High School Hottie Missing in the Bahamas

Was he a pitcher or a catcher?

He is not really that good looking: therefore we at The Datalounge are indifferent to his fate.

His father is a cutie (I think that's him in the picture in the link).

This is the fate of another Zoomer taking 'a dare'.

He's the one on the right. Cookie-smelling potential for sure. Sad!

[quote] Cookie-smelling potential for sure.

Not anymore.

Aww he was cute. The father is repulsive.

Dead.

He had a little sugar in him..

Darwin award

He had a wonky face, but he couldn’t swim forever.

This is why you cannot pay me to dip my toe in an ocean, let alone swim in one AT NIGHT.

Got too drunk

Natalee Holloway he is not.

Helix Studio has another angel.

"Great head of hair", but not a lick of common sense.

There's doing stupid things while drunk, and then there's jumping from a boat into the ocean...

I can't imagine the parent's. grief.

“ . . . the parent's. grief.“

Oh, dear.

Geez - he must have been so drunk he couldn't get to the life preserver they threw to him.

r17 I don't think so, something obviously snatched his leg, you can see it in the video. If you drown from being too drunk, you don't just sink underwater in a split second.

May Julian Sands take care of him on the beyond.

my goodness, was he NUDE?

My three godbrothers all went to that school from PK-12, and kids from there are extraordinarily close because their numbers are so small.

What a fucking tragedy. And it is why my parents drilled into us NO dare games, NO practical jokes. Things can go sideways so quickly.

[quote] “That’s a special kid… He’s an athlete, great kid, great smile, great head of hair. Just one of the kids you’re so proud of when they cross the stage.” - Lab School Director Kevin George

I think someone has a crush!

I think sharks may follow boats especially at night because people throw scraps of food into the water. I remember seeing sharks circle a pier in Myrtle Beach to snatch the fish the fishermen caught.

It’s always extra sad when a man with a beautiful head of wavy hair dies.

Well at least he won't have to continue in life with those tinynips.

No mention if his college plans? None too bright

If his college plans were abruptly halted, R26?

They do, R23. Cruise ships release bilges of waste, including food waste, so sharks have learned to follow them in anticipation of the food. Kid is dead.

Shark!

He’s probably with Austin and Perry the Florida boat boys R19.

NOT: hot

Definitely: reckless. As boys are at that age.

One of the few benefits of having seen JAWS in the theatre at 10 is that I grew up terrified of going into large bodies of water.

It’s easy to criticize the poor kid for doing something impulsive, but that goes with youth. The older I get, the more cautious I am.

It would be one thing to do this during the day, but at night? A really bad decision.

I have a weakness for young baseball players in pinstripe pants.

Taking someone up on a stupid impulsive dare often ends in tragedy.

I’d bet a hundred dollars that this was an unchaperoned trip.

Any parent who allows their 18 year-old, recent high school graduate go on an unsupervised group trip with other teenagers to a foreign country for what was obviously a booze-filled party trip is foolish.

The story of the two teenage boys referenced earlier in this thread. They’ve been missing 8 years now.

Wow that boy above has great hair too. Coincidence????

[quote] I have a weakness for young baseball players in pinstripe pants.

Did you see his ass?

R38, rather flat even pre incident.

R27 no—if he’s the bright shining light as described, he would have been on his way to college in the fall.

R37, the boy above on the left looks like a Monchhichi, a hairline is of Guidicean proportions. Those boys were reckless as well, probably not because they were drunk but because they sailed into a bad storm on a very small (for ocean fishing) boat. They should have checked the weather before leaving.

Looking at OP’s boy’s baseball pictures, he doesn’t look like he’s wearing a cup, which is odd because all of my baseball friends wore cups, unlike my football friends. Even with a puny cocklet, you’d have a bulge with a cup.

[quote] the boy above on the left looks like a Monchhichi, a hairline is of Guidicean proportions

I believe you're trying to say GIUDICEAN proportions.

As in Teresa Giudice and her ape-like family.

R42, you are better wordsmith than me, but you understood my meaning.

[quote] Wow that boy above has great hair too. Coincidence????

At R36?

Sorry, but NO.

Sad story, but not as sad as it could be.

He had the rest of his life in front of him....right in front of him.

If he were bald would we care? Would anybody care?

You can be callous and make funny jokes and comments, but I find this awfully sad. I bet his parents really love him, and his friends. Any one of us could've done something stupid at age 18, or when young and drunk, that led to our death. The fact that there's no body, and likley will never be, adds to the nightmare for the family.

R36 Wait they were fishing for dolphin fish right? They weren't on an expedition murdering actual dolphins. OK, I feel sorry for them.

[quote] The story of the two teenage boys referenced earlier in this thread. They’ve been missing 8 years now.

There was an epic thread here about that.

The slo-mo replay at the end of that video at R7 clearly shows a shark attacking him.

[quote] clearly shows a shark attacking him.

Possibly but not clearly. That might just as easily have been light reflecting on the waves

Any parent who allows their 18 year-old, recent high school graduate go on an unsupervised group trip with other teenagers to a foreign country for what was obviously a booze-filled party trip is foolish.

Girl he’s 18 you can’t stop them doing anything by that age.

He is swimming pretty casually then disappears suddenly under the water. It does seem like something dragged him under because he wasn't struggling.

There is clearly a massive shark in the water

Swimmer on the lower right

Water is breaking where head and tailfin of shark are

R28 the Disney World alligator death was thought to have been exacerbated by Disney’s decision to build Maldives-style villas over its lake at the Polynesian

These villas are very expensive.

Wealthy people who stayed in these villas were instructed not to throw food in the water or attempt to feed alligators.

Wealthy people, being who they are, were like “Ooooh a challenge!”

They trained the alligators to look to be fed. Disney had not had an alligator incident in Seven Seas Lagoon (which has been lined with resorts with beaches since the 70s) until they built the villas.

Enhanced a bit more

This is absolutely terrifying

Do people not watch my old stuff anymore?

r36 The kid on the right had his skin completely ruined by the sun, he looks like an old man in that photo. It's honestly for the best.

R52, of course they couldn’t physically bar him from going but just because he is legally an adult doesn’t mean the parents have no say. They have the power of the purse.

I would double the bet I made previously and say that the parents paid for the trip. This trip was booked several months in advance, if it was like most vacations, and graduation gift money doesn’t start pouring in until closer to the end of school. He very likely didn’t work to earn his own money because he played sports and was from an affluent area.

If you don’t want your child going on a binge drinking holiday, don’t pay for it.

[quote]I bet his parents really love him

You think?

Do parents really love their children considering all the abuse that goes on or was it just something Louis B Mayer started in his day at MGM like the Oscars.

Omg R54 and R56 those photos are terrifying!!!

Poor kid.

This is why on Bravo's "Below Deck" they tell guests that they're not allowed to swim at night.

Remember that one guest who didn't listen to Captain Lee, and jumped in the water any way?

He kicked her off the boat.

At the time, I thought she was funny, but now I see that the captain did the right thing.

He would be responsible if she got eaten by a shark.

[quote] Definitely: reckless. As boys are at that age.

Not many do what he did.

Nice ass. Hope they find him safe and sound.

He was EATEN ALIVE, you pea brain!

Based the video and the stills above he got caught up in the wake off of the bow and, because it was a big boat, it pushed him under. That does not appear to be a shark in the water. The still shows what is, in shape, position, and angle, the wave created by the bow cutting though the water. A boat of this size probably has a deep draft and it would create a lot of turbulence as it sailed.

R67 =

Nice theory about the wake but they filmed him lounging in the water for a little bit. A moving boat would have quickly left him far behind.

The parabola-like surface ripples are caused by the shark turning around

That’s how they turn around

I have a lot of experience with boats and barges, and drunk people being drug under currents surrounding them. Young drunk guys jumped into the river off of a dock in front of my riverfront house with a non-moving barge directly beside in a tidal river, twice, and died.

I’m just giving you my non-expert opinion on what appears to me to be happening here.

I’ll add: we couldn’t get the tourist boat and barge to move so we eventually closed the dock and dismantled it to stop the deaths happening.

His ass will be so bloated after spending so much time in the water!

He had a hot ass, but it couldn’t melt in my mouth forever.

Damn you, Ariel!

I am not convinced there is a shark in the water, though that wouldn't surprise me. The splash off to the left seems to be made by the rope attached to the life ring tossed into the water, though I can see how some think it is a fin or the movement of a shark turning in the water. I wish there was more/different video. Surprised there isn't, considering how much kids of that age are tied to their phones and filming everything.

Rest in water.

R2 That was the most boring dead teen’s Instagram I have ever seen.

On the bright side, I’m sure that he learned his lesson and he will never do that again.

R79 Yup

Just read it was shark infested waters. This really gives me the creeps.

Lucky shark got a piece of dat ass

I can’t imagine jumping off a cruise ship. How did he expect to get back in the boat???

R83 like all teenage jocks, I’m sue he assumed he would rise out of it à la Busby Berkeley,

That shark was like, "Darwin sends his regards."

It looks like he swam toward--and then quickly turned away from--the life preserver. I would assume it was a "Feets don't fail me now" moment.

I always wished I could have been more spontaneous, reckless and mirthful when I was a teenager, but alas I was self-conscious and neurotic and never a true boy doing daring life-endangering boy stunts. Anyway, I’m still here and at least I didn’t fall off a balcony or get eaten by a shark.

University Laboratory HighSchool? What a strange name for a school

University Laboratory High Schools are pretty common. Are you not from the US?

What is strange about it? There are dozens of similarly named schools in the U.S.; the name is derived from the fact that many universities’ graduate school of education would establish and operate an affiliated primary or secondary school as part of their Ph.D and master’s programs

Not strange in the least

Why do you think he turned and swam away from the life preserver? Did he see the shark there?

He definitely saw the shark there. It must have been absolutely terrifying. Even more so than the first death in Jaws.

People probably had been throwing food overboard, 'chumming' the water. The only reason sharks would be following a boat.

A friend told me about this video last week and I didn’t want to see it. Yesterday it appeared in my feed, so guess what - I watched. It is haunting.

Yes, that is a shark. Likely then, multiple sharks.

Where's the video, R95?

Dear God, this is my very greatest fear. I refuse to even wade in the ocean anymore. I used to love it as a kid, but then I became obsessed with sharks -- mostly reading about them and then watching everything on PBS that focused on them. They are gorgeous killing machines. Very rarely with humans, but with other sea life they are like Kali descending from above.

If it were a shark, wouldn't there have been blood in the water?

That would assume the shark bit him in half on the spot. It may have snatched him and pulled him underwater to drown him.

Looks like one got his left arm and another got his left leg. He screams in agony, and goes from a horizontal swimming position to vertical in the water, then pulled under.

The video shows a person dying from a shark attack. It is horrifying.

While I’m not a believer in the shark theory, I have to ask…

R99, the shark snatched him with what, his hands? The very nature of a shark bite is that they tear into flesh. Their teeth are serrated, made to rip not cut.

Yeah R99 you’re right and that’s what happened. After they bite, taking off a limb or two, they pull the prey under water with their mouths and finish it. No hands involved, duh.

Mary @ r100 calm ur tits.

Ain't no such thing depicted on the video.

Tony Woodward's explanation is the most credible.

No way. Team shark.

Interesting enough, sharks are so terrifying to us because we have a genetic memory of when we little monkeys coming down off the trees and we had to be aware at all times of a giant pair of jaws coming for us.

In fact, part of the reason the anatomically incorrect shark in the famous Copley painting (should not have nostrils) is so terrifying is because that’s what we remember from our monkey past. A giant face (with nostrils) lunging toward us.

r98. It was pitch dark. No one would see blood and by the time the sun was up there wouldn't be anything. It's the ocean!

The designers of the Jaws poster struggled to create a design that communicated the horror of the shark until they placed the point of view facing the shark’s bottom side.

The shark is one of the most terrifying things to see from a psychological perspective.

[quote] Looks like one got his left arm and another got his left leg. He screams in agony, and goes from a horizontal swimming position to vertical in the water, then pulled under.

[quote] The video shows a person dying from a shark attack. It is horrifying.

Where is the fucking video that you asshole liars are all talking about???

Sensationalist lying cunts!!!!

You cunts deserve a FF for lying and not providing any video footage.

Fucking cunts.

There is one frame where you can clearly see the shark’s head breaking the water.

The shark is turning around like this:

Here you lazy cunt

"He definitely saw the shark there. It must have been absolutely terrifying. Even more so than the first death in Jaws."

Are you saying that actually getting eaten alive by a shark in real life is more terrifying than pretending to get eaten alive by a fake shark in a movie?

There was no shark in the video at R110.

Just as suspected.

I mean that Chrissy never saw the shark before it attacked her. It attacked her from below.

[quote]Looks like one got his left arm and another got his left leg. He screams in agony, and goes from a horizontal swimming position to vertical in the water, then pulled under.

Shark, is that you?

I hope he didn't die a virgin.

He didn’t. He was totally fucked.

I can’t imagine being a family member, like his parents, have this video online for the rest of their lives and it showing their son’s death.

One time I was treadimg water at the club, and Joe Biden came up from below and put two fingers in my hoohoo.

Then there's that one drunken teenager, seeing the shark circling, catcalling, "Bye - bye!" [italic](shiver)[/italic]

Must be booze is legal there for 18 year olds? The parents knew it was a booze cruise, but I guess if your son is 18 he is an adult

I used to work at a college where I addressed disciplinary issues. Parents seem to be okay with their "youngsters'" bad behavior until they get into trouble. Then they call our office, pleading or threatening. I remind them students are legally adult when they are eighteen years old.

Then more pleading and threats. Accountability is not something taught in these families. Then lawyers get involved and the parents are told there is nothing they can do but discipline their "youngsters".

Sharks gotta eat too

I pray his parents don’t live in Houston

R121, did you issue any bare assed spankings?

Wonder if the shark was coughing up hairballs with all thos curls.

Helpful drawing, [R109]. I finally see the shark because of your drawing. It is convincing.

This video has also been posted.

Best clip showing the shark breaching the surface in slow mo

It was a Tiger shark, look at the size and also the prominence of the tail fin.

Tiger shark second most dangerous shark.

Have any shark experts analyzed the video?

More clips of the 'shark' and the pirate sunset cruise he was on:

[quote] Have any shark experts analyzed the video?

Yes, and they're developing training videos for other sharks in the area.

I think this pretty much sums up the video

Right after he jumps in you can hear a girl scream, Cameron run there’s a shark! She was likely drunk which is probably why she said run instead of swim.

The sharks got tired of this

People ALWAYS say that kids are generally reckless and “this could be any of us” as if all acts of recklessness are the same. The vast vast majority of teens wouldn’t do this. Nevertheless it sucks and it’s terrible.

He want to get his duck sucked that night, at some point. The shark sucked him down under like nothing he ever dreamed of.

*dick

Fuck this blue comment box for real…🧐

He took his duck with him on the trip?

suicide oiviously

These sharks look about the same size as the one in Cameron's video. Four miles off Florida, so same general vicinity as the tour boat.

They're small, but ferocious and aggressive.

This was in the daytime.

Can you imagine them at night, which is their usual feeding time?

Sharks are so fascinating

Maybe my eyes work differently than most but all of the slowed down videos posted above that “absolutely” show a shark don’t show signs of anything of the sort. It’s like the vast majority of people have never been in the ocean, on a boat, seen someone swim, or even seen a wave!

I like to believe he was eaten by a shark

Damn you, Ariel! I said there was something wrong with those eyes!

[quote] One time I was treadimg water at the club, and Joe Biden came up from below and put two fingers in my hoohoo.

Oh good lord, that is terrifying

Poor kid.

Always look first before you jump into the ocean.

NY Post is calling it "shark infested waters," and this video seems clearer than most, where you can actually see some kind of creature appear.

I never realized the waters in the Caribbean were so dangerous.

I was always told never go swimming at night. Too bad teens are so dumb.

R144 get your eyes checked and stop finger wagging at all the people who can actually see

Why is being eaten by a shark at night worse than being eaten by a shark in the daytime?

It’s the fear of things that go bump in the night?

^except then they eat you.

I’d rather get eaten by a shark at night i think they’d enjoy it more

The waters off Athol Island, where 18-year-old Cameron Robbins was last seen swimming after jumping off the Blackbeard’s Revenge sunset cruise on May 24, are “really shark-infested,” Royal Bahamas Defense Force (RBDF) Commodore Raymond King told the Daily Mail on Tuesday.

Sharks feed at night. They hangout near cruise ships because food, waste, etc are dumped into the ocean.

My boyfriend and I were in Acapulco and chartered a boat to deep sea fish. We were anchored and I was sitting on the top deck watching him fish when I looked down and saw a shark, about 12’ long and 3’ wide, right beside our boat. He stayed there about 5 minutes then slowly swam away. It didn’t freak me out; sharks live in the ocean.

The odds of getting killed by a shark are like a bazillion to one, but those odds go way up if you are swimming near a boat at night.

The young man jumped into a teem of sharks. Very sad and disturbing.

Some lucky kid waitlisted at LSU is getting a belated admission offer!

[quote]Something obviously snatched his leg, you can see it in the video. If you drown from being too drunk, you don't just sink underwater in a split second.

Yes, it seems like, before he disappeared, he wasn't struggling at all, was swimming without difficulty, and the water looked very calm.

r161 Even if the water wasn't calm, you just don't disappear like that underwater in a split second. Which was my whole point, you dumb bitch. It was obviously a shark.

[quote]Which was my whole point, you dumb bitch. It was obviously a shark.

Calm down, Mary!

Poor kid. I know it's morbid but I hope a corpse is found because it would give the family closure. Having a loved one missing is just too painful because there's hope they could survive even if it's slim. I'd much rather know the person is dead and grieve.

Dear Meemaw,

Did you see that kid get eaten by a shark on Fox News?

Well I just got admitted to LSU. It’s more expensive than community college, so please send a check. Thank you.

Your grandson, Brady Jade

It's sad, but, hottie?

Did no one even try to stop him?

I read somewhere that at least a couple of his friends tried to stop him.

This was posted on another thread:

Q: How did they know that the girl from "Jaws" had dandruff?

A: They found her Head & Shoulders on the beach!

This made me cry. His folks sound like nice people. This whole thing just sucks.

I bet the person who made the dare feels pretty good right now.

Who knows if he started it. He may have dared somebody to do something. And then they dated him to do something more.

At least that is sometimes how it worked when I was a kid.

Thanks for the link, R170. They seem like a nice family.

It was mentioned that Cameron was adopted shortly after he was born.

The family is asking for any donations to go to an organization in the same location as where he was adopted. I wonder if the organization facilitated Cameron's adoption? A telling choice.

[quote]I know it's morbid but I hope a corpse is found because it would give the family closure.

You *do* know I turned it into poo, right?

In all fairness, this could have happened when he was at home.

So much promise ends with one dumb impulsive action.

That's interesting R173.

Cameron actually looks like he's related to the rest of the family.

Probably should have went with the fellatio on a coke bottle dare.

R173 So they didn't know his background and that he has terminal dareitis in his family tree

Holy shit, R162, why did you call me a dumb bitch when I wasn't disagreeing with you? But that said, I can't see the guy "disappearing in a split second" in the video. At what point do you see that happen?

Someone has a really vested interest in this being a shark attack and can't fucking take any dissent. That video is shitty and ambiguous. Why does everyone have to agree it was a shark? And being fucking needlessly antagonistic about it isn't going to win anyone over. It was so NOT a shark. How's that?

R181 =

R181 watch the video at R150.

You'll see it.

R183 I'm not saying it wasn't a shark but calling someone a dumb bitch because they don't see something in a crappy, dark, video isn't going to make them come to your side. I'm just shocked this was a three hour tour type thing, this dumb kid wasn't even on an actual long cruise before he did this crazy shit. He wouldn't have been long for this world.

Teens do stupid things.

This one just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Case closed!

It could have been a bull shark.

Check out this huge shark swimming right up to the water's edge in the Bahamas.

He had a hot ass.

That is all.

Things would have ended up differently for him, if he had let ME adopt him.

I'd never let him out of my sight!

[quote]Blackbeard’s Revenge sunset cruise

Well, I guess Blackbeard got his Revenge.

[quote] Sharks are so fascinating

Earth is a planet optimized for sharks.

The earliest evidence of shark fossils dates back as far as 450 million years, which means these creatures have been around at least 90 million years before trees and 190 million years before dinosaurs.

It's called MEGALODON.

You have officially blown my mind, R191. At least 90 million years before trees!?

[quote] Earth is a planet optimized for sharks.

What does this mean?

ummmm...water?

just a guess.

He meant how else could they survive through so many iterations of planetary life.

[quote] Earth is a planet optimized for sharks.

[quote] What does this mean?

[quote] ummmm...water?

Then that would apply to all sea life, and not just sharks.

If only those sharks had eaten Katy Perry at R198, instead of Cameron.

Couldn't agree more,r199!

Two things:

1) If it is common knowledge that those waters are "shark infested", I truly hope that some announcement was made to everyone on the ship before or when they first boarded. That would be some serious dereliction if they do not (not in a legal sense, I don't think.) I wonder if there is some kind of written warning/release that is distributed to all passengers. Of course, if they do warn, Robbins was unbelievably stupid.

2) Sharks are everywhere, and it doesn't look like that will change anytime soon; probably get worse. We now have many sharks around Cape Cod. Many. There are also growing numbers around Long Island, NY.

[quote]...located on the Cape, which has become home to one of the largest concentrations of great white sharks in the world. The sharks come to feed mainly on gray seals that have recovered to number in the tens of thousands in Southeastern Massachusetts, particularly on Chatham’s Monomoy islands.

They come very close to shore so the idea of swimming off Cape Cod is now a gamble and less and less people will even venture into the water.

Solutions, such as culling the food source, are dismissed as inhumane. Forget any idea of eliminating the sharks.

We have the Atlantic White Shark Conservancy.

[quote]OUR MISSION - Support scientific research, improve public safety, and educate the community to inspire white shark conservation.

[quote]WHY WHITE SHARKS? - White sharks are apex predators that play a critical role in maintaining a healthy and balanced marine ecosystem. They are also considered a keystone species, meaning they are integral to the ecology they inhabit.

Many living here are not in agreement about the absolute reverence for seals and sharks. Lots of snowflakes up here.

[quote] If it is common knowledge that those waters are "shark infested", I truly hope that some announcement was made to everyone on the ship before or when they first boarded. That would be some serious dereliction if they do not (

Exactly what I was thinking, R201.

A major lawsuit.

However, can Americans sue a Bahamian company IN the Bahamas?

[quote] Sharks are everywhere, and it doesn't look like that will change anytime soon; probably get worse. We now have many sharks around Cape Cod. Many. There are also growing numbers around Long Island, NY.

[quote] They come very close to shore so the idea of swimming off Cape Cod is now a gamble and less and less people will even venture into the water.

That's scary.

But do people actually swim in the cold water off Cape Cod? And how close to shore do the Great Whites come?

R203 yes. Would that lawsuit have any merit: not at all.

This legal adult made a bad choice. Who would they sue - the shark?

Sue the company for not posting warnings about shark infested waters, R206.

It's a simple thing for the company to do, and will prevent stupid young people from doing what Cameron did.

A small thing that saves lives.

The company has a responsibility to warn guests.

No it does not. He assumed the risk; that’s a long-standing doctrine in common law.

R204

Close enough that some people are no longer even wading. This is also affecting the beaches in Provincetown, - the Cape Cod National Seashore, Herring Cove Beach and Race Point Beach. There are still plenty of gay men and lesbians sunbathing, but less so frolicking in the water.

From the Cape Cod Times [quote]It’s not like we didn’t suspect it was true, but a new study by the state Division of Marine Fisheries, Atlantic White Shark Conservancy and Arizona State University researchers revealed that sharks visiting Cape Cod spend nearly half their time here in shallow waters that are also used by millions of waders, body surfers, swimmers and others each summer and fall.

There are a number of YouTube video examples.

R207 how would that work since no one can even prove he was killed by a shark?

Oh lord.

That's it, R209.

I don't ever want to go in the water again.

R204

I forgot to answer this:

[quote]But do people actually swim in the cold water off Cape Cod?

The answer is yes. In and out. Lots of visitors to the Cape swim in the ocean and the Bay. The bay is a bit warmer. But when gay men haul their asses up to Provincetown to vacation, they're gonna want to get in that water. Even though the odds for one person are low, the odds of it happening to someone are increasing, so even vacationers are paying attention.

I'm the poster that questioned whether people were warned about shark infested waters, but I did caution that it wasn't necessarily legal negligence. Though I suspect his parents may try to sue, even if all they expect is that they'll be paid off by the company.

At some point people have to take responsibility for their actions.

[quote] R207 how would that work since no one can even prove he was killed by a shark?

People shouldn't have to be killed by a shark, in order for a company to post warnings.

The idea is to PREVENT deaths from happening.

R213 the posts just get dumb and dumber. There is no duty to warn. Got it? Good.

[quote] There is no duty to warn. Got it? Good.

Can any (other) lawyers weigh in on this?

Surely, businesses have an obligation to guests to warn them of dangers.

And yeah, the parents are going to sue.

Partygoers aboard a booze cruise are being slammed on social media for callously saying 'bye bye' as a high school graduate jumped into shark-infested waters in the Bahamas and vanished.

His fellow boat mates, many of them friends, could be heard shouting for the teen as one male yelled: 'This kid f***ing jumped off! Oh my f***ing God! Oh, shut the f*** up! Oh, bye, bye!'

Social media users have since taken aim at the remarks, posting videos asking how Robbins' so-called friends and fellow graduates could dismiss such a dangerous situation without taking action.

Social media users pointed out how Robbins' friends were heard laughing and bidding him farewell instead of trying to stop him or help him back onboard.

One user posted a video demanding to know who was heard saying 'bye bye' on the video.

Another posted a video explaining the incident and wrote in the caption: 'When your drunk and something bad happens like this it immediately makes you wake up and realize whats going on. That was never a friend.'

The same person also said 'imagine being a high school graduate, jumping off a boat on a dare and the last words you hear are 'bye bye.'

The mother of one of Robbins' friends told Fox News that several students tried to grab him before he took the plunge but he broke free.

'This was a booze cruise, and they were on their way back when this happened,' the unnamed woman said on Friday.

'My son texted me when it happened, saying, 'Cameron jumped off. They can't find him.' They were out there until 2, 3 the morning. It was terrible weather that night. The kids were cold, wet and traumatized.

'The girls were in bikinis and bathing suits. The guys were giving them their shirts. It was a bad time to bring drunk 18-year-olds out into waters near this island where there's nothing.'

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Way to kill our buzz Cameron

Cruises like this always start with some long, boring speech from the crew about what you can do. And that includes throwing things off the boat (including yourself).

This was an adult who made a dumb decision, and he died for it. It's too bad.

Simply put: did the cruise line control the water? No. Was the cruise line in control of the sharks? No. Was it foreseeable that a drunken idiot would ignore the rules and jump into the water? No. Was negligence by the cruise line the proximate cause of the drunken idiot’s death? No. Do we even known the cause of death? No. Will they ever know the cause of death.

Good points brought up at R216.

TOP OF THE WORLD, MA!!!!

I'm glad to hear that some of his friends tried to stop him from jumping.

Those are good kids.

That kid who said "Bye Bye!" is going to get roasted.

I'd love to know which of Cameron's "friends" said it.

R217 Wow, it's a buzz kill alright but nothing like our patron saint, Dan Motherfuck. Remember the girls tweeting that night, "I have your blood all over me, I can't believe you're gone!" That was really something, so many Jackie O's

What in the damned hell are you talking about, R223?

Where's Quint when you need him?

^also inside a shark

I'm talking about Dan Motherfuck R224, the teen killed when he stuck his head out of a party bus many years ago. We had a great thread on it. All his teen buddies were posting about how they were drenched in his blood and hoped he'd be able to pull through, despite, you know, his head being gone. Maybe a shark got him.

⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆

OMG!!!

What an awful story.

I think it's actually worse than this one.

R227, wasn't that an episode of Six Feet Under?

Yes R229. Woman's "divorce" party.

Still not convinced about the shark, although one of the enhanced Twitter videos posted above has started to sway me...

My question is, was he nude? I honestly cannot tell if he has shorts on or if he jumped naked, nevermind the supposed shark nearby.

He’s got shorts on

Oh I don't think it's worse R228, just messier. Dan Motherfuck probably felt no pain and never saw it coming.

Dan Motherfuck’s girlfriend Alexa had tweeted, “I guess us kissing tonight was goodbye??”

Word on the street is that the parents gave Dan Motherfuck’s to the grieving teen. She keeps it in a bowling bag in her bedroom closet.

^gave her Dan Motherfuck’s head to the grieving teen.

One of Dan's douche bro friends said something like, "this is nothing bro, this is a paper cut, I've seen you come back from worse!" I wonder what those kids are up to today.

Stupid young men have been dying in stupid ways since the dawn of time. Even though we feel saddened at these senseless deaths, they are a vital part population control. Not every baby boy born can or will make it to adulthood to reproduce. It's not Darwin in action as the human species is still thriving, but is still a type of natural selection.

[quote] So much promise ends with one dumb impulsive action.

Welcome to being a teenager

[quote] One of Dan's douche bro friends said something like, "this is nothing bro, this is a paper cut, I've seen you come back from worse!" I wonder what those kids are up to today.

No fucking way.

People are really not that stupid.

Right?

Here's the thread R239, I think there are a lot of quotes of the tweets.

I'm reading from the end of the thread to the front of the thread R240, and it's hilarious!

[quote] Danielle Cervasio ‏@danielle_cervs Pictures of Dan on instagram get more likes than pictures of my tits, look how loved you are baby #ripdan

These New Jersey assholes really are as horrible as they are portrayed.

How did he get the name "Dan Motherfuck?"

Dan Motherfuck is fine. He sends his love.

This too: THE NEWS IS ALL BULLSHIT DANS A FUCKING TROOPER HE'S HAD PAPER CUTS BIGGER THEN THAT. STAY STRONG MY PRAYERS GO OUT TO YOU

R242 That was his twitter handle.

[quote]How did he get the name "Dan Motherfuck?"

Take a guess.

Any pictures of Dan the Caveman?

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

R246, it’s Dan Motherfuck, you motherfucker.

From the Dan Motherfuck thread: "This kid was trying to be cool and funny, and he paid the highest price for it. Kids at this age think they are immortal. Hopefully his idiot friends learned something from this."

Always applicable. Kids do dumb shit and they dont always survive.

Last photo taken of Dan Motherfuck

From that thread: "only in this ridiculous country would we be looking at the workers on the bus as the reason this happened."

Change it to "his friends egging him on" Yeah, a dare doesn't let you off the hook for your actions. It's too bad he was too immature to tell the dare-r to fuck off. Maybe they'll learn not to dare each other, if that even happened to begin with.

R242 his twitter name or something was Danmotherfuck

Here's the original thread as it happened

The Dan Motherfuck thread has given this empath a massive headache and a great deal of stress. I have to wash my brain out now. What a horrible way to go.

[quote] I have to wash my brain out now.

Funny, isn't that what Dan did....?

I doubt he even felt it R253, he wasn't drowning like Cameron, that would be a way worse way to go!

One of the Dan tweets:

Conor Corley ‏@Conor_Corley God obviously needed a wingman to mack bitches up there I cant think of a better person to fit the requirements, look over me Dan, love you.

[quote] From the Dan Motherfuck thread: "This kid was trying to be cool and funny, and he paid the highest price for it. Kids at this age think they are immortal. Hopefully his idiot friends learned something from this."

I'm guessing that the blood splattered all over their clothes, and the headless body that slumped back into the bus would help them to "learn something."

Hey! This thread isn’t about Dan Motherfuck’s stupidity, it’s about mine! Get back to what’s left of me!

Truly two of the most senseless deaths I've ever heard of. These poor boys with their poor little underdeveloped frontal lobes. Like a lot of you have already said, when I think about some of the drunken risks I took as a teen and in college, it's a wonder I'm alive today. Gives me shivers just thinking about it. I just feel awful for the parents. You know they are going to spend the rest of their lives retracing their steps, wishing they'd said this or warned about that. Or not allowed their kid on the boat/bus in the first place. So very sad.

Dan Motherfuck seems quite beloved by his friends.

Lol.

In a very strange and "high school" way, they are all very complimentary of him.

The poor girlfriend of Dan Motherfucker. Can you imagine?

[quote] The poor girlfriend of Dan Motherfucker. Can you imagine?

Rofl R261.

Judging from the picture at R260, it looks like she enjoys eating pussy more than she likes to suck cock.

I'm guessing she turned full on lesbo after he lost his head.

PS Daniel Fernandez was quite handsome.

[quote] Search and rescue pros explain how Cameron Robbins likely vanished after diving into the sea

GRAPHIC WARNING: The following report contains details that some might consider graphic in nature.

Grainy cellphone footage shows recent Louisiana graduate Cameron Robbins swimming in Bahamian waters at night, but as the camera pans left for a second he disappears — never to be seen again.

Some claim the video appears to show a shark closing in on the 18-year-old, but longtime scuba and marine seach and rescue experts explain to The Post how several other outcomes need to be considered and explain why they think his body is yet to be recovered two weeks later.

Efforts by the coast guard from nearby Nassau and Robbins’ family were called off after two days when no trace of the teenager were found.

Wednesday will mark two weeks since Robbins, a high school athlete, disappeared, leaving his grieving family without answers.

“He was lost at sea after being reported missing off the coast of Athol Island in the Bahamas on the evening of May 24,” states a recent obituary honoring the beloved brother, son and grandson.

“Though he left this world far too soon, he lived a life full of good friends and family He was funny and kind-hearted, but also intense and driven.” Was it a shark attack?

Robbins graduated from the University Lab School in Baton Rouge three days before he vanished in the “shark-infested” waters off Athol Island in the Bahamas.

He had leaped from Blackbeard’s Revenge, a pirate ship-style vessel, just moments earlier.

The haunting video footage shows Robbins swimming away from a rescue buoy as onlookers shout for him to grab the device.

The shadow of a mysterious being can be seen in the water just feet from where he swam.

Internet viewers speculated the object was a shark which pulled him under. But experts largely reject the claim.

“We’ve consulted with oceanography and fisheries experts,” said Brian Trascher, vice president and spokesperson for the United Cajun Navy, a non-profit that has worked with the Robbins family. “They don’t believe … that he came in contact with any time of shark or predatory marine life.

“And until we get better video or something more conclusive, that’s going to be our position.”

Butch Hendrick, president and founder of public safety dive training company Lifeguard Systems, has spent decades familiarizing himself with the Caribbean waters, including off the Bahamas.

“I don’t hear about a lot of shark attacks in the Bahamas,” he told The Post Friday.

He noted that boats such as the one Robbins and his classmates had been on, often serve food that is then dumped or spilled into the water, which can attract marine life, such as sharks.

Marine life, such as sharks, are “smart enough to realize that’s a boat that comes out all the time and it’s going to have food coming off,” Hendricks, who has developed rescue methods in 15 countries, told The Post.

But the behavior of the object seen in the water with Robbins was not indicative of a shark.

“The tendency is not that [the shark] came in, took him, and took him to the depth,” Hendricks went on.

He noted the lack of any sign of blood in the water.

“They would hit him, that could be enough to totally incapacitate [him]. That could be enough to cause him to drown right there.”

Further, it’s unusual for a shark to actually finish eating a human it attacked, he noted.

“The tendency more often is to take a bite, shake and decide this isn’t what they wanted,” he said.

As for tiger sharks, which are known to swim in the waters off the Athol Island, “they can take a very large chunk,” Hendricks said.

“But the concept that they came back and ate more is slim.”

What did happen to Cameron Robbins?

Cristina Zenato, a longtime diver and Bahamas-based shark and ocean conservationist, told The Post she was not involved in the case at all, but suspected Robbins could have suffered hypothermia, then drowned.

“From what I saw, Cameron was wearing just shorts, and might have had a certain level of alcohol in his blood, which causes vasodilation,” she wrote in an email. “Chances are he didn’t survive hypothermia which contrary to popular belief can happen in matter of an hour or so, even in Caribbean waters.”

Hendricks, much like Zenato, questioned how much alcohol, if any, were in Robbins’ system at the time, and noted that could have contributed to the circumstances.

But Hendricks, whose rescue and recovery training company is one of the oldest in the nation, also wondered whether Robbins could have lost his breath after jumping from the boat.

“When he hits the water, does it simply knock the wind out of him and he can’t catch his breath?” he said.

“Knocking the wind out of himself when he hits the water is a very high possibility – now he’s struggling and he could sink.”

The current at the time would have likely also played a role, Hendricks said, as well as the possibility that Robbins could have hit his head during his descent.

“So, we don’t see the thrashing, we don’t see [blood]. A better chance that he just, he hits his head on the side of the boat or he gets the wind knocked out of him when he hits the water, he can’t catch his breath and then, in 60 seconds he’s leaving the surface.”

He called the chances Robbins could have swum to the safety of a shore “not impossible, but reasonably slim.”

The US Coast Guard and Royal Bahamas Defense Force (RBDF) spent two days searching the waters for any sign of Robbins before suspending their efforts, as is their protocol if they cannot find any trace of an individual missing at sea.

Hendricks, no stranger to search and rescue procedures, said officials likely scoured the water surface for any evidence floating in the water.

Whether or not Robbins’ body sank after jumping from the boat, his remains likely would have floated – unless he suffered any wounds or punctures to his body during his time in the water.

“This happened well over a week and a half ago,” Hendricks said. “In that water temperature, he should have floated.”

In addition to the temperature and any injuries to the body, the water’s depth would also play a role in whether Robbins’ body resurfaced, Hendricks explained.

“It could very well mean the body is gone forever,” he said.

“It’s been too long for that temperature and for that depth, unless the water is very deep there – unless we’re talking water that’s greater than 100 feet,” he went on. “That body should have been up – unless it can’t float.”

Hendricks also noted the existence of a 200-foot underwater channel near where Robbins went into the water.

If the teen did drift into the channel, Hendricks said, “he’s not coming up.”

How interesting that the "experts" don't think it's a shark attack.

All of us here were pretty much convinced that it was.

The two most likely scenarios are; he was attacked by sharks, or he was pulled under by the currents. The likelihood that he just drifter along for hours and days is absurd. He was probably gone in just a few minutes or even seconds.

Are we sure Cameron was adopted?

He looks like the rest of his family.

Which one of these douchebags do you think said "Bye, bye!" ???

I think it was the 'tard on the far left.

He was swimming away from the life preserver and he punched the water just before he turned away. He didn’t seem to be impaired by a blow to the head. Hendricks is mistaken.

[quote] Cristina Zenato, a longtime diver and Bahamas-based shark and ocean conservationist, told The Post she was not involved in the case at all, but suspected Robbins could have suffered hypothermia, then drowned.

[quote] “From what I saw, Cameron was wearing just shorts, and might have had a certain level of alcohol in his blood, which causes vasodilation,” she wrote in an email. “Chances are he didn’t survive hypothermia which contrary to popular belief can happen in matter of an hour or so, even in Caribbean waters.”

[quote] Hendricks, much like Zenato, questioned how much alcohol, if any, were in Robbins’ system at the time, and noted that could have contributed to the circumstances.

[quote] But Hendricks, whose rescue and recovery training company is one of the oldest in the nation, also wondered whether Robbins could have lost his breath after jumping from the boat.

[quote] “When he hits the water, does it simply knock the wind out of him and he can’t catch his breath?” he said.

[quote] “Knocking the wind out of himself when he hits the water is a very high possibility – now he’s struggling and he could sink.”

[quote] The current at the time would have likely also played a role, Hendricks said, as well as the possibility that Robbins could have hit his head during his descent.

[quote] “So, we don’t see the thrashing, we don’t see [blood]. A better chance that he just, he hits his head on the side of the boat or he gets the wind knocked out of him when he hits the water, he can’t catch his breath and then, in 60 seconds he’s leaving the surface.”

Interesting.

And all plausible, I guess.

[quote] Are we sure Cameron was adopted?

A memorial service for Robbins will be held Sunday at Broadmoor United Methodist Church in Baton Rouge.

Visitation will be from 2 p.m. to 4 p.m. The service will begin at 4 p.m.

In lieu of services, a donation in Robbins' name may be made to Christian Homes & Family Services in Abilene, Texas.

**Christian Homes & Family Services**

I had to look it up. It's an adoption agency.

It's so sweet that the family wants to make any donations in his name to the agency.

Ah how sweet an organization that probably makes sure little minority babies end up in white Christian homes.

R268 baseball hat kid.

Maybe tall guy in blue.

Guy on left doesn’t seem like he has a deep enough voice to match the ‘bye bye’ we heard.

Maybe it was all planned ahead of time and there was like a boat waiting for him and he's gone off to live some new life in South America

I don’t understand why some of you think that the boat crew should have to warn the passengers not to jump off of the boat into the dark ocean, sharks or no sharks. Duh.

^ it was only one, very low IQ, poster. He seems to have gone away in a snit at the pushback.

And when I heard the infamous "bye bye," R268, I immediately visualized something along the lines of the tall purdy boy on the right (standing next to Cameron) with the "Alright Alright Alright" t-shirt on. Someone nice 'n douchey. Someone for whom life had come too easy, and whose genetic and financial blessings had rendered him incapable of experiencing a shred of either humility or empathy.

[quote] How interesting that the "experts" don't think it's a shark attack. All of us here were pretty much convinced that it was.

Not all.

Yep R278, not I, but some very dramatic people thought so. "Blood erupting from his torn off arm". Yeah, sure.

If a shark attacks you do you die pretty quickly?

I’m also one of the ones who said it was probably the boat’s wake and very unlikely to be a shark. Anyone with experience with boats can see what happened.

The hypothermia risk would have been even greater than usual because the kid was drunk. Alcohol causes the blood vessels to expand and blood to move closer to the skin, causing faster core body temperature loss.

Would this boat have a motor that could grind him up? We have ferrys where I live and when people jump off the get ground up

R282, probably not.

This was an ocean going vessel, which generally are propeller-driven but the one large, single prop and keel are much deeper for stability in the water. It would be unlikely that he would be drug that far under, that far away from the boat.

Ferries, which normally operate in shallower water, have multiple smaller propellers very near the surface better suited to inland waterways.

the obsession with this topic is very disturbing.

[quote]“From what I saw, Cameron was wearing just shorts, and might have had a certain level of alcohol in his blood, which causes vasodilation,” she wrote in an email. “Chances are he didn’t survive hypothermia which contrary to popular belief can happen in matter of an hour or so, even in Caribbean waters.” Hendricks, much like Zenato, questioned how much alcohol, if any, were in Robbins’ system at the time, and noted that could have contributed to the circumstances. But Hendricks, whose rescue and recovery training company is one of the oldest in the nation, also wondered whether Robbins could have lost his breath after jumping from the boat. “When he hits the water, does it simply knock the wind out of him and he can’t catch his breath?” he said. “Knocking the wind out of himself when he hits the water is a very high possibility – now he’s struggling and he could sink.” The current at the time would have likely also played a role, Hendricks said, as well as the possibility that Robbins could have hit his head during his descent. “So, we don’t see the thrashing, we don’t see [blood]. A better chance that he just, he hits his head on the side of the boat or he gets the wind knocked out of him when he hits the water, he can’t catch his breath and then, in 60 seconds he’s leaving the surface.”

None of the above makes any fucking sense to me. One of the few things that's clear from the video and the accounts of witnesses is that the kid disappeared below the surface within a matter of a few minutes at most, not after "an hour or so." Also, as I've noted before, right before he disappears, he seems to be swimming normally without struggling or thrashing. So it seems to me that "hypothermia" and "hitting his head " during the fall or "having the breath knocked out of him" are idiotic theories.

[quote]The hypothermia risk would have been even greater than usual because the kid was drunk. Alcohol causes the blood vessels to expand and blood to move closer to the skin, causing faster core body temperature loss.

Really? Because I have always read EXACTLY the opposite, that alcohol consumption acts as sort of an anti-freeze in cases like this. Isn't the legend that one of the Titanic survivors -- I think it was a baker -- survived in the freezing water because he was drunk as a skunk?

[quote]Because I have always read EXACTLY the opposite, that alcohol consumption acts as sort of an anti-freeze in cases like this.

Link please.

Those experts have some kind of a vested interest in saying it wasn’t a shark.

[quote]Those experts have some kind of a vested interest in saying it wasn’t a shark.

It's like the local leaders in the movie Jaws.

How 𝑑𝑎𝑟𝑒 experts disagree with our snap judgments !

[quote] The hypothermia risk would have been even greater than usual because the kid was drunk. Alcohol causes the blood vessels to expand and blood to move closer to the skin, causing faster core body temperature loss.

[quote] Really? Because I have always read EXACTLY the opposite, that alcohol consumption acts as sort of an anti-freeze in cases like this.

That's right, R285.

Remember the story of the drunk guy who fell overboard off a cruise ship, and survived in the water for 20 hours, because he was totally shitfaced drunk.

And this was in November!!

So her theory doesn't hold up.

r284 you ain't seen nothin' Try the linked thread - that's a random sample out of about 7-8 parts JIIIMMMMAAYY

[quote]Those experts have some kind of a vested interest in saying it wasn’t a shark.

[quote]It's like the local leaders in the movie Jaws.

Exactly. Read Ibsen's "An Enemy of the People" . Both tourist destinations are threatened by an invasive but natural threat.

Like now, Bahamas.

[quote]the obsession with this topic is very disturbing.

He's a cute, white twink. That may explain some of it.

Absolutely, R292.

Also "shark people" don't want lynch mobs going after sharks because of all the recent shark attacks.

So they're giving out false information about the incident.

I think that really fucking sucks.

I think that you’re really fucking nuts.^

I'm guessing there isn't some big conspiracy, more that there isn't enough evidence yet about what happened, hence the general "lost at sea" c.o.d.

Not to be flippant but does anybody remember Blanche Deveraux's story of faking her own death in high school to see how many people turned up mourn her? If only that could happen with this story. Alas, life is not a Golden Girls episode.

R275 The flight crew on a plane doesn't tell you not to open the door and jump.

The bus driver doesn’t tell you not to suck fumes from the tailpipe.

Lame attempt at sarcasm, R298.

Not sarcasm, simply a statement of fact.

Why is everybody hating on the "bye bye" guy? He sounds drunk, probably had no idea that his friend was going to die. Why does there always have to be a scapegoat.

R301 because when people are screaming and it's clear something awful is happening it's callous to be so cold. Just seeing the video again the "Bye Bye" was the last voice on the video before the kid disappeared.

R302, He was just being polite.

Now he belongs to the ages.

R297 Perhaps they should.......

RIP Cameron

I think "Bye bye" guy was reacting to the fact that Cameron had just gone out of sight. Some of the onlookers got how serious the situation was, others didn't at that moment, being drunk.

R301 That's what I said on the other thread. He really doesn't make me livid like eveyone else is, he was hammered too and surprisd the kid jumped.

Will Cameron's services be broadcast on Zoom this Saturday?

I want pics of his half-eaten body. Nothing less will satisf

[quote] I want pics of his half-eaten body. Nothing less will satisf

Trust me, we would if we could!

The "Bye Bye" guy is going to get cancelled.

I wish his friends would out him, so we can know who said it.

18 years is a very short life.

Poor kid.

He died doing what he loved.

He will always be 18…inches tall.

[quote] He will always be 18…inches tall.

And a 30 inch waist.

I'm still wondering which one of these fuckers said "Bye, bye!"

It's like a real life Heathers, complete with the "healing circle."

With a beercan dick?

Judge for yourself, R318.

OMG!!!!

His friends have to go on living, for his sake.

R320 get on de boat…de banana boat!

I’m sure bye bye kid had no idea he wasn’t going to come back. You never think you’re in a tragedy when it happens. He probably thought he was screening around pretending to hide

Look how close the sharks came to the waterline!

That's so scary, R324!!

I can't believe they can swim so close to shore.

I can’t believe sharks can swim!

We now identify as land dwellers. We were assigned sea creatures at birth. We are simply awaiting the development of land-affirming healthcare and we will come to your house and eat you.

Thanks to this thread, all the youtube shark videos I've been watching have put sharks at the top of my recommended videos on YouTube.

This footage of a real shark attack on scuba divers underwater is terrifying!!!!

The shark was just swimming along, until one of the divers caught his attention. And then CHOMP!

Blood in the water...

The suspense of this video was really good.

Rather a dull video, sorry.

[quote]Who would they sue - the shark?

Attorneys refuse to sue sharks, professional courtesy.

Yeah, I really don't get people being so OUTRAGED by the bye bye kid. He's likely 18, with ZERO idea of the world, and consequences. People are weird.

Plus he didn’t think the kid would actually die. I’m sure he wouldn’t have said that if he knew Cameron was really in trouble.

He probably figured Cameron would just climb back onboard.

R332 I wish to fuck he had. Sucks.

[quote] Yeah, I really don't get people being so OUTRAGED by the bye bye kid. He's likely 18, with ZERO idea of the world, and consequences. People are weird.

I think people just think he's a fucking asshole.

Which he is.

Compassionate and caring people would never have said that.

None of the other kids did it. They were either trying to stop Cameron from jumping in, or they were screaming.

It was just that one callous asshole who said "Fuck you, bye bye."

That's the mark of an insensitive asshole. Again, keep in mind that it was just the one kid saying that.

R334 Ridiculous. It was a highly drunk 18 year old, who again has zero sense of long term consequences in the real world. He likely assumed poor Cameron would be able to get out of the water. Had everyone fully understood that that was the final time they'd see him, I'm guessing he wouldn't have sounded so callous.

We're going to need to see the bye bye guy before we decide whether or not he is guilty.

So is this case closed?

There is no case. There is no body. The end.

[quote]Ridiculous. It was a highly drunk 18 year old, who again has zero sense of long term consequences in the real world. He likely assumed poor Cameron would be able to get out of the water. Had everyone fully understood that that was the final time they'd see him, I'm guessing he wouldn't have sounded so callous.

I think the point, which you don't seem to comprehend, is that the young man in question was acting like the immature idiot he is in the face of a situation which should have been apparent to him as very grave if only for the fact that so many of the other kids were screaming. No matter how drunk he was, there is no excuse for him sarcastically shouting "bye-bye!"

Get it?

Summarized

R339 has stated her boundaries about farewell greetings!

Would have been OK if he said it in Cajun’? Au revoir.

I hope Cameron didn't hear his mocking tone, what a dismissive and cruel thing to hear just as you're slipping (or being dragged) to the depths of the inky ocean.

Poor boy. Such a stupid, but understandable way to go. We all do stupid stuff at 18, but most of us live to learn to be more sensible.

You're all looking at this the wrong way! That boy was raised right. He saw his friend swimming away and used the correct salutation.

Bye bye

Well I'm guessing Mr Bye Bye is persona non grata amongst his classmates right now. People love to have a bad guy in these situations

R339 Oh, I understood your point. I just completely disagree. Get off your high horse.

Laissez les bon temps rouler!!

So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen...

[quote]Oh, I understood your point. I just completely disagree. Get off your high horse.

If you understood my point, you couldn't possibly disagree. Unless you truly think there's nothing abhorrent about that drunken kid yelling "bye-bye" to the kid in the water while other kids are screaming in horror at the situation. The issue here is not that I'm on a "high horse," but that you seem to be functioning at the same low level of humanity and morality as that drunken asshole kid shouting "bye-bye."

R348 is a turd with no compassion for Cameron

R343 I wonder if Cameron actually heard it, since his limbs were being torn off his body.

A male voice was screaming off camera as the video ended. I would love to hear that explained by a member of “the current took him away” crowd.

Exactly, R354.

A lot of people were screaming, because they clearly saw something in the water that was going to attack him.

R351 No, I do not think there's anything abhorrent about a teenager yelling out something stupid and ill considered. Like, AT ALL.

R355 if had been clearly seen or known, then we would not have had 355 posts so far. By definition, that’s not clear. To me,

If he was in the water just swimming around, no one would be screaming. They’d be laughing and cheering him on. Many people jump off boats and you never hear the rest of the boat passengers get hysterical.

My impression is that some people (maybe the bye bye guy) thought he was just goofing around, but panic was rapidly spreading from those who could see what was going on.

Why were they screaming, R357?

I assumed the "bye-bye" comment was made because the boat was still moving (probably not very fast) and the person making the comment was humorously warning the jumper that he could be left behind.

Did bye-bye guy have insurance? I bet the parents sue him for being mean and not helping.😜

Bye Bye guy is a meanie who probably bullied Cameron

The bye bye guy saw the shark and was just being polite.

[quote]Many people jump off boats

How common an activity is it?

R358 Not too many people drunkenly jump off large ships moving under power at night into the black ocean because it's such an obviously dangerous and stupid thing to do. Bye-bye.

His body hasn’t been located, has it?

The search was called off.

Do bodies eventually sink in the Ocean?

Although some drowning victims bloat and float because of various gases created during decomposition, I think a body that has been severed open will quickly be consumed by sea creatures of various types and then the bones, which are heavier, will sink. This question sent me to two gross links, which I will kindly share with DL.

....and here's the second

R369 thanks for answering my question, I was expecting to get some sarky comment instead. I just wondered if Ocean conditions make much difference as oppose to sea or rivers.

Thank you X

I wonder how long it took the bodies of Titanic victims to disappear after they sank to the ocean floor. There are lots of shoes down there.

Did any of the titanic victims wash up somewhere?

There is a 200–foot underwater channel near where he landed in the water. One expert said that if he drifted into the channel, his body isn’t coming up.

If you jump off the ship it's best to have a nearby friendly boat with machine guns

[quote]I wonder how long it took the bodies of Titanic victims to disappear after they sank to the ocean floor.

I don't know how many of them "sank to the ocean floor," because first of all, a great many people had life jackets on, and they died not from drowning but from hypothermia. And even for those who didn't have life jackets on, would their bodies really "sink to the ocean floor?" I think that only people who ended up on the ocean floor are those who were dragged down with the ship.

[R369], thanks for sharing. I’m surprised Laci Peterson’s body was found somewhat intact considering she’d been submerged with anchors.

R377 wasn't she just a torso and leg?

[quote] I’m surprised Laci Peterson’s body was found somewhat intact considering she’d been submerged with anchors.

Bitch ain't got nothin' on me!

What about all the people trapped on the lower floors of the Titanic. Do their clothes or any of their bones still exist?

Ballard found no bones when exploring Titanic but did find multiple pairs of mated shoes that indicated where a body had been before disintegrating.

Cameron has visited the wreck 33 times and said he has seen "zero human remains" during his extensive explorations of the Titanic. "We've seen pairs of shoes, which would strongly suggest there was a body there at one point. But we've never seen any human remains,” said Cameron.

As horrible as it is, maybe poor Cameron was better off being killed by a shark. Watching that boat sail away while treading water is to awful to think about.

This incident has reignited America’s love affair with sharks

Thank you for that video, R381. Super interesting!

The bodies in Lake Superior are kept whole by the cold.

[quote]Watching that boat sail away while treading water is to awful to think about.

Well, yes -- but that wouldn't have happened. The boat wouldn't have "sailed away," because all of those kids were aware that someone had jumped overboard, and many of them were screaming. So even if the boat had been moving at the time, and it seems that it wasn't, I'm sure it would have stopped very soon and gone back and picked up Cameron.

I thought it was difficult to turn around, and navigate to the person in question, currents being what they are.

Whoever is mad about the bye-bye kid has autism

[quote]Whoever is mad about the bye-bye kid has autism

I'm surprised you don't understand why many people would find it appalling that someone would yell "bye-bye" to someone else who had jumped off a boat into the ocean at night, even if you personally have no problem with that. But maybe that's because you yourself lack empathy and humanity.

Fucking hell, people are acting like Mr Bye Bye threw Cameron into the water and directed the shark/s to devour him! He uttered two words, whilst inebriated, and now all these Mary's think he's a murderer.

It is quite the exaggerated contempt for hearing two words from an unknown teenager.

He's not a murderer, he's just an asshole with no empathy or humanity. And as for excusing his behavior because he was drunk, inebriated or not, would YOU would yell "bye bye" in a mocking tone to someone who had jumped off a boat into the ocean at night? Maybe you would....

Did he throw confetti and streamers?

If I were drunk I totally could have been bye bye guy.

I fail to see all the DL interest on this.

He really wasn't that hot.

So if had said “see you later, alligator” then I/2 of these posts would be moot? Got it.

I agree, R395.

If he was eaten by a shark, he's been fully digested by now and shit out as a turd on the ocean floor. Time to move on.

Maybe at the second the very drunk, bye bye guy, at that very instand, thought Cameron was simply gonna swim to the life preserver, hang around a bit, the boat would turn around, and they'd fish him out of the water.

In the video, you see him swimming very strongly - I never would have expected he'd suddenly go down. And add the fog of drunken partying teens - I'm sure not all of them had as good a view as we did on the video.

Sheesh, you'd think this poor guy pushed Cameron off the boat. This may end up being the nicest kid in the bunch who just had no clue it was going to be fatal.

* sorry for the mangled sentence that I tried to edit, ahem. Maybe at that instant, he thought Cameron was simply gonna swim to the life preserver...

[quote]If I were drunk I totally could have been bye bye guy.

I've always subscribed to the notion that alcohol doesn't make people behave in ways that are "not them," but rather, because it removes inhibitions, it allows people to show who they really are without societal constraints.

[quote] I fail to see all the DL interest on this.

[quote] He really wasn't that hot.

Bye bye!

People LOVE to be outraged.

R400 you may not have noticed, but your subscription was cancelled a while ago.

[quote]I've always subscribed to the notion that alcohol doesn't make people behave in ways that are "not them," but rather, because it removes inhibitions, it allows people to show who they really are without societal constraints.

I agree, but in this case, the guy may simply have blurted out something (in the chaos of everyone laughing then screaming) to kind of go along with what the jumper just did and downplay (in his own mind) what was suddenly happening, like a form of denial in not immediately grasping how dangerous that jump really was . I don't think it was meant as an "oh well", more like not comprehending what was actually happening.

Is it true he jumped because of the bet? Who was he betting with?

No one said it was a bet. There have been reports that it was a dare, not quite the same thing.

Has "Bye Bye" guy been identified yet?

I need to know who said it!!

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

^^ Maman's "laissez les bon temps rouler" bag at memorial service was a nice touch.

This site's hissyfit about Daily Mail links is so childish

Why is it a big mystery what happened to the boy? There's only a 40 sec video, but there were dozens of people on that boat and it looks like the boat was hardly moving at the time. Did he really disappear after 30 sec and was gone? What did the other passengers report? We never heard from the other people on that boot what really happened after the video ended. If a shark really attacked him, why didn't anyone hear him scream or see him struggle with the shark?

Because there was no shark.

It might have beeen the DL nemesis 🌊🐄

R411, I have the same questions. Unless it was also very unclear to the other people on the boat what happened. Maybe some or all of them thought that MAYBE they saw a shark, but weren't sure. And if a shark killed the kid by dragging him under the water from underneath, that's something that wouldn't be clear to witnesses.

I saw a youtuber claiming to be a shark expert who said sharks don't just come up to someone and bit them right away. They'd circle around a bit first. He said it 'might' be true but watching the video, he didn't think so. He discussed which types of sharks frequented that area (and their habits) but I don't remember the details.

I also read somewhere that there was a nearby sinkhole or place with a fast current that could have sucked him under - that would also explain him suddenly turning away from the life preserver thing and swimming the other way - if he felt like he was being pulled under.

* BITE them right away

Bye Bye!

Jesus Christ who keeps bumping this thread? I ate him three weeks ago! Do you go on and on about a meal you had three weeks ago?

The thread title sparked my interest

R417 Yes if it was especially delicious.

There are dozens of kids who could tell us what happened but they’ve been gagged, probably under legal threats

Yes, the shark filed for a protective NDA order against the kids.

Usually there's a struggle before a shark drags someone under the water. Every video I've seen the person usually first struggles with the shark and when they're hurt or severely injured, the shark drags them under the water. In this case, the shark supposedly just swallowed the teen. No struggle or screaming. He just disappeared. It's weird that the video just stopped after 40 sec and not one newspaper or reporter bothered to talk to the other people on that boat or his friends what happened after the video ended. If he really just disappeared and that was the end, my guess is a strong current got him.

It was strange how he just swam away without communicating to his friends, especially if he jumped on a dare. Seems he would have yelled up to them after he was in the water. That kind of makes it seem like he saw a shark and immediately went into survival mode. If a current dragged him, wouldn't he have cried out for help? Or maybe the jump itself shook him up and he became disoriented as a current dragged him away. But when that happens, doesn't the person tread water for a long time? Jumping off a ship into dark water is so eerie. His family must be living a nightmare.

I also read that he was adopted from a Texan orphanage as a toddler. Seems like he was adopted by a nice, wealthy family who provided him a lavish lifestyle and he threw it all away with this stupid stunt.

[quote]There are dozens of kids who could tell us what happened but they’ve been gagged, probably under legal threats

Legal threats from whom? The company that owns the boat? As many people have expressed here, I can't imagine they'd ever be held liable in any way.

At least one other video exists somewhere. You can see someone else filming with their phone.

WTF haters, it's not like I ate that kid!

Maybe it was an "I Know What You Did Last Summer" teen murder cover-up?

[quote] Usually there's a struggle before a shark drags someone under the water. Every video I've seen the person usually first struggles with the shark and when they're hurt or severely injured, the shark drags them under the water. In this case, the shark supposedly just swallowed the teen. No struggle or screaming. He just disappeared

Compare this video with the CONFIRMED shark attack on the Russian fellow in Egypt.

It’s even scarier to think that the ocean can just suck you under than being eaten by a shark

Phyllis, r430, is scared of a baby pool.

Around 400 people have gone missing from a cruise ship since 2000. This has included both cruise ship passengers and members of the crew. Only 17% to 25% of the fallen passengers make it out alive and live to tell their tales.

Investigators found that just under half the number of overboard accidents happen on Carnival Cruise Lines, with Royal Caribbean following in a close second. More than 20% of the people die during their rescue, while 60% of the surviving passengers die a few minutes after getting rescued.

Remember that girl who disappeared from a cruise, then some time later some guy said he'd happened upon to doing forced work as a prisoner in a brothel?

He did nothing to help her

R433 Yeah that didn't happen.

Amy Bradley

Thanks R435 I'd forgotten her name, poor girl.

[Quote]More than 20% of the people die during their rescue, while 60% of the surviving passengers die a few minutes after getting rescued.

Why? Extreme exhaustion? These huge cruise ships should be forced to have rescue helicopters or special boats who can immediately go back to the spot where the accident happened. They certainly have space for slot machines and other unnecessary crap. Why not invest in safety?

I was kind of hoping R432 would include how the "overboard accidents" happen. What were the 400 people doing? In this case, the kid jumped. In the case of that George Smith guy a few years ago, he and his bride were inebriated with absinthe and met up with thugs on the ship who may have beat him up and thrown him overboard while his wife was passed out in a hallway (she made it to her massage the next morning, though!). What's the most common reason these people are falling off of cruise ships?

[Quote]What's the most common reason these people are falling off of cruise ships?

Couple of years ago there was video of tourists trying to take a picture and they were sitting/climbing the rail. There was also a video of a person falling of the ship. She/he first hit the lifeboat and people were trying to help, but it was too late and the person fell. Not sure if she was involved in a fight or stupid accident. I think most people are just dumb and fall of the ship while taking a picture/selfie or being drunk. Followed by people who just jump of the ship and commit suicide.

Thanks, R439. I guess life on the sea isn't much different than life on land! Add in more concentrated spaces of serious inebriation and...oh boy.

R435 there's nothing there about her being a sex worker, you QAnon moron.

R441 look her up on Wikipedia you twat, I'm not going to link for you.

Shark is hot topic right now. Somewhere in Hollywood, some producer is probably convincing Steven Spielberg to make another sequel to Jaws after his string of flops.

I don't think they will find him. Bye-bye to the Camster.

R442 not believing anything in Wikipedia. If it were legit, it would certainly appear in that FBI document. Again, didn't happen.

R442 I apologize for being a dick. I read her whole story. I do doubt the brothel claim, but who knows? Peace.

R446 no problem. I only remember the brothel detail as I found it weird someone would admit to have done nothing to help her!

R447 her poor family was bilked out of over $200,000 for a fake "rescue mission." Just a terrible story.

If only someone told him the statistic only 20% of passengers who go overboard wind up living.

They shouldn't have to, but maybe it's a good idea to warn people as the cruise begins. Especially when it's drunk 18 year old str8 boys.

18 years of schooling for what? I'm so sorry for his family.

was this a cruise boat or just some ferry like party boat?

The latter, dressed up as a ‘pirate ship.’

It's a 60-year-old mail boat that was converted right before the pandemic. Dead name: Eleuthera Express.

Because of a recent shark attack on a tourist and a boat explosion that killed a tourist and injured ten others, the owner couldn't find a Bahamian insurance company willing to offer worldwide coverage. He ended up with a $5M policy from a company in Florida. Always Florida.

I think the poor lad was gay. He jumped off the ship because he couldn't stand to be on such a tacky monstrosity another minute.

That picture of the boat at R453 is interesting.

I thought maybe he took an easy jump off of a platform, but from the looks of it he actually would have to have jumped from the middle of the boat, and that's quite a far distance to the water.

I know it doesn't look like it, but it is a far distance.

What an idiot.

I’ve never been on a cruise why didn’t they send someone into the water after him?

He was adopted? Interesting. Has DL formulated a pathology for adopted children. Very needed right?

R455 lol. I’m guessing you’ve watch Speed 2 and other mindless action flicks too many times. Even an expert diver will not jump into the ocean without preparation. It seems like he didn’t put much foresight in how he we was going to get back on the ship. Buck would have thought a plan before being a badass.

Cameron was a real cutie -- great smile. Looked like a fun guy.

I'm quite certain that before he even hit the water, he realized that he had made a terrible, terrible mistake that he would not survive.

Sharks can swim into inland waters too, FYI.

R460 That’s not real …that’s from the Universal Studios tour in The Valley.

[quote]I'm quite certain that before he even hit the water, he realized that he had made a terrible, terrible mistake that he would not survive.

Why are you "quite certain" that he realized it at that point?

He had an awful lot to deal with in a mere few minutes, if not seconds - I doubt that he pondered his decision at all. Just hitting the water, slapping into your face, is enough to make your fight-or-flight reflexes and adrenaline go as high as possible. You can see him swimming very fast - then changing direction because something must have gone terribly wrong - and then, poof, he's down (probably fiercely trying to get back up out of the current - or fighting the shark and trying to get away - then... the end.

R459 He is interacting with the audience after diving in. It’s quite obvious what happen here. He dived in and then saw the 🦈. He tried to get away but could not do so and was served as gourmet dinner for the sharkie. RIP. I would quote Darwin but this is much deeper than that. He had not one friend on that cruise ship. Is the generation really becoming dumber. Not one sober person to stop him.

I don't remember him interacting with the kids after he hit the water, R464. Was he frantic and asking for help? or smiling and still in the 'having a lark' and 'look how macho I am' mode?

Cameron was cute in a certain way. A few pics, with his hair wet, he looks very cute. He’s probably one of those who is way cuter in person. His body was sick!

The shark “expert” guy on YouTube said he does think they figure was a shark, but a small one likely 5ft. Cameron definitely turns quick away when it appears he sees it. The guy doesn’t think the shark could kill him, though it could cause enough damage to cause him to drown. He said the waters around Nassau aren’t as shark infested as most of the Bahamas except the exact location he jumped.

I think he drowned and shark got the remains.

The bye bye guy was drunk. JFC I cannot believe some of you want to draw and quarter him.

[quote]I’ve never been on a cruise why didn’t they send someone into the water after him?

Another reason why this cruise line will be sued. They did nothing to help. They didn’t even have signs up saying not to jump off the ship.

R467 Is that true because if so they can and will be sued because tort law in America is established in a way that even stupid cunts have a case. I’m pretty sure they did have language up conveying not to jump. If the company isn’t American the cunt plaintiffs may run into problems.

The owners are Bahamian, but someone upthread said they're insured by a Florida company.

So it's unclear what rights the family has, when it comes to a lawsuit against the owners of the charter.

R467 he was gone in 60 seconds! He swam away from the life buoy! WTF are you not seeing?

R469 the “flag” of a vessel is NOT related to the owner’s physical location. Capisce?

So much apparent stupidly about the rights and responsibilities in this instance…I sometimes fear the intelligence of DLers; in this thread I fear their sheer ignorance.

R469 The company can then sue the insurance company. I highly doubt no language either conveying or signaling not to jump. That would be risk liability suicide. The boy was autistic and of normal intelligence however if no such sign exist they will have a legitimate suite. In a common sense it’s a frivolous lawsuit but you know we must protect every intellectual capacity.

Meant to type he was NOT autistic.

[quote]I highly doubt no language either conveying or signaling not to jump. That would be risk liability suicide. The boy was autistic and of normal intelligence however if no such sign exist they will have a legitimate suite.

The last cruise I went on had no signs anywhere about not jumping off. Were they suicidal?

R473 please write in English. Please don’t pretend you have even a basic understanding of torts or common law. TIA

R476 you arrogant cunt. I do , some of us type fast on our iPhones. I’m here sitting here at work because I’m addicted to DL. You got that Addicted. I’m addicted to the site. Don’t judge me just love me.

Why are tough working? Today is a federal holiday! Why aren’t you celebrating Juneteenth, or just enjoying the day off? Why are you making unintentionally humorous posts about basic legal concepts?

You can just ask “what’s the applicable law,” or “what’s the best or likely outcome for his family”—you’d get more helpful or interesting info that way. ☮️

I hope Cameron got his knob polished off at the least on his last night

Why are you working*

R4678 because I work for a corporate, public limited company. They selected MLK this year for federal holidays. And I’m not being funny. We don’t get all the numerous federal holidays off outside of the core— Labor Day, memorial, veterans, thanksgiving and Christmas. Traditionally they alternate btw President’s and MLK.

R478*

Your loss. In that context, your nonsense makes a tiny bit of sense.