So the Acting Oscar winners will be:

My guesses: Murphy, Gladstone, Downey, Randolph

Barbie will sweep the awards like Ben Hur

Bradley Cooper will win Best Portrayal of a Closet Case By a Closet Case

I predict a Paul Giamatti upset win. The Maestro backlash keeps getting louder and Cooper isn’t getting much critical love for his attention seeking performance. Murphy will be nominated again. He won’t hear for looking constipated in scene after scene. Nolan’s films are not acting showcases for anyone involved (except Gary Oldman, the only standout performance in Oppenheimer). Sandra Huller should win Best Actress.

Danielle Brooks (as Sofia in THE COLOR PURPLE) will beat out DaVine Joy Randolph. It's a terrific, scene-stealing performance.

IMHO

Hear hear!

R4: Praying for a Giamatti upset. I'm also hoping The Holdovers sweeps everything.

Praying for Charles Melton as Best Supporting Actor.

[quote]Barbie will sweep the awards like Ben Hur

I think the only two definites are whichever Screenplay category it goes in (I would assume Adapted, but it's not based on an specific piece of media, so who knows) and Ryan Gosling. I doubt very seriously they'll give Greta Gerwig Best Director, so Screenplay will be her consolation prize.

Ryan Goaling

I don't think Gladstone will win. I don't know who is the frontrunner in that category. I'm picking Danielle Brooks for supporting actress. I'd say it's an even race between RDJ and Gosling for supporting actor.

R11: Along with America Ferrera getting snubbed, I hope that Gladstone doesn't win. She's super uncharismatic and the win would be a waste a la Lupita Nyongo.

RDJ was just ok. He was a little bit feisty. I hadn't seen him in anything in 15 years so was disappointed he looks old now.

Gosling was adorable, but he won't win an Oscar for that performance. Neither will Melton--it will be honor enough just for him to be nominated.

It's almost certain to go to RDJ--the Academy loves his overall life story of redemption after disgrace, and appreciates all the money he's brought in to Hollywood over the last 20 years. Plus he's a genuinely fine actor and it's a genuinely superb performance (and very unlike the roles he usually does).

R12 Gladstone really gives retard vibes. She's also not pretty and maybe it's the Reinhardt film she did but the chick just seems real dykey, mannish, basketball playing, butch and modern.

We are furtively hoping for Mr. Disraeli.

Would Carey Mulligan go in as Lead or Supporting?

The winners will be:

Paul Giamatti

Carey Mulligan (she has lead billing over Cooper, r17 - and deserves it!)

RDJ

DaVine Joy Randolph

Huller's performance in Anatomy of a Fall kept changing and revealing new layers of her character, while seeming "not dramatic", just matter of fact. In my opinion the best performance by an actress in 2023. I am big Mulligan fan (who was the most important character in her film, I thought R17), but she was pretty "technique" as opposed to Huller's curious authenticity.

My hope is Barbenheimer doesn’t infect the Supporting Actress category with throwaway nominations to Ferrera and Blunt over much more deserving work from Sandra Huller for Zone of Interest, Julianne Moore, Jodie Foster, Rachel McAdams, Penelope Cruz, and Claire Foy.

And of course Rosamund Pike

Emily Cunt is unfortunately a lock at this point. Barbie will probably get the most nominations and Ferrera will likely get a cottail nomination, which will be truly disgusting.

If it's between Rosamund and Jodie, I don't know what I'll do! Love them both.

I hated everything about Maestro except Carey Mulligan. She’s overdue and could be the dark horse in the lead actress category. For voters sick with Emma Stone fatigue or who don’t get the Gladstone love, Mulligan is a viable third choice.

I forgot about Rosamond Pike! Yes please!

Oppenheimer was a huge box office success and phenomenon, and Maestro is pretty much forgotten a few weeks after its release. Murphy and Oppenheimer for the win.

RDJ is a nepo baby and I agree R13 the performance was nothing to write home about.

"Gladstone really gives retard vibes."

Only right-wing incels use "retard" as an insult.

"Along with America Ferrera getting snubbed, I hope that Gladstone doesn't win. She's super uncharismatic and the win would be a waste a la Lupita Nyongo."

Translation: only white people should ever get nominated for anything. Even overrated hacks like Bradley Cooper

Oppenheimer is a very very Oscar-friendly movie that made a lot of money in theaters. That hasn't happened in a while so it's going to win a lot of Oscars. Sometimes the most obvious answer is the right one.

Cillian Murphy impressed me, I hope he wins.

R12, Lupita almost made it into Best Actress for “Us” and headlines (and hopefully replaces Cunt) in the new Quiet Place movie. Her win certainly positioned her for further Hollywood success, unlike Zeta-Jones, Connelly, Sorvino, Paquin, and many other white Oscar winners.

Um, excuse me!

For a while there it looked as if Ruth Negga was going to seriously contend for awards and advance her career. That buzz seems to have fizzled out. I hope she returns as a viable, interesting actress.

I came name three actors I think will be locks for Best Actor nominations: Cillian Murphy, Bradley Cooper and Leonardo DiCaprio. The other two, I can't choose. Cillian for me should win but Cooper has previous nominations and hasn't won so I hope he's not a pity win.

I can't believe Ruth Negga didn't change her name!

"Maestro" isn't getting much love, so although I think both Cooper and Mulligan will get acting nominations , neither will win. The accents alone may be accurate but most audiences have found them so off-putting.

Another Oscarless year for Annette Bening?

Charles Melton for Best Supporting Actor

R38 I thought she was very good.

R38 Also, I remember when Nyad was in the news a lot back then , that woman was driven. I think Annette portrayed that beautifully. Don't give up yet.

I saw The Holdovers and thought Giamotti was outstanding, and I’m not usually a fan. The young actor was great, too. I thought Randolph was just okay. Maybe I had residual bad vibes from her terrible performance on The Idol. Or maybe I was expecting too much after all the hype. She will probably win, as it’s the kind of role the Oscars like to award for Supporting. She certainly wasn’t as good as Julianne, Jodie, or Rosamund. I hope they all get nominated. I haven’t seen Color Purple yet, but some friends did and praised Danielle Brooks, so maybe it will be her.

Anyone but Emma Stone.

Best Actress is kind of slim pickings this year, no?

R44, Best Actress is more crowded than any other category this year (especially since Margot Robbie is guaranteed a nod), Stone, Gladstone, Huller, Mulligan will all edge out Greta Lee, Natalie Portman, Annette Bening, and Fantasia Barrino.

R42: I don’t get the people who say Giamatti is doing his usual schtick or that he’s giving his Sideways performance all over again. His work was very layered and moving. Randolph was funny and heartfelt but I agree she deserves the nomination but not the win. I think part of the problem is we don’t get to know her character that well and she doesn’t have as much screen time as Giamatti and Sessa. Speaking of Sessa, his age works against him but I thought he was better than Charles Melton.

[Quote] Another Oscarless year for Annette Bening?

As there is no real favorite for Best Actress this year, and Benning has never won after 4 nominations that she could win on her 5th?

Now that I see them listed at r45, I'm gonna go out on a limb and pick Fantasia for actress.

She's not going to get Whoopi's vote R48

5 of these 6 will be nominated: Benning, Gladstone, Mulligan, Portman, Robbie and Stone

R50, you’re forgetting Sandra Huller, who is easily ahead of Bening and Portman. She might even be ahead of Mulligan based on Maestro’s disastrous Netflix debut.

Although if I had to pick someone who might show up on nomination morning that few are predicting, it’s Greta Lee. Past Lives has a lot of very passionate fans, and it seems fairly likely to earn Picture and Screenplay nominations. She has a better case for a lot of #1 votes than a lot of possible contenders, and that’s what matters.

No one is forgetting Sandra Huller R51; no one knows who she is! Fantasia has a better chance.

Fantasia has a better chance of winning the Oscar for Best Actress than Mulligan does (although Fantasia's recent interview in the Times did her no favors--she acted as if playing the part both on Broadway and in the film were a burden for her).

I think Emma Stone is very much in the mix still too, but I do think in the end it will go to Gladstone. It's a phenomenal performance, the studio has really been pushing it, and the AMPAS will want to take the opportunity to award its first Oscar for a leading role to a Native American.

I bet Maesto gets snubbed.

I hope Blunt is snubbed. There was absolutely nothing unique about that performance.

First Variety and now the Hollywood Reporter roundtable. Annette really wants it this year.

[Quote] I hope Blunt is snubbed. There was absolutely nothing unique about that performance.

Ditto America Ferrera in Barbie

Murphy for Oppenheimer or Giamatti for his overall body of work

Carey Mulligan for Maestro

RDJ for Oppenheimer

DaVine Joy Randolph for The Holdovers (though I would disagree)

I hope Killers of the Flower Moon doesn't win Best Picture. It's time to stop encouraging Scorsese to make these endless, ponderous movies.

Blunt was barely in the movie and the stuff she did do was pretty one note. All Ferrera did was give a cringeworthy monologue. Please don’t do this Academy. There are plenty more actresses who deserve those supporting slots this year.

Julianne Moore May December >>>> Julianne Moore Still Alice. If she was still oscarless, she’d probably be sweeping now for May December.

America Ferrera is actively bad in Barbie. But, I'm not sure where standards are with the academy anymore since the wins by JLC and Everything Everywhere last year.

R59 was that martini glass glued to Blunt's hand?

considering all the interesting possible nominee's for Best Actress, does Robbie really deserve a nod?

What does the possible nominee possess?

nominees ^^^

Cillian Murphy. Intense performance and extreme screen presence.

R66, impressive that he remained in character (for such a long film), but also a bit mannered and one-note for an Oscar win. I think he has great shot of winning, but there are more deserving contenders.

Hoping Greta Lee gets nominated for Past Lives. She has very little chance of winning, but she deserves a nomination. Beautiful film.

I've never taken a shine to Giamatti.

Greta Lee would be my choice to win, R68. I don’t expect her to be nominated but it would be a wonderful choice.

R63: Like her or not she’s a lock for a nomination. Barbie is going to lead the pack in nominations and she literally is the movie. There’s no way she misses. Also, while I’m personally not a fan of hers, the Academy clearly likes her and nominated her twice before.

Jamie Lee Curtis for best supporting actress.

How grande dame will JLC be as she presents Supporting Actor?

[quote]Jamie Lee Curtis for best supporting actress.

She'll get the Nepo Baby vote. They totally believe in being rewarded for doing nothing.

Because Jamie Lee Curtis has tried to reclaim the term Nepo Baby, there's a chance that she'll do something like say "From one Nepo Baby to another, the Oscar goes to Robert Downey Jr." when she presents the award for Supporting Actor to him at the next ceremony.

That's cringey enough that I think she might just do it.

[quote]But, I'm not sure where standards are with the academy anymore since the wins by JLC and Everything Everywhere last year.

Move on, Angela.

Apparently Gladstone uses she/they pronouns as “a way of decolonizing gender.”

She sounds exhausting.

[Quote] She sounds exhausting.

Just like the movie R77

WALL STREET JOURNAL

Ms. Gladstone draws a lot of sympathy as the modest, helpless Mollie, but like everything else here her performance suffers from inertia. She spends the bulk of the movie mired in illness and despondency, and her look mirrors how I felt as I watched: numb and trapped.

R77 is probably a Trump voter.

Very exhausting

Does DiCaprio deserve a nomination?

No, R80. Especially not at the expense of someoeine Andrew Scott (All of Us Strangers) or Jeffrey Wright (American Fiction).

No need for DiCaprio’s “filler nod” this year.

Saw Anatomy of a Fall today, and Sandra Huller totally deserves a nomination.

[quote]Does DiCaprio deserve a nomination?

Yes, for best sugar daddy.

I know Andrew Scott is a long shot but I hope he gets that fourth or fifth slot. Huller is definitely a lock in actress.

It’s going to be Charles Melton. It won’t even be close. Melton is incredible in May December, has won all the critics’ awards so far and is charming as hell on the awards circuit.

From the nepo to the bottle never satisfied.

[quote]Apparently Gladstone uses she/they pronouns as “a way of decolonizing gender.”

You go, girl! Bait the Academy!

R85: If he wins the Globe and gives a great speech, then the Melton train will be unstoppable. Even people who didn't like May December agree that Melton is the best and most memorable part of the film. Don't give this to nepo baby RDJ just because he's made millions for Hollywood over the years. Also, won't it be worth it to watch Chalamet sit there and contain his jealousy as Melton gives a charming, winning speech?

Also, Vili Fualaau, whom his character is based on, has garnered a lot of sympathy from the public in recent years.

[quote]Carey Mulligan (she has lead billing over Cooper, [R17] - and deserves it!)

How did Carey Mulligan get top billing?

Bradley Cooper is the title/main character, a much bigger box-office star, and has 9 Oscar nominations to her 2.

R90, it was a sly move by Cooper to show everyone that “Maestro” wasn’t a vanity project focused on him. She’s great in a poorly written part, but the movie would have been stronger (and more authentic) with less focus on her.

Vagina privilege, r90.

As someone else stated elsewhere, MAESTRO is another “I Married a Fag” film.

Murphy - Mulligan - RDJ - Randolph

Bradley Cooper co-wrote and directed Maestro. He'll get nominated in more t han one category. Carey Mulligan will get nominated too. Best Actor category. Now Cillian will get nominated as will Jeffrey Wright and Leo as well. Colman Domingo will get nominated for Rustin. Besides Mulligan, Lily Gladstone. Not sure who would be considered lead for Color Purple, but Taraji Henson deserves at least the Best Supporting actress nomination. Fantasia did a good job, but she wasn't Oscar worthy, IMO. I expect Robert De Niro and Robert Downey Jr to both get nominated in Supporting roles. Colman Domingo might get nominated in supporting for Color {Purple. Emily Blunt will definitely get a nomination in supporting category for Oppenheimer.

[quote] Carey Mulligan will get nominated too. Best Actor category.

She’s trans?

[QUOTE] Colman Domingo might get nominated in supporting for Color {Purple.

No, he won’t. Are you posting from September 2023?

I’m starting to think Danielle Brooks will take it from Randolph. Musical performances do really well - Catherine Zeta Jones, Jennifer Hudson, Ariana Debose.

[quote]Another Oscarless year for Annette Bening?

She'll have to be content looking at her husbands two on the mantle.

[quote]Even people who didn't like May December agree that Melton is the best and most memorable part of the film.

Please, he had about four lines and then just moped through out it. Nothing he did was memorable. Stop thinking with your dick.

RDJ was just as good as an MElton and Hollywood loves him. Melton is adorable and was memorable in the role but he hasn’t done much so far and the academy does not usually recognize young actors. I do think it will be close but I would bet on RDJ

Billy Porter!

And the winners are:

Paul Giamatti - The Holdovers

Sandra Huller - Anatomy of a Fall

Rachel McAdams - Are You There God, It’s Me Margaret

Mark Ruffalo - Poor Things

I have seen The Holdovers twice. It held up on 2nd viewing, but I am still puzzled at how many accolades Da'Vine Joy Randolph is getting. She does nothing wrong, but there's no character there. Every time you think they're going to delve into what's going on with Mary, they cut away from the scene. The character is never really afforded her moment. And what's left on the screen is good, but it's not Oscar worthy. I can think of multiple women I would nominate over Randolph this year, but most of their performances have been completely ignored. In fact, all of them have. There are Harriet Harris and Jane Curtin in Jules, Anne Hathaway and Marin Ireland in Eileen, and Jodie Foster in Nyad, all much more deserving than Randolph. I have not yet seen The Color Purple (I just can't stomach sitting down to watch it) but if the role is as good in the musical as it was in the original film, then I would assume Danielle Brooks deserves to be up there, too, as she is a terrific actress.

I also don't really get the Charles Melton love. In a very weak year, I would maybe throw him a nomination, but not this year. RDJ deserves the Oscar, plain and simple, but Jamie Bell (All of Us Strangers), Dominic Sessa (The Holdovers) and Glenn Howerton (Blackberry) all did amazing work. Hell, I'd even throw in Dave Bautista for Knock at the Cabin before Melton. Not a great movie by any stretch of the imagination, but he gave a really terrific performance in that, and once again showed he's a real actor.

It would pain me greatly to see either of the men from Killers of the Flower Moon get nominated. It's time to admit that DeNiro is actually a terrible actor. He's been giving the same fucking performance for 50 years. When the material is excellent, it works. When it isn't (and let's face it, it hasn't been for more than 25 of those 50 years), all you see are his same tics and tricks. And DiCaprio was about 20 years too old for his role and looked ridiculous.

I didn't love Lily Gladstone (and personally wouldn't nominate her) but if she's nominated for Best Actress, I will vote for her because she's the only serious competition for Carey Mulligan, whom I despise as an actress. And I also loathed Maestro and would love to see it shut out. My pick for Best Actress is Phoebe Dynevor for Fair Play, another film that's been criminally overlooked in several categories. Netflix bought it at Sundance for $30m and then just buried it. I don't understand their strategy on this (or their lack of one). After her, I'd go for Annette Bening for Nyad, but she barely has a hope in hell for a nomination. I also loved Teyana Taylor in A Thousand and One, another film that has been criminally ignored. It isn't even on the AMPAS streaming site, which I don't understand at all.

My personal picks are

Ben Kingsley for Jules Phoebe Dynevor for Fair Play RDJ for Oppenheimer Jodie Foster for Nyad

My predictions are Cillian Murphy, Lily Gladstone, RDJ and Da'Vine Joy Randolph

R103, would you list Claire Foy in your Best Supporting Actress round-up? I thought she was incredible in All of Us Strangers (as was Jamie Bell alongside her), especially in her one-on-one scene with Andrew Scott which was perfectly played.

I would put her as my #1 this year in that category.

My God you people call yourself homosexuals

The winners will be Murphy, Stone, Downey, and Gladstone if Gladstone goes into Supporting; or Murphy, Stone, Downey and Blunt if Gladstone goes into Lead. This will be the most anticlimatic Oscars ever.

Davine Joy Randolph's nomination is her win. No one knows who she is. The movie was not a hit. Octavia Spencer was largely unknown outside of those who keep track of character actors when she did "The Help." But "The Help" did $213 million worldwide (it would be close to $300 million with inflation if released today.) The Holdovers has made a mere $19 million worldwide and will probably gross $30 million in total. So, the film is 1/10 the success of "The Help." It's not getting any Oscars.

But that's not the real reason she's not getting an Oscar. The reason she's not getting an Oscar is because The Holdovers was released by Universal Pictures. Do you know what else was released by Universal Pictures? Oppenheimer! And Donna Langley will put all her resources available in getting Blunt the Oscar if Gladstone goes into Lead. And why is that? It's not just because Donna Langley wants an Oscar juggernaut, although she does.

A mere two months after the Academy Awards, Universal releases a big summer movie starring Ryan Gosling and guess who? Emily Blunt! And "The Fall Guy" is a risky proposition, not being based on any hot IP but on a forty year old Lee Majors series that was a passion for Gosling for whatever reason. So Donna Langley will want OSCAR WINNER EMILY BLUNT plastered on all the advertisements of what is a very risky proposition nowadays - a star driven studio-action comedy not based on a comic book, toy, or other well known franchise. It doesn't hurt that Blunt, like Langley, is British, or that Blunt, like Langley, is playing a female moviemaker in "The Fall Guy" either.

And everybody knows that when one studio has two actors or directors competing for the same Oscar, they choose. It isn't fair, but that's how Hollywood works. Rob Marshall would have very likely won the directing Oscar for "Chicago" if Harvey Weinstein had not told Marshall to his face that he was backing Martin Scorcese for Miramax's other Oscar heavyweight that year, "Gangs of New York" (the backlash to Weinstein doing this led to Roman Polanski's surprise win which now counts as one of the Academy's biggest embarrasments). And Renee Zellwegger may have won a much more deserved Oscar for her Roxie Hart if Weinstein hadn't decided to back Nicole Kidman in "The Hours."

So, the studio will choose and they will choose Emily Blunt because Universal wants to make "The Fall Guy" not just a hit but a franchise.

This is not difficult stuff.

Yeah, because people who go see shit like The Fall Guy will be that much more lured in by the promise of an Oscar winner.

[quote] [R103], would you list Claire Foy in your Best Supporting Actress round-up? I thought she was incredible in All of Us Strangers (as was Jamie Bell alongside her), especially in her one-on-one scene with Andrew Scott which was perfectly played.

I wouldn't. I felt she was the weak link in the cast of four. I'd be happy to see Andrew Scott in there for lead, but I think it's going to be a stretch for that film to get anything.

R105, which is your real account and not this sock puppet one you use. I only see two posts from you, and there's no way a gigantic know-it-all blowhard like yourself could possibly contain himself to two posts. Fess up. Are you the insufferable maestro poster who insists a conductor is useless?

R103: What are your thoughts on Sandra Huller in "Anatomy of a Fall"?

Helen Lawson for her heartbreaking performance in “Tomorrow is Mine”.

R109, I started it, but then got distracted and I have not gone back to it. I wasn't in the mood when I sat down to watch, and the stupid music she used to mask the sounds got on my nerves. I will definitely sit down and watch it seriously in the next week, along with The Zone of Interest. I had friends over this weekend and they wanted to watch Wonka, and then The Holdovers (which I'd already seen), so I've been a little lax on catching up. Anatomy has been on AMPAS for weeks, so I really have no good excuse.

I feel like her performance is the only major one I'm missing, outside of the women of The Color Purple.

[quote] Davine Joy Randolph's nomination is her win. No one knows who she is.

Millions know her from "Only Murders in the Building" where she stole every frame she was in. The show is now being shown on ABC so many more will know her by Oscar time.

I wish Harris Dickinson's role would have been larger in The Iron Claw because he'd be a great supporting actor nominee, but they don't explore his character as much as they should before he goes.

R105 the more likely reason Randolph is a front runner for Best Supporting Actress is that she's already won the New York Film Critics Circle, The National Board of Review and the Los Angeles Film Critics awards.

R103 Well, I was going to dismiss your analysis for not having mentioned Huller, whose performance was the most interesting and original of them all this year, men and women. But you said you hadn't seen anatomy... her character continues to evolve throughout the film. Riveting to watch her not reveal/reveal. Re: Randolph:

[quote]The character is never really afforded her moment

Did you not see the kitchen scene where she was drunk and uber-histrionic. Almost fell on the floor flipping around like a fish out of water. The whole movie's "70s quirky film" vibe didn't work for me. I just though it was weak team cinematography and Randolf didn't move me much and Giamatti was performing the ghost of Richard Dreyfus.

You detest Mulligan. She, like Streep, can be severely techniquey and mannered, but her skillset is undeniable. But I think her performance in Wildlife was the best of any actress in the past decade. She was full of tricks in Maestro, but just the kind of tricks the Academy snorff's up. Cf. Streep.

[quote] Did you not see the kitchen scene where she was drunk and uber-histrionic. Almost fell on the floor flipping around like a fish out of water. The whole movie's "70s quirky film" vibe didn't work for me. I just though it was weak team cinematography and Randolf didn't move me much and Giamatti was performing the ghost of Richard Dreyfus.

I did, and I felt like they cut out of the scene right before she was going to have her moment. She doesn't really do anything in that scene but cry, and spends most of it with her back to us. And then by the next scene, when they're walking out the door, she's back to her sassy self as if the previous scene never happened.

My vote would be Giamatti, Fantasia, Melton, and Randolph. Brooks is deserving but give Randolph the edge for creating a new character. I have to make a choice somehow. For best picture, I’d pick Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning Part 2. The most fun I had in the theater all year and the critics back me up. 96% on RottenTomatoes. My runner-up is Are You There God? , It’s Me, Margaret

Part 1, I mean

We don't even know the nominations yet, I'll make my guesses when that happens on January 23rd.

Based on all the other awards, it’s easy to pick who is in the running. Even moreso if you’ve seen the films.

[quote]Millions know her from "Only Murders in the Building" where she stole every frame she was in. The show is now being shown on ABC so many more will know her by Oscar time.

In Hollywood, Rose. This is a movies award. People vote for who they've worked with.

Alexander Payne loves to cast television actors (Thomas Haden Church, Virginia Madsen, Sandra Oh, Will Forte) or little known character actors (June Squibb, Hong Chau). They usually aren't well-known so it helps the verisimilitude. They usually do a very good job. They usually get lots of critics awards. And they get Oscar nominations. But they don't win. Ever. The only Oscar winner that comes out of an Alexander Payne film is Alexander Payne, baby!

I'm sure Davine Joy Randolph is excellent in the Holdovers. She will get a lot of opportunities in the future, just like Taraji P Henson got a lot of opportunities after Benjamin Button. But there's no narrative to give her an Academy Award. The voters want a narrative. Lily Gladstone? First Indigenous Oscar winner (thanks, CBC!) Emily Blunt? First nomination after many notable snubs (Devil Wears Prada, Sicario, Edge of Tomorrow, Into the Woods, the Young Victoria, A Quiet Place) and she's worked with half the Academy. Davine Joy Randolph? It's an honor for you to be nominated.

Plus, voters would not bother to watch The Holdovers. Yawn.

Please not Murphy staring his way through Oppenheimer like he was in Village of the Damned. There are much better performances in the film than his.

Hoping it will be Cooper or Giamatti.

Best Actress is such a clusterfuck of strong performances. Emma Stone's performance is masterful but will she get her second so soon after La La Land?

Each category has good options this year for a nice change.

I think people are underestimating The Holdovers.

Keep digging your hole, R121.

Poor Things isn't gonna win a thing. People either hate the movie or they pretend they think it's so avant garde, but in reality, they weren't able to get through it. It will get nominations because people like the actors involved, but it's not winning any awards.

R123: Once you win that first one, they don’t mind giving you another one.

R123 Yep, I don't get the Murphy love at all. He has nice bone structure and those deer-in-the-headlights eyes are occasionally pretty.... but in one of the "meatiest" actor's parts in a long time, in a story that was thoughfullly written, with the most morally ambiguous character of the 20th century...for me, he brought absolutely nothing to the role. No nuance. No layers. No empathy-generation. Blank Frank.

[quote]The voters want a narrative. Lily Gladstone? First Indigenous Oscar winner

How soon they forget.

Buffy, R121 already pointed out that the CBC busted you.

Well yes I'm sure r128 heard considering what else they wrote in their handle

[quote] I don't get the Murphy love at all.

And guess what! You don't vote for the Oscars either!

I swear every year some queens on here think someone isn't going to win a shoe-in Oscar because "I didn't like it." In 1997 the critic for the LA Times Kenneth Turan worked himself up into a frothing at the mouth fit because he didn't like "Titanic" and thought "LA Confidential" deserved to win the Oscar. Everyone knew "Titanic" was going to win the Oscar. It won the Oscar. Thirty years later, everyone still remembers "Titanic." Everyone can quote "Titanic." "LA Confidential" hasn't proved terribly influential. More "pop" neo-noirs from that era like "Se7en" and "Fight Club" and even tiny little "Memento" ended up being more influential than "LA Confidential."

My point is that your preferences are your preferences. You didn't like it? Fine. Your opinion is valid. But just realize you are very much in a minority.

[quote]Yeah, because people who go see shit like The Fall Guy will be that much more lured in by the promise of an Oscar winner.

I have news for you.

NOBODY goes to see a film on the basis of someone winning an Academy Award. What was the last Troy Kotsur film you saw? Or Key Huy Quan film?

The entire point of the Academy Award is to generate residual column inches. It generates attention. The winner gets more photos on social media, more hits on Google.

Halle Berry's first film after her Oscar win was "Catwoman." Charlize Theron's was "Aeon Flux." Alicia Vikander's was "Tomb Raider." None of those films targeted prestige film audiences, but the actresses were able to get cast in them and get big paychecks for them, terrible as they all were, because people were now paying ATTENTION to them. That's all the Academy Award is. It's a little bit of attention.

Actually IIRC both Angelina Jolie and Alicia Vikander's first film after winning an Oscar was "Tomb Raider."

[quote] Halle Berry's first film after her Oscar win was "Catwoman." Charlize Theron's was "Aeon Flux." Alicia Vikander's was "Tomb Raider." None of those films targeted prestige film audiences, but the actresses were able to get cast in them and get big paychecks for them, terrible as they all were, because people were now paying ATTENTION to them. That's all the Academy Award is. It's a little bit of attention.

And all those films were bombs, so it looks like whatever blather you're going on about actually did nothing to help them, the same way it won't help The Fall Guy if Emily Blunt wins an Oscar (which she won't).

The woman in The Holdovers didn't have much of a part at all.

And r134, as I have said on here before many many times:

Talking to people who don't understand show business is EXACTLY like talking to children.

Oh, you're THAT asshole.

I think Carey Mulligan will get actress.

The character in The Holdovers is another in a long line of portrayals of black women, written by white men or women, in whose value within the film primarily comes from the care she provides for the white protagonist.

This type of portrayal has fallen out of favor. Actresses still get nominated for the role (Viola Davis in The Help "YOU IS KIND! YOU IS SMART! YOU IS IMPORTANT!", Taranji in Benjamin Button, Octavia Spencer in Shape of Water) but they don't win. Octavia Spencer only won the Oscar for The Help because the role was subversive. Viola's straightforward interpretation of the role failed to win and even Viola has distanced herself from it. If Oscar voters wanted to award an actress of color (assuming Gladstone isn't in this category) they could choose either of the ladies from The Color Purple, Danielle Brooks or Taranji Henson (both playing roles for which their predecessors were nominated for in the Steven Spielberg film.) Taranji could have made a strong argument that she is due for recognition (third Oscar nomination) but she's already botched it with her whining, legitimate or not, about her pay.

I just want to remind all the know-it-alls that Cate Blanchett lost last year.

Most people were not expecting Cate Blanchett to win last year. The film was a flop. She was playing a stereotypical villainous lesbian sexual predator. It was very un PC. What was the narrative? Everyone knows she's one of the finest actors alive. She already has two Oscars.

Michelle Yeoh's film made money. She had a wonderful narrative about a long-marginalized demographic in Hollywood (BTW did you know Anna May Wong is on our money now?). And not just Asian women, but women in their sixties. There was almost no doubt that she would win the Oscar.

What coin is Anna May Wong on?

R139 Taraji hasn't been nominated twice for gods sake

Randolph is out front because she plays a sassy black woman with a heart of gold. Just ask Octavia Spencer.

My mistake she was not nominated for Hidden Figures (Octavia was)

R142 the quarter, representing California

Octavia should have been nominated for 'Ma' and that's it.

Randolph is winning the critics awards because the critics tend to be somewhat reactionary. The fact that the role is not being criticized more is because no one is watching this movie. This role is Dilsey from Sound & the Fury. It’s the kind of role which really shouldn’t be made anymore unless it’s being deconstructed by Jordan Peele (or, as mentioned above, Octavia Spencer in Ma. Ma was a brilliant deconstruction of the “black caretaker of white children” trope.)

[quote] [R77] is probably a Trump voter.

Nice bipolar world you live in, retard. Unless a person is a flamingly performative wokester, they must be a trumpkin.

I did more to get democrats elected just in 2020 than you’ve done in your entire life.

R121, the Academy rightfully passed Blunt over for Devil Wears Prada, Sicario, Edge of Tomorrow, Into the Woods, the Young Victoria, A Quiet Place ( and the unnecessary Mary Poppins film). She wasn’t a standout awards contender in any of those films. She’s never given an exemplary performance despite Hollywood having a huge hard on for her and chasing her for plum roles.

While I think she had more Hollywood heavyweights who campaign for her (being white and British helps), it would be abhorrent to award her minor performance in Oppenheimer over so many more deserving performances (Cruz, McAdams, Foster, Randolph, Brooks, Pike, Huller). If she was a decade younger, she could her the “ingenue” bump that benefited Vikander, Connelly, and Sorvino, but she’s 40+ now. She will be lucky to be nominated, but she is not overdue for far anything based on her average performances to date.

The Fall Guy box office potential ain’t gonna factor here. She also looks older than Ryan Gosling - what a weak combo.

Blunt won the SAG for A Quiet Place? Quite odd.

Blunt has done 20yrs of middle-brow shit. And look who her husband is, Jim..

R121 Emily Blunt!! absolutely not.

Ryan Gosling for the win.

R105 You sound really stupid. Gladstone is submitted lead. Period. Emily Blunt isn't winning a fucking Oscar for that part.

[Quote] Plus, voters would not bother to watch The Holdovers. Yawn.

voters don't watch most of the films period. Nonetheless The Holdovers will most likely be nominated for Best Picture, Actor, Supporting Actress, Original Screenplay

R105 is a moron

[quote]In Hollywood, Rose. This is a movies award. People vote for who they've worked with.

You think Hollywood didn't watch Steve Martin and Martin Short together is a series? How the fuck do you think they got Streep? Sit your ass down.

R154 you sound even stupider. It doesn’t matter where Apple submits her because Oscar voters ultimately decide her category. That’s why Daniel Kaluya and LaKeith Stanfield both ended up in Supporting. If they were both Supporting, who was the star of Judas and the Black Messiah?

I reiterate

Talking to people who know nothing about show business is like talking to children

Any sign of eligibility for La chimera? I’d enjoy seeing that beautiful freak Isabella Rossellini recognized as best supporting for her role of Flora. Maybe it’s too soon after Jamie Lee Curtis’ recognition for Everything Everywhere All At Once.

OP- No one cares about this anymore because no one goes to the movies anymore.

I just saw Anatomy of a Fall and I thought Sandra Hüller was just masterful. An exceptional performance that reveals itself in layers. The little boy who plays her son blows half of these Best Supporting Actor candidates off the map.

I don’t want to see ugly King of the Bros Leo at the Oscars this year. Such a phony.

Emily Blunt gave a courageous performance as a sulking firebrand wife to a man who didn’t seem to be fighting for himself in Oppenheimer.

The consensus on the real Kitty Oppenheimer seems to have been that she was a tremendously unlikable person and “wife of big man” is exactly the kind of role that’s easy for awards organizations to overlook, but she should get an Oscar as best actress for nailing everything that was wrong and everything that was right with the character she played.

R163, her character was poorly developed. She was window dressing. Forgettable. Nolan can’t write female characters.

R163, are you Emily Blunt’s PR person? You seem…overly invested.

The agents decide. They horse trade and lobby for votes.

R166, it’s not 1944.

You know who else played a poorly developed character but won an Oscar for delivering a firecracker monologue?

R164 Blunt's character almost always had a martini glass in hand. 🍸🍸🍸

R169 that's who her character was.

The crazy lover of Oppenheimer was a better actress than Blunt.

in terms of winning Blunt falls behind Rudolph (The Holdovers) Rosamund Pike (Saltburn) Julianne Moore (May December) Rachel McAdams (Are You There God . . .?) and even (God forbid!) America Ferrera (Barbie)

What does snorff possess?

Rosamund Pike absolutely needs to be nominated for Saltburn. It’s what that category was designed to recognize.

[quote] Talking to people who know nothing about show business is like talking to children

Can someone flush this turd already?

Florence Pugh was more appealing in Oppenheimer because that's what her character was supposed to be, and she will probably be nominated

but the industry consensus is that she'll dominate the Oscars for the next decade or so, so they'll hold off on giving it to her for Oppenheimer

Pugh does not deserve 💩 for another poorly written role from Nolan.

R173 It has autocorrect in hand.

R158 There's been no confusion about it anywhere. I mean, from you there has been. You're trying to call for some surprises.

[Quote] In Hollywood, Rose. This is a movies award. People vote for who they've worked with.

How many Academy members worked with Olivia Colman?

Carey Mulligan for the win.

R167 right, in 1944 it was the big powerful studios, today it's the big powerful agents.

I watched Anatomy of a Fall, and while it had some compelling scenes, over all I thought it was boring.

I liked the Holdovers actress but the sassy dignified sympathetic black woman act is played out. Octavia does it in her sleep.She will probably win but Jodie could be dangerous as a welcome back reward in a nicely restrained interesting performance.

[quote] How many Academy members worked with Olivia Colman?—G

It's not that a lot of Academy members worked with her, dear. It's that they have all worked with you.

A nomination for Jodie would be a lovely, we still love you but would they really give her a third?

I don’t get all the descriptions of Randolph’s character as “sassy black woman.” She’s intelligent, but deeply sad and while it’s true that her story is subordinate to that of teacher and student, she has a quiet and dignified quality and agency beyond being a servant to the “white folk.” I think it’s a lovely, real performance

I'm not paying $20 to watch The Holdovers at home, and it's not playing anywhere.

The Holdovers is now streaming for free on Peacock (if you have a subscription), R188.

I refuse to subscribe to Peacock. It's not worth it. So I'll wait.

Has anyone here seen Zone of Interest? It's not available in the U.S.

Murphy-Gladstone-RDJ-Rudolph

That seems a tad too…expected. Around this time last year, people thought Angela Basset was winning.

I never did R192

If you have to pay for a subscription, it’s not free.

For the person upthread who asked if I'd seen Anatomy of a Fall, I watched it last night and I would definitely put Sandra Huller in my five Best Actress nominees. Thought the film was very good, and her son as excellent, though I'm not sure if he'd be in my top 5 supporting actors, but I'd love to see him nominated for an Oscar over some of the shitty picks the Academy will likely go with.

Sandra Huller is in Zone of Interest and it's getting excellent reviews. Not available in the US until February, I think.

It’s streaming here R196. Fantastic movie and agree with R195 that Huller should be among the best actress nominees. And can a dog be nominated for an Oscar?

Zone of Interest is on the Academy streaming site. I'm making my way through The Teacher's Lounge right now and will probably hit Zone of Interest next.

I loved Sandra Huller in "Toni Erdmann," a few years back. For anyone who hasn't seen it, it's a wonderful movie.

I gave up on The Teacher's Lounge. I pretty much hated it. I've been mired in foreign films the past few days (Anatomy, Society of the Snow and this), so before I started The Zone of Interest, I reluctantly went to "Bottoms." Can someone tell me why they cast two women who were pushing 30 (and look every minute of it) to play high school girls? Jesus, Stockard Channing looked dewier in Grease.

Yes, but Zone of Interest isn't available to the general public in the U.S. is it? I don't have access to Academy streamers.

I'm not actually sure, R201. Where are you based? It had to open before Dec 31 in one of six cities to qualify for the Oscars, and a friend of mine in NYC said he was going to see it this weekend, so I assumed it was still playing (if in limited areas)

Peacock is low cost and definitely worth it for the office reruns alone

[quote] And can a dog be nominated for an Oscar?

Well, they've given it to a horse twice.

I was robbed.

Foreign movie: The Society of the Snow. Saw it yesterday. It was excellent.

Carey Mulligan Carey Mulligan Carey Mulligan

R206 is that the story of the plane crash in the Andes mountains with a sports team on it?

CAn I just say: Any time Natalie Portman farts her publicist gets out here talking about what an Oscar worthy performance it is. The Palm Springs International film festival gives us a good idea of who the Oscars are coalescing around

R208 Yes. It was SUPERB. I will get pissed if it doesn't at least get one Oscar nom.

When the book came out I remember reading about how they survived so I'm gonna take a hard pass.

The crash with supper for all - has been told before in other movies. Alive, big film in the early 90s with Ethan Hawke, was the same story. Interesting that it's a story that keeps being told.

R212 This movie is much better than Alive. Better sound effects, better CGI, better acting, more emotional etc. It deserves all the praise it's getting.

Survive! (1976) beat them all to the punch.

"Society of the Snow" is streaming on Netflix. I'll try it tonight.

National Society of Film Critics named Rudolph Best Supporting Actress. She's swept all the major critics' awards. The Oscar is hers to lose.

They named Andrew Scott (All of Us Strangers) Best Actor.

Before anyone pounces, R216, we know you meant Da'Vine Joy Randolph.

I'm a little surprised that she's dominated the critics' awards so thoroughly, but then again she's really the only Supporting Actress this year with the right role and the right movie. Every other Supporting Actress contender really only has one or the other.

[quote]'m a little surprised that she's dominated the critics' awards so thoroughly, but then again she's really the only Supporting Actress this year with the right role and the right movie. Every other Supporting Actress contender really only has one or the other.

Again, I have to mention Danielle Brooks in THE COLOR PURPLE. It's a great performance, and it certainly fits the mold of "the right role and the right movie." And she sings!

Brooks has the right role (the movie gives her a ton of great material, and she makes the most of it), but The Color Purple is a second-tier awards contender with the dubious distinction of being a hit movie for only a single day.

If The Color Purple sustained its Christmas grosses instead of fizzling immediately, the conversation around Supporting Actress might be very different.

[quote] If The Color Purple hadn't fakes its Christmas grosses and hadn't fizzled immediately, the conversation around Supporting Actress might be very different.

Fixed that for you.

Still, Randolph's performance is going to be yet another in the long line of Supporting Actress winners over the past 30 years where everyone later says- WTF??

(See everyone since Mira Sorvino, with the exception of CZJ and Mo'nique)

[quote](See everyone since Mira Sorvino, with the exception of CZJ and Mo'nique)

I would add Tilda Swinton and Octavia Spencer as exceptions.

I loved the Minari woman. She was great (even though I would have voted for Maria Bakalova that year).

I didn't find Swinton's Oscar objectionable, but I didn't think she deserved it. Spencer's was ridiculous, even though she is a good actress. Everyone's nomination for that shit film was an embarrassment.

Forgot to add that, I also don't necessarily object to Swinton's Oscar because she should have won one for We Need to Talk About Kevin, and wasn't even nominated. That was an immensely good performance.

[quote]she should have won one for We Need to Talk About Kevin, and wasn't even nominated

The only performances that rivaled hers that year—Kirsten Dunst and Charlotte Gainsbourg in Melancholia—also weren't nominated.

[quote]Survive! (1976) beat them all to the punch.

It's on Tubi (with ads, free) as well as Hoopla (no ads, free). I want to see it.

I'm rooting for Taraji to get nominated! I thought she was splendid!

Paul Giamatti is not this year's sentimental favorite.

The Oscar is Cillian's.

As the Best Actress one is going to---like the Pantone Color of the Year---2024's Designated Non-White Winner Lily Gladstone. (2023 = Asian [EEAAO]; 2022 = Black [Will Smith].)

Here's winners from The National Society of Film Critics

[quote](See everyone since Mira Sorvino, with the exception of CZJ and Mo'nique)

Are you saying Mira's win is WTF? Why, because it's comedic? She stole every frame. Allen had directed 18 acting nominations and seven wins.

At least the last few BSA winners haven’t been category frauds.

I tried to watch The Holdovers and couldn’t get into it. I really don’t like Alexander Payne films (other than Election). I will try again but PG didn’t seem to be doing anything that unique. He is a fine actor in general.

[quote] Are you saying Mira's win is WTF? Why, because it's comedic? She stole every frame. Allen had directed 18 acting nominations and seven wins.

And Mira's wasn't one of the ones that deserved it.

[quote]And Mira's wasn't one of the ones that deserved it.

Yeah, well the Academy, Golden Globes, National Board Of Review, New York Film Critics, & Critics Choice Awards don't agree with you. Not to mention her SAG, BAFTA, Los Angeles Film Critics nominations.

R230 Society of the Snow was robbed.

[quote] Yeah, well the Academy, Golden Globes, National Board Of Review, New York Film Critics, & Critics Choice Awards don't agree with you. Not to mention her SAG, BAFTA, Los Angeles Film Critics nominations.

Sweetie, they all also gave an award to Jennifer Hudson, and we know how that turned out. It has nothing to do with which performance is the best, it only has to do with who has the best PR team.

R233, ITA.

I just finished watching "The Holdovers." It is one of those warm-hearted, sentimental, some friction but not substantial,

That's Miss EGOT WINNER Jennifer Hudson to you, Bitch.

EGOT

E* for being part of a trio promoting The Color Purple on a Daytime talk show

G* Who knows? All her music is so forgettable

O* For giving the worst performance ever awarded an Oscar in the history of the Academy

T* For letting them use her name as a "producer" of a musical, where she didn't lift a finger and probably only met the cast and crew at photo ops.

Yeah, those are really something.

Oops! Continued r238:

....films about belonging, set in the "Teacher-Students" genre, ending with the catharsis of agape on the part of Giamatti's character, the lonely scholar with the socially-isolating medical condition of Trimethylaminuria (TMAU).

The concept of "family" is the main theme, with its concomitant motifs of honesty, loyalty, love, and sacrifice.

I will probably watch this movie again. I don't, however, think any awards are in its future.

I think you'd be wrong, R241. At this point, Randolph has it sewn up, deservedly or not. And with Barbie being moved to Adapted Screenplay (such nonsense), I think the frontrunner will be The Holdovers in Original Screenplay. Not saying it's a slam dunk like Randolph, but Barbie was its most serious competition because the Academy is dying to reward Gerwig for saving the industry.

I wouldn't count out Past Lives for Screenplay, R242. People love that movie, and it's maintained a surprising strength throughout the season. It's probably not fair, but there is a preference toward writer-directors in the screenplay categories, which might help Celine Song win over the guy who wrote The Holdovers who isn't Alexander Payne.

Oh, I'm not counting it out. I think it and Anatomy of a Fall offer definite competition, but I just don't know if Past Lives has as big a fan base as the press makes it seem. Would it surprise me if it won? No. But I think The Holdovers is the one to beat.

Giamatti

Mulligan

Melton

A Black woman.

If Paul Giamatti of the Wonky Eyes---his eyes are a part of the movie, including the ending---wins BA, it will show that the Academy really does like to reward sad-sack schlub roles [See: 2023].

I think Jeffrey Wright will take the Globe tonight over Giamatti.

Someone on Da'Vines team hates her for letting her leave the house in that dress.

Da Vine must reduce her bust.

Pete Repete here: The sure things

Gladstone

Murphy

Rudolph

RDJ

R245, a black woman with an MFA from Yale. Where did you go to school?

I haven't seen Poor Things but Mark Ruffalo is always excellent.

Best Picture: Oppenheimer

Best Actress: Sandra Hüller for Anatomy of a Fall

Best Actor: Paul Giamatti for The Holdovers

Best Supporting Actress: Da’Vine Joy Randolph for The Holdovers

Best Supporting Actor: Robert Downey Jr. for Oppenheimer

Best Director: Christopher Nolan for Oppenheimer

R253 must be Huller's agent. Snowball chance in hell!

Miss Lilly, you’re a one flop wonder. Oscar voters know this.

but unlike you Sandra I'll have an Oscar. btw who the fuck are you anyway?

R253, Two wrong.

BActor will be Cillian Murphy.

BActress will be Lily Gladstone.

Miss Lilly, I’m Sandra Hüller and up for two awards this year. A double nominee. Yes, by popular demand, I dropped kicked Emily Cunt’s unnecesary nomination to the curb in Supporting for The Zone of Interest.

That's why the Oscars has the foreign f ilm category. Zone of interest or Anatomy of a Fall will probably win as best foreign film. Huller will get nominated. Maybe. But she won't win. IMO the Oscar is between Margot Robbie and Lily Gladstone with Gladstone FTW.

Best Actress nominees will be Annette Bening, Margot Robbie, Lily Gladstone, Sandra Huller, Carey Mulligan. Best Actor nominees:Bradley Cooper, Cillian Murphy, Colman Domingo, Jeffrey Wright, Leo De Caprio.. Cillian is the frontrunner, but Bradley might pull it off.

You're forgetting Giamatti, R259. Last night's GG win puts him in the running.

Bradley Cooper will be the bridesmaid. He will have no major-award momentum heading to the Academy Awards.

And even if it is close in whatever awards (GG, CC, BAFTA, SAG) have by then accrued to Murphy and Giamatti, Cillian will win.

"Oppenheimer" simply has more gravitas, more social significance than yet another school-situated film about misfits, loners, redemption, and the One Savior Teacher [See, e.g.: "Up the Down Staircase"; "To Sir, With Love"; "The Dead Poets Society"], although "The Holdovers," referring to students on school break, doesn't show any other teacher in his classroom but Mr. Hunham, and only a handful of students.

Bradley Cooper will be an also-ran his entire career. Total snark vibes and he refuses to come out of his closet.

R259, um hello ye poor thing?

RDJr came off smug.

Is this going to be yet another year where the same nominees win each and every award given?

Yes

R246 Paul Giamatti's real eye is just fine...

[quote] That's why the Oscars has the foreign f ilm category. Zone of interest or Anatomy of a Fall will probably win as best foreign film. Huller will get nominated. Maybe. But she won't win. IMO the Oscar is between Margot Robbie and Lily Gladstone with Gladstone FTW.

Anatomy of a Fall won't win, because it's not eligible. It was not chosen as the official submission by France.

Giamatti is a nepo baby. His father was the president of Yale. He got in to both the undergrad and school of drama that way (as did his brother.)

Yes, and as we know all Yale drama school grads have wildly successful, award-winning careers.

And in Hollywood they only knew his father, if at all, as the MLB Commissioner. If he’d been signed by the Dodgers you might have a point. But he wasn’t, and you don’t.

Bart Giamatti, Paul’s father, is the MLB Commissioner who banned Pete Rose from baseball for life and shortly thereafter he died of a heart attack.

FUN FACT:

The grammar school I attended for six years in Massachusetts was named after Paul Giamatti’s great-great-grandmother, Mary E. Walton.

Just watched The Color Purple. Danielle Brooks may as well stay home. No one's giving that performance an Oscar.

Fun for thee, not for me.

R262: You don’t say.

The Academy doesn’t allow us to to say “winner” any more. You have to say “people the Oscar will go to.”

And the winner is... was changed to "The Oscar goes to..." by Alan Carr during his disastrous one year producing the show and it stuck.

Giamatti sounds like a really cool guy. I listened to him on Marc Maron’s podcast.

He’s great in everything, he’s done the work and he’s never enjoyed the big accolades. Oscar voters love a feel-good story, and he could be it.

Is Robbie even a definite nominee? Nothing about her performance would suggest she deserves even to be nominated over Stone, Benning, Gladstone, Mulligan, Huller or even Natalie Portman and Greta Lee (Past Lives)

Robbie will be nominated as producer of Barbie, so that will have to suffice.

R259 doesn't know SHIT.

"That's why the Oscars has the foreign f ilm category. Zone of interest or Anatomy of a Fall will probably win as best foreign film."

Anatomy was not submitted by France. That's basic awards season knowledge, Einstein.

That would be breaking news, R282, if it hadn't already been said twice in this thread.

OP, Ruffalo is one underrated actor. I'd love it if he won.

I'm getting my big ol' titties oiled up so I can display 'em for the Oscars!

Goddammit, enough already! Give Annette Bening the Oscar!! She was robbed out of an Oscar for The Grifters and most notably American Beauty. She's running out of time. Sorry, Lily Gladstone, but it's Annette's time--and her turn.

And then soon thereafter, it's Glenn Close's time for an Oscar--long overdue.

And then Lily Gladstone can be considered.

Oh good lord, I expected a whole lot more gossip about DaVine Joy Randolph and her larger than life TITS! Jesus Christ, you could see her nipples as she continued falling out of her dress.

That dress was tacky and entirely inappropriate. Put your TITS away, big mama.

R286 this will be Gladstone's only 'turn' and she will join a long list of actors who got an Oscar on their first and only nomination: Louise Fletcher, Adrien Brody, Cher, David Niven, Brie Larsen, Michelle Yeoh, Gwenyth Paltrow, Roberto Benigni, Rami Malek, Ernest Borgnine, Cliff Robertson, Lee Marvin, Halle Berry, Yul Brynner, Art Carney, F. Murray Abraham, Michael Douglas, Jeremy Irons, Jean Dujardin, Brendan Fraser . . . . . . . . . . .

(^.^) sorry Cher 1984 nominee SILKWOOD

This is what the Academy loves!!!“

Killers of the Flower Moon”'s Lily Gladstone Makes History and Delivers Golden Globes Speech in Blackfeet Language

I've been saying since a year ago, when the 2023 movies and casts were first announced, that Cillian Murphy would won the BA Oscar.

I've just now watched "Oppenheimer." The other day I watched "The Holdovers." I am not bothering with "Maestro."

"Oppenheimer" is a spectacularly beautiful movie. I mean, that Cinematography Oscar had better be awarded here.

RDJr is absolutely incredible in a role perhaps more complex even than the titular one. Indeed, every single actor is terrific (exception: IMO, Matt Damon goes a little too "Bourne Identity" in a couple scenes). Loved Gary Oldman as Harry Truman! The character of spy Klaus Fuchs (he of the "Bridge of Spies" exchange) could have been shown a bit more AS a spy, but minor quibble. Florence Pugh and Emily Blunt were very distinctive as the two main women in "Oppie's" love life.

The McCarthyism of post-war America was shown in all its hounding, harassing, and paranoid infamy.

Perhaps the most effective, because horrifying, scene was of a rally to which Oppenheimer spoke after the bombs were dropped. He decides to play the game, giving the cheering crowd the 1945 version of "USA! USA!" with "Too bad we couldn't drop the bomb on Germany!" All the while seeing the blinding bomb flashes of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in his mind's eye, the screaming, the burning, even imagining stepping into the incinerated corpse of a child.

A year ago I also predicted what I thought would be the movie's final lines: the famous "I am become Death, destroyer of worlds." That quote comes a bit earlier. But the actual final words, which also belong to Oppenheimer, are almost the same:

He asks Einstein if he remembers a previous conversation where Oppenheimer worried that a chain reaction could destroy the world. Einstein says he recalls that, and what about it? Oppenheimer replies,

"I believe we did."

Sorry, Paul Giamatti. You were poignant, lovely, funny, smart, and caring in "The Holdovers."

But the Academy Award---and BAFTA, Critics Choice, and SAG awards---is going the way of the Golden Globe to Cillian Murphy, undeniably awesome as J. Robert Oppenheimer.

Todays SAG Award nominations should help clarify the race.

Right now it doesn’t feel like Annette has any momentum.

R292, Who will present Streisand her SAG Lifetime Achievement Award?

There was nothing special in RDJ'S performance. He might just get rewarded for his career performances.

Annette Bening was thinking, "If only Hillary Swank doesn't make a movie this year."

And then wouldn't ya know it...Lily Gladstone comes along.

Yes to everything R291

Oppenheimer was a "monumental cinematic statement"... that's both a recommendation and a complaint. It was skillfully made, if also a bit turgid and enthusiastic about its own importance.

RDJ's performance was one of the best of his career - subtle but commanding. I just don't understand the love for Murphy, who was just always wide-eyed and vapid... to me. I never got a sense of who Oppenheimer was as a real human... just an actor staring blinklessly at the camera or at another "actor".... but that's criticism of his performance, not a prediction of what The Show Biz will do to award him.

Cillian Murphy should stick to supporting roles. He’s too bland to be a leading man. No charisma.

What R291 said

Watch "Anthropoid," r297 and r298.

I think, r297, the task for Cillian was to give life to a "still waters run deep" man of not merely science, but a theoretical science, and one not even accepted as such in the US yet, to boot. Plus, he then was assigned to THE "mum's the word" project, fighting for his security clearance, so making Oppenheimer practically a mute in social situations! Add in the natural awkwardness of the man, and Murphy had a challenge.

But IMO he succeeded brilliantly. Off-hours Oppenheimer was a randy SOB, a philanderer when it suited him. An indifferent father. A communist with a small "c." He passively accepted whatever the government brought (though he was not above hiring lawyers!), maddening his wife.

The piercing stares were Oppenheimer's restless mind trying to comprehend his new war milieu; to watch his words (brashly and fatefully not always succeeding); to fit in socially; and above all to discover the secrets of the atom beyond the theoretical.

That is to say, we the viewer not only have to suspend our disbelief; we are called upon often to "read" Cillian's face. The man Oppenheimer, as portrayed, was not himself always so insightful about others (Jean; Fuchs; Strauss).

In any case, look at the Awards contenders. Who in 2023 was better as lead than Cillian Murphy?

Too bad Sacheen Littlefeather has passed away, she could have presented Best Actress.

[quote]I've just now watched "Oppenheimer." The other day I watched "The Holdovers." I am not bothering with "Maestro."

You should watch "Maestro" for Carey Mulligan's amazing performance. She really should get the Oscar.

R301 She could have been in Killers Of The Flower Moon!

R302, do we need films made about actively courting a gay man and then what being a married beard to him is like and how heartbreaking that can be?

She does give a good performance, but her character is so poorly developed.

The National Board of Review believes Bradley Cooper is an icon?

“Maestro star Bradley will receive the NBR Icon Award. The Holdovers star Paul Giamatti will receive the Best Actor award, while Killers of the Flower Moon star Lily will be honored for Best Actress“

They've only given out an Icon Award two other times—in 2020 to Chadwick Boseman, and in 2019, jointly, to Martin Scorsese, Robert De Niro, and Al Pacino.

Yes, r1. 100%.

Anne Hathaway looks amazing. What work has she had done besides Ozempic?

With pic

Jessica also looks 🔥

Actors nominate actors and SAG snubbed "Saltburn", DiCaprio, "May/December", "The Color Purple" and "Poor Things".

The Color Purple and Poor Things were not snubbed.

SAG was the one industry group that seemed to like The Color Purple, nominating it for Brooks and Ensemble.

Since this seems to be our general awards season thread, the PGA nominations were announced: American Fiction, Anatomy of a Fall, Barbie, The Holdovers, Killers of the Flower Moon, Maestro, Oppenheimer, Past Lives, Poor Things and The Zone of Interest.

That's the final nail in the coffin for The Color Purple, especially since it's a relatively populist group and they still voted for two foreign language international films over it. Even with Maestro flopping, I can't see any movie breaking through that list of ten at the Oscars.

The 10 Best Picture nominations will include Barbie, Oppenheimer, Color Purple, Rustin, Maestro, Air, Holdovers, Poor Things, Anatomy of a Fall and Zone of Interest.

The Academy really should disallow nominations for people who've already won two competitive awards.

Winning one Oscar proves you're talented. Winning two Oscars proves you're a legend. Winning more than two is just ridiculous, and takes up oxygen and ballot space from other actors who may be just as talented.

I really wish they'd go back to five nominees. Films are getting worse, not better. If anything, they ought to go back to the earliest days of the Oscars and limit it to three nominations. But there isn't one reason to include 10 films in any awards category.

[quote]Actors nominate actors and SAG snubbed "Saltburn", DiCaprio, "May/December", "The Color Purple" and "Poor Things".

Yes, but the SAG membership is much, much larger—and includes the AFTRA wing, who get to nominate and vote as well. So the Sag nominees are not always representative of the tastes of the actor's wing of the Academy.

When Streisand accepts her SAG Lifetime Achievement Award, will she call out SAG President Fran Drescher for blabbing on “live” television that she received a call from Babs asking why she wasn’t on Jim Brolin’s health insurance?

[Quote] The Color Purple and Poor Things were not snubbed.

well, the former was certainly snubbed at the box office

Streisand’s face, tits, and ass all received a SAG Award years ago.

R320, She’s having mobility issues, so the SAG Awards will probably stage it so she doesn’t have to walk on or off stage, like they did for Mary Tyler Moore and Debbie Reynolds,

R321 In other words:

TOO. FUCKING. OLD.

I saw The Zone of Interest today, and it hands down deserves to win Best Sound. It had the most effective and haunting sound design in a movie I think I may have ever experienced. It might have a hard time even getting nominated in that category, though, as it's a very formally alienating film. After seeing it, I'm even more surprised it got a PGA nomination.

That a film can be simultaneously so calm and sooo horrifying is really something. It's quite an achievement.

And what a pair of performances from Sandra Huller this year.

No thread for the Critic's Choice awards?

I scrolled....and scrolled

It made the shortlist for the Achievement in Sound Oscar.

R324, we've been discussing it. Here's the link.

when do the nominations come out?

January 23, R327. A week from Tuesday.

I think Emma Stone will win Best Actress.

Good to know, R325. Fingers crossed!

I told you that it would be a horse race for Best Actor between Cillian and Paul. I also called Michelle Yeoh winning last year, while everyone else was confident that Cate would win. And I called it for Jamie Lee Curtis and EEAAO, while everybody else said I was crazy. I guess I have the ability to sense the mood of Hollywood better than most.

Please say Giamatti when referring to him, just "Paul" is reserved for Paul Mescal here on DL, thanks to that one rabid fan of his having trained us like Pavlov's dogs over this past year or so.

R332, thankfully our nutty Mescal troll has designated him as Our Dear Paul, so we are free to call any other Pauls by their given name without any confusion.

[quote] I told you that it would be a horse race for Best Actor between Cillian and Paul. I also called Michelle Yeoh winning last year, while everyone else was confident that Cate would win. And I called it for Jamie Lee Curtis and EEAAO, while everybody else said I was crazy. I guess I have my head up my own ass better than most.

Fixed that for you.

It is certainly not a blockbuster, whether aesthetically of financially, but the poster for The Zone of Interest is terrific.

Oops, wrong thread! I meant to post it to this one, where the discussion on movie posters is taking place.

I suspect Blunt might actually be snubbbed in favor of Rachel McAdams.

That’s not a snub!

Blunt was the weak link in Oppenheimer with more screen time than Florence Pugh. The only reason she’s even being considered for a nomination amongst stronger actresses like Foster, Randolph, Foy, McAdams, Huller, and Moore is having a vagina in the Oppenheimer awards tidal wave.

I thought Emily Blunt did a fantastic job. I didn't consider her weak at all. Her character was written a particular way and she did her job, wonderfully well.

McAdmas did nothing special in Margaret. It would be an even worse nomination than the one she got for Spotlight. Whoever her publicist is, I hope she gets a gigantic bonus.

It's been clear for months: Murphy, Randolph, RDJ and Gladstone the only possible 'upset' being Annette Benning for Nyad.

Jamie Lee Curtis will win over Randolph. She's Hollywood Royalty!

Well, it appears Murphy is in a horse race with Giamatti now. The ladies are a lock though.

R344, I’m still in it.

[QUOTE] The ladies are a lock though.

Umm, no they’re not. Didn’t you see Emma Stone win alongside Giamatti?

Why start a thread for "pure guesses"?

I'll tell you what's gonna happen: Giamatti, Stone, RDJ, and Randolph. I would be $1000 on it.

I do not want Paul Giamatti to win. I do not. Yes he's a good actor. On the Hammy side. Easily gets on your nerves. But I don't mind him on cable. So if he's on HBO or Showtime or AMC or WTF ever it's fine. But not for an Oscar. No. He is small screen all the way. I don't know why the fucking movie is even getting all this hype. Someone must owe someone a lot. There's nothing special about a fucking holiday movie like this. In fact I thought I'd already seen something exactly like this a few years ago. It's a Lifetime movie. Have we abandoned all pretense of having standards? Really?

[quote] Umm, no they’re not. Didn’t you see Emma Stone win alongside Giamatti?

No one cares about the Critics Choice Awards.

Giamatti is this generation's Richard Dreyfus. Cute, mannered, annoying. His performance was "serviceable" to me in a movie that seemed like a TV movie from the 70s. I don't think all these qualities will make him The Industry's choice for a best actor oscar.

R350 = Helen Keller.

In no universe is Paul Giamatti cute.

[QUOTE] No one cares about the Critics Choice Awards.

Yes, they do. The Critic’s Choice Awards usually rubber-stamp supposed “frontrunner” (Lily Gladstone and Cillian Murphy). That did not happen this year. So, yes, this does matter.

Brendan Fraser won the Critics Choice last year and then went on to win the Oscar (and SAG). So, you’re wrong. They actually do have an effect.

Only handsome men should win Oscars!

Will the Academy really give Emma Stone a second Oscar over the first Native American? Emma Stone???

No, r354, the Academy will not. This opportunity might never come its way again.

[quote] Yes, they do. The Critic’s Choice Awards usually rubber-stamp supposed “frontrunner” (Lily Gladstone and Cillian Murphy). That did not happen this year. So, yes, this does matter. Brendan Fraser won the Critics Choice last year and then went on to win the Oscar (and SAG). So, you’re wrong. They actually do have an effect.

No, they actually don't. Being a copycat award is not the same as being influential. Duh.

I never said they were an influential awards body. What I’m saying is that the Critics Choice awards lead acting winners of Emma Stone and Paul Giamatti - when the group has consistently proven in the past that they are all too thirsty to rubberstamp/copycat steamrollers - is, in itself, instructive. It indicates that the supposedly locked “frontrunners” (Lily Gladstone and Cillian Murphy) are not necessarily runaway fait acompli winners.

Does that clear things up?

THe film industry makes nice to the critics by showing up all dressed in their finest, but it's more like an ass kissing session than an influencing event.

[quote] I never said they were an influential awards body.

Actually, yes you did, and then you backtracked.

The real question is, who will get slugged onstage this year?

Da'vine Joy Randolph looks like Best Supporting Actress winner. Lily Gladstone will fight Emma Stone for Best Actress, and while everyone is very fond of Carey Mulligan and Annette Bening, they will not be competition for Best Actress. Julianne Moore will round out the five . Best Actor will be Cillian Murphy because of Christopher Nolan. There's an outside chance Paul Giamatti could upset things but I doubt it. Bradley Cooper, Jeffrey Wright and Coleman Domingo will be nominees. Robert Downey, Jr. will get Best Supporting Actor. Ironclad guarantee.

Well, your ironclad guarantee is already leaking since Julianne Moore isn't up for Best Actress. Her role is considered supporting.

There will be an upset in Supporting Male.

R363, Which would have RDJ return to using.

Which isn't going to happen R363

I’ve yet to watch Killers of the Flower Moon, which is streaming on AppleTV now, because it looks like homework. Is it at all engaging? Lots of comments here about Gladstone’s inert performance and Leo’s simple-minded character at the center, which doesn’t appeal.

R366, I’ve had enough of Martin Scorsese’s 3+ hour vanity projects.

KOTFM is an excellent movie and definitely worth watching. Lily is fine, but does not deserve an Oscar. Leo is good but the part he plays is of simple, cruel man.

I preferred the actress who plays Lily’s sister in KOTFM, Anna. I thought she was fantastic and stole the few scenes she was in.

ETA: I just saw that she (Cara Jade Myers) made the BAFTA longlist for Best Supporting Actress.

OK. If you were nominating five actresses for Best Actress who would it be? Lily Gladstone, yes. Carey Mulligan, yes. Annette Bening, yes. Emma Stone, yes. IMO there was no lead actress in the musical Color Purple, and if Natalie Portman gets nominated for May/December, I'll slit my wrists. I cannot stand her. Ugh. So who'd be the 5th Best Actress nominee? Anyone? Anyone?

Sandra Huller is definitely getting nominated for Best Actress. The only question is, does she pull off the double nomination and get in for Supporting Actress as well?

How the hell is Julianne Moore supporting? As ridiculous as The Golden Globes nominating it as a comedy.

Because it's not her story, it's Portman's. Yes, she certainly figures into it in an important way, but she's not the lead, Portman is.

They were CO-LEADS.

No, they are not, R374.

R374 Quit butchering the language, you savage.

There’s no such thing as a shared lead role. It defies the logic and the definition of the lead role to consider it split among multiple people. There’s only one lead role.

You can’t split a lead role any more than you can pluralize The Lone Ranger.

R374, Yes, like Bette Davis and Anne Baxter were co-leads in “All About Eve”.

What are you on about? It's not uncommon for two actors to be both nominated for "lead" best actor from the same movie. In 1935 Clark Gable, Charles Laughton and Franchot Tone were all three nominated for best actor for Mutiny on the Bounty.

Yes, R378, and that has nothing bb do to with the May December situation in which Natalie Portman is clearly the lead.

Next, why don’t you try to tell us that it’s the same as Thelma & Louise.

[quote]There’s no such thing as a shared lead role.

Uh huh.

R379 Funny how the Oscars make many so huffy.

When I watched May/December I was drawn to watch Moore... what really was going on with her character was the continual subtext. And then the twist at the end, where she had apparently completely manipulated Portman, was the dramatic climax. I certainly can argue that the two were both "leads"...

Come on. There's gotta be someone besides Natalie Portman. Does anyone think Huller has enough juice to get a nomination?

Hüller has a much better chance of a lead nomination than Natalie Portman. I actually consider her almost a lock at this point. The big question is will be also get a supporting nomination for “The Zone of Interest.”

R381, you were drawn to Moore’s performance in the film, therefore she qualifies as having given a leading role? Okay, hon…

*will she

Don't forget F. Murray Abraham and Tom Hulce, both nominated in Lead Actor for AMADEUS.

Listing examples of films that have received two lead nominations does not prove anything. May December had one lead performance - Natalie Portman’s.

Is your next post going to be “Don’t forget Rock Hudson and James Deannin GIANT!” ?

Sandra Huller "Anatomy of a Fall" Greta Lee "Past Lives" or Margot Robbie (I hope not)

R370 Sandra Huller "Anatomy of a Fall" Greta Lee "Past Lives" or Margot Robbie (I hope not)

Giamatti Stone RDJ Randolph*

* The typical token black supporting actress winner to avoid another Oscarsowhite debacle.

Most of the double lead nominations happened before they started playing the category fraud game. For instance, how the fuck is Rooney Mara supporting in Carol?

R390 and Al Pacino was nominated for supporting actor even though he was in twice as many scenes as Brando in the Godfather and Ethan Hawk was also relegated to supporting actor in Training Day even though he easily had as many scenes if not more than lead Denzel Washington.

Oscar nominations will be announced on "GMA," Tuesday, 1/23.

Thelma and Louise?

Pacino was furious that he was placed in Supporting for The Godfather.

Brando had 40 minutes of screen time out of 175 minutes of The Godfather. Keaton, Caan and Duval had more dialog than Brando who doesn't say much and is rarely ambulatory.

Well, R376, I don't think that's necessarily true. Look at something like Thelma and Louise. It was their story, they were co-leads.

Terms of Endearment- two intertwining stories, but both were leads. We saw Aurora's story unfolding the same as we saw her daughter's story unfold, and they came together several times and merged stories.

With May/December, it's Portman's story and that's what the film is about- an actress who has to immerse herself in the world of the woman she's been hired to portray. It's not Julianne Moore's story, she helps facilitate the story, but it's not about her.

[quote] Don't forget F. Murray Abraham and Tom Hulce, both nominated in Lead Actor for AMADEUS.

I always felt Salieri was a supporting character in Amadeus, and I wish they would have put Abraham in that category. I think he would have beaten Dr. Haing S. Ngor (talk about a waste of an Oscar) and perhaps Tom Hulce might have won lead.

R391 Actually, Ethan Hawke is the lead and Denzel, supporting.

Lily Gladstone will feast at her Oscars table with fry bread and her firewater Night Train wine.

To R77, and she's really FAT!! She needs to stop wearing dresses that show off her fat titties that are always crooked. Fix those fat titties, please wear a shawl. She has got casinos& meth, she looks slow!!

That was a very methy post^^

OP, she looked terrible in that green outfit, and you know it!! The green outfit was gorgeous, The Indian needed sleeves on her dress to hide her fat wavy arms& a shawl, or really big XXL bolero jacket to cover up those flabby crooked tits!!

I haven't done METH since 1993, the new stuff would kill me!! I'm 62 years old, not 32 yrs old.

Then stop writing like you’re still on it. TIA

[quote] Listing examples of films that have received two lead nominations does not prove anything. May December had one lead performance - Natalie Portman’s...Is your next post going to be “Don’t forget Rock Hudson and James Deannin GIANT!” ?

Who died and left you Queen Of Hollywood?

"I always felt Salieri was a supporting character in Amadeus".

That's insane. He's the narrator, we arrive at the story and leave at the end through his eyes. It's his narrative arc, his scheming drives the plot. If you trimmed out a few minutes of Mozart alone with his wife or father, Mozart would easily be supporting.

[quote] That's insane.

Hyperbole much?

I saw "Poor Things" yesterday. It's all over the place! It's visually interesting, but the director has a sketchy style with his narrative guidance. Stone, I believe, is being rewarded more for her courage (she often full-frontal) than her actual performance. It's very one-note for about 2/3 of the movie. By the time she "matures" in the latter part of the film, she changes the note and delivers a different performance.

Like "Oppenheimer" and "Maestro", the script is so damn weak and all over the place. What happened to quality screenwriters in Hollywood? Even "American Fiction" is bogged down with multiple family sub-plots that drag down the pace of its much stronger central plot. "The Holdover" is the only film I've seen with actual character development and well-constructed narrative development.

Re: "Poor Things", I don't think the older generation Academy voters will be behind it. I saw it with a bunch of older white women (and their half-asleep husbands) at an upper middle class suburban theater. They were all appalled by it. It was not what they were expecting. Many groans from the audience throughout the film.

Does Emma have a bush in her full frontal scenes or is she bald?

bush and flat boobies

Ok. I wonder if she wore a merkin.

Stone doesn't have a hint of tits.

Gladstone lost a ton of momentum with no BAFTA nomination. I think Stone will pull off her second Oscar win despite the outrageousness of PT. The older, white male contingent is dwindling down in the Academy now, with its diverse, younger vote now leading the vote tally. They’ll vote for Stones ballsy performance over Gladstones sick in bed half the film shit.

It’s a shame. Sandra Hüller is leagues above both of them with her ‘Anatomy of a Fall’ performance.

Emma should not win. I even support Lily over her. Hell, I support Margot Robbie over her! She was less one-note as a doll in ‘Barbie’.

[quote] There’s no such thing as a shared lead role.

R376 The Turning Point. Shirley MacLaine and Anne Bancroft. The Children’s Hour. Audrey Hepburn and Shirley MacLaine.

The Old Maid (1939). Charlotte and Delia (Bette Davis, Miriam Hopkins) are both lead roles.

The Odd Couple - Oscar and Felix.

The 1935. Mutiny on the Bounty is an anomaly—it was before there were Supporting categories — a few of the more obscure earlier nominees would have been classified as Supporting had the occurred later (Betty Compson in The Barker, for example6. In fact, one account I’ve read says that Franchot Tone was felt to have been disadvantaged by the size of his role in comparison to Gable and Laughton and was part of the reason the Academy established the Supporting categories the next year. Gable and Laughton had recently won, so it seems doubtful anyone was going to beat McLaglen’s character lead (Ford won Director for The Informer, so my guess is the movie was second place—it’s a much better movie than Mutiny, which is wonderful fun in its own way and Laughton is at his best), but Tone could easily have won a Supporting role—leading man (who survived being married to Joan Crawford) taking a lesser role. It wouldn’t have been category fraud, but appropriate placement given the central conflict of the movie.

I saw American Fiction today and dear god it was probably one of the top 3 movies of the year. It was excellent. Perfect. Acting, writing, casting, Perfection. I loved it. I see Oscar nominations for the movie the cast and the writing. Definitely.

Best Actor: Paul Giamatti *Cillian Murphy is not the star of 'Oppenheimer'. Nolan is. Best Actress: Margot Robbie *Gladstone missed BAFTA and Stone's film is divisive (and repulsive) to some voters. The mic drop surprise winner will be Robbie for "saving the film industry". Best Supporting Actor: Robert Downey Jr. *Willem Dafoe should win here, but many 'Oppenheimer' fans thought Downey Jr. delivered the gravitas. I preferred Gary Oldman and Matt Damon. Best Supporting Actress: Da'Vine Joy Randolph *No competition. No one saw 'Nyad' and Emily Blunt is an undeserved coattail nomination for 'Oppenheimer'. Cruz already won.

Am I the only one who thinks "Nyad" was an even more patent Oscar grab than "Maestro"?

Nothing is a more patent Oscar grab than Maestro. Nyad isn't very good, but Bening doesn't try to soften the character to make it a more palatable, inspirational sports movie. Nyad lays it on thick on multiple occasions, but it doesn't have the "please love me, adore me, and most of all, respect and validate me" quality that seeps through every frame of Maestro.

The more I think about that movie, the more I hate it.

[quote] There’s no such thing as a shared lead role...[R376] The Turning Point. Shirley MacLaine and Anne Bancroft. The Children’s Hour. Audrey Hepburn and Shirley MacLaine.

The ultimate shared leads.

I don't want Margo Robbie to win. Yes she worked hard and carried the movie, but there was nothing nuanced or complex about her movie. It's a movie all 12 yr old girls should watch. And maybe the boys too. But it is only worth a best picture nomination and something for set design?

R424 she’s not going to. I think everyone knows it’s between Lily and Emma at this point.

[Quote]There’s no such thing as a shared lead role.

Sarandon and Davis both have lead roles in Thelma and Louise as do Davis and Baxter in All About Eve

[quote] Sarandon and Davis both have lead roles in Thelma and Louise

Thanks, R426. It hadn't sunk in the six other times this has been mentioned, but I'm sure yours did the trick.

The only thing more annoying than posters who don't read the thread and post things already posted... are the posts that excoriate those who post things already posted.

How meta.

R427 for lazy readers who don't want to wade thru 400 posts it did.

You mean like you?

Newman and Redford The Sting and as Butch and Sundance and O'Toole and Burton in Beckett (1964)

Burt Lancaster and Montgomery Clift From Here to Eternity (1953)

Lee Marvin and Toshiro Mifune Hell in the Pacific (1968)

[quote] (Ford won Director for The Informer, so my guess is the movie was second place—it’s a much better movie than Mutiny, which is wonderful fun in its own way and Laughton is at his best)

Well I guess that’s your opinion, even if it’s stated as a fact. I find The Informer very dated and also solemn, but Mutiny still a great adventure.

There are so many shared leads in films I hope we can put that stupid idea to rest. Many Neil Simon films have shared leads, not just The Odd Couple but Barefoot In The Park, The Prisoner Of Second Avenue, The Sunshine Boys, The Goodbye Girl, etc.

Tracy-Hepburn movies: Adam’s Rib, Pat And Mike, Woman of the Year, etc. Guess Who’s Coming To Dinner has three leads, Tracy, Hepburn, and Poitier. Poitier and Elizabeth Hartman are the two leads of A Patch Of Blue. Cary Grant and Rosalind Russell in His Girl Friday. Redford and Hoffman in All he President’s Men. Connery and Caine in The Man Who Would Be King.

[Quote] Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner has three leads, Tracy, Hepburn, and Poitier.

Excuse me you mean 4, don't you?

Katharine Houghton today.

RDJ will not win. He has Glenn Close syndrome.

R438, He really thinks he’s going to win.

RDJ will never, never, never, never win an Academy Award. It's not about talent. It's about message. He's too much of a screwball.

RDJ will win. Some people on here don’t like him so they don’t want him to win.

R440, They gave one to Jared Leto, speaking of screwballs.

R441, the people who claim he's going to lose are just delusional. There's no comparison between him and Glenn Close in The Wife, a movie that barely anyone saw and no one really liked that much.

Downey is in the overwhelming favorite for Best Picture, which made nearly a billion dollars. He's well-liked and well-connected in Hollywood, has made the studios a ton of money, and has a feel good comeback narrative. Claiming he's going to lose is either lunacy or wishful thinking.

RDJ's name is already engraved.

I am looking forward to seeing the tears here on the DL when RDJ loses.

I like RDJ. I just don't think he'll win the Oscar.

r446 Same, except I dislike RDJ.

I'm starting to think Rosamund Pike might slip in there as a nominee. She won't win, because that that award us the biggest lock of the night, but I hope she gets a nomination.

R448, Some staid Academy members might be wary of Da'Vine Joy Randolph showing up with her tits hanging out.

Will Paul Mescal pull off a second Oscar nom?

For what? He was borderline awful in everything he did this year.

I hope not, R450. I thought he was the weakest of the four actors in All of Us Strangers. I didn’t think he was bad, but I don’t see why anyone would vote for him in Supporting Actor over Jamie Bell.

I am with R452. He was by far the weakest of the four actors in AOUS. But, to his credit, he had the most underwritten role in the film and it is not he had to much to do dramatically. I know he is the flavor of the month (year?) but enough is enough.

Christoper Nolan for Director should be a lock. There's no question about it. Not sure about the others.

R438 and r440,

I'll be back on this thread in March. Will you?

RDJs had a long career with his first credit in 1983s Baby It's You, and many of his films Captain America, Avengers, Iron Man and Oppenheimer have made of ton of money. Charles Melton will have to be satisfied with his nomination; it's RDJ for the win!

R436 No. Poitier had a lot more screen time.

R457 and Potier had more screen time than Tracy, but I think it's fair to say that Houghton was one of 4 leading characters involved in the central conflict and interacting with all the other characters.

R453, I actually thought he was stronger than charisma-free Andrew Scott. Mescal was so haunting. He and Claire Foy were excellent.

I found DaVine Joy Randolph‘s accent in The Holdovers unbelievably distracting regardless of how accurate it supposedly was.

R460, nothing was more annoying than Julianne Moore’s lisp in ‘May December’.

Boston accents are always a buzzkill to eardrumsz

I didn’t know they chose acting Oscar winners. Is that in case the actual winner dies or can no longer perform their duties?

[quote] nothing was more annoying than Julianne Moore’s lisp in ‘May December’.

Especially considering it didn't show up until 2/3 of the way through the movie.

R459, I agree. Our Dear Paul was fantastic.

Paul Mescal WILL win Best Actor next year for 'Gladiator 2'. Mark my words.

You dear Paul is a crashing bore.

8 more hours

3 more hours.

Putting this here for The Looney Lovers of Timothee and Jacob.

OSCAR NOMINATIONS:

"Wonka" = 0. // "Saltburn" = 0.

BAFTA NOMINATIONS:

"Wonka" = 1 = Outstanding BRITISH Film. // "Saltburn" = 5 = OBF; Leading Actor (Barry Keoghan); Supporting Actor (Jacob Elordi); Rising Star (Jacob Elordi); Original Score.

SAG NOMINATIONS:

"Wonka" = 0. // "Saltburn" = 0.

All told, of the above 3 awarding entities, "Oppenheimer" nominations = 30.

No Robbie No Leo Viva Annette and Jodie

OSCAR Nominations 2024 96th Academy Awards (will be presented March 10 at the Dolby Theatre in Hollywood)

Best picture

“American Fiction”

“Anatomy of a Fall”

“Barbie”

“The Holdovers”

“Killers of the Flower Moon”

“Maestro”

“Oppenheimer”

“Past Lives”

“Poor Things”

“The Zone of Interest”

Actor in a leading role

Bradley Cooper (“Maestro”)

Colman Domingo (“Rustin”)

Paul Giamatti (“The Holdovers”)

Cillian Murphy (“Oppenheimer”)

Jeffrey Wright (“American Fiction”)

Actress in a leading role

Annette Bening (“Nyad”)

Lily Gladstone (“Killers of the Flower Moon”)

Sandra Hüller (“Anatomy of a Fall”)

Carey Mulligan (“Maestro”)

Emma Stone (“Poor Things”)

Actor in a supporting role

Sterling K. Brown (“American Fiction”)

Robert De Niro (“Killers of the Flower Moon”)

Robert Downey Jr. (“Oppenheimer”)

Ryan Gosling (“Barbie”)

Mark Ruffalo (“Poor Things”)

Actress in a supporting role

Emily Blunt (“Oppenheimer”)

Danielle Brooks (“The Color Purple”)

America Ferrera (“Barbie”)

Jodie Foster (“Nyad”)

Da’Vine Joy Randolph (“The Holdovers”)

Best director

Jonathan Glazer (“The Zone of Interest”)

Yorgos Lanthimos (“Poor Things”)

Christopher Nolan (“Oppenheimer”)

Martin Scorsese (“Killers of the Flower Moon”)

Justine Triet (“Anatomy of a Fall”)

Costume design

“Barbie”

“Killers of the Flower Moon”

“Napoleon”

“Oppenheimer”

“Poor Things”

Makeup and hairstyling

“Golda”

“Maestro”

“Oppenheimer”

“Poor Things”

“Society of the Snow”

Live-action short film

“The After”

“Invincible”

“Knight of Fortune”

“Red, White and Blue”

“The Wonderful Story of Henry Sugar”

Animated short film

“Letter to a Pig”

“Ninety-Five Senses”

“Our Uniform”

“Pachyderme”

“War Is Over! Inspired by the Music of John & Yoko”

Writing (Adapted screenplay)

“American Fiction” — Cord Jefferson

“Barbie” — Greta Gerwig, Noah Baumbach

“Oppenheimer” — Christopher Nolan

“Poor Things” — Tony McNamara

“The Zone of Interest” — Jonathan Glazer

Writing (Original screenplay)

“Anatomy of a Fall” — Justin Triet, Arthur Harari

“The Holdovers” — David Hemingson

“Maestro” — Bradley Cooper, Josh Singer

“May December” — Samy Burch, Alex Mechanik

“Past Lives” — Celine Song

Music (original song)

“The Fire Inside” from “Flamin’ Hot”

“I’m Just Ken” from “Barbie”

“It Never Went Away” from “American Symphony”

“Wahzhazhe (A Song For My People)” from “Killers of the Flower Moon”

“What Was I Made For?” from “Barbie”

Music (original score)

“American Fiction”

“Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny”

“Killers of the Flower Moon”

“Oppenheimer”

“Poor Things”

Documentary feature

“Bobi Wine: The People’s President”

“The Eternal Memory”

“Four Daughters”

“To Kill a Tiger”

“20 Days in Mariupol”

Documentary short subject

“The ABCs of Book Banning”

“The Barber of Little Rock”

“Island in Between”

“The Last Repair Shop”

“Nǎi Nai & Wài Pó”

International feature

“Io Capitano,” Italy

“Perfect Days,” Japan

“Society of the Snow,” Spain

“The Teachers’ Lounge,” Germany

“The Zone of Interest,” United Kingdom

Animated feature film

“The Boy and the Heron”

“Elemental”

“Nimona”

“Robot Dreams”

“Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse”

Production design

“Barbie”

“Killers of the Flower Moon”

“Napoleon”

“Oppenheimer”

“Poor Things”

Film editing

“Anatomy of a Fall”

“The Holdovers”

“Killers of the Flower Moon”

“Oppenheimer”

“Poor Things”

Sound

“The Creator”

“Maestro”

“Mission: Impossible – Dead Reckoning Part One”

“Oppenheimer”

“The Zone of Interest”

Visual effects

“The Creator”

“Godzilla Minus One”

“Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3”

“Mission: Impossible – Dead Reckoning Part One”

“Napoleon”

Cinematography

“El Conde”

“Killers of the Flower Moon”

“Maestro”

“Oppenheimer”

“Poor Things”

R458 I'm reasonably sure that were she to have been Oscar-nominated, it would have been in the supporting category. Hepburn and Tracy were nominated for lead actor/actress, and had Poitier been nominated, it would have been as a lead, also.

I'm gonna go out on a limb. Oppenheimer for Best Picture and Nolan as Best Director. Robert Downey, Jr. Best Supporting, Danielle Brooks Best Supporting, Cillian Murphy for Oppenheimer; (possible upset by Jeffrey Wright.) I don't think Paul Giamatti will be a factor.

R473 here. I think Carey Mulligan may knock Lily Gladstone out of the box and win Best Actress. I am praying Emma Stone does not win.

R472 supporting actress can range from 5 minutes (Beatrice Straight "Network") to 1h5m (Tatam O'Neal "Paper Moon") but it doesn't mean that it's not a leading role. i.e. Pacino has much more screen time than Brando but was nominated for Supporting Actor.

[Quote] IMO the Oscar is between Margot Robbie and Lily Gladstone with Gladstone FTW.

What a difference a day makes! Robbie was never a front runner and now she's out of the race

Ryan Gosling is upset that Margot and Greta were snubbed.

Nolan will get his two as Best Director & Picture but adapted screenplay is already engraved with Gerwig's name. They will reward her.

Well, I’m upset that Ryan Gosling was nominated R477

R479, The Academy members are well aware that the show needs help in the ratings and they feel Ryan would attract viewers.

The big question is, will Ryan and Eva find someone to sit with their kids so they can attend the Oscars together?

[quote]The big question is, will Ryan and Eva find someone to sit with their kids so they can attend the Oscars together?

No the big question is, will Ryan perform "I'm Just Ken". When Justin Timberlake was nominated for "Can't Stop The Feeling" and opened the show he acknowledged fellow nominee Ryan who was in the front row. They started together as kids. It should have been planned that Justin point to Ryan who would join him on stage to dance. It would have been a cool moment and the highlight of the show. However it seems even though Ryan was nominated for a musical singing and dancing, he seems to have a huge stick up his ass about it.

R482, in which life did you think Justin Timberlake, with his notorious ego would share his big Oscar show production number with Ryan Gosling?

If I were the Producer I would have told him to at least offer it to Ryan or he will relegated to the pee break middle of the show.

Just because two actors are nominated in the "Leading Role" category doesn't mean they're both actually THE LEAD PERFORMANCE in the movie. F. Murray Abraham and Tom Hulce may have both been nominated for Leading Role, but anyone who's seen that movie knows Abraham's Salieri was easily the main character and lead performance of the film.

The Academy fucks with categories all the time. Remember when Paramount and Redford stuck Timothy Hutton in as "Supporting Actor" so he'd stand a chance at winning that year?

We've all moved on, R485. Let it go.

R475 I don't know why this means that much to you. I guess we just disagree.

If I were a voter, I would renominate Margot and Greta and rescind America Ferrera's nomination.

If you were a voter, we'd all laugh you out of the Academy.

The average age of an Academy member is 63.

[quote]If I were a voter, I would renominate Margot and Greta and rescind America Ferrera's nomination.

ANTI AMERICA!

Is everything on line now? How does it work? Because if they have paper ballots they could do a write in for Margo and Greta.

Write-in votes haven't been allowed for nearly ninety years. It's not happening.

The Academy fucks with categories all the time. Remember when Paramount and Redford stuck Timothy Hutton in as "Supporting Actor" so he'd stand a chance at winning that year?

Which to see: Anatomy of a Fall or The Zone of Interest?

"Zone of Interest." I didn't care for the ending of "Anatomy of a Fall."

R494 you’ve disprove your own argument —a studio and a director do not = The Acsdemy. Not by a long shot.

America is gaining momentum. People want to hear her give another “speech” at the Oscars..

America's very long winded. Very long winded. I cannot stand her. And it's a shame because I used to like her.

[quote] America is gaining momentum.

No she isn't.

If America or Ryan Gosling win an Oscar I will cease to watch the remainder of the telecast.

If American wins, she will be the first person of Honduran descent to win in any Oscars category.

[quote] I told you that it would be a horse race for Best Actor between Cillian and Paul. I also called Michelle Yeoh winning last year, while everyone else was confident that Cate would win. And I called it for Jamie Lee Curtis and EEAAO, while everybody else said I was crazy. I guess I have the ability to sense the mood of Hollywood better than most.

You also have the ability to congratulate yourself excessively, so you're doubly blessed.

See? Now that's DL at it's best!!! Thank you R503

I finally watched The Holdovers today, and I don't think Paul G. is getting it over Murphy. Same shit he always does. I actually preferred the kid.

[quote]If America or Ryan Gosling win an Oscar I will cease to watch the remainder of the telecast

Thank you for stating your boundaries

[quote] I told you that it would be a horse race for Best Actor between Cillian and Paul. I also called Michelle Yeoh winning last year, while everyone else was confident that Cate would win. And I called it for Jamie Lee Curtis and EEAAO, while everybody else said I was crazy. I guess I have the ability to sense the mood of Hollywood better than most.

Oh, are we just not counting all the times you've been laughably wrong?

R594, its best, not it's.

I think there's an outside chance Huller wins best actress. The Vanity Fair podcast Little Gold Men has been saying at insider events the two movies voters are most interested in talking about are her two movies, Anatomy of a Fall and The Zone of Interest.

R508, And apparently futuristic.

I had a dream two nights ago where Carey Mulligan won the Oscar for Best Actress.

Carey Mulligan took Robbie’s spot. Bitch.

[quote]If America or Ryan Gosling win an Oscar I will cease to watch the remainder of the telecast.

Can I have the rest of your Cheetos or are you taking them with you?

Why does plain Jane Carey Mulligan have three Oscar nominations for Best Actress?

R514, Amateur!

I think Stone, Gladstone, and Huller were always locks. Mulligan, Robbie, Benning, and Natalie Portman were circling. I think maybe Benning is #5, not Mulligan.

R516, Carey Mulligan has had a lock on a Best Actress nomination since the day “Maestro” was released.

R505, Agreed.

R509, Yes, if by "outside" you mean "no way in Hell."

All of these dates and no sex?

-15/10. Go home to Momma.

Having seen "The Holdovers" last night and having zero idea who Dominic Sessa was, I have to say his omission is a huge snub. It's a three character play and he more than held his own.

Mulligan is the least exciting Best Actress nominee. ‘Maestro’ will win nothing.

I just watched Killers of the Flower Moon and didn't think Lily Gladstone's performance was that remarkable. I don't get they hype. Carey Mulligan's performance in Maestro was much stronger.

R518, you're so right on Sandra Huller. This is no judgment on her performance, but people always over-predict foreign language performances in Best Actress and put way too much value on anecdotes. Two years ago, some people were convinced Penelope Cruz was going to win because she dominated the secret Oscar ballots that the trades publish every year, but the people who participate in those are such a self-selecting group that it's never a bellwether for anything.

The type of voters who talk to Vanity Fair reporters probably aren't that representative of general Academy tastes.

Lily Gladstone's Oscar win will be the kiss of death as far as her career is concerned.

I'm glad homophobe, Fantasia Barrino, got snubbed.

R521 has not even seen “Maestro”.

Mo'Nique did it to herself, though, R524. The other two deservedly faded into obscurity, and their Oscars were a joke, but Mo'Nique had talent. She deserved that Oscar and it remains one of the all time best performances in that category.

If she wanted it, she could have gone on to play a number of high profile supporting roles (including being up for another Oscar this year because I could totally see her in the Da'Vine Joy Randolph role in The Holdovers.)

[Quote]Lily Gladstone's Oscar win will be the kiss of death as far as her career is concerned.

Even if Gallstone doesn't win I doubt she'll have much of a career beyond Killer of3h26m

The problem with Lily Gladstone is she doesn't have much range as an actor outside of playing Native American roles.

Someone needs to produce a Native American sitcom or maybe CSI: Standing Rock to employ these great Native American actors.

R520, Nor should you have known. Dominic was an actual student when cast.

R531 He looks like Napoleon Dynamite.

I saw ‘Maestro’, r526, also known as ‘Lenny Needs a Beard’. It won’t win shit. Netflix spent millions of campaign dollars on it. That’s why it’s listed. No Director nomination.

I found the Nazi dad in The Zone of Interest strangely sexy.

R533, There are numerous producers of snubbed films that would kill to have been nominated for Best Picture, Best Actor, Best Actress and Best Original Screenplay.

R532, He doesn't look anything like Napoleon Dynamite.

Now if you had suggested Richard Ramirez.....

Not Miss Bradley, R535. She wanted a Director nomination.

I'm in total agreement @348 -

My mind is boggled by the fact that it seems to be between Giamatti and Murphy. The Holdovers is an entertaining Indie film at best. PG 's performance is good, but definitely not outstanding. Everything about Oppenheimer is justifiably Oscar-worthy. Maybe it's the fact that Giamatti has worked with so many people and so well-liked.

The Holdovers is a real crowd-pleaser in the same way that CODA was, which is why Giamatti and Randolph are favorites.

I just voted on the SAG awards. For Best Actor, I had a hard time choosing, and finally went with Domingo for Rustin, although he doesn't have a chance in hell. But he was wonderful in it, and also in Color Purple in a completely different role. Ah well. My other votes were Mulligan, RDJr, Randolph and Oppenheimer for ensemble.

[quote]The Holdovers is an entertaining Indie film at best. PG 's performance is good, but definitely not outstanding.

Don't agree. The character is told to his face he is hated by everyone, and yet the audience doesn't feel the same way and roots for him. That is an achievement.

Because we're not about to side with a bunch of rich brats, r541. But since you mention this....

There is a moment, one if explored could explain your point and so much more about Mr. Hunham's social, marital, familial, and professional essential isolation; yet, though explicitly mentioned, it rings false because we are never shown what the terribly humiliating reactions of others would be if Hunham's revelation were true:

Angus tells Mr. Hunham, "You smell like fish." The teacher's matter-of-fact unembarrassed reply is, "Trimethylaminuria."

TMAU is a genetic condition I would wish only upon a Trump. One can eat practically nothing to try to not smell bad.

People recoil, move away, hold their nose, complain sotto voce, mock, etc.. In the movie, we should have had at least one classroom scene of a boy opening a window.

The director and producers had a golden opportunity to bring real attention to the plight of TMAU sufferers, maybe in another scene with Ms. Mary Lamb with Mr. Hunham's saying he's a vegetarian by necessity.

Don't ask.

[quote] The director and producers had a golden opportunity to bring real attention to the plight of TMAU sufferers, maybe in another scene with Ms. Mary Lamb with Mr. Hunham's saying he's a vegetarian by necessity.

Umm...okay.

Trenchant, r543; trenchant.

It was about all you deserved for insisting the movie be about some disease that makes you smell like fish. Yeah, what a box office bonanza that would be.

That settles it. Now that I know a key plot point from The Holdovers, I know I will never watch it. I am not a PG fan. I don't dislike him, but I wouldn't go to any effort to watch a movie because he is in it. He is a very competent character actor, but honestly he always plays the same fucking character. And none of those characters are people I'd want to know.

Alas, this is not a key plot point, R546, and that was the point R542 (justly) made. Like practically anything else on this film, it was done superficially. Not a hint of complexity, or God forbid, subtext.

R533 Cooper's A Star is Born was a piece of shit.

Lily Gladstone will fall over drunk on the Oscar stage

Are they serving firewater?

I just hope Davine Joy Randolph keeps her enormous knockers covered at the Oscars unlike at the Golden Globes. Those things are scary.

R551, The fear that she might show up with those balloons exposed could cost her votes among the more conservative Academy members.

[quote]Cooper's A Star is Born was a piece of shit.

That's 8 time Oscar nominee including Best Picture, 5 time Golden Globe nominee including Best Picture, 7 time BAFTA nominee including Best Picture, & 9 time Critic's Choice nominee including Best Picture piece of shit to you.

R553 It wasn't a piece of shit, IMO, but neither was I gripped by, as I was in the Gaynor-March and Garland-Mason versions (I loved the Streisand-Kristofferson, but I was 18 at the time, and should be forgiven for that lapse of taste). Many films get a lot of award nominations, but don't necessarily endure critically--look at such award-winners as The Greatest Show on Earth (sorry, Mr. Spielberg), Crash, Cimarron, and plenty of others.

One of the things I enjoy about awards season is the round tables and the in depth interviews. I love watching the actors and directors engage with one another, and I also love the solo interviews if the person has something to say. IMO no one is more interesting than Martin Scorsese. I watched an in depth interview with him on you tube from GQ magazine and the man is a walking encyclopedia on filmmaking. He is just a national treasure. Every time I watch one of his interviews I feel as if I have gone to a master class on the history of film. He talked about The Heiress with Olivia De Havilland and Montgomery Cllift and how it influenced the way he shot Leo and Lily in KOTFM. Then he talked about Clift's relationship with John Wayne's character in Red River and how it informed Leo's character interacting with Robert De Niro. He did a one on one interview for the BFI with Edgar Winter that was excellent, too.

The actor round tables are pretty revealing about the participants too. You can see personality quirks, and who's insecure and who's not very intelligent or articulate about their characters or their process. The Emmy roundtable with Kieran Culkins and Jeff Bridges, Pedro PAscal, etc. was very good. Saw another roundtable for films, with Andrew Scott and Mark RUffalo, etc. So interesting.

[quote] He talked about The Heiress with Olivia De Havilland and Montgomery Cllift and how it influenced the way he shot Leo and Lily in KOTFM. Then he talked about Clift's relationship with John Wayne's character in Red River and how it informed Leo's character interacting with Robert De Niro. He did a one on one interview for the BFI with Edgar Winter that was excellent, too.

What a shame he couldn't make KOTFM anywhere near as compelling as The Heiress.

R555: The Emmy roundtable with Kieran Culkins and Jeff Bridges, Pedro PAscal, etc. was very good. Saw another roundtable for films, with Andrew Scott and Mark RUffalo, etc. So interesting.

There's a moment during the roundtable discussion when Evan Peters describes the difficulty in portraying Jeffrey Dahmer. You can truly see how affected he was by it and there was a moment when you could see that the other panelists (especially Jeff Bridges and Pedro Pascal) were really concerned for his mental health.

R553 it was a shallow and pointless bore. Cooper and Gaga had no chemistry and you felt nothing for the characters. And what happened to the characters was predictable which made the whole mess seem perfunctory. The first 30 minutes were the best part of the film. At 2h16m it was way too long.

Remember when Glenn and Gaga tied at the Oscars and fought over who got to hold the award.

The Oscars, R559?

R557 yes, Evan Peters was really still going through it wasn't he. I was also impressed with how sharp Kieran Culkins is. He was sort of the group leader without being the group leader. I got a kick out of Jeff Bridges throwing Tron into the conversation.

[Quote] Many films get a lot of award nominations, but don't necessarily endure critically--look at such award-winners as The Greatest Show on Earth (sorry, Mr. Spielberg), Crash, Cimarron, and plenty of others.

and have even recent winners like The Artist, 12 Years a Slave, Spotlight, CODA, The Shape of Water and Argo endured? No one talks about them, and I suspect they are largely forgotten. The Oscars are not a guarantee of quality.

Oh shut it.

[Quote] That's 8 time Oscar nominee including Best Picture, 5 time Golden Globe nominee including Best Picture, 7 time BAFTA nominee including Best Picture, & 9 time Critic's Choice nominee including Best Picture piece of shit to you.

what about Maestro with 7 nominations! Haven't seen it but many posters think it's a piece of shit.

I've never seen The Artist, not interested. But I have watched 12 Years a Slave, Spotlight and Argo several times. All three of them were well made and well acted.Lupita's performance alone, along with Michael Fassbender is a draw for me, and argo is a feel good movie. Old school thriller with a happy ending. And very well done. Haven't seen CODA or Shape of Water. Couple people I know like Shape of Water. There's nothing wrong with a movie being well made, fine acting, and uncomplicated entertainment. Argo is made for the audiences too young to remember that hostage crisis and the problems the Carter Administration had with Iran thanks to Russia. And 12 Years a Slave was an important part of history when it was published. People forget it was a true story. So was Spotlight. And I loved Michael Keaton in Spotlight.

And,,,, R565?

Spotlight was like watching a 20/20 episode.

"Spotlight never hits the heights of passion, but capably and decently tells an important story." -TheGuardian

"This material can't help but be interesting, even compelling up to a point, but its prosaic presentation suggests that the story's full potential, encompassing deep, disturbing and enduring pain on all sides of the issue, has only begun to be touched." -The Hollywood Reporter

Word on the street is that Greta didn't get a nomination because of what went down between her, Noah and Jennifer Jason Leigh. I'm not sure I'm buying it, because no one would get nominated if Hollywood cared about shit like that. Everybody in Hollywood has lots of skeletons in their closet.

R568, why would the directors branch care about that? They’ve been together for over a decade, and various branches of the Academy have nominated her multiple times since then, including the directors.

The truth is that a blockbuster about a doll was always going to have a tough time with the directors branch, which has leaned more elitist and international in recent years. That’s the explanation, not some made-up gossip about Gerwig’s romantic life.

I'm just saying, r545, is if it's going to be mentioned at all.....As it is, it's random and pointless. I don't like random and pointless.

[Quote] considering all the interesting possible nominee's for Best Actress, does Robbie really deserve a nod?

Absolutely not!

[Quote] Does DiCaprio deserve a nomination?

No! The $40M he got for the film will suffice.

[Quote] Why does plain Jane Carey Mulligan have three Oscar nominations for Best Actress?

Because the Oscars are not a beauty contest

[Quote] Barbie will sweep the awards like Ben Hur

As it turns out you're right R2

[Quote] Praying for Charles Melton as Best Supporting Actor.

what we have here is a failure to communicate

[Quote] I predict a Paul Giamatti upset win. The Maestro backlash keeps getting louder and Cooper isn’t getting much critical love for his attention seeking performance. Murphy will be nominated again.

How can you be sure R4 David Niven, Charleton Heston, Adrian Brody, Lee Marvin, Ernest Borgnine, Art Carney, Cliff Robertson, F Murray Abraham, Rami Malek, Jean Dujardin, Roberto Benigni, Michael Douglas, Yul Brynner.

[Quote] Like her or not she’s a lock for a nomination. Barbie is going to lead the pack in nominations and she literally is the movie. There’s no way she misses. Also, while I’m personally not a fan of hers, the Academy clearly likes her and nominated her twice before

but do they really really like Robbie? Apparently not

If Annette Bening doesn't win for Nyad she will never win. I can't see her ever topping that performance.

DDJ will not win.

RDJ will never win.

He is like Glenn Close and Sigourney Weaver.

They will never win either.

[Quote] RDJ will never win.

R579 so, who do you think will win Best Supporting Actor if not Downey?

Who is DDJ? Wasn’t she some nutty frau that used to post here?

R579:

There is no "DDJ." Did you mean DJR??

RDJr will most definitely win.

R465 is, of course, wrong.

R4 is both wrong and right. Wrong, because Cillian will win the 2024 Academy Award. Right, because Cillian will be nominated again, next year in fact, for "Small Things Like These."

R583 people were certain Margot Robbie, Charles Melton, Leo DiCaprio, Fantasia, Rachel McAdams were going to be nominated and/or win and look what happen to those predictions.

Cillian Murphy and Emily Blunt have the same face.

[quote]people were certain Margot Robbie, Charles Melton, Leo DiCaprio, Fantasia, Rachel McAdams were going to be nominated and/or win and look what happen to those predictions.

They were snubbed. SNUBBED I tell ya!

The good thing about these types of predictions, r484, is that time will tell.

[Quote] Anyone but Emma Stone.

R43 Fuck You!

[Quote] RDJ will never win.

R579 Never say never

[Quote] Mulligan is the least exciting Best Actress nominee. ‘Maestro’ will win nothing.

R521 you are so right!

[Quote] Nolan will get his two as Best Director & Picture but adapted screenplay is already engraved with Gerwig's name. They will reward her.

not quite!

Lily's team got too caught up in the narrative and the historic nature of a potential win. They never overcame her big weakness: all she did was lay in bed and the performance was nothing special.

Nolan did a brilliant thing in allowing his wife to speak at all the award shows. Allowing his wife to accept all the awards undercut the Barbie female empowerment campaign as well as the claims that Oppenheimer was too macho. Once that idiot Ryan Gosling had to apologize for his own nomination, it was all over for Barbie.

I’m still pissed that America Ferrera got in solely because of her Critics Choice speech. There were ten more worthy performances than hers.

Thank God America didn't win!

Michelle Yeoh looked disappointed as hell when she read Emma Stone's name. You know she voted for either Lily or Sandra.

Justice for TAR

[Quote] Michelle Yeoh looked disappointed as hell when she read Emma Stone's name. You know she voted for either Lily or Sandra.

R596 She looked pleased.

[Quote] The Holdovers is a real crowd-pleaser in the same way that CODA was, which is why Giamatti and Randolph are favorites.

It was Murphy's from the start.

[Quote] I had a dream two nights ago where Carey Mulligan won the Oscar for Best Actress.

Proof that dreams are not prophetic.

[Quote] what about Maestro with 7 nominations! Haven't seen it but many posters think it's a piece of shit.

so did many Academy members 0/7