Heartstopper

The leads

Bash

The leads again

Aubrey Plaza resharing Joe’s post

Joes post

Kits post

Kizzy just commented “oh you guyssss” on Kit’s post

Bash and Maia competing for worst fumbles of the century.

Can't get how over how fucking hot Kit is.

God bless Kit for his clear love of Joe and for providing pictures.

R8 I’ll give it to bash solely because Maia at least lives abroad from Kit year round. On the real I get how a LDR forever changes things and don’t blame bash but I cannot understand how someone could end it with Kit or joe.

As a fan of joes jawline and especially ass - one of my favourite photos

Ok so totally could be nothing and i could be blind but doesn’t that jacket that Joe is holding look like that blue collab Carhartt jacket that Kit was wearing everywhere a couple of months ago?

R13 it does. Joe is such a little magpie I respect it. Literally all of bash’s shit when he was dating, nicks hoodie, now kits sunglasses and jacket. He knows he’s tiny and cute and men want to see him in their clothes and nothing else

I’ve been struck by a terminal case of gay lizard brain because I keep going to Kit’s post and swiping back and forth between the pictures of Kit and Joe. Jesus.

R15 same. Need to see Kit fucking joe asap. Sadly I’ll have to settle for Alice’s hickey scene

R13 I would not be surprised if we found out in a tell-all book decades from now that Joe and Kit fucked this entire weekend.

the likes on his post are insane, its not even been an hour and he is already over 330k

I wonder if the union station pics are from them getting to dc or its of them leaving

Poor joe bash shippers on twitter getting very excited over the Cartier ring

R20 Who? Everyone seems to know that they’re over. I only see the usual fans wanting Joe and Kit to get together.

R20 I liked the two together, but don't understand them at all. I'll just smile and nod and continue trying to figure out what hat Joe is wearing since the logo is bugging me and I can't read it

R20 Rip but this is my favorite pic of them. Need Joe to leave his hair long. He looks so cute.

R21 latam fans mostly, I read/speak Spanish so come across them

Kit and Joe's posts just show how much we don't see/know. They probably have a million pictures of the other on their phones.

R21 One of them is that biphobic Lexa cunt, unsurprisingly.

R25 for sure. With no disrespect to tobie I think the posts for his bday show that even better. No one is shipping or has any mania with tobie and Kit or joe and yet both pics were brand new to us. If they’re keeping those under wraps, the pics of Kit and joe or pre breakup joe and bash must be huge in volume

R25 Now that we know Kit has a digital camera I'm sure there are about 100 pictures of Joe from the last couple of days that we'll never see.

R25 she’s a moron. Especially funny because bash’s are just generic ones so idk what she means. Bash hasn’t even liked his post but apparently they’re basically back together and married over it. Anyway joe is looking hot as fuck.

R26

I speak Spanish too so i see the clique thinking that they are back together. Like girl that relationship is dead.

Anyways, they look hot af and any more content that they want to put out, i would gladly take

I mainly just want Joe's camera roll. Never forget Joe has Bash's dick pics

Another video in this post, another example of Kit not giving joe any personal space

R31 The sheer quantity of those… share them for the gays, Joe.

R31 while I’d love to see those I’ll be honest I’m a Joe guy so I really want bash’s phone for pics of joes ass, hole, and his lips wrapped around bash’s cock. Also videos of joe being fucked and dirty talking because I know his bedroom talk must be exquisite. I really don’t ask for much.

R31 I would personally take Joe and Kit ass pictures over Bash dick pictures.

I love dick so I know what I want. I still need to know the other one’s sizes.

I guess that means their travels are over if Kit is posting a general photo dump? Would be a shame when they’ve only just reunited (and we’re loving the content).

Could be they just came for the parade. Getting invited is a pretty big deal.

Aubrey reposting Joe's story is wild. I know they worked together but still hard to believe sometimes.

R37 a shame, but I’m sure it’ll be nice for Joe to go home. I know Netflix will obviously get him a. Hotel for promo, but think he’d also be welcome for visits at kits house . Or Will. Guessing tobie stays with one of them in London

R34 imagining Joe’s bratty dirty talk keeps me up at night. In a good way

I will go to my grave, based on literally no evidence at all, that Joe is one of those tiny twinks with a big dick. I’d kindly ask you all to respect my fantasy

R40 the sounds joe makes in bed are, without ever hearing them, probably one of the hottest on earth. Dick size I am agreed. I also think Kit is a little above average in length but extremely girthy. Again, kindly respect my vision.

Do love the camp wrist. And also how Kit’s touching Joe’s arm - there really was no personal space that day.

R42 I think there is probably some Kit based sign they are laughing at. Wish we had context

Joe and Will are probably both bigger and girthier than Kit unfortunately. No one is in Bash's league that we know of, but maybe there is one in the rest of the cast.

R44

i know we have joked about it in old threads but what if it did turn out to be Bradley

(R40, look away.)

R44 The little evidence we have on Joe points to small and not particularly girthy, but his talents lay elsewhere. Do we have anything at all on Will?

R39 If Kit's still living with his parents, I doubt his mom would mind having Joe over.

Well knowing that we’re probably years away from Bash showing his dick makes me upset. He has to eventually do it, anything else is anti-gay.

Kit being at half a million likes on Instagram when most people in the UK are asleep is kind of nuts.

Also, for anyone keeping tabs, OF Nick liked Kit’s post.

R48 I can see him getting it out on screen or stage for something artsy.

Guys with big dicks love the reaction people have to it, he’ll show it at one point.

R50 And Kit doesn't even follow him back. He's very thirsty for him and I can't blame him.

A full size of this picture was posted.

R49

the engagement with his followers has always been great so that doesn’t surprise me

I think they will all show at some point. I find British actors are less fussy about dropping trou for the camera.

R54

kits clunky shoes and black cargo pants are awful. I hate how big joes pants are.

R49 even Joe’s post is still picking up likes. He got like 300K in the first hour and I thought it would kind of peak around 450K but he’s tracking over 700k. Kit’s engagement is always insane but I’m impressed that after half a year of no content Joe is able to muster those numbers. I’d attribute a lot of that to the Kit photos in the post but still impressive on its own merits

R58 Also the fact that Audrey shared his post.

R58 Joe will get a Kit/HS boost and Kit will get a Joe/HS boost. Wouldn't be surprised if Joe hits 1M even if it takes a couple of days, Kit for sure will.

I hope Netflix sends them to the US for talk shows both for the press and so that they keep having reasons to post each other.

Joe saying Kit’s T-shirt was very fun. I thought it sounded a little suggestive. He’s really in the mood for a muscle boy right now.

Yeah, he may not even mean the Chippendales. He might be referring to the bod underneath.

R61 I hope that as well. These posts are more personal content of just the two of them than they’ve ever really shared before (not counting the stuff when they were filming S1). Hopefully they keep it up

Where from r54?

R65 Jordan’s twitter

Thanks r66

Perusing his account I see he’s a fan of DL’s favorite twitter lesbian. Disappointing.

R50 Wonder how long it took him to ask Joe for a threesome with Kit. Within 5 minutes of meeting?

Joe shared Kit’s post. This interaction is the best.

R68 Probably given how quickly he followed Kit, and I wouldn't blame him. If I was the third person in that threesome you would not be able to get me to shut the fuck up about it.

R69 I’ve been trying to guess where they are, but that could either be a later at night in NYC/Atlanta or jet lag early morning in the UK.

This is insanely petty of me, but it cracks me up that despite unfollowing Joe, Bash’s sister still winds up seeing him on Kit’s page.

We will be getting more Joe and Kit interactions and public outings of this sort going forward I guess.

Now I'm wondering if it was really Joe already being in a relationship with Bash that was kind of holding him back from being so open about his bond with Kit.

I don't think so. Even if they hadn't broken up Joe and Kit would have gone to this event alone together. Though I'm the same person who think they haven't changed much, other than the obviously gotten closer since S2.

And hard to tell where they are. Joe's gonna be impossible to tell since he's been in the US for 7 months.

R73 I agree and I've always said that Bash was in the way of Joe and Kit's friendship. Kit was the perpetual third wheel.

R71 My guess is that Joe's back in Atlanta and Kit is headed to or already back in the UK. It's not really what I wanted, though. I wanted them to do more press.

R73 With Kit and with everything else in general. If Joe keeps up the activity and personality on his social media, I'll be convinced of it. I also wonder if they were in any way affected with Bash not explicitly coming out, if that played any part with Joe holding back. Because he is super gay with Kit.

Every one becomes the third wheel when friends with a couple.

R76 Actually wondered if he cared about Bash never really coming out before. He doesn't have to and he's out enough, but yeah. Someone who is so proudly out like Joe is must be a bit weird. Though not like he wants his personal life out in the open so maybe he never cared.

Though both Joe and Bash became boring when they were dating, so it's not just Joe. Bash used to be a lot fun online.

R74 You are the only person on these threads making any sense at all. Joe and Kit have always been friends. Yes, Joe was previously in a relationship with Bash, but he was still very close to Kit. Nothing that we’ve seen in the last few days changes anything. Joe and Kit are very close friends who are acting like very close friends.

I know DL is full of thirsty bitches, and obviously most HS fans find Joe and/or Kit extremely attractive. But the fanfiction you have all been writing is too much.

R76 There for sure some leeway with Kit that he didn’t have with Bash. He never would have made the faggot joke with Bash, for one.

R79 Then change the subject or try to revive the Bash thread.

There’s no point posting the same things in two threads, these ones have more drama.

R79 I feel like a crazy person since Joe and Kit were always close and people forget the times they hung out and were all over each other when Joe was dating Bash. Do we need con gif spam again? Though some people be acting like they were dry humping on the float and Bash was holding Joe back. The sudden anti-Bash sentiment in this thread is a bit weird honestly.

R83 I don't think this particular discussion is anti-Bash. In a just world he wouldn't need to Lance Bass his way out but the fact is that if you don't say the words, it has the ability to affect things and people.

R76 I guess he could be in Atlanta, though OF Nick is desperately searching for tops and not sure Joe can deliver that.

R85 OF Nick posted that he found one (with video evidence), so Joe is off the hook for now.

It would be nice if the overt negativity was left on other sites and we were just horny here. Trolls are annoying and just get threads spammed for no reason.

R83 I’m not feeling much anti-Bash sentiment really. More anti the relationship but I see your point. Everyone could chill about what was ‘holding Joe back’. He seems like the same cheeky shit as always, he’s just not having to keep a relationship under wraps - which I think was just a privacy thing tbh. He doesn’t have the same need for privacy because he and Kit aren’t dating - at all.

Can we not use “fanfic” as the insult on here - Jesus boys. I’ve never been so offended in my life (this is mainly a joke)- it’s such straight woman shit. I’d honestly prefer to be called Frau (I assume the two are aligned). Not sure about the others but I’m honestly just chatting shit

Muriel already hates these threads, can’t people just be normal.

so anyways, looking at the photos again. Joe’s suitcase is on the smaller side. Im guessing he has no immediate plans to leave the us yet

I think I’m missing something because these comments about Bash are all mild considering some of the stuff that’s been said on here recently and I’m not seeing anything that comes off overtly trolly. This is backlash to nothing.

R90 He was likely always planning to leave from Atlanta, it'd be a pain in the ass to lug big suitcases from Atlanta to NYC and then to DC and then to the UK. Think it's funny that he probably only packed a couple of pants, a couple of shirts, 7 caps, and decided he'd get anything else he needs from Kit.

A lot of his crap could already be on the IOM when he went home last time, espeically knowing he wasn't going to stay much longer in the US. Actually assuming he didn't bring many things since he wears the same pants every time we see him and hey he left some with Bash when they broke up too.

R91 Agree. Since when did having normal discussions or pointing out the obvious become anti Bash or overtly trolly?

And about Joe holding back with Kit cause of his relationship with Bash, this is something that has been said right from the start since Heartstopper dropped. So it's obvious that people will point out the difference now as Joe seems much more open and carefree.

Who knows how much stuff Joe actually has - he was working like crazy, if he returned some of Bash’s shit his wardrobe was pretty slim and he might not have had time to replace it. Wasn’t Joe wearing $1000 kicks on the float? I addition to his slut era (hopefully) presumably he is also in his high-end shopping era. As a bit of a fashion guy, I’m excited to see how his style evolves now he has to buy his own stuff. I really hope we don’t see him swimming Kit’s carhartt shit. I get that it’s cute but I’d rather have a good view of that hot chest of his in tight shirts

Kit’s parade look was way hotter than the mirror selfies, but that’s just me. They should’ve gone shirtless on that float, it’s pride after all. The internet would combust. They should kick it up a notch at London pride.

R96 It’s the facial expression that does it for me in the mirror selfie (the second one in the post).

Do we think Kit’s garment bag was for his outfit from the Netflix picture or for something else?

R98 I think it was for the blue shirt and pants.

R53 I do find it funny that both of the mildly messy breakup related kit follows (Nick and Bashs sister) he doesn’t follow back despite following nearly a thousand people. He is truly Switzerland in all this

These are cute.

they do not have zones of personal space

R104 Bodes well for the hickey scene assuming Alice didn’t completely neuter them and she let David Thackeray do his job.

I hate the app lol, but has anyone looked on TikTok for any Pride clips we might not have seen?

This probably won’t work, but it’s a cute clip.

R106 Looking now, the way Kit spreads his arms in this one is cute.

R107 that is really cute but laughing at the “joe saw my queer was always here shirt” part. Probably not the highlight of his day

Lack of personal space in the beginning.

There's a cute bit of Joe dancing at the end and it's funny how Kit just gravitates towards Joe when Joe steps off the platform.

What is the male casts allergy to thirst commenting on joe? Choosing to believe it’s them all being too horny for him

R110 This is really sweet - I love how they’ve been apart for six months and yet the physical closeness hasn’t changed at all. Sorry to be cheesy but I can only imagine what the hug was like when they reunited.

There’s a new picture of Bash (I think?) in this post.

R114 Everyone saying Bash fumbled but Joe fumbled too. Bash looks amazing. And he's rich and kind and has a big dick. Sad times.

R115 How did Joe fumble? By taking a job?

R116 We don't know what happened. Even if Bash ended it, it takes 2 to make a relationship work.

But sadly, it only needs one to end it.

R117 Saying we don't know what happened and then going on to say that it takes two to make a relationship. Make it make sense.

Anyways what exactly was Joe supposed to do? Drop the Marvel project and go back to the UK cause his boyfriend was feeling a bit insecure?

No one fumbled, long distance relationships are hard.

R117 Why are you acting like we know what really happened? I'm just saying everyone was saying Bash fumbled because Joe is amazing and I just said Bash is a great catch too, relax.

Think people are forgetting that Joe was the one who despite being busy with Marvel made it a point to go see Bash's play in his clothes as well. This definitely looks like him putting in efforts. So the 'it takes two to make a relationship' point doesn't work here as Joe was willing to work for it from the looks of it.

But good thing he's free from that relationship cause he looks way more open and carefree now that he's done with it.

There are a lot of gaps being filled in these threads - speculating is harmless and fair enough, but some people are talking as if we have any facts at all besides the fact that they aren’t together. We know precisely nothing else.

Fwiw. The “fumbled” stuff for me has always been related to hot photos and our speculation Bash ended it, not anything else. Ending a relationship age 19 and 21 is not a sign of s fumble by either party and honestly it’s probably a smart move. Hopefully they end up friends but 2 years being hot cute and wholesome together and then being free to fuck around and be selfish is a good run

Leaving this here.

R125 Bash's disinterest rubbed me the wrong way when it dropped but back then mostly everyone was like it's probably nothing. But now we are getting to know that it wasn't just probably nothing.

R122 And Bash invited Joe to his place and welcomed him into his family. He was always supportive of him. Bought him nice presents. Stayed with him in Atlanta. We don't know what happened, it could be anyone's fault.

Joe liked a comment trolling Kit about the name mistake.

Or no one's.

The fact that they’ve been (from what we’ve seen, including friend and most family conduct) very very mature about this suggests no huge “fumbles” to me, just changing feelings either on how much they loved one another or how feasible continual long distance is. I take the point that acting like bash is a dick based on this is dumb and agree but don’t understand the point of trying to suggest anything shows Joe is a bad guy here either

R125 I remember that the girl who saw them said that they were both on the phone and they were showing each other things on the phone and they are also talking

I feel like people have posted theories and then everyone collectively agreed Bash ended it. But we really don’t know. There relationship clearly wasn’t perfect, and I think they had a fight that spilled onto sm slightly that we saw. But really we have very few facts.

One of the biggest arguments for why people thought Bash ended it and not Joe was because Bash seemed happier, and Joe was the one being messy on main. But several people who saw Bash at his play have said he looks like he’s lost weight and especially in the days right after Joe posted those NYC stories Bash looked like shit.

Joe looks great now, and has definitely moved on faster. I actually think Joe is the one who ended it. Which is totally fine. And obviously I don’t know, but that’s the point. None of us know.

R132 the reason I thought bash ended it was because he missed two opportunities to visit Joe (2 weeks or so in Japan and then TS) and Joe came over to visit him with his friend and in his clothing which is really weird if you’re ending things. It had nothing to do with thinking bash looked great or Joe Seemed petty. I honestly don’t think either has looked rough - bash was unshaved for a role, underneath the scruff he looked the same. But I don’t think either would be a bad person for ending it absent cheating or whatever which seems v unlikely

R114 That was from this day:

I will laugh my ass off if Bash pops back up in Atlanta this week and we’ve been saying they’re both glowing this week post breakup when it turns out they worked things out. But to me all signs point to done for good which tbh is less messy for them, for mutuals, and for their shared job

Has Bash been glowing?

Personally, I would only seriously entertain the possibility of a reconciliation if Joe unfollowed OF Nick and Bash unfollowed the twinks.

R136 Just realized Bash liked that Charlie twink's post the other day, so he's not really off social media.

R137 He just didn't deem it important to post something for Tobie yesterday that means. Maybe the cast members are taking sides after all who knows.

R136 I don’t think they’re reconciling but I think he and Joe both look good

R138 If he doesn't show up at Tobie's play we'll know. Now I'm wondering if they're going to wind up going in groups. Like, if Joe is back in the UK in time will he be the one to go with Kit and Will? Or will it be Bash? Or does Bash just not go?

Are fans even going to Tobie's play? Haven't heard much about it other than that one day.

And I don't think they'd reconcile without seeing each other.

Bash has liked a few things, though hasn't been online much in weeks. But telling he liked a random twink's post. I don't think it means anything as far as his relationship with Tobie though. Who knows, maybe he just wanted to stay offline to avoid all the Joe posting after Pride and not to have to worry about liking or not liking things. I wouldn't be too shocked if Bash just distances himself in general from HS and the cast from now on, at least publicly.

R140 Bash might also go with rheA, though I doubt anyone takes sides

Do we think Joe and Kit (and maybe others) will show up at London Pride on 1st July? Or will they consider DC Pride as their public pride appearance of the year? I honestly don’t know at this point.

Also, I wonder what we’ll get with Saturday’s Tudum event. I wonder if part of the meeting with the Netflix guy in NY was filming a little segment for that?

I mean i would love for them to show up at the Tudum event, but im thinking if they do show up, it would be more of a video segment not a physical appearance.

Jw A. has his mens show in Milan on Sunday so i am fully expecting for Kit to show up there instead.

I'm going to throw this out there, I have a theory that Kit was in New York auditioning for a play. He followed Jeremy O. Harris, who is in the middle of casting "two very gay plays."

Jeremy doesn't follow him back yet, but he did like this tweet of Kit the other day so Kit is on his radar.

I wonder if Will is attending the Saint Laurent men’s show in Berlin.

R145 I would absolutely make my way to NYC if Kit ended up in a play.

Heartstopper is mentioned on here.

I didn’t like slave play but I’d love kit to be in something of his. Critics love him, they get great viewership, and I think he would smash it. Can see w play (more likely in England) as joes next move after s3 too

R150 Jeremy's been leaning into producing more recently, so there's a decent chance he didn't write whatever he's casting. He did produce Ain't No Mo' and Sidney Brustein's Window this season, which did okay in terms of Tony nominations (but I think the only win was Miriam Silverman?).

Kit doing Broadway would be huge. I'd make a trip to NY to see him if he got a part. Sounds like a great career move.

R151 oh I see. Cool either way, he’d get a whole new prestige whore audience for his work which is great for other castings

R145

wait, i would love this actually. I didn’t like slave play but i would totally make a trip to nyc to see the play. Im now going to be keeping a lookout on this

R149 oh nice. Guessing they filmed a little intro the other day for a clip that’ll be screened, probably the paris one Yaz showed at an event

Never mind, looks like Cori and Kizzy are doing it. Guess that’s why they filmed at Netflix that day

R156 Was just coming to post that, here’s the source on it being Cori and Kizzy.

Tudum is always a bust. I wonder what Kit and Joe did at Netflix in NY though.

The last time someone from the show filmed something in New York, it was this.

I somehow forgot till today that Connor used to follow and be friends w the director of Red, White, and Royal Blue, and then he p, Joe, and Bash all randomly unfollowed him after some falling out. Wonder what happened. Boring but confirms a bit more to me that the Joe and Bash breakup isn’t really (aside from family and some individual friends) a huge drama, as clearly they’re willing to be a little messy. Sure there are hurt feelings and doubt they’ll be more than amicable in the next few months, but seems overall fine

Need it to be something more interesting than Netflix icons like last year. Maybe a teaser or a short clip.

I’m still thinking it’s the Paris clip that people saw at the Netflix event, the timing lines up to when a teaser should be dropping based on last season’s timeline.

R162 I think it's just gonna be the date of the teaser/trailer. I don't see them giving us more so long before the premiere.

Netflix liked a tweet about a 'Heartstopper teaser' at Tudum, which points towards a teaser trailer or clip - but I guess it could just mean a teaser like a poster or more stills? I get the impression it's going to be more substantial than last time, anyway.

I think it’s that Paris clip the entire world has seen except us.

R163 The first season’s teaser was released 37 days before the season came out, Tudum is 47 days before season 2 comes out.

I think a teaser is likely. It’s about halfway after their date announcement, around 45 days till the show comes out. A teaser then and then the trailer a few weeks or month out makes sense

It is funny to see the RWRB movie try the same Joe/Kit dynamic in interviews that made Joe and Kit work

R168

I do like the dynamic from them so far. Its not Joe/Kit levels but i think its still good

Patrick liked Bradley's random Paris trip post in under 10 minutes but still hasn't liked Kit or Joe's Pride posts. Starting a rumour that he's jealous of Joe for being with Kit.

R170 he’s team Bash

R168 I haven't felt any chemistry from any of the stills or clips and from what I heard they've barely interacted since they've finished filming this. Hoping it works out and that they do wind up having chemistry for the sake of the people who liked the book.

For people who are following their finstas, Joe just dropped another follower. So many of the people who follow these private accounts are other private accounts, so it's impossible to say who unfollowed.

This is kind of a general comment triggered by this weekend, but something I really appreciate about this cast is that all of these young actors are so unabashedly queer. Joe and Tobie were both out from the onset. Once Kit came out, he fully leaned into his queerness without giving a fuck. None of them are pulling a Richard Madden for the sake of their careers.

R173 Just checked, Bash's following number went down by one.

On his finsta, not on his public account.

R175 to 427? It’s still 428 for me.

I wonder if they unfollowed each other?

Seems like it was hours apart so probably not him.

R176 Yikes. Honestly, I thought something like this would happen. It's not unusual but the people that were sure they would be fine in a couple of weeks were very optimistic. Sagittarius men tend to break things off completely once they're over someone. They usually want to move on with their lives and not dwell on what could be. Libras love to show they are doing good and they also move on fast. Obviously, we don't have a confirmation that they unfollowed each other but yeah.

Honestly now is around the time unfollowing makes sense and doesn’t symbolize any drama. Anything really bad is an immediate unfollow. After a few weeks, you realise the break up is final as family and friends and you unfollow if you don’t think you’ll interact again.

R177 I just refreshed a couple of times, definitely dropped to 427.

R174 Joe being so unabashedly out and proud always made me wonder about how he felt about Bash still not saying anything about his sexuality. Must have sucked at times for Joe.

whats bash’s finsta handle?

Until their other numbers change, it looks like Bash unfollowed Joe but Joe hasn't unfollowed Bash yet. If those numbers drop by one at the same time as well, that's pretty much confirmation.

R184

R182 I’m intrigued by Bash doing more to wipe Joe out that Vice versa. Tbh it’s interesting that the only one we know had a past relationship is Bash, and he seemed to totally wipe that ex slate clean too. Unfollowed all their mutuals as well for instance. He might just like a cold Turkey ending

R180 I'm not too surprised if they unfollowed each other and Bash just kind of ignores HS. He unfollowed all those old friends of his with his other ex. They'll never unfollow each other publicly.

Though could be anyone

R182 interesting, still not dropped for me but I believe you

To be clear no one is saying Joe unfollowed Bash, just Vice versa that Joe lost a follower. If it was Bash I’m Guessing Bash muted him on main and decided to unfollow on priv, also guessing Joe posted more with kit etc yesterday and Bash just doesn’t want to see his ex

R187 Well joe removed 2 pics from his finsta already and archived two Bash related things on his IG already. Gonna be funny when Bash has to get back online and clean up his actual IG. I guess he could just remove all the Joe pics from the first photo

R189 I also see 427

R189 I’m not R175, but I’m also seeing 427.

R190 If he doesn't want to see Joe he's gonna have to mute a lot of people in the upcoming months

Gotcha. Yeah I believe the unfollow, just a sign it’s final for sure. Guessing his post clearout will start soon. I think the “get back together” or besties thing is unlikely but do think by October they should be able to be amicable

Joe seems so unbothered in all this. Even friends and family members from his side seem to be acting so maturely.

To be fair, Bash seems very unbothered himself. They are both good actors I'm assuming.

Bash can take himself out from Heartstopper and all things related to it cause muting Joe is of no use. Joe is going to be everywhere in the coming months.

R189 I double-checked from a browser and the number went down when I refreshed, you might be seeing the old cache.

R197 Won't go with Bash being unbothered cause most of his behaviour online if we go by what people on here are assuming is the exact opposite of unbothered.

R197 His sister must have heard something from Bash to unfollow, I think. Wouldn't say totally unbothered.

Tbh I don’t think an unfollow from a private account is a sign of anything, either immaturity or botheredness or even real enmity, except that it’s done. They broke up at a minimum a few weeks ago. No one blocked anyone, their mutual friends seek good with both: of course a breakup after 2 years so young has a lot of feelings and sucks, but I think they probably didn’t wrong one another in any way

R200 Fans who have seen him say he's very unbothered and happy and even pointing out Joe shirts after they broke up. All the online stuff is speculation.

Kind of makes Kit still following Maia's finsta even funnier.

Also pretty sure some DLers saw him last week with the same fan account that he seemed totally fine. Bash seems like a great guy, but I'd never date a Sag though. I'm a Sag so know.

R204 Kit and Maia were never that serious

R205 Which would make it easier for them to cut ties on that level.

Poor Tobie, Bash went online long enough to unfollow Joe but not to post a birthday shoutout.

Will also point out that when they’re both home and less busy is kind of when I expect the breakup to “hit” Them. They’re both active and extremely professional. Wouldn’t be surprised if they threw themselves into work and now that the play is done he’s processing it more. Similarly wouldn’t he shocked if we saw Joe doing more archiving or unfollowing after he’s back in IOM

The unfollowing and Joe losing a follower were several hours apart though, could it really be him?

Unfollowing someone and most probably having said something to your sister that led to her unfollowing your ex doesn't really scream unbothered.

R204 Exactly. R202 They've been friends and dating for 2 years and after a few weeks post-breakup they already unfollowed each other on their private? And they'll most likely see each other soon because of the show. I don't think they hate each other but there's definitely something happening behind the scenes.

R208 We don't know. People just assuming.

R210 well we can agree to disagree. To be clear I don’t think they’ll be best mates or even more than amicable, just that it’s not necessarily some huge drama. Just hurts right now. The thing to me is they WERENT friends for two years, they started dating minute one basically. If they want to be friends, which who knows? Then that’ll be brand new to them. Anyway, not looking forward to the next round of “poor Bash, Joe wronged him” this discovery will spark on twt.

R208 Bash's numbers are still glitching between 428 and 427 so I don't think we can exactly say that it happened hours apart? It would be a hell of a coincidence otherwise that both numbers went down by 1.

Just going to say I don’t think kit would be so nice and matey with Joe if he fucked bash over. Don’t think bash fucked Joe other either, just saying he made a really personal post with lots of photos of him last night and I think he’d be a bit more sensitive if he shattered bash’s heart or something

Lucy has a new playlist on Spotify with a Joe pic form Atlanta if you want to assume things from the contents. Song are very Joe coded for what it's worth

R214 I think everyone pretty much thinks Bash did the dumping since nobody flies across the world and rolls into town wearing your BF sweater with your bestie to end your relationship. Though I don't think breaking up with someone after months apart is really fucking the other person over either.

R215 Though most of the songs were added in April so just cheesy songs Joe likes I'm assuming

R214 Yeah, it's very clear that Kit loves Joe and his feelings towards him haven't changed at all. That just wouldn't be the case if Joe had done something awful. Not that he'd be unprofessional and ignore or unfollow Joe or anything either, but he'd at least be a bit more subtle.

Lucy's playlist.

Bash made a new blank Spotify playlist named “fuck yeah” for what it’s worth.

I can see a world in which bash said something about how things felt different and asked to try to take a break, and Joe said no to the break, he would prefer to end it. Both would feel dumped then, both have hurt feelings, etc.

From a Sag point of view, the amount of exes I've totally ghosted is too damn high but I also got super pissed when one ex ghosted me and moved on.

don't date a Sag just saying.

R218

they all are very Joe. Lucy seems nice

No drama, but Kit's SOUL playlist is so good. He updated it last week, added Bill Withers' Use Me.

R220 Glad we have the perspective from a fellow Sag. My ex bf ghosted me and blocked me on everything after a heated argument so, here's that. I know we say they're professionals but they're also 19 and 21.

R219 Actually could see that. Basically let's talk when you get back and Joe just nopes that. Tbh I just don't see Joe acting like he did right after the breakup if he was the one who first suggested it. Kinda like rubbing salt in the wound there. He did nothing wrong, but I think there would be some public unfollowing from some of Bash's friends

R222 Kit, the truly unbothered King

Bash has been in the UK for months but hasn't hung out with any of the cast members. So I am really not buying the whole close friends thing in Bash's case and it being difficult for them to choose amongst them if it came down to it.

R223 I once did it for no reason. Just got busy and didn't have time to talk and felt no desire to contact him at all. We lived apart from each other, so I just stopped speaking to him and never talked to him again. A mutual friend of ours occasionally randomly emails me trying to talk for some reason.

I'm sure things at a little more dramatic IRL than they are online. They are very young.

R225 He did hang out with Tobie in April? I think.

Did Bash unfollow someone from his public account? The same person he unfollowed from his finsta I’m assuming.

R227 Bash follows finstas with his finsta and doesn't follow finstas on his public account, so probably not the same person. Could also be someone randomly deactivating, that happens a lot with Kit's numbers on his public account (but not with his finsta). See if his number goes back up again in a couple of days without him following anyone new.

Some of you again made an assumption that it was Joe who Bash unfollowed. Even though the timings don't match at all and there's little to no proof. Then everyone wonders why the fraus on Twitter end up villainizing Joe always.

R229 The fraus on Twitter will believe whatever they want. It doesn't matter what we say because we know nothing. But seeing that both of them lost a follower on the same day is suspicious.

Is there proof that the timing doesn't match? Because I doubt anyone on here was refreshing both profiles at the same time all day and again, Bash's profile is glitching.

R225 To be fair, we have zero clue who he's hung out with. We catch little glimpses of hangouts when people bump into them in the street, but they were also having regular Come Dine With Me parties that we had no idea about. Admittedly, it does seem like Kit, Will and Tobie are hanging out more, but there's nothing to say that Bash hasn't been involved.

I think it’s too much of a coincidence for it not to have been Bash unfollowing Joe, but we’ll probably never know.

I thought people were going with a mutual unfollowing. Though we have no idea of knowing. A friend of Joe's could have unfollowed Bash and a friend of Bash's unfollowed Joe. Maybe the mom's unfollowed the other accounts. Who knows

I don't pay any attention for the most part to their exact follower number on their finstas

R233 Did joe lose a follower first? Someone said it was hours apart. Joe I think still hasn't unfollowed bash's sister

R234 Can't have been mutual because there hasn't been movement in the number of accounts that Joe follows in a while. The numbers that went down are 1) the number of accounts that Bash follows and, 2) the number of accounts that follow Joe, which would indicate that Bash unfollowed Joe.

R235 If Joe hasn’t bothered to unfollow Bash’s sister yet I could see why he wasn’t the one to unfollow Bash first. Maybe now he’ll purge them both, if it’s a more definitive break?

I noticed Joe losing a follower and when that happened, there was no change in Bash's finsta. It was like a couple of hours later that there was movement in Bash's account. So how did everyone come to the conclusion that it was Joe who it was that he unfollowed?

R236 For which there's basically no proof as they are private accounts and both the things happened with a couple of hours difference between them. But anything to further the agenda that suits the assumptions being made on here.

I didn't see anyone say it was Joe who unfollowed. Though maybe I missed it.

Occam's razor, plus Bash’s profile still showing 428 for some people means we can’t nail down a specific time for him.

Bash's profile is still glitching, I just checked and it's going between 427 and 428 again.

Bash still hasn't removed pics though? I refuse to believe it's not at least 75% Joe

R239 Alright, we know nothing and no one unfollowed each other. Better?

Better but boring. If Joe hasn't unfollowed Bash's sister I don't htink he'd unfollow Bash unless Bash unfollowed him. Though I guess we can just keep repeating we have no way of knowing

R244 Doesn't bother me one bit cause never really liked Bash so he can do what he wants. But some of you act like you know the happenings of a private account and try to hammer the baseless assumptions you make as the gospel truth which is weird to say the least.

Another weird thing is how it's always Bash who comes across looking to be the good guy in all the assumptions being made on here.

Bash is getting pretty shit on here, so not exactly sure where you are seeing everyone is making out Bash to be the good guy.

For what it’s worth, I just checked from two different accounts and the numbers don’t match, so I don’t think we can determine at what point today his following count changed.

They are re-breaking up and getting back together every few minutes

Tbh I'd believe it was Joe and Bash unfollowing each other if he archived some pics.

Joe hasn’t unfollowed anyone. Don’t know why some people think he has. Joe lost one follower. Bash’s following count (not followers count) is glitchy. Maybe Bash hasn’t unfollowed anyone, and a bot account is trying to make him auto-follow or something.

We don’t know. We never know. We’re all just guessing and enjoying the drama.

They haven't been doing anything in one fell swoop anyway. Joe archived posts but didn't unfollow Bash, Bash's sister unfollowed but Joe hasn't unfollow back, etc. It wouldn't surprise me if Bash unfollowed Joe but doesn't wipe his finsta and public account right away. But yes, no one is saying that Joe unfollowed anyone because he hasn't. He lost a follower and Bash unfollowed someone. 2 + 2 in the midst of a break-up equals...

R250 Actually true, everyone is talking about Bash and Joe's still at 167 which he has been since the sister unfollow.

R252 No, Joe was at 168 yesterday and is at 167 today.

R252 The 240 following is the number that hasn’t changed, the 168 followers changed to 167.

R253 So he was at 169 pre-breakup? Well, I'm wrong

R255 Pretty sure he was at 168 at the time we figured out that they broke up.

I'm curious what accounts they follow on their finstas that don't follow them. Assuming Bash follows 200 curly haired twinks.

R256 That's what I thought. It went down to 167 with the sister thing

R146 throwing back up to this for a second. I noticed this follow a couple of days ago and at the time Jeremy had shared Joe’s Fugut story, tagged both Kit and Joe and written ‘smdh’… I think it’s possible he met them both. Weird that he shared Joe’s story but doesn’t follow Joe but there you go

The only real sign that things are over is when they'll archive that birthday post.

R257 Remember it being 167 as well after Bash's sister unfollowed. Did anyone take a screenshot around that time?

I took notes on hoodiegate night. Joe was at 169, then went down to 168 the following day, when Bash's sister unfollowed.

R260 I did not screenshot but also thought 167. But who knows. Either way not following your ex isn’t that weird. Neither of them gets to avoid seeing their ex totally because they’re coworkers and famous. Pre having to see one another for work or the premiere taking a full break from seeing them having a good time at least feels fair. Doubt either wants to see the other rebounding for instance

R259 Think everyone knows by now that they have broken up. People are just waiting to see who will be petty enough to unfollow the other first.

Keep in mind someone else unfollowed Bash in this time too. Not Joe, but it wasn’t a deactivated account as he unfollowed a few hours later so presumably one of joes family or friends. Even the most mature teenagers in the world are going to have hurt feelings and some amount of mess after a two year relationship ends. Nothing about this makes me think they’ll reconcile or be best friends or anything, but nothing has been so sudden or drastic that it suggested something really bad happened. If we saw for instance a connor unfollow it would raise an eyebrow more than his sister to me

Not to change the subject, but these pictures are cute next to each other.

Seems pretty normal to me for unfollowing and cleanups for themselves and other people they know. They are both off work and it's been about a month since they broke up.

Was just surfing through Instagram and TikTok and it just struck me that other than the ones on DL and Twitter who seem obsessed, no one really cares about Joe and Bash's relationship or even about Bash as an individual. It's only filled with Joe and Kit stuff which is understandable.

All this gives you a clearer picture as well about the whole Joe and Bash drama and how irrelevant it truly is.

R248 this and the random OF Nick follow of kit does make me think maybe they actually met up on NY. Jeremy kit and Joe are one group, Nick kit and Joe as another, to be clear.

R267 tbh I don’t think any of the drama matters in that it’ll impact their careers or become a fandom Drama. I more just feel bad for them both that I doubt this is a fun situation

R268

Jeremy?

R270 O. Harris.

If anyone has the fortitude to watch Alice talk to see if she says anything interesting, there’s video of the Hays Festival thing.

R267 This is not new information. Everyone knows nobody thinks Joe and Bash were dating or didn't notice or care and it's all Joe and Kit 24/7. Though this a gossip board so obviously we'll talk about who they are actually fucking.

The drama is more about their friends group and other shit related to their breakup. As long as Joe and Kit are cute in public the HS fandom won't give a single shit if Joe fucks every top in ATL.

R258 I noticed that Joe's Kit Story seemed to endear them to a lot of (comparatively) older gay men on social media. Guessing because it drives home that they're funny, grown gay men with personalities and not their characters.

Correcting myself, gay and bi men.

Also going to posit a theory that bash unfollowed joe after seeing that joe archived some pics. A sort of mutual “if you’re really done, so am I” thing. Not saying he’s being petty about it btw, but something similar happened after joe posted the NY pics. Bash’s sister unfollowed and bash followed and started liking posts by another twink. If he just realised (say, saw joes finsta stories with joe and visited his profile for the first time time in a while) joe archived two pics of them, he might’ve decided to unfollow.

R273 Joe's gonna have a whole new group of fans if he keeps showing more of his personality between the eldergays and the lesbians and women in general watching Agatha. He's charming as hell, hot and funny and unapologetically gay. A good combo. I expect the promo for Agatha to also be amazing.

Also going to be the boring person pointing out an unfollow=/=a block. Hurt feelings=/=the other person did something wrong, either way. Most people on here are being sane but a few are acting like there’s evidence either bash or joe was a dick in all this.

R277 Honestly, pretty much the only conclusion I'm reaching with the unfollow is that they're still broken up and that they're probably not thinking about getting back together.

R275 Could be, though I'm assuming Bash has been lurking online and probably noticed before. Actually Joe having to be in the US until mid-June makes me understand the breakup a lot more. He made an effort to go see Bash, but seeing each other once a month and missing his closing after Bash made such a big deal and brought half his family to Joe's has to sting a bit. Can't really be helped though.

R277 I don't think either were dicks since their mutual friends just aren't making the moves they would if they were

Has anyone else noticed that Yaz seems to be interacting more with posts from the cast? Noticed that she liked Kit's post. Also, wonder if Joe will pull a Joe and take permanent custody of Kit's sunglasses. I assume Kit'll at least get the Carhartt jacket back?

R279 fair enough re the sting; to be fair being an hour away is way way way different. But agreed seeing one another for what, 2 weeks total? Since January would be hard as fuck on any relationship. I’m sure they went into it with high hopes, sad it didn’t work out. Not as pessimistic as some about how their friendship will shake out though. Idk them of course but they’re in the same industry with mutual and have a few months to get over it. Can see them being totally friendly and capable of hanging out in a group eventually. I’ve had way more dramatic seeming breakups end up as friendships

R280

i noticed it. I just assumed that since promo is going to be starting soon, she would start interacting more

Joe just finished school a year ago, if he wasn't an actor he would be a freshman in college this year. Most high school relationship where the couple end up going to different universities break up during their first year of college. Joe and Bash are famous, but also human. They obviously cared about one another and seem to both be handling themselves really well. I think the chances of them trying a relationship take 2 this summer/fall when they are in the same place again are slim but not impossible. I think them moving on with their lives but having nothing but fond memories of the two years they shared (and thus being able to maintain a professional friendship) are extremely high.

R273 probably a bit of a relief to our demographic (though I wouldn’t cop to being Elder by any means). I thought it was nice to see young queer men still being cheeky and and using faggot, even in a misspelled way. Respectability is so often required and expected of us now. It was great to see young guys not playing that game and still being subversive

R281 I kinda predict either hook up once they are together again filming or they just ignore each other and are civil and professional but not friends and just both move on since their careers are just going in different directions. Just assuming feelings have changed a bit after so long apart. The ignore option being the most likely. I know he's been offline, but Bash is just not giving me any indication yet that's going to full on promote HS as much anymore and he can easily just be taken home after filming, and he prob barely films. The HS actors are pretty obviously broken up into different cliques anyway.

If I were him I'd get sick of being shit on every time he talks about Ben anyway. Look forward to the premier photos of them standing 20 feet apart. At least their bro hug practice and pretending they barely know each other can come into use now.

R283 Bash doesn't have a record of staying friends with his ex. I think they'll be professional but nothing indicates that they'll be friendly/friends. If Bash had liked Kit's recent post, I would agree.

If anything, I think Joe seems to be unbothered. He even smiled at a fan showing him their t-shirt that Bash made.

R268 He seems to stay friends with every other person he ever met minus that group and the ex. Whatever his new project is I'm assuming he'll make friends there and they will be his new friend group. This isn't meant to be shady, but just seems like he operates.

R286 to be fair his track record is one ex, who he dated for maybe a few months? And didn’t work on the same job as, let alone the same industry. Tbh even if I fucking hated my ex and he did me wrong, if he was the lead of a show I’m on and in marvel I’d probably be careful not to completely burn the bridge. I tend to think they’re both going to use the next few months to do whatever they need to do to get over it, including unfollowing one another and friends and family on priv, rebounding, etc. so they can be professional in the fall. If bash is back for S3, which I’m guessing he is, I’m betting all of his scenes or close to are with Joe. Having to work that out probably already means they’ll try to be on decent to good terms,

I do think bash is “keeping” Connor in the breakup. Him not posting Joe in the photodump after Joe brought him to TS, not liking Joe’s post, etc. a little immature but whatever

Probably. Connor didn't like Kit's either. Though Kit's got more likes from people they know anyway. Amybeth liked Kit's and not Joe's, same with Yaz.

Assuming it was just posted at a time so when they woke up so they saw it.

R271 I'm jumping around a lot because I don't want to watch Alice for too long so I might miss stuff, but here we go.

Mentions "Paris drama", romances are more mature, Kit had French lessons, she's excited for the Isaac asexual/aromantic storyline, she's lucky that she's had so much control, sometimes decisions are made about the show and she has to put up a fight about them, she's still denying that she's drawing Nick and Charlie like Kit and Joe and says that it's easy to keep the comic versions and the TV versions separate, end point is when Nick goes to university, she's still planning Volume 6, season 2 begins "like, a day" after season 1 ends, she relates the most to Elle, if they get to that point in the show both This Winter and Nick & Charlie will be incorporated into the show, Olivia Colman is lovely and humble, Alice doesn't have a cameo in season 2 because it was so stressful, said Bash did a good job with the Ben stuff.

I refuse to do this again.

R292 you’re a hero. Any mention of Joe specifically?

R292 If Alice is smart, she wrote a joke about how Nick (kit) had a growth spurt or else it's going to be awkward. I cannot imagine them filming the fight scene with Ben. That too will be very awkward.

R293 Nothing that I caught. Even with Kit it was just the typical "We switched him over to Nick when he auditioned for Charlie" shit and the French lessons thing because she was specifically asked about any of them speaking French. Barely mentioned either of them given that it was an hour of her babbling.

R292 Why does she keep denying she's taking inspiration. Even freaking MCU takes after the actors who play the characters. The latest Wiccan looks like Joe acting as Charlie.

R295 thanks! Just thought I’d ask, seems odd she’d mention just Ben more than them. But classic alice

R297 She only mentioned Bash because she was directly asked how she felt seeing the Ben and Charlie stuff in the first season. She said it was an important story and that Bash did a good job and that was it. Would have been nice if she also had said that Joe did a good job (given that I thought he did a better job than Bash), but I low-key agree with the theory here that she's resentful about Joe and Kit.

R291 Is there a rundown of who liked which post? I don't follow anyone outside of the cast really, so I don't see any of that and I'm nosy.

Bash gets a lot more shit for playing Ben and fans somehow think he magically writes himself into the show, so it's nice she actually mentioned it.

R299 Kit - bradley, cori, charithra, yaz, alice, tobie, amybeth. Joe - bradley, cori, Kizzy, will, alice, tobie, queen aubrey plaza

Maia does not care about either one of them.

Will liked Joe's, not Kit. Yaz liked Kit's and not Joe and Kizzy liked Joe's and not Kit.

Hot Loewe Guy liked Kit’s, which is only relevant to us but I thought I’d mention it.

R300 Well, lemme finish.

But Young Royals actors liked both. Kit's got liked by Hunter what' his name from Wednesday too and David Furnish. Joe got a Holly like, but nobody else I follow.

Course they both got the blessing of OF Nick.

R300 Kizzy spread the love, liked Joe's but commented on Kit's.

R300 RIP, joe lost Charithra, amybeth, and Connor in the divorce. (Kidding).

Amybeth called joe the love of her life a few months ago on IG. The disloyalty

Joe's got Aubrey Plaza hyping him up now. All the others seem irrelevant when you compare. Bash can keep them.

Bash not liking either is still weird. Feels like a Twilight episode.

He's got Patti too. A whole army of older women.

I also don’t think bash is actually “keeping” everyone. He’s definitely closer to them (I did think Connor was equally close but RIP), so makes sense they’ll stay closer to him, but I’m sure they have no issue with joe

Connor doesn't strike me as someone to take sides as he doesn't come across as petty and is way too grown to do that but who knows.

R307 I kind of thought that he would have liked Kit's, but I guess Kit being transparent about his love of Joe and featuring him in half of the pictures, including solo shots, was too much for him.

R310 to be fair I’m reading into very little here, but he posted bash multiple times (stories and post) after the breakup, didn’t post Joe even after joe brought him to the show, and didn’t like his post. Don’t think he’s a joe hater but I do get the sense he’s taking sides,

I also think it’s pretty likely bash DID just notice joe archiving things and unfollow as a result. Minus his post for rhea and liking Charlie’s pic he’s seemed pretty offline for a while on his main, might’ve been the same on his finsta.

R298 I have no issue with bash, I think those were tough scenes for them and he did well in the movie theatre scene. But even as I thought they weren’t joes strongest scenes, I do think joe clearly outperformed him in both, so yeah would’ve been nice to mention Joe. Maybe mentioning joe and bash together felt too awkward.

A bit of Kit and Joe banter from Pride.

R314 they’re so extremely fond of each other it’s cute

R314 Kit is such a little shit.

R312 Connor's always posted more Bash and seems to love Alice more than both of them, so hard to judge. I hope as a 30 year old man who went through a rough and sudden breakup he's not being petty towards a teenager.

You can tell they've missed each other. They have that sort of banter that's hard to replicate over zoom or phone calls. I bet it was exciting for them to see each other after 6 months and make fun of one another. They'll most likely talk over each other in future interviews from the excitement so I hope they have good interviewers.

Regarding all the “unbothered” stuff, I do agree Joe has handled it maturely but I think if you look at it in a negative or cynical way you could say both have shown “bothered” behaviour. Joe posted and deleted the “slut” story first, (semi) publicly rebounded, archived pics on Insta and finsta first. On the other hand, bash followed Charlie immediately after joe posted nick, he unfollowed joe first, and his sister unfollowed Joe fast. I don’t think either is trying to be a dick or snipe at one another, I think both do have some level of hurt feelings and are trying to move on. joe smiling and waving at the person in the Dino shirt, Bash commenting on the joe tshirt suggests they’ll at least put on a really good face in public - but even more likely to me means that they’re both a bit upset but trying to get over it, and will move on and be fine. Not saying they’re going to be best mates or anything, but doubt either is going to hold a huge grudge.

R317 I agree that I hope that. I’ll also add his own breakup seemed really sudden and hurtful to him, and after about a year or two he and his ex ended up actually friends again. So hopefully having that perspective he’d not only not take sides but also be a good support in them trying to get on good friendly terms.

R318 I’m glad that they didn’t seem to lose any of that bond with Joe abroad. It kind of went the other direction with Joe stealing Kit’s clothes and sunglasses now.

Another angle on joe clocking the Bash tshirt and pointing it out and waving, and then realizing she had the HS book and nudging Kit. He’s super sweet

R322 I imagine that those shirts have to be the easiest way to identify Heartstopper fans in the wild.

R322 Joe seems like someone who just doesn't keep any grudges and is genuinely nice as a person. And this is after the whole Bash's sister unfollowing him in a petty manner mess. If it had been me, I would've been petty and ignored anything related to an ex altogether.

R323 almost certainly. But still sweet of him to acknowledge her and wave instead of avoiding eye contact, which my petty ass would do about a shirt my ex made

Will also say that for all the back and forth of who is and isn’t unbothered, I’ll point out it speaks poorly of neither to say they might be bothered by a long relationship ending, and also speaks poorly of neither to say they’re looking lighter and more relieved after what might have been a hard decision to end things.

On the bothered topic, Lucy making joe a playlist is extremely sweet. If anyone is hearing the full story and about how sad or hard it might be, it’s probably a lifelong friend who is purely his friend, not a mutual, and it’s nice that even an ocean away she’s looking out for him, ditto Nell seeming to really be there for bash

It would be weird if they weren't bothered. I don't get the argument about which is more bothered. I think they've both shown some signs they were hurt by breaking up after 2 years but seem to be doing fine overall.

R327 I think both “sides” are trying to suggest the more unbothered one is winning the breakup somehow? Which I don’t think either are. It was a long loving relationship, that sucks to lose. But they’re also so fucking young, busy as hell, and would be doing long distance for years, and that’s probably a good factor to get rid of. As you said, I’m sure they’re both feeling hurt but both also overall fine

R314 Are my ears playing tricks on me or does Kit call Joe ‘Joe Joe’ when he asks him what his go-to snack is? Very cute if so.

That joe and Kit clip is cute. Think it was very unintentional but the mild Alice shade from joe saying he’s more excited for a mature season is funny. Hopefully Joe, Kit, and David Thackeray managed to explain to Alice how a hickey is made

R329 I think maybe he does. That’s cute. Wonder if it’s kind of a cast nickname for him, tobie has always called him “baby joe joe”

I know they’re sharing a mic, but also enjoying the lack of personal space in that interview.

R333 Those big-ass smiles, no wonder Bash unfollowed.

Okay it's a bit funny if the Croft sibs getting constantly triggered by Joe's IG posts. And I love Bash so I'm not being serious.

Though look at Joe. The ass. The chest. The smile. I'd unfollow just so I wouldn't have to see what I lost.

R335 yeah to be clear bash is hot as hell, and they’re very different types so I can get those more into bash. But for my tastes I cannot imagine not doing anything to be and stay with joe. He is perfect looking

R329 Actually I’ve listened a few times and I’m pretty sure he’s saying ‘Joseph’. Still cute.

i love the banter between the two

Interesting that Kit makes it sound like Paris is just one episode - I would’ve guessed at least 2-3 eps.

R339 what makes it sound like one episode to you?

I thought Paris would be half the season

Weird choice to use Yaz and will on an article about joe and kit

R340 Unless I misheard, he says ‘I’m excited for fans to see the Paris episode’.

You guys remember the director that I mentioned followed Kit a couple of threads ago? Kit just followed him back.

Based on Jeremy tagging both Joe and kit manifesting them both in a gay ass play they drop trou and heavily make out for, and manifesting kit in some project with this other guy

Another Joe and Kit clip

Interested to know if the Industry DLers know anything about the Director, Adeyemi Michael

Trust the gays to get photos of the important features (asses, jawlines, arms)

I'm just excited to see Kit and Joe make out. Their kisses in season 1 were good, very sweet and innocent. I hope the kissing this season is hot. And I hope we actually get to see the hickey scene and not just a cut scene where Charlie has a hickey.

R348 It’s been nice to see content coming from actual gay men. One of the videos is some women/girl’s hysterically screaming Kit’s name and I have such secondhand embarrassment for them. I mean presumably they would say it’s because he’s a bi-con but sounded like straight girls screaming for heartthrob to me. Pretty hilarious considering context

Now I see why Patrick liked Bradley's new post. He looks hot.

Maybe Bash will rebound with Bradley.

R344

Interesting i wonder what the deal with that is. Is it just like an admiration things or is there actually a project in the works?

R345

I think i missed something. where did Jeremy tag both joe&kit

I think Netflix Brazil just followed Kit & Joe unless i am wrong, they weren’t following them before. I wonder if they actually may show up at tudum

R352 Bash will most likely go for another James, Joe, etc

What if Joe auditioned for a play when he was in NYC?

R357 Unless he wants to die from burnout, I don't think he has time to do a play anytime soon.

R345 I’m not sure how I’m the only one who spotted it (and didn’t share it here!) but Jeremy shared Joe’s Fagut post in his stories, with both the boys tagged and ‘smdh’, which made me laugh. Because of the ‘smdh’ which clearly wasn’t serious, I assumed that he met them (but I guess possibly just Kit). He doesn’t follow Joe so it’s funny he shared it at all

R359 Did he shared it because he was criticizing it? Usually 'smdh' means you're annoyed at something.

Fuck it, I meant to respond to R354

R360 I think the fact that Kit follows him and he liked a tweet about it (somewhere upthread) means he was joking

R362 You're right, I got that after reading the comment a second time. Crazy that Joe's story caught the attention of so many people.

R359

ahh that makes sense. did he unfollow kit? he doesnt show up under his following

R364 Yeah, I don’t think he ever followed Kit… I just went to check him out because I saw Kit had followed him and that’s when I saw his story. It seemed a bit strange really but I’m sure it will all become clear at some point

Okay, but I’ve just realised Jeremy follows Will and Yaz so now I have no idea why he would like a tweet but be humourless about the post. Also, two young queer men are absolutely “allowed” to make that joke so it would be fucked of him if he unfollowed them because of that

R366 Kit absolutely needs to stop following every person he interacts with.

Kit actually hasn’t been following every person he interacts with as much anymore, he didn’t follow the guy they were on the float chatting with as an example.

R343 I heard the same at first, but a rewatch with both earbuds and I hear him say episodeS.

R366 I didn't see the Story, but it wouldn't surprise me if Jeremy jokingly wrote the "smdh."

R364 He doesn't, I mentioned that in my original posts (R145 and R146).

R368 I noticed that too. He didn't follow back Bash's play costar or Bash's sister either.

Judging by time zones I think Joe is still in the US, he liked Derek Chadwick’s post from 2 hours ago. Why does every single one of his posts look the same? No personality.

The guy tagging them and saying SMDH was for sure just saying they were unserious in a joking way, not actually being upset about it.

R368 Poor blue shirt guy. He was trying to get their attention bad.

R371 I don't think he's that hot either. Nice body, though I guess random bodies are the right thing to thirst after right now.

But Joe's sleeping schedule will take forever to fix so not sure it means he's still in the US.

R372 I absolutely thought he was joking too. Tbh I would have bought it over here if I’d thought he was being a dick at the time (pissed with myself I didn’t capture it). Just did a double take when I realised he follows Yaz and Will but not Kit or Joe, having shared Joe’s story. But like I said upthread - this seems like one of those connections that will become clear at some point

Joe followed Jeremy today as well (after I noticed Kit following him), so I'm choosing to believe they both went back to NYC together and met Jeremy today. And that they're both auditioning for his gay-ass plays to play love interests, even though that's less likely for Joe with his schedule.

R373 I'm glad that Chadwick has a boyfriend and that it's probably a surface-level thirst for Joe, because Joe deserves a partner that can keep up with his banter and intelligence and Chadwick...does not seem to be that.

R375 Joe definitely didn’t follow him maybe six hours ago when I had a look to see who he was following. Kit followed him about two days ago. They must have definitely met him then. Joe can have lag sometimes on when he gets around to following people. Hilarious he does not follow either of them back

We're not seriously considering that Jeremy was shading them, right? There's no way someone like him, a black fem gay man who writes controversial material for a living, is offended by gay boys calling themselves fags. He's made of stronger stuff than that.

Here's Jeremy calling himself a faggot in a tweet:

R378 nah - I genuinely didn’t even entertain it until I realised he followed Will and Yaz. It was a stupid. Of course he wouldn’t be offended by that - my brain made an unnecessary leap. Truly it’s why I didn’t post it here in the first place - though now I am annoyed it’s lost forever

Joe also just followed a Broadway producer which again makes me think they probably grabbed dinner or something with Jeremy and others

Wondering if Joe just doesn’t use his finsta much/notice bash and his sister unfollowed, or if he noticed but just doesn’t want to unfollow them back. Maybe he thinks it would be petty, idk

R380 Love that they’re making connections with Broadway producers. They both deserve to be on there or on the West End eventually.

R380 pretty early in Atlanta to be on Instagram… not impossibly early but some slight evidence that he might be elsewhere

R382 agreed. Either they’re both being eyed to be in something together, which is exciting and I would absolutely go see, or they’re just close enough that one (I presume kit based on follow times) would take the other with him to dinner with people who cast him. Either way, really nice and great connections

R381 I dunno seems like Joe would try to be friendly at least. It's understandable, but kinda petty on their parts to unfollow someone they knew for years.

R385 an unfollow post breakup is understandable to me if you really need to process or something, but I will never understand people’s allergy to the mute button. Particularly for the sister. Especially here where I’m sure feelings are hurt now but will probably be far less so by October, when they’ll need to work together and fully cutting things off like that may make it more awkward. But maybe (no shade to him if so) bash is one of those people who can’t help but cyberstalk or look at the profile obsessively if he has access so removing that is best.

R383 I’m in the same time zone and am unfortunately up as well. Hopefully Joe is up and in this time zone because he has a photoshoot or something (I’m not giving up on this).

R387 I maintain he has something coming this summer with high snobiety but absolutely need to see him in another photoshoot as well

Shout out to whoever originally linked this account the other day.

R389 going from seeing bash in his play to posting hot pics of Joe and kit together. That fan is doing the lords work

Joe's IG post crossed 1M likes.

R391 really impressive for an account that’s been practically dormant for six months. The power of the gays, Kit and Aubrey Plaza

Not to be a dick about Bash, because I really don’t think unfollowing your ex’s priv while you try to move on is bad. But while they won’t, nor should they, write him out just because he and joe broke up, if he maintains a distance or chilliness that makes filming s3 awkward, it is a show where joe is the lead. And a supporting actor in a small role making filming harder for the lead is far far easier to write out. Tbf, no signs he won’t be able to be professional on the set of s3 thus far but in his shoes I’d be extra cautious

They'll both be professional. Bash isn't an idiot and is aware he's the one in a precarious position and not Joe. I feel I gotta preface and say I really like him and think he's a great guy every time I say something that sounds shady, but he's the one who will have to adjust more than Joe will have to in S3. He'll soon find out how little people actually care about him (fans included) if he's not hanging out with Joe or if things are too uncomfortable filming. Not saying the cast doesn't like him but it's business.

R394 I also feel bad because I don’t want to pile on the guy and I do like him. I’m more a joe fan, but I do like bash. We don’t know what happened - and if the most immature things that he does is thirst follow another twink and unfollow his ex, he’s not doing too bad. But I do think while they’re young and this shit is hard, discretion is the better part of valor and all that. Probably would’ve been a bit smarter to just mute Joe and quietly archive some finsta pics than to unfollow, if only because the latter makes being friends or on good terms again much harder.

R394 I'd be surprised if he wasn't already aware that his relevance to the fandom is due to his proximity to Joe and Kit. Hell, 99% of the Bash-related posts on the Netflix accounts are posts where he's the third with Joe and Kit.

Yeah, that's why I can't help but wonder if there was some ego involved in their breakup. Not that he wasn't always supportive of Joe, but still... Joe's kinda on another level now and Agatha hasn't even been released. He's no longer the nobody from IOM he can take out and show around London and take on vacation to NY. Joe can do it himself. When their relationship started Bash was the one invited to things and the one taking Joe places and that totally changed.

Let's hope Netflix got the memo to lay off those posts.

R397 putting aside the “taking joe to things” dynamic, I do see how being a perpetual plus one would be hard. You want to support your boyfriend, and bash seems to even enjoy the events, but realising he’d always be there as arm candy for things like the emmys, GQ, Brazil, etc. might get exhausting. I don’t know that I think he’ll be overly “mature” about the breakup, but I think he’ll be professional - just think he will distance himself a lot from the cast, probably already have a new guy lined up in the fall his family will latch onto as fast, and go there to work and then come home.

I agree with others no way Alice takes his side though she’s probably too self absorbed to take a side at all, but I do think Patrick prefers bash to joe and I’m curious to see how that plays out

R398 Obviously we don't know if this is part of why the relationship ended but it would absolutely suck if it was, especially given that Joe is such a supportive person no matter what level the other person is on.

Not saying it's easy to be supportive of friends, how Joe does nothing but hype up Kit is really amazing, but probably a bit harder to constantly support your BF when they are off filming their dream job and being invited to big events and you gotta constantly follow them around because you are a minor character in the show they are staring in. Celebs breaking up when one of them gets demonstrably more famous is pretty common. Joe's still pretty unknown to most of the world but I feel he's gonna break out again in a big way

R398 Patrick prefers Bash? Why the hell?

Who knows, but it's pretty obvious he doesn't really care about Joe in the slightest. I think of the two he likes Bash more, though Kit's his true love.

R401 I legitimately think Patrick feels weird competition with joe. He talks nonstop about how he was Charlie irl as a teenager blah blah blah, I think seeing someone else play Charlie and then his projections onto bash and Kit make him like joe the least. His twitter is legit bizarre to look at. He will like anything about Kit, hype bash and Yaz and tobie at random times, and it’s basically blank on joe

Who cares who Patrick likes? Won't change the fact that Joe is the lead.

Anyways, throwback to Euros' tweet about Joe.

R404 agreed it won’t change it. Love that photo. Regardless of who ended what how, I do feel for joe that he has lost an entire London support system. He lived with the crofts, for instance. Bash seeming to want a very clean exit means he’s losing all that too, which is hard for anyone but especially someone so young. Thankfully Kit, tobie, etc. all seem very close to him and happy to rally around him, think those who said he’d be adopted into that group are right

I don’t think Patrick’s liked a Kit tweet since around March, so he seems to have caught wind of people analyzing his likes. He did like a Joe post on Instagram the other day, though.

Bash's close friends and family members will obviously cut off Joe now that their relationship is over and maybe move on to the next curly haired guy Bash dates. But I don't see any of the cast and crew of Heartstopper abandoning Joe to go for Bash.

R405 I'm one of the people whose been betting on Joe being adopted by the Kit/Will/Tobie group. He's obviously really close to Tobie and he's had more time to bond with Will between the play and them playing best friends on the show. I know this hasn't always been the popular consensus (I think the tide shifted on this around the fall), but I've pretty much always thought that Kit clicked more with Joe than with Bash. This is going to sound shady, but it feels like Joe and Kit's personalities are both sharper and wittier than Bash's. Bash comes across more like a golden retriever, for lack of a better way to describe it.

R300 Late as hell, but Murray Bartlett liked Kit’s post.

R407 a cutoff makes sense but it sucks it seemed so fast. A fast ass unfollow from the sister for instance. Joe is handling it maturely anyway

R408 also not shitting on Bash for this but all else being equal, the person who makes the breakup more awkward for mutuals is generally the one who loses them more. Joe had the first rebound but bash did the unfollow. And all else isn’t equal: I do think at least Kit and Tobie are closer to Joe, and he’s the lead they act alongside with more and who doesn’t have a load of other friends in London.

I think Bash will obviously “keep” his close friends understandably but with so many of them also being in the acting field (nell, Amybeth, Isabelle, etc.), while they may be closer to and more loyal to bash, they’re not going to burn bridges or be anything but pleasant to joe

So British Vogue is dropping a pride themed issue with various people. Its been the usual suspects so far, watch someone from HS show up

R411

nvm, just checked. no one from HS

R411 I checked on their site and it looks like no one from HS is featured, which I'm delusionally interpreting as a sign that Kit and Joe are being featured in July or August for HS press.

Joe’s started the Bash purge, the birthday post is gone.

I'm surprised he got rid of that one.

R415 The only reason I wasn't sure if he'd nuke it is because of the stylist and brand credits, otherwise it's the most Bash-centric post on his feed so it seemed like the most obvious one to go first.

Yeah same. Though I figure they are a bit more upset than they are letting on in public pretty obviously. Wonder if the NY pics are next. He's also got a pretty coupley looking pic in his 18th birthday post too.

I think NY might stay since it's so far down. I wouldn't want to look at a cutesy pic of me and my ex on the top of my grid either I guess.

If he just realised bash unfollowed him I can see why. Neither is being petty imo, they both just seem upset and trying to have as clean a break as they can

I will never get over them confirming they are dating by breaking up though. People were wondering if they'd ever come out as a couple not too long ago. Just didn't expect it to be like this I suppose.

R419 It's fucked up but funny. People on here debating if Bash would go to Joe's Marvel premieres and they didn't even make it to the end of Joe's Agatha shoot.

R419 Them breaking up isn't a confirmation though? It's only the ones who always knew they were in a relationship who also know about them breaking up now. Otherwise the ones who used to call them best friends and said that Bash is straight cause he is vague about his sexuality, all this doesn't phase them much.

Gotta laugh at Joe deleting the post the day after the Joe/Bash enthusiasts on Twitter were clinging onto Joe wearing his rings for dear life. Their optimism never lasts very long.

R421 They were already confirmed for anyone who knows, just a bit funny. I guess for those people they'll say they aren't friends anyway. Randomly saw someone mention it on Deuxmoi sub reddit that they had broken up too, which surprised me.

Will they go tit for tat with deleting and unfollowing now? I don’t think either one is being petty but this is a bit funny.

I’m going to take this as a sign that Joe and Kit got to some hanky panky.

R424 I'm hoping they pick up the pace for maximum hilarity.

R425 Kit's photo dump almost looks like a dump after a couple's trip, so vaya con dios.

R424 It seems like they do that. I guess it's Bash's turn to do something now if he unfollowed yesterday and Joe archived more today. Bash also made that Spotify playlist randomly t so it's not like he's without the internet. He's got his work cut out for him with his IG. Nell unfollowed someone but is still following Joe, though wouldn't be too surprised if she unfollows him in the upcoming days/weeks anyway. If she does Joe can finally follow Dua Lipa.

R424 Everyone saying it's a clear break and they're not being petty must be delusional. They're already *supposedly* unfollowing each other on their private accounts and archiving posts after what, 2 weeks? I've seen couples wait months before archiving pictures. I think they are not on the best of terms. Especially after Bash followed a twink named Charlie (hilarious). They are professionals and care a lot about their image so nothing messy is happening on main but I do not believe they are amicable, right now.

R422 Not sure why they got their hopes up. They should wait for the following and until then get over it and accept they aren't getting back together 1) Joe unfollows OF Nick 2) Bash unfollows the random twink 3) they are actually seen together. They can have a party if the sister refollows Joe. Until then it's very very dead but they might still wear shit they got as a couple and Joe probably still has some of Bash's old clothes

R428 They are def being a bit petty. They are actors so I'm not sure things like Joe pointing out a Bash shirt or Bash pointing out a Joe shirt means they are just cool with it all if they are unfollowing and deleting shit privately. I'm not sure it was a calm little breakup but more like a blow out fight they didn't recover from. And I guess they broke up a month ago. I figured it might get a bit more messy (relatively since they are too private for actual mess) when they both finished work and got to actually stew in their feelings about the whole thing.

We should think of the real victim in all this - Alice. Think of her stress!

R428 close to a month. I do think they’re both hurting and probably not happy with one another right now, to be clear. I just think October is a long time off for them to get it together and be amicable or at least fake it till they make it.

R427 I wouldn’t be shocked if nell unfollows Joe but tbh can see all their industry mutuals staying following both. Don’t think she’ll like joes shit or hang out with him but he’s probably the most famous of all their mutuals. In a year he’s eclipsed bash, nell, Isabelle - Amybeth has more followers but hasn’t done much in years. It’s a small industry, burning that bridge over a teen breakup you’re not a part of would be stupid.

R429 I agree at this point seems like a messy blowout fight. Which interestingly tends to mean that while a messy future hookup or getting back together is definite, it’s very possible. Never a good idea but it happens a lot

I'm sure I'll have to eat my words in 5 minutes at this rate, but I'm not getting blow-out fight vibes from Joe at this point. He still hasn't unfollowed anyone on his finsta and only archived the Bash post closest to the top.

R431 gotta disagree. Since Joe archived things first, like immediately after they probably broke up , the IG stories right after, didn't like Bash's posts of his magazine shoot and there's the whole NY trip with his hookup he made obvious enough for Bash's family to notice. Also of course Billy catching strays for random reasons. I sense some saltiness.

What did Billy even do for Joe to unlike his post?

R432 Don't really agree with much of this. Didn't Joe archive posts weeks after the slut Story? And not liking posts by your ex isn't dramatic at all, that's normal. The NYC hook-up thing is irrelevant, they broke up, Joe has no obligation to stay celibate. This goes for Bash as well, by the way.

I think it’s entirely okay to remove posts and still be amicable, but unfollowing seems like a bigger statement.

R434 No. He archived a couple days after that story.

Nobody said he had an obligation to stay celibate. Not sure why you jumped to that conclusion.

R435 I don't see why he would archive and bash would unfollow if they were amicable.

I would unlike my ex’s friends if they were the ones who enabled behavior I deem unacceptable and thus contributed to the demise of my relationship.

R431 I’m not getting blow out vibes from Joe either, nothing that he’s done has been him exercising the nuclear option.

Just bringing this back for no reason because it's hilarious (and sweet) how close they're standing. Wish we had video evidence of this moment too.

R429 Good thing that Ben Hope is an extremely side character. Alice won't have to worry much. She can easily write him off next season and no one will care.

Had to go back and look but he deleted a pic of him and Bash on the 15th. Slut story was on the 12th. RIP to the people who said it was because of the watermark

R440 Here's the picture with their legs, not sure if it was posted.

R442 When was the archiving on his finsta? It seems like he's been clearing out stuff slowly, which doesn't suggest blow-out to me.

I hope someone is saving the pictures of Joe on Bash's IG before they all disappear.

Who knows which side is right. They could be fine and just handling it differently. Bash and fam completely removing any following of Joe so they don't have to see him, I'm assuming he muted him but won't ever unfollow his public account and Joe completely removing any public pictures the two have of each other. Or they could both be mad at each other. Guess we'll never know since they will act like normal if Bash actually shows up at any event Joe's at.

Don't think Bash not touching his IG means much other than he might not want to deal with it yet.

R443 A couple days ago? Think it went Joe deleted on his finsta - Bash unfollowed - Joe deleted more. Stay tuned for the next move.

Joe's instagram account now only has Kit featured in most of the posts.

They are just going back and forth at this point which is a little funny

Not like he ever had any Bash on his IG since the show came out. He barely had to do anything.

R443 Nice, hadn't seen that before. It's even funnier with their full bodies - there's barely an inch of space between them. I wonder if they were passing each other on the float or just chilling in each other's space.

I’m not reading much into Joe archiving that birthday post. Joe’s grid has always been extremely professional and these birthday pictures weren’t very good quality. Him getting a million likes on his first post in six months probably would have motivated him to archive more personal stuff regardless.

Or perhaps Kit is just protective of a dear friend going through a breakup.

R451 He should comfort his good friend Joe with his dick.

The LATAM fans noticed, so word is going to start getting around.

Some of them are trying to reason that he archived it to make his feed look more professional. Good luck with that.

R453 Wild. They should just hope for a messy hookup in the fall and give it up.

R450 Not sure you can read anything into it other than he doesn't want a pic of him and Bash on his IG right on the top because they broke up. He wouldn't have deleted it if they didn't break up though. It's a birthday post with stylist credits on it.

Joe continuing to be active, excited for Olivia’s single.

Now that Joe and Bash is officially done, can we all agree that they were bland as a unit? There's a reason many used to prefer Joe and Kit to them even though Joe and Bash were the real couple.

Nah, they were cute and just kept their shit private. And the reason people liked Joe and Kit more is because they don't realize they aren't Nick and Charlie (not people here, but in general)

I'll admit that seeing Joe put back on his ring gave me some pause. I don't buy the it's expensive argument, because these guys are very wealthy.

My assumption was that Kit acted as a bit of a go between because he's seen both Bash and Joe in person post break up. Maybe Kit convinced Joe to try and reconcile things. Joe very visibly wearing the ring, especially in Kit's IG post, seemed similar to a "love of my life" post the day before a breakup type of thing. If Bash responded to Joe with a "nice try but we aren't getting back together", that could help explain this most recent round of unfollowing and archiving.

They were attached at the hip and always spotted together and seemed very into each other. But they were incredibly boring since they never shared anything after hs got released.

R457 They dated for 2 years and there wasn't a single picture of them kissing out of character. The most exciting picture was a picture of Bash's hand hovering near Joe's ass. Bland as fuck.

R459 Kit strikes me as someone who wouldn't get involved and would support them individually, to be honest. I would guess since it was the first time seeing Joe in half a year he wanted to spend time with his friend instead of meddling in his relationship.

R459 I enjoy this messy speculation.

I’m probably in the minority on this, but I never put stock in those rings the same way everyone else did. I mean, Kit wears a Cartier wedding band. The only jewelry which was 100% couple jewelry to me were the engraved Buzz and Woody bracelet and everything else was speculative.

The Cartier ring is not about it being expensive. It’s a jewelry design icon dating from the 1920s. It’s a fashion thing. Most people wear it for style creds first and meaning second.

R463 Bash started wearing his right after he came back in Jan. I'm sure they were couple jewelry done to not totally match

I do miss Bash’s horny instagram likes, those were pretty telling. But yes, private and pretty boring because of it. Two years is a long time though, they must’ve had a strong bond.

R461 Yeah, I really hope Kit stuck to having fun with Joe instead of dredging up his relationship drama. I’m glad that Joe got to see Kit in the midst of all of this, Joe seemed really happy around him and it looked like they got to do non-work stuff together as well.

R463 have we confirmed Kit’s is a Cartier wedding band? Because I have an identical one I got a few years ago at ASOS.

R459 that seems like a leap tbh, though respect your take. My take is bash ended it or asked for a break and Joe ended it instead In exchange and now he’s a bit upset Joe is publicly looking fine. Everyone wants their ex to look miserable

Both Joe’s and Kit’s Cartiers are “Trinity” rings if you want to look for a match.

R470 They aren't the same ring. Kit' is s a Vendôme Louis Cartier Wedding Ring I'm pretty sure. Joe and Bash's are the same. Just one is a ring and the other a bracelet. Not sure why we are arguing about this though. Bash also took his bracelet off after wearing it for a solid 6 months in the middle of last month. Joe wearing it again meant nothing though pretty obviously.

R459 This sounds like a badly written fanfiction.

R468 Looks like the Vendome Louis band to me.

Joe and Bash as a couple were pretty boring. Also, knew this relationship wouldn't last long when Bash couldn't even be bothered to include his boyfriend in his Pride post from last year.

R463 I highly doubt Cartier would invite Kit to their events and photographed wearing a Trinity inspired ring from ASOS.

While I don’t think privacy is a bad thing and I actually think both genuinely are pretty private, low key people, I’m interested to see how public each is with their next SO. Might be waiting a few years for Joe to seriously date someone else though.

R474 lmao I enjoyed that drama at the time.

He’s been wearing that ring since he was 15, well before his recent relationship with Cartier. It was just a question, didn’t mean to sidetrack. Please resume breakup talk or JoeKit’s USA fuckfest.

Will reiterate a brutal but true take which is that acting is a tough, tough field. I don’t think bashs close friends will take joes side or whatever but I also don’t think any are going to cut him off. No matter how much you love your friend, in an industry you’ve worked in for over 10 years, you’re not gonna alienate someone as big as Joe is who imo is only going to get more famous

R476 I predict you get nothing from Joe at all and will never know who he is dating

The Vendome Louis is still commonly called a Trinity because it has 3 bands of different golds to represent friendship, love and fidelity. Kit has the flat design in white gold, Joe has the overlapping bands version.

I must give Kit credit for letting Joe feel that nothing has changed between them even with all that’s going on. Some sense of familiarity and normalcy must’ve helped. Joe looked happy.

Kit liked Olivia’s post too, I wish we knew where either of them are to know the likelihood of them still being together for press.

R482 I don’t think the guys are actually picking “teams” but given he posted multiple personal pics of Joe, reposted his story, and seemed to take him to an industry dinner while he saw but didn’t post about bashs play, we get a sense of who he’s closer to and/or feels more sympathetic to

Didn't Kit have like, 40 or 44 posts or something earlier today? He's down to 37, what did he archive?

He had 40.

The only one I remember that’s gone is the one he had where he was on Zoom with his friends.

Speaking of IG, Joe got a massive boost on Sunday and the weekend in general. Much more than Kit got for once.

He had 45. He archived these 7 and the universal studios post.

R489 Poor doggo

R489 Bless you, I never would have remembered all of that. The Universal Studios one is the biggest loss, his face on the ride cracked me up.

R488 Both of them should take that as a sign that we enjoy when they're gay as hell and showing personality.

R489 Hope the dog is still alive. R488 Gotta thank Audrey for that repost.

Getting ready for some sort of feature/photoshoot with a profile clean up?

I think it’s probably a coincidence and they’re not together rn anyway but the idea of Joe archiving Bash post unfollow and kit archiving shit in solidarity is so funny

Joe and Kit sitting somewhere discussing what to clean up on their insta.

R494 That or he's helping Joe out by archiving stuff the same day so Joe's archiving comes across more inconspicuous.

R496 Would love it if they popped up somewhere like Brazil for Tudum/more promo. Or LA.

R497 Or some of you are just bored. Don't think they're masterminding their igs like that.

Spending the rest of June popping up in random places fans don't expect would be pretty great.

[quote]Or some of you are just bored.

Well, yes.

my instagram is down so i can’t see anything

R502 It’s fine for me, nothing’s changed so you’re not missing anything right now.

Was Joe's finsta following 240 or 239 yesterday?

R504 240.

He unfollowed someone then. Not Bash's sister though randomly.

R504 Yes, 240. He's still following Bash's sister, so it might be that he unfollowed Bash.

Bash's numbers haven't changed (unless there's another glitch), so never mind on the unfollowed Bash bit.

Guys new project for Joe or is it a typo

R509 I can't find any project called The Sea Beast apart from the animated one released last year.

R509 Film adaptation of Sea Beast? Think it could be a mistake cause I doubt a random page on Instagram will get to know about it before official pages.

R509 Manifesting it to be true Joe would be on a roll.

There's a Sea Beast 2 coming out. Randomly Sea Beast is the most popular animated movie on netflix, though never heard of it.

Also they have British accents in it, soo... maybe a random IG page leaked the news. joe doing VA work would be great.

VA work would also make sense for how little downtime he’s going to have. Doesn’t have to be on location, etc. would love to see him diversifying. Plus I think joe has to my ear the nicest voice in the cast (Kit a very close second). Not to shit on him even more because I do like him but Bash’s was a little nasal for my liking

R514 If it's true, Joe's agents are doing the Lord's work. He's really booked and busy.

Love this unfortunately blurry pic

R515 Kit and Joe have very sultry and smooth voices, surprisingly. Yaz also has a nice voice.

I really like Bash’s voice in Hogwarts Legacy.

I am admittedly biased, in that I like bash but am a way bigger joe fan. But while I won’t begrudge either any pettiness given their age, and don’t think there’s a clear sign either is “unbothered” I will say I think bash seems to be being a bit pettier here. Thirst following someone else only after his ex rebounded, unfollowing and his sister doing so instead of just muting. I buy that he’s just pissed joe publicly rebounded and looks ok, but it’s odd. Tbh though I think it’s probably hard for both of them that the other looks and is putting on a front of being publicly unbothered, no one wants to see their ex smiling and laughing post breakup

I don't think Joe is putting on a front, but YMMV.

It is a little funny that they each choose different moves. Like not one unfollowing and the other following suit. One rebounds, the other has a family unfollow and a thirst follow. One unfollows, the other archives a post. they do seem overall mature but they are still young I guess

Hogwarts Legacy is the best console game in years, too bad that he’s distanced himself from it. I like his voice acting in it.

R521 fair enough, I think he’s not putting on a front in that he’s majorly depressed and faking, but I think it’s close to impossible he’s not sad and hurt to some degree by a 2 year relationship he seemed REALLY invested in as late as may (the visit, bringing Lucy, in bash’s clothes) ending pretty suddenly

R520 How did joe publicly rebound when no one knew they were dating and joe didn't tag OF nick? To the public, no one knows what's going on. And we don't have confirmation that he unfollowed Joe.

It's public to those who pay attention to random shit like this and obviously Bash's sister since she unfollowed the day after

R525 no offense but people nitpicking speculation, which is all this site does, is tiring. If you think bash and Steph didn’t clock nick and the unfollow was unrelated, that’s your right. As is thinking bash’s following and the number of people following joe dropping one the same day is a coincidence. I know what I think but respect you have the right to think otherwise

R524 I'm sure there's some level of melancholy, but Joe really did seem to have the time of his life this past weekend.

They are obviously very good actors. Neither of them is going to let their real feelings show around fans. I'm sure they are compartmentalizing their feelings a lot. I definitely believe that Joe had a great time at DC Pride, but that doesn't mean he isn't also simultaneously dealing with a lot. The same is true regarding Bash. He can put on a happy face for fans after his shows even if he was upset.

When I've dealt with breakups in my own life, distraction has been the best medicine. So, the fact they're both busy is a blessing.

R528 I agree he had a good time; I also think bash had a genuinely good time hanging out with his friends at the beach and meeting fans after the play. Don’t think either is mid depressive episode. Just think both probably do feel some sadness snd hurt

R527 I think people get sensitive about the whole OF Nick thing since Joe got some shit for it, but not sure why people act like nobody in the world figured it out or that he didn't make it obvious to the weirdos like us

R517 The only thing that would have made Pride better is a clear shot of Kit’s cropped top riding up.

R531 I just think people are overdramatizing this whole situation. Nothing substantial even happened. If the majority of Bash's friends unfollowed Joe or Connor blocked Joe, then I would understand.

R529 agree re distraction and that’s also why I think now, when joe is (probably?) done filming and bash is done with the play is why the unfollowing, archiving, etc is coming. Less busy, back home - feelings resurface

R531 I just don’t think it’s bad that Joe “publicly” (you know what I mean) rebounded. As an ex I’d maybe be upset too, but I don’t think he was being a dick about it. Not a pic of them making out, just a subtle nod. If he hadn’t followed nick as basically the only non famous follow recently, I think it wouldn’t have mattered either. It’s all in combination.

R532 or joe showing off his flat stomach and slutty waist better. Kit, crop his shirt too

R532 Joe coulda kept on the tight sweaty t-shirt instead of changing too

R533 It's both. People act like it's literally no big deal and maybe the best thing that ever happened to them and people act like they are crying on the inside constantly.

Obviously it's fine now, but I was reading Ncuti's British Vogue Pride profile and it mentions Kit's coming out. My stomach dropped remembering it all over again. Wish he'd been allowed to come out at his own speed, especially since he was inching out throughout the year.

Cracking up, whoever wrote this wants Kit and Joe to fuck. The title mentioning that they appeared close together, the article opening stating that they're often together on occasions, the picture choices, the throwaway line at the end saying that they've never said they're dating despite the numerous speculation.

R537 That first paragraph is not subtle at all.

R537 who from DL wrote that

R537 Lol that's hilarious - I'm glad it isn't in English though, cos maybe that way it'll slip under the radar a bit. It's fun to lightheartedly speculate in here about whether they're getting it on, but if it starts becoming more widespread with articles etc, I'd hate for Joe and Kit to become aware and start adjusting their public behaviour. Hopefully they just wouldn't care.

R537 I hope this shit doesn’t spook Joe into bro hugs and room for Jesus with Kit. The Come Together photo is great though. Couldn’t have been better composed, with Kit leaning over Joe with that sign above them. Art

R540 kit has favourited or saved (can’t remember which) clear tiktoks shipping them so I don’t think they’re too phased by it. Bash and Joe seemed way more cautious of it

I think if that video of them swaying that got a million views didn’t discourage them, nothing will. And yeah, like R542 said Kit is clearly aware of it, and I’m sure Joe is as well given that they’ve both active on TikTok and that’s where it’s the craziest.

Post breakup, the fan accounts haven’t really acknowledged it but have gone a little feral re joe and Kit and more or less ignored Bash. Minus the few bash dedicated accounts of course. Quite funny

Netflix does not care about the breakup and are blissfully using joe as Charlie to talk about how great relationships are. Funny

I’ve always gotten the impression they think the JoeKit shipping is funny, mainly because it’s obviously not true. If their relationship changes now that Joe’s single maybe it will also change the way they feel about the shipping. But given their senses of humor, I expect they’ll continue to enjoy laughing at idiotic fans.

I know we’ve all seen the interview clip but pretty good summary of their dynamic, I really like how much fun they have together

R547 I'm impatient and just need all the season 2 promo to start now, so we can enjoy their dynamic even more.

R547 Joe’s little laugh at the beginning is great.

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R549 joe is generally really fucking cute. Always agree withKit in this interview, (8 min in) joes puppy eyes in the show were great

R550 I’m a tragic that watched that clip more than once to see if Kit says Joseph or Joe Joe. I’m against the crowd here - convinced it’s Joe Joe. Will die on that hill

R552 I’m torn, sounds more like joe joe but Kit does call him Joseph a lot. Cute either way

R552 Haha, I'm also tragic then - sound wise, it could be Joseph or Joe Joe, but mouth movement wise it looks much more like Joseph.

Patrick finally liked Kit’s post, hasn’t liked Joe’s.

R555 for all I think he likes bash more, I think for the sake of his job he’s not going to be team “not the lead”. But shit like this does make me wonder

R556 It's just a like, wouldn't worry about it. Also, looks like the show will compete with Red, White, and Royal Blue for viewership. I'm sure Alice is enraged.

R557 They need to make Joe and Kit all out to promote the second season cause their chemistry is something that will definitely work in their favor.

R556 He wouldn't be able to side with Bash in any way that matters. Netflix isn't going to allow a very minor actor to be prioritized over the Emmy-nominated lead that is one of the main draws and busts his ass promoting the show. Alice is too neurotic to allow anyone else to change the storylines.

R557 RWRB is rated-R and on Prime, I doubt it'll touch HS numbers.

R557

Prime Video things have never really gained that much traction so i wouldn’t be too worried about it.

R559 I don’t think he’ll minimize joes role, but in terms of on set dynamics making joe feel weird or excluded, I don’t know. Obviously I have no idea though

Speaking of prime, when the fuck is bash’s movie out? Have heard nothing about it

R552 I think it's Josef just because that seems to be what Kit calls him.

R561 I don't think the rest of the cast would allow it and I think Joe's become more confident to the point where he wouldn't allow it, either.

R561 On Imdb it says post-production. Who knows.

R562 I know he definitely calls him Joseph but as I said, I’ll die on the JoeJoe hill. I watched the clip more than I’ll admit…

I know I shouldn't laugh at people being this in denial, but I can't help it. Read the room!

I imagine these are the kind of people that get a 200 on the SAT Verbal section in high school. Can’t figure out context clues for shit.

Rally weird for that original Asa account to tweet that, but guess at least they’re not in denial. The last person though… as others have said, the only semi healthy level of denial is manifesting a messy hookup and second try on the set of s3. They’re clearly done

It’s funny that RWRB and HS keep racing one another for things. Announcements a day apart I think, coming out a few days apart, seems like the trailer or a teaser is maybe dropping tomorrow and one for HS saturday

R569 They will 100% ride on Heartstopper's success and relevancy to hype their movie. I see 0 chemistry between the leads, but we'll see.

Like this random man, I too would not be able to look away from joe at Pride. He and Kit need to be 1. In a gay play together 2. Show their asses and dicks for art

R566 worse than the people in denial are the people still implying it’s joes fault. Nothing has shown it’s anyone’s “fault”, just a mutually upset breakup. They need to chill

I'm sure posted, but the chips and guac thing was funny.

Also think in the interviews this time around, aside from increased banter and touchiness, we will see Kit hyping joe more. Round 1, pre show, they had no clue Kit would become way more popular. You can see in things after the show came out that Kit made an effort to hype Joe back and say nice things about his performance and skill, I think partially because he didn’t love that he got so much more attention than joe. So I expect to see more of the mutual love fest this time

R570 If they don't have any chemistry in the trailer, the movie's going to be DOA.

Anyway, so my comment isn't completely off-topic, here are two sets of perfect, bratty lips.

Dead at the fanart censoring Kit’s shirt. They hate queer male sexuality so damn much in that fandom

R575 both glorious but Jesus Christ, Joe’s lips. Both the colour and the shape. Perfect. They also both have great jawlines and cheekbones, and are clearly charming as fuck. Everyone who has met them irl gushes over them like crazy, including more famous people

R571 I noted that guy checking Joe out on the float in some shots but didn’t want to be that guy speculating about the older navy guy being into twinks… thank you for allowing me the freedom to say exactly that.

R578 I think he posted a photo with both but I think his interests were clear. Both Kit and joe are fucking gorgeous so I see a shout for either but as someone into darker hair and twinks… I understand you fully, navy man.

R579 again, not to be that gay… but he seems the type. I say this as a totally different age bracket to that guy and also a massive fan of Joe’s assets

R575 Pretty sure it's DOA with the target audience because they made too many changes to one of the characters.

Not the same Navy guy, but I appreciate them for providing some of the best pictures.

I like the HS show a lot better than the HS books, so it's possible for a movie adaptation to surpass the book. But RWRB is not a good book. So, I have extremely low expectations for that movie.

R582 the first pic - Kit does not believe in giving joe personal space. I understand you fully, Kit.

The last pic, joes jawline is truly insane. Kits too, But harder to see there.

Hopefully Joe continues wearing his own tight shirts and shorts during all of promo but steals more of kits sunglasses and jackets.

R581 who is the target audience?? Queer media seems to be hyping, but my understanding is that genre of book is really for women. Agree with others that the guys seem to lack even basic chemistry.

R582 That third picture looks like Joe has his arm pressed to Kit's torso. Into it. Here's the other tweet which includes another picture from the same sequence.

R581 They apparently removed one of the main character's entire "realizing he's bi" arc and then either removed or merged other characters. Sounds like a trainwreck.

RW&RB is going to be terrible. The actors are straight, have no chemistry, and are too old. They’ve also changed huge characters in the story for seeming no reason. They are just hoping to ride the Hearstopper hype because I assume the review will be rough.

R585 Women. Alex already knowing he's bisexual and having an ex is getting a lot of shit. They changed a lot about the character. Also read they combined his ex and his sister, so no ex-gf but only an ex-boyfriend.

R587 The brunet is gay, he's been in a relationship with another man for over a decade. No clue about the blond.

R589 a decade? Aren’t these guys playing teenagers or at least very early 20s?

R589 who is the other man? Need another hot youngish gay couple to root for now that Joe and bash are done

R590 They're supposed to be, Taylor Zakhar Perez is 31 and Alex (the character he's playing) is a college senior in the book.

R591 Pretty sure it's this guy.

Is OP around? How long was your timeout? I know some poor DLer copped strays from Muriel and got a more than 24 hr ban even without starting the thread.

R593 miraculously didn’t get one. She’s thrilled to hear bash and joe are done. Maybe she’s the mysterious anti joe user missing from bash’s thread

Emergence Films deleted the Joe picture with the Sea Beast thing from their post.

R595 interesting, I can’t decide if that makes me believe it more or less. Leaning more, it’s such a random detail to get wrong.

R594 I wonder if I got your ban instead? I got a 30 hour ban when I made the previous thread and not this one. Got 24 hours for that one. Maybe the time out grows if you make more than one thread in a row.

Here ya go, fellas. I’d say keep it tidy, but who am I kidding…