Heartstopper

Our gospel

Down horrific

R2 Have never seen someone be that down bad.

Fuckable twink

Fuckable twunk

Overdue repost of the hilariously horny chocolate bar scene. Kit looks ready to eat joes ass and bend him over. Joe looks ready to get thrown around and split in half

R2 A week for the books. That photoshoot, the lack of personal space at DC Pride, Kit lending Joe all of his shit, Kit in boyfriend photographer mode.

Thanks for answering the A24 question in the last thread.

At least they haven’t been shut down again (yet).

R3 And Joe watching a random fan account’s story on ig of this the other day. Having flashbacks.

R7 it is genuinely touching but also fucking hilarious how badly Kit missed him. The second he saw him again, fresh off breaking up with their mutual, he was plastered against him, photographing him nonstop, teasing him, cuddling him, applying his moisturizer, licking his thumb to wipe his face, dying with laughter at anything he said. Pathetic! Relatable.

R7 Bash was so fucking triggered. He’s lucky Kit and Joe are a decent friend and ex respectively and didn’t turn NY/DC into a fuckfest tbh.

R11 if joe and Kit are sent on a US press tour just them for HS S3, it’s over for bash. By which I mean he will spiral even further when joe and Kit give into sexual tension and fuck

R11 Sucks to suck, but Bash losing the Heartstopper cast (even people he was individually close to like Kit and Tobie) to Joe is still so funny.

Unrelated, but Joe hasn't liked any Lego posts in over a week. Do we think it's safe to unfollow him?

R13 I unfollowed ages ago.

R13 I’ll make the sacrifice and continue to follow him because I find his downward spiral hilarious.

R12 I hope it happens, but don’t know how the fuck they’d fit that into their schedule.

R13 I think it’s safe to unfollow in that he obviously doesn’t play a role in Joe’s life anymore. Joe also hasn’t liked any of Lego’s brother’s last 6 posts. There hasn’t been any indication they’ve spent time with each other for a whole month. I think Joe will likely continue to like some of Lego’s posts that are not tattoo related, and maybe they’ll hang out again, but genuinely seems dead between them.

R15 I unfollowed, don’t wanna contribute to the follower count any longer but continue checking for that same reason

R13 They’re done, it’s blatantly obvious. Don’t even fear jinxing anything by saying that.

It's for sure done and I'll go as far as to say they won't even meet up anymore. I'd say I want the tea, but I'm assuming joe wasn't feeling it and the birthday painting from hell and the attention whoring from it just was the last straw.

Props to the person who will keep us updated on his pizza consumption. Also I expect that painting to pop up and get painted over.

I am also following for the downward spiral. The repercussions of being denied Joe’s magic pussy are comically tragic

R20 it’s a cautionary tale for sure.

R19 honestly wouldn’t be shocked if tals pettiness and nonstop selfies after joe ended it gave him too much of an ick to want to even hook up casually again

Cracking Joe and Tobie edit for the truthers. Enjoy

R22 I’m not a truther but continue thinking that literally every queer man in joes vicinity is enchanted by him and gives him whatever he wants. King twink

All jokes and speculation aside: They’re pretty damn sweet.

She annoys me normally but have you never had any sense of humor before that you think this is hilarious? Clearly he won’t actually be driving. It’s tv magic for a reason Jesus moron.

R25 Moment of silence for the poor soul in the replies who thinks he's getting a license just to film a scene.

Joe’s body double posted

Seems like possibly an early day for the whole group between that and a lot of the cast reacting to Cormac's birthday post before 9.

New photo of Kit at Halloween

I’m assuming that Joe’s fake blood actually covered his whole body and Kit got the bit on his face because it was buried in Joe’s arse. Prove me wrong

R29 That's the moron that started the conspiracy theory that the random with a halo was Kit. Anyway, here's the post directly.

ImgBB is (shockingly) down again, but Imgbox works as an alternative.

do not understand why they have to make posts like these at all. it is HIS choice to talk about it, doesn’t mean he wants it broadcasted

R33 Same site that nominated Kit for that “Closet Door Bustdown” award alongside other people that came out under shitty circumstances, like Rebel Wilson. Why are they so fucking weird about coming out in particular?

Seeing Kit with the make-up convinced me that the guys all went for simple costumes because they went from set directly to the party. They're all wearing normal clothes plus a prop (Joe with the wings, Kit with the leather jacket, Tobie with the horns) and I would garner to guess that the MUA on set did the horror make-up for them.

Bash surfaced to wish Cormac a happy birthday.

Is Cormac on the show this season? I haven’t seen a leak picture with Harry yet

R36 also to post a Barbie and ken pic with Nell that’ll delight his few fans

This from some marvel nerds on twitter made me laugh. Joe is playing Wiccan so Wiccan is a bottom. Case closed

Did they get plastic surgery?

r39 that is funny because even before Joe was cast, Wiccan was clearly the bottom in comics, they referenced it multiple times. what a weird hill to die on

R39 Hoping they don’t give Joe this ugly ass haircut

R42 I think they probably won’t, the haircut was edgy for the time it was drawn but now just a standard fuckboy haircut. The curls are way better so manifesting they leave it alone

The cringe caption, the photoshop, the liking a comment that says he looks like James Dean from a person who is clearly legally blind.

Ok, I didn’t notice this until literally today but wonder if it fits into the general bash enmity with tobie. Joe may be too nice to unfollow the dickheads who unfollowed him, but tobie is a real one. He unfollowed Nell at some point recently. He used to follow her, and she still follows him.

Speaking of Wiccan, Grace Rudolph said yesterday she's worried the show is going to be too LGBT to appeal to a wider audience. Personally, I see no problem.

Around the 8:30 min mark.

R45 He for sure followed her. Bash and the unemployed pissing off freaking Tobie of all people is insane. And obviously Joe has noticed all the unfollows if Tobie has.

Also Bash popping up to interact with Cormac made me laugh.

R46 what a bizarre take. Honestly one of the issues marvel has had is trying to make projects too broad appealing instead of leaning into a more specific audience. There was a good piece I now can’t find on how The Marvels both tried for the girl power thing but didn’t lean into it being a funny movie appealing to female senses of humour or preferences, and how that hurt it at the box office. Wiccan just being gay at all, especially a gay edgy twink and not a muscle gym bro, was always going to turn some people off. Appealing to a demographic who loves Wiccan and the YA and leaning into the type of thing that gets great reviews is smart

R47 tobie has always seemed really protective of Joe, and while joe seems really overall content about the breakup I’m sure it hurts to have people treat him like dirt, so not surprised tobie is pissed on his behalf.

Tobie unfollowed like 50 people last week. I can't recall if he followed Amybeth or Emily, though neither follows him anymore.

R50 pretty sure he followed Amybeth but she didn’t follow him. But tobie isn’t the type to get offended by lack of mutual follow so I’d guess his unfollowing her is linked to joe, especially as he unfollowed Nell who still follows him

R47 the Cormac thing made me laugh too. With no shade to Cormac, bash has truly lost all the main cast and has to resort to more and more fringe side characters to try for loyalty. First rhea, now Cormac. Soon he’ll be commenting on the rugby guys

R52 It's not going to work, Cormac seemed particularly fond of Joe at the NTAs and he's close to Kit and Tobie. Don't think I've ever seen him give too much of a fuck about Bash even when they shared a bunch of scenes.

And completely mostly unrelated tea, but apparently Bella and Pedro got beef now. I like to think he told Bella to make better choices in who they hang out with and Bella got offended.

I really think the only reason Tobie still likes Bash‘s posts is to avoid fandom drama, especially because Joe would get dragged into it, and that’s exactly what happened when he left Bash out of the S2 dump.

R54 They both seem extremely annoying, surprised it took them this long to clash.

R55 Tobie seems most aware of what's going on in the fandom, espeically on twitter, so leaning towards probably

R54 imagine giving up connections with Pedro pascal and a friendly relationship that could’ve been legit friendship with Kit and joe for Amybeth, her weird Kiki friend, and bash

speaking of Tobie, he also posted on finsta. either they’re gatekeeping Halloween content or maybe they posted King Lear..

R55 Only reason I don't completely agree is because he's liked Bash-related posts that no one would blink twice about if he skipped, like the MUAs posts and some of Connor's posts. But it makes sense that he'd clear out Bash's friends regardless, if (as we suspect) all of the cast's friendships have weakened with Bash after the break-up then there's no point in keeping around the people he followed as friend of a friends.

R59 Matching date night posts.

R59 guessing Halloween. If they were posting kissing pics on main, their finstas may be wild. While that irks me, it also means there’s a higher chance that there’s a pic of Kit grabbing joes ass so I’ll continue to believe that’s what they’re hiding

R60 I mean, he is also friends with that makeup artist and friendly at least with Connor. I also think joe is so nice he legit didn’t have an issue with Connor for a long time (though I note they skipped one another’s most recent posts so maybe Connor spending two plus weeks in London with Charlie and bash and not trying to see joe even once turned him off). I think the truth is in the middle, tobie doesn’t hate bash and isn’t going to cause drama but if bash unfollows him, he’ll follow suit and isn’t interested in “trying” to cling onto the friendship. And there’s no point in following his useless mates at all

R60 yeah fair.. it’s mostly Bash unfollowing him on tiktok that makes me lean more towards they are already not pretending to hold onto the friendship anymore, but Tobie likes a lot on insta anyway, so I guess it doesn’t have to be about avoiding fandom drama and could just be him liking whatever‘s on his feed.

r46 what the fuck does ‘too LGBT’ even mean ? the show has two gay characters and two lesbian characters. if anything it is not ‘LGBT enough’ since even the comics were targeted at queer YA audience

Unfollowing a mutual friend because he posted your ex, who he is also friends with is unhinged behavior. Please Kit do a tiktok with Joe to see if he does the same thing, though guessing Kit gets some grace that tobie does not

R64 I guess Grace thinks you gotta appeal to the Captain American/Spiderman bros who hate the show anyway and constantly whine about how it's useless.

R65 would be hilarious if Bash had people who are likely to post Joe muted on insta and as that’s not an option on tiktok, Tobie’s video jump-scared him, so he snapped and hit unfollow.

R45 Ngl I find it weird that they let their friends unfollow these people and they don’t unfollow themselves. No one would care if Joe unfollowed Bash’s friends.

R67 was it weird to you when will unfollowed Sof before Kit did? Or just Joe? joe doesn’t “let” Tobie do anything. Tobie of his own volition probably decided he wasn’t going to see any of these people again, had no friendship with them, and didn’t like how they treated Joe. Joes entire thing this whole breakup has been being the bigger person. Him continuing to follow them isn’t “weird” or a character flaw or whatever.

R68 Relax. I just find it weird. I don’t get the reasoning from Joe’s mind to keep following those losers who clearly don’t give a shit about him. I also find it weird from Bash’s side and he’s the one with all the couple pics still on his gram.

what does Alice's post mean? are they on set?

I'm assuming they are. Will never understand how she can like Charlie so much and give Joe shit to do. Maybe she just likes comic Charlie

R79 Yeah, it’s one of the classroom sets. The “habits of mind” thing is a teaching tool.

R69 imo it’s weird from bash’s side because he clearly really resents joe. If he and joe were on kit and Maia terms, I wouldn’t find it weird to still have them up. Joe seems not bitter and bitchy about the breakup, so him not rushing to meet bashs weird unemployed friends level of pettiness and immaturity isn’t weird.

R73 It’s not like Joe has an issue with unfollowing people he doesn’t care about. He unfollowed Billy really fast. If Maia was petty and her friends all unfollowed him, I would find it weird if Kit still followed them but ymmv

Assuming Bash has never gotten dumped or had someone decide not to see him anymore, so he can't deal with it on any rational level. Anyway, good for Tobie. He's a real one. I also want Joe to unfollow those people simply because they don't deserve the follow, but I'm assuming he'll do it one day when he does his IG clean ups

R74 I mean we clearly disagree. I just think what you find weird from Joe I find to be yet another sign of his maturity but ok. We all pretty much agreed Billy specifically was a sore spot for Joe somehow in the breakup since he was the ONLY person Joe unfollowed and he unliked a post of his. Clearly whatever Billy did isn’t something he felt as strongly about with Amybeth, nell, and Emily. And while not unfollowing, there were a few months where kit still liked maias posts when she didn’t like his (think they both intermittently like one another’s now) and the consensus on here was he was really mature for that, so

it is not weird, it is a sign of growth from experiences. from how he handled the break up as well as the rebounds, Joe has clearly grown a lot personality wise

You also have to remember that it's a bigger deal when Joe, Kit, and (comparative to his friends) Bash unfollow people. We're how many months out from the break-up? Doubt either Joe or Bash want the drama from the fans to kick up again. Tobie both has less people paying attention to his social media activity and unfollowed people as part of a big purge, not as a targeted jab.

Can agree with Joe, not sure the other guy cares about any drama happening. But anyway, Joe will unfollow one day along with a big group of other accounts

R79 Mostly mean that I doubt he wants his fledgling TikToker career to be made about Joe in the comments of his videos.

Ending the week on a Thursday. They’re halfway through now, right?

R81 Yeah, guess they'll be done in mid-Dec sometime.

And I know Joe has to be filming scenes on set, but nothing that's being filmed that we've seen point to anything but just speeding through all of Charlie's storyline, which I know we've said a million times but I will continue to bitch about it.

R82 wouldn't be shocked if they stick to filming mainly in the school (and Charlie's house, as we know) in the coming weeks. hopefully that means plenty Charlie scenes but that’s optimistic..

R83 I get the pessimistic attitude but what else is there to film? Unless Alice wrote a script completely different from the comics and I don’t think she did.

R82 I wonder if we get a repeat of last year. If the strike gets wrapped up, he might end up back in Atlanta in January if they have any Agatha reshoots.

R84 It's less she changed things and more she's going to add padding to every storyline but Charlie's. And tons of side character/couple content since they aren't even in this part of the comic at all and of course it has no Isaac and Imogen.

R84 I mean she definitely added storylines for Imogen and sahar and isaac and I presume tao/Elle and Tara/darcy, plus now there’s Tori and Michael. Add to that her determination to make everything that ever happens in Nick’s life throughout the entire comics into season 3 rather than holding it till s4, I’m doubtful.

I wonder when / if we will hear if season 4 is happening

Would Joe and Kit even agree to it do we think ?

Or would they be strongly encouraged by agents or management (for the right price) ?

R88 I think they'd do it. It's easy work and they enjoy it and they get to work with some of their best friends. They are still very young and a steady paycheck on a very popular show is hard to pass up even if they might feel they outgrow the contents of the show. If Netflix wants to be cheap asses I could see them holding out though.

R89 agreed. I feel like they’d maybe hold out for more pay and a stronger ability to dictate filming schedules or something so they didn’t have to decline other work for it, but would happily come back for a final season

I think they’d do season 4 because they enjoy it and the people they work with but I do think they’d negotiate a pay rise!

What everyone else said, plus both of them signing on would mean another season of work for people like Tobie and the crew. They both seem empathetic, so I imagine that would also factor into their decision.

The CAF Emmy nominations were released today, Heartstopper would've swept again. Makes me laugh that none of the High School Musical actors got in, even with Heartstopper being ineligible.

R92 while I get your point, tbh I can’t imagine that would be a factor in the end. I don’t think you can really think like that when you’re building a career, and I really hope no one on set would be expecting that of them.

Did Joe archive a post when he posted for Halloween? I thought he was 37 before as well

R95 He was at 37, Halloween was post 38, and then he archived a post and went back down to 37. IIRC someone on here said it was a Jon Magazine shoot post that he archived.

R96 cheers. I know some people loved it but I never rated that shoot. If one had to go I’m glad it was that one

In more Insta nonsense. I didn’t realise that Kit and Manu didn’t follow each other. As Kit’s work with Maia was picked up because of the follow it makes me believe the movie is a cert even more

R98 yeah and they met before at Loewe too. honestly im thinking that they wont follow each other until a little bit before its announced to the trades

I’m surprised they didn’t already. Bless Kit, he follows most people he’s interacted with at events

Dylan posted Joe to her recent photodump

Okay, well i fucking love how she did her post. A walk through the posts is great

Tal is 100% going to unfollow her now lol

The My friend Joe thing was cute. Dylan is great.

Bash unfollowed Bradley and then refollowed him. Not sure how he could accidently do that, but who knows. He's on Bradley's recent follows on his IG so he for sure did it.

Yeah, that’s basically impossible to do accidentally. He must have decided he could get away with it and then changed his mind (Kit does seem to love Bradley after all).

R106 seeing Joe on peoples IGs really does trigger him, damn

Bash skipping the last 34 of Olivia’s posts because she’s friends with Joe and following Sabrina carpenter right after Olivia and Joe went out together is still so damn funny. Especially because he used to follow and like all of Joshua’s basset’s posts before Joe (he has a type) and literally unfollowed him the day he met olivia last year. Hard for him to bear when his clout chasing fails I guess

I know there was a big ‘what’s the mature things to do’ upthread but unfollowing seems crazy to me. Bradley isn’t doesn’t seem that close to Joe (despite being the best photographer of him) and it was just a few photos which included Kit.

R109 Olivia and Joshua are seemingly friends and on good terms now so maybe Bash will get there one day.

R110 Bradley posted the Joe and Tobie kissy pic, which I guess is enough.

[quote]despite being the best photographer of him

Go to bed, Bradley.

R111 Bash's Drivers License is coming!

R113 tbf it’s kind of true. Kit takes boyfriend pics. Tobie takes adoring pics. Bradley takes pics where Joe looks literally angelic, pun not intended. The one of Tobie holding him at pride is another high point. The ones who love you truly take the best pics of you. We never should have trusted Connor

R111 Joe is basically a saint and bash is desperate enough for attention to eventually pretend to stifle his hatred

R113 first time I’ve been accused of being a theatre gay. I liked it.

R114 that Pride pic of Tobie and Joe is absolutely one of the photos that gives me the most cute aggression. The things I’d like to do to that man

R111 Bash gives me the vibes of a guy who thinks he was too good for Joe and he's also pissed off their mutual friends, so it seems unlikely he'll ever be a normal person about Joe

R115 agreed about the pic. A refresher for everyone

From reddit, but Tobie liked an OF Nick post. He really doesn't give a fuck

R116 I get that impression as well. I’m sure he was great and full on loving at the beginning but I wonder if he got more cunty as Joe became more successful. Not the wide eyed Manx boy he could show new experiences anymore.

Yeah, Kit’s still easily my favorite Joe photographer. He centers Joe as the sole subject and provides variety, you get everything from angelic to sassy from him.

R118 yes Tobie. Think Nick is kind of a dick but love this from Tobie.

Also, Reddit is so ahead of us at the moment. I’m not on the regular checking old Nick posts but now I really feel I should be going over everything daily

Respectfully, none of us give a fuck enough about the guys once they're out of the picture to look at likes from old posts. Hell, we were discussing unfollowing Lego just recently. Which reminds me, Joe skipped liking the selfie, it's super over.

R122 has OF Nick always been verified, I mean since we knew about him?

R123 over over. Still following and I swear, in line with the pizza consumption, the hair product use has amped up in a way I didn’t think possible. Fascinating way to spiral

R124 he wasn’t verified when Joe started following him.

R121 I don't really like the guy, though did find Tobie liking an OF Nick post funny considering Bash's apparently beef with Tobie. I'm sure Bash spent many a night whining about Joe and OF Nick and how Joe betrayed him. Putting Tobie on the list of people Bash will unfollow within a year.

OF Nick back on the roaster? Is the like recent?

R128 can’t see how the roster could stretch that far geographically. Maybe he’s gonna meet them when they’re in NYC. I’m onboard with the person who theorised that Joe’s travel buddy might be Tobie at the end of the year. Or, in Tobie fashion, maybe he noticed Nick followed him and gave him a quick thirst like back

There's not many hot guys on IG Tobie hasn't liked a post of. I wouldn't take it too seriously.

Honestly what I would love though I’m not a huge OF Nick fan is Joe doesn’t give a Fuck, said “oh that’s funny he followed you, you should hook up”, and is now gonna wingman for Tobie and Nick

R127 true. It is hilarious that bash is furious at the cast for staying close to Joe who they were already friends with, while Joe doesn’t care if his closest friends thirst like his old hookups posts. Joe is truly an unbothered king

R119 agreed. Also think it’s not a coincidence that aside from his creepy family, the people who seem to hold the biggest grudge against joe are his “actor” (being generous) friends. the few total normies bash introduced joe to all still follow him. IIRC his cousins still liked joes posts after the breakup. It’s Disney channel Isabella, peaked at 16 Amybeth, replacement myrcella Nell, and most forgotten in HOTD Emily who seemed all too glad of an excuse to turn on him. Probably fun to have bash’s wide eyed boyfriend think they were all so cool, less fun to see him overtake them in a matter of months with no experience, expensive lessons, or material advantage because talent outs.

Side note but the extent of their bitching is still so funny. For instance the fact that Jedward seems to have an issue with joe, and that one extra unfollowed joe and tobie. The jokes write themselves. Joe got Olivia and Kit, bash got Jedward and an extra named Phoenix.

Does anyone know what actually happened between Joe Locke and Sebastian Croft?

R134 they broke up, bash spiraled into bitterness and total irrelevance over losing joes magic pussy, joe is hotter and more fun than ever

R134 No, but pretty sure Bash got dumped and considering Joe's low standards and general low self esteem and the fact that Kit mentioned if Joe cares about someone he really cares about them weeks after the breakup, I'm assuming Bash fucked up completely for Joe to actually pull the trigger on the relationship. Or Bash did the dumping and is just a complete psychopath, which is possible at this point

Though nobody really talks about the breakup, but more Bash's behavior after it.

R134 No. Depending on which part of the internet you search, you’ll see “evidence” of both of them being evil monsters. What probably happened is an unfortunate break up between two young boys. They were together for 2 years.

R134 pretty much everyone except bash’s 5 deluded Stans and one person with a particular bias on this thread think bash was clearly the huge asshole in the aftermath. There’s one “they both are young” person who ignores only one of those young people has been a malicious dick after the breakup.

R138 Believe it or not but we don’t know anything that actually went down. I know, shocking!

R138 Tobie agrees

R139 believe it or not, hit dogs holler and your bias is pretty clear! Enjoy being in the company of the intellectual powerhouses aka bash stans

The way I can see a comment that’s hysterically overprotective of kit and Nick Nelson (fake comic character) or needlessly negative towards Joe and it’s always the same person is so fucking funny in a way

Is the person who hates Joe and is allergic to not fighting every thread the same one who said Joe dumped Bash to fuck daddies. That was a good time.

R141 Enjoy being personally victimized by this breakup for the rest of time. Seems like fun

Bash’s friends and family have all unfollowed Joe after a hang out with Bash. Because we follow them closely (particularly on a fucking gossip site - if we are still allowed to be that) we know that Bash’s behaviour afterwards has clearly been cunty. I can’t understand denying that. I realise there is someone here more fond of Bash than Joe and maybe that’s the person saying we don’t know, but that person has also been posting here for at least six months. They’ve seen all the shit go down - why act like it’s been two sided?

R143 they are not. That person is an actual troll

Well, I saw some photos where they looked adorable together. It always warms my heart to see young, proud gay men in love. A shame it didn't work out. They are young. They'll find their way.

R142 Please refrain from taking cheap shots at Nick.

R147 you’re right I do need to trigger warning that for them, they can take cheap shots at joe but if I insult nick it is functionally a hate crime

R144 enjoy feeling victimized on this thread for the rest of time. Seems like fun. You seem real busy at the job you allegedly have

R143 no, I miss the “Joe interrupted bashs extremely important play” person though. They were hilarious. This idiot is just annoying

R148 I don’t but you clearly do sweetheart if the mention of Bash makes you this upset

I just know some people are ugly and friendless in real life. At least they have mean girls to console them.

Anyway, need them back at an event together

R146 Yeah, this thread doesn’t have much compassion for Bash (Croft). He acted really petty after the break up but you’d think he murdered Joe’s entire family reading here

Lmao they can deny the anti joe thing all they want but come on now. Poor bash, Meanwhile crunchy Frau is basically the devil for saying Kit has dirty shoes.

R152 it is a fucking gossip site. As someone who, at least pretends, to understand the rest of DL (sorry others but ‘Sure Jan’ is extremely normal for this site) you know that this is about as fucking tame as it gets. We fucking gossip about what a shithead Bash has been - take a breath

That idiot is boring so here’s the navy guy who was shooting his shot with Joe on the float

R152 Thanks! I thought there was some cheating involved. Or a sex scandal. Maybe I'm too old to understand the GENZ drama.

R156 you’ve asked basically the same question about bash several times so at this point I don’t know whether you aren’t content with the answer or just want to talk about how bash seems lovely and innocent

R157 You literally have beef with everyone here lmao maybe elderly gay doesn’t think Bash is satan. deal!

Does that one person think solely one user hates them? It’s like 30 people

R158 nah I just think you’re a waste of oxygen, don’t have beef with others. If they don’t hate bash fine but the same question 3 times expecting a different answer is stupid

R156 There didn't seem to be. Just sounds like Joe grew up and might have wanted different things after being on his own for half a year where his boyfriend didn't visit him, like living alone and not having Bash's mother follow them on dates. Idk. It was drama free for about a week. Seems Bash didn't like Joe rebounding even if he got into a relationship with a new guy who had been leaving comments on his IG for months within weeks of the relationship ending too. Anyway, nobody likes bash, not even his costars. But his family loves him!

R153 Babe, there is 10 of us here

R162 again, stop WWing yourself within seconds

R159 Oh no, 30 random gays online hate me. Let me go cry about it.

R164 please do! Anything other than lurking for comments about joe you can jump in on to say he’s not treated worse than Kit, wanting more for him is a grave insult to nick Nelson, that he wasn’t innocent in the bash breakup, that he’s a weirdo for not being as petty as bash’s mates, et cetera.

R165 Joe won’t suck your dick. You can breathe and not feel victimized every time someone is not wishing harm on Bash. It’s been 6 months. Move on for the love of-

R166 and you can drop dead but sadly we don’t always get what we want :/ all the best babe

She should just say she wants to ride kit and resents Joe, it’s a pretty common Twitter affliction

R166 The fact that you get so upset about this while also throwing a complete fit about a one bad IG comment about Kit or the thread saying Nick's uni story is shit s seriously unhinged. Seek help.

R167 See how triggered you get lmao it’s like Bash broke up with you! Joe isn’t even that bothered. You’ll get through it. I believe in you.

She fixates on Bash as though it’s not clear she has many other ways of shitting on Joe in the least subtle way possible. Shading Joe won’t make kit fuck her. I know she resists it nonstop and insists they’ll never fuck, but sadly for her kit fucking Joe is far more likely

R169 But it’s not unhinged to cry about Charlie not having the spotlight in S3 every 2 business days when Vol.4 is all about him? At least make sense.

We can’t gossip about Bash, can’t post about follows (potential casting or potential fucking), can’t shit on the fans (unless specified), can’t bitch about the Charlie character getting shafted (so to speak). What is the fucking point of this thread

An underposted video. Trying to drown up out the ugly low IQ moron. They should date bash, birds of a feather and all

R172 S3 is very clearly Vol4 and 5

R173 you also may not post about tal or Charlie or about negative things said about joe. You may however fume over a singular instagram comment you hunted down that was rude to Kit, or say he has dainty feet. That’s the riveting stuff that keeps these threads going

I didn’t see the dainty feet thing but that is the weirdest flex

R176 Yes because keeping tabs on Joe’s exs to an obsessive amount is totally normal. R175 They are mostly about Charlie’s recovery. Alice said S3 will be mainly Vol.4 which id about Charlie.

R178 that is very clearly not what is being filmed rn. It’s from Vol.5. Alice is full of shit

R177 I don’t mind people being into kits feet. We all have our weird things, I like joes bellybutton. But to try to gatekeep a thread when that’s the contribution you’re making is hilarious

R178 scrolling through kits IG comments until you find a single negative one you can sob about on here is freakish

R179 All of this could be 10 minutes at the end of episode 8. Although agree that Alice is full of shit.

R180 fair. I also have developed a weird bellybutton thing because of Joe (Kit also has a hot one imo). I personally like big feet on a slim twink (specific) so you do you, other guy. I don’t want to yuck anybody’s yum

R182 well I’ll still shame her for being annoying enough to insist her fixation on denying joe faces some shit is not weird as fuck and trying to say with a straight face that her contributions are much more valuable than laughing at tal and bash

R183 Whatever, girl

R178 We don't care what Alice says. We have eyes and can see the end of vol 5 being filmed.

Their height difference for the friendship is cute as hell and Alice doesn’t play it up enough

Sucks coming back to 60 comments and realizing that nothing's happened. Anyway, here's a very comforting tweet from Heartstopper Comfort.

Shortlists for the TV Choice Awards are out, the show did better this year than last year. They only made it into Best New Drama last year. This year they're in Best Drama (other nominees are All Creatures Great And Small, Happy Valley, Vera), Best Actor (nominees are Kit, Martin Clunes, James Norton, David Tennant), and Best Actress (nominees are Yaz, Jenny Agutter, Brenda Blethyn, and Sarah Lancashire).

Another joe snub. Always a delight.

Yaz getting a nom but not Joe is fucking offensive

R190 it’ll happen again s3. Main character nick Nelson, supporting character Charlie spring.

R190 This is going to sound bitchy, but she benefits from always being the sole female actress on these longlists. Almost everyone that votes for Joe and Kit throws a vote her way and she's never vote-splitting with anyone else.

R192 if Alice slashed imogen and spent that time developing Tara, cori could make some of these lists but alas

Alice can’t even be bothered to give Joe a storyline and he’s the lead, poor Corinna is getting fuck all

Very happy for Kit, very tired of joes equally strong performance getting overlooked

soz for the info account, but talking about underposted videos, here’s Noah Centineo hired by Bash

R196 Homophobia.

To be clear I think monthaversaries are stupid and embarrassing after secondary school, during which they’re cute solely because teenagers muddling through romance is pretty funny. But it does make me laugh that they project this onto nick when literally the plot of DL’s fav scene, the horny chocolate scene, is that Charlie gets him something as they’ve been dating for a month and nick totally forgets. They really want him to be the perfect romantic boyfriend and Charlie to be god knows what, a fill in the blank love interest?

R198 As far as I can tell they both seem like canonically they’d get so annoyed with the month thing after a year. Maybe Nick would say it randomly when he’s Googled how many months 10 years is and says it but tell me you don’t know the character lol

Oh… Oh… Charlie is a Twink not a child.

As much as the art is weird it made me laugh because I think this is what half the fandom thinks we’re imagining when we say that they should be having a perfectly healthy sex life together especially with how horny the actors make them appear.

Is this HS?

R201 Yeah, but I’m pretty sure it’s from the last scene from S2.

R202 oh, thanks, I thought it was related to the 4 am thing

This TikTok made me laugh. I'm glad that the fandom is finally pushing back against the weird, puritanical atmosphere they've created around the guys. Seeing all of these people that are close to Joe and Kit's ages lecture each other on finding them hot has been so fucking weird.

R204 Damn, sometimes I forget that Kit is only 19

If the strike ends soon, do we think they'll have them do some belated S2 promo during the remainder of S3 filming? Could also tie it to the Volume 5 release in December.

HS insta posted about the TV Choice Awards.

R206 Doesn’t look like it’ll end any time soon. And I‘m not sure about belated promo because S2 has already been out 90 days at this point.

R206 I don't think they'd have the cast do conventional promo at this point. Best bet would be if Netflix decides to trot Joe and Kit out for awards campaigning again, which is how we got the Gold Derby and Film Independent interviews last year.

R208 honestly given how seesaw and Netflix act wouldn’t be surprised if they just trotted out Kit and Yaz instead

R208 I’m praying that we get at least one of those, I want them to talk about shooting that last scene at length.

R209 Highly unlikely, even when Yaz was winning awards last season the main push was Joe and Kit. Yaz was part of a panel at one of the live events Netflix hosted for the guilds IIRC, but it was local to the UK versus the American push Joe and Kit got.

R211 I mean I was more being snide about how Netflix and HS treat joe like a second class citizen.

Oh I didn’t realize the TV Choice awards shortlist/winner was fan voted. Absolutely unsurprised joe didn’t make it, the fandom could not give less of a fuck about him and of course were only going to support Kit. Well, voted for Kit on the shortlist, hope he wins

Speaking of the 90 day window, I’m surprised that we haven’t gotten any completion data yet.

R204 It IS extremely weird that fans the same age as them are weird about saying they’re hot which they are. I am too old for them but even me saying Kit and Joe are attractive doesn’t mean I’d groom them or whatever the weirdo fandom would say.

R215 I agree although there are weirdos that would gladly go beyond just saying “oh, I would.” But the fandom takes it way too far. Serious issues like grooming are just brushed over by people on the internet throwing the accusations around.

They act like calling them hot is a war crime. I’ve called women hot before, doesn’t mean I’m going to fuck them. It means I have eyes.

Heading on a flight soon so I’m “manifesting” that Kit drops a photo dump or something by the time I land. I have wifi on the second flight so I would know then

Has there been literally any Kit hate? Or is this one of those people who thinks “the way Joe is treated by the fandom as an afterthought” is vicious and targeted hate speech to Kit?

R219 I mean the usual snide comments are all over twitter

R219 I mean, there are some comments I cringed at, kinda shady towards Kit and saying Joe should be nominated instead, stuff like that. Mostly just people saying Joe should also be nominated as well though, which we know is enough to trigger some Kit stans, and they think demanding equal treatment of the co-leads equals Kit hate.

R219 The typical bitchy comments, but it'd be more effective if people addressed them directly instead of making some vague post about it.

Gotcha. I mean I’m just a little sick of the fact that people will seek out a few shitty comments about Kit that I agree shouldn’t be made and use them as a shield to shut down the pretty necessary discussion of the homophobia underlying the disparity in the way Kit and joe are treated by fans and rewarded for equally strong performances, so

Only in HS world would joe being snubbed for an award turn into “poor Kit deserves the world”. Their determination to make everything about weirdly babying him which I think he has no desire for is bizarre. Promise he’d be fine with people saying joe deserved a nom too

R224 Well, the comments are shady. They’re not talking about homophobia or anything important. And they are not talking about the fact that Will was also snubbed and this is due to racism. A miracle these boys don’t hate each other with the fandom they have.

R225 stupid fucking comparison because will is not a lead. The disparity in followers between Will and joe is less than the disparity in followers between joe and Kit.p, when will is a side character and joe is a lead. I am sick to fucking death of the fact that there can never be an in good faith discussion of hey! Isn’t it fucked the gay lead loses every single popularity contest! Because people will literally hunt for some shitty comments — that I agree shouldn’t be made — about Kit. I promise no one is hunting down shady comments about joe on posts to call the, out, only Kit, and only so they can obfuscate a pretty necessary discussion or acknowledgment of the difference in the way they are treated.

Literally never defeating the allegations that she thinks joe deserves less than Kit. Please explain why you think the disparity is justified.

R225 Guess who‘s trying to start a fight again.

Really wouldn’t waste my breath replying to them. It’s preaching to the choir and fuelling that one person’s fetish for starting fights on here.

R225 genuinely, why would Kit hate joe? Like, Kit is more popular, gets more critical acclaim, gets way better treated by the fandom, and still has joe rooting for him the whole time. I’m definitely not discounting the lexxies and queerbaiting people but I feel like there’s this weird “oh Kit and joe are in the same boat” thing and they’re not. I don’t think comparing hate is helpful because it’s unacceptable regardless, but I think comparing popularity and good treatment is, and Kit undeniably has a lot more than joe of that

R229 fair. Just sick of having to on a gay forum explain why it’s annoying that the gay lead is treated terribly and the response by the fandom is “poor Kit” somehow

I mean not a hill I'm going to die on, but we all have to recognize the absurdity of a tweet that leads with "Kit connor deserves the world" over an award he was nominated and joe was snubbed for by fans. Like a bit funny to claim fans are treating kit terribly when joe is the one snubbed for the fan nominated award. but whatever, unbelievably, I think marvel may indeed treat joe better. That's how fucked the HS fandom is

R226 Will, just like Joe, was nominated to be short listed but he didn’t get enough votes. Maybe know what you’re talking about before opening your dumb mouth.

R233 I do, stupid. A supporting character getting overlooked for a main actor award isn’t as fucked as a co lead is, brainless.

Again, explain why you’re okay with the Kit and joe disparity, please.

R234 Exactly. The fans who are complaining should be talking about that too, hence the point that went over your stupid head. And who said I was okay? How are shady and snide comments helping?

R235 my god, you’re thick. The comparison between joe and Will makes no sense as Will is literally a supporting character. If say, bash or tobie got noms over will, or rhea over Yaz or cori, those are valid comparisons. Will against Kit or joe is not. He has less than half their screentime. Again, you like to twist things in circles to condone any and all poor treatment of joe so whatever

Crunchy and some of the other deluded fraus make me laugh. Kit is lovely but he is not only the eternal victim but also a saint in their eyes. Not only is he receiving INTENSE HATE for the nom apparently, though i haven't seen it I suspect from that biphobic cunt, but he also wishes joe won every award kit himself got nominated for! Wish to God they'd have some common sense. I'm sure Kit is not praying joe gets nominations and awards over him and vice versa, they are great guys but not martyrs. And the fact that joe not getting nominated has turned into this pity party for his costar should not surprise me as much as it does

R236 No idea why I’m conversing with an idiot but again how are shady, snarky and bitchy comments about Kit helping? That was the initial topic of the conversation. And yes, talking about Will is relevant if you want to talk about who gets recognition the least.

Seriously i sympathize with the other person who thinks joe deserves more but you are conversing with the lowest IQ moron on this site. If you can't explain how charlie is a bigger role than Tao to them, the determination to be a Joe anti is clear

The fact that they can't say "It honestly is really unfair joe wasn't nominated as well" speaks volumes

R237 lexxie hasn’t even tweeted anything so unless there is another kit hatter on. rn posting negative about his nomination, idk who they are referring too. all ive seen are people being disappointed but nothing that suggests that Kit shouldn’t be nominated

R241 oh ok, so once more the HS fandom just purposefully twisting in circles to avoid the elephant in the room that joe is treated like dogshit, got it

R240 The fact that you can’t congratulate Kit without talking about Joe for one comment. Or condoning the snide comments. Tells me everything I need to know. Imbecile.

Prefacing this by saying that Joe should've been nominated and I acknowledge the disparity, but it sucks for both of them that all of the top comments on the nominations posts are about Joe. Hopefully they don't read them, Joe doesn't need the reminder of the disparity and Kit doesn't need to be made to feel badly about his nomination.

All of this drama and they’re both going to lose to the Happy Valley actors anyway.

did nobody notice or are we choosing not to notice that Bash changed his ig bio completely ?

R246 I didn’t notice because I don’t look at his stuff unless it’s mentioned here, what the fuck does that new bio even mean?

thought at the beginning it was a shot at Joe

I‘m surprised Bash didn’t take the opportunity to be petty and like the Joe snub post. Choosing to believe Kit posted Joe’s ass on finsta and is back on the blacklist.

R244 I get you but I think what’s frustrating is everything has to be both sides, “it sucks for both of them”. Like… it sucks a lot less for the one who gets all the media attention, all the fans, and all the nominations. Come on now.

r243 please quote my comment where i condoned negative kit comments. I literally asked where they were. I said I was sure lexxie had posted them and that sucked. Someone then said lexxie posted nothing and they had seen no negative comments towards kit. I have seriously seen 30 protect kit at all costs, who cares about joe tweets, and you up and down this thread comparing will to joe for no reason.

I am going to ask you: do you think it is unfair kit won this popularity contest and joe got snubbed? direct answer, please.

R244 That’s unfortunately what’s going to happen to them until the show is over. That’s why I don’t care if S3 is the last. I would rather they move on to better projects where they can both shine and they can remain good friends.

i do not even think this contest is that big of a deal tbh but yeah Joe definitely on the downside of this debate for sure

R251 I think Kit deserves to be nominated. Of course Joe should be too. The automatic response is always poor Joe which is fair but it clouds Kit’s nomination. They are both queer men who deserve the success they have. I don’t think this situation will ever be fair. I think Joe has the better post Hs job and I was really happy for him. If someone came here and expressed disappointment that Kit didn’t get the same opportunity, they would get shut down, as they should. It’s not a competition.

r254 k cool so i asked do you think joe was snubbed and your answer was an analysis of how kit was wronged so never mind, you really can't engage in good faith. and literally everyone including me talks nonstop about how they hope kit is wiccan, so that last part is a damn lie

Not a singular person on this thread said Kit shouldn’t have gotten nominated. That one persons ability to twist herself into circles over the simple proposal that joe should be too is MIND blowing

[quote]kit is wiccan

Sorry, I know it was an honest mistake, but I laughed.

r257 role reversal! i meant hulkling but imagine.

R255 K and my answer was well articulated. If you don’t comprehend that some people see this situation (disparity) as more than just Joe doesn’t get enough, it’s not my problem. Dumbass, stop wasting my time.

R259 you do realize a role Kit was never up for is distinct from an award both were shortlisted for and is a popularity contest, right? The better comparison to Joe getting Marvel would be if people complained about Kit's A24 casting and said it should have been Joe, which no one did. The reason people are bringing up Joe getting snubbed is they are both leads of the show, both longlisted for the award, and based on fan voting, the same one with 1.5 times the followers of the other, who happens to be a less passing gay man, got the nomination. Seriously, engage in good faith. You do yourself no favors by picking every battle and not just admitting sometimes things are really unfair and shitty for Joe. and it is literally only on here, a forum of mostly gay men, that people really get into how unfair it is for Joe. On twitter, all i've seen are complaints of how unfair it is for kit that people want the same for Joe.

an assortment of insanely hot pictures

[quote] Dumbass, stop wasting my time.

says the dumbass who literally comes on here with the sole purpose of wasting everybody‘s time by starting pointless fights. But congratulations on getting the attention you crave so much.

R260 You realize that most of these awards are meaningless? I think Joe is overlooked in the fandom, sincerely. But it’s shitty to flood the comments section of his and Yazs nomination with “Joe should have been nominated instead”. It just is. And I’m glad Joe has Wiccan and I hope Kit will not be Hulking even though they have amazing chemistry because I desperately want them to move away from each other, professionally. This constant comparison is tiresome.

R263 I actually am going to try to be fair and calm with you. Sure, most of these awards are meaningless. you're not wrong. I don't think the entire comment section should be Joe should be nominated instead. Kit has an Emmy and an RTS, I doubt this award is a huge deal to him. But I think you can try to have some empathy for the fact that on a thread of queer guys, it is going to be a sore spot that the gay actor who doesn't pass as well to the teen fangirl fanbase loses every popularity contest including this, has 2/3 the followers, is jumped on literally for donating to Gaza because it wasn't posted on his story while Kit is praised for his prudence in keeping quiet, and overall is just treated worse. The fact is, as I have said, I do not think the "Joe deserved it INSTEAD" comments are okay. But those are a minority and I honestly don't see an issue with the majority being Joe deserves it as WELL. I think Joe does deserve it as well, and deserves to know that a lot of fans have noticed the difference in treatment and do think it's unfair.

Again, I think you need to pick your battles. Coming onto basically the one internet space dominated by queer men to try to devil's advocate about how it's not really a snub for joe unless it's a snub for will too and actually there are some rude IG comments for Kit so that's the real issue is unneeded. Let gay guys be happy for kit, which everyone on here is, and really pissed for Joe.

just going to leave this here hoping for a change of topic. let’s all focus our negative energy somewhere else

R265 apparently they also think we’re all evil for making fun of bash (list of three topics we can discuss for them: Kit being treated badly, Kit being hot, Kit being amazing) so idk if it’ll serve to unite us. But appreciate the effort. I’ll keep it nice and say I’m sure his five stans will be happy to see that

R265 Gross. Also, makes me laugh that he removed all traces of Heartstopper from his bio but all of the pictures of Joe are still up. Freak.

R256 Is my one, lonely, contrarian opinion worth all of this though? If I was saying “Fuck Joe and Kit deserves more than him”, I would get it but I’m not. Everyone is mainly a Joe stan here, and there is no problem with that. If people care about both of them like they say they do, why is it such a big deal that someone here sees things differently? They are both out, queer men. They both went through a lot.

Carnie Wilson has weighed in.

R268 what is frustrating is that you are making it a contrarian opinion when it didn't have to be one. Zero people on here think kit shouldn't have been nominated. Zero people on here are okay with comments being shady to kit. the only thing people have said is that (1) joe deserves it just as much and (2) it is frustrating that HStwt ignores all the shit joe gets to frame kit as an eternal victim. You are choosing to be a contrarian. Of course people will find you annoying for insisting that Kit is the wronged party for winning a popularity contest award over Joe.

NGL the thought of this is like the plot of a horror movie to me but I guess it makes her happy

R270 I find it annoying that as soon as the nominations came out, the first comment was about Joe. No one would act like that if Joe was nominated. If this was about the Emmys or some prestigious awards I would get it. But this stupid popularity contest is meaningless.

R269 Peacekeeping queen, let me give this song a stream.

R272 mate seriously stop with the fast upvotes. This is again the ONE internet forum where people acknowledge joe faces homophobia. You'd have a great time on twitter, where there's no love for joe at all

R272 I mean "no one would do this if it happened to joe" is a fascinating hypothetical because joe wins nothing and gets nothing over kit. "People are upset Kit is treated better nonstop", what a prospect. And ftr, the one time joe won a random online award that literally no one had ever heard of last year, no joke all of the QRT are "he and kit BOTH should have won". Again, if people wanting joe and kit to get equal treatment is an issue for you, examine your claims that you don't have an issue with joe.

r274 even the high followers twt accounts of Joe get violently suppressed whenever they try to support or defend him

Weird that the one person is both making it a human rights issue that people are upset for joe and also reducing the award to just a popularity contest. Which is it, a meaningless award we shouldn’t gaf about or something that’ll deeply traumatize Kit when he reads the comment section and sees most people sayin “wish they both got it”? Also didn’t Kit and joe literally film a video for winning best new drama last year thanking voters? And the HS page posted it. Clearly not that irrelevant.

Anyway, I looked and have seen At least 5 comments on the IG post saying Kit is the better actor and deserves it more. Are you gonna call those out?

R274 Hop off my dick. I don’t have time to WW comments like you. And get over it.

The way a queer male internet forum now has to be a safe space for twitter fraus who want to justify the disparity in treatment. Good lord.

r278 mate you're on hre 24/7. you have nothing but time. and again 2 WW within a minute is pretty blatant. nice try though.

R280 Whatever you need to believe

This, plus Simona posted about getting up at 4am as well and tagged Benedict Spence. Entirely possible it’s for Menorca content. Might also be why the filming week ended yesterday already.

Great time for Ami to drop a campaign starring Noah Schnapp.

r283 chose the wrong netflix twink. Joe is hotter too. But I don't really love Ami, so

R282 another Nick centric storyline? I am SHOCKED

R282 That Benedict guy specifically posted that he's working on a different job than Simona and the week didn't really end early. They worked 5 days, Sunday through Thursday.

R285 Okay, didn’t notice those brackets.

Is Joe in New York?

Referring to this, by the way.

R287 im pretty sure that the nyc subway, maybe he went to see audreys play

R288 "Ladies room" those lyrics are certainly something.

Looks like he went on his own? Judging by the part of the lyrics he used and the reflection.

He’s there on his own judging by the reflection.. I’m guessing it’s work related

Well alice has given him fuck all to do so could honest to god be a fucking holiday at this point. But more seriously this makes me think all the more his next move is a play with Eric, especially if he pops up at Aubrey's play as Eric is also producing that

im pretty sure he is on the r train

R285 Simona still had her alarm set to 4am and related the story to working in film.. since they ended the week yesterday, could still see it being about catching a flight for filming. would also leave Joe with more time to spend in NY if Kit‘s filming in Menorca next week.

I remember people speculating that Kit might have filmed Menorca scenes during the week before Lyme Regis filming, but I don't remember if there was any evidence.

Just because Joe wasn't seen and Kit was, not really based on much.

Also they are doing more uni filming next week so Joe might have a lot of free time.

Seriously is Charlie gonna have any scenes this season or will he be sad for 2 episodes, away for 2 episodes, and come back magically healed

Sucks for Kit, pretty sure the CDFA Awards are on Monday in New York, would have been cool if he could've gone since Jonathan's getting Designer of the Year.

R299 im pretty sure one he is fully his muse he will at one point. im pretty sure Taylor Russel is going to be the one presenting him the award

Definitely didn't expect having to monitor Nick's social media this weekend

R299 well he’s busy being the main character since joe doesn’t get a storyline. On the real though it is a bummer. I think the good thing is his relationship with Jonathan is so strong that next time he gets a big award, to vary it up, chances are high Kit is not only in attendance but presenting it

R300 Yeah, I'm fully expecting it to be Taylor or Greta Lee. If anything, at least Kit can show up to support at the Fashion Awards in London in December, Jonathan's nominated there.

R2098 Ep. 1 Nick asks about his eating disorder. Ep. 2 Nick goes on vacation 3. nick figures out how to tell Charlie's parents. Charlie leaves. Ep. 4 Nick's POV about what went on. ep. 5 Charlie's POV, therapy, relapse with a split screen of Nick. Ep. 6 Charlie is now down to fuck. Back to everyday school life. Charlie fights with his mom Ep. 7 Uni trip Ep. 8 charlie playing at the fete/group date with everyone cheering Imogen/some kind of intimate scene with Nick and Charlie

Is about what I figure. Only half joking about the split screen.

R282 if Olivia is free this weekend, it could be why Kit is filming and Joe is not. They usually have the work around her schedule.

R301 after OF Nick followed twink Charlie, I wrote him off. Joe can find hotter guys to eat him out and fuck him

Did Joe delete a Story or are these Twitter twats being dumb again?

R305 Makes sense. She’s usually only available for 2-3 days max.

R307 who knows. If he did delete a previous one my guess is it was similar and just showed the restaurant name or something

What's Joe doing in NY?

Could be work related, could just have time off since Kit is pretty obviously going to have a lot of solo scenes. He might want to see Aubrey's play too. Assuming he'll be back early next week anyway

R311 the amount of downtime joe has had comparatively is comical when you remember people insist it’s ok season 2 was the nick show since s3 will definitely be Charlie’s season!!

They've definitely been frontloading exterior scenes for the past month to beat the cold weather, and a bulk of the Charlie-centric ones will likely be indoors. I wonder if they've filmed New Year's Eve yet, or will actually save it for colder weather in November or December. Nick and Charlie have that outdoor Happy New Year kiss during fireworks.

Another possibility for Joe's NYC visit is the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony tonight. Olivia and Elton are performing.

R313 Yeah, I'm kind of expecting Kit to have more time off towards the end of filming while Joe shoots stuff like the sessions with Geoff.

R303 those nominations were shit, at least if ja wins, he deserves it unlike daniel lee

As always gorgeous

Twitter is saying that Joe is at a place called Jacks Wife Freda in NY

Sorry if someone posted this info already

the fan that met Kit in La also met Joe today in nyc, some people are just lucky

R318 This girl has met the cast 500 times I swear. She met Kit twice.

R316 Erick Kuhn in the background.

R318 If Joe was still at that place R317 it’s probably not a coincidence she met him.

R320 Oh I like it. And no, I don't think it's anything but professional since Eric is not a creep!

R320 Yeah, it's either professional or friendly. Could be work or they could be getting together before heading to see Aubrey in the play later.

imagine looking this good after an overseas flight.. always fascinating how fast his hair grows

R323 they’ve seen one another way too much for it without posting one another to be just friendly I think. Guessing professional. Thrilled for him.

Simona on a plane?

R325 to clarify my own comment — Eric basically posts all the people he sees plays with on his stories, and is pretty consistent about posting his friend meetups too. But the 5? Confirmed times we know he’s been with joe (three shows, this, and I think one other time, plus more we don’t know), he’s never posted him. And vice versa though joe is generally very generous with his praise for everyone involved in theatre, he’s never shouted out Eric for a show he’s produced. So guessing professional connection they’re keeping low key before it’s announced, and hoping Jeremy O Harris may be somehow involved

What an awkward thing to say, if clearly very well intentioned

R327 Yeah, something is up. Eric was in the UK for quite awhile last month so I'm sure they met up too. The Eric and Joe went to brunch truther might have also been right since considering how things turned down I really don't think he went with Lego

Anyway, the quality of Joe's friends (outside HS cast) have improved from 6 months ago.

R328 Yeah, good intention but how about just saying he‘s the best Charlie without also reminding him that people are shit.

R330 reminds me that someone once said to him when they met him (paraphrasing because I can’t find the exact tweet) that they hoped he knew the whole fandom thought he was beautiful and he should ignore all the people calling him ugly. Like thanks, I’m sure he was thrilled to hear you’ve seen numerous hit tweets shitting on his looks

R328 I would not be surprised if he gets a lot of weird comments like that. A lot of fans are socially awkward.

Do people even say he's not the best Charlie Spring? I mean a fridge group of three people who think Charlie isn't white maybe but I don't think it's something he's probably that aware of. A weird thing to tell him.

R333 lots of comments about how the relationship isn’t believable because Nick is way hotter than Charlie, and that Charlie is cute in the comics but joe is too ugly.

R333 People do it all the time. Going as far as saying Bash should have been Charlie, and lately dropping Besso‘s name in there as well.

Olivia spent the night at Louis’s house via Deuxmoi

Someone saw Kit on the tube a couple hours ago, then deleted the pic. I guess because they took a creeper pic but whatever

R336 I'm kinda glad Joe and Kit aren't famous enough to have their business out there.

R337 If he’s on the tube, safe to say he’s not filming with Olivia and it’s just a free filming weekend.

R338 true, unless some of the crew flew out in advance..

When I see Joe in fan photos I often assume he’s been filming because it looks like he’s wearing make-up, but that’s just his skin. Fucking beautiful man. Agree with all that say Joe and Eric must have a professional connection. Eric, in particular, would have posted Joe at some point if they were just professionally friendly. He posts just about every time he see someone

R339 this would make sense tbh. If they’re filming for a few days then one without Kit first would make sense. That being said could they be giving them all a longish break because they’ve been working weekends and they have the time

His go to hand over heart move

I hope to god if alice listens to any fans, it's joe fans pushing her to give joe a storyline, not this shit

Looks like they all got new icons, confirmation of Darcy’s new hair.

Joes and Coris are great

I love Sahar's! I hope her band storyline with Charlie gets some nice expansion, especially if they keep her moving to Truham for sixth form. Leila and Joe seem to have an adorable friendship.

Isaac’s.

R346 I’m torn between hoping Alice doesn’t develop every side character ever and knowing that she absolutely will and thinking Leila and sahar are far less annoying than imogen and hoping she builds her out instead.

R343 Nope, Imogen is clearly taking Charlie’s place next season.

R349 can you give it a rest? We get it, you hate the idea of joe having a storyline

R350 Actually, Nick renounces his bisexuality, gets with Imogen and they adopt a new puppy. Nick then becomes bffs with Tao and Elle, becomes head boy and fucks Ben behind Imogen’s back. The show is renamed Heartstopper: The Nick Nelson’s diaries.

God that person is truly unfunny in addition to being annoying and stupid. Nothing good about her

R351 didn’t you literally throw a tantrum about how people should shit on Imogens storyline and not precious nick yesterday? Now I shit on imogen and you throw another tantrum

R437 Wonder how much Kit, Joe and Tobie roast Isaac when Alice isn't around. Even his pfp is annoying

R353 Anything is a tantrum these days. And only way to get through the thread is to join in the ridiculousness

Crying about cheap shots at Nick is giving tantrum. You won't catch me defending Alice's storytelling in any way, but you do you if it makes you happy

Why don’t we get a list of approved topics to discuss? On a thread I made by the way, but your opinion really matters!. Kits dainty toes, the hate kit receives, how mean crunchy is to kit, how Joe isn’t snubbed for joe, how Joe having less followers doesn’t matter, how joe is a freak for not being as immature as Amybeth, how bash is overhated. NOT allowed: “cheap shots” at fictional character nick Nelson, wanting joe to be treated well by fans or critics or his boyfriend, wanting a really important anorexia, self harm, and depression storyline to be done well. Seeing a pattern?

R357 You don’t need a list, your moaning is already monopolizing the thread. You can deal with a few comments. R356 Thanks. You can keep crying about Charlie not having a storyline every time a picture of the set leaks even though the majority of Book 4 is about him.

R358 why don’t you make the world a better place and fuck off? Or at least make a thread once in a while if you’re going to monopolize them with your whining

R358 Yes, we know. What book are they currently filming though. I'll give you a minute to figure it out and you can share with the class.

R360 she’ll need to learn to read and possibly a lobotomy before she’s capable of that reasoning. She also forgets Charlie’s whole hospitalization is two letters in book 4 so not exactly the “focus”

There is a rumor about Kit and Tobie at the Maisie Peters concert, does anyone know anything?

R362 I'm not seeing much. Though apparently Kit got whacked with a bag this morning on the tube.

R362 oh thank you, what a lucky unlucky girl

does anyone know where this is?

R361 Do everyone a favor and go reread the comics. You are really fucking stupid if you think season 3 won’t be mainly about Charlie’s ed.

R366 We read them that's why we know they are filming the end of volume 5. And his eating disorder storyline will be done by episode 5 at the latest with episode 1 about the beach trip and episode 2 about Nick's vacation, episode 3 ending with Charlie telling him parents, so 2 episodes to focus on it, one from Nick's POV, and from then and the only focus will be on if he can take off his shirt since Alice can relate that to Nick. You can come back in a year to see we were right.

R365 story unavailable, what was it

R368 Dylan seeing Here We Are. She's in NY. Not sure what the person was exactly asking though.

R369 cheers, I wanted to know if she was in NY

The fact that what gets that person up in arms is literally the prospect of Joe being treated as kits equal is so wild

he went to see aubreys play

R367 They filmed the end of Vol.4 for S2 and that was only 1 scene in the show! She’s clearly not filming the comics in order. Regardless, the end of season 2 was a huge buildup for Charlie’s ed storyline. It’s impossible that they’ll skip through that unless Alice wants to be known as the worst TV writer of all time.

They’ve filmed or are filming a large part of volume 5. No fewer than three universities, maybe more. Several days of filming for the carnival, which is literally still being released in the webcomic. The defensiveness of Alice, rheA, Bash, connor, fictional character Nick Nelson, and literally everyone but Joe is insane.

R372 Figured he should. Someone mentioned Olivia Dean has a couple concerts in NY. I wonder if he'll go to that too tomorrow

R373 She does not care because people only care about Nick. As long as we get Nick's POV about Charlie's issues she can just pretend S3 is about Charlie just like she pretended S2 was about Charlie.

R372 how does he look that good the day of or after a long flight. The curls without product are gorgeous as ever. Hair grows so fast

R374 Using logic is being defensive of Alice? R375 I hope you are right and next season will be “the nick nelson show” that way we didn’t endure all that whining for nothing.

The way she’ll rub her clit raw to the scenes of Nick tenderly weeping over preferring Leeds to Kent. Riveting stuff. Alice’s finest.

Seriously does anyone on here actually believe them at this point that they absolutely don’t have an issue with Joe?

R378 Sure and you’re rubbing one whenever Bash posts on social media. I know you have your notifs on for him.

Pretty sure most people don't follow Bash anymore. Won't stop us from shitting on him though, so continue to enjoy that

She really tries for low blows but can’t deny the simple fact that she does have a huge weird complex about joe. Tragic!

Her self granted WW or two are almost hauntingly beautiful. The pillars of self delusion

I hope everyone remembers the way the Joe stans made Kit's nomination post about Joe next time they decide to have an aneurysm over a couple of people making comments about Kit on his TikToks. :-)

This, too.

"No one is hating on Kit!"

R383 Oh no, not Kit's nomination for an award that's pointless (as you said). I bet someone even left a mean comment about it on IG. I'm sure you can find one.

Your mask is slipping a bit btw.

Literally no one said those comments were ok, we just remarked that it was remarkable the fandom made Kit getting a nomination based on popularity a way he was treated worse than joe. But glad your joe anti mask is off. Are you the Josh Alex guy, or the cursed alien bitch?

R385 here dumbass, tit for tat

R385 and here

The quiet haterd for Kit Connor is kind of sending me. So quiet you can barely see it in the fandom and he's so quietly hated he's got 2 million more followers than Joe. If Kit's hate is quiet, what's Joe

R384 and while you’re busy WWing yourself, here’s a lovely joe tweet from that very account! So you dumb cunts can say it about joe, huh? Or are you going to say this is unfair too!?

Her posting full on joe anti accounts from twitter is hilarious. Really shows what she’s interacting with on there, stupid ugly bitch

R386 Not me, try again. R388 This place complains about Kit's acting receiving more praised than Joe's all the time. So what's the problem with someone pointing that out? While you're in that X thread, run those other posts through Google and let me know what they say about Kit, like they're not extremely gross about Kit and much worse than that stan's reply.

R391 Gonna say it's just facts

Pointing out that Kit receives more praise for his acting is offensive to Joe, but this is completely fine:

"Oh girl, I'm wrong for the love of God, I love Kit but he didn't have half the good performance that Joe had in this series and I'm going to continue saying that he was only nominated because he's standard, what are the foreigners going to do to hit me?"

R394 you’re a worthless piece of shit the world would be better off without but glad you’re done pretending you care about joe. If you won’t do us a favor and die, maybe fuck off to twitter where you can be besties with the joe antis

Guys come on. She’s a hideous kit fangirl who’s mad he would prefer to fuck Joe. As others have said, her mask is fully off and she’s done pretending her issue is anything other than anyone liking Joe. Saying Joe deserves it more which everyone in here said is rude anywy is a hate crime. Saying kit is a better actor is just true, according to her. Allow her to enjoy her self given WWs and her “job” — I presume the nurses at the asylum give her little tasks to do for a sense of purpose, bless.

R395 I mean, Kit stans say that all the time that Joe acts all right, but Kit carries the show. Your buddy up there said it too. And I'm sorry do you think the teenage girls love Kit for his acting skills or his nice ass. Just wondering. He has both and it's just they pay attention to one more than the other. Not sure why this is controversial.

Commenting at all about Kit on Joe's posts is a hate crime, pointing out that Joe stans made a post celebrating Kit and Yaz's nomination about Joe is too far. R398 His ass wasn't what got him that Emmy over Joe. I'm sure it pains you to admit this.

Seriously y’all it’s been fun but as wonky as it makes the threads just put her on ignore. As titillating as I’m sure her next analysis of how Joe deserves hate, or how Kit has idk a dainty mole on his wrist she wants to kiss, or how kit is superior and somehow with 2 million more followers is less popular and worse treated will be, really not worth the back and forths. Can’t fix mentally deficient

[quote]Seriously y’all it’s been fun

Has it? I end up with a headache every time I check these threads now.

R400 That award really sent her off the deep end. It's a bit funny

R399 Please tell us why Kit got the award since you are being honest now

You’re right. Schrodingers nomination (its both a meaningless popularity contest joe fans are dumb for caring about, and also so important and influential that Kit will need therapy after reading comments the majority of which say “congrats Kit and Yaz, wish joe was ALSO nominated”) is the worst thing that’s ever happened and I should be mindful of the deep trauma Kit fans faced by reading that people think joe also deserved a nom. Oh the Emmy comment coming out! Wow mask is off.

R400 you’re right, maybe it’s abuse of the mentally insane for me to be arguing with her this way

Last thing I’ll say is I’m dying for her to post a selfie because I have never seen a Joe hater who wasn’t ugly. Something about the magic pussy sends the jawless twinks and fat girls crazy with rage

R402 Take a couple of seconds to check post histories, because I'm not whoever you think I am. I've been honest the entire time. Kit has given the better performance both seasons. That's why. I'm glad the reality check came early. Start preparing those arguments about the material for when Kit keeps getting nominations and wins over Joe.

It is a bit funny to see like 3-4 WWs on posts from people who have 4 others chiming in to agree with them and then the solo person who never has anyone weigh in to agree with them magically has 5 within a minute. Seriously jobless :/ anyway goodnight it’s been real. Anyone know how to get someone blocked on DL?

R405 Cute.

[quote] Start preparing those arguments about the material for when Kit keeps getting nominations and wins over Joe.

So that's why you don't want us to complain about Charlie not getting any sort of moments or plot line of his own. Really hard to win anything when you don't get any scenes and the back of your head is more promoted than your face.

R406 Click the crossed-out silhouette next to the FF button on one of their comments.

R407 Yes! Exactly like that!

R408 oh I mean for me personally. She can keep spewing her shit, if this is what she does with her internet time at the asylum who am I to judge? I just don’t wanna engage with it anymore

Honest to god hilarious that not a single person on here has said (1) Kit didn’t deserve the nomination (2) Joe is a better actor than Kit (3) joe deserved the Emmy s1. She is seriously this heated over people thinking Kit isn’t outright superior to Kit. Unhinged

Anyway.

Anyway subject change, this remains cute. Kit is hench, joe is so tiny. They need to fuck. Maybe our pal up there can explain how Kit would also be better in bed in her fantasies

R413 The exact moment Bash looked on in jealousy and decided to force Tobie to carry him.

R414 gonna say tobie is actually a true joekit shipper and offered to carry bash to throw him off the scent and give them their moment. The reason it’s always the three of them is he’s always trying to wingman. Why not

I want joe to try to pick up Kit like that drawing, but he might be allergic to attempting

R414 Made him carry him and then unfollowed him on tiktok a year later. The nerve

R416 I really don’t know what’s not clicking for you. Princesses do not do manual labour like lifting their twunk friends. Joe is there to be carried and adored, nothing more!

R362 source?

Onto much better horny discussions, I’ve decided will is a dark horse who has specific kinks he’s into (what those kinks are is open for discussion), tobie has the highest body count, joe likes being spanked hard and them pampered in aftercare, and Kit has a size difference preference when he tops. Have also decided Kit has great endurance in bed because why not

R419 Tobie's type is something I'm so curious about. There's no way of telling based on his likes since he likes everything, and nothing is known about his past history. It's crazy.

R420 We def need more info about Tobie and his preferences . Well for all of them really.

Wish I know about the whole cast when S1 filming was filming , they were all SO open,

R392 I thought you were a pro at checking post history? You can’t even figure out it’s not me? Fucking idiot.

R407 See, this is a real troll! You dumb fuck. But you can’t see the difference because in your stupid head, everyone who doesn’t think like you must hate Joe.

R397 Laughing at you getting hard thinking you finally “caught me”. Sorry but that’s just the typical trolls we used to get that come back once in a while. Also, never beating the “I hate women” allegations.

Thanks for replying so I can block you too. Appreciate it.

R425 Thanks. Blocked you too Loser.

Is there a reason why the boys don't have singular threads? I've noticed most don't talk about the show in here. I feel as though that would fix the problems in this thread. Can someone make a Joe Locke thread and a Kit Connor thread?

R427 checking two threads and having a huge overlap (cause Joe and Kit are quite intertwined) would be annoying, but I hear you… it’s been incredibly draining lately. then again, if people would just block that one person or stop taking the bait, or if that person could just fuck off (which they won’t), the problem would be solved as well..

We're not going to split threads again because of one or two trolls when the rest of us are normal, please be serious.

R427 No.

R429 I've noticed this thread leans more on Joe Locke and it would be great to have a solo thread for him. Is there a real reason why he doesn't have one? I understand why some posters might feel frustrated when this thread is called Heartstopper but favors one actor over the other.

R431 I'm probably the most active Kit stan on here. I honestly don't mind that the thread leans more towards Joe as long as people aren't assholes about Kit. They're very close and their careers and lives are fairly intertwined. Even if we're interested in one more than the other, we're all still interested in both of them above anyone else and we all actively discuss both of them. We did split threads before. It was a pain in the ass. Neither of them have enough going on outside of Heartstopper and each other to sustain activity in individual threads. When something relevant happens it usually involves the pair of them (information on filming has been the bulk of the thread's activity recently) and information gets double-posted and two stilted conversations end up happening at the same time. Split threads do not work.

As much as the rest of DL hates the HS threads, they really hated the individual threads. And as r428 said there’s too much overlap. Trying to keep up with the multiple threads was a pain. Muriel let’s this one survive, don’t tempt fate.

R431 no need for a new thread, It would be too complicated to go from one thread to another, you just have to respect this order, worship princess Joe, love Kit, love the cast, especially Tobie (note that I said cast) and do whatever you want with the one who finally left the show

R432 I see. Perhaps when their careers are more established, then. A shame because this thread is interesting for the most part. Although there is an evident clash between fans at the moment.

R435 It's one person kicking up shit. If people stopped taking the bait, there'd be no drama. "Clash between fans" is overstating it.

It's a crime their shorts were this long but the size difference here is very hot.

R437 The size difference and the hands on the tiny waist. God.

That slow stroke down Kits arms. Shame he didn’t keep going.

Let’s be clear when there were individual threads Joe’s were swarmed by cunty gay and frau talking about how ugly he is and Kit’s were swarmed by biphobic gays, and Frau talking about how disgusting we are for wanting to fuck him (just blatant homophobia). One thread is what Muriel let us have. She knows best

I’m going to get slayed for this but, the shadow boxing on these threads is insane at the moment. The Kit guy is not nearly as big a cunt as is being made out, and I have fought with him plenty. Every even just basic comment is being called out. He likes Kit, he likes Bash, he’s ambivalent about Joe - it’s not enough to blow up the thread every time. He’s not wrong that a literal troll was on the thread and wasn’t recognised. Can we not be fucking normal - or at least funny

R440 honestly I think the best compromise is if he just stops speaking about joe altogether and then everyone else can shut up in response. I don’t mind at all that he stans Kit way more. It’s that When every time he mentions joe it’s to be shady it’s a pain in the ass. But you’re not wrong that ignoring him is the call

R437 Kit has such a good build. Joe has an unrealistically perfect little twink body

Joe posted on stories about going to aubreys play

It's very sweet that he's that supportive. Aubrey's never been the best actress in any of her projects, let alone alive.

R444 he’s a huge hypeman. His few pre s2 interviews were sweet that way, he hyped up tobie getting a storyline and said he killed it. I’m very interested to see the Agatha press tour

R441 Cool then don’t speak on Kit either.

R446 I like Kit tho, so there is a difference there. But I’m happy to mutually ignore one another if you stop making backhanded comments about him

Typical.

R447 Well I don’t believe you and since you want to dictate the thread, that’s what’s fair.

is tescos even that good, he is always there

Good lord, the person above said to ignore them and you’re indulging! Just ignore or get over it

R448 of course, Tesco's always keeping us updated on his location. Still in London then..

R450 It's a pretty average grocery store, to be honest. Maybe he just really likes their meal deals. At least he's not overpaying at Waitrose.

R452 Really curious about what Simona's quick trip was about. Personal? Last minute location stuff?

R454 I don’t think personal, because the 4am alarm story was about working in film

the story as reference: R285

Bash went to the Maisie Peters concert, still on the hunt for a new pop girlie, it seems. wonder if Kit and Tobie actually went as well.

r440 something similar someone said before and i agreed with it then too, the people who respond just make it worse and prolong it

Dylan made a tiktok with joe

Joe and Dylan.

R457 The only mention I've seen about Kit and Tobie at that concert was the random comment someone made on here.

R460 that‘s a lucky street light. he’s glowing.. glad he got to travel to a city he loves and spend time with Dylan who he clearly adores.

R461 yeah, still waiting for that source.

one of the repeats has a photo with Kit, im pretty sure its old from BFI cuz its the same outfit but im not sure

R461 I was the one who asked about Kit and Tobie since someone mentioned that rumor to me, there is no such source, although I don't understand if fans come across them, how come they can't do a good job and take a photo

R463 It is, I love how it’s always the same 3 creepy bitches.

Tobie saw Sunset Boulevard.

R464 But if someone mentioned a rumor to you there has to be a source, no? Like, the rumor didn't come out of nowhere?

R464 There should be, yes, but they only mentioned that to me, that's why I came here and asked if they knew anything, sorry for not having anything.

Anyway, I do love that joes “industry” friendships all seem really deep and not surface level and I think a large part of that is how genuinely kind and supportive he is. Every time he and Dylan are in the same place she makes sure to see him, he’s hyped Aubrey and Kathryn and Patti nonstop and gone out of his way to see Patti and Aubrey perform, Olivia clearly loves him, even baby queen who he’s less close than he used to be to has left really sweet comments on his last few posts and seemed really happy to see him and Kit at soho fest

literally everyone who knows joe loves him.. bash can’t relate

at home then. I‘m curious if he still lives there or just visits frequently

The Tesco in Purley is about 5 mins on foot from his family home and is HUGE, so obvs at parents house. Or maybe still there permanently when not filming .

Or when he is not sleeping in Joes bed or Tobies bed.

Not the stalker. Kit needs a restraining order at this point.

Joe followed this guy and liked his most recent post. In an unfortunate case of the world is small, he's mutuals with Walmart Charlie.

Funny, someone who was shitting on joe in the IG comments section of the HS post yesterday also just followed him, after joe did. Wanting to stalk the follows while they hate him, odd.

Seems like a good photographer, wonder how joe came across or met him

R475 Maybe met him at the play, maybe hookup app, or anything in between. There’s no visible link to Dylan, Eric, or Aubrey though. I‘m assuming they met though cause the guy’s in nyc.

R475 Hook-up? I don't see any obvious connections and he's also liked some of Joe's post (Halloween and Sicily dump).

How was he shitting on Joe? And why, he doesn't even follow anything HS related.

In a plot twist, that guy has taken pics of Walmart Charlie

He's the guy in this picture. Looks over 30 to me.

R478 no, i was unclear. This guy hasn’t. I clicked the following on his page and noticed someone’s blank throwaway account who was shitting on joe in the HS IG comments yesterday just followed him after joe did. Will never understand why the Lexxies are obsessed with keeping up with Kit and the weirdos like that IG user are obsessed with keeping up with joe when they can’t stand them

His pictures are low-key kind of shitty and he might be over 30? Uh oh…

R481 Oh sorry I was confused.

R482 Joe's type!

R482 i rebuke that energy, NO

I'm dying at the deceptive IG pfp vs what he actually looks like

Jeremy’s fiancé is mutuals with him, that might be the connection. Hopefully.

I mean could be a hookup which — as always joe can do better but clearly wouldn’t be serious so aside from judging the 30 year olds hunting down 20 year olds on apps whatever. But I’m pretty sure Joe legit JUST arrived in NY yesterday or the day before and spent all of last night with Dylan. Unless he met this guy on a hookup app today and followed him the second he met him, I’d lean towards them meeting in another way.

Honestly, we know absolutely nothing about the guy or why they followed each other. He’s a professional photographer (clearly very successful) so it could be for work. If it is a hook up, let’s not be Twitter arseholes and go into like some kind of weird protective mode.

He has no jaw line. Joe must enjoy that in a man

(maybe it's work related?)

Walmart Charlie, his art account, and his brother all follow him.

R485 Same, saw some of the older pictures on his insta and didn’t realise they were from years ago. He already looked too old for Joe in 2019.

R488 eh idt disliking an age gap is too protective. No one should be a freak and comment on his IG but I honestly don’t think most of it is about his job, no one cared about nick being an OF model and grocery store clerk. It would be, like tal, the age gap that’s weird. Though again I think it’s probably not a hookup actually

R490 Damn that industry world is small!

It would crack me up if he hooked up with a friend of Charlie's though. The world sure is small

R489 poor joe. I won’t drag his taste too much because his thirst follows, minus Derek Chadwick, are all actually hot to me. I think he just has low self esteem and doesn’t get even just looks wise, let alone everything else, he’s a total catch and can in fact net the hot muscular hairy guys he seems to prefer in real life

R486 I'll take it.

He’s a famous photographer. He worked with Troye Sivan recently. Could be really just for work.

I actually can’t believe it’s gone straight to hook up and shitting on some random gay. Jeremy’s finance seems like a direct link and other than that, we know fuck all about the guy except that his portfolio on his Insta is pretty impressive and he looks (is) too old if they fucked.

R495 At least he’s more defined than Lego

The thing about him being a shitty photographer was a jokey joke I was making at the expense of Lego, FWIW. I’m also the person that pointed out the fiancé connection.

R498 yeah he looks too old for joe and if they fucked I will judge him for the age gap, but I don’t think he’s ugly and I also think he’s actually a pretty good photographer. His style isn’t for everyone which is fair, but he does a good job flattering his subjects imo

r474 this guy is a photographer who exclusively works with high end fashion models. i follow a lot of models who often credit him in their posts. he also has an OF where he posts nude pictures of models he works with

R500 The internet is hard sometimes - I truly just didn’t pick up the joke, but I gotcha now. I think some others have jumped on the shit on him bandwagon prematurely though - by at least a number of days

I’m manifesting a slutty joe photoshoot idc!

On the real, this is a very wild theory based on absolutely nothing, but wonder if he might be taking cast photos for the play we’re all pretty sure joe will be in

Didn’t realise Jeremy had liked Joe’s Halloween post. I would fucking love to see Joe in one of his celebrity packed bowling nights. He knows fucking everybody

He saw flashbacks

R504 I was actually talking to a friend about that yesterday, that if he’s in NYC for something work-related I think it would be a cast shoot. Everything else other than rehearsals he could probably do from London. Only thing is that this guy hasn’t followed any other actors yet.

R506 Makes me laugh how close Kit gets to fuck around with Joe. Reminds me of him getting right up in Joe’s face while making that weird face in the bloopers.

R507 that makes sense. Few other administrative things it could be, like initial fittings for instance. If it’s a joe one man show where he gets naked I think DL may combust

R508 he should just kiss him at this point

For the person who was monitoring OF Nick, the story he posted is in SF so not with joe

Didn't figure he would go back to NY. He was just there last week or so. Don't really think he and Joe are like besties of even fwb. OF Nick got the benefit of rebound Joe for a couple days but not sure he'll ever get much else. He was blessed regardless.

R512 yeah I think friendly and fucked and Joe got his ass ate. Nick is blessed. Him folllwing twink charlie is still unhinged and will always make me laugh at how losing Joe at all ruins men, but hopefully tobie fucks him, and in exchange Tobie wingmans kit and Joe.

These people really think they can say whatever about the cast

r514 technically Kit never said they were ‘weird’ and had he even does not give you a right to say that as well. you are NOT their friend. is that really hard to understand ?

R514 If I could scream at all of these people that the cast are not their friends and they’re freaks for acting this overly familiar about them, I would.

They aren't even weird. Also pretty sure that's the person who made up that Kit hated his hair and how wonderful it was that he finally embraced his hair, then in the next tweet shit on Joe's hair, who had actually mentioned hating his hair. These fans are wild.

R515 honestly the “not their friends” thing is the bigger point. Joe never seemed annoyed other than jokingly bickering when Kit brought up his thumbs and coffee breath, but seemed extremely flustered when crunchy brought up the coffee thing, and Kit purposefully dropped the thumbs joke after over familiar fans decided it was their carte blanche to make fun of Joe nonstop. Like I believe Kit cares a lot about joe and vice versa and the shit they say about one another is all with love and in good faith. Same way the titkok joe and tobie made jokingly tagging Kit saying he’d get less attention if he was straight was clearly good humored and not overstepping coming from his close mates, but would be rude and shitty from a fan. Know your place

R517 correct, it is. He also credits himself as creating a HS twt revolution in being allowed to call the cast hot

R518 It’s also been 2 years since Kit said those jokes. These fans need to let it go.

And as is typical for HStwt being called out is a huge offense

R521 unsurprised about his toes. No doubt an ugly cunt. Sometimes I also can’t believe this fandom. If you’re a fan you don’t shit on someone. Except if you’re not really a fan of Joe’s, which is the case here

One of my friends has clubbed thumbs, we jokingly call her Caveman but if anyone else pointed it out we'd all throw hands.

Yaz in Manchester, wonder if they all had long weekends or if they'll be off longer than that?

This is the same guy who was offended for being called out for shitting on Joe’s hair in those photos of him in the Dior outfit. Which, aside from being cunty, was just wrong. Joe’s hair was short but it looked amazing there

R522 eh I am a huge Joe fan and agree overall he is treated like absolute garbage by the fans comparatively, but I will say one of the fandoms weird things with everyone, rather than just him, is over familiarity. Even shit like squealing nonstop and pointing out pics where they think Kit looks sooooo queer (basically always women), or shit like that. But given this person had a weeping meltdown over kits alleged insecurity about his hair (never heard that he was insecure about that, but sad if he did, he has great hair) only to then say joes actual physical feature he couldn’t change is weird, I get your point. Not saying every tweet needs to be slavish devotion, but they really need to get that they are not friends with the cast and they should not stray from acting like fans

R523 She must not be needed if they’re filming Nick’s vacation or Charlie’s inpatient stuff.

Kit mentions the hair thing at 0:44.

I'm assuming Nick's vacation is being filmed yet based on nothing but vibes and maybe other reasons. I wonder if Joe will stay in NY for a few more days anyway

R527 got it, thanks. I fixated on the Henry related books in that interview, which developed my initial suspicions, and also just generally how hot he looked. Well he has great hair. Still fucking ironic that the source of the “Kit hates his hair” that had the fan weeping was the vogue interview, meanwhile a comparable joe vogue interview didn’t rub off on him at all. Weirdo

R527 Thanks for the source. I did watch that, but didn't really remember. Sucks he hated it and I'm glad he likes it more now. Tbh, there was nothing wrong with saying you are glad Kit likes his hair, it's saying the next season Joe's hair sucks that make the person come across like a cunt

R530 Next tweet even

This interview is funny, Kit gives a completely earnest answer at around 2:02 about his first impression of Joe and Joe's all, "No bitch, it was the thumbs." Because Kit has a right to talk about them, but the fans don't.

R532 they’d also been asked that question so many times, and Kit said thumbs for all but one while joe gave a very funny answer about how he thought Kit was lovely but worried he was too tame to banter with only to discover Kit was thinking joe had odd thumbs. I think joe was kind of jokingly calling him on now saying it was something else. So agreed, I think the actual issue is fans, not friends. Reusing the comparison but Kit can make thumbs and coffee jokes, Joe can make the TikTok about getting less attention if he was straight for Kit because they are actually friends. Fans need to stay in their lane

Hopefully they reach a good deal by the end of tomorrow and this strike can be over.

One of Kit's stalkers posted the live picture of her "meeting" him.

R535 They’re trying the Hailey Beiber thing aka stalking their crush until he falls in love with them. Creeps

R535 I seriously don’t know how they’re not embarrassed about the fact that he can’t buy groceries without them pouncing

I'd be ashamed to ask for another picture after one. Maybe two if the meetings were months apart, but some of these girls have met him a dozen times.

R538 They also “ran into” Kit and Joe the night of the Attitude Awards in 2022. I can’t find the pictures but found this video. They looked so good that night.

R539

I forgot this haircut. Well, her twitter acct is good archive of anything Kit has done and how he looked over the years

R539 I always thought they had good chemistry but distinctly remember seeing the videos of them that night and thinking Kit was staring at joes lips

The happy couple tonight

R543 raymondjlee sorry forgot

They saw Sweeny Todd for those too lazy to look

R543 damn they really are tight. Where’s the pic from? He dumped tal and dumped tals brothers hair gel. The fluffier curls are cute as hell

The way they’re always determined to make it seem like they are constantly thinking of playfully bullying each other (the comments) Joe looks more like he would happily suck his dick idk. Jokes aside, he actually looks fond as fuck and not everything has to be about them ‘bullying’ each other ffs.

Wow they are like legit friends. What is this like hangout 5 that we know about.

R546 there was a similar one of Kit looking at joe where they said “he looks like he’s about to joke about what joe is saying” meanwhile he was staring at his lips. They are both very funny and have great banter but agreed not everything is them about to mock

MKes sense I guess since Elle is transferring

MKes sense I guess since Elle is transferring

R550 Nothing against Bel, she seems nice, but nobody needs all of that

That posted too fast, sorry. Bel is back for s3. Honestly find the lambert storyline boring but I’ll always be rooting for the trans cast so glad for her and Ash.

R551 I feel you and I’ll be annoyed if we have yet more side character storylines, but honestly I can handle the Bel and Ash one. They have a cumulative like. 8 lines and are mostly there to make Elle feel less alone. It’s the fact that we’ll have to deal with imogen going “NiChOlAs omg I like sAhAr 🧿🧿” that I’m weary about

R552 Wish Alice would actually make their characters interesting and not just trans rep 2 and 3.

Looks like Chasten and Pete Buttigieg were at Sweeney Todd, too. Wonder if they met Joe?

Charlie’s latest art is saint sebastian, havent checked but I’m sure the bash stans are in spasms of glee over it and it’s more proof, like the fact that bash’s parents love him, that bash is an angel. I’ll give it to Charlie, I do think he’s actually a really gifted artist

Feel like a real dumbass and a bad gay for not knowing anything about St Sebastian. I’m all Wikipedia’ed up now and painfully aware I’ve probably been nodding along to references to him with no fucking idea what I was actually listening to

The picture from Fisayo’s wedding made Will’s photo dump, Bash found dead in a ditch.

It's actually a new one, Joe's mouth wasn't open in the original one.

I like the version of the four guys in the bathroom Will posted better than Tobie’s original post.

Original.

That group is my Roman Empire, as the kids say.

You can tell Will's the model of the group, everyone else is in slightly different poses while he stayed true to his vision in both pictures.

RIP Bash… Will was his one safe space in terms of avoiding Joe, tough luck.

I support this poly 4 I absolutely need more pictures.

R564 Nah, Senastyian can rot

Sunday filming apparently

R567 The reference pictures in the background of the Story before that don't look like they'd be for Heartstopper to me, so I'm a little confused.

that would mean Joe’s already back in the UK… with him still being in the US last night NY time, I don’t know.. it’s almost impossible

Joe recently liked Will’s post, I would guess he’s still in New York and was just waking up.

I think most of us had leaned against Joe following that guy as a hookup, but him being with Dylan one night and Olivia the next makes it even more unlikely.

not like we‘ll know unless a work connection or anything else is confirmed, but the hook-up conclusion was obviously hasty

R568 It’s possibly he’s working on multiple productions at the same time.

R559 oh will also enjoys seeing joes mouth open. He’s just like me

R572 I think most people were just roasting him for no reason. Fun fact, I found that Olivia and joe pic from looking at Joe's following last night because the guy Joe followed put up the most cringe selfie in existence and was at some random show so I wanted to see if Joe was there since I'm a nosey ass. He wasn't, so going with just some random guy he met since he's kinda in the same theatre circles.

Joe and Dylan

Dylan also posted with Pete and chasten buttigieg, so maybe she was at Sweeney Todd with joe and Olivia and the guy who posted with them just didn’t recognize her?

R577 Could be, they're both wearing the same outfits. I think Chasten would have recognized Joe at least, he follows Kit on Instagram.

R577 Yeah, they were wearing the same thing as the selfie

Random, but kinda laughed at the guy knowing Olivia from HSM and not following her.

R578 I mean if he only follows kit I think it’s more likely he followed him after the whole coming out situation than from the show

R580 Yeah, but if he looked at Kit's feed at all he'd see Joe, he's the second most prominent person on his account other than himself.

Just checked, Chasten liked Kit's NYC/DC dump. Anyway, this.

R579 I mean that guy says he’s a big HS fan but doesn’t follow Kit. Must be a preference thing and no big deal.

R583 I think he followed Joe after meeting him, so I'd guess he's a casual fan that didn't look into the cast much.

yes, he followed Joe last night

R581 fair but honestly I think recognizing someone is sometimes a very after the fact thing. I’ve definitely seen people I later clocked accurately and thought they looked familiar, like newscasters, but didn’t immediately recognize at the time

Josh groban posted with Olivia, and with Pete and chasten. It’ll be wild to see Joe and Kit in a year or two be the level of famous where they’re getting recognized and asked for photos in the same way

R587 You can see Joe and Dylan’s heads in the background of the Olivia picture.

R587 Although I want their careers to boom, I hope they don’t get to that level of fame that quickly. Rarely seen celebrities adjust well to that type of success and attention.

It's going on 3 years. I think they'll be fine.

Also still a Joe will move to NY when HS is over truther, at least for a bit or spend a lot of time there in between filming.

He's probably going to have to move there for work within the next year.

Since the thread is almost over, #s DLer, can we get an update?

R591 Right. He could even move there next summer and rent a place in London if they renew for a final season.

Joe said it himself he misses America

I think the last time I updated was on the 21st? 15 days ago.

Joe was at 4,267,954. He’s at 4,253,788 now. Lost 14,166.

Kit was at 6,229,902. He’s at 6,226,688 now. Lost 3,214.

They've been fluctuating. Kit got a boost for the JWA campaign in between there, but started bleeding again.

I could see him splitting his time in between the two cities, but I can’t really imagine him moving to NYC more permanently. We’ll see.

Never going to get over that disparity.

I think joe will likely permanently live in London but can absolutely see him going out of his way to take theatre jobs and split time with NYC. He does seem to truly adore London as well

I don’t think Yaz is a good actress but I’m going to repeatedly vote for her out of spite.

R599 fuckers. While I was and am vocal about how much joe consistently being done dirty by the fandom is, including this snub, I still think Kit is extremely deserving so voted multiple times for him, and think Yaz gets way too much shit and transphobia and don’t care about the rest of that list anyway so voted multiple times for her.

Anyway new thread CONTINGENT on everyone including me because I have not always been the best about this not fighting dumb fights. If the first 30 comments aren’t all horny I’ll turn my back on DL