Heartstopper

Hope they had a farewell fuck

Gonna need them to take a pre S4 slutty beach holiday together

Their go-to dance.

It is an insult to Kit and an insult to Joe to pretend that Joe was as good as Kit in season 2. Kit is very good because he puts in the work. He's been a student for a long time. In the GQ interview, he explained very well his acting process. Joe isn't there yet. Do you not think that Joe can improve?

Sweetheart if you think you’re going to convince the thread to shit on Joe by pretending to like Kit, wrong. Go back to fantasizing about your biggest wish for 2024 being bash meeting Charlie’s dog

let's make this thread nice

R5 Only take 20 or so posts for her to start shitting on Kit’s career too, so looking forward to that. Then she’ll walk it back as she does every single time with everything she says.

R5 Friendly conversation and you're already upset. It's quite remarkable. Anyway.

R7 wonder when she’ll circle back around to a Joe bash reunion

R9 or Joe being cute but just needing some posing lessons. Or a no fault divorce and they’re both sweet boys we should leave alone. Or Kit and Joe having a lovely friendship we are all trying to sully. That’s just the flip side shit she’s said since she did her big catfish reveal

come together

R11 my very favourite

R10 Well, yes! Not sure what is wrong with any of these opinions.

R13 Spitballing here, but I'd wager that the problem is that you then turn around and post awful shit about Joe.

R13 what’s wrong with them is you have also screamed hysterically that Joe is hideous, said Kit doesn’t like him (or he doesn’t like Kit), wished career death, online bullying and hatred on him. So your other opinions don’t stack up and it’s deranged to argue both. You’re tedious

I think she’s possibly intending to post from an alt but has got herself in a dither. Maybe the nurses can help you out with your passwords. Did you write them down somewhere?

Carrying over from the chat in the previous thread. I'd argue that Kit improved a lot too, but that tends to be overlooked in those conversations because he started off so strongly to begin with. The work he did in this scene was leaps and bounds above his work in S1.

R14 And you post awful shit about Bash so what is the real problem?

Since we’re on the bash stan subject, I loved the person who said in a CC earlier, trying to shade Joe, that bash seemed much happier in this relationship because he doesn’t like to travel for more than a few days. Not sure how it’s anything but an indictment on bash that he expects his boyfriends to make way more effort but hey

R18 I've never been duplicitous about it. I've been clear about not liking Bash even before the break-up.

R18 don’t think it’s overlooked tbh (or I don’t). Neither could have pulled this off in S2 and both are beautiful here

R19 He got into the wrong line of work if he doesn't like to travel. I think it's less that he doesn't like to travel and more that he's a shit boyfriend.

R27 oh I think they honestly improved across the board. I think Joe, kizzy, and will just had the biggest most noticeable improvements. Kit also stepped it up, he just had more experience and was already very polished S1. Joe and kit bodied that last scene so so well and killed their respective big confrontation scenes in episode 7 too. If Alice didn’t fuck it up, S3 after kits led an indie and joes co led agatha will be emotionally devastating

Whoa that was obviously meant for R17

R22 Charlie seems more than content. People breaking up because they want different things is not dramatic. Happens all the time.

R25 Being the partner putting in all of the effort gets old eventually.

R22 You are very generous to think he's ever going to travel much for work. I do think it's true he doesn't want to travel for anyone, which makes him a shit boyfriend by default but even with friends, he's never once gone to see Connor for example. Guess Billy is the chosen one since he spent weeks with him and monks.

R23 It’s also one of the only scenes that’s more than 4 minutes. I hope Alice wrote longer scenes like the final scene for season 3. I get that they tried to create viral clips but I don’t think any scenes went viral in season 2 like the coming out scene, the first kiss scene or the photo-booth scene.

Nothing went super viral with S2, think the end scene and the hickey scene were probably the most popular. Maybe Charlie passing out or Eiffel tower

R28 Examples coming to mind right now are the Mon Amour scene or "You do know it was me, right?" but both are more light-hearted than S1's viral moments. Maybe the kiss montage would have went viral if they included it in the Tudum sneak peek with Shatter, since it happens right after the opening scene. I know they still released the kiss montage before the release date, but it was less publicized than Tudum.

Also, don't know if S2 had a big music moment like Nick reacting to Tara/Darcy in Clearest Blue, Nick/Charlie playing in the snow to Dance with Me, or the big damn kiss to Moment in the Sun. It's not that S2 didn't make great use of its soundtrack, but S1 had more swooping moments. For S2, though, Paradise (park kiss) and Never Be the Same (running to the train) seem to be big favourites. Charlie taking Nick's hand to run for the train is such a sweet sequence and probably one of the most popular for people calling Charlie an amazing boyfriend.

S3 should have lots of potential for music moments. It looked like Joe and Leila had fun filming the band stuff at the carnival.

R27 I don't know why I didn't realize that Bash has never gone to Connor until you pointed it out. Shitty friend.

R29 Eiffel Tower scene went triple platinum on TikTok, a bunch of Nick fancams with millions of views start off with that clip. I think the last Nick and Charlie scene was the most popular on Twitter because it's a scene that lends itself to discussion.

R31 That's a lot of projection. From both Connor and Charlie, they don't think Bash is a shitty friend or partner and ultimately they are the only ones who matter in that equation.

R30 The "Never Be The Same" beat drop into the credits was done so well. The song ended up making it into my top 5 for the year on Apple Replay.

Going through TikTok now, Sarah dragging David did pretty well. 1.4M likes.

Second most-liked scene on there from S2 is Nick coming out at dinner.

R33 Same on Spotify! Gabrielle herself is all about the transition into the credits.

Joe and Kit running in Paris had such fanfare, too, that it was nice to see the full results months later. Editing team is really good.

R31 I’ve thought about the connor stuff before because it was so weird to me that Connor will go spend weeks at a time freeloading off the crofts but didn’t visit Joe except to take free TS tickets from him, and that bash wouldn’t just come visit the states for 2 weeks and spend a few of the days Joe was busiest working hanging out with Connor in Toronto or NY

R36 They changed editing team for season 3, right?

R37 I remember our delusions that Connor was helping him move. Which he wasn't moving for weeks anyway and Joe said he'd just give away things like his mixer and not take them, so he probably didn't have much. So his old ass really just showed up for VIP tickets

R37 Good thing you are not Connor or Bash or Joe.

R38 Yeah, the woman that edited S1 solo and half of S2 isn't coming back. Not sure if guy that edited the other half of S2 is coming back or if they're getting all new editors entirely.

Not sure if we knew this already, but according to IMDb the Spain Unit Manager is credited on two episodes (3x02 and 3x03).

I really wanna know if the New York and Singapore locations were legit.

R42 Makes sense. Charlie will probably leave for inpatient care at the end of episode 3.

R41 pretty sure the guy said he wasn’t at well - I wonder about that because with a little reading between the lines of the interview with him (sorry - don’t keep the links on hand) they had to work hard during the edit to keep the story centred on Nick and Charlie. I suspect the other 20 side characters had even more expanded scenes and would have been even more prominent without their input. We could have done with Imogen having as much as she had and Cori taking that screen time but we know where HS (Patrick) stand on her.

R45

I’ve been thinking a lot about why the ensemble focus just doesn’t work for HS, and I’m realizing I think a large part of it is Alice grew up watching sitcoms like friends or even stuff like glee, where they really were ensemble projects and a thousand storylines happened. The issue is, those shows had 24 episodes a season, literally triple the time HS does, to develop those characters and make us care. She needs to realize with 1/3 the time she needs to trim the fat a lot and in this case the fat is every side character having a plotline

R47 She likes Derry Girls, she should learn from how that show kept the focus on the girls and James, with primary focus on Erin. In this case, primary focus should be on Nick and Charlie.

R48 derry girls is excellent

R47 Tbh I just think Alice is a shit writer. I’ve watched plenty shows with the same time limit as hs and they were able to flow many storylines at the same time.

[Quote] We were looking for ways to blend the show’s different storylines with each other, and that turned out to be one of the big challenges. It was all about balancing and not losing characters. You know, it could have been quite easy to forget about Nick and Charlie every now and again, because now we had Darcy and Tara, and others.

This is just one example. He basically says the same thing a few ways - making sure Nick and Charlie remained the core was difficult but his main focus.

R45 Speaking of Imogen, I read this a couple days ago and can't believe people want shit like this. Patrick would be pleased.

Of course the person randomly didn't know Ben wasn't coming back either, but they basically made her the MC of S3 and the victim of homophobia who had been burned twice and can't trust any longer. Like she had a little crush on Nick and Ben wanted to fuck the twink and not her, but it's not like she's truly suffered in any relationship she had. Enjoyed them writing a confrontation about Charlie's mental health issues between Nick and Imogen though. Fucking crazy.

Reading the breakup thread is like being in a fever dream. Can’t believe there was a time where Bash had more fans on these threads than Kit.

R52 What the fuck did I just read?

R51 I wonder if they deleted any scenes besides the one with David and Nick in Episode 3. That episode was pretty packed and could have maybe trimmed some supporting character scenes.

R54 Patrick's reddit account

The show already has a split focus with co-leads whose story is obviously centred on each other but has different elements of their own. They don’t live together and in this case they weren’t even in the class room together (bit strange as Alice loves a call back and they are some of the most notable scenes in S1). They have home lives, seperate relationships with their friends, and intertwined but individual conflicts. It’s already a lot to squeeze into four hours and Alice is splitting that time further. S3 could be a mess

R52 oh so there are even worse writers than alice

R53 eh post coming out think a lot more Kit fans joined the thread. I think all the guys have gone through “boring” periods of giving us no content. Jan through march 2022 the threads were very Kit heavy because Joe was silent. Of course breakup threads won’t be full of much Kit discussion for obvious reasons lol

R57 Looks like the boys were on set longer than anyone else so that’s a good indicator

R53 think a number of Kit fans became more vocal after Joe fans realised Bash was a dick and they didn’t have to compete with the thirsting about their relationship (I just can’t). Also, some Kit fans have definitely made their way here post break up and S2 which is presumably because they didn’t like Bash to start with or just became interested in Kit and sought out other not-biphobic gays to thirst about him with

R59 Talking more about the fans who were thirsting over Bashs cock at the play and his hairy legs. The troll would have been happy

R60 I’m relying on your optimism to sustain me here. That and the editors

R57 I'm not worried about Nick/Charlie focus being centered, but my big question mark is how they're going to balance Higgs going forward. Elle is going to Lambert for sixth form, and Sahar goes to Truham for sixth form in the comics. Imogen/Sahar creates a curveball: either they both stay at Higgs in the show, or they both move to Truham, or Imogen stays at Higgs and Sahar goes to Truham.

If they both go to Truham, that leaves Tara/Darcy alone at Higgs. Well, Tori and Michael go to Higgs but Alice isn't adapting Solitaire, so I expect their scenes will be semi-unique to the show.

R62 Pretty sure that half of those comments were Lee. I still dry-heave remembering their description of seeing down his shirt at his little community theater thing. Anyway (I refuse to cede use of this word to the hag), I figured the tide would turn on Bash when the mask dropped and waited around until that happened.

R62 I was laughing at that too (think Troll was here tbh). The really serious few fucked off when the tide turned but there are a few converts who would rather not go over that period too closely. I myself definitely threw him thirst but usually in relation to them being hot together. I think (hope)

R62 oh yeah I honestly think some people found him decently attractive or even very attractive but he’s suffered twink death and also his behaviour is a real turn off. That said would say it’s a vocal minority. Even pre breakup when people really liked him, he was always last in attractiveness ranks. He was always least attractive of Joe, Kit, will, and him to me though

This is what I looked like reading these threads and seeing everyone realize that Bash sucked all along.

Can proudly say though I was nice enough to not voice it on these threads pre him turning out to be a dick to Joe that I always thought bash was punching insanely out of his league. Looks and talent wise but also he just didn’t seem as smart or witty as Joe either.

R65 I was a huge Bash defender who the Crofts have yet to pay and it was pretty obvious everyone would turn on him. I mentioned it before during one of Bash's dumb issues everyone had to defend him for. Maybe the Olivia attention whoring thing, but said that nobody was going to be team Bash when they broke up. Not sure why his fans are so shocked. He was barely hanging on with the full strength of the Joe fans defending him and Kit fans being mostly respectful and silent waiting it out

R69 Yeah, part of why he kept getting into shit when it came to Ben was because he’s not particularly bright or insightful and not great at articulating his thoughts in interviews.

R68 mate if you look like that can I have your details

'Twink death' and it's him looking like an adult and not a teenager. That says a lot. Anyway, the gays that matter all follow him because he is hot.

R68 Bitch you should have warned us more

R71 I'm certain it has more to do with the insane homophobia in the fandom. Anyway, Joe was very very in love with his hot boyfriend back then. He knew he was lucky and Bash was way above his league.

R72 I look more like Joe than like Kit (as in, I tan and have the same curls).

R74 I tried! The Joe/Bash fraus would accuse me (and everyone else that'd point out when he was off) of being bitter Joe/Kit shippers.

R76 if you look like joe I am still interested in the details

Anyway, this is the bash stan cc about how he doesn’t travel. Literally saying he’s more relaxed because he doesn’t have to make any effort is a choice. And the Ils girl replying she gets why “they’re not constantly travelling” when Charlie went to London for weeks twice and to visit bash in Finland and bash hasn’t set foot in America for him is hilarious

R76 the way you got trashed

R71 This is making the rounds and reminds me that Joe comes off as smart and passionate in good measure. I get the impression that Kit & company really admire that about him. Pretty sure it was Kizzy that said Joe would be great in a debate.

R71 Bash is dumb but let’s not act as if the fandom didn’t hate Bash from the get go. They have a hard on for “holding the cast accountable” wtv that means

R80 That’s why I said part of. The fans were champing at the bit and he made it easier for them with how inarticulate he was.

I know you guys are delusional but backing up the insane fandom that ran Joe and Kit off Twitter is a new low.

R77 Pretty good arrangement for Bash. He gets a thirsty twink who constantly hypes him up online and travels to him, doesn't have to actually do anything for it, Bash makes the guy wear clothes Joe wore and he doesn't mind and then can spend his time on Raya and flirting with other guys while Charlie is away. Though is fans not realizing he's a pretty shitty boyfriend in return is typical

R79 Kit's described Joe as smart a bunch of times, this clip came to mind.

R79 yeah I think a fair few of the cast come off as quite bright, so for everyone to consistently say joe is the smartest, he must be whip smart

Also at around 2:50.

R83 It's kind of sad and pathetic how you guys are more concerned about this than Charlie, Bash's boyfriend. I'm sensing some personal drama is the cause of that.

R84 given it was right after the breakup, the wording of “if you care about someone you REALLY care” has always been interesting to me.

R86 Damn it hurts seeing them be so carefree and open

R88 At the time I thought it might have been about the break-up, but in retrospect I wouldn't be surprised if it was referring to Joe being there for Kit through all of the shit he went through.

R84 This clip had me racking my brain for days because I couldn't figure out why "He's one of the smartest people I know" sounded so familiar. It eventually hit me that it's similar to dialogue from Normal People, which I'm sure is eternally part of Kit's lexicon.

R86 Nice clip of Kit complimenting Bash and gushing over him.

R90 I’m sure he was extremely supportive tbf so you may be right, just always felt really interesting that he started with “when you care you really care” which is unusual wording imo

I see she’s back to calling Joe ugly. What happened to your sweet reasonable persona at the top of the thread? That’s right, can’t hold on to it for second if Bash is mentioned. Assume you’re about to spiral again into insane vitriol that is hypocritically far worse than anything thrown at Bash here. Watch out for that that hate speech line, girl

R94 If you don't want me to come for Joe don't come for Bash, it's simple. Kids aren't as slow.

R94 She's mad her fav has no ass, lips, pecs, jaw, leading roles or anything but his family's money. I'd also say the best thing about him, his eyes are pretty mid when you got Joe too.

anyway, appreciate Lucca fumbling and posting this picture of Joe.

You come for Joe when Bash hasn’t been mentioned for hours, you sad old Hag. You bring up Bash if no one else has. As I said earlier, I find it almost difficult to believe you’re a fan as you are desperate for him to be discussed here.

R96 joes face is so gorgeous. His huge dark eyes are so nice. Will also add he has a beautiful speaking voice and bashs is, putting it mildly, nasal

R97 You came for Bash just now. Are you slow and stupid? I feel sorry for you because at this point it's alarming.

R96 Joe untagged himself and you're still proudly posting this picture. Poor Joe. He has the dumbest fans.

R98 Bash himself described his voice as shrill, so the elderfrau shouldn't get her granny panties in a twist over that.

Anyway, in your fave's own words, 'Bash is so photogenic'.

R96 there hasn’t been enough of this on the thread recently so I’m just going to bring back this energy: the way I would sell everything to have those lips wrapped around my dick JFC

R103 imagine fumbling this man. All the best bash

R104 Bash is doing more than fine, don't worry.

How long do you guys think it takes Bash and Charlie to run through their lines together? 2 or 3 minutes total?

R106 Less that that, though even hearing Bash's voice for 2 minutes would send me over the edge. Can't ever get over that video he posted of him screeching for Charlie. Joe was strong to endure that for two years.

Anyway. Bitterness ain't cute.

Random but pretty cool, The Guardian started their Best of 2023 round-up and the first piece is Kit's profile.

R109 that’s really cool. I hope both he and joe get more longform walk and talk pieces next year.

Unrelated but I will never understand why Frau posts clips of joe praising bash nonstop to try to prove something. Yes, we know joe is a sweetheart, adored him, and was an incredible generous boyfriend. No comparable clips of bash praising joe exist. He literally on his grid celebrated his bf losing an Emmy. Again, what a self own

R109 That was a great interview. Still can’t get over the lack of content after the strikes were over. No vlogs, no interviews, nothing.

R107 Bash had to endure Joe's insane homophobic and hateful fans. Glad that's over. No wonder he looks so at peace since he started dating Charlie.

R109 Easily my favorite interview of his.

R111 We got fucked so hard.

R110 She is not the smartest. Legit don't remember Bash saying anything much nice about Joe other than the one time he quoted someone else saying he was cool. His birthday, he did better stories for other people and ended the day posting about Kit, year in review last year, posted Will, Emmy's, posted Kit (and Bash's family also celebrated Kit and ignored Joe's nomination). It's not an own to mention how adoring Joe was of Bash for every single thing he did even if it was very underserved.

R111 RIP the vlogs

I’m legit praying that Joe replaces his PR. Next fall he should be fucking EVERYWHERE. And after Kit is done filming a24 and it’s announced, his already excellent PR will be able to do a lot

R114 I guess being a Joe stan comes with amnesia and a stick up the butt. Bash has supported Joe online and physically. Congratulated him on everything Joe did from the IOM law he called out to his role in the Trials play. Bash posted Joe constantly on his IG. Welcomed him into his home, traveled with him, and moved him into his Atlanta apartment even though he had rehearsals for his new play. Bash was going above and beyond for Joe.

I do love that everything Frau mentions bash posting about joe, Kit also posted about, often more excitedly. Bash ignored Joe winning a WOS award btw. Likely jealous and knew his own regional play would not have such results

R117 Insanity since Bash never showed a sign of jealousy toward Joe. There's no reasoning with mentally ill, bitter, and jealous people. Anyway, Bash is hot and thriving.

I’m watching the Tiktok page of the intimacy coordinator someone posted here and I’m laughing at the heartstopper comments. Some fans are asking her if Joe and Kit really kissed on the show. Isn’t it obvious?

Joe's Story.

R117

R120 Bless him. That’s a very late flight. Ready for Joe on Broadway era. I feel like he’s going to be more active.

R119 do they want them to or not to? Hstt seems like a whole other thing - and the Kit stans seem extremely possessive/straight girls. Which is absolutely fine, Kit’s not queer property, just not sure how that effects their view of the physical intimacy on the show. Often seems like they wouldn’t really care if the show was queer or not tbh (again, whatever, it is).

R120 kickoff time I guess.

R121 tbf that’s one of his warmer ones

R123 I think they're just stupid.

Joe must be so excited. Straight into rehearsals I’m sure

R121 Why not just say you hate Bash because he came in the way of your ship? That would save so much time and would explain so much. Although, poor you, that's never gonna happen.

I know we all, presumably, have full time jobs but I sure as hell wasn’t running from job to job at 19. Not just normal jobs either but ones that involve long hours and full concentration and attention. I know he’s been fortunate that roles that fit him have come up, and that he’s extremely talented so he’s booking them but guy is also hustling hard. Good for him

R125 should have guessed really

R127 It's true. It's also why Ncuti doesn't like Bash. He's a broken-hearted Joe/Kit shipper.

R130 Social media means nothing. Troye doesn't follow Kit either and he met him multiple times. I'm sure Ncuti forgot to follow back and doesn't have negative thoughts about Bash, like any normal person.

R128 his work ethic is insane

Forgot to follow him when they worked together, forgot to follow him after the GQ MOTY event, forgot to follow him the 200 times Bash has tagged him in Stories...

Joe reposted a TikTok recently about the hardships teachers are put through. He’s super social Justice committed but that’s especially sweet given his mother.

R134 Your dedication to looking stupid for your hatred of Bash is quite inspirational. Keep at it. R134 So he's on TikTok but didn't see the Starbucks ban? That's so interesting for a guy who's supposedly super into social justice.

The tangential conversation going on are hilarious but how anyone can be a cunt about Joe posting something in support of teachers particularly as his Mum has worked as one his whole life is pretty low, even for Lee. I guess some are just so full of poison they have to be cruel about every single thing.

It's so funny to see the people in this thread be cunts to Bash daily, bring up the breakup, shit on his boyfriend, his looks, and whatnot, and then act like white ladies who clutch their pearls when someone returns the energy. Hilarious.

R136 if we’re running a numbers game, bash has posted, not just reposted, 8 tiktoks since Noah schnapp’s dumbass IG statement and still likes his posts so if the logic is that time online=knowing all problematic things…

Joe was for sure at JFK or whatever, right? I assumed because of the picture of the cabs in the background, but I've seen 2 people claim that it's an Australian airport.

R139 it legitimately looks like Melbourne but I don’t think I’ve ever seen those murals (though I’ve mainly flown into Sydney)

R140 Isn’t Lucy there? Or one of his friends from home?

I zoomed right in the second I saw it before anyone commented about Australia because I also had that thought. Not sure why but it really looks like airports here

Ok I’m actually not sure this is New York. I am a weirdo so I googled. There are two NY area airports that have international flights. One uses terminal A, B, and C. The other uses numbers but, and this is odd, it doesn’t have a terminal 2. Was shut down earlier this year. So he might actually be in Australia or somewhere lmao.

R141 She was there for a bit before her term started in the fall at Chichester, I think.

It does look exactly like Melbourne airport.

I’m sure T2 is common across the world but we have them in both major cities (T1 T2 T3 for the terminals). It’s also 6pm here not 2am if that’s a factor

Also to add, the taxis in the background mural picture of his story don’t look like NYC taxis unless the photo is really washed out, they do look closer in colour to Australian taxis. What on earth is he doing in Australia?

R145 should have trusted my instinct. God knows why but he’s fucking here (well 1000km away, which isn’t bad for here). Hope he wasn’t hoping for warm weather because apparently Melb is having a shithouse summer

Here’s some more info I guess

R149 For once the Twitter girlies are winning

R147 Melbourne has yellow taxis and I thought they looked like the ones here which is why I was originally suss. But I’ve been to NYC a handful of times so I didn’t want to make calls about taxis. I think that picture on the wall is of Collins St.

R150 god fucking damn it I should have spoken my slightest suspicion

London to Melbourne flights disembark at T2, so everything lines up.

R151 yeah I just know the NYC ones are a darker yellow. The rest is google. But that building in the pic is in Melbourne so

R151

I mean damn he wasn’t just posting an ‘off to work we go’ story it was literally ‘can you guess?’ I let the side down

R154 yep, that’s Collin St

Sounds like he posted the Story with a delay, so he might have been traveling when we suspected.

Australian anon go find him. He might need a NYE hookup

And person who said he turned off tags due to travel has figured out his trick.

He really keeps us on our toes. Love him. I don’t care if it’s cold. He needs to go to the beach and get his tits out for pics

Surprised he’s even telling us he’s there

R158 one of my better deductions

R157 me and this girl, sitting in our misery.

R159 I mean he can go to a Melbourne beach if he wants but it would be a choice (sorry, can’t help it, it’s a thing here). Hopefully he comes up to Sydney (so I can avoid all of Oxford St so I don’t run into him for fear I’ll completely embarrass myself)

R162 here, Joe can problem solve the Melbourne Sydney beach debate and take slutty topless pics at both to declare the winner.

R158 I left the comment about the quiet plus the turned off tags potentially meaning he was on vacation in the last thread and was then thrown by the Lucca shit, which is still weird.

Maybe he’s got a thing for shitty fireworks over a muddy river for NYE celebrations. Cannot fathom being there for NY and not here looking at Sydney fucking harbour. But sure - family I guess

This is legit based on NOTHING, but wonder if there’s a family wedding or something? Feel like the timing is so random for justa visit unless there’s a legit event happening

R166 it is usually hellishly hot at this time of year there so not really a great time for functions. As I’m now an unreliable source I’m probably best to keep my mouth shut. Nothing is on down there at the moment. Cricket just finished (though Joe has never spoken or shown the slightest interest) and the Open doesn’t start for two weeks and the doesn’t get good for a week. Obviously he’ll be in NY by then

British Vogue cut together Joe and Kit’s skincare routines and the contrast is so fucking funny.

R167 Still possible he’s there with a friend no? Didn’t he do something similar last year?

R169 yeah ofc. I’m being a cunt but I’ve lived there before and Melbourne is actually great and a cool place to visit. Just shit weather, beaches and NYE fireworks (specifically).

R169 I don't think so, if I'm remembering correctly he spent NYE on the IOM with his friends and Bash.

R168 this is adorable. Both of them and I love it when Kit slips into Himbo mode.

R171 He did. He barely traveled when he was with Bash. Truly living his best life now

R171 Another example of Bash being a supportive boyfriend. Truly makes your unhinged, deranged delusional lies more entertaining.

Asked Melb mates and unsurprisingly there are a couple of good parties and recoveries over NYE and day. Told one of the few mates who knows exactly how deep I go on this shit to keep an eye out for Joe - exact response

[Quote] gd luck - i’ll never be able to spot him through the swarm of twink loving faggots he’ll attract

Obviously, we were joking around and Joe at dirty gay day parties isn’t on brand at all, but a gay can dream

All the Americans too busy screaming, he’ll have left Aus and actually be in NYC by the time they realise lmao. I assume he’s ringing in the New Year here then heading to NY

Celebrating New Years Eve in Melbourne tomorrow, I’ll look for him DL lol

R177 Just a note for the frauds: I’m not actually going to stalk Joe out, trollop.

R177 and here I was thinking I was the only Australian here. I will stop piling on shit about Melb’s fireworks

You guys are amazing - how did you get Melbourne from that pic

Hope we get details of why Joe is there … family wedding sounds a possibility

R177 If you run into him, tell him to raise his standards in men.

R180 unfortunately Twitter suggested it and others googled the pics while I was basically useless as Tits on a Bull. This will be my shame

R181 I’ll imply it through ‘Happy New Year’ haha!

R180 I’m here for the first time for a year but I did arrive at that same terminal/case pick-up not long ago and it’s recognisable

Do any other airports look similar to that though? Someone said Manchester but sunny why the heck he’d be there

It's Melbourne

R185 it’s Melbourne. The picture in the background is the corner of Collins and Russel St in the CBD and that’s the baggage carousel

He also did 24 hours of travel which checks out with turning his tags off. It is brutal trip even Business class

He confirmed it himself.

why can’t lurkers here just ‘lurk’ ?

This poor girl is going through it.

R191 her and I.

Looks like somewhere the Great Ocean Road to me, which would mean a family visit I’d reckon, as it’s a regional stretch. Beautiful but hours out of the city. Also 100s of kilometres long and dotted with lots of towns so could be anywhere. So I guess if you live along there between say Geelong and Warrnambool, keep an eye out

The fake fan cast for Young Avengers is making the rounds again and people believing that some random ‘spoiler account’ would know that Kit has joined it and playing Joe’s love interest again.

Did Joe remove the tag from Sofi's post?

Love that all Brady's nine most liked posts of the year are all Kit

Obviously

R195 Cute that he reposted the British Vogue video from R168.

R194 Apparently it was, good for Joe if he wants to stay away from there

R194 yup

R197 Are you sure he wants to stay away from there?

He did like Tal's last Instagram post.

Zionism isn't a turn-off for him.

Is this from the wrap party?

R200 nvm i just saw that its from brad’s post

He’s so telegenic. Kit too. Hopefully whoever does the lighting and coloring next season doesn’t either wash them out like they did to Joe s1 or use a jaundice filter like they did s2

R197 I don't think a like means that much, it could have been the message of the tattoo

R203 Lego needs to get a life he’s so embarrassing. R200 It doesn’t look like a wrap party. Maybe just a random gathering.

R204 Yeah, it's Bradley's 2023 wrap-up reel so could be from any point in the year.

the mere thought of it lol

Not really worth linking to LPSG for, especially since shirtless Joe was basically the first thing this thread thought of after realizing he was in Australia.

This keeps making me laugh whenever I see it. In the alternate universe where Heartstopper is het, Charlie would probably be in a love triangle with the Nelson brothers.

R208 remembering the disastrous kit/Joe/bash dynamic. Joe basically not getting a word in and getting dismissed by his boyfriend, Kit trying to include him and a bit weirded out by bash, bash nonstop attention seeking

R200 I could be wrong, but the length of Cori's braids and Kizzy's hair makes me think the video is from sometime during the summer.

Did they shoot at a zoo for S3?

R210 Everyone waving while Kit bites his lip. Typical.

R209 When I linked it, I was going to say I couldn't remember Heartstopper having an equivalent interview dynamic since the banter between the cast is pretty natural and cute. But the "basement" trio truly had its moments. Joe's cute sweater paws and embarrassed shoving of Kit can stay, though.

R212 Throwing away timeline calculations to baselessly claim that they were recording a video for Joe while he was gone and that's why Kit went with a lip bite.

R211 No clue, but there was that time a fan spotted most of the cast doing exterior filming for a scene we couldn't place. I think from the same day Joe and Tobie did their Tiktok car videos.

R213 yeah and kits sort of “haha he’s been flirting with me all day” trying his best to play bashs weird behavior off. Joe was extremely cute in it still, you’re right.

R216 Bash was more annoying than usual but I didn’t feel like that was the vibe. They all seemed to be very close back then.

R217 I mean I don’t think either Joe or Kit hated bash at the time very obviously but I do think that was the dynamic. Kit didn’t seem pissed or anything but definitely seemed to sense that Joe was speaking the least of them and would look at him when he was answering and tried to draw him out a bit, and bash was basically only speaking to kit and brushed Joe off. Don’t think it’s inconceivable kit noticed that.

God bless these fans

R219 Especially delusional because not even dick would be enough to make someone willingly go to Australia.

R220 Been told not scout Aussie dick whilst I’m here because it’s shit and they’re arogant as fuck so you got a point

I do think though that he would be a bit more respectful to an ex of two years than to be publicly fucking someone new post breakup, which is why I’m skeptical of breakup specifically.

Fraulein are you meaning to comment your latest delusion elsewhere? Also cursed alien/barbie, shut up

R223 I had to take her off ignore to see what she could possibly be whining about and having read it I'm still confused.

R224 It was a quote from one of you right after Joe poster his hookup on main. It’s fun to read old threads when you losers were actually rational and sensible. All that went out the window when it was clear that Joe did something to upset Bash’s family.

Neither of them owed each other anything in terms of fucking other people from the moment they broke up, but it's funny that a Bash stan is trying to act like Joe was the disrespectful one when Bash found himself a replacement twink within a month and slotted him into the exact same spot Joe held. Sharing the same clothes he shared with Joe, the matching jewelry, taking him on dates with his weirdo sister.

R226 It’s interesting to witness the switch up. You losers had empathy and thought rationality about the situation back then. Why would Joe post a hookup on main after breaking up a 2 year relationship? “Even for him, that’s a bit wild”, “I doubt Joe would post his hookup on main so soon after a breakup knowing Bash’s family follows him”.

Hey blackbarbie0303 (artist formally known at cursed alien) how about you head back to Twitter where you can post and like misogynistic shit to your hearts desire. I see you

R227 Sis, I was thrilled when they broke up and I never had any empathy for him. I thought he was weird before and I still think he's weird.

R226 Bash stans are their logic. Fucking someone casually for a weekend a couple weeks after the breakup and never seeing him again is disrespectful slut behavior. Getting a new boyfriend replacement all your friends and family follow a couple weeks after that is husband behavior.

R221 As Australian dick I’m offended. As a user of Australian dick you’re not without point, but I offer the counter argument of size.

I knew an Australian dick and he was a very nice guy. Though he lived half the time in New Zealand so maybe that balanced things out.

Lee back to hating Joe and suggesting cheating. Someone tell me when she loves Joe and just hates us again. That switch up is the most fun

R232 can’t claim ‘nice’ as a key attribute of Aussie gays, no. That must be the kiwi influence

Lmao everyone calling Joe messy and saying he’s so so young so he doesn’t know better is hilarious. What a time.

R233 Maybe getting there since she's coming for people who said Joe was acting messy after the breakup now and saying we switched up.

Not everyone did, but looking at it now, Joe was never being messy and a lot of people said this at the time too. He was single and finally free and was just being himself and acting like a normal 19 year old gay guy, but being with Bash had stripped him of any and all personality so people weren't used to him being open and fun. They were used to him acting boring and spending his birthday with Bash's weird family and never posting on social media. Even when they dated everyone knew when Bash wasn't around since Joe would act differently

R235 It’s evident the sensible and rational dlers left this thread after the break up. What you are saying doesn’t make sense at all. Would make more sense if you just said “yeah, I hate Bash and Joe can never do anything wrong” because trying to rationalize Joe posting his hookup on main is insanely hilarious.

R235 definitely people saying - you say messy, I say getting his personality back, then clarification from OP that messy isn’t a bad thing. Being young, gay and messy is a very normal and fun thing.

We read the threads too mate

The person who said Joe was messy is very much someone who is still here and hates Bash now. We didn’t switch it up, we got more information and adjusted our worldview. It was a rough journey for many

Apparently, Maia’s mom and brother still follow Kit. I didn’t know this. Kit really lucked out with Maia as an ex.

R239 Yeah, they had the chillest break-up. Her friends still follow him, his friends still follow her, and he still follows her finsta.

R237 Pretty sure I said messy or something along those lines, though wasn't the only one, but I will own up to it, but I was more worried about Nick than Joe. Turns out the young nobody fromer grocery store clerk was the chilliest hookup and has never mentioned Joe at all. So apologies to OF nick for thinking poorly of him for no reason. Bash remains a cunt though, so nothing for him.

R238 Indeed it was.

Kit also still follows several of her close friends. Besides, they may still be seeing each other. Just low-key and infrequent. We can guess, but we can never really know.

As the person you’re quoting, darling Fraulein, lots has been reevaluated since. For instance the 60 year old mother and 35 year old sister holding grudges are far stranger than the 19 year old rebounding. And the person acting petty and vengeful while he actively moves on with a new twink doesn’t have any high ground to stand on with the other rebounding but overall keeping it very classy with no dramatic unfollows from his friends, family, etc.

R243 The sister mentions reminds me of her blocking someone from DL for defending OF Nick and then going private. One one why are reading comments about Joe and his hookup, two why are you blocking people who say don't publicly shame some random young gay man in Atalanta. Still one the crazier things that happened this year.

Anway, if you are still here, it's a badge of honor to be blocked by Steph. So good on you.

Just as a quick aside since calling barbie0303 out for misogyny she’s gone and liked feminist tweets in last hour. Girl, so transparent and you will fuck up again because you always do. Maybe time to switch up your account here and try a new strategy

R240 Sometimes I come across people wondering why Joe and Bash haven't unfollowed each other, so I'm guessing they don't know about their finstas. I imagine something big would have to happen for them to publicly unfollow, at least in the near future.

It’s pretty rare for public figures to unfollow each other. It’s why the Ncuti Yaz fall out is so fucking interesting. It’s basically the most interesting gossip we’ve had since the break up and there is no clues at all. It’s been real disappointment tbh

R242 Nah, she moved on and has dated other guys since then, one more seriously than she did Kit. There's also been 0 effort to see each other in person. (Also, no shade, but I blocked you for a second to check your post history because I thought you might be the elderfrau trying to argue that they're only civil because they're still seeing each other and not because they're both more mature than Bash and co. and you unironically asked if Kit and Jonathan Anderson were dating so you might not have a sense for this kind of thing.)

R244 Yeah, I'm still here. It's still crazy to me that all I did was like 2 or 3 replies defending OF Nick under Connor's post.

R246 The one thing I could see happening is Maia removing Kit from her finsta if she does a purge and only keeps people she's still close with or something.

R242 Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think they’ve seen each other at all in over a year.

With Kit and Maia, I'm sure they're chill for genuine reasons but there's the added element of probably working together again to a certain extent if they have to do press or appearances together for their movie. I'm not sure how extensive the press will be, but even just the mere possibility would make me want to maintain a good rapport.

R248 Oh you didn't even comment, just liked comments which is even more weird of her.

And Joe doesn't unfollow anyone on IG and Bash probably won't unfollow if he won't even remove pictures of Joe. Guess they did unfollow on their finstas, tiktok and Joe unfollowed him on Spotify, but Joe's IG seems too work official for him to do unfollows there.

R248 not calling out the gay who asked a very DL question. Not having an go, just funny. Originally thought he was trolling but he was literally just getting the lay of the land. No shade to him either - without context it wasn’t unreasonable question. Age gaps frowned upon in this thread basically like no other on DL (unless Madden is involved - he gets read for filth for dating young men but that’s a whole story really).

R252 No that was my point, that they lacked context in both cases (Maia seeing other guys, Jonathan having a long-term partner).

R253 I got it - I enjoyed the comparison

R251 I guess Bash could softblock to force a mutual unfollow, but that's super hypothetical territory since I don't even know what would trigger that. Even if Joe got into a serious relationship, he might not be the type to put it all over his public account. More hypothetical territory.

R249 Find it unlikely Maia's made a trip anywhere close to Kit without posting about it on IG, so doubtful they've seen each other since Kit went to Argentina to visit her. Like someone mentioned, she was also dating someone pretty seriously for awhile.

R256 closest I think is they were both in NY at around the same time but the serious guy was actually there visiting her exactly then. Other than then she’s been working or in Argentina (during the strikes). I have a vague recollection she may have been in Spain at some point but it was to visit the guy

Those arseholes who are always going after Kit for queerbaiting are back at it if people have time to report. Fuck them, seriously. Mary and Ganyu but I have a couple others blocked I think (will check)

That Mary moron should’ve been banned again for the Elton tweet, Twitter’s reporting system is fucking useless now.

R259 cannot believe that EJ tweet didn’t get her. What a disgusting homophobic thing to write. Such a champion of queer values huh

I just spent 10 minutes reporting tweets, I'm sure nothing will come of it.

Anyway, it was a pretty good year for Joe/Kit stuff despite them being apart for half of it.

Between the recent resurgence of the barbie arsehole who hates Joe here and lies about him on Twitter reactivating an old account to continue that and the Kit queerbaiting cunts all popping up at the same moment I’d I almost think it’s just two fucking trolls who try to raise shit who don’t care about either. But none of them seem to have two brain cells to rub together so no.

R243 Lots have been reevaluated or the common sense left the thread. Interestingly, many will say Joe was young, it's okay to be messy but when it's Bash who is messy, that's not okay. Anyway, it was obvious many didn't like Bash and were waiting for the breakup to reveal themselves. The Kit stans in this thread might have a rude awakening if anything ever happens between Joe and Kit.

R261 They're really sweet proof of how absence can make the heart grow fonder. When they're inevitably asked about the Nick/Charlie long distance angst, it wouldn't even sound insincere if they brought that up as a positive.

Slightly related to their S2 press back in June: A lot of the interviews they gave made it clear that they had seen the entire season, but there probably wouldn't have been a cast screening for S2, right? Or there was, but Joe had to watch the episodes on his own time. Or Joe and Kit were given the opportunity to watch them in America. A season of this show is only four hours, after all.

R262 there’s another charming account also posting pics of joe nonstop to say he’s hideous and should kill himself. It’s almost funny because they’re all so stupid. Mary claiming joes TikTok tagging Kit is him outing Kit as straight, the joe freak literally photoshopping pics of him to look worse and then claiming he’s ugly. Like…

Yeah all these trolls have little going on in their lives. Hopefully they stick to twitter where none of the boys can see their bullshit

R265 then the barbies and Lexxie’s masquerading as fans but really just being antis and concocting lies about each of them. I would say they are very obviously extremely close, but even if they were just colleagues with a good relationship with each other they would fucking hate these “fans”. And they do - if you think they don’t see you Joe’s quote in teen vogue should disabuse of that. Their favs see them lying about their close friend. I would be so fucking embarrassed to be them

R266 the queerbaiter cunts have always been on Insta (I always thought it was probably there that was the final straw for Kit) and there has been a definite uptick shit about Joe’s looks so he’d be able to see it now. One of the normal dickheads on Twitter was saying it’s bad for Joe on tt and Insta at the moment but I honestly couldn’t see anything particularly new. Seemed like the usual hstwt just trying to create a drama to have something to do

R264 I got the impression that Kit and Joe watched it in New York from an interview, but I'm completely blanking on what interview made me think that.

R265 I saw that one because one of the Kit trolls replied to it, went through and reported it while I was at it.

R268 yeah I think seeing comments on IG was likely kits last straw. So, so shit. But no, TikTok has actually been really shitty about joe recently. Not sure on IG to be fair, but TikTok has been incredibly unpleasant to say the very least and I have seen an uptick. And joe clearly knows about it, his comment from Charlie Spring’s account on kits insta was quoiting something said about him in the same pic on TikTok. I know he has a good sense of humour but there’s no way that’s not really damaging to him

Cute recap of Joe and Kit in 2023. I didn’t realize they barely saw each other this year.

R261 There’s this too - It’s cute!

R271 Here's the OP. And you know those bitches aren't sharing even half of it, it's hilarious to me that there was a whole big group of the cast hanging out at one point and we wouldn't have known without Bradley posting about it. Plus the months they spent together on set, obviously.

R273 just realized none of kits boyfriends (joe, will, tobie) were in that pic. No wonder he lip bit instead of waving. Was counting down for their arrival. Before anyone starts, I’m kidding, I know he’s friends with the whole cast

R273 not being funny or shipping, I legit would not be shocked if there were pics or hangouts of Joe casually perched on kits lap, kit kissing Tobie goodbye, etc. they’re all physically affectionate queer guys, and if Joe is perched on Tobie’s lap and kissing him and kit nearly kissed him during a live, if they’re ok posting that stuff I’m sure they’re all doing similar shit in private and just don’t post the kit/Joe stuff because people would combust. Our constant joke is that joe is tiny and portable and carried everywhere, I honest to god would be 0 percent surprised if kit and Tobie and Will all had a hold of him at some point, or if kits drunk friendly ass at least pecked them all hello or goodbye

R275 Yeah, if Joe and Kit are this casually affectionate at work I'd say all bets are off when they're hanging out casually, even more when they're drunk. The one picture of Will picking up Joe is from when they were all wasted, too.

I don't really play video games so I only vaguely get this, but I figured an Alice drag might be enjoyed here.

R276 The Nintendo Switch in that pic reminds me that it's shocking that they haven't been made to play Mario Kart for press or something. From cuddles to competitive mode.

Slightly different angle on Kit’s ring for the guy who asked a couple of weeks ago. I spent ages trying to figure it out then and apart from ruling out the major houses and jewellers I came up blank

R276 It's almost sad how desperately you try to make Joe and Kit be a thing. Can't separate acting from real life.

R276 Always fun to revisit the S2 table read tweets because you're bound to find people going bananas over this.

R276 Joe looks so comfortable with his head on Kit’s tits. Not jealous at all.

R279 I think this is probably one of the clearest shots I have of the ring, can't identify jewelry for shit but hopefully it helps.

R280 I get that you must be addled on meds at this point and you probably weren't too bright to begin with, but the "behind the scenes" part means they're not acting.

R282 with his elbow tucked into his groin. Very brotherly

R280 Yeah, most people are desperate and would love for Joe and Kit to be an item, not sure how that’s being used as an insult? It would be hot and one hell of a marketing strategy.

R282 and Kit looks so smug. Sure this was a real hardship for both

Honestly, don’t know how only Bash and Joe hooked up in that cast. If I were Kit, I would have hooked up with Joe, Will, Tobie, PA guy, Patrick, etc. I was a slut at his age lol

R282 I'm always amazed at how at ease Joe and Kit look in that photo. Joe with his arm around Kit's groin, and Kit looking genuinely happy hugging Joe. You can tell they're like brothers...

R281 This unlocked old DL memories for me. I remember the 🤪 Bash stan throwing a fit and calling Joe disrespectful and a slut every time he interacted with Kit. Guess the Bash stans haven't updated their manual in a while. They've always been gross about Joe and flipped a shit about Joe and Kit in particular.

R288 They're pretty good at keeping shit locked down, maybe we'll find out that more of them hooked up down the line. Pretty sure that's what ended up happening with the Glee cast.

R290 In your dreams, fraus. They are all friends and none of them are each other's types.

Btw I was mostly joking before the troll starts

R290 They’ve always been threatened, it’s hilarious. Throwback to the JBU mods throwing a fit about DJL’s comedic Joe/Kit ass post.

R290 it is so funny that at times she seemed to genuinely think they were hooking up behind Bash’s back.

R284 I really want to say it in a nice way but it is pretty naive to believe that”behind the scenes” means they are not acting. The want to convey a N+C feel when doing promo.

R295 You're overthinking it, dumbass. Same set of BTS pictures included one of Joe sitting on Tobie, the show isn't pushing Charlie and Isaac by releasing it. And there's nothing unusual about the picture given that there are a bunch of other examples of Joe and Kit being affectionate and tactile when out of character.

Do these people think Kit and joe maintain a cone of distance as their personal preference but whenever they’re even tangentially close to HS, even behind the scenes, hanging out for joes birthday, or just hanging out in London, they’re doing promo? Jesus

R297 Apparently.

R299 Kit was really having the time of his life caressing joe, pretending to shave him, applying his lotion, wiping his face, pushing him on a swing. He made a day of it

Thanks R279 / R283. I was the one who asked about the chunky ring on his index finger.

R298 Anyone knows what necklace Joe is wearing?

R302 I think it's this one.

R303 Thanks!

R296 the idea in BTS clips is give naive fans a feeling of seeing them IRL so in that way they are clearly succeding.

I hate to pander to the troll but I feel the photoshoots for the show will have an air of ‘Nick and Charlie’ on purpose but they are genuinely that affectionate and it’s like 100% Kit and Joe but they’re just bringing a bit of Heartstopper to it

Good luck to the Melbourne DLers on finding Joe tonight

Except R276 isn't a photoshoot, they're in between shots.

I don’t want to get too tl;dr about boring shit, but (shockingly) crew members are never thinking about pandering to shippers while setting up shots. Chances are Samuel Dore or another still photographer snapped them in between set-ups, nothing more and nothing less.

Chances of getting a deleted scene or something else today?

R306 it’s “pick me girl” poster who isn’t so much a troll as tedious and hilariously convinced Joe somehow tanked Bash’s play by travelling to UK on his four day weekend to end up broken up with (Instead of the barely passable accent). The troll is winning some argument with herself by now saying that not even the other members of the cast can have had hook ups with each other because no one is anyone’s type (to which I say, all hot men are Tobie’s type). Because she is humourless and lack any joy. Lonely, miserable Hag.

I mean look, I don’t think Joe and kit are fuxking presently but I don’t get discounting how genuinely affectionate they are. As someone else said Joe was also getting cuddled by Tobie in other pics. And there aren’t comparable behind the scenes photos of kizzy resting their head on Cori’s tits or Will holding Yaz while she’s on her phone, so the onscreen couple thing isn’t really the reason to me. All the guys seem really affectionate. They pass Joe around like a teddy bear.

R311 also idk why people act as though most people are like bash whose type is so oddly specific. Even if we knew everyone’s type, which we don’t, it’s a really good looking cast. Even if kizzy normally prefers people who are really slim and freckled like their ex Beth, someone like cori is extremely attractive and I don’t think most people into women would go “ah yeah not for me”. The trolls both squeal that kit isn’t joes type because joe likes them dark haired, putting aside that he also likes hairy built guys which kit is, and ignore that literally 0 of the 3 men we know he’s fucked hit all criteria of hairy, dark haired, and ripped. They also insist kit is only into POC which aside from basically accusing him of racial fetishizing (I don’t think that’s their intent, think they’re trying to insist he’d find joe ugly without thinking it through) is based on him dating maia and liking Omar Apollo and Conan Grey posts — which could just as easily be a preference for slim, cute/hot, dark haired people.

New Joe story. He’s so hot

R312 The video title says it all.

He genuinely seems very soft and cuddly. At that con last year, he was getting held left and right. Ben Barnes got the most attention for it outside of the Heartstopper boys, but there's a picture of Sam Claflin holding Joe that goes around sometimes too.

R315 I mean he’s just extremely fuxking cute and Tiny and is softspoken with huge eyes. Cute aggression off the charts.

At this point he’s just taunting the feet gays

R316 Looks like he's gonna be doing a yearly wrap-up, cute.

R313 I was going to write that about Cori. She gives me the impression that if you’re into women you would be into her - she’s hot and seems like a good time. Why wouldn’t Kizzy or Will (if single) or anyone else not be interested? Same goes for any number of combinations. Why wish total sexlessness on the whole group as some kind of gotcha about Kit and Joe. I guess sex is only for when it’s meaningful and between people who are basically husbands at 21 (which could not sound more heteronormative and boring).

The fact that he at some point wore these slutty little shorts and a harness and there are no photos is one of the worst things that’s ever happened to me fyi

R316 Feel sorry for that LPSG guy

R307 Not to act like a frau, but he looks cute/cuddly.

R319 Nevermind about R320, he cured me of seeing him as cute and cuddling

R320 I mean we’re all a little frauish about the guys sometimes. But I do think it’s obvious that Tobie and kit at least also find him very fucking cute and he enjoys being held and cuddled so why not. We’d all also like to fuck him

Cori I’m sorry for the crop but JFC. He is giving us wank material.

That roundup was really cute. Putting aside my fantasizing about giving him a facial following r323, looks like they filmed some baking related promo

The pic in front of the HS billboard is cute.

So Sam did go visit Joe and I guess Connor does see Joe in private. He's just not allowed to publicly leave a comment

R323 Crying. Full photo seems to imply that the recent press day had them baking, maybe? Good, let's see the famed baking skills.

R325 comment, like many posts, reply to joes comments to him, post about Joe. Honestly maybe joe is just extremely chill and ok with it but Connor needs to grow a fucking spine

I need that cunt pillow

It's giving horror movie found footage. What didn't they do on this trip.

R329 cackling at myself because didn’t even occur to me that one world trade were the teen Vogue offices and I honest to god thought they’d gone to the 9/11 memorial museum

R327 Oh not letting Connor off the hook for being a complete POS. Actually makes me dislike him more

Kathryn and Joe pic is cute. Can't wait for Agatha.

I’m so excited for agatha

R392 this made me laugh. Joe’s Kit content is photos of dodgy photos of Kit. The one of the three guys all at the beach taken by Joe is really cute.

Sam got really hot this year. I had no interest in him at all until Joe started posting him when he got back from the U.S. Between him, Kit and Joe (every three unshaven days), I guess I like a bit scruff these days

R330 Oop, that makes more sense. Shout-out to Vogue, they provided us with much bounty this year.

R329 The way Kit is so fucking expressive even in a shitty, tiny print-out of a badge is so funny.

R335 they’ve both got little rubber faces istg. Very dynamic.

Posting for the pic not the caption, but wtf was he doing that both his nostrils and his ear (?) were bleeding

Hot as ever

R336 I think that was when he was in LA, no?

R336 I'm assuming his ears were not bleeding and the caption is not far off. Appreciate Joe never curating his IG feed/stories. i know some celebs and non-celebs would rather die than post a pic without a dozen filters taken at the best angle

R337 I was going to say his mom looks young, but she probably is

R337 that’s got real Victorian Winery vibes

For the curious, number of appearances per person:

Kit - 3

Tobie - 3

Kathryn - 3

Sam - 3

Cori - 2

Will, Aubrey, Patti, Sasheer, misc. Agatha people - 1

Connor - 1 (plus the picture he took)

(Too much Connor, IMO.)

Someone at Marvel currently studying each set picture with a microscope to see if he’s leaked something

R342 Bradley - 1

How dare you forget him

And Cori - 2

Small complaint, which he would have posted a new birthday month pic of that night but that's just me being needy

Not leaving out King Bradley

R343 I included Cori! But got tired by the time I hit the photobooth pictures, sorry Bradley (and Kizzy, Nima, Fisayo, and I guess Rhea).

R343 the other birthday pics he and Kit and tobie were presumably nude for so impossible

Oh I skipped over Cori. My mistake.

Not to be that guy, but Kit I hope Joe inspired you to post something now

R329 You could tell me that that’s Wiccan and Hulkling and I’d believe you. Kit looks huge.

R343 He repeated Rollacoaster shoots on his grid, so either he reposts because he doesn't always remember what he's posted or he's just that fond of certain photos. The Kit & Tobie one is truly a platinum classic.

Most surprised by no photo with Elton but I could see wanting to keep that lunch private beyond the official group shot.

R347 nope, I think in this case it’s fine. We all want Kit to move

R347 I find it annoying when twitter people do it because they so clearly dgaf about joe and only like Kit. Here, where people may have a fav but are overall very fond of both, I think it’s fine

Fairly iconic to post a pic bash took because he doesn’t gaf and knows he looks hot in it

R352 Joe looks good, though it's not giving loving boyfriend pic. Kit wins

And he already did that before. Those pics out to dinner with the Agatha girls Bash was there and he just excluded him.

Do love that we’re having a conversation above about how every man who sees joe wants to hold him and he then drops one of Sam cuddling him. He’s the most powerful twink alive

R353 different dinner I think. Different outfits.

R353 Yeah, Joe looks hot but weirdly tense for a picture being taken by your boyfriend.

I really like this picture. I hope things align and they’re all able to go see Joe in Sweeney Todd.

R357 assuming he’s there through April or later, can’t imagine they won’t

Very naughty, but cat's out of the bag so Netflix might as well post the video ASAP.

It’s funny that there is a total of one amusement park in Melbourne and Joe appears to have found it. It’s a really old timey one - Luna Park. He really just likes what he likes

Unless the date is wrong on R359, looks like they shot content over the span of two days. Brady was at the Netflix offices/Tobie followed a groomer on Saturday the 9th. Joe's Story is from Sunday the 10th, which was also the same day as the Elton lunch so Joe and Kit might have been running around.

R361 I'm assuming the date is wrong since he captioned the Kit and Tobie pic as September 25th when we know it was from his actual birthday on the 24th. If I'm remembering right, the 25th was the S3 table read.

Either way, he really favoured soft light blue that weekend of press and Elton brunch.

R360 so stupidly cute. It’s funny because he seemed petrified of heights in Brazil with Kit. Was literally shaking on that glass balcony thing

I might be really late on this, but I didn’t know that Joe has a BeReal before today. We’re missing out on so much.

r364 there’s tons of pictures posted before that suggest they all have BeReal

Joe sighting and no information at all

Joe is very cute but I can’t help but wonder what the hell happened with Bash. I know it’s old news and we’ll never know but it’s as if they were never in each other’s lives. It’s insane bc I never thought they’d have that bad of a breakup.

'Could just be a protective sister thing, she doesn’t like Joe being so blatant with a new hookup. Could be Joe is lashing out and sending bitchy texts behind the scenes. She’s the only one who has unfollowed his finsta numbers wise (and hasn’t removed him as a follower) so hard to tell as yet. But definitely seems way more permanent and less immediately amicable than I anticipated'

'Fwiw I also think chances are fairly high that part of the issue is still those stories with Nick - especially when you consider if he’s posting that on his public he might be posting way flirtier ones on his private. Maybe I’m deluding myself and this will be a bitchy messy breakup, joes at fault, and everyone is taking sides, but this on first glance reads more like protective sister and mutual friends staying neutral.'

Oh, sensible, intelligent and wise Dler, you are truly missed.

From Daniel Budden even if I have no fucking clue who this guy is

Is this really Kit. I mean, it looks like him but then it doesn't

R369 Let’s manifest a sexy partner for Kit in 2024. Those arms and that sweet face deserve permanent worshiping.

R370 It’s him but it’s old and she added a filter on.

R367 I want to chat shit about it too because looking at those photos it absolutely came out of nowhere but the troll is so irritating

R369 thanks. I’d seen it on Twitter but it was fake lesbian so I wasn’t sure if it was new and we know what she’s like with sources

R372 from LA 18 months ago, yeah?

R367 Reddit sub just had a good comment about it that sums it up, even if it's nothing we haven't said before. Though comment kinda ate so props to them. Plus Joe was 17 when they got together, he's gonna change and figure out he can no longer look at the lack of ass that is Bash, live with his parents in his childhood bedroom and spend his time going on dates with Bash's family.

[quote] Take this with a pinch of salt as I don’t know these people, but bash comes across as a particular kind of guy to me. They are really likeable and charming on the surface, and start new relationships with a load of affection and love bombing. Then the relationship becomes more controlling and more about ownership, and they start slipping in criticism and withholding affection. Then if the relationship ends, they seem really hurt but it’s more about a hurt ego than anything, and they can get nasty. Like I said, I don’t know him, but from what we’ve seen that’s the impression I get. Things like the way we saw him treat Joe when they were together sometimes, with Joe looking hurt, and then the slut story Joe deleted as if someone had called him a slut, and then everything else after they split up.

R371 I hope for a sexy roster because I think you should fuck around young but I feel ya (tbh I hope he already has one)

r375 based on how Bash acted afterwards, i could totally see him calling Joe a slut in texts

we all can agree though that the breakup for good for Joe, he seems much happier, finally realized the stuff he wanted to do and even discovered who his true friends were. glad that Bash is out of the picture

R375 I totally agree with everything that person on Reddit said. I think the same way. They couldn't have nailed it any better

R378 It was. Only thing I'm nosey about is if he actually wants to date seriously again anytime soon. He's very busy and will be traveling for back and forth between countries so I'm not expecting much more than hook ups for awhile. I couldn't handle a LTR in my very early 20's and I was about 1/3rd as busy with uni and work as he is

Happy new year to Australian people and Joe

What date is it supposed to be in the picture where Connor is on the FaceTime call? Or is it wrong?

R381 It's similar to the timestamps on his Sicily pics, so probably from that trip?

R381 I guess July/August sometime just because of when it was posted.

And that pic from May is kinda interesting since they met up post-breakup when Connor got back from London. Connor was in NY that weekend I think. Obviously that's the OF Nick weekend Joe was there too. Not sure if that's ATL or NY though.

January really sticks out.

R384 yeah yikes

R384 Is Jan the only red one too?

Kit commented three hearts on Daniel Buddens post, who the fuck is that guy?

Wonder if Kit will do a round up before the end of the year in the UK too

R387 isn’t he one of his agents at wme/itg?

R386 Feet pic and hot hostage photo were red

R387 google says

[quote] Daniel Budden, based in London, GB, is currently a Global Head of Celebrity at 111SKIN, bringing experience from previous roles at Cartier, Karla Otto, ITB Worldwide and The Communications Store.

R390 And the Netflix promo, wrote too soon, so yeah doesn't mean anything

One of the Joe pics was 12 May …… wasn’t he in Chichester then ?

R392 Nope. The week before

R393 thank you , I was confused

I kind of forgot it was that early in May too until I looked. Randomly, Joe didn't follow OF Nick until the 22nd of May, the Nick story wasn't until the 28th of May. Bash followed Charlie the 3rd of June and has been dating him since.

Just fyi to the the elder frau in the audience who likes to act like Joe was super disrespectful and out of line. That week really mattered between loving husbands and disrespectful hookup apparently

R395 come on you know they were not dating from 3rd of June. I suppose that is “fun gossip” but obviously false. Bash was still in Chichester and Bash in New York and they hadn’t met. They didn’t actually meet until the wild Cannes parties in July.

R387 He used to work at ITG in the Commercial department, pretty sure I remember him filling in for Rosie the one time she couldn't travel with Kit, I think it was around a holiday and am assuming it was Milan because I'm too busy to double-check.

Been away for a couple weeks. I have seen the various instagram photos. But did I miss any other actual tea?

R398 No, been boring as hell. Joe went to Australia and turned off his IG tags. Kit has been missing. Tobie moved.

Went to see if Connor reposted any of joes pics and of course not. But it reminds me that what pisses me off even more than him being all over bash in public and hiding joe is the fact that he’s now all over charlie. I get that it’s joes life and his business but I can’t help but feel sad for him that someone he clearly loves and considers a good friend not only ignores him publicly to kiss his ex’s ass, but is also far more glowing and all over his ex’s new twink of just a few months. Can’t post a friend of 2.5 years who took him to a concert, or reply to his comments, or even comment congrats on his huge castings but can be all “you guys I can’t 😭🥺” on Charlie’s posts with bash. Now what Connor actually can’t do is get cast in a job to save his life so ironically that comment would better suit a comment on joes posts

Joe please i am begging you, ditch Connor you are superior than him in every way

I expect Connor will pop up at Sweeney Todd after his mom left a comment about seeing Joe, but it's going to be extremely lame if he goes and doesn't post about it. I'm not saying that everything happens online, but in Connor's case nothing is happening online when it comes to Joe.

R396 It's insane how out of touch with reality they've become. In the early days, they were all in agreement that Bash's sister had every right to unfollow Joe, that she was being a protective older sister and there was nothing wrong with that. Nowadays, they are calling her a psycho for doing that. They also used to say both guys were young and hurting but now they're calling Bash a narcissist.

R375 to your last point, I actually have thought a lot recently about the fact that while bash is rich as fuck, and I know the dumb bash jokes are a constant, he seems really unintellectually curious and I can see that among other things annoying the fuck out of Joe. It seems like Joe was constantly doing stuff in Atlanta, visited NYC a bunch while there, came back and was always out and doing things in London, travelled to Italy and now Australia, and he’s well read and politically informed. Meanwhile bash is rich as fuck and for the past few years has had a lot of downtime but aside from the fateful monk meditation trip in March doesn’t use the money to travel, or buy and read a lot (including audiobooks, I know he’s dyslexic before the troll starts). Being a homebody is one thing but being boring is another

R404 The Bash stans are already making up an excuse for his lack of traveling, they're trying to claim that he's "flight anxious."

R404 It's like you've been stuck by lighting and have forgotten everything about that relationship. Anything to make Bash look like a monster, I assume. They have always had similar interests, that's why they stayed together that long. They are even still following the same artists on Instagram.

Alice is uploading the q&a to tappas and what is this? so s4 announcement?

R405 if I was flight anxious I would not start dating a man who lived a 10 hour flight from me. That or id pop an ambien. You’d think they’d eventually realize if they need to make an excuse every 2 days to justify their fav maybe he just sucks but they’re as dumb as he is

R407 she’s so thick

Alice recently posted about Charlie's bedroom being installed at an Indigo bookstore in January. Connor is the only Heartstopper-adjacent person that would be in Toronto, as far as I know, but doubt he would show up without anybody else.

Throwback to Charlie's bedroom in Waterstones. Kit "My ass is too big" Connor finding a way to make it work on that tiny bed.

R407 Watch it be her answering a question about S4 with an "I don't know."

R409 I wouldn't put it past him to show up and post about it to suck up to Alice.

R408 I mean if Charlie doesn’t mind it’s not up to us to really have an opinion. Just hope Bash knows how lucky he is.

Yeah, Q&A is up, basically her just saying that she hopes there's a S4.

R412 lol mate not being rude but the whole point of DL is having an opinion. Still a shite bf!

Then, is Joe a shite friend? I don't remember him ever traveling to Kit's home or seeing Kit when he had downtown this year. It's always Kit who travels or makes an effort for Joe.

R404 Forgive me, but I thought Joe just enjoyed staying home since they never fucking went anywhere but shop around London. Turns out that's not true since he travels all the time now.

R412 giving shades of "well Joe doesn't mind". I don't care if Charlie's happy, but I'll still talk shit about his boyfriend

Damn, Alice says she’ll be working on Vol.6 until late 2025. Idk when they’ll fit in season 4

R416 You do you but I’m not sure what Joe has to do with my comment, I was talking about Charlie.

R417 wtf could possibly take that long to write. And not a great omen for S4, not that it won't happen but the cast is going to be busy with other things and it'll be hard to find a time when everyone can do it. At least Nick and Charlie will be fucking by then so we won't have to laugh at them not being ready yet.

Netflix doesn't have a priority over their schedule anymore.

R418 The excuse anytime Bash acted like a cunt was, well Joe doesn't seem to mind. Which you just said, Well, Charlie doesn't seem to mind. Not sure why you are confused.

R418 not who you’re replying to but I think the point is more this isn’t an isolated pattern of behaviour. If Charlie alone travelled more for bash, I’d get your point that the w don’t know why. Maybe he just likes London a lot more than LA or something. But when bash has never been to visit connor, came to see joe all of 3 times in 6 months, and now isn’t travelling for his new guy, it does come off really selfish and we can have an opinion on that. Or frankly just an opinion regardless, that’s the point of DL.

R417 Alice pretty much had to do a chunk of Volume 5 and Season 3 scripts at the same time, so it might happen again with Volume 6 and Season 4 scripts. I don't deny that that's hard to juggle, as two different mediums. But a lot of authors don't have as much involvement in their work being adapted, especially if the adaptation is ahead of the work being published and the adaptation has to make up their own shit that can be widely out of character or without focus. That's the basis of every "Oh no, the anime is ahead of the manga!" joke.

If Heartstopper had more episodes, most people wouldn't say no to filler, though, if it was good. "We'd find each other in every universe" is such a concept for the typical AU episode where characters meet and fall in love in a myriad of different ways.

R417 I don't think she's ever been able to stick to her plans, anyway. When the show got renewed she ended up having to prioritize it and as a result Vol 4's release date got pushed back multiple times. I imagine the same thing will end up happening again if the show is renewed. She writes the story and dialogue out first, so she'd have that plus the N+C novella to write the scripts even before she gets around to drawing the pages out.

R418 Ok but if Charlie says he’s happy with their situation, then that’s their business? There were a lot of things we could point out and say maybe Bash wasn’t the greatest boyfriend to Joe but we don’t know anything about his relationship with Charlie. Idk what is hard to get

Meant for R419

R420 Yeah, shouldn’t have said we shouldn’t have an opinion. Obviously, you can think wtv. I can disagree and we move on.

R423 Literally nothing is our business. We are just nosey fucks. Not going to derail the thread by arguing about Bash and his newest twink though. The point being, he was a shit boyfriend then and nothing I see is making me think he's anything but a shit boyfriend now

It doesn't matter if Charlie says he's happy, it doesn't matter if Connor says Bash makes his life brighter, it doesn't matter if all of Bash's friends say over and over again how much they love and appreciate him. In these losers' eyes, Bash is a shit friend and boyfriend because they need to make him out to be a shit person. Anyway.

R369 Do we think this photo was during the summer? And where are they? Anyone recognize the bar?

R428 It's from June 18th in Milan, he's wearing the outfit he wore to the JW Anderson show.

R423

[quote]Ok but if Charlie says he’s happy with their situation, then that’s their business?

Reminder of where you're posting:

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Also, 90% of the people on here assumed that Joe was happy right up to the break-up. Turns out he was a muted version of himself throughout the entire relationship.

R430 Are you saying Joe wasn’t happy during those two years at all now? I get your point but I don’t agree

Nick's search history by Alice sure is something

R432

If we can't get Joe's eyebrow slit in the show, Charlie getting his ears pierced when he's 20 = ending of S4 should be a flashforward that lets Joe wear earrings.

R431 I think the changes in Joe speak for themselves.

R432 Made me laugh.

R435 I think he’s happier now and more like himself but that took some self reflection. Doesn’t mean he can’t have fond memories of his relationship even if it wasn’t perfect looking back.

I guess I’m the only one who thinks Bash only revealed his petty side after the breakup. I don’t rev-evaluate everything in their relationship now and think Bash mistreated Joe for two years. I still think they were happy for the most part. It’s sad that it crashed and burned but ultimately looks like it was for the better.

I think it can be somewhere in the middle. Neither that bash was always a perfect boyfriend but then a bad ex, or that it was two years of misery. My guess is putting long term compatibility elements aside, bash was a good boyfriend when things were easy, so when Joe travelled to him all the time, HS hadn’t come out and Joe wasn’t famous, when Joe lived in London and just did stuff with bash and his family. When it came to harder times, like Joe dealing with a lot of online hate, moving abroad alone to film agatha, and a time difference, bash was a shitty boyfriend. And when someone is only a good boyfriend when things are easy and you make more effort, it can be revelatory and I wouldn’t be shocked if it was that way for Joe.

Anyway, I feel like stans are going to see things one way or the other. If it was Kit in Joe’s you’d likely be more sensitive to the idea that the relationship had shitty elements throughout, and maybe some Joe fans would play devils advocate more.

Heartstopper got two clips on Netflix’s year end wrap up video.

R439 kind of a hilarious video. For the curious, it’s all clips of couples kissing. Charlie and Nick in school after Nick tells Charlie he came out to his mum is one, Elle and Tao in the Louvre is the other

Yaz posted more YSL beauty stuff so she’s still an ambassador for them. So cool for her

R438 I remember speculation that while it was new and challenging, Joe might have enjoyed the independence in Atlanta and wanted to take a shot at it London, like getting his own place, and that this may have triggered a fight or break-up. People naturally grow and evolve, and not all relationships survive that change.

I'm glad 2023 seems to have been a great year for him despite everything. He's doing great at having new independence while still having plenty of people he loves. Independence is sometimes misconstrued as cutting out all support to get stronger, and he doesn't strike me as that type at all.

A number of us that picked up on some of the shitty elements while the relationship was still going were Kit stans. I think it helped that we basically never had any allegiance to Bash, so we could see him for what he was a little easier.

I don’t think having a different opinion is playing the devils advocate but ymmv. I already said that relationship wasn’t perfect. I don’t think it was two years of pure bliss either.

R443 yeah I think that’s true. I think given how was already going through a lot and being treated awfully by the fanbase and Twitter, a lot of gay Joe fans really wanted to see the best in him and bash and root for a young gay couple. A lot of female fans were clearly more about bash and just project onto him and whoever he dates which is obvious now

R444 I didn’t mean devils advocate pejoratively. I just mean when you don’t stan the person you’re talking about you’re less invested in it — not necessarily more objective or correct, to be clear, but there’s a different level of interest. It’s why I also said, being fair, that Joe fans might have similar levels of idk disinvestment in Kit’s future breakups and say they seemed good whereas you’d likely feel more strongly and not insist it was an overall good relationship

Alice even copying joes new fav jumper is hilarious

Joe is the eternal victim. It doesn't matter what the situation is or if he's in the wrong. It's why every guy that hooks up or dates Joe will always be the villain, in the end. I'm not sure why Kit stans would wish for their fave to be associated with Joe romantically. If they were a couple, Joe stans would turn on Kit eventually. They started a little when Kit didn't comment on Joe's Broadway post. Insanity.

Fraulein hush. Whatever meds you’re on aren’t working

R449 You need a new prescription dear and quickly. The insane takes on the 7 months old breakup are getting old. Joe will be 25 and you will still be here rambling about their break up. Pathetic.

R435 I genuinely thought this must be doctored. Why can she never bring this energy to the show

God forbid a teen boy see teen porn Fraulein

R452 do they think nicks search doesn't consist of dark haired twink getting fucked by hung top or something

R452 “stumbled upon”. There was no stumbling, he’s 17. He already had those privately bookmarked

R451 To be fair, it'll be implied if they kept this part in S3. They might be able to sneak in a glimpse at his search history before Charlie sees the Leeds University stuff.

Charlie struggling at Spanish reminded me of this gem. Joe can rest easy knowing that Charlie isn't meant to be Nick levels of fluent in a second language.

R454 the obsession with making these teenage male characters sexless is so odd. I mean didn’t even Alice made them have anal sex this time around?

R456 That bit of the Q&A made me laugh because Charlie's abuelo's Spanish is wrong, too.

R457 The fraus are fighting a losing battle. Even in the novella Alice was clear about them having sex a lot.

And of course crunchy projects her homophobia and thinks he was so horrified he flung his laptop. As said above, I’m sure the sight of a dark haired twink on his knees with his ass on display didnt shock or upset him

R459 Oh noooo porn lookalikes of the Twink he’s head over ass in love with the horror oh noooo

R459 yeah, gay sex is so disgusting seeing it must be an absolute horror show. Never beating those homophobic allegations

I’m really happy for joe that Agatha is coming out at such a good time. Echo is the only other marvel TV a show out next year, and all five esp are dropping on January 10. Then marvel officially only has one film announced to come out next year, Deadpool 3, in July. The other releases are I believe all Sony marvel ones, not marvel itself under Disney, so not the same cross promo and pressure on marvel fans to see them. I always thought Agatha would do well regardless given the Wandavision link and how unique it is within marvel, but the fact that fans will have a lot of recovery time from project burnout before seeing it helps a lot

R462 I wonder if the fans will be performative about their activism and try to boycott the show because it’s on Disney. We already know how they are

R463 honestly a lot of them have been very close mouthed since PJO came out because I think they’re all watching that. By next September he’ll be fine

Speaking of being fine, the Bradley Cooper backlash seemed to fizzle. Probably helps that the film was ordinary but still. I didn’t realise Sarah Silverman was in the movie. Putting one of the most outspoken Jewish celebrity’s on authentic casting in his movie was smart.

R465 I legit was horrified by his prosthetic nose still though. That was unreal

R466 He looks more like Bernstein without it. It was totally unnecessary and pretty offensive considering Bernstein’s own appearance.

Kit is clearly talking to someone behind Joe, the homophobic pride flag video still has this beat!

R468 The way this would've been something exciting a year ago and is basically not notable at all now. We really had a come-up this year in terms of Joe/Kit stuff.

R469 at the rate they’re going, their next reunion we’ll see Joe straddling his lap to hug him. God bless.

R469 Right? June/july were golden. We’re in for another 6 months of drought.

R470 Is this the first square for the “these two should be fucking” 2024 Bingo Card?

R471 we’ll get a war wife caption from Joe for kits birthday and a war wife quote from kit in some interview once they reunite

R472 someone needs to make that bingo card

We might also get something sappy if Kit is able to see Joe in Sweeney Todd, but I don’t know how long Kit plans to be quiet on Instagram for.

R475 I’d guess kit would post from ST, primarily because I think he’ll go with Tobie and Tobie would post too. Either way I’m sure schedule permitting he’ll go. Which is really lovely. I hope a lot of the cast ends up rolling though

R476 Fans have made a big deal out of some weirdos who said they would only go to maybe catch Kit there. I guess there’s a chance he doesn’t post about it because of that.

R477 Yeah, I imagine it'd be like any hangout where they usually only post about it afterwards so they don't advertise their appearance. I think they'd be spotted no matter what at Sweeney, but holding off posts until after leaving the theatre would still be smart.

A video of Bash and the replacement twink dancing terribly just popped up on my FYP and I think they're in the US. A New Year's miracle, guess Bash got over his flight anxiety or whatever his fans think he has.

R477 If a couple of morons ruined it for us, I swear to God...

R474 Potential squares: aforementioned reunion straddle, corny ST post, Joe corny birthday post for Kit, and war wife quote from Kit in an interview, random Joe repost of a picture of Kit looking hot (like the Dunhill one).

R477 I get you but think a bit differently. Firstly I again think the fans saying they’re going opening night to see kit are twats. Ofc some people are dramatic but yeah, the mairas who call everyone racist and sexist and whatever else should be called out for only valuing the gay lead when they can see their crush. Secondly. I think that’s a reason kit and Tobie or any of the cast would go a really random date, maybe even like a Thursday evening or something, and then post about it the next day. If it’s after they’ve been, no one can really use that to try to find them.

R470 need kit to start horny reposting joe or commenting on random article IGs about joe. Meet that energy king!

R479 indescribable so here it is for everyone. Joe you made such a good life choice…

R482 Charlie honestly looks low key embarrassed at on point

R482 They're both better off. Joe is happier and can travel more now, and Bash found himself an influencer type he can do all of these dumbass dances with.

R494 Yeah, crazy to think there was a moment in time when we couldn’t imagine seeing Joe without Bash and vice versa. 2024 was a crazy year

Damn typos *2023. 2024 will be much better with Agatha and S3!

Bash is so much more open and happy with Charlie. He can be his goofy self with his boyfriend. He doesn't have tp hid and worry about his boyfriend's crazy stans sending him hate. They made the right choice by breaking up.

R485 Kind wild how now I can't imagine Joe with Bash

R484 This is true. I kinda feel Bash also knows he's never taking off since most actual celebs don't make their relationships their personalities, especially not ones who are still trying to break into the industry. This is giving tiktok couple behavior, which is fine if that's what you want to do with your life, but it's not giving I want to be a serious actor.

R482 The guy on here that said that Bash is going to date young twinks even as he gets older is definitely onto something. He’s going to have to keep switching to a new one as soon as the current ones mature and get sick of him.

Charlie is also a huge upgrade. Good for Bash.

I just know Tobie posted that in some groupchat with Joe, Will, and Kit

Kit gives us NOTHING. I waited until after midnight before saying it. Maybe... he'll post something tomorrow.

R489 Charlie and Bash are closer in age than Bash was with Joe. You losers will stop at nothing to hate on Bash. What an obsession. His happiness must irk you terribly.

R492 He hates us.

R491 Tobie thanking not only God but Jesus that he unfollowed him

R488 The videos he's been making hawking The Ordinary products are also basically Influencer 101 gigs. It's not a proper campaign and he's about 5 seconds away from including a link to the TikTok Shop with his videos.

R494 We should just go with the delusional Brazilian Joe/Kit fan route and say since there is no proof Kit's not with Joe, he must be with Joe

Thank you for the laugh. Bash and Charlie dancing happily to some stupid music is jeopardizing the seriousness of their career. That's some next-level delusion.

R497 A couple of his friends have been traveling (George Jaques is in Amsterdam, one of his LA friends is in Spain), but I haven't seen a single sign of him anywhere. Was also kind of surprised that Tobie's bestie hasn't posted him today.

R498 Right? That would require him to have a career worth jeopardizing in the first place.

How on earth have you guys got the idea that he has flight anxiety?? That is pretty crazy considering the many trips to US and random trip to Brazil.

Anyway, Bash got his haters SEETHING with bitterness. Seven months after the breakup with their fave. He's still living in your minds rent-free. Bash is really that bitch.

R501 It's not us, it's his stans (see R405).

R501 They are grasping at straws at this point. Funny.

R500 What's Joe's number on the IMDB star meter chart again?

R500 For the record I don't think they have one either. I said they were trying to break in the industry, which isn't going well.

Must be tough to stan someone who peaked before they could drive.

Joe stans have to lie and put people on ignore because otherwise, they have nothing on Bash. So funny. That's how fragile they are.

R499 She didn’t post Tobie? Why is that weird?

Genuinely cracks me up that the stan keeps clinging onto the STARmeter when the people that I work with don’t even know who Bash is and he’s never made it into the top 100.

Starmeter is just how much someone is being searched. Honestly given bash is being more blatant about Charlie than he ever was about Joe I would guess a good bit of his starmeter soaring to the heady heights of the 3000s is people checking if he’s gay.

R508 Didn't say it was weird necessarily, just thought he would've made the group shot.

R510 Of all places you think tween girls on TikTok are looking him up on IMDB? Sure frau, whatever helps you cope.

I’m glad we’ll be getting promotional content and more photoshoots out of this year since they’re no strike to add to their general hanging out and loving on each other.

- Someone make that bingo card for the shits and giggles.

R511 Kit and Tobie and Will need to post their nye selfie if they are together! We’re dying

Anyway, here's a linear graph demonstrating interest in Joe versus Bash over the last year. The two times Bash was above Joe? When he was getting dragged in the media for his involvement in the Harry Potter game. Superstar!

R515 Hilarious to show how much people do not care about Joe. I still don't see Joe's name on that chart. Not everyone has star power, it's okay.

Cracking up at the elderfrau not knowing how trend graphs work, you might want to use an abacus instead.

R515 Search terms are funny

Kit vs Joe vs Bash (top vs rising searches)

Cracking up at the losers in this thread desperately making a graph to prove something because their fave isn't on that list. Anyway.

All of the recent queries for Bash being related to Joe or Heartstopper, that sounds about right. Good luck to him.

All the popular queries for Joe being related to Kit. Good luck to him.

R518 The way you thought you ate with all of those different Joe searches related to his jobs, which he hasn't been fired from, while Bash's are related to his influencer boyfriend, the backlash he got for lining the pockets of a transphobe, and the job he was sacked from.

R522 I get why Amazon shelved his movie now. They announced a date, released stills, and no one was checking for it. Oof.

R522 Um, I'm laughing at what you said. I'm a Joe fan.

R522 Now we see you guys' true colors. Pathetic. Kit stans better buckle up because the real opinions these losers have on him will come out one day. R523 Yet Joe is not on that list. With all this buzz on Agatha. Poor Joe.

R525 "My true colors," when I'm a Kit stan, I'm cackling.

'I'm a Kit stan' sure honey.

R518 I love that Kit Connor girlfriend 2023 and Kit Connor boyfriend 2023 both made it.

R527 Are we still acting like 98% of Kit stans don't dislike Bash? And vastly prefer Joe?

R528 A bi indie King

Not someone who’s first language is clearly not English pretending to be Joe on Facebook, posting romantic quotes with pictures of Sebastian…

The ai too never thought I’d be scared of a picture of Joe

R531 I take that back they’re doing romantic and cheesy quotes with pics of Joe with everyone he’s ever had a pic with, including women. Still embarrassing.

R529 If they do, they should reelevate their lives because that's sad. Imagine caring about this when your fave isn't involved.

R534 Beyond the fact that I do actually like Joe, you are on a site filled with bitchy gays that regularly weigh in on everything ever in a cunty way. Know your place, frau.

It’s wild that people including Fraulein don’t realize most Joe or kit fans still really like the other one. You can have a particular soft spot or affinity for one and still think the other is amazing and want the best for them. Some notable exceptions here on DL but overall we’re way better about it than Twitter or Reddit or IG

R535 Every gay man on this site hates this thread, demented frau. Know your place.

R536 And we all hate Bash. Her attempts at kissing up to Kit fans is amusing though.

One of the top threads on Bash's TikTok.

R538 That's what you want to believe but I get enough WWs to know it's not true. Anyway, I'm glad to know you are aware of your mental illness. It's the first step.

R539 Hilarious to admit you have the maturity level of a 13-year-old fan girl. Whatever floats your boat.

Man she's really on a rampage this evening.

R539 Very true

Man, you fraus are really frustrated about Bash's happy life with Charlie. Faster than his stans to post the TikTok. How are you not embarrassed? Anyway, I have a party to attend. Happy New Year! Can't wait to see you next year weeping with rage at Bash for living his life.

Not a nursing home rager.

R526 you and Industry DLer never beating those allegations no matter how many times you post about Kit, Kit's arse, Kit's career, Kit gossip. Any mention of Joe makes you a Joe stan. Did the lame check of history to see if you were Industry DLer and you almost only post about Joe when you're shitting on Bash, or in relation to Kit. No shade, you're a Kit guy so completely normal way to use the thread, just fucking hilarious you then get accused of being a unreasonable Joe stan. Full respect that you always saw through Bash - wish I could say the same

R545 It happens like clockwork, I'm accused of being a Joe stan at least once a week. Which...I guess not being an asshole about Joe makes me a Joe stan? I really do like the guy, to the point where I'm genuinely invested in his well-being (go back far enough and you'll find me being concerned about Bash and Lego and stressing that he can do better), but my dick (with some input from my brain) has made its allegiance known and I can't fight that.

Definitely saw your concerns about Lego (though I will say much more calmly stated than myself or others more invested in Joe). I’m getting more even by the day but I get slammed for being Joe sensitive all the time. It’s a gossip board - if one of them provides gossip it’s all in. Joe moves more, Kit gives more semi nudity (I’m happy to have become more avid fan of his twunkyness because one fully shirtless pic of Joe in two fucking years is the drought of a lifetime). The particularly nasty cunts who wish badly for the other just can’t comprehend that there is a place where gay men just want to chat shit about both. It’s not going to last forever and they’ll move to threads about their own projects in a couple of years - why not enjoy them as a duo now

Happy New Year cunts!

HAPPY FUCKING NEW YEAR FUCKERS!!

R547 Part of why I was so calm about Lego is because I was pretty convinced it wasn't serious and that he'd be out of the picture sooner rather than later (but not going to lie, sometimes comments on here had me doubting myself). Regarding potential thread split, I'll probably leave when that happens because I won't want to deal with the biphobia Kit threads'll attract.

Anyway, HNY! Dropping two tweets to set the tone for the year, hopefully.

Even though you cunts accused me of being Rosie one time this year, I forgive you and there’s no one I’d rather spend my time taking a shit with than you

HNY! Hoping we get good thirsting content this year and good shit to bitch about

Happy New Year, fuckers. I’m already well into the 1st and have posted a dozen times - so I guess my news years resolution is to continue to dick about on DL.

Happy New Year

Looks like Kit spent NYE in London.

Sorry, late as usual but (reluctantly) watching that TikTok of Bash and Charlie and some of the discussion here, I wouldn't be surprised at all if they went full on influencer couple this year and honestly I wish them well. Considering Bash's remaining stans have depressive episodes whenever he disappears for a few days (they obviously know as well as we do that he's not caught up on long days filming) it would honestly be a smart move for all involved.

Joe Locke in Broadway, part of Marvel and onto season 3 of his breakthrough tv show with Netflix this year - Yes, babe!

Through my laughter I’m thinking Joe and Kit should do this lol

R557 Hardly has any influence

The screenshot on the left always gets to me.

2024 and still yapping about Bash and his hot boyfriend. Y'all are obsessed!

R556 No other info? Was he alone?

R561 It's a totally natural behavior between friends who have missed each other, your friend picks you up and looks at you as if he wants to eat you

Jesus the Wanda fans are cunts. It’s not too bad (just a few) but imagine Joe giving you fucking Agatha content and going on the Scarlet Witch Updates post to be arseholes about him. He’s the youngest person on set and the only one who will provide any kind of bts when he’s allowed (maybe Aubrey but they have to hate her now) and your response is to shit on him. People who stan characters not actors are so fucking weird (says me, a kid obsessed with Spider-Man from the time I could walk).

Even Kit's sister posted, Is that their family home?

It’s not r566

His sister has her own place so I would guess that's where she was.

This account keeps getting hit tweets with Kit. I wish they were an update account so they could replace KCI entirely.

R568 the power of paying for Blue Twitter, but yeah, Joe's fans need a good reliable Kit account, just like DJL, because, I don't know about you, but on the first day I put Joe's picture on my profile, KitConnorInfo blocked me

R569 Whoever runs that account is so fucking weird.

R570 I honestly thought it was the fake lesbian for awhile because of how shitty the captions are, but I guess it could be any 20 yr old girl. They are also semi useless as an update account. They are so lazy reposting articles that they’ve already been on tonnes of accounts before they bother. They’re great for posts of various shirtless pictures on the beach (and that’s excellent content) but as an actual update account they’re bad

R569 they’ve liked a lot of sketchy tweets about Joe too. Fucking weird

R571 I'm about 70% sure that whoever runs the KCI account is from LATAM, they have ESL ticks in some of their tweets. The fake lesbian's secondary account is this one.

R572 Which tweets have they liked? I've seen this mentioned before but I'm nosy and want to know what specifically they've been liking.

R572 I ranted about this above but as a fan of both I honestly don’t understand what everyone’s fucking problem is. It’s not a zero sum game, and Kit almost certainly fucking hates the way some of these “fans” behave about. He skated pretty close to saying so early on when he talked about how fucked he thought it was that you could call yourself a fan of the show then shit talk Joe’s looks. Joe obviously adores Kit and would fucking hate his fans who do anything other than the same. As I’ve said - I would be so fucking embarassed be them, particularly as we know that they actually see the shit even though they’re not on Twitter

R573 haven’t really looked in ages but from my memory definitely a bunch around the time of the Emmy nominations about how Kit was a lot better than Joe and deserved the Emmy, one about how the most unrealistic thing about the show was that someone who looked like kit would be with Joe, and some shady shit about how lot was too good for marvel. Obviously I get fans are fans of one person primarily and I of course expect privately DJL thinks Joe should’ve won the Emmy and rooted for him, and Vice versa for the kit account. But liking rude shit about how undeserving the other is isn’t ok. Much less the other shit

R572 How come no one has screenshots?

R576 are we really defending a random sketchy update account? Many Joe fans have at a minimum screenshots of them being blocked by the account having never tweeted anything negative about kit, and even huge kit fans like that Mills girl have called out the account for being weird about Joe. Do you seriously need receipts on Joe hate?

Found the owner

R576 because no one cares that much? It’s a massive update account and we’re just a small group shit talking. It was mentioned at the time and I saw a few. It’s fine for it to just be a fans of Kit ofc - they’re not going to be interlinked forever - but no need to be cunts about one of Kit’s mates.

Update accounts are free to block whoever they want. DJL does to people who troll his posts but KCI is notorious for doing it just because.

R577 People want receipts for everything. Idk why asking for screenshots is a big deal. R578 Yes, good job.

R581 interesting. When someone asked for links or screenshots of Jeremy O Harris’s other alleged sketchy tweets about Kit, you flipped out on them and said they had a hard on for defending someone who was cruel to Kit. But now when it’s about joe “idk why asking for screenshots is a big deal” and “people want receipts for everything”. So as usual one rule for Kit and one for joe for you, eh?

R582 the way he always shows his ass about Joe because he can’t help but defend the hate he gets is hilarious

R575 For the record I'm the guy that asked about the tweets they liked and I don't need screenshots, the other person jumped in.

Not sure if this is a late tweet or if he's back on the IOM, but just in case.

R582 Maybe because it’s a person that interacted with Kit and knows him personally irl. We’re talking about update accounts… If some said the Joe update account liked Kit hate tweets you wouldn’t want to see receipts? Be serious.

R585 always an excuse, huh. Go find all the Jeremy tweets now then, since you’re so good with receipts

And for the record no, I’d believe a lot of sketchy accounts are dicks about Kit. People have said Cindy runs joe Locke latam and I accepted that without proof, because I don’t have a hard on for denying Kit gets hate. You should try growing a soul and caring a tad about joe. Or shutting the fuck up.

R584 nah don’t worry. Asking what they liked out of curiosity is fair enough.

R585 keep justifying it. Fact remains you have a weird complex. Kit won’t fuck you just because you deny his good friend gets hate. Hope that helps!

Don't you guys have hangovers to manage. Directed at you all

R588 I'm on antibiotics so no, unfortunately.

R588 am hungover as fuck but never too hungover to call out a dumb bitch with a complex about joe that can be spotted a mile away

That account likes every reply to them that's praising Kit and 99% of the other liked tweets are not in English, which is why you aren't going to get your receipts. Just believe it and move on. Too many people talked about it and also talked about the accounting blocking their accounts for no reason for it not to be true. Giving shades of please provide proof that Harry Lambert followed Joe even if everyone said he did but some one still kept arguing maybe he didn't. Probably the same person.

Anyway, don't know about you all but my reporting on twitter the other day of the queerbaiter cunt accounts all got rejected. I just wish twitter (and Elon) would die

R586 Always an overreaction huh? Fuck off

R592 same. I reported 6 (the really obvious Mary one and her new little friend, the two new people spewing shit about Joe, and then lexxie and Cindy as a why not measure) and all rejected

R594 enjoy you keeping it balanced.

R593 you literally search for bad comments about kit on IG to come cry about them and then become a defense attorney for random update accounts that hate on Joe. No fewer than 6 people are calling you out rn. Get medical help, Fuck ofd, or stop breathing. All three would improve the threads

Love her ignoring someone explaining there have been examples of them believing update accounts are dicks about kit without explanation or screenshots requested. She really is anti Joe. It’s hilarious

This one goes out to the Bash stan obsessed with IMDb.

R598 pour one out

Something to truly reunite us

New thread. Someone else do the pictures - I steal them all from you guys anyway