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Lol at people saying he just liked his post and moved on. I get it though

This is a TobieJoe thread. JoeKit fans please stand down. They are currently beefing

I wonder what they do all day when waiting to film. There must be lots of waiting around. You would think they would all be online all day. The internet is v distracting and entertaining

Maybe they all have fake accounts on all platforms.

Joe, Tobie and Will were liking posts recently, so they probably just lurk around

Someone saw Kit on set yesterday, won't link it for reasons though apparently they got the street blocked off for a week. The girl wasn't brave enough to ask him for a pic.

R2 joe on his second cast breakup in six months. Thoughts n prayers. Kit went to Edinburgh to console himself just like bash flew to France for Charlie thanks to slutty heartbreaking joe.

R3 they absolutely lurk in their finstas most of the day is my guess. Maybe they just scroll through that mermaid girl’s posts for comedy

They all seem pretty into the British GQ posts for MOTY 2023. I wonder if they're invited to the ceremony tomorrow (or if they'd even be able to make it).

R1 well yeah. To say it’s anything more would be like the people who said Kit liking some recent Maia posts was a sign they’d hook up again. Seems unlikely, think joe and Kit are highly undramatic exes for lack of a better word, and like with OF Nick or Maia we may see an occasional post like or something from joe but not much more than that. Not going to see a like sans comment for the first time in weeks the day after joe spends the night in London hanging out with tobie and after tal has whined nonstop about how single he is and posted a variety of sad selfies and think they’re fucking again on that basis.

Joe's just bored. He's liked other things today.

Anyway, even if it's not a JoeKit thread we can always remember the past

What an incredibly bland start to a thread. I'll fix it.

R4 that‘s already going around twitter anyway. Also 9 days at Charlie’s house is a lot. hope the reporter goes soon

R3 I'd assume they're not just sitting around and are filming interior shots.

R8 with nothing but love to tobie, will, hot loewe guy, and all the other beautiful men in their lives, it’ll always be Joe and Kit to me.

R11 If they're adapting This Winter, there might even be a shooting day that's just entirely Charlie's family, so possibly new casting for Charlie's grandparents.

We really need new Joe/Kit gifs/pictures

Tobie just liked this tweet. TobieJoe is real lol

Tobie liked this tweet, which means he's probably on set laughing his ass off with Joe about people thinking they're dating.

R17 having a good laugh

I thought he liked the original tweet shading bad hair gel, though I'll take it

it’s a reply to a quote of DJLs tweet, they must be really bored if he’s going through all the reactions like this

It's nice that he flies under the radar enough that he can still name search himself without running into abuse like the guys would.

Is Tobie’s hair curly naturally?

R23 Looks like it

R18 Probably laughing at the idea of two bottoms with no top. Unless…

R25 ymmv but tobie strikes me as a vers bottom. Bottom preference but for the right twink… anyway any sane man except a strict bottom would be willing to switch it up for joe lbr

Tobie likes too many twink posts to be a strict bottom

I just remembered that Tobie liked this tweet. Poor Bradley getting left out when he was the one that was actually proposed to. #JusticeForBradley

R28 Bradley is trying to get into this situation as best he can but worst case based on the photos he takes he is a joetobie shipper. He should join DL.

Low-key need their next projects announced already.

still filming the birthday

love that they’re now saying their teacher told them to go to the set. I get it tho with with all the moralists attacking them yesterday

This fan is only semi-useful, someone find Daisy.

yeah they’re not gonna give us much after yesterday. there are more fans there. some messaged Miriam, so probably the ones who also went to Nick‘s house. but they all keep content to themselves cause twitter is boring.

R5 Idk about that joke

Am I crazy for thinking this is about him playing Falstaff in Henry IV?

Why does this mf'er post this same goddamn post every goddamn day? Blocked every time. Jesus.

R35 what’s wrong with the joke then. It’s just making fun of bash fans for their dramatics. Quite obviously Kit and joe never broke up and their friendship is more than fine. They literally hung out last Friday

R38 Comparing Bash’s weirdo behavior with Kit is a choice.

R39 you have to be fucking kidding me. It’s a joke, Jesus Christ.

An obvious joke about Joe having a second cast breakup needs to be policed because it might be unfair to kit but a tweet calling Joe ugly is just trolling and shouldn’t be discussed here. Fascinating mind.

What’s the funny part of that “joke”? That Kit is a loser like Bash after the fake break up? Yeah, not funny. R41 Didn’t you blow up the last thread over that reply? You’re one to talk

In somewhat fashion news, it looks like Ami wiped the campaign with noah schnaap of sm. They should have gone with Joe

R42 not engaging with you because now that the above person has pinpointed who you are it’s clear how futile it would be and I want to respect the others on the thread, not put them through your idiocy.

I’m forwarding this tweet to Felicity and Holly.

I normally stay out of this shit but to take the joke that is very obviously that Joe is a slutty vixen who ruins mens lives and decide it’s somehow an insult to Kit is a level of weird i cannot understand. If you’re gonna jump down other peoples throats for overreacting to shit which honestly is probably fair sometimes you have to learn to take a joke and stop projecting.

R45 I think felicity has been great about this stuff recently. Cropping Kit’s shirt for JW Anderson was masterful. But holly needs to step it up. Tighter and sluttier.

R45 Fuck, he's hot.

R47 Yeah, definitely feels like we’re closer to that with Kit than with Joe. I think we’re most likely to get that kind of thing in an editorial rather than on a red carpet, and who knows when the fuck they’ll have another photoshoot.

R49 I will say if holly has sense she’ll realize the most viral joe pics and looks have been him shirtless and him in tiny shorts and adjust accordingly.

Kizzy going off as he should. Brad also posted the attitude cover. Still hoping Kit and Joe might post any of their shoots too.

R43 I love when actions have consequences!

R51 that’s hilarious. Honestly valid though. Not into women but cori is objectively beautiful with a killer body, and extremely photogenic. She also deserves better written scenes and more hype.

R44 And you’ve shown your hypocrisy when it comes to Kit with your weird double standards. I’m not buying your fake high ground comment. Shut the fuck up

R53 I will never get over Imogen becoming the fan favourite female character when Tara is right there, being played by Cori who is absolutely flawless. Just like the massive discrepancy in popularity between Joe and Kit reeks of homophobia, this very clearly reeks of racism. What's even worse is instead of trying to address it, Patrick and Alice just keep giving Imogen more to do.

Joe posted a throwback of him and Kit, divorce canceled.

Cute.

R55 it’s racist and shitty given Tara exists in the comics and imogen doesn’t, but also given cori is one of the strongest young actors given no real material and rhea is the worst actor yet imogen was given a “making new friends and learning girl power” arc and is going to be given a coming out arc. If Alice insists on side character storylines at least give them to the best actors, who in this case happen to all be canonical characters and mostly minorities anyway (cori, will, kizzy, Yaz by extension, Jenny). Also weird that if she wanted to expand a random storyline that didn’t exist in the comic she had to build imogen for it. If she really wanted a friend with a crush thing, she could’ve made the character less annoying and given it to Leila/sahar who would then join the friend group. Though frankly just think imogen didn’t matter after s1 and should’ve been cut

R57 that‘s GQ‘s recent post about GQMOTY. I know it’s about attendees over the years but maybe they’ll actually show up! Apparently filming is till 7pm every day this week though.

R59 They ran into that problem last year, it's why they missed the red carpet. I guess they might be able to make it again if they do that.

R57 cute. Still can’t believe we never got their speech.

R58 I really think Cori is overdue more material. Hopefully the report about the show converting a space into a dance studio leads to something more.

In retrospect, another weird bash thing. Very odd and kind of offputting to literally use events honoring your boyfriend to launch your new styling relationship. GQ and the Emmys back to back. He posted and pitched Harry lambert more at the Emmys than joe and while he mentioned Joe and Kit in his MOTY post, he didn’t even include a photo of or with them.

R63 The whole thing was pretty pathetic. The only reason he even went to either event because he was Joe's +1. Incredibly obvious back then, even more obvious now that all four of Joe, Kit, Will, and Yaz have been on British GQ covers and Bash had that one blurb and then nothing ever again.

R64 agreed with that and I don’t even mind him having an article for GQ, Will did too, fair enough. But to use the grid post to say “oh yeah proud of Joe and Kit anyway” without any pics of them, and then use his Emmy stories to hype Harry lambert and his Emmy grid post to hype kits win is really fucking mean

R64 Funnily enough, Bash made it into that Best Dressed list linked in that new Instagram post with Joe and Kit as the cover. I don't see Joe and Kit in there, just Bash and Will, but maybe they're using the Insta post to count their honourary inclusion.

R66 I think the insta post is supposed to be inclusive. Yaz is also in the insta post.

R66 Maybe because they missed the carpet? Andrew is there on the post and in the article

R66 Not to be cynical and I’m saying this without having clicked the list so I could be talking out of my ass, but if Bash’s inclusion links back to the feature from last year then they’re probably trying to get hits on old articles.

Joes tiny face and those cheekbones in Kit’s big hands is always so hot

Kit

R71 are they just leaving for the day? Them not talking obviously means nothing but is funny given my rhea sucks suspicion and how generally friendly Kit is

Obvious given what they’re filming, but a full house today.

R71 Huh, maybe there's some truth in the speculation they don't like each other. She really is five paces ahead of him.

R74 Looks more like it’s raining and they’re trying to hurry up to go inside but ymmv

Kit's like that a lot when he's on set if you watch any BTS footage. Quiet and kind of keeps to himself. There were times when he'd walk slightly isolated from everyone else when he was at Lyme Regis, too.

R74 maybe but not necessarily something I‘d read into. We‘ve seen Kit walk way ahead of Joe or Tobie on set many times, seems to be a mode they go into while working and everything‘s fast paced.

Another Tobie like

24 hour delay on this tweet for some reason.

this is so funny and pretentious

These people find something to be condescending about every fucking day.

She deleted the Kit video, did anybody save it?

Ultimately, it will be up to the set security to handle this. If they are filming in public spaces or a common street in front of college kids, there will always be lurking fans around.

If Alice (who'd whine about something as minor as a hangnail on her Tumblr) hasn't said anything, then they don't care.

Who hired these internet morons as production security?

not this 50 year old jumping in on fighting a literal teenager on twitter about a boundary that’s made up

R82

R82 - here you go

Once again even in not overly tight jeans and being lean as hell, joe has such a perfect ass. I want to grab it

0 chance of this with the suspicions we have about their schedules, but they’d both be great for this.

R45 Hot as fuck with a killer smile! Damn

I didn’t realise you all meant Ami had wiped its whole sm. The comments must have been wild across the account. Noah’s a white man so unfortunately he’ll bounce back (take him longer because he’s gay) but I’m glad he’s facing the consequences of being a fucking bigot

R90 I see them as that young hot gay couple who keep seducing all the millennial gays into group sex to rob them. Then one pretends to fall in love with one half of a married gay couple but really they’re both still in on it and it’s just to empty the guy’s bank account. I wonder if Mike White needs additional writing staff (or any)

Will and Olivia are live with the Wasia Project account for the single release. Will‘s in a car likely just driving home from set.

R92 honestly it won’t happen but would love that plotline. Joe as a damsel in distress looking to be saved from a shitty relationship by some older gay man but he and Kit are in on it together the whole time would be excellent.

R93 I quite like their music, I’m happy for them the band is doing so well

Olivia losing connection and Will clearly being uncomfortable being alone in the live and flipping the camera, cracked me up. Tobie’s commenting "love you Will haha" when it happened too.

R90 It'd be a great way to show a little more range. They're good at the serious stuff, but they're also so fucking funny and Heartstopper doesn't take enough advantage of that.

R92 Definitely send him your pitch.

R93 No Kit in the car? I keep trying to figure out how long they're going to shoot for the birthday before they start shooting other stuff at Charlie's house. Maybe Will's going back to London and Kit's staying around.

R93 He might have been there. Will definitely angled the camera in a suspicious way, but since it’s about Wasia, doubt they want everyone in the chat screaming about Kit (or any of the cast really).

The fan who got the content just went private. Hs fans know well how to ruin their own fun.

Is there actually another Kit smokes controversy or are the fans generating one? Last time it was mentioned he smoked it passed without comment

R99 I've seen people being weird about it again, that fluffy whatever stan that's been linked here a couple of times was one of the whiners.

R99 haven’t seen tweets but guessing tiktok comments maybe? It’s wild it’s still an issue to people. Really none of their business

it’s about a tiktok mentioning he smoked on set. as always, some people trying to claim he only vapes and some whining about it and then a lot of people bringing attention to it by trying to defend him.

R99 TikTok is being TikTok about it. They’re always stupid. The “Joe and Kit had a falling out” thing picked up a lot of traction on there, too.

Ah right, well TikTok is bizarre and full of women and girls babying Kit so yeah.

Joe’s story was cute. A lot has happened between now and then. A lot for Kit but a lot of big changes for Joe (living in another country, break up, moving to London). They don’t look much different but they were babies at the awards last year

guess Kit wasn‘t in the car if he watched the live from his account. they probably all finished around that time though, it was basically 7.

R36 A theater production company reposted it, so it’s definitely related to a stage production of something. Trying not to get my hopes up.

R106 if they drop a poster of Kit like that the internet (and myself) will lose its gd mind

are there any photos of Kit smoking? I only know the tiktok of him vaping, I need a photo of him with a cigarette (for my wank bank)

R107 if that’s for Henry I’m guessing we get the full cast announcement including Kit within the next few weeks. Insane

R109 I know it gets absolutely worn out here but that + movie. Joe, Marvel + Off Broadway. Completely crazy. At that age I was still on my family’s healthcare card

Apparently bash is also in a “he’s a smoker” controversy. As per CC one to two of his five fans wish he would quit. Sad days

Stay strong Joe and don't start. Even if everyone you know and Manchester Joe is vaping doesn't mean you have to.

Kit came up in a podcast Corey Mylchreest did, Corey said that Kit's a lovely person, apparently he surprised Corey at the King Lear press night. Got a ticket on his own and told him that he needed to be there.

"Kit is such a lovely, kind, wonderful person. I can't believe how young he is because he has the demeanor, and the physicality, and the brain, and the heart of someone about 10 years older than me and I'm about 6 years older than him."

R113 That’s why I think he didn’t click with Rhea. Kit likes to have fun and mess around with Tobie and co. but he’s also very mature. He’s not throwing people under the bus and tries hard to keep his people around him. I think he’s the one who tried the hardest (at least online) with Bash. Rhea seems immature and childish.

R111 Kind chuckled at them being worried about his voice

R113 that’s really sweet. He and joe are both so supportive of their friends. It’s a really great trait but will also help their careers a lot. Leaves a good impression on people

The clip, if anyone wants to hear it firsthand.

R117 the same podcast bash nearly had a heart attack on when the host mentioned joe and his grandfather to him. How different the impressions he and Kit leave are

Tangential but Harry lamberts Zara line is heinous

R119 He couldn't pander any harder to Harry Styles's tasteless fans if he tried.

Can’t listen at the moment but was there any particular reason Kit came up. I know he’s an absolute sweetheart but it seems like he’s brought up a lot randomly. I was cynical that he was at the play for Corey (I take the L on that) but it’s strange to me that his attendance at the play was raised

R121 He came up because they were pictured together at Corey's first fashion show. It was part of a longer conversation about his escalating fame, basically.

R121 she mentioned Kit in the context of Corey getting more famous and going to fashion shows, mentioned”you have a lovely photo of you and Kit, what a lovely person”. Them Corey mentioned the press night etc

Thanks. Makes sense. Not like the way the YR guys always get asked about him

Intrigued

I might be confusing rumors, but didn't someone mention that Billy turned into a rat at the mall or something ages ago?

R126 I remember that was mentioned when the mall pictures were leaked

R126 Billy and Agatha were chasing a rat.

R117 Ended up listening to the whole thing and that’s a great interview. Kinda wish Joe or Kit could go on a podcast like that so that we can hear their full thoughts on the show’s success and everything else.

R129 I hope they have better talking points for s3. Kit must be sick of talking about his sexuality (it’s literally been going on since S1) and Joe’s PR has to come up with a better angle than privacy (he’s an interesting and intelligent man, it’s not that hard).

R129 There was a guy who was supposed to have them on just before the strike hit but I’ve heard of nothing else from him, not that I’ve checked.

Update on R43, when that comment was left on here Noah's campaign was still up on his page. It's gone now.

R132 wow. So not just unofficial it seems. Thats pretty big

R133 Advocating for genocide is a hell of a way to break a morality clause.

R134 unbelievable really. I wonder how Netflix are going to manage it

Will filmed himself doing a dance on set to promote the Wasia Project single.

R136 absolute clown

This was extremely cute. Kit Teasing him till he realized he was terrified and then helping him out, Joe instinctively reaching out for him. Bash must have been fuming watching this

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R113 that‘s really sweet. also a bit funny cause I never thought we'd get a direct answer about his friendship with Corey and how it factored into him attending the play. If only all our speculations could get such enlightening feedback.

The way they just make shit up. I went to fact check this because obviously Kit has a few pretty tight friends from way before HS and as suspected this is skewed to fit the crazy fan narrative. He said he didn’t enjoy going out until the last year. He didn’t have some kind of tragic friendless existence before HS.

R141 oh Jesus. He and joe have both spoken really sweetly and sincerely about how much the show and cast means to them. Fans don’t need to pretend they were like Oliver Twist, friendless poor alone and miserable, pre show

R141 Kit’s just a low-key guy. I’m sure he’s happy he met the guys, they seem really close and perhaps his first queer group of friends. But he said many times he has his own people and if everything crumbled, he’d be fine.

I distinctly remember these photos a week or so after hoodiegate, where joe was glowing and looked really gorgeous and happy, as one of the ways the tide started turning and people thought maybe the breakup was for the best

Anyone else feels like shooting is going very slowly ? They’re half way into production time and from what we know only filmed the beach scenes, the carnival scenes, charlie’s birthday and some uni visits. Together that can’t be more than 2 episodes

There are also fans that are saying Kit is over HS because he hasn’t mentioned it since the strike ended (less than a week ago). I’m not going to link them because I’m 95% she’s the new sensitive Kit troll that tried to stir shit up (and did tbh). They were all basically silent except for Disneyland during S2 - what do they want from them. From the sign in sheet Joe posted and the physical filming we’ve seen, Kit is busy and (to my disappointment as a Joe fan and a fan of them together) clearly much busier than anyone else.

R145 prom was a whole ep, that could easily be four if the uni visits is a real focus (not searching for a fight, just observing it could be).

R145 those scenes are only the ones that were filmed public but in between there have always been days and weeks that they shot in the studio/school - which probably takes up a majority of the screen time. Especially if that’s where they film the hospital stuff as well.

R139 Joe being scared enough that he closed his eyes while walking towards Kit kills me. And I wish they'd panned up during that last shot, you know the top half was either hot or hilarious.

R146 With Kit specifically, I can't believe it's been 3 seasons and people are still reading the worst into his process. He was reserved in the vlogs = he didn't get along with anyone else. He's not as active on social media = he hates the show. It's tiring.

R145 That feels like at least 3 episodes to me? Beach/I love you = premiere, Charlie's birthday = an episode in the second half of the season, carnival/uni = season finale.

R146 They said the same when Joe wasn’t sharing S2 promo (before the strikes). They’re probably not keen to share with online fans for obvious reasons. Twitter fans need to realize the cast does not like them

R150 at all. So funny that a lot of fans are responding Kit to that tweet asking which celebrity you think you’d get along with irl. Like, girlie, he fucking hates you

I linked a “Nick’s emotions” edit from TikTok in the last thread (that was really good). OP made a Charlie one, which is also fire.

R152 This reminds me that I've been listening to some podcasts and there's one for Heartstopper called Why Are We Like This that praises Joe's non-verbal acting quite a lot. Echoing everybody else's wishes for the cast to do more podcast interviews/appearances to go fully in-depth. If Netflix were smart, they'd go as far as DVD releases with audio commentaries!

R153 in 4K please.

R153 I tried listening to that one but I feel like I’m at saturation point with women’s take on the show tbh

Ian McKellan confirmed for Henry IV next year - IIRC from earlier threads, Robert Icke directing and Noel Coward Theatre as the venue were likely - both confirmed. So now just need Kit to be announced

R156 just incredible.

There’s no way Kit is doing that play plus the A24 movie in the same year.

[quote]The production will open in March, playing at the New Wimbledon Theatre and Manchester Opera House, before transferring to the West End for a 12-week run at the Noël Coward Theatre from April to June.

R158 I've had a feeling for a little bit that he's going to end up doing the play and the movie is either going to be shelved without him or he'll be recast.

R158 I guess that depends if they signed for S4. I think he could definitely do a lower budget film, a play and S3 pr. It’s S4 that would be a struggle to fit in

I’m going to be anxious as shit about this until Kit’s officially announced.

R156 extremely fucking cool. I really hope he and joe are able to catch each other in their respective plays

What play will Joe be a part of?

R164 unconfirmed. He has relationships with Eric Kuhn (he was in the background of a recent fan photo of Joe in NYC) and Jeremy O Harris (who posted the birthday insta story of Joe licking caviar off his hand). Eric produces plays in both the UK and USA but the link to Jeremy and random two day recent trip to NYC points of Off Broadway

3-4 AM seems like such a weird time to drop that announcement that I'm assuming that the BBC published it earlier than intended.

R164 what 165 said. If it’s Jeremy related, it’s probably brand new.

I am already in awe of the sleuthing skills regarding the plays.

Dying to know what Joe will do, he was so good in The Trials.

And Kit with Sir Ian (Serena) is incredible, just wow !

The investigative skills here are so brilliant .

Excited for a new chapter for them, I am a little over some of the hs fans and the way they baby the cast.

Will watch S3 for sure still, and S4 if it happens but they need to spread their wings.

This was one of the funniest dynamics of S2 for me especially with Farouk also jumping down Ben’s throat every other second

R165 one of the most surefire signs HStwt is all straight girls is that the Jeremy o Harris gif never got traction. I mean come on

R170 this. I look forward to it being all over sm in a year when he is discovered by more gays. At least LPSG got a lot of play out of it

Assuming that the detective work is right and Kit is playing Henry… anyone wanting to get tickets for the Wimbledon/Manchester shows or sign up for priority for the London shows, they’ve just set up the website

R172 well that seems like Kit’s announcement is imminent

R153 Do you remember which episode did they praise Joe’s non-verbal acting?

Kit will be getting announced any day I’d expect. Probably falstaff, then Hal, then Henry iv in order though obviously I could be wrong. So fucking cool. Can’t wait for more of this for him and joe. And will, actually — both wasia and his acting career are doing great. Rooting for kizzy, cori, and Jenny to get more opportunities too

Go for it Kit!

r144 the post break-up dick smile. OF Nick did the job

R174 They praise his non-verbal acting in several episodes, actually!

Chetna posted a couple of photos from last season where they seem to be half in their prom outfits

joe commented on that post ‘never leave’

R179 They’re all adorable.

The cast love each other and the show lots, it’s a shame that a lot of the fans are so fucking annoying.

Player Kings is at Wimbledon from Friday 1st March to Sat 9th March 2024

And at Noel Coward Theatre from Monday 1st April to Sat 22nd June 2024

Manchester is Thu 14th March to Sat 23rd March 2024

It’s apparently 4 hours long so I’m not buying tickets until Kit’s confirmed. Sorry, Sir Ian.

4 hours ????????? Yikes

Can you lurkers try to at least be a little subtle?

R165 That's great. That's some really good connections to have. Is there any specific information that suggests he could do play next year or it's just hopeful thinking?

R185 Just realised it is 2 plays so no wonder it is long.

Looking forward to King Lear next week, only 2 hours .

It does say four hours online but I think it has to be comfortably under that — it has two Saturday performances, one at 2:30 pm and one at 6:30 pm. They can’t do them literally back to back Id reckon

R187 If someone tells me how to, I'll put dicks over the video next time. For laughs, at least.

R188 Everything we do here is tentative connecting the dots. Even with this Henry IV stuff, don't assume we're right until it's formally announced.

Did K have a copy of the play text for Henry ?

Was he pictured with it ? Or did I dream that ?

R192 Pretty sure he had one in his British Vogue In The Bag video along with a copy of Ethan Hawke's A Bright Ray of Darkness.

R189 Hoping you like it, I skimmed a couple of the reviews and they weren't great.

R188 I mean did Eric say “watch out for me and a certain HS star coming to you off broadway”, no. But as with Kit, lots of context clues we’ve discussed at length in other threads.

1. Eric posts literally everyone else he hangs out with or invites to plays (especially the latter), and joe generally tags everyone he knows connected to the play to praise it and is very generous with his praise. But Eric never tags joe at plays or musicals they are literally sitting next to one another for, and joe never mentions Eric in his stories about them. Ditto NYC, where joe was there for literally 2-3 days this past week and got lunch with Eric and neither post. Seems unlikely you’d be so close to a 30 something producer you’d see him whilst there for a long weekend, only 3 days, and yet literally never mention or tag one another.

2. Kit and joe both started specifically saying they wanted to do more stage stuff all the time in interviews earlier this year, which is generally a pretty surefire sign you’re doing something and is what originally tipped us all off to be on the lookout for a potential kit stage project

3. The three day NYC trip, plus summer one week NYC to LA trip, looked a lot like confirming the play and then flying out to his agency, esp since the universal studios thing he went to and pier tour he did there are very agency arranged activities

4. Jeremy has said earlier this year that he is casting for and looking at producing some gay plays, plus him liking and knowing Joe enough to take him out for caviar (generally expensive and celebratory) and post for his birthday, is a good sign.

R194 The play Kit might be on already has reviews?

Joe's going to have to find something else to make fun of Kit for.

R196 They're going to see King Lear, that's the Branagh play that's already out.

The full video of Kit for BMW.

R197 he is doing an ad for BMW?

Looks more like an IG thing

R199 Kit is adorable. Nice looking guy with good morals.

It's exceptionally well-done because the reel is more about his thoughts than about a car. You don't even get it's about a car until you go to the site.

Kit looks hot and is so thoughtful but I really don’t understand marketing nowadays I guess. I can’t understand how celebrities talking about their personal growth would inspire anyone to buy a car. But always glad to have more content

Do find it funny that that actually still doesn’t confirm he can drive. Guessing he can now but would be hilarious if he can’t

R203 Whoever handles his brand partnership stuff (ITG?) is doing a really good job. Everything’s been tasteful, they’re all really good brands, and you’re not getting hit over the head with the ads. The casual watch story, this video.

Hope it means he can drive and Joe can be his passenger princess now.

I’ll be curious to see what brand partnerships the PR starts lining up for Will. We’ve all discussed joes useless PR so that’s a whole different story. But they did very well for Yaz and now for Lit, and I think Will has the potential for some cool stuff but I’m wondering what it’ll be

R204 Raised brand awareness. And the video will drive traffic to the link at the end.

It's pretty interesting to me that Kit's deals have been with luxury brands that sell things outside of the Heartstopper fan base's budget. They must have compelling marketing numbers and information on Kit, he has to be appealing to older audiences if these brands are all working with him.

R208 That's his team capitalizing on Kit's Instagram following. They know Kit's fanbase cannot go out and buy a BMW car but his reach is enough for them.

R208 I don’t know if it’s appealing to older people (genuinely possible, I just literally don’t know) or if it’s that he appeals very strongly to people with money within a younger base too. Part of the reason so many k pop stars are used for luxury brands now is because they have a lot of appeal somewhat globally but also to a very wealthy Asian teenager/young adult population. Kids of the super rich basically. Wonder if Kit has a similar appeal. I wouldn’t be surprised, the English thing helps a lot for Americans and he comes off as very mature and “high end” in that sense

I hope we will still see Kit's goofy personality from time to time. He's too young for this serious-actor persona online.

I'm not totally surprised that that's the facet of his personality he leads with online, both for the obvious reasons and because the fans are morons whenever they so much as get a whiff of levity out of him.

R212 I agree but also let’s be real, I think to a degree a lot of the cast will be similar. When you’re so young and want/need to be taken seriously you are likely to lead with the more mature aspects to show you are someone who can comfortably lead a show, film, play, et cetera. I’m sure they’re all goofy as hell behind the scenes still and even in real life once they get the role

R213 Yeah, those are the obvious reasons I'm alluding to. Don't think any of them are looking to get into stand-up comedy.

R214 nah I knew it’s probably what you meant, was more just saying I wouldn’t be surprised if we see more and more of the cast acting similarly. Joe is funny as fuck online but for all the fandom loves to say him doing anything gay is unhinged, is similar, gives very thoughtful quotes and really lovely thoughtful stories to praise things he’s seen and enjoyed. Minor but for instance tobie really decentralizing the vlogs this season instead of playing them up. They understandably want to be seen as actors first

Unrelated but Jesus rhea cannot act

R213 That's an interesting observation. In this day and age, a lot of directors are looking for actors with a fun personality. I believe Timothee got his oscar-nominated role because Luca saw a video of him goofing around. Depends on what kind of roles Kit wants to do, I'd say but I wouldn't be surprised if his agency is the reason for this more serious demeanor online.

This fandom really confuses me at times. Does Nick really come across as the character most likely to be autistic?

R218 He does not in the slightest, but justice for James who is actually apparently autistic after Bradley asked Alice

Tori I can see, Isaac yeah, Tao, maybe, but Nick and Charlie? No.

I think people just voted for their fav characters tbh. Half these people probably don’t even understand what autism is and think of it as something quirky added to their favs character or something

R218 they also think he’s most likely to be trans, because it seems really realistic that a character who is out as trans is completely mind blown that he might be queer and that everyone would insist a trans boy must be straight, and it’s highly realistic his entire rugby team is both so pro trans that they accept him for that but so homophobic they are shit to him and Charlie. I get trans headcanons arent for me, they’re for trans people so I mind my own business, but it’s odd for sure. I think most of them just like nick the most and thus project more diversity onto him to “justify” liking him more than the other characters, so he’s not just a bi basic white guy, he’s a trans autistic demisexual bisexual man. When you can like whatever character you want without all that, of course don’t shit on the POC or trans characters for no reason and stick up for things like imogen basically replacing Tara, but no need to jump through hoops to like nick

Anyway think it’s pretty clearly tori and her boyfriend as written by Alice

R217 Part of it is the age thing. There are already about -4 good roles for men their ages.

R218 Guessing they voted for whoever they project most on.

Serious discussions about the ad out of the way, Kit has such a sexy voice and looks hot as fuck in the video.

Weird side note on the autistic thing: it is bizarre most of the fandom forgets Charlie is meant to straight up be neurodivergent so they can insist nick is instead. But also, unrelated, I see for the autistic nick and Charlie headcanons (much more for Charlie and joe in this specific context) that they point to actual acting moments and gestures of the characters and actors in the show (like Charlie’s little happy dance after saying bye to nick or rocking anxiously on the bed when nick and David fight) and say those gestures are surefire signs the characters are autistic. Now I know there’s nothing wrong obviously with being autistic and it’s not being used as an insult but saying “this physical thing an actor does in real life as well is a sign the character is autistic) seems like overstepping

R223 He does. I'm not a fan of the roadman accent but Kit has a soothing voice. Joe does too when he plays Charlie. Their partners are very lucky.

R225 They both have lovely voices but Joe's is absolutely gorgeous. It's one of the first thing that attracted me to him. He's so softly spoken but has really great diction.

I think in real life I also love Kit and joes voices together because as the above have said both are very soothing beautiful voices but also the different accents are so good together

Kit and Joe seen on set today

R225 I love the roadman accent on him, makes me wish he was throwing me around.

R226 I've brought this up before, but will never not be mad at the person who said Bash and Kit have the voice for voice work but Joe does not. Wherever you are, I hope you have a mostly shitty day

R230 ironically Joe probably has one of the best voices for voice work both because of his naturally gorgeous voice but also because we know for a fact he can do different accents. Bash is both nasal and useless at accents

R228 both hot. Joes profile is just next level, honestly. It’s crazy he has that bone structure naturally

R231 Interesting. I've known Croft for his voice-acting gigs before Heartstopper. Has Joe done any voice-acting?

R233 joe started acting professionally with HS and has been busy doing that, an off west end play, and marvel in the past two years so literally hasn’t had the time. But the accent he has in both HS and Agatha is not his real accent, and are two different accents, one southern England and one American. So pretty clear he has the talent for it.

R229 as an American, not sure what "roadman accent' implies. Is it a specific regional thing?

R235 basically somewhat of a chavvy “rough” accent. I think though can’t speak for everyone it’s mostly cringe when young guys do it because most aren’t actually from rough areas, it’s an affectation to sound tougher. I don’t really notice Kit doing it much to be honest though maybe I’m just missing it, but Cormac is a very classic example in the show. Sorry to stereotype but doubt someone named Cormac Hyde Corrin is in a counsel estate

R235 It's the accent Kit has in the work out video he did. I think he code switches and has his more neutral, professional voice (the one we usually hear) and the roadman accent comes out in a more casual setting. I do a similar thing (not with a roadman accent, another "rough" accent) and it's second nature, don't even notice I'm doing it until it's pointed out.

R236 interesting indeed. I‘m also not from the UK, or America for that matter, but their accents all kinda sound the same to me so now I feel impaired lol. Maybe because I‘m not a mative English speaker. Though Joe’s does sound different to me (sometimes).

*native

R236 His mom was on Coronation Street and his dad is a chartered surveyor.

R238 joe does an excellent very natural sounding accent in the show but yes, in real life has a different accent from the rest of the cast. The person who doesn’t cover up her natural accent at all on the show is Yaz, so maybe you’ve noticed hers being different from the others too

R241 yes fair, Yaz for sure. Leila as well on the show (can’t recall her accent in interviews right now).

Unrelated but cori is so insanely photogenic

This comparison should be reported for bullying to Kit. Especially interesting given cori just posted new pics of herself but sure why choose the black girl for this

R244 Regardless, the fact that they’ve chosen such a mad picture of Rhea anyway. If anyone tried to take a pic of me at that stupid angle I’d tell them where to shove it.

R244 Is that the Joe's PR people need to step in person. Starting to recognize some of these people

R245 rhea made it her pfp on insta. She really thinks 🧿🧿 is a flex

Can someone more familiar with bash lore weigh in — did he smoke when with joe to our knowledge? Curious because his stan said he’s been smoking for a while but every picture she posted was from post breakup.

Am I supposed to see a big change or something

R248 Right looks like a man down on his luck

R248 I don't remember him so publicly smoking cigs before. Connor smokes as does Charlie so now Bash does

R248 Pretty sure I remember seeing a picture of him smoking a cigar that was either pre-Joe or while he was dating Joe. Not sure about cigarettes but he's British, so...

I say this with all the love (not for Bash though), but these white English men need to pick a struggle and not smoke.

And yeah, there's a pic with a cigar but not cigs

R248 No offense but is smoking such a big deal for Americans or younger people? I've seen multiple people worried that some of the cast is smoking.

R252 will is protected by those POC genes from aging, joe doesn’t smoke plus his dad looks honestly quite young so that’s good for him genetically. I think Kit will make it through on the basis of good bone structure, which the other two also have, and generally lends itself to aging well

R253 It's basically drilled into you that smoking is akin to murder from a really young age in school. I think I was about 9 or 10 when they started it up.

R253 I don’t really care if they do, just curious when bash picked it up because I thought it was funny he might’ve only started after joe. Kit, will, kizzy, and Yaz vaping or smoking has been known since before the show

R253 I grew ip here in England so smoking is not exactly scandalous to me to be clear. Im just curious about bash’s timeline for it because while I’m pretty live and let live about smokers, every further item in the “losing joe ruined him” bucket is funny to me

R253 US is pretty anti-smoking

R253 for a long time it was pushed that smoking was a bad thing and not a lot on young people smoked. when vaping became a thing, most younger people went to that

R256 I think it's a recent habit and I paid far too much attention to Bash for two years and never noticed him smoking before this often, to answer your question

R254 They also got rich and famous young so they have access to top of the line skincare treatments if they so choose to indulge. Technology is crazy. I don't even worry about their hairlines because they can always go to Andrew Garfield's doctor and get that shit fixed right up.

R258 It's pretty ridiculous when half the population is above obesity from the chemicals in their food. Smoking is the least of their worries.

R261 plus lbr for Kit and joe especially being queer makes them more attentive to it in a way I think will be good. Not endorsing the insane body image standards always within the community but it’ll be nice to see two guys want to age well and take care of themselves looking like hot older guys onscreen instead of the usual slovenly messes we’re expected to believe are sex symbols to mid twenties love interests

R262 Well, UK is full of fat whores too and you got smoking to worry about too

Appreciate how DL is so gay, the main concern about smoking discussed is bad aging as opposed to cancer

It really is the gay and the girls in this show. Iconic

R265 Weirdly enough, the people in my life who had cancer were all non-smokers. Diet is a real component as also the use of sunscreen.

R263 Did you see Kit's Vogue what's in his bag. He uses hand cream for everything. Please Joe hook him up.

Sorry for changing the topic a little but I'm curious if anyone knows or has a theory as to why Kit stopped following Jemima Marriot

Okay, so I did some asking around and Kit’s not in Henry IV so nobody book any tickets. Kit and Pugh are looking at other plays for him to do, don’t have any specifics beyond that. From what I was told, it sounds like they’re trying to find a vehicle where he’s the main draw and with the way that specific adaptation of Henry IV is being done he wouldn’t have been that.

Can someone tell me how major this “major new drama” is - can’t take bash stans seriously

R269 that’s really really interesting. She doesn’t follow joe of the entire cast so maybe she was a cunt about him after the breakup and Kit pulled a tobie with Nell? No clue.

R270 no offense but what’s your source on that? Seems weird he’d be reading multiple Henry IV related books including the play itself otherwise.

R262 Can't both be bad? Smoking kills people, including those around you, unlike fatty food that only poisons the person eating it. Smoking is the cause of death for 2/3 of smokers. The fact that it's not socially acceptable to smoke in public America is a good thing.

BUT- Harassing or even commenting on the cast smoking is stupid because it's not our business. Most of them will feel their mortality in a few years and give it up anyway.

R265 I mean, have you seen Richard Madden lately? He resembles a leather handbag. Fellow ginger Kit needs to take that as a cautionary tale: Cigs + melanin deficiency = Crypt-Keeper by 35.

R269 Making up because she didn't follow Joe even if she follows literally everyone else in the cast

R271 well from the synopsis alone not sure how central a 22 year old man will be to a story whose whole point is “female gangs running the street”. Probably a love interest ir something

R272 1 okay I read the article. “ Julianne Nicholson (Mare of Easttown) stars as Kate Galloway, a single mother who establishes a nightclub amidst the hedonistic uproar of post-World War One London, embracing a life of criminal activities with the dedicated aim of providing for her daughter Evie, played by Eilidh Fisher (The Power).

Eliza Scanlen (Little Women) plays Violet Davies, one of the first wave of female officers for the Metropolitan Police, who is assigned to go undercover and investigate the illicit world of underground Soho nightclubs. This is where we find Billie Cassidy played by Umi Myers (Bob Marley: One Love), a dazzling bohemian dancer, whose life is turned upside down by Kate’s arrival.

Geraldine James (Silo) also stars as Isabella - the leader of the criminal Salucci family including Rory Fleck Bryne (This Is Going To Hurt) as Luca Salucci, Dustin Demri-Burns (Slow Horses, Am I Being Unreasonable?) as Damaso Salucci, Eben Figueiredo (The Serial Killer’s Wife) as Matteo Rossi Salucci and Sebastian Croft (Heartstopper) as Silvio Salucci.”

So he is a family member of the third biggest character.

R272 Can’t be specific about sources but I’m one of the Industry DLers, just wanted to warn people before they start spending their money on this. Unless they really like Sir Ian. I actually started asking around when I noticed Pugh isn’t producing.

R271 I'm not surprised Bash is booking new roles rapidly. His CV is pretty impressive for a young talent.

R270 Hmm.. I mean getting in rehearsals for that play between HS filming and the A24 project does seem unlikely

I'm not surprised he's getting roles, but even back when I liked him I never thought he'd actually gets anything outside UK roles while Kit and Joe are destined for more.

And good luck with that Italian accent

R269 interesting, when he went live with Tobie on the tube, he shouted her out.

R273 Sure, if you are a chain smoker however no one in the cast appears to be. Aging is also affected by the use of sunscreen, diet, and exercise.

Calling bash’s CV impressive is one of the kindest things I’ve read here. But yes, he’s a rich kid who had the most expensive acting schools and voice lessons and is a rich child actor so of course has a much longer CV than most his age,

R279 not wrong but I guessed maybe the A24 project wasn’t actually for January and the date on it was wrong and he’d do both.

I'm sure the show will be good, but he probably booked a role smaller than Ben. It's another role he won't break out from.

Oh i wonder whats the tea with the unfollow then. Aa for the play i was really hoping he would do it

R270 Interesting. Well, I'll take your word for it. And yeah, looks like Pugh has nothing to do with the play, so it checks out.

Did Kit maybe audition then? I’m stuck on him having not one but two Henry iv books (one the play itself, one the Ethan hawke book) otherwise.

Wait I didn’t even realize this wasn’t that Ils girl’s update account. My god she’s useless as a Stan. Gets scooped so much.

R270 thanks for the intel on Henry play …… we will go anyway as we love the theatre

Also I know Lear has had dodgy reviews. We booked the tickets ages ago before the reviews.

Praying they make bash do an Italian accent. Please.

R285 I did too, but I also didn’t realize that Pugh is proper invested in finding the right thing for Kit. I thought he had approached Kit because of a specific part, not that he’s catering whatever he’s going to end up doing to Kit specifically.

The Theater guy on Twitter did say Kit was going to be in a play soon.

R291 im even more interested now i. what ends up happening because if his project is being catered to kit specifically, it can end up being really good

R292 recently or is it that post he made a couple of months ago

R287 Not industry DLer, but my guess is that maybe David Pugh and Kit had tentative plans to do Henry IV but then Ian McKellen agreed to do a "competing" adaptation that centered Falstaff and they decided to look for something else.

Unrelated but bash’s fans insisting he’s so beyond HS and outgrown it and it did nothing for him when it’s the project named in every casting announcement and even what Aisling used to reference him is funny

R295 that actually seems the most plausible to me and makes a lot of sense

R296 It's going to suck for him if that ends up being what he's perpetually known for. It would be one thing if he was a lead, but as a supporting actor? Oof.

R295 I can't imagine Kit would turn down the opportunity to work with McKellen ymmv

if he is not doing the play then a24 for sure is a go. wonder when that particular news will be dropped by the trades

Pulling this back down but someone on Reddit speculated, I think maybe rightfully, that this might be Charlie and nick saying goodbye before Charlie goes to the hospital

R299 I'm not saying he turned it down, I'm saying they were separate things and that Kit probably wasn't going to ditch Pugh to audition for the McKellen production.

R299 I think their point is maybe Pugh and Kit had tentatively planned for Henry IV. Then unrelated and coincidentally, someone else developed a different version with McKellan as the lead, without Pugh ever being involved. So rather than have two Henrys the same year, they’re thinking about what else to do. Not that he was offered under the condition McKellan was the star and declined

I’m re-reading the messages I got and it sounds like R295 was what my guy was alluding to. There’s a bit of vagueness in the information I got (understandably), the stuff about Kit not being in this specific production and Kit and Pugh actively looking for something else that caters to Kit were the concrete parts. I wish I could just post what I got verbatim but yeah, if you’re taking anything from what I’ve said take those two things.

R304 Right. Well, I guess we are back to square one with possible theater news from both Kit and Joe but nothing concrete. A bit disappointing but understandable.

R304 Thanks for sharing ….. I was about to book tickets for 3 or 4 performances , will stick to one or two now.

Also, asking people for information on this while trying to act like I’m not overly invested in Kit and I’m just professionally curious? Great acting exercise for me.

R301 Is this from the girl that locked her account? Hopefully someone leaks if she sees Charlie's family.

Bash stans are really happy about his jew job. I guess for once he has a valid reason he can’t go see Charlie.

They’re really thrilled. I guess I, happy for them they have something other than his boyfriend to be excited about

R308 yeah its from her, she says someone sent it to her

Kit really does have Disney prince face.

R307 This made me laugh. Thanks for all of the info you get for us.

R309 In some ways, it's easier to stan supporting actors because they'll take anything. Joe and Kit aren't going to pick projects where they have 10 minutes of screentime max after doing Heartstopper. Bash still has that flexibility.

I agree with this take and I would say it’s probably due to many things. Maybe nerves, lack of rehearsal time, Alice’s writing but also maybe the intimacy coordinator and Netflix. They really want Nick and Charlie to be bubble gum gays and that doesn’t help. If I compare Kit and Joe to the actors from Skam, I’d say they have more chemistry but we don’t see them be as playful and comfortable so it looks like they don’t.

R312 Some star as lead characters in big productions, some people star as the least important family member of the third most important character. Guess they all have their roles.

R313 Maybe because Joe and Kit aren't 12 years old

That cc person is a moron who made a TikTok insinuating joe cheated and then said she was a minor and critiquing her was evil as a response. This sounds like something that gecko weirdo wants who calls nick Nelson tomato soup and a bread loaf.

Love when people read on here and then pretend it’s their idea for credit

R313 No offense, but you'd have to have perpetual frau brain to think something is missing because they're not like the comics. Joe and Kit play both the characters and the relationship in an actually realistic way. I have not gotten a friends vibe from Nick and Charlie a single time on screen since the characters got together.

R317 tbf, you don’t have to be a genius to come up with that considering there aren’t many other possible scenes with Nick and Charlie in front of Charlie’s house.. still funny they’re acting like it’s a big accomplishment to guess that, even if they actually did guess it themselves. I feel like this being Charlie leaving for or returning from the hospital is the most natural conclusion for anyone familiar with the source material.

Truly, why would you want them to act like insufferable boyfriends when Joe and Kit give them depth?

R318 Nick and Charlie are cute but they are definitely not a representation of real teenagers in love. Especially as gay/queer men. If I had a boyfriend in high school I would be all over them.

R321 Most would, though these people want more cutesy crap. Nick and Charlie are annoying in the comic and don't act like teenage boys. There I said it

R322 have zero real desire for joe and Kit to do a live action gay Disney prince thing and would prefer they do something more mature together in the future, but they undeniably have the looks for Disney live action. Kit has that Disney prince face, joe is the perfect pretty/hot combo with the huge eyes and dark curly hair and smaller frame but also that jawline and body

R321 That's not the issue the person in the CC is expressing. They want them to act like giggly 10 year-olds pinching each other and shit.

I also think it’s pretty clearly implied that nick and Charlie have that cutesy playful side in the show, it’s just joe and Kit have such insane chemistry that they override Alice’s sexless writing and make it charged. The montage at the beginning where Charlie ruffles nicks hair and nick snogs the life out of him, the scene of Charlie tossing himself onto the bed to say they can share one, the scene of nick throwing Charlie over his shoulder onto his back, the multiple scenes of them teasing one another before they make out. They absolutely have a playful dynamic. It’s just not sexless. P similar to joe and Kit who take the piss with one another but also look,horny for each other

R322 It would be nice to see them be more spontaneous with their intimate scenes. I know they have a person choreographing every scene. For example, the kiss at the end of the prom felt very organic and passionate. And I heard it was an improvisation scene.

R318 Well, I don’t care about the comics. Nick and Charlie are not 35 year olds, grown men. I fail to see how it’s “frau like” to say it would be nice if they had more cute, intimate scenes.

In another world, Nick would grab Charlie's ass in passing and Charlie would fake motoboarding Nick's tits... Oh well.

R328 there’s no way they’re not exchanging handjobs at a minimum. Joe looks ready to suck dick in all his scenes and Kit makes nick look like he’s jerking off to the image of eating Charlie’s ass for hours

That NJ Kerley stalker is still around, by the way. He's in the comments of Kit's BMW post. Really hoped he had moved on from Joe and Kit.

R325 I have been reading online about how sex is viewed differently depending on the generation you are born into, and have noticed a few Zoomers (at least they identify as Zoomer in the threads) having said they often feel pressured to have sex before they are ready, and and that pressure comes mostly in the form of criticism from the older queer community. There was for a time a lot of articles online about how Zoomers are having less sex that older generations - which I believe to be untrue. I DO think teenagers in general are having sex at the same rate they always have. But maybe Zoomers just talk about it less due being savvy on internet exposure and being more comfortable with gender fluidity?

I am generally curious though since the conversation here is often that the characters are not representative of queer teens today, when as far as I know, there are no teens here in the thread giving their thoughts.

Not Kit getting some backlash in the comments. People saying it’s a cash grab cuz he can’t drive. How do these people know if he can or not?

R332 probably all referencing Joe’s tiktok comment from a while back. even saw someone on twitter posting he commented that on today’s post and then deleted it after being called out.

I feel like I vaguely remember someone tweeting that they saw Kit in driving lessons at some point. That being said, pretty sure Joe wouldn't be very happy with a funny comment he made months ago being used to criticize Kit.

they really can’t say shit about each other without fans turning into something weird.. coffee is another obvious example. no wonder they‘d eventually dial it back online.

Not a fan now there's no Seb!

I hope the actor that plays Charlie's dad sees this.

R331 I mean I’m 21. So I guess not 15 but think I’m pretty close to the experience. For all the jokes I make, I don’t think they need to canonically be fucking. But I think the spectrum of sexual experience is very real and as written by Alice makes no sense. I’ve said this on these threads before so apologies for repetition but I actually think they could canonically have sex on the same timeline she wants, but in a different way. Their S2 conversation would have been better if it was Charlie not being ready and nick acknowledging they’re a year and a half apart in age, Nick feels more ready, but cares a lot about him and has no issues waiting on his timeline. Then having Charlie’s body image issues be a major reason they wait. I honestly also think that’s a better example to younger people, that if one of you is ready and the other isn’t, you both wait. Not magically ready to lose it in sync.

But also I think it kind of does kids MORE of a disservice that Alice writes them waiting a year and a half to exchange handjobs and then full on nick topping Charlie two weeks later. You can and often should be able to work your way up over months, not that I expect HS to be that graphic.

R338 Fair points. And thanks for the discourse.

R335 I mean a groupchat of many of the big HS accounts openly laughed that their GC name was “Joe’s Weird Toe Thumbs”. They’re just insanely rude.

R338 I would also say the fact that they can’t even say the word “sex” is alarming. They are young teenage boys. I have a younger brother and he makes sex jokes all the time. If Alice wanted to make them be so chaste, she could have turned Truham into a catholic boys school.

I just noticed that Bradley commented "I love ya so much x" on Kit's post. I can't believe that I find such an overt theater kid so endearing.

R339 sorry, just to add further to what I said because I now realize you were originally responding to me at r325, I should clarify sexless. Sexless isn’t that they’re not fucking. It’s that the banter and the playfulness as Alice write them don’t show sexual attraction. You can be very attracted to and horny for one another without being ready to fuck, and that’s totally fine. I don’t think it’s unrealistic that they didn’t bang in season 2, I think it’s unrealistic that in the comics they’ll have moments of thinks like nick picking up Charlie easily and there’s no charged undertone of attraction, even if it stays pretty chaste. I mean she wrote a scene where Tao and aled had to explain to Charlie that he felt honey and where lesbians had to take nick to buy condoms. Her writing of them is insane.

Unless they suddenly decide to stop aiming the show at children and their families I would expect the show to remain the way it is. It's a miracle Joe and Kit do what they do in scenes like the chocolate bar scene. The tension will be because of them and never because of the dialogue.

I don’t know if it’s a closeted thing (not now but as a teenager) or a gay thing or men generally being less affectionate in general where I’m from (but also more generally how we’re raised everywhere) but their level of ‘playfulness’ rings true to me for their circumstances. Nick isn’t out so even in front of mates it is daunting to show that side of yourself. They are really playful in the montage of just the two of them. All the cheek pinching and shit in the comics I always took as the influence of Alice because they were never a gay kid. I can’t imagine myself or any of the other guys I know being like that with our boyfriends at that age. Australian men just don’t role that way

The interview photographer posted another photo of Kit

The Netflix FYC page is like those end of episode montages on ANTM where they'd fade out a model. NHIH was also downgraded, Heartstopper and Sex Education are the two Comedy awards season priorities left.

R345 Idk if I were Charlie I would kiss Nick's face all day long. His cheeks are so adorable. If I were Nick, I would nibble Charlie's ears and kiss his neck repeatedly. I can understand where the fans are coming from.

R347 amazing comparison

R348 yeah, nup. Not for me now or as a teen and I wouldn’t say I’m a particularly repressed version of a guy by standards here

I mean not to be too obvious but we also had the longest coming out storyline of all time done in 6 parts. Nick couldn’t really fondle Charlie in public without tipping people off. And even then they were playing peekaboo and running off giggling to cupboards together in front of an apparently brain dead school population, Now that they’re out wouldn’t be shocked if the cutesy shit was amped up

Totally unrelated but bash using a 🤌 emoji because he’s playing an Italian. For the love of god

In what world is heartstopper a comedy show?

R351 Surprised he didn't use the gun and spaghetti emojis, too.

R352 tbf you can usually say that of about half the shows nominated as comedies

R352 Same world where The Bear is one.

But why no Seb?

R351 he did not do that.

Every day is a good day knowing I don't have to defend that man anymore

R356 He played a small character in the series and was always meant to leave eventually.

Extremely disappointed that we got a picture of Kit peeking out from under a table and none of you have said the obvious yet.

R359 not being funny, I typed and deleted cause I thought it was TOO obvious.

R359 Is Kit a bottom?

R361 No way to know that sadly

Kit updated his finsta. Edinburgh trip, I'd assume.

R361 I would guess vers, leaning towards top.

R362 sure but also, in my head, vers.

if he has time to update his finsta, I guess he’s not attending the GQMOTY Awards. unless he updated some time earlier today.

R365 Yeah, they didn't go. There are afterparty pictures up already and nada.

R366 after party this early? when did the event start?

We really thought we’d get more content after the strike lol

I‘ve given up on content from the cast but I‘m surprised there haven’t been more Charlie’s house filming leaks between Daisy and them being right next to a high school.

R368 can absolutely give up on Kit content now there is sponsored content up. He probably can’t post anything for bit so it stays in that spot. We had a good run for awhile

R370 Yeah and Joe is deleting posts. It’s pretty dead atm. We got lucky with Joe’s halloween post.

R371 Gay Times delete was weird in that I don’t know why he’d bother but he also looks (and is?) 17 and styled really young so, like Jon, I get it.

R372 in line with the "babyfaced children" caption I could see him just wanting to wipe that super young image from the grid, which fair.

It's strange because he said it was a life goal so I'd imagine he would want to keep it on his grid.

Gay Times should take the hint and do an updated shoot with them.

R374 that was more than a year ago. Things have moved on a lot since then. Not at you but it always makes me laugh when people fight about Kit's height because he said he was 5’11 18 months ago. He was a bit of a late bloomer and only finished growing recently (he actually might still have a bit in him). He’s more than made it up

Sorry, R374 my point being at their age things change quickly both physically and how they think. That post made me sound like I have dementia and no understanding of what you were saying

What in the cringe is this

R378 what did I just read?

Speaking of the passage of time, Kit may now drive. Joe left that comment on TikTok months ago and while he was in the US. Fans are obsessed with time standing still on these guys (so they can claim that over familiarity that they love). I’m not saying he does drive but he may - that’s how it works. One day you don’t have licence and then you sit a test and you do

I also saw someone say Kit was the new Centineo meaning his ad made no sense. I do like when Kit expresses himself but the editing did him dirty.

I might just be slow as fuck, but this is the first time I've seen this Kit and Hot Loewe Guy hug? Where the fuck was I for this?

R378 Drugs?

R380 I woke up one day, took the driving test, and passed immediately having never driven a car before. I also took my test in Florida, though, so...

R381 I'm kind of wondering if we're seeing the comprehension level collapse that happened after the pandemic with some of those comments, I thought what he was saying was pretty straight-forward?

R381 that might be the most unkind thing that’s ever been leveled at him, outside of queerbaiting. Centineo is dumb as dogshit

R381 Think that says more about the fans than it does about Kit.

R380 He has to have a license for legal issues. He can't promote a car company without a working license.

R382 how have I not fucking seen this before either??? I dropped the ball on this

R380 The UK is pretty adimant that you have to sit a theory and do at least a block of lessons before your physical driving test but you could do all that in like a month or so if you’re good enough.

Also, in saying that, a LOT of people on our roads need to fucking re-take their tests and they’d fail

R380 right? So he does have a license and all those giggling fuckers on twitter and arseholes on Insta need to cope with the fact that things change in his life they don’t know about.

R387 don’t quote me but I’m pretty sure someone mentioned he was having lessons as far back as S1 promo. He really could have been ready

For all we know everyone misinterpreted Joe’s comment and he just joked about Kit being a shit driver.

I wonder if they finished later today. I was sure they would pop up at GQ MOTY awards.

Apparently Bash is there. Maybe that’s why..

R391

Harry lambert has done it again, cannot stop laughing

R390 They might not have wanted to go from Slough to London and then straight back to Slough, especially if they're tired from filming heavier shit.

R392 He looks like shit.

R391 I sure hope that’s not the reason

I need you all to get the full effect of how bad this whole look is. Cackling.

R395 I don’t actually think that.. though they might have arrived and then spontaneously combusted as soon as they saw whatever R396 that is.

R391 I can see Joe maybe avoiding smaller events after Pride but not a GQ event like this. There are plenty of buffers. Kit absolutely would not avoid something because Bash is there. I know they’re not best mates but I still wouldn’t be surprised if Kit shows up at Bash’s birthday next month.

R396 i will never understand not hemming pants. It makes you look inches shorter

Kit did shiny round toe shoes better, Joe did shirtless under a blazer better, and both have lips. It’s astounding that every piece down to the face card is a miss

They barely made it to the ceremony last time and they weren’t even being honored this time, I get why they’d skip.

R398 with I think the important caveat that I don’t care if Kit goes to bash’s birthday in the slightest, I at this point would be more surprised than not. Bash doesn’t seem to have put any effort into continuing a relationship with will (don’t think they have beef, he’d likely get an invite, but no effort), and has actively alienated both joe and tobie. Given bash’s birthday is right before Christmas pretty decent excuse to miss for “family stuff”. Again, don’t mind if he goes at all, but while I would’ve said back in aqua gust or September high chance he, tobie, and will stopped by, I think chances have decreased

R400 how they got ready in time at all, honestly. Brady and Petra must have expressed them through grooming

Not trying to be horrible, though there’s no nice way to say this, but bash has gotten worse looking since the breakup

R403 Of course he has, he lost Joe Locke then downgraded.

R403 I've been saying that since the play and people tried to tell me it was just his look for the character. He looks like he took a picture of Kit's hair to a groomer and didn't pull it off. Style tragedy aside, he looks kind of sickly in today's picture.

Unrelated but Jack Wolfe’s show, Shadow and Bone, got cancelled. It’s a shame, hardly thought it was incredible but had a lot of POC leading the cast, the guys were all hot, and the gay love story was really cute.

R403 I think he looks the same but ymmv R401 I don’t think they’re close either but was surprised when Joe commented on Connors last post so you never know what goes ok behind the scenes.

R403 not a Bash defender and definitely first and foremost a Joe guy but I think Bash looks like he just doesn’t really know what he’s doing with himself. He seems to have slimmed down (common after a break up) and even his casual style seems a bit less certain. His hair (strong area for him) isn’t great at the moment either. Joe seems to have got a bit more confident in his style and definitely sized down his clothes, where as, without the shared wardrobe, Bash seems to have faulted to a very messy casaul. His formal style is always doomed because of Harry and that Kenough hoodie needs to be binned

R408 I honestly think he looks rough in the face. To be fair to him he’s definitely not ugly, and also to be fair I’ve always found him less attractive than joe, Kit, and will. So maybe he was just already not my type and has gotten less so. I literally think he looks rougher in the face and has sort have had an early twink death. But again, maybe just not my type.

R406 the Ben Barnes thread will be disappointed. I’m surprised they axed it - I thought it did relatively well.

R409 his face has definitely lost some softness (as they all have). Think you’re probably right that he wasn’t really your vibe to start with and less so now he looks older. Doesn’t do much for me and never really has

The slimmed-down face makes him look more ornithic.

R410 Their completion rate wasn't great, 56.8% of the that started the season finished it in 90 days.

Someone posted earlier a comparison and couldn’t find a difference. I’m more on that camp tbh. Don’t think he changed that much but agree with R410 that they all have aged quite a bit and lost some baby fat in the face.

R410 before I sound like a creep for the less my type now that he looks older thing you suggest, though I get your point, I think a lot of it is not so much that he’s aging as I find a lot of older guys hot. I think it’s that features that were never his best are standing out more now and it’s not ideal. His extremely thin lips and kind of closer together eyes are the first things that jump out at me, whereas I think joe and Kit for example have such nice cute features that as their faces lose some softness the things that become more prominent are great bone structure, really soft lush lips, huge dark eyes for joe, kits neat straight nose.

There was a whole bloodbath at Netflix.

R413 absolutely not what I’m implying I assure you. Our faces change throughout life, an earlier change is loss of softness in the face but it’s by no means the first. Both Kit and Joe’s jawlines are examples of that. Not looking older - just different

R415 I def think Joe and Kit look much older now than they did in season1. I sometimes have a hard time rewatching s1 because of it. They look like babies.

R425 nah didn’t think you were being shady to me, just didn’t want to sound like a creep who is turned off by men as soon as they hit 21. Not a gay DiCaprio, just think for some people aging hits harder than others. When you’re hot under just the softness that comes with youth, you’ll be hot at any age really. When youth gave you most of your looks, it’s tough

R416 that’s why I didn’t really get Joe until PFW last year. First time I really saw what a hot, perfect twink he is. S1 Kit looks even younger and actually changed a lot even over the three months they shot. It’s kind of wild. Most of my mates weren’t thirsty for him until the PFW article with the drain singlet or after that. Many discovered him when he got shirtless on YouTube

R417 DiCaprio actually being a perfect example of this himself

Did we ever get the HS completion rate?

Random but just remembered and started laughing about that user on here who used to insist the reason Kit didn’t thirst comment on joes stuff was because like her, Kit found him unattractive. Meanwhile the two of them both clearly find the other horn

R420 ah Rosie

R421 the weirdest projection. Like not finding joe attractive, I guess fine though I don’t know why she felt we all needed to know. But then specifically saying he had bad eyebrows and ears and taking it further to insist he found bash and Will more attractive and that Kit is just too honest a guy and lie and say joe is hot when he thinks he isn’t was weird

R419 I've been keeping an eye out for it and no. The information exists, but someone would have to pay one of the analytic companies (Plum Research, Digital I) for it. None of the sites that report on that kind of thing have paid for the Heartstopper S2 info.

The idea that they have to be secretly horny for each other to find one another attractive is funny. I don’t know why fans refuse to take what they say at face value (Joe when he said they were close friends and Kit when he said Joe was beautiful).

R423 presumably because there isn’t word on S4 yet?

R425 Nah, I remember seeing S&B's completion rate for this most recent season as far back as August.

R420 It was worse that than. Kit didn't say anything nice about Joe because he had nothing nice to say is basically what she said.

If Bash had been cast in that show a year ago, most of the cast would have reposted the news to their Stories. Cori was the only cast member to even like it. Woof.

Kind of cunty but the people who seemed most comfortable being thirsty over S1 Kit were millennial women (teen girls and boys don’t count - he was their age) and Netflix’s Insta account. Maybe gay men were but obviously we have to be a lot more careful saying that. I personally, as I have stated more than once here, only really got on the Kit bandwagon after the slutty hips dance at this year’s pride. It was coming on but that sealed it. The things I would like to do to him

R428 Idk why people htink Kit's going to his birthday party (no shade to the person), when Bash is beefing with two of his true loves, Joe and Tobie. Even Will posted Joe lately on his grid too so seems everyone is firmly on team Joe. Also makes me wonder if some of the reason the main three (Yaz wouldn't bother) aren't doing S2 dumps is they don't want the drama of not including him and don't want to include him.

R429 I feel lucky in that I’m less than a year and a half apart from Kit in age and within a year of joe, so I’ve spotted their hotness from day one. But yeah they both grew up in hot ways. I don’t think s3 or even 4 will be unbelievable looks wise, Kit just has to pass for 1-2 years younger than he is and joe could still pass for 16 with the Charlie hair given the soft voice, huge eyes, and oversized clothes. But the hotness has increased since s1 for sure

R430 no, fair. It’s more to do with how kind and chill Kit seems (again, Rhea relationship remains a mystery). Not sure how someone as prone to conspiracy theories as myself didn’t think of that S2 dump theory but it’s a good one

R430 I don't think Kit would go, but I think part of it is everyone being unsure just how tenderhearted Kit really is, plus Kit having made an effort with Bash for a bit after the break-up.

R431 ah, one of the Gen Z posters, yes, very different experience for you. I watched the whole thing just thinking they were nice looking young guys and then got hit in the face with Joe in a partially transparent Dior singlet. An eye opener

R433 I think another part is that joe so thoroughly is clearly not making anyone take sides that that’s not even a factor. Like there’s no consideration of “would this hurt joe” “would Joe mind” “he’d be meeting Charlie is that weird” because Joe clearly would not be upset at Kit. Bash could learn a lot from his ex!

I like Lee replying to deadline like they might go “our mistake forgot to include Horrible Histories star Sebastian Croft’s name in this!”

R436 Bash stans and their emotes

R435 Wouldn't blame him for going, maybe he could take Will since obviously can't take Tobie. Though I could also see him just not going even if Joe wouldn't mind simply out of loyalty to him. Guess we'll see. Rhea won't be invited.

And the fact that Connor and Charlie are again going to fly to him just says a lot about why I think Joe and Bash ended. He seems to enjoy that more than putting in any effort himself.

the will of will looks better than Bash even in basic tux. really wish Joe was there though too

The fact that I’ve seen some fans say “Ooh, maybe they’re going to see Baby Queen instead” as if they’re her besties and would go out of their way for her mediocre concert lmao

R436 Not all casting news merits more than a throwaway line in an article or a mention in a tweet from a trade. I mean, Joe and Kit can’t relate, but it is what it is.

R439 They run into her one time while on a date and they’re BFFs.

R430 Because Joe is not a weirdo who would make his friends choose between him and his ex. Kit was friends with Bash independent of his relationship with Joe. Anyway, they seem not as close as of late so chances are low.

the one good thing that Bash should be doing is moving on. he needs to purge his grid and highlights like he did his bio and fucking move on. try to act mature for once

They probably just went home.

R438 Everyone but the guys in tuxes looked kinda bad. And why is Kate Middleton Meg Bellamy wearing jeans

R441 Nobody said he would. It's just Bash is a cunt.

R428 thinking of Joe excitedly posting bashs play casting earlier this year a week after bash didn’t bother posting a WOS award win Joe was clearly really excited for

R444 tied myself into knots justifying that one

Is this why we have no S4 news?

r446 i could be wrong but i think the decision to axe HS was made long before the strike

R446 It makes me wonder. Netflix are cheap asses. Yes HS doesn't take a lot of make, but they don't want to pay shit and Joe and Kit have no reason to take a charity project so Netflix can keep making tons of cash with their faces.

I don't really expect too much movement from Joe and Kit on weekdays, those two easily have the most grueling schedules from the cast.

R446 This has always been the case, writers and actors get bumps with renewals. If they're talking about bumps due to the renegotiated SAG-AFTRA and WGA contracts, those won't affect Heartstopper because they're on local contracts (like Equity for the actors).

I do think there will be a s4 but honestly do not mind waiting for news about it for a good while after the cancellations are announced. The level of online bullying Joe especially got after first kill was cancelled is on a level I’ve rarely ever seen and clearly really impacted his self esteem. More hourly hit tweets about how the mediocre acting leads in some other show are allegedly hotter than Joe and it’s his fault somehow are not needed

It’s kinda sad though tbh. They were all close friends and now it’s shit because of the break up. I’m sure Joe would have never guessed that Bash would react that way so in my mind he’ll be x10 times more cautious before dating another close friend.

r451 we have already talked about this and this is NOT the case. joebash was an outlier in terms of they hooked up pretty fast after they met. no reason to compare it with his friends

If HS was being axed it would be on that list or we’ll find out in the next week or so.

If it is the case then S3 better have more episodes and that’ll be why everything is being squished into that season.

I could be wrong, but I don't think we'd get a random announcement on a renewal or cancelation regardless of the decision. We're likely to get something attached to an occasion. An example, if S3 is the last they could say something like, "We've wrapped on the final season of Heartstopper!" when they get to that point. Or they could do what they did with YR, where they sent the guys to a talk show and announced the renewal right before the appearance.

It’s funny that the first instance of me thinking Joe and Sebastian wouldn’t work was thinking how insecure he seemed following JoeKit to Brazil when Joe absolutely doesn’t seem like he would ever cheat.

R452 They were all in a tight-knit circle of friends! That’s what I meant. That circle is broken and now things are weird with Bash and Connor (to a degree). Ofc he’ll consider that outcome before dating another co-star/close friend.

R455 That trip, man. Will never not find it fucking bizarre.

R452 yeah I agree. This all wouldn’t have happened if bash could be normal, tbh. Kit and will and even Tobie, joes closest friends in the cast, all had no issue with bash at first and tried really hard with both. Joe made conciliatory gestures, liking all Connor’s posts with bash in them, bashs film announcement, and not unfollowing or clearing out any of bashs family and friends even from his finsta till after pride. Not saying they would have been best mates but absolutely think Joe envisioned them being able to do group hangouts in a larger group, not turning friends against one another, and being amicable enough to like the occasional career post for one another. This being awkward both for Joe and the others is solely on bash

R455 It was incredibly strange, why was he even there?!

Don’t think Joe would cheat but he seemed to be making the rounds in America but he was unattached so go him

The lesson Joe will take from this long term when looking for something serious (before someone tells me Tal is also a loser, I said serious not rebound fling) is probably don’t rush to overly integrate your lives particularly fast and don’t date a jobless jealous loser, not don’t date a friend. Bash is repeating the cycle with Joe that he did with his ex and that he’ll do with Charlie in the future

R459 ? Joe fucked one guy in America and one guy in England in the six months post breakup, to our knowledge. Unclear how he’s making the rounds.

r459 rebound is a thing

r452 precisely. and i also think he was scared as ending up like Mia out of spotlight but on good terms and somehow even ended up much worse cause he lashed out

I hope at least we get a good few excellent Joe and Kit only photoshoots on the lead up to and during season 3

R462 He also said he wouldn’t date his friends bc it’s weird for him so probably why he likes to date guys he doesn’t already know.

i do find it creepy how quickly he assimilates into the lives of people he didn’t know before dating. it is also a repeating pattern. joe being younger than him quickly learnt about distance and boundaries but Bash just dives in with his entire family

R465 The fact that Bash stans didn't think him and Charlie broke up because Bash's sister was still liking Charlie's comment is weird but they don't seem to realize it

Marvel's F4 casting...kind of scared for the Hulkling casting now, not going to lie. Pedro as Reed and that guy from Stranger Things as Johnny Storm is terrible.

Honestly even if hulkling is sort of Meh I’ll be fine. Joe being the standout of the pair over his muscly blonde onscreen boyfriend would be good with me too. I see it similarly to how I see the A24 synopsis. Ideally it’s fantastic and hot. Worst case it’s campy fun, still hot and gay, and kit and Joe respectively are the standouts and shine

R467 Jesus. Pedro’s going to be 60 by the time these phases of the MCU end. They make fun of the YA for being too old. Thats crazy

Hulkling really doesn't matter all that much and has no personality. Just needs to be big enough to carry Joe around. Though not sure how picking popular actors would make anyone worried if you want Kit.

are we even sure they will bring hulkling ? they already introduced skaar way too early

Ah, okay, I know it’s probably nearly over the line but at least it’s still “in talks”. Maybe they’ll realise Pedro’s knees will probably give out before they even start filming

R428 This is cracking me up since Tobie, Will and Kit are all over GQ liking things

R471 Wicca and Hulking are iconic queer rep in the Marvel universe, they’re not going to replace Hulkling with some CGI monstroity

R469 Pedro's also aging really rapidly. Marvel better put some of that VFX money aside for his face.

R470 I'd love if Hulkling was Kit but I'm operating under the assumption that it isn't happening, so my main worry is a complete miscast like Pedro and what's-his-face.

Great casting is the one thing the MCU still had going for them, Christ.

R469 I’m sure he’ll slim down a bit before next season of The Last of Us but he’s pretty bulky rn. He’s basically the opposite of Reed

this could be the repercussions from the recent barrage of firings. if i am not mistaken Vic Alonso and Sarah Halley Finn, latter renowned for castings such as Paul Bettany and Sebastian Stan, is no longer with Marvel

R478 is Finn gone? She’s pretty genius

R478 Alonso is definitely gone, but I haven't heard anything about Finn leaving? If she's gone, they're fucked.

lpsg living up to its name on joe’s thread

R481 usually lasts for about four posts until they start talking bullshit again. It’s worse than here because they don’t actually know anything. Is hilarious that straight after the caviar gif was reposted here yesterday someone immediately posted it there again

I’m comfortable with our brand of insufferable, don’t need to adjust to a different place’s brand of insufferable.

R482 When they start arguing about if Joe and Bash dated or not I'm out. That usually pops up about every month.

R483 same. Maybe too comfortable tbh.

R482 absolutely. It’s also fucking annoying that they can barely mention Kit because they know the mods might pitch a fit

The LPSG Bash thread remains hilarious (and dead) though

[quote] Ditto. I really saw him and Kit being the stars coming out of Heartstopper, and thankfully Bash broke away from it sooner, so he can avoid the inevitable typecasting. Sadly, I don't think Kit will be so lucky. He's going to be a variation of Nick no matter what he does for a while I fear. So far both of the films he's made are still being shopped with no word on a distributor and he seems pretty focused on modelling now.

Poor unemployed Kit with no distributor for his movies

R486 the idea that bash and Kit would be the only breakouts when joe booked marvel fast and that kits star is fading when he has multiple films lined up and is with WME while bash continues to play friend or family member of the lead in niche projects is hilarious. Will is also doing better than bash while they’re at ir

R486 The level of delusion required to be a Bash stan is hilarious.

R486 How many years did it take for Wonderwell to find a distributor again? And what’s Billy Walsh’s release date?

R467 The idea that being a main character in a very successful (short running, it's not like it's going on for a decade) show is a bad thing while being a minor side character who got written off is amazing is also funny as hell. Kit is 19 and an amazing actor. He's not going to be typecasted by Alice's shitty writing.

And bold of them to talk about Kit's movies while stanning a man who has never had a project that wasn't HS come out on time.

Tbh there’s an element of truth to people seeing Kit and bash being the only real breakouts coming out of s1 before joe landed marvel and wasia took off, but exactly none of that has to do with talent for bash. It’s about homophobia, racism, and transphobia in the industry meaning the two white most “straight passing” guys had the highest chance of breaking out. In kits case, fully deserved since his talent and performance strength were so so high and he deserves to break out. But the reason a lot of people thought bash and not joe might be the other breakout was not because he was better than joe, rest assured.

r489 i am guessing this is you on bash’s lpsg thread. brave and made some excellent points mate but that thread is exclusively for him so won’t be long until mods take action on your account

I mean as much as the Kit shade is hilarious and nonsense, the complete lack of joe mention is even funnier. Went from Emmy nominated for first screen role to award winning for first play role to marvel lead for second screen role. But sure bash is doing better

R492 I left the comment and logged out, I have no use for an account there when all of the show-related threads are infested by morons.

R492 They are all brave to post about Charlie. He’s been on the Do Not Post list for years. Whole thread seems like if it was anyone else it would get closed. They talk about HS, Kit, Charlie. If Bash was anyone that mattered at all it would have been done ages ago

They don't really ban you there, they just remove the comment. I've had like 12 comments removed that weren't even OT and stopped posting last year because the mod team is fucking stupid since off topic crap is there all the time

I really inspected aisling’s video of bash she posted to see if I could find any evidence of an ass. Sadly not.

R491 I never saw Bash as a breakout and the people that did are, frankly, stupid. When the reviews of the show came out, Bash's performance wasn't cited as a highlight by any critics. It was all Joe, Kit, Joe, Kit. Meanwhile, the media anointed Yaz as the fresh new find. He would have needed to garner actual attention in order to be a breakout and the only people who gave a fuck about him were the ones that were interested in the fact that he was dating Joe and that he provided Joe and Kit content. No one in the media cared, none of the critics cared.

R497 Apparently he's been working out, but it doesn't look like it. He looks thinner. Expect a thirst trap with negative ass and pecs soon

R495 That's interesting. Charlie's super controlling about his image for someone who is a nobody

R496 meanwhile for about 30 posts Joe’s thread turned into a discussion about Skins which has remained up. We bounce around all over the place here but we’re not going to get our posts deleted. I’m not even sure Muriel’s still alive at this point. I wonder if she has been eaten by her cats

R498 I think you’re not wrong but you’re missing my point. What people were saying on here, even back then when they liked bash, was that joe and Kit were clearly the two best. Kit was in addition to his talent more straight passing and likely to be cast opposite women, and thus would breakout. The bash breakout discussion wasn’t saying “he got so much buzz” it was looking at how disproportionally large his following was for his size in the show and saying ok, joe is gay and that is fucking hard in this industry, bash might honestly do better off this because he straight passes more, isn’t out and teen girls are into him. For instance he got billy Walsh off the back of HS.

R499 must be nudes out there

R500 Muriel was crushed to death by all of the donations for the Darfur Orphan.

R501 Oh, you meant the morons on here that wanted to fuck Bash. I thought you meant the real world.

R501 I get your point, but most of his buzz was because he hung around Joe (and Kit to an extent). He would be more Cormac level without Joe, which I know he's aware of considering he won't remove the Joe pictures from his IG.

And just to be petty, a few critics listed Ben/Bash as one of the bad points in S2.

R503 howling

R504 again I don’t think people who thought bash might break out are all morons. Perhaps I’m being unclear. Some were, like the idiot on LPSG who clearly still thinks bash is a breakout. Others were people who were not willing bash to break out, but said he might anyway because he had a leg up on joe, Yaz, will, etc by being white, cis, male, and not out as gay and more passing. Acknowledging that the industry is fucked up and thus even without a lot of talent someone with all those features is more likely to do well isn’t being a moron imo. It was, from what I recall, some people saying stuff basically like it was a bummer that despite all joes talent and good looks, because he was out as gay and passes less bash might book bigger roles. I think they’re all thrilled to be proven wrong, but I get the underlying thinking

R505 not arguing against that. Just saying people who thought bash might be a breakout weren’t all just thirsty gays (maybe some were), more people who were cynical about how much the industry would embrace the non white straight passing cis guys of the cast

R503 I can't wait for one of the Bash stans to read this, not get the joke, and start claiming that we're mocking orphans now.

R509 the amount of people who lurk here who have no fucking idea what happens on any other part of the site is presumably half DLs traffic

R509 bash’s dinosaur shirts help queer people. Some queer people are orphans. Maybe one lives in darfur. In sum we are mocking bash’s work to save orphans.

Just thinking that it is kind of bizarre how this thread evolved. Who knew a bunch of gays on a barely functioning gossip board would become the go to source of gossip for a puritanical fandom that is full of teen girlies and frau. Not a brag. Really weird and misguided, as most of the shit we talk is just that. It’s good Reddit is lifting their game. We are not reliable

I can’t take this Bash shade here too seriously knowing he was most favorite after Joe once.

R513 I think that was mainly as an accessory to Joe and those couple guys who were longtime fans

R513 Half of the people who "liked" him only did because he was around Joe, the other half got run off after the break-up.

The thread has changed a lot over time. It hasn’t always been anti bash sure, but don’t think he was a favorite behind joe for most of the people who now hate him. For one( the early days of the threads were absolutely vile about Joe too, in addition to kit, so it’s hardly like kit was the lone person everyone hated. For a while on DL, bash was the only one getting praise, kit was a fat queerbaiter, and joe was literally compared to a monkey, the hunchback of Notre dame, called deformed, and people said he was punching unbelievably with bash and that it was unrealistic kit would be with someone as ugly as him in the show. Then around the time of kits coming out, some of the more vile posters started getting pushed out and I would say by December 2022 this was comfortably a very pro both kit and joe space that was also fond of bash. The fondness was primarily he seemed like a nice gay kid, some thought he was hot though pretty consistently even pre breakup he was rated least hot on here, and a great bf to joe. Some of his big fans undoubtedly quit DL after the breakup but also think the implication that people are faking their shade as though it’s not normal and natural to change your feelings on someone when they show poor character is weird. And would say joe and kit are prettt equally loved on here and have been since around December last year. Until around september or October 2022 though both were talked about really poorly by a lot of posters.

R516 I’d disagree on your timeline. I think most of the big hate was gone by well before Joe’s birthday last year. When Kit came out it was already pretty accepted he was queer here, with a few hold outs (who were absolute cunts). Certainly the first 12 hour list of who was the hottest was before then. Surprises all around to discover how many twink loving gays there were. No surprises Bash was the bottom of most lists

The first time scene better be good enough that this intimacy coordinator TikToker ‘geeks out’ like this about it and we’re all like “Damn…” when we see the scene but I doubt it.

R517 I was primarily a lurker until October or so, around con time, because I was always more into Kit and joe and remember thinking people on here were dicks about them. So you’re probably right tides turned before then. I just recall that time as being when I personally noticed and got involved. But I think my major point remains, that bash wasn’t favorite next to joe for most people and painting Kit as everyone’s number 3 on here is weird.

R513 as someone who defended Bash constantly I mostly did it for Joe tbh. I did not cherry pick 4000 miles reviews to post because I was moved by his acting and personality. Though I did say last year everyone would dump him the minute he and Joe were done.

Hadn’t ever seen this Joe pic. He’s so gorgeous. Anyone know the source?

R520 That’s why I say I don’t trust the shade. I remember Bash being posted here more than Kit at times. I know how well liked he was (or seemed). The fact that the break up was enough to change people’s minds completely makes me think a lot were secret haters. No one has really defended him and he had a lot of supposed stans before. Would not be surprised if some here are that way about Joe or especially Kit.

Oh the especially kit. Now I know who posted that. Moving right along.

R521 he’s gorgeous

R521 It's from a personal page. There are a couple of more but I've always felt weird about posting them, so I compromised by just posted the shirtless one.

R524 without giving more detail, is it recent or an old one someone posted?

R525 It's from his Sicily trip.

R526 got it, thanks. He’s crazy good looking

Actually, I don't remember what has or hasn't been posted. Maybe they're all out there by now?

R528 v6, v9, and v13 are not out. Think v12 is thanks solely to you

R523 And yet you have no intelligent things to say about my valid point. Typical. Carry on

Putting it up to a vote, should I just post them?

I was unfortunately raised semi-decently so while I never liked Bash, I respected that other people did so tried to keep the shit-talking to a minimum. I’ve always been a Kit and Joe guy.

R531 I mean I vote yes with a dick filter

R531 Pretty sure Joe would not be pleased but you do u

R531 up to you but I agree put the transparent dick images over them if so

I think if they include his mates and aren’t public then probably not, so really only bottom left

R531 I would say wait to see if the account leaks another one and if they do you might as well rip the bandaid off.

And dick watermark always

R534 pretty sure Joe would fucking hate us regardless if he knew about us

While the morality debate among the immoral rages on (kidding), this is a charming thread.

Guess this was sort of the consensus?

R540 he’s so hot. Shame on whoever took that photo and didn’t get his cute little ass in frame

R541 straight friends, terrible at knowing what’s important. Not Sam, I’m pretty sure he’s queer

R539 Missing the Comic-Con shrug. R540 Joe’s always hot but Sicily Joe has me in a chokehold.

R428 couldn’t even get a like from his boyfriend or Connor. Sad days. Looking forward to him pretending the GQ look was good tomorrow morning

They should fuck

R544 Zak Maoui and GQ love Bash so it’s possible he might get rewarded for the toddler pants with some kind of write up

R546 I think they tend to write about all the HS guys due to engagement. Wouldn’t be surprised if he got an article but as his engagement continues to decrease I think he’ll sort of fall off article wise.

R547 His engagement is still doing fine on instagram and tiktok compared to other actors. It’ll be interesting to see his career development pass heartstopper.

He turned off likes on IG so hard to judge how good his engagement is

See this is why I didn’t like when someone suggested they missed the event because of Bash. Joe and Kit are not skipping events because Bash is there… cmon

They have jobs (as lead characters). They barely made it in time for last year when they were honored.

Though I actually read what she wrote now and nobody ever called Bash unprofessional for not going to an event Joe went to? In what world. We just all knew he wasn't invited.

Goddamn it. Whenever you guys post a cc here I lose half an hour to the inanity. I can’t stop reading the delusions

R553 It's a trip. Enjoy Charlie modeling with his Bash bracelet at a very overpriced used clothing website from a bunch of rich kids selling their clothes. Still too good for Bash though.

lucy barely opens her account to strangers anymore so i don’t see any reason to ‘gatekeep’ the source

That'd require the source to be Lucy's Instagram.

R550 I feel like if I were here I'd be more concerned with the fact that Bash looked the way he did and that his attendance made no noise. He's basically a seat-filler at this point.

Late, but I didn't realize that Andrew Scott brought up Heartstopper in his GQ MOTY profile. Kit must've been thrilled.

[quote]Depictions of gay relationships on screen and stage have historically tended to focus on the trauma and pain that can come with those experiences. But a new wave of storytellers are focusing on the tenderness of all kinds of sexuality with the same wide-eyed joy as straight coming-of-age stories. Scott references shows such as Heartstopper for giving the current generation the experience of seeing themselves represented in a way that feels both novel and important. “I just think it’s so wonderful that people can see themselves,” he says. “There’s a sort of hysteria about it, [but] different forms of sexuality have existed since the dawn of humanity.”

R555 but her highlights are no longer public, right? or did she block account number 99 I opened again after she blocked all the others?

r55 just be grateful it got posted at all and move on

r558 she opens them little bit after she posts something

r556 it’s either Lucy or Sam most of the time. sometimes the curly one that i don’t follow

Just weird for bash’s fan in chief to mention joe nonstop to try to throw shade and then as soon as someone mentions bash she says to keep his name out of her mouth. Also she was 28 when joe was 19. She really had beef with a teenager on behalf of bash of all people. Sad

Also her gloating that maybe joe and Kit didn’t attend an event because bash was there — I mean, absolutely untrue, but also would not say good things about bash if so? Would actually be not a great indictment on him considering joe and Kit are in fact consummate professionals

R561 Again, she is delusional to think anyone ever said Bash skipped fashion events because of Joe

R563 I think she is remembering people saying he was unprofessional for pride, which he was, and projecting. No one cares if the man didn’t go to Ami. People cares that he, a written off minor character, went to pride and was all over the whole cast but especially Kit, and made Joe, the lead, so viscerally uncomfortable and unable to interact with Kit, his colead. Bit different

R564 That's more Netflix's fault than Bash if he was invited. We can't expect him to stay in a corner and not mingle with his friends.

Wonder if they’re filming at Charlie’s house again today?

R565 not mingling is very different from what he did.

Joe did a video for Patti Lupone?

R565 except that’s exactly what Joe did as a result of bashs attendance. Look, Joe made overtures before pride that we saw, liking bashs movie announcement, not unfollowing any of his useless family and friends on finsta. Meanwhile bash had everyone unfollowing Joe. If he wasn’t prepared to be polite if distant from his ex, he shouldn’t have gone. But also, no one is saying overall don’t go and don’t socialize. Anyone with common sense would say go, each of you sort of chill in a specific part of the float giving each other space, and let friends come hang out. Instead bash literally reached over Joe while ignoring him to grab kit as Joe talked to him: that’s fucked up.

And the fact that he was unprofessional there is prettt clear in how the cast treated and rallied around Joe versus the literal eye rolling at bash.

R567 What did he do? I saw a couple of videos from Pride and they were all having fun, dancing while greeting fans.

Does anyone know anything about a video that Joe recorded for Patti Lupone?

R566 yes, they are

R569 could someone link the video of Bash interrupting Joe and Kit? I don’t recall that specific moment

R569 I'm confused. Isn't that what they did? They remained on opposite sides of the float which was minuscule, by the way. If Netflix invited both of them, there is nothing more they could have done to escape one another. In the videos I saw, Joe wasn't making eye contact with him. It's a tricky situation but it happens all the time at work events when colleagues date or used to date.

R570 as 569 said, there are multiple videos of him reaching over Joe to grab Kit while joe was talking to him and pull him away, trying to waylay Kit as Kit was on his way to say hi to Joe, when Joe turned away from a conversation with Yaz for literally a second to take a fan pic bash grabbed Yaz immediately and turned his back on joe, and many other examples.

Bash was such a dick at pride that a lot of users even on twitter who were pretty sympathetic to him like Shay admitted he was acting a cunt.

R571 Apparently a friend of someone on twitter was at the event and send her the video.

R573 you’re pretty clearly determined to think poor bash did nothing wrong so not going to try to change your mind even though if you actually look at old threads you will see this is the popular consensus of how that day went down.

R576 I am not determined to think of anything here. I am asking you to give me clear examples of what you fail to do. What am I supposed to gather from this?

R577 I literally did. I said Joe stayed in one place and let people come to him and bash didn’t. R574 then gave several more examples you then ignored. Not my job to do further research for you. Look at old threads, read what people have replied to you, or do neither and continue insisting bash was all good, doesn’t matter

Pride was a mess for everyone and fans didn’t help when they wrote all those comments on the insta page. So embarrassing. Anyway, we really need some new content.

R571 his hair is so good.

Olivia briefly mentioned HS here. I wonder if she’s no longer part of the show or has already wrapped for S3 and there won’t be a fourth, because she talks about it like it’s a past experience.

R581 If she’s filming for a day or two, I get why she would refer to the show that way but who knows.

R581 I could be wrong, but I'm guessing part of it is that they worded the question to her that way (like "How was working on HS?") and part of it is that she's talking specifically about S1. I'd be surprised if she wasn't in it when they're so accommodating with her schedule and it takes her a day or two.

Fans that mind their business and just post pictures are so fun. This account is great.

R583 sure, could be the wording of the question. this is becoming a thing, like Brad and Chetna editing their captions on their S2 dumps.

R584 joe fans who said he didn't have abs need to be exiled

Think the fans are being overly paranoid in general, but we'll see. The only one that really read like they were done to me before the edit was Bradley.

I think fans are being overly paranoid. Everyone is posting and discussing now because the strike is over, so the photo dumps are naturally retrospective

I wish we got this type of content with Kit and Joe. Can’t wait to see this film

I get the feeling we’re missing out on a lot the longer they go without being interviewed by someone fun. Their banter would be great on Chicken Shop or Graham Norton.

R590 I would genuinely love, though doubt it’ll happen, to see them together on hot ones

Looks like they‘ve moved on to Spring family scenes. The actress who plays Charlies mum is on set today. Reported by the girl who went private.

The schedule this year is all over the place.

Are there any chances of them doing CCXP this year? It starts Nov 30 and ends on Dec 2nd, and unlike last year when they went right after S2 wrapped, they'll probably still be filming S3 in December.

so Bash’s full look was Loewe

R592 Joe with the heaviest workload this week, Kit with a lighter load, and the rest of the cast mostly off. (Not my favorite kind of loads to discuss.)

R594 I'd say the chances are really slim.

R595 All of the brands in the world and he's desperate to get in with Jonathan. I'd be worried about getting Single White Female'd if I were Kit.

Not sure Jonathan is going to be moved by someone who makes his clothes look bad but ymmv

R595 Gosh can’t he find another designer and be original for once?

R595 I knew the shoes were, they’re the glittery version of the ones Kit wore to vogue world. Loewe, like most brands, has some incredible looks and some shit looks. Unlike kit who actually has a great Loewe relationship and unlike both Kit and joe who could wear a garbage bag and be hot, bash really showcases the shit looks.

R594 probably not though would love it.

R596 need Kit to put a load in Joe (or several)

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