The Fall of the Roman Empire (1964)

Great score

I’d rather discuss The Rise of Roman Todd.

As an inhabitant of the modern world, I was startled by the beauty of the recreation of Ancient Rome's Great Forum.

Movie is well acted. Well scored, but it never lands

Previously on DL, mein Imperator.

Also within the last year, mein Imperator.

R5 and R6 lol That was me I think

no comments?

It was okay, but there was room for improvement.

Stephen Boyd has a big head.

[quote] Stephen Boyd has a big head.

Not anymore.

He was hot in his helmet

[quote]The Fall of the Roman Empire

Has that happened yet?

[quote]He was hot in his helmet

So Stephen is cut, then.

I haven’t seen it. A movie about little Romulus Augustulus. Interesting.a

Or is it about Constantine XI Palaiologos?

Speaking of Romulus Augustulus, there is a movie about him, The Last Legion, starring Thomas Brodie-Sangster and Colin Firth. In it Romulus flees to Britain where he is later revealed to be the father of King Arthur. Merlin is played by Ben Kingsley.

It was a complete failure

The OP is an obsessive list-maker. Addicted to empty cutting-and-pasting.

Silly op, the Roman Empire didn’t fall in 1964. If it had still been around then, I would remember!

[quote] Anthony Mann, Ben Barzman, Basilio Franchina, and Philip Yordan

These people are nobody hacks.

Chuck Heston refused to appear in this "melange" (ie. hodgepodge or mishmash). Talented thespians in small roles and boorish fools in large roles.

Good sets and crisp photography.

R19 I don't cut and paste. I research and like to give people credit. Why do you hate me.

Recall an interview with Sophia when she said Boyd was on her least favorite leading men as he was a bit "cold to women".

^ fag

[quote] The Fall of the Roman Empire

In contrast with the "declining empire" theories, historians Arnold J. Toynbee and James Burke argue that the Roman Empire itself was a rotten system from its inception, and that the entire Imperial era was one of steady decay of its institutions. In their view, the Empire could never have lasted.

This mess of a movie shows insufficient decadence. I'd rather a doco by Arnold J. Toynbee instead of this cinematic melange by an American Dumbo whose real name was Emil Anton Bundsmann.

Was he gay?

Was Emil Anton Bundsmann gay?

He was a Theososphist who thought the young Krishna could walk on water.

Raquel Welch said Stephen Boyd turned her down.

[quote] Russell Crow

R9 Russell Crowe

I imagine this is like watching a video cartoon, splashed large. If you want to see a great series about Rome watch the two complete seasons of ROME on HBO. Quite wonderful, all and appropriately nasty, messy, real and decadent.

This was a boring movie

I agree R10.

The OP's poster seems to imply the two people on the left are the stars while the three on the right are supporting players.

This poster is much more egalitarian — and democratic.

R23, he may not have been attracted to her. She's top-heavy with big lips.

R23, R24, R26, R28, R33

We've been gossiping about him for 45 years but we still haven't heard anything credible about the private life of this attractive male-model.

Stephen Boyd was married, therefore he was not gay

I hate when they put spoilers in the title.

I remember it as turgid. The editing was so slow and stately that it was snore inducing. Loren had nothing to do except collect a paycheck and the male stars were each given a cinema moment. They looked like movie stills.

Anthony Mann is a director of some excellent westerns and film noir.

Unfortunately, somewhere around the late 1950s his movies turned boring and bloated and seemed to be the work of a bloated hack.

I love this move. Just as I love "The Greatest Story Ever Told." Endless. Turgid. Fabulous.

This short speech by Marcus Aurelius was the highlight of the movie.

Yes r40, I was about to post a similar comment. They wasted far too much time on the romance but Alec Guinness and James Mason's scenes make the film worth watching.

Oh R30--you speak for me!!! I think I love you!!!!!!

Was Boyd a homosexualist?

The title is misleading . The empire lasted for 284 years after Commodus. Not counting East Rome.

Christopher Plummer as Commodus is only interested in "gladiators and games." He plays the part as a gay villain.

[quote] The title is misleading . The empire lasted for 284 years after Commodus. Not counting East Rome.

The film actually addressed that right before the closing credits.

Hic est plenus movie

I’d like to see this again, where is it streaming?

R48, why do you need to stream it when r47 posted a link to the entire movie on Youtube.

[quote] The film actually addressed that right before the closing credits.

Here's the part of the film I mentioned at r46.

Stephen was very handsome

Recall in some retrospective interview Sophia said she didn't get along with Boyd because "perhaps he didn't like women".

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CGI was so good back then.

Tell Sophia that Stephen was 'discovered' by Michael Redgrave when he was ushering at a theater in Leicester Square.