2 gay Brits visit Orlando

Aw that’s pro rugby player Keegan Hirst.

Keegan Hirst is a beautiful man, but also an opportunistic, self-centered and vapid attention whore. It isn't surprising at all that he has ended up in a relationship with the insufferably banal Joel Wood... By the way, is his ex-wife still endlessly complaining about how he'd rather do public appearances than take care of his children?

I checked Joel's IMDB page. Wow, nothing really. He's got pretty eyes. He has kept the lard off, too.

Keegan’s built like a rugby player (duh) and tells the rest of us how great it is to have a boy friend

Joel's parents have a vacation home in Florida that they rent out so Joel gets to stay there when he comes to America.

I saw on TikTok recently that a lot of people went after Joel for telling Americans they pronounce croissant incorrectly.

Joel has a vacation spot in his rectum that he rents out to anyone wanting to visit heaven.

Vapid is the right word. Waiting for that big acting breakthrough Joel's been predicting for years.

The big one is hot.

[quote]Vapid is the right word. Waiting for that big acting breakthrough Joel's been predicting for years.

He does mostly voice over work but makes good money with his YouTube channels.

Imagine this fucking you every damn night

Ehhh

Is anyone impressed with Orlando?

That's why they want to move there, OP?

I may be in the minority here, but I like them. Keegan is beautiful, and Joel is cute. And I like them, because every once in a while, I need middle brow entertainment as a distraction.

They live in Yorkshire, and it's good to see gay life in Britain outside of London. And the videos with Keegan's kids are refreshing to see how a gay couple have successfully navigated relationships with the children of one half of the couple.

Their take on British culture and American culture is decidedly middle brow. I realize that he earns money through product plugs in his videos, but come on...Joel treats Dunkin' Donuts as if it were a Michelin starred restaurant.

When visiting New York, Keegan claims it's overrated, but if you confine your visit to the High Line, going to fast food joints and piano bars, and raving about overpriced pastry at Starbucks, your credit as a travel critic leaves much to be desired. The highlight of another series of videos was a friend's surprise birthday trip on a "Walmart on the Water" type cruise in the Caribbean.

What kind of man would abandon his wife, children and home to fuck dudes?

Joel is auditioning every waking second of his life.

I'm good.

Those teeth are too normal-looking to be English.

[quote]Their take on British culture and American culture is decidedly middle brow.

They're just basic.

[quote] What kind of man would abandon his wife, children and home to fuck dudes?

My kind.

R16 a gay one?

Keegan's former fans have quite a bit of dirt on the both of them.

Are we sure Joel is the bottom? (Appearances can be deceiving!)

You can pretty much bet the one that was married is the bottom.

Did they review the bathhouse in Orlando?

[quote]Is anyone impressed with Orlando?

Katy Perry?

[quote] I saw on TikTok recently that a lot of people went after Joel for telling Americans they pronounce croissant incorrectly.

OMG, we were just talking about this in homeroom today!

Joel must be from a posh background, if his parents can afford a vacation house in Florida, no?

r29 no Plenty of brits bought Orlando real estate when it was rock bottom. They might be well off but I know quite a few brits who are middle class who have nice houses they vrbo in Orlando.

[quote] What kind of man would abandon his wife, children and home to fuck dudes?

The gay or bi kind, stunno.

R30, that makes sense. It must have been common enough to inspire that British show where the family moves to FL, buys a trailer park, and hilarity co-starring Leslie Jordan ensues. Still, it seems so much more expensive than a bijou villa on the Costa Blanca, and so much easier to get to.

I didn't mind them till I watched a very preachy podcast of theirs where they essentially berated any gay man who uses hookup apps - because, after all, why wouldn't any gay man want a long term monogamous relationship like theirs?!

I don't even like hookup apps, but that's just a me thing. I wouldn't lecture other gay men who enjoy using them because it's a free country. It feels like they want to improve the reputation of gay men by acting like straights.

r25 Why exactly is that?

I will never understand the British love for Orlando. Why would you cross the ocean to visit a flat, land-locked shopping mall?

If you had a lot of money, why would you choose Orlando, except its affordability?

It’s not in Orlando. It’s in the Orlando area.

[quote] Why would you cross the ocean to visit a flat, land-locked shopping mall?

For the British middle class a holiday abroad is an important class marker. The destination is of little importance. Of supreme importance is returning to Britain with a proper sunburn and travel woes to moan about with colleagues.

are they circumcised?

English guys are generally not cut.

R29 “posh” is not the same as “rich”, especially if it’s real estate shopping in Orlando.

Additionally the name “Joel”? Definitely not posh.

Orlando along with Disney World are utterly dreadful.

UK here.

Middle class people are not likely to go somewhere like Orlando. Too flashy. They often holiday in untouristy parts of France and Italy, and the posher they are, the more likely they are to holiday in the UK.

Cornwall is extremely popular, as is the West Highlands of Scotland.

Florida is totally for huns.

When Brits say "middle class," they tend to mean something that would be more akin to upper middle in many other countries.

I remember Joel from DL threads about YouTube videos he used to do with his female bestie before he came out as a faygeleh.

A gîte holiday is very popular among middle class Britons. The scruffier the better, and the children are forced to practice their French.

I shudder at the thought of Joel and his bf speaking French.

Holidaying in Florida and/or getting a tan are certainly not status symbols for the British middle class, r38.

Orlando (well, Florida in general) is seen as a bit chavvy, because it's so strongly associated with the very tacky Disney World. It's not somewhere I've ever wanted to venture to. I'm actually going to Cornwall in the summer, but I don't think that's middle class. Or maybe it is and I lack self-awareness. It's true you don't get the very rough people there as it's a long drive and they seem to prefer the tackier seaside resords with towns (like Paignton, Plymouth, Weston, etc).

Joel speaks quite well in that he doesn't have a noticeable regional accent. So I'd say he's middle class. Whereas Keegan seems working class with his strong northern drawl. Upper middle class are those who were privately educated, historically have money and speak very well.

It's quite bad how class conscious the UK is, but it's something that's ingrained from an early age. I usually say I dislike snobbery but sometimes I can't help partake.

R51 is way out of step with contemporary Britain. Received Pronunciation (RP) isn’t a mark of anything these days, And who’s said “chavvy” in the last ten years?

R51, maybe it's just you because most Brits don't try to "class" someone as soon as they open their mouths.

Personally, as a Brit at the lower end of that very broad band of middle class, my one hesitancy about going to Florida is the humidity.

I dunno about money bags up thread but my folks bought a house in Orlando to rent out and use as a vacation home when they are not renting it out, They chose Orlando because of the theme parks. Lots of UK Disney folk (and Universal).

As U.S. holidays/vacations go, status-conscious, middle/upper middle-class Brits might be more inclined to talk about kayaking in Maine, hiking in Oregon or Arizona, or do a tour of the major National Parks (Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Death Valley, etc.). Maybe a 3-week road trip. Possibly even better: an exclusive West Coast yoga retreat or semi-obscure music festival. Anything that signals not being "part of the herd," and looking beyond Florida, which is heavily promoted and advertised in mass-market publications in the UK.

Not sure how the two destinations compare price-wise in 2024, but there was a time in the not-too-distant past when it was cheaper for Brits to travel to Florida than to Spain:

[quote]What kind of man would abandon his wife, children and home to fuck dudes?

The smart kind.

[quote]Joel speaks quite well in that he doesn't have a noticeable regional accent.

There's definitely traces of Estuary there. For example, the Ls are border-line pronounced as Ws; likewise "free" almost sounds like "Fwee".

R53 I disagree. I think you can tell quite a bit about someone as soon as they start to speak. It's not just their accent, but also how they talk and their overall demeanour.

There have been studies where those with certain regional accents tend to fare less well in job interviews than those with different accents. Obviously I'm not saying that's okay, but there's a certain unconscious bias when it comes to accents. We all have it, but only some will admit to it.

Region and class are not the same thing, and specific situations such as job interviews are not the same as everyday interactions, r58. Although I would dispute the extent to which regional accents are discriminated against. Britain is a country with a huge range of regional accents, the idea that we're "classing" someone or discriminating against them immediately on the basis of their accent is nonsense. The country wouldn't be able to function if that were the case.

R59 I didn't mean discriminating on a large scale, but just how people view each other.

Wow. Amazed that a thread about two inane narcissists would turn into a discourse on dialectology.

[quote]Personally, as a Brit at the lower end of that very broad band of middle class, my one hesitancy about going to Florida is the humidity.

Come to California!

I watch a lot of British TV and movies, and it seems to me that there are many more distinct (and widespread) regional accents than there are in the US. And some that have their own jargon or vocabulary.

Keegan deserves a better boyfriend, who clearly is on the web only for the clicks, working his Brit twit act so that he can “influence” with inane content. Keegan seems wiser than this stupid git

Years ago, with Lia, Joel would talk about how he studied linguistics in college.

He sounds insufferable

Joel keeps recommending books. He has the taste of a seventh grader.

Joel seems an unusual name for an Englishman. Kind of like “Tony” Blair. I want my Brits to have names like Giles, Crispin and Jasper.

For some reason I had to laugh when I saw they had books to read by the pool

Sad they missed out on THE GAY CLUB the legendary Parliament House bulldozed five years ago.

Joel graduated summa cum lauderdale in Anal Linguistics at the University of Tampon

[quote]What kind of man would abandon his wife, children and home to fuck dudes?

The kind of man who has a fine eye for line and a natural flair for omelet making.

I wasn't terribly impressed by this video

If he is sunburned why hit the pool?

that gay club looks very sad.

[quote] If he is sunburned why hit the pool?

Ethnically British bodies have evolved to do well under dreary, overcast skies. British people shouldn’t lie in the sun or try to get a tan. They turn bright red and think they have achieved something.

Its refreshing to find someone who has such a good and close relationship with their father.

I never thought anything about staying on an upper floor in a hotel until one time I was on the 35th and the fire alarm went off. Eventually it was determined it was a false alarm but not before all guests had to walk down all those steps! Never again that high in the building.

[quote]Ethnically British bodies have evolved to do well under dreary, overcast skies.

So people with darker skin are less likely to breed when it’s cloudy?

British reality TV "stars" all seem to have healthy, glowing tans, from all that time spent hanging around Marbella ("Marbs") and so on.

I’ll always think of Joel as being the fat plumpkin, no matter what he does, so he’s a turn off physically. He had the pronounced muffin top I have ever seen. I’m glad he keeps his shirt on.

The shirtless pool segment was far too short .

The moral of this thread, everyone, is that British people are far more provincial than they appear and 'need to get out more' just as much as the Americans do. This air of sophistication is really one of the world's longest-running and most successful scams.

The big one has beautiful hairy forearms.

[quote]The big one has beautiful hairy forearms.

Is that the middle-aged dishwater blonde or the wild-eyed frowsy redhead?

Not a scam at all, R83, it’s just that so many Americans are unsophisticated and provincial that they hear a British accent - any British accent - and assume that it’s “posh” or “classy”.

It's a total scam designed to keep the scrutiny off of the British, while leaving people wanting to be like some false image of them.

[quote] it’s just that so many Americans are unsophisticated and provincial that they hear a British accent - any British accent - and assume that it’s “posh” or “classy”.

Wow. Is that what British people think? They’re dumber than I thought.

Poor Cheryl from Girls Aloud found out the hard way that Americans don't just accept any old British accent.

The fuck Brits decided ORLANDO of all places was a great American vacation spot?

Just because Disney? Stay home Brits, stay home.

[quote]they vrbo in Orlando

Pics please.

Is R90’s post an example of the words of a sophisticated and non-provincial American?

Hilarious!

Strange that r83 never considered that in a population approaching 70 million there would be a huge range of people.

I think Joel is very hot, despite his frequent comments about his biology (farts).

As Eurasian river otters go, Joel is gorgeous

[quote]This air of sophistication is really one of the world's longest-running and most successful scams.

[quote]It's a total scam designed to keep the scrutiny off of the British, while leaving people wanting to be like some false image of them

Anyone who's ever visited Britain (or even just follows their news a little, or, failing that, has ever seen a Ken Loach of Mike Leigh film to balance out the Richard Curtis and Merchant-Ivory) knows it's like any other country: positives and negatives, beauty and ugliness, and containing people from all social and economic backgrounds, albeit it with a relatively large underclass compared to some other Western European countries. In this day and age, with the accessibility of information out there, it's very hard to keep up the sort of "scam" you're talking about.

Here’s the large but depressing Airbnb.

Oh, I did. I also lived there for several years and went to uni there. The British did an excellent job in making me fall out of love with every redeeming quality they have. It may be different shades of what I said based on class or geographic background, but it's still present throughout British society except in maybe parts of Scotland (more) and Wales (less). That sense of superiority over everyone else is what fueled your stupid, stupid Brexit vote.

I used to follow Joel and that silly broad Lia (I think her name is) he traveled around with. That is until I saw that neither one had an IQ above 80.

Joel is hot. Keegan is too, although it’d be more of a “shut up and just fuck me” kind of way.

Their social media engagement has fallen off a cliff. Time to find a real job.

The handsomer, more famous one does have a great voice. An an instrument, his voice is good enough to secure attention and even the expectation that he has something to say. But voice in the sense of message is where he falls short.

They are both the very definition of basic.

For a long time on their YouTube channel no one said the obvious, which was how was Lia's boyfriend okay with her traveling around the world with this good looking guy. Then when Joel flounced out of the closet in a video I commented "well, at least now we know why Lia's boyfriend was okay with you two traveling the world together". Joel responded with a happy face emoji.

Joel's new feller is hot, but his voice bothers the hell out of me. He sounds like he has a huge wad of phlegm clogging his throat at all times.

Keegan came out very slowly, masquerading as a major straight ally and becoming a huge advocate against anti-gay bullying. He came out when his rugby career was clearly coming to a close. He's damned hot, but his past actions are duly noted. He can come to my orgy, but is not invited to the cookout.

[quote]Its refreshing to find someone who has such a good and close relationship with their father.

How close?

The Disney parks have been marketing themselves to foreigners for a long time and that's why they have become unaffordable for middle class people in the US. Brits also are the target audience for what's left of Route 66 (total tourist trap) along with the Aussies.

They had a date 2 months ago.

R107 is correct. It's a middle class rite of passage to take the kiddies to Disney in Orlando. There's also a LOT of flights from London to Orlando on BA and Virgin. More than Miami, I think.

Are they still doing the Happy Healthy Homo bit? Who are they to give advice?

Keegan's been worshipped as a rugby player, so the thinks it will transfer to the gay. I personally found it laughable that anyone would trust him after he waited to come out so publicly like he did.

after all that we don't see the results of their paintings.

R92 it's so hilarious!

People come out in their own way. He was a Rugger. Big decision to do that while playing. At least he was an ally publicly and supported anti-bullying. He could have been an Aaron Schrock and supported Anti-gay amendments and taking away gay rights before coming out and expecting everyone to love him.

Now that you've brought up Aaron 'Schock', what's happened to that snapperhead? He seems to have gone off the radar of late. I wonder if his fortunes have dwindled

[quote] He can come to my orgy, but is not invited to the cookout.

And this sentence right here is why gay men are the absolute worst.

In a manner of speaking, R116. Don't be such a literalist.

R97 That slapped-together tract house is filled to the brim with Wayfair tat!

Joel was very honest about his hair transplant.

So this is what's left of "gay culture"?

Assimilation has done what 30 million AIDs deaths couldn't.

[quote] He sounds like he has a huge wad of phlegm clogging his throat at all times.

Not phlegm, but something just as salty-bleachy tasting for sure!

Two naff English queens - groundbreaking.

R87 the Airbnb super host is called Gary - enough said.

You meant exactly what you said, R117. Don’t backpedal now.

I am not the poster you responded to, R125. However, I think they expressed the idea of "appealing enough to have sex with, but not appealing enough to socialize with" in a slightly more colorful way than someone else might have. And while this attitude may not be noble or honorable towards our fellow humans, it is by no means exclusive to gay men ("the absolute worst," in your words). You think heterosexual men and women never talk that way about potential sex partners?

*initially responded to (R105).

I watched two or three of the videos with the woman in which they come to the States and vlog about all the is amaaazzing!, different, odd and wrong with the US. I was like, don't these two sort of dumb and unself-aware twats know it has all been said before many times and WE KNOW! And, more importantly, luvs, we don't care what two English twats have to say about us.

"Everything is so much BIGGER! Including the PORTIONS!"

They are a tad smug.

[quote]They are a tad smug.

Well, they're good looking and make a living simply talking about themselves. Who wouldn't be?

Keegan has this gay men fitness and life coaching thing which is apparently making quite a bit of money. He delivers regular homilies on Instagram to attract new customers. Some of the messaging is ok. It's been complicated recently by his revelation of his diagnosis of dilated cardiomyopathy (and a really bad ejection fraction figure - about 20%?) which he is claiming is the result of a viral or COVID infection and not years of steroid abuse.

Funny - I know Joel Wood - and that's one of the few YouTubers I know. Have no idea his bf was famous.

Joel's parents have a house near Orlando - so they've been there countless of times. I've seen him at his parent's house several times over the years my self.

Do they share jockstraps?

Is Joel pregnant yet?

This tells you everything you need to know about Orlando. The place is just a joke.

Joel is as vapid a human being as has ever walked the earth.

I listen to books/podcasts every day at the gym and I earnestly tried to listen to their podcast (Happy Homo) for a couple of months. At times, they have on guests which are totally unknown to me (in the US), so highly uninteresting to me. In addition, several episodes suffer from their lack of attention to such (unimportant?) things as TURNING ON THEIR MICS when recording their episode. I really tried to become a regular listener, but just finally moved on to more interesting and better produced content.

both the subjects and the destination are boring as fuck

Bor-ing

Why would you want to be a regular listener, r138?

A couple of MONTHS? Jesus.

These two bore the shit outta me. They deserve each other. Dull, self-obsessed, and no depth of character.

Joel is basic as fuck. He loves everything about suburban Florida.

[quote] Imagine this fucking you every damn night

One night would be great. But "every damn night," meh. He's not all that physically, and he's vapid and self-centered.

It’s tiresome to watch Joel, a former fatty and plumpkin, constantly giving into food temptation. He should be as big as a house with all the food and snacks he eats on his vlogs, so it’s a wonder how he is still somehow able to avoid that.

No idea, r145.

Boring dolts

Ozempic stops over-eating, it doesn’t make the calories you eat go away.

They're both so extra, its nauseating. r17 is right, Joel is auditioning every waking second of his life.

I find it extraordinary that anyone could think watching two strangers arrive at a boring hotel and look for parking and decide whether or not to pay an extra $15 for a “pool view”would be any more interesting than the same events happening in real life .

What’s next ? My day at the DMV?

[quote] He should be as big as a house with all the food and snacks he eats on his vlogs

He probably does a Giada DeLaurentis and spits most of it out before swallowing, off camera. Either that or he rams his finger down his throat and pukes it all out.

As catty and bitchy as this thread is, I'm glad it hasn't plumbed the vile depths as the (now closed) Joel Wood threads on Tattle.

Do tell, r152!

[quote] Joel Wood threads on Tattle.

Tattle makes even DL seem sane and stable, by comparison.

R4, I loathe gays like this -- hey, we're SOOO happy and you can be too! Even if you don't look like us!

then, I saw that Keegan's got some heart issues -- not the romantic kind but the physical his heart kind.

I'd rather have my health than a relationship.

I hope he beats this; I don't wish ill health on anyone.