Heartstopper

Probably my last comment pre time out - to the people saying they’re tit for tat, both hurt, etc, this is getting a bit absurd imo. If all bash did was post a selfie or a pic of himself having fun every time Joe did something and vice versa I’d say yeah a bit of harmless tit for tat. He’s not. He’s unfollowing joes family and friends, getting his family and friends to unfollow joe, pointedly posting only their mutual he “won”, seemingly ignoring their costar who posts joe but is trying to be neutral, posting bitchy song lyrics and passive aggressive won the breakup stories about someone he knows who joe has said is his favourite current artist. Post OF nick NY post joe has… posted himself looking cute and having fun? If you think that’s tit for tat, it’s really not.

Is Connor back in Toronto now? He’s posted about a festival that’s screening his short film.

Continuing from the last thread, don't get the ones saying 'both are hurt and both are reacting and both are doing tit for tat'.

What is Joe doing? Other than the OF Nick Instagram story, what exactly has he done? He has been so mature and hasn't resorted to any petty means even though he's the teenager amongst them both.

My new pet theory (based on nothing btw) is Noah and Joe talked or hung out at ami and it ended up on joes finsta. Literally basing this solely on Bash unfollowing Noah so damn fast

R2 can only live of your friends dads money so long I guess

Did Noah follow Joe?

Going so far as to try to ruin songs for Joe by making it about himself. That’s some crazy class of mindfucking right there.

R6 No

I doubt that Joe saw Bash had liked and commented on Maisie’s post.

R6 no it’s a total crack theory but to be fair Noah doesn’t follow anyone he sat by either, so no signs of who he did and didnt meet from that

Keep coming back to Bash's comment. What exactly went down for him to be so petty now?

R9 Of course not, Joe is blind to all of Bash’s manipulative tactics. Bash is acting like my toxic ex. I wouldn’t be surprised if he tried to blow up Joe’s phone after the break up and Joe blocked his number. I’m sure he’s acting pissed because he doesn’t have access to him.

R11 given the response from their actual mutuals ie the cast and the continued Joe follow by most of his friends and family, think it’s pretty clear Joe didn’t do anything to deserve that level of public bitchiness. In your groupchat with idk nell and Kiera fine, call Joe an evil whore, but don’t be so petty and rude in public

It’s difficult to kiss and make up when you have the Atlantic Ocean between you. Maybe it was just a fight that escalated and ended in them breaking up.

R11 Still going with he didn't really want a complete breakup, but maybe just wanted break and Joe said no since he didn't wanna have to spend his summer seeing if Bash would like him again. Then Joe fucked a guy who enjoys eating ass.

Though that's being charitable to Bash because if he's acting like this and did the breaking up he's just pretty shit. Considering how the cast is acting could be he's just petty and jealous Joe moved on.

When did Joe unlike Billy’s post?

R11 Meaning of that comment: Joe is not the perfect Charlie Spring (who is a fan of the classics).

R11 has bash read the Iliad? And not just for school? Would love a source on his apparent intellectualism

R16 I noticed he unliked it in May, but don't really know when. He liked it like a day after Billy put it up in late April

Bash is just shooting himself in the foot. The longer he keeps this up, the less grace the rest of the cast (who have clearly tried to stay neutral) will have with him.

R18 Maybe he's trying to be a bit cute since he's half Greek. Basically, Joe doesn't understand meee and not Joe is too dumb for me. Who knows.

R18 Bash spoke about Alexander the Great and Hephaestion in an interview for Choose Love so he’s seemingly a fan of the ancient Greeks.

R22 That’s why I hope he’s not going to the premiere. Joe doesn’t need to stress on a day that’s supposed to be a celebration.

We all love us some Ancient Greek gays.

R23 Bash can’t process his breakup on his finsta like any other celebrity?

Miles Heizer posted a bunch of sad breakup songs when he and Connor broke up. This is nothing.

Surely you realize there's a difference between posting sad songs and posting songs about winning the breakup and being better than your ex, right?

R28 I think sad songs would endear him to some people. My poor baby marshmallow squish is sad, etc.

R28 Those were sad songs and not shady break up songs.. Miles wasn't going around turning people against Connor. His closest friend Mae used to continue liking pictures and all of Connor. Or he wasn't going around posting comments like R11 .

They’re probably in an old Connor and Miles thread but they were both woe is me and fuck you songs, it went on for weeks.

R32 then miles is also a weirdo for that and the only one who can handle a breakup maturely is joe

R24 presuming he read sparknotes or song of Achilles. Not presuming from that he read the Iliad.

R32 So maybe they’ll be friends in a few years too.

What is it with Song of Achilles? So many gay men love it, it’s Russell Tovey’s favorite book.

In all seriousness while Alice is selfish and also this might blow over and be awkward but amicable enough by the fall, if I were her and Patrick I’d be seriously looking at the scripts to figure out how to write bash out for s3. If he needs to be in it, have a single scene where he tells Nick he’s transferring schools and is a cunt about Charlie, nick tells him to fuck off, the end. Because I cannot imagine there is a storyline important enough for a minor villain in a story to allow someone to be a total menace to their lead actor and cause tension on set.

R34 being as kind as possible, joe has a career now, let alone how good it’ll be in a few years. Don’t think he needs to or will have time for bitter exes who just decided to get over themselves.

It’s actually sending me that he (probably) muted Kit.

What makes you think that?

Steph liked Kit’s post, I don’t see him muting anyone but Joe.

Kit is actually someone who is being neutral here so muting him would be a terrible decision if Bash has actually decided to do that.

R35 The Song of Achilles is a gay retelling of the Iliad focusing on Patroclus and Achilles, I can see why it’s Russell Tovey’s favourite book.

Alice is so oblivious about stuff, I don’t think she will do anything to the s3 scripts unless others ask her to. But I also fully expect them to treat Bash more like Olivia Coleman for s3. All the scenes he’s in are filmed back to back over the course of 2 days near the end of the shoot. And if a lot of the Ben stuff is going to be flashbacks while Charlie is dealing with mental health stuff, they could film those scenes as solo shots of Ben saying horrible things. Joe might not even need to be on set for the few days Bash is there.

Genuine question for the thread. Do you guys think Bash willingly skipped PFW or do we think he wasn't invited to any of the shows?

He wouldn’t have a problem getting invited to shows. He probably declined the ones that were on the table for him in May.

R33 Most of Miles songs were woe is me I got dumped and miss him so much. I don't remember all the details, but Connor came across as the more petty one. He also went on a date with a teenager and unliked some posts of Miles on IG. It's nice they are friends now, but thinking about it not too shocked about Connor now

R43 I want to say he wasn’t invited. I can’t imagine him being invited and turning them down, it’s the quickest way for someone with no real juice to get kicked off of the lists for that brand come the next shows. I think he’s more likely to be a LFW invitee than a PFW one on his own.

Considering influencers with less than 100k followers with no real reach were seen at even high end shows this year he would’ve been able to go had he wanted to. I’m more surprised Joe only went to one.

Brands pay celebrities significantly more if they agree to only attend one show, because then there isn’t cross promotion. Joe probably agreed to only attend AMI pre-breakup. He can still wear Dior to red carpet events, but AMI is more of an everyday brand that Joe seems to really like. It’s possible Bash was also planning to go to AMI but was listed as a +1 on the invite and was this uninvited. Or maybe Bash isn’t as big of an AMI fan and had planned to skip PFW this year since Joe was only going to one show.

What shows was Harry Lambert at? I’m honestly glad that partnership doesn’t seem to be going anywhere.

The pictures of Kit and Corey are cute.

R48 I don't think Harry went at all.

R49 Forgetting he has a gf, they would look cute together.

R50 Harry seems to have been with Maya Hawke for her Asteroid City promo.

R46 tbh I would classify everything he’s done since the breakup (alienating his more famous ex, their more famous cast mates, and if this keeps up the producers overall re his professionalism) as a bad career idea. Him turning down PFW is the least of my concerns in that regard

R48 as someone who thinks bash is acting like a dick and needs to be taken down a peg at the moment, I’m sad to see that partnership is going nowhere. Bash is hot but I have faith in Harry’s ability to make everyone look like a clown

R53 I'm really curious how he'll act with the trailer and once the show is out. It'll be really strange if he doesn't say anything. My guess is he'll post when the show is out and only praise Alice.

R55 I think if he doesn’t ignore the way he’s currently going he’ll pointedly seek out praise calling Kit the standout and post that

R56 He seems to be mad at Kit too so he'll probably say Yaz and Will elevated the season or something.

R39 so the entire family is weird and petty?

It'll be interesting to see who Bash tries to latch onto for engagement if he does end up distancing himself from Kit. It's not like he can fall back on Nell with her 5k likes per post or Connor with his 40k likes per post.

R58 They are rich, what do you expect

Poor Kit. Catching strays from Bash's side even though he tried his best to show that he is being neutral.

Update on this:

Kit, after 6 hours: 11 likes (Ash, Leila, Bradley, Bel, Jenny, Cori, Rhea, Pat, Cormac, Joe, Tobie), 3 comments (Tobie, Leila, Cori).

Bash, after 22 hours: 6 likes (Ash, Leila, Bel, Kit, Will, Tobie), no comments.

Kit wins!

R59 He really can't use Kit anymore. He should really clean up his IG next. He's obviously got time to unfollow people.

R62 I don't care how people wanna spin it, that's not a great look for him

R62 And how many on Joe's latest post?

Joe: 11 likes (Momo [Tao's mom], Ash, Bradley, Bel, Jenny, Cori, Kit, Will, Pat, Kizzy, Tobie), 3 comments (Tobie, Bradley, Kizzy)

Not cast, but also just saw that Zak Maoui from British GQ left a comment on Joe's: "Gorge ❤️"

R66 Appreciate Bradley shooting his shot

R64 All their friends in the industry knew they were together. Bash posting break up lyrics and writing a long caption about how Maisie won the breakup is just unprofessional. Idc what people say.

R69 It's also delusional. Bash won Connor. Seems like Joe got everyone else. Career wise, Joe has HS S2 which comes out in August, he'll film HS S3 in Oct, November The Marvels sets up Young Avengers, Agatha and HS S3 come out in 2024. I'm sure in that time he'll get a major magazine cover and some award nominations and probably a new project.

Or I guess he could just look down on Joe in general.

Joe's better off with people in his life that don't feel jealous, or competitive, or rest their feelings of adequacy or inadequacy on the state of their careers. I'm going to use him because he's an easy example, but think about Joe's dynamic with Kit. There's never been any resentment there. Joe's been supportive through Kit amassing more followers and winning awards for the show. Kit's been supportive through Joe booking Marvel and has expressed nothing but pride in him. They're both good people generally and good people to have in each other's corners through the ups and downs of their careeers of choice specifically.

I love his nose.

Bashll be fine, he has family money to fall back on even if all he does are one off episodes and small plays for a long time, and his career is honestly pretty decent. He’s also very good looking which does help him transitioning from being a child actor. But he’s just being frank not so talented that he can get away with burning bridges and being a bit of a prick, especially when Joe is at least publicly being classy about it and more discreet.

Re the cast: not a cast member, but baby queen also commented on joes.

Nick is straight up a ginger and Charlie has the boldest eyebrows I’ve ever seen on him. How is Alice honestly denying her inspo

Connor posted about leaving Cannes, would think he's leaving with Bash.

R71 Same. His nose and his lips are perfect.

If bash decides not to post for HS I wonder how Connor will choose between his two great loves Alice and bash

R77 It’s easy, he’ll praise Alice and ignore Joe and Kit. For those who said Joe and Connor weren’t on bad terms, what do you make of his silence on Connors birthday?

R77 Is he still trying to be a writer? He’ll go with Alice if he has to pick, I think.

R78 I don't think bad terms, but probably cooled off a lot and won't ever hang out again. Though it would be awkward to post about his birthday knowing he's on vacation with Bash.

I wonder if this is a goodbye Cannes post too

Bash is looking good. Connor looks like he’s trying to act younger than he is.

Looking at them you get why try-hards are often off-putting.

Mirror selfie

He looks hot R84.

Connor is seriously so shitty towards Joe even I'm amazed

He's so handsome but that's too much clothing.

R84 He's so flat that it wouldn't surprise me if people were confusing him with a surfboard on the beach.

R84 Showing off his flat ass.

Well that’s a small hint of ass, it’s nice to see.

Bash is more blessed in other apartments.

R82 Connor trying to act cool is hilarious. Never seen someone try this hard.

R90 I was gonna say, it's a bit of ass at last.

Now post a bulge shot in those white jeans.

R81 This picture is so corny, and not even fun corny.

R93 Kit has a dump truck. Those jeans did nothing for his crotch unfortunately but that's not his fault.

Not that Kit’s post won’t hit 1M (it will, and then some), but it’s certainly gaining at a slower rate than usual. I was the person asking about the low engagement on Joe’s post - looks like the person who said the photo had already been seen too much was onto it. That photo that Kit used (or something similar) has been around for days. Bash not liking the post has me dead

R84 Bash looks great. He might be being a bit of arsehole (I concede) but he’s doing it with a great tan. Still think the break up was a good thing for them

R84 he’s hot, shame he’s a dick

R97 Am I the only one who does not care at all about the number of likes they get? Unrelated but this video of Tom is kinda sad. I hope Joe or Kit won't fall into the trap of only doing superhero projects.

R98 The fact that he acts like a child turned me off. He needs to hook up and mind his business.

R99 Tom should be doing Broadway.

R99 Joe's got HS and I'm sure other projects. I don't see him just doing MCU.

And Bash is hot even if he has no ass or lips and seems like a dick lately.

R99 tbf I don’t think most people on the thread care too much, it’s more a point of interest. Off the back of joes post having low numbers, seeing even Kit who usually has astronomical engagement do poorly suggests there’s something about fashion week posts specifically that don’t perform super well. My guess is that’s especially true with younger stars, as their fan bases are more likely to follow rampages and avidly seek out their content.

R99 I think joe and Kit are in better positions. Kit isn’t even in one rn anyway, but re joe, his look, his ties to HS, and the specific character he’s playing make typecasting less likely. Especially because recent marvel contracts are way less golden handcuffs. I like Spider-Man a lot and think Tom played him great but he’s just extremely earnest and sweet all the time. Wiccan is bitchy, conflicted, etc. it’s a more complex role - actually kind of scarlet witchy

R99 Wiccan isn’t one of the big name, marquee heroes whose actors end up shackled to Marvel in order to pump out trilogies, so Joe should be fine.

No front shot, Bash? Give the people what they want.

R99

Honestly what i would like for Joe is to go the Toni Collete route and do various things. Joe isn’t the chris’s where you can kinda only see them as superheroes. He has a distinct look that can fit into various types of projects and i think we will start to see that going forward.

As for kit, ngl i would have assumed he would have nabbed the superhero role first, but considering his stuff since hs has been indie, i don’t think he will fall into that trap either.

Ngl it’s a little funny how easily joe could body bash right now. As said in the last thread just find some tweet or meme about how Alice cast everyone perfectly and add a semi shady one liner about how literally everyone is exactly their character except cormac who’s nicer. He’s very lucky joes response to him acting up is ignoring it or posting hot selfies

R99 probably not the only one but I’m interested so I asked. I find their engagement interesting because it’s always been so high so when it isn’t at the same levels I wondered why. I’m 10 years older them and gay so Kit’s appeal to women and huge numbers of like really blow my mind. Always interested in their following numbers as well, but I like stats.

I read something recently about how Tom had so much talent but he’s channeling into these torturous roles. He’s so charming, and not a bad actor with a really joyful energy. He should be looking for roles that compliment his strengths rather chafing against them. Superhero roles typecast you but it’s about diversifying within your strengths. Hopefully, Joe and Kit both have great advice around them

Wait do you think him posting with Connor is aimed at Joe? Why would it be? Joe won’t even see these.

R108 tbh I’ve always gotten the sense that while Tom is a great actor he’s not necessarily good at choosing projects.I think he is really tempted by big breakout roles and wants to get that acclaim for not just being Spider-Man, which I get, but I think being willing to try indies etc would be better. Kit and Joe both seem pretty open to smaller roles. Kits movie is a tiny indie, joe seems to still be really grateful for his tiny donmar play. I don’t think either seems too concerned about having some insanely big prestige role that launches their career as serious actors immediately

R109 a lot of these question people have weighed in on 20 times over in the chat, the billy one included. Re Connor the idea seems to be he NEVER posted with Connor when he and joe were together - even occasions they hung out without joe - so now him incessantly posting the one mutual who “took his side”, bringing him to his dad’s house in Cannes for his birthday, flaunting gifts he got him while ignoring Kit and sniping at joe might indeed just be one more way in the many he’s being a dick to joe

R109 Him constantly posting about Connor and trying to hammer it in that Connor is on his side is what's not sitting right with many. Not just specifically about this post.

R109 Bash hasn't posted this much Connor since before HS S1. Dunno how you can view it as anything but saying Connor is on his side to all their mutuals even if you think Joe won't see it

He’s looking amazing but he needs to post something with less clothes.

Does anyone know where the snail jeans are from?

If bash doesn’t like to see his ex being happy without him he should try 1. Being less of a cunt, 2. Not dating someone more talented and successful than him. Good luck winning the breakup though king

Even if we ignore the constant posting of Connor to his story and grid, how does one explain this? This is so clearly him being petty.

R103 In the EW interview Joe said he was dying to do a different role aka a darker role, so I'm not sure Wiccan will be that different from Charlie. Maybe a little. R110 I'm not fond of WME, they have a tendency to fuck up their young talent so I hope Kit has very good agents that can make his dream roles come true.

R118 but Agatha is just one project. Looking at wiccans whole comic arc it does get darker and more complex for sure. Peter Parker is overall always more optimistic and lighthearted

Bash also screwed himself in the winning the breakup Olympics (not that he ever really had a chance of winning) by being so clearly bitchy and bothered. A picture of your flat ass in white jeans isn’t easy breezy cool and dtf when you spent the prior day plotting captions for mediocre indie girl pop to shade your ex

Bash spamming Connor from a trip that I wouldn’t be surprised was originally meant to be a trip with Joe is so funny.

Bash looks sexy and relaxed it’s good to see.

R84 he legit posed to show off … that? Meanwhile this is a candid. Hope he enjoyed a fresh new take on living off his dads money, this time abroad! New and refreshing

R121 the best way to make your ex jealous is to post with a less attractive, less successful, aging, and unemployed friend as we all know

I wish he would post a front view too. And in white jeans too, feels like a crime not to.

R119 Billy becomes a depressed hobo for a minute, all the good guys want to kill him, struggles with his powers, and also thinks of killing himself multiple times, so yeah he's a bit darker than Spiderman

Do think Joe will do other projects though.

R121 I'm assuming it was meant to be their vacation with a stop in Paris for fashion week

R125 Bash not posting bulge shots in general is a crime.

Is he going to archive the pics with joe or did getting under 100K likes on his latest post freak him out too much to do that

R115 I think those snail jeans are Harry Lambert’s fashion line. Bash wore sometimes designed by Lambert last fall that had a similar snail. The fact Joe only went to one PFW show (likely forming a closer tie to that brand) and Lambert didn’t go at all actually makes me think Bash might not have ever been planning to attend PFW.

Joe got the entire HS cast and Marvel, but Bash still has Connor and Harry. Who won the breakup?

R126

I think he will do other projects but i’d think that the next couple of years will be Marvel focused depending on what happens in the MCU. I do not see him signing up for another long term series for a while though

R115 They’re Harry Lambert for Percival Menswear:

Elton's using the same backdrop for DLTSGDOM from his tour for Glastonbury so there was a shot of baby Kit during the set.

R133 that’s fucking cute. Taron is there

R129 It's funny he's had time to do everything else but archive the Joe pics

R135 I really want him to archive every post with Joe and Kit just to see his like average plummet dramatically.

R133 Here's a screenshot.

When season 2 promo properly begins, do we think Joe and Kit will take another fun US trip for interviews etc? Manifesting some fun content if so.

R137 I honestly think so (based on Netflix sending Edvin and Omar over for YR S2). I'm hoping the writers' strike is over sooner rather than later so that they can do a talk show while they're there.

R135 It's gonna go down. He's still losing like 800 followers a day too. Though everyone is losing other than Kit and Joe

R137 Maybe. Them going to DC pride gives me hope they are going to make some US push for the show

Yeah, they’ve already started having them do stuff in the US so I wouldn’t be surprised if they headed over again sometime in August. Yaz recorded the video for Valentine’s Day in NYC, Kit and Joe were in the NYC office for reasons unknown, plus DC Pride (I assume Netflix encouraged them to do it when the embassy reached out).

I'm so used to Joe updating his IG I expected another late night possibly shirtless pic. Very sad he took the night off.

R139 yeah, Joe’s return from social media retirement has been pretty good. Not that his sky rocketed or anything but he’s getting steady increases apart from like a day. Who knew all it took was looking like you cared.

Kit finally liked Bash’s post for those keeping count. Feels a bit like when he used to wait a day to like Maia’s after they cooled off, or Connor liking Joe’s post 48 hours layers

Sorry, so dumb (early here) obviously the watch was on Bash liking Kit’s post. No movement on that.

Joe’s sunburn story is hot. Hope he’s had some FWB sex with Kit or hooked up with somebody. That body needs care lol.

Speaking of that story, I know nobody was looking at his face in there, but it looks like his eyebrow was more shaved than it was in Paris. Maybe he likes the look

R144 no one will ever be able to prove to me that he and Kit didn’t fuck in DC. That’s the real reason bash is ignoring kits post. Amen.

That gives Bash too much credit since he's more petty than that. He's mad Kit posted Joe on his grid when he didn't have to

R147 I hope that’s not the case cuz if Kit turns on him, I’m pretty sure it’s over for Bash.

Of course he’d post Joe, they were doing DC Pride together representing the UK and it was a big event.

R149 how dare you suggest that kit didn’t wrong bash but posting Joe. Joe committed the capital sin of realising he dodged a bullet and rebounding after being dumped instead of crying for months over a rich kid who can’t book a role that comes out without a 5 year delay for the life of him. Kit should’ve respected that bash is the victim there, Joe not having a psychiatric breakdown over the breakup could have to paraphrase bash stans disrupted his small town county fair play

R149 Think they mean the fact that Kit posted a solo shot of Joe as the first picture, especially when he's never posted a solo shot of anyone else as a first picture before.

R151 Bash posted a romantic esque photo of him and Will and no one cried. If Bash is upset over a dump IG post or IG comment on OF Nick when he’s the one (presumably) who broke up with Joe, he needs a reality check real bad.

For the curious, bashs mother commented on Connor’s moms post for his birthday “beautiful boy. Sorry we stole him” and his mom replied “he’s having such w great bday, thank you”. What is it with not only bash and Connor being freaks but their families being the same way? (Or at least bash’s, idk Connor’s mum).

R59 Amybeth still gets a few hundred thousand likes a post, he’ll probably jump to her. Or he can ask Georgie for a job working craft services or something on Wednesday

R151 Yes this.

R153 Just gives me the vibes it wasn't a planned kidnapping, but who knows. I'm sure Bash's mother would support the two dating.

R152 I mean, I think we've all established by now that Bash is being a little bitch and needs a reality check. But that seems like kind of thing Bash would take offense at.

R155 Oh, I'm sure Bash just had the name swapped on Joe's ticket as soon as OF Nick showed up in Joe's Stories.

At least he’s hot.

R155 bashs family strikes me as the type who tell him he’s their special little prince and that Joe is a traitor for not committing suicide over the breakup. Of course their little ickle baby needed a friend to come nurture him on his dads dime because his ex didn’t mourn being dumped enough. Joe dodged a bullet in the biggest way with him. It’s almost alarming how good he is at putting out the puppy dog sweet persona versus how nasty he is now

I think Bash is hurting from the breakup. We still don’t know who did the dumping, it’s all speculation.

Curious in Billy’s involvement.

R160 how sad he’s hurting. Do it in private like Joe. I’m sure this hasn’t all been fun for him either, but he’s not being a bitch

R153 Unless Joe cheated or blindsided Bash, I don’t see why they would freeze him out like that. It’s just too weird. It’s not like they were casually dating. Their lives were intertwined. Bash’s mom was basically Joe’s other mom. It’s just too bizarre.

I'm looking around Connor's mom's account now and laughing at her following Kit for some reason. She only follows Joe, Bash, Kit, and Alice from the show. She's an account to keep an eye on if Joe's numbers go down on his finsta, he follows her and she follows him on it.

R160 Billy the enigma…

R162 yep JOe blindsiding or cheating on bash and all their mutuals being totally cool with it seems more likely than bashs family enabling a spoiled youngest child who has shown a pattern of cutting off exes and their entire friend groups, you’re right

This fan casting actually made me burst out laughing

R165 Btw I don’t think he did. I’m saying that’s the only logical explanation or else they’re all nuts and Bash is the biggest prick!

I wonder if one of them actually cheated.

R168 I think it's possible they had a huge fight, left it unresolved, and then Joe moved on with OF Nick.

R160 Who among us has not flown thousands of miles on our one week off in 6 months to go dump our boyfriend while wearing his sweater. .

R168 I doubt it. Think there would be more dramatic unfollowings. The unfollowings only happened after Joe showed he moved on. I'm guessing fight and had Joe been in the UK they might have worked it out, but who knows.

R167 I honestly did wonder - not if cheating but if he did the dumping and rebounded really fast after the breakup - when bashs sister unfollowed him after the OF Nick thing. But - and the below is long - here are the reasons I think he’s actually just being a dick and they’re enabling him.

1. As people pointed out, Joe seemed really invested literally right up until the breakup while signs had shown with bash for a while. Not hyping joes award win, a quick almost perfunctory visit for their anniversary while spending quite a while with Billy, hanging out in england instead of TS concert. Plus, the Billy of the whole situation.

2. Joe started posting differently basically the second he got back to the states after taking his best friend to the play with him etc. that’s not “I’m gonna dump him” behaviour

3. The majority of bashs family and friends seeming cool with Joe. Lbr if Joe really fucked him over and he could tell them something objectively fuxked Joe did, given how petty he’s being to 1.8 million followers, he’d tell his cousins and friends and especially for non famous ones we’d see more unfollows. Even Connor, who is being a total dick and taking sides, liked joes post to be conciliatory after bash posted him on main

4. The cast seeming not just so normal with Joe, but even nicer - and their pointed drop in support for bash. Kit posted him all over stories, took a thousand pics of him, and made him the cover of his grid post. Tobie hung out with him and thirst commented for him. Even Alice and Patrick’s useless asses have liked his recent posts. Meanwhile bashs latest post had noticeable silence. If they’re this perturbed by his pettiness, then clearly they don’t think there’s a reason for him to be petty

I think the tldr is bash is just being a dick and surrounds himself with people who validate him 24/7. See eg his ignoring kits post even though kit is being nice and neutral

R168 I don't think the cast would be attempting even this half-assed neutrality if that were the case.

Unrelated, but the flash making Kit's hair look blond plus the white shirt are selling me on the Kit as Hulkling vision again.

Absolutely not. Neither of them are being that level of cunt tbh. It would be great if we start that shit here - we know what kind of unhinged teenagers are lurking

R172 I honestly wouldn’t mind Kit as hulkling. Even as a Joe fan who totally understands and to an extent agrees with the idea that we want Joe to shine alone for a bit, this isn’t a situation where they’re entering marvel together. Wiccan is in first and will have agatha and I think another project before he meets hulkling. Joe will have time to develop big fans of him and his wiccan portrayal before hulkling ever comes along

Kit needs to be taller for Hulkling, though I guess movie magic can make him look taller.

I honestly think bash ended it fully, not even asked for a break. But if we’re doing crapshoot theories I can see bash ending it, then maybe regretting it and asking for joe back, joe saying no, and bash not really getting the message and thinking there was still a chance till joe posted Nick as an “I’ve moved on”

Kit recently commented ‘u so cute’ on one of his LA friends’ posts. Joe is truly the exception when it comes to lack of thirst comments. My latest theory is that while Joe and Kit are clearly close and have grown noticeably closer, they’ve always had a very bantery, not ultra mushy friendship (they’ve both described it as this). They obviously have their sweet moments but Kit is more likely to verbally gush about Will or whoever. This doesn’t mean that they’re not as close, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve put some sort of barrier in place to differentiate themselves from the ultra romantic and cheesy Nick and Charlie. It might be quite weird to be loving with each other cos it puts them more in the zone of the characters they play. So it’s much more comfortable to be the total opposite of N&C.

Having said that, I think they’re heading more in the loving direction which is nice to see. Clearly Kit hasn’t quite reached thirst comment comfort level yet though. I remember in season 1 interviews, Kit especially would occasionally say something nice about Joe and obviously mean it, but you could tell he felt a bit awkward doing so.

There’s also the option that because Joe’s profile is more public with more followers than the rest of the cast, Kit doesn’t want to make flirty comments there because he thinks it won’t look professional, or something. Who knows.

I don’t think cheating is unthinkable, you don’t necessarily tell all your friends X cheated and it could’ve been more complicated than that for them. Spending weeks after weeks apart without sex is tough.

Who knows.

This is a family who buys their unemployed daughter a huge manor house to renovate for fun, who makes everyone gather around to listen to bash play piano and sing with middling talent, and who spent years chauffeuring him around for every audition and project he wanted. Not saying they’re awful people for that but I’m not sure where the vision came from that they would not spoil their kid and validate even his illegitimate feelings

R176 At the time I didn't think Bash was an asshole enough to end it completely and then send Joe back to the US alone, but I've reconsidered that theory lately.

It’s so funny to see only bash fans propose maybe someone cheated. You can still think bash is hot and a decent person, just a fuxking awful ex. Joe pretty clearly didn’t cheat and no, someone who is posting about winning the breakup and cringe quote about how his ex couldn’t read him to nearly 2 million followers is not covering up his ex’s cheating to his family and friends. Absolutely nonsense

R177 honest to god, not to sound crazy but at this point I’m legit wondering if it had something to do with bash. If we see kit get more open about thirst commenting and joking with joe in the coming months then I will have a strong suspicion they’re related

R172 Kit is so massive now I genuinely think he must be training specifically for something. He seems even bigger than the trainer’s YouTube. I guess the question is, what are MGM involved in as he was seen there last week.

Tbh, I’ve always thought that maybe they actually broke up after Joe got back to the states. Had a big ‘I don’t think I can do this’ talk and then Joe rebounded with OF Nick. Still think Bash did it. I base this simply on Joe liking Connor’s post that featured Bash

I don’t know, maybe Billy is bi after all and something happened. I doubt it though.

The exaggerated flirty comments that Kit leaves (in pretty clear jest) are the ones that come off bantery, the mushy shit is the stuff he posts about Joe.

R178 At least some people would know so I just can't see it. Joe was working his ass off (not literally thankfully) filming and Bash was practicing making out with girls and doing his play. As R171 mentioned the person's behavior who changed was Bash's, well before the breakup and showed more disinterest in Joe than anything. He wouldn't make Connor come spend the week with him if he was hooking up with other people.

R186 Connor hijacking a romantic holiday kills me. He really had nothing else going on? I guess it's possible they planned to go all three but it's still funny.

I was initially on the “Kit’s genuinely attracted to Will” boat, but after I saw that he leaves those comments on his non-famous friend’s posts too I switched to thinking they don’t ever mean anything, especially given Will goes along with it when he has a girlfriend. I agree with the theory that the absence of those comments is more telling. Of what? TBD. It could be that he’s genuinely attached to a Joe in a way he isn’t with the rest, it could be that Bash wasn’t into it (though he’d be a hypocrite for that), who knows?

I looked and Joe liked Connor’s post on May 24th and Joe posted the stores from New York and of Nick on May 30th.

R187 Connor was just in London. I'm assuming they wouldn't want him around after months apart, but who knows.

R189 when did he post and delete the slut post? And archive the first pic of him and bash? To me that’s actually indicative of when the breakup was “confirmed”. He followed OF Nick on the 22 I think so they were broken up by then.

I honestly think Joe posted Nick as a tiny bit of an “I’m fine” cope after being dumped, but had every intention of trying to stay amicable with bash. Not unfollowing anyone on finsta, a low key single archived post which he hid by archiving another post, etc. That’s why he liked Connor’s post. He didn’t realize him not sobbing down the phone to bash asking for him back would lead to the current scorched earth bitchiness

R189 I think they left things up in the air, fought on the phone and broke up, and by may 30th Joe was single.

People are making up timelines that don’t really make sense to me. Joe posted and deleted the slut story what, 2 days after coming back? A day after? I think it’s actually how we realised filming wasn’t done, the Atlanta license plates. Imo he was single then.

This slipped my mind, but I also want to add that every time you have Kit complimenting Joe on video (like when he called him beautiful in that GQ video), he makes those comments matter-of-factly. He doesn't treat it as banter in the way the Instagram comments come across.

R188 Think they just have a more sincere relationship than ur so hot comments, though wouldn't doubt part of it was because Joe was dating someone Kit considered a good friend

R192 Joe was wearing Nick's hoodie on the 22nd, he was single before that

R191 The 12th of May. They both archived things a couple days later.

I mean, Bash could have flown Connor over as birthday present at short notice. The amount of mates he has there makes me think that either the writing was on the wall with he and Joe and he didn’t want to be there alone with him or thought they’d be finished by the time the trip rolled around. I was thinking about how sad it is for them (and me, and invested grown man who should know better), and about those cute cuddly photos Joe’s friend posted from new years. Long distance really is a killer

R196 when it first happened I felt sad for them though realistically I don’t think most teen romances last. I was also very much on board with “bash ended it but he’s not a bad guy for that, sometimes things don’t work and they can be friends eventually.” Now, I’m glad for Joe he’s out of that and not dealing with that bullshit in a romantic partner anymore. Crazy what a bad taste bash has left in my mouth

R193 Yeah, I think they were done by the time Joe got back to Atlanta.

R195 I agreed at the time that the slut post was a joke and still think so. But it does seem like it was a bit looser than usual for Joe. Also, not out of the realm of possibility they were open. My two sluttiest friends are very happily married to each other, no word of a lie. I do doubt it though

R196 Long distance is not the problem, they were long distance for more than 6 months. The way it ended showed there were some frustrations and conflicts. It doesn't sound like a mature conversation about how 'this isn't working because of long-distance' Bash wouldn't act like that right now.

R199 considering OF Nick is what seems to have caused bash to act like a psychopath, doubt it re openness

R195 Kit thirst comments on Bash’s stuff (or did…) though, so that doesn’t really fit with the theory of him not commenting on Joe’s stuff because of the relationship.

R199 I think the significance of the slut Story is more in the fact that it was the beginning of Joe acting like he had a weight lifted off his shoulders. His personality came back on social media and he was really happy at Pride. Also, agree with R201, doubt it was a sign of them being open.

Anyway, changing the subject. Poor attitude trying to make an article out of the worst sound bites of all time. They need to train the B squad before letting them loose. “What’s S2 like?” “more Heartstopper” - honestly

R193 Yeah, timeline just doesn't add up for the breakup to be later. Joe also had an IG story of him leaving as soon as he went to see Bash and people thought it was just a late story.

It's pretty obvious that Bash and his side got upset about the rebound, not the breakup.

R202 Maybe Bash is a just jealous douchebag and hypocrite and Joe was not

R183

When i first saw I was like, maybe the Gladiator theory was correct and then realized that its a Paramount film. Mgm was bought by Amazon so maybe its going to be an upcoming Prime thing?

R204

Yeah that was nothing. I mean expect the bulk of promo to be kit/joe/yaz/will so it will hopefully be better

Poor Bash. All the muting in the world won't save you from seeing your ex everywhere once Agatha drops.

R204 I had to look it up:

[quote]Chatting to Attitude on the red carpet Corinna Brown, Kizzy Edgell, Bradley Riches, Bel Priestly, and Tobie Donovan teased what to expect from season 2. Corinna Brown, who plays Tara, said there’s “So much more friendship, excitement, and story. More story.” Kizzy Edgell, who plays Darcy added: “It’s more mature but not in a bad way.” The cast was quick to point out that even though season two is “more serious,” it will still feel very Heartstopper-y. Corinna confirmed: “It’s basically even more Heartstopper.” Kizzy also said: “Alice has made strong characters, I feel they can overcome anything.” Bradley Riches, who plays James McEwan in season 2 after playing a Truham student in season 1 also said there’s “more representation” in the upcoming season. Bel Priestly, who plays Naomi, another newbie, told Attitude: “We’re breaking so many more boundaries. Everyone’s got more to their journey” And Tobie, who plays fan favourite Isaac, said season 2 is “bigger, better, there’s so much of everything.” For Isaac especially he said fans can look forward to “more challenges,” and that “there’s more obstacles he has to overcome in his story.”

R204 article would be helpful. Quotes below. Literally none give any real insight or inspire confidence

Corinna Brown, who plays Tara, said there’s “So much more friendship, excitement, and story. More story.”

Kizzy Edgell, who plays Darcy added: “It’s more mature but not in a bad way.” The cast was quick to point out that even though season two is “more serious,” it will still feel very Heartstopper-y.

Corinna confirmed: “It’s basically even more Heartstopper.” Kizzy also said: “Alice has made strong characters, I feel they can overcome anything.”

Bradley Riches, who plays James McEwan in season 2 after playing a Truham student in season 1 also said there’s “more representation” in the upcoming season.

Bel Priestly, who plays Naomi, another newbie, told Attitude: “We’re breaking so many more boundaries. Everyone’s got more to their journey”

And Tobie, who plays fan favourite Isaac, said season 2 is “bigger, better, there’s so much of everything.” For Isaac especially he said fans can look forward to “more challenges,” and that “there’s more obstacles he has to overcome in his story.”

Spare me.

R209 ha nearly identical timing, sorry.

R206 if it’s season 2 of citadel…

Will say also as someone who has gotten a bunch of imo unfair online hate from the fanbase (which joe always defended him from btw), it’s even grosser that bash is acting this way knowing how that feels and trying to make people turn on joe.

R212

I didn’t even think of that. did anyone even watch that

R212 MGM has nothing to do with Citadel.

R213 No one is turning on Joe except Bash's loyal fans (which means 10 people).

R215 someone above said they were acquired by amazon prime and that’s the only (stupidly) big budget thing I can think of that they have he’d have to bulk up for. Hoping not though, he’s super talented

R213 I agree aside from the tragic loss of joebashcandies, the weirdos with no boundaries who approach bash’s mother, and that prude who called joe disappointing, no one will gaf what bash thinks. More saying it’s super shitty of him to do regardless

I don’t think they’d even consider Kit for Citadel because of his age and if he’s meeting the Russos about anything, I think it would be about Hercules before being about Citadel. But can confirm, MGM has no connection to Citadel.

R218

Ah okay that makes more sense. Al of these things with nothing in sight. Like i still want to know what that random shooting day thing in Belfast was.

R219 I’ve been assuming he had to do pickups for One Of Us, but who knows if we’ll ever find out for sure?

I’m wondering what bash’s return to twitter will be

R221 I don't think he'll come back to twitter.

Manifesting timothee and joe making out for a role for the sheer comedy of how traumatized bash would be

R222 he seems to really like it. I thought for sure after JKR he was done and he came back. A breakup is nothing in comparison

R224 What I'll never get is him coming back to tweet about Joe's lips, randomly, in April.

R225 weird as fuck. We may never know. I can see him blindsiding joe with the suggestion of a break and getting back together when They were both done working and for some reason not considering that would be a fuck no for joe.

I'm assuming he just needed a dose of attention and used joe and Kit to get it

Sorry to beat a dead horse but their chemistry is so good. That “hi” had sexual tension, it’s impressive

R228 Hoping Alice was sick when they filmed the hickey scene and Euros change up the script to make it more realistic. Their chemistry is insane.

R226 In general there's a lot of shit that doesn't make sense. He was liking random lovey dovey IG posts in April about relationships, unarchived more Joe pics in April on IG, liked the TS in Atlanta post, liked a Joe picture from TS, followed TS on Spotify though at the same time spending weeks away in Japan and only spent a couple days in Atlanta near their anniversary, didn't hype up Joe winning an award, didn't actually go to to the concert but hung out in a pub instead. Tend to take his actual actions more seriously than his online behavior though. King of mixed signals regardless.

R230 tbf I guess it’s possible he was leaning towards breaking up for a while but still not sure.I can honestly see Joe calling him on it in person because the vibes were off and feeling shocked or blindsided apparently bash had been considering ending it but never filled him in on any of that thinking or something

R228 The way it goes from cute (the way Joe delivers the "Nick!" and Kit's giggle) to hot (the way they check each other out, the way they say hi) in a second is incredible. Give them Emmys.

R232 just seeing how good joe is at the breathy flirtiness - single joe g to be an absolute menace (in the best way) on the gay scene

Apparently Joe won an award from a Spanish entertainment company on Twitter and his fans are barely tweeting about it. Just goes to show that all the whining about Kit being favored by these unimportant awards was all due to jealousy and resentment.

R234 I don’t think that’s true. I definitely think Joe fans can be over the top but so can all the fans because it’s a hysterical young fanbase. Ex: they’ll ignore many positive tweets about Kit getting 50K likes and hyperventilate over some loser troll with 0 followers calling him a queerbaiter instead of just reporting and blocking. I’ve seen a fair few Joe update accounts tweet the award anyway. And tbf I think most of the time they’ve been upset by Joe snubs it’s specifically LGBTQ awards highlighting kit and Yaz and ignoring Joe (and there, I think the real annoyance is they know there’s no way Yaz got more votes than Joe but they feel like that’s problematic to say)

R234 I don't know if I'm the only one that noticed this trend, but the ones that would complain about it every time where you could tell it was resentment and not genuine concern about Joe not being up for LGBT awards were Joe/Bash shippers that hate Kit, so I'm curious to see what happens now that they can't hide behind Joe.

R236 I noticed that too, especially when they would sneak in Bash and his dinosaur shirts in their complaints and say that he was more impactful to the LGBT community than Kit.

R236 I do think it’s kind of interesting that in both camps (the ones who want Joe and kit to fuck and the ones who were obsessed with Joe and bash), Joe seems to be the less liked of the two. Most of his die hard fans I’ve seen on Twitter seem fairly indifferent to his relationships but weirdly love his friendship with Yaz of all people; all shippers seem to have s weird resentment for Joe unless he’s boosting up their actual fav somehow.

R237 while I am not a big bash fan rn and think he’s shown some really gross personality traits I did think he shirts were sweet and nice. But anyone who says it’s more impactful than joes political rallying or just being an out gay lead, kit’s coming out, or Yaz just existing and being very open and proud of being a trans black woman (ex talking about her estrogen in the vogue video) are demented

Circling back to the timeline discussion from earlier, I definitely think something happened when Joe visited Bash in early May. The slut post was very quickly after that and and he posted wearing Nick’s hoodie about two weeks after his visit to Chichester. Also, the only picture we have of Joe in Chichester are one fan siting and this post by Lucy. Even the music Lucy put to go with this picture is depressing sounding.

Either Bash dumped Joe that weekend, or they fought that weekend and then broke up shortly after Joe left. But it wasn’t a happy reunion.

Kit liked bash's post within hours R142 . It was there since last 24 hours almost.

R239 I still bet on breaking up that weekend but if not think joe realised the vibes were really off in person and asked bash about it until he found out bash was reconsidering them or had been thinking about a breakup for months (which is where I think billy was involved). But I honestly still think they ended that weekend, Joe had a day or two of shock, and then dusted himself off a bit. The slut story, the archiving, the shirtless pool pic

R238 People underestimate how big Kit's coming out was. Celebrities were and are still being asked about it to this day (Harvey Guillen, Lee Pace, Olivia Colman [duh], Omar Rudberg, Ncuti Gatwa off the top of my head). People in the British government, including MPs, rallied around Kit. It spawned hundreds of think-pieces across the world, I even read some of the ones in Spanish and French.

R239 I thought this Story was weirdly morose when it was posted, but when everyone said it was Bash on the left (which I now think it might not have been?) I discarded the possibility of a breakup.

Joe cheated. Got caught, freaked out and manipulated as if it was bash's fault for his cheating and now non stop posting shirtless pictures to lure bash back. Whereas bash has decided he needs to move on from this cheating asshole. And if you dont believe the cheating theory, thats fine. That wont change facts.

R242 agreed. I think that is the biggest, Yaz being mentioned in the House of Parliament is the most “impactful” in a political sense, and Joe getting enough attention by publicly calling out a law to get it changed is the most impressive advocacy. With no disrespect to the others, I don’t see how anyone else besides those three is in the conversation for the LGBTQ awards

R244 the artist fka joebashcandies, babes, get a job or a lobotomy I pray

And if you dont believe the cheating theory, why dont you just dm of nick on twitter. But you wont. Because in your heart, you know cheated and you are afraid to find out the truth.

Joe evolving from rebounding to hurt bashs very prestigious $20 ticket play to having a full on affair and flashing nipple to win Bash back is quite the evolution

R246 I'm not kidding when I say this. I genuinely think you have brain damage. This isn't even entertaining trolling.

R238 Tbh with Joe’s move to more adult sm presence I think he’s going to get a more devoted, specific to him, following at some point on Twitter, away from the HS crowd. Basically, thirsty Daddy’s. Might have to reactivate my account to watch the filth unfold.

R246 If you find yourself compelled to yell crazy shit at people online, maybe consider what is happening in your life that’s making you so unhinged. No one is taking your cheating nonsense back to Twitter (you’ve been trying for a week) so stop filling up the threads with it.

Like i said, thats the only thing that explains everything. Which is why you are trying so hard to malign bash, so you can protect joe. But anyone with half a brain can see it, plain and clear.

R239 didn't pay any attention at the time, but that song's about a relationship ending. Would be weird for Lucy to post it if Joe just ended a LTR, but gen z are in general weird

R246 Nick wouldn't answer a DM about Joe tbh. Nice try though.

The Bash stans are really hurt that the cast has already started the process of dropping him, huh?

R250 Nobody was maligning Bash before he started to acting like a petty asshole.

R250 Ok, let's entertain your insanity. You really think Joe would be dumb enough to post his cheating partner on his main account? Also, if he cheated, how come no one is freezing him out but Bash's unhinged side of the family? His cousins are still liking his posts.

R245 get a lobotomy and join you freaks? Nahhh.

For the person who asked where Will was headed, he posted on Instagram that he’s in LA.

R254 it’s so funny to say “everyone knows” because fuck, if it was true which it’s clearly not, people must HATE bash. The entire cast all over joe anyway, Kit posting and clothing and hugging him like crazy, even bash’s cousins still liking his shit. It’s fine to jujus admit your fav is being bitchy right now and will hopefully grow out of it

R256

Interesting, i wonder if its for his music or something else

I feel bad for Joe because Bash was basically his constant. They were always together. Most of his friends from the cast are always traveling (Kit, Will, Yaz), he's always traveling too so he can see his IOM friends that much. Him and Bash were like a team and made sure to stick together. So to see how things turned out, and see how Bash is behaving, it's off-putting.

Bash hasn't been his constant since last year. Joe was in Atlanta mostly on his own and Bash was fucking off to Japan and shit. Which is good, it means it wasn't such an abrupt change.

Obviously I don’t know the reasons behind the breakup but I do think Bash ended it or at least was the one who instigated it. And I think it can’t help but be offputting that for a year and a half Joe put more effort into the relationship - coming to London constantly, integrating into bashs life, schedule, family, and friend group, etc. - and the few months Joe needed Bash to put on more effort while he was literally not working at all and Joe was headlining a marvel show, Bash had some issue with it. As an actor already hard to deal with someone who finds your schedule or life too much; when you’ve spent a year and a half revolving around them and they won’t return the favour even worse

Did Connor know about OF Nick when he went to the TS concert?

The Taylor Swift concert was at the end of April, Joe hadn’t met Nick yet.

R262 the only things Connor knew about at that concert were his own failing career and his ability to clout chase from joe while also resenting his success and preferring his boyfriend

R263 proof that he had not met nick yet or did not know him already? Meeting and knowing is one thing, doing it publicly is an entirely different thing. He had liked one of nick's picture from February. Pretty sure he knew Nick very well by the time he started following him.

not to mention, you are asking me to believe that immediately after joe went back to atlanta after break up, he immediately started looking for hook ups and jumped into bed with nick the first oppportunity, and even hopped around town in NYC while Nick was also visiting within few weeks of knowing each other. Yeahhhh, seems like quite a stretch for a guy who is socially shy.

I’m thinking Bash was being a dick about Atlanta way before Joe went, like instead of planning to stay with Joe in Atlanta he’d rather follow Billy’s idea to go fuck around in Japan.

I was going to give you an actual answer, maybe mention that any dipshit with an IQ above 20 knows that you can like old posts whenever you want and that they didn't follow each other until May, but you're probably the idiot trying to make the cheating thing happen. Anyway, Bash is still a shit actor that is going to depend on his daddy's money for the rest of his life and will accomplish nothing of note when all is said and done.

R265 / R266 You are so clearly a straight woman with no idea how gay men interact with each other. This timeline that you think is so impossible is actually pretty slow moving for young gay men. Older ones as well tbh. We don’t prescribe to hetero bullshit around sex - fucking deal with it. Joe consistently goes back and likes older posts of new follows - it’s a well known part of his MO. I’m a big Bash fan but you’re really building a case against him all by yourself

With the way majority of the cast seems to be icing him out, more than Joe it looks like Bash is the one who messed up somehow.

R265 ngl this is funny to read considering how quickly Joe and Bash got together. They met and Yaz was posting hand holding pics of them in less than a week. Guessing they waited about an hour before hooking up in the bathroom.

I blocked the troll a couple of posts back and it's so much more peaceful. It's amusing reading the replies and I wonder just what she said and I half think about unblocking (not that I'd know how to do that), but nobody needs that level of crazy.

The Joe hating troll and the Bash hating troll should just hook up at this point.

But yes blocking removes the crazy to a certain point.

R272 there is something about having the unread posts that breaks my brain. Then I ended up biting because the thing that has been annoying me about the new trolls accusations of cheating is how incredibly out of touch they are with queer culture. By questioning how Joe could have been hooking up with Nick so close to the break up and saying there must have been cheating they’re showing their homophobic teen het hand. Clearly no fucking idea about how sex and relationships work for queer men. It’s such a heteronormative narrative (I know it shits people when that word is thrown around but I feel it’s justified in this case).

Kit sharing David Furnish’s post is so nice. It’s great he and Elton have maintained a relationship

I keep hoping they do a dinner again, preferably while Joe is in London.

R276 sadly this time bash will not get an invite

Second pic is a shot of joe in London. Unsure when

R276 Still gutted for Joe that he missed out on that.

Always on his phone.

Bash’s movie is actually coming out. A miracle

Charithra and Bash

I know we all hoped for a queer plot twist but the photos and description at the source don’t really suggest that. Also the photos make me think it’ll be a bit cringe but maybe I’m wrong and it’s really funny

I figured it would between him, charithra and tanner. Also figured it would be after HS. He can now ignored that and just focus on his movie. I cancelled Amazon Prime months ago. Sorry my guy.

R283 the poster is awful and really cheap looking but Bash still looks cute

This looks like the most run of the mill teen romcom of all time. But maybe it’ll give him some non HS fans.

R283 Seems pretty teen typical romcom, though I guess the twist is the dorky main character is a guy instead of a girl. Will he take off his glasses and become cool?

And does seem like Maisie's in the movie.

Maisie is definitely in it. Bash looks great with those glasses.

Could be wrong but doubt it’ll get a lot of promo. They’re really pushing RWRB which is out a month before it. I’m sure this’ll get a small premiere and they’ll line up a few interviews for the cast but doubt it’ll be anything like the GQ push those leads are getting.

R282 not to sound shady because he’s obviously super hot but his side profile really is his worst angle (they’re all still pretty good), it’s interesting that his jaw looks so defined from the front and so weak from the side

It does look like it could be fun. We’ll see September 8:

I’ll be honest I have no intention of watching this or ACGG. I will rely on teenagers making edits and scene packs to reduce it down for me

Random but there’s a hashtag for HS fans to post selfies and there are truly maybe 2 men among them.

R296 That’s what happens when the creator is a asexual woman.

What school was HTDBW filmed at?

Bash's movie looks awful and low-budget. Probably going to skip that one.

He looks hot so I’ll watch it despite it being a heterosexual romance.

This has always looked and sounded boring, the stills and posters only hammered that home. Bash is too mediocre an actor to give this a shot. At least with the Cuban movie I'm tempted to skip around to Kit's scenes.

I think HTDBW could be fun because they’re breaking the fourth wall, I’m not that familiar with the plot of Cuban Girl.

Are the stills and release date making any noise at all?

He did comedy really well in Horrible Histories so I think Billy Walsh could be good but we’ll see. Seeing him with Tanner will be interesting.

R299 It looks like the movie Rhea did recently, the same type of movie stills.

R301 Not yet, I’m guessing Bash, Tanner and Charithra will post about it soon or after the trailer. It’s a small rom com though, it’ll find its audience.

The pictures that come out of Kit from the Loewe show are cuter every time I see them.

R303 The Consent one or was there another one? I don't really follow Rhea.

R303 Yeah, that one. Looks like Bash was partying it up at Cannes.

R300 Both movies sound formulaic as fuck, the only difference is that Kit's a much, much better actor than Bash.

R307 is meant for R306, sorry. Also, did Joe go to Cannes with Bash last year?

R307 That’s from the same night as the story he posted the other day I’m guessing. Glad he had fun while there, Cannes is amazing.

R309 They went on vacation somewhere last year in the summer, though we never knew where. Could have been Cannes I guess.

I think I'm over their breakup. I think it was for the best and they seem to be enjoying their summer. I don't care about who unfollows who and which family members like or don't like shit. I still think Bash fumbled and is acting petty but hopefully, he'll get over it by the premiere. If he wants to cut Joe and Kit out and even the show, I really don't care. Good luck to him in his career.

R283 What's up with the poster? A 10 year old could have come up with a better poster instead of the one they have released.

R312 The breakup itself we've been over a million times and nothing new to add, and I don't care about family members though am still nosey enough to want to see how things work out with the cast. Though I'm assuming Tobie, Will and Kit will continue to like Bash's shit but not sure if Bash is paying any attention to them. Missing Tobie's bday and then not liking Kit's post is a bit interesting. Either he'll get over it or he won't. He's still being called Heartstopper's Sebastian Croft, so he better hope he gets something else to replace that soon if he wants to avoid it all.

Either way, same. Fly free Bash and got work and find yourself another twink. It's been fun.

I’m invested to the extent I need bash to stop being a little bitch and leave joe alone. He’s free to find another twink, fuck around on his parents dime, and make other romcoms all he wants with or without paying attention to Heartstopper so long as he stops being bitter about his more successful ex moving on. He does look like he had fun but then the next day was being a bitchy fuck on IG so grain of salt.

He might find joy in being a little bitch. I'm assuming he thought he ate with that breakup story and making a comment implying Joe couldn't read him. I think it's reaching the end anyway. Not much else he can do. Just remove the Joe pics from his IG and ignore HS if he wants.

Good for Maia. Hope Kit and joe acted similarly

I’m not getting hotness from the stills so far.

Alice liked bash’s post btw. Going to say she’ll use her resentment of joe getting acclaim and her friendship with Connor and she and bash will team up to menace joe on set

Bash looks like a hot nerd. If only it were gay.

R322 definitely for the best for joe. Bullet dodged, probably for the best for bash in the sense teenage relationships rarely last, but I don’t care for him so kind of whatever on his best interests

R320 I’m getting a bi feeling from Tanner’s character in the stills. But that could just be Tanner LOL

Hot nerd is the accurate term, I’m into the glasses.

Alice’s vacation post. Bash commented legit within a minute of her posting it with a pun so guessing he has her post alerts on or knew she was posting it. But once again the most ironic comment coming from him

R323 At this point, there's no denying that he's deliberately ignoring Kit's posts. Like I said, I don't care about him if he wants to be petty. So long as he stays in his place.

R324 I’m more annoyed because if he’s kissing Alice’s ass, given her total lack of care for joe and Kit, she’s more likely to 1. Bring Ben back 2. Not gaf if bash is making joes life shitty on set

R325 Bash can do all the kissing ass he wants, Joe is still the lead. Even if he's back for season 3, it wouldn't be for more than a few days. He's irrelevant.

I don't think Bash liking and commenting on Alice's post means he wants to "make Joe's life shitty on set". They're not the first coworkers to date and break up.

R327 read the comment again. My point is he’s clearly been very comfortable being a dick to joe thus far. And if he doesn’t need to worry about his boss telling him to quit it because he’s kissing her ass, then he’ll continue doing so. Yes other coworkers have broken up, and in situations where one of them has been this big a dick post breakup the other has often admitted in the future that filming with them was hell

Ignoring Kit is not as dumb as dumping Joe, but it's the 2nd dumbest thing he's done lately.

The whole Alice will make Joe's life miserable is not serious. She's too self absorbed to care and she actually loves Charlie more than Nick. She cares about the success of her show more than anything else.

R327 Bash has already turned Connor, one of Joe's close friends, against him. He'll probably try and be the center of attention on set while ignoring Joe and Kit. But I don't think it will matter as he'll be on set for a maximum of one week. He's not a major character.

R328 Tbh i think other people would step in if he couldn't be professional. Joe is also surrounded by a whole group of great friends. I suspect if Bash films he'll do it all in a couple days and be gone.

R330 Face it, Connor was just Joe's friend because of Bash. He probably always wanted to fuck him.

R331 Well yeah, Connor is a jerk but I think he was genuinely a good friend to Joe. That's why I don't care about him or Bash. They can fuck off and do whatever.

R329 to be clear I dont think alice is going to be an active dick to joe. I just think she won’t do the thing she should do, which is step up for her lead and tell a minor actor to cut it out and be professional. I think she’d more likely say joe has to be professional and deal with it

Ignoring Kit is such a dumb move. Never thought Bash could be so dumb. I guess post break up makes you act immaturely.

It does seem pretty obviously Bash is trying to stake claim on certain people. Guess he knows Joe already got Kit and Tobie. Maybe he'll try to get Will (he won't)

R332 It sucks for Joe in that he might have thought they were friends, but turns out he was just the boyfriend of Connor's actual friend.

R335 Better to learn he's a snake now than later. And Connor should get it in his head that Bash is just using him to make Joe jealous.

Will did a FW interview where it seems to confirm that he's going to London Pride with Joe and Kit:

[quote]On top of all that, he's also prepping for a Heartstopper Pride moment, which will see him and his co-stars (Joe Locke, Kit Connor etc) take to the streets of Soho on Saturday as part of the annual London parade.

It looks like the cast is going to London pride again. Zak did an article for will at kenzo and it was mentioned

I think you’re reading too much into it but they’re young so maybe it’ll be that dramatic. I guess we’ll see but I reckon they’ll be over it after the summer.

R337 That's nice. He seemed bummed to have missed it last year. I hope Kizzy, Cori, Jen can go too. And Yaz.

R334 I'm guessing he saw the writing on the wall that Kit will always pick Joe. With how territorial he ended up being about Joe (only flipping out when Joe showed signs of moving on, not when they broke up) I wouldn't be surprised if he's like that about friends and is mad that Kit has Joe all over his IG now.

R339 it’s totally possible and I’d like that to be the case. As I said yesterday I think joes actions suggested to me that yeah he was a bit hurt and posting “I’m fine/happy without you” stuff but nothing suggesting he didn’t want to be amicable. All bash’s actions point that way. So hopefully he either gets it together and can be polite and not petty, or he’s written out

Excited for the cast at Pride - I wonder if Kit will be all over Will instead of Joe this time, lol. Also ‘busy prepping for’… sounds big?

now if Bash ends u going to pride, i wonder what that dynamic will be like

R344 He'll avoid it altogether most likely.

R344 I doubt he goes. Though not like he doesn't have practice ignoring Joe at Pride.

R344 Why would he go? It's clearly a big Heartstopper thing this year and he's irrelevant.

R344 Bash has been featured in British GQ before, so either he's not going or breaking up with Joe reduced him to an "etc" at British GQ.

Does anyone know if Kit or Joe posted and deleted a comment or something earlier today? One of the LATAM fans is vague tweeting about her favorite Joe/Kit being unhinged Joe/Kit and "understanding the message."

R349

i saw her tweet that but had no idea what she was talking about

Bash put Prime Video’s Instagram post about the movie on his grid:

Guess Joe will be a third wheel if it's only him attending with Kit and Will. Maybe his mum might attend like she did last year.

Feel like some of you are exaggerating how Kit and Will act because of the IG comments. They've never been all touchy or made Joe into a third wheel when they're together at things.

R352 They're all friends and I'm pretty sure Tobie will be there too.

R353 We haven’t seen them do that much in public together cos it’s usually Joe and Kit. Joe and Kit are close but I’m pretty sure Will and Kit are closer. They were an instant click from the start and do more stuff together one on one. I’m sure they’ll all be quite touchy feely on Saturday anyway.

R352 It's a HS event. It's gonna be the Kit and Joe show once again.

R355 I don’t think they’re closer per se, I think they’re all close in different ways. I would say Kit is individually closer to both joe and will than they are to one another but i don’t think there’s any way to say “will and Kit are definitely closer”. So much of these friendships are behind the scenes anyway. Absent that comment from Will about how he, tobie, and Kit hang out and drink together a lot we never would’ve known tobie was particularly close to them for instance.

R355 Were you not around for the Joe Lycett Pride thing they did? Kit and Joe were dancing together the whole time and Will was very much there.

Any UK DLers planning to go this Saturday?

Well then

R360 bash and Bradley getting together is the plot twist I need.

R360 That cracked me up. not him finally talking to Bradley

R349 I think she's having a fever dream or something. Doubt they could post something without other people seeing it

R355 Are you the same person that wrote the comment about Joe and Kit having a barrier in between them based on the lack of facetious Instagram comments yesterday?

A bit off topic, but it's kind of funny seeing Heartstopper fans try to make Will and Yaz seem as close as Tao and Elle when these kind of bland quotes are all they have to work with.

R363 Relax, they’re just observations. I find their friendship interesting and I’m a bit of a psychology geek so I analyse things. I’m far more invested in Kit and Joe’s friendship than anyone else in the cast so it isn’t like I have some ulterior motive. I continuously say that I think they’re very close, but there are nuances.

Will we get to see Yaz on Saturday?

Looking forward to pride. We got great shots of them last year and they are considerably hotter now.

Looking forward to press in general. It’s always nice to see them in interviews even if it’s just silly little quizzes. Who knows maybe some of those quiz questions will allowed them to stir the pot a little bit more with the break-up drama. Out of curiosity, I didn’t watch HS season 1 until like August of last year so I don’t know the timeline. Do they start doing press for the season pre-release or post?

The chaos that will take place if Bash ends up attending the Pride parade this coming Saturday.

R367 tbh I don’t think we can know much based off last year. They clearly didn’t expect it to be such a huge hit. They did some press pre show but I think they’ll ramp it up like crazy this year.

R368 he’ll take tanner and Connor and try to recreate the dancing viral moment without joe

R364 I think he also spelled her name Yas, which I found very interesting

R366 I doubt it, I'm pretty sure she went to Black Pride and the Trans Pride parade instead last year.

R365 Girl, just say yes and keep it moving next time.

Feel like a prophet, just asked yesterday about his return to twitter

Are my eyes deceiving me or has Joe liked Bash’s post?

R365 I’m relaxed and will take this as a yes answer.

R373 He did, Joe's officially won the IDGAF war.

R373 they are not. Jfc talk about being the bigger person for real

He even posted to TikTok for HTDBW

R373 He did. Joe's a really nice guy

R372 That's funny since I said he wouldn't. Good on you.

Joe is so chill. Aspire to be as mature as him after breaking up with someone. Bash could learn something from him.

R377 he’s wearing a love on tour shirt so I’m now gonna say based on that he and Connor fucked and he took connors.

Bash is likable but his friend group comes off so fucking annoying

Delusional Joe and Bash shippers are about to give this a spin of their own now after hating on Joe for weeks.

R381 waiting for them and the demented bash fan on this thread to say this proves Joe was the wrong one and he’s trying to win bash back

Joe already liked a post with Bash in it from Connor. He didn't like Bash's posts in May, but he seems chill now.

R381 If he unfollows OF Nick I'll give it to them until they obviously are not back together, but it's not happening

R377 He looks so hot.

I’m guessing he and Joe talked.

Joe may have liked his post knowing it would piss Bash off. Anyways that sounds like something I would do lol

Either way Joe wins. Not that I really think there is much to win and Bash isn’t terrible just being a bit of a cunt.

R384 he was being a bitch as of two days ago so unless they talked yesterday I’m guessing Joe is just being the bigger person, which has been the theme of this breakup

R384 I'm not sure if they did or not. If Bash likes a Joe post I'll say maybe. Joe could just be supporting him since he cares about him regardless and wants him to do well. As in he's being mature and not a cry baby.

Joe is such a likable guy. Can never understand anyone who dislikes him. He didn't turn anyone against Bash like Bash has been doing. Hasn't been insufferable or petty towards his ex. And now even liking his post. That too a day after Bash spent shading his ex through the Maisie Peters song.

R385 I would be that petty too, but Joe's probably not

Tbh when you’re a marvel star, lead of a Netflix show, and Emmy nominee at 19, I think being the bigger person and tossing a pity like to your ex’s biggest role (an Amazon prime teen romcom) is nice!

Joe continues to be so damn mature.

R384 Or Joe is just more mature than Bash.

Also confirming joe doesn’t have him muted and did see his petty stories and shit with Connor, and is still being more mature. Compared to bash sulking about even kit

He keeps unintentionally self owning with comments and stories istg. Highlighting “Croft gets messy” - yes, we’ve noticed. Also attitude is very generous with their use of the term “Heartstopper star”

I figure they’ve had contact, they’re also working together in the fall.

R395 since two days ago? Given joe completely ignored bash’s most recent pettiness, I think everyone else is right and he’s just a nicer more mature person

This is actually pretty cute

Joe knew it would look very odd if he didn’t like Bash’s post. He’s not going to draw attention to their problems like Bash did.

R397 Jonathan has been really supportive of him and joe. He hypes joes Wiccan casting. He’s also really close to charithra from s2 of Bridgerton

R398 honestly I think he’s just a really lovely person, more than just being PR or diplomatic. His family and friends haven’t unfollowed bash, he hasn’t retaliated against any of bash’s pettiness, he hasn’t unfollowed anyone who unfollowed him. I think despite him being the snarky one and bash being the “sweet” “golden retriever” it’s pretty clear who is actually th more decent person.

R398 Exactly. Joe knows how to act cordially and professional online. Good for him. That will make it go very far in life.

Weirdly enough, Joe liking Bash's post only makes me like Bash even less in comparison.

The content keeps coming, a video with Bash, Charithra and Tanner:

R402 joe is winning the breakup so hard it’s shocking. Tbh it makes sense the only way bash stans can continue stanning is pretending that joe did something heinous because even a standard “hurt feelings breakup” doesn’t excuse how big a dick he’s being in comparison to joe being a fucking saint

R403 They all look so good. I’m guessing Bash filmed his in Cannes.

Really curious to see how he'll act when season 2 is out. Will Bash act like he's never heard of it or promote it heavily?

I guess in Joe’s mind a united front is for the good of the show. He’s not going to let his personal problems mess up a good thing going for everyone involved in the production. A true leader. I think the cast will love him more for his professionalism.

R407 I also think Joe wants Bash to do well and still cares about him. Looks like he took the time to wallow and process his feelings. Maybe Bash will get there eventually.

Joe has been mature about this whole thing right from the start no matter what some Bash fans say.

If Kit pops up and likes and/or comments on the post Bash is going to look even worse. I saw someone ask Bash why he ignored Kit’s post under the comment he left on Alice’s post already.

R409 yeah even if we take everything he “did” as purposeful, he… archived 2 posts discretely and then a third later, posted more stories than he normally does, and posted a tiny bit of a hookups head. More like “rebound/breakup coping” at its worst.

R410 He just liked it and commented "yes!!!!," lmao.

R412 Love that. Bash just looks even more bitter lol

R412 plus tobie and rhea commented and it's on Leila's stories. he truly is looking like the petty, immature one. If he tries to either ignore HS promo or tries to minimize joe in it he will look like the biggest twat in the world

Looking at how immaturely Bash has been handling this entire situation, one would think this is his first break-up or something.

R405 It looks like it's from a different day than when he filmed for Tiktok.

R415 Prob his first long term relationship. Though Joe was 17 years old when they met, so he's got no excuse.

R417 joes first relationship, Joe is the one who lost his entire support network and literal home in London when they broke up, Joe was filming a high pressure show as a lead when they broke up. But I know bash lost clout and his biggest connection and I’m sure that was hard for hin

Joe's comment under Olivia Rodrigo's post.

Kit cheering yess!!!! because bash is covered in food in every shot. Too funny.

They're acting like they've been seen kissing or something. So hilarious.

R419 Looks like Bash liked and commented on it before him as well.

R420 Knowing how vain Bash is, it’s probably why Joe liked the post.

R418 Well yeah, Bash and family are a real shit to take a 17 year old high school student and move him, be his support system in London, invite him to family events and then unfollow him within a week of a breakup.

Bash and Joe will try one more time. Or fuck around again. Mark my words.

R423 Joe liked it before Kit commented.

R425 Fuck? Maybe. Give the relationship another go? Strongly doubt it.

Joe seems to have a healthy amount of self-respect, so I doubt it.

R421 The last thing Joe or Bash need are fans setting them up like this.

R425 Tbh I wouldn't be shocked since Joe had to leave town right after. If he was in the UK things might have talked again. Hard to work shit out if you are thousands of miles apart. Though depending on why they broke up obviously.

I guess we’ll know if all signs of Joe’s personality disappear again.

R428 Frankly I agree with you but big dick is big dick. You don't date someone for two years if the sex is bad.

But I hope they don't and both move on.

Connor currently crying at the idea of it all though.

R432 I mean, it took Joe like a week to find new big dick (that was attached to someone who is actually out and seems to have vaguely intelligent thoughts occasionally).

R434 Yeah but there's something about hooking up with your ex that's almost inevitable. At least, one time. And they'll be in close perimeters soon when they'll film the show so.

Bash has a big dick and shares a lot of the same interests that Joe does. Not sure OF Nick will go see Frozen 12 times. It would be better if they just moved on, but I wouldn't be shocked if they hooked up again.

R433 Bash blueballing Connor for an entire week in Cannes is funny.

IG updates. Joe didn't bleed followers after the nipple video. For those who care about Bash, he's lost 16,950 in the last 30 days.

R436 OF Nick is much more political than Bash, which is right up Joe's alley.

Sadly agree with others another hookup or trying again isn’t unlikely. I don’t think “yeah definitely” but they have a LOT of mutuals, clearly had good sex, will probably be on set together; etc. Primarily concerned that based on how petty he’s been since OF Nick, bash would absolutely hold that over joes head and act like he cheated and bash stayed loyal

Why did Joe date him for two years then? Joe isn’t dumb.

One like isn’t enough for me to change my mind, there’s being the bigger person and then there’s going back to someone who was a total cunt.

R421 Next we are going to hear from the shippers that Joe is still stuck on Bash and is not being able to move on.

R441 Joe isn't dumb but Bash sure was shading him and calling him dumb under Maisie Peters' post.

R443 Joe is too gracious. I would have unfollowed him a long time ago.

Joe’s in London.

R443 I'm sure the Bash fan will come talk about then soon since apparently Joe's showing his nipples to seduce Bash

Bash’s big dick will only remind Joe he’s really a big dick.

R447 LOL who said that? That’s actually quite funny

R446 looking gorgeous and unbothered. He seriously went back to IOM for one day. Excited to see him at pride

Photo from R446.

R446 I think IOM will be his home base. It's not too far from London and he's not rushing to move out like the others. He already has an apartment when he's filming heartstopper or agatha, so he's good.

R449 This person. R265 Who has a lot of amusing takes and is obviously trying to get twitter to pick up Joe cheated talk. Put them on ignore and have a read/laugh.

[quote] Joe cheated. Got caught, freaked out and manipulated as if it was bash's fault for his cheating and now non stop posting shirtless pictures to lure bash back. Whereas bash has decided he needs to move on from this cheating asshole. And if you dont believe the cheating theory, thats fine. That wont change facts.

R447 That’s not how things work. You show your nipples to seduce new people.

Bash doesn’t deserve the grace the cast and especially Joe are giving him, but hopefully it soothes his wounded ego and he stops acting like a complete arsehole.

Reminds me of what someone said about the connor/miles parallels. Will be hilarious if Connor burned that bridge with Joe to get blueballed by bash in his birthday weekend and bash and Joe to end up on good terms while Connor is axed out

R451 Curls looking lovely again (if short). Not quite sure what they did at PFW.

R546 his natural curls are perfect. They looked great in the sunburn video too

His eyebrow slit looks much smaller than it did in the IOM nipple video. Part of me wonders if the video (and burn) were from after DC Pride and the video wasn't new.

Bash ignoring the casts comments minus Bradley while liking and replying to randos comments is extremely funny

Knowing how Bash been acting up, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kit or Tobie asked Joe how he wants to proceed and his answer would be to act like nothing’s happened and they all took his cue.

I'm glad that Joe and Kit didn't give his little movie a boost by reposting it to their Stories.

At least Connor and Bash are sharing clothes.

DL posters in the wild

R459 Pretty sure Bradley was the first to comment, Bash stopped liking or commenting shortly after that.

R458 Yeah, I think that video was old. Back on my bullshit thinking it was just a reactionary video to Bash acting a fool. Letting Bash know he can't suck those nipples anymore.

R463 Probably just twitter morons lurking

R463 Part of me is experiencing secondhand embarrassment over these comments, but part of me likes that Bash can't feign ignorance over his stupid, passive-aggressive IG antics being noticed.

Rr65 The fans are mostly morons and Bash is giving them bait by the way he's acting. He knows people will read into it and wonder if he has beef with Joe/Kit.

R458 i think the video is old. I also think he originally recorded it for Kit.

R468 I wouldn't be surprised if that's true and they compared sunburns. If the video ended there or not is up to everyone's imaginations.

R463 Lurkers taking information from here and just running with it.

R469 And Kit took a video of his ass cheeks but we can see that, unfortunately.

can'T*

R469 Joe was wearing shorts that day so he panned Down to show his legs. While down there he figured may as well show unburned skin for contrast and kit got to see his perfect ass. No one can prove it didn’t happen!

R460 yeah the timing of basically all the comments coming after joes like was funny to me

I was about to go into defence of the video being new but the xx at the end of the caption makes me think you bitches are actually correct. He sent that to someone (Kit) when he got home from DC Pride. Cheeky little fucker

R463 how many people are fucking lurking here?! I mean Twitter we know but gals from insta? Whole new demographic

I thought it was a joke but looks like they were really sharing clothes. Connor needs to find a guy his age asap.

Do we see Bash showing up at the Pride Parade?

I lurke but I don't leak...

R476 If this was meant to be some sort of retaliation because Joe and Kit shared stuff I will actually die laughing.

Fuck off to all the lurkers. Learn to shut up or leave.

R476 It could be Connor's but since it's from the Harry Styles show I could see him buying Bash his own. Connor's friend Ashley has one too.

Film Updates posted about Billy Walsh and the engagement on those tweets is low as fuck for Film Updates tweets.

Not sure how people don't think he sent it to OF Nick instead of Kit, but I won't ruin your good time. He did just bully Nick with an x at the end of his comment.

Lurkers can lurk, but they relay gotta learn we are just chatting shit here and not to repeat it.

How is Bash's recent post about his show doing engagement wise? Was he able to cross 100k solo?

R484 Barely, it's at 105k.

R483

[quote]Not sure how people don't think he sent it to OF Nick instead of Kit

[quote]we are just chatting shit here

You answered your own question.

R477 honestly that might be why joe liked it. he knows they'll see one another saturday and figures someone needs to be the bigger person. and clearly it's not gonna be bash.

I like Bash but really do hope he isn't there on Saturday. It needs to be a special day for them all, not tainted by awkwardness.

r488 i can like bash in the future if he gets it together but rn he's being really unlikable. so agreed.

R482 The movie is going to come and go. Not sure about Charithra and Tanner, but Bash doesn’t have a fanbase so there aren’t enough fans to give the movie legs by making viral gifs and posts about it on social media.

Hopefully Bash isn't his typical attention whore self that tries to pull focus every 5 seconds if he does end up at Pride.

I’m excited for it but I am also a gay man and not the target demographic. He looks hot with the glasses.

R490 not sure how he was in cobra kai, but tanner was a charisma vacuum in his romcom with addison rae. tbf though he was opposite addison rae.

Romcoms really succeed or fail on their leads chemistry. It's why even when Noah Centineo was the romcom golden boy and got cast in like 5 teen romcoms, none ever did as well as TATBILB - because the charm there was him opposite Lana Condor. We'll see how the onscreen chemistry is for Bash, Charithra, and Tanner.

Tbh I doubt he sent it to Kit - Kit would have seen his sunburn live. But I will defend that narrative because it’s more fun.

Jumping all the way back up to the comments about Joe not losing followers over his nipple - makes me think the big clear out came from the first swimming story and NY trip and that won’t happen again. I note Kit picked up a tonne of followers from fashion week, and I wonder if a few of them are young Briderton fans because of his new mate. Personally hope Bash stops haemorrhaging followers for awhile - he’s been a bit of petty ex but he’s a young queer actor so I’m still rooting for him.

Kit on Loewe’s TikTok.

R486 Touché. Either way I like to think it was an old video he posted anyway after Bash was acting a fool.

R490 Charithra has zero fanbase. The Bridgerton fanbase hates her, for no good reason. Not sure people are gonna watch for Tanner, though Cobra Kai is pretty popular though not sure with a romcom audience. Not expecting the movie to make any kind of waves.

R497 If it hits the right demographic and is charming it could get momentum. I don’t think anyone knew who Noah Cereno was before his movie. I didn’t watch it but it (and he) felt hard to get away from for awhile.

Page dump.

The platform alone is enough reason to think it won't be a thing. Netflix romcoms regularly hit, Prime ones don't.

R499 Alice should get an award for turning Nick into the most insufferable character. Anyway, Bash's engagement on Twitter is terrible too.

I'm looking forward to see it, the Fleabag-style will be interesting.

R498 as i said above though it's all on chemistry. tbh if noah centineo's romcom with that redhead from Stranger Things came out first, he might have flopped more. it's just he and lana had great chemistry.

r499 god they all suck so hard. Joe and Kit are fucking saints for pulling it off

R501 If we’re going to keep it a buck, every character is either entirely one-dimensional or completely insufferable in the comics. It’s why I’m worried about Isaac. If Tobie doesn’t pull off the acting to offset Alice’s writing, that expanded arc is going to be excruciating.

r504 being honest kit and joe act circles around every other non adult on that show (and some adults). jenny and cori are also good but no one else is getting close to those two. which is why im grumpy about the others getting bigger storylines.

465 to be honest while he's not on twt any more joe knows how much fans notice. giving them actual content so they can ignore the subtleties of a minor character being petty is smart

R505 No one believes me but that's what happened with the show Young Royals. The first season was good but the second season had too many sub-plots and unnecessary characters. The ratings dropped significantly. Even the fans stopped talking about the second season pretty quickly.

r507 i believe it. TBH omar was good and so was the chemistry but I think edvin was just so clearly better that it is a little weird to not just lean into the title and the more interesting story of a royal figuring all this out. the other actors aren't as good.

S2 of YR was super boring. I tend to binge everything and it took me several weeks to get through the season. Nothing happened. It felt like the entire season should have been the first episode.

If s2 of HS truly only covers book 3 of the comics, it could have a similar problem.

r509 it's technically only book 3 but i've seen some changes. nick's dad filming with olivia (so the dinner scene) for instance. Hopefully they build out charlie suffering alone instead of him fainting as the first sign of any issues, as in the comics.

I've decided that my DL crack theory of the day is that Joe and Kit interacted with Bash's post because Nick is flying into London for Pride and to have a threesome with them so they've decided to extend Bash some grace ahead of time.

Patrick liked a Kit tweet again. Netflix is late as hell, they're posting the Loewe pictures across their social media today when all of these pictures have gone around already.

R512 Genuinely do not care what Patrick likes on Twitter.

R512 Surprised he hasn’t liked any of the Bash stuff.

Is it just me or is Ami kind of terrible at the press thing? Their social media didn’t really take advantage of the celebrities that went. I didn’t even see much of Halle Bailey.

R511 if joe brings OF Nick to pride i will die laughing and nothing will ever be able to make me unstan him

r516 then again, at least he'd have a man who interacts with him in public and is actually proud to be with him at pride, so

R517 I was looking at some of the videos from last year earlier and if you showed them to me with no other context and asked me who was dating Joe I would have answered with Tobie or Kit before Bash.

R518 yep. I would have also observed that it looked like Bash had a massive crush on Kit FWIW

Look at you all freaks burning with jealousy because bash's movie looks sooooo good and fun and the little first look made such a big splash on Insta. Already almost 200k likes in 5 hours. Wooo hoo.

520 LOL

I hope Kit takes his camera to Pride. Also curious as to what kind of shirt he’ll wear. Same with Joe.

R520 There are accounts dedicated to mangy cats that get more likes than that.

R520 I like Bash but please stop. Just ignore or block the posters that bother you.

r522 i think joe will go political again, though i wish they'd both go slutty. I think this one will be more explicitly HS promo so sadly both family friendly looks i think. Hopefully both tight and joe back in shorts, thanks. Kit, pick him up again.

r524 at this point i think they might be a smart bash anti

R522 Hopefully both in tight clothes. If they're feeling generous, they should wear tank tops.

Whatever message Joe chooses to wear I really hope it’s as tight as the DC shirt and that guy doesn’t wear sunscreen again… I could do with shirtless an update on his burn

R517 I think some of you overestimate how open Joe would be in a space with so many cameras. You won't see him all over his actual boyfriend.

R432 I mean, it took Joe like a week to find new big dick (that was attached to someone who is actually out and seems to have vaguely intelligent thoughts occasionally).

IG updates. Joe didn't bleed followers after the nipple video. For those who care about Bash, he's lost 16,950 in the last 30 days.

R436 OF Nick is much more political than Bash, which is right up Joe's alley.

I'm glad that Joe and Kit didn't give his little movie a boost by reposting it to their Stories.

R463 Part of me is experiencing secondhand embarrassment over these comments, but part of me likes that Bash can't feign ignorance over his stupid, passive-aggressive IG antics being noticed.

Heartstopper Film Updates posted about Billy Walsh and the engagement on those tweets is low as fuck for Film Updates tweets.

Heartstopper R484 Barely, it's at 105k.

[quote]Not sure how people don't think he sent it to OF Nick instead of Kit

[quote]we are just chatting shit here

You answered your own question.

Hopefully Bash isn't his typical attention whore self that tries to pull focus every 5 seconds if he does end up at Pride.

The platform alone is enough reason to think it won't be a thing. Netflix romcoms regularly hit, Prime ones don't.

I've decided that my DL crack theory of the day is that Joe and Kit interacted with Bash's post because Nick is flying into London for Pride and to have a threesome with them so they've decided to extend Bash some grace ahead of time.

R517 I was looking at some of the videos from last year earlier and if you showed them to me with no other context and asked me who was dating Joe I would have answered with Tobie or Kit before Bash.

R520 There are accounts dedicated to mangy cats that get more likes than that.

He's absolutely free to take a vacation, but it's also true that as far as any of us know he has no obligations to return to. No new projects announced yet and people with 5 minutes of screentime aren't usually needed for Heartstopper press.

R16 My bad. Let me rephrase. People with 7 minutes of screentime aren't usually needed for Heartstopper press.

R17 He'll definitely be one of those things

To the nutjob whose 90%posts are about who awful a person Bash is and how his movie will flop, you are giving me Misery vibes. Seek help.

I've always been open about being an asshole and thinking Bash is exceedingly mediocre, you're not doing what you think you're doing here. And I'll continue going after you and your try-hard "Joe cheated" delusions, so cry about it.

R530 LOL this actually made me laugh

R531 Did you leave the “off off off off off West End” comment? Because if you did, I’m going to need you to stick around.

R533 Yep, that was me. Kind of sad that they missed one of my greatest hits in their little roundup, but it's hilarious to me that they're paying Muriel to cry about DL being DL so I'll allow it.

R530 YMMV but cutting pasting the DL history of someone doesn’t seem super stable. But good for you figuring out how to do it - growth. While we go each other and there are some known thread personalities (I guess), this thread is not actually about us and you continued ranting about us, at us, is weird as fuck. Also, you skirt very close to homophobia a lot. Most importantly, you know Bash is rich and hot right? He doesn’t need you to defend him against some bitchy gays - he will never fuck you.

Anyway, here are some of R530's comments, for fairness:

[quote]Joe cheated. Got caught, freaked out and manipulated as if it was bash's fault for his cheating and now non stop posting shirtless pictures to lure bash back. Whereas bash has decided he needs to move on from this cheating asshole. And if you dont believe the cheating theory, thats fine. That wont change facts.

[quote]And if you dont believe the cheating theory, why dont you just dm of nick on twitter. But you wont. Because in your heart, you know cheated and you are afraid to find out the truth.

[quote]Like i said, thats the only thing that explains everything. Which is why you are trying so hard to malign bash, so you can protect joe. But anyone with half a brain can see it, plain and clear.

[quote]not to mention, you are asking me to believe that immediately after joe went back to atlanta after break up, he immediately started looking for hook ups and jumped into bed with nick the first oppportunity, and even hopped around town in NYC while Nick was also visiting within few weeks of knowing each other. Yeahhhh, seems like quite a stretch for a guy who is socially shy.

[quote]Joe is so famous that he could not even get seated by the Netflix gays.

[quote]Joe is so secure that he is now hiding his Insta likes. And you are telling me Bash is the insecure one in the relationship? Sure, Jan.

[quote]Joe is allowed to follow and post only fan nick only to hurt bash in the middle of his crazy play schedule risking hurting his play and entire career, but bash is not allowed to hang out with connor/friends or do whatever he wants with his insta. You guys are pitiful jerks, just like joe, who has no respect for bash or his career and thinks the entire world must turn around him. Overall, just sad.

[quote]You guys are the very representation of joe. He will fall hard and fast because he thinks the world revolves around him. Just watch. And he is just a marvel tv show lead that has not come out yet. Pipe down and pray to god that of nick is not too broke to leak his nudes because if he does, joe is pretty much done.

R536 God the medicine that mind needs.

Can’t you two just kiss and get it over with? The sexual tension is palpable..

R538 appreciate you. That was excellent

Kit should one up Joe’s nipple vid by going topless for pride.

R540 true. joe can then up the ante by stripping down to microshorts

R541 Well now I need to see that.

If Bash goes to Pride, I need him to stay with Rhea or Connor and they can do their own thing. No one wants his petty ass around.

Why is Connor's unemployed ass even part of something that is supposed to be just the Heartstopper cast? Going to need them to go alone or separately if they are thinking of attending.

Connor has headed back home. Tbh, I kind of see Bash going and he and Joe being fine, at least publicly. I would have thought there was no chance, but Joe liking his movie makes me think they’ve talked and are on civil terms for the moment

Connor's ig story said he was going back to canada. wouldn't be surprised if bash was in cannes and his also unemployed sister head to join him.

r545 tbh i dont get how joe being mature and above it, as he has been throughout the breakup, means they've talked. maybe, but just as likely bash is still being a brat and joe is just way too nice.

I think Bash will make an appearance because it’s good for his brand. And Joe knows him too well and expects nothing less.

R545 Witnessing Bash's childish antics up until a day ago, really doubt that they have talked. Joe liking his post was just him being mature.

R546 I really don't see it either. Bash hasn't changed the way he's been using social media. He's just more active. He hasn't liked or commented on anything that has to do with Joe/Kit or the show.

R545 I think Joe knows Bash might show up on Saturday and is trying to be amicable in advance. He's doing more than he should and he's being extremely gracious.

Has Bash interacted with any of the other cast members' comments under his post other than Bradley's? Or has he atleast liked those comments?

R546 look it doesn’t mean they’ve talked and I’m about to indulge in some full projection here, but there is that weird thing that you do during break ups where even in the middle of bitching like crazy and being arseholes you still message to be conciliatory and celebrate their wins. In this case something like ‘congratulations, I see the movie is coming out. That’s great!’. When you’ve been together for ages it’s really hard to stop caring, even if someone is being cunty. Full projection here fellas, so be kind

R546 This picture of Bash was posted an hour ago, no clue if it’s London or not (kind of assuming it is), but maybe one of you knows for sure.

I'm hoping Netflix steps it up in general and has some sort of official float. Ideally Joe/Kit/Will/Yaz/Kizzy/Cori/Tobie would be on it. Stick to the core characters.

R553 looks like London to me.

R554 honestly i thought them walking was cute. Would be fine with just the core four.

R554 I think a float for sure - and finally the Will/Kit dynamic will be on display and we can stop speculating if he’s as physically comfortable as with Joe. my view is yes and flirtier and it will make me, a too invested in my Kit/Joe fucking fantasy man, weirdly sad. I look forward to the person who insists that Kit and Will are closer/just as close crowing (I don’t but they are extremely insistent so I’m braced for it)

R549 he only liked this a few days ago

R556 I’d be genuinely surprised if he was closer to Will than Joe physically. I think there’s a chance they’re equally as close, but Will isn’t the one Kit makes out with for work. That alone does a lot for physical closeness.

Not being rude to those who disagree but I think litigating the closeness like this doesn't make a ton of sense. Joe was clearly technically closer to Bash for obvious reasons for a long time, and I do think Kit and Will are very close. But without any hate to the other two, they have no clue what it's like to be Kit and Joe. Their lives have changed in an indescribable way since s1 and as they've alluded to, only one another understands it. Even things like "breaking up" (yes I think Kit and Maia were casual) in the public eye and all that entails, the rise to fame, the hate - they're the only two who fully understand it. I think the fact they make out for work helps the physical touchiness for sure, but I do legitimately think Kit and Joe will always be very fond of one another and friends for having weathered one of the craziest expereinces ever together. and as others noted, doing so without a speck of jealousy and true happiness for one another.

Lucy's in London with Joe.

r560 cute. their friendship is really sweet. Weirdly this makes me think that Bash will be there saturday and joe wants a buffer who isn't a mutual

The date on the picture is Sunday, I wonder if he just didn’t go back to the IOM at all and was in London when he posted the video.

It's an event to promote the show. I assume Kit and Joe won't be further than a foot apart at most times. I'd be surprised if Joe isn't carried again.

R561 I don't see Bash passing it up. I'm starting to think he's the one who can't take social cues and read the room despite his comment otherwise

Hoping Joe brought Sam Roe to London as well if he's brought his friends to act as a buffer.

R557 was confused as to why Kit was buried in that post then realised the first guy was a k-pop star.

R560 that’s nice. Seems like she’s rallied around him. Sometimes, you need your gals as well as your gays. Break ups are one of those times

R565 The first guy is the new global ambassador for Loewe, they’re hyping him up everywhere.

R565 Maybe she's helping him move. It's sweet that he stays close to his friends from home. He has a core group and that has more value than having 20+ casual friends.

R560 Its so cute seeing him wear the Marvel hat. He wore that Disney one like crazy when he was cast.

Joe seems to be in Soho every time someone sees him lately in London. Wonder if he's renting/staying there

r569 isn't he in covent garden with lucy?

Not sure that’s the Marvel hat. I thought it had a bunch of icons at the back.

R571 It may be a different one. Im pretty certain that the Marvel Studios logo on the back.

R571 It's a Marvel cap, this is what's on the back.

R570 The general location is around there. Wouldn't be surprised if he's got a place in the area.

R569 I guess we’ll find out when he pops up on the apps (fingers crossed). That chest became 100% more recognisable

i'm now going to presume every time bash does something petty to joe it's because he came across ass and hole pics of him on his phone and felt enraged he wouldn't get to be with that anymore.

I’m primarily a Joe fan because twink but, against type, find Kit really hot as well. On those grounds, I will be shattered (mildly put out) if Kit doesn’t wear a singlet for Pride. What is the point of those arms if not to show them off

R577 Some of his tank top choices do not flatter his physique. Joe needs to help him pick one.

R578 the one from Milan after party made me want to latch onto his biceps with my teeth. It’s was extremely gay

R577 agreed. for me, for having very different body types, the clothing Joe and kit would look hottest in is similar. Low cut or sheer to show off their chests, tight shorts to show off great legs and perfect asses. Who could want anything more

R579 Something tells me we're not getting something as overtly gay and revealing as the Milan afterparty look that JWA styled for him or the even self-styled DC Pride outfit. Although if someone had told me a year ago that we'd see anything as gloriously camp as Kit in a vintage t-shirt with male strippers on it that he appears to have cropped himself, I would have laughed in your face. I guess anything is possible. Let us pray...

R581 cropped vintage women’s nightshirt, no less. Guy is 62% more homosexual this year (couldn’t help myself…)

I’m guessing Kit will go with a vague pride tshirt and jeans, and joe with a semi political tshirt and jeans because they’re trying to be family friendly. That said if joe wants to be political I wish he’d wear this. Definitely only related to the political message and not because I want to see his perfect flat stomach and slutty waist in a crop top

Joe's Instagram story.

Sorry to be a dick but the difference in the way Joe and bash for advocacy is so funny to me. Joe: “pride is a protest”, reclaiming faggot, calling out specific laws to lobby for political change. Bash: emojis. (Yes the dinosaur T-shirt was cute and all)

I think it was less about the shirt being cute but the sales of it raising over £150K for LGBT refugees fleeing persecution. I’ve seen people wear them in the most random places.

R586 I’m not saying the shirt didn’t do good. I’m simply looking at how relatively cutesy/PG his advocacy is (which isn’t a bad thing necessarily, it does appeal to younger audiences which is good) versus Joe’s being more adult and political

Also not to downplay it, though I know that’s what it sounds like I’m doing lol, but he partnered with an org that does this with a thousand different celebrities and had a graphic designer actually made it. He promoted the shit our of the shirt though I’ll give him that, as did Joe and kit

I get your point. In general I just enjoy Joe's IG stories more too. And not only because he's showing his us his nipples lately.

R589 yeah joes stories have been legit great recently. Obviously everyone has their favorites and I’m glad both of them seem to be having a fun summer but bashs super rich kid life with his friends, who seem obnoxious, just… isn’t that interesting to me.

Well that’s mainly the point of Choose Love’s collaborations so they raise more money. My husband is wearing his shirt right now funnily enough.

I’m not here to fight about bash’s T-shirt, I’m pointing out the difference between his and joes. It was nice of Joe and Kit with more followers to promote it so he could raise money though.

Anyway, Joe followed the producer he tagged for the play a few weeks back. Wonder if they met or he got an invite to the play and that instigated the follow

I wouldn’t wear that tee because it’s not my style but I bought it because Kit wore it and it sorta became unofficial HS merch.

R593 yeah I thought it was cute that joes loyal ass wore it on national tv and that kit wore it to pride and the GQ interview. But it was a little juvenile for me to be able to wear around frequently, which makes sense given the age target of HS. If I could dress casually for work maybe would’ve bought it

Bash being a douchebage to service workers is the least surprising thing I'll probably learn about this week.

R595 Oh god, wtf. “Heartstopper star” treats service staff like crap. Please don’t let this spread.

R595 Bash haters who already hate him about to use this and run with it. There's never a day of peace for Bash.

Why not? it's not like it will reflect on Joe and Kit. Spread it far and wide.

And the pics of him and the rest of the people in the movie all out to dinner always gave me douchey vibes so not surprised. I think Bash is just too used to getting everything he wants in life. Typical spoiled rich boy.

New thread, keep it somewhat normal and stop fighting please.

R598 You are truly poisonous.