Heartstopper

Our holy grail

Someone who dropped joe and started tweeting passive aggressive shit nonstop about him and her equally annoying lapdog friend can shut the fuck up, sorry Kit wants to fuck joes cute little ass and not bash’s lack of ass which may be suffering from some sort of glute wasting disease. Seriously his thrusts whole topping must be disastrous

From that last thread, that Ils bitch asking people to brigade DJL over a post that doesn't involve Bash at all is insane. And the day after DJL was basically the only non-Bash page not to block his face out from the group pictures, too.

This one killed me.

R4 What is she even mad about? It’s a joke

R4 I mean just scrolling the bash page, I think max four of her posts have broken 100 likes, and none are about his careee, so I get she’s bitter

Yeah the idc energy and not the bitter cunt energy is def what I see here.

R6 it’s very triggering to bring up asses when bash has none fyi

R6 Probably mad that Kit thinks Joe has a nice ass

They are also just fucking stupid, 99% of the cast pick Joe in the breakup and they think everyone but Bash is the problem. There is no reasoning with them.

R6

[quote]No but not for this reason, I'm shocked that a fan page updates made a tweet like that

And the other one:

[quote]If Ilaria and I had made a post like this on our fanpage (and we would never have done it anyway) you would have killed us with insults

They're bitter as fuck.

I wonder if he’s in a dentist waiting room.. but that’s about the last place anyone should be eating beef crisps.

Please some lurker mention the fact that he has no ass

R12 what ass? Also I thought they were so done with joe, why do they post alerts on for his very successful fan account?

I mean this account is killing it atm

R12 Can DJL block them already..

That ils girl asking the 5 Bash stans to quote tweet DJL is so funny. They are so bitter to the point it’s so fucking hilarious lol How embarrassing.

I'm about to make a burner account just to help out this person even though they're doing pretty well on their own.

This is genuinely all pretty funny for me. Take the L. You’d think they’d be used to that given stanning bash is a perpetual L

R18 I'm confused why they are so mad, there was no instance where Bash showed any desire for Joe in public or social media, so what the fuck could they have made a post about. They are just randomly mad at people liking Joe and Kit together.

BYE.

R20 excellent no notes

R20 Thanks painisathorn, you the real mvp

Don’t always like that account but when they’re right they’re right

R19 I think they are just so keen on cancelling DJL cause they have been waiting for months to do so. But Bash girls, no luck this time.

Oh, they’re mad MAD lol so funny

Joe's hot selfie must have really triggered them

R15 Honestly, I hope DJL won’t block them so soon for my entertainment.

R25 I get ESL, but basically she just said no you to being humorless when they are being humorless... try again girl.

R25 the whole shtick Ils used to claim was she was the bash stan and her best friend the joe Stan. Clearly bash won both these two losers in the breakup. Good for him. If he ever has any projects make it to streaming, they can get his views from 4 to 5 now

Aww she’s stalking DL because we’re the ones who said she was 28. My mistake, only your loser bestie is. Hey girl, since you’re here why don’t you explain the turning on joe?

Anyway they should worry about Billy Walsh coming out and not Joe's ass

R30 Bash fans used Joe for clout, the only reason they liked him because he brought Bash attention and let him tag along to events.

R31 it’s a bash project so quietly dropping years later to no fanfare sounds likely

R30 How delusional can they be to think people on a gay forum would be interested in their personal info? Girl, we only care about your pointless obsession with that fatphobic ass-less flop.

I wish I could see the quote tweets, looks like everyone apart from that one person is quoting them from locked accounts.

Damn painisathorn you are on fire

R35 guessing they read here. This whole exchange has been very funny

R35 17 likes is about 12 more than I expected. So good on Bash

Not her actually replying to me asking why she hates joe. So funny

Lee is weighing in with the power of trans magic and gay vengeance or whatever the fuck and using the most powerful weapon in the bash arsenal, emojis

R38 Joe fans wouldn't hate Bash if he weren't a cunt. Even here nobody hated Bash to start with (other than the truly enlightened)

R40 yeah I defended him a lot on here in the initial days post breakup and said breakups were hard and no one was a bad guy, so extraordinary revisionist history from them to say we all hated him all along. Here’s what Lee has to say about why people hate him, conveniently omitting most dislike is because he was a mediocre boyfriend and a terrible ex to his hitter, smarter, funnier, sweeter, much more talented ex

R38 They're also both lying, Ils doesn't even follow Joe on TikTok anymore, those bitches barely (if at all) post about him anymore, etc. Just a heads up, the person that runs Joe Locke Italia on Instagram is also friends with this whole little group.

R41 Bash is out of the way and everyone still hate him because of everything you've said, but them clinging onto the Joe/Kit thing is super funny.

R41 I don't even hate Ben and think Alice is shit for how she wrote him and the whole idea that a confused bi/gay teenager with internalised homophobia is beyond help is harmful as fuck so try again

Do hate Bash for being a shit person though.

Real quick - for the couple of guys who have asked about why Joe hasn’t had his tooth gap filled, waiting for wisdom teeth would make sense. Carry on shitting one Bash - enjoyable

R44 wisdom teeth and just generally, especially with features as strong and sharp as joes, waiting for his “permanent” jawline. It’s grown sharper and more refined even since s1, im sure his teeth have shifted.

R38 Girl you should join this thread too since you are always here.

r43 only twt cunts would be as dumb to think we’re not able to separate Ben from Bash. i don’t even remember the last time we actually have a conversation about Ben here

[quote]the power of trans magic and gay vengeance

Still can't believe than an actual adult human being said something so corny.

R46 she really should, I need a bash stan commenting here for comedy

R47 ironically this thread always said Alice writing a closeted gay teen as a sexual predator was fucked up, so unsure where they get this shit from. We hate bash because of who he is as a person, dw

She's just dumb

[quote] They’ve been calling me names for months…. saying lies about me….. like… whatever

[quote] they literally have no idea what we have endured in these months and they still tell me that I should be a bigger person well I HAVE BEEN believe me and im human too

[quote] I’ve been the bigger person for MONTHS. I’m not replying to some ccs and im not doing that cause im actually being the bigger person. It’s fine. Let’s just drop this and move on thanks!

Someone said she spends all her time analyzing Charlie's wrist for the Bash bracelet and that's her fun so let people have their fun

[quote] it’s different, but okay. And I just reply to cc about those things. I am “inserted” in that fandom against my will almost every day so if I want to do something FOR ONCE I can’t? again, I haven’t murdered anyone cmon

She makes zero sense. What does all of this have to do with calling out DJL.

R50 I’m sad for her. She has no life.

R50 What I'm getting from the fit they're throwing in their CC is that they think the girl that mods DJL is a poster here which, no offense, but no one on here is calling Joe shit like pookie the way that admin has in some of their posts on DJL. Feel bad that they're catching strays because of us. That Ils bitch really is a fucking loser, though.

If she’s gonna come at joe and DJL, she shouldn’t be so hurt by facts getting thrown back at her. Fact: her tweet was humorless. Fact: bash has no ass. Fact: any random DJL tweet ratios bash a thousand times over. Fact: aside from his five min in HS, bash has never had a project come out on time.

R52 just as an FYI, we’re all pretty sure DJL a has two mods, a thirsty gay guy and then a girl. I’m sure both lurk here for content, which makes sense for good fanpages to do, but doubt either posts

R43 To be fair, I thought S2 was clear that there was hope for Ben to improve and Charlie sincerely hopes Ben does improve so that nobody else gets hurt. I'm glad they're not adapting Solitaire and that the Netflix end note for Ben is more "He'll get there someday, but Charlie won't be around to see it." Fandom getting angry about Ben having a "Heartstopper moment" has always been weird to me, since it's just an animation to show that he's thinking of taking those steps towards being out/here and queer but still isn't there yet. It's not an unearned redemption arc, but it also isn't saying he's a total lost cause.

Honestly, if Bash had played a character other than Ben and Joe still dated him, it's possible Bash wouldn't have gotten as much hate in fandom. But as it is now, you can usually tell if someone dislikes Bash for what he's done himself vs. conflating him with Ben the fictional character.

R52 DJL started was started by a gay guy but has a second admin who is probably a girl (pookie isn’t us obviously). Part of the reason it’s shit when hstwt go after DJL is because they will so quickly turn on one of the handful of gay guys so quickly.

R55 eh a lot of the twitter fans dislike imogen strongly but make it clear they have no issue with rhea, for instance. I do think while I strongly dislike him some of the shit bash got was really unfair but I don’t think much was tied to ben

R54 Yeah, that's why I specified the girl mod, that Ils dipshit answered a CC about someone being almost 30 so it sounds like she has personal beef with that specific mod.

Another jealous twink. Sad

Another jealous twink. Sad

R58 gotcha. I’m pretty sure that the original gay mod did used to comment here very occasionally but I actually tried to nail down who he was in a much earlier thread and he’s too hard to spot now.

R57 Bash's whole personality is pretty grating and I can see why people don't like it. Some people do, but given how he was a massive attention whore when he was dating Joe I can see why it didn't sit well with a lot of people.

R57 That's fair. I'm mostly thinking of Why Sebastian Croft is Problematic threads where Bash saying something like "Ben is complex/nuanced" or "You almost want Ben to get a Heartstopper moment to show his growth" is on the same level as like, discomfort with the Harry Potter game and putting money in JKR's transphobic pockets. One is implying a fictional antagonist might be more complicated than a moustache-twirling villain, and one is actively harmful to IRL people. It's almost like a callout post for an actress that put racism and disliking Taylor Swift in the same thread. Perspective!

R58 Yeah, don't know who owns the account, but apparently they hate Bash according to her. Which they didn't use to. Wonder why they do now. Can't be because they suddenly can't tell the difference between Ben and Bash

I think Joe unfollowed two people on finsta, maybe deleting some more of Bash’s crowd along with those tiktoks.

R63 no I get you. I feel even to this day that some of that shit is unfair, but honestly as a joe Stan seeing both how many lashings joe fans got and joe himself got for trying to have bash’s back only for bash to be such a dick about him now, I don’t care why people are coming at him. Sure, bimogen forever is problematic, why not

Also him stanning the 1975 is actually crazy

R63 Twitter is absolutely fucking dumb about explaining why Bash is a crappy person. Even the HP game was not a problem, his behavior after was though. We need a DL version with actual facts and not he played a role I don't like.

Okay, for the sake of this hypothetical, let's assume that this is true. If they're a Bash hater, it's not noticeable in how they run DJL. They posted Bash yesterday with no pie stickers or anything. And the post that set them off had absolutely nothing to do with Bash at all. There is no possible way to read shade against Bash into that post. So how does them being a "Bash hater" rationalize the bitchfit she threw about the specific tweet, to the point where she tried getting other people to dogpile the tweet?

R65 Yet Connor remains

R68 makes no sense at all. They’ve done nothing except not use his name is recent posts. He’s Joe’s ex and it’s a Joe account; not using Bash’s name so they don’t come up in a search together, is just respectful

Also they’re gonna have to get used to people disliking bash, critics also aren’t too fond of him historically.

Anyway, Charlie is continuing to reply to and interact with a Stan account for him and bash so if they continue to deny any clout chasing (with bash’s ounce max of clout) then lmao

Manifesting another one of these for S2. What scenes would you want included?

R71 They apparently really miss each other despite both being rich and unemployed. Just go fly to see him instead of talking about it publicly?

R73 Charlie needs to promote his newest whisper song, bash needs to keep posting months old photos from an awful photoshoot. Extremely busy

R72 I mean am even divide between joe and Kit scenes for one, instead of a bunch of Kit focused ones and then inviting joe to talk about how amazing Kit is at the end. Give them both the same chance to talk and the same chance to praise each other.

R72 The last scene (obviously), Nick coming out at dinner, Charlie confronting Ben (though I don’t know if that would be awkward), the little prom fantasy for laughs.

"I‘m not ready to do more than kissing" for more laughs.

I would also like an explanation for the chocolate scene, now that I think about it.

Tbf there are no real reasons to hate Bash or even cancel him. The fans are crazy and that thread they made was laughable. Just say you dislike him because he seems obnoxious, a service worker said he was rude, his apology for the jk game was weak and you don’t like the way he handled the break up. Leave it at that. But it’s too much to ask a fandom who demonize the only character in HS dealing with internalized homophobia so

Vicky has Joe’s rocket man / kit sweatshirt on her Twitter - so it can still be seen

Sorry if this is repeating info

R79 I mean I think he handled the HP thing terribly and the 1975 love is genuinely bad but

R78 Ooh, good one. I assume the makeout montage would be the pick for kissing commentary (they hyped it up in what S2 promo they did manage to do, plus we know there was improv) but the chocolate scene is truly so much.

R79 His grating personality aside, a lot of the things he's done would be dealbreakers for a lot of people. Treating a service worker like shit, painting a target on the back of a trans person to try and dig himself out of a hole of his own making.

R80 It's on DJL, too. Good thing about update accounts is that they're essentially a living archive.

Is Joe pregnant yet?

You know he’s has more sperm in him than a fertility clinic.

The Rocketman TikTok is also on all the JoeKit update accounts on Insta.

R84 I know you’re aiming for insulting but honestly, sadly, he’s keeping very tidy. I’d love him to embrace a slut phase

Kit‘s showing a sign of life on insta. hope he’s bored on a train or something and keeps going

This one is funny to me. “Show me where I ever hated joe”, presume the other person sent her an example, “well i deleted your reply with the very proof I asked for because you’re a hater”. Astounding. She might actually be dumber than her fav

R86 I love that shoot. I think this shot from it is underrated.

I’m thinking Kit is a top with fire engine red pubes.

Thoughts?

R89 you’ve asked 45 version of this question. To get all answers in one place yes, both joe and Kit have big dicks and tight juicy asses, Kit probably has ginger pubes, joe probably trims his, joe loves getting his ass eaten and spanked, Kit loves throwing him around, Kit is vers top, joe is a bottom, Kit would top joe after rimming him, joe gives amazing head and has dick sucking lips

R83 Still think the twitter fans are doing too much and liking 1975 is not enough to cancel somebody but ymmv

R90 endorsed

R91 I mean I just don’t care is my point. Is it them being too dramatic snd doing too much? Probably. Do I think he’s a dickhead in many ways and feel zero desire to defend his honor? Also yes

They both look great here. Excellent jawlines, great lips. Joe really does have massive cartoon eyes, plus the naturally downturned mouth. Cute aggression

I randomly remembered that that Keeks freak blocked DJL. The strays that they've caught from Bash, his friends, and his stans is wild.

R96 Kiki’s clout chasing is working to an extent. Got to photograph Bella ramsays new clothing collection thing

keep seeing these tweets, as if he has nothing better to do than edging his fans.

R98 Kit teasing and edging joe until he’s overstimulated and begging to come is a new mental image I didn’t know I wanted. Thank you for that.

R99 I’ve been using that one for awhile tbh

yw.

Kit need to post Joe working on his downward dog, not old pics. He's still hot though

I want both of them to share the NYT shoot now that the strikes are over. Mostly because of the prestige, but also because it's a great shoot.

R102 when Kit sees joes ass he’s too busy covering his hard on to take pics for us. TW to the bash stans lurking here: people being attracted to joe, joe having an ass

Kit had a lot of wonderful articles and photoshoots for the S2 run. Hopefully he’ll post some of them on his grid.

R90 I like the way you think.

I hope weir Grinder photos leak soon.

I need some spank material.

R106 Keep dreaming

The self pity is so funny and makes so much sense for a bash fan

R108 She really does come across as a total moron. She might as well own up to the fact that she, like a typical Bash stan, was triggered by the acknowledgement of the Joe/Kit friendship and banter. All DJL did was round up comments and pictures from Kit himself. The whole thing had literally nothing to do with Bash or being a Bash hater.

A couple of those generic pop whatever Twitter accounts have picked up Joe’s photo in the last couple of hours. As they are cunts about the looks of Kit you can imagine how Joe is fairing.

They are cunts about everyone. Stan Twitter is a mistake

R109 joe and Kit really need to fuck out of spite. Among other reasons

R111 actually the tide has turned a bit. People are genuinely saying they don’t think he’s ugly ‘anymore’. Which proves to me a lot of it was just about the fact they knew it upset him but they can see they’re not going to win that one in the end

Interesting. They could just be trying to stir shit too tbh.

Yeah I’ve seen the douchey comments. You can tell they’re all from ugly twinks or ugly women as they invariably have some mediocre pop girlie as their pfp

R113 actually I believe it. Pretty sure they’re talking about shadow hunters. Dominic Sherwood called a colleague a fag on a live which resulted in the funniest apology video ever

R115 I watched that show and barely remember this, I thought it was forgotten about after the apology but the show was also forgotten about after it ended so…

People thinking that Joe and Kit hate each other over a TikTok video being deleted of all things is HIGHLY dumb as fuck.

His last tiktok is literally still up where he and tobie are teasing Kit

R115 hilarious shit, almost looks like a parody..

Went through the cast TikToks today. Most keep their followers and following private but kizzy doesn’t follow bash on there anymore

R115 The cut to the apology always fucking kills me.

R120 yeah, that was brought up a while ago

R114 the ‘jump scare - who’s that?’ nonsense. I mean, you know, you’re just bitter it’s not your mediocre pop fav (apologies to Beyonce - I’m obvs not meaning those).

R117 kit deleted everything except his Will TikTok and then spent 48 hours with Joe over his birthday a few months later. I had a thought that maybe if they’re about to have an interviews Joe doesn’t want to spend every single one taking about it.

R120 yes. Love that

R122 ngl a lot happens in these threads. People are inevitably going to miss things.

Also, I mean, it’s possible that Joe met Elton the other day if he met those two friends of his. Maybe he thinks it might be a bit weird now to have that up. The timing lines up

R117 Yeah, there's no reason to worry about that right now. As has been pointed out, Joe left the most recent video up which was about Kit. Joe's also generally weird on TikTok, for example he deleted that Wimbledon TikTok he did with Tobie that one time for no real reason. And for the people freaking out about Kit only being partially visible in the posts yesterday (not anyone here, but I assume some of the lurkers are the ones doing it), Joe didn't include Kit in his S2 release dump, either.

R109 Tbh I’m surprised they took the joke so well. I remember some fans throwing a fit when DJL used the joekit photo as their twitter banner.

R127 I mean that was maybe 2 fans. There are always pissy people either joe or Kit Stans on the margin. Annoyance about the DJL cover pic was the most fringe of fringe opinions.

People insulting Joe’s shirtless picture are either Taylor Swift stans or K-pop weirdos and the people in their pfps would probably hate them.

R126 People got a little too spoiled with the online stuff. Their friendship is almost all offline. Those fuckers never gave us anything from their little festival date beyond reposting Aisling.

R129 tbh now there are more fans setting him up, talking about how shit the comments are then there are cunty comments.

Just comment he’s hot and drown out the fuckwits

R127 I could be wrong, but I feel like a lot of those same fans calmed down a bit when they realized that yeah, those two really care for each other and have a solid friendship outside of all of the bullshit.

R127 o mean I also completely rolled my eyes at the cover photo drama but I think the point there was “fans only voted for that layout because kit wasn’t in it, why can’t joes fan page just be him”. Still dramatic and dumb but I don’t think their “issue” was with the Joe and kit friendship.

AnywAy Joe deleted that tiktok because kit recently fucked him while he was we wearing the hoodie and now he has a fond horny connotation he wants to keep to himself. Can anyone prove to me that that’s NOT true?

R126 Fans need to let them do their things. Also, asking for content all the time when they’re busy filming a TV show is weird. I feel like fans have become more and more entitled. We legit just got so much content for Joe’s birthday, fashion shows, etc. Calm down.

R135 even Joe is just dropping stories not a post. Which to me explains lack of Kit tbh. Joe doesn’t seem to be the one who takes the boyfriend photos - that’s Kit’s job

I do wonder who that thirst trap was originally for. Hopefully someone even close to his calibre

R136 I don't want to know unless there's tangible proof of Joe's self-esteem being better now. We just got rid of Lego.

I still can't believe that balding racist man had the audacity to leave up a comment for 16 hours saying he was too hot for Joe

I haven't ever seen this pic either. Who is this giant hot man

R137 He hasn’t followed any random single London guys recently, so we’re marked safe for now.

R135 The timing just sucks. I actually get the hunger for content (especially from the leads) because there has essentially been no promo for this season. People have set themselves up for disappointment by getting so excited about the strike ending and expecting a flood of missed S2 stuff, especially the vlogs. I guess it’s just too far away now and like you said, they’re working and have moved on to a S3 headspace. Understandable, but I also get the anticipation on twitter under the circumstances. Basically fuck the shit timing of the S2 release.

R139 I remember seeing this picture, don't know who the guy is but I remember it's from the afterparty of the Joe Lycett Pride special they were on.

R141 Some shade, but the people who have posted the show on their grid 1) have nothing much else going for them 2) aren't that busy

He's obviously in the rearview mirror, but I feel like Kamala Harris in one that video where she says she loves good news every time I'm reminded of this.

R144 I know we joke about Joe's taste in men, but he does seem to have the ability to end it and move on no problem, which is again good news . He's not hanging around clinging to a guy who isn't worth his time.

R144 always nice to have it really spelled out

R143 Also interesting that those dumps basically didn’t include the main cast excepting Yaz. The boys really are a tight unit.

Shit Cori was in most of them too but she seems a genuinely closer to that part of the cast, again the boys are close

R148 Cori seems like one of those people that everybody across the board loves. She seems lovely.

Cori is really close with Bradley

Random, reddit sub talking about Joe and Bash and said Jedward was hanging with Amybeth right before they unfollowed joe. Seabiscuit really spending her time talking about Joe 6 months after the breakup

I think the main guys are closer to each other and then rest of them although they all get along just fine, there is clear groups!

Cori seems so lovely for sure!

Assuming we may see some content from filming at Charlie’s house this week.

Just thought, if Darcy’s narcissistic cow of a mother didn’t like the suit last season how does Darcy end up getting a mullet?

R153 My guess is the mullet is tied to the resolution of that arc, I'm just not sure what it is. She moves in with Tara? She has a dad that steps up?

We need the chemistry of the top two in the bottom position.

Speaking of break-ups, Maia calls herself single in this interview. Looks like she's having fun reuniting and working with the PLL cast again, though, so doing well if she really did split from her guitarist.

R154 Perhaps! * Just saw the post with their new pfps for Insta again and some tie in with season 2 but someone are clearly season 3.

R155 The Red White and Royal Blue guys look like Ken dolls that have been forced together haha

R152 Our BFF Daisy the reporter is on it, hopefully.

R157 It'll be interesting if we see Kizzy filming at some point and he has the wig back on.

R156 I noticed that had cooled right off. I know we always say Kit was casual (and it was definitely open) but she does seem to go hard when she’s seeing someone. You would have thought she and Kit were serious with all the content she pumped out. He just wasn’t really giving the same energy. That being said, I know very few care about her now. I’m just a gossip queen

R153 I'm curious about this since Kizzy gave an interview circa S1 about turning down a non-binary arc for Darcy when Alice offered it to them. For now, I'll assume the mullet look is something Darcy does to spite her mother's hatred for anything gender non-conforming. Shout-out to people who clocked it in the carnival videos, which are probably from the season finale.

R159 Kizzy has the wig on in the beach filming I think, so has to be something that happens later

Curious if Alice actually does both the hand job scene and the sex scene in S3 or just picks one as the sparkling finale.

R156 Yeah, I noticed she wasn’t interacting with the new guy anymore. He stopped liking her posts a while ago.

R162 Handjob would make the most sense to me, especially if they didn't give Joe the goddamn crop top.

R161 Totally forgot we saw it in what I also assume is the season finale shooting. But I assume the account in I say will be used before then but maybe not?

I mentioned Kizzy perhaps giving the nb storyline a green light back when we got those pictures too so you may be right, or Darcy still goes be she/her but is like fuck you I express myself as I want!

Joe not being in a crop top is a crime against humanity

R164 I assume it’ll be fade to black from a heavy makeout session so it’ll be up for interpretation.

As long as Kit is at least shirtless, it’s hot and heavy and Nick gives Charlie another hickey and there’s grinding it can fade to black.

A TikTok account posting a were the bad ass trio vibes video for Joe Kit and Sebastian but turning the comments off lmao

Kit&Bash Simp is their username and they still post Joe and Sebnasty videos, so all their comments are off.

R167 It'll be fun to see what kind of creative editing they end up employing in post to water down the scene.

As a reminder, this is how Joe and Kit decided to act out thankfulness over a chocolate bar:

R167 I think considering the shape Joe is in we may get shirtless Charlie as well. I fucking hope so anyway. The two of them shirtless together might melt my brain but it will be worth it

R164 The shirt they gave Charlie for the concert does actually look like the shirt from the handjob scene, but thematically it feels more dramatic/conclusive to end the season with Charlie being comfortable taking his shirt off. The build-up to shirtless Charlie would be a plot point as early as the beach episode/season premiere, and Alice has mentioned liking closure. It could go either way, though I feel like they won't be able to resist the lube and condoms scene if they're doing the uni tour.

Charlie being magically cured of all mental illness in one season while it takes Nick two to come out and imogens dumb ass three to figure out she’s a lesbian is still insane

R139 Joe is so tiny. Need his next hookup to preferably be kit but if not a hot age appropriate non weirdo who knows he’s lucky and who can throw Joe around

R173 Season 3 also has to end with a full circle moment because they don't know yet if they'll do a season 4. R174 I don't think you are ever cured of such things. Alice might want to have some elements of positivity/optimism in the storyline

R174 Alice isn't comfortable or knowledgeable enough to write Charlie's storyline. she's comfortable with bi/homophobia and coming out scenes since she loves doing that.. I've just accepted it and hope for a shirtless Joe scene.

R175 sorry but I’m not gonna give Alice any benefit of the doubt that this turnaround in ONE season is realistic or fair and solely there because she wants to increase levity. It’s because she’s a shit writer and Netflix doesn’t care enough about Joe to tell her to suck it up and focus more time on it

R177 I don't believe Charlie will be cured of his eating disorder in one season. However, the whole point of the series is to show moments of optimism and hope throughout the characters' journey. I may be wrong but I believe this will be implemented also in Season 3.

Pretty sure the Jedward news came from here. Source: I posted that after they hung out I checked Jedward’s follows and they followed most of the cast except Joe. Remains hilarious that Joe got acting wise, Aubrey and Patti LuPone; fashion wise BV, Ralph Lauren, and others; cast wise Kit, Tobie, kizzy, Will, etc.; and music wise olivia rodrigo in the breakup. Meanwhile bash has acting wise seabiscuit and Disney channel actress Isabella pappas; fashion wise war criminal Harry lambert; cast wise rhea and a glorified eztra named phoenix; and music wise jedward.

R178 disagree with this timeline. You can have moments of hope that aren’t “my body image issues are gone, I can be shirtless and in crop tops within 6 episodes!” Could be Charlie asking for seconds at dinner, suggesting they order something not on his meal plan, saying he thinks he looks good in the mirror. You’re welcome to your opinion, I just think it’s an insane speed run of his storyline again given it takes Nick 2 seasons to come out and Imogen 3 to realize her sexuality.

The way these people type is so weird and cringe, between sunshine boy, trans magic and gay vengeance, and “people throw rocks at things that shine and you and bash SHINE”

R181 Not going to lie, that sounds like someone sent her a CC trolling her and she thought they were on her side.

R180 People have floated two theories: that they're finishing Volume 5 in Season 3 because they have to act like Season 3 is their last (similar to S1's ending); or they're finishing the season with Volume 5 because of all the criticism about the show being puritanical and sexless. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a bit of both. I'm withholding comments until we see it, but as usual, I suspect Joe and Kit's chemistry will override most writing complaints.

R180 I may be wrong. I haven't read all of the comics. Will Imogen have a bigger role next season? I don't recall seeing much of her last season. From what I heard it seems as though Season 3 will focus on Charlie's eating disorder.

R184 Patrick has liked tweets about how the lighting when she looks at sahar is purposefully lesbian flag colours and she’s been seen in all the uni scenes and the group beach day. Sadly we will have to deal with her. And again, for the fair and nicks uni tours to happen this season, the timeline has moved up a lot. So Charlie’s actual hospitalization and recovery will likely be a flash forward, while again every other character doesn’t have that.

R183 I absolutely agree that they’ve taken the sexless comments to heart because it makes them look bad. Yeah, fair that you’re going with progression of a relationship and they’re not there yet but some of it was rediculious.

The ‘I’m not ready scene’ despite looking like they’re absolutely ready could have been really good as a yeah, I think about it with you but I’m not quite there yet but instead I have to skip it because it makes me cringe.

So, what they have to realise is it’s not the sexlessness that’s the issue, it’s the way they go about it. Plus, Joe and Kit’s chemistry is too intense and if they’d had a bit of the sexual tension being obvious in season 2, it won’t seem random in season 3.

R186 As a second thought, I’d actually blame the fandom first and then the writing.

Hadn’t seen 2 of these before. He’s so cute

R184 I hope she doesn’t have a bigger role. There’s way too much going on as it is. This season really needs to be a CHARLIE and Nick sort of season. Especially if they’re doing two books in one.

I kinda want to see this. Where’s the location again?

R188 I really thought I’d seen every photo of Joe (like a fucking saddo), the one in front of the lockers and noodle one are completely new to me

R190 Windsor.

R181 absolutely dead at the accusation that we like joe for his ass only. It’s an incredible perk on top of his many other amazing features. But I suppose they can honestly say ass plays no role in them liking bash. How could it

R184 Not sure about the role itself (I suspect the worst), but it's definitely going to feel like she's inescapable now that she's part of the group.

R194 absolutely kills me that Patrick is so obsessed with the character and appears to give as much of a shit about Rhea as he does about Joe

R195 The way I really want to root for Patrick but he makes it fucking impossible.

R193 Written by the the third Bash fan who has had a complete breakdown over his asslessness. It's amazing. Only two more to go.

R196 all it would take is a tiny effort to be more balanced, but no, gotta be a bitter queen.

R198 He hasn’t shown any preferences in months though. He’s barely online as it is.

R199 ymmv but he likes or comments on essentially everything Kit posts. Thats not replicated for Joe. As with everything to do with Joe and HS, it is what it is. The show made him successful enough to have an Agent and PR (as shitty as they may be) which has given him access to the opportunity to auditions (that he’s successfully booked) and make connections. While I think it’s sad Patrick isn’t as supportive of one of the coleads of his show (or even as supportive as he is of Jonathan Bailey for that matter) it’s also a whatever. Patrick’s hot and a bit of a cunt - many are

R200 That’s not showing preference imo. That’s his personal social media. In the season 1 circa, Alice appeared to be closer to Joe and Bash than Kit and I never took it as her being unfair to Kit/having a preference for Joe. I think the overall HS page used to be more Nick centric, which was a problem and I’m glad fans talked about it, but they haven’t been like that in weeks.

R201 firstly, Alice sucks amd has also been unsupportive of both Kit and joe. Secondly, alice never liked way more posts about joe than Kit, hyped joes awards and castings and interviews and not kits, etc. Patrick does. Thirdly, he isn’t close to Kit from anything I’ve seen. Honestly I wouldn’t care at all if he was closer to Kit, they hung out and got lunches and dinners, and then he posted more about him (which again, Alice didn’t do for joe). But instead he just blatantly favors him and it’s weird.

Also what exactly does “showing preference” mean if not.. showing preference? Like you’re comforting yourself instead of just admitting he favors Kit.

R201 his personal sm is public. It’s pretty clear who he likes more, which as the visible Producer, is a choice. It would be very very easy not to be so obviously preferential but he’s not down for that clearly. Re the HS account, you’re right.

FYI don’t bother, the “Patrick isn’t showing any preference” person is exactly who you think it is

R204 ah, thanks. Should’ve guessed

We talked about Tobie being dropped by ITG forever ago, but someone in that gossip subreddit has an IMDB Pro account and confirmed that Tobie isn't with a new talent agency.

R204 tbh I’m very happy to engage with anyone about it. We have different views, which is fine. I’m probably not going to change hearts and minds but that not an issue. I raised it and I’m happy to justify my position

R207 you do you, of course, just wanted to give people a heads up that they’re engaging with someone who will defend bash; Alice, Rhea, bash, basically anyone but Joe

R208 replace second bash with Patrick. You get the point. If you’ve treated Joe like shit, he’ll defend you. If you’re Joe, actually you don’t deserve better

R206 wild they kept rhea not him. Honestly weird to me that they dropped him at all. It was clear his s1 role was smaller but would be bigger in s2 onward.

R204 Man, you’re really stupid. We’re talking about currently. How is Patrick showing preference right now? Quickly…

R211 man you’re really stupid. How do you define “showing preference” if not posting about, liking tweets about, hyping more? Quickly…

Anyway they don’t have anything going on right now so dumbass example. Next year when they have interviews and magazine shoots again I would bet money that he will once again, as he did literally this summer, like, post, comment etc on all of kits and either skip joes or add it weeks later as an afterthought after posting all of Kit’s. You can just say “I prefer kit by far so am glad Patrick does too” fyi

Let’s not do this. Most of us think Patrick’s favoritism is clear; one of us thinks it isn’t, thinks rhea isn’t a cunt to joe, thinks bash is bullied too much, thinks Alice isn’t fucking over Charlie or joe. Pretty clear track record, not gonna change each others minds, move on.

R212 Because you’re dumb argument makes no sense. It’s as simple as that. How are likes relevant but Alice who used to hang out with Joe and not Kit isn’t? Like I said, I don’t think they are showing preferences as of late. They are barely using their social media.

R213 fair you’re right, Will ignore

R211 I’m the person who originally raised it, not the person you’re now engaging with. He didn’t like Joe’s last post and he was online at around the time liking other stuff. I hear your view and I just don’t agree - nbd

If That Person ever says Joe deserves better and is poorly treated, I’ll be so concerned by his personality switch I’ll have to recommend he get screened for a brain tumor. That’s how clear his Joe issue is

This is a really good Nick edit. The OP said they’re making a Charlie one next, will bring it over when I see it.

This photoshoot was really hot

R156 + R160 Kit had for the most part been ignoring her insta posts over the last few months. Then a few days ago Maia posted an insta story where she was doing a sexy little dance that someone recorded of her and she then posted. So maybe she has broken away from the guitarist and wants to show off. She usually isn't that obvious. Anyway, Kit has started liking her posts again as of yesterday.

Who knows. If she is single again, maybe they will start up.

R217 I’ve said that many times. You’re getting mad over nothing, again. R216 Yeah, no worries. Noted.

R220 Kit's been liking her posts at random the entire time. He already skipped her most recent one.

R220 maybe during publicity for the movie but they literally live in different continents. Kit engages sometime. Regarding being that ‘obvious’, definitely don’t agree, Maia knows how to have fun and look hot on sm. It’s all redundant until we hear anything about Cuban Girl. I wonder if the all knowing author has inaccurate information

Not y’all trying to make Maia happen again based on nothing, laughing.

R223 no. Definitely not what I’m doing. Just trying not to be a dick to the person trying to kickstart the fantasy

R224 Especially since he's never flat out ignored her posts, his sporadic likes were still happening when she was with the guitarist.

If Kit is fucking a costar on a press tour next year idt it’ll be Maia.

R219 It physically hurts me that this shoot isn't on their feeds.

R227 The gay energy this thread deserves.

Don't know what's funnier, that she's stupid enough to think that Joe and Kit fell out 2 days after Joe followed 2 people he met through Kit, or that she finally admitted that part of her resentment is about people hating Bash. Can't imagine being this defensive about Joe/Bash shippers as an alleged Joe stan when they're the ones that hate Joe now. She's also gloating about them "winning" when Bash is the one permanently out of Joe's life, not Kit. Not much of a win.

R229 Getting in her feelings about how persecuted Joe and Bash shippers are today of all days? Read the room. Not related, but I’m skimming her likes and she liked a racist tweet wondering why Kang can’t be white, so her shittiness apparently know no bounds.

R229 as always, lexxie confirms to me that she’s not just an unhinged joe fan who hates Kit because she feels some bizarre sense of competition on joes behalf (which of course would still be unhinged and shitty, but I think is how she wants to come off), but is actually just a Kit anti who posts about joe sometimes to make it seem like her primary purpose isn’t just being a dick to Kit. Don’t know a single actual joe fan who doesn’t feel negative to some degree about bash

R229 Someone give her a dictionary and grammar book

R231 You can definitely tell by how she posts about Joe. It's never about being happy for him or even giving a fuck about his well-being, it's about repeatedly gloating that he booked Marvel and that it makes him better than Kit. In a delusional and hypothetical alternate reality where Bash was the one that booked Marvel, I think she would've dropped Joe for him.

R233 in a world where bash gets any success at all, she’ll absolutely drop joe and pivot to how bash is a REAL queer man with a great career and Kit is a traitor who hates bash’s success and queer love and sided with slutty joe in the breakup.

I wouldn’t care about her nonsense but so many joe stans still follow her. Even the Joe locke update account (latam).

R235 some I presume are also dickheads but I cut slack to the non Spanish speaking ones. She started her bullshit under w new account name and shows up in most searches for joe Locke because of her account name. They probably see pics of him and hit follow and don’t translate her bitchy Kit rants. But again I cut way less slack to fans who read Spanish, and I presume some are also dicks.

R235 Honestly doesn't surprise me, that account is run by Cindy and she's another weirdo about Kit.

Laughed out loud at the latest twink calling joe ugly on twitter because he’s actually dollar tree joe if ever I’ve seen one

R238 Link? Because I will say that to him.

R238 I don't know why the bitter Twitter gays are still fighting it, they're all a thirst trap away from changing their tunes about Joe.

R238 link to the tweet

Link to the guy in question, who is literally just uglier Joe. Even tried to copy his eyebrow slit. Fix the lazy eye and grow a jawline and brain perhaps

R235 The person who manages the Joe Locke Latam account is Cindy, who is a friend of Lexxie, another one who hates Kit but does not show it in her publications, especially in private.

And finally here’s a link to the latest anti joe cunt’s music. I cannot believe this but I’ve found a worse musician than bash. Also this guy is way worse looking than joe

R244 This song is so fucking awful that I've decided to renounce homosexuality and go back into the closet. Maybe some homos don't deserve rights.

Like he’s brave as hell to call joe ugly idk

I’m (occasionally) a good person, I don’t deserve to be subjected to all of this.

And one of the people agreeing with him saying people are just mad he told the truth. The lack of mirrors in these peoples homes

R246 Ew why are you bringing this here

R249 comedy. Supports the notion that I’ve never seen an actual hot person shit on joe. All ugly women and gays who are livid he’s hot and queer men want to fuck him

Love when a lurker or poster comes in handy

R250 he’s just trolling. someone told him he looks like joe and he said “true tbh”

Speaking of that lurker (definitely that) this tweet of theirs sent me. They’re not wrong. That post is bookmarked by 1000 horny gays (sorry - maybe 900 horny gays and 100 girlies).

R252 did you also brush off the lexxie conversation and act like it’s irrelevant or is it only joe hate you can ignore and justify?

R254 you’ll never guess who it is. The ability to justify a tweet saying “Joe is ugly” as not REALLY bullying Joe is next level

R254 Geez, carry on talking about the ugly twink. I’m not stopping you. Just said he’s doing that for attention.

R256 so is lexxie and yet you bitch about her. I’m fine shitting on lexxie, in fact I enjoy it. Just stop whining about her to then try to say it’s ok this guy talks shit on joe. Just call him a fucking asshole. Be normal.

R253 I love looking at the amount of bookmarks shirtless Joe and Kit get, the gays go absolutely feral for them.

the views on the djl tweet, like i see you horny people

Thought I’d seen it all and then I saw “well this tweet calling Joe ugly isn’t REALLY calling Joe ugly”. The hoops this guy jumps through.

All the trolling seems pretty half hearted. Usual types of suspects and attracting very few likes (I’m not looking at the Brazilian’s, they scare me). Not diminishing just noting they seem to be screaming at nil audience. Nothing like a hot tits out selfie to turn those shallow cunts around. Let’s have one regularly, Joe

R257 I didn’t post the tweet about lexxie, moron.

R262 nope, just replied twice. And neither reply was “she’s just trolling who cares”. Again, why can’t you just say “that guy is a fucking dick and it sucks he’s calling j9e ugly” instead of saying it’s just trolling and not serious? You seem to have no issues having Kit or Alice or rhea or Patrick or insert random person here’s back. What is it about joe that someone can literally just call him ugly and it’s all good to you?

If that one guy is still pretending he doesn’t hate Joe, will give the pro tip that explaining why hate tweets about him aren’t that bad doesn’t help his narrative

R263 Well, Lexxie is actually in the fandom. Imagine if we started bringing every random troll in here that said kit/joe is ugly? And again all I said was he’s just looking for attention. Calm your tits.

R265 again wouldnt it be so easy to just go “that guy is a dick”, but good goalpost moving to justify why Kit hate is awful and must be discussed and joe hate never matters. You’re a real piece of work

R266 it is honestly fascinating that it would’ve been so simple for them to say “well of course I think that guy sucks and Joe is hot” and they still refuse. Absolutely run a Joe anti account on Twitter I’m convinced

R266 Whatever, you’re clearly looking for a fight. Have fun man

R268 seriously asking outright. Do you think his tweet was okay. It is at this point insane to me you won’t say Joe isn’t ugly and that guy is a prick.

The next time someone tries to white knight for this one guy and say he doesn’t really hate Joe, am absolutely reminding you of this. Justifying bullying him is actually crazy

R270 You need to learn how to read ffs it’s actually insane

Not sure why I’m catching strays. I just don’t want to blow the thread up every time someone disagrees with me. I’m not justifying bullying Joe - the guy that tweeted is a cunt.

R271 seriously waiting for you to just say you don’t think what the guy said is acceptable. It’s moved past being a Derailing dick into you being a fucking bully yourself to joe.

R272 sorry you think you’re catching a stray. Just saying you don’t need to defend him as a misunderstood flower who isn’t trying to shade Joe. He literally has no issue with a tweet calling him ugly. If people want to call him a weird sad loser forever I’m fine with it.

Someone else once said something similar. That the online haters who are commenting awful things about Joe are doing this for attention or likes. I don't think the poster meant any harm. Let us change the subject.

R275 nope, sorry. You can drop it if you want. I won’t. This person has a track record and again won’t just say “ this is what I meant ofc it’s unacceptable”. Unclear why we’re cutting him and his issue with joe so much slack. I’m sick of it

Reminder that the same guy who’s doing all this about Joe is the one who flew into hysterics about people taking low blows at Nick Nelson because they thought the uni storyline was boring.

Anyway both the ugly twitter twink and the ugly fucker on this thread will never be him

R276 You’re so miserable

R279 and you’re a hideous jealous woman or twink, unclear which!

R276 Hilarious that you guys have a track record of who said what. Very very rare here.

R281 not too difficult if you have two brain cells and recall there’s one person with an anti joe thing on here. Thanks.

R282 If I'm frank, I do not see anyone here that has a problem with the boys. The cattiness must be due to a lack of content.

R283 good for you and your bash apologism. Thanks again for your opinion, really rocked my world

Is the fighting necessary every fucking day?

R285 if a singular person on this thread fucked off, no. But sorry, I’m not going to go, let’s keep the peace, it’s fine you think it’s okay for some ugly twink to shit on joe.

R283 Forget it. It’s too exhausting making sense with an idiot. He thinks everyone secretly hates Joe so let him. There’s a real double standard here but it is what it is.

R287 trust me if someone called Kit ugly I wouldn’t be on here justifying, you brain dead hideous moron. You’re a waste of oxygen

R288 Still waiting for the proof of me justifying it, miserable cunt

R289 still waiting as I’ve asked you no fewer than theee times, if you disagree with it, why not say that. Seriously interesting you are so allergic to saying joe is hot and this guy is a fucking dick.

Isn’t this the same guy who goes on about how it’s not okay to hate bash and how crunchy is the cruelest woman alive for calling kits shoes dirty? But whatever

Regardless of the thoughts of ugly twinks, Kit isn’t down bad for them this way

R280 Cuz you’re being a weirdo and I don’t have to answer to you? I’ve said he’s only doing this for attention… meaning who cares about this troll! Go boss around someone else and free us from this meltdown girl

R292 I mean Joe’s funny but is he that funny? Probably not. Unless you want to fuck him

R293 right so you just agree with him. You should fuck off. I made the thread, you go ahead and make your own to whine about how mean joe fans aren’t ok with him being called ugly.

Not going to argue, but you don't get to say he's just doing it for attention when it's about Joe but and then earlier find an IG comment that's rude to Kit and throw a fit about it.

I like that it’s “free us” on a thread where literally no one agrees with him. If you shut the fuck up and just stayed on Twitter the fights here would be cut to zero immediately

This thread is weird now

R297 Why don’t you leave? Genuinely, you guys take bitching to another level. Talking about the miserable Joe stans on twitter when you’re the one starting fights over nothing.

Again, I made the fucking thread. In fact I make the vast majority of them. You leave. Join cursed alien and the ugly twink above and your other friends with an issue with joe.

You guys are all annoying. This is DL, not a secret club. I'll make the next thread and ban you all.

Not how that works but good try.

Anyway, a reminder that once again to ugly twinks in this thread and on twitter, Kit wouldn’t fuck you. Tw to bash fans

R301 I mean, as someone who actually uses more than just this thread I know you know that’s not how it works. It really is normal a lot. Joe getting called ugly being justified obviously is a sore point because the man himself has spoken about how hurtful it is.

R303 All I see is a bunch of gay men being obtuse. I think the lack of trolls here is getting to this thread

Anyway, if the boys hate each other now we will finally see if they are real actors!

Entitled post:

We need content!

An unhinged live with Kit keeping his camera too long on Joe please and Tobie teasing us about S2 vlogs would do nicely . And Cori laughing .

R306 Kit lovingly filming joe is a need

People of Slough we need your service and that one reporter lady. Although it’s barely gone 8am back home.

Any sign of them filming today?

R263 lexxie is no longer in the fandom

… Well

Our favourite Bash girl is back! She saying this as if she didn’t actively start a fandom war yesterday lol

The lorries

R313 That fan is going to go check if they can see the set later

Likely we’ll get pics and videos

Kit’s awake, and basically trolling the fans at this point. Unintentionally

Kit‘s story

was the jazz bar video on Will‘s story?

R318 I’m confused by this. Where did they get the jazz bar story from? Wasn’t Will’s of a much bigger venue?

Sorry - just remembered Kit’s mate’s name is also Will.

R317 Kit's as hot as always. His friend is hot, too. Makes me laugh that we didn't even have to wonder who that is because we figured out why Kit was in Edinburgh immediately.

R318 It wouldn't surprise me if it's from a locked account based on the quality alone, looks like a screen recording and we already know that at least one person has access to his friend's account given we've seen leaks before.

R323 I love his low effort in taking selfies and still looking ten times as hot as selfie stick, high angle, perfect lighting Lego.

I hope for Joe and Kit‘s sanity that they will not be swarmed by a whole high school because of this..

I mean I knew they‘d film Charlie’s bday, but spare me Rhea on a Monday ffs.

R325 yeah, the screaming teen Kit girlie factor could be a big pain in the arse, if even HS fans didn’t know how to behave themselves around set.

These morons guilted her into not posting anymore.

R328 It's not safe? What do they think the screaming fangirls are going to do

R328 That's such a shame when they were being fairly reasonable and respectable about it. The filming location was announced last week in an article, so people would have found out with or without this person.

Also, if you're really a fan that doesn't want this stuff to spread around, why would you QRT it and draw more attention to it. We love logic.

And she's still going, just not posting about. Way to ruin everything.

She’s clearly still going, just won’t be posting it online for y’all to see. Those twitter girls are so boring and like to ruin things.

R332 Ugh had to say something to them because these are the kind of little know it all patronising bitchies I hate, just trying to make some random feel bad because they are jealous that another fan is there getting to see it all.

Other people will probably still post, I would go if I were still in the country.

Once again hilarious that Toast and others were whining he should’ve been Wiccan.

R334 He really is a shithead. Just casually laughing and joking about an ongoing tragedy from the comfort of a gentrified cafe on the other side of the world. I genuinely hope he never works again and that any potential sugar daddy has the good sense to swerve him. The bitches who whined about Joe getting cast over him also need to issue some sort of apology because they look even more idiotic now than they did back then.

looks like they still might post something. but not this dumbass replying it’s cool to film them while they’re out and about but not while acting.

I'm better our bestie the reporter, whatever her name is, will have pictures anyway. They publicly announced the filming for the next 9 days. Get over it dumb fans. Glad she didn't let them bully her

R338 *I'd bet

R317 The local press writing about his visit like he's the Pope or something killed me.

of course crunchy had to chime in.

I still can't believe you guys had a fit yesterday because someone said an online troll was looking for attention. LOL

R341 I gotta know how they are unsafe truly. Plus it's in an article.

R342 I'm sick of the arguments, but that's not why

R342 We are not bringing this up again.

R342 what a helpful comment to help shift the mood. Definitely stands no chance of starting it up again.

R342 bringing it up like this will only start another round, so let’s not.

R343 annoying maybe if a whole high school starts rolling up but the unsafe argument is the same babying as always

If you two idiots think you have the moral high ground because you’re ok with a 20 year old getting bullied, go for it

R347 I think you are seeing different things perhaps because no one is condoning the bullying on this thread. Unless it is trolls themselves that come here. I've seen threads be brutal and guys telling each other to die over worst I suppose. It is still hilarious.

Truly wonder how stupid some people are that they won’t let sleeping dogs lie.

R349 Do not worry my friend. I won't disturb the thread for much longer. I will come back when the new season is here. I have noticed there seems to be an uneven stance here. Guys who want to bring up things about Joe Locke can do so for many comments but when the poor fellow brings up something about Kit Connor it is often dismissed rapidly. I understand why there are no separate threads but to say this thread is equally about both boys is a lie.

R350 k bye

Have suspected for a while but this basically confirms to me this is that other guys alt account. Functionally only weighs in to echo his points and defend him. Funny as Fuck

R350 really not gonna get into this again but you could not be making a dumber point. No one dismissed lexxie’s obsessive bullying of Kit the way that guy did the bullying of joe. How is it unequal treatment to say “bullying both bad”

R352 Are you finally confessing tou have multiple accounts here? Because that would make sense with the echo chamber

And this is exactly why you’re a fucking moron to bring it up when shit finally settled down. Look who’s back.

You got the entire internet for Kit. Not that he isn't talked about as much as Joe. Though he doesn't post as much as Joe or do as much to talk about. If Kit posted a thirst trap you'd best believe we'd be talking about him more. And the whole issue is downplaying Joe bullying but throwing a fit about anything else in the world, even Nick Nelson gets more defense from that person than Joe.

And I hope nobody is actually paying for more than one account

R352 Boy, I have been on DL for probably longer than you have been alive.

Seriously. Like, seriously, is this happening again.

R350 God forbid there is one tiny corner of the HS fandom where Joe isn't treated like the also-ran to Kit's starring role. How ever have you been coping on here with these mean bitchy gays who want to eat Joe out slightly more than they do Kit? The fucking nerve of us.

Go create a separate chat on reddit if you’re that triggered. Everyone here pays, you have no authority.

R359 I’m tired of your over sensitive ass. You’re obsessed with checking post histories but you’ve never mentioned all the times I’ve replied to a troll on here that was shitting on Joe. You have never mentioned the many times I have complimented him or engaged honestly in conversations. You are a miserable, pathetic loser and I am done letting you walk all over here like you own the place. This is NOT a private group. Get the fuck out or deal with it

Oh my fucking god, this is like groundhogs day. Shut the fuck up, everyone, seriously.

R362 praying for leaks to come through, just so there’s something substantial to talk about

R363 at this point I’m praying for a brain aneurysm or something, this is mind numbing.

Maybe everyone sticks to talking about the boy you like. There will be more guys talking about Joe but at least no one will get upset over supposedly snide comments.

R361 I literally have no idea what you're on about, I post here maybe three times a week and can't be arsed to check post history. I was just responding to your ridiculous sulk about Kit not being treated fairly here when it's obvious to anyone with a brain that Kit is well liked and well covered here, it's just that Joe focused on slightly more which is a refreshing change from the rest of the internet where you're not allowed to mutter that Joe is a star in his own right without Kit immediately being brought up as a response.

R365 you seriously brought all this back up again because despite your apparently advanced age you don’t hav enough common sense to leave well enough alone. So thanks but no need for your useless “wisdom”

Anyway, forgive me for prolonging this argument. This is literally the first and last time I lose brain cells arguing with the human embodiment of a pair of scales on DL.

R366 You would actually have a rea meltdown of there were more Kit stans here. Because if they started acting the way you act about mild comments, trust me, this thread would be even more insufferable. And Joe is only now posting a lot. He was basically radio silent when he filmed Agatha. This idea that he gives more content is not true. You care more about his content and that’s fine.

Seriously shut the fuck up. This is so annoying.

R367 This problem has been going on for weeks. I proposed something to help if you have a better idea please share. Other than kicking people out because good luck with that!

R371 here’s my better idea, shut up and don’t bring back up drama that’s dead and gone. Anyway you said you’d be off this thread soon until s3. Please do. Bye

R372 Mate, stop telling people to leave the thread. You leave. Weirdo.

I literally feel like I’m in a simulation. Why can’t people shut the FUCK UP

R367 You started this whole thing over an ugly troll so shut the fuck up.

them continuously posting about gaining followers instead of delivering what those followers came for is funny.

R366 yeah the threads were more dead then too. Was also pre-breakup and Kit and Joe didn't see each other for half a year. We talked more about Kit then since he was going out. The only thing we had Joe related was his weekend amusement park outings and people trying to cope with the ex never visiting

He’s so funny

R378 can always count on him for quality content

R378 Nick and Charlie fucking in S3 confirmed.

Don’t think queer men need media training for joke comments but ok.

First the fraus were saying that Kit was doing ballet in that one picture, now they’re struggling to figure out what Joe’s comment means. I can’t do this anymore.

R378 Joe is a Charlie/Nick AND Charlie/Tao truther, confirmed.

R381 At this point, pretty sure Joe just makes a lot fans uncomfortable because they are homophobic cunts

Someone said S4 would be confirmed after the strike but we haven't heard anything. Would they usually announce a fourth season this early on?

R385 I think if they're renewing it, they'd wait to announce it on a special occasion. The S3 wrap announcement, an appearance like CCXP if they make Joe and Kit do random press rounds again, something like that.

R385 I think they'd save the renewal news if it is for a later date. S3 isn't coming out for ages and they obviously couldn't negotiate anything until now

R381 These comments are always wild — how scandalous for an adult gay man to make gay jokes about his gay character having gay sex! — but extra wild in the wake of Kit's pose in that group pic from Leila. Hopefully they take the lead from the cast and stop the pearl-clutching by the time S3 comes out.

could be filming that countertop scene in Charlie’s kitchen any moment this week

R389 Explains the wetness.

Not saying this is the worlds best edit, but they both sell the adoring looks and chemistry so well

Joe crumbs

Hope for his sake it’s not rhea. Bitchy bug eyed twat she is

looks too tall to be Rhea and with a lot of imagination that could be a mullet, just gonna guess Kizzy.

R383 joe is getting DPed by Kit and will confirmed

The imagery for that is everything to me r395

I know the series isn't the best work in the world however, I'm glad Joe and Kit are not publicly disparaging the show like some other actors.

R397 Movies as an escape, who would have thought? He’s never come off as particularly bright to me, and God knows he tries.

R397 Part of why I'm rooting for Kit (beyond him seeming to be a great person and being extremely talented) is that he's the only one of the "Netflix boyfriends" (Elordi, Centineo, etc.) that doesn't annoy the fuck out of me.

R388 Meanwhile the YR fans get it

Apropos of that Elordi quote, HS definitely isn't the greatest show in the world but it's probably in the upper part of the feel-good, YA tier. The critical response, the CAF Emmy sweep, the RTS award, Alice's BAFTA nom, Olivia Colman being part of the cast, stuff like that. It's a pretty good springboard for Joe and Kit.

Yeah, I hope they’re still proud of the series/their performances even if the show is pretty childish and prudish.

The tweet pearl clutching about Joe’s comment has been deleted. Did they get read for filth?

Bel attended Amybeth‘s birthday.. didn’t know she also hangs around that crowd.

R404 didn’t someone post that Bel is in a relationship with someone in that group?

R405 She’s also friends with a lot of them like Emily and Sam

need this energy from him again on tiktok

It seems like Bel is friends with everyone. Her popping up at Lego's party was totally unexpected to me.

R402 Honestly, the show probably means more to them on a personal level than most shows do to most actors.

R407 I was wondering if that was going to resurface today, so funny.

r407 every new thing i discover about Joe makes me like him even more. in every aspect

I truly thought Joe had posted ‘smack my arse like a drum’ and then immediately deleted it - it basically disappeared straight away and you can tell because it only got 400 likes. It looks like it was just that weird insta thing where it gets buried. It’s second after Tobie’s comment now. Thanks to Twitter for the update

R410 Still not showing up for me, Instagram hates me.

R410 still don’t see it for whatever reason

R411 it does mate

you can sort by verified now and even then I don’t see it

Maybe it just loves me?

R415 I wonder if it's getting caught in a filter because of the use of "ass" or something.

Feeling pretty blessed ngl

Joe commented

he responded

must be bored as fuck if he’s going through his tags, unless it’s a regular thing. also not the account being a bash fan one

Switched accounts, it's there for me now but not under Tobie's account. Had to scroll down a little.

R418 He was what 14 in this? It's weird that fans would go looking for old stuff like this.

Absolutely hilarious that Joe is so unbothered he’s responding to a fan page literally named Bash Croft with the pic prior to this post being bash and Charlie. Bash will literally never be there

goddamn - not him seeing a Bash account and then t responding to something he posted at 15.

r422 from his response he really doesn’t think it’s a bug deal. it’s not like it’s anything controversial anyway

Are they done filming? Or is it really that boring on set ?

R426 They're done, the permits are to 7 PM every day.

R425 not guy you’re responding to but it’s more the fans are weirdos for bringing this shit back up. It’s from an old TikTok account that he deleted altogether and he was really young.

Still funny that bash and co are so petty that that Rachel Kiki creature who idt even knew bash until post breakup blocked DJL, but joe himself is so unbothered that he’ll reply to a fanpages posting bash and Charlie together

Will today

I wonder if they still have their diners and game night after work. Probably not since everyone has their own place now.

R425 He knows he'll bring attention to it by commenting on it, so he's probably okay but it has to be a bit weird.

R430 He's hot enough that there's a chance I would also react like that to him smiling at me.

R431 I'm guessing they do when they have extremely early call times and stay in their Slough accommodations. They were obviously all more than happy to fuck around at Lyme Regis.

R431 maybe whenever they’re staying at the filming accommodations.. and maybe they‘ve moved on to more x-rated post filming activities now..

I agree with this tweet.

Hasn’t this person harassed DJL before?

Replying to myself, they have.

If I had a tenner for every time a Heartstopper fan randomly wrote a paragraph to try and cancel another fan for absolutely fuck all…

DJL is an insanely respectful fan site. The strays they catch are so weird

I hope they keep ignoring that person, they look like they're desperate for attention.

Half convinced that this person is a compulsive liar trying to get the fandom to follow her, but we'll see if anything comes of this.

maybe that fb group again? I‘m not in it

R439 the use of the Kit full name is what makes me lean trying to get fan attention.

Just checked the group, not seeing anything there.

would be something random to make up and sounds like them but who knows.

i mean if it was real im sure someone else would have said something by now

Throwing upthread - DJL just reports the truth. Joe said he doesn’t like his friends and family being followed and looked into I don’t remember a single thing about old videos. If he was worried about it he wouldn’t have commented - it’s not like he doesn’t know DJL exists

R445 Yeah, if he felt a way about it I think he would've DMed the fan and asked them to take it down. He's obviously more than aware that people find his random comments, even when he's commenting with the Charlie account.

These twerps keep treating the cast like chaste imbeciles for some reason.

R439 They tweeted again and are ignoring the people asking about it, money is on clout chaser.

The stuff around calling Joe a twink and all his funny gay comments on Twitter - just say you don’t understand gay men and you don’t want to. Hopefully Kit has only eased off on Insta because he can’t be bothered and not because he was sick of people replying that he should basically be less horny and to behave himself

R449 I think his last fun post was the Tobie "I‘m so horny" story and there was an overwhelming reaction of "JAIL!!" across all platforms, so. I do think he’s mostly just focused on work rn but it definitely hasn’t kept him from being active on finsta.

R450 Fans keep complaining but they’re doing this to themselves by being puritans freaks.

R450 the fans are so immature. Meanwhile, I’m immature because I’m gagging for him to post some kind of post work out candid with a sweaty Joe. Maybe I should be more understanding

R451 yeah they did it to themselves, so now all they get is old photoshoot reposts and "weekend in edinburgh" (still hot ofc)

R452 maybe he’ll be gracious and we’ll get that for Christmas

It’s been how many years now of the fans fucking themselves out of content?

They’re still going. How is that DLJ’s problem?

R455 bffr just say you hate DJL and find any reason to try to shit on him. Then maybe explore why the only account you have a problem with is run by a gay man…

That mermaid account caught wind that Joe was going through his tags and re-tagged him in a bunch of her old mermaid shit.

R457 she is so unhinged about Kit is funny

R455 I'm sure DJL doesn't care, but I find it pretty disappointing that the Joe stans on Twitter reap the benefits of that account but don't ever bother sticking up for him. With the Bash stans shit yesterday, it was just that one account that I don't think is even a Joe stan, the painisathorn one. No one is sticking up for them now. It's crickets every single time someone tries shit with them.

Not this bitch joining in.

Not to harp on it too much but Joe’s actually said he hates being called ugly online, but where are they when that happens? Silent

R459 Nah, I agree with you. I also don’t get what the big fucking deal about the video is. Being anti-David Cameron is commendable.

That fan should just delete that TikTok honestly.

Honestly I’d roll my eyes but deal with the “DJL delete this” comments if half these people weren’t the ones cancelling joe and posting snide photos of just Will, Kit, and tobie with “my unproblematic favs”, Kit, will, and Yaz as “the big three” etc. whenever they decided bash sucked and that no one else needed to be accountable for being friends with him but Joe was accountable as his boyfriend

Also, pretty sure that R418 posted before DJL and it's apparently fine when a female fans posts.

R464 they’re dickheads and arseholes, truly.

R465 always. The rate of homophobia in the fandom kills me. Giggling every time Kit does something even remotely queer, shitting on the fan account run by a gay man, interpreting words they don’t understand as insulting, and never apologising or deleting anything. As long as you are in that 90% female in group you are allowed to say and do whatever you want

Random but it’s also funny to me that bash is commenting “MISS YOU” “MISS YOU TOO MY ANGEL” on rheas post like they aren’t very capable of seeing one another on the weekends given how close slough and London are. He saved his birthday stories for Kit but not her in his new highlight, introduced Amybeth and Emily and that whole crowd to one another recently, invited multiple friends to Finland where she didn’t make the cut. If you actually missed her so much you’d think it would be more reflected in his actions, but she’s a moron

Even in low quality, the chemistry and that slutty little waist are so good

R467 I think what he actually misses is seeing her because it meant he had a job.

R468 Kit’s big ol hands on Joe’s waist. Love that scene. I’m glad Joe’s work outs have involved getting more defined and not bigger. He’s still got a tiny waist

R469 very nicely done

R470 As long as he wants to be. I'm not a fan of our community's obsession with twink bodies. Joe looks great regardless. If it's skinny great, if not, great too.

R472 tbh I think Twink bodies still get shat on a lot by gays online. Not sure what the problem is being attracted to slim men, but you do you

R473 No problem. I have no qualms about skinny guys. I was referencing the expectations that many guys feel to stay skinny. I've seen my share of gays shit on bigger guys online and on apps. It's okay if you don't agree.

They keep saying Joe mentioned he doesn’t like his old stuff being shared online, yet nobody provided the ss or any proof. Was anyone around back then and has a ss or explain it? I’m about to create an acc to defend DJL at this point.

R414 How do you accommodate comments on Instagram, I already searched and it won't let me

Joe's always been a cute twink/skinny so that's his natural body weight. Only Kit got bulkier for the show which makes the trolls here call him fat and ugly even though he's still pretty slim.

R474 ah gotcha. I know what you mean. I actually had your meaning totally wrong. I thought you meant Joe should bulk up (reading at work always a danger). Expect Joe, at his current age, finds it hard to put on weight but easy to build muscle.

R474 I get your point and agree in the sense that I hope neither kit nor Joe (nor the other guys, Tobie, will, etc) feel pressure to change their bodies, but I think so long as people avoid actually saying “he better stay like this” and stuff like that, in this context praising his body is good and in some ways uniquely good. He’s entering a superhero space as the first gay main character. He’s got a killer body but a very unconventional one for the genre. I would bet money 99.9% of the bodyshaming he’s going to get will be making fun of him for not being Chris Evan’s or hemsworth ripped with a large dash of homophobia. So with all that in mind, I think it’s good for him to see praise especially from other men about how hot his thinner build is. Anyway I think the leanness is natural. The guy were pretty sure is his dad looked really slim too

Joe only ever expressed that it was weird that people were finding stuff from his friends and families accounts. That was an old TikTok that HE posted, not the same thing.

R475 He said something like that, but don't quote me.

He responded to it so it's not a huge deal. More weird a dumb ass Bash fan is using Joe for attention.

R481 Yeah, I remember him saying he doesn't like when fans repost old stuff but it was so long ago. I don't have a ss anyway he commented so people need to let it go.

I think the thing that weirded him out and sent his family to private were the baby pics. Which the fans post the time!!

Honestly yeah Joe might’ve at some point said something like that, but as always this is context dependent. If DJL just dug up the old video and posted might be weird. If joes comment to the fan was “pls delete this” and they posted it, not okay. But I think they (and I) read his comment as joking or cringing at his younger self, not actually wanting the video gone. Either way if they just go after someone, attack the fan account who added weird text about how Joe is faking his voice, not DJL

R479 Joe's not for those people. He's for people who understand, which I'm assuming he gets.

Anyway this tweet made me laugh. Kudos to the 1k people who book marked that picture. Hope it serves you well

R485 well sure but it’s hardly going to hurt to see a lot of tweets praising his body instead of just shitty marvel bros mocking it, even if he knows intellectually they are dickheads. That’s my point.

Well, I agree. It's now it's our job to thirst after him publicly so he doesn't see the bro comments

Good thing they're not on twitter

The way none of these losers can pull up any evidence is killing me.

R489 exactly the same shit with the ‘don’t sexualise’ comment of Kit’s. No evidence at all - just thirst traps he posted at 17, which you would think would nullify the puritanical nonsense but never did. They’re all so fucking boring

What did I do to deserve this coming up on my FYP?

R489 Idiots, the lot of them.

R491 Honest to God, I think him and Bash are a perfect match as long as he doesn't get a career, which he seems in no danger of doing.

Final thing on the vid because I’m being boring but if there is one take away, going after DJL isn’t worth your time. It’s not some 2K account anymore. Unless you have an actual point you’re just going to piss people off for clout chasing (which is exactly what they’re doing) and trying to stir up shit.

R491 I love Troye and this makes me like the song less

R492 it is genuinely funny that bash stans are clearly trying to shade Joe by saying charlie is a much better match. I fully agree for much less flattering to bash reasons

R494 I can’t believe they used to date and be attached at the hips. Now when I see an old photo I feel weird.

R491 him replying to the same girl who runs the bash fan account he followed. Please tell me more about how he’s not clout chasing, bash fans

how, all of a sudden are old tiktoks from Joe’s deleted account popping up now though ? i get the David Cameron but i saw more a while back. the Monk one and one with his friends one. not complaining obviously but just curious

R496 Imagine picking Bash to clout chase with though. Should have tried sliding into Kit's DMs for months instead

R498 Kit stopped liking most Conan posts when he got joe back, Charlie would not have interested him. When his main dark haired twink is back in his life no other versions are needed

Why is Charlie catching strays? It’s not his fault he has bad taste. We’ve all been there.

R497 at a guess as soon as he was cast people were downloading them. Thats how all the baby photos were found

R500 it’s the couple of ex’s with proximity to fame and the thirsty TikTok. He’s a bit of an idiot but if boy wants to be a semi famous trophy husband then fine. I just hope he finds it with someone better than Bash. Are any of those Beckham kids gay or single?

R491 dancing is not his calling

R500 I mean if you start following your “famous” (being generous) boyfriends fan page, make tiktoks whose only purpose is displaying a bracelet with his name, and date three fame adjacent men back to back primarily reposting pics of you with sally field, im going to call you a clout chaser. I’ve been very nice in other ways. I’ve said he’s better looking than bash and actually a very gifted visual artist. He’s just also desperate to be famous and I don’t find that particularly appealing. My hard doesn’t exactly bleed for a rich kid living off family money getting called a little cringe

r501 ah. that explains why only old fan pages post them

R495 yeah, I was looking at his tags because someone here mentioned the mermaid girl was tagging him. Apart from the fact there are a shamefully low amount of posts of him shirtless tagged, it was weird to see him in posts with Bash. If you must post that you miss them or whatever, have the courtesy not to tag him

R500 Hey I've said free Charlie many times. I do think he's a clout chaser, though just think it's funny of all the people he picked it was Bash who isn't going to get him invited to the SAG awards or anything much more than whatever Harry Lambert can swing

R505 I could get behind a ‘Free Charlie’ joke

R505 I have a hard time thinking of the words clout chaser and Bash together. I guess Bash is famous, technically.

He's not really, though his proximity to Joe and Kit and HS in general made it appear he had some fame

R507 no one said he was a smart clout chaser. Hopefully he’ll trade up when he realises Bash is a shit who isn’t going to make him famous

Charlie is now showing up in my algorithm. Not sure why he made an identical tiktok three hours after the first but glad he’s having a good time

R499 If Kit is this devoted to Joe now, imagine what he'd be like if they were actually dating. Probably insufferable.

R510 I find it hilarious that he's popping up for more than one of us now, especially when (in my case) Bash doesn't even pop up for me.

Last couple of days if anyone wants to throw a vote to Kit and Yaz.

He popped up for me a long time ago but hasn't since then

Being at a birthday party with a trans person=trans positive KING. I obviously don’t think bash is transphobic but the bar is so low for these morons. Next up he’ll shake hands with a black guy and they’ll talk about how he’s ending racism

R514 I think it'd be one thing if this was a trans fan feeling validated by their fave, but this is just some stan that Bash is a good person for deigning to be friends with those downtrodden queers.

R514 She went to Lego's bday party, don't think it's that serious

*stan that thinks Bash is a good person

R515 also it’s not even bash’s birthday. Like seriously being in the same room as someone is suddenly being an advocate for them? Pretty condescending anyway to applaud cis people for valuing trans rights but especially when it’s this tenuous.

They’re also writing fanfic about how the fandom is gonna cancel Bel for being around bash. Ladies, we don’t care. We dislike rhea because she’s being a cunt about it, that’s all. We have no issue with Kit or formerly tobie being friendly with him still. Bel has no issues with joe and seems like a sweet girl

R518 Unlike Rhea, Bel was never super close to Joe. They are all friendly coworkers but that’s it and it’s fine. Rhea wished Joe a happy birthday on her stories and seemed close to him during the S1 filming. That’s why her turn around is weird.

R519 I mean I agree with thatbut I would say it’s also that rhea has actively been a dick. If she kept interacting with joes posts the same and just commented “love you”, “miss you”, and seemed closer to bash I wouldn’t care. For instance idt Maia has commented on any of joes posts but has commented on two of bash’s, however she’s continued liking joes posts and hasn’t made shady “hot girl summer” comments to bash, hasn’t posted a s2 photodump that is a bash homage and reluctantly includes one group pic with joe, etc so no one cares or thinks she’s shady. What bash fans don’t get is no one cares if people are closer to bash. It’s how dickish they are about it. Connor being closer to bash, fine. Connor refusing to publicly acknowledge joe including for a birthday post he was tagged in while hanging out with and nonstop posting bash and Charlie, shitty. Rhea being closer to bash, fine. Rhea being a cunt to joe, not fine.

Just chiming in again that I am fascinated by Rhea’s relationship with Kit. Does he actively avoid her? He likes seemingly absolutely everyone. Then following up to agree she’s a dick to Joe and he deserves better. But also, the Kit thing, so weird. And, she’s a cunt to Joe

R521 I think the Kit thing is interesting because each in isolation isn’t a huge flag but both together is. Her rubbing just Kit the wrong way, unusual because he’s really easygoing and nice but fine. Her seeming to turn joe off with her post breakup behavior, unusual because he’s been so mature and laidback, but fine. But both of them, probably two of the most laidback welcoming guys (seriously, every new cast member tends to name drop those two as extremely kind and supportive), both being distant from her? Telling

R521 They’ve never clicked I think. Even in the season 1 vlogs, Kit would mingle with Yaz, Kizzy, Corinna but never Rhea. I don’t think they have a real issue just not close irl.

We're not the only ones that get bad vibes from Rhea, by the way. The gossip subreddit is also not very fond of her.

R521 I don't think he actively avoids her. I think they're probably friendly enough work colleagues that didn't click beyond that. They seemed fine enough in that season 2 BTS video and Rhea mentioned that she learned a lot from him in an interview.

I think what’s funniest about Kit not liking rhea is at first I gave her some benefit of the doubt in that she is a super extra dramatic personality, and while many (me included) find it grating it’s not actually a personality flaw. But then he clearly really likes Bradley even if they’re not close, and our boy brad is nothing if not extra. We’ve all seen Mr. cellophane. So she just is generally annoying, it’s not just the extra thing

Is this trolling or are they serious?

R526 Trolling, the #confirmed gives it away.

R523 all true. It’s just weird that Kit gets alongs with random parts of the crew but not one of his more significant scene partners. Re her learning from him I’d say just doing scenes with him was probably a learning experience considering how much he had done and how talented he is.

R528 not to denigrate how good Kit is but I’ll also say rhea could learn something from literally everyone on set and I reluctantly include bash there. Girl is shit.

R527 No, I meant the anon. Why are they saying that?

R525 I had the same thought and was kind of expecting Kit to be friendly to Bradley, but not much beyond that. Imagine my surprise when Bradley got a cute birthday post with that piggyback picture.

R530 Because they're shit-stirring. Don't fall for it.

R531 he also said, along with kizzy, that Bradley is one of the funniest on set. Brads commitment to giving us gorgeous joe content and his obvious little crush endears me anyway. I’d absolutely buy a cameo of him singing mr cellophane

R526 clearly answering the stupider anon they are getting. Do people truly think Joe and Kit are fighting? What do they want from them? If Joe wanted to deflect attention away from deleting the Bash tt he absolutely smashed it. My pet theory is still that because he met Elton’s friends on the weekend he felt weird about having it up

R524 He seems like a really good scene partner to have based on what everyone has said about working with him. I get why Will called him the leader of the company of actors on the show.

R534 good, probably correct, theory but I’ll raise you a theory that Kit barebacked him while he was wearing the hoodie or it was laid out on his bed and he wants to keep that lovely nsfw memory between them and not TikTok denizens. Again can anyone prove I’m wrong

I obviously think absolutely nothing's gone down between them, but I also think Tobie just wouldn't allow that to happen.

R532 I get that there’s no content but why start shit up? It’s weird.

R537 not OP on that particular fantasy but I’d add that Tobie would have been there

R535 he was also, aside from bash who was there for 2 min in s1, by far the most experienced tbf and I think probably just knew shit like what marks meant, certain terms behind the scenes, stuff like that. I’d guess it’s all more “egalitarian” s2 and s3 with more experience.

I’ll also say while everyone in the show gets some bad lines because… this is Alice, it’s really joe and Kit who get the bulk of the weird monologues and I think in s1 especially were the only ones who lifted them and delivered them convincingly. (Some others have really stepped it up amazingly s2). Kits long talk with rhea on the park bench s1, absolutely bizarre monologue on paper, he made it compelling. Charlie’s long s2 speech to Ben really worked because of how joe did it, not because of the writing. So I think in that sense they could teach many of the others a lot.

R537 tobie wouldn’t allow what, Kit to fuck joe wearing a hoodie? I think tobie would be all for it

R539 R541 Damn, we all got our wires crossed. I meant that Tobie wouldn't allow Joe and Kit to have a falling out.

R542 oh absolutely. You never want discord in the throuple. So awkward at bedtime

R542 That’s a good point. I wonder if the boys (Tobie or Kit) tried to get Bash and Joe back together at one point. Especially since Tobie was very close to both of them since day 1.

R542 oh gotcha. I was like damn don’t be unfair to tobie, he’d give them the lube

R544 I think it would depend on what the reason for the break-up was and if it went down in a nuclear way, but my gut is telling me no. Do you guys remember when the more optimistic shippers on here thought that Kit was going to fix their relationship when they both popped up in NYC? Hilarious.

R546 I do not remember that - wow. A stretch even for here

Ymmv but I think whatever went down between joe and bash was bad enough that the guys didn’t really try to reunite them, especially after they saw joe and presumably got his side of it and ESPECIALLY after pride

R546 I remember the delusion when people clocked that hoodie on Joe. People were trying to say OF Nick was just a friend and Bash would be fine with it. Tbh I understand why people believed that. The breakup came outta nowhere (for us) and usually people don’t end a long term relationship without rekindling at least one time. Everyone thought they would have angry sex while filming season 3. Crazy now to think about

R549 I really tried to sell an OF guy as ‘just a mate’ to myself. Around the time I looked him up properly and became knowledgeable about his arse eating skills I gave up. Nick seems fine but his dick, enthusiasm and occupation make him a perfect rebound

R549 The blindsiding is why I get that people entertained the idea of an open relationship. It didn't make sense if you really thought about it, but it was at least less delusional than arguing that OF Nick was Joe's new BFF.

The platonic stuff as soon as hoodiegate was figured out was nonsense. Open felt weird but I entertained the possibility that bash was going straight from his play into another project or something and they decided to open it. His bitchy creepy unemployed sister unfollowing joe the next day clarified it all. Funny that both patterns of behaviour have pervaded. On joes side, processing, moving on, living his life. On bash’s side, getting other people involved and being angry and vengeful.

R552 I’ve had smarter moments

It’s crazy to me that Bash has been with Dollar General Charlie for, what, 5 months? And is still pissed enough to unfollow Tobie.

R553 we’ve all made our mistakes. I said with total sincerity after the breakup that people were being too mean to bash, he was a good guy, and they could be friends or at least friendly eventually. Now I can’t stand the fucker. But again this should be something bash fans take account of but refuse to, that plenty of the people who hate bash don’t hate him because they broke up, they hate him (which tbf I don’t, just dislike and find to be a shitty person) because of how he acted after the breakup

R555 Tbf a lot of them hate him because it’s a trend. They’ve hated him since he played Ben and said he “felt” for Ben like any actor would. I think Joe stans were nicer to him after the break up but when everything went down, no one care about him anymore. Funny but I follow this girl on instagram and she was one of the OG fans of the show. She used to get a lot of interactions from Joe, Bash , Alice back in the days when they were interacting with fans. After the break up I noticed she unfollowed Bash and stopped liking his pictures but she’s still following everyone else in the cast.

R556 I said plenty of people. Aka basically every joe fan who used to support him because Joe loved him. Plenty of people I used to see in the trenches for him who now clesrly can’t stand him. Not talking about the people who always hated him and used whatever they disliked in his actions as an excuse to treat joe like shit for dating him while unironically saying his close friends in the cast (Kit and will mostly) would never and did nothing wrong.

Anyway as I’ve said before, I don’t think all the shit he gets is fair but not he flip side he’s way more popular than he would’ve been had he not ride joes coattails for two years. so my heart doesn’t mourn for a rich white kid with two mill followers from about 15 min of screentime who treats his very sweet ex like shit.

R554 makes me feel bad for Charlie tbh. Not really all that much, but still. He's doing all the work just for his bf to still be pissy about his ex

R558 his connection to sally fields son still mystifies me so who knows how all in on bash he is

Bash always gave off rancid vibes. The longer he was around, the more reasons he gave people not to like him. The break-up with Joe and its aftermath were the last straws.

R557 I mean unpopular opinion but even though Bash is shit I don’t think he deserved the hate he got, especially on Twitter. And I mean in general. I don’t understand how this fandom is supposedly full of queer people but did everything to try and cancel the queer cast over nothing.

R561 I don’t know how that is discordant with anything I said. I said outright there were people who always hated him. I just said that bash fans obsessively claim people either hate him for no reason, or that they’re crazy joe fans who hate him reflexively. I think a lot of the people who dislike him now dislike him because of how he acted, and they conveniently ignore that because they don’t want to admit that he’s not their perfect sunshine boy and has been a dick to joe.

My point was even if a lot of his haters are that way for irrational reasons, given he’s a cunt anyway, I don’t really care. He got literally millions more followers than he would’ve gotten without joe anyway, and now treats Joe like shit, so given that I’m not going to cry for him that a few hundred Twitter people think he’s a dick for Harry Potter.

R561 did you mean to reply to another comment or something? That comment said twice that some people always hated him and that not all the shit he gets is fair. So not sure I get your response

R561 nah, I don’t think that’s totally unpopular. There were a number of ways he didn’t cover himself in glory when he and Joe were together, particularly the Emmy’s and his poorly thought out response to the HP game but the ‘fans’ were absolute dickheads about him. Everything he did also made Joe a target for absolutely no reason.

R563 I was responding to the last part where they said they didn’t care anymore and didn’t feel bad about Bash. I was simply disagreeing and said I do still feel bad in a way. I don’t like seeing young queer men get bullied online over nothing (most of the hate he got was over preconceived malice). But it’s fine if people don’t agree.

I mean as the person you’re disagreeing with, it’s fine that you disagree. But again look at the context of what I’m saying. He has what, a few hundred people on twitter who strongly dislike him for reasons unrelated to the breakup? But he also has 2.1 million IG followers with a role closer to Cormac or rhea’s in size. End of the day he did extremely well for himself off the coattails of his much more talented sweeter boyfriend. I’m not going to cry for him that some people hate him. If he was a better person maybe I’d care, but I don’t.

They really sell these intimate tender little moments. Kits big hand on joes face is so hot. Joe always makes Charlie look like he can’t believe his luck, it’s honestly pretty moving

Is this Will’s little brother?

R568 I have no idea, but this picture is so funny.

Connors new short film does not sound good.

R570 sounds like Nick Nelson with chronic depression

R570 Patrick should produce it then. New actor for him to obsess over

Joe is so gay. Love him. Guessing he took tobie and/or some of the others with him last night.

Tobie - they both look great but Joe looks particularly fucking hot

They’re both looking great. Joe looking tiny and fuckable as always. I really don’t get how Kit resists ragdolling him

Truly so sad for joe that he’s hanging out with tobie, Kit, and Dylan and Olivia instead of getting to join in on this stuff :/ tough one

R576 a bunch of losers

Has she even been away for 24 hours? lol

R575 I think Jie us too busy fucking Tobie all night. They look good. Where is the JoeTobie truther? He might be on to something

I'm here. Tobie and Joe summoned me awake at 4:30am. They both look good. Tobie is so slim now.

Tobie‘s glow up really is quite something. Like someone pointed out before, Bash‘s fate in reverse.

R581 Tobie is looking great and even more comfortable in himself but I think he suits the little bit of softness in his face

What did Joe archive on IG this time?

Gay times

Why the fuck did Joe like Lego's most recent post?

R585 chill. Joe is unbothered. Saw the post scrolling, liked it, carried on.

he usually likes those kind of posts, there just hasn’t been one in a while. no big deal

it’s more significant that he stopped commenting on them.

I incorrectly thought this bullet had been dodged. I’m now expecting 8 viral tweets about how ugly they are.

The fact that the people in the comments and quotes have things like “problematic” “unapologetic” etc in the names or bios says everything about how quirky and cool they think they are. Nah, you’re just a cunt.

Genuinely funny to me that the twitter girlies are just not willing to understand/accept the meaning behind Joe's comment. Charlie spends the day thinking about/spending time with his extremely hot boyfriend and his extremely hot best friend, where's the ambiguity in Joe announcing this makes him extremely horny??

Sorry, fucked up the link.

R591 I'm kind of conflicted because not sure he wasn't just calling Charlie lame

From the person that goes to school by Charlie’s house.

R593 I don't feel like wet is a common word for Gen Z in terms of meaning lame? I haven't heard it being used in that context for ages.

Who knows, just saying for once I don't blame people for not getting what he was saying. Kit is acting like a ballerina on the other hand...

Saying so wet has definitely been in reference to being horny whether jokingly/exaggeratedly or genuine for a long ass time, don’t know when it was last used as an insult either.

Speaking of wetness, I commend Netflix for using this still.

R598 A lying cunt

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