Rolling Stone shows no mercy to Kevin Spacey

The world is actually getting by quite well without Kevin Spacey.

I'd love to see Spacey return. I don't doubt he is a son of a bitch but I hate seeing people convicted by media lynch mobs before the trial.

Guilty of being gay.

Spacey was railroaded. Total bullshit.

And still Woody Allen...

I'd honestly welcome his return if he's cleared. Well, found not guilty; "cleared" might be too much since no one can really be cleared in the court of public opinion.

He'd make a great famous priest or pope in a biopic!

We don't need him!

Great actor. Worse people still have a career.

He is unnecessary.

I would like to see him play Mame.

As far as I'm concerned, he never datedfucked a minor. What's the big deal?

I don’t give a shit about an entertainer’s personal life, if they’re not murdering anyone or raping babies. Spacey likes teen guy taint, not my problem. If he’s not criminally convicted, why must we have to be the grand moral judgement squadron now? What prompted this 21st century holier than thou attitude towards people who we don’t personally know?

Honestly, did anyone even notice he's been gone?

R13 Agreed, but the same can be true on the 'other side' of this - no one has to hire him, either if he seems like a liability.

He sure was R4, and if he's persona non grata, then fucking Ezra Miller should be too. This is some bullshit.

R12

[quote] what’s the big deal?

He’s a sex pest - a groper… a creep

R13, so you support rapists? Good to know.

R16, Ezra Miller isn't facing over 10 counts of sexual abuse in court.

Two wrongs don't make a right - just because some people have gotten away with sexual abuse doesn't mean everyone should

Thanks r3, for equating gayness with sexual molestation and pedophilia. That’s exactly what we need right now.

Who did Kevin rape?

The only thing less relevant than Kevin Spacey is Rolling Stone. If it weren't for the periodic mentions of some absurd bullshit they've printed somewhere, nobody would even know they existed.

R4 must be a datalounge newbie. We've been sharing the truth about Kevin's sexual predations since the 90s

R21 gets all his news from Newsmax

R20, have you been following this case? He is facing charges for abusing 4 different men in Britain

You're welcome, r19. 😒

[quote]Thanks [R3], for equating gayness with sexual molestation and pedophilia. That’s exactly what we need right now.

Oh, sorry! I wasn't aware that he had sex with any child! You do understand the meaning of pedophilia, right?

Spacey has always been bad news. Ask anyone who has been posting here. Look up some old threads, DL had the scoop on him harassing guys on the House of Cards set long before the mainstream media did

Next, r19 calls me a pedophile.

[quote]Three months ago, he pleaded not guilty in London to charges that he sexually assaulted three men between 2004 and 2015 when he was the artistic director at the Old Vic theater in London.

[quote]A judge in Los Angeles this summer approved an arbitrator's decision to order Spacey to pay $30.9 million to the makers of "House of Cards" for violating his contract by sexually harassing crew members.

Even if the Anthony Rapp story and also the allegations of the young man who said Spacey groped him in a bar in Cape Cod were complete bullshit, the allegations mentioned above, along with some others, seem very credible and are deeply disturbing.

[QUOTE]this 21st century holier than thou attitude towards people who we don’t personally know?

I didn't realize sanctimony is such a newfangled thing. 🤔

[quote]Three months ago, he pleaded not guilty in London to charges that he sexually assaulted three men between 2004 and 2015 when he was the artistic director at the Old Vic theater in London.

Ok, can't defend him, but, where's the pedophilia?

Not all of us are claiming there was any pedophilia, R31.

I'm aware of that, r32, my reply was to r19.

I don't think R3 was equating him with being a pedophile, he was saying he's found guilty because he's gay. A straight dude wouldn't be crucified like this.

Are there any guys Kevin hasn't groped? Even white rappers aren't safe from him

Thanks, r34!

That!

[quote]r31 I don’t give a shit about an entertainer’s personal life

What are you doing on a gossip site?

I like gossip but not as anything serious. R37. There’s no fun in gossip anymore, it’s just about getting people “cancelled” now.

R38 thinks it's wrong to cancel people accused of serious offenses in court (but probably wants to cancel Budweiser like most of the GOP hypocrites who whine about cancel culture)

R34, tell that to Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby, etc.

Yes, straight guys do get canceled for being sexual predators.

Funny how some people here say that Spacey is being targeted for being gay when the only reason they keep bringing up Ezra Miller is because he's non-binary.

There are around 30 accusations against the man, how many more does there need to be before people accept that he’s a grubby sex abuser?

R41 nails it

"Groping has been around since forever, if it offends you tell the person Directly. If they stop fine if they don't only then would be an offence.

R40 Ezra isn't non binary, that's not even a real thing. He uses that to get special treatment, and it seems to work so good for him, I guess.

R44, your fellow conservatives think being gay isn't a real thing and that if you want you can marry a woman.

Non-binary people don't get special treatment, look at how much right-wingers like you hate them

Kevin Spacey?

Spacey isn't a pedo because he's gay.

He's a pedo because he's a pedo.

[quote]Spacey isn't a pedo because he's gay.

[quote]He's a pedo because he's a pedo.

I guess you have proof that he fucked a minor.

Rolling Stone is a joke.

You're an imbecile because you're an imbecile ,r47.

R50 is an fangirl in denial

You are a deranged frau, r51.

Post any proof that he fucked anyone underage.

[quote][R50] is an fangirl in denial

Hardly. Truth is truth.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Made advances to a 16-year-old named Justin Dawes

Tried to rape a 14-year-old boy

R56, that’s from 2017.

[quote]I guess you have proof that he fucked a minor.

Pedophilia would only apply if he fucked a PRE-PUBESCENT minor. The age consent varies from one jurisdiction to another.

R57, and your point is?

R58, in New York the age of consent is not 14. He was accused of abusing a 14-year-old in NYC

[r60] That still doesn't make a pedophile.

And guess what ? Armie Hammer's not a cannibal! But WTF, the damage has been done and no one cares.

Gurl that's a rough looking 63. !!!! Any plans to come back should include a deep plane facelift with some laser resurfacing!

I do feel however he abused his power and position.

The Sun, R56? Ok, that settles it!

He's fucking SAINT.

[quote]I guess you have proof that he fucked a minor.

I guess you have proof he didn't.

Or you're just one of the seemingly endless pedo apologists posting here.

At any rate, definitely worth a block.

Spacey likes to grope TEEN boys — 14 and up — so he’s not exactly a pedophile, but there’s another name for it which I can’t remember. Richard Dreyfuss’s son was 18 when he had his encounter with Spacey.

R64, they're just listing allegations that were reported elsewhere. Try again.

R62, Hammer isn't facing a criminal trial. Spacey is.

I want Arnie Hammer to face a criminal trial.

Cannibalism is WRONG.

[quote] and your point is?

Did anything happen with that claim? Was Spacey found guilty?

[quote] Cannibalism is WRONG.

Who did he eat? We’ll wait.

R71, perhaps you need to look into the statute of limitations, some claims CAN'T be prosecuted

Kevin loves hitting on teen boys

When Kevin assaulted a teen bellhop

[quote]Spacey likes to grope TEEN boys — 14 and up — so he’s not exactly a pedophile, but there’s another name for it which I can’t remember. Richard Dreyfuss’s son was 18 when he had his encounter with Spacey.

The word is ephebophile.

Hi Kevin!

Your career is fucking over!

Deal with it!

Way back when he played Mel Profitt on Wiseguy, I thought to myself that he was an extraordinary actor.

He clearly has a deep well of vileness from which to draw for his excellent performances.

Where is Dianne in all of this? She should be front and center, standing by her man.

[quote] Honestly, did anyone even notice he's been gone?

Everybody who tuned in to that godawful final season of House of Cards and endured Robin Wright failing to carry the show.

I wonder what happened to "Dianne" - I heard she had a REAL boyfriend who she married shortly after Kevin declared his love for her

If you look at her IMDb page, she’s been an associate producer on films like “Julie & Julia.” Of course, that title can mean anything.

She was a script supervisor for years. She held that job on “Glengarry Glen Ross” (1992) which is where I presume she met Spacey.

Oh, fer christsakes. Honestly don’t know his many sins. But I’ve loved him in everything I’ve ever seen him in. Is he just a sex pest or has he done anything g really wrong? I say let’s get him back into the show biz.

If you "don't know his many sins" then I suggest googling because it's all out there. But I guess he should get a free pass because he's a good actor!

R83 - it really doesn’t mean he’s a pedophile; he’s an ephebophile if anything…. but imagine if you were a younger guy he was attracted to on one of his productions, or working at the Old Vic while he was artistic director and he had the power to keep you on or fire you depending on how you responded to his advances. Do you see the problem now?

So many guys have come out to complain about his behaviour. Who cares how fucking good an actor he is if he’s a fucking sex pest who could get you fired if you’re

^^ fuck me - I trailed off in mid-sentence amd then accidentally WWd my own fucking post! Apologies, but I stand by what I said! Imagine reporting your highly-regarded boss who somehow became artistic director of othe Old Vic, for being a fucking creep… so many people have reported so much over decades - I think it might mean he’s a creep who preys on people who would have trouble saying no due to their employment situations…

R72 Oh dear, whom did he eat.

I don't think he was an actual pedophile. I DO think he was clearly an ongoing freaking gross sex pest, nasty groper, etc. It's not like "Oh, this one time he was drunk at a party and was creepy to a young teen." This happened many, many times over the years.

Here's a new fluff piece, an interview. (English version)

[quote] Spacey says that he didn’t used to have time for people who wanted a selfie with him or an autograph. Today, though, he says: "I draw my resilience from encounters like that."...

[quote]Imagine if you were a younger guy he was attracted to on one of his productions, or working at the Old Vic while he was artistic director and he had the power to keep you on or fire you depending on how you responded to his advances. Do you see the problem now?

Thank you for explaining the situation so clearly and succinctly. Although many people would say it's gross behavior, there's nothing legally wrong with an older man aggressively trying to seduce a much younger man WHO IS STILL A LEGAL ADULT if those two men have no connection to each other. But if the older man is the younger man's boss, or of the two are working together on a project and the older man if far more powerful, rich and famous, there's an obvious, huge problem there.

Some folks on the Phil Schofield threads don't seem to think it's a problem, r90.

I Midjourney’d him as Mame.

It is the role he was born to play.

I consider him to be in the same lane as Singer and Murphy. His was the first balloon to pop, probably having to do with the money the other two generate vs. Spacey. When they all started in the industry, this behavior was totally ignored, but the times have changed and these men have not.

Mame

Mame

Mame

What's the point of all the Mame spam ?

It’s FUN!

For years Spacey pushed for a MAME revival in which he “opened the world up for” the young Patrick character.

It was ultimately deemed too depraved.

Ah yes a hybrid “Mame”/“Hello Dolly” in which Mame schemes to marry Patrick off to herself.

As Dolly

Kevin is Auntie Lame

R85, the overwhelming majority of the people who accused him were not teens. They were fully grown adults.

Anthony Rapp should have gotten the Amber Heard treatment. Imagine being caught in lie after lie and then losing your lawsuit amd then still talking about believing victims with a shit eating grin on your face. Dude is as fully on the inside as he is oh the outside.

Spacey has never been accused of putting his dick in people without consent. The comparisons to Cosby or Weinsteim are not correct.

*fugly

He's a great actor, but he was coasting for years before he was exposed, so I haven't really missed him.

He's also a predatory closet case who only sorta came out (remember in his "coming out" statement, he was sure to mention that he also had relationships with women?) because he was accused of assault, so fuck him.

R105, He came out because lying liar Anthony Rapp was calling him a pathetic closet case n the buzzfeed news article where he falsefully accused him.

He is a disgusting predator. Stories about him were rampant way before me too.

He can be the biggest douche in the world. As long as he didn't touch anyone underage, I'm fine with him.

Love his movies.

Systematic takedown of many powerful gay celebrities under the fascist Trump regime - fuck you all!

Fuck Spacey, and fuck the cultists of personality who defend him. Trash.

Every story about Kevin Spacey being a perv sex pest is true.

R110, except for Anthony Rapps and the kid from Boston.

R103 is an idiot. Rapp was the first to come forward publicly. A bunch of other men followed. Are you saying he lied but Spacey just coincidentally turned out to be a predator, anyway? That's dumb. He knew Spacey was a predator because Spacey attacked him.

R111, a jury decided that OJ Simpson was not guilty....here's a hint, the jury doesn't always get it right.

R103, he attempted to rape a 14-year-old. Weinstein was accused of attacking kids that young. Spacey is worse.

Spacey is/was a horrid man

R112, he was caught in lie after lie. He literally is claiming Spacey assaulted him in the same way his character was by Ed Harris im thehow he was in each night.

Lying liar was lying.

R106 except for the word “falsely,” you were accurate.

R112, there was no avalanche of 14 year Olds that were molested by Spacey that came forward.

For the most part it was adult men that Spacey made unwanted advances on.

The last season of House of cards was good without him. And I’m sure the crew was happy him not being there, and he really started doing shitty movies. Nine lives? Piece of crap. Good for Rolling Stone.

Sorry to the creepers in this thread but if a straight male movie star was exposed for sexually assaulting 14 year old girls he would, in fact, be cancelled.

This is not “homophobia”. Spacey is a predator, always has been, and we don’t need a comeback from him.

R119, tell that to Dustin Hoffman and Richard Dreyfuss.

I wonder if he misses his buddy Jeffrey Epstein?

Don’t we have enough cranky ass old actors? Do we really need another one?

R119, Ezra Miller begs to differ!! P

R120 Like Spacey, they've both been relegated to low-budget dreck.

R123 I hope The Flash bombs so that Warner Brothers stops protecting him and everything comes out, because I get the feeling that what's been revealed is just the tip of the iceberg.

R124, the point is they weren't canceled so your earlier post is bullshit,

R123, Miller wasn't accused by like 50 different people like Spacey was

R127, Putting his hand on a grown man's leg are the majority of the allegations. All the underage stuff is alleged to have happened over 40 years ago. Get over it.

R128, nope, that's not true. And hitting on tweets doesn't magically become okay because you did it in the 80s. Stop being a delusional fangirl. You sound as crazy as the Michael Jackson fans

R115 “He literally”

You’ve lost all credibility.

R129, Rapp couldn't even give an accurate description of the place this alleged traumatic event happened. Spacey lived in a small studio apartment and Rapp didn't even know that.

Bitch was lying, deal with itl

R131 What does your therapist think about this?

R127 I like, agree with you, but like. Like.

Rapp lost his case despite the court of public opinion already convicting Spacey.

The me too movement is just another of many salem witch trials that the media just luvvv to start.

Hey, at least Kevin never molested his dog.

R135 probably said the same thing about Harvey Weinstein, who was convicted.

"The media" didn't originate the abuse that Spacey committed. At the Datalounge we've been talking about Spacey being an abuser since the 90s.

You are as delusional as Michael Jackson fans

Rapp wasn't Spacey's only accuser.

Anthony Rapp is not lying. Nor are the dozens of other accusers.

Netflix had $100s of millions invested in HOUSE OF CARDS. You don’t fire the star of a show like that unless the lawyers investigate and say you have to.

E137 Datalounge was the first place I read them. Back in the 90s.

If nothing else, I believe Rapp is telling the truth because of the much-reported phenomenon of some victims of abuse who become abusers. Let's just say an NYU student friend of mine who was much younger than him, albeit not past any lines of legality that I know of, has an unsolicited wank vid from Tonio himself. (No word on length, girth, or distinguishing characteristics.) I would wager she's not the only one.

Never happened, but the pro-Spacey trolls love to make up stuff about Anthony Rapp

R139, He was fired in the middle of the night only 2 hours after Rapps allegation came out. those lawyers must have done a very fast investigation.

^ They knew about all the other allegations that would be coming out

R144, maybe. Or maybe rapps allegation was so heinous and netflix could see that the public was unquestionably believing it and they had no other choice but to let him go.

R145, Hollywood insiders knew there were a bunch of other guys out there with "Kevin Spacey stories"

If WE knew, they knew

Spacey had to pay millions to Netflix because of his behavior

R147, Haha. Rapp must have been punching the air.

R143 it was more than 2 hours, but investigating was really as simple as interviewing the crew and asking them has Spacey ever assaulted you. And he had.

He’d also been known to yell racial slurs on set but that’s another story. Gave them another solid reason to fire him though.

R149, He was fired days before they held the meeting with crew.

"He’d also been known to yell racial slurs on set but that’s another story. Gave them another solid reason to fire him though"

That was a bogus lawsuit and those claimed weren't backed up by anyone else who worked on the set.

Everyone knew how bad his behavior on the set if House of Cards was. We even had insiders posting about it here

It wasn’t the Rapp accusation which hurt him the most , it was the story by the anonymous accuser who met Spacey at theater camp at age 12 and began having a sexual relationship at 14 which hurt him the most.

If you haven’t read the article, it’s astonishingly well-told and devastating. The victim is intelligent and extremely literate.

I'm not a fan of Kevin, but I also don't give a shit about Rolling Stone. It should've ended 15 years ago, at least.

Gay people thought spacey was a coward for being in the closet. Thats was why so many stories went around srome true and some not.. Today nobody gives a shit about who's in the closet and who's not.

I still don't think most of the allegations against him were particularly abhorrent. People don't want to differentiate gay advances from pedophilia. It is whay it is.

R150 I don’t recall it that way but not trying to argue with you. The point is there are numerous accusers with credible stories spanning decades on at least two different continents and this is not a witch hunt conspiracy where dozens of guys who did not know each other suddenly decided to lie about Spacey for no reason. It is his true pattern of behavior.

R154, the idea that people made up stories about him because he was in the closet is absurd. There are plenty of closet cases who aren't rumored to be sexual predators.

If you want to know the truth about Kevin ask some people from the Old Vic

[quote]R120 Like Spacey, they've both been relegated to low-budget dreck.

Hoffman and Dreyfuss are both elderly men whose careers peaked many years ago. What sort of roles would you expect them to be offered now?

DL has always known about Kev.

Here's a thread from 2011 and a sample of some of the posts:

Spacey is a predator. He likes young-ish men. He accosted an actor in a men's room. He uses roofies. I have heard from 3 actors that he is creepy and predatory from their personal experience. He drugs his prey.

From the thread at r158:

Back in the late 90s a straight male friend of mine thats a film maker met him at some industry event in NYC. He got talking to him, thought he was really cool and all. They left the party and hit some bars and got amazingly drunk. My friend thought it would be easier if they crashed at his family's place nearby rather go back home. He woke up in the middle of the night to a terrible ruckus. Seems his new "friend" sneaked into the bedroom of his 14 year old brother and was trying to remove his pants. Little bro woke up and clocked him right the face. Spacey ran out of the place. Prior to all this, when the two were drinking, he learned that Spacey was due to attend another event the next night that my friend was also invited to. Spacey was a no show the next night.

Another:

A friend who was 19 at the time, but looked maybe 15-16 worked on one of his films as gofer. Said that Spacey noticed him , kinda out of nowhere. Spacey started a conversation with him, seemed pretty cool, talking about movies and theatre stuff acting like the older guy just being cool to the young guy. Kept wanting to take him out for dinner, or have dinner in his trailer. One afternoon he had my friend to his trailer and once the door was closed he was all over my friend. He wanted him to drink some special drink KS wanted to make for him. When my friend tried to get away from him he got really mean and abusive. My friend was afraid that he might actually turn violent. Then when that didn't work he (KS) started to offer him money and drugs. My friend finally got close enough to the door to get out. The next day there some movie big wigs trying to smooth the whole thing over. My friend was really ok about it, said it's no big deal, these things happen. Thought it was all good, but an hour later he was fired and escorted of the set by huge security guys twice the size of my friends. Ruined his desire to ever work in film. Tho, about a week later he got his final paycheck, and a termination *bonus* a $10,000 bonus.

My favorite Kevin Spacey sexual harassment story is the one where he yelled at his straight victim that the victim actually DID want to have sex with him he was a coward!

[quote] "[Spacey] came out after me and literally stood between me and the door," he said. "This man was screaming in my face outside of the main bar area, red-faced, spit flying out of his mouth, screaming at me with fury because I didn't want to fuck him. He was actually saying that I did want to and I was a coward. That was his tactic. It was unbelievable."

^ That's our Kev!

Epstein, Bill Clinton, and Kevin Spacey traveling the world. The Three Musketeers

R156 is right. We gossip about famous closet cases ALL THE TIME on here and only a couple of others have predator reputations.

R161 I'm gonna try that on a straight guy I have a crush on and see if it works!

R158 A Stephen Fry mention in there. He's another celeb I first found out was a creep on DL.

Kevin Spacey was completely railroaded, his downfall started with the bogus claim by Heather Unruh posted on Twitter. When she and her son filed the official report at Nantucket police office they submitted screenshots of Snapchat where the boy was crying for help to his girlfriend, but the girl completely denied the story, she said he just texted her he was having fun with a celebrity paying drinks for him. It was enough for dropping the case, but the case reached the pre trial where it definitely collapsed under the embarrassing statements of Unruh and her son. Meanwhile a lot of people came forward, the most famous is Anthony Rapp, another far fetched story falling apart in a court of law. With Rapp there was another man nicknamed C.D. he never deposed and he was never crossed examined by the defense because he run away when the Judge ruled he was not allowed at staying anonymous for the trial. Imagine how convincing was his story, because on a trial someone has to answer with his own words, not with the skillful phrasing of a journalist. These are the cases who reached the court of law, and crashed, imagine how consistent are the one who were simply posted on line. Then there was the arbitration, Netflix had no part on it, the MCR did it, and it was the easiest way for having back the cash they lost for paying cast and crew during the long pause because they had to re-write the script, and the show lost popularity. Not a cent for the so called “victims”, and, btw, the last season of HOC was unwatchable without Spacey. Now another trial is going to start, it seems serious, but Spacey seems very confident too. Maybe one of the accusers, all anonymous according with the UK law, is the journalist who said Spacey harassed him in a posh private London club and started to screaming in his face…in a club where people are barely allowed at coughing…btw believe the victims, because they gain nothing at coming forward, that’s true, because before the metoo gaining cash with a NDA was quite easy and as far as I know Spacey never signed one.

Thanks for the warning there Kev. We'll all be shaking in our shoes.

[quote]He can be the biggest douche in the world. As long as he didn't touch anyone underage, I'm fine with him.

So, let's say there was a hypothetical situation (also a real-life situation) where a VERY famous actor was also the artistic director of a highly respected theater company, let's say in England, that person sexually harassed many far younger, unknown actors and other young men whom he was working with over the course of his career. Are you really "fine" with that?

“YOU DO! YOU DO WANT TO FUCK ME! BUT YOU’RE A COWARD!”

This will never not be funny.

He had to undergo mandatory training discouraging sexual harassment in the workplace, things got so bad.

[quote]Kevin Spacey made the set of Netflix's "House of Cards" into a "toxic" work environment through a pattern of sexual harassment, eight people who currently work on the show or worked on it in the past tell CNN. One former employee told CNN that Spacey sexually assaulted him.

[quote]All eight people, each of whom spoke to CNN on the condition of anonymity for fear of professional repercussions for speaking out, described Spacey's behavior as "predatory," saying it included nonconsensual touching and crude comments and targeted production staffers who were typically young and male.

Is "Romi" at r167 the same fangirl who obsessively defends Kevin on twitter?

I bet it is.

You just made up things. The one guy who was initially involved in the Rapp case dropped out because he couldn't be guaranteed anonymity. Not because he was "running away"

Several of the things you said about Heather Unruh and her son are lies as well

R170, that's brilliant

R172, why should he be granted anonymity? he's in his 50s and if he can go around to the media and tell his story and recruit Anthony Rapp to humiliate himself in court then he can show his face.

I remember hearing rumors about Spacey when I was growing up in Nowheresville in the 2000s

R174, he didn't humiliate himself in court, except according to fangirls like you.

And if he had used his name you'd accuse him of wanting publicity. That's what fangirls always do.

Trial starts tomorrow

RS and all those gay Hollywood whores can fuck off. Kevin is an excellent actor that's been in some good movies worth repeated rewatches. I hope he comes back because there are two few talented actors in that town. A piece of wood was just cast as the next Superman, it's bleak these days in Hollywood.

Spacey won me over with his hilarious "Frank" video in his kitchen.

r41 this is a site that loves to dish on the casting cough, which is a form of sexual assault. We don't give a damn about fame hungry men getting it on with an Oscar winning actor. He's so out of shape looking that I have to know how small these twinks must have been for him to overpower them. He looks like he could barely chase you around a bed.

Gurl that's a rough 65.....

The age of consent in New York state was 14 years old. It was raised to 17 years old in 2017, long after the young man accused Spacey.

It may be unsavoury but it wasn't illegal when Spacey hit on a 14 year old.

R182, that's not true at all. The age of consent was not 14 in NY in the 80s

R178 thinks sexual abusers who are good actors should receive prefential treatment over ordinary abusers

Even before the criminal charges he hadn't made a good movie in years, anyway, just crap like the Billionaire Boys Club. If you like him as an actor go watch LA Confidential or something

When you're defending the legality of fucking 14yo boys you really need to take a good look at what choices in your life led you to that place.

I mean fucking hell.

[quote]That's not true at all. The age of consent was not 14 in NY in the 80s

Thanks for calling out the idiot at R182. It's amazing how or why people come up with such bullshit.

You're in deep denial if you don't see he's a sexual predator. Good riddance.

Jury selection started today

All he’s guilty of is clumsy propositioning and the occasional fondle. Not exactly difficult to deal with. Either you say yes and give him a blowie or whatever, or you say no and no harm is done.

[quote]All he’s guilty of is clumsy propositioning and the occasional fondle. Not exactly difficult to deal with. Either you say yes and give him a blowie or whatever, or you say no and no harm is done.

In my opinion, it's a LOT more serious if the people he propositioned and fondled were far less famous actors who were working with him on various projects, or any of his underlings when he was the artistic director of a theater in England. Do you not see a MAJOR difference there?

I would be alarmed if we brought in a system compelling famous people only to proposition people at their own level of fame. It’s hard to see how it could be policed.

[quote]Very sarcastic, R191. But most sane people in the world agree that there can be HUGE problems when someone in a position of authority or great power in a company, or working on a film or a Broadway show, etc. makes sexual overtures to someone who is merely a member of the rank and file. If you can't understand why that is, I'm not going to waste my time in trying to explain it to you.

R189 must grope people without their permission, too

R193 no I’m not, but I’ve certainly had it done to me, including a man who fingered me without asking when I was queuing to buy a drink at the bar. I thought it was moderately amusing at the time but maybe I should have had better boundaries. But, look, of course no one wants propositioning when there’s any kind of intimation that your career will be damaged if you don’t go along with it. The Harvey Weinstein type of thing. That’s wrong.

R193 “No I *don’t*…” is how that opening sentence was meant to read

It’s scandalous.

Depraved.

The utterly fucked up general attitude about sexual assault around here is one of the worst things about DL.

Why in all of the many volumes and editions and species of Kevin Spacey threads, is it blatantly ignored that Spacey's brother came out and told his story that their dad sexually abused both of them? I personally find that to be incredibly disturbing and significant. And sad. And alarming. And relevant.

I'm not saying all abused children grow up to become abusers. Most don't. But the shoe sure fits here.

And no, I'm not equating being fucked by his own father as the reason why Kevin Spacey is gay. So don't come after me. It's clear, though, that Spacey is sexually compulsive. The only way Kevin Spacey seems to be able to relate sexually to others is if there is an extreme age difference, extreme power imbalance, via pressure, preying upon, or straight up groping/assault. He's a deviant.

Also their dad was a Nazi sympathizer. A Nazi white nationalist who fucked and tortured his own sons while their mother turned a blind eye. It sounds like a truly nightmarish childhood and it's amazing he or his brother didn't commit suicide. It's amazing Kevin found something he loves and channeled his soul into something constructive. it's just a shame about his gross, rapey weirdness. It's unacceptable.

I hope Kevin has been able to get some therapy and gain insight because he seems, in spite of all of this dysfunction, that there is a cool talented guy in there. But he's sick, he is damaged.

But he plays smug sociopaths really well so leave him alone!

[quote]r198 Why in all of the many volumes and editions and species of Kevin Spacey threads, is it blatantly ignored that Spacey's brother came out and told his story that their dad sexually abused both of them? … It's amazing Kevin found something he loves and channeled his soul into something constructive.

When he talks about that, we’ll talk about that.

Until then… [italic]lock ‘im up!

I feel a bit sorry for him. Do you think this was all just a maladaptive way of seeking affection?

I do, R201. I also think was a functional alcoholic for decades. Most likely starts drinking as soon as he wakes up, and so his social protocols and boundaries at work were skewed from the loosening effects of the alcohol flowing through his veins. And it's on record that he was a very messy drunk off the clock, he played HARRRRDDDDD, got wasted constantly. Leading to countless more egregious breaches of normal social boundaries.

Kevin Spacey's brother is a nut. I wouldn't put too much stock in what he claims. He didn't even say Kevin was abused, anyway. He was the one who was abused.

I wish one of his victims had screamed "Get your stinking paws off me, you damn dirty ape!"

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Spacey was such a predator that good-looking young men had to be warned about him

[quote] and it seems to work so good for him, I guess.

Oh, [italic]dear.[/italic]

You'd think Kevin Spacey would use this time off to get facial work done.

Yes, I know he's a serious stage actor, and they tend not to have work done because they think it limits them for roles. But he also wants to look hot for younger guys.

CBS is where I got the information that the age of consent in NY went from 14 to 18 in 2017. It was done by Andrew Cuomo. This was technically the age of consent for marriage. I thought it functioned as just one age of consent for sexual activity and I'm still not sure that it isn't.

I know, that must make me a "groomer" to you bunch of paranoid freaks. I've actually always preferred men in their 40's even when I was a teenager myself. Of course now I'm much too old for men in their 40's.

Mysterious deaths of his accusers:

How absolutely bizarre and creepy was this:

I always got the feeling his Lex Luthor wanted to f*ck Superman

He looks like a old potato now. Maybe he can get some creepy grandpa parts.

I wish they would have let him do the last season of House Of Cards

I'll show myself out....