MSNBC - Part 48

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MSNBC - Part 47

Michael Steele's suit jacket made his shoulders look massive today. I did a double take.

He's a hot daddy!

I find Michael Steele incredibly sexy but I have a feeling in person he's got a big-assed pear- shaped bottom.

Weird that without MJ CM had to show up on Alexe's show tonight.

Lawrence O'Donnell has been on fire lately.

Hey Rashida, replay his Corrupt Illegitimate Supreme Court episode as a SPECIAL!

I love Laurence's recurring three man panel.

Lawrence torching the Leo Court.

r4, there is something hot about Michael. I would hit it.

There is already another MSNBC - Part 48 thread, likewise started prematurely on 06/21, by another Tracy Flick wannabe.

What is with DL'ers practically wetting themselves, tripping over each other to start the next thread in the series? Just strange.

Starting new threads or parallel threads is complicated. The main thing is that threads are continued. DLers usually figure out which ones continue. Stop fretting, it's an organic process.

Complicated? You're joking. No one's fucking fretting, other than the sweaty nosepicker OP's.

OK, this is the Friday of a week when most anchors took the week off.

Lawrence has been a trooper and has had some stellar shows.

Not even Ari can Rap himself to a decent show.

I am praying for Monday.

《《 BEAR KING NEWS 》》 Alex Witt working on a Friday!

I don’t believe in artificially closing threads, OP. Tsk.

Katy Tur is being bitchy about Biden....again. I really wish they would get rid of her.

Molly Jong Fast is one ugly lady!

Made ever more apparent by Paul Riekhoff, one beautiful man.

[quote] OK, this is the Friday of a week when most anchors took the week off.

Fwiw, Tur, Wallace, Melber, Hayes & Reid were all on Wed thru Fri.

Wagner was in yesterday, we'll see about tonight. Ruhle MIA so far this week.

Look at that purple eyeshadow on Symone!!!

Steph Rhule forgot she works as a primetime anchor.

Wishes she still had that Wall Street schedule.

For some twisted reason, I hope Rachel takes Monday off, too. I have found I can live without her and her shilling.

Am I off posting sit out?

I see you, R22

Thankk you r23. Escrivo ergo suum.

Does anyone know if the MSNBC documentary about Oppenheimer has premiered yet? Or when it will be shown?

Or if you've seen it if it's any good?

TIA!

R25, it premieres tonight at 10pm ET.

Chris Hayes is going to lose his Mondays 8pm spot to Joey S.

Why is Nicolle still remote???

So Chris Hayes is never gonna work a Monday again?

Guess if Lawrence & Steph do it on Fridays…

the alleged ball kicking.

Rachel, as usual is great, but her reports on all these horrible dangerous GOPs are truly scary.

Love it.

Going to each commercial break tonight, it was "We'll be right back, on The Beat with Jason Johnson". He did slip a "sitting in" once.

But I'm sure Ari is very secure.

Eww Jason Johnson has balls to do that to Ari.

Most fill-ins don’t use their own names on the anchors shows.

You know that Ari is a wigger. He probably gave Jason his blessings.

I wonder why Michael Steele doesn't have his own show. He does a great job when he fills in for others.

What is the deal with Jonathan Lemire’s hair? I know he dyes it, but how much of that bouffant is actually his? He also seems gayer every time I tune in!

The original fat bastard, Chris Christie,, is on Morning Joe this morning.

I like Katy Tur's haircut, it looks good.

Katy Tur looks like a snarky soccer mom.

Is Nicolle remote for the whole summer bc of her kid?

She needs to get her ass back to the studio like everyone else has to, including Mika & Joe.

Remember when these assholes said everyone has to return to work/school but they get to stay at home.

Kurt Bardella is cute. I would definitely hit it.

R42 Wasn't he Corey Lewandowski's bottom bitch when they both happened to be at the same GOP event back in his Breitbart days. He had something of a fixation with Corey's floppy whiskey dick.

WHET Corey Lewandowski?

I love Ali Velshi. My dream Line up would be Ali, Lawrence O Donnell, Rachel, Chris Hayes and Stephanie Ruhle. Once in a while Ari Melber and once in a while Rev. Al. Yes.

I swear, one day Joe is going to really go off on his lame brain wife. She is as intolerant of any criticism of Biden as Trump's ass lickers about him. Legitimate, rational and unemotional criticism or concern about something Biden has said or done does not mean a person does not support him and vote for him. Pretending some of his emotional or physical stumbles aren't bait for the Repugs is not realistic. Mika is far too emotional. Plus, the show is Morning Joe, not Morning Mika.

It should be Morning Mika.

R47 I know they're married, but do they actually live together day to day?

I recall Joe mentioning that he'd move in if it weren't for all her animals.

[quote] WHET Corey Lewandowski?

DL search results: WHET 715 hits, WEHT 122 hits.

WTH does WHET mean?

I'm sick of Mika yelling the news. I always need to lower the volume.

R49

I'm guessing someone accidentally typed WHET instead of WEHT (What Ever Happened To) once and it was apparently considered funny for some reason and henceforth became DL tradition.

You're not supposed to type WEHT anymore.

[quote] Kurt Bardella is cute. I would definitely hit it.

I was surprised to discover that Kurt Bardella's other passion besides politics is country music. He publishes a daily newsletter about the country music industry. I never would have pegged him as a big country music fan.

Wow there are a lot of newbies here. 20-25 years ago “WEHT” was the “Bearking” of that era.

I like All In With Chris Hayes

Don't forget about us !

I agree about Chris, and also Lawrence. As I age, I appreciate more passionate anchors

I am sure it's been said here but Peter Strzok (sp?) is HOHOTHOT. I almost can't hear what he's saying cuz I'm imagining what he looks like shirtless, and his surely beautiful cock.

I don't find him hot but I sure do find him gay.

He does ping a bit

Joe droning on about how the Southern Baptists used to be so much better when they were only racists and not power hungry fascists is remotely amusing. He has launched cult like apologias on how his cult church was so much better decades ago. He stops short of the complete exegesis as the Southern Baptists only have biblical interpretation and precious other beliefs.

Mika in BARBIE VALENTINO pink.

Christ, somebody get Willie some Chap-Stik stat

It's painful to look at. Like multiple fissures in his lips. Creepy.

R57 When I look at Strzok I always picture him as if in the school photo of a 3rd-grader.

Willie looks GHASTLY this morning, like walking death!

Who did Willie’s makeup this morning? Baby Jane Hudson?

Baggie of Cocaine

Nicolle is obsessed, her show is definitely boring when she is remote.

Katy Tur's haircut is awful. When is that friggin style going to die?!

R68. MSNBC reporter Ali Vitali (CNN Jeremy Diamond's girlfriend) just cut her hair in that same style--but even shorter. It looks like shit.

How dare these women cut their hair without DL approval?!

^^ They may cut their hair, but obviously they didn't have a gay man consulting and supervising this unwelcome change.

Ali Vitali has been showing major crazy eyes with this latest assignment. I like her, and hope it was just nerves.

I don't get how Nicolle being out of the studio is a big deal? Other than hair and makeup.

Hubby Michael looking rather masc today with his s&p stubble.

I love that Alex has The Circus crew on the panel tonight.

John Heilemann looking hot & rough at the same time.

Eager to hear about Season 8 Part Deux, or Season 9 whichever it is.

The first 6 episodes of season 8 are worth the 30-day Paramount+ free trial. Still not fully able to get into Yellowjackets.

They went out for dinner and are back on Morning Joe.

Andrea Mitchell’s sharpness with cleavage is awesome.

Heilemann and Palmieri at least made a change of clothing.

McKinnon same scarf, shirt, jacket and hat. That hat deserves a chin strap.

Do we ever see Heilemann standing up?

Stand on those spindly legs?

Did John Heilemann split up with his wife?

He has been acting weird lately, stopped his podcast, took off the wedding ring after 15yrs, no longer on the other MSNBC shows.

Something smells fishy 🐠

UGH Chris Jansing is the worst.

Obsessed with poll numbers like Andrea.

[quote] Hubby Michael looking rather masc today with his s&p stubble.

Why'd he shave? That was looking good, or interesting at the very least.

Not so pleasant for a given cunnilingus recipient, perhaps.

Where is Mike? Their summer home?

I think that's his sparsely furnished house. Prior to their betrothal, he usually connected from there. Lots of video of him in front of an empty bookshelves, and bare exposed rafters.

They keep separate domiciles?

[quote] Do we ever see Heilemann standing up?

Saw him walk out on the Colbert show once, nothing out of the ordinary. Long legs, slightly more slender than you might expect.

With the surround camera pans on MJ, I noticed he does have a pronounced neck hot dog. Only one, but healthy-sized.

What is a neck hot dog? Is that the fold around the back of the neck on some people?

I saw John Heilemann once in Eataly NYC.

His mannerisms come off feminine, if I didn’t know he was married to a lady, I would have thought he was part of the team.

Any photos out there of a young Heilemann with hair? Though I have a feeling the baldness actually helped his looks.

R89 Right.

R91 Sporting a nearly full head of hair.

Yikes! Did baldness ever do as much for a man as John Heilemann??

He was also fat in the face, which he is not now.

Nicolle back in the studio, how long will that last?

[quote] Nicolle back in the studio, how long will that last?

I'm fascinated by this as well. Will she be in the studio on Wednesday?

And what about Friday? We'll see. But the anticipation...

I hope Jonathan Lemire never does Morning Joe alone again. Yawn.

Can’t stand that clickbaiter, Jonathan Lemire.

He would definitely suck off Joe S & Willie G if he could.

Molly Jong Fast is no match to Jen Psaki & Eddie Glaude.

Why isn't Chris Hayes on?

Rashida gave Scarborough the slot for his Oppenheimer Special.

I don’t think Chris really does shows on Mondays anymore.

Oh.

Thanks, r102.

And that Scarborough was taped avoided an awkward, or, more likely, no hand-off banter, from Joe to Rachel.

Those two dislike each other from Way Back.

Did Morning Joe ever exist without Mika as a co-host? What (if anything) were her MSNBC duties before Morning Joe?

One shocking dismaying story after another on Rachel tonight. Glad I'll be dead in the next 20 years.

R105 Mika used to fill-in for other MSNBC hosts, before Joe moved Scarborough Country to the mornings as MJ in 2007. He dumped Pat Buchanan for her. I think Willie joined them shortly thereafter.

Joe in the studio gives off a different vibe than that remote shit.

Time to get out of the house and go back to work.

Remember when Joe was screaming that yo the teachers who were scared ti go back to school, but he sat comfortably in his home studio MSNBC built for them.

"Imus in the Morning" was the immediate precursor to "MJ".

Yes, it's true. The "liberal" MSNBS hosted Imus every morning. I tuned in every day, although Imus was a terrible person, and so was his side-kick Bernard.

If you watched Imus enough, however, you knew part of it was schtick.

All the then establishment DC Big-Wigs, including Tim Russert, Clarence Page, Andrea Mitchell, would appear by telephone. Scarborough, too. Trump phoned in regularly, too.

I think it was remotely possible that Imus could've saved himself and the show by, as soon as he repeated Bernard's slur about the Rutgers women's basketball team - "Nappy-headed Hos" - he would've realized how terrible those words were, stopped his show-mid-air, traveled immediately, in-person to Rutgers, and stated an apology.

He didn't do that, though. He was canned, as he should have been.

And, there, waiting in the wings, was his young, ambitious, up-and coming guest, Scarborough. MSNBC offered him that time slot and here we are.

Ooops-

Imus wasn't immediately canned. Bernard was. Imus was allowed to try to keep his show going and its new iteration either failed, or, by mutual agreement, Imus quit.

Then, enter Scarborough.

Wasn't Joe S a Congressman for awhile before he went into TV?

Joe was in the limo with Trump during the first inauguration. He and Mika helped him rise to power in 2015-2016. They also had KellyAnne Conway on almost weekly leading up to the election.

Joe was big on impeaching Clinton in 1998-1999. Mika didn’t like Hilary because Bill didn’t give her dad the job he wanted in 1993.

Joe was a big fan of Rex Tillerson being SOS in the beginning.

The relationship between Joe and Trump only collapsed later.

Never forget who people are. They may wash their face and put on a clean dress…but underneath it all, this is the political environment Joe fought FOR for 25 years.

And yes…he still hates Rachel and Rachel still hates him.

What is it with MSNBC and OPPENHEIMER? They've been shilling this film for weeks and, of course, they did the accompanying documentary on the subject. Is there some official connection?

Is there an intern at MJ that keeps going out to buy coffee for the hosts and guests from Starbucks, Dunkin' Donuts, Wawa, etc?

There are so many "ex-Republicans" of whom I am suspicious and think that once TFG is eradicated, they'll find a way to go back. Even if they may trash all the Republicans that are not challenging TFG . Which is all. of them.

Charlie Sykes is a Republican I'm keeping my eye on. He hates and is appalled by TFG, and speaks harshly of him and current Republican policies on MSNBC, but I see he also promotes Republican Twitters and was apparently also virulently Republican before TFG fell from grace. I had no idea, from his appearances on MSNBC, that he had been a Republican.

The only "ex-Republican" I trust is David Jolly (was R-FL) - who has repudiated his fellow Republicans, has officially left the party - so many of them have not - and is the only one that has said, very plainly, the only way to fix all this is to never vote for another Republican, and vote Democratic. He actually said that on air.

On MSNBC, Jolly's "title" says "No Longer Affiliated with GOP". Sykes, for example does not claim that. I haven't read Tim Miller's book, so I have no idea if he'll be back on the Republican bandwagon as soon as they clean up the shit.

And I never hear any of them admit that the policies they supported before TFG helped TFG rise to power. For them, it's like the immaculate conception; no one got fucked and yet still they ended up pregnant.

BTW - Why do Rachel and Joe hate each other?

The Republican party will NEVER find its way back to whatever the fuck it was before Trump so I really don't see any of those former MSNBC Republicans like Miller and Sykes returning. Even if Trump died today it wouldn't matter, that ship has sailed.

R115, one evening both Joe and Rachel were both on for one of those multiple pundit occasions.

It must’ve been an election night, the SoTU, or one of the national conventions.

Anyway, I saw it live.

Rachel made a made an observation that Joe responded to in that “I’ll school you” patronizing, condescending way he has.

Rachel wasn’t having it and responded accordingly.

It went back and forth a couple of times, both in argumentative tones, until the other very aware and embarrassed panelists managed to figuratively separate the two and move on.

To use a tired cliche, the tension coming from my tv screen was palpable and I remember while watching it thinking, “ Whoah, It’s on!” between those two.

And ever since, I’ve never seen another segment, or hand-off where both Maddow and Scarborough were present.

Fun to see two Aries fight it out. Sorry I missed that. I absolutely hate Scarborough as I remember him in that 1994 Congressional class with Puke Getrich. MJ has too much of his bluster, plus I remember he and Mika being enthusiastic Trumpers until he turned on them. I’m definitely Team Rachel, though she can be smug.

I think Joe is irritated by any woman who is smarter than he is.

Surely, MSNBC has some questions for Miss Lindsey. Why doesn’t Jonathan Lenore interview her on Way Too Early?

Oh wait, at that hour Miss Lindsey may still be hungover and sleeping.

^Jonathan Lemire

R112 Right, despite their current positions, lest we forget, the joke at the time of the WH Correspondents Dinner was,

“‘Morning Joe’ has their head so far up Trump’s ass they bumped into Chris Christie.”

[quote] What is it with MSNBC and OPPENHEIMER? They've been shilling this film for weeks and, of course, they did the accompanying documentary on the subject. Is there some official connection?

Same parent company. Oppenheimer is distributed by Universal Pictures. MSNBC is owned by NBCUniversal. It's like the way ABC is always shilling anything Disney.

[quote] Yes, it's true. The "liberal" MSNBS hosted Imus every morning. I tuned in every day, although Imus was a terrible person, and so was his side-kick Bernard.

MSNBC didn't become a "liberal" network until the 2008 presidential campaign, when it hitched a ride on the popularity of Obama. Before then, there were lots of conservatives on MSNBC who either hosted shows or were commentators, including Alan Keyes, Michael Savage, Pat Buchanan, and Tucker Carlson. MSNBC was also a big cheerleader for the Iraq War, at least at first, during Bush's presidency.

I didn't know that, R124. Interesting. One thing I remembered was that Phil Donahue was supposed to be one of their main talking heads but Chris Matthews managed to get rid of him (how I don't know).

[quote] BTW - Why do Rachel and Joe hate each other?

It goes back to 2008, when Scarborough argued with Maddow on air and then stormed off the set.

Where was Nicolle, Joy & Chris today???

Steph is out too tonight.

Rashida should get some new primetime anchors.

SYMONE!!!

That Shermichael Singleton on with Symone now is so damn cute! The open shirt collar suits him.

[quote]Shermichael Singleton, Republican Political Strategist and Political Commentator

What's his story these days? Attractive man. Doesn't count if you're a Republican.

Nicolle Wallace looks like a hot mess today.

Ari looks (and sounds) like he doesn't give a fuck tonight.

4pm and onward.

These anchors do not give a fuck.

R132 Even Carol looks fresher. At her beach house.

Never see Phil any more.

Why do you suppose Phil never appears on MSNBC any more? Does he still co-write news articles with Carol?

Phil & Ashley Parker got thrown out in the trash after the last election. They were addicted to the clickbait stories Trump gave them.

I miss Phil's tasteful home.

Phil hasn’t posted on Instagram since March, maybe something is going on

Oh noes! Get up, little Phil - we love you!!

Wait - he's very active on Twitter and promoting the Washington Post a lot, so I assume he's still employed.

Phil WHO? Who the fuck y’all talking about?

Rucker

A couple weeks ago he showed up as part of a 3 person remote panel on with Stephanie. Against a regulation studio backdrop, not his charming dining area. He looked well enough.

I want to see Phil figure skating - there must be videos if he was thinking about going pro. Such a CUTIE! Keep him on tv!

Secretary Blinken was most gracious with that old hag Andrea rambling on and on. Who does she have the goods on that her incompetence is allowed to go on?

Symone in BARBIE pink !

Molly Jong Fast’s FIL passed away this weekend and she has been all over the MSNBC show’s Saturday & Sunday.

Why is she on soo much these days? Aiming for a contract?

I never see Philip Rucker's byline in the Washington Post anymore so he may be promoting them on Twitter but he's not writing for them. He might be on leave again to write another book.

R149 Would a White House Bureau Chief do their own reporting, or primarily oversee others?

I guess because Phil has held that title since 2014, the answer would be yes.

Lemire is obsessed with Trump, its making me nauseous. And the way he acts it out as he reads the teleprompter. Ugh replace this fool.

The Nation is obsessed with the twice impeached, loser rapist. Not just Lemire.

Wondering if Rachel will show up today to promote her podcasts and movie deals.

So the Senate no longer works Mondays? Just like Chris Hayes!!!

1/2 days on Tuesdays & Thursdays, only 1 full day on Wednesdays.

They get paid $175,000 plus pension working less hours than most ppl in Corporate America.

Never feel bad for Senators or their spouses/kids.

Most run for Senate so they can get away from their families plus the EGO of POWER.

Chris Jansing talks about Trump like its 2016.

Get her and Andrea out of there.

Jen Psaki is filling in for Chris Hayes this week.

The dude only works 4 days a week and takes weeks off at a time.

Someone needs to take over that 8pm slot permanently.

I think Rashida is going to compare Jen's numbers with the Rachel/Alex week's for the day that Rachel's once a week/month(?) Contract ends.

Joe Scarborough needs to show for Morning Joe more frequently. He brings the energy and can deliver some piercing commentary.

Today, it was Lemire, no Joe, Willie, or Mika. I don’t miss Mika when she’s away.

Lemire is OK. But too much of him dampens my enthusiasm to keep watching.

That's why it's called Morning Joe.

R158 I never miss Know Your Value Mika or her loud voice when reading the news.

Lemire is just so boring, dull, and full of himself.

Scarborough can take a permanent vacay. He is a pompous, blowhard Republicant who was a Trumper until Jabba the Trump went after Mika for her shoddy plastic surgery. Mika is not much better. I hope they die fucking each other. Blech. 🤮

It was the other way around with Scarborough and Trump.

First he turned on Trump (after he had been in office about a year or two) and then Trump made the comment about Mika's face-lift.

In fact the turnaround was the reason Trump went after her.

That doesn't make the duo less problematic; I'm just pointing out the timeline.

Why did MSNBC cut off President Biden's speech about inadequate mental health healthcare? I was listening to that!

Random that Chris Hayes picked Mondays to no longer work than Fridays?

Joy got a white hair bowl cut?

Jen Psaki filling in for Chris is wonderful, and I like Chris.

Nicolle Wallace made it to the studio today.

These ppl make enough money to get their asses to the studio to go to work like the rest of us do.

Other than her makeup, what difference does it make to you, r168, where Nicolle is when she hosts her show?

And her clothes, and the look of her show. She doesn’t even have a good camera set-up. These anchors need to come to the studio, look how Morning Joe is soo mucb better when Joe and Mika show up for work.

Her clothes, r170??

WTF do her clothes have to do with anything?

The shade of green Jen Psaki is wearing looks wonderful with her hair.

Joy looked great tonight. Make up was on point and loved the bare arms.

Alex Wagner needs to get back in the studio, she hasn’t even worked a year to deserve remote status.

I think Alex Wagner is flawless in her choice of garments.

R167 Psaki is nailing it every night. Looking great, and delivering a clean, effortless performance. Others may have reasons to worry.

And I think Chris is perfectly justified in taking one or two weeks of vacation. Anticipating his return.

[quote] …look how Morning Joe is soo mucb better when Joe and Mika show up for work.

They do look and sound better in studio. Interactions at the table usually is the better format with contributors and guests.

It would be interesting to know what their contracts say in terms of days-off, vacation time, required availability, etc.

I suppose there is a lot of flexibility offered to seasoned anchors who are scheduled to be at work by 5am or so.

Morning Joe talks a lot about baseball games the night before, Some of those games get extended to well into the night. I find it difficult to believe they all are “up” that late.

R177

All of their shows were better pre-covid when they showed up for work in the studio having those dynamics at the table with the panels.

Pre-covid they didn’t go to their summer homes and remote it in. Its just hypocritical since Joe ranted and raved for everyone to get back to work but now all of them are in their basement studios putting on shitty looking shows.

David Muir never used his basement studio, just saying 👀

Muir doesn't use a basement studio, he 's in the closet.

[quote] David Muir never used his basement studio, just saying

Maybe his basement is full of gay wall art and sex toys that he couldn't hide.

Morning Joe is so boring without Joe. Snooze fest with Willie and Lemire.

The entire afternoon has been consumed with the Superceding Indictment out of Florida. All of the talking heads are fixated on more of the same obstruction crap. The jewel in the Indictment is the National Defense Information document that Trump waived at Bedminster. Wait for the CIPA documents to be listed once the security clearances are completed. Trump, charged under ESPIONAGE. Espionage still covers the Death Penalty. Mr Smith is a War Crimes Prosecutor. Trump will swing.

Andrew Weismann!!!

Conor Lamb is on with Steph and is just adorable.

And now we have the hot David Gura in the best fitting skinny jeans on late night TV. Those thighs! Those calves!! Love seeing a guest like him in an easy chair with no desk where we can observe his whole form. I've missed him.

[quote]Andrew Weismann!!!

Soooooooo. . .

[quote] Soooooooo. . .

He kept referring to Tim Heaphey as Teeyiiiim....

R186 David Gura, please what venue was this?

Our Phil has got some kind of promotion - named "National Editor of the Washington Post" - helming a department of more than 150 journalists!

Woohoo! But I still want him on tv.

Love MJ without all the loud bluster of the host, droning on about the Boston Red Sox, constantly interrupting guests with diatribes that are entirely self-referential. The SNL parody was hilarious, but definitely restrained.

Where’s John Heilemann ? Noticed he is not on the shows anymore besides MJ.

David Gura was Steph's final guest last night, r189. I wish he was back on MSNBC in a regular spot.

Yeah r193, I wish Gura’s sexy ass could be back as a regular too. He could actually take Stephanie’s spot. I can’t stand her manly, rude ass.

John was just on.

I think John's work on The Circus keeps him busy.

Jen Psaki is doing spectacular work subbing for Chris Hayes. She is clearly the future of MSNBC prime time. Though I love Alex Wagner, she just doesn't have that extra thing that makes her unmissable.

Chris Hayes better watch his back, Ari too.

The new guard is coming in and they are willing to work full weeks in the studio!

Danny Cevallos is arrogant. I am tired of Willie fawning over this guy on MJ. Stick with Andrew, Harry, Joyce, Barbara or Neal for expert legal analysis, not the smarmy Cevallos who loves to look directly into the camera.

r199, I’ve never liked Danny Cevallos for the reason you stated and he likes to play that both sides shit with tRump and his MAGA Death Eaters.

Who is this incredibly handsome David Wallace-Wells talking now with Alex Wagner about climate change? Hot!

Did Ali Velshi get a tan?

David Wallace-Wells is also very smart.

Yeah, R201, DWW is gorgeous. Always glad to see him come on.

Danny Cevallos is totally a crypto-maga. His coverage of Hunter Biden's plea deal was only missing a conspiracy theory.

Here is the conspiracy, Danny. After SEVEN years of investigation, the Trump appointed Hunter prosecution team found BUPKIS. That their prosecution bordered on MALICIOUS PROSECUTION, but living in fear of Congressional Chair Jim Jordan, and House Judiciary, they did not want to appear before the GOP Judiciary clown court, but thought they could get away with charging some rarely charged charges and keep the investigation open so that they would not have to appear before Jordan. You can't give information on open investigations, BUT... the Trump judge saw the flaws in the plea deal and stopped the Prosecution from seeking safe haven.

Prediction, charges dismissed WITH PREJUDICE and Hunter files a Malicious prosecution charge and the investigations are shut down.

I do hope you're right, r205. I would love to see the sane end of this nonsense soon.

[quote] Jen Psaki is doing spectacular work subbing for Chris Hayes. She is clearly the future of MSNBC prime time. Though I love Alex Wagner, she just doesn't have that extra thing that makes her unmissable.

I wonder if MSNBC regrets moving Alex Wagner into Rachel's time slot so quickly and now wishes they had waited a little longer to have Jen Psaki fill that role. Alex is doing a fine, if not spectacular, job, so I doubt MSNBC will get rid of her, at least not in the immediate future. I don't see how MSNBC can move Jen into prime time, unless they get rid of Chris Hayes or Lawrence O'Donnell retires. A more likely scenario might be to cut Nicolle Wallace's afternoon show to just one hour and give Jen the second hour.

Well, that's not a good idea!

Cut Jansing down to an hour. .

Jen Psaki needs a show no earlier than 4 pm! She's too good for daytime.

I love Alex but there's just nothing new in her perspective or presentation. By the time her show comes on, I feel I've heard all the news and seen all the same guests earlier in the day. She seems as exhausted doing the show as I do watching it. Personally, I'd move her to the slot right after Morning Joe, she'd be a calm and serene contrast to Joe and Mika.

Lawrence is even later, of course, but he brings a gravitas and fresh snark that I just love. And I even find Stephanie Ruhle mischievous fun with the way she formats her round tables with truly assorted people and her featured guests (like David Gura!) at the end of the show tete a tete on the easy chairs.

Yet Inside Jen Psaki is a daytime show.

[quote] David Wallace-Wells is also very smart.

DWW is fine to look at. And he really knows his topic. But I just love his voice.

Remember when Nicolle’s Deadline Whitehouse was a cool show.

Now not soo much.

I'm always in Nicole's corner.

r213, because Nicolle worked in the WH, because Jen Psaki worked in the WH and even for Alyssa Farah Griffin working in the WH, each has a unique insider's view of our Presidents and the Executive branch. They never lose their unique points of view. Coolness is irrelevant.

And yet Scarborough's insights from his days in Congress seem quaint at this point, not that that prevents him from referencing them at every opportunity.

His insights are meaningful in a historic way, especially when he talks about Gingrich and the Contract on America during Clinton.

You can really understand how we got from Reagan's, The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help.

Understanding now it really meant, I am going to shrink the government so much, make rich people richer, that you ain't getting from the government what the Democrats promised.

We have learned from the Democrats, that they DO help. Republicans lie.

Michael Steele needs his own show.

Remember Louis Burgdorf, former Executive Producer from Morning Joe? His cinco de mayo dance in 2014 was criticized, but I saw it as entertaining and gave the show a moment of letting loose in a harmless way.

Jonathan Lemire again anchoring Morning Joe…

Are Joe, Mika, and Willie vacationing with Clarence and Ginni Thomas in the Mediterranean perhaps? Nawh…?

I think Jen is probably exceeding expectations. And that is a good problem to have.

Willie always has Monday off. He *works* Sundays, lol.

Pre-Covid, and before Joe agreed to marry her, Mika took off ALL THE TIME. Staffers had a tote board up detailing her many absences. Joe used to say she was 'on assignment' - more like, on his ass.

Who is filling in for Chris Hayes tonight or is he finally working on Mondays?

He is no Rachel or Lawrence, just saying.

Put Jen Psaki or Symone in the 8pm. They would gladly workin the studio 5x a week if the boss gave it to them.

Oh look Nicolle is absent today!

At least Ayman is in the studio.

Yeah, I'd hate to see Ayman without hair and makeup.

Must be elite of Nicolle, Chris, Joe, Mika to remote in from their Summer Beach Houses.

At least Ayman, Psaki, Symone show up for work.

Don't they all deserve some time off before those new indictments come rolling in?

R227

All Summer long?

Before Covid these anchors would never do this.

Jonathan Lemire was on a segment of Andrea Mitchell's show today. Overkill.

R223, Medhi is in for Chris tonight. Ari and Joy showed up after Ayman filled in for Nicolle for two hours.

No posting for A Rachel Monday but I wouldn't be surprised if Alex showed up.

Someone said that they were going to be on with Lawrence. And Stephanie has not checked in yet.

Is Chris Hayes pulling a Rachel for a month off before she went 1x/week?

Heard Chris is writing a book, but this amout of time off is excessive.

I'm wondering what percentage of the posts here include some mention of,

Talent** taking time off.

Talent** not being in studio.

Talent** needing to be permanently replaced by other talent**.

**Feel free to substitute any more accurate descriptor.

I'm guessing at least 40-50%

The posters who are so outraged about Chris Hayes' absences seem to be the same posters who dislike watching him. Wtf? Make up your minds. Or just be happy he's not on.

Mehdi is so hot and so smart. I love him! Always happy to see him subbing for anyone.

Symone is at 30 Rock…is she subbing for Stephanie Rhule??

I miss Chris Hayes

See even I show up to the studio to plug my own shit on my fucking show.

How nice. Rachel seems to be doing an hour long commercial tonight for all of her books and book tours.

Every Monday until the release Rachel Maddow will hock this book to the MSNBC viewers.

And Joy, Nicolle, Ari, Chris will kiss her ass on the press tour.

Maddow time.

Rachel on a Roll.

Rachel *is* a roll

I LOVE how Lawrence pronounces it

Mar Largo.

I know it's not exactly their wheelhouse, but it did involve a somewhat historic hearing in Congress last week. The Oversight Committee testimony of whistleblowers revealing what they could publically about the existence of UAP's.

I may have missed it, but I saw zero coverage on MSNBC.

I saw some over the weekend.

Don't be surprised if you hear news that Joe and Mika have amicably separated.

Now that would be news!

Better news if both left MSNBC.

Whoa, r247.

Now, that’s what I’m talking about.

Care to ….elaborate?

On Morning Joe this AM, a prerecorded segment of Mika with guests going on about Know Your Value was aired. There's no escape from this.

Who is filling in for Nicolle today? I recognize him, but keep missing his name. He looks good. TIA.

Most of the A-listers are on holiday when the biggest news day of the year explodes.

Andrew Weissman + Ari Melber 🔥

I want to send Jack Smith a muffin basket.

Indictment Special at 8pm starring Ms. Maddow?

It appears that way R256. I hope Laurence and Jen are on the panel tonight.

I love how Ayman is so thicc that you can even tell by his knees. I just want one night with him.

I don't think a tsunami in her back yard will keep Nicolle away.

This is Nicolle’s obsession, she better call in at least.

Alex Wags already tweeted that she will be there at 8.

Andrew Weissmann is basically going to sleep at 30 Rock tonight.

Is Joy in NYC???

DL demands more, more, more……

of CHUCK TODD!!!

MSNBC is on fire tonight!!!!!

I usually can't watch Joy but she's done a good job tonight on her hour.

I love Jill Wine-Banks, but please dear lady, enough with the plastic surgery!

I haven't watched MSNBC at night in months. Had to go on a severe news diet to protect my mental health.

My impression is that so many people look different.

Kelly O'Donnell has lost a ton of weight (Ozempic?). Ari, Chuck Rosenberg, and even Danny Cevallos have aged precipitously. Jill Wine-Banks looks like she hasn't aged since 2016.

Actually, I just noticed now how much weight Joy has lost in the last year or so. Funny to remember how chubby she was with her dull frau clothes and 1950s page boy wigs when she began on MSNBC. It would be interesting to see a year by year montage of her transition.

Maddow time!

R265 I love her handmade indictment pin.

Please tell me it's not just Rachel tonight.

I just heard a man's cough, that's a good sign.

Glad Laurence and Chris are there. No Jen, I've taken a shine to her.

Ari's gray patch on top looks fake. Like somebody attacked him with spray paint.

Alex looks stunning in deep purple. A flattering color more people should try.

Bravo Laurence for defending the DOJ against Rachel's remark that they weren't up to it.

R273 Ari is a good looking man and I think his hair is natural.

It's fun to see what Joy will be wearing each day. Her wardrobe, hair and make-up have much improved over time.

R274

Yes Lawrence putting Chris & Alex in their place. Right on character as progressives that if they don’t get what they want, at the time they want it, burn it down.

Happy to see Lawrence, Jen, Andrew Weissmann talk with logic.

Goody, Stephanie Rule. She's a spitfire, I admire that in a woman.

Ruhle is doing better than I thought on a panel with these political/legal nerds by just being a voice of common sense.

Alex has wonderful cheekbones. Yes, it's me again, the cheekbone freak but I think dramatic cheekbones are God's gift.

[quote]Alex looks stunning in deep purple. A flattering color more people should try.

I have deep purple skin, r273, so I try and avoid it.

I’m not convinced Ari isn’t wearing a wiglet, R275.

At least it isn't a cascade, r282.

Lol, oh I dunno, I’d pay money to see that.

Mika and Joe’s vacay is over.

Joey S just tweeted they are back tmw to report on the indictment 👀

Rachel's hair is sticking up in the back.

I agree about Alex's beautiful cheekbones but why does she always wear that unflattering dark brown rouge? And no, I don't think that's shadow. It's ugly rouge.

R285 They want to feel included.

Did everyone else wonder about how the panel felt during the first half hour when Rachel wouldn't shut up?

R287 I'm overlooking that. Her hair is also amazing, shiny, silky looking and it swings perfectly.

Say what you will, but Rachel had only a few hours to put together an introduction that encapsulated the indictment and its implications. She's masterful at these presentations.

I get that, r291, but it seemed rude and patronizing to her colleagues to make them sit there for a half hour while she expounded, though I imagine it was the producers choice..

She's had plenty of experience with all the planned shows she had to throw out with just minutes to airtime.

R291 She read, like Mika does. I expect more.

I get such a hard on whenever Tim Heaphy comes on. What a man! Fantasy gym teacher type. But he needs to lower raise his camera as his sexiness is not being captured properly at that low angle.

[quote] Rachel had only a few hours to put together an introduction that encapsulated the indictment and its implications.

We've known for the past two weeks that an indictment could be coming any day, and we had a pretty good idea what the charges would be. I would hope that Rachel and MSNBC had done some planning in advance.

[quote] it seemed rude and patronizing to her colleagues to make them sit there for a half hour while she expounded

We're used to it by now. Sigh.

[quote]It's ugly rouge.

Tangee, no doubt.

R295, I also find Tim to be a sexy daddy. He's smart, too.

He sounds like Bill Clinton.

[quote]Say what you will, but Rachel had only a few hours to put together an introduction that encapsulated the indictment and its implications.

The reporters at the big newspapers do this all the time, and cover a lot more ground than you can on television (especially when you're Rachel and you're having to stop for dramatic pauses all the time). Rachel's fans have given her a swelled head.

I love Lawrence nicely slapping down blubber face Chris and Rachel about Merrick Garland and the DOJ. Lawrence made perfect sense when he stated that if the DOJ had indicted before the January 6 Committee had met, we, as the American public, would not have had all the learned information that came out of the Committee. Rachel gets ahead of herself, and Chris tries too hard with his "look at me, look at me" antics.

r302, Chris is definitely the weak link in the weeknight lineup.

What I like about discourse on MSNBC is the general collegiality of the hosts, guests & regular panelists. Even a legal expert like Andrew, or well-sourced journalist like Carol, will frequently go out of their way to reference back to a previous statement or work of a named colleague - who in some cases may actually be a professional competitor or rival.

It's nice, and it's just something I don't pick up on quite as much on other networks.

R302 I disagree. Lawrence is a DOJ apologist and his job is to defend Merrick Garland.

Everything that Donald Trump is all edged to have done was done publicly on live television and on Twitter. The American people don’t care. He is still the front runner for the nomination and is in a statistical tie for the presidency.

THAT is on Merrick garland. If he had taken swift action from the get-go, then we wouldn’t be in the position we are in.

The justice defenders share a trait with Qanon.

Both believe “Justice is coming”

Both believe “trust the plan”

And every time there is a “delay” or “timing issue” it’s always “behind the scenes…it’s happening. Trust Garland. Trust Pelosi. Trust Mueller. Trust Jim Comey. Trust Christopher Ray. Trust the court.”

How long between the end of 1/6 deliberations and the appointment of Jack Smith? I think that is the questionable time lag for which Chris and Rachel were taking Garland to task. I don't believe they ever suggested the 1/6 deliberations weren't a necessary step though Lawrence seemed to be suggesting they did.

Yellow is not John Heilemann's color.

[quote]The justice defenders share a trait with Qanon.

What a stupid thing to say.

r289, Rachel is one of the few people who is both an Aggregator and a Distiller.

What she did was aggregate the indictment so that the rest could distill the count.

That takes time.

This MAGA Colombian native didn’t recuse herself. Expect the proliferation of more delays and a further pattern of pro-Trump rulings.

Will we see her puncture a fundamentally airtight, slam dunk case?

Well, she can't delay the DC proceedings.

I agree that the entire MSNBC group seem to be collegial and respectful of each other.

R302 you’re stupid as hell.

Nicolle has rushed back from vaca in Jungle RED!!

This Barry Berke who is on with Nicolle this afternoon, I find kind of hot in a Clark Kent sort of way.

Rashida told Nicolle, Joe, Mika to fuck the vacations and get back stat!

Nancy Pelosi + Lawrence tonight !!!

She looks...ageless.

Alright Nicolles's response to hearing Trump's latest judge be described as "honest & true", is to picture the Wicked Witch of the West melting? What?

As an F.O.D. I feel I should get the reference, but even after an online search, I'm still stumped.

What is the explanation for George Conway’s weight loss? Is that Ozempic? It must also be some surgery because it is severe.

He's getting the band back together.

He had developed an enormous wattle. I don't know how you'd get rid of that much excess skin without surgery, but it looks like they did a good job.

Isn't he a bachelor now? He wants to be a thirst trap.

Two-hour arraignment special! The announcer’s exact words. Who will be the musical guest?

Nicolle is not part of the lineup at 4pm.

Back to Mike instead of commenting on her OBSESSION!!

Why do we need Nicolle at 4 pm when I will be there to Rachelsplain it all to you?

Why do we need Nicolle at 4 pm when I will be there to Rachelsplain it all to you?

Maybe Nicolle went back to her holiday, having had her say yesterday.

George Conway looks to be transitioning.

It’s so fitting that the co-host of Andrew Weissmann’s podcast is named Mary.

Is Andrew married to a woman or gay?

R330

He's married to a woman and has a son.

We love him anyway. Maybe at least because he sets off our gaydar in a MAJOR way. MAJOR.

I was astounded when I found out he was married with a son. My gaydar is usually pretty reliable, but it fritzed out with him (or maybe he’s deep in the closet).

I was astounded when I found out he was married with a son. My gaydar is usually pretty reliable, but it fritzed out with him (or maybe he’s deep in the closet).

Rachel’s makeup is on point this afternoon.

She worked 3x this week!

Rachel wiped back to front on Monday and she has been on a spill ever since!

The current panel of superstars right now is spectacular, more astute than ever. Rachel and Joy actually seem at times to be rather emotional. Chris and Lawrence have both made some hilarious remarks about Dump. Ari is laying off the rap quotes. Does Andrew Weissmann ever get to go home any more to his beautiful loft?

I just assumed Andrew Weissman was an out gay man, a gay hero.

Hmm. Is there something wrong with me?

I have to say, Stephanie Ruhle just joined the panel and was able to bring a great fresh point of view that sweet Alex Wagner is not capable of. And I love Alex but she just doesn't have that It Factor that brings something new to the conversation.

Party Girl Stephanie Rhule is here to PLAY!

[quote] I just assumed Andrew Weissman was an out gay man, a gay hero.

He was so frequently described as a "legal pit bull" in the Enron and Mueller prosecutions, I would just love to see his inner pit bull come out on occasion.

Chris takes a little gleeful self-satisfied sip of water, after Andrew corroborates his observation on the uniqueness of the judge's admonition about juror tampering.

Rachael corrects herself, and Lawrence stiffens a bit in his chair.

Chris Hayes is becoming a little piece of shit.

Becoming r342?

Chris is so arrogant. The contempt on Ari's face when he looks at him is always enjoyable.

I prefer Rachel heading a panel to being by herself.

It was beautiful that Chris stuck it to Rachel. Rachael obviously forgot that that Chris is married to a high powered attorney in her own right. He constantly consults with her. She was dismissive of him and she ate it. Good for Chris.

More love for Chris, please! Thank you. r346.

Personally, I love all of the MSNBC All-Stars. Each great in their own way.

WHET Katy Tur? Does she have her own show any more? Last I saw she was babysitting Andrea Mitchell.

Next time, Lawrence needs to punch Hayes out.

R347 I think she's on vacation. Usually she's on at 3:00 PM ET.

Alex Wagner gots to go. Far away.

Andrew Weissmann looks like a fantastic fuck.

Lawrence just called Laura Ingraham

A FOX .... PERFORMER.

R352 I call her a vile cunt, for smearing the 1/6 Capitol Police as crisis actors, among other things.

But I was interested to learn that she and George Conway dated before he wed Kellyanne Fitzpatrick. I thought she was solely into women back then.

I wish more MSNBC heads were as energetic (and pent up) as Chris. Having the rest of them sit around the Maddow altar has to be a chore. Good of Rachel to admit her mistake. Chris deserved his victory sip. I do like that Joy fits in easily, and doesn't try to shout others down.

Alexi McCannon left shitty Axios and is now at The Post. She was on fire on MJ.

As was Mehdi Hasan who ripped Trump a new hole. LET THE DEMOS WATCH!

He was glorious.

[quote] Alexi McCannon left shitty Axios and is now at The Post.

It's been hard for me to take her seriously after she left Axios (the first time) to become editor of Teen Vogue, and then was canned from that job when racist and homophobic tweets of hers resurfaced.

I can't take Alexi McCammond seriously for a number of reasons - as stated here - but the worst is her article on being drugged by accepting a free drink - and the horror that ensued - and then she goes on to state in the article...

[quote]I still accept drinks from strangers because I don't think accepting or denying drinks will affect the likelihood of this happening again.

Sorry. Stupid. Why would I take seriously anything she writes when her judgement is so demonstrably poor?

Axios is awful. Jonathan Swan left too and now is Maggie Haberman’s sidekick.

Alexi is just as awful, she comes across as a Nepo Baby.

Why does Jonathan Swann appear on MSNBC so rarely now? Is he contracted somewhere else? So smart and handsome! I miss him.

His Trump interview was the best

R354 I've tried to keep up but must have missed it - what was the mistake Rachel made (that Chris pointed out?)

Chris Jansing is OBSESSED with Trump.

[quote] Having the rest of them sit around the Maddow altar has to be a chore.

How long can MSNBC continue having Maddow serve as the Queen of MSNBC and the host for all breaking news and specials when her regular show airs only 1 hour a week? It works for now, because everyone still remembers when Rachel was on 5 nights a week, but it's not sustainable long term as the network tries to attract new viewers. Eventually, new viewers will wonder: "Who is this woman who only shows up when there's breaking news and then acts as if she runs the place?"

R361 she was dismissive of Chris's opinion over the Judge ordering Trump to not commit crimes, or intimidate witnesses. Chris questioned the attorney to ask if that was unusual, and he was told it had never happened in any case he'd prosecuted. Rachel gave a very quick 'I stand corrected' as she shuffled papers and didn't look at the camera, while Chris took a quick drink of water and looked very satisfied.

I used to love Rachel, but she's gotten so damn full of herself, it was pretty satisfying just to have seen it.

Even once a week and special occasions are enough to keep Rachel front and center as long as she keeps to that schedule.

I do, however, see MSNBC move Jen Psaki to a prime time spot in the next year or two. The question will be: Where?

Jonathan Swan's wife Betsy Woodruff is regularly on MSNBC. She's pretty much a Nepo baby; her parents are Judy Woodruff and Al Hunt.

Betsy Woodruff Swan is the child of Jane & Scott Woodruff - no relation to journalists Judy Woodruff, Bob Woodruff, or Al Hunt.

But Jonathan might be considered more Nepo, as he's the son of Norman Swan, an Australian TV and radio producer.

Thank you R364! Very interesting. I like Rachel but I'm Team Chris forevah! Not sure why - just decided he was really smart - smarter than any of the others -years ago when some crisis or other was going on and he knew all sorts of background info, that he brought up, on the spot, during interviews. It might have been details about the leadup to the Nixon resignation during Watergate. Some historical details that I can't imagine the usual talking head knowing, without the kind of prep/research Rachel does.

Interesting. Wikipedia has her parents as Al and Judy. Why does no one correct her entry.

[quote] Interesting. Wikipedia has her parents as Al and Judy. Why does no one correct her entry.

I don't see any mention of Al and Judy in her Wikipedia entry. If it ever did say that, it has been removed.

I listened to Ali Velshi's reading of the full indictment. I'm glad that all the legal experts regard it as a strong case, slam-dunk, Trump is toast, etc. However, even with a D.C. jury, I find it hard to believe they'll get 12 willing to convict him.

Jen Psaki will move to 9pm weekdays to replace Alex Wagner.

Jen, and her current Sunday show, are great.

Is that an opinion or is it fact, r373

Jen Psaki should replace Chris Hayes.

Since he no longer works Mondays and remotes it on Fridays, he is no longer relevant.

Joy Behar on The View is down to a three day work week with Monday off and double tapings on Thursday.

I’m watching sexy Ayman as I type. I’d kill for his complexion.

R377 I think that's called concealer. So you can probably buy it in your shade.

And Joy persistently extols what a vigorous and tireless 80-year-old she is.

Today is a day that I am reminded how much MSNBC sucks on weekends.

After Psaki, it PSUKS.

But I really like Mehdi Hasan.

Ayman is attractive but something tells me he’s not exactly a friend of the gays

Neal Katyal is HOT 🔥

Andrew Weissmann is HOT too 🔥

MSNBC is Hog Heaven for DLers like me who love unconventionally sexy men.

[quote]Ayman is attractive but something tells me he’s not exactly a friend of the gays

I’ve never gotten that from him. Just the opposite, actually.

I actually think hot Ayman would be more gay friendly than Medhi Hassan, who can be a tad full of himself.

Mehdi Hasan, as a Muslim, had issues with homosexuality in the past; He has since changed his thinking:

[quote]The British journalist and interviewer Mehdi Hasan today admitted that he was "definitely guilty" of saying "ignorant shit" about gays and homosexuality when he was younger, and he was sorry for that. He also said Muslims should be the last people to be okay with "hate being spread against any minority" given the current climate.

Ayman is also Muslim, but I've not heard of anything overtly homophobic in his reporting or writing.

Hey all, just because Ayman and Mehdi are both Muslim is no reason to expect them to have the same views on homosexuality (and Mehdi's was even a youthful view). And if Ayman has never expressed an opinion on the subject, how do you know what he thinks?

Do all Jews have the same take on homosexuality? Protestants? Even Catholics?

Ayman has spoken about the LGBTQ community many times on his show. I've never even suspected that he'd be homophobic. I just see him as this big, affable, sexy guy who loves to eat (per his social media posts) and who happens to be a journalist. His wife is a lucky woman.

[quote]Joy Behar on The View is down to a three day work week with Monday off and double tapings on Thursday.

If I'm not mistaken, the double tapings on Thursdays are only during the summer. Once the new season starts, I believe they go back to live shows on Fridays.

R391 She also happens to be 80.

Can’t imagine Nicolle Wallace & Mike Schmidt having sex.

I'll bet their foreplay includes hot sweaty debates on Merrick Garland.

Are the writers for The View not on strike?

Thankfully Barb McQuade shut down this asshole Walter Isaacson on MJ. He's a History Professor. That should frighten us.

The entire country has gone fucking nuts. One can't say it enough.

^I heard that too. These people who keep touting how difficult it will be to prove Dump knew he lost are forgetting that he told several people that he knew he lost and his actions say he knew he lost.

R394

Their safe word is January 6 Committee.

The 10 and 11 AM shows are boring.

They just keep raising the bar for proof of Trump's criminality. Before long, the whole country will be completely lawless, according to their interpretations.

I am convinced more and more - watching Andrea Mitchell fumble and pause and wander and stammer - that she is in such a bad state that producers are feeding her lines through her earpiece.

It would explain her appalling demeanor. These days she is essentially a puppet.

Mitchell needs to retire. She absolutely doesn’t need the money.

She may be there for octogenarian viewers who have followed her for decades.

Nicolle Wallace cashing in on those Vacay Days!!!

Bets on who is filling in for Chris Hayes tonight?

If we're lucky, Jen Psaki will fill in for Chris.

Daddy Andrew Weissmann 🔥

[quote] Thankfully Barb McQuade shut down this asshole Walter Isaacson on MJ.

Before I go back and scan through the recording, can you provide a hint as to what the dispute was about? Thanks.

Isaacson is part of the regular "company" on Amanpour & Company, my go-to news show. He's actually done a number of good interviews there. As far as being a historian, he has a distinctly Time Magazine Person of the Year view of the world.

In fact, Walter Isaacson used to be a top editor at Time magazine, years ago. I don't know when he turned into a "historian."

R389, as us Velshi. He said he was a Kenyan Muslim and never saw Obama at the meetings.

Hasan

Velshi

Moyhedin

Is Rachel in tonight or is she taking credit for Indictment Watch.

Has Chris been quietly fired?

Lawrence is in tonight.

Is Stephanie?

Isaacson turned into a historian by writing lengthy, well-respected bios of Ben Franklin, Steve Jobs, Leonardo daVinci, Einstein, Kissinger, etc. Are those credits solid enough for you?

I was thinking about it while watching his show this weekend.

I could see Aymim being a closet homophobe. Like he's intelligent enough to understand gay people have rights, but he might cry at night if he found out he had a gay son.

Velshi seems more gay friendly.

R410 He's certainly credentialed as a bestselling biographer. His choice of subjects are big names that readers can fan-boy out on.

I've only listened to the audiobook of the bio of DaVinci. It was lengthy and kept my interest. I have Code Breaker in my queue, bio of the Nobel Prize winning developer of CRISPR gene editing. No idea how his work is regarded by academics.

He's a Professor of History and Values at Tulane.

Mika + Joe get an Oscar for this morning’s performance.

Mika gazing at Joe = Nancy and Ronnie. She is a puffball. You know Joe is cheating on her.

Mitchell won't retire, because, like elderly men in the DC moneyed, career driven, elite, TV talking head milieu, they know their fate once they do - being ignored, excluded, and no more best restaurant tables and party invitations.

There is a social brutality to retirement in that atmosphere. And, like every human, and I include myself here, some of it is pure projection- we know how we treated, whether intentionally or benignly, co-workers who lost, or gaveup power. You move on from them.

And MSNBC won't ease her out because they worry about the perception of ageism if they do.

So, Mitchell ain't going anywhere.

[quote]I could see Aymim being a closet homophobe. Like he's intelligent enough to understand gay people have rights, but he might cry at night if he found out he had a gay son.

What about him makes you think this?

It's not as though Mitchell needs to retire completely.

She does reports for the NBC Evening News and she's fine doing that, although that's probably because she's reading a script. (The evenings are the only time I see her because I don't watch her afternoon show.)

Maybe NBC just needs to remove her from MSNBC's daytime lineup and keep her reporting for Lester Holt (who seems to like referring to her as "our very own Andrea Mitchell.")

R406

He was - what I interpreted as, and I'll paraphrase as - making possible excuses for TFG behavior. I think everybody should stop making excuses and be blunt about his crimes.

Let's not feed the animals. They'll come up with bullshit on their own. It doesn't impress me when you can - or think you should - play bothsiderism. Doesn't make me think you're erudite. Makes me think you're more interested in boosting your profile than putting out this fucking fire.

Actually, R406, it was more 'possibles defenses' that come across as excuses.. I should have been more clear.

Ayman ‘s EP is a gay man. I wonder what that relationship is like…I agree with the rest of the posters…I think deep down he’s not a big fan of gays

Ayman shows no signs of being a homophobe. I'd take Mehdi as one before Ayman.

Are we making these assumption about Mehdi or Ayman based on gaydar of a sort that intuits their opinions about gays and lesbians, or, instead, based on the sole fact that they are Muslim? Because, believe it or not, there are gay Muslims.

It feels like some of these comments are skirting the edge of hurtful stereotypes and generalizations. If these people are not overtly bashing gays and lesbians, then their religion - and its tenets about sexuality - should have no bearing on their value as a TV presenter/reporter.

Am I way off base here?

R421

See R388.

[quote]The British journalist and interviewer Mehdi Hasan today admitted that he was "definitely guilty" of saying "ignorant shit" about gays and homosexuality when he was younger, and he was sorry for that. He also said Muslims should be the last people to be okay with "hate being spread against any minority" given the current climate.

^I read that, however, I'm still wondering what gives people the feeling that Ayman may be a closeted homophobe. Just because he's never been caught being homophobic and apologized for it doesn't mean that he is a homophobe.

R424

I am wondering the same. I'm also R422.

Medhi’s progressive assholeness is such a turn off.

He has said anti-gay statements and he probably thinks women are there to serve him.

Such a repulsive character.

This sounds like all the Joy Reid bullshit from a few years ago. Mehdi could have owned slaves for all I care, but he's brilliant.

The thing with Ayman is he went after gay activists for protesting Muslim countries for hosting sports events by basically saying the US was just as bad:

The difference is gay people are oppressed in America, no doubt but in Muslim countries gay people are murdered by the state for being gay. That is a big difference and he couldn’t see that.

It was very dissapointing

HUGE Mehdi fan here. Always happy to see him subbing in primetime. I love his snark.

I'm getting used to Alicia filling in for Nicolle.

Today she is quite good.

She's better than she used to be.

Alicia is smart, and she is a good host. Her only problem is that she comes across as somewhat bland and lacking in personality.

I find Alicia more energetic and engaging than Alex Wagner.

Well...that was underwhelming. Ari Melber just went through this tortured exegesis of Oedipus ( a little reductionist, a little simplistic) and then had Jay Mcinerney on for a segment to continue the discussion. Mcinerney was not very enlightening, and he seemed a little lost for words or.....high? I'd love to hear what other viewers thought.

Ari is trying to make a mark as an intellectual with his classical references. You are correct that it was a tortured exegesis. He needs to stop putting up those graphics with those Melber arrows without decently scaled axes. 2022 and 2023 without month marks is useless.

Who's in for Chris?

Chris is supposed to be back tonight.

Justin Jones is on Joy as I type. Intelligent young man targeted by the racist republican assholes in his state.

Rachel Maddow is a better anchor than Alex Wagner.

Not even comparable.

ANDREW WEISSMANN !!!

Bradley Moss has a cute smile.

I love the way Stephanie Ruhle often ends her show with her final guest sitting with her in easy chairs. Something about seeing full body language is so refreshing after a day of desks, half bodies and zooms. More MSNBC shows should try this.

R428, I missed that segment but thanks for that.

And yeah, idk! I just came back from the "things you learn at work" thread.

When you're in these professional environments with straight men, it's almost as if you have "ally-dar." You can feel their level of comfort. Aymin does not give off the "Yeah man, I have a gay brother it's cool!" Vibe.

He gives off "Look, I don't care if you're gay, just don't hit on me."

It's not because he's Muslim.

[quote]He gives off "Look, I don't care if you're gay, just don't hit on me."

No he doesn’t.

Ayman seemed cool with Steve Kornacki. Until Steve tried to get Ayman to take a bite of the donut he was holding in his mouth. Steve was a little drunk at the time.

I miss Steve. Haven’t seen him in a long time. I think it’d be cool if they had him be Chris’s stand-in on Mondays but he’s probably not interested in doing stuff like that anymore (and I guess you can’t blame him).

Steve stopped wearing khakis. The last two times he was on air he had on gray slacks and then navy blue.

Well the only way to settle this would be for Ayman to come on Datalounge and explain himself!

Ari will need to follow-up with Trump apologist Bret Easton Ellis to discuss the Aeschylian tragedies and Megan Thee Stallion.

We're waiting, R447.

Joe was on fire this morning torching the WSJ editorial page. It has turned into Fox Print. 🔥🔥🔥

Wasn't aware that BE Ellis is a Trump apologist. What's the source?

Those who love Trump, love their money. My ex-cop brother, after swearing off Trump's toxidiocy(I made that up), now is going to vote for him again, because Biden's too old, we don't want a female Pres to be a black woman, and 'they all do it.' Really it's just about his money.

Most people are stupid. Thus Trump.

Miss LIndsey looks like she's nearing death.

I love Alex Wagner. She is low-key funny. I love it last night when they were discussing Judge Cannon and someone described her as "not 2.0" and somebody else said, "She's 1.0" and Alex Wagner said. "0.0 - beta version." That's sharp and quick. lol

Was he wearing a white wig?

Is isn't he puffy in the face?

Cancer?

I like Alicia, and think generally speaking she does a good job of hosting.

This week though she's looking a bit M3GAN.

[quote] Wasn't aware that BE Ellis is a Trump apologist. What's the source?

In his book of essays, White, he opines on Trump, the election, and responses to it. He somewhat gives Trump a pass on racist things that he's said. It's worth a read.

Lawrence is on 🔥🔥🔥 tonight.

His disgust of Trump is palpable.

R457 I think Alicia looks quite lovely today.

Next to Mary, the best explainer on MSNB, who also would blend right in on a Merchant-Ivory production.

She has the perfect haircut at the perfect length to her face and shoulders.

They are perfect Explainers.

Only Rachel and Secretary Pete are perfect Distillers.

Loving all this early footage that Ari is showing us of young hot (beardless) Jack Smith on the job.

Ari is promoting this special on Sunday he is hosting with Andrew and Mary. The screenshot of him in profile, poised staring up into the distance is priceless. There should be a shaft of light from the heavens illuminating his pious countenance.

Ari is a bit sanctimonious but his footage from The Hague and previously unseen footage from a panel is priceless. If he is a bit sanctimonious he's earned it.

Alex and Chris work 4 days a week and can’t get in the studio???

Red is a good color on Alex.

Did any of you enjoy my cameo in Red, White, and Royal Blue?

During DW I had to back up to make sure what I was seeing, when a studio grip made an on-camera cameo appearance over Alicia's shoulder. recoiling some cable.

A rarity I'm surprised doesn't happen more often.

You don't watch MJ, do you?

Yes, but there it seems to mostly be audible gaffes off-camera. Which Joe will comment on. Somebody lost a hubcap, etc.

R467 we were too distracted by your allegations that Russians retroactively produced homophobic messages from your secure accounts 15 years ago!

Give it a rest, R472. Joy is actively an ally of the LGBT community as illustrated often nightly on her show (a community that her daughter is a part of, btw), and some of you can’t let go of something that was allegedly put on her social media years ago. Just say that you dislike intelligent, successful black women, because that’s what it really boils down to.

*Give it a rest* was meant for R471

I like Joy. I am gay.

Another Joy fan. She regularly brings up LGBTQ issues on her show. I think it is the only one on the day's schedule that is different than the rest. I kind of like it when she goes over the top - she's like the female version of Chris Matthews.

r470, you missed the dance of the circling cameras filming each other and the waltz of the booms dropping into sight?

No, you don't watch MJ.

How about, the talking to the control booth for a defective earpiece?

It is amazing that anyone gets out alive after 4 hours.

Do you think Joe S really loves Mika?

R477 NO.

She's a political trophy wife.

Like all good Southern Baptists he probably fucks around on the side. White privilege pussy.

Did Joe fuck the girl who died in his office?

No, she died of the vapors and could not be revived.

Something tells me that Joe is a grower and has big, pink balls.

You know that all those Southern Baptist sons of the plantation are intact. A long slender, hooded cock with balls that swing between his boney legs not touching either thigh.

R476 He seemed at a real loss without Mika. Even bumbling through his banter. The panel a little nonplussed as to how to respond to "It's already August. Time's going by so fast."

Southern Baptists aren't sons of the plantation -- they're the trashy poor and maybe recent middle class.

The upper class are Episcopalian - or maybe Presbyterian (and a few Methodist?)

Did someone here say they thought George Conway was transitioning? See Alex Wagner Tonight.

Checking RoomRater to see if they've commented yet on his prominently displayed collection of multi-colored corgi (?) figurines.

Yasmin should replace Katy Tur weekdays.

Always thought Yasmin is at her best in the field.

Lawrence O’Donnell is sexy smart.

Did he really date Tamron Hall?

Don't know about Tamron but Lawrence was dating Mary-Louise Parker for a long time. And Odd Couple. Not sure if they're still together.

FWIW Ali’s fill-in misattributed Georgia on My Mind to its notable singer Ray Charles, but it was written by Hoagy Carmichael and Stuart Gorrell.

Ari is humping Andrew's leg on his Rehash AKA, Special. Ignoring Mary and bringing on Ruth as an afterthought.

R492 I've listened to all the eponymous podcasts when released, in which Mary is a totally equal partner to Andrew. Ari, as a full MSNBC employee,, may have been required to host the show, but he's peripheral.

Let me guess Jonathan Lemire is going to jerk off to trump for an hour on WTE.

R494 There's usually a mopey interlude when the Red Sox are sucking - to be cont'd on MJ.

Mika got a new dye job.

R496 are we sure that's not a wig on Mrs. Joe? Looks a lot 'fuller'.

Pure speculation on my part, but I think there is something personal weighing on Mika's mind.

She seems like she doesn't "know her value". She's allowing Scarborough to interrupt her and ignore her.

If he's cheating on her, she knows it.

Karma is a Bitch!

Kasie Hunt is now anchoring CNN’s Way too Early!!!

Rach is interviewing Hillary Clinton tonight regardless if there is an indictment in Georgia.

Symone should just take the 8pm hour going forward since Chris no longer works Mondays.

Why doesn’t Chris work Mondays? Daddy diaper duty at home?

[quote] Mika got a new dye job.

Also a new support bra perhaps with added posture corrector.

Looking very lifted, separated and erect this morning.

Symone lost the hour to Ari, Andrew & Nicolle!

We've gone from a regular Rachel Maddow Show to an. MSNBC live roundtable.

Did Hilary get bumped?

I like these panels and we have a lot of them to look forward to in the future.

Don’t think Madam Hillary is gonna be on tonight.

I've been ignoring everything and went looking to see what the hell happened. Joyce Vance on Twitter (in case anybody else is out of the loop like me):

True bill: The grand jury voted to indict a case

No bill: The grand jury declined to return an indictment

Each indictment can have multiple charges & multiple defendants (or be limited to one of each)

There is reporting the Fulton County GJ returned 10 true bills. We'll see. Now we wait for the clerk to process them.

After so many years of getting her hair wrong, it seems Hillary is finally getting it right.

Hillary has a particular glow tonight. She looks gorgeous. This country does not deserve her.

Madam President.

I loved the way Hillary looked into the camera at the audience as she was speaking. She is correct that Trump and his allies and followers are anti-American.

Rachel’s NBC ID or the patent leather platform sneakers.

SEXY Andrew Weissmann

Is Andrew Weissmann a cocksucker? He has gay voice.

Great to see Hillary. I miss her concern for children and civil responsibility.

Chris Hayes! On a Monday night!!!!

He's usually off on Monday, Laurence is off on Friday and Rachel is off Tuesday through Friday. Good work if you can get it.

You just know Chris only has on boxers with his jacket, shirt and tie. Somebody got on the horn and told him to get his ass down to his basement in front of the chroma key, stat!

Did anyone else notice that when Rachel started her show tonight, actually even before that as she came on around 8:45, she was wearing a dark grey striped jacket? Still wearing that in her Hillary interview. But watching her now, at 10:45, she's wearing a b=solid back jacket? WTF?

R521 Check your eyes, she's still wearing the black pinstripe blazer.

I'm looking now and don't see any stripes on Rachel's blazer. The earlier striped blazer also had wider lapels than her usual thing. Very odd for her, I thought.

Are they really breaking news in Georgia right now at damn near midnight? CPT is terrible.

R502, I suspect he feels some type of way about Maddow only Mondays and is getting his little perk. Others here say it's because of his daughter.

DL famously went on about some alleged tension between Hayes and Maddow for years.

Poor Symone they only gave her 20 minutes.

Rachel's staying on for another hour. Will she remove her wig?

I'm loving that the MSNBC group is enjoying this as much as the rest of us.

What happened to Vaughn Hillyard? He looks terrible.

He's aged from a twink to a middle-aged man in about two years.

Too much stress? Trouble at home? Secret meth habit?

Maybe he's been working too much. It seems like every time I turn on MSNBC, he's on.

Did Hillyard and his boyfriend ever get married? I fully expected someone here on DL to keep us up to date.

Vaughn looked fine yesterday morning on Morning Joe - all perky, smiley and fresh faced.

He seemed especially proud of the fact that Trump had insulted him the day earlier when he was called "Mr. Wise Guy" for asking Trump if he would consider taking a plea deal.

But yesterday was a really long day for Vaughn.

The poor guy just needs a really good night's sleep.

Huh, I was just about to compliment Vaughn on stepping up his grooming game. Yes, he's matured, but I thought he looked just fine earlier in the day. Only while still on with Chris Jansing, from outside the courthouse at 1:55 AM, did he appear a little spent. A bit too much sun exposure perhaps.

I don't know any meth addicts. Do they generally look like Vaughn Hillyard?

Vaughn and his boyfriend have been "engaged" for quite a while, but there's been no wedding.

Maybe their double-headed dildo wore out, and they're evaluating other options.

Jonathan Lemire spewing Republican talking points.

When Mika and Joe are clearly both in a studio, but appear to be on different MJ sets, what's going on? Is Joe in DC while Mika's in NYC? Wish they'd identify the location of each participant when it's not obvious.

Joe's in Florida, right? Mika probably is too, just in another room.

I think Vaughn looks handsomer in his maturity.

What the fuck is going on with this man’s eyeglasses on Morning Joe?

"This is the first time a President has been indicted. Well, since last week."

Joe Scarborough

Joe and Mika do the show from different rooms in their mansion.

Mike Schmidt and I do the show from different rooms in my sublease.

And Jen is looking for a weekday slot, no?

Why does Mika always sound like she’s on the verge of hysteria? She stresses me out.

Tired of Katie Tur’s feigned “whataboutism.” Undercover Republicunt. I do appreciate Andrea Mitchell’s side eye when Tur tried her “Gee Wilikers” question with our Andrew Weissman.

Katie is asking the Trump Supporter questions, in the rare instance a Fox Viewer shows up and needs things explained

S.I.M.P.L.Y and S.L.O.W.L.Y.

Chris got the "what dumb shit did you just say" look from Andrea, Katie, and our Andrew W. when she stated that since the Georgia trial, if televised, would have huge ratings and maybe Trump would testify because he likes high ratings. The looks and comments from the panelists were great. Katie asked Jansing if she really thought Trump would jeopardize his case and possibly his freedom by taking the stand because of ratings. Confirms for me what I always thought that Jansing is a lightweight.

If Nicolle insists on working remotely, can she please get decent lighting. She looks like she has a flashlight shing up on her face.

Agreed R544 (also watching for r580 to start Part 49 new thread).

Nicolle needs to stop with the "I'm still in the Hamptons for August" look.

It looks like she is using one of those camera halos.

Just reminded with some clips of that hottie scum lawyer Eric Herschmann - I do hope we get to see a lot of him at these trials. Daddy!

Nicolle has to be at her Connecticut compound or Hamptons house that is close enough for her to come back to the studio on breaking news days.

Herchmann is sexy as fuck. He has a lot of swagger.

Would MSNBC ever have Eric Herschmann on one of their shows? I'd love to see Ari take him on.

Sexy Lawrence O’Donnell + Hot Andrew Weissmann= 🔥

I love Claire McK but she should not be in front of a zoom camera at 11 pm.

R547 Tell Master Herschmann I am prepped and ready for the justice of his big bat. Either end.

[quote] (also watching for [R580] to start Part 49 new thread).

Stop. I'm already wetting myself in anticipation.

What is Part 49 theme?

Andrew Weissman actually said on the podcast today, “I’m channeling my inner Mary…”

Love him.

R556 isn’t that kinda embarrassing? When a middle aged, heterosexual male tries to sound “hip”

It doesn't sound hip. It sounds gay.

It's Andrew!

It sounds sew gay!

As often happens with these huge trials that are televised, media stars emerge and Andrew Weissmann is clearly the star of this one. I won't be surprised if he has his own MSNBC show by next year.

Frequent MSNBC guest commentator, Matt Lewis, has changed his appearance and not for the better. That haircut and how he combs the hair back awkwardly and upwards, doesn’t look attractive. For the tv cameras, some makeup to suppress the redness and shine would help. His facial features are handsome, but he needs cosmetic advice and assistance.

Willie Geist cashing in those vacay days.

R555 Suggestion?

Finally it has happened to me right in front of my face And I just cannot hide it

[quote] Andrew Weissmann is clearly the star of this one. I won't be surprised if he has his own MSNBC show by next year.

He's 65. A little late in life to launch a TV show. Plus, MSNBC already two legal hosts with Ari Melber and Katie Phang. Weissmann will probably continue contributing to MSNBC and podcasting, but I can't see him getting his own show.

I was thinking

Hey Rashida, enough with the Rap and Baseball!

Black Twitter is going in on Eddie Glaude for his sudden Trump indignation when he was one of the main "I'm not voting or Hillary" people back in 2015.

That is the problem with voting blocks who need their asses kissed. Thank God the LGBT+ Community knows they can only get their asses kissed. AFTER Democrats are elected.

Fuck Black men who didn't show up and vote for Hillary. FUCK THEM.

I agree. People like Eddie can have several seats.

We have 30ish more posts, but I was leaving for the day...

[quote] Fuck Black men who didn't show up and vote for Hillary. FUCK THEM.

I do.

Close this thread before moving to Part 49.

Part 49

Let’s gooooo! Get to 600 so we can talk rap & baseball!

That Danish documentarian on with Ari just now certainly dropped a few bombs on Roger Stone. Is Stone in danger of getting arrested again (I hope)?

[quote] Matt Lewis, has changed his appearance

Always thought he was so pretty, with those lovely wide-set eyes.

Lisa Rubin got a makeover! New hairdo and makeup! Now showing on Chris Hayes.

Love Lisa's large baroque pearls. They look like mini nacreous poached eggs.

Rap and Baseball!!!

How do we get to Part 49 when the last post was 12 hours ago?

No feedback on this morning’s Morning Joe?

Nothing? Anyone?

Ok, I’ll start.

Mika almost dumped her coffee on Joe’s head when he wouldn’t shut the hell up about golf.

Joe was visibly annoyed when Mika asked guest Alex Moffat about playing Joe on SNL.

Donny asked Alex and Eric McCormack how they manage to “get it up every night” for their play The Cottage”.

I doubt that THE COTTAGE saw any new sales at the box office today. That interview really went off the rails and made the play seem even tackier than I'd thought.

LOVED the old guy on MJ who brought up Roy Cohn as Dump's mentor and all the parallels between those two vile creeps.

Mika and Joe and Donny all seemed highly embarrassed by Eric and Alex exposing their non-presence at the NBC studio. Surely they don't think they've been fooling us?

We got to 48 because people post in bursts and sometimes there are lulls. Don't worry, we'll get to 49 smoothly and without duplicates and no fights about who is the original thread. I believe that I am one of three OPs for the MSNBC threads. We all know how to do a proper continuation. We all defer to each other. The main thing is the smooth singular continuation.

r583, That's because Joe&M switch between NYC and DC.

What's because of that, r585? WTF are you mansplaining??

[quote] We all know how to do a proper continuation. We all defer to each other. The main thing is the smooth singular continuation.

Like a space shuttle lift off.

r587, I would say a marathon baton handoff.

R588 And I would say more like changing the roll before the very last sheet.

Unfortunately, something that rarely happens in my household.

Once again: "Mika has the morning off. She's at an undisclosed location somewhere in the south of France."

She is probably a NATO currier running a mission for her brother the Ambassador..

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