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'The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel' season 5

Final season. Premieres April 14.

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by Anonymousreply 218June 2, 2023 12:37 AM

Thank God.

by Anonymousreply 1March 20, 2023 9:38 PM

One last chance for sexy Joel to get it on with his BFF Archie.

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by Anonymousreply 2March 21, 2023 3:07 AM

They could have a scene where Joel confides to Midge that both he and Archie are bottoms.

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by Anonymousreply 3March 21, 2023 10:52 PM

Watching the first episode now. I'm gonna miss this show when it's gone, there's just nothing else like it. Every frame looks stunning and they've upped their game in the lighting department this season as well.

by Anonymousreply 4April 14, 2023 9:41 AM

Unless they show cocks I'm not interested.

by Anonymousreply 5April 14, 2023 1:02 PM

R5- They did. That episode when her mother takes an art class at Columbia and she almost faints when she sees a man posing naked- they show him FULL FRONTAL.

by Anonymousreply 6April 14, 2023 1:14 PM

That was seasons ago, R6. There's been nary a cock since--can't they at least show Archie's?

by Anonymousreply 7April 14, 2023 1:17 PM


I'd be happy to see him FULL rearal

by Anonymousreply 8April 14, 2023 2:10 PM

If only I could watch without the overly pert machine-gun fire dialog.

by Anonymousreply 9April 14, 2023 2:14 PM

R9- I agree . The characters especially Madge have fat too much energy the way they deliver their lines.

by Anonymousreply 10April 14, 2023 2:27 PM

They are always “on.”

by Anonymousreply 11April 14, 2023 5:29 PM

That's what I hate most about the show, R9/R11.

by Anonymousreply 12April 14, 2023 5:33 PM

That and how unfunny the main character is.

by Anonymousreply 13April 14, 2023 5:43 PM

Enh, I actually love that about the show; what other show has that kind of Gilmore Girls dialogue? At eight episodes per season, it's like a rich cream you indulge in once in a while.

by Anonymousreply 14April 14, 2023 6:08 PM

More like spoiled, rotting cream. Yuck.

by Anonymousreply 15April 14, 2023 6:29 PM

I disagree, the dialogue is pretty witty.

by Anonymousreply 16April 14, 2023 6:30 PM

I disagree. I think the dialogue is pretty shitty.

by Anonymousreply 17April 14, 2023 7:01 PM

Then it's not for you, I guess. Plenty of other TV threads on DL for you to peruse.

by Anonymousreply 18April 14, 2023 7:03 PM

Yeah, there are. And I can be on this one as well.

by Anonymousreply 19April 14, 2023 7:04 PM

It does get tiring after a while...

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by Anonymousreply 20April 14, 2023 7:06 PM


by Anonymousreply 21April 14, 2023 7:09 PM

We got it the first five times, thanks.

Anyhoo, I'll miss the gorgeous costumes most of all.

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by Anonymousreply 22April 14, 2023 7:10 PM

That machine gun fire style, the rhythm of the dialogue is also a shout out to the way sitcoms used to be in the 50's. And those 50's sitcoms with their snappy dialogue and oneliners had their origins in Vaudeville. I am telling you, Mrs. Maisel is meticulous when it comes to serving up authenticity. The settings, the clothes, the dialogue, the characters, the narrative structure, etc. this show is sublime.

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by Anonymousreply 24April 14, 2023 7:12 PM

I told a lie just then, I'm gonna miss the sexy Luke Kirby most of all. Can he just fuck me already?

Jason Ralph is surprisingly decent as well. Didn't know he was so good at the twitchy, physical comedy.

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by Anonymousreply 25April 14, 2023 7:15 PM

OMG, I love Luke Kirby. His Lenny is a lot sexier than the real Lenny.

by Anonymousreply 26April 14, 2023 7:17 PM

The hot men were the only reason to watch this show.

by Anonymousreply 27April 14, 2023 7:20 PM

In terms of the dialogue, I recently read an interview with the show runner, who said each episode script was 50% longer than a standard script, based on the pace of delivery. I’ll miss it, such a unique and excellent show on so many levels.

by Anonymousreply 28April 14, 2023 9:38 PM

Well they’re really rolling out the PR machine for the final season.

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by Anonymousreply 29April 14, 2023 9:56 PM

Rachel Brosnahan is not Jewish! Couldn’t they find a Jewish girl to play the role?

by Anonymousreply 30April 14, 2023 9:58 PM

Amy Sherman-Palladino and her dumpy body and her stupid hats. What a fucking hack. She and her hubby constitute one hack.

by Anonymousreply 31April 14, 2023 9:59 PM

That subway scene is episode 2 was a surprisingly accurate depiction of how to take the train from UWS Riverside Ave to midtown east. They got every platform and staircase right.

(Just a pity that Milo V can’t do comedy.)

by Anonymousreply 32April 14, 2023 10:00 PM

Loved the TWA terminal scenes but that didn’t building open until 1962, a year after the first episode takes place!

by Anonymousreply 33April 14, 2023 10:06 PM

Yeah, just like they had in another episode a Streisand song playing a few years before it even came out. Sloppy. They spend more time on the costumes and decor than other details. It's so ersatz.

by Anonymousreply 34April 14, 2023 10:10 PM

I still laugh at last season. There was a scene outside the Cherry Lane Theater. It had rained before they shot the scene and there were still puddles on the street. As Marin Hinkle is walking away from the theater you can see her nudging Rachel Brosnahan to the left in order to avoid stepping in a puddle.

by Anonymousreply 35April 14, 2023 10:18 PM

^^Just to add, the director had them walking down the middle of the street, to get an atmospheric wide shot, rather than using the sidewalk. Hence the need to elbow her costar.

by Anonymousreply 36April 14, 2023 10:21 PM

This show really had a spectacular fall, no?

by Anonymousreply 37April 14, 2023 10:29 PM

I loved the first season, kind of liked the second (loved the guy in the swimsuit), and the third wore me out by episode 3.

by Anonymousreply 38April 14, 2023 11:05 PM

Why does Milo progressively get worse as an actor with each role?

by Anonymousreply 39April 15, 2023 12:04 AM

He was never any good.

by Anonymousreply 40April 15, 2023 12:15 AM

R40 Which is why it’s even more shocking.

by Anonymousreply 41April 15, 2023 12:17 AM

Why does this show spend so much time with the father writing theater reviews, it has nothing to do with Mrs.. Maisel?

by Anonymousreply 42April 15, 2023 12:24 AM

To give Tony Shalhoub something to do, R42.

by Anonymousreply 43April 15, 2023 12:25 AM

He’s a supporting character on this show, he needs to support and not try to steal focus

by Anonymousreply 44April 15, 2023 12:27 AM

He's also the best actor on the show.

by Anonymousreply 45April 15, 2023 12:28 AM

So the hats get bigger with each season, shouldn’t they be disappearing as we move forward in time?

by Anonymousreply 46April 15, 2023 12:29 AM

R45 Then was does he come off as a autistic, like many on this board rail against?

by Anonymousreply 47April 15, 2023 12:31 AM

I don't know what you're talking about, R47.

by Anonymousreply 48April 15, 2023 1:19 AM

[quote] Rachel Brosnahan is not Jewish! Couldn’t they find a Jewish girl to play the role?

Oh FFS. You should feel grateful they've not given the role to Sara Porkalob or Laverne Cox.

by Anonymousreply 49April 15, 2023 3:08 AM

The time jumps are an interesting construct for Season 5.

by Anonymousreply 50April 15, 2023 6:15 PM

Joel’s tits in episode 3 are sublime.

Why was Susie freaked out by the photo of the tv host and his wife?

by Anonymousreply 51April 16, 2023 12:53 AM

OK. I watched the first three episodes. Clearly it is 1960. Kennedys moving into the White House, etc. And the time jumps are well done. I needed more Luke Kirby, but other than that I enjoyed it.

by Anonymousreply 52April 16, 2023 3:49 AM

I think Luke Kirby is gone for good.

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by Anonymousreply 53April 16, 2023 5:57 AM

They’re clearly in wrap-up mode, clearing out everyone who isn’t family (or Susie). Bye Lenny and Mei!

by Anonymousreply 54April 16, 2023 12:04 PM

I think I don't like Midge. She's becoming very selfish and unlikeable. I thought she would mature and grow. But she is way too self involved and she is not going to change. The Mike Wallace interview did it for me.

by Anonymousreply 55April 16, 2023 12:11 PM

There seems to be a slender possibility that Lenny might make one more appearance. He's not going to die until 1966.

by Anonymousreply 56April 16, 2023 12:12 PM

The fifth season seems to be much better than 3 and 4, so far. No stupid, pointless musical numbers, and I love the future footage.

I regret that I did not work on costumes for this.

by Anonymousreply 57April 16, 2023 12:15 PM

So can we assume that to a certain extent, Midge Maisel is based on a Joan Rivers type?

by Anonymousreply 58April 16, 2023 12:25 PM

More annoying than the overly energetic, rapid fire dialogue is Midge’s manipulative way of prefacing the meat of her words with throw away stuff designed to make sure the focus of attention is on her, personally, not the content of her words. It was especially noticeable in the writers’ room scenes.

by Anonymousreply 59April 16, 2023 12:29 PM

The actress playing Mae had scheduling conflicts and Lenny is beginning his long goodbye and they don’t want to cover it.

by Anonymousreply 60April 16, 2023 12:39 PM

[quote] The actress playing Mae had scheduling conflicts

How do you know that, R60?

by Anonymousreply 61April 16, 2023 2:19 PM

I envy Rachel for having the delectable Jason Ralph as her real-life husband.

by Anonymousreply 62April 16, 2023 2:36 PM

The flash forward scenes portray Midge as a real asshole and a terrible mother. I approve.

by Anonymousreply 63April 16, 2023 2:37 PM

She was a selfish cunt way back in the first season.

by Anonymousreply 64April 16, 2023 3:12 PM

Stephanie Hsu (Mei) was just nominated for an Oscar and has several upcoming projects.

by Anonymousreply 65April 16, 2023 3:15 PM

The scripts were written before her several upcoming projects, R65, and before her Oscar nomination. She would be obligated to her contract with the series. They cut her part down because once they made her pregnant she was an unsexy and nowhere-to-go character.

by Anonymousreply 66April 16, 2023 3:19 PM

[Quote] It's so ersatz.

Only on DL, kids, only on DL.

by Anonymousreply 67April 16, 2023 3:42 PM

R67 seems to think Maisel is completely believable and authentic, poor dumb bitch.

by Anonymousreply 68April 16, 2023 3:56 PM

What makes you think she had a contract, r66?

by Anonymousreply 69April 16, 2023 3:58 PM

Every actor has a contract on a tv show, R69.

by Anonymousreply 70April 16, 2023 4:27 PM

Wrong, but okay.

by Anonymousreply 71April 16, 2023 4:36 PM

Which is the greatest sin—that Midge is mean and selfish, self-destructive or not funny?

by Anonymousreply 72April 16, 2023 5:00 PM

No, R71, it isn't incorrect. When an actor takes a role, they sign a contract per SAG-AFTRA.

by Anonymousreply 73April 16, 2023 5:09 PM

Besides which, no production company or studio works around the schedule of any actor unless said actor is the star of the show, and even then, they are often not let out of their contracts to take other acting jobs while being hired to work on the show or the movie they're on.

by Anonymousreply 74April 16, 2023 5:17 PM

I truly enjoy this show. It's not great--like The Sopranos, Mad Men, Succession--but it is highly entertaining. Season 3 was mediocre at best, but it recovered in season 4.

My biggest gripe has been (until late season 4) that Midge is a winner always--even when losing. She's always portrayed as endlessly desirable--by men and women--and never seemed damaged by divorce or professional failure. Also, no negative consequences to being a highly neglectful/unengaged mother.

That started to change midway through season 4 and, in season 5, the show is finally focusing on the dark consequences of her choices. I wish the flash forwards were established earlier in the series to off-set some of Midge's superficial charm. The dark turn has made her a much more interesting character and the flash forwards have made it a much more interesting show.

by Anonymousreply 75April 16, 2023 5:20 PM

How predictable that Gordon Ford would be enchanted by Midge.

by Anonymousreply 76April 16, 2023 5:22 PM

[quote]My biggest gripe has been (until late season 4) that Midge is a winner always--even when losing. She's always portrayed as endlessly desirable--by men and women--and never seemed damaged by divorce or professional failure.

I agree with you there, but that was part of the show's entire concept. Midge is the fantasy of the young pretty smartly dressed ethnic white woman as endlessly and unfathomably adorable--it's a common fantasy many Jewish and Italian women on the East Coast have. (I remember when Wendy Wasserrstein kept going on and on about how adorable she found Monica Lewinsky when the latter did her interview with Barbara Walters.)

[quote]Also, no negative consequences to being a highly neglectful/unengaged mother.

You're not paying attention. In the flashforwards, we see her daughter has grown up to be estranged from her selfish mother.

by Anonymousreply 77April 16, 2023 5:57 PM

And Ethan, too. He doesn’t even tell her he’s getting married.

by Anonymousreply 78April 16, 2023 6:53 PM

Midge seems like someone who has emptiness at her core. On an emotional level she's 13 yrs old and she never gets over it.

by Anonymousreply 79April 16, 2023 7:14 PM

R61–read r53’s link.

by Anonymousreply 80April 16, 2023 7:38 PM

It’s the 5th season, when is the “Marvelous” part going to kick in, or was that always supposed to be ironic?

by Anonymousreply 81April 16, 2023 8:49 PM

Reid Scott is hot.

by Anonymousreply 82April 16, 2023 9:19 PM

I hop we see Midge's parents die painfully.

by Anonymousreply 83April 16, 2023 11:03 PM

I like Midge's mother, but the character of her father has been insufferable.

by Anonymousreply 84April 16, 2023 11:04 PM

I did read it, R80. Palladino is making an excuse for why they didn't keep her in the show.

by Anonymousreply 85April 17, 2023 2:26 PM

Bullshit. You don’t build up a character into a pivotal plot point and then drop her for kicks. It is a fact that the actor had other commitments.

by Anonymousreply 86April 17, 2023 4:28 PM

You're naive, R86. The storyline sucked and they knew it.

by Anonymousreply 87April 17, 2023 4:34 PM

Well there really was no place for Mei to go. If she and Joel married, doe she continue with school? Does she go to Chicago? Do they do the long distance thing? The story arc for them was running out. If they'd stayed together, married, had the baby, she becomes a doctor, etc. they either become a sidebar sitcom or a spin off series.

by Anonymousreply 88April 17, 2023 5:11 PM

I don't want this to be the last of Lenny. I got goosebumps every time he entered a scene. Luke Kirby deserves a much better fade out than that airport scene.

by Anonymousreply 89April 17, 2023 5:14 PM

"It smelled like oolong and ash." I love Midge's mom and her fabulous coats so much.

Does anyone know why Susie was freaked out by the photo at the end of the third episode? Who was that woman in the photo?

Michael Zegen has such a nice body. Buff, but in a relatable way, if that makes sense.

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by Anonymousreply 90April 18, 2023 4:49 AM

OK, watching episode 4. There's a theatricality about this episode that gave me a brainstorm. Mark my words they are going to do a broadway musical about The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel. You heard it here first.

by Anonymousreply 91April 21, 2023 4:54 PM

[quote]Alex Borstein wants to do a Marvelous Mrs. Maisel stage musical

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by Anonymousreply 92April 21, 2023 4:58 PM

So does Susie have a lesbian past? It would seem so.

by Anonymousreply 93April 21, 2023 5:27 PM

R92 I swear I did not see this. But if they do it well it's a great idea!

by Anonymousreply 94April 21, 2023 6:33 PM

Milk it, Alex. Milk it!

by Anonymousreply 95April 21, 2023 6:35 PM

If she does a musical, I hope they find something for Mrs. Swan. Perhaps Midge could pay a visit to Gorgeous Pretty Beauty Nail Salon.

by Anonymousreply 96April 21, 2023 6:38 PM

I can see three acts: The early days; the middle period finding your identity and finally getting popular, and act 3, the denoue'ment where she falls out with Susie, her kids hate her, and Lenny is dead.

by Anonymousreply 97April 21, 2023 6:46 PM

[quote]Joel’s tits in episode 3 are sublime.

He has amazing tits...the stuff dreams are made of

by Anonymousreply 98April 21, 2023 7:25 PM

And we still don’t get Joel’s ass

by Anonymousreply 99April 21, 2023 10:02 PM

^ speaak for yourself...

by Anonymousreply 100April 21, 2023 10:04 PM

[quote]Amy Sherman-Palladino and her dumpy body and her stupid hats. What a fucking hack. She and her hubby constitute one hack.

Agreed, r31.

[quote]So does Susie have a lesbian past? It would seem so.

It's been alluded to many times, r93, but now it's confirmed.

[quote]She was a selfish cunt way back in the first season.

From the first episode, r64. I never understood why we were supposed to root for her.

by Anonymousreply 101April 21, 2023 11:37 PM

Is hot Erik Palladio (one of the mobsters) related to ASP’s husband?

by Anonymousreply 102April 22, 2023 1:27 AM

Hey, R98! What about us?

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by Anonymousreply 103April 24, 2023 1:03 PM

Doesn't our Joel have the most beautiful titties you've ever seen?

He takes after his mother.

by Anonymousreply 104April 24, 2023 7:27 PM

[quote]So can we assume that to a certain extent, Midge Maisel is based on a Joan Rivers type?

Assume ? That has never been a secret from the producers or the cast.

by Anonymousreply 105April 24, 2023 7:39 PM

R98 Watched the episode last night, and all I can say is WOW ! He looked great. I don't think he had that body the past few seasons.

But this is taking place in 1961 - truly, no guys had muscled chests like that back then at his age. No man was going to a 'gym' since there were so few around. No guy was eating healthy and keeping their bodies in shape like that. They may have been weight-proportionate, but not developed like that - especially their arms.

by Anonymousreply 106April 25, 2023 3:47 PM

Nice use of a Joan Jett tune.

by Anonymousreply 107April 26, 2023 11:43 AM

[quote]Nice use of a Joan Jett tune.

A little on the nose, but I admit that I laughed aloud, r107/Elderlez. I seriously dislike Amy Sherman-Palladino's writing. She is known for stealing material and not attributing it. She won't even call them homages, claiming them as her own. The trashcan dance in the most recent episode was a lift from Gene Kelly, and the group dance in Sophia Lennon's telethon was stolen from Bobby Banas.

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by Anonymousreply 108April 26, 2023 12:13 PM

It's Always Fair Weather.

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by Anonymousreply 109April 26, 2023 12:22 PM

Hey Stargazer!

I certainly got the sense that it was “in case anyone is in doubt about what this fight is about or if Susie is a lesbian, here’s a song for ya’”

by Anonymousreply 110April 26, 2023 4:32 PM


Yes, Elderlez!

I am really wondering where this will end.

by Anonymousreply 111April 26, 2023 5:14 PM

Love the costumes and the interiors for this show! I binged on S1 and S2 but my attention waned after that. There have been some great-looking men on the show.

I would like to see a film about the real Joan Rivers (DL icon), but am not sure who could play her. Kristen Wiig as adult Joan?

by Anonymousreply 112April 26, 2023 10:10 PM

Does the guy playing Archie remind anyone of Matt Gaetz? At least the hair?

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by Anonymousreply 113April 27, 2023 12:39 AM

Thirsty bitches, rejoice! We're going to be seeing a lot more of the beautiful Luke Kirby, hopefully in some sort of sexual context featuring the also incredibly fuckable David Alvarez.

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by Anonymousreply 114April 27, 2023 5:33 AM

R114 I SAW that and was just getting ready to post it. Thank you to all the gods in the universe. Why does he have such an effect on me? I think he is incredibly sexy.

by Anonymousreply 115April 27, 2023 7:35 PM

The growth of Susie’s business is happening too quickly. Was there a “future” scene last week?

by Anonymousreply 116April 29, 2023 4:44 AM

This whole “Midge gets a win and then totally fucks it up” thing has gotten really tiresome.

by Anonymousreply 117April 29, 2023 11:50 AM

The entire fucking show is tiresome. She is so unfunny and yet they want us to believe that audiences love her? You just want to kick her in the cunt.

by Anonymousreply 118April 29, 2023 6:14 PM

^ Stevie Nicks

by Anonymousreply 119April 30, 2023 7:39 PM

I like the way everything looks in this show, so I can’t stop watching, but I hate Mrs Maisel and her yappy parents. They are not adorable and Mrs Maisel is a bow legged boob. Not funny, not plucky, not smart. Just a spoiled bore. It is an emperors clothes situation when the audience is roaring at her tiresome quips. But I do love Suzy.

by Anonymousreply 120April 30, 2023 10:49 PM

The Palladino-Sherman hacks could have shown dick anytime and didn't. Unforgivable for a show with a cunt as a mai character.

by Anonymousreply 121April 30, 2023 11:00 PM

And every Jew cliche known to mankind.

by Anonymousreply 122April 30, 2023 11:01 PM

r120, I agree, except for the Suzy part. She is as annoying as hell.

by Anonymousreply 123April 30, 2023 11:14 PM

Annoying as fucking fuck, like the whole show. The only real enthusiam on this thread, understandably, are for the tits of Zegen and Johnstone.

by Anonymousreply 124April 30, 2023 11:22 PM

I kind of want to learn that at some point, Zelda and Janusz killed the Maisel parents. Abe in particular deserves a slow and painful death.

by Anonymousreply 125May 1, 2023 12:11 AM

I actually like Midge's parents. THey're nuts.

by Anonymousreply 126May 1, 2023 10:54 AM

I like the Midge parents too.

But I really like Joel's parent - Shirley Maisel steals almost every scene she's in.

by Anonymousreply 127May 1, 2023 12:54 PM

Alex Borstein will get an Emmy for the most recent episode.

by Anonymousreply 128May 5, 2023 11:43 PM

I thought the same thing r128.

by Anonymousreply 129May 5, 2023 11:47 PM

I love just about everything about this show. Susie is my favorite character, and never fails to make me laugh.

by Anonymousreply 130May 6, 2023 12:05 AM

Best episode of the series.

by Anonymousreply 131May 7, 2023 3:03 AM

I liked her on MAD TV but I can't stand that troll doll on this show

by Anonymousreply 132May 7, 2023 6:53 AM

My ABSOLUTE favorite scene of all time was when Susie crashes some lady’s funeral, the actor himself had died and Susie touched on an emotion I get every time someone dies and I don’t find out until months later, because some self absorbed cunt forgot to tell me.

My great dad had a huge send off of a funeral, where the entire town and hundreds of people showed up to pay their respects on a July 4th weekend, so it’s really hard for me to see no one show up for a funeral.

Alex Borstein needs to win an award for this!

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by Anonymousreply 133May 7, 2023 8:55 AM

[quote]Alex Borstein needs to win an award for this!

Well, then you just make her one and trot it on over to her.

by Anonymousreply 134May 7, 2023 10:35 AM

There has been no diminution in the beauty of the clothes. I don't know that they're keeping up to period, exactly, but the period they're stuck in is more stylish anyway.

I am continuing the policy I've had since halfway through Season 2 of fast forwarding to the next outfit of Midge's or her mother's, or watching with the sound off while doing a crossword. I loathe Sherman Palladino's work, including all her characters, but all hail the costume designer.

by Anonymousreply 135May 7, 2023 10:40 AM

Just saw the most recent episode, that was tremendous from start to finish. Borstein nailed the look and the mannerisms of the old manager cunt who's seen everything and is tired of everyone's shit. The way she rolled up to her roast and was the first to leave in particular made me laugh.

by Anonymousreply 136May 7, 2023 11:45 AM

I loved it, but thought it was a little over the top at times. The Midge storyline was annoying, but I guess they had to come up with a way to get her mostly out of there so they could create a great episode. It really was great television.

Nobody watches the show for Susie’s clothes, but I thought the styling and clothes for her more mature years were fantastic. She evolved into a more professional, sophisticated version of herself. Susie dressed exactly like a man and being a successful agent in the decades of her career would not have made sense.

I really enjoyed the scene Susie has with Ford’s wife in the prior episode. I wish they’d had more time to develop that storyline.

Midge never bothered me that much before the last few episodes, but good god she is awful. Her “snappy delivery” makes me wish a bus would hit her. Not that they give her great material. Her stand up routines are terrible.

by Anonymousreply 137May 7, 2023 12:56 PM

It's famously impossible to write good stand-up for a TV show. I find it better than similar efforts in that regard.

by Anonymousreply 138May 7, 2023 1:02 PM

I imagine if TV writers could succeed at stand-up, they’d be doing it.

by Anonymousreply 139May 7, 2023 7:14 PM

SNL has managed to do it for a while. Yeah there have been some bombs and bits that didn't work, but t hey've managed.

by Anonymousreply 140May 8, 2023 2:46 AM

They write skits, not stand-up.

by Anonymousreply 141May 8, 2023 3:16 AM

Sherman Palladino wrote a character who was a comic and therefore was tasked to write standup routines for that character that not only were funny but should have allowed the audience to believe the character, through her standup, was charismatic and appealing. Sherman Palladino failed in this for five years. Midge was miserably unfunny throughout. Sherman Palladino should have hired actual comics who could have written funny standup sets instead of the crap she wrote.

by Anonymousreply 142May 8, 2023 11:52 AM

That's been such a small part of the show looking back now, I really don't get this hangup all these years later.

by Anonymousreply 143May 8, 2023 12:10 PM

I think the reason some of Midge's bits weren't as funny as we hoped is because we weren't just seeing a one dimensional comic doing their routine as we do when we watch an actual stand up performance. We are seeing her as a fully realized person with a back story and a life beyond the stage. And even more important we are seeing her in the earliest stages of her career, and watching how it progresses along with all the bumps in the road. Living in an apartment, losing it, buying it back, having parents, children, an Ex, and in-laws, riding in cabs, getting bad bookings, etc. So we have a totally different context to see the character in, as opposed to the background we'd fill in and invent for some comic we see on TV, or at a club.

by Anonymousreply 144May 8, 2023 1:07 PM

Huh, see what I'm thinking when I watch Midge's standup routines is how much I'd like to suck on Joel Maizel's beautiful tits and maybe jack off on them...

by Anonymousreply 145May 8, 2023 2:57 PM

[quote] Sherman Palladino wrote a character who was a comic and therefore was tasked to write standup routines for that character that not only were funny but should have allowed the audience to believe the character, through her standup, was charismatic and appealing. Sherman Palladino failed in this for five years. Midge was miserably unfunny throughout.

Midge is based on Joan Rivers. If you ever watched an early Joan Rivers routine, you realize that only about one of every five of her jokes were funny. Midge has never gotten as mean as Joan was during her “fat Elizabeth Taylor” era but Midge’s comedy is 100% early Joan Rivers.

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by Anonymousreply 146May 9, 2023 1:53 AM

I know a lot of you loved that Susie episode, but they are spending to much time on the side characters for a final season when they should be concentrating on Midge. I’m still awaiting something to justify the qualifier of Marvelous and quite frankly I don’t think it’s going to get there by the end. I certainly don’t care about the cook/maid getting married and I’m sick of her parents especially the father. I only know Tony from that Tucci restaurant movie and people have always said he’s a good actor, but he just comes off as autistic and irritating in this and a very little goes an extremely long way. If anything the Lenny Bruce character should have been bumped up to main cast and the time spent should have focused on him and Midge. And the actor who is Rachel’s real life husband seems completely a nepotism casting and pointless. At least he’s cute, but he’s almost indistinguishable from the talk show host and they seem the male equivalents of Shiska goddesses for the Jewish woman to work off of and spark.

by Anonymousreply 147May 9, 2023 3:05 AM

[quote], I recently read an interview with the show runner, who said each episode script was 50% longer than a standard script, based on the pace of delivery.

I wonder what percentage longer was the script for West Wing or That Sportscast Show With Felicity Huffman and Josh Charles that Flopped

by Anonymousreply 148May 10, 2023 8:39 AM

"Sherman Palladino failed in this for five years. Midge was miserably unfunny throughout."

You're wrong and the whole point of the series was that her real life was often funnier than her stand up. The character of Midge is funny as fuck. Her stand up routines are funny given the time period the series takes place in. What people found funny back then is really different from what we find funny here in 2023.

I love the show and am sorry to see it go. It's been great this season but nothing can top the Catskills episodes.

by Anonymousreply 149May 10, 2023 8:51 AM

R147 Susie isnt a side character, she's as much of a lead as Midge, and has been from the start.

by Anonymousreply 150May 10, 2023 9:16 AM

Everyone but Midge is a side character, just like Maude was about Maude and The Mary Tyler Moore Show was about Mary. Everyone else is supporting, it’s right there in the title.

by Anonymousreply 151May 10, 2023 1:16 PM

Who's the star of Moby Dick?

by Anonymousreply 152May 10, 2023 1:28 PM

I'm not wrong, R149. She's forced and unfunny. Great for you that you love the show, but to me she's an asshole and not at all amusing.

by Anonymousreply 153May 10, 2023 1:28 PM

the one big flaw in an otherwise great show is that her act's not funny

by Anonymousreply 154May 10, 2023 1:37 PM

Her act is not funny and neither is the rest of the show.

by Anonymousreply 155May 10, 2023 1:47 PM

The truly big flaw is no dicks.

by Anonymousreply 156May 10, 2023 1:48 PM

^ but Joel Maisel has some nice big sexy titties

by Anonymousreply 157May 10, 2023 2:38 PM

I prefer when shows dump all the episodes at once. Because it givens continuity. I can't remember from one week to the next. And I lose the atmosphere created by the show which, IMO is key to appreciating it. You watch an episode, you react to tension building or you pick up the nuances, an d then it evaporates. Ofcourse I know why they do it. If you want to watch a particular series, and you binge it, the way the streaming services are set up, you can cancel them after you binge. Where as, with one episode a week, they get more $$$ out of you.

by Anonymousreply 158May 10, 2023 3:34 PM

R148, The West Wing scripts ranged from 5,000-7,000 words. The Ozymandias episode of Breaking Bad, for comparison, was 3,200.

by Anonymousreply 159May 12, 2023 10:38 AM

The time jumps are hard to follow.

by Anonymousreply 160May 12, 2023 4:32 PM

Hank Azaria is still sexy even as a codger.

by Anonymousreply 161May 13, 2023 12:14 AM

Azaria, Shalhoub, Johnstone, Sweet Tits Zegan...and not one cock shown in that entire bunch of bananas.

by Anonymousreply 162May 13, 2023 2:55 PM

The roast episode felt forced. Like, the entire thing had a “For your consideration” ribbon. The equivalent of Oscar-bait, so I guess Emmy-bait.

by Anonymousreply 163May 13, 2023 6:03 PM

Mrs. Maisel is not without its flaws, but overall, this show should win Emmys. It is very unique. I'm loving everything about it, especially the clothes and Midge's parents are hilarious. Joel's parents are more slapstick, but I still love them too. And don't get me started about Lenny Bruce/Luke Kirby. Damn he is sexy. So glad t hey're doing another series and he will be the central character. Luke, not Lenny.

by Anonymousreply 164May 13, 2023 7:28 PM

Was that Sutton Foster’s audition to do a biopic series about Mary Tyler Moore?

by Anonymousreply 165May 14, 2023 3:06 AM

Please god, no.

by Anonymousreply 166May 14, 2023 1:06 PM

Won't be hard to say sayonara to this show, but I do miss the actor who died who'd played the club manager. The guy playing Archie was ripped apart on another DL thread.

by Anonymousreply 167May 14, 2023 1:18 PM

Midge is thoroughly unlikable.

by Anonymousreply 168May 14, 2023 6:26 PM

Still no marvelousness, and again more unneeded time given to the cook/maid.

by Anonymousreply 169May 14, 2023 7:08 PM

The cartoonish obliviousness of Midge and parents is just irritating at this point.

by Anonymousreply 170May 14, 2023 11:34 PM

why are you guys still watching if you hate the show so much? I mean, there are other things on TV to watch.

by Anonymousreply 171May 16, 2023 4:31 AM

There’s got be a big death before the end right???

by Anonymousreply 172May 16, 2023 6:33 AM

[quote]why are you guys still watching if you hate the show so much? I mean, there are other things on TV to watch.

It's called hate-watching, r171.

by Anonymousreply 173May 16, 2023 6:44 AM

It's called dumb-watching r173.

by Anonymousreply 174May 16, 2023 7:59 AM

Why are you posting about people posting, R171?

by Anonymousreply 175May 16, 2023 11:27 AM

R172, there is a BIG DEATH in 1965 and I sincerely hope the show doesn't include it.

by Anonymousreply 176May 16, 2023 11:47 AM

I enjoy the two leads but I’m not sure why Tony Shaloub at The Voice is a necessary subplot. Nothing interesting happens there. The Joel and Mei storyline was long and dull. The matchmaking with the lead character’s was okay but that went on too long. The show only finds it’s groove when Brosnahan or Bornstein are onscreen.

by Anonymousreply 177May 16, 2023 11:50 AM

Agree. How much time was wasted on Shaloub's misspelling of Carol Channing's last name?

by Anonymousreply 178May 16, 2023 12:00 PM

R177 the characters are well to do New Yorkers in the 60's and the Village Voice was a Leftie progressive news paper finding its footing back then. And since they are Jewish, the whole match maker thing is really important. It was a thing back then among the affluent Jews, even if you weren't Orthodox. Joels father being in the garment industry, and Joel running a night club, all of it, all those characters give us a flavor of the times and the place.

by Anonymousreply 179May 16, 2023 12:10 PM

A flavor, fine. They give us an overload.

by Anonymousreply 180May 16, 2023 2:15 PM

Which seems totally appropriate to that milieu.

by Anonymousreply 181May 16, 2023 2:24 PM

I thought Abe's storyline took a nice turn this week and made some earlier scenes really pay off.

I also thought Princess Anne's appearance on the Gordon Ford Show was funny...funnier than any of Miriam's stand-up bits.

by Anonymousreply 182May 21, 2023 6:26 PM

Margaret, you mean. But Ann would have been funnier.

by Anonymousreply 183May 21, 2023 7:45 PM

Thanks, r183. I guess I don't know my BRF.

by Anonymousreply 184May 21, 2023 7:46 PM

At least you knew it wasn't that ruthless slag Camilla...

by Anonymousreply 185May 21, 2023 9:09 PM

I can’t believe they fucked up the chance to have Helena Bonham Carter reprise her role as Margaret, the could have carved out a hundred thousand from the bloated costume budget and hired her for the cameo. It’s unrealistic that every outfit everyone wears is new each time. People had a few good outfits they wore in rotation. Those clothes at this point wouldn’t fit in the Classic 8.

by Anonymousreply 186May 21, 2023 9:43 PM

Helena Bonham Carter is 20 years too old to play Princess Margaret in the mid 1950’s

by Anonymousreply 187May 22, 2023 12:34 AM

R187 she didnt play her in the 50s. She started playing her in the mid 60s. Still a bit too old at that point in Margaret's life but not 20 years too old.

by Anonymousreply 188May 22, 2023 1:15 AM

Oops nevermind. Didnt see you were responding to someone about the lady playing her in the last episode. However, this wasnt the mid 50s. Isn't the main story in the 60s?

by Anonymousreply 189May 22, 2023 1:16 AM

Right now it's either '61 or '62. They mention it in one of the episodes.

by Anonymousreply 190May 22, 2023 2:59 AM

“I’m still awaiting something to justify the qualifier of Marvelous“

See also: Rory Gilmore

by Anonymousreply 191May 22, 2023 4:01 AM

Reid Scott is hot as hell--even though I thought he was good looking bit not exceedingly so on Veep.

by Anonymousreply 192May 22, 2023 8:33 PM

Only one more episode. Sexy Joel could at least give us one ass shot!

by Anonymousreply 193May 22, 2023 8:35 PM

No such luck, r193

by Anonymousreply 194May 26, 2023 6:32 AM

I just finished watching. I loved it. The final episode is very satisfying.

by Anonymousreply 195May 26, 2023 12:14 PM

Have to agree, even though I've hate watched most of the episodes.

by Anonymousreply 196May 26, 2023 12:39 PM

I loved the scene in the Chinese Deli......no spoilers....

by Anonymousreply 197May 26, 2023 1:28 PM

The phone bit with her mom was so sweet, as was the taxi chasing scene. Shame the actor playing Moishe couldn't make it for Midge's big scene. Completely missed the fact that Julie Klausner was playing Maggie from the office across the street.

I'm not familiar with Carol Burnett, but my god that segment of hers was everything. Was she really this spellbinding in real life?

Luke Kirby gracing us with one final sexy smile that damn near charmed my panties off. So glad they spared us the whole tragic ending.

by Anonymousreply 198May 27, 2023 4:17 PM

[quote]Was she really this spellbinding in real life?


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by Anonymousreply 199May 27, 2023 5:20 PM

Basically, they hit all the right notes for the close. I guess Midge’s act would have been much funnier at the time than it us to us , She’s playing a pioneer. Like Diller and Rivers. Comedy is of its time.

by Anonymousreply 200May 28, 2023 1:47 PM

Except thar Diller and Rivers were funny, for their time. Midge, not so much.

by Anonymousreply 201May 28, 2023 2:03 PM

Has anyone ever mentioned whether Midge is funny or not?

by Anonymousreply 202May 28, 2023 2:34 PM

Susie has always been my favorite character throughout the series. Her delivery is so spot on, I was even laughing my ass off at that silly skunk joke. The golden mules she was wearing were a nice touch too. Where was she living with all those parrots? Mexico?

Overall I think the ending was perfect.

by Anonymousreply 203May 28, 2023 3:44 PM

Midge did seem too rich for a successful comic. Maybe she used the time travel and got in on Microsoft early.

by Anonymousreply 204May 28, 2023 4:10 PM

I know Brosnahan’s stand-in, Meg. She stood in for Rachel all five seasons (same height, complexion and hair color).

They gave her a small part onscreen in the final episode. I’ll love them forever for that.

by Anonymousreply 205May 28, 2023 4:22 PM

Pretty sure Susie was supposed to be in Hawaii. Did she ever get laid in the series?

by Anonymousreply 206May 28, 2023 6:54 PM

Beef, The Other Two, Ms Maisel finale (flashback to 2006, I know)... Three times in two months I've seen those hexagonal glasses in shows now, I guess they are officially a thing.

Old Susie looked amazing, they even gave her the liver spots and everything.

by Anonymousreply 207May 29, 2023 2:04 PM

^well given that Borstein is over 50, Susie Meyerson’s probably in her 90s in 2006.

by Anonymousreply 208May 29, 2023 4:55 PM

I know, that's why I liked that they aged her skin everywhere, not just on her face.

by Anonymousreply 209May 29, 2023 5:10 PM

I would have placed Susie in her late 70's early 80's. Midge would be in her late 60's early 70'.s. I don't think they were more than 6-8 years apart. Susie just looked really bad compared to Midge. the JAP.

by Anonymousreply 210May 29, 2023 5:12 PM

Hopefully Rachel Brosnahan will disappear now.

by Anonymousreply 211May 29, 2023 5:13 PM

I want more Luke Kirby. I watched a movie of his about three years ago and he was hot.

by Anonymousreply 212May 29, 2023 5:39 PM

He’s the star of the producers’ next series.

by Anonymousreply 213May 29, 2023 5:53 PM

Rachel is not the problem. Midge is.

by Anonymousreply 214May 29, 2023 5:53 PM

From the start, Midge had sharp edges. I don't think she was ever this endearing Jewish housewife. She was emotionally brittle, and mouthy, and competitive. Certainly not your typical housewife in the 50's and early 60's. She was even kind of obnoxious. Her friends loved her sense of humor and her audacity. But the character was always "performing." She did it to submerge her feelings, she did it as a protective shell against feeling hurt, and she did it to hide or soften her ambition. (not very successfully in that last one.) Even when we were rooting for her, on her side, she often did things that were infuriating or seemed inexplicably cruel. Maybe Joel cheating and leaving her was a huge trauma she determined to never feel that bad again. She needed to prove how tough she was after that. To recover and succeed. But Midge was not a likeable heroine.

by Anonymousreply 215May 29, 2023 6:34 PM

In their phone call, one of them jokes about Susie moving to a different continent to get away from Midge, so I was guessing SE Asia.

by Anonymousreply 216May 29, 2023 7:24 PM

R216 she could have been in South or Central America.

by Anonymousreply 217May 29, 2023 10:35 PM

Hawaii, dummies. It was the spot where she stood up Phillip Roth at thw altar

by Anonymousreply 218June 2, 2023 12:37 AM
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