Heartstopper

Two people with better careers than bash and his friends

Better lips, too.

R2 hard to have worse ones

So hot

Let's not forget the mediocre play starrer!

R4 Disgusting. no wonder Joe refused to like that. Would not blame him for dumping him after seeing that photoshoot!

Bash being this much of a cunt two months post breakup is wild. Aren't you supposed to chill out and get over as time goes by.

Obligatory.

I know everyone is downloading threads rn but a cynical part of me thinks bash got it because he heard joes posts were doing well there and he’s too narcissistic to “let him” have that

R8 jumpscare

R11 He obviously wanted Olivia in the breakup and is claiming other people too

Is Sam there on Threads?

I genuinely wonder what story he’s spinning to make people turn on joe this way

Kizzy cracks me up. How do we get Kit on here so he starts fighting with Joe again in a similar way again?

R15 I'm assuming cheating

And Tobie down to fuck idc if people deny it

R17 I think full on cheating is a hard one to swing but I can see it if this happened - bash suggests a break, Joe is sort of in shock but says no, he doesn’t do breaks, it’s done; bash insists it’s just a break despite that, joe fucks nick, bash decides joes no means jack shit and thus it’s cheating.

R16 in honor of kizzy, them just walking away while bash is talking

R18 That sounds like something Bash would do since he was so damn unbothered for a week after and everyone only got pissy with OF Nick.

I fucking hate that we entertain the cheating thing here. It just gives the Twitter lurkers shit. To me it was clearly moving on too soon for Bash’s liking. If he had cheated Joe wouldn’t have got nearly the love he did from the cast at Pride.

R21 no one is entertaining that joe cheated. What we’re saying is his crazy ass has decided Joe wronged him and will ignore facts to suit that narrative

Absolutely hilarious that it took bash all of 5 min on threads to tag in two more famous friends. He will never beat clout chaser allegations

R21 It's not that anyone thinks Joe cheated. It's more like that's what Bash thinks or is telling people that happened. R22 This. He's fucking crazy. Joe didn't do anything wrong

I can also just see him spinning a “who knows” narrative. “I mean we were broken up but he somehow met this guy in Atlanta and was borrowing his clothing and fucking him within a week? I feel like he’s not telling me the truth” ignoring that joe is fucking gorgeous and magnetic and any guy even mildly into twinks would want to fuck him and give him things within minutes let alone weeks

R17 Kit, Bradley, and tobie all find joe hot and no one can convince me otherwise. Joe finds Kit hot too of course.

I think Bash will follow Joe just so Joe has to follow back so he doesn't look like the evil asshole ex who abandoned poor perfect Bash

Good time to bring this back

Looking at how toxic Bash and the people he's surrounded with are, I'm like good riddance! Joe deserves so much better than this trash.

R25 Could also see that. He moved on quickly so Bash spun a tale that Joe was fucking every top in ATL for 6 months (we wish). And I still think he got pissy about some of the guys Joe was following pre-breakup.

No offense, but Bash seems kinda emotionally stunted and do think he was jealous of anyone getting close to Joe despite Bash constantly being lovey dovey to everyone around him

There are so many similarities between Bash and Ben Hope if we go to see.

R22 YMMV but we know that everything on this thread is taken elsewhere and misinterpreted and treated as fact (which, I mean, sometimes it is). But I get your point - Bash is clearly being a cunt behind scenes. I’m glad Joe has his IOM friends because clearly Bash’s industry friends are fucking idiots who would rather isolate a 19 year old with an already established career upcoming than just play neutral. I still don’t envy Kit trying to play an even hand though.

R25 I think this is most likely. how did he find dick so fast, narrative. Um, hot as fuck twink - that’s how

R27 Bash is not going to follow him.

Bash third-wheeling Joe and Kit in Brazil is still insane to me.

R30 in retrospect some of the things that we shrugged off as Joe being private no seem very different to me. Like him unfollowing Dylan when he made an only fans, him unfollowing that Taylor Swift dancer the next day. The only thirst follows he got to keep were really other actors where he had plausible deniability. Feels more in retrospect, especially after nick, that it was that Bash had a problem with it. Which is hilarious Given he talks and thirsts about Timothée Chalamet, and praises him more than he ever did his boyfriend..

R32 haha I left both 22 and 25. I definitely get your point and think maybe we can all do a better job caveating up front why these claims are so abused to debunk the JBCs of the world. But overall I think any fan with even a little objectivity would have to admit Kit is not plastering his cheating friend all over his grid and snuggling him in front of a chested in friend. Just not happening.

Glad for joe he’s out of that toxic relationship

R34 He was not needed there at all but he still decided to show up just to act as a third wheel to Joe and Kit. His actions just scream of insecurity when you look back at it.

A lot of things that seemed cute and mutually clingy now look way way weirder in retrospect. Brazil being one of the most obvious.

R37 I remember I made a comment about Bash third-wheeling when that happened and got a bunch of people telling me that no, Kit was the third-wheel, but this was always a work trip where they were the two leads and all Bash did was awkwardly go on stage for 30 seconds. And it wasn't a particularly long trip, Joe should have been fine to spend a couple of days somewhere with one of his best friends/co-workers without Bash hovering over him.

R34 I thought it was sweet at the time, but comes across a little differently now. He also was going to stay the whole time but had to go audition for his play. Though I still think he got bored of Joe sometime in that 6 months, judging by the Japan trip and not going to TS, but wanted to be able to get back with him when he wanted to. Just seems like his M.O

Kizzy seems like such a genuinely good friend, based on their comments and general social media activity, so it tracks that they would be the most transparent about disliking Bash post breakup. Especially because he was being such a twat at Pride

Makes me wonder if Joe was confiding in them during the relationship. I'll be interested to see their reaction when Bash's cunty break up song drops

R40 that’s why I’m guessing if he didn’t do the dumping himself (which I still think he did) he said something about how Joe wasn’t putting in enough effort, he wanted to take a break, and then, when Joe was back over the summer, they could see how things were. Joe wasn’t down to hear someone unemployed whose mediocre play he had just sat through in his one week off tell him that his effort wasn’t good enough while he was being a weirdo in Japan, and wasn’t in the mood to spend his summer sucking up to his less talented, less attractive, less intelligent boyfriend so he called it. Insert a fight where bash repeats a lot of nasty shit billy says about joe.

R42 imo kizzy is the one most likely to hit unfollow on main. He doesn’t seem to give a fuck. Doubt joe confided too much in most of the cast, but the way kizzy, cori, brad, and tobie, who also happened to be a close friend group, have reacted since the break up makes me think that they have their own side eye or thoughts about the dynamics behind the scenes and maybe discussed them even pre breakup

Bash didn't put in any efforts to keep their relationship alive when they were still together. The Japan trip and going to a pub instead of spending time with his boyfriend and many such instances. But now, he's also the one who is bitter and petty that the relationship is done. Make it make sense.

Looking at his actions, one would have thought that is what he wanted. That is for the relationship to end.

I also wouldn't be surprised if they all found Bash annoying before this and have no real reason to keep playing nice anymore.

I might be projecting a bit here but it stinks of a narcissistic supply situation... When you cut off narcissistic supply (basically stop sucking up/validating their fragile ego while accepting blame for everything that goes wrong) you get narcissistic rage/tantrums

I think Bash was the one who got dumped and his ego couldn't take it so now he's going out of his way to make Joe feel like shit for having the nerve to dump him. Seeing Joe flaunt the fact that he fucked a hot OF model on top of that would only have made him even angrier

R45 I think the JKR thing really rubbed kizzy the wrong way and I get it. The casting isn’t his fault, but 1. Not having a thoughtful statement prepared, 2. Not telling them, or Yaz, or other trans members of the cast and crew in advance, 3. Putting them in a position where to say anything against the game and encourage people not to buy it would be interpreted as them being anti-bash, and thus unprofessional., 4. Knowing for a fact that he’s richer than sin and wears outfits worth thousands a day, but couldn’t be bothered to make a donation.

It makes sense if Bash thinks he’s god’s gift. He thinks he’s the best looking and most popular. No effort needed to keep a boyfriend. He’s trying very hard to keep up appearances that he’s more relevant than his ex.

R46 I’ll say this - if joe DID dump him, what in the fuck did he do that weekend to make Joe decide to do it? He was so happy to go see him and was depressed basically as soon as he got there (Lucy’s story) and done basically as soon as he came back to the states.

Best of luck to Amybeth with her horse teeth and 5 min in stranger things on continuing her career if she keeps burning bridges like this. She and bash truly are birds of a feather including looks wise.

We are starting to talk about OF Nick like that kid that was on here for awhile claiming that the NYC post was like some kind of indicator that Joe was having a mental breakdown and trying to psychologically batter bash. It’s not like he posted him even in full profile. I think it was intentional but I also think it was beyond mild. Obviously none of us think Bash’s reaction is proportionate but it’s wild we are even discussing the post like a big deal. Bash really went off the deep end

R49 I'm starting to think Joe dumped him via text after returning to Atlanta. Makes sense especially if Bash is as much of a narcissist as he seems b/c narcissistic rage is scary

R47 Didn't he make a few general comments about people not doing enough about transphobia around the same time? The shade. I love him

I’m kind of thinking that the breakup itself, no matter who did it, was at least initially pretty typical despite its abruptness because the mess took a while to kick off. And I don’t think Joe did anything wrong based on Kit spamming him on his Instagram and his protective instinct kicking in at London Pride.

Also want to add that I think Joe and Kit showing Bash grace in their behavior is because they’re the two that know best what the worst of the internet is like and they’re good people that don’t want to subject Bash or anyone else to that despite what a total fucking clown Bash has been like.

R52 I highly doubt he text dumped him, I think the cast would be less sympathetic if so. Or st least less overtly checking on joe and protective. I agree with others. Sounds like the break up is typical, and that those who have heard both sides, or generally, in the know like the cast think Bash‘s reaction is pretty crazy. Those pride posts, and even Kit’s total lack of one, speak volumes.

Tobie posting joe multiple times and no bash, kizzy tagging everyone including joe in a video he wasn’t in except bash, ash excluding bash, Bradley posting joe multiple times and no bash, wills story with joe and no bash, cori tagging him only in the official Netflix group pic with way more joe, Kit not posting at all. Kind of tells a story.

R53 Yeah to be clear I don't think Joe did anything bad. I think he was a kid from a pretty normal background who got love bombed by a rich narc and his family and it became too much.

R54 unfortunately he is digging his own grave the longer he carries on like this and no amount of common sense PR from his costars is going to save him

I hope Kit can continue to walk the line he’s trying to. Ngl his ‘I love you’ on Bash’s pride post gave me shitty vibes. I know he was great with Joe and the float and something obviously happened between the float and the stage that meant Bash was asked not to be there but it felt like a big overcorrection from Kit. I’m unapologetically primarily a Joe fan but I really enjoy Kit a lot and I tried to dismiss it but it just sits badly - particularly as there is no evidence that Joe and he hung out at the after party. Kit fans, I know all of your reasonings for not thinking it’s a big deal I’m just projecting that if my close mate wrote that on my ex’s post after he had made my day miserable I wouldn’t love it.

I expect to be loudly corrected and put in my place lol

R57 to be totally honest, and I know people may disagree, joes behavior around bash at pride gave me straight up scared vibes. He wasn’t just annoyed or trying to avoid him, he looked like he saw a ghost when bash got too close. I really think he’s begged his family and friends to try to stay normal and be nice because he knows he can be a dick when he’s pissed, as recent antics have shown us. Kit as a mutual close friend might be aware of this as well.

R57 I'm 99% sure he and Joe have a lot of private conversations where it was probably discussed and clarified as a PR thing. Kit seems emotionally intelligent and I know if I was him I would be making that clear to my other friend if I had to play nice for appearance sake. Kit is clearly a lot closer to Joe than Bash so I didn't read that much into it

R57 I'm not going to correct you, but I would say right now it's best to take cues from Joe. Joe reposted Kit's British Vogue picture with thirst emojis, so he's fine with Kit. And I'm sure there's been open communication between them about all this. Reading the worst into the comment might be the parasocial part of the brain kicking in.

New tiktok - joe looks fucking miserable, Kit touches him and he startles a bit, Kit puts an arm around him and asks if he’s alright (I think), joe goes back to looking miserable

If he’s scared of Bash’s reaction, then it’s possible he broke it off via text.

R62 if that's the same video I saw before it looks like Joe says 'I'm fine' after. Probably doesn't want to talk about it with him there, which is understandable.

R64 think it’s a different one. Kit checked in on him multiple times. But agreed, Joe seemed to be trying to keep it together as best as possible

R61 lol - I mean sure, going for parasocial insult on this thread is fine, I guess. Ofc there is an element of that but it’s also just empathy. If that shit was going down for me when I was 19 I would have been upset. But 10 years ago I didn’t live my life online the same way these guys do so my view is skewed by that. As I said, I don’t actually think Kit is in the wrong here, but that shit can still sting

R66 I'm not sure why you're taking it as an insult when it's something we all have openly admitted to doing here.

R66 I didn’t leave that reply and I get your point re empathy for sure. I think parasocial is sometimes an insult on here but this is largely a thread of people who love joe and Kit and have said before we feel strongly on their parts, so it’s not always. I will say a flip side is if bash WAS asked to leave (which tbh would actually help explain some of the recent amybeth enmity, if he said joe was taking shit away from him like career things), I highly doubt it was at joes asking. He is a trooper and I think he would just grid it out. So if as seems likely Patrick, or someone politely suggested he not come on stage, I think it’s pretty likely Joe would want it made semi-clear that that wasn’t his decision to avoid pissing him off more. Kit commenting as a mutual who clearly cares about Joe is one way to handle that.

R67 too much time looking at Twitter I guess. Where parasocial is thrown around by teenagers almost exclusively as an insult, but all good it wasn’t your intention

Bash has shown a lot of narcissistic behavior in the past month. I’m sure there were things about there relationship that Joe liked, but I also think Bash was at times a very toxic boyfriend. Joe’s dead cow comment today and the fact he admittedly developed body dysmorphia while he was dating Bash makes me think Bash didn’t do much to build up Joe’s mental health. I honestly hope Joe dumped Bash, don’t even care if it was over text. Because escaping a toxic relationship by any means possible should be applauded. But sadly, I think Bash did the dumping, maybe not fully meaning it, and then got mad when Joe didn’t crumble to dust without him.

R68 commenting to my own comment but I actually think this isn’t unlikely and is sadly part of why bash will continue to act more toxic. he’ll act up and make it an uncomfortable environment for everyone, not just Joe; he’ll face repercussions, like being asked not to come on stage, and instead of realizing that he’s fucking himself over and needs to get it together, he will decide that it’s Joe doing this to him and become nastier. Hopefully I’m wrong.

I’m sure this won’t be the last time we discuss it, but my two cents are that Kit’s comment didn’t phase me because at the end of the day Kit was the one repeatedly checking up on Joe. To me, Kit having the wherewithal to worry about Joe’s well-being matters more than shunning or not shunning Bash on social media.

R68 I definitely don’t think Joe had anything to do with whatever happened with Bash not being on the stage. Patrick and whoever else with authority and eyes and saw the way Joe was reacting to Bash wouldn’t have been able to let it continue. Even though Netflix have been shit with Joe, they’re not going to want one of the main cast to look scared and miserable on stage.

R72 it was more that the comment happened after whatever went down at the end of the parade. Left a bad taste but I see everyone’s point

R72 Pretty much. If Kit's checking up on Joe at an event, he's checking up on Joe in private. Chances are he's taking cues from Joe. Joe also didn't completely shun Bash after the parade, he liked posts that included Bash there.

R70 bash strikes me as the type who’d point out how much stuff he gave you materially and how he hyped you on social media and get mad you wanted a bit more comfort or security going through hard times, while expecting his own comfort and feelings to be coddled

Not to derail, but I’m on Deux Moi listening to a reel about the drama Pedro Pascal is having with his old stylist and just now realized that it’s the same stylist that put Kit in that leopard monstrosity for their first Attitude Awards. No wonder Kit and Pedro both dumped him.

R76 I thank god every day for joe and kits stylist upgrades, especially for holly. And I thank god every day for bash’s stylist downgrade.

Also think we can’t underestimate how much bash’s narcissism plays into post breakup dynamics. We know by their own admission that at least a few fans mentioned Joe to bash after the break up, including that DC guy who took photos. Realizing which he already should’ve known that he was not going to escape his more famous ex along with joe rebounding fast probably made him livid. Also explains him trying to act like the main character at pride

Damn, Emily Carey out unfollowing joe for bash and he can’t even give her a follow on threads. Sad days

R76

who was Kits old stylist, i forgot?

Two beautiful men. Kits smile is cute and I love how attentively joe stares at anyone speaking to him

R80 Fabio Immediato for the first Attitude Awards, then Christopher Brown for a while, now Felicity Kay.

Noticed that Felicity was tagging Holly in the Loewe posts that included both Corey and Kit. Nice professional courtesy, and seems like a good thing for HS promo that they have a good relationship

R82

ewww i just realized that that awful look was Dolce. good riddance he is gone

R83 aw that’s nice. And no need for either of them to ever collab with Harry lambert now that bash can’t force his way into events. His next move is angling to get Bella to take him as a plus one

His sassy little head turn at the end is cracking me up.

His and joes jawlines and lips and skin >>>. Bash, none of the above

R84 It was so Dolce (derogatory) that I’m surprised my brain didn’t realize it was Dolce before this.

Hourly least favorite roster member and Joe but they are also tiktok mutuals too. Guess we know why joe went back to tiktok.

Would love to point out that even the one bit of advocacy bash has done, the tshirts for Choose Love for LGBTQ refugees, were literally only promoted by him as someone else pitched the idea to him, designed them, made them, and sold them. And even then joe and Kit did most of the heavy lifting promo wise. Meanwhile joe lobbied the IOM government and went on radio to demand refugees be brought to IOM before he had any platform with HS and then used his HS platform to successfully lobby for a law change. Food for thought!

R90 That shirt is basically HS merch now. And tbh he could have skipped buying a few 500 dollars sweaters and donated something to a trans charity for working on HP, but...

R17 Sure, whatever makes you happy.

R92 Are you suggesting he doesn't want fuck Joe.

Pretty sure Joe never left TikTok completely, just stopped posting videos.

R57 The parasocial brain really got you because there's no way you feel that way about a comment on an IG picture. And Kit and Bash are friends. Maybe Joe and Bash will be in the future. We don't know yet.

R95 yep, thanks mate. I’ve already been told

I clicked a video at random on his TikTok and the lettering was uneven on the finished tattoo. Between this guy and Bash… what’s the opposite of a competence kink?

R62 Kit is so touchy and lovely. Please Kit, there are plenty of men who would die for this type of affection. Don't ever change.

R96 p sure he has some weird thing against Joe, don’t take it personally

R96 Yeah, sorry. I caught up on the thread and saw that someone said the same thing. But I don't think Joe has a problem with Kit and that comment. He knows they are friends. R99 I actually don't. At all. I love Joe and Kit. Maybe relax.

I just went back to Bash's post and Lucy liked it as well. I'm assuming she's the most clued-in to whatever is going on in that situation on Joe's end. Between that and Joe liking Pride posts with Bash in them I'm guessing he came out of the whole thing glad that it's over and ready to move on.

RWRB is trending everywhere. I saw someone say they're already renewed for a third season but I've seen Netflix change their minds and cancel a show. Also, the movie is in direct competition with the show in terms of social media hype/engagement. We'll see but it will definitely affect season 2's numbers.

R97 he has low standards. Hope he grows out of it. Let's hope for the best.

R100 definitely believe you love Kit, dw

R101 or again, he’s trying not to piss off a narcissist who is intent on being a dick to him. Who knows? I think the “joe is fine” stuff is being used on twitter and elsewhere to suggest if Lucy, joe, and so on are all okay and the only issues are on bash’s side, then joe fucked up, and I think it’s just a sign Joe is less vindictive and mean

IG update. Pride boost is sustaining pretty well for Joe, better than for most of the rest of the cast that is making 3-digit gains (Cori, surprisingly, is still making 4-digit gains alongside Joe). Kit obviously has the British Vogue boost going on now as well.

R104 And definitely believe you're one of the unbearably overprotective Joe stans, don't worry.

R107 I don’t think it’s ridiculously protective to say you seem from your comments to have some weird issue with him. But to each their own.

R105 YMMV, but for me it's a sign that Joe's pretty much continuing to take the high road, has fortitude, and isn't cowing down to a narcissist. I've been pretty unrepentant in saying that Bash is a pile of shit. Twitter is fucking stupid. The issues are on Bash's side because Bash is a cunt, not because he was wronged.

R107 actually wait, huge mea culpa. I muted the wrong person and looked at the wrong posts. Very much my bad

R108 Oh, but you are if you think someone has an issue just because they don't think it's weird Kit left a comment on Bash's IG (which is what this whole thing was). But glad to know you're the one who knows best.

R102 interesting to see big Kit fan accounts like the faux lesbian hyping it. If S2 has low interest I don’t see them cancelling S3 basically because of Kit and the interest he generates (read early views on Netflix not giving a fuck about Joe). They cast is signed, right?

R107 can we not (unless you are actually that Rosie woman, then knock yourself out). You said I was parasocial, others did too, I said okay. I didn’t go you, or Kit or anyone else. As you have pointed out plenty in your history differences of opinion should be okay. We had a perfectly polite one about Marvel yesterday. Why does it always go back to being “overprotective” of Joe. No one has a go at Kit fans anymore. Fucking Rosie, she really sprayed her toxic frau all over this place.

R111 replied to you at 110. I had muted the wrong person, it was my b.

With the caveat that this is my impression on what I know and have experienced in the industry and to take my POV as a slightly educated opinion and not a promise, I’m not even remotely worried about season 3 right now. Netflix put it into pre-production back in April, have set things up to shoot in October. They didn’t wait around for numbers. They’re doing it.

S3 is fine. The show is cheap to make anyway. Do think my dreams of it taking off in the US are not happening though.

R115 I think it might but more incidentally than due to Netflix. Agatha is out pre s3, Kit imo is likely to have something big booked (maybe the Shards thing) that’ll get people intrigued to see his work. I can see s3 and 4 getting US viewership due to them, which is fitting as the show is only a success due to them. Even if Netflix is allergic to posting joes face on social media

R112 I think the breakup has really changed the atmosphere here. But I hate how if someone slightly disagrees with the idea that 'everyone in the cast hates Bash and they're all plotting to end him' it means we have a problem with Joe. I don't care about Bash.

R117 as I said multiple times, I got the wrong person and apologized.

R117 I personally don’t think everyone in the cast hates Bash at all fwiw. Which really is where my observation (parasocial) came from. I think he’s a behaving like a dick but these people have all been friends for years (particularly on the scale of how old they are) so I can see how that’s hard to recognise/they think he’ll get over it and want to stay friends. Imo it still must suck for Joe to see that.

Except Kizzy - I do think Kizzy is done with Bash

Love this account zooming in on the important parts

the doom posting about Heartstopper getting canceled because a movie on another platform is coming out is fucking hysterical. Y'all clearly have no idea how the industry works.

S3 is happening regardless and as R116 said is likely to pull bigger numbers because Joe and Kit’s other projects will be out by then. HS is a Netflix series and RWRB is an Amazon movie, there are exactly zero places where there viewership numbers will be compared in any way that matters. RWRB might pull some media attention but HS will still get a lot of engagement. Kit’s British Vogue cover is the most likely post on British Vogue’s IG by a large margin.

The only question is if Netflix decides to renew the show for a fourth season after s2, or if they wait until after s3. I actually think they will want to renew for a fourth season early because a year from now Joe and Kit might be fully booked on other projects and less able to sign on for a fourth season.

R122 If Netflix even wants the chance to make a season 4 they are going to lock in Joe and Kit as soon as possible.

R123 They both are already talking about other projects they want to do. I don't think season 4 is locked yet. And I still think seasons 2 and 3 have a chance of receiving a lot of backlash for the way they portray mental illness.

Imo the second they heard joe booked marvel and saw kits engagement they drafted a s4 engagement contract

R125 Im willing to bet that's true.

Leila made a Threads, follows both joe and Bash. Cori follows Leila, still not following Bash.

Did we ever figure out if the follow thing at the beginning extends to accounts created after yours and auto-follows them when they pop up?

So these endless and tedious Heartstopper threads have devolved into Bash hating threads?

I knew there was a reason I lost interest in them 11,376 threads ago.

R128 tbh I’ve missed you

R127 as a reference Bella doesn’t follow either Bash or Joe but has liked their posts. I have no idea who I am following or not because every person I’ve ever even looked at is in my thread. So I think it’s definitely something about when you opened your account

I did laugh at Caleb McLaughlin ignoring Amybeth telling him about the pickle war. She seems immature

R125 There’s no way they signed for season 4 without seeing the numbers of season 2. We’re talking about Netflix here. It was already unheard of when they renewed for 2 seasons in one go. Anyway, the reply about imaginary world made me laugh.

R131 I would get it if they had said idealized, maybe, but complaining about teen shows being imaginary under a tweet about a romcom that involves a Prince of England and the First Son of the US falling in love is hilarious.

R131 It's not common but it's happened a few times on Netflix with the most popular shows. Important to remember that Heartstopper is super cheap to make compared to most series

R131 is she actually fr? What light-hearted gay stories about people on their 20-30s? I literally can’t think of a single one - it’s why adults like heartstopper

Netflix posted the total watch time for HS and it’s only 3 hours. I agree it’s probably inexpensive to make. I wonder if knowing how it all ends might help Netflix make a decision, but Alice haven’t gotten to that point.

R135 it’s 4 hours. I wonder if the Paris trip cost a lot to film.

R136 I noticed the quality looks better in the season 2 teaser, the budget was definitely increased

R136 I thought so too but it’s Netflix itself saying it’s 2hr 54 minutes

R138 Seems strange - that works out as 21.75 minutes per episode, but I’m sure most of them are longer than that, even without the credits.

Just came across the most cursed fan account on IG - a Kit Bash one.

The credits are very long. I believe that time.

I also believe RERB and HS could end up helping each other instead of hurting each other. Obviously, that’s why Amazon is releasing it a week after HS. I watched YR after HS when it was recommended as a good show to watch if you like HS. If RWRB gets lots of sm buzz, influencers could end up suggesting HS as something to watch next. RWRB could actually help HS break into the US market, especially with Netflix expanding the window they look at to 90 days. People definitely have time to watch both shows in that time period.

In boring news, Joe followed that sofiadamsphoto he followed on insta on threads and liked this.

And if you block someone on threads, you unfollow them on insta. See ya Amybeth.

Really hoping he is just kind and supportive of all members of his roster and is not actually down for this guy. Joe you can do better!

R142 Oh that's the guy who took the photo Joe loves of himself. Should follow him around. Seems like a friend of Tal's

R142 I kinda need that tattoo guy to go. Obviously, Joe can do what he wants but I smell bad news. R139 That’s ridiculous. With all the new storylines and extra characters we’ll be lucky to have 10 minutes of Nick and Charlie per episodes. And you can’t create a good season with so little time. There’s no time to build up anything.

R141 The thing with YR is that it's a different genre completely from HS. Whereas, RWRB is the same genre (silly and happy rom-com). I've already seen a decrease in numbers on tweets about the show. And since both are probably around the same time (maybe 1 hour more for the show), people will defiantly talk about the movie more. Probably until the end of summer.

R145 yeah to be fair I’m forming an opinion based on very little but k would hate if joe jumped from relationship with bash, who sucks, to relationship with this guy, who gives off vibes.

I'm sure HS will do fine, it's still Amazon Prime. Though people do love random shit with royals and this being a gay story women are going to eat it up. HS comes out first, so I don't see why people wouldn't watch it even if they start getting hyper fixated on the movie.

R147 I do find it sad he never liked a picture Connor took enough to mention it and meets a new guy who has a friend who took a picture he likes. Fuck Connor.

Joe has a kink for guys who are mid (sorry OF Nick) apparently. Assuming he'll never get down bad for Kit since he's on his level and a great guy. Maybe he'll learn.

Late and back to Bella Ramsey, but I don’t think we can read into their follows on threads as much as I thought we could. Threads is so weird that I legit can’t tell who I follow. I think it auto suggests and shows feeds from accounts you follow on IG on threads, even without you following them. For instance joe doesn’t follow Kizzy or Connor and I have to presume that’s an oversight, as he’s interacted with both since yesterday. Bella has liked joes posts and bash’s and doesn’t follow either, even after bash tagged them (his clout chasing never ends). Think IG will remain the better gauge

R148 I honestly do think (re mid) it’s a self esteem thing to a point. Joe is a total catch; he’s funny, smart, super talented and successful, and obviously he is gorgeous. Hopefully he can get more secure in that

Now that Joe’s got some freedom back I totally understand his need to build a chaotic circle of characters centered around him and not someone else for once.

R148 What makes Bash mid? Genuinely asking because he was never my favorite but before the breakup everyone was swearing he was the best boyfriend and most good-looking? I also think Joe is not confident enough to ask out guy so it's probably a thing of them going after him. He's also always joking with Kit and doesn't seem to take it seriously when Kit compliments him. I don't know if they'll ever break that pattern into something romantic/serious. Maybe they're better as friends anyway.

R152 If you asked me 6 months ago I'd say he wasn't, but nowadays.... He's just a lot less attractive now than he was. And I defended Bash here for a long time, but at a certain point I'm just glad Joe's out of that relationship. I'm not saying he was a shitty boyfriend the whole time, but in hindsight I'm assuming things were not always as cute and wonderful as they seem, but who knows. Tbh, nobody here was against Bash after the breakup. It's just after he started to turn people off.

R152 I’m not committed to the idea of Kit and joe, because I love their friendship anyway. But I will say while liking to be pursued is a preference joe might have anyway, the level of pursuit can vary based on your self confidence. When you know you’re hot and desirable, someone being flirty, initiating touching you, and complimenting you in interviews, as Kit does, can be accurately read as pursuing you. If your confidence at the time is lower you want something more overt.

I think as has been said on these threads before, we all hand waved off a lot of weird shit from bash saying joe was ok with it thus it was fine. Post breakup, especially given his behavior, that’s questionable. And frankly the amazing boyfriend to toxic ex pipeline never really happens, so guessing there was a lot behind the scenes we didn’t see. Of the main four guys, he’s the least talented in music and acting despite having the most experience, has in my opinion the least appealing body minus the big dick, and doesn’t come off as insanely intelligent. I don’t think he’s facially ugly but his antics have turned me off him. So mid seems generous

Another Netflix pride photo dump

R154 I don't know how many times the threads said it's obviously fine since Joe didn't care, but yeah spot on. Everyone in the cast does everything better than he does. Will and Yaz - better models, Kit and Joe - better actors, Will and maybe Kit - better singer. Where he wins is he's insanely rich, though Joe and Kit aren't hurting for money. With all that money they couldn't buy him more talent either. Some people are naturals, I don't think Bash is. Plus bottom line, his personality is annoying as fuck.

R155 They really scrounged around to find Joe shots. Kit ass shot in slide #2 is nice

Photo dump features a pic of kits ass, a few pics of joes glorious bone structure, and one pic of bash looking like a moron

Joes profile is unreal because unlike his ex he has a jawline

R157 If I were feeling generous I'd say he was over compensating trying to appear happy since he was so OTT even for him, but I'm not so going to assume he's just a moron and trying to be the main character to get all the attention.

Seeing Alice is worth it for kits ass

Bash is an idiot

Kizzy really was so sweet to Joe. I love this pic

I don t get why people were saying Will didn't hang out with Joe at all or made no effort or was Team Bash. I think he's just really chill and seems bored half the time. I can't see him even bothering with being on anyone's team.

R163 Will has described himself as quite timid and hating confrontation in the past - I reckon he has his opinions (he probably leans more on the Joe side) but didn't want to do anything too overt at the parade when he knew every man and his dog was filming them. And I wouldn't be that surprised if Joe had asked the guys not to make a big deal of it on the day - whenever Kit came to check on him, he'd give him a sweet side hug (or kiss lol) and then usually quickly disappear, as if not wanting to draw too much attention. I wouldn't be surprised if that was Joe's request.

R163 I don’t think anyone thought he was team bash, just that he didn’t make effort with Joe. Given bash was trying to be the center of attention and crowd joe out, absent active effort to hang out with joe, it wasn’t happening that day. And I agree with the above that will is more laidback and unlikely to pull a kizzy or even a Kit and overtly go see joe

R165 Found it crazy that people said he didn't make an effort with Joe from the little videos we've seen. That's when I say some are too invested in this narrative.

R166 I don’t disagree with you! Was just clarifying that no one on here seemed to think any of the cast except rhea took bash’s “side”, just that people saw joe was really uncomfortable and wanted the cast to do more. I think the cast overall handled it well with some standouts though

Higher res version of r162. Joes hair is so nice

Heartstopper season 2 has not reached those numbers yet. I actually don't see much chemistry between them but it looks fun and grown up. And I love some cheesy gay romance.

Think one more thing that used to help with engagements in case of Heartstopper was the leads being there on Twitter and being interactive. That was a fresh concept and them being interactive used to keep the engagements going.

R169 It seems cooler and more adult. HS comes across as kinda childish and as always a bit tumblr fanfic for kids. That's more middle aged women fanfic. Also good job using Lil Nas X in the trailer

I'm assuming we'll get the trailer next week

R172 The trailer came out 9 days before the season dropped. I think we'll maybe get interviews.

I don't know. This made me laugh

R174 imagine that plot twist. Joe and Kit really are way better looking in my opinion (tastes vary, I get that)

I'd guess the trailer will be released around 2 weeks before release - they know how much hype it'll generate so might want to release the trailer a bit earlier than last year. I don't think we'll get it quite yet though as we only just got the teaser.

R174 nightmare fuel

Twink Charlie is on threads, no bash follow or like yet (and he doesn’t follow bash either)

R178 bash doesn't seem too interested.

R179 I think he’s honestly obsessing over joe moving on and revenge followed him because of his look and his name is Charlie. Why else follow someone in NYC.

Thats my feeling too. Just a random follow to be petty. Feel for the guy for leaving heart emotes. He's a cute twink.

R181 I feel relieved for him. Getting used for jealousy sucks but dating bash is far worse

R181 I don’t think either care all that much about their hookups cuz they’re … hookups. Charlie is hot, Bash would be lucky if Charlie wants to entertain him.

She is psycho

R184 the tweet below that makes it sound like Bash is a stalker who won't leave Joe alone. Not sure that was her intention.

eww Bella commented on Bash’s selfie

R186 she also follows him now. But he tagged them directly in something. We’ll see if they ignore joes next few IG posts; I think that’s more indication than threads esp as they’ve liked both joes posts

For the curious, the joe post doulla liked on pride. I honestly think Bella not following joe is the weirdness of threads, I had to manually check on and follow cori and kizzy. While Amybeth, bash, and that friend group do seem to be live bombing them, they loved the show and Kit and joe and I’d like to think they’re a little smarter than to have an issue with him because someone they’ve known for years but who only started caring about them when they became really famous is a salty ex.

All I know is Bash is weird and vindictive. Anyone who ever thought he was a sweet golden retriever or compared him to Nick Nelson got fooled.

I don't really care what Bella does, but I guess we'll see if they ever like a Joe post again and we'll know.

R188 His mom seems sane/nice at least

R190 she raised him and his crazy sister so… but yeah maybe she is. Hopefully she gets him under control if so, because he is terrorizing his ex

R188 Tbh it's a bit funny since Bash wasn't even into TLOU while Joe, Connor, Kit, etc. all constantly liked posts about it and Bella in general. So Bash didn't pay any attention to Bella until recently, as in since last week, and starting liking and following Pedro after everyone else had been doing it for awhile.

I think Bella's too smart to actually give a shit about Bash's grievances, but we'll see.

Joe and tattoo Tal lmao

R193 going to ignore how much better joe can do and focus on how amazing his ass is. And his shoulders are also fantastic

Oh dear. And yeah, I think they are like actually dating and not just hooking up sadly

R195 ok I’ve seen no evidence for THAT. He met him about 2 weeks ago, lbr

R196 It's just Joe goes out of his way to like every stupid post he's in. Don't tell me he think he's talented

Let's not forget how quickly he started dating Bash

R197 fair enough re bash, but I can’t decide if it’s weird regarding the likes. OF nick only posted on grid once after he followed him and joe both liked and commented on that and clearly they aren’t dating. I’m hoping for the best, by which I mean roster member who gets dropped or peters out when joe starts filming s3

R193 Actually said "ew" out loud when this loaded. Don't need to list all of the reasons why this sucks, someone just talk some sense into Joe.

So I'm guessing he's back in London, then?

I'm guessing Yaz is on E now. She's looking like she's got a little more curvy lately, which is nice for her. Her Pride outfit was great.

R193 I guess he wasn't lying about being into Daddies rn lol

Mediocre actor/singer to grocery short clerk (sorry OF Nick, you catching strays today) to mediocre tattoo artist. Love yourself Joe. Listen to this on repeat

R198 He's already liked 20 times more tattoo tal posts than Nick posts tbh

Tal found another way to get back on Lorraine, I guess. Maybe he’ll get a This Morning appearance out of this as well.

R202 my point is there were no other nick posts to like. So it’s hard to see if this is a pattern. If nick posted nonstop on IG and joe only liked a few we’d have a different pattern of behaviour to look at.

Anyway preserving my sanity and focusing on the important bits. His body is so perfect

R200 Assuming his mom told him to come visit and he was bored out of his mind yesterday and left. And true, he never lied about loving daddies

I’m actually here for Joe fucking/dating an older guy but Joe baby, get a hot one. Please!

Can’t believe I’m asking for this but Helen, talk some sense into him regarding ok older men (non clout chasing 25 year olds) and less ok ones (closeted clout chasing tattoo Tal)

I don't care if he's old, but I wish he were taller. I'm superficial like that. He seems to be trying to make some kind of career for himself. Bless his heart.

Nell's boyfriend is going to have another guy to give him bad tattoos

He couldn't have hung out around Eric a little longer until he met a smarter/more accomplished daddy? Or fucked Kit? Or paid to fly Nick into London?

The way I thought Tiny Tal was in his early 20s because he looked like he was just starting out in art and he's 31 and fucking awful at it? The way he did the press rounds because HIS BROTHER was on Love Island? The way he's another semi-closet case?

The only way I can make sense of this is that he's looking for guys specifically who aren't really in the public eye, maybe to avoid the generally more insane speculation that comes with dating a co-star.

Y’all calm down, he’s probably just fucking this man. We all agree he can do better but he’s not financing this guys flat in London, from what we know just fucking

R210 More reason to date or fuck a theater producer and not some pseudo influencer with previous media appearances.

Don't really care about Tattoo Tal's age and he looks pretty decent. It's his height that's bothering me. He's way too short.

Not sure what I find most offensive about that picture, the fact it's confirmation that they're dating or the fact that Tattoo Tal is carrying a plastic bag while Joe keeps our planet beautiful with his cute little tote.

Also not to lower the tone but Joe is looking decidedly bow-legged, so I'm guessing his type really is massive-dicked morons.

Tbh I'd take short and hot over tall and ugly but that's just me

If we didn’t know more about OF nick, we’d say sightseeing together and doing a weekend trip to NY together is a sign they were dating and clearly they were casual. Tal posted s few hours ago saying he had a few openings this weekend if anyone wanted a tattoo, he’s working instead of just hanging out with joe. Obviously they’re fucking but I think it’s just that

R209 No offense but I don’t think Kit would be down. It takes a special kind of person to take advantage of someone who recently broke up with their serious long term bf. OF Nick seems like a genuine friend more than just a fwb. This Tal guy is ugly and twice his age. Not a great look. Bash better unfollow Joe and move on. I don’t wanna see any other petty posts.

R216 Not sure anyone but moron slut shamers thought Joe and Nick were dating. Nick was clearly very busy fucking that weekend in NY.

I hope it's nothing serious and just hooking up, though getting pictured together already at an official event and Joe follows his friends makes me wonder.

R215 Joe can and has pulled tall and hot (Nick).

Regardless, it's really never a dull day for Joe fans since the breakup. Fun times.

I wonder if Joe's the pursuer or the pursued? He talks about being fairly introverted these days and not being able to tell people that he likes them, so these hookups make me curious how it went down. Especially as they seem to happen quickly after meeting someone.

It has almost been two months since the break-up. Can't really expect Joe to sit around twiddling his thumbs or to expect others to not take a chance to fuck Joe. And no one knows for sure if he's in a relationship with Tattoo Tal. Could very well be just friends with benefits.

R218 photographed together but neither posted it, and while maybe I’m being deluded I’d also point out joe is trying to develop a social circle outside bash and his friends. So I think we’ll see him be a lot more fast and loose with the follows for a while as he tries to engage with more people

R19 What the hell was Bash all about then? He isn't tall or hot. Maybe he doesn't have a type after all

Also tattoo Tal is very open (contradiction in terms) about being closeted for work, and while he may be a clout chaser I think he has to be aware that fucking a 19 year old at his age will not make him more appealing in a PR sense

R221 I'm guessing he's being pursued.

R223 I can buy that. Still obviously fucking though.

R224 Legit starting to believe Joe likes hairy men, but his type are men who ask him. UK tops go find him.

At the end of the day I hope that I'm wrong, but this guy is giving me an overall bad feeling the same way Bash did.

Sucks that Joe will ruin his body with Tal's ugly "art"

R227 the issue with needing to be outright pursued in order to believe someone is attracted to you, which I think is joes issue snd is tied a lot of the time to self esteem, means that there’s a lot of clout chasers and love bombers in the mix of people who enjoy pursuing that hard from day 1.

R228 actually that’s one potential relief, we presumed he got a tattoo but maybe it’s just sex and not gal’s “art”

Why is no one snapping sneaky photos of Joe/Kit/Tobie/Will hanging out, rather than Joe and tattoo guy? Sad times.

Joe's too pretty for Croydon

New Pride pics. Wish he was fucking Kit or will

R225 His ex is 20, so he likes them young. He was pretty open with him, just not his social media. His brother has tons of pics of them, though not too coupley. Do think dating a famous teen would be a bigger deal though. So I really doubt he'll clout chase with Joe at least. It's not a good look.

And I knew this was something when Joe starting like his reels of and one was of was "the sun is for everyone the beach is for those who deserve it" tattooed poorly. I hope the dick is good at least.

Bash just pulled out another sheet of paper to add another verse to his diss track

Tbh I doubt Joe will get a tattoo. It's risky for an actor and he probably knows that by now

R233 There are a couple of pictures of Kit with a fan in the same post.

R235 Talentless Tal is a fountain of material for a diss track, which will make it even more pathetic when Bash writes some garbage.

R235 10 minutes might not be enough

R233 Joe has really long arms

R247 bash’s will be shit regardless but to be fair shitting on a 19 year old for a concerning hookup with someone 12 years older would not be much of an own

Bella Ramsey just commented on kizzys threads post, fyi. So maybe bash hasn’t gotten to the “kizzy hates me” part of the lore yet

R239 Oh, I only mean the part dragging Tasteless Tal in particular, not the Joe part of it.

So no one cares Joe is possibly dating or fucking a 31-year-old clout chaser?

R241 sadly I think it’ll just turn into more joe slutshaming. The diss track does seem inevitable and I’m curious to see the cast reactions

R242 what do mean no one cares? Have you read the thread? No one is thrilled

Patrick isn’t following Bash, right?

R242 The whole thread is about that currently? Think everyone is in between denial and bargaining.

R240 Or maybe Bella likes Kizzy, Bash and Joe all at the same time and they are not chronically online.

R242 On Twitter? I'm assuming everyone is keeping that in Circles.

R246 believe it or not, I was actually joking. Chill

R233 We don't talk enough about how Will is the hottest guy on the show.

Twitter is slow. I just barely started hearing some talk about it yesterday. Give them a few days

R244 on threads? No but also not following kizzy and Leila. The platform is bizarre

She’s going to have a meltdown when someone tells her.

R247 Yeah on Twitter. I thought they would be outraged but seems like no one cares. R249 Same. To me, Will is the most beautiful in the cast. I get why he's pursuing modeling. He has that classic look.

R249 I think he’s the most classically handsome but not the hottest. Joe and Kit both have way more sexual energy to me.

R249 I try to post Will as much as I can but people don't really engage with it. Everyone has different tastes.

I want to stick my head in his pits.

R253 Twitter is weird since you can't actually discuss who Joe is fucking/dating but they also will be outrage at the age gap. So expect vague tweets and not much else from English speaking fans.

R256 for once I agree with their pearl clutching, 31 is a lot. Especially when he seems shit at his job and has a habit of dating much younger men

So Joe is on Hinge

Age gaps are weird. If someone has a habit of dating much younger people, it's possible they're predatory--people that age tend not to have much relationship experience and don't always know what's right/wrong in a relationship, and an overall naivety that can be easy to exploit. However, if it's truly a relationship of equals, that won't really matter. That said I'm pretty sure they're just fucking, so I wouldn't read too much into it.

R258

HUH?

R258 Going to need receipts on this one.

Yeah, will need a source since you don't got the best post history. No offense.

Good for him if he is.

Fans wise Joe should be careful with older guys, because the female part of the fandom will immediately turn this into him being groomed or something of the sort, and this shit will blow up.

Fans barely care about Joe to begin with. They'd probably whine he's ruining Charlie

R242 It's spreading a bit now. Well, one comment

R264 Sure, fans don't care about Joe. That's why he has 3.5 M followers and he got almost 200K followers in a day on a new app. R262 I don't know why but the history police on an anonymous gossip site is cracking me up!

R265 always some dumb straight girl!

R262 Happy Now? No offense

R268 damn you did have receipts

R268 could be him but since all those pics are also public I’m torn. Good for him if so, it’s a fun profile

R268 That's funny. Though probably not the kind of press he wants

R268 Turns out Joe is a bit cringe. It's okay, he's still hot. R271 I thought the fact that he's 19 he could escape these types of articles. Isn't illegal to report on a teenager's dating life?

R272 ymmv but I actually think it’s a pretty cute profile. Low key, personality, modest, not pictures his management will hate

That profile is adorable

It's a tame profile. Not really a big deal. Sucks someone sent it to The Sun though. Maybe he met the tattoo guy on there?

Most interesting parts if he's an atheist and lives in Soho.

Also with nothing but love 5’10 sounds unlikely

Also glad he doesn't smoke.

Also fuck whichever hag sent that to The Sun

. Anyone on hinge fancy changing their locations to London to see it? I still don't think it's his real profile

Wonder who tipped the Sun about this. They need to leave teenagers alone.

Actually have a lot more in common with him than I would have thought. Hate wasps (am allergic), those specific tape measures (got cut up to hell one time when one retracted), I look up plots every time, and am also an Atheist that doesn't smoke.

R279 I don't recognize one of the selfies (and the baby picture?) from before this so I'm assuming it's real.

R281 Time to shoot your shot

I get it's a smaller and more selective pool, but I would have assumed he'd be on Raya before Hinge since leaks would be less likely.

Joe is going to end up deleting his profile after this. Fuck the Sun.

Someone tell him about Raya

R285 The bottom of the article says they contacted his rep for comment so it's 100% deactivated by now.

R285 I mean no offense but he must have known his profile would cause a scene? He's a celebrity. I feel for him though. Dating must be hell for him and Kit.

R288 Agreed but I really doubt he would've thought he will end up on the Sun cause of this. Since when is being on a dating app news? Saying this about celebrities cause many of them are there. We don't know about it as no one reports it.

He's young, i bet he thought it was not a big deal.

Not that this is the point, but I did get a chuckle out of Bash being so thoroughly erased that The Sun reported this as Joe looking for his first boyfriend.

I really feel for him. I think he'll either be really annoyed by it or find it hilarious - one extreme or the other. At least none of the info is shocking/really personal.

Two pics seem new though hinge verification is weird. Though nobody but a stalker fans like us would know about him being in Soho lately. So going with real and probably gone by now. Fuck the person who sent that in.

R288 It sucks for him because he doesn't really know anyone in London anymore. Probably wants to meet new people. I'm guessing this not his ideal way to spend the summer, going on apps trying to find someone to hang out with.

And yes, try Raya.

management, get him on Raya cuz this is not it

Also think he probably figured this was a pretty low key boring profile and worth risking it

R291 If the press gets pics of him and the tattoo guy and calls him Joe's first boyfriend Bash will spontaneously combust

When we get to know that it was someone from Bash's clan who tipped the Sun.

R297 it was tal playing 4D chess. ruin the chances of Joe finding another partner so he spends more time with him

R295 Seems pretty tame. I'm sure he's actually hornier than that IRL. 19 year old looking for dates/hook ups. Shocking. Shouldn't even be written about.

R297 Wouldn't doubt it.

This is why I don't think they fuck around as much as people on here think they do. It's one thing to be young and single but another thing to be young, single and famous. It'd be very easy for people to get hold of pics/videos and use them against you if things go south, or they're just a cunt. That could end up damaging their careers very easily, especially since Heartstopper is targeted at teens. For whatever reason people who work on kids stuff are expected to be pure little angels

R297 I didn't think of that but it tracks unfortunately... Very odd that Bash wasn't mentioned once despite them very obviously dating for 2 years

R298 I was sort of thinking this abstractly, except that it was him trying to get Joe followed by paps so that he’s seen with him.

Only thing I'm nosey about is if he met Tal on the app, which I sort of hope since it means he wasn't looking for ugly ass tattoos from him.

Thinking about it, it would be very easy for Bash to make a profile with info and pics only Joe/people close to him would have.

R302 the Lucy follow is what throws me. And Tal is gross if his age range is 18 and up on an app

Joe is truly not giving bash a minutes rest. Every time he thinks he has a few minutes free to go be annoying with Amybeth, joe forces him back to his notebook and his guitar to add a verse!

R304 Her follow seems pretty new. Though could be wrong. It's high up when I look at her following

R305 At least he's working I guess.

R303 I don't think he's that psycho (yet, but maybe I will by the end of the week)

Ratting him out to The Scum of all tabloids. Unforgivable. This and the Tal photo from today all feels a bit weird and leaky. I hope Joe has some good people looking out for him right now.

Joe truly not giving me or bash any rest

R308 Weirdly reminds me of the Olivia R shit that resulted in people paying attention to Bash for a minute so they got a dating rumor article. Not saying Bash was responsible for that (other than attention whoring for the paps), but just hope some London paps or random frau aren't paying attention to Joe this weekend. I can almost predict the article.

Not to baby him, but he's so young, went through a big breakup and is trying to find his own friends, hookups and social circle and being in London around weird ass possibly clout chasing people isn't the best. Though I guess he's gotta learn.

R309 At least bash will never know peace

R308 I can see Kit going into full protective mode again with this, especially as it’s the weird fame side of things that he understands. It seems that Joe has good people around him so hopefully he’ll be okay.

R309

[quote] Georgia isn't on my mind

stop. he would

R310 also not babying him but I think sometimes people on here rightfully hate the infantalizing and desexualizing of queer men so much that it swings back to “joe is a full adult in his slut era he’s fine”, and I do think there’s a middle ground. He is a full adult, but he’s 19, just out of a long term relationship, and still getting used to how famous he is and how interested in his life people are while trying to completely rebuild a social, dating, and professional life in a city he’s never lived in without his ex. I feel for him and hope that this Tal guy is actually just horny for him and not clout chasing

R312 not to big myself up because a lot of the shit I speculated on in the bingo card is painfully dumb and simplistic, but somehow I still think it might be above bash’s level

That Sun article was published last night, which would explain why he was all over Threads and then went completely silent today.

R311 I was thinking about the Kit of it, too. Apart from Kit's protective mode kicking in, he'd be someone good for Joe to talk this through with if it's something that got to him. There was that mention of working harder to maintain his privacy in Kit's British Vogue profile and he's been pretty good at it, all things considered.

R310 There are other ways to go about it other than public dating profiles and reality TV-adjacent hookups, Joe just needs to figure out how to navigate it. Get on Raya, See if Will and Tobie and Kit know people you could connect with. And so on. There's this framing that he's completely abandoned and alone in London, but that really isn't true.

R316 no one is saying he’s completely alone and abandoned, but I think people think he might want a social circle that’s not all shared with his ex rn. Kit, tobie, and will, while great, are explicitly mutuals and coworkers of both

R316 Maybe he doesn't want to get to know people who know people in HS. Just my feeling he might want to make his own friends who aren't friends of friends. He did that once and didn't work out well for him.

And nobody said he's an abandoned puppy in London or anything.

Can’t believe another tabloid is talking about his dating life. Poor guy. Let the man find hook ups in peace (should have stuck to headless shots on Grindr - ngl is where I assumed he actually met OF Nick). The articles a bummer but him being on Hinge is so normal, it’s fucked that he can’t really do that stuff without it being broadcast. Anyway, peace for all those really worried about Tiny Tal - he’s clearly very casual.

Hope that with time he ends up doing better than a Love Island contestant, his brother, a nameless background Pussycat Dolls dancer, etc. Eric, get your ass back to London.

R315 Not totally silent since he liked some random Tal pics this morning, though hasn't posted. And I think he was bored yesterday. Today he's not.

R319 actually I can see him meeting OF Nick on hinge too

R303 Are you a twitter frau? Because that’s some unhinged things only a straight woman would say.

R319 If he’s on hinge it probably means he’s not looking for a meaningless hookup. Libras get attached quickly and like to make new friends.

R324 ymmv but I don’t think it means he’s looking for anything serious, I think it means he realizes being on Grindr would be a way bigger deal for him PR wise

This made me laugh.

R324 Get the feeling he likes having a boyfriend. He's so all in on liking shit about the tattoo guy now, though hasn't deleted the app yet so maybe not full all in yet, but bad for joe but good for Tal since the profile is gone now I'm sure.

R325 tbh I doubt he's thinking of shit from a PR perspective

R327 I think he’s not being the most prudent but joe isn’t an idiot. I think he is aware that an innocuous pretty cute profile on hinge is one thing, a profile on an app pretty built around casual sex is another.

I think joe seems to like a connection more than a boyfriend, at least this far. Doesn’t want a random ONS, but I, not convinced yet that he’s trying to date tal

R322 always been my theory that they broke up when Joe was in the UK and Joe had downloaded the apps and set up his profiles by the time his plane touched down. Because 19 and newly single. Nick and he clearly hit it off. It would be funny if for the last month in Atlanta he was just dating on apps using his real profile but no one gave a fuck.

R325 agree. It’s just another app. To me it basically means he likes to have actual dates not just fuck. A drink and the then sex is a great way to spend and evening.

R326 that’s actually really clever. Some fans are legit funny

Don’t think I’d seen this pic. He is so good looking

R323 Because Bash has been so rational and sensible these past few weeks. What would I do if I was an unhinged narcissist who'd just been dumped?

R311 Kit also has his own life and problems that no one seems to care about. Not everything is about Joe.

R328 I guess we'll see. Can see both sides. Just sucks for him and wonder what The Sun thought it was a good idea to even run that article on a 19 year old.

Need astrology anon to expand on Libras.

R333 Speaking of Kit, he needs to add some spice to thread

R333 Chiming in as a Kit stan, no one is trying to make everything about Joe. They've referred to each other as their respective support systems multiple times and this is a situation where one of them might need support.

R311 Kit lives in my brain rent free 24/7

R333 No one said that? The boys themselves have said in interviews that both of them have been there for each other as a support system. That's the reason Kit being protective was bought up but please continue acting like the immature fangirls on Twitter.

R335 I think there are 2 photoshoots unaccounted for with him so those should provide whenever they drop.

R337 Oops meant to reply to R333

R333 how is that comment possibly an attack on Kit or an insinuation that he doesn’t have his own life? I presume post the coming out, joe was a good and highly supportive friend to Kit. I presume Kit is with this being one to joe. If anything, people saying they think Kit will feel for him and feel protective is them praising him for his excellent friendship.

Same commenter who yesterday called someone an overprotective joe stan and has been overall leaving comments on the breakup and how maybe Kit doesn’t even want Joe. Just a little funny.

Kit would understand the whole issue. No like he could ever making a dating profile himself. Even Raya might not be safe for him. It's not saying Kit doesn't have his own issues.

R343 I'm a Kit stan but... bigger stars than Kit are on Raya.

Re bash, I say this as someone who can’t stand him, don’t think this has anything to do with him. He wouldn’t make Joe a cute likable profile with tame pics if he was trying to screw him over, let’s be real.

R344 Obviously but people are nosey as fuck about his sexuality even now. And I'm not a huge Kit stan, like him but more a Joe stan but don't think he'd know peace on any dating app

R344 It's not really about the magnitude of the celebrity as much as it is how insane people are about Kit in particular, I think. Joe's probably not the biggest celeb on Hinge either and he's the one in a tabloid because the same kind of crazy surrounds him.

R343 Kit would understand it and on top of that we had 200 videos of him being concerned about Joe and checking up on him physically and verbally from a couple of days ago. Kit would absolutely feel a way about a tabloid invasion of Joe's privacy.

R345 Bash isn't that much of a weirdo even if it's weird and petty. The whole thing is just a weird coincidence, even the tattoo tal pic too. A random fan just saw him. Though just stay indoors this weekend Joe if you must hang around him.

R345 Tbh I don't honestly think he would (it would be obvious it was him, for one thing, and possibly grounds for some kind of protective order idk), but I was just pointing out that he could.

What’s hard on raya is it includes models and influencers, who are famous but also many of whom are blatant clout chasers. And the younger they are, the less discrete they are. So agree Kit would probably have a tough time. Bigger celebrities are on but if their dating range starts even at 25, there tends to be a higher level of maturity and eagerness to keep privacy that I don’t necessarily trust a 21 year old influencer to have

Joe and Kit could avoid all these potential privacy leaks by dating each other.

(Joking, but also… do us all a solid.)

R349 faking a profile is too much, some random friend of Bash's seeing it and then sending it in is a wild conspiracy theory, but not one I'd totally rule out.

Joe's a pretty low key celeb even in London and he's 19, it's just weird.

Bash’s specific brand of freak is about centering himself more than anything else, which is why I’m 100% sure this wasn’t him.

R351 You’re not lying.

R352 That is why I think someone who has a vendetta against Joe could have possibly done the tipping off. Cause this really isn't news if you look at it.

R342 Do you want to do my landlord's background check for my new apartment? Seems like you have a lot of time on your hands.

R354 It's really not. And I'm bothered he didn't use many new pics or a full shirtless pic. Give us something King

Really don’t understand how someone saying “I bet Kit will sympathize and be a good friend” got taken as “fuck Kit and his problems, the only important person is Joe”. For all the sometimes justified annnoyance about exhausting joe fans, both of them, Kit included, have overprotective nuisances getting hysterical in these threads.

R356 the shirtless pic he chose is intriguing to me. Not the most flattering one, I do not understand his love for under chin selfies, but he’s hot regardless.

R357 Yes because I clearly worded that comment that way. Kit opened up in his recent interview about going through things as a young man and he just got a ton of hate online for that interview. I'm sure he's there for Joe, obviously, but he has his own things to deal with.

This is totally random but I always forget Kit can sing! Are there any recent videos of him singing?

R358 Not sure why you had to comment on it. Some people really do get personally offended anytime someone thinks Kit might give a shit about Joe.

R358 yes except exactly 0 comments implied or said Kit had nothing to deal with in his own life or that his entire life should be reacting to joes needs. They simply said he would probably be there for joe because this is a situation he can sympathize with. It is exhausting that everything on here is taken as an attack, including your comment.

R360 Nuance seems to not exist anymore in this thread.

R362 I’ll bite. What exactly was the nuance in your original comment that “not everything is about joe”? Honestly you’re starting to sound like Rosie 2.0. If everyone disagrees with you maybe you just read the comments wrong and imagined a Kit insult or slight that doesn’t exist.

The shirtless selfie in Joe’s hinge profile is a picture he posted on stories about a week after leaving Chichester. I’m guessing he took it while he was setting up his app profile and has simply changed his location from Atlanta to Soho after returning to the UK.

R363 Nuance in general. Someone doesn't wish death upon Bash = they secretly hate Joe and never found him attractive. Someone wants to talk about Kit more and not just in connection to Joe = they're a twitter frau who are hysterical. Just the fact that some of you are genuinely entertaining the idea that Bash sent Joe's hinge profile to the Sun is proof.

R365 ok, but your comment was a huge overreaction and there was zero nuance in it at all. People aren’t anti Kit for rolling their eyes at it. If you’d pointed out “Kit is a good friend to joe, but I’m not sure he’s super focused on a random sun article. He just got a lot of backlash from his vogue article that’s probably more pressing to him”, I’d say that was a fair nuanced point. The way you decided to take comments that were literally praising how loyal a friend Kit is and decided they showed that people only care about joe is bizarre to me.

The Chichester trip pisses me off so much when I think about it. The only week Joe got off from work, he decided to take a trip to watch Bash's extremely boring and mediocre play. Just for him to most probably end up getting dumped.

R366 sorry I always accidentally click post too fast with my fat thumbs. I’d be happy to discuss Kit more but right now he’s just not doing much. Joe is kind of the main character rn, in the same way Kit was when he came out. If you want to discuss Kit more independently of joe, then comment on it. Don’t get pissed that others don’t.

Kit being called protective just shows how good of a guy he truly is. That too at such a young age. It actually shows him in a good light. Don't really get why a statement of Kit being protective has someone so pissed.

R368 Perhaps my comment wasn't the most nuanced because I'm tired. The thread was a cesspool when Kit came out so I'm not sure it's the best comparison. I care about both Kit and Joe but I guess I can't be mad people care overtly more about Joe on here. I just wish the overprotective comments could be extended on Joe's side because I'm not the only one who gets mad over innocuous comments.

R369 agreed, I honestly just took it as someone noting they had that in common and Kit would feel strongly for him on that basis. In the same way I’m sure joe feels for Kit when he has gotten shitty comments on his appearance. They face very similar struggles to different levels as one another - kits sexuality is nonstop denied and he’s accused of lying even after coming out; Joe faces homophobia. People are definitely next level nasty to joe about his looks but people aren’t exactly lovely about either.

R367 I'm starting to come around more and more to the idea that Joe did the dumping. Joe and Bash spent very little time together for months leading up to their breakup. I don't think Joe went to Chichester fully intending to break up with Bash. But he could have gone hoping to discuss their relationship and suggest changes that would make things better moving forward. If Bash reacted poorly to Joe making reasonable demands, I could see Joe choosing to end it. Sort of the theory of Bash suggested a break and then Joe saying no we're done. But instead, Joe admitting their relationship had problems and Bash refusing to listen. Then Joe actually standing up for himself and dumping Bash. Bash waiting until after Joe rebounded several weeks later to have any reaction could have meant that Bash didn't actually believe Joe meant it when he dumped him. And it also explains a little about why Bash is acting so crazy now. He's been scorned and thinks he's the person who was wronged. But also, Bash is acting crazy enough now that he was probably a very controlling boyfriend and Joe likely had extremely reasonable demands that Bash didn't want to accept.

R370 I said in the above that both have exhausting stans rn and with all respect, because I’m positive I’ve done it too for joe, you are being one for Kit. Everyone and again I include myself needs to chill the fuck out on these threads. And I don’t think people care about joe more overall, tbh - there have been full threads of people explaining why they think Kit has the it factor and joe doesn’t. Again, joe is going through a long term relationship breakup where his ex is being a dick, a semi clout chasing older guy is now fucking him, and his dating profile just got leaked. Being mad Kit isn’t the center of attention in that conversation is weird. And I will agree with you that sometimes it happens in reverse, where Kit gets notice for his coming out and people make it about joe being ignored. Both are unnecessary.

R372 I still stand by joe not doing the dumping unless it was a “bash suggested break, Joe suggested breakup”. But if we say you’re right for shits and giggles, I can actually see it being even simpler and bash just being such a massive dick about joe having to miss the end of his play for filming and “never making enough effort” that joe was like “this isn’t feasible”

R329 Tbf, I made one comment with 2 sentences and it turned into this. I really wasn't that pissed but the comment made people very annoyed.

And I'm sure Joe must have called up Kit to talk to him if he knew about the nasty comments that were made after Kit's Vogue cover dropped. Both have always spoken up about how the other was there as a support system when they were low.

But Kit was brought up here cause we got to SEE him being protective of Joe on the float. Multiple instances of it are there. That's why Kit was specifically mentioned. Not cause 'everything has to be about Joe'.

R372 Can't see Joe being so obvious about the hookup with OF nick and his hot boy summer if he did the dumping. If he did it and it was done. no need to rub it in Bash's face that he meant it. Will say the drama all comes down to OF Nick whether Bash didn't believe the breakup or was just mad he moved on.

R373 Fair. Let's just let it go. I don't want to fill this thread with some unnecessary back and forth. I agree with what you said.

Tbh even the article isn’t that invested in itself. It’s just a summary of his profile - not even a hint of slut shaming, which is where I thought it would go when it was posted. It must be annoying for Joe and I guess some of the particularly nasty cunts on Twitter will twist it but it’s nothing. Based on Joe’s past comment I assume it pissed him off but I don’t think anyone, including Kit, needs to worry about the Joe’s well-being.

R370 tbh I thought Kit’s article would create more chat but assumed it didn’t because he sounded really level. Truth is Kit keeps it low key and Joe is out there getting into the dating pool. Joe’s frankly more messy rn (and people do get overly worried when something like the dating profile “leak” happens).

At least all the guys in London now know Joe is single. I hope he is buried in dick

Another of bash’s friends booked a good role. Asha - Large supporting character in a BBC movie based on a pretty popular book so actually a good get. She never followed Joe so no gauge there of his shit talking efficacy. It’s just him and the unemployeds who really have time to be bitter about joe

R379 Kit sounded really at peace with coming out and seems happy and grounded. He looked hot, but not much to discuss.

The only hate he got was from the stupid shitty trolls who always hate him, so I doubt he gave a shit when he's not even on twitter anymore

Annoying Twitter pages like PopBase would have posted about it by now had it been Kit. All these pages end up doing is making sure that everyone piles up on teenagers who have already left that app cause of extensive bullying.

R376 to the protective point - bash truly is a POS because Joe looks so drained and Kit is so nice and concerned

R382 tbh Joe’s just a gay guy looking to date, I’m sure the clicks on that article are good but it’s probably not setting the world on fire for the Sun. Who knows if they’ll even bother keeping an eye on him in the future

R384 Let's hope they have no desire to for a follow up about him finding his "first boyfriend"

Joe liked this comment. The guy reposted the pic on his page

R383 Looks like Kit puts his arm around Joe’s waist at first.

R387 I think he does but joes hand is there so then he moves it up.

Updated the compilation video to include a few other clips.

Will also be optimistic and point out that while a dick appointment is one reason Joe probably came back to London so fast, the timeline and the fact that his IOM trip was so short makes me think interviews and promo kick off fully next week.

Disappointed we didn’t get a new shirtless pic though.

R388 Nice work. I think the only one you’re missing is the one where Kizzy spots a sign for Kit, grabs him, and then Joe is teasing him saying ‘hi Kit’ and Kit leans on close and puts his hand over Joe’s. I’m not sure where that clip is though (helpful).

R391 I’m also on the hunt for it. It’s my white whale. If anyone has it and can upload to streamable I’ll add it in

If Industry DL or his fellows are around I’ve got a question. Netflix has already released the teaser for Sex Education that comes out almost a whole two months after Heartstopper. Coverage of the cast seems great on the sm but the show doesn’t seem to be getting a huge push… is it possible they’re keeping it low key because it’s bad? I’m not trying to be pessimistic, I’m really struggling to understand their strategy

R392 This one?

R394 yes thanks! That clip is cute. Looks like Kit says “hello Joseph” in his ear

R393 Main sign of a bad show or movie is a review embargo. Right now, Netflix is following the same promo timeline that they did for the first season of HS, which to me reads more that they’re complacent about it and less like they might have a turkey.

Honestly I think they’re just not banking on this cleaning up at the Emmys again because of the time it’s coming out and thus being more chill and trusting between the Kit and joe appeal, the low cost, and the dedicated fanbase it’ll do well anyway.

Sex Education is ending. Can see them making it more of a spectacle for that reason.

I wish Netflix had some desire to break into the American market with HS, but it doesn't seem like they do. The show really did poorly here compared to some of the rest of the world.

R396 I've seen it happen across forms of media, corporations think that if something has a fandom they don't need to market it, which is a horrible move 99% of the time but they never learn

Thanks. A few things were throwing me like the more adult kiss in the promo (which I will bet money is the horniest thing in the show including the hicky that I think will be tame as fuck) which made me think they are acknowledging the fact adults like the show and were going to up the marketing to us. But then the float was clearly totally uncoordinated (they should have strapped Kit and Joe next to each other and actually had a photographer on the float) and the promo for the teaser nonexistent. I’m sure it will do well but it doesn’t seem like they can be fucked developing or expanding the audience. Hope they’re not relying on the people who bought the 6 million copies of Alice’s books - because as we know that’s a grift and the same 1M teenagers just bought the book with the five different covers.

R395 This is a random observation, but Kit is really good at the parade thing. He was making sure to circulate regularly both here and in DC to get fans on both sides, more than the rest of the cast (Joe couldn't even try to for obvious reasons). And stating the obvious, but they look so good together. I'm glad Kit seems to be a really empathetic guy with how he was with Joe at this.

R401 yeah kit is great at it, a real natural. I think Joe is great at it in slightly smaller settings; at thing like the GQ event you saw him moving around more. And as you say, here bashs annoying ass made that impossible. But kit is fantastic at it. I wish they’d just had them, Yaz and Will, and cori and kizzy, plus maybe Tobie because I think the 7 of them have a great dynamic and are the ones on the poster. Plus Joe wouldn’t have spent half the parade looking like he saw a ghost.

For anyone wondering if Bash's Italian accent is better than his American accent: no.

Is he supposed to be doing an accent, i just hear British.

It struck me in DC that Kit likes to move around, a lot. Joe planted himself in one spot for most of it and Kit basically went side to side around him. Fitted with the bank of evidence that Joe prefers not to walk anywhere if possible. Thinking about this - I can’t get over how much better the visibility on the DC float was. You could barely see past all the people, balloons, railings and signs on the UK Pride float. DC they could be seen from both sides of the street even though Joe just planted and barely moved at all.

R405 with nothing but love to Joe because I actually find it endearing, he’s awkward as hell, which I think contributes

R404 tragically, he’s meant to be Italian. Somehow still find the American accent worse

R403 Not this "it's-a me, Mario"-ass accent.

R405 not going you at all but what do you mean by awkward? Imo he looked relaxed and not awkward at all in DC so I’m just interested in what he was putting out there to you

R409 awkward not in the sense of feeling uncomfortable, just I think he’s a bit more physically ungainly. The clenched fist randomly in that gif of kit lifting him for instance. We know he’s not uncomfortable around lot, they’re touchy feely as hell, so I think he’s just slightly more physically awkward that way

R402 It's interesting when you think about how complementary they are. If one of them isn't as strong at something, the other one makes up for it. Like Kit being better at sit-down interviews, Joe being better at public speaking.

I thought Kit was moving around a lot on the DC float because it’s hot. He was constantly fanning himself. Joe may not feel as sure-footed on a moving vehicle with nothing to hold on to.

R411 yeah agreed, plus genuinely protective of one another. In the GQ video interview when kit talked about people assuming his sexuality Joe looked livid on his behalf, and he always amplifies what kit says about it without talking over him. Kit discreetly checked in on him and was there for him without drawing attention to the situation despite bash monopolizing his time at the parade. And they’re really gifted actors and lovely guys with great chemistry and charisma to boot. Netflix struck gold with them.

Did someone say it looks like he's limping? I can't breathe. Anyways, I hope it's just some summer fun.

R410 gotcha. I now think (and honestly this isn’t to start the Kit / Joe fucking shit) that Joe is absolutely all over people who didn’t pose a threat to Bash (Tobie/Connor) but he was more hesitant with Kit. I used to think it was because of the shipping, which was always a bit weird because of how he interacted with Kit on sm, but now I think it was because of Bash. If it was Bash being genuinely jealous or Joe just being considerate I think is an open question. But yeah, while I don’t think Joe is fully physically awkward I see what you’re basing your view on

I agree that Joe appears slightly ungainly sometimes but for some reason it makes him even more adorable and fuckable.

R414 he's naturally is kinda duck footed though like someone said, he likes big dick morons

R416 agreed. It’s part of the cute aggression thing. He’s cheeky and fuckable but also fucking adorable with the dimples and curls and mild awkwardness. Thinking of that gif where he bobbles around next to Ben Barnes at the con. Need him to raise his standards because he can get pretty much whoever he wants

R415 So I genuinely think Kit and Joe are both very hot, innately good people that genuinely care about each other and have excellent chemistry so they should totally fuck or date or whatever, but I can't lie and say I don't want it to happen down the line just so it fucks with Bash.

I just need that sidewalk photo but with Kit instead. And then we can all conclude they fucked. happily ever after.

R420 Netflix should tie up with Tesco to make those pictures happen. Best promo ever.

R421 they can strategically showcase their meal deals. Win win!

The Ben Barnes clip in question. Cute aggression very real

R418 that Ben Barnes gif is fucking adorable. There is another part in one of the con videos where Joe is flirting with Bash (RIP) and he’s got his head tilted clearly being a little shit. So much adorable material for those of us who want to pick him up and throw him around

Love this cheeky little fucker

R359 I think this is the most recent one? Maybe? It's been a really long time since he's posted a singing video.

R426 This is my favorite one of his singing videos, his “…and I’ve found, that I’m bound…” is really lovely.

R424 That con sustained both the "Joe needs to be thrown around" crowd and the Heartstopper fandom for an additional six months,

R428 notably when bash is out of the room

R428 another classic of the genre in this tweet. Joe can be thrown around so easily. It’s so hot

R430 I wonder why that photo never emerged. Love to see Kit with a handful of Joe’s tit.

R431 Those girls are the ones that were going around stalking the cast, same girls that stalked them to the pub after Joe and Will wrapped up The Trials. I think they ended up getting blowback from the fandom and locked all of their shit.

R431 I’m sadly too in fandom lore. The girls got accused of stalking them (they’re also the ones who took that photo with Will carrying joe, Jenny, Kit, bash, Nell, and Connor after the trials) and never posted it

R431 Because those fans are freaks who used to follow the cast everywhere. This is not based on anything but sometimes I feel like Kit wants to find excuses to touch Joe.

R434 I think Kit is a physically affectionate guy and joe is cute as hell and very cuddly. Plus from onscreen they’re used to it.

R435 Yeah, I think it's sweet. They looked really cute in all the con pictures.

Okay well that’s grim. Kit’s female fans are fucking weird. I’m just assuming they’re Kit fans - Joe doesn’t strike me as the sort of man that would inspire straight girls to stalk him

R437 I think they were most into Kit but honestly were generally celeb stalkers. One of their IGs was just full of them meeting various celebrities

R437 If you’re talking about that photo of Joe with the tattoo guy, it was posted on Twitter by a Joe stan.

Oh my bad, forget R439 but yeah they are definitely more fans of Kit. One of them tried to walk in his direction after the con.

Random, but I just noticed that Eric Kuhn liked one of Kit's British Vogue posts (doesn't follow him, though).

R441 the Kit and joe in a play together situation would thrill me, for real.

R439 nah, the missing con tit grab photo but there is definitely an uptick in photos of Joe taken without his knowledge. In the whole time he and Bash were together there were like a handful. Joe’s been seeing Tiny Tal for what, maybe two weeks, and he’s already been photographed with him. Seems like he must be more recognisable now

She has spoken! Shockingly less unhinged than I expected

Just asking once again how blessed one man can be. How does he have an ass like this being that skinny. And how do we convince holly he needs to be in tight shorts and sleeveless deep cut tight shirts forever

R442 I would singlehandedly sell that out.

R444 The unhinged stuff is definitely in her Circles or DMs. No way she's taking this well.

R444 Is she gonna link Bash to everything Joe does? How long until she gives up my gosh

R448 she makes bash sound like a jealous stalker. So for once she’s not wrong

Joe generally has a really appealing sweet smile but he truly makes Charlie, who is written to be so fucking boring in the show, so likable. Ditto Kit with nick

I’m a Joe guy and love his cheeky Charlie, but I’ve got to give it to the power of Kit Connor for turning the one dimensional, bland sack of cliche that is Nick Nelson, into the god of perfect boyfriends to girls and women everywhere. I‘m not minimising Kit or HS appeal to gay men, but the perfect boyfriend shit is mainly based on women’s reactions to Kit imo. We appreciate him differently…

The amount the two of them do to lift the material is incredible. Alice and Netflix should be more grateful tbh

R451 it’s miraculous. Charlie is a total fucking drip as written in the show and joe makes him fun and cute even though he’s also an anxious mess. And nick is straight up kind of a mediocre boyfriend but Kit makes him likable and a dream boyfriend. Alice contributed nothing except character names to them, i swear

You even pick up on the small acting decisions they make that elevate the material in the few glimpses of them in the teaser. The way Joe looks at Kit in the hallway, Kit's breathy delivery of the "yeah" towards the end, etc. Speaking of the teaser, no surprise as to which part is the most replayed.

R453 lol ofc it is. The way that Joe looks at Kit in that tiny bit of them standing in the hallway is staying with me ngl. I’ve said it before, but that looks like a guy half a second away from dropping to his knees. The ‘not ready for any kind of sex’ storyline is in shambles

Speaking of the teaser, I’m not sure it’s going to pique the interest of people who has never seen the show.

That'll come down to the full trailer with more context. That being said, I'm going to be annoyed if they don't take advantage of the acclaim and throw in "Emmy/RTS winner Kit Connor," "Emmy nominee Joe Locke," etc. into it.

R453 agreed re the small choices. Them eyeing one another’s lips constantly is another huge and very real one.

Joe posted a story about London Trans Pride, I wonder if he's going.

R458 Kizzy and Bradley also posted about it, maybe they'll go together

Yaz, Kizzy, Ash, and Bel (so the trans cast) are there. Yaz is speaking

Yaz looks good. She's also a really good public speaker. Just comes across as really commanding and confident.

Bash posted a screenshot of the paragraph write up he got in GQ. Apparently he was wearing full Miu Miu

For the curious, Nell has not yet been told to unfollow Joe. And her boyfriend has not been forced to unfollow him or Tattoo Tal

Nell doesn't seem like a moron. The Tal shit isn't too obvious yet. Doesn't seem like many people on twitter are deep enough in to the Joe lore to even know who he was walking with yesterday

R464 I fully believe Bash’s crazy ass is intensively monitoring what joe is up to, ngl. But while I’m sure she’s very much on Bash’s side and clearly closer to him, agreed that as a working 20 something year old actress (booking more than Geek Girl, a mediocre play, or 3 episodes of Stranger Things) she’s not going to be a complete dick to joe most likely. And while I side eye him for their age gap and generally seeming annoying, I can’t see a late thirties man having much patience for having to unfollow a tattoo artist because Bash is having a tantrum

R463 I don’t think Bash told his grown ass friends to unfollow Joe. I think the ones who did, did it because they wanted to. Doesn’t look like she wants to.

R466 I absolutely think he strongly encouraged his friends to do so. Emily Carey liked his post a day before she unfollowed him.

R453 The teaser doesn’t even have 1M yet. They really fucked up by dropping it unannounced on a Saturday.

R467 He’s still following Joe and hasn’t archived any posts yet. Doesn’t make sense for him to ask his friends to unfollow. And also that would just be a stupid thing to do.

The Joe hinge account thing made no noise outside of here

R470 good its insane that they even made that article

R469 Are you new to these threads? Multiple people from Bash's side have unfollowed Joe. There's a reason they are doing so.

R469 agree to disagree. I think he knows HS is the only reason he’s popular and pissed as he is he isn’t alienating the fanbase or frankly Alice and Patrick by making his obvious dislike public. You can think multiple unfollows are just their own choice but I think it speaks strongly to bash suggesting it even if only in a passive aggressive way

Didn't realize Joe recently followed a pretty exclusive club in Soho. Seems like he's having a good time staying there. Also someone said Joe's mom didn't follow Bash's mom on Threads, but they are mutuals now

R469 Bash not deleting anything but the dumb coffee song is just weird. Makes me believe he might be pissy at Joe, but isn't going to let people forget he was close to him.

R453 I hope they aren't just relying on fandom to get people to watch. Though HS comes out first so it'll be fine I'm sure. Might not have legs though. Tbh, the trailer is not going to do drastically different numbers than the teasers and first look (got 1.4 million).

R472 Are you new to logical arguments? These people are all adults that could have made that decision on their own. Connor, Rhea and all the ones who seem to be 'team bash' haven't unfollowed Joe.

R476 Imo it's less Bash forcing people to unfollow Joe and more like he's talking shit about Joe and then they unfollow him because they think he's an asshole. Also Rhea is a bad example because she's in the cast and it would be pretty awkward for her to publicly unfollow Joe.

R475 Joe's costars are not going to unfollow him. Bash and Joe won't unfollow each other. Amybeth won't unfollow Joe and Nell most likely won't, but you won't catch them ever liking a post by Joe again I'd bet. Connor seems to want to have it both ways, he'll like a Joe post but never respond to him again. The whole Emily Carey situation is just fucking weird since she liked a post by him the day before and hasn't unfollowed his finsta.

Nobody is saying Bash is telling people they gotta unfollow Joe anyway.

R476 We did get to see how much of an 'adult' Bash and his entire clan were the past few weeks. Rivetting stuff!

And yes, Bash isn't bitching about Joe. Everyone on Bash's side is just unfollowing Joe cause of personal reasons. It's just a coincidence that all of them are people Bash has been hanging out with.

Next we'll be having a conversation about how Bash wasn't being petty at all on the float.

I mean to me it’s not saying “bash is texting friends “unfollow joe””, its that I think he’s being about as subtle as a brick through a window in talking about how awful joe is, how hard it is for him to see the cast staying neutral and not defending him and it hurts to see friends do stuff like like his posts and still engage with him, and how he wishes he could unfollow Joe without any issues, and the dumber ones among them take the bait.

R478 Joe is smart and would know if someone is being fake nice to him. I don't see why he would respond to Connor's comment if they weren't cool. Maybe Connor realized all this petty thing wasn't about him and talked to Joe privately. And that's what R463 said.

R481 you really have to presume a lot of the stuff on this app is said half jokingly. As was 463. As I’ve said in other comments, I think bash is passive aggressively hinting at it and some people are taking the bait. I really don’t want to have to start using tone indicators a la twitter on here.

R479 Unless Bash's friends have the mental age of a 5-year-old, there's no way he has this much influence on who they're following. If they unfollowed Joe because he was bitching about him, they probably weren't that fond of him, to begin with.

Connor - takes 12 hours to like Joe's comment but never responds . Also Connor - immediately responds to Bash and likes everything related to him. Yeah, I'm sure he decided to be mature.

R484 Again, Joe has no reason to reply 'sexy xx' on his comment if he sensed Connor was being fake but that's just how I see it.

R483 you think it’s more likely that bash’s sister, parents, and multiple friends all secretly disliked joe for 2 years and were happy to unfollow ASAP than that someone who has been passive aggressively posting about joe for weeks and was a dick at the parade is strongly implying they should? Sometimes the simplest answer is just the correct one.

R485 or, as has been the theme of this breakup, joe and his side are much more mature and willing to keep the peace than bash’s. Kizzy isn’t out commenting hot girl summer on joes posts, joes friends aren’t unfollowing bashthe day after liking his posts, Joe has made the very conciliatory move of liking bash’s posts. Come on now.

It's just funny anytime Joe does something reasonable and mature that's never reciprocated people try to go with "they must have talked to each other privately" Bash fans said the same thing when Joe liked his post about his movie.

R486 Bash's mom hates Joe so much so she likes posts about him and hasn't unfollowed his mom. Yeah, that's it. Emily Carey also liked him enough to like his posts until the last second.

R486 I'm not talking about his family. I'm talking about his friends, especially his industry friends.

R488 Sure because Joe being nice to Connor has nothing to do with the fact that they have been friends for years and maybe talked in private. It's just Joe being the bigger person for no reason and entertaining Connor because he has nothing better to do. Which one sounds more like a stupid fan theory?

R490 We get it. Joe is a villain and that's why so many people ended up unfollowing him. And all of those people being very good friends with Bash and hanging out with Bash is just a mere coincidence. Bash just couldn't be bitching about Joe. Can you imagine Bash being petty and bitchy? Never!

R490 again, I highly doubt Emily, who hyped Joe with no need multiple times on her Twitter and IG and liked his post a day before she unfollowed him, had an issue with him. Billy I will grant never seemed close to him. But idk why you are so determined bash had no influence on them and isn’t being petty? He blatantly is. The cast of both Agatha and HS adores joe, people who meet him in the industry like him a lot (including Ncuti who follows and hypes joe but doesn’t follow bash, who he’s worked with). It’s not a coincidence that people bash is now giving time to suddenly have an issue with joe where they never did before. Again, doubt the secret answer is joe is a dick they always disliked. It’s more likely bash being petty, as he has been throughout this breakup.

Does Rosie have an alt or something? damn

Yaz looks amazing in this picture

Its always fun how Bash stans can never hide how unhinged they are.

R491 Loving it how you are conveniently not mentioning how Connor has been icing out Joe and has been very vocal about being Team Bash. But yes, we are the deluded ones and you are the only one who is sane for believing that multiple people from Bash's side ended up unfollowing Joe cause he's some villain.

R494 Maybe Rosie had some points because the way you guys jump on the 'Joe is a villain and you must hate him' every time someone has a different opinion is wild. I feel like I'm on twitter with a bunch of teenage girls.

Is this the bargaining stage?

R498 You literally implied that everyone on Bash's side ended up unfollowing Joe cause he was unlikeable. But do continue about how much you like Joe.

R498 You literally said everyone always hated Joe

R498 I didn’t leave that comment but you jumped to people not caring about kits problems by saying he was a supportive friend to joe last night. So maybe foot off the gas in that regard before you insist that joe fans are crazy

R493 Re-read my comments because I never said Bash isn't being petty. It's pretty clear he is. I said his friends would be dumb to unfollow Joe on his behalf when he's still following him and he kept all of their pictures on his profile.

R493

[quote] (including Ncuti who follows and hypes joe but doesn’t follow bash, who he’s worked with

Must hurt

R503 And the most reasonable explanation is his friends are just dumb instead of the nonsense you are coming up with

And Bash didn't unfollow Joe so he has no issue with him is just fucking stupid. They will never unfollow each other. And those pics are nice for clout.

R501 Where? I said maybe they weren't fond of him. Is it that hard to read properly and not jump to conclusions here?

R503 and again, I articulated above the clear reasons that I think bash is linked at r480. You can disagree and think I’m wrong, fair enough. I just think you’re wrong, and that’s fine

R596 and you were pointed to the fact that some of the very people who now have an issue with joe didn’t just follow him, they hyped him independently for things like his Emmy nom and marvel casting. Emily among them. So they weren’t just being nice to a friends boyfriend and secretly not that fond of him, unless they’re the fakest people ever.

R506

[quote] If they unfollowed Joe because he was bitching about him, they probably weren't that fond of him, to begin with.

Were never fond of him = never liked him. Stop arguing semantics. So Joe's the issue, but Bash is not because he hasn't unfollowed his costar. Amazing logic.

R502 And you were suggesting that Bash was crazy enough to send Joe's Hinge profile to the Sun. But sure, I'm the unhinged one.

R509 Because that is a logical argument. People unfollowing someone they liked just because their friends told them to is illogical. You don't have to agree but jeez relax with the Joe is a villain because no one said that.

R510 what? I literally never suggested that. My exact comment on it was “ Re bash, I say this as someone who can’t stand him, don’t think this has anything to do with him. He wouldn’t make Joe a cute likable profile with tame pics if he was trying to screw him over, let’s be real.”

R511 Only illogical to you, who seems to think Bash wouldn't be that petty

R511 Agreed. Your point about everyone from Bash's side unfollowing Joe cause they always found him unlikeable is the one that sounds logical. Even though it's only people close to Bash doing so but your point makes so much sense.

Bash can't be bitching about his ex cause he just can't be petty. We saw how saintly he behaved when he was on the float.

R511 it's immature but not illogical, happens all the time in clique-y friend groups

R513 Again, I never said Bash wasn't petty. But I don't care at this point. You guys can't read.

R516 I mean you literally attributed a fake comment to me, so idt you can read but ok

Completely changing the subject, not that it makes it better but pretty sure tattoo Tal is actually 29 and not 31. His family wished him happy 29th birthday in Sept of last year.

He's also Jewish, if you wondered about his dick

R518 at least he can defend Joe against the anti semitism accusations, silver linings.

Bash posted. He took his dad to the GQ event randomly. Connor has his post notifications on, he commented in only a few minutes. Truly hope the crofts are paying him or bash pity fucked him because this is pathetic.

I think that MiuMiu purse looks stupid on Bash tbf.

R518 Jenny and Alice liked the post.

I thought something had happened when I came back to so many new posts, Jesus.

R518 I would normally be into info about Joe's hookups but now every time I see his name I get vaguely nauseated. Going to need a new, better man to make his appearance ASAP.

R519 He could not look more awkward with that purse.

Anyway, found more pictures of Will's Vogue editorial. Great pictures.

This one is my favorite, I think.

R520

It does, it doesn’t work at all for him. Not even Miu Miu can save the look. The only ones who have managed to pull off a bag are Kit & Will. Joe we havent seen yet but i’d think he would pull it off too.

R521 Jenny, Alice, Pat, Rhea, Bradley, Bel.

R523 will is a truly great model

R521 Alice clearly isn’t taking sides because why advocate for her lead? Connor and bash kiss her ass, after all. Jenny is mature and I think staying out of it, plus doesn’t seem to spend too much time with the cast anyway

R525 fuck bug eyed rhea. Hope her career fails. Bradley and Bel I think are just genuinely nice people

Rhea also commented, because apparently she has decided in lieu of booking more work she’ll kiss another mediocre actors ass. Maybe she’ll land the next Cannes invite

Bash looks like a teenage boy who was forced to go to an event with his grandma and carry her purse for her

R522 I'll try not to mention him again unless it's more Joe related. Hopefully there's not much else. Though was wondering how old he actually was since everyone in the fandom reads here and kept repeating he was 31. Also a virgo for astrology anon

R530 honestly think we confused him with their oldest brother. He and joe are a hair under 10 years apart, then.

R531 Like exactly 10 years since ether birthdays are pretty close to each other

R530 The 31 is from the "this attention whore's equally attention whore-y brother has an annoying voice and sounds boring" Daily Mail article, it mentioned he was 26 at the time and is from 2018.

To me, 29 and 31 is the same. A 10-year gap isn't great. I just hope it's casual and nothing too serious.

Speaking of Rhea, I’ve always suspected that Rhea and Kit don’t like each other that much. They’re probably two of the active cast members that interact the least on social media and have been since the beginning. I was low-key shocked that she commented on his British Vogue picture.

Do we see Heartstopper's trailer doing this well?

R535 she’s always struck me as deeply annoying, not gonna lie, but I figured I was being mean. I know this is shitty but her posting multiple PSAs about how she recently got diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes but didn’t want anyone to treat her differently made no sense. It’s not HIV, there was no stigma.

Presuming her commenting on Kit is because she used to clout chase a bit via joe but now that she’s team bash she needs to cling to the other lead.

No because it's a second season trailer, not the first real look at a brand new adaptation.

R538 Same. And it's more adult. People have been waiting for this book adaptation for a long time.

Bash not posting trans march or trans rights at all on his story and posting a several days late event post. He is really not interested in beating the “doesn’t care about trans people” allegations. And if he does post it’ll probably be this sign with his usual riveting emoji commentary

R537 I have similar interests to Rhea so I don’t really disagree with what she says generally, but she seems incredibly pretentious about how she does it.

R540 Those dinosaurs make me do a full body cringe. Unlike some who have done campaigns he also didn't draw them in the first place

It's the way it would have been so easy for Bash to donate a couple grand to a trans rights organization himself and mention being against antisemitism as well but nope had to sell someone else's dinosaur doodles

R542 I don’t mind him not drawing them but it always rubs me the wrong way when the celebrities behind these choose love tshirts don’t credit the artist. As fellow creatives you’d think they’d have that courtesy. But yes, always funny that he made it sound like the entire product was his idea when Choose Love pitched it to him and handled all orders and sales, and hired an artist to design it. He just wrote a terribly written summary of the shirt and then pitched it. And even then joe was the one doing overtime hawking it.

Bash is liking all sorts of fan comments on his IG, about his outfit, some simple “we love you bash” ones, etc. guess he’s started to realise he has to pander absent joe.

R543 I don't care that much about Bash but I wonder if some of you would change the tides if Joe ever does something terrible. This place used to be very pro Bash and even supported him with the game disaster. I'm just curious what would be the discourse.

R546 No

R547 Yeah, I don't believe that because of the way things changed with Bash so quickly. This thread was basically a joebash fest.

R546 to be honest I think doing something terrible or being a dick is the key thing. I genuinely used to like bash a lot, and was a huge defender of his right after the breakup. Thought he ended it but also thought people saying he was a dick for doing so was really unfair, thought calling his play mediocre was silly, and believed he and joe could be friends and ending a young relationship was hard but fine. He’s just been such a relentless twat for weeks, and the way Joe reacted to him at the parade, the way the cast seemed worried for joe, and some patterns of behavior that seem suspect in retrospect are what turned me off. Even then I don’t think he’s evil, just an immature dick.

I don’t know what Joe would do exactly but if he did something super shitty in the future or was clesrly being this big a dick to a friend or ex, yeah, I would reevaluate him for sure.

And if you look back at the support Bash got it's because a lot of people expected him to do more than he did. I expected a donation or a fundraiser along with a matching donation, something along those lines. Though after awhile, it was done and it wasn't really his fault JKR is a cunt. He still handled it poorly given that he had years to figure out how to respond.

Not to mention most people here just let things slide with him because of Joe. The only thing I will defend him on is speaking about Ben.

I will also note a lot of this being thrown back in his face is because at the time DL defended him, Joe also defended him to some extent and got shit all over on by the fans for it. So I think seeing how ungrateful he is for how much Joe went to bat for him in the way he’s treating him now means it’s open season. Frankly, while I used to really like bash, I did also always think the shirt was sort of bad activism, thought not giving a donation was tone deaf, and cringed that he misgendered the person he replied to re the game, but wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt as he seemed to be genuinely nice. Now not so much

R549 Like someone mentioned the pipeline from perfect boyfriend to toxic ass fuck ex is rare, so it made a lot of people rethink their initial opinion of him. Nobody here was against him after the breakup at all. Bash has yet to give one sign that he's willing to be even slightly mature concerning Joe. Joe already did with liking posts that had Bash in them and liking the post about his movie. It's his move.

R546 Not to sound like a delusional stan but im struggling to imagine what the horrible thing would be. He's clearly not a bigot, and is more lowkey relationship wise so publicly alienating an ex would most likely not happen.

If I can be brutally honest, all of bashs appeal was that he seemed like a great boyfriend to Joe and seemed really sweet. Plus to some people attractive, tastes varied. No visible great talent in acting or singing, didn’t find him funny or overly intelligent, not an activist or groundbreaking, and while I don’t think he owes anyone this, he’s not out so not even someone to root for as an out gay guy. I did find him attractive but petty behavior is a turn off. And he’s clearly the ex from hell and not nearly as nice as he tried to seem so that appeal is gone too. If Joe was a total dick I’d probably like him less but he’d still be funny, charismatic, extremely talented, and politically motivated which is attractive to me. So it wouldn’t be the 180 I felt in bash. Ditto kit, who I think also has joes traits.

I used to really like Bash, but his recent actions have made me rethink his previous behavior. We see very little of celebrities lives and my mental picture of Bash has dramatically changed. If Joe or Kit did something to shift my mental picture, I would judge accordingly. I’m a fan, not a stan. My opinion is changeable. But I do still think Joe and Kit are very sweet guys that are extremely non-problematic. So I don’t my mental image will shift drastically the way it has with Bash.

Not saying Joe's perfect, but the 'wrong' thing he's likely to do are things all young gay men do so it seems unlikely anyone here are ever going to turn on him. Do I like that he's fucking around with a clout chasing short old guy? no, but we've all been there. I think the OF Nick thing was risky given who he is, but Nick turned out to be a good guy, but again that's not something anyone here would hold against him.

R552 I thought maybe him liking the gaytimes posts was a start. I also thought they'd be able to talk or interact at Pride but them ignoring each other the whole time was very telling. I wonder if Bash ever tried to break the ice or not.

R556 yeah, if all bash did was “young and made a mistake”, whatever, wouldn’t have an issue. It’s the active malice.

R557 honestly bash made a point of getting in joes space while ignoring him several times in a way that was legitimately creepy. So I hope he matures but I also hope Joe stays away from him

R553 That's why I don't want Joe and Kit to be a thing because if they broke up and ended up like this, it would be hell. The Joe stans and Kit stans would burn hstwt to the ground.

R553 tbh, I don't think it's a great idea but Kit and Joe have a foundation of friendship Joe and Bash don't have, they were never friends. They went straight into boyfriends. And Joe and Kit aren't immature cunts

R560 Kit isn't Bash.

R562 Which would be worst because Bash makes it easy to dislike him now. Kit or Joe would not do petty things publicly so we'd be left with nothing to speculate on. R554 People used to say he was the better actor with Joe and Kit so I don't know if I trust that completely.

R563 I’d wager some of the people who said that he was one of the best are the few remaining bash Stans. I think a lot of people commenting on it now never thought he was amazing, some outright always thought poor and some thought fine, not great, but are being dramatic for humor now. I’ve said before personally that I think he was better than for instance Yaz and tobie, around kizzy level, but that given kizzys lack of experience that was not great for bash, and that he was outacted by Kit, joe, cori, and Jenny. Tbh I’m not exactly sure what your point is. I think people have articulated why they think of bash differently now. You can not believe them, but this seems like sort of a pointless path to go down if you’re not open to changing your mind.

R563 In what universe would that be worse? We'd just wish them both well and keep it moving. What's worse is what's going on now with Bash being an enormous douche.

Also, for the record, I consistently said Bash was a shit actor on here and I know I wasn't the only one.

R563 also I just don’t think being low key and not petty means people would speculate in the sense of taking sides on Kit and joe. This is all a hypo as I doubt they’ll ever hook up or date. But even though there are no Maia Stans on the forum, aside from calling her a bad actress (which people also said during the relationship) and saying she fumbled with Kit, no one has shit on her, because she hasn’t been a total dick. Recently people have even mentioned that they get her being frustrated she’s always associated with Kit. Bash is being uniquely shitty. Thus people dislike him more. People won’t hate Kit and joe for being chill and amicable.

R564 I was always impartial to the Joebash love story. I just find it weird because like I said this whole thread was talking like they were going to get married and how much people loved their relationship. I understand why people changed their minds, but it was very sudden.

R567 ok, I think it was about as sudden as bash’s change in behaviour. Minus the one person saying mediocre play since minute one (shout out) people were really nice about bash until he started acting a dick. Being a piece of shit to a 19 year old does tend to turn people off, don’t think it’s surprising that a sudden reveal of poor character leads to a sudden dislike from people

Are those same people even still around? If Twitter's indicative of anything, it's that the most invested were almost always Bash stans more than anything else. Those people must have run for the hills already.

R568 The disrespect.

R566 Maia is a good example. R568 This is why I was wondering if people were holding out their real thoughts about Bash because of the relationship and how 'good' a bf he was and turns out, some were. I'm wondering if some are doing the same secretly with Joe and Kit.

R570 jog my memory of your og hate! But fine, I will clarify: most people including bash liked him even after the breakup until he started being a piece of shit

I never really liked Bash, but I’m not a complete asshole so I wouldn’t talk shit unprovoked. I only criticized when prompted to (last in hotness rankings, last in acting rankings, etc.) because I didn’t think there was a point to being a douche for the hell of it out of nowhere. He’s providing plenty of material now, though.

R571 as the person who made both comments I’ll reply! ymmv but as someone who has made some of those true colors comments, I think what most people are saying is in retrospect a lot of things that initially rubbed them the wrong way but they shrugged off because bash seemed so sweet and joe seemed happy are a bit more troubling now that bash has shown to have a lot more malice in his character. Again, no one side eyed these immediately post breakup, because he wasn’t being a dick at that point.

R572 I've always, always dragged him for his acting. If anyone was talking shit about his delivery of "don't let the game go soft" or about how whiny he was in the assault scene it was probably me. I also would make comment about Joe's next boyfriend and about them not lasting because they're so young that used to piss people off. I talked shit about his response to the HP game stuff, too.

Never liked Bash even when he was with Joe. Got jumped on here as well for calling his play mediocre right after the break up but stuck to my opinion of him. He always struck me as the clout chasing type and that was off-putting for me right from the start.

Going to randomly speculate based on Kit not liking bash’s post yet and joe posting about but not attending trans pride that they’re doing some press today

Think I was right. Trust a queer man to get the most important angle, ass shots.

Soho house festival, by the way.

R578

truly we need the gays to be in charge of the candid shots

Seems like they might be hanging out and not doing press? Who knows. That's where Joe got caught by DM last year, so hopefully no middle aged frau are there if they are chilling

Soho house festival, where the DM pics of bash’s hand on joes ass were taken last year. I welcome Kit and joe to recreate that this year

R581 Kit has a mic, which is what’s interesting

Oh yeah, missed the mic. So probably work.

Random guess, maybe one of the artists there is on the soundtrack and they’re announcing that

Kit just posted the same trans pride post Joe did.

That’s sweet. He and joe both seem really invested in the entire community. And they get on great with the adults on set which is nice

R578 Joe's ass is literally perfect.

R586 lmao hilarious to go on twitter and see everyone who ignored not only joe but also Yaz, the actual person who spoke at pride, posts having meltdowns of gratitude over this? Love Kit but the hype there is always odd

R589

yeah seeing those tweets already. i know we all have our faves but its literally the bare minimum. like???

R588 Thank the gay god that Marvel has him in some skinny jeans in Agatha.

R589 I guess it depends on your timeline, I saw a lot of people hype Yaz

R590 tbh I think it’s sweet of both him and joe to post, and I think I should also clarify that for trans fans, I totally defer to them on their favs. Seeing your favorite cis celebrity validate you is nice. Embarrassing but as a babygay stanning pop divas seeing my fav support gay people did move me. But it’s the cis fans who ignored Yaz at pride that I’m rolling my eyes at,

R590 I've seen pictures of Yaz and Joe's insta story all over my timeline so maybe it's just the people you follow?

R594 I follow very few accounts so I think I’m just seeing the big accounts on my suggested tag. Those tend to skew towards teen girls who want to fuck Kit so it probably is just that, you’re right. I’ve seen some trans fans really happy which as I said above, I get - your fav uplifting you feels great when you are young.

Imagine following anyone but update accounts, but just searching his name you see a few who ignored Joe and Yaz and say Kit called them beautiful, etc. Seems pretty harmless anyway

R578 The size difference is so hot.

R597 I just need them to fuck

Hopefully Joe and Kit just get to hang out at the festival too - I don’t know enough about it to guess what sort of promo they’d be doing there.

R596 If you only follow update accounts then you would see their posts firsts from the joelocke update account or the yaz ones. I've seen Joe stans ignore Kit's story. It's not a big deal.

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