Heartstopper

He’s hot

He’s hot

They’re hot

He’s not

op, the bitchy header is everything

How long until one of the idiot Bash stans on Twitter interprets the bitchy header as us wishing death on Bash?

R6 considering I wrote this one and also said he was probably on drugs in the last one, I presume they’re weeping and trying to contact MI5 or Scotland Yard rn

R6 i’d give it like 3 more threads tops or whenever jbc is boted

I’m usually pretty dismissive when people on here talk about how tired they look/are. But they are absolutely wiped in that Brazil video from the last thread

R9 Those couple of days were packed for them, especially that one day with the press junket. They spoke to a bunch of outlets, recorded all of these Netflix promo videos, and had the photoshoot all over São Paulo

Genuinely no clue what this fan is referencing. Or is she just being a cunt

R10 didn’t they say in something that they basically came straight from set? Wild. Hope Bash had a nice relaxing vacation while they did all of that

R11 I think it's referencing Joe being super into baking.

R12 Yep, they mentioned going to the airport straight after wrapping S2.

R11 she pretends to like him so she’s just setting him up and being a cunt. Imagine if one of them did something like that about Kit (that wasn’t an adorable dog of some kind).

R11 I don't think that is supposed to be an insult to Joe just random xD type humor

R16 got it thanks. I’m not even someone who gets super easily offended for joe, it’s just so fucking werid I presumed it was backhanded but you’re probably right it’s a “heehee he bakes get it” level humour

R9 Ngl they very much were giving siblings energy. I could honestly see why they said they see each other as brothers. I don’t see them dating. Sad but it means they are terrific young actors because you really feel it in the show.

R16 oh I didn’t mean she was being a cunt on purpose. Just that she is one.

R18 I easily see fucking with that kind of dynamic but tbh I don’t actually see them in a relationship ever. I just think they could have a lot of fun with each other (and they should just do it).

R18 ngl, I’m not dead set on them hooking up or fucking ever, but I think they were so wiped in that video they were giving no energy at all except trying to make it through. For the most part that weekend joe was a bit withdrawn which I now maintain was bash’s fault

Not this Sweet Home Alabama energy so early into the thread.

Dry-heaving at sibling energy, if we’re going to go down that road I’d prefer the ol’ “platonic besties” frau stand-by.

R23 They seem closer than friends but not on a romantic scale. In that video, they look like my siblings and I, bickering endlessly when we’re tired.

After that charades video Kit is full on projecting his competitiveness onto Joe, because Joe doesn't seem competitive at all lol.

Chile, anyway.

R26 Targaryen energy

I’m with R21 that they’re just not really giving anything.

R25 it’s the same with their buzzfeed bff test. Kit declares that he (or they) won but they were both pretty terrible - Joe being slightly better

To be fair, Joe barely seemed alive at that point but I’d guess they’re both competitive when it comes to games like that.

R18 I‘m always back and forth on that stand but it’s a shame we don’t get to see the current dynamic thanks to no promo. Their dynamic post Bash and the way Joe carries himself after all that would be interesting to witness.

R25 Joe was competitive in the BFF game but yeah Kit is pretty competitive here.

Im holding out hope for an after the strike random Young Royals like press tour. Kit and Joe deserve to talk about the show on some big stages.

R26 This thread not knowing what acting is is always funny

R30 agree. They seem to have a slightly different vibe post Bash. Still shits to each other but it doesn’t read sibling to me at all. Basically Bash was terrible. In case that wasn’t clear

R25 reminds me of the time they did that bff test and despite getting basically everything wrong, Kit kept insisting he did so well and was closer with some answers than Joe was

R33 You're right, I definitely think they're making out as themselves and not their characters. It's for sure not me hinting at the fact that their chemistry is charged in a decidedly non-sibling way. Unrelated, how many of you are from the American South on here?

R33 Its more admiration of their chemistry and improv skills then actually saying they are in love...

R32 I was holding on to the 91 day viewing window thing, but it really seems like there’s no end in sight for the strikes right now.

R36 I cackled.

R34 True, but also the brother comment was made post Bash.

R33 That’s why I’m excited to see them be love interest to other actors. I wanna compare the chemistry level.

Joe made the comment about not having the comfortability he has with Kit with anyone else after working with Miles, so I'm not expecting them to light the screen on fire.

R38 yeah, those WGA negotiations were a farce. Strike isn’t ending anytime soon.

R40 really interested to see Kit with Maia because they were actually fucking, which can either kill onscreen chemistry or ignite it further. Not actually interested in the movie so it will be a skip ahead to their scenes situation

R42 I recently watched a podcast with Maia in which she talks about fiction blurring with real life and falling for onscreen partners and how it’s something that happens on sets a lot. She mentions being great friends with her last on screen partner now, I‘m guessing that’s not Kit though? Idk their exact timeline

R43 If it's the one I'm thinking of, I'm pretty sure it was recorded before she left to the UK to record Cuban Girl's Guide because she was talking about still working on Do Revenge. Don't quote me on that, though.

R44 Thanks! It’s the cracking the copyright one from 6 months ago

R41 Im expecting nothing more than one or two scenes and a quick kiss for Miles in Agatha. I don't think he will have much if really any role in the show. I think they just want to really show Billy is gay instead of getting flamed like they did over Loki, Chavez, and Joe Russos characters.

R45 Oh it's definitely that one then, if you look at the description it says it was recorded in May 2022.

R47 Ah yeah that’s right! It happens to her a lot then lol but like she said, how would it not in a lot of cases..

Remember when Maia was doing interviews after she got back to Argentina and all they wanted to talk about was her relationship status. I just remembered how we knew it was dead dead. She did that year round up story and Kit was completely excluded from it. She must have been so over having to talk about him (don’t think there was any bad blood with him obviously).

R49 I remember because now I know too much about all of her open relationships.

Variety did a general story about the recent boom of queer media, there are a couple of Patrick quotes in there.

Dylan Mulvaney who recently befriended Joe just got a Broadway role. Taking it as a sign he's next.

Dylan is someone I know I would find insanely irritating in person, but she’s gone through so much shit that I’m just happy for her.

R51 Didn’t even know Dylan was acting. Damn, anyone can get on Broadway (minus Bash).

R53 I only know that she acts because one of the right-wing talking points about her was that she transitioned because she was a failed actor trying to get attention.

R50 Bros always catching strays as it should

R51 Is it actually official or just a rumor? Good for her, though wingnuts gonna now boycott Broadway shows and Cabaret as if they'd ever go. And Dylan is an actor who was in the Book or Mormon. She's got skills. I don't know the whole history, but think Covid kinda fucked over her in that musical.

R55 It sounds like she auditioned to be a replacement for the Sally Bowles part if the show goes on long enough. Not going to lie, hoping Joe is either originating a role or opening a show in a role, not being slotted in as a replacement somewhere.

Making a somewhat problematic link here but I wonder what Yaz has coming up next. She never sounds like there is another big thing other than Doctor Who, which was obviously in the can a year ago. Other than HS, YSL will keep her more than fed I guess, though has there been much action since she was originally launched? Burning a bridge with Ncuti, when he will need to be the one out there hyping the character, seems really foolish

R57 She’s best as a model/influencers. She can easily make enough money to live comfortably by doing the occasional brand deal on instagram and tiktok.

R57 I feel like I read a vague rumour from a Doctor Who site that she'd gone back and filmed for the new series, but that would have happened before she stepped in it with Ncuti so that might be it for her there.

R58 don’t disagree, that just doesn’t seem like where her ambition is.

R57 I don't think it was intentional, she's so so self absorbed. She also seems very obsessed with pretending everything she ever does is the most amazing life changing event in the world. I get some of that might come from what she's gone through, but she should chill out.

The fact that she had dumped the HS cast for Ncuti and then he basically blocked her is some funny shit though. I'm sure she'll still act and will probably get some huge role again for some reason, but see her being more into fashion/advocacy/modeling in the future

R59 yeah, I can’t tell if that’s real or if she’s just hyping her four ep arc like crazy. They have announced another trans actor in the season so it’s confusing. Pissing off The Doctor was a bad move.

R61 the way she hypes herself is kind of hilarious.

And speaking of Dr. Who, I'd be surprised if Joe doesn't play that character eventually or get considered for the role. Today I learned Matt Smith was the youngest Doctor ever at 26, even if he's looked 40 for the past 15 years. Still hot though.

The way every single interviewer (except maybe one?) has made a point to try to positively spin her self-absorption will never not be funny.

R61 Funny looking back at S1 because she asked Joe if they’ll be friends forever and now she’s barely hanging out with them, if ever.

R65 She secretly hates them considering she's keeping this event on her grid

R63 my understanding of Doctor Who is limited to new Who and doesn’t have any of the generational links the Brits do, but Tennant was somewhat pivotal understanding my sexuality ngl. He hit the screens at exactly the right time for me. Matt Smith picking up the baton in my mid teens was gravy. I hope Ncuti is that for a new generation of queer boys

Instagram update, last one was about 48 hours ago.

Kit 5,888,242 on Monday, 5,918,469 today (+30,227, boost down 24% from the previous one)

Joe 4,094,299 on Monday, 4,111,768 today (+17,469, boost down 32% from the previous one)

Will 2,310,902 on Monday, 2,322,190 today (+11,288, boost down 39% from the previous one)

Bash 2,114,605 on Monday, 2,123,891 today (+9,286, boost down 66% from the previous one)

Yaz 1,770,745 on Monday, 1,776,869 today (+6,124, boost down 33% from the previous one)

Tobie 871,409 on Monday, 876,829 today (+5,420, boost down 51% from the previous one)

Cori 651,534 on Monday, 654,784 today (+3,250, boost down 37% from the previous one)

Kizzy 879,164 on Monday, 882,107 today (+2,943, boost down 56% from the previous one)

Rhea 461,017 on Monday, 463,385 today (+2,368, boost down 18% from the previous one)

NOTES: Not much to say right now. Momentum continuing to drop. As previously posted, Kit and Joe both reached new milestones in the last 48 hours. We'll see how things go for the next couple of days. I could see Kit reaching 6M and Joe reaching 4.2M. To be determined.

R66 I think she still likes them a lot. Her bts with the second tier actors in S2 are really sweet. She seems to hang with a group of mainly trans girls (not exclusively) which great. Interesting that she is the most successful of them though. I think she probably likes that.

R68 a puppies interview could give Kit and Joe a boost again, you’d think. God knows what happened with that

R69 Knew it was happening, but gap between Joe and Kit grew with S2 by quite a lot.

R68 Joe could easily get to 5M with proper PR but that’s just me, maybe i’m wrong.

R69 honestly doubt puppy interview thing is happening with the two of them atm. they probably were just engaging with fans for engagement. Although the blue cross thing with Kit still has not dropped. It sounded like there might be a video with him and the rescue animals

I think if they had new interviews they would have dropped them already.

Buzzfeed UK is going to hell if there really isn’t anything coming because they absolutely were teasing new stuff on TikTok.

R72 another odd one. I guess it will pop up soon.

R73 the Netflix recycling content if Buzzfeed has some seems really weird. Also, the suspected Kit Vanity Fair thing hasn’t materialised yet. I have no idea how this all works, and Kit’s stuff has seemed pretty spread out. I guess as VF is an actual publication it will be in the next issue and the young Hollywood one (or whatever that’s called) has just dropped. Joe did like that Gay Times award announcement which makes me think Kit’s probably receiving one (or HS, but Joe’s a hype man for the cast so we’ll see).

There’s also the Hunger cover for Joe we’ve theorized about that might be coming, right? Did we give up on High Snobiety?

R75 genuinely zero shade to Kit at all, he deserves a lot of hype, but joe getting dust for literally being a marvel and Netflix lead as an out 19 year old is absolutely batshit. His PR is shit for sure but I also do think publications are for some reason less interested and it drives me insane

R71 it’s not just you. if there was promo for him or even more stuff he was in, we would have been closer to the 5mil.

R75 re Kit Vanity Fair might just be a fluke thing because wasn’t the vf young hollywood issue back in March? Although maybe he is included for 2024? One thing rhough i would have been absolutely sure he would have been included in the Variety one earlier this year.

R76 honestly i have given up on hunger & hs for Joe. if ots coming, its not coming anytime soon

R77 The reason they're less interested is because his PR is shit and isn't selling him. Look at what Public Eye has done with Will.

R77 its batshit but its his shitty pr. The marvel thing i can see them not really going into it especially with the way they are about secrecy so i don’t really hold that against them but will change my mind depending during promo next year. Kit drives clicks and engagement so i don’t really blame them for always going for him, just wished that publications paid attention to Joe too

R79 I mean that’s 9/10 of it but I do think there’s something more here, ngl

Prosper not having a legitimate website and shitty posting is batshit to me, like you are a pr agency. they need to start acting like it

R81 Only other things I could see it being is that either Joe himself doesn't want to put himself out there more than he needs to or that his schedule between the strikes and Agatha didn't permit him to do more.

Anyway, about 99% sure it's down to Prosper based on Tom Hiddleston's history as a client alone. He was everywhere for Loki, which was driven by Marvel and Disney, but I don't remember seeing him anywhere when The Essex Serpent came out.

R80 it’s interesting that even with so little help Joe drives a fuck tonne of engagement for the show (even by himself). Even with Will’s great press and significantly improved performance Tao didn’t really take much of a foothold. I think he did better engagement wise last season even. Agatha will be a different ball game though Marvel haven’t been as good with the shows as the movies, by a long way

R83 I didn’t leave the original comment but I think their point was more that publications are for sole reason just not interested in seeking Joe out. It’s true Will Yaz and Kit have the same crazy good PR, so I’m sure that’s helped. But from a strictly career basis JOe has publicly booked the biggest jobs, has an interesting backstoryF and should be really attractive to a fair few publications as someone who will likely be too big for them once he’s established as wiccan, and yet none of them are biting. It is shit and weird

R85 Tao and Elle's storyline sucked this season that's probably why

R85 I do think Marvel will crank up the PR for Agatha though, the cast is too fun to not try to do a bunch of promos with. They could get a fraction (which would be huge) of Barbie vibes if they do it right.

R86 the issue is he cannot say he is Wiccan yet. And Marvel isnt going to let him say anything more than he already has about the show yet. Marvel didnt even get to introduce him yet, which they would have at Comic Con this year without the strike. God could you imagine how crazy its going to be to see Joe on stage at a Hall H Comic Con panel, it sucks we didnt get it this year.

R89 that will be a fucking hilarious Hall H. Can you imagine Patti up there.

R89 sure but anyone following those shows worth their salt knows that’s who he’ll be. The same way publications are getting in with Kit now because they suspect he’ll break out in a big way and they’ll have gotten in on the ground floor, more than for his actual resume (which is excellent, same as joes, just saying bigger things are coming for both). I do honestly think part of it is that publications and frankly even queer media are more interested in coming out and less in being out. Kit aside, because I do think his case was special and distinct due to the actual bullying and queerbaiting stuff, Noah schnapp got a lot more fanfare for coming out that Joe did for being an out gay teen successfully rallying for political change and actually BOOKING jobs while out, which is huge. It’s a shame queer media awards at a minimum aren’t interested in him though. He really deserves attitude icon or gay times or something at a minimum

R90 We still have a chance next summer. I dont think it will be out till the fall.

I need to see the cast on that stage.

R91 I think if we get to see him in a Wiccan costume at least once, and a kiss between him and Miles, that they can run over and over, that they will be all over him. I don’t understand why they’re doing the bare minimum to cultivate their relationship with him now

R93 I get you and don’t disagree, just hate the extent to which joe is sort of shrugged off as no big deal next to his costars when he’s actually insanely impressive, doing huge things, and has a crazy, inspirational come up story and life

There is an element of Marvel fatigue and frustration that is out of Joe's hands to factor in. The coverage they've gotten in the media has been sliding towards the negative for a while now and the things they're doing aren't being met with a lot of anticipation or fanfare, especially compared to Phase 3. I'm interested to see how Loki press goes.

R95 fair dos but then career wise he’s on a similar playing ground to Kit, with HS being by far the biggest for both. Frankly even without marvel, him getting no bites would be insane and extremely frustrating to me. Marvel is just the feather in his cap that tucks the disproportion over to truly insane.

Anyway, Yaz is the breakout with her 4 ep Doctor Who run, obviously. Kit and Joe, who?

Trying to figure out who did what and I’m guessing that Entertainment Weekly and W Mag approached Joe, Rollacoaster was Prosper, and Teen Vogue and NYT were Netflix.

R95 I don't expect Marvel fatigue to be a factor for Loki or Wanda related characters. GoTG also did really well because people care about the characters. I also feel Wandavision/Agatha have their own fanbase outside of your typical MCU fans

R97 tbh I don’t even bother comparing Yaz and joe or Kit though because she’s a black trans woman, specifically. I don’t think magazines are commonly debating between a woman and a man for the same issue, especially with the intersectionality consideration. The reason I mention joe and Kit is they’re coleads, nominees for the same awards (yes, I know Kit won the Emmy over joe), white queer teen guys. But you’d legit think joe was a minor character and Kit was a sole lead base on the press they get and I’ve agreed with other that a bulk of it is his PR, but frankly, that cannot be the sole reason

R77 Don’t want to be combative but he’s not paid dust by publications. Comparatively to Kit, yes, he is. That’s why I’m interested in his career post heartstopper and I can’t wait to see them grow apart from each other. I think Joe is doing amazing as a first time performer and as an out gay teen. I don’t remember seeing a gay actor this popular since glee. Even the YR actors are not this popular. The disparity is the biggest issue and I hate that it seems to be a Kit over Joe situation for some publications.

R101 ffs. COMPARATIVELY then. A, I genuinely not allowed to want more for joe without the “well actualllllllllllyyyyyyyy” crowd (or actually, single person who repeats this ad nauseam)

R101 the way I would bet money on who you are without ever checking comment history. I do hope JoeS PR is paying you to insist he’s being treated well

Anyway, his PR should have done an anti-rich nepo baby angle with Joe since he's got a great story. And the UK acting world is full of rich ass kids have been handed everything in life. Though he might not have wanted to considering the ex was mentioned in one of those articles about his extreme privilege.

R102 Ok there’s no need for that. I tried to be veryyyyyyy polite in my response because I knew some would be offended. Me acknowledging that Joe is doing well (because he is) is not me denying the disparity. I even said that the disparity is the biggest issue. A lot of publications seem to think it’s a Kit over Joe thing when it shouldn’t be (they should all have the same attention by the media).

The comparative does matter because yes when 3/4 of the other people with more than 15 min screentime in the show are booking BV and his costar is getting guardian, numero netherlands, wonderland, New York magazine, perhaps vanity fair? And a few others I am missing and joe is getting …wonderland? And a few things Netflix lined up for BOTH, then yes, he is getting paid dust. Why would I compare him to young royals, a foreign show, and not his actual costars in his actual show. And as I’ve already said, a lot of it is his PR. there is just something more to it that pisses me off, and I don’t know why when this is voiced one person always has to pop up to insist joe is getting great treatment. Like genuinely what the fuck is the purpose

R95 there isnt Marvel fatigue for the Scarlet Witch part of the MCU.

R104 because it’s a weird thing you are obsessed with repeating over and over and I don’t get why you can’t just shut up about it when people are rightfully invested in and want the best for Joe. Like if every time you said something sucked for kit someone popped up to say “well actually he’s an Emmy winner and his PR is great and he’s top of casting lists so you need to always consider all those caveats”, I promise it would piss you off too. No one is denying Joe is doing well. He’s a fucking marvel star. But the coverage he gets is not fair in comparison with his colleagues or in proportion to how insane his career has been thus far, and that is the only point people make

R106 sorry, Rollacoaster, a worse publication.

R106 Comparing Joe to other actors not in his show is a weird take that makes no sense. Like before I'm pretty sure they said Joe has more followers on IG than some other Marvel actors. Who gives a single shit

R108 Why are you yelling at me R104 I just want to be shady and call out the nepo babies

R97 sorry, should have been clear (find my humour bombs here a bit). I was referencing the article about them all negotiating higher pay which listed Yaz as the breakout. She does amazingly well especially because of her intersectional disadvantage but I was making a specific joke. Sometimes I wish the use of emojis on here was acceptable (and not a flag of a troll)

R110 because I can’t type on my phone, should’ve been r105, sorry

Ah, fuck I meant to reply R100 - you’d honest to god think I had something wrong with me with frequency in which I do that

R108 and R106 Well, I’m sorry I don’t see it that way. I don’t think Joe would call himself “the luckiest person in the world” in terms of opportunities if he felt he wasn’t doing well in some capacity. I think both things can be true at the same time. And me pointing out the YR difference makes sense because Joe won’t be compared to Kit for eternity. He’ll have his own career path eventually and I was just pointing out that despite his shitty PR and the disparity, he’s doing well and I’m happy for him. But got it. Won’t mention it again. I really don’t mean to annoy people.

Ready to expose myself for being clueless, but how does PR work? By that I mean could Joe fire Prosper tomorrow if he wanted to or is it like a year/several months contract kind of thing?

R114 ok by that logic please never ever say anything about how the kit queerbaiting stuff was bad because now he seems ok with his coming out, do you hear how insane that sounds? They’re both very gracious and smart enough to know that however justified, complaining publicly doesn’t look good. I don’t expect to see either be frank about how shit some of their lives are. I remiss you Joe does not feel soooo lucky to be overlooked for Kit, as his recent tiktok comment shows. I’m sure he feels lucky for marvel and Netflix. I’m equally sure he doesn’t feel lucky that queer media pretends he doesn’t exist when Kit is there and that media overall ignores him comparatively. The comparison to another show is I’m sorry, nonsensical. The comparative matters. And you will never be able to convince me Joe getting a SINGLE COVER for a shitty magazine s2 is good even putting the comparative aside, that’s absurd.

R116 *some parts of their lives. I think the same is true for both in different ways: some things they’re very grateful for and appreciate, some they find painful and resent, but too smart and gracious to openly discuss the latter in much detail.

This thread really need new content. Though the dramatics from this morning regarding bad poems was funny at least.

R115 he's probably got a contract, but I'm assuming it won't last forever. I think he needs a whole new team minus his US agency, including a new stylist.

R118 honestly, I know Holly hypes her female clients more but I really like the way she dresses him. I’d rather he looked great with a stylist who didn’t promote him then have him wrapped in yarn the way he is in the Tudum clips

R116 Are you even reading my replies? Ok, whatever at this point.

R119 Holly is fine, though Joe needs both someone who hypes him and dresses him well

R118 We need a Joe post. its been too long. Yes I know we went six months without one, but he was feeding us well for a bit.

Yarn outfit was also not that bad

Speaking of which, i need that skimpy crazy string tank top photo shoot asap.

R120 yes and I strongly disagree with you. Are you reading mine? Stop having a Pavlovian response to people wanting the best for joe that makes you try to downplay it. “Ok, whatever at this point”.

R123 I hate it so much. Primarily because I wish they’d just leave him in that skimpy semi sheer tank

R118 I wonder if he will spill his whole UK team when his contracts are up. His PR are obviously shitty and his Agents seem mid. He’s clearly ambitious about his career and loves the fashion element. It can’t be over his head how things look (not even referring to how he feels about it). He’s analytical and smart as hell

Wondering who’s advice was it to go with Prosper in the first place.

Let’s unite behind so,ething we can all agree on, hating bash. 118 likes…

As always my cute aggression feelings for joe are insane

R123 no to yarn, I’m sorry. Yes to more exposure of his perfect twink body, little Marvel muscles and perfect skin, like this outfit. But the yarn is a no for me. A low stakes agree to disagree.

R125 Mate, I’m not downplaying. You’re clearly not understanding where I’m coming from so we don’t need to clog up the thread with this, hence the whatever/never mind.

R128 you’d think it would more be based on who he met and liked (and probably who his mum liked too). He may have thought going with two smaller-ish orgs would get him a more personalised experience

R129 his last two TikToks (relatively) flopped as well. But obviously big boost on the Insta post from his last couple. He’s a weird one (and sucks)

For those interested the Kit factor did lift the profile of the lizards a bit but they are still only at 12.4K followers and the Kit led post has 13k likes (presumably because every HS and Kit account out there was posting it 12 hours earlier). Even if the t-shirt sells good numbers the campaign or organisation or whatever the fuck it is, has flopped.

Obviously old but that ass on his tiny frame is insane

Ugh i cannot wait to see his tiny ass stood next to some big Marvel muscled heroes. Its gonna be so hot.

R63 very late but honestly I think he’ll be way too big for doctor who. Doctor who has been the star turn for basically every actor in it for a long time, I actually think Ncuti had a surprisingly big career when he got cast. He does seem to love the Whoniverse and RTD so I can see him taking a month to film a big role for a holiday special as a temporary doctor or companion though

He really is so fucking cute

R137 not that he was huge but I was surprised when Peter Capaldi did it too. I think he always intended to be a short run. Malcolm Tucker was pretty niche but still a pretty well known character. Doing it after Marvel would be something else altogether

Seems like tal met bel at that birthday party last night, which Joe does not seem to have attended based on attendees follows

I give up predicting things from social media after tobie's bestie didn't follow Joe, or the guy from the Vogue party but I don't think he went. That photographer friend of Tal's followed some of the same people. I don't even know who that person is. The whole group is so less than D-list

R141 I clicked through about 6 people to check my instincts but I think SOMEONE would have followed joe as probably the most famous person in attendance

I used to hate when everyone played ‘where in the world is…’ with them all (particularly Bash, because the answer seemed to be, not with Joe). But I’m truly interested in where Joe and Kit are. Did Kit go to Italy? Is Joe in IOM? Additionally, Why was Yaz in Edinburgh (I mean, obviously the festival, but it doesn’t seem her scene). Maybe I just hated tracking Bash’s movements but hadn’t realised why yet (because he was a cunty boyfriend)

R142 yeah, I looked at a lot of E list types Insta stories and while Tal is standing in a spot that means it’s hard to see who is next to him, I don’t think Joe is there

I never found a story where I could see Tal, though agree doubt he went.

R145 I’m too embarrassed to own how deep I went but trust me, I loooooked. He was wearing a red shirt

R143 I think the “where in the world” with bash was annoying because if he was with joe it was used as proof he was a great boyfriend. Not only was he not since he never visited him, but also an unemployed rich kid would hardly be boyfriend of the year for spending some time with his lonely boyfriend abroad.

Based on kits pic, looks like he’s at home hanging out. Guessing joe is finally back in London

R146 I believe you, just didn't see it. If Joe doesn't like tattoos tomorrow we can go back to the conclusion that Lego wanted forever with a rebounding 19 year old and Joe said cool it

Need Lego gone ASAP, but it is comforting that they don't seem to be together all the time and that Joe is living his own life. And that Joe isn't obsessed over him to the point of liking every Instagram post or anything like that.

R149 he did until two days ago. Figure he was busy more than them being on the outs though

[147] It’s funny with the -Bash never visited - story line. You might as well say that he visited him all the time so that Joe was not allowed to settle in on his own. The timeline guy in a previous thread recorded at least three separate visits before Bash started rehearsals.

Joe really brought every bit of jawline, lips, ass, pecs, talent, likability, intelligence, and actual activism to the relationship

R151 I checked your post history, not engaging with someone who insists it’s queer hate to think bash is a twat and who spins yarns about how they broke up due to joes daddy fetish. Go back to masturbating over bash and your kink for jawless assless men

R150 Nah, there were I think 3 or 4 reels he missed before this, this time is only really noticeable because they're two grid posts and they're in a row.

R151 There is one confirmed visit after he left in January which was in March. The rest was just speculation that we never got proof of since he wasn't ever seen. The fact that he and Joe were seen in Jan often and in March makes me think that's the only time he went.

R152 his side profile is truly awful. Also thought he had better skin than that

R151 I tell you what, I’ll engage with your nonsense when you learn to use the site properly

Both for metric and selfish reasons, I wish Kit and Joe had posted more on their grids post-S2 release. Their most recent posts are still getting likes and are their most liked posts overall by large margins.

Still love this pic. Joes skin and just generally his face are perfect. The sweats over jeans because he’s always cold is also so cute. Tobie is blessed to hold him

The timeline guy recorded Bash in ATL at 7-Jan to 13-Jan, around the 28-feb and 27-Mar. From April he had rehearsals at the theatre but he clearly worked from ATL, including recordings from a closet! The unfriendly interpretation would not be that he left his boyfriend alone but was jealous and didn’t allow him to be alone.

R160 still disagree with your bash defense but will note him recording fan shoutouts for money literally from the closet while joe is an out gay marvel lead is the best relationship synopsis possible

Small correction: the closet video was 18-Feb ( not 28-Feb). In an interview Bash said that his audition for HS happened in the morning after a late night return flight from Atlanta. I’m not sure what he did there at that time but interesting that here clearly knew the place beforehand.

don’t call him the timeline guy, it is disrespectful. call him chief JoeBash lore expert. his official title

R163 could be wrong but I think they might also be the MVP that said “is that same hoodie?” and cracked the break-up wide open. What a time

i still think it is a crime that Mikaeel Toosy is straight. unpopular op ik

r164 we do not deserve him, he is way too powerful r165 yeah you the only one in existence. move on

Another thing beating the competitive allegations is Joe driving that paper straight into the scissors lol

Joe’s larest insta story. everybody fucking get to dissecting it. i wanna hear every single opinion

r168 hear me out - he misses America

R168 fuck it. Nothing to go on there, except he’s scrolling the photos on his phone.

R168 He watched lowlights from the Republican debate and was reminiscing on how fucking stupid Americans are.

R165 He's short so it's not a major loss.

r168 there is nothing to dissect except he misses America and great sex and hates England and tolerates Tal

R168 He’s fondly recalling the time he spent with Kit in DC and NYC.

r174 the picture is clearly from Atlanta not DC

R175 come on mate. Not every joke needs a flashing red light.

R175 Sometimes I think I should adopt the tone tag shit the teenagers do on Twitter because the way some people do not get blatant joke responses on here kills me.

R177 right. I get my humour is a bit Australian so not for everyone, but sometimes it feels like those of us who are cunty and jokey have to constantly explain that we’re joking. It’s fucking DL - not everything has to be corrected, and 80% of what said is utter bullshit

r177 i have never been a fan of JoeKit shippers so do not generally do not find that shit funny. but still you have right to your opinion and humour

R179 thanks for your permission… are you kidding with this shit? It’s all fucking joking around. Shippers? bffr - We’re gay men saying two queer men should fuck in the most cynical way.

r179 go back to twitter

R179 Oh, you're the newbie that is an idiot and constantly asks questions. You've been here a handful of days and all you've been is annoying and humorless. We don't give a fuck how you feel about JoeKit shippers or anything else. Hope this triggers you.

R181 oh mate. I’ve been trying to keep a lid on this but do you know we can see that you’re having a conversation with yourself? You’ve replied to yourself as two people several times and it is killing me.

R183 To be fair, something you got another sassy insult you forget the first time.

R183 They’re doing what now?

R184 oh, I do that frequently. I don’t tell myself to go back to Twitter tho…

R164 No, hoodiegate anon and I'd never say Bash was in Atlanta without proof in the form of a pic or sighting so I wouldn't put it on the timeline. All respect the timeline anon though but I see no reason to give Bash the benefit of the doubt that he was there in Feb at this point in time given his behavior after .There are, sadly for us, a few lore experts here.

R186 Oh didn't realize he was actually arguing with himself. I thought you mean, he was pretending to be two people arguing with the other person. My man... please.

r187 what joe vs Bash’s ass ?

R187 They’ve done that too (being all three people). Their history is something else.

R187 that was excellent. You’re definitely a particularly high value contributor

[187] You are right that there are no photographic evidence of Bash being in Atlanta on the 18-Feb but the videos were long overdue stuff from the Con so unlikely they were recorded a month earlier. He could also have found an empty closet somewhere in the UK. There are surprisingly fem candids of either Joe or JoeBash fra ATL. It’s so different from Kit in London now. I’m not sure I see it as a defense of Bash. It’s a bit like going to university, then you don’t want your old flame to visit you every three weeks. It would be better with a bit of independence and build up new friendships.

r191

[quote] old flame

He was his boyfriend and someone was always visiting Joe every month. Don't see him telling Bash to stay away because he'd rather stress bake in his apartment alone.

I was only trying to express what I think would have been best for Joe. I don’t know whether it was Joe demanding Bash to come or Bash forcing his way or (more likely) something that just happened because they could. Bash has got a fair bit of experience of creating lasting friendships from previous productions. Maybe the dynamics at this production was different and he would easily be left alone in an empty flat.

R173 The dick must be exceptional if he’s missing Atlanta of all places.

R193 joe ignored bash snubbing him at the NTAs, posting about Kit at the emmys, the Olivia pap walk, and a variety of other shit, and said the way to his heart is of all minor things buying him coffee. Doubt he was exceptionally demanding.

R187 prophetic. Joe has a perfect little body

R195 OMG he's so perfect, need new photoshoots of him in slutty clothes

I’m the timeline annon. Good to know you appreciate my work. I remember at the time constantly thinking Bash must be in Atlanta only for him to randomly get spotted in London, or for Joe to be seen someplace super touristy without Bash. I included the closet videos in my timeline but am not completely convinced Bash was there. There are probably several empty closet at his sisters house.

I will not call you timeline guy again but rather Master Expert of JoeBash Lore. The shelves looks bit cheap for her house. Maybe it is recorded in the local IKEA.

r197 you should write a book on JoeBash lore

R197 do you have a link to that timeline thread?

Here you go. I made this in late June, so it doesn’t include the craziness of Pride and everything that happened after.

r201 is there a reason you specifically started from Jan 7 or just random ?

R201 I forgot that Bash got online long enough to post for Rhea's birthday but then ignored Tobie's a handful of days later, and his stans had the nerve to get mad at Tobie about not including him in his photo dump.

Because it’s the first date we know Joe was in Atlanta.

If you want more basic lore regarding December, I know that Bash tagged along with Joe and Kit to Brazil. Then Joe went to LA, Kit went to Argentina, and Bash returned to London (to audition for play and attend fashion event). Bash met up with Joe in LA a week later for Emmy’s, they also went to a play and the beach. Bash then returned to London and Joe stayed an additional week. Joe flew back to London in time for Bash’s birthday. They spent Christmas separately, each with their own families. But Bash was at an IOM house party with Joe’s school friends for New Year’s Eve. Lucy also posted a story on January 2nd of Bash walking arm in arm with Joe’s mom while Joe walked behind carrying a bag of dog poop.

r204 the beach goin in LA was the same one which posted on his NY celebration post, right ? Joe was there too i did not know that

R205 I guess it’s possible that Bash went to the beach with Will while Joe was busy working. All we really know is that they saw the Book of Mormon together two days before the Emmy’s, Bash was at the Emmy’s, and at some point during that trip Bash and Will were at the beach together. Will traveled with his sister and they were there for about a week doing various music and tourist things mostly separate from Joe and Bash.

I don’t think we know for sure that Joe was at the beach? I think there’s a more than decent chance that he was doing Agatha-related work (either actually shooting something, or fittings, or what have you). Maybe I’m forgetting something.

r206 is there a any proof that Joe was there ? i was following Bash carefully but didn’t notice anything with him & Joe until close to the Emmys which is still a decent amount of time. i could be wrong though

There is no evidence that Joe was at the beach. But if he wasn’t at the beach it’s because he was working. And Bash being at the beach with Will is at least proves he was in LA at the same time as Joe.

The only fan sightings we got that trip were JoeBash at Book of Mormon and sightings at the Emmy’s themselves. Joe was there for over two weeks and was definitely doing Agatha related work.

r209 thanks for clarifying because i thought i had missed Joe being on the beach. but yeah i agree he was most likely was in LA at the time since that was the only time around since they both has last been free

if only Wiccan’s spell’s colours would be pink too

When one of you roasted Bash on the HS subreddit and acted like you hated doing it

[quote]Just on a very superficial somewhat unrelated note, I've just been fascinated with the notion that Bash is conventionally attractive because I genuinely don't see it. His hair is really cool and he has big green eyes, but aside from this I don't see conventionally attractive...His nose is proportionally way too big for his face and he has a hanging columella, his chin is very small and his jawline is not defined at all which is obvious when you see his profile, his lips are very small, etc.

R212 No lies detected.

The only proof that Joe was at the beach is that Bash is an ass who would take a picture of Will and post it to use it to sum up his 2022 instead of his boyfriend who was there,, though otherwise he was probably working.

R214 I laughed at this. I lean towards joe maybe being there but since unlike bash he’s gainfully employed with a good work ethic, perhaps not

Jesus, the HS subreddits are insanely Kit biased. Like, a little less vicious that twitter but just unabashedly say they root most for him as he’s most passionate about acting (source…nothing), he’s head and shoulders above joe, and they wish they cut to his reaction in the Ben scene as he’s such a good actor. I don’t begrudge anyone having Kit as their favourite but that’s all ridiculous.

DJL stays posting scenes where joe is killing it, pics where he looks fuckable, or pics where he gives me cute aggression.

R216 yeah, i saw that comment your referring to and i rolled my eyes so hard at that. thats why i tend to stay with the marvel nerds over on reddit

R216 The obsession with making anything related to Charlie about Nick is pretty typical.. Basically some people wanted to make the Ben and Charlie scene about how Nick feels about Charlie instead of letting it be about Charlie. I'm glad they didn't show his reaction since Nick's reaction didn't matter. They'll do the same thing with S3 where they want to see how Charlie's ED affects Nick more than about how it does Charlie.

R218 like you can just click with and like Kit or joe more, it’s not that serious that they need to make it sound like he’s Meryl Streep, a film historian, and dragging Joe, the village idiot, along with him. You can just think one of the other is a bit hotter or funnier or a better actor. That said Reddit is truly Frau central so them creaming over Kit and refusing to admit it’s because they want to fuck him is typical

R201 THANK YOU! this is pure gold!

R216 The Heartstopper cast one is pretty balanced and mostly about Joe and Bash.

R216 The subreddit has the worst takes but so does Reddit in general. They're weirdly obsessed with woobifying and defending Ben

R222 honestly not really. If you look at recent or popular posts, and comments therein, extremely Kit dominated. I love Kit so I don’t mind seeing him get a lot of praise. But the comments about how they root for him most as he’s the most passionate about acting, and comments about how he’s clearly the strongest young actor were both pulled straight from the HScast subreddit, actually.

R212 Which of the 50 HS subreddits is this from?

R225 The regular one. Post was deleted because it said Ben was too hot and needed to be forgiven and they didn't understand why Ben liked Charlie since he's out of his league.

R226 damn that context makes me like the comment all the more. I’m generally fine with low blows at bash anyway but if someone is gonna insinuate he’s hotter than joe they need to be told the truth

R226 HeartstopperAO I should clarify, just the main one which is Kit obsessed and loves Ben randomly

Random but for some reason it struck me as so funny today that not only was bashs possibly only visit to Joe after January just a drive by weekend after spending 2 weeks with the monks and Billy, but also that learning to meditate with them was clearly useless as he had zero zen about his breakup and went nasty and nuclear. He’s as useless at meditating as he is at eveything else

The way Kit maneuvers Joe around with 0 effort.

R230 perfect match. Kits gym strength and joes teeny tiny frame. Plus Joe loves being picked up and makes it easy on everyone.So fucking hot

R230 Why has nobody asked Kit about picking up Joe or if he's easy to pick up, how it feels to pick him up, etc., etc.. I need to hear him wax poetically about it.

R232 the fixation is on Kit, so I’m sure Joe will at some point be asked how hot and amazing it feels for Kit to lift him but tragically not vice versa

One of these things is not like the others.

R234 I’ve given up on anyone but the gays realizing Joe is a fucking hottie but bash over will?

R234 Why do Brazilians love Bash. Defend yourself Brazilian people.

r235 they did not even include Will wtf

Racist (will) and homophobic (Joe) poll

R236 They love Bash and sometimes Will. I’ve seen some cry that Bash isn’t coming back for season 3.

this Dutch model with South African ancestry looks a little like Joe. nowhere near beautiful of course

r238 racist and xenophobic (Will)

R240 send that to Tal so maybe he’ll move on faster

R240 I kind of see it in the ears and face shape but I wouldn't say they really look alike

R242 looks at least 20 so too old

R249 I don’t think they look alike but they have similar face attributes. He’s very handsome.

R240 They don’t look the same but they kinda do at the same time. Maybe Joe can learn some posing techniques from him. Joe could easily look like a high fashion model.

r245 i feel the same. Joe needs to do a lookbook for Tom Ford or Marc O’Polo or Burberry maybe. he can juggle it with his screen acting career like Louis Partridge

Not to be too big a Joe Simp but I think he has such a uniquely good pretty/hot soft and sharp feature combination that I seeresemblances to other people but think he’s so unusually distinctly attractive

r247 there’s no such thing as too bit a joe simp. but i didn’t understand the second part of your sentence 😭

R248 that he is very distinct looking aside from mild resemblances from other people.

we needed more ass shots of Kit in the green dress pants

R234 oh yeah they are insane, will is definitely hotter than Bash

R250 We need more ass shots of Kit in general.

New (at least I’ve not seen it before) video from London Pride - Kit and Tobie dancing, Bash being his usual annoying self

always pisses me off seeing Bash with those two in particular but anyway ASS

Nepo Sam liked this for the Connor/Bash/Sam/Charlie true believer

Not sure which one in the group would be the ugly one. Not Charlie, though everyone else is fair game.

R253 UGHHH I don't want to remember anything from that day, Bash pretending to be so happy and touching everyone while ignoring and being a jerk to Joe

R250 at least the gay wardrobe assistant treated us well re kit this season. Joe guys got fucked. No ass shots

R255 bash is his main competition for Charlie so probably bash in his opinion

R256 I don't care that he ignored him, but he pretty noticeably got up in his space some times. It was uncomfortable as hell to watch. Netflix remains fucking stupid

R259 for me the ignoring sucked because he should’ve just stayed home if he couldn’t be civil especially since he clearly know Joe well, knows he’s sensitive and would be uncomfortable, Joe had tried to be civil (the likes for instance, lack of petty unfollows), and he’s the lead. If you’re going to be a child don’t go. But you’re right, the reaching into his spwace to grab kit and things like that was beyond

The ‘was Joe at the beach’ chat is one of the funniest things I have ever seen on here. This new frau who pretends to be two people really has this thread in a chokehold at the moment

R259 I blame Bash entirely, he did that on porpuse, but my dear Joe.... i think he still doesn't know his place, he should've prevailed and stood next to Kit, he is the lead for god sake!, but he stayed behind and let Bash monopolize everything

R261 This thread goes off the rails with no content. It's funny at least.

R261 it’s like people are genuinely worried for the village idiot. Sort of heartwarming

R261 I'm the freak who made the spreadsheet. Sorry for engaging with the frau earlier. Obviously there is a ton that happened after my spreadsheet ended. I made the list trying to figure out what actually happened between them (just from reading through all the previous DL threads) because I wanted to get a better sense of what was going on. After Pride, I no longer had any doubt about anything. There are a few things that happened towards the end of June that I didn't include in my list because I didn't realize their significance at the time. If anyone cares, Joe followed Tal on June 22 (the day before he left for PFW). Also the plays that Joe attended on June 27 and June 28 that are listed on my list, he sat next to Eric Kuhn at both shows. Eric was the UK producer of the first show and the former US producer of the second show.

I’m also pretty sure that there is two. One cant understand that we can see history and the other is such a weird babying Joe fan that there is just no doubt at all they’re a 40 yr old woman. Poor Joe, at least Kit gets the younger ones as well.

R265 feel free to run with it (and I do think you’re an MVP) but one of the weirdos has anointed you with that name

Don’t care about a Lego timeline but always up for Joe on Broadway watch.

r266 we can see history ? how ? i don’t see anything popup clicking on anonymous ?

R267 I’ll want a Lego timeline of the end once it’s clear they’re done

R268 buddy, if I told you it wouldn’t be as funny to look at yours

The usual group?

Another tweet, of course no one is specifying who from the cast.

Hmm, I feel like if it was Kit and or Joe, they‘d namedrop them but let’s wait and see, there will probably be pictures soon

Guessing they (whoever) went to the donmar. She also met Jack Wolfe who is in next to normal there

R271 I feel like it’s Bradley and co. Joe seems to be in IOM or away.

r201 such a twat. can't believe he got to fuck Joe

People are so fucking useless. If you won’t take pics. At least post full info

R277 I wonder what ever happened to old mate Twitter Matt. He was always following up for details (and obsessed with Kit and Joe being together - which sadly I understand more now)

R278 All the old fools who now seem wise before their time. The anti Bash troll and Twitter Matt.

R278 I’ve seen him on Instagram, he asks for Joe and Joe/Kit magazine covers a lot.

R277 All those "HELLO?“ comments couldn’t be more useless either

So, Kit must be incapacitated. He’s not liked, shared or commented on the Wasia Project, Your So Pretty post. Joe possibly also incapacitated as he would be a fair chance to share, definitely like, and possibly comment.

Kit doesn't always like their posts and Joe's not reliable at all in liking Wasia posts let alone commenting. Don't think he ever does. He was online and liked Lego's post not that long ago.

R282 I’m done looking into social media because Joe and Kit are too unpredictable.

Joe also liked Jonathan Bailey's post from 3 hours ago. As did Connor and Bash, who rarely like his posts. Next target to join their gang? He's employed and hot you two. He won't work.

R285 bash also left a cringe comment. He really thinks he’s a genius. Tragic.

WR283 and R284 absolutely fair. Thought as it was the film clip it would get definite hype but they are erratic as fuck. Re post Joe liked - sigh. I said I’d give up and yet here I am

Also neither will nor Olivia have posted it to their stories so easy to miss. If they posted it I think Kit and joe would’ve noticed snd interacted faster

R286 It’s so cringe. Feels like he’s fighting so hard to keep industry people in his corner. He stopped liking Olivias posts after she was seen with Joe.

R289 Like that person said above, the meditating for weeks with monks really did him no good. Wonder if he'll ever like her posts again or move on to Taylor Swift.

R286 feel like Bailey will land on the Joe’s side (if, as an adult with no skin in the game) he feels the need to take a side.

Jonathan Bailey will not take a side or care or know anything about it. I wasn't being serious at all. Just funny to see who Bash tries to woo while ignoring the HS cast

R291 I think bash has delusions of grandeur because Jonathan commented on his billy Walsh post. Which was clearly about Charithra, not bash. I think Jonathan will both root for the first out gay big superhero more and also see joe more at events, since they can both actually get jobs and have projects release in a timely manner.

Bash's comment on Jonathan Bailey's post is 20 times more pathetic when you realize there's about a 0% chance that Bailey would become friends with any of the cast unless he winds up working with one of them on a project.

R294 It's just weird a comment, like the kind of thing your aunt would reply on your profile picture on Facebook

R294 bit obsessed with his friendship with Ariana ngl. It had never occurred to me she would be a proper hag, but it makes sense. Realise off topic

Bash has very millennial/gen x humor? I never noticed before, but that explains it. And not in the old soul kind of way, but in the trying to be cool kind of way. His tiktoks don't look like someone from gen z either.

After he left the dumb' Waiting for Kit to comment' on Will's post I figured he was just mostly a bit cringe and is always a few months behind the trends.

And back to Olivia, that probably really hurts since Joe got a follow from Olivia's best friend. Olivia doesn't follow anyone, but she'd follow Joe if she did.

R297 I noticed he was chatting to her in the face post. Didn’t realise he had followed her. Fun

R297 Makes sense he’s bff with Alice and Connor then. Connor is at least really intelligent so he has something to distract the cringe.

R299 source for the really intelligent?

Do we even bother commenting on Bella’s Bash loyalty anymore? Or we just expect it

R301 it is comical that they’re dumb enough to have an issue with joe over someone who didn’t give a shit about them until about a month ago but yeah it’s expected. Best or luck to them in their career with that lack of common sense

R301 She's dumb and comes across as much younger than 19 compared to Joe and Kit, but I don't really care if she likes Joe anymore. It's not like they were friends. Assuming Bella will start liking Joe's posts again when the breakup happens.

God I get a migraine imagining Joe’s sensitive, sweet, effusive self (based on how highly he speaks of Kit, tobie, everyone in his life in interviews, he must be glowing in private) sending extremely thoughtful loving emotional texts to bash especially during their long distance and getting “🥺💗🏳️‍🌈🦋” back

R304 Bash is a bad texter unless he's having lunch with Joe after not seeing him for months, so that's more likely than you think.

R304 Joe seems so genuine and like he wants to keep his people close so now I think maybe Bash did the breaking up. Or they fought and Bash was the one to push it too far.

R305 also hilarious because Joe is an incredibly witty person and I’m sure a great conversationalist while bash is boring and dumb so you’d think he could at least be attentive

R306 the question for the ages, who broke up with who? Joe or Bash...

Billy’s dumb ass also commented on connors most recent post. Fuck Connor too btw. Aging terribly.

R407 Can’t imagine Joe would stay two years with someone like that. They shared their love for theater and Adele so he must be somewhat interesting. Yes, Joe was young but he’s not “entertaining someone stupid” for this long young.

I doubt he's completely stupid, but he does seem pretty boring and is obviously not as intelligent as Joe.

Those two used to get photographed all the time they were always doing the same boring stuff. I know Joe likes to stay in, but can't believe they were never once spotted going to a club or out having actual 19 and 21 year old fun. The relationship seemed stifling in hindsight. Good riddance.

R309 joe is lovely and very interesting himself but I think you overestimate how smart and well rounded a teenager thinks their SOs need to be

R311 Didn’t Joe say in his recent interview that he would go out all the time at events after filming s1? He would go to class drunk and hungover? I feel like Bash was the influence to go out.

Anyone notice that Joe turned off tagging on IG?

R310 dunno, guy doesn’t have the best self esteem. Doesn’t seem to have hung out with particularly smart or interesting guys post Bash.

R312 telling that Joe has been photographed hanging out in the vicinity of gay bars 100% more times since while hanging out with Tobie and Kit than the whole time with Bash (so exactly 1 time)

R313 I don't remember the drunk part at all, though he was talking about going to too many events, not actually going out on dates I'm assuming

R314 probably because of all the annoying Kit posts. R312 I guess for hooking up but Joe was already intelligent and passionate as a teen. Can’t see himself date someone boring for 2 years. I’m sure Bash has his share of qualities deep down somewhere.

R317 Most of the Kit posts are him and Kit in character or at events or doing promotion. I doubt he's bothered by those.

R14 amping up the privacy game

R317 honestly I doubt it. I do think bash wants to be more intelligent than he is so when someone smarter than him suggests something he’s quick to jump on it, though. Plus there’s a not inconsiderable amount of “cultured” things he probably grew up doing due simply to family money. So joe would suggest plays and bash would jump on it quickly, probably was familiar with museums, etc.

Poor daily joe Locke. They’re doing more than his PR is and he makes their lives harder

R314 yeah, he did it right after the cock story

Joe’s turned the tagging function off at least a couple of times before. We know what he’s like. Maybe it’s just volume

R322 maybe he was expecting to get shit for it. It’s either been ignored or people found it funny. Guess he’s always ready for the pile on

I'm sure he'll turn it back on, but something bothered him. Doubt it's volume when HS has basically lost all momentum

R320 He doesn't even try that hard since he can only name one book he's read

R325 that’s so true. Drop off is crazy. IG posts getting a quarter or less of the love. Even the Nick Nelson thirst has dropped right off.

R325 Maybe he was out and about in a very public space and took a precaution or something. Especially if he was with Lego

My guess is maybe he took a fan pic close to his mums home or his own apartment or something and for privacy reasons didn’t want that to be tagged in that

R326 honestly, netflix is so shit at promoting the season, they don’t even try to engage fans anymore, which would be crucial anyway but especially with these strikes. They’re not even releasing bloopers or any crumbs they have left from the basement. This week has mostly been dead.

R329 I have a suspicion that they have some Kit and Bash content they filmed on the basement day that they have (wisely) chosen not to release. Ever since the official, Bash isn’t coming back, announcement it’s like he wasn’t in the show at all. Bizarre, as a week before release it was like he was Kit’s colead those clips (in his own head)

R330 I think the same.

This kiss is hot. The intensity, Kits glance down, joes insane jawline and oddly sexy moles.

R330 yeah, they cannot possibly be stupid/oblivious enough to release those if that’s a thing. The float was already the worst call in history.

R330 There was for sure something if Joe, Will and Yaz did a video. I expected Bash and Kit's the next day. I can't imagine how bad the video must be if they didn't release it.

R332 Yes! Saw it too and couldn’t help but think how this "peck" is actually dimensions hotter and more charged than any eating face action in rwrb could ever be.

R330 Bash probably flirted his non-existing ass off and it would have been the opposite of good promo considering he’s not the main, as much as he has deluded himself into thinking he should be.

R336 or Kit mentioned joe and he had a visceral dismissive response as he did In their other videos

Don't know if anyone can corroborate, but before Joe turned tagging off there was a cluster of posts of old pictures of him with Bash that he was tagged in from random clueless fan accounts and I don't see those anymore on top of the obvious tagging being turned off.

R338 I did see some Joe and Bash pictures, but not sure it outweighed the ones with Kit by any means

Kit and Joe have also both been getting tagged a lot in random porn bot posts.

R338 Not sure if they were oblivious or just being cunts. Was tempted to drop comments.

R339 I don't think he untagged himself from any posts with Kit and I imagine those bother him less for obvious reasons.

the pics with him and Bash are still there from what I see in the tags. Kit's titties kind of drown them out.

And good lord, Joe was young when Bash swooped him up. I know he was 17, but he looked like a baby.

R326 This season isn’t really good. Kit and Joe did their best to elevate the writing but I’ve seen a lot of comments on Tiktok of people saying they couldn’t finish it. I don’t blame them. That plus the strikes, the momentum is basically over. They’re not in the Top 10 and not even trending on Netflix.

R344 People mentioned the reddit sub and I read the thread and about 75% of them weren't too positive about S2. I do wish the press wouldn't give the show such glowing reviews for everything it doesn't deserve. I'm not talking about that weird negative review, but some of the other American reviews actually mentioned legit problems that they could learn from. The only thing that sort of caught on is complaints about the lack on intimacy in the show, though Alice is never changing her ways there.

R343 yeah it’s kind of crazy to remember how young he still is given how much he’s done in the past 2 years and how mature he is, but he was legit a baby when he moved to London for HS. Not that 17 is old anyway, but he convincingly passed as freshly 15 in the show.

R344 aside from allowing Will and kizzy to show their huge improvement, literally all side plots were useless and they should’ve built out Charlie struggling and angsting alone instead

R322 Cock story?

The show actually did better this time around (at least for the first 3 weeks so far) than the first time around by a bit, but what I'm interested in is the completion rate. Might not be too bad based on the story leaked to the media about the salary negotiations, but we'll see. It does have to be really frustrating that the show is just left to die because of the strikes, though. There'll always be that "what if" in terms of how much better it could have done, especially with the two leads being stars now.

R347 From this morning. I don't think he'd worry about getting shit for it though. He's posted faggot on main twice, and someone's ass crack...and some other random shit.

With the stories about the pay negotiations this doom posting is once again pointless. Netflix is going to fall over themselves to get a 4th season of this show made. It costs nothing, and has two soon to be superstars leading it.

The costs of the seasons (minus salaries) should also go down after this one, 2 was always going to be the most expensive because of the Paris trip. Anything beyond 4 was never on the table regardless if Alice is to be believed, and I think if the situation was truly dire we’d see Alice and Patrick hyping up more on Twitter like they were doing after S1 before the renewal.

R346 it’s interesting re-reading that interview of the Editor. On second read it sounds like they had to work pretty hard to make sure the story was still centred on Nick and Charlie. Interesting when there are some pretty clear sliming down of storylines. I think Isaac probably had more time and Nick’s brother absolutely did. Sounds like it was way more stuffed and the version we got was took a lot of work to keep on message.

I hope they don’t spend too much time on Nick going to Menorca with Olivia Colman and focus on Charlie instead, wishful thinking.

R353 I think considering the timeline they have worked with in S2, Nick and Mum can probably have that conversation in the kitchen and not on a foreign beach, but we will see I guess

I doubt they will, it was only ever a couple of phone calls plus the beach scene and I think they’re pretty strategic in how they use Olivia. Beach scene is obviously the big thing, there’s no real reason to expand the trip past that.

R353 given how little time they get with Olivia i wouldn't worry about it. They will need to use most of her time on the talk she gives Nick on the beach.

R350 It’s not doom posting, it’s the truth. S2 is loosing all it’s momentum after 3 weeks and it’s not all because of the strikes. I do hope if the completion rate is lower than it was for S1, they’ll blame the writing and not the actors.

r357 with no clear sign when strikes will end and Alice’s tumblr posts, even a S4 doesn’t seem definite now

R358 The strikes don't effect Heartstopper...

They don't, but will have to see if Joe and Kit would be willing to sign on for a S4 while the strike is going on.

R357 lol its literally because of the strikes but okay. They haven't been able to market the show at all. If the strikes werent happening Joe and Kit would be on a damn world tour of talk shows.

Also Young Royals never charted and they kept that show going for 3 seasons. The non American shows are Netflix's bread and butter, they are dirt cheap and dont require massive audiences.

R357 they’d have to blame the writing. Kit and Joe had very little trouble with engagement (when Netflix were bothering / had new content). I realise I mentioned this just upthread so I don’t want to beat a dead horse, and won’t again, but Will barely picked up steam and if you consider how much Kit hypes him and how much better he was, it’s gotta be because his story with Elle was clunky as hell.

I really don't care about getting a S4 since Joe and Kit are destined for much better things. Though I guess it's an easy pay day for them.

I gotta admit, I skipped through a lot of Will’s stuff, unless it was with Joe or Kit. The woman who plays Tao’s mum seems really sweet but lbr, the character is written really one dimensionally. Yaz was better in the art school storyline than the Tao / Elle storyline.

R364 It’s going to depend on if season 3 is any good. I’m sure Kit and Joe’s chemistry will be amazing but I had to speed through a lot of scenes to finish season 2. If Alice doesn’t adopt or take in any criticism, I say let the boys fly high with more promising work.

R365 Almost all the side characters were one dimensional. David was a homophobic older brother with no distinctive personality. They had a whole new season and we didn’t learn anything about Tori (Jenny is one of the better performer). That imogen/ben storyline was useless.

Elle was annoying in S2 and she continues to be annoying in the comics. Good thing Michael is coming up so more stuff with Tori next season. I’m actually curious about Darcy’s storyline, something about the plight of young queers leaving home (if they’re going in that direction).

I’ve rewatched S2 over the last couple of days after having binged it on the first day .. and I still don’t like the storyline. S1 was a nice story about the bullied boy that finds love and a supporting friend group. In S2 they want to be open but all kinds of villains appear. You might pull through if you the most popular guy in school but ofcourse your boyfriend will be scarred for life. So many characters are one-dimensional and ED is shown repeatedly with plates of food. It feels like a lot of opportunities of digning deeper are missed.

The group people saw yesterday were Joe, Kit, and Tobie.

R370 the dream team

Hopefully when Will is less busy he'll rejoin the group.

And I will die on the hill that Tobie and Kit don't fuck with Bash anymore despite some extremely bare minimum liking of posts that aren't his and supporting a charity

R372 Agree. I don't think they're making Bash voodoo dolls or anything, but I definitely think they're no longer putting the effort into maintaining the friendship with Bash and it's dying off. Compare that to the fact that they're with Joe all the time now.

I’m stupidly charmed by the fact they’re hanging out a lot. It’s embarrassing tbh

Netflix could have prevented this by delaying the show until the strikes were over. but something tell me they want ir over as possible. like after Emilia Jones was in a Oscar Wining movie, it sealed the fate of L & K. Joe’s Marvel era will definitely make him a big banker Netflix is hoping to atleast be done by S3 then

R373 yeah, in less than two weeks, once is possible PR (obviously not actually), twice is a nice time, three times is a fucking pattern and Joe’s won hard

R372 yeah tbh I think Joe either just doesn't mind them being friendly to Bash (or sees the potential PR issues if they weren't), or at least has said fuck all on the matter. And i maintain something "happened" to turn them off in the weeks after Pride; Kit especially acted way different.

R375 Have to believe you're trolling at this point. Netflix milks the shit out of their cheaper international shows and you think they're going to somehow do that less in the middle of an American double strike, which is going to cause a huge vacuum of content, especially English-speaking content? That story about negotiating for S4 didn't come out of nowhere, either.

I don't think they hate Bash either, but I don't really think they like him all that much lately.

r378 no i genuinely think Netflix cared about it more than others, not because of the viewing numbers but because if the positive pr it brought for the or across the world. it got a pretty quick renewal for 2 seasons as well (quicker than YR) but i guess they’re doing it just like other YA stuff

r379 true probably. Joe has probably told Kit & Tobie whatever Bash did or didn’t do but they’re not gonna make their dislike of him obvious for everyone

r379 tbf, who would? unless you're as dumb as his unwashed friends, even if you liked him more than joe anyway which these guys don't, he's acting an idiot.

Wow, this thread got depressing. If there ever was a time I hope some of y'all are wrong, it's on this one. I'm just not ready to let it go yet. Too many good shows on streaming just get left for shit and I'm tired of it. This one is too damn good to let go of...yet. No matter how much both Kit and Joe are going to go off and be big stars. Maybe downsizing some of the ensemble and locations, as it doesn't really need to go as big as season 2 did, but I can't imagine it being all too expensive for Netflix to produce, given what they spend on a lot of other junk. I pray it gets a S4, at the very least. Hell, I'd even settle for an intimate Nick and Charlie movie.

R383 I honestly wouldn't worry about it right now. Kit and Joe are both really smart guys and they're going to make the best moves they can to maintain job stability during the strikes. Right now, those moves are signing on for one more season (with higher pay) and looking for projects that are unaffected by the striking guilds (theatre work). We've heard rumors about both at this point.

R376 We're up to 4 recent hangs overall that we know about, right? The day when they went day-drinking and Kit and Tobie took those pictures of Joe, the day the fan sold them out to Backgrid and they ended up on DM, the day they got pizza and went out with Fisayo, and yesterday?

R385 and that’s just what we have as evidence from the three of them. There is also Kit’s abandoned live with Tobie

Are there any geoguessr experts out there who has an idea where Bash’s latest tiktok is recorded? The boat shed with a lift, fairly big open water, no sign of tide, a camping area, no sign of other buildings. I was kind of thinking Norfolk but probably completely wrong.

R387 I think the first part (scenic view) is part of a stitched TikTok, only the part in the van is him

While it’s insane that this lunatic hasn’t been banned yet, I burst out laughing at this. “ Bash's 4000miles play will come to the West End this autumn, Kit will return to the West End in spring (?). Meanwhile Joe: Locke The jokes about this boy writes themselves. I have to laugh.” The delusion re bash’s play

R389 Who/where?

Jokes aside, I'm assuming Bash is filming something and didn't get a dye job and live in a van now. Though he hasn't followed anyone new related to work

[388] Yes, you are probably right. Silly me. #stitch..

R390 this moron

Well that answers that question. It’s our very own Bash troll

R389 I haven't heard even a whisper about a 4000 Miles transfer, but the funniest scenario would be Bash getting Doom Patrol'd again and the show transferring with him being replaced.

I seriously think that person's some reverse psychological troll who wants people to hate Bash

The way that we went from ‘these reviews are quite positive’ about three star reviews, to ‘so far of the West End it’s in another city’ will never not be hilarious. It really speaks to the level of cunt he’s been that we turned so completely

R396 we truly just adore joe and wanted the best for him because we all enthusiastically said his photoshoot was very 70s and queer instead of admitting the outfits were hideous snd he looked shit

R397 like total shit. First time I was really not vibing his attraction at all. Someone commented about how much he looked like his mum, as though that was a positive. I’ve got no idea but maybe Doula is an attractive 50+ woman, but it’s not something I’m looking for in a guy ngl

r396 I posted so many positive reviews. I deserve compensation Croft family.

R399 and you really tried to spin those mainstream media reviews are good. I was right there with you. So much wasted energy

R397 Between that photoshoot and the accent no wonder Joe dumped him

Meanwhile, I kept mixing in the negative reviews and you bitches kept looking for the positives in them.

R402 sigh - yeah, man, we know. You were really ahead of that game (by about 2 years)

R402 I remember the review that said it might have been good if Timmy wasn't replaced with Bash

Still cracks me up that some Bash stans were delusional enough to think Joe wouldn't get Kit in the divorce.

R405 look at that size difference. Hot as fuck.

r406 indeed. and that Kit’s smile. who needs OF Nick and or Lego when he’s right there ?

Sorry, as much as I'm not a fan of him for the most part, the OF Nick and Joe height difference was something else. As a Joe fan first and foremost I would be remiss if I didn't wish for someone at least 6'4 to throw him around again. Kit is hot though.

r408 you’re on crack if you think OF Nick is hotter than Kit. i love Kit & Joe too

Speaking of OF Nick, he liked Connor J.'s lizard shirt post. Not sure why he's still following him.

R410 no, what? That’s hilarious

Actually, hilarious probably isn’t what I’m going for. Fucking weird. He liked a post of a shitty friend of Joe’s, that not only refers to Joe’s ex but is about a collaboration with him… yeah, not cool

R408 I said he was taller than Kit, not hotter? And I need to see Joe with someone that tall again.

R410 He finds him hot. I don' know why people made up some story about how he followed him so he could DM him for Joe's sake.

R413 he literally followed him within the hour that the comments about he and Joe were made on Connor’s post. People didn’t ‘make it up’ - it was a pretty linear guess

Same slides?

R414 Guess I should say, that people thought he was solely doing it for Joe and would then unfollow him. Back when everyone was an OF Nick fan.

R1415 Probably though also probably everyone has them for filming much like the puffy jackets

R416 gotcha. I still think it’s a fucking weird post to like but YMMV on that

Well, I've been saying he's a weirdo for awhile for all the Kit posts his likes so glad to see people join the club.

R418 nah, I still think he’s fine. It’s just an odd post to like, but I’m not hung up on the couple of Kit posts on Twitter he’s liked. But honestly he’s essentially a hot nobody so I’m not going to fiercely argue my position

Slate wrote a piece about the rise of the bisexual male heartthrob, which you'd think I'd be linking because of Nick/Kit, but I'm actually linking it because of how hard they cooked Taylor Zakhar Perez:

[quote]The final entry into the canon of Bi Kings of Summer 2023 comes from the sublimely terrible Red, White & Royal Blue on Amazon Prime. Based on Casey McQuiston’s smash-hit romance novel, the film follows the bisexual son of America’s first woman president as he has a steamy covert affair with a British prince. Even Taylor Zakhar Perez’s somewhat bumbling and unconvincing performance can’t diminish the character Alex Claremont-Diaz’s lovely bi-himbo light.

r420 TZP was actually one of the very few good things from that movie. it was Nicholas who he should be describing like that

Not that he was necessarily great, but Galitzine was the only one who did any acting between the two of them.

R420 I honestly don’t even know what to do that article but TZP being called pretty but a bad actor is hilarious. I finally watched RWRB the other day and he’s just bad. It would be hard for the chemistry to get off the ground regardless, when he was reciting lines like an AI stand in

R421 Did we watch the same movie? TZP was yelling his lines the whole time.

Now that we’ve seen Kit and Joe hang out again, I’m certain Kit mentioned to Joe he would do the story about the lizards. Joe also probably texted Kit saying “i’m going to call out some of your lunatic fans on tiktok” before replying to comments on his latest tiktok. They seem closer than they were before the breakup.

R425 first part yes - I reckon Kit would have thrown it out there before he did it. Second part, I’m not so sure about - I think Joe is just that kind of person. I don’t think he would in anyway be concerned Kit would care he wrote a snippy reply.

another day, another Lego story that makes me wanna cringe out of my body.

R427 "You are my deepest a fantasy. Flower that never grows." Guy is a total loser.

Aydo Edebiri randomly bringing Kit up in an interview wasn't on my bingo card:

[quote]When I follow up with them later to make sure I identify them correctly, Edebiri tells me she doesn’t want to outright label herself. “Part of my refusal to identify is because I think what happened to that young actor on Heartstopper is fucked,” she says, referring to the Netflix show’s lead, Kit Connor, whose fandom forced him out of the closet to prove he wasn’t appropriating gay culture by playing a bisexual teen. “And I’m glad he’s out and happy or whatever. But it’s one of those things where I’m like, ‘Bro, this is not how we do progress. We are being worse than whatever you think the other side is. If you think this is a way to liberate people, it’s not.’”

*Ayo. still want that edit button, Muriel.

R427 you know those are all around his house. He did another one a couple weeks ago about how one day the person will forget his face and his touch, but it won't be today. I almost went blind from reading it.

And is nobody booking him lately? Seems to have a lot of free time. His post yesterday was from something he did ages ago

R429 I read a recent interview with Dino Fetscher yesterday where Kit came up, too.

R428 he just is. Also reality check: teenagers eventually do grow bro. R431 he needs to stop. And idk, seems busy because he only ever really posts about having maybe one spot left? R429 still making waves

R431 That post could not be any creepier given his dating history. For the love of God, someone get Joe the fuck out of there.

R429 I love her. And good for her. Still think it was like she says “fucked” that people were demanding to know. And he was 18.

It’s absurd to me that people can see gifs like this and whine that nick is supposed to be the clingy one who is always held. Look at joe. He is meant to be lovingly held and carried and thrown around.

R415 Congrats, some frau on Twitter liked your edit.

R436 That’s sweet but I’m with Trixie on this one. If i’m in a bed with my hot boyfriend, we’re gonna fuck. Sorry Alice.

R436 That is a good kiss. Perfectly made to be held. This on the other hand, would be so uncomfortable in reality. They must want him to be unable to breathe.

R439 agreed. let joe be tiny and cute and cradled. It’s how he and Kit operate irl after all.

Sorry OF Nick liking connors collab with joes toxic ex is fucking weird. The Kit related likes were a bit odd given he rarely likes joes shit, but kind of whatever to me, didnt take it seriously, but this is so weird. I know Joe is the best he’ll ever do regardless but need joe to upgrade to one of the many tall big dicked men who would happily take care of him in atlanta.

R427 Lego is absolutely not it. Thrilled that when Joe is spotted it seems to be with Kit and Tobie not him. Hasn’t been a photo of he and Lego in the wild since that first one of them walking

He's not famous so he could always be lurking in the background a la the Vogue party

Some of the comments under this post make me want to pull my hair out, thank God Ben and Bash are off the show.

R443 Laughed out loud at the idea of Lego being pathetic enough to hang out with a group of teenagers that are close friends with each other, thanks for this.

Maybe they’re cooling off a bit after joes mum got the chance to tell joe in person she was weirded out by a 30 year old being all over her teenage son

I mean hanging out with young men seem his style. I think more than likely he's not hanging around with the three of them, but you never know when a wild Lego will appear. I've lost trust.

R445 Honestly, I don’t see it at all! Like Connor somewhat passed and didn’t look too out of place hanging with them, despite his age. But Lego is a full blown millennial with his own social circle.. I think they’re more likely to hang with his friends than Joe's. Imagining him with Joe and Lucy already doesn’t track but a whole ass group of teenagers, I certainly hope not.

Yeah, I could maybe see them at the same event or something but I can’t really imagine Joe shoving him into that dynamic in more intimate hang-outs. It’s different than his relationship with Ben, where that relationship was forming at the same time as the friendships with the rest of the cast.

I said Ben when I meant Bash, I’m still mad about the Instagram comments.

R450 not scrolling through all that but the majority seems to be hyping up Charlie with only a few comment sympathising with Ben?

R451 that’s what I’m seeing too. Honestly the one that really passed me off is one that singled bash out for praise while not mentioning joe. Some moron, clearly.

R451 It’s not about the volume, it’s about the shit they’re saying, like how Charlie owed Ben grace.

R452 clearly. One of the 5 twt Bash stans. R453 Yeah, was to be expected though, sad for whoever thinks like that really.

R453 Part of it is Bens awful storyline this season. People are recognizing that he’s a teen dealing with internalized homophobia but Alice did a poor job exploring that. Charlie is not the one who should show him grace.

Joe should upgrade from whatever Tal is to this French hottie

R456 any particular reason other than you saw this guy and think he’s hot?

This really is cute

R456 He kinda resembles Joe in a way.

R458 Tangentially, I noticed that Kit and Joe both have hot hands/hand movements in that Charades video.

Will Joe really need to have longer hair for the next season?

R461 It's definitely longer in the comics but I'd be surprised if they enforced that.

The one thing I’m grateful to Alice for. Forcing joe to leave his hair alone

Putting horror music over this scene works so incredibly well. Look forward to the day when Joe plays a sociopath.

r464 congats you struck gold. i totally wanna Joe as a Joe Goldberg-esque character

* congrats * see Joe. fck it we do need an edit button

R464 When the fans are more creative than the creator. I’ve seen these horror edits after season 1 and they were genuinely convincing/funny.

Bradley’s dropping a single.

R468 Bash has 24 hours to respond

R469 LOL why Bash?

R470 He's been planning his "i won the breakup" Joe diss track for like 2 months and now Bradley's stealing the spotlight

Bash saving the diss track for Joe's birthday

R472 I theorized that a while back and legit think he’s gonna do something like that on joe birthday. Either a song or a post including twink Charlie saying he’s never been better or some shit

I don't know why but I'm kind of expecting particularly heartfelt birthday posts from Tobie and Kit this year.

R 473 He hasn’t said anything relating to Joe in weeks. I think it’s done. R474 Wonder if Joe will have a big party in London or IOM

R475 I think you overestimate how moved on he is. On a day when he sees tobie, Kit, will, whoever else celebrating joe and perhaps even being with him? He’ll be fuming.

R476 I guess we’ll see. Did Connor make a bday story for Joe’s bday last year?

R474 I really wish with all my heart that on that day his friends publicly show lots of love for him and I especially hope for a hearthed post from Kit

R476 yeah, also generally speaking, getting over a 2 year relationship is probably gonna take a bit, especially when it ends on bad terms and one person spends the first months being petty as hell instead of moving on in a healthy way. Then again, they both went the rebound route, which can actually speed up the process I guess

R474 Both Kit and Joe have been more heartfelt in their birthday posts in the last year (Kit saying that he can’t wait to watch Joe take over the world, Joe saying that he loved and missed Kit), so I expect more of the same for Joe’s birthday.

R478 I don’t expect a big show on social media. He already did a sentimental one last year and they seem closer now. I just want some new content, please guys.

R477 He did

tho don't really expect bday wishes from many this year. seems like the cast is moving away from it and connor is team bash obviously

R482 Connor should stop smoking, he already looks old for his age

Lego stalking us, mentioning he‘s fully booked for the weekend

R483 do you know if Joe smoke? because Kit definitely does

R485 He doesn't

R485 his hinge profile said he doesn’t but who knows now

r485 so does Will. maybe it’s just Connor’s genetics

R486 GREAT!

The problem with Connor is that he's not one of those people who ages and still looks hot (like, to me, Taron Edgerton).

glad he didn't pick up that habit from Bash, I think he smokes like a train too

is this new or is it from when he went back last time. its the same outfit no?

R492 Same outfit, definitely from last time.

R487 Can’t bother him that much since Tal and Bash are smokers.

R493 not them tagging kitconnorinfo

R492 thats weird, its the same outfits and everything but the twitter one seems to be edited or its new and everything is just really similar

R494 Not sure how it doesn't, but guess he's immune to it. Pretty much everyone in the cast smokes pretty openly

R496 …or they just took multiple photos.

Not to sound judgey but I’m glad Joe doesn’t smoke, it’s wild how it’s become a hot or fun habit again. But yeah as r497 said it’s so common that while he doesn’t do it personally I guess it can’t phase him too much.

Is bash a smoker? I had no idea

r498 i didn’t know bash smoked either. people seem to have forgotten its long term effects again

R498 Agree. I find smoking so unattractive. Glad Kit seems to do it occasionally.

the smoking thing is ewww for me but thats because thats never been a thing when i was growing up here at least

R498 didn’t know about Kit either? I only saw him vape

Kit smokes, though maybe a more social smoker? There was that whole thing where he was outside smoking at a NYE party and lit a cig for a girl and fans got all pissy.. I bet Bradley doesn't smoke. Must protect his voice.

Bash smokes cigars, there are pics of that. The cig smoking I'm just assuming.

R503 of course they did, gotta act entitled always

R503 if Bradley ever smoked, when he saw joe didn’t in the hinge profile he dropped it immediately and picked up Nicotine gum. Priorities in order.

R505 Always found dating app profiles pointless. At the end of the day, people will go with who they find is the hottest regardless.

R505 I'm not following... why are you talking about Bradley and Joe?

R501 Bradley is waiting in the wings to snatch Joe up. He tried before but Bash was there. Then he tried again but sadly Joe had met some random bridge troll before he could make his move. So Bradley went back to his boyfriend.

Bradley has been single white femaling Joe since the day he was cast. Maybe he wants to date Joe. Maybe he just wants to be Joe. Regardless, Bradley is Joe’s biggest fan.

The new people need to keep up.

r509 [quote] maybe he wants to be Joe

hilariously plausible

New people need to just wait to get their bearings. The jokes aren’t that clever - we make them pretty clear, pretty quickly. It’s like a fucking crèche on here at the moment

I maintain he’s actually into joe which I find weirdly charming for how unexpected it is. You’d think his type would be more Kit or god forbid, bash

R512 yes, I'm new and I'm sorry, there's nothing I can't do about that, and all of you are right, new people shouldn't ask silly things, I think I'm trying not to do it, I'm old in following Joe, Bash and Kit, but unfortunately I found out very recently about the existence of this site, by the way, I love it here because just you, I don't want to know anything about Bash, I love Kit and I worship Joe, so, I found my place in the world... that being said, I had no idea that Bradley liked Joe, I don't understand how I never found out about that, but you have enlightened me

R514 mate, like 90% of the shit on here it a joke. Possibly based in fact but it wouldn’t matter anyway. You’re taking everything way too literally. We’re just a bunch of cunty gays making cunty jokes

R512 if you've already quoting other people you're doing well enough in my book. I've been here months (also a Joe fan) and I struggle with how to link things etc

R516 far as I can tell you didn’t spend weeks asking to have every joke and plot line to our bullshit explained. YMMV but it’s just as easy to read what’s going on for a couple of threads if you don’t understand something and just comment on what you do. I mean it’s fine and if everyone is happy to explain I can scroll on until it’s over but gonna note it’s tedious as fuck. Happy for that to be last I say about it

R516 haha good to know. I posted a link today for the first time and it went well... i think

R515 I know this is all jokes, gossip and delusional assumptions... we don't even know 2% of their lives, but I like to consider myself part of that group that knows everything (a lot) about them, and even then I didn't have Bradley in the picture, that's all hahaha

How would Joe look with his hair like that?

R520 I find joe better looking than timothee so probably hotter, but he has a tighter curl pattern than that anyway

R529 His hair is curlier so it wouldn’t look like that. I think it would look like this guy.

R522 "this guy" and it’s Adam Brody lmao

R522 oh I like it! ... can't wait to see Joe slaying like that

R514, I've been on DL possibly longer than you've been alive, and these obsessive-stan threads – filled with literal TENS OF THOUSANDS of individual remarks, in some cases about relationships that were 100% fake – are a mainstay. As a poster & reader you should remember several things: NEVER take anything here personally (seriously, 99% of DLers are vile cunts you'd never want to meet IRL), NEVER assume anything is fact (though the stans will usually disagree), and ALSO never assume that DL is in any way representative of a greater whole.

Normal people do NOT follow the literal every move of young gay actors who happened to star on a cute Netflix series – but DL is proudly not normal in most ways, and pointless bitchery has been at the top of its pop-culture menu for 28 years now. Still, if you're literally tracking who is & isn't following a given person on IG at any given time, you might consider "a break."

Even as a fan of both the show and the actors, I rarely delve into the threads on here, if only because they're SO fucking long, heavily fictional, and all but impossible to follow for more than a brief period. (I haven't even looked yet to see who this new Bradley person is.) And even for merely asking for a similar *update* to yours, I've been bizarrely attacked as a "troll" and "frau" (but OTOH that's a badge of honor for us OG DLers!).

Again: YOU are not the problem, even if some evil queen reams you a new asshole (and not in a good way) with a response to something you've posted. You need to be able to intuit that on a deep level, otherwise you honestly won't last long here. (Even if it requires going along with a variety of fictions, e.g. Bash is the most evil person on Earth since Stalin died and the HS writers despise Joe/Charlie for some reason.)

The only real problems here aren't the show's cast members, or anyone they're involved with: it's an inmates-running-the-asylum situation here on DL.

R525 off your meds? Thanks for the manifesto but you could’ve used the time you used to write it concocting more reasons that bash was too poor to visit his boyfriend and continuing your fanfic of straight Kit pretending to be bi.

R514, see case in point above! I asked a couple of questions and pointed out a few seemingly obvious facts, and I've been transmogrified into a biphobic, fanfic-writing frau who desperately wants Kit to be straight, and for daring to point out the common-sense reality that – while NO ONE here ACTUALLY knows what happened – it wasn't realistic for Bash & Joe to see each other every single fucking week given the 20-hour roundtrip flight between London & Atlanta.

R526 Thanks for doing the check for the rest of us, was wondering which of the bitter morons decided to pop in again. Should've guessed by her typical inane essay saying absolutely nothing of value. Cracking up at her acting like it's strange to know who "this new person Bradley" is, though.

Not the biphobic, fanfic-writing frau again. I’d take the clueless newbies over that stupid cunt.

R527 I’ll give it to the new people, none of them seems deluded about bash’s family wealth or biphobic. Unlike you. Maybe the attendants at the nursing home should restrict your Wi-Fi access, can’t be good for you to get so agitated

Anyway, speaking of Kit, I thought he might've not been online today but he liked Omar Apollo's thirst trap pretty quickly.

The RWRB promo is insane. This is genuinely hilarious.

R531 The fact that his type is so obvious is funny to me

R532 meanwhile poor Kit is getting forced to shave his chest. Maybe in s4 euros will give an interview about how joe, who clesrly likes hairy guys, went to him to demand they make Kit stop shaving

We need to get Kit and Joe away from these greedy CEOS. Hoping these theater rumors are true.

R533 it’s legit so funny that he and joe seem to be one another’s types so clearly. That plus the chemistry is why I don’t understand the people who insist they seem like siblings. I’m not convinced they will ever date, or sadly even fuck, but them being around one another’s types means I wouldn’t be surprised

How many different people actually post on these tedious threads?

R536 I think it's the lack of romantic/sexual tension. They're really familiar with each other in a way that siblings are. I do think they find each other attractive so maybe it'll develop one day.

R536 I'm generally whatever about people not seeing it for them, but the sibling thing feels like trolling. If you get sibling from the tension they have, I have questions and concerns.

R538 they dry hump one another onscreen and Kit had his hips right up against joes ass at pride offscreen. If anyone does that with their siblings, I need them to know it’s illegal in most states.

R539 As someone who is close to his siblings, I dry-heave any time someone tries to claim they have sibling energy.

They called themselves siblings. Take it up with them. And I agree with R538 there's not much tension there. The opposite in fact.

R539 They're the ones who brought that up lol

R542 The opposite? Do you really think they dislike each other?

R544 The opposite of tension is not dislike..............????????

R540 I'm about 90% sure it's the same two people who try to push the sibling thing on here and use Kit in the Teen Vogue video as proof even as he was laughing as he was saying it. The delivery of that couldn't have been funnier.

R546 That’s because it is, funnily enough. Just checked.

R536 idk about that. I think Joe is in the direction of Kit's type but he seems to be into twunk more than twink and also the overall darker type

R542 I do think they have a lot of tension as Nick and Charlie. I just don't see any in their interviews. R546 They called each other brothers when no one asked them to. Please. We're just going off what they have said.

R548 Kit seems to like them slimmer than him, dark hair, darker eyes, sort of pretty features for both men and women.I’d say Joe is actually more dead on what we’ve gathered of kits type than vice versa, but I think you could accurately describe both as within one another’s general types.

R546 I think it's funny how bothers it makes everyone personally. I will admit to not really seeing it for them any time soon though. They do not give me the vibe of two guys who are extra horny for each other but holding back in their feelings. They are so comfortable with each other. Maybe it'll come (pun intended) eventually.

Also I'll be extra contrarian and say I don't really see how Kit is Joe's type

ANDERSON: Okay, I’m going straight in. Have you ever fallen in love on a movie set?

CONNOR: Oh, that’s a big question, Jonathan. I would say I’ve fallen in love on every movie set I’ve ever been on. I think I’m in love with several people in the Heartstopper cast. That’s a really good question—I’d say it’s hard not to.

R551 I am the person who said joe is a little more obviously kits type imo, but re joe. I think joe doesn’t have a super strict type, so basing this more on thirst follows than hookups (he seems to be more open but I think thirst follows he has a stronger type), he likes them muscular, taller than him, hairy, nice bone structure. And given what we know of OF nick and bash, big dicks. He overall follows more guys with darker hair admittedly but is clearly not averse to light hair (OF Nick).

I’ll put it this way: based on their other follows and likes, if they didn’t work together and were both just actors, I would guess based on them following one another that it was in large part a thirst follow.

R552 Poly king!

Are we going to have to run through a history of Joe’s thirst likes now? Christ.

R551 What is exactly Joe's type apart from hairy and muscly? Bash and Tal don't really look alike. And then there's OF Nick. R555 Acting like there's anything else going on.

Leas that there’s anything going on and more that I’m starting to see why people are tired of the babying going on in these threads.

R535 They're going to have to deal with greedy CEOs for the rest of their careers, unfortunately.

Bel got a big cover shot for Gaytimes.

R559 adding bel to the cast members with more covers than joe this season I think. But good for her

R559 She looks great, but I don't know that I see it for her as an actress. Her speaking is borderline unintelligible sometimes.

She'll probably just use HS to further her social media career.

R561 I think she’s doing vocal training to pitch her voice more feminine which I think contributes. I don’t know that she’ll ever be a big or great actress but hopefully her vocal coach is also working on her articulation

Fave Joe account on Instagram posted a couple of reels comparing the comic to the TV show, always interesting to see how much Joe and Kit really bring to Alice’s middling dialogue.

R564 they’re both so good. Joes facial expression change is crazy. He makes Charlie so conflicted In a way the comic smooths over completely

R564 I hope the changing of saying he doesn't cut anymore and the lack of promise was actually intentionally done so Charile's hiding things still and not just watering down things. That's the kinda dramatics I would enjoy.

R552 Kit is a pisces. They fall in love with everyone.

R567 Libra lowkey same

R564 Joe’s delivery of ‘I would hate that’ is so good. I’m not sure why but I find it particularly moving. It’s said with such deep conviction

R568 as always i will maintain I’m not a believer but I see this for Joe as well. The way he needs to picked up and touched constantly by everyone on set, though actively doesn’t touch fans seems like someone who loves the people around deeply

Slightly different pic of joe with the dentist

R568 Exactly. Don’t know why Bash was so butthurt that Joe found a rebound quickly. He should know.

As he should

R571 Libras are flirty, but committed and love relationships, both friendship and romantic and do everything they can for their partners. If you needed another reason to say fuck you Bash today.

Anyway, will forever be funny Bash went on a 3 months hissy fit because Joe got his ass ate in Atlanta after the breakup

R573 Plus being known for always wanting to keep peace and avoid conflict it tracks with not unfollowing Bash‘s friends, liking a post, being cagey during pride. I don’t even really believe much in astrology, especially just sun signs but it’s kinda funny how much it tracks.

R573 bash should’ve been grateful he got to spend two years with joe and made more of an effort to come eat his ass and fuck him in Atlanta. If I had that ass in my life it would be a genuine struggle to pry my tongue hand or cock away at any time let alone to go see monks.

Don’t really care much about astrology but out of curiosity what about bash and does his behaviour track?

R572 I don't understand these awards at all. Kit gets no acting noms but the dumb crush nom instead along with Bash.

I was never meant to believe in astrology because my brother and I were born a day apart (different years), are the same sign, yet are complete opposites in personality and everything else.

R564 Agree with what everyone's said about Joe in this scene. Want to throw in that Kit is incredible with what he does with his voice here, which I thought was a great little bit of nuance he's added to his acting repertoire from one season to the next.

R576 They're Brazilian and some random site, they're not worth trying to understand. They'll both lose to some random influencers or something.

R575 Google says negative sagittarius traits include narcissism, overconfidence and being emotionally distant.. makes sense

r578 can’t imagine being emotionally distant from the ray of light being Joe

R575 Yeah what R578 said.. On the other side of the spectrum there funny, optimistic, generous etc.. The thing with astrology is that people who are deep into it and believe in it, would argue that the sun sign alone is never gonna be that strong of an indicator and that the whole chart counts.. which would also“explain" what the other poster said about having a birthday a day apart from their brother and being complete opposites.. The rest of their charts are probably very different.

I don't fully believe in astrology, though I'm a sag and we tend to go between stalking our ex and also cutting them out of our lives, sometimes at the same time. Also they tend to get bored easily and don't like to communicate since they think problems will magically fix themselves. Also think we are always right.

Don't date a Sag

r575 don’t think Bash was probably very good at fucking him. he just does not give of that kind of energy. Joe didn’t have anything to compare back then but now i bet he’s realizing how mediocre Bash was at everything

Ironically that’s 'true' about libras as well, it’s one of the main things with love for them, falling hard and being romantics at heart, kinda being in love for the sake of being in love but also getting bored fairly easily and being incredibly flirty. I‘ll admit, I checked Joe's chart and he has quite some virgo in their which tracks with anxiety and intellect and other stuff.. I‘m intrigued by astrology, think it’s fun but that’s about it

directed at R581

Instagram update, last one was about 47-48 hours ago.

Kit 5,918,469 on Wednesday, 5,943,166 today (+24,697, boost down 20% from the previous one)

Joe 4,111,768 on Wednesday, 4,128,530 today (+16,762, boost down 4% from the previous one)

Will 2,322,190 on Wednesday, 2,335,300 today (+13,110, boost up 15% from the previous one)

Bash 2,123,891 on Wednesday, 2,132,048 today (+8,157, boost down 13% from the previous one)

Yaz 1,776,869 on Wednesday, 1,783,480 today (+6,611, boost up 8% from the previous one)

Tobie 876,829 on Wednesday, 882,803 today (+5,974, boost up 10% from the previous one)

Cori 654,784 on Wednesday, 658,690 today (+3,906, boost up 18% from the previous one)

Kizzy 882,107 on Wednesday, 885,519 today (+3,412, boost up 15% from the previous one)

Rhea 463,385 on Wednesday, 465,285 today (+1,900, boost down 22% from the previous one)

R582 for a guy with a massive dick I never got a particularly spicy vibe from him. I wouldn’t be able to even take a vague guess at what he was like in bed. Kit and Joe are easy. Kit would be 100% about service, and that would get him off. And Joe’s preferences are lore at this point

R585 Slowed down a lot, but that story must have helped Joe.

And after the LPSG member said they often so Joe and Bash on dates kissing with his mother there I lost the idea that he was good at fucking Joe. I would have moved out of the family home ages ago to have my own place with my boyfriend, especially if I were rich as fuck and my boyfriend were Joe.

Bash is Norman Bates with generational wealth.

r586 which preferences of Joe are you talking about ?

people keep saying Bash has a big dick with no proof

R589 that he’s a bratty bottom who is into impact play and likes to be thrown around. Also strong belief that his chat would be absolutely filthy in bed

R590 He's got a big dick

R586 I genuinely don’t believe half of what people are saying now because back then everyone was swearing that Bash was amazing in bed because of his big dick.

R591 don’t forget that the bratty bottom is 1/2 the time, the other 1/2 is being dominated. And he needs to be spoiled and babies during aftercare as he deserves. Yet another reason he and Kit should fuck

R577 oh yeah Kit is amazing here too. I shouted out Joe specifically because (1) everyone praises Kit as the standout in this scene and I think it was such a two hander (2) Charlie’s facial expressions and delivery (the underline for emphasis) in the comic are so bizarre, and I think joe completely transforms it and makes it so emotionally effective and compelling

R594 good point. I meant that by ‘thrown around’ but I can see that clarity is important in these matters

New thread, lads