Ryan Idol- 1990s Gay Porn Star & Vintage Beefcake

He was beautiful, but sounds like a complete nightmare of a human being. Also, the fact that he attempted to murder his girlfriend with a toilet tank lid is both bizarre and terrifying - it's the sort of thing that you would see in a John Waters or Pedro Almodóvar film.

[quote]the fact that he attempted to murder his girlfriend with a toilet tank lid

It's not like a frozen leg of lamb was available.

[quote]He was beautiful, but sounds like a complete nightmare of a human being. Also, the fact that he attempted to murder his girlfriend with a toilet tank lid is both bizarre and terrifying - it's the sort of thing that you would see in a John Waters or Pedro Almodóvar film.

Agreed. I get just grabbing whatever is handy in a fit of rage, but he clearly spent way too much time with campy gay men to have come up with that. It really raises more questions than it answers, most notably how and why was the toilet tank lid the most handy weapon.

He did have a gorgeous body although unlike DL fav Matt Ramsey, you can tell in his first couple scenes that he wasn't actually actually having sex. Also, it always me wonder why Tom Katt was the go-to guy when people like Billy Herrington and Ryan Idol actually did more than let guys blow them.

Rumor that he and Tom Cruise were roommates in the salad days.

The show he did at the Tiffany in LA was called Scent of Rain and he actually got a very good review from the LA Times. He also did that porn show Making Porn as did almost every name porn actor of the time.

R13 because Tom Katt videos sold more than theirs most likely.

He IS Ryan Idol.

I always found his thong tan-line cheesy but strangely hot.

The thong tan line was perfect for that time period

Sexy when young but something about this era really gets me going.

The thong tan line is one of the things that intrigued me most when I first discovered him as a gay teen (along with his dubiously-placed tattoo of cherries). His scenes were jaw dropping to me. His beauty and the way that he would suck a dick, eat an ass and fuck were mesmerizing. And he was gorgeous, to boot. His cum shots were never spurting geysers like some of the other guys, but when he came, the noises he would make let you know that he felt it with every fiber in his being. The tractor scene in Idol Country alone is worth the price of admission.

R20 as a “gay teen” how did you watch his work? Internet porn wasn’t a thing in the 90s.

R21, St. Olaf?

Late teens (19-ish). I ordered Idol Country with a money order from one of those catalogues in the back of a gay porn mag.

R19 So much sexier older.

I saw " Making Porn," obviously to see him naked. The play was awful, but his body was beautiful. I think the audience would have appreciated the evening more if he had just come out naked and strutted for 10 minutes, then left. We would have seen what we came to see and would have been spared the horrific play.

What was his acting like, R25? He was always one of the better actors in his porn films.

Ryan Idol was ok. Looking back it would have been much hotter if someone had fucked the living daylights out of him. Someone like Jeff Stryker.

Wasn’t Ken Ryker about the same time?

Isn't he getting out of prison soon? Out of the pokey and right into OnlyFans no doubt.

It's rumored that both Idol and Ryker had a long list of celebrity clients.

Donais is aging like a gay Ron Jeremy

R28 yes, they debuted a few years apart. Ryan Idol debuted in 1990 as the lead to porn film “Idol Eyes”. He only made 11 porn films over the course of 17 years.

Ken Ryker debuted in 1994 in “New Pledgemaster”. He starred in 18 porn films over the course of 10 years.

They’re both Chi Chi LaRue discoveries.

I think it’s funny that a google search of his name tends to bring up Ryan Seacrest images if you scroll down far enough.

I met him once, around 2000-2001 I think. He was at a pride festival in Austin, and I got within a few feet of him for a while, and then said hi and shook his hand as he headed elsewhere.

He was stunningly gorgeous. That's really all I remember. He seemed cool, laid back, was just shooting the shit with some guys in the shade. His confidence was sexy but not arrogant, at least in that moment.

From 2011…

[quote]What was his acting like, [R25]? He was always one of the better actors in his porn films.

Truthfully, I have no recollection of his acting.

I wouldn't call it "acting" as much as I would call it "faking a lack of disgust that you're having sex with a dude". Lots of guys in films at that time were bad at that. Of course, that was peak "condom era", so it's gotta be tougher to get it up for someone you're not attracted to if you're wearing a plastic bag on your dick.

R35 Well, that was cringe-worthy.

From Wikipedia:

"He is housed at the California Medical Facility (CMF) in Vacaville, California, a facility for mentally ill prisoners, due to bad behavior, fighting, and drugs. Due to a 3-strikes record, he is eligible for a 25-years-to-life sentence if convicted for certain felonies, so he chose a deal to complete his entire sentence instead of getting a new charge. Kept in protective custody, his current release date is August 2023."

He's out, ladies! Go get him! Sounds like a real catch.

I don’t get it. Why are so many supposedly straight guys doing gay porn? Is the money so much more, are you more likely to be discovered for this? If you want to go down that road why not straight porn?

Ryan and Joey Stefano.

When he was in town (Chicago) doing that porn play, he worked out at my gym. I never saw him actually working, but I did see him in a shower stall, curtain open and jerking while looking for …. attention? He was definitely looking for an audience, if not … a hand, as it were. I don’t believe the shower itself was running.

R42. He got arrested in Chicago for punching out the fat pig porn 'playwright.'. He was led through the lobby in handcuffs and audience members thought it was part of the play.

If you read the court document that R11 posted, he admits to being bisexual not straight.

Yeah, he was meh at being convincing about what he was doing. There was a porn where he played a football player in uniform being sucked off by some guy, then fucking him, and you could tell from the editing a stunt dick stepped in.

He was slightly more convincing than Lex Baldwin, who stands out in my memory for his utter terribleness.

right, guys billed as "tops" but who were as interesting to watch as dish water. in walks sean cody in 2000 and suddenly viewers got guys who seemed interested in fucking, or at least flirting on screen

Also looking at the court documents he brought the male “friend” to live with him and his girlfriend not telling her they wore more than friends.

[Quote] Why are so many supposedly straight guys doing gay porn? Is the money so much more, are you more likely to be discovered for this? If you want to go down that road why not straight porn?

Much better chance for “stardom.” Hardly anyone looks at or knows the names of male performers in str8 porn.

Still, he’s no Mike Branson.

[quote]I don’t get it. Why are so many supposedly straight guys doing gay porn?

As others have said, he’s not straight. The reason he attacked the girlfriend with the toilet tank lid was because she caught him fooling around with a man.

[quote]Hardly anyone looks at or knows the names of male performers in str8 porn

This isn’t exactly true. There are several legendary straight porn studs, some who work for decades.

With way that he sucked Tom Katt’s dick with aplomb in this scene, there ain’t no way that he’s straight…

Ryan Idol seemed more in the bracket, timewise, of Jeff Stryker etc. (late 80s/early 90s) to me. I could be wrong.

Ken Ryker seemed like he was more mid 90s. He and Zak Spears were everywhere for a few years in that time frame. Not a big gap in years but they did seem like their own "next wave."

My gawd, R51

I loved porn like that so much as a younger gayling. There's probably a dissertation worth of analysis on how my brain was warped by lusting after those type of unattainable bodies with perfect tanlines.

Someone upthread questioned why so many "straight" guys were in gay porn. And the answer(s) are why not if you are in a tiny subset of people who can be idolized and monetarily rewarded for enjoyable contact. While it may not be their top preference, I equate it to some of the stories of superstars of music and mainstream media who allegedly/bizarrely had a fling with the most beautiful or sexy of a less desirable category than settle for second tier within their supposed alignment.

He was hot but, unlike others up thread, I didn’t like the thong tan line. To me a bathing suit tan line reaffirms the ass, a thong not so much. Different tastes, I guess.

He always looked somewhat reluctant and, to me, although exciting to see him in action, slightly mechanical. He was second generation gay porn when after the debauched 70s where everything and everyone was game. It started a trend of reluctant ant so called straight guys doing, step by step, gay things. In a way, we are still there, so Idol (and Stryker) were key figures in this

I'd say Rex Chandler was Idol's contemporary and I think even a bigger porn star. He too was in Making Porn.

R35 Chi Chi LaRue is so obnoxious. I might threaten her with a baseball bat to the head if I had to be around her for more than 30 seconds.

So, it’s safe to say that Ryan hung out on lots of beaches wearing a thong. Yeah, he’s definitely not straight.

Definitely not straight. When he was touring gay bars in the 90s, he would get fucked up on drugs and go home with guys who fucked him. He was a big ol' bottom.

Rex Chandler was big, but he was pretty much eclipsed by Ryan Idol. Idol was the biggest of all gay porn stars in the late eighties/early nineties. He only made something something like seven films (there are more listed on iafd, but they are mostly compilations of his scenes from his first films).

Idol's body was what really made him stand out at the time, but he also had a great face, great ass, and a great dick. He also sneered during his sex scenes which was a huge turn-on.

It's funny to me why an above poster even asks why some supposedly 'straight' guys do gay porn. Guys in regular porn typically do not make much money - it's the women who do. The women are the stars in straight porn - it's who men are paying to see.

In gay porn - obviously they are paying to see the men. So yes, you can make 10x as much, I've heard. Second, porn is frequently a way to promote yourself to make $$$ in stripping or escorting. It's a marketing tool.

Yes there have been a handful of straight porn men who have been able to make a name for themselves - but very few. Even so, I have to wonder how much they make versus some of the top gay performers.

Of course, the 'golden' age of porn is over with everything online now and OnlyFans. To me, it seems the porn world is 'safer' than before - get a lot of subscribers and do some 1:1 videos from the comfort of your home. A lot less need for stripping, which always seemed humiliating to me - dancing around naked for a few dollars being pushed into your g-string by drunk, unattractive men.

Jeff Stryker was THE porn star of that era, but yes Idol was pretty close to the top.

He seemed coked to the gills when he was fucking some guy at the end of a couch, which was kinda hot. I think it was the same movie where he blew Tom Katt.

Oh yeah, this was the one with really obvious editing/stunt dick. (Starts around 1:08:00)

Still, fucking hot. Especially when the guy takes his cup out and sniffs it.

[quote]He seemed coked to the gills when he was fucking some guy at the end of a couch, which was kinda hot. I think it was the same movie where he blew Tom Katt.

Yes, it’s from Idol Thoughts. Scene starts at the 5:20 mark.

OP LPSG exile?

Well at least this one hasn't been dead for 40 years. Appreciated the effort OP

[Quote] Huppert testified that she ended the relationship when she discovered that defendant had given her a venereal disease and was working in the pornography industry.

[Quote] Huppert did not see defendant for nearly 20 years, and on July 4, 2008, she decided to look him up on the Internet and found he was working on Broadway in New York. She emailed defendant's entertainment attorney and after talking to defendant, she went to stay with him at his home in New Hampshire for several days.

A favorite of David Geffen.

He had a hardscrabble background--I think he was a foster child from a working-class town in Massachusetts.

He was such a big deal in the late 80s and early 90, but he was very fucked up. He threw himself out of a window above the 1st floor of a building in the Village in the 1990s and was in the hospital for quite a while. I think he had no medical insurance, and this was before the days of GoFundMe.

Idol Eyes and Anal-Ese.

I'm saw him in the play "Making Porn" in San Francisco in the '90s.

He wasn't bad as an actor. Not great, but not bad. Had he gotten some acting training, he could've had some potential.

[quote] Ken Ryker

Did he ever get hard? Or would he pass out if he ever got fully engorged?

R50 is a pedant

I wonder if prison turned out the way it did in his movies.

Wait, he had been in a domestic partnership with a Filipino doctor for seven years before he rekindled his relationship with this Felicia lady, and then they had a threesome at her suggestion so they could 'rekindle the spark'? Also, she KNEW that he was bisexual and "needed" to frequently have sex with men, and she still chose to be in a relationship with him?

I hadn't read the entire document when I posted @R11, but this is just insane. She is a fool, that Uy guy is a creep (and if it's the Leo Uy I have found on the net, he's also fucking ugly) and Ryan Idol/Anthony is utterly insane.

he looks like a Baldwin

R40 porn is all about money. It isn’t art. It’s an easy money grab that exploits messed up people willing to get fucked on camera for the world to see. Straight men have always been the biggest sellers in gay porn. They come off masculine and straight but fuck men. Gay men always made them the top sellers of the industry, hence them dominating. A lot of gay men were hardly ever attracted to the actual gay men in porn. The ones they always were into tended to turn out to be straight in real life.

As for the straight men who did gay porn, they’re usually messed up people or desperate and gay porn paid them a lot more than straight porn back then. If the studios knew you were straight they were willing to pay you extra to do gay work. Men like Dale DaBone and Julian Rios have spoken about the gay studios desperately trying to get them to come to gay porn and throw big numbers at them to come but they both refused outside of solo scenes (which they did at the beginning of their careers) and Rios did a bi scene but the guy didn’t get to do anything more than suck on his dick. That was one of the first scenes he did. After that he knew he couldn’t do gay porn and didn’t care how much they were willing to pay.

R57 that doesn’t make sense. A tan line means gay? You don’t think these guys groom themselves for their work that involves them completely nude and spread???

Ryan Idol debuted in 1990. He wasn’t a porn star of the 80s like someone upthread stated.

[quote] I wonder if prison turned out the way it did in his movies.

He was never in a prison movie.

R80 I’m convinced that poster doesn’t know who Ryan Idol is. He also keeps on bringing up his 80s work when he debuted in 1990. Idk what 80s porn star he thinks is Ryan Idol. He should stay in his lane.

1990 is hardly that far away from the late 1980s, r81.

Go fuck yourself.

I never found him that hot until he was out of porn and had some age on him, had stopped shaving his body, and was looking a bit sleazy.

This may or may not have been stated already, but the reason he tried to bean the girlfriend in the head with the toilet lid was because she came home early and caught him and their male landlord fucking. I have to assume he was using his dick to pay his rent.

R82 it isn’t. But it isn’t the late 80s regardless the minute it hit 1990 it was now the 90s. Continuously mentioning someone who debuted in 1990 as an 80s porn star is ridiculous. He debuted in 1990. All over the internet he’s labeled as a 90s gay porn star. None of his credits are from 1980-1989.

Crazy that time and years has to be explained to a grown man.

Our Ryan is supposed to be released just 7 months. If he elected protective custody all these years in prison he may be a bit crazy by the time he gets out.

[quote] Kept in protective custody, his current release date is August 2023

[quote] But it isn’t the late 80s regardless the minute it hit 1990 it was now the 90s. Continuously mentioning someone who debuted in 1990 as an 80s porn star is ridiculous. He debuted in 1990. All over the internet he’s labeled as a 90s gay porn star. None of his credits are from 1980-1989.

Go take your OCD meds.

He was looking a might rough in his mug shot from his attempted murder arrest. God only knows what he looks like after all these years locked up.

R87, it might look like a Silver Fox now!!

R86 that isn’t OCD. It’s facts. You keep saying late 80s/early 90s when you should be saying 90s. That’s it. Simple.

Saw him twice. First time he aggressively cruised a guy I was dating in front of me in Newport Beach about 30 years ago. He was with a gorgeous Asian female companion. Then one day he walked into the dressing room at the Sports Connection and again, seemed hypnotized gawking at all the dick in the showers. I don't believe for a second he's straight.

None of 'em are straight. Every damn one of the guys who do gay porn who claim to be straight are lying through their teeth. Living a straight life with some broad, and maybe even kids, does not make a man heterosexual. HETEROSEXUAL MEN DO NOT SUCK COCK, FUCK MEN, OR GET FUCKED BY OTHER MEN, especially for the world to see. At the very least they're deeply closeted homosexuals, or in the case of a tiny minority of them, true bisexuals. And I've always held that if you take 100 men who claim to be bisexual you might find one that really is.

[quote][R50] is a pedant

No. There are several legendary straight male porn stars.

[quote]He was with a gorgeous Asian female companion.

Well this all but proves that he’s gay.

R85 August 2023, not August 2024.

He's already been sprung.

[quote]None of 'em are straight. Every damn one of the guys who do gay porn who claim to be straight are lying through their teeth.

This. No straight man would ever agree to fuck a man on camera. Ever. If you claim to be straight/gay-for-pay when doing gay porn, you’re either gay and in denial or bisexual.

This topic reminds me of porn star turned pastor Joshua Broome, who was an in-demand straight porn stud before going full-bore into gay porn (one of his many gay pornos had him on the receiving end of an all-black male prison gang bang). His list of gay and straight porn is extensive, and he later got out of it and is now married with several kids and a pastor who completely denounces the adult industry.

Poor boy was sent to a loony bin prison.

[quote] He was sentenced to 12 years in state prison September 27, 2012. He is housed at the California Medical Facility (CMF) in Vacaville, California, a facility for mentally ill prisoners, due to bad behavior, fighting, and drugs. Due to a 3-strikes record, he is eligible for a 25-years-to-life sentence if convicted for certain felonies, so he chose a deal to complete his entire sentence instead of getting a new charge.

[quote] you’re either gay and in denial or bisexual.

99.9% openly gay or deeply closetted

.01% bisexual

[quote] and he later got out of it and is now married with several kids and a pastor who completely denounces the adult industry.

Of course he denounces it. He's paid a salary to denounce it. He's putting on a big act now. He likely had no prospects after porn and decided on religion because that would last a lifetime as long as he could keep the act going. The wife and kids are all part of the act.

I can't tell you the number of absolute faggots I've known in my time who decided to put on the lifetime act of being a straight family man, simply because they could never bring themselves to admit to anyone they liked cock.

Speaking of now-married-and-straight Pastor Tom Katt:

[quote] I’ve been very unimpressed with a lot of churches. Many of them don’t study or teach the Bible in the depth that it should be taught. A lot of churches pull one or two verses out of the air and make up their own interpretations of it instead of really studying the book itself.

[quote] So many people – including myself at one time – believe those crazy so-called Christians who say, if you’re gay or bi, God doesn’t want you. That’s a big piece of crap. They are misconstruing and give twisted interpretations of Biblical scriptures. I’ve extensively studied the scriptures they try to base that on, and it’s just not true.

[quote]and Rios did a bi scene but the guy didn’t get to do anything more than suck on his dick.

There's another one where he lets a beak-nosed TV give him head.

And Tom/David's ex boyfriend (who was married at the time) Caesar

[quote] I’ve been bisexual my entire life. This has never been a secret.

[quote] No truly straight man is doing gay porn. That’s my opinion on the subject.

Joshua Broome has the gayest teeth ever.

[quote] He threw himself out of a window above the 1st floor of a building in the Village in the 1990s

Amateur.

He looked rough about 10 years ago, I can only image how he's aged today.

R96 ummmm how does this remind you of Joshua? Their stories are literally nothing alike….

R106, it’s the whole dubiously “straight” guy doing gay porn for money angle.

"No truly straight man is doing gay porn. That’s my opinion on the subject."

I've never seen or heard such heresy on this site.

Well unlike Ryan Idol, Boone was a straight porn star who ended up doing gay porn because they threw a lot of money at him.

r99...

When I see Boone’s new interviews, I get definite bi vibes.

[quote] He's already been sprung.

OMG!! You're right. I wasn't paying attention. Well he sure has been quiet.

Saw him fall off the stage at Studio One right before his daddy paid to have his steroid moobs removed. By 1998 David Forest would let you fuck him for $500 and cab fare. Old whore's are sad and wind up dead or in jail. That's what old whores do.

Because that means SO MUCH r111. Grow up.

[quote] By 1998 David Forest would let you fuck him for $500 and cab fare.

Not only that, but he'd let a group of his young porn starlets stand around as his fat little hairy naked ass was splayed out on a concrete patio, pissing all over him, face, mouth everydamnwhere. Those of us who were around in the old ATKOL days saw the video, and the subsequent admission by David who said he didn't care who saw it.

Oh, you meant David Forest would let people fuck Ryan for $500.00. I thought you meant David was letting guys fuck him for $500.00. Fuck David Forest for any amount, oh hell no. But piss in his mouth for $500.00, well as long as long as I didn't have to touch him. LOL

R116 no. He wasn’t owned by David Forest. He meant David Forest would let people fuck David Forest. Retarded comment.

By the way, R115, what happened to the ATKOL forums? They were quite entertaining and I loved how much crazy gossip many of the posters knew. It's a pity that it has disappeared, as the only similar place is LPSG and it's nowhere near as informative.

Long after Ken Ryker was well gone from the porn industry, living back in his hometown in South Dakota, married with kids and more on the way, David Forrest admitted that he'd been contacted by Ken asking him to set up some "meat and greets" for him in LA because he needed money, but it would have be kept VERY quiet so his wife would never find out.

R118, the owner (who owned the original ATKOL porn video store in New Jersey) died and the guy who was the webmaster of ATKOL (who I think lived in Florida) just shut it down.

R119 where did he admit this?

When Joshua Broome was young, he looked like poor Mr. Pamuk.

I still laugh at all the gay porn stars who came to ATKOL to post. They would be qualified by the owner before he'd let them use their porn names on the forum. And without fail that little nest of noxious bitchy queens who infested the forum would immediately set upon them and eventually run them all off. Paul Barresi was there for a short while and he was eviscerated over the John Travolta shanda. He got pissed off and told everyone there to go fuck themselves and fled like the wind. LOL

He doesn’t come up in a search of the California prison system.

Thanks for the intro, OP. Just my type.

I looked him up on Wikipedia and was surprised to discover he's from Worcester, Mass., which is near where I live.

Also, he was a foster child and joined the navy upon coming of age.

After that, he turned to adult work upon being discovered.

^Are you young? Or not heavily into gay porn?

[quote] where did he admit this?

I don't remember if it was at the end of ATKOL or some other forum Forrest posted on. Too many years have passed. Ryker's last porn video was in 20 years ago.

The fact that he hasn't been seen or heard from since his was released from prison makes me think there's the possibility he isn't looking particularly camera ready these days. 11 years locked up will do that to you, I guess. Either that or he's looking fantastic, got really muscled up in prison since there was nothing else to do in protective custody, and once on the street quickly found himself a rich sugar daddy to keep him in a style he wanted to become accustomed to. LOL

What's ATKOL?

I can't even remember when ATKOL finally shut down the forum.

[quote] What's ATKOL?

ATKOL was a porn shop in New Jersey and the owner (Jeff Satkin) started an online chat board that became wildly popular for many years. The store eventually closed and Satkin (who was an old man by then) finally died, and that was the death knell for the forum.

[quote]When I see Boone’s new interviews, I get definite bi vibes.

Richard? Debby? Pat?

R127 you don’t remember because it never happened.

Actually, it did happen R133. I remember it as well and it was discussed in here when it happened. Just click on the link.

Also, Queerty commented on it...

I had a dream my life would be

So different from this hell I'm living

So different now from what it seemed

Now, life has killed the dream I dreamed...

Saw him around 1999 and he had droopy bitch tits. He was in desperate need of a manssiere.

He has caused much spillage of seed here …. Not dwelling on his psycho real life

R117 Go Wank Boomer.

R138 His on screen performances were of the "don't break my mousse" level of passion. He was mostly stunt doubled as a top because pre viagra he had chronic " coke cock" and couldn't get it up.That also killed his hustling career. David Forrest had to pimp him as a bottom. As a top Marky was useless as are most drug addicts. On camera she managed to stick a dick in her sullen mouth maybe twice for 30 seconds. If that caused you to" spill your seed" you're geriatric pornoholic who's only had sex with your Betamax. Get thee back to LPSG with the rest of OP's pathetic stans.

Thank you R134 & R135. You were raised right.

And R133 was obviously raised by wolves.

David Forest was hilarious on ATKOL. He was confused about social media posting protocol, so he would use all-caps if he wanted to emphasize words in his sentencs, which was often. So he posted things like:

"RYAN IDOL is having a MEET AND GREET in WEST HOLLYWOOD at XXX BAR this coming TUESDAY NIGHT at 8PM for ALL of his many BELOVED FANS who just LOVE WATCHING his many SEXY VIDEOS."

Everyone tried to explain to him he sounded like he was shouting, but he would never pay attention.

2 Bottoms do not 1 Top make ....even for 2K a night.

I don't know when or where this was, but he was definitely rockin' the dad bod.

I'm responsible for putting Marky where he is today.

^ and where I am today

[quote] David Forest was hilarious on ATKOL

Poor David, I always felt so sorry for him because of the way that little cabal of beyatches on ATKOL treated him. He was called every name in the book but he never let it get to him. He just kept plugging along with his pornstar alerts being the best huckster for his stable of boys that he could be.

How well I remember when that same little cabal went after the owner of ATKOL when he started selling bareback videos. The young'uns around here won't remember that for years during the AIDS crisis everybody wore rubbers in gay porn videos, then little by little bareback videos started coming out beginning with oral cumshots and cum swallowing that finally moved on to bareback anal. ATKOL didn't sell anything bareback for a while but finally knew they had to if they wanted to stay in business and the bitch crew lost their fucking minds. Well until they saw it wasn't getting them anywhere so they shut up about it.

Any of the old ATKOL crew here remember "Biggs"? I still have bad dreams about that nasty tempered demon from hell, and his little crew of 2 or3 hangers on. He's probably been dead for many years. I remember at one point he said the doctor had given him about 5 years to live. I replied "then maybe you might want to start treating people a little nicer in what time you've got left".

I can't believe Chi Chi LaRue is still making porn. That creature is 64 years old. I wonder if she ever got enough money from her go-fund-me to pay for drug treatment at Betty Ford. I read once that she would show up on a porn shoot, get the action started, and then leave and let the production assistant(s) do all the directing. LOL

[quote]Any of the old ATKOL crew here remember "Biggs"?

YES! He was a nut.

Who was the Jackson guy that was always stirring trouble? I was being nice to him but Stoney was a lil bitch to me. Then his pal, the porn star who spent some time in a sanitarium offered to have sex with me to make up for it.

He looks rather puny standing next to big Ken Ryker. I wonder if Ken hit dat thang.

ATKOL was great until the trolls discovered the site.

Zak Spears beefed out and plumped up but he still looked good, at least for a while.

I would love to see what Ken Ryker looks like these days.

Ken Ryker looks really good. He went back to his natural dark hair, maintained his muscle but put on some body fat so he doesn't look all stretched out. Not quite fit fat but you get the picture. Ryker also grew in all his body hair.

R144. Broadway revival of The Ritz starring Rosie Perez.

I used to have a couple photos of Ken Ryker with his wife and gaggle of kids, but I can't find them anywhere now. He's gained weight, but he still looks sexy, like a real farm man. He's involved in some sort of ministerial work (I assume with his father who is a Baptist minister back in Custer, SD. where he lives).

If I find the photos I'll post them.

With the wife and kid's faces blocked, by the way.

Unfortunately, for the majority of pron performers, unless they did something like bash their girlfriend with the lid off a toilet tank, we rarely get to see them later in life.

I have a bizarre fascination for the old style MTV "where are they now" shows. Even with the internet, some folks just disappear back into obscurity.

This is Ken Ryker at the end of his porn career, after he'd stopped with the blond hair.

try again, r158

Stinky linky

None of imgur's links are working today. Here is the shot at imgBB. They'll probably delete it pretty quick.

[quote]"No truly straight man is doing gay porn. That’s my opinion on the subject."

Hey! I'm totally straight and I've done tons of gay porn!

Gary / Ken Ryker survived the meth but never quite kicked the booze. He's got five kids and is a committed Trumptard. Cliche.

R163 oh my grossness.

oh my madness.

Ladies PLEASE! Let us remember our beloved Porn Gods as they were.

I much preferred the 70's men.

Compared to what we have now they were GODS.

We went to this random gay bar in Honolulu, early 90's. There was a cover charge that they never had before. I asked, whats this for & the bouncer said, "a special appearance tonight". We were cool with it. Had some drinks & then the lights go down, & then the lights come up in a corner & there is Ryan Idol in his Officer & a Gentleman navy whites....... He danced around & eventually gets naked & starts jacking off..... Shoots his load on himself, gets up & out the door in a towel..... It was, at most a 15 min strip tease etc & gone...... It was a very small bar, there had to be 50 people in there. We cracked up, like what the hell was that!!??? Fun of course, but so random.

Were you seated in the Splash Zone?

R140, if you know all that about his filmography you’re far from a spring chicken yourself. So I don’t know who you’re calling geriatric.

For his first movie, "Idol Eyes," he wouldn't even actually top Joey Stefano, so they had to arrange one of the stupidest stunt-dick sequences I have ever seen. You can see someone fucking Stefano while Idol pokes his head into the shot, but it's at such a strange angle it's clear his head is not attached to the dick fucking Stefano. (Stefano in this scene looks completely coked out of his mind.)

Fortunately, they salvaged the film because they discovered that Idol loved in real life to jerk off while looking at his body in a full-length mirror, and so they filmed him doing exactly that. It's the most erotic scene in the whole film--he is so turned on by his own body.

As Ryans go, Idol in his prime might have been a better Ken than Gosling.

Actuallt, as Ryans go Seacrest in his prime would have been the ideal Ken. He had the same cheesy smile, slim broad-shouldered tanned body, and lack of genitalia.

[quote] For his first movie, "Idol Eyes," he wouldn't even actually top Joey Stefano

And that stunt dick was none other than David Ashfield, who stunt dicked for many guys over the years. And it wasn't that Ryan 'couldn't' fuck Stefano, it was that he was too shy to do it on camera and couldn't get it up. It wasn't long before his inhibitions were worn down sufficiently. Enough money will make even the shyest peter stand proud.

My friend dated him. He was a mess. But sexy. But a depressed mess.

Oh. And he’s not straight. At all. Neither is Ryker. They are in denial. If you didn’t grow up in the 80s you don’t get it. Denial. The closet.

No one would fuck a man. Suck a cock. Get fucked. For $500. And then on film forever?! No one. They are NOT straight.

So please. Enough. Enough. I’ve had enough cock and ass from straight married men. In America and in Italy. These are closeted men. I was one.

It’s part of your own fetish to think you fucked or got fucked by a masculine straight man. No. Mary, no. You got fucked or fucked a masculine gay or bisexual man who is in deep denial.

Abasstanza!

Ken Ryker stated in at least one interview back in the day that he was bi-sexual and had had relationships with men and women. Of course he was 100% gay, as are the vast majority of men who claim to be bi. He could do the deed with broads in the bi-sexual videos he did because there were other men in the scenes to keep him aroused, but he wasn't comfortable with pussy when he was in the straight porn 'Taya's Tales'. He had real problems maintaining adequate arousal and was made fun of by the broads on set.

Hopefully the 3rd of Ken Ryker's DUI arrests sufficiently got his attention and he got off the hooch for good. I still remember how sad I was when I read of his 3rd arrest which included a wrecked car. I was sad that he could have killed other people by driving drunk, and that he was driving a Hyundai when he wrecked. Hyundai had not yet started building good cars back in those days.

Being a homo and having the lead a forced straight lifestyle can, I'm sure, be quite detrimental to the emotional well being. Especially when you live in a place like Custer, SD.

R176 Marc only "dated" women. Your friend paid for him .

[quote] he wasn't comfortable with pussy when he was in the straight porn 'Taya's Tales'. He had real problems maintaining adequate arousal

Did he ever have adequate arousal?

R171 Not you. In your case would have antediluvian.

R181 He was adequate at least five times.

I imagine Ryker's homelife must be incredibly miserable hence all the DUIs.

Even the Trumper bullshit seems like a facade to appear more "straight."

r181's scene - lol, he takes sip of coffee while getting a blowjob.

[quote]They’re both Chi Chi LaRue discoveries.

So that's what they call dealing drugs now? Who knew "discovering" them meant killing them.

Tom Katt died last year at age 58.

I'm really sorry to hear about Tom Katt/David Papaleo. He was a very nice guy. He had lots of problems with substance abuse and was even homeless during the Covid pandemic, but he had seemed to have turned his life back around.

I'm glad he at least died in his sleep, although since r187's site is paywalled I can't see what he died of. But being seriously addicted and then living on the streets is really going to do a number on your body.

Wait, I don't think that is Tom Katt after all, r187. Tom Katt was born in 1970 in Georgia, not in 1966 in Nevada.

That doesn't look like him, not that I expected him to look like his pron days. Also, according to several bios, he's only 54 (born in 1970).

I don't think that David Papaleo is the same one as Tom Katt.

That's not Tom Katt.

R187 That's not Tom Katt.

Tom Katt is a born again Christian preacher living in Florida, and he's 54 years old, not 58.

It doesn't look like him. There are probably a small handful of individuals with that same name.

Uh, how many David Papaleo's are there with troubled pasts? And what gay porn star is truthful about their age or background?

He's short just like Tom Katt, and you can tell he's a former muscle guy by his chest. That's definitely Tom Katt.

R194 No, not the same person at all. This has already been discussed.

There are multiple men named David Papaleo on Linked In.

I found the FB page for Tom Katt's David Papaleo, and he does not look like the David Papaleo who just died in Reno. The Tom Katt one lives in Sarasota and is pretty recognizable from his porn days. Here's a recent photo from his FB page.

What’s your evidence that it’s him. You wouldn’t conclude that from the Linkdin page with that picture.

I don't understand your point, r198.

Obviously the David Papaleo whose FB photo I posted at r197 is indeed the former porn star known as Tom Katt, and just as obviously he is not the same guy who died in Reno (who has very different facial features).

The Reno guy who died is NOT the former porn star, who is posted at R197.

The guy upthread who said Ryan Idol only had a cock in his mouth a couple of times in his movies obviously never saw many of them. Idol not only sucked cock a lot, but he did it with such expert skill that it was obvious he did it off camera as well. He also licked several holes, from what I can remember.

My point is merely saying it is obvious fiends make it accurate. Look at the Linkdin page where that picture is used. That is all.

*does not make it accurate

Some queens just can't admit they're wrong.

The guy who died in Reno is NOT Tom Katt the porn star.

If you can't figure that out, then I don't know how to help you.

Both Ken Ryker and Ryan Idol can deep throat typical pron cocks - so not tiny.

You have to practice sucking a lot of cocks to be able to gobble one down that easily without gagging or coughing and have it slide in and out of your throat without flinching.

Wasn't there some big build up to a Ryan Idol bottoming movie that never happened?

That other poster did not say it was the dead guy in Reno. He questioned whether it was correct to say it was the guy in the sunglasses.

Side by side comparison. Look at the noses. Clearly not the same person.

Also, the guy on the right looks exactly like Tom Katt the porn star. The guy on the right is the real deal.

RIP to the poor guy who died in Reno who is not Tom Katt the porn star.

Is it possible that neither is Tom Katt…plenty of older David Papaleos on the interwebs

R209 The guy on the right in R208's picture is clearly Tom Katt.

R180 he’s lying. It’s the resident retard trying to sound “in”!

Maybe the guy with the sunglasses is just one of the doubles a communist dictatorship specially created to look like Tom Katt, just like they specially created doubles for Josef Stalin and Fidel Castro.

R212 Oh, I'm sure of it.

r205 clearly speaks from experience.

I read an interview with Caesar in one of the old porn mags many years ago where he talked about Tom Katt and how he was desperate for a sexual relationship with Caesar off camera, which was not reciprocated. Caesar recounted that TK had actually become rather annoying with his constant begging for Caesar dick.

And dear God, anyone who thinks the David Papaleo in Reno is Tom Katt is blind.

It's CGI!!!

Thanks, that makes sense, R215… I remember them being inseparable but Caesar’s comment in the link @R102 contradicts my memory.

Caesar's cock was nothing to write home about.

Neither was Tom Katt's.

[quote][R205] clearly speaks from experience.

Ironically, one could also make the exact statement due to LACK of experience, as well.

Caesar and Papaleo became veritable freaks. They both clearly suffer from muscle dysmorphia syndrome and have/had a pathological urge to get as big as humanly possible. That picture above of Papaleo holding the drink he looks like he might have slacked off on all the steroids. His face doesn't look nearly as freakish as I remember he was looking a few years back. But it appears Caesar is still juicing.

[quote] You have to practice sucking a lot of cocks to be able to gobble one down that easily without gagging or coughing and have it slide in and out of your throat without flinching.

Have you ever heard of rehearsals and direction? They can be done with a zucchini.

Keke weighs in on the David Papaleo debate....

Caesar was super hot before he roided out.

R209 David Papaleo is looking fabulous!

[quote]The show he did at the Tiffany in LA was called Scent of Rain and he actually got a very good review from the LA Times

I actually saw that play. It was on Sunset. Not bad, but mainly went just to see him naked. He put on a few extra pounds at that point, but once the pants came off knew it was him. We did hear someone screaming at the top of their lungs behind stage before it started. Assuming it was him.

The scene where Ryan passionately wanks to himself in the mirror always does the job .

“It’s only the SCREENS that have gotten small!”