Stop Picking up strays from the street

I’m sorry not to blame the victim but what was a near 40-year-old semi-public figure doing “in a relationship” with a teenager? That’s red flag #1

He was deeply disturbed, and I’m certain his reckless behavior led to this. He was certainly no Angel, but if you play with fire…

Meth is a hell of a drug.

If he was asexual and living in the suburbs, this would’ve never have happened.

But the cock was soooo big ...

Wow, poor dead guy was quite handsome. I guess we all get desperate and foolish sometimes. That's really sad.

A LOT of older guys who go to AA in WeHo invite young guys who have no place to go and announce they need a place in a meeting. The younger guys always eventually get high with the older guy. During this, the older guy winds up really ducked up. Missing money, stolen from, sometimes the older guy winds up naked on Santa Monica after too much speed. This is COMMON. I’m actually surprised more aren’t actually killed inviting desperate strangers in.

The pic of the gay guy is an old pic. He was just meh looking in recent pics, and by the way, fat.

As someone on one of the three other threads on this topic said, a former alcoholic/drug addict who has experienced homelessness multiple times should not be mentoring anybody.

Just because some random cop says it was a relationship, doesn't make it so.

It's just as likely he was trying - foolish though it may have been - to help this guy.

There was this guy in my AA group who was homeless. He would talk up people after the meeting and then ask them if he could crash on their sofa for a couple of days. He was good looking but he had serious BO and had missing teeth. He couch surfed for a while until the last guy who took him in discovered that the guy had run up his landline phone bill into the hundreds…calling his family as well as phone sex lines. I forget what happened but the freeloader stopped coming to the meetings.

[quote]a former alcoholic/drug addict who has experienced homelessness multiple times should not be mentoring anybody.

Who better to mentor people with problems than those who've conquered the same problems?

Just don’t invite them to stay over OR give them money.

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Call Me By Your Name!

R16 Call be My Your Name in the Moonlight of Compton while being a Menace to Brokeback Society

I agree. Be careful.

this is super sad. He was a very kind-hearted soul and didn't deserve this

R13 thinks Brittney Spears conservatorship was an abomination and should never have been allowed to happen.

The 19 year old isn't much to look at. Plus there's the propensity for killing people. Hard pass.

R19. You must be drinking the kool-aid. He was a bit of a fresh loudmouth, and we all predicted years ago his smartass remarks would get him in trouble….and here we are. The media says he was “helping” this guy. Helping him light his pipe? Helping him find a place to put his penis?

Wake up people, this ain’t nothin’ new. As others have stated, we’ve seen this film before.

You know it seems like it’s been a season of do good white liberals being slain in their gentrified neighborhoods. This reminds me. People often criticize blacks for not helping their own. This is why. You can’t fix trash.

Don’t care white cunts. I’m black. Love all. God bless.

If my trick is going to kill me, I want him looking like Max Caufield in The Boys Next Door.

Maybe I could sweet talk him into fucking me to death.

The author is a cunt, and you know it.

She refers to the killer as a "teenager," even though 19 is legally adult-age and she's leaning on semantics to call the victim pedo-adjacent.

R22

You have inside information?

He was shot by this guy because he made smart ass remarks?

R25 Your right. That pisses me off too.

I said it was rough trade from the start and got told off by a Mary.

Whatever you do, do not become a day care provider. It’s not worth your life.

From r18's article "Tried to Kill Gay Man on Dating App"

How do you kill someone on a dating app?

My mother has this same problem. Mostly it's stray cats, but she also picks up loser men and brings them into her home. They would steal, or beat us, or throw wicked parties in our home. She still thinks this is what love is - giving yourself to a parasite until there's nothing left, because you have it and they want it!

r31 She damaged you so much you can't take part in a conversation and have to make everything about yourself?

R26 that’s what I was wondering. Did Josh have a smart mouth or something?

R26 He had a very smart, fresh, mouth, and I don’t know if that got him killed, I wasn’t there. He was also a drug addict. I don’t have those issues, but I knew him well enough to steer clear. He was ALWAYS a loudmouth, and put a friend thru HELL with his non stop DRAMA.

I don’t care for your tone, either, cunt.

“Gimme money !” “No!” Pow! End scene

I think part of the appeal for a white person to date a black man is the sexual thrill of knowing they might be murdered.

R36. Your racism is showing. You really are sick.

R37 Blah blah blah

Did he take him in or was he taking advantage?

R37. That’s what your dad said when my cock was down his throat

r34 seek help

r22 has never met the victim

Any age ending in "teen" is a "teenager." Simple denotation. Moreover, "19" is not "21," the RL "adult" connotation.

Victim was HIV+. Maybe the killer-roughtrade-mentee-pal had just found out and freaked out.

R42. As I stated, I knew him well enough to steer clear. He made my friends life a living hell. Can’t you read?

friend's life or friends' lives?

[quote] I’m sorry not to blame the victim but what was a near 40-year-old semi-public figure doing “in a relationship” with a teenager? That’s red flag #1

Was it the lure of rough trade young BBC.

R45. One friend’s LIFE. Oops! I’m not perfect. OR AM I???

He got Nicole Simpson'd

R36 There aren’t enough burning grease fires for your wretched ass. Go find one that will host you. Find a grease fire that is oily enough bitch. Find it please.

Perhaps it was self defense. Self indulgent aging twinks can rarely handle their meth.

R48 Yo stankin ass needs to help r36 find that grease fire. Why the fuck won’t you help him. We are tired of your smells. Please be fair.

R44 Either say what the fuck he did or take you troll ass elsewhere. Stop playing coy you classless bitch. What misdeed makes one deserve murder as punishment.

Explain that shit bitch. Explain it. Why won’t you explain the argument. You fkin cunt.

A gay man had a tragic ending with this monster.

R53. He was an active meth user who caused a lot of drama. No one said he deserved to die. Are you fucking mental? Go eat shit, MARY

[quote]The pic of the gay guy is an old pic. He was just meh looking in recent pics, and by the way, fat.

He was FAT? Well, then, he had nothing to live for anyway.

Never hook up with someone with a Rasputin beard like R54 / Mark Latunski.

It’s always blacks, R17!

R55 No bitch. Take that shit and fuel that grease fire. You know exactly what you were trying to imply. And you are clearly lying you sad troll. Don’t lie again bitch.1st warning.

Teacake needs to commit sewerside

Lol r60. You sad pathetic cunt. Go get a life. Bitch.

You get a motherfucking life you drugged up cunt!

Teacake, are you that broke-down horse-hung young penniless loon who lives in New Jersey and goes to law school, runs a hedge fund, and is writing an opera?

∆ Hey, WEHT to that guy? The one with the Irish traveller BF. I liked him.

Teacake, go fuck yourself. Don’t threaten me you blob of cowcrap

My bussy only gets misty for thug trade.

With homelessness sky rocketing even straight identifying young dudes will suck eldergays for a roof over their head on a cold nite. Don't invite Death into your home Gramps.

R63 No bitch. I’m writing screenplays. You basic hoes in these streets writing operas. I’m writing future motion pictures. Get on my level. Get there ho. Use that grease from them hoes I told to jump in grease fires and fuel the spaceship to get you here.

I wonder if this young man was a sex worker? You know it’s easy to jump to conclusions but let’s remember there was a whole white bitch drugging and raping young black men in Los Angeles. He was a political donor with numerous pics with Hillary Clinton. I just want to know all the facts. I don’t know if this guy was a predator but let’s get all the facts and let’s not assume this was a lovers quarrel or petty robbery. RIP to the deceased.

At least Momma knows the difference between toothsome cagemeat and loathsome street trash.

She wouldn't even have opened her trailer door or twitched her caftan at this thing.

Yes r69 there’s possibly more to this story than we know at present…

Sure...screenplays

It's hard to feel sorry for men who end up the victim of these mentoring situations knowing they would never put in effort to help an old, ugly disabled person.

When you only mentor the "fuckable", your shallowness can cost you your life.

R73 nice victim blaming.

R72 Don’t be mad hoe. Find where the spaceship is launching.

If I go down going down, I’ll die happy.

I'm an eldergay in SAA and I have to fight the urge to befriend, mentor, interact etc with a lot of these younger guys - gay, straight, fluid etc. This is especially those that are also in AA or NA. I have to remind myself that all I really want from them is sex and I don't want the after life embarrassment for me or my family of dying like this. What really stops me though is thinking how you guys would grill me in a thread like this!

That’s funny r77, and fearlessly honest.

R77 is demented.

r77 is telling the truth. Straight men have these kinds of relationships with younger women, marry them and start families, and no one cares.

Can a hookup be defined as a “relationship”?

Shot seven times?

Lots of anger there.

I hope that kid’s big black cock was worth it.

The killer shot up a subway platform last month.

Based on forensic psychology principles…7 times shot indicates intent to kill, certainly. I would need more information about their relationship to know if it was really personal, though. (Shooting is a relatively impersonal method of murder, in and of itself.)

Why did the police officer say they had a relationship? Had they been seen together before? Who knew them? The perp was described as “homeless”. Had he stayed with this guy before? What was the financial exchange? The reports are very vague.

Damn, this reminds me of a very old episode of The First 48, where a 50 year old COGIC pastor was bludgeoned to death in his own home.

Pastor was always picking up homeless men and bringing them into his apartment for "spiritual guidance."

The murderer was a 29 year old man who claimed to have been freaked out when the pastor made sexual advances towards him.

Let us not forget . . .

Mmmm, gay panic, R86. Is that still a defense against murder charges?

If that doesn't work, r88, blame it on Twinkies.

Is it true Josh Kruger came from a very wealthy family? That is what is circulating out there— he comes from some very rich and powerful family that he was somewhat estranged from.

R19 agreed, I hate when things like this happen because it makes racist right wingers and DL folks, not right wingers but racist democrats, say I told you so.

R88, Who said it was a defense?

Btw I am such a lunatic when I’m coming down off my high. Apologies all. Actually I don’t apologize because I was being quite comical towards the racists and victim blamers. But I just seem unhinged lol. The sex is great on drugs, the come down not so much. I swear to go I’m living clean this time. I swear.

Fuck off, you crackhead, poppers-sniffing, aerosol-huffing whore turning tricks in Baltimore. You’re a killa and you need to kill yourself! R93

R68 We could take you seriously if you wrote like an educated adult. You may as well type “she be trippin, I be sippin.” Just stop. You seem smart, but you must type proper English if you want to be taken seriously. Otherwise, you sound like an uneducated middle-school fool.

[quote]He was ALWAYS a loudmouth, and put a friend thru HELL with his non stop DRAMA.

Don't be a tease, give us details!

Sometimes the "strays" take each other out

r44 Did not know this person at all.

Yes R90, he was heir to the Kruger chain of grocery stores.

Apparently not, R88, since the murderer received life in prison.

This is getting really sorrid. It's alleged that the vic started a sexual relationship with the killer when the latter was 15. It apparently involved meth. "Disturbing photos" were said to have been found on the victim's phone.

R101 People who raised a murdering meth addict will say anything to lessen their shame

R101 The kid had a “scrapping cart” he’d push around the neighborhood as he salvaged metals?

Sounds like a character on “The Wire.”

Josh lost his life over a thug’s big black cock.

"It's just as likely he was trying - foolish though it may have been - to help this guy."

Josh was one seriously fucked up, messy queen. Then he meets a street urchin with a chip on his shoulder who is also seriously fucked up.

And anyone expected this to end well?

Josh lost his life because of engaged in reckless behavior. Can’t justify the guy shooting him, but it sounds like Josh was still using drugs and was exchanging drugs fo sex with his killer.

Josh played a role in his own demise.

^^^^ I thought this too r106. Drugs clouded both of their minds.

R102 they'll say photos were found on the victim's phone that showed he was hooking up with his "mentee"?

R108 Is that supposed to justify murder?

Not murder, no. It explains the motive though and removes the "victim was an angel" narrative.

This was a druggie affair gone sour.

R110 I mean, if all the details are true it is also statutory rape.

This is DL. There's no such thing as rape.

He was seeing this young man since before he was eighteen?

A messy methy Mary and street trash that collects scrap metal. This had no good ending.

R114 It can't always be a whirlwind romance between two freaks of nature, like that scene in "The Fisher King."

You know the one. Where Robin Williams' schizophrenic has a charming little affair with Amanda Plummer's schizophrenic, and it's all smiles and vivid imaginations.

In real life, someone always gets shot.

If the parents have access to any videos, they might “leak” them.

R113 according to his family, it was when he was 15. Also supplying him meth at that age.

josh's brother just made a few statements to the media. He said he went through his house after he was killed and found some "disturbing" items. He said they were lots of baggies and scales, and he assumes that Josh was back to dealing. He said he doesn't know how bad the allegations with the teenager are. It sounds like Josh's family is very worried about the details that are about to come out.

police have said they found disturbing content on josh's phone in the aftermath of the investigation and have handed the content over to a special victims unit.

And now people are trying to hide Josh’s skeletons.

R118 Great link

R120 You were in love with him, and that love was unreturned. How embarrassing for you.

R121 Here you go

R122= Josh posting from beyond the grave

The worst is drama queen Ernest Owens who was all RIP, sad faced last week and is now "I knew all along."

He goes on to "demand" the release of the shooter despite him still being on the lam.

Josh is no different from dozens of queens I’ve seen in bars. He was an addict and they know how to put up a good front.

Yeah but pretending to be an activist while fucking and supplying drugs to a 15 year old is a special kind of scum. If it's true, anyway.

I told you all he was “troubled”. It was code for “a piece of shit”…..

On Ernest Owens, as soon as I see "brown bodies" I know it's going to be from a professional outrage grifter.

r128 Your obsessive posts on this thread have caused you humiliation.

[quote]This is unfortunate, but we need to address the ways white gay men terrorize Black & brown queer bodies.

I think you have this backwards. Clearly.

R130 get off drugs, mary. You’re obsessed with me

Aren’t you supposed to marry up?

R133 Or marry Black.

But never jailbait, meth addicts, or guys who sell scrap metal for coin.

Pennsylvania politicians are deleting their condolence posts for him on social media.

Good, he was a POS

Hi I’m the creator of this thread. Now that more facts have come out, there are obviously mitigating circumstances here. Imagine if this was some big black guy and a young blonde twinkle. Josh is old enough to be the perp’s father. And they started their sordid affair when when the perp/victim was only 15. In the eyes of straights that is grooming. It appears as unfortunate as it is, that Josh was a drug dealing sexual predator.

R137 in the eyes of most gays this is grooming too

Is it really R138? That's not the sense I've gotten.

On the contrary, I assumed most gay men would scoff at the idea of a 15 year old being sexually exploited by an adult.

R139 maybe with older gays. most of my friends would be horrified and realize this is very wrong.

Even William Way Community Center has now cancelled their "celebration of life" memorial service.

R141 did they make an announcement or just removed it from their event calendar?

Is this what happened to the prissy doctor in Detroit that so many had a hard on for here earlier this year? “Good taste! Money! Generosity!”

The Detroit doctor crime was unsolved last time I checked.

R142, the Philly Inquirer says it has been officially canceled, on Page 2 of Section B in today's paper.

NAMBLA calls for a national day of protest against this event being canceled

[quote] Did Josh have a smart mouth or something?

No, I’d say his mouth was of roughly average intelligence.

[quote] NAMBLA calls for a national day of protest against this event being canceled

NAMBLA would look at this perp as being of roughly Mamie Van Doren duration. “He’s past his sell-by date for seven years!”

I hope for Josh’s sake the dick was worth it.

He still has his defenders…it’s complicated.

R150

Defenders?

“He was a great guy and supported many great causes. And we don’t know the whole story. And he is not here to defend himself. And yes many gay men use drugs when they have sex.”

That is not the kind of defenders I would want.

All the while police have phone records of messages and pictures.

Who to believe?

His lawyer friend is still supporting him it seems…but the waters have gotten murkier and murkier.

How is the killer still at large though? Did he off himself or is he getting some support somewhere/how?

I called it earlier, there was a power dynamic.

[quote]How is the killer still at large though?

Maybe family or friends are helping hide him. Maybe he's half way across the country by now.

Have to wonder what triggered Robert’s anger to pump seven bullets at close range into Josh.

R156:

1. Gay Rage.

2. Meth.

r137 Allegedly

Meth is certainly a factor in the killing. Is there a more terrifyingly rage inducing drug out there?

[quote]Gay Rage.

Because that's a thing that results in death...

The victim may have been on the Spectrum. Those are Aspergers eyes if I’ve seen any.

The killer looks mean and sociopathic to me

I’m glad I’ve never trusted people. Scumbags have tried to run cons on me too.

We’ll never see the alleged by the family videos since they include a minor.

R161. BINGO

This is why they hate us! Stupid meth whores

R166 what about the straight folks who use meth?

R166

You really think most straight people have any idea what PnP is? Or Chem sex? Most straights are clueless as to what goes on in gay sex.

my husbands grandmother used to say, you run with the bone, you bury the bone. I don't know what that really means, but it has something to do with stuff like this. And my cousin in Texas says, if you shave your dogs ass and leave it out in the rain, you can't complain if it barks. I don't know what that means either. But he seemed a nice man, talented, hard working and certainly beautiful. What a shame and a waste.

Live by the bone, die by the bone!

I bet he was one of those guys on Grindr where his profile pic looked absolutely nothing at all like he did when posting. Think Cleetus from the Simpsons.

Reportedly, the victim was considerably heavier at the time of his death and nowhere near as trim as published photos depict.

Get high with “lower associates” wind up dead. Learn from this guy.

How does one gain weight when one is a meth head, R172?

Eating isn't usually a top priority for these people.

And if he died overweight, then less concern for him from most DLers…

R173 especially when you groom them and statutory rape them.

R174 Binging. Weekend drug warriors often gain weight once they become so nutritionally unbalanced. This is especially true for functional drug addicts with income and employment. Binging on the weekends lead to overcompensating once the high wears off. You begin to eat more during the week. After a while this can throw off your hormonal and even glucose levels further exacerbating your increased calories. Then you binge on weekend losing a few pounds but after a while the body becomes used to the fluctuation. You’ll notice why many functional addicts start to look bloated.

A much heavier Josh Kruger, as opposed to the older photos showing him trim.

R178 gasp, Oh my that mafucker was addicted to meth and Burger King.

LOL at the "grooming" i.e. brainwashing. They were having drug fueled sex if anything.

The murderer was born damaged goods. Just look at his face.

R180 Yousa dumb ass racist bitch. The grease ain’t hot enough…

R178. Boy he blew up.

R181 : Better throw it back on the stove then Jar-Jar.

R183 Own your racism bitch. Own your deficiencies. Own your inner self loathing about a subject matter that is making you post racist comments online.

All I said was he looked like damaged goods and I was insinuating that he was a little "special", but you took it personally. Oh well.

R185 Own your fake cynical retort. Own that shit bitch.

Could you say the word "own" some more? You haven't repeated yourself enough yet. I still don't understand what you want.

R187 Concede that shit. Concede that you literally have been obliterated on this thread. Attain title for it bitch.

Kill Teacake!!!!

R159 the Floridian drugs that cause men to murder and eat other people. Bath salts? Etc.

R189 After 400 yrs slavery and oppression. Violence on black bodies and the continuous violent reign that persists today on black bodies by other black bodies why WHY do you want to kill me.

So nutjob Teacake started this whole thread. What a shame to block him.

Didn’t Josh know having retarded people in your home is bad luck?

It’s all about the dick, LaRue.

R192 I started this thread because I thought an innocent victim of our community had been murdered by a random intruder. As more info came out I learned this “victim” was not so innocent and that the real victim in this might be the killer finally fighting back against his rapist.

R195 How many times does a person have to block you? Do you just keep coming back?

You're like herpes, only smellier.

I knew sex pigs like Josh. They become consumed with sex and drugging. No sense of decency. Addictions will do that to you. The high that comes from the drugs and the sex. I know that because I experienced some of this as a former drunk. Nothing as drastic as Josh, but close enough to put my mental and physical health in danger.

You know what? I’m sad for both of them.

He is mad. The cunt who has been owned is mad. I’m done. I will no longer entertain him.

Wow. Three separate accounts.

If you got a handle on your drinking, I bet you could parlay this energy and persistence into paying work!

R198 Teacake - Where did you come from? You seem to have materialized overnight. And with some instant just add water controversy. What is your origin story? What do you want from DL? Like they would always say in the 80s nighttime soaps, "I want you to find out everything you can about him."

R200 🥰. If you gna come for me at least be funny. And you are funny. Can you school these hoes.

Also for those of you with newly discovered info please do not hesitate to post. Do not let this “e-beef” intimidate you. Love my elder gays.

[quote]Stop Picking up strays from the street.

If they're not on a sidewalk, it's a deal break for me!

I want to immolate Teacake 🔥

R204 Please can we just make amends. I don’t want all these death wishes upon me, written in script. The power of language. Abrah cadabrah juh feh van le shre sheng. Get the devil upon me. Forsaken cas enemy. Le coi cas caca. Gooo ooo. Noooo.

Teacake is a block of cow crap

R204

Does that require a lot of crisco or am I confusing immolate with something else?

Teacake: the Donald Trump of DL posters.

Attention seeking blowhard. Talentless. Humorless. Gets high off the fumes of his own obnoxiousness. Convinced he's the smartest guy in the room, when the reality is he's the proverbial class clown, a carnival barker, a human turd in the punchbowl of humanity.

Can we get back to the incorrigible meth whores?

Where did teen loverboy stash his scrapping cart while he was upstairs giving Daddy Meth another taste of chocolate?

R209 Teacake is though

When they say that they found dark stuff on his phone, could this be the typical pig bottom, parTy type thing that maybe to a straight person would be shocking but to gays it’s not a big deal? My mind first went to illegal porn but then thinking about kink that people list on gay apps, perhaps that’s what they’re classifying as dark.

Holy crap, r178. I wonder if that was after he stopped using, or was he always overweight?