Heartstopper

DL’s newest fanfic: joes view in their hotel room Thursday night

And kits view

An oldie but goodie.

Just throwing back to the Joe post on Tal’s pic. Maybe it’s still going on but the lack of x on the bullying is telling from Gen Z, and tbh Tal’s response seems kind of bitter.

seems like the eye insider has replaced the hygienist one… can’t wait till Joe has moved on to the point where these comments stop as well, preferably sooner rather than later but those comments are harmless anyway

R5 anything’s better than the hygienist comments which made my skin crawl.

Joe comment doesn’t shift the needle on what I thought last night. I know some speculated completely done in every aspect, I thought and still think it’s more a comment that they were never anything serious. Joe knows all of 5 people in London who aren’t just through bash, 2 of them being tobie and Kit. Think he liked having someone to do things with occasionally in addition to fucking, and they’re not jumping into anything. We may still see them comment on one another’s stuff or hook up occasionally but not much else.

Will also say though for those handwringing if they’re not together now, after 3 months of being in the city nonstop, they’re highly unlikely to suddenly commit when joe is only free weekends, which are tals busiest work time, for the next few months, followed by joe very likely hopping over to America for a play or marvel reshoots.

R4 Joe doesn't always do x and don't think Joe would comment at all if there were any bitterness. Seems their normal shit and Joe's bullying

R8 That being said I agree with R7

At the end of the day, Lego is still fishing for attention from other guys by announcing that he's single in a topless Instagram video, changing his Instagram display pic, and then posting that picture on the grid for more attention in case anyone missed the pic change. I'm not worried. Main thing is that Joe isn't in his clutches the way he was in Bash's for too long.

R7 is there handwringing? I don’t think anyone will take it as a sign they’re still going strong (or ever were for those on Team very casual). My observation was that it seemed like a tone shift to me but clearly in the minority

Reminder that right after this breathy whispering an inch apart, hips pressed together, and Charlie straddling nick,they have a whole conversation about how neither of them wants to fuck

R11 tbh it was preemptive. I know some people took his story last night as completely done, joe ended it, and someone then said in the alternative that maybe tal was being sarcastic because the two mini pizzas suggested a date. So before anyone decides he was being sarcastic and they’re coupled up wanted to give my take on it which ofc people can disagree with

R12 I know they’ll be kissing less given that this upcoming season is the angst season, but I hope they go completely unhinged now that they’re both single and don’t have to worry about Bash’s feelings or whatever.

Would love to be a fly on the wall when Joe sees Lego's brother's Instagram Stories talking about the "war started on Israel."

The Dino charity is now asking artists to submit presumably unpaid designs for a charity tshirt to be sold this winter for which, naturally, bash and Connor will get all the credit. I understand it’s for charity and they’re not profiting but Jesus, bash especially is rich as fuck. They could offer a prize of some sort to the winner at a minimum.

R15 I have the feeling joe is pro Palestine but because he’s playing a Jewish character, really cannot comment on it without getting dog piled. Which sucks because anti Zionism Isn’t anti semitism

R13 Some people thought he was joking since he's got shitty humor, though I did think it was done. Going with no much has really changed and Joe didn't break his heart. Whatever they had is the same as it was

R11 I was one of the people wondering if he was being sarcastic yesterday, but given everything, I could see them going from casual but exclusive back to opening it up because as mentioned before, they will barely get to see/fuck each other in the coming months.. it really does track with the single announcement and thirst trappy posts

*R13

The guy Tal is tattooing in his new reel kinda looks like Joe and I hate that. I knows it’s probably not him but I had a mini heart attack.

R20 I don't see it?

I’m the one that brought Tal up on this thread because i fucking love the gossip but just going to make a quick observation closer to R12 vibes. This ‘ur so pretty’ kiss in the final reads so much like two people who are parting after fucking it’s crazy. The choices they made here, particularly the pause and breathing into each others mouths isn’t chaste. Why do they move so much when they kiss - Nick and Charlie really are horned up

Who's that with Bash?

R21 This one

someone just posted this lying about seeing joe and Bash holding hands in London. I think it‘s actually Bash? But doesn’t look like Charlie

Why are they tagging them with that nonsense

The account is randomly followed by Will too

Guy in the tank top looks pretty clearly like Charlie to me.

R20 I thought it might be too. So much I took a ss. Joe would have had recently got a watch but we haven’t seen one (though I did ask if he was wearing one in his birthday boy photos, but I think it was just his cuff)

That's Charlie in the tank, I can se the confusion since he also lacks an ass. That's his uniform. The guy in the black is Bash

R20 That one scared me too. Especially cause it was a reel with personal moments, so whoever is getting tattooed there wpuld be someone close to Lego

Funny that Charlie has a cute bouncy walk like Joe. Bash openly holding hands with him fucks me off. I don’t think Joe wanted things on the DL (so to speak) so it was probably just them protecting themselves from weird fan intrusion. Anyway, I hope he’s happy and he’ll now stop getting adults, who should know better, to pick sides in the break up of very young men

R31 I hope it's not Joe, but I also thought it was him when I saw the reel

R20 This guy? Has too much facial hair and never seen Joe wear a watch

R34 Plus Joe has distinctly thin and veiny arms.

R34 I‘m confused as I‘m only seeing a cut off version if that reel and there’s no facial hair

R32 It's just wild he goes straight into another serious relationship and does the exact say things with Charlie. Just replaces Joe with a new guy. Joe might not give a shit about him anymore, but I think I'd feel some sort of way about all that, though that's just me projecting

R36 yeah, I’ve never seen the facial hair in the reel either. Disaster avoided

R37 I’d feel all kinds of ways about him doing that while also still slandering me to his unwashed hordes.

Genuinely thought tank top was bash due to lack of ass

At least they‘ve untagged Joe

Not gonna lie, nothing about the whole situation disproves the Charlie fame fucker thing to me. Two fame adjacent exes, when he comes to London and Finland the people he meets aside from the weirdo family are all bash’s “famous” (being generous) friends, which to some extent is maybe organic but like… Harry lambert? Wade Briggs? Why are they first up to meet a new boyfriend? And he’s immediately taking him to an event? To be fair to Charlie though, may well be bash love bombing and dying to impress him, not him asking to meet them

Plus maybe this is unfair but that seems less like the bouncy joe walk and more like a strut. He whips the blazer (which is of course bash’s) over his shoulder, stuff like that

R41 They are both the same, so they are kinda perfect for each other

I'm assuming Bash is dumb enough to try to get the HS cast to meet him too or Kit at least

R35 joe has the hottest forearms

R22 that’s hot.. Joe‘s lips are just insane

Are those the Ralph Lauren pants bash got from a Wimbledon invite he received as joes plus one?

R42 Kit’s a nice guy, I can see him doing it if Joe genuinely is relaxed about the whole thing. If he’s not then not a hope in hell.

R41 what event? I saw someone mention that on that actually unhinged woman’s cc

R22 there is no way David Thackeray was telling them to suck one another’s lips like that. Also joe smiling/laughing into the kisses is so fucking cute

R46 London film festival. Sorry to burst their bubble but easy to get invites to, I’m sure the entire HS cast got them. A friend with a just random film blog got invited last year

R46 Kit is a really nice guy and I think would still like to be friends with bash; even though Im sure Joe feels some type of way about bash’s conduct and would be within his rights to feel weird about mutuals hanging out with Charlie, I think he’d say nothing; and I would not judge Kit at all for meeting bash and Charlie because as you say I think he’d absolutely run it by joe.

That being said I really hope he does not, primarily because Joe aside I think Kit deserves better friends than people who get mad and passive aggressive when he’s nice to their ex but sweet when they can use him to flog their charity or impress their boyfriend

R47 they certainly have a pretty hot and distinct style together that I’ve not seen replicated by other scene partners. Also the little blink Joe does after the more intense kissing scenes is such a good choice. Like he can’t quite believe it.

Kit could hypothetically pop up at the LFF next weekend, his Whitgift friend's movie premieres then.

R22 Such a hot kiss fr. No one on that show touches their chemistry.

R43 Opinion of unknown popularity, but my favourite picture of Joe is the one of him in the shorts from his Sicily dump, in part because of his arms.

R49 this is such a specific compliment but Joe really pulls off the low self esteem, “I can’t believe you’re my boyfriend”, feeling like he’s batting out of his league thing so well. It could so easily be draining or annoying to watch but he just makes Charlie so fucking cute. That plus Kit playing nick as so lovestruck — the Charlie anorexia and mental illness storyline, if Alice doesn’t fuck up the writing, will be really moving.

R48 I see Kit and Tobie meeting Charlie at Bash’s birthday party or something.

R50 I’m also a fan but more because of the dickprint tbh (or the Lockeness Monster as one of the fellas on LPSG call it, which made me genuinely laugh). But his arms are hot as fuck. As I said last thread, S4 confident Head Boy Charlie better be in skin tight school shirts with his sleeves rolled up and tight as hell pants

R52 I don’t think tobie will land an invite to bash’s party, ngl. Maybe as a way to needle at joe. I think bash is pissed at tobie for reasons relating to random unwashed friend lore. Agree for Kit and will though

R48 yeah, it irks me to think about Bash essentially treating Kit different based on how close he’s with Joe. Like you said, it’s just not a genuine way of maintaining a friendship.. but I also don’t wanna baby Kit and am gonna assume he’s not naive enough to try and be (close) friends with Bash if he feels like it’s only on Bash‘s petty terms or in any way taking advantage of him. I know he’s a sweet guy and obviously treasures his friendships immensely, so for Kit‘s sake I hope Bash either grows up or leaves him alone

I still randomly laugh remembering the mental gymnastics jealous twinks and girls were doing to explain kits comment to joe about how he was surprised the shorts fit over joes ass. “He’s being sarcastic because Joe is so skinny” “it’s an inside joke because Kit said his own butt was too big at the teen vogue shoot”.

No, joe just has an unrealistically nice body with a shockingly juicy ass for his frame and Kit, as a self respecting queer guy, a man of taste and an ass guy, is into it and joe overall

R55 I don’t think he’s naive at all but I think he’s a peace keeper. Joe is so exceptionally mature I think he is doing his utmost to not stand in the way of anyone being friends with bash as well, and Kit seems to be trying to be nice to him though clearly much closer to joe

It's killing me that the Bash stans are celebrating that video the way normal stans would celebrate their fave landing a job. Charlie walks like an idiot, by the way. Like he thinks he's on a runway in his head.

R56 Kit said what we were all thinking. I love that his first thought was "DAMN" and the second thought was about Joe's ass. Alos, just looked and the comment has 74,926 likes. Kind of crazy.

What are these bitches on? When exactly was bash the most loved by the fandom

Also lmao at the person who went on their little “you thought you ate ….. you thought you slayed ….” Rant with 400 ellipses like my grandmother’s typing

R57 I also think he genuinely cherishes his friendships. He and Bash always seemed like very good friends so I hope for Bash’s sake he can handle Kit being close friends with his ex.

R57 agreed, which is why I‘m still nosy af about what Sofi did to get snipped out of his life that hard

R58 exactly Kit just thought what we all did. Jealous twinks and ugly women need to stop hating on joe and just use his ass pics for gym inspo and his bone structure and jawline for plastic surgery inspo

R60 tbh I don’t think he and bash were ever super close but that’s irrelevant. We can agree to disagree on that

Starsign Gay mentioned that Kit is Pisces and apparently that has something to do with extreme loyalty to mates (?), hence his enduring friendship with Bash. I’m not down with this stuff but I do find it amusing that it often highlights personality traits (that are probably more coincidental than anything). Anyway, Starsign Gay, I miss these observations

R59 Not sure why she won't admit to not liking Joe like any reasonable person. I think all the former Bash fans here will freely admit to not liking him anymore.

And I could see Kit meeting Charlie in a group setting like a birthday party, but don't think he'd follow him.

R61 I'm about 70% sure that it involved clout chasing. Speaking of Sof, she was in a studio recording music the other day. Good luck to her.

R59 “You thought you ate...you thought you slayed..." sounds like a white girl trying to pass herself off as Black and/or gay online. Extremely embarrassing. Anyway, there was a period of time before the show came out where people half-heartedly gassed Bash up because he posted Kit and Joe a lot (lol clout chaser) but he was never loved because of his own merits. People just liked that he was a content provider.

He and bash barely saw one another if at all the entire time joe was away. Actually they were seen together/posted together zero times since December but I’ll be generous and say maybe twice or thrice they hung out and weren’t spotted. Not saying Kit hates him or doesn’t care about him, but while I think he wants to keep the friendship he is smart enough to know he/joe are not in the wrong here, there’s no way he’s missed how petty bash is being, and I don’t think he’s mourning the loss of a deep close friendship

I‘m not Starsign gay but recently realised that Will is Pisces too and it matches his dreamy, artistic vibe quite well..

R66 Yeah, it was pretty telling that the little group dinners wound up being Kit, Tobie, Will when Joe was out of the country even with Bash still around. Not saying they weren't/aren't friends, but I think Bash started drifting away from the rest of the guys at some point. And also pretty telling that Joe slotted right back in as soon as he was back.

R65 Bash was more "famous" using the word loosely, since he had been in more projects before, but Joe and Kit quickly overtook him and nobody cared about him anymore.

I’m not sure why anyone would care about Bash coping with Kit being friends with Joe when he’s been so consistently a cunt but sure. I agree they were close - I think filming in York together cemented that. However, whatever it was clearly isnt anywhere near the same level as it was and Joe and Kit’s relationship is almost oddly close for people who met just as costars. kit is the Kate to Joe’s Leo (this is a fucking joke - I couldn’t think of another famous known onscreen couple real life great mates example and I like the idea of Joe as a player)

R70 honestly I think they would’ve been closer if it was just up to Kit, if that makes sense. Bash seems like the type who keeps friends nominally in his life but cycles them in and out as suits him. He and Amybeth were extremely tight for years and then barely hung out from the type of HS filming s1 till his breakup, now he’s up her ass. He went though a period of being all over ty tennant, now don’t think I’ve seen them hang out since the birthday. He was close to Kit but then either didn’t see him or barely saw him since December,

Whereas Kit and joe seem to thoughtfully cultivate deep friendships and maintain them very consistently and well. Again, people can disagree, I just don’t think bash and Kit were on the same level as Kit is with joe, will, or tobie.

R66 yep, honestly Kit looks over the moon to be spending so much time with Joe, Will and Tobie lately. I know he was drunk in those lives but he‘s clearly living his best life with them, so I also doubt he (or anyone except Rhea for that matter) is missing Bash‘s presence.

R72 Kit largely being the instigator of Lives absolutely kills me. He’s such a random guy. Here is 20 seconds of my private life - enjoy.

R73 Tobie basically snapping at him "are you still live now, why!?" and Kit‘s lack of a reply are fucking funny to me.

R74 Tobie’s mild exasperation with Kit even in his own Lives is hilarious. Kit and Joe really are the little shits of the group. IMO they’re both way more spicy than the fans would cope with too. I think it’s more understood with Joe but I think Kit probably has a pretty bitchy gay sense of humour like Joe

R74 I‘ve not seen that part before. Will agree about the youngest sibling energy here

Since the Lives came up again, replying to a comment from the previous thread about them:

[quote]also made me angry on his behalf when he immediately mentioned his hair looking bad on the live and seemed self conscious about being filmed in general

I really do wish he could see himself like everyone else with taste does. He was worried about his hair and being filmed, meanwhile Kit's zooming in on him when he was laughing.

R77 Kit simping for joe is so relatable as are joes thirst comments for Kit. Two supportive hotties

R75 so funny how tobie adores both but sort of scolds Kit like a nuisance while coddling joe always. Cute twink power

R77 same. Also, his little off duty slim joggers and sweatshirt made his body look amazing (obviously through Kit’s loving lens)

I get the vibe that Kit might be into getting scolded, but that’s a different conversation.

R80 The way he smirked after Joe called him a twat in the Teen Vogue video? Absolutely.

R80 it’s relevant to the thread always to discuss how they like to be treated during sex. Accepted DL canon that Joe’s preference for impact play and being sometimes mildly sub, whilst also being a bossy bratty bottom have been honed over 100s of posts

R80 see I have long thought kits penchant for pleasing others but also how into the size difference with joe he seems coupled with joes combo of brattiness and his own eagerness to please would be an ideal setup. Bossy bottom joe getting his ass worshipped and ordering Kit around half the time, Kit spanking, facefucking, and throwing joe around half the time

R83 really enjoyed this imagery, cheers

The way Joe and Kit teamed up to troll Tobie about the vlogs was so fucking funny.

R84 same.. very happy I linked that tiktok and this is what’s coming off it

So many kisses were cut short this season. So homophobic.

Joe saw Next to Normal tonight

R88 that’s the second time Joe’s seen it, right? Didn’t he and Tobie go?

R89 it is. He’s a jack Wolfe/Caissie Levy stan now

Yeah, it's closing night. He said he loved it, so not too surprised. I'm stalking pics, but assuming he's on the side the person who noticed him is and haven't found any pics from the other side yet

Final night so guessing donmar might have invited some of the big names attached. I know David tennant was almost certainly there separately but would love confirmation of our Geoff fancasting

Hopefully he took a hot, age appropriate, burly date

His IOM friend Alicia is in town so I wouldn't be surprised if she went with him.

Archie madekwe was also there. Probably coincidence

David Tennant was there as well. must have been awkward

R96 why would that be awkward?

R94 wouldn’t even be surprised if he went with Tobie again and they just didn’t deem him famous enough to mention or something

R96 Why would it be. Do we think David at his grown age cares about the teenage breakup of a casual friend of his son

R96 David is a fully professional adult and as someone mentioned Ty and Bash haven’t really hung out and Ty still follows Joe. I’m sure it was as friendly as the 50 yr old father to your ex’s childhood mate would be in any circumstances.

Guy in the jean jacket might be David? Joe's impossible to find. Need super eye person to look through pics

R95 I’d rate this ship though

R100 Georgia (David's wife/Ty's dad) also still follows Joe.

Mom, not dad obviously.

R101 denim jacket definitely David, that’s a tiny sliver of Georgia next to him.

who was the moron in the last thread who said Joe would be Pro-Palestine ? i am pretty sure Joe would be Pro-not getting beheaded for being gay

R106 not gonna debate Israel Palestine with you mate.

R106 really let’s not at all. It’s absolutely not the place.

r107 sure. although technically it is more Israel Hamas

R106 Shut the fuck up.

Anyway, you're welcome.

Anyway, back to impact play and face fucking?

Why people can’t just read an opinion about joes likely politics and move on instead of starting their own political rants is beyond me. Go back to your other well considered opinions, like how David tennant probably hates joe on his son Ty’s one time costar for a singular episode of tv’s behalf

R110 crazy gorgeous. Looks like a woman next to him

R110 did you do the censoring? Source

R110 sorry, I sounded like one of those cunty comments on a DJL post. Do you know the Source is what I more politely meant

R110 That’s such a great shot of him

R114 No, the person that posted did, assuming because they're non-famous people.

Anyway, Harry Lambert just posted from a dinner and Dan Levy, Bash, and Charlie are there, so that's the Bash and Dan connection. Not a project.

R117 sorry bringing Charlie as a plus one to that is mental

R117 nice get for Bash there. Does Harry have any friends that don’t pay him?

Looking forward to the bash effort to have Dan levy unfollow joe and follow Charlie

You can see Joe at the very beginning stand up, on the left of the screen.

R121 Did he go by himself? Doesn't look like the people on either side of him are talking to him?

wtf is he even eating ?

R121 I’m really struggling to see where you mean

R122 he may have but I don’t think not speaking during a standing ovation is really an indication of that

R123 at a guess, ceviche

R122 That or the people who went with him are kind of rude. I did only skim, though.

R124

R123 Does this man own a normal shirt

I don’t want to bully Charlie specifically. But I will say every day I am reminded bash will never do better than joe. Tragic to peak looks and boyfriend wise age 20

Thanks super eye person since I'm a failure who watched that video like 10 times and didn't see Joe

R115 Sorry missed this, raveneallll.

Lurker.

R126 thanks mate.

Didn’t mention that R110 Joe looks absolutely fucking gorgeous. between this (the shape) and the beach scene I really do think Joe’s hair grows like weeds.

R129 I though that might be him but was a bit thrown because he looks taller than I expected but no doubt the floor is sloped

R131 Daily Joe Locke already posted it

R133 DJL posted it after.

Not people whining already, I hope this doesn't pick up.

R132 his hair grows crazy fast. He’s had 3 haircuts at least since June.

R135 they didn’t give a fuck when it was photos of Kit taken at Omar Apollo’s concert. Just want to shit on DJL. Homophobic fucks

R123 Armpits out at dinner is certainly a choice.

R135 Fraus are going to police all of the fan sites out of posting.

R134 Not that it matters, but Joe at the play was on CC for an hour before it was here so they might have gotten sent it. Just looked for the source before saying anything.

R136 It's just too much shitty product in his hair or humidity or not doing his hair. I've been saying this shit every time people whine about it. Justice for Matt who turned into a hair stylist.

R139 yeah was gonna say that joe Stan account has gotten things before DL a few times, so I’d believe they found or were DMed it.

R135 Apparently she didn’t get enough attention, she replied under the tweet too.

Actually responding to myself, because the Kit stans posted all those Kit photos from Omar’s concert I doubt this will pick up. Also, she’s some weird woman not really in the fandom and they don’t give a fuck about anyone outside their bubble (unless it suits their agenda).

If this is winning what exactly is a loss for them?being a bash stan seems so so hard. So little to celebrate

Why is Charlie wearing an undershirt out to dinner at a nice restaurant. Absolutely classless

R144 That's all he ever wears. You'd think he'd put on a shirt for dinner though.

Isn't it semi-chilly in London. Joe and his endearing always cold self is bundled up

I don’t mind Charlie wearing the tank top because this is a dinner of people who think Harry lambert is a good stylist so presumably he’s still best dressed. But the famefucker allegations (or bash pulling out all the stops to impress him) are going nowhere

That former joebash girl posting back to back that she thinks joe looks nothing like Charlie and that Charlie is gorgeous, lmao. Just say you think joe is ugly with your whole chest

They need to keep it a buck, Charlie is super plain-looking. It's why his "modeling" career is at an Instagram influencer's level.

R148 he’s a bit too pretty for me but I honestly think he’s pretty objectively attractive and see how someone would be very into him. Honestly for me his TikToks are charisma vacuums, and that’s his primary issue

I know people say he'll try to get Dan to unfollow Joe, though Dan isn't into monogamy so doubt he's gonna be moved by the plight of a breakup with a teenager, but my crack theory is Bash is trying to get Jonathan Anderson to follow him. Jonathan trolled him by making him wear that minion that shirt and didn't even follow him.

Emma Corrin was also there, see if she follows Bash

R149 He's good looking enough, but just kinda fake looking. He's probably never taken a bad angle pic in his life and filters everything. And is annoying with no charisma. He's too good for Bash regardless.

R150 he got that atrocious outfit and still no follow. I don't think Bash would ever become one of JA favorites but its fun to think of him stewing over it

R149 I don't think he's attractive or ugly, I just think he's basically a collection of the blandest, most neutral-looking features on a person. There's nothing compelling about him. Hence, plain.

I think Charlie is cute and way above Bash’s level but he also seems absolutely devoid of personality. I’d fuck him but I wouldn’t take him to brunch or buy him an oat milk latte

R150 I wouldn’t be surprised, the sudden uptick of his likes on Jonathan’s posts (except when Kit is involved) doesn’t scream organic.

R153 that’s fair. To me part of what makes Joe so appealing is he has a combo of the crazily pretty but also still looks very angular, interesting, and masculine. Like there’s a reason every few months there’s a hit tweet about wanting Joe to play a villain, something about those dark deep eyes, insanely sharp bone structure, and downturned lips is just so hot. Charlie doesn’t have that. But the bigger delta by far is charisma. Even in the dorky pre game tiktoks we’ve seen Joe pop up in he’s so appealing and likable. I can’t say charlie is unlikable, he’s just kind of blah to me.

But I’ll also admit that extremely wealthy white kids with vanity careers are people I’m maybe already predisposed to not love so maybe I’m biased against him and bash

His tiktok is pretty awful. Personally think he might be a match made in heaven for Bash since he gets to show off for him with celebs since I don't see Charlie going anywhere in acting or modeling and he's never going to have some huge break out role that would require Bash not to be the one to put in effort to go see him. He can always come to him.

R153 Yeah, I see that. He just looks like every other IG wannabe model out there, but is too short to actually model

R157 Bash wouldn't be the one who has to put in effort. I can't type

Since we know his lack of ass couldn't be bothered to go see Joe more than twice in half a year but everything was wonderful when Joe had to fly to see him in London

Bash wearing this garbage outfit with that Morticia makeup, doing a whole Instagram takeover for the JWA show, and having literally nothing to show for it will never not be funny. At least the drains paid off for Kit and he got to show off his arms in them.

Honestly, if Charlie makes Bash chill out and no other fame adjacent people unfollow Joe like losers I’ll happily not chat about them (or rather scroll on when they’re being discussed - you guys knock yourself out). But I really hope Bash isn’t there bad mouthing Joe when he’s got Charlie with him. Being with the guy who’s obsessed with his ex isn’t fun

R160 I mean nell unfollowed Joe right after a week with Charlie so sadly…

I feel like Harry lambert and bash are just an absurd partnership. Bash isn’t famous enough OR famously edgy enough like Harry’s other clients to get invites or fashion looks (Emma corrin is thought highly of as an actor, Harry styles is A+ list). And he’s not someone like Will who can pull off literally any outfit he’s given and make it look good. Most of his best looks and invites were through Joe. Now that that’s gone best of luck to Harry trying to make him a fashion it boy

R161 oh yeah. Well would kind of feel for him if he didn’t seem to be fame fucking then. It really is shitty to have to listen to the guy you’re dating shit on his ex to others. Doesn’t make you feel very valued

R163 his last ex with an Oscar winning mother is still clearly pining after him so he’ll be ok. Cannot believe the in law downgrade. Sally Field to the Crofts.

R162 Emma should sue Lambert. The shit he’s put them in is awful

R165 I mean I agree and I think Emma absolutely could’ve had a bigger fashion name by now absent lambert. But they’ve still got a look and edge and professional respect bash just doesn’t

R162 Other than Kit and Joe, Will would be THE guy to pick up. Beautiful, talented in multiple fields, up-and-coming. I’m glad that he has that relationship with Kenzo.

R167 yeah that’s why I mentioned Will specifically. I think Joe and kit both have insane it factors and look incredible in most things they’ve worn but I can remember thinking some were misses or could be better tailored etc. will looks like everything is tailored to him and has fantastic fashion sense in his daily life. Plus actor/musician, literally a model.

R158 Joe filming probably the most anticipated marvel show since wandavision as the lead? Bash will see when he’s not busy being unemployed or paying to hang with monks.

Bash doing absolutely fuck all on his parents dime in London for 2021-2022? Joe should visit biweekly fuck his a levels

R164 Steel Magnolias being a formative part of the gay education I was given by my Elder gays, I am actually without comprehension of the In Law downgrade. It must be an absolute culture shock

R170 If a steel magnolias scene sound trends on tiktok Charlie will suddenly remember he knows Sam and ask him and sally to do one with him

R159 he looked very bottom heavy in this outfit which is interesting as he has literally zero ass

Fucking lol

R173 She’s still fucking going? Get a life.

Random, but Sam unfollowed Will, who was the only person in the cast he followed. Not sure why he caught strays, not like he's Bash's bestie. Still follows Connor though.

R173 Why does this girl sound like a Jack stan who doesn't want Joe to take any attention from him or something. She's not a HS fan. He's not going to lady, don't worry about it.

Nm, she does have some HS tweets, so I don't know what her deal is. Seems more of a casual fan who wants to shit on Joe for whatever reason

R176 I think she’s shitting on DJL tbh but either way, she seems strange. I was amused by the call out in her reply but as she’s got not traction I’ll let it go now. The Will thing is fucking funny

R159 He looks fucking awful.

There’s no way I’m coming back to 70+ replied and all that happened is Bash and Charlie went to dinner together… Not even a drunk live or something?

R179 I feel your pain, here’s another Joe shot from tonight.

R179 Joe went to a play? R83 had some insightful things to contribute though I guess that all more than 70 posts ago

70 posts is nothing. If something actually happened there would be at least 300 posts. Coming back to 30 posts is usually a fight, 70-100 is just us being messy bitches.

R180 Unmatched bone structure

Joe is very sweet but he should definitely unfollow Harry.

From Lily Drew's Instagram, 9 hours ago.

R184 I thought the espresso martini explained the Charlie bullying. Reaching maximum on people being bullies online while hyped up on coffee liqueur makes sense, but those comments were left days ago. How were they only spotted today

Still cringing at Lego's moronic ass unfollowing Dylan because she didn’t immediately follow back

R185 I feel like Joe is much more likely to comment from the Charlie account on a costars post while drunk or laughing with the costars in question than just while hanging with Dylan mulvaney but ymmv. That friendship is really endearing. Dylan is an extremely warm person, I’m glad Joe has someone in the US he knows like that too

It’s so funny seeing my fan cast from back in April pick up traction on HS Twitter now.

R188 great and realistic fancast but fuck. Joe’s perfect face

R180 that face

Talk upthread about Jonathan Anderson (elevating K and not following B)…….I was around when Kit wore the drains and took Sof to Paris. I think it was June 2022. Was that his first time at Loewe?

How would the connection have been made to get Kit onboard, how do these collaborations happen???

K and J seemed so close and warm in that interaction 2 weeks ago, they seem like real friends. How does that even happen ???

Delighted for both but curious how these introductions happen

Love DT and a great fan cast, maybe his wife will spoil him doing filming around the Heartstopper area on her Insta lol

R191 It was actually his first Fashion Week, period. He mentioned being overwhelmed by it in the British GQ MOTY profile. He went to two shows, Loewe and Kenzo. His Loewe appearance was documented by British GQ, it mentions that he was invited by the brand/Jonathan and styled by Jonathan for the show, and Jonathan seemed to take a shine to Kit immediately because Kit never went to a non-Jonathan show again after that point. Pretty sure there's video of them meeting at that show, presumably for the first time, floating around somewhere. Also, a lot of other people at Loewe/JWA seem to like Kit a lot, an easy example but Hot Loewe Guy leaves some of the warmest comments he leaves on celebrities linked to the brand on Kit's posts.

[quote]K and J seemed so close and warm in that interaction 2 weeks ago, they seem like real friends. How does that even happen ???

In short, Jonathan really liked Kit. That's about it.

The way a lot of the pictures are meme worthy but instead fans want to cry about ‘leaks’ in a public place.

Just bringing this back up, but noticed Joe's tiktok suggestions when you search his name now have negative things about him, so him leaving a Charlie comment saying wtf was that was probably something he saw someone say about him as others mentioned. Those absolute cunts. I know someone mentioned the whole thing wasn't as funny as it appeared, but didn't realize his tiktok searches were now getting nasty.

r195 a lot of it is because of idiot fans engaging and thereby bringing more views into those shitty tts. happened a long time ago on twt as well

R193 Thank you so much . JA knows talent and charisma , and I really like their friendship.

R197 it’s been a really synchronistic (unofficial) partnership. Based, obviously, on an actual good relationship, but Jonathan got in on the ground floor with a young talent that has extremely rare levels of online engagement who became a media darling and Kit formed a relationship with a creative director that was coming into his full power. One of those relationships that happens in fashion occasionally

R198 Yes, that seems a perfect explanation on their professional partnership and their friendship, it seems very organic and natural, rather than it being forced.

Lots of talk that Next to Normal will transfer to the west end, I would love to see it, so I hope so.

I had forgotten about the film Black Dog at the LFF on Sat and Sun next week. It is sold out, but I may try and get returns.

Next to Normal is getting rave reviews from what I've seen. Well, The Guardian hated it but fans seem to love it and most other reviews are glowing.

And wonder if Kit will go see All of Us Strangers at LFF before he has to start filming again.

Joe posted about going to the play.

And this randomly showed up on my google news page, not sure about the obsession but staring Bash's friend Sam and Kate Winslet's son, which they kind of randomly put in there like he's an actual new comer. Written by Josh O’Connor. Not sure if it's been mentioned, but people are always looking for new things to watch.

[quote] feels cut from a similarly sensitive and sweet cloth as the hit Netflix series, albeit with a deadpan sense of humour and a little more swearing and drinking.

R201 I think Bash might have shared Sam’s ig of the trailer and I saw it then. Looks cute. I don’t wish the HS fans on them. No one deserves that

R201 Oh, so like heartstopper but actually good and realistic? I’ll definitely check it out.

Joe following count on his main is down by one, unfortunately not Lambert, can anyone spot if he's unfollowed someone or is it a deactivation?

Damn, Josh O'Connor has done so much queer shit.

R204 I can't figure it out. Must have been a random account. Nobody he should unfollow is gone.

I like that Kit isn't totally beholden to Loewe/JWA, but we still see him in their pieces in his shoots. He wore the metallic coat that Taylor Russell recently wore to the PFW show for Numero Netherlands.

when robbiewhiteuk says he’s off to London later for a busy week ahead, does he mean Slough? wondering now what the story on Friday was about

Harry lambert just posting jumpscares

Well, he has nice eyes at least.

R199 transferring to the west end? Bash can’t relate. Still funny the play was literally meant to be in the West End originally, had the same female lead and director, and yet when bash played the role, not even a whisper of a west end run

Lucy unfollowed bash on insta by the way

R212 Finally

R209 That honker, he looks like a moai. 🗿

R212 Gonna assume he was privately a complete cunt recently in some way since that side doesn't react to anything

I like Alice trying to act like she’s completing huge tasks

R215 Or it’s been months and he’s clearly in a new relationship that he wants everyone to know about. I don’t know why she was still following him.

R217 yeah, the timing is pretty obvious..

Yeah, there was no point in her continuing to follow him. Joe and Bash didn't end the relationship as friends and Bash presumably blocked her from his private. Might as well finally unfollow now that he's gone full-throttle with his new twink.

I think she actually might’ve unfollowed him before he posted Charlie everywhere. I noticed last week and forgot to post here. Without knowing exactly, I’m wondering if it might have been after Nell unfollowed Joe. There’s only so long that you all can be the bigger person, not sink to their level, before it gets absurd. Joes friends all being nice and neutral about bash for months while bash continues to shit on him so much people unfollow months later is crazy

Another picture of Joe and Kit on the beach.

R220 who knows but even then he‘d already posted Charlie in the Finland dump and posted several stories with him..

R222 sure but he’s been posting Charlie vaguely forever. I just don’t think Joe gives a fuck about that. My guess is it’s more Nell related, but who knows.

And in regard to why she was still following him — idk, because Joe and his side have been approximately 20,000 times more mature and classy about this? I am guessing for a while at least joe hoped they could be friends? He’s not petty or immature enough to want his friends to mass exile his ex? See also ash throwing tantrums and giving Kit silent treatment for staying friends with joe while joe doesn’t care about friends liking or commenting on posts with Charlie in them.

R221 they better save all these

R224 Sure but at some point it’s a bit useless to be this neutral. Bash is clearly not neutral as in he wants nothing to do with Joe. He moved on and want to post about Charlie everywhere. Why subject yourself to that? I hope Joe will unfollow all of them one day but who knows.

Lily Drew also saw next to normal but it looks like she was sat somewhere else in her story

R226 ymmv. I think joes classiness and maturity, including not reactively unfollowing everyone and urging his friends to do the same, are very attractive and have made him look much better than bash in this breakup, but you can think otherwise

R217 Because fans stalk her account and they probably didn't want any drama, but who cares about it at this point when the other side in incapable of people decent human beings even in appearance.

@pav8ra on tt says they just saw Joe in central

IDK how to link sorry

Actually I think it was yesterday sorry

R230 Video was uploaded 22 hours ago.

R232 Apparently disappeared as soon as he appeared

"leather jacket and all" I need pics

R232 leather jacket? I need to see that

R228 It’s not really about that - I think Joe’s been very mature with the whole thing. It’s more about removing yourself from spaces and people that see you as a villain no matter what.

R236 sure, as I said we can agree to disagree. In joes shoes, I would’ve unfollowed everyone already and been way prettier in response to what bash and his unwashed friends and family are up to. But I think there’s a reason Joe kept all the mutuals much closer to him and it’s because he has been so mature and professional about it. While Amybeth, Nell, and Emily would all need to shoot up in success in a shocking way to even get an extra role in something joe is in, it is a small industry and small world. Even if he unfollows them at some point, I think waiting so long, not being petty, and having his family and friends be the same is a good reflection on his professionalism

R237 I see your point. I do find it sad though. The demise of that relationship but that’s life I suppose.

You guys ever burst out laughing at a tweet?

R239 Queer excellence is depending on your parents for money and/or industry connections.

Bash cannot dress his body for the life of him. Anyway, sorry to be a dick but it really shows how little they have to celebrate about if bash getting a boyfriend or going out for dinner is making them have rhapsodies of pleasure about queer excellence.

R241 Ngl, I really do like Dan Levy and he's very beloved in the industry even despite being a neop baby. So I'll kind of reluctantly admit that Bash did good with this connection. But as to the picture itself, Dan is the only one there remotely giving queer excellence.

R242 Dan is a HS Stan, and already followed bash, joe, Kit, etc. I don’t really think this is a connection bash made. And end of the day Dan may like bash fine but when he’s casting projects probably wants actors who can in fact act

R242 That’s what I thought. Can’t even say anything bad about it. It’s a good guy to have as a friend in the industry. We need Joe and Kit to find hot, young boys to date so we can stop talking about Bash.

People’s allergy to talking about bash on here is getting a little annoying. Scroll.

R242 *nepo, not neop, my apologies

R243 True, plus I assume Dan is a consumate professional and would of course be friendly to a young queer actor and his generic twink boyfriend of indeterminable employment over dinner. Like you say, it doesn't mean he's actively scouting them out for roles.

R245 If you wanna talk about someone who’s not even in the cast at length, do so but people will complain.

R247 if you want to police the threads and be bitchy about people talking about a former cast member who dated the lead for years, do so but people will complain

Not going to lie, the only time I've heard about Dan Levy since Schitt's Creek ended is when he was getting dragged for being on The Idol so I don't know that anything will come out of that connection. I don't think he's developed anything of note since the show ended.

Also WWing yourself rapidly is obvious mate, word to the wise

Tobie posted.

R251 he’s been looking so good.

Hi roommate commented “my sexy date” so he was out with her. That’s cute, they seem very close

R250 You say that every-time like are you shocked some people may feel differently from you?

R254 nah but when there are 0 likes on your post for 5 min and then 3 or 4 back to back right before you reply to me, bit obvious mate. At least space it out, you know?

Joe commented "Get off your phone at the dinner table"

Dylan Mulvaney followed jack Wolfe and Caissie Levy from Next to Normal yesterday (i think, they’re her most recent follows) so guessing while they sat separately, she and lily saw it “with” joe and they got drinks before or after based on lily’s story

R255 Sure, mate. Whatever you say.

R256 Tobie's reply back to him is so funny. "soz, was texting your dad". Tobie really out here trying to usurp Joe's brat status.

His reply to Kizzy too: "We only do hard launched bbs 🥵😎"

*launches jfc

R256 Flashback to Bash not even looking at Joe because he was on his phone at the table when he visited him in Atlanta.

Kit commented with a dog sticker lol

R263 Tobie replying with “wtf” made me laugh.

Joe followed Jodi back.

Leo e Basta on tt has just posted Joe and I think this one is from today

R267 he got the dior sweater in the breakup ?

R226 yes, the caption says 8th October

R267 It's not the Dior sweater, looks more like a cardigan from the back. This is what the Dior sweater looks like.

R268 Joe and his big feet. Disappointing he’s not in his tight jeans (though we did lose those to the short shorts)

R268 On Oxford Street apparently

R212 Btw she‘s back on public and also back in Chichester, so no semester abroad after all. Soz Aussi DLer, no running into Joe in Sydney any time soon

R272 for the best. I would have been a tongue tied, horny idiot if I’d met him. Complete lack of chill

looks like the girl who met Joe, Kit, Tobie in August and only asked Kit for a pic went to Lyme Regis to see them again. here’s a little video..

R274 yeah, that rude bitch. What a coincidence that she just happens to be in this random town miles from London.

R274 Still can't get over her reasoning for not asking them for pics and acting like she was being polite to Joe and Tobie for not asking. Just say you only care about Kit and be done with it.

R276 still can’t believe not a single person in the fandom had a go at her about it

R277 oh they would have if it was only a picture of Joe and she ignored kit and Tobie, don’t worry

@therealarchiemerry posted some stories on TikTok about “meeting” (passing by) joe, kit, tobie and Yaz today. Weirdly he says alll four of them at first, then his story only mentions kit, tobie (or as he says “tobey”) and Yaz. But in the comments he confirms joe was there too. Unclear how it’s easy to forget one of the two coleads but whatever

Think bash kept the Dior sweater, though joe really should have. Doubt bash would have been invited to the opening of a Dior shop, much less front row to PFW, without joe.

R279 fucking weird that he mentioned him in the first story but not in the second but sure guy. I guess he’s just kind of a cunt. Anyway, myths busted about Yaz being too good for the cast.

R279 yeah, it’s strange cause he double forgot to mention him in that second story (caption and what he‘s saying). Wonder when they met up since Tobie seems to have been out with Jodie during the day and night

Maybe we‘ll get some photos later. That whole group would naturally catch fan’s attention

The videos in case people don't want to navigate to TikTok. He saw them 8 hours ago.

R282 Jodi could have been with them and that could explain Joe following her back. Don't think the fan would have necessarily clocked her. And Yaz is one of the cast members she follows.

They’re really obsessed with each other if they’re hanging out after having already spent the week together.

Will is perhaps doing something wasia related if he’s not hanging out with them. He seems to be taking it really seriously, good for him

R285 I guess it could have been work related but the whole production does seem to be pretty centralised at the school. Regardless, wandering around together at all is pretty hilarious. It’s like Kit and Joe being spotted at Costa together in the middle of a filming day - you’d think they’d be sick of each other, but no.

R287 yeah, as mentioned upthread, the robbie extra is also in London since today and mentioned having a busy week ahead or something, so maybe it was something production related

R287 I want to say they had the day off between Tobie on Jodi's Story and Joe being spotted on Oxford Street, but who knows.

Probably work related, since slight shade I don't think Yaz would just hang out with them otherwise

If it was work-related, Yaz but no Will is legitimately weird.

Well, let's go with them just hanging out since it amuses me to kill the glue theory further.

R291 maybe work and then that group was headed in the same direction for a bit or something

R291 agreed. Will’s pretty distinct as well so guy would be unlikely to miss him if he was behind them or something. I don’t think it’s outside the possibility that Yaz, having spent more time with them recently, was invited/decided to hang out with them.

R292 ‘Glue theory’ excellent non-specific shade.

Legit asking, did Any of the cast ever say bash was the glue?or is this like kits alleged boundary of not being called hot made up by the fans? I remember in early interviews people said he was most active in the gc, planned things, and was involved in helping them all start to hang out and become close but I cannot recall anything nearly as dramatic as the glue of the cast.

Also if he was glue he was shit at it because they all stopped hanging out all together after s1 filming, well before (nearly 2 year before) the breakup.

The Attitude Awards are on Wednesday, would love to be surprised by the attendance of some of the main cast but kind of assuming it’ll be the bit players that show up, if anyone at all.

R296 with them filming i seriously doubt any of the mains would show up

R296 I think much less likely because they’re filming. I know they were last time but they were honourees so making the effort made sense. I think you’re right that if Bradley and other C Team are free they’ll go along but I don’t think Cori and Kizzy will be there for example (though obviously they are basically A Team)

R296 Could see the side characters who just got a cover going.

R295 I think in S1 the cast was really complementary towards Bash because he would plan groups events and stuff? Honestly I'd have to go back to actually read shit about him. I think his fans have exaggerated it over time.

Joe has mentioned he was envious of his social skills, though seriously... he's the richest kid there, the one who had worked the most in the cast minus Kit, and Kit was more introverted, so it makes sense Bash kind of took over there, but once the cast got to know each other they didn't need Bash. He wasn't even the glue when he was with Joe since those two were always by themselves 90% of the time.

R299 also them taking joe, who is generally speaking extremely the most complimentary of the cast towards everyone and who is extremely self conscious, gushing over his at the time boyfriend and insisting it’s gospel truth is so weird.

Forgive the update account but speaking of last years attitude awards. He’s so perfect looking. Throwback to us all thinking he had a mesh shirt on because his skin is so smooth and flawless

R300 Joe "Bash is the most photogenic man I've ever seen" Locke was not a unbiased source of information at the time. And they hate Joe now, so not sure why they use things he's said about Bash as the truth now.

R302 imagine if their sunshine boy praised his better looking, more charismatic, more talented boyfriend even 1/4 as much

R300 Speaking of Joe being self-conscious, I was rewatching the Independent interview Joe and Kit did and the way he bashfully reacted to Kit complimenting the scene he did with Jenny in S1 is endearing (if a little frustrating when you think about it for too long in a broader context of just how self-conscious he is).

R304 given Joe hypes up literallly everyone for everything, I’ve always loved that Jenny especially and Kit really reciprocate that energy and admire him vocally back

R295 Kizzy and Corinna mentioned Bash was the one who got everyone together and planned hang out sessions with the cast back when they did promo for season 1. I assume that’s where it started.

R306 I know, that’s the interview I referenced in my comment. But I asked about glue, because they all repeat that word like it’s a direct quote and I’ve nerves heard any of the cast say it

I think it's an urban legend like the Kit thing as you said. There's no direct quote calling him the glue that holds them together

Sometimes I wonder how people can possibly praise Alice as a writer so much. Then I see shit like this and remember their standards are LOW.

Just came across this thread (twt Matt‘s in there too, surprise surprise) and this person has a whole twt dedicated to hating on Kit and Kit and Joe’s friendship.. Is it Lexxie? Because they made a similar comment regarding Kit‘s "ur cute" comment being about Jodi

R310 we’ve seen that account before. Just an unhinged loser who doesn’t believe Kit is bi and weirdly hates him. Clearly doesn't give a fuck about joe or tobie, just uses them to shit on Kit. She didn’t tweet for a while because she was being ignored, so best to report snd block her as like most trolls she feeds off any attention.

R309 ugh the character rp accounts are weird they just give me major cringe

R311 Okay, don‘t remember seeing that one before. Reporting will hardly work but yeah, blocking them, they‘ve been on a roll since the beach content

R310 That's the weirdo who started the Jodi thing.. Kinda funny another Kit hater called her out for making up bullshit. Not sure if she's Lexxie or not.

I don't get the whole deal with acting like it's some got you that Tobie is always with Joe and Kit anyway. Does she think Tobie is keeping the peace and without him they'd throw down and fight. And if one or the other isn't around lately, you can be sure they are busy or out of town.

R314 Yeah, don’t get it either, it’s normal for friendships to have certain dynamics and a trio one is hardly a sign of two people in that group not actually liking each other. The reasoning is entirely off. The funniest thing to me is them trying to make Joe’s resting pouty face about him disliking Kit

R304 The way they hyped each other up in this interview is especially touching when you remember that it was part of a campaign for awards that they would have been up against each other for. No ego between them, ever.

R313 I think reporting is more for my own catharsis in this case as “technically” she’s not saying anything against terms, it’s just every clear what her agenda is. Most of the time I know “just ignore and block!” Is annoying (as a joe Stan I see that said about literally hit tweets hating on him and it drives me insane, ditto biphobic accounts about Kit) but this specific lunatic did shut up for a while when she stopped getting any replies or interactions, so I think starving her of attention is the right call here

The JoeKit fans and whoever need to stop arguing with that person since that's what she wants and they are terrible at it

Joe said many many times how much he cares about Kit and how much he means to him. What more do they want?

R274 another blurry picture - apparently it was her friend taking the video and apparently this is the cast waving at them. she posted this as defense against that one account that’s always calling people out about the leaks lmao, two dumbasses interacting basically..

R319 Part of me wonders if those lunatics go out of their way to try to invalidate their friendship because they think that the friendship is one of the things that quote-unquote outwardly validates Kit's bisexuality. Joe was defensive over Kit's sexuality even before he came out and Joe is one of the friends Kit acts freely queer with (the Farragut Square Story, the comments and posts on Instagram in general, stuff like that).

R321 honestly maybe but mostly I don’t even think it’s that, it’s that people are fucking psychos and will throw every accusation possible that could be hurtful or damaging at them. It’s not enough to just be biphobic and say Kit is a straight guy dating Jodi, they have to say he makes joe viscerally uncomfortable and is using tobie to get to his roommate. It’s not enough to say joe is ugly, they have to say Kit is probably repulsed by having to kiss him and deserves a raise. They’re just horrible malicious people. But you can tell it’s never really actual fans of the other one because lbr, no real joe fan is going to say “yeah joe is a liar, every time of the countless times he’s said he loves, appreciates, and admires Kit he’s been lying about it” and no real Kit fan would say someone he obviously adores and has been very touchy with and described as beautiful is someone he’s secretly repulsed by.

R321 I think it is. Now that it was mentioned they made up the Jodi story, I remember them trying to invalidate Kit and Tobie's friendship by saying Kit only hangs around Tobie so much because of Jodi.

Joe’s little Resting Victorian Orphan Face always makes him look a bit unimpressed. If he ever actually becomes properly interesting to the tabloids, they will have endless ‘evidence’ he’s pissed off or sad.

R322 The high that people get from being cruel online is fucked up.

R324 yeah the resting pout is fucking adorable. It’s funny because even with that, you can generally tell when he is actually upset (pride) versus times he just has resting sad face, so idk why people make up fanfic about how morose he is to be within 5 feet of Kit on set

Poor Jodi. All the woman has done is exist in proximity to Kit

R322 In this case, they are all sad pathetic people. Once I saw a Joe hating Kit fan go on and on about not being able to afford Kit's cologne. Yes, it's pricy, but.. it's not like outrageous. The person said it was more than they made in a month and I thought maybe he had more problems and should worry about that instead of hating on Joe Locke and his thousand dollar clothes and his leading roles in big shows. Like not even worth bothering talking to such people.

Now I sound I like hate the poors, but if you are gonna be poor and ugly at least be a nice person.

R326 every woman in Kit’s proximity ever (the ones the "fans"/haters deem attractive enough anyway). Yet you never see them bring up any guy who meets those criteria, and we all know why.

R327 thats such a stupid argument considering yeah its not the cheapest but its not also outrageously expensive. like i personally do like my pricey skincare & perfumes so like the $200 it costs is not such a big deal to me. Like i know incomes are different all over the world but common like really its not that deep like i dont expect them to go around smelling like walmart cologne

R328 One of the most egregious examples of this was that video of him dancing in Milan. He was literally facing and dancing along with a man, but somehow the girl that was dancing next to him was the person he was dating.

Respect to us all the we all do mainly exactly the opposite. Kit went through a phase of mutually following a number of very attractive women (it largely seemed like work related) and we basically ignored it but he likes a thirst trap of Troye Sivan and we are all over it in minutes. Really appreciate all you messy bitches

R331 In my defense, I really wouldn't go out of my way to ignore something with a girl if there was evidence there, but basically all of the girls had an explainable non-sexual connection (2 were through Asa, one was a mutual with a bunch of his school mates and Sof, some were through fashion things).

We did mention it, though like R332 said they were easily explained. I wish he'd be a bit messy on main, but alas he is not.

I really was saying it as a positive (though to be expected considering the forum) but disregard

Was curious to see if Bash would like a Tobie post if it didn't have a trace of Joe, guess not.

R334 I definitely knew you didn't mean it as a negative, I just overthink it because I worry I'll unwittingly wind up being as biphobic as the fraus.

R331 Yeah, just providing some balance. The night we were rooting for Kit and Omar Apollo to fuck was a good one as well.

R335 I think Tobie is public enemy #2 after Joe for whatever reason

R336 I don’t think it’s biphobic for gay men to be more interested in the guys Kit thirst over or interacts with. If he was obviously dating anyone at all we would discuss it. We are just more personally invested in hot men - no shame in that

R338 agree and yet he basically most consistently likes Bash’s posts. Hilarious

I wouldn’t be surprised if he finds it easier to drop Tobie because he can’t use him for clout.

The fans are canceling Alice for supporting Israel? I don’t she is, she’s just too dumb to realize how dumb she looks for being excited her books are available there.

R342 The tweets being from 2015 and 2018 is sending me.

R342 I actually can’t with that one at the moment. Her hot take about why representation doesn’t matter in queer roles made me furious. I absolutely agree you don’t need to be queer to play a queer role, and the tt that she’s responding to is fucked. However, it’s still important and worth celebrating when it does happen. Straight guys are still playing the majority of the roles, because they’ve had the opportunity to establish their careers. It’s not really for here but I’ve seen a number of the teenage fans making pretty bold, black and white statements about it

R340 I think he probably got as pissy as his 5 stans did about him being excluded from Tobie's post about the people he loves. Tobie was also the one who was visually annoyed with Bash at Pride and it wasn't even us being cunty about it

R342 The quote tweets are fucking dramatic. EDUCATE YOURSELF ALICE

R345 Tobie’s involuntary eyeroll at Pride made me really like him. I hadn’t really cared one way or another before that

This is the video Alice linked, which is... mostly fact based and neutral

I hate to defend her ass, but seriously those fans are dramatic as hell. She didn't say or do anything wrong. Though in general the twitter people who act like what's going on is justified are also equally insane.

I can see why the Joe stans are living in fear he'll post something about it anyway.

Does anyone remember if Tobie followed Bash's finsta from his main account or if it's a finsta to finsta deal? It could go either way because Tobie follows Kit's finsta but not Joe's finsta from his main.

R342 Speaking of the conflict, 0% surprised that Lego is one of those people "wishing for peace" but only ever mentions Israel/throws up the Israeli flag and it's fuck the Palestinians. Laughed at him deleting his Stories about it, though. Can't stand ten toes down when it comes to his position on it.

R347 are they? I seriously doubt he would. They’d be getting advice from everywhere to stay out of this one, surely.

I beg again that we only get into in general term, like the fans talking about it. Lego, for example, has an invested view that might be reflected here on either side.

R348 lmao, didn’t even notice he deleted them..

I also think Tobie is enemy one after Joe, because even though someone argued with me about it, that bit actor Phoenix (sp?) who was in HS for all of two seconds and is best friends with that Kiki clown follows the entire cast except those two, followed Joe and liked his shit until June, and liked Tobie’s posts until July, so clearly an unfollow

Not sure about British celebrities, but the Americans ones are obviously not being told to stay out of it.

R345 So dramatic.

R351 Wild considering that Kit has suffered very little consequences for spending public time with Joe (music fest, same outings as Tobie, World Vogue as almost each others dates)

R354 my theory is the same post that triggered bash Stans (posting the entire cast basically except bash) also triggered bash

R354 I think R341 is right in that it's easier for Bash to drop Tobie than people like Kit and to a lesser extent Will because of clout-chasing reasons. Even with Kit he can't seem to make up his mind and is hot and cold with him. Think he would have cut ties entirely if Kit wasn't as popular as he is.

R344 yeah there’s zero nuance in that conversation right now. If you play Jewish you are evil, if you play gay that’s fine and it’s fucked to imply otherwise. I don’t actually care when straight people play gay, and in the case of RWRB one of them is in fact queer and the director is gay, but the larger point of the TikTok rings true. When no one in the project is of the identity being depicted, it is much more likely to be offensive and geared towards a “majority” audience. I think it’s more important for the writers, directors, things like that to be queer, mostly, but actors can absolutely bring an understanding and depth to roles that comes from lived experience. No one should accuse them of being queerbaiters or insist they declare their sexuality, and what happened to Kit was so fucked, but I won’t deny that I love seeing a gay guy, a bi guy, a trans woman leading HS.

I wish the show would lean more into comedy sometimes. Kit is legitimately good at it and the part where he explains his French dad along with the faces he makes always cracks me up.

R358 agreed. I’ve thought since s1 that Kit had great comedic timing, and while Charlie s1 had no moments of levity at all, I thought joe was so fucking funny in the trials and had great comedic moments in s2. I have high hopes for the I love you scene, because I think they’ll be able to play the silliness and tenderness of the moment in a really heartwarming way

R348 I honestly don't remember. I'd say he did follow him, but I can't be sure. Maybe an old thread has mentioned it but I can't find anything about it one way or the other

Yeah someone definitely did an audit of the finsta’s who followed who at some point. I think it was around the break up but I’m on my phone so difficult to search properly and there is about triple the amount of threads at that time to go through (much to the embarrassment of all of us who wasted posts defending Bash).

Somehow caught myself finding the way he zips up that coat hot.. also I‘m genuinely confused as to how his hair looks that much longer. If I didn’t know better, I‘d think it’s a wig because especially the sides looked so much shorter just a week prior (and that can’t just be down to using more gel)

This scene was hot. I’m not pro Charlie as a top but Nick looked hot as fuck like that.

R363 honestly close to how the bratty bottom joe/service top Kit might look in real life. Their size difference was so insanely hot there

48-hour Instagram update:

Kit was at 6,222,140 on Friday, 6,223,751 now, gained 1,611 followers (boost is down by 125%).

Joe was at 4,273,320 on Friday, 4,273,329 now, gained 9 followers (boost is down by 198%).

It’s super fucking over. Going to switch to an update per week because they’re going to start losing followers in like, a day.

R362 1/2 gel, 1/2 his hair grows insanely fast. He got a haircut before DC pride in June, another haircut a month later before longchamp event in July, possibly another trim pre Sicily, and a last haircut before vogue world. So 3-4 within 3 and a bit months and it still isn’t too short. It must grow insanely fast.

R365 nearly 2000 versus 9 is … joe deserves a lot better than this fandom

R362 I think it’s easy enough to fluff up the sides and his hair grows extremely fast. Seems like he has the same shape at the play as he has on set. His eyebrows also seem to grow in really quick (except the slit) and his stubble isn’t too shabby either. It’s like all of his hair is concentrated neck up and his body remains smooth.

Feel like I might need to caveat that wasn’t a read about his eyebrows. I love his face and think they suit him

R365 shout out to those 9 absolute legends

Bash not archiving any of his Joe couple posts still is doing my head in. I know one of us pops up to whine about it every few weeks but jfc, there are at least two that are a single post of the just the two of them. If he doesn’t want to archive the multi ones fine but the one cozied up with the red lighting, come on now

R371 he's so fucking weird at this point I think he refuses to remove the couple pics because Joe removed everything. Of course, he cleared out his finsta since he can't try to annoy Joe there. And no, I will never get over him not deleting some of those pics.

wtf are these people on… I genuinely just had a laughing fit.

R372 idk if it’s that he “can’t try to annoy joe” so much as “he can’t clout chase”

R374 eh kinda the same thing to me.

R373 bash stans need to be studied by psychiatrists

R372 The only one that bothers me is the birthday post.

I enjoy the breakup ruined his 21st bday post at least though bothers me he's got Joe's mom in a post when he so rudely unfollowed her. A cunt.

R377 really - because their mum’s are in it? You don’t think it’s sort of fucking weird that this one is still up

R379 seeing the Charlie like on that is so bizarre

R379 Honestly he’s the one that looks stupid with all of these posts. I’ve been scrolling down and it’s insane how much their lives were intertwined. R380 Hailey Bieber effect.

Helen must be so relieved she’s not saddled with the Crofts as in laws.

R380 he’s a real weirdo for that

R381 that’s why I enjoy Joe living his best single life rn. getting to work without having to cater to Bash, espresso martinis and going to plays with the gals on the weekends, spending more time with his friends in general, hopefully fucking lots..

R383 Shame he’s probably too wary to be on the apps again. He deserves as much dick as he would like/can handle, and that’s our people’s way

R384 he’s so gorgeous and charming he can bat his eyes in any gay bar and have his pick of men falling over themselves to buy him drinks and try to get with him

R385 sure, but lbr, chatting to someone from the comfort of your couch is a lot easier

R386 didn’t say it wasn’t. Just saying he’s hardly low on options for finding men if he wants, which is good

R387 fair. Just wish the guy had easier options while he’s working but you’re absolutely correct there is always the more analog approach

This is officially coming out on Thursday, no sight of Kit yet.

R389 - he has appeared!

R390 seems basic af tbh, but thats what i was expecting. Is it the same sweater he wore to the shelter

He looks really good, need Jonathan to drop more images.

R391 The color and material are both different.

Another day we've figured something out based on crumbs. Will never not be funny.

He looks great. I’m tempted by the jumper tbh. The feet guys are really winning

R394 i mean yeah if he hadn’t worn that unreleased sweater with a fan we probably would have taken longer to figure it out. im still waiting for the campaign shot with that sweater

Joe and Tobie both liked the post already.

R396 Girl, that's what a crumb is.

another shot dropped. This is where the bianca follow was from iguess

R398 God he really does have a nice face.

i like the second photo with the orange

This gif should t be as hot as it is, if they were written by someone else they’d have had a prom night first time.

R402 more realistic gif would have nick sliding his hand down to squeeze Charlie’s ass, let’s be real

R403 True.

R398 The clothes are a little basic but Kit is hot as hell. I swear I would live on his dick.

Tal literally is so useless he can’t even fully repaint or cover over his old “art” on a Canvas before painting a new one

Bash liked the solo kit photo from Jonathan

R407 angling to get Charlie a Kit meeting I see

R412 he looks so gay in that

R410 love this one

Kit looks great in all of these. The clothes are surprisingly basic (not in the derogatory sense, in the literal sense) for Jonathan Anderson but they look good and he’s a great choice for the campaign

It works both because of his age and because they look like pieces he’d wear in his day-to-day life.

R395 I always think of the one or maybe few poor souls in a since deleted LPSG thread asking why we had so much Kit and especially bash foot content and no joe foot content. Poor things. Joe does not assist with their wank material

The Wasia Project interview for Hunger, not sure if this bit is editorializing by the writer or if Will mentioned them specifically, but:

[quote]And for her older brother, there’s the small balancing act of doing the whole music thing while playing a main role in what might be Netflix’s most beloved and cherished LGBTQIA+ coming-of-age series: Heartstopper. The show isn’t just some side hustle that Gao does alongside his music career, it is what propelled him into global recognition, as part of a cast that is carrying the torch for young, queer storytelling on screen right now. In the series, Gao plays Tao Xu, and he’s close friends with co-stars Yasmin Finney, Joe Locke and Kit Connor.

R417 I tend to think he would’ve mentioned tobie too

Of course Kit has pretty dainty feet.

one thing i noticed is that the collab pieces are already available to buy on Farfetch but JW is not available until thursday. why the wait since some pieces were already available weeks ago

R409 without the overlay.

He looks great in dark washed jeans and joe looks great in light washed ones. Would love to see them in a joint shoot in those

R407 Connor too lol

R423 Connor liked both posts and liked them really fast, which made me laugh.

Those two will like things related to Kit that Joe has nothing to do with it seems. If Joe's there, like Vogue World, that's a skip from them. Same with them liking Alice posts as long as it's not about the show. Petty ass bitches.

R425 I just really wish joe would drop connor. He’s pathetic, a shit friend, poorly aging, and unemployed. Not worth hanging onto

R425 I thought Bash wasn’t liking anything to do with Kit so at least he calmed down.

Here's the first picture without the logo.

R425 Bash skipping that one Alice post that Rhea tagged him in is still low-key one of the funniest things to happen post-breakup. It really hammered in how pathetic he was willing to be about it.

R427 Nothing has changed really. When he got back to London he reposted a random Kit magazine cover didn't he

I legit do think he’s angling to introduce Kit to Charlie both to needle at joe and to impress Charlie and show him he “won his breakup”

R429 It's more a recurring pattern than anything. Bash is fine with Kit, Kit does something with Joe, Bash stops liking Kit stuff, Bash eventually gets over it and starts liking Kit stuff again, rinse and repeat.

Or Charlie wants to meet Kit.

R432 oh I’m sure he does but I’m equally sure it’s at least partly bash claiming he won the breakup, all his friends hate joe, he’s closer to their mutuals, shit like that

R431 I love how Kit doesn’t give a fuck what Bash does online. He probably doesn’t even notice.

R432 A shame that meeting Seabiscuit wasn't enough for him.

Charlie prob wants to meet Joe too, he did used to like pics of him and Bash

R436 I’m not sure about that

R437 It's a joke.

meanwhile Kit skipped liking Bash's last post as one of the only people pf the cast (though he did like another one posted around the same time that featured Bash)

R436 highly doubt it… even back then, he only followed Bash

R439 It's in line to what I think that dynamic is now, at least from Kit's side. He doesn't hate Bash and doesn't have any problem liking posts that he's in, but he's not as invested in that friendship as he was before when he'd like all of his posts and comment pretty frequently. Tangentially, it cracks me up that Joe has absolutely no problem liking posts that Bash is in, even liking Connor's Finland dump, while Bash seems to still not be over the breakup enough to do so and Bash is the one with a new boyfriend.

R440 It’s even funnier when you remember that Bash can’t bring himself to like those posts while still having Joe all over his Instagram account.

R440 agreed on the dynamic. I doubt Joe did anything to be “strategic” — he may be extremely professional, intelligent, and mature, but he was still 19 after a breakup — but I think the way he handled it ended up playing out well for him. All their true mutuals minus rhea are far closer to him, he’s been the one making it easy on Netflix, Alice, Patrick, et cetera to continue being nice to both, he’s not even distant from people like Connor who are being pieces of shit to him. Looks better to fans and more importantly really much more appealing to their mutual friends. Hard to care about bash drifting or being mad at you when the reason is solely that you’re close to his ex, who is being a much bigger person

He'll like something with the back of Joe's head one day in a couple years and his three stans (two have since moved on) will celebrate his maturity while shading Joe

R443 “our sunshine boy modeling queer excellence and maturity 🥺🏳️‍⚧️❤️🏳️‍🌈 even after he’s been so hurt he is capable of seeing the best in others and being a light to this world 🥺”

They really think Joe was the one who wanted to keep the relationship private. I think both of them were pretty public, they just never announced it.

Someone trying to convince us in that CC that next to normal was worse than 4000 miles

Bash having Charlie wear a cheap beaded bracelet with his name on it. Give me a break.

That curiouscat is a breeding ground for future lonely fraus

[quote]Hypothetically speaking but Bash can be nominated for an Children's Emmy 2024 for his lead role in HTDBW, can't he?

I'm sorry to use an acronym here, but LMAOOOOOOOOO.

[quote]theres so much talk about n2n making it over to the west end but none rumors about 400 miles and i dont get it??? 4000miles did have maybe 2 not so raving reviews but n2n got trashed by guardian and others so its only the factor one play was sold out and the other was not? is that so much more important than quality?

So strange that demand is a huge factor in determining if producers are going to pump more money into a show by transferring it.

R447 They are current lonely fraus. For some reason Bash fans seem to skew older. The bracelet thing kinda cracks me up since Bash wore Joe's fan bracelet.

“Maybe two not so raving reviews” “N2N got trashed by guardian” …Guardian gave both three stars, morons. Them spinning that as N2N being trashed while 4000 miles got raves is so damn funny. And actual celebrities went to and praised N2N. Even the elderly who attended 4000 miles didn’t hype it

Also all three of the guardians stars for 4000 miles were all about Eileen. Bash was not overly praised. Quote: “ Atkins is wonderful as the nonagenarian with no filter – her irritability accompanied by exquisite flicks of the wrist, her tenderness emerging through gestures rather than speeches. Croft conveys the stalling effects of trauma beneath Leo’s snappy chatter but there is an emotional distance and increasing heaviness in the production“. Meanwhile, for next to normal, “ The performances are superb in this tale of a family dealing with bipolar disorder”

Did Joe say anything about 400 Miles when he went?

Why do they even care about Next to Normal? Because Joe loved it?

And yeah, I posted reviews and just skipped the negative ones. I mean there was one review for 4000 Miles that said maybe it wouldn't suck with Timmy in it. The acting wasn't even that praised for 4000 Miles while Next to Normal got praised for acting and got some dings for a thin storyline. Also Next to Normal got reviewed by the New York Times, it's just a bigger deal than the local community theatre show that was 4000 Miles.

R451 Nope

R451 joe didn’t, Kit didn’t, tobie didn’t, Will didn’t. Hard life.

And as a side note the ability of bash Stans to justify everything is crazy. Put aside the whole joe situation. Even put aside his shitty apology for JKR. The excusal of the bad behavior that waiter called out, saying the schoolmate who said he’s a dick must have been confused because bash was by his own account bullied at school, and now actual artists saying not paying people for their work is shitty and her going “ITS FOR CHARITY”. Girl, they’re writing off some portion of the money they raise through this charity on their taxes, and they get a PR item from it. The artist gets what — no money and “creds” on an IG with 15K followers?

R452 It's definitely because of Joe, N2N hasn't even announced a transfer yet but it's crickets about every other production that's going to transfer.

Meanwhile, I would pop in to post the negative ones. Will never make me laugh that my instincts were right about Bash.

R454 you were a prophet

R454 You cunt (lovingly) I was working overtime with damage control with those reviews. The Croft family should have paid me.

R456 no can do, they’re bankrolling an unemployed daughter with a manor house, an underemployed actor son with a taste for expensive clothes, whatever dark haired twink he decides is his true love, and trusty unemployed bff Connor.

The campaign flopping a bit online but the pictures are very basic so I don’t think it’s because of Kit.

yeah its basic so i fully expected this to happen. plus it doesn’t help that he looks weirdly photoshopped in some of the shots

Pictures are doing okay on the KCI account, but they need to release actual HQ images of the campaign and to have Kit post properly on his grid.

Kit and Cormac just followed this guy, assuming he's playing a rugby player or something.

R460 Hoping Kit doesn’t have to post them on his grid. No shade.

R461 He looks hot!

R461 Riise follows him too

Kit posted the campaign! Will liked it in record time

Wish he'd used one of the lesser-disseminated images, like the scarf picture or the one of him in the leather jacket.

Not Joe commenting about his feet.

So Joe is one of the feet guy. Good for him

Joe not liking but commenting is becoming a thing, I see

[quote]Kit, your Israeli fans need your support right now 🙏🏻🇮🇱

These kind of comments are so embarrassing.

R469 Is that only happening with Kit’s posts or is it a thing in general?

R467 he’s such a troll. I love him

Just noticed it on the last two Kit posts and on Tobie's S2 dump

R471 he does if a lot, shares or comments on peoples posts but doesn’t like

He's done it for awhile, but didn't used to do it for friends. He did it for Tobie too, who knows why

R473 Damn, not Joe doing his besties dirty like that.

Giles Hattersley commented "✨" on Kit's post, hopefully that means Kit'll have someone in his corner under the new British Vogue leadership.

Joe is very random with his social media. No use trying to decipher his actions. Nice for Kit but I don't think this post will hit 1M likes.

It’ll hit 1 million, probably not 2 million though.

R476 I noticed a while back that the new Head liked one of the posts of his BV feature, so she’s aware of him at least.

I would be surprised if it doesn't hit a million likes given that it's at a quarter million in under an hour.

Omar getting destroyed by the quote tweets. I really need Joe and Kit to not say or repost anything.

It's at 241k in 45 minutes, it'll hit 1 million, probably closer to 1.5 million.

Did seem to flop with fans a bit, crunchy frau and fake lesbian barely got any interest in them and have resorted to making fun of his shoes

R480 I laughed out loud at this one.

R480 not only omar but the writer of yr is getting ate up too. like yeah dont say anything

Quick Lego comment because I can’t help it. He’s always posted quite a lot but that man is posting at the rate of someone newly single. Also the captions tone has shifted. I know I’m about to get piled on by the nothings-changed guys but I think there has been an official end. Still maintain Joe’s bullying comment and Tal’s response hit different too

She can have a foot fetish and bully her friends all she wants but I don’t think Joe is doing that.

Re British vogue, think joe, Kit, will, and Yaz will be fine there. Great engagement, young, very critically acclaimed with diverse projects for their age, all look great in fashion and seem actually interested in it, and diverse (just being cynical).

R484 I can see something like Joe going “haha hey so when you said special friend you meant FWB right?”

R483 All of these comments are so insincere coming from celebrities that have never said shit before about a conflict that been going on for decades. It's posturing.

R484 Yeah, to me he's moving like someone looking for something new. I'm guessing Joe told Lego that he's not going to be available much now that he's back to work and he doesn't want a commitment so Lego needs to go look somewhere else.

R485

[quote](because that’s what I would have done to my friends)

Except Joe seems to have a personality that doesn't make me want to bang my head through drywall the way Crunchy Hag does.

R484 also remains that Joe likes less of his posts.. the last two reels and last grid post didn’t get a like from him. back when he used to like every fucking single post I definitely got the feeling he was trying to make a point a bit, so agreed on the tone shift, but don’t know to what extent. I don’t think it just comes down to being busier now because he‘s active enough to like other stuff

R487 I mean I think when he liked every single thing he was legit bored and at home. Agreed he had his post notifications on but he also liked basically everything from the cast and commented quickly, was commenting on TikToks, stuff like that. Think he’s always seen this as dating in the sense of “we fuck and also go on dates”, not in the sense of “we are working towards a relationship”. Hope he has a fun time fucking hotter men who eat his out and throw him around all night and fix him brunch and an oat milk latte In the morning

R486 it was the comment about the receding hairline in a recent story that sold it for me. You’re definitely wanting guys to slide into your dms to tell you that your hair is great (it’s not) and you’re hot (also no). Obvious way to start a chat. Goodbye to our greasy, wobbly handed, Z list adjacent rebound guy - we knew too much about you

R488 idk, there were a lot of cast posts (non main cast) that he didn’t like during the time and personally, I interpreted him liking every post of just Lego’s mid tattoo work as more than just boredom related, but hard agree on that last part.

R484 it didn't hit any different for me since that's the second time joes made an eye comment and why the hell would he passive aggressively comment anyway if they just had some blow out. Makes no sense. I think it was casual then and is casual now.

R490 I should be a bit more brutal: from his good friends in the cast. He was on everything Kit, tobie, or Will posted, and even just posts from magazine etc about them, with a quickness. But I maintain nothing except our own DL melodrama pointed towards them ever being a relationship, I think it’s just more joe being more open and relaxed about his life including people he’s casually seeing. He took him to the after party of one event and posted his birthday on his IG stories. He also started making less PG jokes (faggot and the threesome jokes), showed his little sister and childhood friends he used to completely keep off the grid the same summer. And on the flip side they also spent their actual birthdays apart, we saw joe out with the other HS guys all the time without him, they took separate vacations, stuff like that

R491 I don’t think he was being a cunt it just wasn’t as warm as pearly whites or ur braids are pretty but i know not everyone agreed

R493 I can agree though don't think there is any drama at all.

R492 I mean, I also don’t believe it was a full fleshed relationship… just think there has been a shift of some sort

R495 I mean I think either way there’s the same end result, which is rn they are nothing more than hooking up/FWB at most. If you think they were more at some point, I disagree but that’s fine, we just have different opinions

R494 for sure no drama, just Lego is more bored and (my read) more officially on the market again. I never thought they were boyfriends (Jesus, I sound like the fucking show) but they seemed like they were, if not exclusive, not actively dating others.

I’m hoping for the slow slide into just the odd like and a reveal of a new Joe conquest, to keep him warm, over the winter holidays

R497 better yet no odd like and reveal because the man keeping him warm is Kit. Yes I know it isn’t going to happen but a boy can dream.

R496 I think they might have been more at one point in terms of exclusivity.. but other than that I agree, and genuinely am fine with agreeing to disagree, just partaking in the conversation..

Also, tbc, very fucking happy to never mention Lego again. I just wanted to throw that observation out there and unless he posts Joe again I’ll happily let him fade out of relevance. If it wasn’t so funny I’d almost feel bad for those few HS fans that let him tattoo them. When will they learn not to go all in on the relationships of very young queer men.

R497 If it ever happens I‘m sure DLers will be the first to be on to it

I can get behind thinking a tone shift, though also don't wanna completely call it as done and look like an idiot if I'm proven wrong. I called Joe and Bash having problems in March since Bash would rather be 13 hours ahead of ATL hanging with monks than his boyfriend, but didn't see it for Bash and Charlie, so I'm 1/1. Don't need to ruin my record further.

What date did Joe follow Lego? I have thoughts but am not sure if the timeline of my thoughts is accurate.

R503 June 21

R502 being proven wrong is not being an idiot it’s the inevitable outcome of gossip. Part of the cohort who got dog piled for saying Kit and Maia had cooled off around Christmas time but have made other bad calls. Full respect to you for the shit you copped for suggesting Joe and Bash were anything other than perfect

R503 just before PFW I think

R503 Late June, like the 21st or 22nd, right before he went to Paris for fashion week. Remember Joe fans trying to say a shadow was a new tattoo.

R506 the person who insisted that is also the dumb teenager who made a whole tiktok airing the breakup and implying joe cheated so not exactly the brightest

R507 Yeah, remember her reaction to unemployed sister unfollowing was asking what Joe did

So from Joe's current track record, he's someone that continues to interact with flings and boyfriends if it doesn't end terribly. He was still liking Bash's posts after they broke up (but before Bash went nuclear), he still likes some of OF Nick's posts, and he left an arguably flirty troll comment on OF Nick's post when he was back in the UK and their thing was already over. He also still likes OF Nick's comments on his posts.

R509 The only thing he liked of Bash was about his flop movie I'm pretty sure, but fair point. I think that like was trying to be nice before they saw each other again, which didn't work.

From Sorcha's Instagram.

Never realized someone asked OF Nick are y’all friends?” After joe commented and he replied “yeah”

R511 god. Why must Alice infantalize the characters this way

R510 Based on that post, the fact that he hasn't purged the unwashed, and the fact that he has no problem liking posts Bash is in, I really do think he would have continued to be chill and like some of Bash's posts post-breakup if Bash hadn't lost it.

R511 Why. And in some interviews HS cast kind of shaded other shows for hiring actors too old for teen roles, but Joe and Kit are gonna start looking ridiculous at some point with their hot grown selves and insane chemistry playing teenagers who act like children who don't know how to make a hickey

R514 I think he would have been fine with it. He's been overly nice about the whole thing.

Kit's post is kinda flopping (for him). Will still hit a million though.

R513 wonder what scenes that could be for (if it‘s even HS related).. I think the only party that happens in the comics is NYE

Even hitting a million is still kind of batshit given that he posted the picture to his grid 9 hours after he had already posted it to his Stories.

R515 This Nick and Charlie with carnival face paint. Laughable.

R514 He liked that movie post before the London pride. Based on his reaction to the sight of Bash, I don’t think he was chill and completely fine. Probably just wanted to cool things before having to see each other.

R516 Even Kit’s star power can’t save that collection. No shade to Jonathan because I quite like a lot of his pieces but this collection is clearly a cash grab and lack creative direction.

R519 I was just about to link those. Love when the fandom is actually being useful

This tweet and that whole account being about Lego is sending me

R520 I mean, we now know they were all together before we saw them at pride getting makeup done and photos. so we saw him at pride after bash had already been ignoring him and trying to grab other cast mates attention for hours, I presume. I think he probably liked the idea of them being friends or st least friendly even if it was still a bit hard, but bash being a cunt ruined it.

Looks like Connor is back in the UK, a fan got a picture with Bash today and he's wearing the same shirt that he's wearing in that Story that Bash posted of the two of them so it's not an old picture. Dude really doesn't have a job.

R523 child giving us a run for our money even on our most dramatic days.

R525 a fan wanted a photo with Bash? Bash stans really winning this week

R525 I absolutely envision bash trying to have and post a dinner with Connor, Kit, and Charlie

R527 I hope they don't get too excited, it was a celebrity stalker (the picture is in her Stories but take a look at her account).

R529 I‘m surprised the Kit pictures in her HS highlight haven’t made it to twt yet

R530 I remember seeing them, I think she was the first fan to post pictures with him at that JWA show.

R529 another Frau who loves Kit and pretends Joe doesn’t exist, what a delight she seems

R529 ah, one of the “what a coincidence!” crowd

R528 Kit's got an excuse of being too busy filming and being employed.

And Charlie didn't get a Dan Levy follow from that dinner. Sam will be happy about that at least.

R532 also loved Paul in All of Us Strangers but didn’t mention Andrew, even though the critics are loving both and he’s the protagonist (I wonder what the correlation is there, hmm)

I find it funny when people call out Kit stans for being... kit stans lol

R536 I mean fair overall but honestly it does hit different to me when it’s straight girls who claim to love the whole cast, sorry. If it was a gay guy thirstier for Kit than joe who didn’t pretend to be a Stan for everyone, I honestly don’t think it would annoy me.

Ah the person who thinks every joe Stan is oversensitive is defending straight girl Kit stans. Funny coincidence!

R536 Sorry straight girl who loves Kit with a charlie pfp (not this girl, but many of them on twitter) is a red flag. Fuck defending that

R536 pretty rich from the person who's always calling out Joe stans for being... Joe stans lol

hot addition

Poor Omar issuing a public apology lmao

R541 the way Kit lifts him up is so hot, strong as fuck. Also joe laughing into the kisses is so fucking cute.

R543 it's good choice from Joe, like Kit often whispering when they're flirting. The little details kill me

R524 Omar is another one that just needs to jump off twitter. Their fans are also crazy and he's not considered enough

Emma corrin didn’t follow bash or Charlie. To be fair not sure how long they hung out, seems like Emma wasn’t at the club with them after. Also Harry lambert posting on his stories that he’ll be eating Cheesecake Factory on holiday for two weeks… I mean, thanks for the content warning love

R543 Not to mention the heavy breathing when they’re kissing against the door.

R544 I hate them. They're so good at the romantic, light stuff and then are just as good in a serious, gut-wrenching scene.

R546 Love this, especially since they do follow Joe and Kit.

I know joe knows what he’s doing, I’m not aware of the whole situation, blah blah but if Connor doesn’t even try to meet up with him while in the UK this time I really hope Joe stops trying with him

Also i know others have mentioned bash will definitely try to get and post a Kit, Charlie, himself and Connor meetup and I agree. But while that’s tbd, I think an Alice one is close to certain

R549 I might be wrong, but can't see Kit allowing that shit.

R550 really? He's a softy. I think he'd roll with it.

R549 I can see that happening - at the very least it wouldn’t surprise me, but Bash still hasn’t liked Kit‘s post.. sure, social media interaction isn’t everything and he could still like it anyway, but doesn’t seem to me like he’s making a major effort lately. Definitely agree that he‘d agree if his schedule allows it and Bash asked

R549 Well, yes. If Kit is still close with Bash, this will mostly happen at Bash’s birthday party.

Lego really does have shit for brains, he followed Richard Kemp on Instagram. Don't think the Trump Jr. follow is an outlier anymore. Can't wait until he's fully in the rearview mirror once Joe stops engaging entirely.

As the person who posted r549, I can see kit doing it but I think he’d absolutely have the decency to run it by Joe first and let him know and it would be no problem at all for him to do so. Joe has been the bigger person to a saintlike extent in all the breakup and I think is also very confident for good reason in his friendship with Kit and wouldn’t ask him not to or have an expectation he not go. (Bash can’t relate).

What I do hope, regardless of kit meeting up with them or not, is that Joe stops trying with Connor. He’s made multiple occasions to meet up with bash’s new twink, comments on all his shit, has done multiple trips with bash since the breakup. Meanwhile in a photodump including pics from Atlanta he ignored Joe despite Joe getting him VIP tickets, ignored joes comments to him, didn’t even wish him happy birthday on a post he was tagged on, and ignored joes posts after the breakup until bash posted him on his stories (he then liked them days later immediately after the bash post). He’s just a dick and a shit friend

R554 can’t imagine they talked about politics much because wow

R561 Could see him meeting with Bash, but not being all right with splashing it all over social media right now.

R554 Both him and his brother followed him.

And randomly, of the people I follow who have said something about the current situation the only one who wasn't an idiot was Nell's boyfriend. Guess that group has one person who isn't dumb.

R554 I mean you’re not wrong but I’m anticipating that the lurkers we know perch on here and have used info this site has found, like the pink news thing, to shit on Joe, Will once more use this to shit on him. Not trying to be a dick to you specifically but there are things I think we can and should think about before posting because they’re used to tear down the cast. I agreed with the people who found kits finsta followed some girl and refused to post her because it would only lead to assholes online insisting they’re fucking and being dicks. When it comes to stuff like this, because we know from precedent that Joe is inexplicably held accountable for the Twitter or IG follows and likes and activity of everyone he fucks, maybe we can not post it.

R558 I mean fair but it’s fucked, Joe isn’t accountable for who the dickhead he may or may not be seeing follows. There is bunch of shit I haven’t mentioned here for that reason. It’s fucking infuriating how much we can’t actually gossip on a gossip site.

R559 I agree and that’s why I’m not trying to come at you specifically, it’s just one more way that surprise, a 30 year old creep who was fucking and tried to clout chase from a teenager sucks! But the fandom has a remarkable ability to turn everything anyone Joe has ever met has done into joes fault and a “kit/will/Yaz my big three would never” moment

I went to vote on the TV Choice longlist before voting closes and was met with this little note at the very last page. Well, that was pointless.

R560 The person at R559 isn't me, but I definitely get your point.

R562 oh sorry my bad

On a lighter note I will continue my agenda of pointing out that the comic fans sulkiness over nick not always being little spoon is ridiculous. I don’t mind the way it is in the first pic but you cannot convin e me the last pic is a more natural or comfortable way to sleep than the second pic would be. Joe is tiny and cute and made to be held, accept it

You should eat the dog shit out in my yard

R563 They want Charlie to suffocate and die

The way this tweet could be about either of them because they sell the shit out of even this small moment. Such insanely gifted actors, such incredible chemistry

R565 then he can be with imogen, another bi icon who is ~sassy~ and whose tits could support him where Charlie’s weak frail chest wouldn’t

Shitstomper

R566 if I ever link the tweet I’m referencing it’ll be a miracle. This one

R567 Kit would quit the show.

R560 didn't leave the original comment, just the whinge about not being able to gossip, but I get you. The fan's outrage is exhausting

Are the crofts paying for Connor to me bashs carer or something? Also I get lovebombing is his thing but it is weird he and Charlie have literally never spent time alone. Met at charlies parents house in France with his friends and brother, brought him to Finland with bash’s brother and the unemployed, now staying with the Crofts in London and Connor came too.

R572 That seems like Bash's thing. Joe and him barely spent any time alone from the looks at it. When they were a new couple, Connor was there. When they went to fashion week, Connor was there, but they went home alone. Or when they went to Atlanta but they ended up breaking up. Even the freaking DM pics his parents, his brother and Connor were there too.

Bash dates like he's 16. Never forget the LPSG guy who would often see them on dates with Bash's mother.

Kinda wonder if that contributed to the breakup, espeically after Joe lived alone with 6 months

R573 honestly I wondered that too, even if joe was overall fine with it, putting aside the “we are never alone” thing, even the fact that joe always travelled more for bash than vice versa, that all their travel and social plans were with bash’s friends and bash’s family, and that joe has said he’s quite introverted with a limited social battery, I can see how after 6 months solo the prospect of that continuing was not appealing

R573 Didn't Bash also bring his parents along when he would pick up Joe from The Trials? Dude seems kind of Norman Bates-y, and I'm saying this as someone who is close to his family.

R575 yes and they went to brunch with bash and joe for joes birthday

R575 There's a video of the parents and Bash picking up Joe yeah. Seemed nice at the time, but not sure I'd be into it after awhile. Just personally would much rather my boyfriend pick me up and go out together than hang with the parents on a double date.

R573 It’d be weird if Joe and Bash were in their mid 20s but 17-19 is still very young to be alone completely with your boyfriend all the time.

R578 all the time=/=any of the time. Them living with bash’s parents is normal. Them going on dates with bash’s mother in tow a lot is weird

Kit whispering why are we like this. Cute.

R578 They were 18/20 or 19/21. I get when Joe was 17, but not last summer. They can go on dates around London by themselves.

And I don't think at that age it's weird to be alone outside of the house with your boyfriend, but ymmv. And considering Bash is nearly 22 and Charlie is 21, not sure age is the reason.

R580 absolutely them making fun of that idiotic line.

These bitches are so crazy and so funny

Also from that cc. I admit I’m biased as I don’t like bash. But the fan he got a pic with today said she waved at them from far away and bash approached her to talk to her. They’re all dying over how sweet and loving he is. I think it’s low key odd to go that out of your way instead of just waving back and suspect he wanted to impress Charlie the exactly one time he was recognized by anyone

R583 I'm gonna bet you will see Charlie in London more than you see Bash in LA. I need it to happen for my speculation that he wants guys to follow him around and not the other way around anyway

R584 A bit funny since the girl is just a professional celeb photo seeker, but yet didn't actually go up to him despite that, though this might be reaching bitch eating crackers level of dislike for Bash

R584 tbh I’ve always thought the over enthusiastic Bash and fans thing was fucking weird but I kept it to myself. Kit seems to be mostly taken unawares (it often looks like he’s been interrupted with headphones in) but happy. Joe clearly avoids it where he can but is very sweet when caught. I mean, everyone has their own style but Bash always seemed a bit thirsty to me

R586 yeah joe seems to be more willing to go “out of his way” for younger fans. As you said always incredibly sweet but I can see him affirmatively stopping for a young fan who waved at him while he would more likely wave back and smile and keep it moving for an adult. Kit always has his headphones in but is also extremely nice when spotted. Bash seems to love it.

R585 Charlie in London is two birds one stone. Bash gets the adoring twink following him around, Charlie gets to hang out with “celebrity” friends if you want to call it that (glorified extras from stranger things and a character on a Netflix show that ended in 2021).

Well, Bash stans were right when they said DL is obsessed with Bash.

R589 lmao you’re so fucking whiny. Introduce some other content then

R589 Only when we are bored. Everyone forgot he existed when we were getting daily Joe and Kit on the beach

And seriously, talk about something else or don't bump the thread to whine

It’s also funny because from a quick look most of the participants in the most recent bash discussion have posted multiple other things today. Clips of joe and Kit in the show, discussions of their acting skill, talking about kits APC collab, stuff like that. Tantruming because people like joe, or discuss bash, or think rhea sucks is dull. it’s not like Kit hard launched a boyfriend and we’re discussing bash, it’s a low content day and we’re joking about his weirdo family and fame whoring.

R589

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I need you to remember the site you're posting on. If you're overly sensitive about Bash getting his wig tugged on occasion, fuck off to LPSG or something.

R593 I know what DL is. I also know the same 5 insults about Bash are getting old. Some of you talk more about him than his stans.

R594 u right comments like “Kit has dainty feet” and “I know this guy in tals reel isn’t joe but he looks like Joe but he isn’t” are much more exciting and add a great deal to the conversation

I’m too lazy to check, is the person whining now the same person that always whines? And are they also the same person who was ready to marry Lego and Joe off? And who gets in their feelings whenever someone implies that Joe might be Kit’s type?

R595 If you wanna jerk off to how much you hate Bash, be my guess, but at least bring some new material or something.

R594 Hate to do a post history check, but it's not like you haven't mentioned him. Do you get off on causing a fight at least twice a day. Just wondering

Anyway this thumbnail amused me

R596 Yes to all of the above.

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