Heartstopper

Joe and Kit twinning to start the thread

Joe

Bring on season 3.

R2 literally a dream. He’s so fucking hot

Wonder where the table read is — slough or London?

R4 the person in the comments asking "what show is this?" must have felt trolled going from that gif to season 1 of HS

*R3

R1 I can vividly hear the “for fuck same” Joe would have said on seeing Kit in that, having only just worn it himself

That was meant to be “for fucks sake” but I guess it stands either way

R8 honestly testament to how hot they both are that despite looking so different they both look fantastic in it

R1 It cracks me up that they ended up in the exact same combination out of the what, 3 or 4 sparkly options? Though the one I liked second best (attached) wouldn't have worked with either of their coloring much. There were two other looks I would have liked to see Joe in, but they wouldn't have worked as well without tailoring.

I’d be curious to see what felicity would do with joe. Or someone else, just not Harry lambert. I don’t hate holly but I think someone else could do even better

He’s gorgeous regardless and I know a serious face is the go to thing for everyone on a red carpet but his team really needs to encourage him to smile in at least some pics. He has actually one of the nicest most radiant smiles

Random speculation here but given the Wimbledon cap has been out of the rotation for a while but this was filmed recently, I wonder if it’s the strike that made him switch it out? His go to caps now are the marvel pride one and the Agatha one and it might have skirted too close to promo for comfort

R14 Assuming he brought it back for that reason. He hasn't worn it in ages.

R12 I think she needs someone at least like Felicity in that she caters a bit more to her client's tastes. It feels like she's still doing the guiding more than Joe, he needs someone to sit with him, nail his tastes down, and then pull from there.

The fandom is about 20 minutes away from starting a timeline based on Joe's eyebrow shape.

R13 this makes me think. I’d love to see he and Kit pose together properly on the red carpet. Men often struggle to pose together (even gay couples often look awkward). They were cute in the four at the Attitude awards but Joe is much better at posing now and he and Kit are so relaxed with each other, I think they’d really set the standard.

R16 the thing is nothing holly has put joe in feels super out of his tastes. I genuinely believe he loved his attitude look, GQ look, emmys look, and even this Valentino. She just needs to tailor better, think about the occasion (so not a Loewe evening look Kit is gonna wear the following week for a what’s in my bag), and be more original. I think the vibrant colours, sleeker fits, interesting architectural details, and menswear/womenswear crossover all feels very Joe

R16 I hate to be this guy but I think they might be fucking right

R18 It still feels pretty broad to me, but YMMV obviously.

R19 Unfortunately, no.

R19 his hair on the sides is shorter in the Vogue World one.. might have been trimmed right before the event though

R20 I get you but I also think it helps to not box joe in too much. He’s super small and narrow but has a great frame with broad shoulders and nice legs, and can wear any colour and a fair few silhouettes. I think the biggest issue with Holly’s stuff is it’s not tailored enough to how tiny he is. I think the GQ look would’ve been something fashion magazines nonstop talked about if it was cut more narrowly and emphasized his tiny waist for instance. There’s a reason attitude and the Emmy’s with the best tailoring and a bit of edge are the looks people talk about the most

R20 I was basing it on the fact he got a haircut on the day of the event (Petra hadn’t brushed the hair off his face, which is kind of fucked) but you’re no doubt right. I would say within a few days though

R17 Some day.

R12 I wouldn't want them to end up with the same stylist. I know Felicity has a lot of clients but I think it's best if Joe and Kit have their own teams.

R25 I said “or someone else.” I use felicity as an example of someone a bit better than holly. I get your point re same stylist but joe and Kit look so different that I don’t think it would be a huge issue, they would basically never be going for similar looks.

R25 Felicity surprisingly only has a handful of clients, I would assume by choice. Sometimes I wonder if that's part of the problem, that Holly has too much going on to be able to give Joe a little more time and to work more on the details, like fit.

R25 Does Felicity have a lot of clients? I’m not being an arsehole I’m genuinely asking. She does some editorial and a few once offs where you don’t see her style them again (presumably paid for by a studio or someone) but she actually seems to have three main (Kit, Paul, Ncuti). I’m asking because one of the things that strikes me about Holly is she seems stretched a bit. The Ralf Lauren Wimbledon day she styled at least three people for just the day Joe was there

R27 I also think she just genuinely prefers working with women a lot more, which is fine I guess but shitty if you’re going to half ass your male clients and barely promote them

R27 Hive mind kicking in.

I think the Loewe outfit just seems short sighted when Kit has a relationship with the brand. For a bit like this I’m sure she wouldn’t contact Felicity and Kit’s outfit would have already been chosen so it’s just unfortunate but you’re always running a risk with Loewe and Kit and I’d be side eyeing a sparkly polo as something that could definitely be on his radar. I’m sure Felicity is more expensive than Holly so she can have fewer clients - it might be time for Joe to pony up for someone with more availability to take the time with him

R30 Right. There are a lot of great stylists working. I'm sure Joe could find someone new that speaks to him. He has a great sense of style.

1 minute 24 seconds into this clip

R31 Holly has enough Netflix clients that I think she must be on some kind of suggested list, and I think she’s cheaper because she has so many new stars. I know Joe’s not astronomically rich but if Kit’s proven anything it’s that a top notch team is invaluable. After Yaz’s whole decline into the background, I did wonder if it’s possibly the same with his PR, he’s just got a cheaper team. I’d suspect Vogue did this with him less because of his PR and more because of how successful Kit’s was. I still think his team needs a total overhaul

Ultimately, I think they would've been fine if Holly had dressed Joe more for the occasion. There are a couple of more comfortable, casual Loewe looks from the same collection that would have worked and wouldn't have risked an overlap with a Vogue World outfit. Linking to the "In The Bag" playlist for demonstrative purposes.

R32 Famous last words.

Holly hasn’t reposted the video yet, right?

Somehow stumbled across this kit stan whose resentment of Joe and victim complex for kit is insane. The kit version of lexxie I guessing. Like lexxie sometimes throws up a tweet pretending to like Joe but very clear issue with him. They’re both such freaks

Joe definitely hired a relatively inexpensive team (stylist, PR, etc) when s1 came out. Nobody knew they show was going to be so popular and did get great coverage from them early on. Then he spent almost an entire year filming back to back projects. Kit had way more time to attend fashion events and network with people, and definitely got his money worth with his higher caliber team. I can understand the economics of not wanting to pay for an upgrade when Joe was off in Atlanta or during a strike. But he really needs to overhaul his entire team before Agatha comes out. Hopefully even sooner.

R37 weird link doesn’t work. This person

R36 as she fumbled so badly by twinning him with Kit I don’t think she will. Not that she would anyway but this is not a great look for her

Is anyone even saying that it looks better on Joe in the first place?

R39 lol clearly that touched a nerve and they lurk on here, just tweeted about how everyone is a hypocrite for not calling out joe fans who said he wore it better when I have seen 0 tweets saying that

R41 yeah I think Kit looked hot in it, Joe looks really cute in it and don’t think comparisons need to be made at all but also have seen no one saying who wore it better, just joking about how joe wore it first and it’s cute they matched

R42 yeah, absolute 0. She’s just trying to start shit with no foundation at all

R39 A moron trying to start shit, but I'm cracking up at good ol' Matt suddenly being a stylist for the sake of his tweet.

Joe's looks more like it did on the model. Though kits looked like it actually fit. I'd go with Kit because Joe looks overdressed

R45 our guy Matt is always there

R39 I can't see. Guess I'm blocked but Matt's comment didn't help. I swear that fandom is so weird.

I honestly have high hopes for joe overhauling. CAA knows the value of good promo and good teams behind people as paying dividends for fame and acclaim, and joe isn’t blind, I’m sure he sees how well Kit, will, and formerly Yaz’s PR did for them. I don’t think we’ll necessarily see it before the strike ends and s3 is done filming but think after we will

R46 I mean my point is the comparison is unnecessary. Weird choice for what’s in your bag but Kit and joe are both hot and the look is different enough on them and suits them both enough I think both looked great.

R47 you’re not blocked, she clearly lurks on here and tweeted pissily about hypocrisy and then went private as soon as her tweet was posted

Matt doing exactly what she wanted by rising to a fictional beef she’s created.

R49 agree no comparison needed. If they constantly wore the same things it would suit them in different ways because they both have amazing bodies

R50 I try to keep these to a minimum but hahahahahahahah

R48 I do too. Celebs change people often when they blow up unless they have some amazing personal relationship with the. For example, Holly seems to like Joe, but don't get the feeling it's some amazing cooperative partnership or that she gets his personal style on some deep level. He's a cute skinny twink so she puts him in stuff that a cute twink would wear.

Those manifesting the team overhaul I really hope so too. He’s ambitious and he would see how well Kit and Will do from their PR. Spending the money probably seems intimidating but long term it’s clearly worth it

R53 As long as he's happy. I don't really care. I think he can get a better stylist than Holly but that doesn't mean they have to be more expensive. It's all about the taste and knowledge of the person you're styling. Joe said he's not keen to go to a lot of events, so paying more wouldn't make sense imo.

R54 the only reason I was speaking about a more expensive stylist is because, like Felicity and Kit, it would be nice to have someone who had more time to spend on Joe. But just a fresh set of eyes would be good, and someone who acted like they were excited to work with him. PR I think he should pay more, because if he’s paying as much as Kit then he’s getting played

R54 to be fair while he’s not keen to just accept every w invite I think that’s different than not going to a bunch of events. Even this summer he’s gone to what, 6 or 7? And that’s amid a strike with only HS out. I don’t think he’ll ever be a celebrity who goes to the opening of an envelope like some but it might ramp up organically next year, with him either having premiers and interviews he has to attend or just getting invited to things that sound cooler to him

Which also reminds me I hope his styling and grooming is on point for agatha press. I’m sure he’ll end up on at least some late night and aside from the exposure marvel broadly will give him, getting on a fallon or kimmel or something (ideally graham norton) is also a lot of exposure. He’s so endearing and funny and telegenic, if his styling and grooming showcases how gorgeous he is I think he’ll do very well from press

could be the producer I guess

R58 I do think it’s the table read but that person is (1) in post production so unlikely to be at table reads (2) in Spain right now, so the twitter person should fact check before taking their victory lap

Wait, did Joe make a separate story just to tag the haircare brand? Lol Joeee

R59 awks… thanks for taking a peek! couldn’t even be bothered

R60 tbf Vogue centred one of the clips on it. Which is weird too

R60 There was a minor freak out about it. Not to worry everyone has had a freak out once or twice they've had to live with for a thread or two in the past.

this came up and I‘m officially worried about my algorithm. All the comments about Bash congratulating Joe in private shows you just how out of the loop people are

R64 the kids really aren’t all right

R64 That damn bestie argument

R64 No but I was thinking about this. The casual fans who are not aware of social media activities or Bash’s sister unfollow or OF Nick/Tal must be so lost. They literally stopped hanging out so randomly. Night and Day. Joe was legit liking and posting Bash on his story a few weeks before the official break up time.

The problem is that the fans are so fucking stupid that they think Occam's razor is a Zelda game. Simplest explanation is that they had a falling out, but somehow these morons have gone with every other fucking unhinged scenario instead.

R67 true, but it’s also been months of them not liking each other’s posts and they haven’t posted each other at all in their dumps.. I feel like even if I was a casual, I wouldn’t have expected a birthday story at this point

Late but baby queen commented on Joe’s IG post. Actually really sweet. Bash lost every pop girl in the breakup.

“Love you Joe. Hope it was the most wonderful day ❤️”

R68 Not really a falling out when the breakup was so abrupt but I get you.

Thankful to whoever pointed out that Carnie Wilson is a Heartstopper fan, noticing her comments on old posts now makes me laugh.

R71 Yeah, I was mostly trying to put myself in the shoes of a casual. Thinking that they don't necessarily know about the Atlanta visits or pay too much attention to social media? But I don't know.

R72 Gen X women, huh, love themselves some young guys.

R73 It's confusing as fuck to us who know all the gossip. I can't imagine how they must feel. I need a tell all or Joe to just randomly say what happened the summer he and his boyfriend broke up. He'd do it in a few years in some random story or something.

it’s just funny that there are people thinking Bash would send Joe birthday love in private when the more likely scenario is him gifting Joe a diss track at this rate

Some tiktok fans are funny. This made me laugh.

Kit, Tobie, Bradley, Tobie's BFF, and Hot Loewe Guy liked Joe's British Vogue reel. Would've been nice to see a little more support from the cast since he reposted it but at least he has that dependable group. The Hot Loewe Guy mention is just a fun little treat for me.

R78 excellent. If he follows Joe my raving on here about imaginary threesomes is going to reach AO3 levels of poorly constructed bullshit. Buckle in

R78

[quote] Kit, Tobie, Bradley

The holy trinity of Joe lovers

R78 the core joe squad is loyal at least, and before anyone jumps down my throat yes I know the rest of the cast not liking means nothing. I actually think Joe and Kit seem to be the most universally beloved, except bitchy rhea’s beef with joe

R80 hitting like before Joe even reposted

I know we shouldn’t entertain these weird fans but did Anna watch the same show? I feel like i’m losing my mind reading this. Season 2 had a lot of flaws but their chemistry is the one thing that kept me watching…

Anna is from her username a 33 year old Frau who probably thought RWRB was the height of chemistry because she wanted to fuck both of them and because she doesn’t want to fuck joe and Kit she thinks their intimacy is off. The only “bad” thing about their chemistry, and it’s a testament to them is they’re so hot together and intimate and horny in their scenes that it’s unbelievable they want to wait

New old pic of joe in rollacoaster

He’s so endearing

R85 those lips. Insane

Not the R2 gif making it to Joe’s LPSG. It’s like the opposite of Twitter sourcing content here - I feel almost proud of these horny threads

R72 I LOVE that she is such a fan!

R88 I love how they get right back to thirsting when someone tries to start some fan theory. They are way more horny than us which is shameful.

R90 until recently it was the opposite. They’ve really upped their game - which has coincided with some taming of thirst here. Joe’s little caviar video gave a fair bit of ammunition yesterday but it’s been pretty clean of late

The difference is that we both thirst over them and care about them as people, so it's never going to be thirst 100% of the time on here. But I'm not about to give any credit to LPSG of all places given that they stole both my gif and the shirtless picture of Joe in Sicily that I brought over here.

Random, but I laughed at the idea of Yaz being loved on social media and not needing HS anymore. Clearly not the case if you look at numbers.

R92 All in all, Yaz is doing fine. I’ve seen influencers with far less followers than her get ahead and make a good income. She seems smart and very charismatic (even if a bit conceited). And she has a lot against her so I’m kinda rooting for her.

R92 The Yaz decline is definitely real. We’ve talked about the Instagram engagement, but her engagement is down on TikTok as well. She used to get millions of views per video last year. She no longer cracks a million. I would say that, minus the transphobes, people are more apathetic than anything else. I would love to know what is up with the YSL deal, it’s been pretty quiet given that she’s a full-fledged ambassador.

R92 as a huge joe fan reading that, how annoying. To say if he mentions Kit then he must necessarily be accepting people treating him worse is ridiculous. Like, what?

R93 I don’t have an issue with Yaz and would like to see someone who is not only trans but also black and low income succeed, but I don’t think she’s extremely likable or a great actress. Eloquent and a fantastic model though so hoping it works for her in that niche

R92 Some Joe stans really need relax. Joe brought up Kit on his own, in that video. The outfit was an unfortunate situation but not much he could have done.

R95 Joe’s Kit mention was fine, fairly fleeting, and wouldn’t have overshadowed the rest of the video. The problem was the outfit coincidence.

The more annoying thing about that joe fan imo is blaming him for Kit being brought up. Like, in this case I agree it’s the outfit that compelled it. But generally speaking no, it’s not “his fault” just because he mentions Kit. He could not mention Kit at all and the fanbase would still find a way to make it about him and obsess over Kit more. It’s not because of joe, it’s because the fanbase is homophobic. I think it really shows the strength of their genuine friendship and how non-envious and mature joe is that he knows Kit is so much more popular and doesn’t get jealous or refuse to bring him up so he can “carve his own path”

Thankfully it's not something that happens on here, but there are pockets of Joe stans on Twitter that blame him for everything and I'm not sure they even realize they're doing it. Apart from the response to this video, I've seen comments about how he has less fans because he's not "conventionally attractive." Bitch, why the fuck would you even imply that he's ugly when you're a fan?

R98 Probably helps to already have his own huge thing (Marvel show). HS fans know nothing about longevity. The boys are still filming the show. Imagine if they started censoring themselves and kept their friendship private because of the fandom? The same fandom that whines when they have no new content?

Did the Wavy account not repost Joe’s tagged story?

People just like Joe and Kit. Joe's slap my ass comment was all over kit's ig comments and got the most attention. So anything about the two is gonna overshadow everything. Fans found it cute they were matching or were delusional enough to think Joe was wearing Kit's clothes. It's not a big deal. Joe stans pick your battles. I say this as a Joe fan.

R101 they followed him. They were already going through it and probably got more orders than they knew how to deal with. Reposting it seems unimportant.

R102 I do agree that Joe needs to build his own name and have his own thing but that will come with time. It’s like people forget that he’s been in the industry for 2 years while Kit has been here for 10+

R102 Agree that it's unimportant (because I want them to stay the fuck away from Joe), but it takes 5 seconds and 3 screen taps to repost a Story.

As a huge unapologetic Joe stan I can’t with some of his hstwt fans - it’s leaking onto Instagram as well. They do way more harm than good. Bring attention to negative tweets or blame him for his link to Kit. Fortunately he also seems to have picked up more gays in his Instagram comments so that’s a win

As upthread, what the fuck happened with Yaz’s YSL deal. Nothing since just after she was announced. I hope it wasn’t because of any kind transphobic shit

Honestly what’s annoying is like 95% of joe fan complaints are very legit, it’s just the 5% that are so dumb or pointless delegitimize the points when they harp on them. Critics ignoring joe because they want to salivate solely over how Kit came out irl and nick comes out in the show and it’s so tragic is shit. Interviewers in joe solo interviews bringing up Kit and the coming out when joe mentions his own struggles is shit. The disparity in followers and engagement is shit. Netflix emphasizing Kit and nick so much more than joe and Charlie is shit. Joe getting shitty storylines from Alice is shit. Joe mentioning how he hates his appearance and body image issues multiple times and that getting ignored is shit.

People joking about joe and Kit wearing the same outfit, or some Netflix social media person being too oblivious to realize Joe and bash broke up when making his birthday post, are not problems. Focus on the real issues not these weird invented problems

R103 also, and I really say this loving Kit and thinking he deserves every ounce of the attention he gets, a good bit of how he has his own name now is because of his coming out. Not saying he wouldn’t have been very well regarded or gotten great engagement without it — he’s a phenomenal actor and beloved online, and is incredibly likable — but it got him a lot of unique press unlinked to the others. I obviously don’t think that was the intention, I think he was understandably frustrated and hurt by online trolls being awful to him, but that really was the “niche” that helped stuff on him not just be about Heartstopper.

If joe ever wanted to open up and be really honest about idk, how completely fucked his mental health and self esteem are from serious online bullying and exactly how toxic and homophobic and harassing social media is, I don’t think it would be quite as big a story but think there would be something comparable (thinking of how lili reinhart has a lot of people fond of her even who don’t watch riverdale because of her openness about serious body dysmorphia). But I think both he and Kit are doing the smart thing of pushing to be seen as actors primarily rather than just personalities and it’ll serve them really well

R105 Looks like the deal is still active (her makeup artist tagged them in his post), but they’re not doing much with her, which is strange. Last Yaz post on their account looks to be from April.

Her post, not his post, sorry. Got her confused with another MUA.

R108 yeah, the only thing I could find on their site was some set of products that were a look for her or something (we have stepped well out of my area of expertise here - women’s make up is a mystery to me). Linked - there is no photo of her or video, just her name. Fucking weird

I completely forgot that people initially told themselves that Joe removed the Bash post from his Insta to have a "more professional" feed, this is hilarious in retrospect.

R108 Skimming their account, the other ambassadors pop up more. You would think that Vogue World would have been a great opportunity to use her, maybe get a BTS video as she got ready for the event, or something?

R110 That's really bizarre.

R111 I think I was one of these people. Just going to sit here in my shame

R111 honestly of all the lies we told ourselves this one actually remains the most plausible in the abstract to me, though obviously we know why now. The one he removed of the two of them had a Getty images watermark and wasn’t the most coupley one; the birthday post (since deleted) was so I think people figured he just hated the watermark. And he deleted a GQ one at the same time which again, in retrospect, makes sense because the headline for it was about first love and its beauty, but did make it seem like a professional grid cleanup. That said anyone who maintained that insistence after joe posed OF Nicks head and Steph unfollowed was deluded

I would still love to know what went down, who ended it with who, what if any fight they had, and how the fuck billy is involved, but we will never know.

Will forever mourn what Pride could’ve been like if Bash hadn’t been on the float.

R114 that’s quite a good balanced ig account. Pretty sure it’s run by a teenage girl, which is always unsettling, but most of the fan accounts on ig are

R114 on one hand agree and hate joe had to feel so uncomfortable. On the other it was honestly really nice to see how actively concerned and protective Kit was being, from the checking in with him to seeking him out to hug and give physical affection to. Still so annoyed they didn’t fuck after

Connor is inexplicably just resharing old an old post he wrote. So while unemployed couldn’t even be bothered to write a new one?

R117 well he’s extremely busy packing and shipping the 10 t-shirts he and Bash’s not-for-profit lizards sold. Where would he find the time to write?

R114 Insane to me that they have all of that chemistry and that, somehow, people still think they don't like each other (and some think they straight-up hate each other). I did get jumpscared by that bit of Tobie and Bash dancing.

R116 Hoping that the therapist that Joe briefly mentioned in the Vogue video, at the very least, talks enough sense into him for him to stop wasting his time on total losers that are undeserving of him.

Sorry to repost for the thousandth time but all the joe and Kit pride clips.

R118 after kits intervention I’m sure it was at least 20 cmon

R117 My guess is that the piece he’s sharing again didn’t get a lot of traction and he hasn’t been commissioned to write another one because of that. Maybe that’s why he’s boosting it again.

And for those who like to hate watch, a reminder of how unworthy bash is

R121 true. I forgot about Kit’s heartfelt endorsement.

R116 There’s fanfic for that if you’re that bothered (joking) for real, I’m too curious for my own good and there is a fanfiction of them shagging after DC Pride.

R125 I'm surprised I hadn't heard of it before this. Not because I read fanfic, but because it sounds like the kind of thing the fandom would have thrown a shitfit about.

Crunchy is so fucking stupid, why would they be discussing their contracts in a group?

R126 I almost want to link it to some of them anonymously to see them throw a shitfit.

I have the distinct idea that this woman is trying to be “down with the kids” way too hard sometimes.

I can’t read it because I’m sure the second hand embarrassment of a straight woman writing two real queer men fucking will be too strong.

Did not get past the author’s note stating that the thing is titled after a Taylor Swift song. I’ll never understand the obsession fraus have with her.

[quote] Did not get past the author’s note stating that the thing is titled after a Taylor Swift song. I’ll never understand the obsession fraus have with her.

R129 THANK YOU! Thank god I'm not the only one.

R114. With the Hunger interview there is less of a mystery as what happened. Joe spent time in his apartment and “I learnt a lot about myself and what I want”. Clearly that did not include Bash. We do not know when precisely and how it was communicated. It could have been face to face on the 7th May or later long distance. A main course of drama must have been the timing. That it happens at the start of the theater run is of course the worst possible time. A month earlier or later would have way better and not been that difficult when you are long distance and the interaction is restricted.

Kit's IG story looks like he's on his way to filming.

R132 I was going to say, looks like he’s most of the way to the Nick Nelson haircut

It's also the exact kind of Story he used to post back when he was shooting the first season when he was headed to or from work, I'll find one in a sec.

R131 He obviously didn’t fly halfway across the world to break up with him at the beginning of the play. Something blew up or likely Bash was a cunt as his clear stripes have shown. But you keep running that agenda frau. It’s always refreshing when you pop up to argue Joe left Bash because he likes hot dads, and not because Bash is clearly a self centred poisonous snake

I lied, the search function on Twitter isn't working for me, but I distinctly remember a similar-looking Story on a day where he wrapped early and the background song on it was Lovely Day.

R134 His lips are incredible, perfect for dick sucking.

Interesting that Joe and now Kit are started off the season with some activity, hopefully that carries on throughout.

It seems they’re back to their posting whatever they want whenever (within reason)

And yet y’all are convinced he’s at Paris fashion week (He could be tbf)

R139 We were?

R140 I mean Twitter, sorry! Although they’ve started to cotton on.

R135 The decent thing is to break up in person rather than by text message so that part is fine. He was ofcourse also there to see the show. Exactly what he learned about himself he wouldn’t say in the interview and I don’t think it matters in this context. It would be really weird if something suddenly happened on the 7th. If Bash had said a lot of strange and cunty things any boyfriend would just give him a massage because his nerves and stress level would be through the roof. So no I don’t think that is the course of it. Btw who do you think was the 4th person at the birthday table? Kit and Tobie pressed into two small chairs and Joe on a wide couch. Somebody who didn’t want too much attention and where pictures might generate a lot of noise?

R142 There's no 4th person, you delusional frau.

R142 the way you’re so fucking predictable, you shit stirring 45 year old AO3 writing Bash stan frau. I didn’t even have to look at your history to know who you are. Go flick your greasy old bean to Bash’s updates Twitter account with all of its 270 followers.

R142 It’s the couch. The ‘secret person’ is made of god damn cushion. Also, if my boyfriend was being cunty to me because he was ‘stressed’ I wouldn’t use my hands to massage him I’d probably use them to strangle him.

Does anyone have any experience with reporting TikToks? There's a really foul one of Joe (making fun of his appearance) and it's up to 500k views and 70k likes, was wondering if it's better to just ignore it or to link it here in the hopes that if enough people report it it'll get taken down.

Don’t link it. Not sure if about reporting it but I’ll see if I can easily spot it

I got you r134 / r136

R146 You can try reporting it but it most likely won't work. Tiktok won't even remove comments with slurs. Id recommend just blocking the user who made it. Linking it will only boost the engagement.

R146 saw it and reported it - it's easy enough to do and he doesn't need this sort of ****

plenty of signs the car ride could be HS related but the song choice one is the biggest reach I‘ve seen

Thank everyone, I'll split the difference and report it but not link.

In good news I couldn’t find it a bunch of different ways

Joe and OF Nick thirst liking the same guy's picture. Also, did not realize just how frequently he likes Gus Kenworthy's posts.

R142 the fact that you think bash berating joe would be understandable and ok and joe would of course massage him because it’s all due to bash’s stress when joe is leading a hugely expensive important marvel show and filming till 4am daily for it, right after finishing leading season 2 of a Netflix show, and bash is performing to crowds of several dozen geriatrics in Chichester is so goddamn funny

R154 the way I went to look and realised 90% of my friends like every single one of Gus’s posts. We are a simple people really

R151 I just laughed. Why do they think joe and Kit are communicating through microsignals? Shit is pretty obvious

Kit archived more posts. As far as I can tell, the posts that are gone are the Dunhill post from last year (when he went with Bash and Joe), the Hunger cover in black and white, the selfies of him with a guitar from 2021, the Peli pictures from last year, and the set of pictures of Kit and Mikaeel from when they were younger.

Remembering some of the weird bash fans earlier greatest hits:

Joe cheated. Got caught, freaked out and manipulated as if it was bash's fault for his cheating and now non stop posting shirtless pictures to lure bash back. Whereas bash has decided he needs to move on from this cheating asshole. And if you dont believe the cheating theory, thats fine. That wont change facts.

And if you dont believe the cheating theory, why dont you just dm of nick on twitter. But you wont. Because in your heart, you know cheated and you are afraid to find out the truth.

Like i said, thats the only thing that explains everything. Which is why you are trying so hard to malign bash, so you can protect joe. But anyone with half a brain can see it, plain and clear.

not to mention, you are asking me to believe that immediately after joe went back to atlanta after break up, he immediately started looking for hook ups and jumped into bed with nick the first oppportunity, and even hopped around town in NYC while Nick was also visiting within few weeks of knowing each other. Yeahhhh, seems like quite a stretch for a guy who is socially shy.

Joe is so famous that he could not even get seated by the Netflix gays. [this was about PFW which poor bash couldn’t even get an invite for]

Joe is so secure that he is now hiding his Insta likes. And you are telling me Bash is the insecure one in the relationship? Sure, Jan.

Joe is allowed to follow and post only fan nick only to hurt bash in the middle of his crazy play schedule risking hurting his play and entire career, but bash is not allowed to hang out with connor/friends or do whatever he wants with his insta. You guys are pitiful jerks, just like joe, who has no respect for bash or his career and thinks the entire world must turn around him. Overall, just sad.

You guys are the very representation of joe. He will fall hard and fast because he thinks the world revolves around him. Just watch. And he is just a marvel tv show lead that has not come out yet. Pipe down and pray to god that of nick is not too broke to leak his nudes because if he does, joe is pretty much done.

And my personal fav piece of fanfic: “ No one forced joe to post of nick's head. He did it himself as a fuck you to bash only because bash asked for some space during his very busy work schedule. Is that too much to ask? But joe immediately got offended and went nuclear, without considering how his actions can deeply hurt bash and his work. ”

R158 these guys and their random archiving. Though I’d think the Dunhill one might actually be related to the fact the couple in them has broken up. I don’t think that’s a stretch

R158 I didn’t like his hair at the Dunhill event so I’m glad that one is gone.

R159

[quote]Joe is allowed to follow and post only fan nick only to hurt bash in the middle of his crazy play schedule risking hurting his play and entire career

Laughed pretty loudly at this one. I can’t believe Joe almost deprived the Chichester elders of Bash’s garbage American accent.

R157 gotta shift the focus to "narlie" before anyone can insinuate it’s about a real girl and crush their fantasies of having a shot with him

R161 hope Bash is taking notes..

Vague post set to a song his grandparents probably listened to was basically his default Heartstopper posting style during the first season, not sure anyone was ever going to think girl. Crunchy frau is being a moron and trying to make it about PFW instead of the show, though. You'd think the way Kit posted plus Joe's post from yesterday would've clued her in.

R142 I don’t think you’re actually a troll but you’re wasting your time trying to have this conversation here. People are all pretty much Pro Joe so Bash is the villain and that’s that. I don’t think he’s 100% to blame for the break up, I’m sure they had a fight and they both said some things but we will never know. I haven’t seen a place online yet that harbors a rational think piece about the situation. It’s either Joe is a cheater or Bash is a psycho. Maybe on LPSG.

R165 I don’t really get your point aside from wanting to slide in your weird little issue with joe. I don’t think anyone on here cares about them breaking up itself or said joe was a victim for it. Literally go read old threads, 99% of the posters thought bash dumped Joe AND had no issue with him or felt sympathy for both and hoped they could be friends. It is purposeful obfuscation to say people hate bash for the breakup and think he’s a villain when it’s literally the post breakup actions and pettiness flowing one way, including making joe clearly uncomfortable at pride, that made people dislike him,. The original breakup threads had no problem with him. Maybe you and the other user can exchange numbers to bemoan how awful it is that people on here like joe and form a support group though, must be tough

R164 seriously over all those "delulu" tweets.. why else would Joe post Will in a HS jumper in a professional setting. what does she get out of pretending that’s not what’s happening when we knew they were set to start shooting soon anyway

What does she think Joe was doing yesterday, a dramatic recitation of his breakup texts with bash with Will acting opposite him? She’s so dumb

R165

[quote]I don’t think you’re actually a troll

Do you also believe emails from princes in Nigeria?

R168 is there usually a period of free time between something like a table read and rehearsals/fittings/shooting? cause I guess technically it could still work with his schedule if they’re not fully in production yet but I feel like it’s unlikely he‘d have time to spend so many days in Paris (considering loewe happens on Friday)

R169 I think just itching for someone who they could channel their weird “ACTUALLY joe isn’t perfect and btw has more followers than the YR guys so how dare you want more for him” energy onto.

R170 it’s possible it’s PFW for sure but for her to say so confidently that it’s most likely, as though people who think it could be s3 related the day after what was clearly a table read was posted, is idiotic.

Side note they love smugly saying joe must be getting in so much trouble because he’s always the one spoiling and leaking info, when nothing he’s ever “leaked” (a table read? Disneyland Paris?) is at all bad or plot relevant. And they’re weird hard on for the idea of joe getting scolded by Alice, their Frau in chief, is bizarre. Crunchy and her mates need to be studied in a lab

R166 My point is that we don’t know what happened and as much as we like to make fun of Bash, both could be at fault as it often is the case when you breakup suddenly. It’s really not that difficult to understand. I still think Joe went about it more maturely after the fact than Bash.

R173 but literally no one cared about the actual breakup. In fact the one guy who did and kept bitching about the mediocre play which is in retrospect hilarious was thoroughly reprimanded for it. In fact I reviewed my own post history and I defended bash a LOT and said if it was t working it wasn’t working. Saying “well after the fact is different” — after the fact and the actual relationship are all people have shit on bash for, NOT the actual breakup.

R173 also the condescending “it’s really not that difficult to understand” — put the reading glasses on and read what I actually said before coming along trying to talk down to me wi5 your one self awarded WW

R170 Even if he hypothetically had the days to spend in Paris, I don’t think he’s ever traveled this far in advance of a fashion week appearance.

R175 Lol

R173 They could be, but the fact that everyone that was equal friends of Joe and Bash sided with Joe is telling to me.

R174 People were literally responding to the troll saying Bash must have done something awful for the breakup to happen when we don’t know what happened. People were in fact talking about the breakup.

R178 you’re right but word to the wise, don’t try reasoning with someone who has a weird chip on her shoulder about the people of DL DARING to like joe and want him to be treated well by his bf/get the same treatment as Kit. It’s a trigger for her

R179 it was maybe one or two users and again, this was after bash and his family and friends had started to act like complete pricks so the gloves came off. Go read all the breakup threads before bash started acting petty. They’re much nicer. But feel free to continue jerk8ng off to your “poor bash and his friends and fans :( HOW DARE YOU SAY JOE DESERVES MORE FOLLOWERS” posts

R180 Right, you’re just proving that troll right that you cannot have a normal conversation about Joe without resulting in “everyone who doesn’t feel like me secretly hates Joe”.

R182 you’re definitely the twitter girlie who posted about how Kit wore it best and then threw a hissy fit that DL made fun of her, arent you

R182 also nothing secret about your clear weirdness with joe babe, when around 20 people have called you out on here is it more likely that they’re all the issue or you are

R183 Sure, Jan.

Sure jan is such a new fresh absolutely not frauish reference, I definitely believe you’re a young gay guy!

Anyway, HStwt selfie day is as always hilarious. Not a man in sight

you guys are exhausting - so here's Jo with a puppy to lighten this up a bit

R186 It is in a lot of other threads so I’m thinking you know nothing about DL and only post here. Sounds more like a frau thing to do. But you do you.

R188 aww an elder gay then, sorry for disturbing your nap grandpa. I am in other threads and think it’s a cringe outdated reference no one under 30 uses anymore but ok!

R189 No. Just one who has some culture. Maybe watch something else than Heartstopper and you’d know. Cheers.

I’ll stop now but someone saying that their use of sure Jan, a Brady bunch movie reference that was overused for a solid three years, is a sign that they’re someone who has culture has taken me OUT

New story on Insta from Kit. He looks ready to play Nick again.

Anyway, you know when you wake up to 40 posts it's a dumb fight lately since any real drama would have filled up a whole thread.

Joe's Vogue thing has 110k views in 23 hours. Kit's is at 889k after a month. Both are very good views vs other bag videos minus huge pop girls like Miley, etc. More videos please Vogue.

The Story from R134 or did I miss something?

R193 Joe's is going to pass Yaz's today, which is at 113k after 10 months.

Anyone think Kit's story today is him heading to the Heartstopper set?

R196 yeah, maybe rehearsals

R196 Everyone does

R195 Oh yeah, didn't even know about hers. Just watched Kit's and vs Joe, Kit using hand cream for every body part including his face is a funny contrast to Joe

I thought it was charming that their videos were similar but alike. Some of the same things, similar senses of humour leaning towards the self-deprecating (thought it was a little too self-deprecating for my taste sometimes in the Joe video), etc.

is this new?

R200 No, I think it’s from around the end of last year.

R200 These morons should really stop trying to play detective. The thing from yesterday too when it took DL 2 seconds to figure out the woman was in Spain. Though it's pretty funny to read.

R202 the Spain one was especially sad because, as the person who found it, she is the first insta result for her name and it was literally on her stories. Not even looking at tagged pics. Also her post about HS S2 literally said “qs someone in post I can as t really involved during the filming of the season” so unclear why they thought she must ofc be at the table read

personally re crunchy’s fashion week predictions are just hilarious to me. Its clear to anyone that Kit has an ongoing relationship with JW/Loewe so much that he has been only going to their events exclusively for a while, why would he suddenly go to paris days early to attend another designers show during women’s rtw week of all weeks

R200 They're going to treat this like a smoking gun, meanwhile we deduced that it was Will in the wrap sweater yesterday.

R202 some actually needed this pic to confirm Joe’s story was Will, which is kinda wild. There was even someone on the priv. reddit yesterday asking if it was Tal

R204 I assume that the only fashion thing on her radar is whenever Forever 21 has a sale.

R206 I will never understand the people that try to make everything about Lego. We have one of those here. Speaking of, he followed an account called "cigfluencers" and it's exactly what it sounds like. At his big age.

R208

[quote] aka HOT PEOPLE keeping the art of SMOKING & BEING COOL alive…

....

R208 just how do confuse the absence of beard, side profile and hair with Lego.. The follow is embarrassing and exactly what I‘d expect from him

Bash and Lego competing for cringe follows my god

R211 Was going to say they have similar cringe personalities.

Countdown to Sam Small unfollowing joe!

R213 I don’t think he’s following Joe. I don’t see him.

R214 he was as of 20 min ago lol

Is Bash coming out? I think that’s the first time he’s ever actually used the word Gay publicly.

R216 he couldn’t help himself after Joe posted "gay" two days in a row

R215 please tell me this is a joke.

R216 he’s just rewriting what’s on the mirror, don’t think it’s a coming out. He said he and Connor were queer actors in the Dino website. Honestly I’ve never had an issue with his level of being out, think it’s fairly obvious and he’s not hiding it, my issue with the way he treated Joe was more how dismissive and distant he was in public not the reluctance to actively say “I am gay”

R217 not joking, but I just checked and he is still following Joe, so no unfollow (yet).

Pretty sure there’s a dildo on the floor. Who’s place is it?

R220 no idea but given it looks filthy and she’s greasy as ever, I’m guessing Amybeth? Bangs are not a good call if you don’t plan on washing them frequently.

R220 Who keeps their dildo on the floor. Nasty

Someone please do a side by side comparison pic of Kit, Tobie and Joe vs that unwashed gang in a dirty house.

R223 left, a fan photo in poor lighting the guys were unexpectedly asked to take on a night out. Right, a photo bash and the unwashed chose to take and post in the afternoon

Twink lover you'll always be my hero as will you R224. Thank you for your service.

Wash your bangs Amybeth and maybe vacuum

need Joe, Kit, Tobie to post more pics like the ass slap one! a tragedy how few photos we actually have of that trio considering how much they‘ve been hanging

R226 like i fully expect them to have more photos together but we will probably never see them. if its anything like the ass slap or the 3rd story, i bet they are hilarious

Literally what has joe ever leaked? Disney Paris after them being spotted in Paris for a week straight beforehand?

I keep up with Omar and edvin and the amount of hate that Omar’s boyfriend gets is insane, there are whole tiktok accounts dedicated to trying to convince omar to breakup with him. At least be classy and keep it on gossip forums, can’t imagine dedicating an entire tiktok page to tell an actor to breakup with their boyfriend of about 3 years.

R229 Makes me think of the mistranslation incident that made Joe deactivate. People on twitter wanted Joe to break up for so long. I hate how homophobic these fandoms are.

R229 is it about nubo or whatever his name is

Nurbo Bozan

My brain always wants to read his name as Turbo. Not that he would deserve abuse regardless, but I don't like that he's set Omar up before by being rash on social media.

Kit, Joe, and Will are on the longlist for the TV Choice Awards in the Best Actor category. The show is under Best New Drama.

Oh, and Yaz is in the Actress category.

It's under best drama, category #3 not best new drama?

Joe and Kit are in category #14. Long ass list, didn't even see them the first time.

Trying not to read too much into it but Joe didn’t like the last 2 posts (from Tal). Either filming started or he’s cooling off.

R236 he liked the reel yesterday.

He didn't like Olivia's either, so leaning towards he's busy.

bday post at 933k, will reach 1 million one day

R236 Think he might have been shooting with Kit, hadn’t seen him be very active during the day either.

R236 I do like that it looks like he's less compelled to like every single one of his posts now. Might not be cooling off, but that combined with him doing his own thing with the guys for at least a good chunk of his birthday has me more relaxed.

I honestly do believe Joe when he said that he learned a lot about himself while abroad, really enjoyed living and being alone and independent, and thought a lot about what he wanted. I don't think Tal is "just" a fuckbuddy but I don't think joe's in any rush to have another very serious, very close to the family, doing long distance relationship.

wondering if there’ll be another "in production" video from Netflix.. don’t know how likely it is with some of the actors supporting the strike, but technically it wouldn’t exactly be their call, right?

R240 I think if he's busy he's not gonna go back hours to like things. When he was liking everything I think he was just not doing anything. Though he did like the damn circle tattoo a few days ago that Lego has posted at least four times. I give up trying to guess

R242 the last one was posted a few weeks after the show started filming, right? I think they'll likely make another one and maybe hold off a few weeks in posting in hopes that the strike ends soon.

Speaking of supporting the strike, hilarious alice didn't even throw up a "happy for my friends in the WGA on their victory" story. not striking in solidarity is one thing, ignoring it is insane. classic her.

R244 I don’t think she sees herself as a serious screenwriter. She’ll go back to writing prose after the show.

R245 yeah, she seems to resent writing for the show more than anything else

R244 yeah, it’d be in a couple of weeks after starting, but the strike might last till the end of November (minimum) R246 she was whining on tumblr about deadlines just yesterday

R245 agreed but it's such an insane thing to ignore. But she literally only cares about herself so par for the course.

R242 I could see them easily producing a quick video or throwing up a picture in a handful of weeks. If anything, if they wait until the strike is over they could film a little clip with Joe and Kit. That's all anyone really wants to see, anyway.

R243 I assume there's an element of liking them on autopilot if he happens to come across one to give his little page a boost with the algorithm.

Data Gay - When you so generously do the Insta update could you have a quick look at Yaz? I’m wondering if she got any kind of bump from Vogue world or the new Doctor Who trailer.

R250 LOL Data Guy or Data Gay or Data Gay guy 🤣🤣

R251 This has to be someone from twitter.

Not the data gay, but Yaz is trickling along. I don't think she's getting much of a boost, but isn't losing yet either.

And Tobie is almost at a million. I hate to compare him to Bash because he's not a cunt, but just as in Bash got most of his followers off his association with Joe and Kit. I don't think that's true for Tobie at all since he's a legit main actor in the show, but I don't mind him gaining a lot because they constantly hang out.

R253 I really like Tobie but I hope they keep Isaac ace aventures to a minimum next season. No one is interested in that, truthfully.

Im really hoping it moves back towards a heavy focus on Nick and Charlie, the others do not need the time they got this season.

R255 I hope Alice doesn’t make them unlikeable. They were already getting annoying with Nick’s coming out process that lasted all season. I don’t want people to start saying Charlie is annoying because of Alice’s poor writing.

Data Gay was an intentional moniker from me. Also have used Numbers Gay and Stats Gay in the past. Happy to use what ever self identification said person would like

R252 exposed by the unspoken no emoji rule

R253 thanks mate

R253 I think a good bit is hanging out so much with joe and Kit but I think that big boost in popularity was only possible because of the vlogs. He really endeared himself to a lot of the fandom with those, showed how funny and likable he was, and showed how genuine his bonds with the cast seemed

R255 can’t see Yaz getting anywhere near the same coverage even if she’s in the show full time. Apart from a few critics trying to rewrite reality where she was one of the strongest in the cast, she had fuck all impact in reviews or with fans. I know Netflix don’t have a huge influence in the script but it sounds like they might in the edit

while I understand trans storyline and trans actor are different things, given the fact that Elle is changing schools, if they want to keep trans rep as a primary focus in some capacity which I agree with, it would work well to develop Darcy’s storyline. Even though Darcy is a cis character, she’s played by a trans actor, I think the storyline is a lot more poignant and has a lot more to develop, and kizzy is a way stronger actor than Yaz with both more chemistry with onscreen love interest and just generally better chemistry with the rest of the cast

R250 I like Data Gay, to be honest.

46-hour Instagram update because I'm trying to get back on track:

Kit was at 6,182,731 on Sunday, 6,190,182 now, gained 7,451 followers (boost is up by 27%).

Joe was at 4,258,540 on Sunday, 4,262,114 now, gained 3,574 followers (boost is up by 3%).

Yaz was at 1,796,632 about a month ago (on August 28, more specifically). She’s at 1,852,116 now. She’s up by 55,484. If you want that further contextualized, Kit is up by 224,539 and Joe is up by 119,020 in the same time frame.

Also, can't vouch for it's accuracy, but these are the daily bumps Yaz has had, via Social Blade.

Data Gay it is. Thanks for that. Obligatory fuck all the factors that make Joe less popular and also that’s great for Kit. Interestingly (to me), I had the Ig bug where Kit showed at 6.2M on my app for at least a week. He’s only just dropped back down to 6.1M, right as he’s about to hit 6.2M

R260 Don’t know how I would feel with Kizzy taking up space from Yaz. She’s not the best actress but apart from the main actors, no one is really giving oscar type performances. Yaz is still doing a lot for her community by playing Elle and I think Elle and Tao’s relationship is a good balance to Nick and Charlie’s more heavy storyline. We already have Imogen basically replacing Tara. I wouldn’t want another white character to take up a black character’s space.

R261 They gained way more than I would have expected for the second month post-release.

R262 the big jumps around Vogue World seem about right. You’d think that would be people interested in fashion rather than HS fans. It would be great if she could keep accumulating that crowd

R264 I’m not saying replace, I’m saying if Yaz is in the show less because Elle is off at another school it’s good that someone whose storyline could feasibly expand is another trans actor. And if Darcy’s storyline is expanded, Tara’s will be too which would be great as cori is a great actress and dark skinned black rep is sorely needed. I wish imogen had been written off after s1 so not arguing that but I think hoping a gifted trans actor playing a pretty complex and more interesting storyline gets a chance to shine isn’t hoping another white person a la imogen comes in to snatch black roles, come on now

Kit gaining nearly double joes followers in a months and getting more followers from joes birthday than joe did is fucked up.

R268 I think that hot photo of Tobie and Kit that Joe took drove up Kit’s followers. I saw the cropped version without Tobie everywhere, because the existing fans are homophobic straight girl cunts

R269 I believe it but joe looked fucking gorgeous in the pics Kit and tobie took so still nonsense to me. At this point if anyone tries to convince me a 2 million disparity is anything but homophobic and fucked up im just not engaging

R267 I think even if Elle is sent away, they can make that storyline with Tao interesting and well developed (depends on the writing). I didn’t have a problem with her this season. She wasn’t the best but she wasn’t that bad. I had to speed through all of Imogen’s scenes because I couldn’t stand Rhea’s acting. That diner scene with Ben was excruciating.

Kit's been getting "hit tweets" on Twitter a lot in the last handful of days. The picture Joe took, a couple of the gym pictures (there's a tweet from two days ago with 11k likes from a gay account with 160k followers), and he got a (relatively) big bump from the selfie today (a KCI tweet with 12k likes, a random Nick/Kit comparison tweet with 13k likes, an Out of Context Heartstopper tweet with 8k likes).

My theory, based on fuck al,l is that Elle and Tao will have difficulty with long-distance and that storyline will actually be about Nick and how tortured he is about even considering leaving Charlie. You read it here first

R271 I, think maybe what I wrote originally has been misunderstood and that’s the source of our disagreement. My point wasn’t “write Elle out”, it was if her transferring schools and other signs of Yaz’s disinterest in the show are indicators that Elle is being downgraded to a guest role (which would be at yazs request, no way they’d reduce her impromptu), then it’s cool that a storyline that would grow and get more space would still be played by a trans person as opposed to just getting basically all trans rep in the show gone in s3 and as I said, if Darcy got developed so would Tara which would be cool for cori. If I’m wrong and Elle is still a MC, just at a different school, I’m totally fine with that. I don’t disagree with anything on rhea. She was so obviously the worst onscreen it was shocking.

R272 cool for him, still a homophobic disparity

Was a girl who looked like rhea mean to Patrick in high school and this is his way of living out his gay bestie fantasy. I do not understand his Imogen agenda at all

R273 If "struggling with long distance after having been together for all of 2 months" is what they go with for Elle and Tao, it's going to be excruciating. Realistically, everyone would be telling them to cut their losses at that point.

R274 Oh, I get you. Yeah, completely agree then. I do hope we’ll learn more about Darcy’s home life and Tara’s home life. If only Alice cared about her main cast.

R276 Gays in general love her because she's ~sassy~.

R272 I saw that Male Celebs tweet, one of my mutuals that doesn’t give a fuck about the show put it on my timeline.

R279 I blame Patrick for this.

R279 no I get how that works, I don’t understand it from the producer of the show, when Rhea is so wooden and ordinary and her storyline was so flat S1. Why bump her up to girl boss with latent sexuality questioning. He doesn’t even seem to like Rhea herself that much

R280 yeah, I got that in my tl too from a mate who I’m not even sure would know what Kit does other than him being the built bi guy. Ngl, it’s nice to see the gays in the comments being properly thirsty. Fuck all people with leaves in their profile calling him a pretty boy

Anyway, Teen Vogue wrote about Joe’s What’s In My Bag.

R284 I want to throw my phone every time I read that quote about his hair being “awful” a year ago because it was long and fluffy, following it up with a link to loser’s brother’s hair shit adds insult to injury.

R284 I hope Tal’s brother give him a proper thank you for mentioning his brand.

R285 I agree that I hate he feels insecure about his longer fluffier hair because I think it looked great, but honestly I think his hair still looks great now when he styles it himself (not when Petra is involved). Tals brother admittedly has really nice hair and I think if it’s what joe is using as his daily product it’s honestly not bad.

R286 He even got his name in an article and got called a model instead of random IG guy who was on Love Island 5 years ago

Though Joe saying he found this curl cream as if it's a random occurrence while out shopping is a bit funny

No offense to those pissed about it because where can you be bitchy if not DL? But I do think everyone is overreacting about joe mentioning the curl cream. It seems like a decent product. Sure he found it through tal but I honestly don’t think he’d have mentioned it if he didn’t use it, and I don’t think he’d feel pressure to use it if he didn’t think it was actually good. I like his loose curls but if he feels less self conscious with some product in his hair that’s fine

Not going to lie, I love the "bitch eating crackers" level of vitriol against Lego and company on here.

R290 don’t get me wrong I generally love it but think in this context it’s making Joe sound a little pathetic. Like he’s so head over heels he’s hyping a product his brother made for brownie points and approval, when I think he probably does actually use it and think it’s good. Tal is gross, won’t catch me arguing with that, I just think Joe liking a hair product isn’t a sign he’s down so bad he’s lying about tals brothers company

No, I think it's a good product most likely and they aren't even attention whoring off Joe mentioned it.

Though I will fight him over the comment that it's the product that made his hair look good for the first time ever.

R292 It’s just hilarious that Joe is featured on British Vogue at 20 and they are pushing 30, failed influencers and flexing on IG.

Ok, I shouldn’t be this harsh. They seem to be doing fine but comparing Tal to Joe’s success is just sad to see.

R294 This is so fucking disrespectful. He's a cigfluencer, not an influencer.

By the way, this is a hell of a throwback but confirmation that Jordan Fisher followed the whole cast back in July because he watched the show.

R297 oh cute. I figured probably not Michael Holden because it didn’t make sense Jenny was one of the only ones he didn’t follow.

Still wonder why he randomly followed Joe first and joe followed him back in summer 2022, especially as he clearly hadn’t seen HS. I am guessing he might have read for Miles’ role in Agatha

Someone said the cap in Joe’s Vogue video was Bash’s. Anyone know if it’s true? I

R298 thats what threw me off, the random Joe follow but reading for miles makes sense

R299 I'm guessing it's as true as the Cartier ring being a Joe/Bash thing. Joe was invited to Wimbledon by Ralph Lauren two years in a row, it's probably his.

R299 it had been Joe’s for years but it was originally thought to be Bash’s. Post break up the division of the wardrobe has mainly gone to Bash so it could have been Joe’s all along

R299 like the Cartier ring, seems like it was a not totally unreasonable assumption that in retrospect is untrue. I think people presumed it was bash’s because iirc someone on here or twitter said it was vintage, and thus we all presumed probably bash’s. But realistically it probably wasn’t vintage and joe just got it at RL last year. Even if it was vintage no reason Joe could t have bought it himself.

It'll be interesting to see what bits of Joe's video end up being the most replayed. Unsurprisingly, the two most played bits of Kit's are the cologne portion and the bit at the end where he calls himself an arsehole.

R303 Joe bought himself that vintage Disney cap that he wore out, so it checks out.

This is really cute.

The RWRB stans are starting to catch on.

R306 I know that the ‘what’s in my bag’ usually have sunglasses / fragrance / skincare but it’s still funny to see it laid out like that.

I don’t know if this was posted already but great interview with David, the intimacy coordinator. He talks about season 2.

Damn. I was hoping they'd let Kit keep his hair grown out a bit more, like the 1st season look.

Laughing at a tweet dragging Bash having more likes than his fan account has followers.

R307 The "friendships take place in real life" reply made me laugh because they're not wrong but that's clearly not the case here.

R310 I know. I hate that undercut so much. I don’t care if it’s comic accurate, it looks bad.

R311 yeah, doubt the RWRB guys hate one another or anything but clearly not irl mates. It’s funny because when Kit and tobie “ignored” joes birthday all day it’s because they went out with him that evening and the night before and posted then. When the RWRB guys ignore one another’s stuff I somehow doubt there’s the same motivation

R313 Tbh fans are stupid and I saw someone say Joe and Kit never hang out alone just the other day. I don’t think the RWRB stars are super close but we don’t see everything and they don’t show us everything either.

Kind of find it interesting that Joe's "In My Bag" interview was shot at The Savoy, those videos aren't usually shot there. Same place where the Vogue World "Gets Ready" videos were shot for Cole Sprouse, Nicola Coughlan, Taylor Zakhar Perez, and Maude Apatow were shot, though.

R315 that person who said based on his eyebrows that joe may have shot this right before vogue world may actually be right. I’d guess day or two before though, not same day

R314 The vibes do seem a bit off when they’ve been together, though.

R315 The whole set-up wasn’t what I was used to, like seeing him squashed into that chair instead of on a couch.

Nice to see connor knows how to be a good ex, left a comment on miles post

so i was going to the fashion week posts and i was wrong from the last thread, it looks like felicity is meg bellamy’s stylist not holly. so i guess cant blame her for the awful jw show look

R318 Took him months/years though. Maybe by next year Joe and Bash will be the same but I doubt it. Looks like a very bad breakup.

Speaking of social media, Joe liked Bella's most recent post and was the only person from the cast to like it. She definitely hitched her wagon to the right person.

R321 Bel liked it too, but not sure she's considered in the cast.

The mess of dating and the breakup to follow in 6-8 months among that friend's group is not something I would be involved in. Good luck Bella.

I am curious to see if it’ll be different with Bella as lolly isn’t famous at all, not even d list like the rest of them, and Bella is a star. But if joe is anything to go by maybe not

In Notting Hill today. He's not shaved, but his hair is shorter. Guessing they're doing pre-production stuff this week. Hopefully this means he'll make it to Paris for the Loewe show.

R324 this is not from today! it’s from september 21st. everyone else on twt and ig is just spreading the misinformation..

R325 Hilariously, that account is the one responsible for the misinformation in the first place. They initially tweeted that it was from today, but I see the tweet is deleted now.

guessing then there is a very good chance he will show up in Paris on Friday then

regarding the jw x apc collab as well, we knew that pieces where already popping up for sale on european sites but i was going through ssense this morning and they are already there was well, seems weird to be that they are already available for sale and it hasn't even officially launched yet

R326 any other week it wouldn’t matter that much, but this week with the production rumors, it’s a hilariously unfortunate mistake

R324 I really want to see him act in something else than Heartstopper. Something more adult.

I love the vague “someone said” when it’s DL

R330 Start saving your coins to go to London.

this doesn’t feature HS does it?

what does this mean?

The expression is just saying they’re gorgeous/have perfect faces basically. Like swiping a credit card and it never declines. Basically delusion. That bash fan is one of the most unhinged though, she hates joe now and introduced herself to bash’s mother at his play and has a tattoo in his handwriting, age (allegedly) 27, so

R335 Charlie is hot.

R336 not debating Charlie’s looks but weird as fuck to obsess over him that much on the basis of him dating bash and nothing else.

R335 oh, okay thank you

R335 Didn’t she give Bash a lego of him and Joe at the play? I still think about the random older fan who met Bash on the street and showed him pics of Kit and Joe at Pride. Hilarious.

Charlie is cute, though pretty obviously only puts up with best angles with the best filters, and is also devoid of charisma. Though he could do better than Bash. not sure what face card they are talking about with Bash in that picture though.

R337 It's just passive aggressive shit that Bash is 'finally' getting someone that is worthy of him, unlike Joe.

R339 I think that was someone else? Anyway, then the girl who wore a Joe shirt too. Those last few days of that play I still wasn't a full on Bash anti, but seriously couldn't watch the train wreck of fans talking about Joe. There was another fan who talked to Bash about how he must be happy Joe is going to be home soon and said his reaction was really weird, but she didn't think much of until a month later.

R342 she was the Lego person but ended up not giving him the joe one, just the one of him

My bad. Confused them with the IG one.. Bash might might only have 5 stans, but they are all fucking weird and old randomly.

R341 I say it’s hilarious but honestly that must be hell. Imagine going through a rough breakup and strangers come up to you and start talking about your ex.

R339 yeah she did, she also had one of Joe to give him, but since the breakup was out, she didn't. I think it was for the best, because with how petty Bash has been, he might have thrown it in the trash

R344 It's what he deserves and judging by how Bash fans act about Charlie, they were the ones being weird as fuck about Joe and Bash. They've already planned like 3 vacations for them, expected Bash to be Cali by now or Charlie in London and had a whole ass fanfic about how they were spending Charlie's birthday together alone camping in Finland.

Though the funniest comment lately is them wondering why Bash isn't being recognized much in public lately. I'll let them think about what changed and maybe they'll figure it out.

R346 Not getting into this because DL used to be very unhinged about their relationship too.

R347 Oh I agree, not saying I wasn't though now I didn't just transfer my unhingedness to another guy either. I am not taking anyone any of the cast dates seriously anymore.

Anyway, back on topic, freshly stolen from LPSG. I personally think we should all share in the Joe in a hot twink agenda.

And y'alls favorite boyfriend pictures by Kit

hadn’t seen this before, i think its recent no?

R351 Looks old. It’s pretty chilly right now.

Warm and sunny in London the last few days .

But no idea about the pic and if it is old or new

It's pizza day with Joe and Tobie

R354 what?

R353 it's from June

R349 we thank you for your service

Yep same day as one of the holy triad of twink lovers (older Navy guy at DC Pride and Self Portrait Guy being the two others) was all over joe for a fan pic

I‘d be surprised if they had time to walk around London during the day at this point. They‘ve been so inactive on ig, guessing they’re actually working.

there us a ysl beauty event today in Paris, wonder if Yaz will make an appearance

R164 Sorry, who is PFW?

R361 Not who, what. Paris Fashion Week.

R349 this wasn’t acknowledged enough. He’s so so fucking hot. I want to throw his perfect body around and fuck him

So Joe and Kit have been less active in the last 2 days on Instagram, but not totally inactive. Both liked Jenna Coleman's post yesterday, for example. Tobie's been about as active as usual, same with Will. Definitely leaning towards Joe and Kit working mostly together right now.

I think it’s insane that Kit didn’t get a big role out of the show. Yaz got Doctor Who and YSL and Joe got Agatha. And this is not about who is more deserving. I think they are all talented. For how much we bitch about the show, it’s still a huge phenomenon. It opened the door to new opportunities for all of them. I’m just surprised his team didn’t get him something big yet.

Joe and Yaz both did more TV and Kit did movies, I think they just want different things for their careers. Did laugh at YSL being included as a "big role."

R365 it’s all perspective tbf, leading an interesting artsy independent film and then leading a west end show is a fucking crazy good outcome

R365 Having a Tony- and Olivier-winning producer pursue you and then work with you to get you on the West End is bigger than a handful of Doctor Who episodes to me, but YMMV on that.

YSL with its three Instagram posts. Will never stop asking what the fuck happened there.

Agree with R366 that they probably are after different things. I’d also add that the strikes have put the break on most announcements for 3 months. Kit’s Indie horror could be a break out. The production company sounds really interesting and Kit is so talented. On the surface it does seem like he hasn’t picked up as much work but I’d say he’s probably got a lot going on behind the scenes

Fuck - West End. I totally forgot about that. Can’t wait for that announcement. Shakespeare (potentially) is a fucking bold move as his first adult theatre role.

And yeah, if Doctor Who is more than a minor win for Yaz I’d be surprised.

R366 Yaz did say she could afford her 3 bedrooms, London flat with the YSL contract so I assume it is a big deal.

Wait, who's going to be on the West End?

I'm paranoid so I just want to be clear, I'm not an asshole that values movies over TV or anything like that, I mean they're probably auditioning for different things. Kind of like how KIt's done more voiceover work than the other two, assuming it's something he really enjoys and might pursue more than Joe when looking at projects.

R372 Kit, word on the street is that he's working with David Pugh on a production of Henry IV.

R371 It's not really a role at all though, is it? In that case you might as well throw in Kit's relationship with Jonathan and Loewe/JWA, he must be making bank for every event he pops up at.

[quote]Following a lengthy audition process, during which more than 10,000 young actors submitted themselves on tape, the executive producers and casting department settled on Locke, a fresh-faced newcomer from the Isle of Man who demonstrated a clear hunger and passion for the project, and Connor, an established child actor “with an incredibly gentle energy,” according to Lyn, to anchor the adaptation. “They did the scene from Charlie’s birthday in the bowling alley when they’re in front of the claw machine,” Lyn recalls of their first in-person meeting and chemistry read. “That was the one that really sealed the deal because you could tell that the tension and the frisson was there between the two of them.” But it wasn’t until Locke and Connor shot a scene in the series premiere — in which Charlie and Nick are “in this deserted schoolyard looking at each other saying goodbye, and neither of them wants to leave” — that Lyn remembers breathing a sigh of relief. “Nick isn’t yet fully awake to how he might feel about Charlie or what this attraction is, but he knows he’s felt something,” Lyn explains of the scene he was most looking forward to bringing to life. “I wanted dusk to be falling so that there was a sense of magic and change in the air, and I was very nervous about it because it’s the first moment that you really feel the bolt of electricity between the two without anybody else being there. When I got the cut of that scene, I knew that these two were star-crossed lovers and destined for each other.”

R375 He’s not been announced as a partner or ambassador though, as he? If he does then I would consider that a big role too.

R377 He gets a check every time he's in the FROW, which I thought was the metric we were using since Yaz paying for her flat was mentioned. And he's gotten much more press coverage through his appearances than Yaz has through the YSL partnership. Regardless, neither is an acting role.

Yeah, Kit’s relationship with Jonathan has been way more fruitful than Yaz’s YSL ambassadorship.

I don’t think Joe and Kit aren’t pursuing particularly different things tbh. Seems like both are being careful about their careers and interested in both screen and theatre work. I know some people may disagree or dislike marvel but I think wiccan is an amazing get because it will almost certainly be one of the better written and developed marvel characters. I think both will end up getting phenomenal movie, tv, and stage work but they’re so young rn they have a lot of time to get to it

R378 I used income as a exemple but it’s more the fact that she’s an official ambassador. That’s a big title. Same with her campaign with Tiffany and Co. It’s not an acting gig but still a huge deal to have that on your resume. And I’m sure she got it because of the show’s success. I was just wondering why Kit doesn’t have something like that/or a major acting role coming his way but I guess we’ll see.

R376 euros is as always the most eloquent and best of the adults at discussing the show. Love hearing what scene they auditioned with. The arcade scene makes a lot of sense, would be really easy for Nick to go maudlin or Charlie to be dismisssive, or for the long silence of Charlie looking at him to be awkward. But they both played it beautifully in the show (and Joes big dark cartoon eyes were perfect for it) so I’m sure they nailed the audition

About campaigns, agreed with others about Loewe/Anderson but also it’s just easier for women to get that stuff, the beauty and fashion market is bigger and more profitable for them and more importantly (and tbf due to sexism) very much based on youth, while most clothing and fashion campaigns tend to prefer older celebrity models or at least not super young. K Pop stars aside because that’s a recent phenomenon to capture the Asian market, looking at high fashion dior signs Jennifer Lawrence at 22 and Johnny depo in his 50s. So Yaz getting a campaign makes sense both age and demographically speaking. Same way men basically never cover Vogue or BV

R376 pretty much the most insightful thing and interesting things I’ve read about the show. The audition is such interesting background and that is an underrated moment. That quote about Kit is going to send the girlies who believe he’s their next boyfriend absolutely wild (and is also why Nick is such a successful character imo - Kit brings that energy). Get the impression from all his limited interviews that Euros could talk about their chemistry for hours

R384 agreed — there’s a quote one review said that stuck with me that said Kit’s tenderness and Joe’s sweetness made the characters work and I think it’s so true.

Kit’s campaign feels so inevitable that it’s kind of not worth splitting hairs for me, but as always YMMV and I don’t want to curtail the discussion.

R385 yeah, I don’t care what any Twitter girlie says, shitty line drawing Nick is a wet rag of a character and, as written, S1 live-action Nick is kind of a one dimensional muppet. Kit and Joe are what makes those characters. The promo where they swap characters for the arcade scene demonstrates how terrible the dialogue is.

R387 agreed plus I think the one true thing Alice has ever said that I agree with is joe saw not only a shyness in Charlie but also a certain confidence and playfulness that makes him work. Like without joe infusing his little flirtiness and banter and the physical body language he and Kit chose to do, Charlie would be a nervous wreck who is almost impossible to watch. As is you really see his appeal and why Nick is so lovestruck

R388 Idk how some fans prefer the comics to the show. Nick and Charlie are insufferable.

I guess it depends on if the person prefers to project themselves onto what Alice's written (the comics) or to watch what Joe and Kit do with the characters (the show). The fandom is generally kind of weird so I'm not surprised a lot of them prefer the comics.

Personally could barely get through the Webtoons and have only glanced at the pages that have been posted here. I know there is at least one poster on here who was a baby gay at exactly the right time to be a fan of them beforehand and quite a few popular tt guys who are into them too, but I’m deeply suspicious of the people who post here with strong opinions about them tbh.

Looks like we have Joe's next Marvel project lined up. Vision Quest is being changed into Children's Crusade. He would be a lead on this aswell. This is a WIccan story.

R392 Agatha being described as a comedy is interesting. I can’t wait to see how Joe plays Wiccan. A shame we have to wait another year.

R392 Better not interfere with Broadway.

In other news, SAG-AFTRA and AMPTP start negotiations on the 2nd.

R392 Tommy can't catch a break in any universe

And smart move. I like Vision, but he's just kinda there to spout wisdom at people and isn't all that interesting.

R393 Comedic Timing was a main requirement on the Wiccan casting. We all know Joe is funny, and looks like Marvel agrees.

Joe as a Lead with Elizabeth Olsen, Paul Bettany and more, what an insane career.

R392 never ceases to bore me when the bros pop up in those comments to say ‘something else we don’t want’. Seems like what they want is the Chris’s, Tom Holland and RDJ to keep pumping out the same old shit - that they would then hate on for being stale. I can’t figure out what would keep those MCU dickless man babies happy

R398 just a bunch of incels

R397 I generally get and understand the marvel hesitance some on this forum have but I think Wiccan stands to be one of the characters they invest most in and will have some of the best writing and opportunity to show range, so I’m excited for joe

I’ve only glanced at the comic but it’s a pretty big story for Hulkling too, right? In a supportive boyfriend role. If Kate Bishop’s central, I reckon Hailee and Joe would bounce off each other pretty well. her Kate Bishop is also pretty dry

R400 thinks mainly most are positive here. Im a big MCU fan and have always been excited for the power twink Wiccan. When I found out it was Joe I was pumped. Marvel (Kevin) clearly has a lot of faith in him.

Yeah Hulkling getting attacked and Billy freaking out is what kicks the whole story off.

As someone that's more negative than positive right now on Marvel, even if Wiccan flops Joe's still in his "fuck around" acting years. As long as he's done with Marvel by 25, when the good parts start opening up for him, he'll be fine.

R403 I feel the same way with Kit. Even if he doesn't book something big after the show, he's still very young and has a lot of time.

R404 100%. At the end of the day, they're still building up their acting skill sets and the things they're doing will allow for that. Hell, we've even seen it already from one season to the next on Heartstopper.

I think Joe looks cute with the short hair but he should absolutely consider growing it out and hiring his heartstopper MUA as a full-time hair stylist.

R406 joe is gorgeous always but Sophie is amazing with him. Honestly I think non white stylists who actually like and appreciate his hairs texture instead of close cutting it and gelling it like crazy are the key

[quote]That was the one that really sealed the deal because you could tell that the tension and the frisson was there between the two of them.

I need them to work together again on something with a better script in their late 20s or early 30s.

R397 Not directed at you but just generally, I hate the thought of Joe working with that creep Bettany. Haven’t been able to look at him the same since those gross texts about Amber Heard. I know it’s inevitable that as Joe gets more established he’ll have to work alongside actors and crew with questionable personalities but it’s sad Hollywood is so full of them.

People whining that YouTube reactors don’t understand the nuance of the comics (what nuance? The show is better by a mile) so say things they don’t like, we’ll don’t watch them then. Most reactors I have watched are good and appreciate the show for what it is. Plus; there internet babies, since when do they pick up a book? (Myself included)

R410 Honestly, that’s a tired argument. Since when do you need to read the original material to understand the adaptation? The show should be able to stand on it’s own. And season 2 was a mess for the most part. I saw so many reactions where the reactor was getting impatient and irritated while watching the second season.

Love the loyalty from the Scarlet Witch update account

R412 the reddit nerds and the scarlet witch account always surprise me with how positive protective they are towards Joe, at the beginning i figured it would have been the opposite.

In other news, the Loewe attendees are arriving in paris, ERK posted his Loewe gift bag

R412 Hate that they have to do that. The fans are garbage, I've seen no actual engagement in serious conversations on the issue of Jewish representation. It's just been non-stop abuse about what Joe looks like.

This is a bit of a random comment triggered by a couple of things. I saw a TikTok of Galitzine from RWRB walking down the street with a girl who he looks like he's dating, and it's crazy to me that he's played gay, what, 3 or 4 times and there's been no backlash to him being straight and taking on these roles, but Kit faced all of the abuse he did for a single role and when he never said he was straight (and had been flagging as queer as early as the This Morning interview he did with Joe). Obviously there's some nuance there, like Alice and co. setting Kit up with the whole accurate casting shit, it's just something that I find insanely irritating to this day.

R415 I mean I don’t think anyone is going to disagree with you that the shit Kit faced was completely absurd, unfair, and unacceptable

Random sign of life from Joe, he liked this post from yesterday.

R415 And the fact that he was 18?? Was it really necessary to harass this kid over his personal sexuality? This will never make sense to me.

R414 it’s especially hilarious because not only is joe gorgeous but the whole point of Wiccan is he’s sort of thinner and weedier than most heroes and his powers are not physical. Them trying to stick some brunette chiseled jawline 200 lbs of rounded muscle 30 year old playing a teenager into the role is bizarre. The diehard comic fans all pretty much think joe is a dead ringer for him

R415 I think what happened with Kit helped prevent it happening to the RWRB guy. Even people who don't know or care about Heartstopper have heard about Kit's forced outing, and it's brought up almost every time people start speculating about a celebrity's sexuality

Forgot how nice he was about bash’s first run of the lizard shirts

R421 It was his boyfriend’s charity. Joe supports his people very openly and loud. One thing I really like about him.

R421 Joe and Kit shilled the fuck out of those shirts. They're the only reason they became synonymous with the show.

R423 they did but joe especially went above and beyond. Not denying Kit wearing it at pride helped a lot and was really nice btw, just saying that I already consider to be exceptionally nice and helpful. Joe posted it on twitter, IG, I think a second time on IG, wore it on TV. Bash is so ungrateful

Is it just me or does this look like it doesn’t fit with the other covers?

This cover is awful

R425 It's all of the negative space, I think.

Charlie looks bigger than Nick in this picture. Alice can’t draw.

R426 It’s so bad. Nick’s calves look weird.

All the other covers followed the same theme of them standing next to each other so yeah it looks kinda off

People calling the little sparkle spicy sparkles.. I dread the discourse on twt if they ever get to the sex arc on the show.

It looks off because the others all have them standing with each other/horizontal, they look off because they’re sitting.

Also, it makes it look so much more angsty than it actually is.

R431 That made me cringe. I prefer the blooming flowers in the show to that, please just do fade to black in the shoe without the ‘spicy sparkles’ lmao

Is Alice trying to imply this kind of vibe with he cover? Because it looks like they’re supposed to be crying or something.

She needs to retire the animations for the show. With the way Joe and Kit look it comes across as childish.

R434 A comparison to the last scene of S2 would make more sense to me.

sorry for being disruptive but I fucking love the cover, Charlie straddling Nick is hot and has the vibes of the content

And the sparkles are about the sex moments

I don’t mind the cover, I like the colours but I think the ocd part of me hates that they’re sitting (Pin Charlie up against a wall instead Nick!) Also, Joe and Kit will make it look alright so we’ll cope with the ‘spicy sparkles’ lol

R436 Someone did that too but I can’t find it now

I think the animations have to stop after the I Love You as things get more serious and mature.

Heartstopper Twitter fans and the ‘Don’t sexualise them, they’re innocent gaybies’ , ‘shut up about the pillow fort’ to ‘HORNY SPARKLES!1!!1!’ pipeline.

R441 She will 100% add heavy dark clouds when Charlie tells his parents about his ed and we won’t see anything like when Darcy had her fight with her mom.

The legs being cut off for this collage actually makes it look so much better. Defo the empty space as someone else said.

R444 You also can't see NIck's funky calves. I like it there.

Bash employing Charlie to make the graphic for the new queer was always here thing

Charlie is actually very very talented which makes it so obvious that he put 0 effort into that graphic

I'm not rooting against a charity, but good luck with those sales at this point.

R446 Actually, good for them. They are supporting the art and queer artists. I won’t shit talk too much.

The post having 300 likes and 9 comments after an hour (including one from Bash, one from his mom, 2 from Bash fan sites, one from a Heartstopper fan site, and one from the producer of the thing) is insanely bleak.

Does bash ever write words or is it emoji only

apperantly the author of acggttat is going to be spilling some things about the movie adaptation at an event. like girl im pretty sure you dont know much but sure

R452 She’s gonna reveal that it’s going to be on Netflix (shocker!)

Voting is now open for the TV Choice Awards. Chance to vote for your favorite Heartstoppers.

[quote]Does bash ever write words or is it emoji only

"Gay" doesn't count? (from his IG story the other day)

R454 They’ve won multiple of these awards and have never said anything. I don’t think the cast care. Maybe Tobie or Brad.

[quote]I think the animations have to stop after the I Love You as things get more serious and mature.

Charlie was in a pretty bad place for a lot of S1, and they used storm clouds & the like during those times, so I don't see why they wouldn't continue as-is. The show's not getting that more mature anytime soon. One of its main points is being a legitimately "wholesome" series that even younger teens can watch. S1 had literally *zero* cuss words! (and I think S2 only had a couple of "bullshits" - the only F-word on this show was S1's one use of the word "fag," and it was correctly depicted as a hideous homophobic slur, with Nick getting full-on furious as a result)

But seriously, it's been two seasons and they haven't even gotten to second base yet. I'm assuming they'll either "do it" offscreen, with zero specifics as to actual acts performed, or they'll save it for the series finale, similar to "Love, Victor."

R456 They shot a 5-second video when they won Best New Drama, maybe Netflix would make the actors record something if they won.

The fandom is already hating on Kit and Maia’s new movie now that we’ll have news soon. They are saying it’s cringe and the book is bad. As if heartstopper is above those things lol

R459 The book is unreadable. For once they aren't wrong.

R459 The real issue those fraus are having in particular about this one is that they're mad that there aren't two boys kissing for them to fetishize.

R460 I’m sure it’s bad but coming from them, it’s pretty hilarious.

Interesting that Cori commented about missing her. You‘d think they just saw each other recently if there was a table read recently

R463 Could just be pre production stuff before the table read. Usually, table reads are the last thing on the pre production schedule.

R463 that is interesting but idt Chetna was there for the s2 table read either? Seems to be characters in a certain number of scenes or with a certain number of lines. Charlie’s parents also weren’t at last seasons table read but Tao’s mum was for instance

R465 Fair, she has a small part and if I remember correctly there isn’t a whole lot of rugby in volume 4 anyway

Joe and Kit seem busy, whatever they doing. Though Kit did like Alice's Vol 5 post and Joe liked Lego's last post, both in the last few hours. speaking of him, I like how his teenage sister is less attention whoring than he was about his birthday. She seems like a nice girl.

I’m really curious what season 3 will be about because it can’t all be about Charlie’s ED. And they don’t have a fun school trip to add some plot.

R459 You made me go look into the drama and half the fans are saying they don't care about this movie and the other half are saying if you don't care about this movie you are biphobic and racist. Never mind that Maia is not even Cuban, but hstwt never misses being dumb either way.

I wouldn't mind Kit being a love interest to a woman if the woman could act and the story was actually good.

R469 They talked about the Cuban representation but that’s such a lazy argument. Not one of them knew about this book and now they’re worried about her character not being cuban like it means something to them. Being this critical of this movie when you’re a heartstopper stan is comical.

i mean people can just be honest and say that they are going to watch because Kit & Maia are hot, like its a shitty romcom there doesn't need to be all this discourse for nothing really

R471 Again, it’s not the fact that it’s a “shitty romcom” (which no one saw btw so idk why people have opinions already) but it’s saying that with your whole chest while stanning the show.

R465, table reads can be weird in terms of who's invited. I assume Charlie's parents weren't invited because they didn't have much going on last season, unlike Nick's household. OTOH Tao's mum didn't have *that* much screen time.

R470, agreed but OTOH I'm wondering if this has anything to do with Alice insisting on expanding the show's queer representation so much in S2 (the trans couple, more focus on the lesbian couple & their home drama, Yasmin deciding she likes pussy, etc.). Pretty sure London's Cuban population is microscopic, but I wouldn't exactly be surprised if they insist on adding a Latinx character of some sort - hopefully from Spain or someplace realistically close to the UK.

But yeah, the fraus aren't happy for the usual reason: thinking hot queer guys are 'unattainable' (nvm that Kit's bi), but then seeing the opposite onscreen, like it's somehow weird for a queer actor to play a straight character.

No one asked but I can’t help myself. I have little interest in watching a straight romance that’s centred on teens, but I’m as open as the next homosexual to a bad romantic movie. My feeling is that the movie is just going to be a nothing. If it’s hammy or stupid I might enjoy it. If it’s good I probably wouldn’t watch it at all except that Kit is in it. This was my problem with RWRB it wasn’t bad enough to be good (though Uma Thurman’s accent did push it in that direction). All of their whining when half of them watch that Summer when I turned Pretty show just smacks of biphobia really. They’re not above watching shit tv they just don’t like the idea of Kit kissing a woman

R474 In my days, fans would just watch anything their favorite actors were in. Even if it was bad. Oh well.

Honestly though even if it’s dogshit (TSITP gets clowned constantly especially for the acting), I think the same thing will happen as with TSITP. If someone (in this case Kit, in TSITP case the main girl) still turns in a good performance, it doesn’t reflect badly on them. People get roles are limited for teenagers, and doing your best and a good job with garbage material and opposite weaker actors doesn’t hurt you. So worst case I still think Kit will be totally fine

R475 as I said, I will probably be watching because of Kit.

R476 I’m sure Kit will be good. I’m genuinely interested in the chemistry as what Kit and Joe have is truly rare. Ashamed to say I did watch that All the Boys movie and those two really sold it out with their chemistry even though it was very ordinary.

R477 at least the first one of those was actually quite ok, like the chemistry was there and Noah wasn’t insufferable yet

R477 agreed, I think what makes HS work is a combination of genuinely fantastic acting AND genuinely fantastic chemistry from joe and Kit. All the Boys had fine, not amazing, acting but fantastic chemistry; some movies and shows have great sting but the chemistry is there. Daniel Edwards killed it finding those two, especially Joe as a total novice, to play opposite one another.

This is cute. Joe does pull off the cozy knit sweater look very well

R478 I didn’t even attempt the other ones. Everyone was talking about the first one and like I said straight teenagers aren’t my genre but a friend kept recommending, I took one look at Noah and realised why. Very cute guy. Shame everything he’s done since has been unwatchable. Shows that chemistry can really carry a mediocre performance

Saying this as a Latino that mostly grew up in Miami, the Miami Cuban rep in the movie deserves to be released. They’re all MAGA Republicans. Good riddance.

Tobie is at the theater, with his mom, I think

ERASED, not released, Christ.

R478 Noah sounds and looks like he's doing a Mark Ruffalo impression whenever he opens his mouth, it's unsettling.

R480 I'm going to have that Sweater Weather song stuck in my head for the rest of the day now.

If you haven't yet, give this video a stream in the background. It's slowed down in views. Two of the TikTok videos on the British Vogue account are doing pretty well, the Cartier ring clip (320k views, 35k likes) and the Kit sunglasses clip (273k views, 63k likes).

Kit’s in Paris, that celeb stalker account tweeted the hotel he’s at.

Nice. I don't expect him, but guess there are two shows Joe could go to this weekend. I'm sure filming hasn't started yet, though seems like they were doing some kind of pre-production work.

R486 oh that makes sense, i was wondering why the info account said he was in paris

It was weird the way people were insistent he was there days ago. It takes a very short amount of time to get to Paris and he doesn’t go to other shows anymore - he’s pretty clearly got some kind of contract with JA. He could always make it for a night of they weren’t actually filming yet. I’m sure they’ll take it as some kind of win for their insight

R486 oh good. We’ll get more photos with that same group of fans that creepily sit outside his hotel when he’s there.

i mean at least we will get more photos of him tomorrow looking hot, we can at least thank jw now that kit is one of his faves we hopefully wont see him in shitty outfits anymore

R489 They're stupid and terrible with pattern recognition, Kit always pops up the day before in whatever city the show is.

Apologies for the weird fan account. Is this new or some kind of edit I’ve not seen before?

R492 90% sure it's an AI edit of an old picture.

R492 its an edit of a photo from last year i believe that was in London

R493 thanks. AI is really fucking around with my ability to see the difference (unless hands are involved). I shouldn’t feel this old

R495 It's always in the little details, the sleeve and that red thing in the background are what tipped me off. Here's the original.

Random but I really wonder how rhea is going to treat joe in person

I’m assuming she’s going to act like nothing happened.

R497 i mean i don’t think she would be outright negative but maybe she just going to pretend nothing is going on or just not go out of her way to interact with Joe

R498 I mean she’s pointedly ignored all his posts, made that weird hot girl summer comment to bash, and is the person in the cast who has most obviously picked a side. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if she was actually cold or passive aggressive in person

R500 I could be wrong, but she strikes me as the kind of person who acts up on social media but pussies out in person.

R501 true. Wish joe wasn’t too nice to just call her out on being a freak though I know his professionalism serves him well.

Still think it’s hilarious she’s riding so hard for bash and he doesn’t give a fuck. She can’t get a follow from his Dino account, or even an invite to hang with the unwashed, let alone a finland invite.

R501 Especially if she’s doing it to stay in Bash‘s good graces. Not that he cares about her but unlike on social media, he won’t see her interacting with Joe on set. So it wouldn’t surprise me if she acts like nothings going on in person

Bash liked Maia's post, what's behind that? are they friends?

They were all in York at the same time when Kit and Maia were filming their movie and Bash was filming his. They seemed to hang out a bit (presumably when Maia and Kit came up for air).

R505 yeah, i know that, but I thought he'd never liked her posts before, but apparently he did

R506 He‘s certainly being more consistent about it atm

R506 gotcha. Few newer posters who don’t know that level of unnecessary shit the rest of us do. Thought your question was from one of them. He’s liked her stuff on and off but he’s been pretty consistent recently.

48-hour Instagram update:

Kit was at 6,190,182 on Tuesday, 6,198,748 now, gained 8,566 followers (boost is up by 14%).

Joe was at 4,262,114 on Tuesday, now 4,264,655, gained 2,541 followers (boost is down by 34%).

Kit'll probably hit 6.2M tomorrow.

R509 easily as there will be hot pictures from the Loewe show. I cannot understand the lack of big bump Joe got for his birthday post and Kit’s birthday story. I can’t wrap my head around it at all

R510 yeah…. i think at this point i’ve just accepted that the disparity is what it is unfortunately.

R511 I think it’s more that those things usually get him a bigger bump. I guess he should have used an unseen photo of he Kit and Will. I’m pretty sure I care a lot more than he does

I’m a little surprised that the In My Bag video didn’t give him more of a bump.

Homophobia is sadly very alive and well. Even funnier that the fandom decides everything that could possibly be construed as an insult or some form of phobia is the worst thing ever but when joe literally has 2/3 of kits following they’re silent.

Honestly, it’s not even the comparison that is frustrating. It’s that he’s not generating it himself (shitty pr, lack of promotion from the straight fans, whatever else) and there seems to be an uptick in hate again on Twitter and now tt. He’s just living his life. What’s so fucked is that the hate is started by arseholes who at least know who he is (for engagement or that they hate he’s kissing Kit or whatever else) but they get so many likes because homophobia is alive and well and it’s just a great way for bigots to pile on a gay guy. It isn’t 50k queer people agreeing with some jealous ugly twinks hate tweet, it’s 50k homophobes they’ve encouraged.

It’s not helped by fans using their own queerness to hide behind. Being a bisexual woman is not the same as being a gay man, and they seem very capable of grasping that when calling everything that happens ever clear biphobia from the gay community (true in the case of kits coming out for sure, less true for many other things they fly into hysterics about) but ignore the way they treat and talk about joe being pretty clear homophobia. Apparently only biphobia exists. It does and it’s good to call out but they seem incapable of grasping the idea that someone besides Kit gets hate, aside from sometimes when they realize it’s a bad look and throw out a tweet about Yaz getting death threats. On joe though, radio silence. Crunchy Frau literally hosted a space where she was sobbing over kits insecurity when he replaced his tooth but tweeted that joe was so silly and funny about his comment that he normally thinks he’s a dead cow in pics

R516 wait the space was a real thing? i thought that was a joke

R517 sadly not.

R516 she is, quite simply, a total cunt. She borders on homophobic frequently by repackaging it as biphobia.

R519 her saying with her whole chest once that the most hated group in the queer community is bi people when trans people exist had to be one of the most batshit things I’ve ever read

Was just rewatching my favorite black mirror episode for the first time in years and it shocked me when it ended and directed by euros lyn popped up on the screen.

Not to mention that the experience of bi woman and bi men is VERY different. I don’t want to speak for bi men as I’m not one and I’ve never identified a poster here that is but I also don’t think a bi woman should speak for them, anymore than I would try to speak to the bigotry experienced by lesbians. It’s not all comparable experiences

R500 She didn’t do anything. You guys are insane with this imaginary Rhea beef. And either way, she’s irrelevant.

R522 My friend works in research and it is actually Bi women who face the most mental struggles in the community. They are also some of the highest people at risk of domestic violence. More than gay men, bi men and lesbians. I was shocked when she showed me the articles but it’s true. Of course, that doesn’t take into account intersectionality but still.

R523 She actively avoids liking Joe's posts even when other cast members make post at the same time, but sure it's imagined. Though I don't think she's gonna do anything. She'll be hanging with the random side characters since she's not part of the clique of Tobie, Will, Joe and Kit anyway.

R523 I think you’re insane for insisting a clesr pattern of behavior is coincidence but ok. I suppose Amybeth, Emily Carey, et Al all mass unfollowing is also imaginary? What is your issue with admitting people are dicks to joe?

The rhea beef is imaginary, Joe being under appreciated is imaginary because he has more followers than Edvin and Omar, Connor being a dick is imaginary, etc. interesting how all the shitty things that are imaginary are shitty things happening to joe!

R524 not downplaying what bi women face at all, but I’d be curious to see the rates of domestic violence for bi women versus straight women — I wonder how much of it is just being women who mostly date men, sadly. Not saying most bi women aren’t bi, just demographically it is more common to be bi dating the opposite sex for demographic reasons

R527 I bet Rhea will smile and hug Joe like nothing happened because all of this is only on social media. Also, she is not relevant. I don’t know why you are so worried about the terror she will inflict on Joe when she will most likely have 1 to 3 scenes next season.

Not to get in the way of the blow up, but R524 that’s really interesting. I’m also surprised. I would have thought bi men would have suffered more from bi erasure tbh

R529 yes the question “I wonder how rhea will behave on set” is me predicting she will turn the whole cast on joe and create a reign of terror. If you’re allergic to idle gossip on subjects other than the very rigid set you like (so NO GOSSIP that ever says ANYONE is unfair to joe) this may not be the place for tou

R531 I get that things are slow but The Rhea situation will always make me laugh, I’m sorry. Of all the things to mention about Joe not being fairly recognized or treated, she is very very low on that list.

R530 I will say while bi male friends get a lot of shit, which is super fucked up, the way my bi female friends are fetishized to their faces is absolutely insane. Men on first or second dates already asking for threesomes, saying it’s not cheating if it’s with a girl, asking to watch, shit like that. The point I was making above about crunchy Frau wasn’t meant to downplay biphobia, just to say they use being bi as a unique experience when it suits them but then like to emphasize the queer community as a monolith when it means they can ignore their own homophobia or the homophobia joe faces

R532 then don’t comment? Sorry it’s really fucking annoying that you like to be preachy and call everyone insane for gossiping on a fucking gossip forum, Jesus Christ. If anyone was flying into hysterics about how she’s gonna make the workplace hostile and turn Kit against him, sure, call us all drama queens. Speculating about whether she’ll be cold in person or fake in person is literally just gossip.

The holier than thou shit when someone mentions a topic you aren’t interested in is so dull.

R534 I will comment when you make a situation that is based only on perceived hurt, a grand thing. All she did was not like posts. She didn’t make any comments or anything. I guess I’m genuinely asking why are you relentlessly bringing her up? I understand if you don’t like Imogen and it’s part of that but all of Bash’s friends have done far worse. Why is she the ultimate culprit?

R533 nah, I probably shouldn’t have done a Reply. My point was very much my own and not implying that you were saying biphobia doesn’t exist. I’d still say bi men and bi women have different experiences but I probably shouldn’t implied men had it worse off. As a gay man I’m in closer proximity to bi men and what they face seems fucked up

R528

[quote]Despite this similarity, bisexual women experience higher levels of intimate partner violence than lesbian or heterosexual women. Over their lifetimes, 61% of bisexual women reported being raped, assaulted or stalked by an intimate partner, compared to 44% of lesbian women and 35% of heterosexual women. In contrast to lesbian and heterosexual women, bisexual women also report higher levels of severe violence, such as being choked or slammed into something hard. [...] Explanations for disproportionately high rates of IPV among bisexual women center around their sexual orientation. Some reasons are shared with others in the LGBT community. For example, modes of controlling behavior that include threats of “outing” a bisexual partner. Other explanations center on anger and jealousy are specific to their bisexuality, including perpetrator bi-negativity and assumptions about bisexual infidelity.

R535 She's the only one Joe has to actually deal with. Nobody freaking thinks she's going to bully him on set, but she can fuck off.

R535 I’ll actually engage in good faith to answer the question seriously: she is the only one on set with joe and thus it is actually interesting to me. If Amybeth or Emily were in the show, I would ask the same question of them but since Joe is unlikely to take a role in “Geek Girl” or appear in two scenes of Stranger Things, it’s much less relevant.

Additionally, idk why you keep ignoring this when people mention it multiple times to you, but She did make a comment. It was actually her hot girl summer thing that had people first say “that’s kind of weird and comes off bitchy to joe”, and only after that did people realize she’d ignored all his post DC breakup posts while liking and commenting on bash’s immediately and liking things posted right at the same time as joes, so clearly not a social media hiatus,

R537 thanks for linking. That’s fucking awful. I know how high rates of domestic violence are generally but over 60 percent is appalling.

R537 Jesus Christ, that’s terrible

R540 I think it's also telling that Rhea and Kit aren't at all close even though they're frequent screen partners. He's such an affable, go-along-to-get-along kind of guy so it's reasonable to believe that there's some reason he doesn't interact with her much. He gets along with everyone so I wouldn't be surprised if she's a bit of a bitch.

R539 Yeah, her comment was a bit bitchy but it’s similar to the one Olivia left on Joe’s holiday post. And I don’t think Olivia would act cold if she ran into Bash on the street (who knows). But I get that you were just talking shit to start a conversation so I apologize. Also, fun fact: Olivia is a pisces (just like Kit). Maybe it’s nothing but it’s funny to see because Joe seems to get on very well with her.

R543 well firstly, Olivia’s comment was “so handsomeeee”. If her comment was hot boy/hot girl summer it would be different, and if rheas was just calling bash handsome I wouldn’t have seen it as shady to joe. Also I think rhea is much closer to the situation than Olivia, to be honest. Even if Olivia “took sides” or was weird to bash, which tbh I would find odd and unnecessary, she met him once. Someone who has known joe for over two years, has known him just as long as bash (so bash wasn’t her friend first), and is actively still working with joe is distinct and interesting, which is also why I bring her up more than say, Amybeth, who would be lucky to be in filler seats of events Joe is front row at at this point.

I get your overall point that people can be dramatic and as I said if anyone was making dire predictions that she’ll successfully turn tobie and Kit against him, sure, call us all insane. But honestly speculating, now that they’re actually heading into s3 filming in the next few weeks, about what rhea will be like does not call for all that.

R544 I’m pretty sure she commented something about how “he was winning” but I don’t have proof. I think I saw someone here mention it.

R545 she deleted it if so, because I checked his comments to reply to you as I couldn’t remember what she’d said

R545 Who, Olivia to Joe? Because that'd be impossible given that the handsome comment is the only time she's ever commented on a Joe post.

Ok I checked old posts and I think you got confused. Someone said “ Olivia Rodrigo has just commented on Joe’s post - he keeps winning - as he should!”. The “he keeps winning” was not her comment, it was the DL user saying he is winning by having olivia comment.

R548 Oh, my bad then. Forget my point. R544 It’s almost like Bash not liking Kit’s posts but apparently they are still friends and on good terms. I find that weird but we also don’t see everything. I don’t think she’ll do anything in person to Joe but you are free to disagree. I understand where you’re coming from.

[quote] It’s almost like Bash not liking Kit’s posts but apparently they are still friends and on good terms

citation needed

R549 I mean look I think we have to agree to disagree on this because I do think when bash skips liking or interacting with Kit shit it is often because he’s pissy at him. But again, agree to disagree.

R551 Agree on that. But then you have Kit doing a story for Bash’s charity and liking his love post with Charlie. And Joe still liking posts of Rhea. Mystery. Moral of the story is Kit and Joe are very chill and unbothered people.

YMMV but I think because Joe and Kit are as chill as they are, the main thing that is or could be somewhat telling when it comes to their social media activity is frequency of commenting and posting (and any chances in those habits).

*changes

Very long article but the author is a gay man and he makes great points about Charlie’s ED and why it was only brought up to make Nick look like a perfect boyfriend. Good read.

lol an entire paragraph complains about them wearing hoodies in bed. The Ben takes have my dying laughing, the last thing this show needs is any more time spent on Ben. Charlie is my favorite and I want him to have more focus in the story, but damn does this guy just ignore the existing Charlie scenes.

R555 I don’t disagree that Charlie is written as a very nick centric character but I disagree with how one note his take is on Ben, and I say that as someone who thinks twitter is comically shallow and unforgiving of Ben. One of the rare things I think Alice does right is to show that being okay with your kid’s sexuality isn’t where the buck stops on being a decent parent. Nicks father still doesn’t give a shit about him, and Charlie’s mother is still harsh, judgmental, and clearly embarrassed by him, even if not because of their sexualities. Painting it like everything is sunshine and rainbows for them and Ben alone faces shit is weird. Also the whole “ because Charlie won’t forgive him he can’t have any queer friends” — don’t think you’re entitled to be friends with the friends of someone you assaulted, sorry. Also this is just nitpicking but while I think some of the stuff he says is interesting, like Ben needing to be cartoonishly evil so people don’t draw parallels in how nick treats Charlie, I’m a bit irked by him acting like the acting of the romance and kissing was sterile. Critique the plot and the writing all you want but joe and Kit acted the hell out of it, especially given how weak the material for joe was as he said, and their chemistry and hotness were so on point that the chastity is unbelievable.

R555 I can't believe I just wasted time reading that. This guy has no clue what he's talking about at any point (the bit about needing a memory and trauma trigger for Charlie's eating disorder to make sense because the bullying is in the past might actually be one of the dumbest things I've ever read about the way an eating disorder works). It's incredible that this guy hates Nick and likes Ben so much that he accuses Nick of "poisoning" Ben's relationship with Imogen and the way there is approximately 0 nuance in comparing Charlie's relationships with Nick and Ben is incredible. I resent this making me defensive about the show.

This is the first pro Ben article I've seen and I'm stunned.

R55 I ain’t reading all that bullshit lmao

Loewe stream.

Kits Loewe Look, he looks hot

Felicity posted Kit, pretty sure she's with him for once.

R562 & R563 Those arms are insane. And his hair looks great. I'm getting 1950s greaser vibes and I'm here for it.

Brady.

R565 i hate the photo this time, he looks super serious

R563 she’s been there for at least a couple of days with Archie Madekwe. He posted a photo of her yesterday

Kit was definitely taught how to pose, he knew to hit every angle so the photogs could all get a good shot of him.

Video of Kit arriving.

R563 The outfit is a bit boring but he looks great

Thanks for the videos.

I thought Rosie Stewart was behind Kit but it was someone else - any idea who please ???

Love this look for sure

R572 Rosie and Felicity are both with him.

It looks like Kit is a seat away from Ayo, hopefully they chat a little.

Guest list at Loewe kind of goes crazy. I've seen Luca, Ayo, Josh O'Connor, Jessie Buckley, Greta Lee, Ruth Negga, Lily Gladstone, Taylor Russell, pretty sure I saw Kris Jenner, etc.

R575 yeah Kris was there. Loewe truly is the it brand right now

Another video.

Every single outlet that posts Kit set to West Coast deserves a Nobel Peace Prize.

His arms and profile are insane.

He looks insanely hot. That is a sleeve length that not many men would, or should, attempt. His arms look amazing

Sitting with Ruth Negga, Lim Ji-yeon, Ayo Edebiri.

On the Vogue Thailand account.

looking at stephen bak like that, kit i know what you are

"If you try to air kiss me, I'm going to be a little upset."

I would fold like an origami at that smirk.

Joe receiving one of Lego's shit paintings instead of being at PFW, please shoot me.

Just checking - are we all ignoring Lego’s insta story of Joe about 15 minutes ago?

Kit and his love for Normal People again

Kit talking to i-D.

So Lego can’t even be trusted to take good pics of Joe? (He looks gorgeous always but why is it so washed out) also giving him an absolutely shit painting instead of buying him something nice. I hate him.

R590 Really can't overstate how shitty the painting is, it's the simplest shit on Earth and he still managed to fuck it up with the lettering and the color palette. I can't get over how much of a loser he is between his "art," how hard he tries, and the cigfluencers shit.

OMG that's awful. Someone needs to stage an intervention.

Need tobie to sit down with joe and say babe this isn’t you. Also need joe to put that painting directly in the trash

Interesting that this is potentially the first time they’ve hung since Lego got back from vacation. Unless it’s a delayed post ofc. I hope they don’t have any sort of getaway planned, I saw that Lego is not working till the 4th. Hopefully Joe won’t repost but tbf he most likely will

R584 context much needed

I just want you guys to think about the spike in sales Lego's brother probably got on his hair cream. And then I need you to think about the £0 Lego probably spent on that fucking garbage painting because it looks like a painted over, pre-used canvas and some old paint.

R595 I want to not think about either, it’s turning my stomach. Truly need no one to ever deny again that the online bullying took an intense toll on joe. Because he deserves a lot more than that loser

Anyway focusing on the positive. Kits Loewe look is fantastic, he’s so hot.

And while Lego disgusts me (and as an aside, I think it’s extremely tacky to post a gift you got someone even if it was a great gift which this isn’t) joe looks gorgeous as always. He’s really fucking cute

Poor Joe has to put that in his nice new apartment. Fuck that. I’ve been ambivalent but now it involves shit decor. He’s got to go.

Kit and Ayo talking, I won.

New thread.