK when Diana died and it was announced on television I screamed and you laughed at me. I could live with that but when you uploaded the video that was a bridge too far. You made us all look like a bunch of silly fags for the world to laugh at and ridicule while you hid behind the camera. We will never forgive you.

R71, you sure are guessing at a LOT of stuff.

R71 ‘s post is the most hilarious thing I’ve read so far in 2024!

Let’s drink some of OP’s booze in celebration!

🍹 🥃 🍻🍺🥃🍸🍷

His and I’s connection?

So sad.

What does the title of the thread have to do with the subject matter of OP’s purported situation.

OP is in his / her 60s, hence knows the title to this Streisand song. (Title of thread.)

I'm 68. That's 25 in DL years.

[quote] After a year had passed, I asked an intermediary to let one of the people know that I’d like a chance to offer an apology for my behavior in person

In other words, you lowered yourself. Don't ever do that again.

Based on OP's comments after r30, I'm more inclined to believe that r28's rendition may be a lot closer to the truth than OP would like us to believe.

[quote]“flirty by nature”

Translation: I present hole wherever and whenever to whomever I want regardless of appropriateness of situation or whether the target of the presentation wants it or not.

R43 Hold my beer

OP will hold your beer, Lesbian.

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Are you Kim Cattrall?

Learn to be alone…you’re better off.

I still want to know what hurtful things you said in your moment of hurt and anger. They might be things that cannot be forgotten and only superficially forgiven for that one last dinner. But they remain hovering above you and your former friends. Their affection for you has been lost and no matter what you do you can't get it back. Like falling out of love with someone. If I could link a song it would be DL icon Edie singing What Did I Have. One of the great pop recordings.

Sorry Eydie.

Here you go r85…

R85

The boyfriend was describing a movie and said there was a character with no spine and was a follower.

I looked at him and said “no spine and a follower-sounds like you.”

Your friends have moved on without you. For the next group of friends assuming that happens try to be a nicer person not a caustic asshole.

R85, It’s from the score of On a Clear Day You Can See Forever.

That's not fair, R89. This altercation came out of the blue for OP, and we all know "hurt people hurt people". He did try to apologise later.

OP’s story sounds like a lesbian story, not a gay male story.

r90 r92

R89, please try using some commas.

R93, R93, R93, R93, R93, R93, R93, R93

Yes Burton Lane and Alan Jay Lerner. But Gorme turns it into a pop ballad as opposed to Harris whose Broadway belt is also a great recording of the song. Streisand's version is a calamity. If I were Lane I would have been demanded it be removed from the film. And then I would have throttled her.

I would have demanded

R96, Liza sang it “live” on “Letterman”.

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Is that enough ??????????????????????????????

Impressive r99! Now, what can you do with a colon?

This is a frauCunt thread, right?

OP that was a pretty shitty thing to say. It would be hard to get past that. Your friend was understandably deeply hurt and it seems everyone sided with him.

Yeah R101 this NEVER happens to men gay or straight!

[bold]This reads like a High School diary entry, OP[/bold]

Jeemus. You better find a way to make amends with these people, OP, because I doubt any people you'd seek friendships with in replacement wouldn't put up with your weird immature nonsense for long

"I'm 36, almost 37" -- FFS you do know that's how children tell people their age, right.

R103 here

I only read the OP when I commented about the High School diary likeness - now that I've read more.... yep, still totally comes off as a HS diary entry.

OP did you not already start a thread about this where you were starting to fall for your female friend’s boyfriend?

R105 we can only hope you are correct. That would be HoF quality threads if so.

When I was young I had a straight roommate and we shared the same bedroom. He knew I was attracted to him and so did his girlfriend. We knew each other from high school and we all remained friends. They got married and then divorced when his father died and left him a fortune. That's when he cut me off as well. He was suddenly very rich. I was not. They married two other people. She remains one of my best friends and he died of a heart attack.

And no I was never attracted to her second husband though he was good looking at one time.

I want to thank everyone who has responded to this (even the snark)

It’s a Friday night and I’m sad. My “friends” will be going to an event tomorrow that I always went with them to each year.

I know that in time the pain won’t feel as acute as it does. But right now it’s pretty raw.

I’m grateful for DL, despite the pointless bitchery

OP, these people have no plans to be anything but acquaintances to you going forward. You are embarrassing yourself by keeping them as friends on social media. Block, and move on.

OP?

Hon, you need to cut to the chase a lot faster! I don't have time to read your post, it's longer than "The Stand"!

Maybe your friends find you too long-winded!

OP reminds me of this thread:

OP use the sadness and reach out to other people and make plans. Or go to a meet up tomorrow.

When you get that feeling of “ugh I don’t want to,” just tell yourself your former friends would never expect you to be out there meeting new friends. Use that as motivation to step outside your comfort zone.

Go find some other friends. The global population is now about 8,019,876,189. Surely you'll fine some friends among us.

Lighten up and don't care so much. People are mostly just thinking about themselves anyway. A friend once told me when I was bitching about something, "nobody cares." I adopted that attitude and socializing is a easier for me. Somehow, I've managed to find a few kindred spirits among the 8 plus billion humans on earth but it helps to have a lot of other stuff going on so you don't put too many expectations on them. I like my own space and I'm happy to give others theirs.

R113 His former friends are not thinking about the OP in any way. Meet new friends don’t meet new friends they don’t give a shit any more. Just like we don’t really care.

The former friends have indeed moved on

Oh FFS. This is the latest bullshit EST by the OP who writes about falling for friends partners.

Previous threads included thinking he’d be a better boyfriend to a guy in his friendship circle than the girl he was dating. That devolved into buying this guy a book for his birthday that caused a giant rift.

Then there was the time the upstairs neighbor couple invited him up for pizza and movie nights but then one of them got pissed off because he was getting to close to the other one.

Fuck off OP.

R116 if this is indeed true then are we bad people for making fun of the mentally unbalanced?

R115 OP here. That is the most painful part of this. I think about them and this situation all day everyday it seems and I really don’t think they think about me at all very much and have moved on.

It’s painful to be forgotten

Well even if it is an EST I've been in the same situation where I've fucked up with friends I cared about. And there is no going back to the way things were. I think about these people wistfully. I was lucky to know them and have them as friends for as long as the friendship lasted no matter what they think of me now.

I mean if they ever think of me at all.

R118 OP are you the same OP that started the I have lost my best friend from HS because of my feelings toward her straight boy friend who had no interest in you?

It’s been claimed you are one and the same.

Even it it is an EST :-)

R115 I disagree. People think of people. Bullshit these friends NEVER think of him. They might think of him in a nasty way, but if these people were actually longtime friends until recently, he crosses their mind. That’s reality. People who are/were in your life will be in your thoughts occasionally. Our minds wander. Unless you are someone who never thinks of anyone else ever.

EST or not - some of the responses here have such a visceral hostility toward OP, I would rather hang out with him and his flirty tendencies than the posters who are raging at him.

I'm 36. ha HA! I should be at my birthday party but I'm having a maudlin soliloquy with the audience of my own reflection in the bedroom mirror.

[quote] It’s painful not to be missed, and it’s painful to slowly start feeling forgotten. I’m becoming aware I will transition from “lifelong best friend” to “someone they used to know.”

I can perfectly relate. I wish I could say something uplifting and heartfelt. I lost my best friend half a year ago and I'm still functioning but not coping. I'm sorry you are going through this.

The angst, the loss the hurt the suffering from the EST things people make up just to have something to post on the DL.

People make up this untrue shit and then people who know it’s made up shit give the liar heartfelt advice and feel sorry for them. Just because it never happened does not mean it was not upsetting.

What a fucked up world we live in

R118

Come on now let’s be honest are you the same OP that started the “ I lost my best friend from HS because I kept flirting with and falling for her straight boyfriend who had no interest in me” thread?

Of course he is.