The January 6 Hearings Part 5B

Will we ever find out what WH counsel Cipollone had to say last week?

You mean Patsy Baloney?

We're going to see him a lot this Thursday night, I imagine.

What time is the hearing on the 21st?

8 PM Eastern

Thanks EL

So what do we think will be the topic? I don’t think anything has been announced, but we know it’s going to be a doozy. I say Cipollone… hah I just pictured them holding a seance to contact Ivana and had a chuckle.

We still haven’t covered the Willard hotel night before story or WDDD day of play by play.

Thanks, ElderLez!

Is Thursday in primetime?

I hope this thread lasts. I became so confused in the past because there were so many previous threads that were pretty much numbered the same, etc that I just gave up. I think that these are very important hearings and would like to read and participate in the discussion here on DL. But, when one can't track what thread is what then... well, what's the point...

I think only thread 4 (not the b version, the one where the OP was insisting no one was armed) was the only one that didn’t last.

Link to previous thread.

Do we get more Kinzy Thursday?

Maddow is saying AG Garland issued a memo saying no indictments until after the midterms. He issued it back i n May.

That’s not exactly what the memo said R15.

It was a lot of bullshit about sensitivities and the need to appear unbiased. If they want to indict a presidential candidate, it has to go directly through Garland.

[quote] The House Committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol attack has abruptly decided to extend its work/existence beyond September and could keep operating beyond this fall's congressional elections, the panel's chairman says.

[quote] Representative Bennie Thompson said Monday the committee also has decided to abandon its initial plans to issue a final report in September -- and that that document will now be merely a "scaled-back" interim report.

Here's the Rachel clip

Kinzinger indicated, sometime in the past 24 hours, that the hearings WON'T be over until sometime after Thursday, that they could last for some time, and that lots of new information has been uncovered. I doubt he would just be blowing smoke about this, at this point.

As Chris Hayes put it last night, Thursday's hearing is the season finale, but not the series finale.

Of course, if the Republicans take the House this fall, as expected, the committee will meet an abrupt demise in Jan. 2023.

Bennie Thompson has tested positive.

Will they postpone or will Liz chair on Thursday?

Tomorrow's witnesses.

Matthew Pottinger, who served on former President Donald Trump’s National Security Council before resigning in the immediate aftermath of January 6, 2021, will testify publicly at Thursday’s prime-time hearing held by the House select committee investigating the US Capitol attack, according to multiple sources familiar with the plans. Pottinger is slated to appear alongside former Trump White House aide Sarah Matthews. CNN previously reported that Matthews, who served as deputy press secretary in the Trump White House until resigning shortly after January 6, 2021, was expected to testify publicly.

[quote]Of course, if the Republicans take the House this fall, as expected, the committee will meet an abrupt demise in Jan. 2023.

Wouldn't count on that media narrative until it actually happens. Overturning Roe has pissed off plenty of voters.

"The U.S. Secret Service has determined it has no new texts to provide Congress relevant to its Jan. 6 investigation, and that any other texts its agents exchanged around the time of the 2021 attack on the Capitol were purged."

I'm SHOCKED, I tell you.

☝️shadyass cover-up

R14, yes he will! Adam will be the lead questioner.

"Many agents’ cellphone texts were permanently purged starting in mid-January 2021 and Secret Service officials said it was the result of an agencywide reset of staff telephones and replacement that it began planning months earlier.

The result is that potentially valuable evidence — the real-time communications and reactions of agents who interacted directly with Trump or helped coordinate his plans before and during Jan. 6 — is unlikely to ever be recovered."

I would ask for the DoJ to round up ALL the SS phones and take them for evaluation. There has to be one phone that wasn't reformatted..

It's interesting how there were those that thought Hillary should be hanged because she deleted some emails... With this Secret Service issue? Hmm... nothing to see here. Nothing is out of the ordinary...

Well I’d like to see all documentation about that reset.

[quote]Adam will be the lead questioner.

Shirtless, I hope?

[quote]starting in mid-January 2021

So approximately three weeks after an unprecedented domestic terror attack on our nation’s Capitol they decide to continue with this alleged “upgrade” and don’t think that maybe, perhaps, something relevant may be erased?

Yeah, okay.

Can anyone imagine what would’ve happened if after Butterfield’s testimony, the Nixon White House said, “Oh, yeah, but we erased those tapes as part of an upgrade to the taping system. Oops. My bad, yo.”

Primetime baby, no need to take off from work to watch in real time!

During that last hearing, Bennie T had me choked up listening to him explain what role government plays in our lives.

I completely forgot that states once routinely denied citizens of their civil rights until the Feds stepped in to correct the problem.

But we were planning it for a whole three months! Right after we started planning the break in.

I wonder if the new equipment was bid. If I weren’t a lazy huer I’d try to look it up.

Fantasy RFP: “Task 2 - contractor must securely destroy all previous communication such that no Congressional panel can ever access it”

Is this yet another example of Hillary's bleach?

I am fucking tired of all of this. We know enough. We don't know eveything, but we know enough. Seal Team Six, baby.

Nope.

He did not foment a terrorist attack all on his own.

Everyday, more stuff is uncovered.

BREAKING: The House passes the bill to codify same-sex marriage by a vote of 267-157.

All 157 NO votes were Republicans.

And yet 47 of the 267 YES votes were also republicans.

And, you see? Democrats are just too slow! Just look at this;

Log Cabin Republicans @LogCabinGOP

BREAKING: 47 House Republicans just voted to codify marriage equality into federal law!

We thank these forward-thinking members for voting to settle this issue once and for all and move the GOP in line not just with the country, but with its own voters.

Our statement ⬇️⬇️

List please. I wanna see how many closet cases kept it in the closet. Did Gym stand up for his love of young locker room sauna cock?

that isn't the point r41.

Realistically speaking, the purging of the phones was clearly intentional & I doubt they'll ever recover much, if anything (duh) 2) why can't lead Trump lackey SS agent Tony Ornato be compelled to testify under oath about the events of 1/6. Unless someone rolls on him, they'll never get anything on him, but at least they might get enough to fire him

It’s 2022, and 157 House Republicans just voted against marriage equality.

That’s where they come down on this issue.

In 2022.

I would vote against it as well.

R47, why are you here?

Hmm... okay, I'll bite R47. What are your reasons that you have to justify voting against the bill? Let's not be shy. Share and let's discuss. I mean you feel confident enough to share how you would have voted so therefore you should have no hesitation in explaining your reasons for such a vote. Or, are you just a troll?

If it's the latter then you are REALLY part of the problem. It's sick motherfuckers like yourself who think this is nothing more than fun and games and get your jollies off of causing dissension and whatever else rather than taking yourself to a fucking therapist/psychiatrist where you need to be. We're talking about REAL lives here. REAL people who will be affected by these decisions. Just ask many women (and I TOTALLY blame them for this Roe fiasco) as they now face the consequences of their apathy.

So, step up R47. Tell us your point of view. You might have some that will either agree with you or at least better understand your position even if they don't agree with you.

Adam Kinzinger said the upcoming January 6th Committee hearing “is going to open people's eyes in a big way.”

Defacto doesn’t want there to be any gay marriage.

r47 in the *Have you avoided catching COVID? How did you do it?* thread:

[quote]I don't hide in my basement. That's how.

R52 - ok, that explains it.

I love the campaigning from the basement trolls. Just because candidates don't love the adulation about bitching and moaning in from of a bunch of rubes like he's a white trash Hitler from a balcony in Austria.

[quote] states once routinely denied citizens of their civil rights

You say that like it's bad!!

Watch it, r55, before somebody cuts yer brakes.

Who wants a governor who rolls around in a chair when he doesn't have to?

I'm not defending the SS, because I do believe they have been corrupted. But just from a procedural point of view: Their singular purpose is guarding the President. Yes, I know they do other things, but their mission is the POTUS. So when a new POTUS takes office, they have to transition to guarding him. That's the priority. So would it be that unusual to deal with text messages and phones, etc in that context?

Yes. And here's why: The forces of evil are all over the place. Threats, plots, etc. And the SS is constantly coordinating with HLS, and other agencies to track and monitor. So archiving information including text messages has to be standard operating procedure even if it is filed away in the archives. Because in a crisis you don't know what kind of info is going to prove important. So in spite of what the SS is saying, some kind of way they have to find the text messages. It strains credulity to listen to the bullshit excuses they're inventing.

My eyes almost popped out of the sockets watching Mike Flynn take the fifth when he was directly asked by Liz Cheney if he believes in the peaceful transition of power!

[quote]It's interesting how there were those that thought Hillary should be hanged because she deleted some emails... With this Secret Service issue? Hmm... nothing to see here. Nothing is out of the ordinary...

That's because the democrats are weak, lazy and useless pussies.

They could have used the patriot act to lock up most of the republicans, but they can't be bothered. They're content to be blocked by the republicans decade after decade. They simply refuse to think outside the box and get rid of the republicans. It's 2022 and they govern like it's 1822.

r42, it is funny that they are thanking the Republicans and not the 220 Democrats who moved the bill.

Log Cabinets know that are hated in their own party.

Sad.

Miz Linzey has ACCEPTED her invitation to the cotillion down in Atlanna!! She will be the belle of the balls!!

Graham accepted service of a subpoena. He is still fighting its legality.

R60, I know you mean well 🙄🙄🙄 but can you imagine Dems sweeping up Republicans and using the Patriot act as the reason? And without an investigation and charges that go through our normal system of government? It’s not happening.

[quote][R60], I know you mean well 🙄🙄🙄 but can you imagine Dems sweeping up Republicans and using the Patriot act as the reason?

It's far past time to stop thinking in the mindset of party and "what if a Democrat did this or a Republican did that". This is simply about what is right and what is wrong. There needs to someone or a group calling this all out and calling it for what it is. This same person and/or group should be publicly questioning the patriotism of many people, questioning their competence/ability to rear children, etc. IMHO, this isn't about Donald Trump anymore. It's more about all of the people who are complicit and have facilitated this mess. Were it me (President Biden) I'd call for the resignation letters of top management for the Secret Service to be on my desk within the hour. If they don't want to resign then they would be fired and escorted out of the building. I'd start there and then work my way all through this mess. I mean... how does Sidney Powell still have a law license? Just on and on with all of this mess.

These hearings certainly don't seem to be making Trump think twice about his behavior:

Assembly Speaker Robin Vos says former President Donald Trump called him last week in another attempt to convince Wisconsin Republicans to decertify the state’s 2020 presidential results.

After Vos told Trump decertification would be unconstitutional, Trump took to Truth Social to label Vos a RINO>

[quote]These hearings certainly don't seem to be making Trump think twice about his behavior:

Because there have practically been no consequences for anyone. So what! Giuliani has lost his license to practice law in NYC and Washington DC. Who was really going to hire him anyway? Also, just because he can't practice doesn't mean that he can't consult and get paid? There have been no negative consequences here for anyone--definitely white privilege at work here, and so why should anyone stop what they're doing?

Blocking r67 Division Troll talking points will make the page load slower, but he’s working overtime to make gay Democrats feel defeated, and I’m tired of reading his rants.

R62 I can't wait to see her big entrance!

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

CNN needs to do pre show special of Adam K preparing for the big night. From shower, to walking around in manderwear and dressing for the occasion as though he was preparing for an awards show. Ratings would soar.

That troll is in another thread screaming the dems are pushies for letting pukes take away women's rights. the troll doesn't understand why anyone votes for pushies

Inflation comes and goes but the removal of the right to privacy, now, is permanent.

There is no reason to vote for any candidate of the Pro-rape party.

[quote]That troll is in another thread screaming the dems are pushies

Thank you, Liza.

Thanks r74. I had no idea what Liza was talking about at r72.

I have R75 blocked.

The heart, it breaks!

I have r78 blocked.

[quote] how does Sidney Powell still have a law license?

I thought she lost her license.

Not to interrupt a good fight and stating of boundaries, but it looks like the Thursday night hearing is going to be all What did Donnie Do Day of. If this is really “all till fall” for the televised hearings I think we are missing the Willard Hotel hearing. Please, please, please let that because they are all getting arrested by DOJ and the committee doesn’t want to impinge on a case.

What time is the hearing tomorrow?

PRIME TIME BABY, 8PM.

You have yourself blocked, R78? Why?

Powell has not lost her license so far. The TX Bar Association filed a petition against her and she unsuccessfully tried to have it dismissed.

Her hearing is set for October so we'll see what happens. She could be disbarred, merely get a temporary suspension of her license, or just a formal reprimand.

Since it's TX, I'm not too hopeful for disbarment, even though that's what she deserves.

Tbh, I don’t even trust the military anymore. Too many of these people are compromised and being fed Fux noise on bases day after day.

Maybe the officers and top brass aren’t but everyone else is.

Nope. The only people I trust are those who I personally know who work for the Federal government. Peons who do the day to day work and have ZERO contact with dump, his enablers, his family or his slimy lawyers.

Purge every last one of these traitors everywhere then go straight to the tree for decent people.

Rusty Bowers, the speaker of the Arizona state House who testified before the Jan. 6 committee, has been rewarded for his honesty with a censure from the state GOP.

Bowers is "no longer a Republican in good standing," declared Kelli Ward, chairwoman of the AZ GOP in announcing the condemnation.

^Wow the whole lot of them are just plain vile. There is no bottom to how far they are wanting to go. This is disturbing to a level that I thought had already previously been reached. Telling the truth is actually frowned upon.

Hamlet was an inside job.

Whatever happened with Patty "Onions" Cipollone?

Ruskin setting magats head on straight.

Raskin is autocorrected to Ruskin

Sorry, I'm not seeing a Part 5A, could I get a link from someone?

There is no A.

If those people in Arizona censured Bowers for what was actually EXTREMELY cautious, deferential, and *conservative* testimony, they really ARE nothing more than deranged NAZIs. Real, honest to God, fascists. That's really unbelievable. Think how STUPID those people are. They NEED to be led around by the nose by a criminal like Shitler.

This better not be like another Mueller investigation. Guilty people need to be punished! If Trump is allowed to run for president again - after all these hearings and evidence, I am calling bullshit on the entire thing!

R94

There are good Germans, but there are no good Nazis.

There are good Republican party members but there are no good magats.

I don't like me, r83. I'm also blocking r97.

[quote]there are no good Nazis.

Dunno, the dead ones are fine by me.

But I like you, r97. Don’t block yourse—

Damn. Too late.

Thank you, r84.

[quote] [bold] The study, which was shared with NBC News ahead of its publication, logged and analyzed the motives of 417 Capitol rioters, all of whom have been charged in relation to Jan. 6. [/bold]

[quote] A plurality of rioters cited either their support for Trump (20.6%) or Trump’s false belief that the election had been stolen (also 20.6%) as their primary motivation for their actions that led to charges on Jan. 6.

[quote] The third most frequently listed reason defendants gave to law enforcement for entering the Capitol was their belief that they were participating in “revolution, civil war, or secession.”

[quote] About the same number of defendants in the study claimed they were at the Capitol to “peacefully protest” (7%) as those who claimed they were there because of a “general interest in violence” (6.2%).

[...]

[quote] “Trump called us. Trump called us to D.C.,” Rodriguez told the FBI, explaining why he went to D.C. on Jan. 6. “If he’s the commander in chief and the leader of our country, and he’s calling for help — I thought he was calling for help, I thought he was I thought we were doing the right thing.”

[quote] The sizable trove of evidence released in connection with Jan. 6 criminal cases illustrates the motivations of Capitol riot defendants in other ways. Recently released police body camera footage, presented as evidence in connection with Jan. 6 case, shows members of the mob chanting “Fight for Trump” inside the Capitol as they try to fight past police officers attempting to remove them from the building after the mob broke through the door on the eastern side of the Capitol.

The Secret Service has begun producing records pursuant to the subpoena we issued last week and our investigators are assessing that information.

We have concerns about a system migration that we have been told resulted in the erasure of Secret Service cell phone data.

The procedure for preserving content prior to this purge appears to have been contrary to federal records retention requirements and may represent a possible violation of the Federal Records Act.

The Select Committee is seeking additional Secret Service records as well.

Oh how I do hope Kinzinger wears a tight wife beater to the hearings!

They need to get their personal phones.

AND their home and work laptops.

Another big, coordinated FBI raid.

Prosecutors said a Minnesota man faked a politically motivated attack in an insurance scam.

They said Dennis Molla sprayed pro-Biden and BM graffiti on his garage then set it on fire.

He sought a $300,000 insurance payout plus GoFudMe donations, an indictment said.

Part 5C is here:

Color me shocked, r107.

We aren't interested in a troll thread, r108.

R110 I'm sorry?

Attorney General Merrick Garland on Wednesday reiterated that "no person," not even a former president, was above the law amid calls from some congressional Democrats to charge Donald Trump after last year's Capitol riot.

During a press conference, a visibly animated Garland twice said that "no person" was above the law when pressed specifically about Trump, whom Democrats say incited the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection over his unfounded claims of widespread voter fraud in 2020.

File R112 under I'll believe it when I see it.

People were on social media the last couple of days saying he already decided in May he wasn’t going to prosecute Trump no matter what, and let a bunch of potential charges expire without acting. People this morning were extremely angry about him dragging his feet. They were calling for Biden to fire him and hire Sally Yates. So he’s just trying to save his job, he’s not going to do anything. And Biden won’t fire him. Make a bad hire, live with it forever and never fix it, per Biden. Even Lincoln fired generals in the middle of the civil war.

He has a history of Christian Nationalism, antisemitism and claims to be "one of the least racist people"... Seth Abramsom says Ziegler is the protege of Peter Navarro and

[quote] I can assure you that a run for Congress by Ziegler is in the fairly near future—and that when he gets there he will make Matt Gaetz look like a member of The Squad. I’m not kidding—the generation of Trumpists coming up is even more full of brownshirts than the current one.

From CNN

[quote] In the 27-minute livestream, Ziegler used vulgar and misogynistic language to attack Cassidy Hutchinson and Alyssa Farah Griffin, two women who worked for the Trump White House but have since publicly broken from the former President and cooperated with the January 6 panel. He also accused the January 6 House select committee of being "anti-White," without any evidence. (The nine-member panel is led by Rep. Bennie Thompson, a Mississippi Democrat, who is Black.)

[...]

[quote] On his Telegram channel, Ziegler continues to promote debunked conspiracy theories about the 2020 election. He falsely claimed in recent posts that "the election was stolen" and that the January 6 attack on the US Capitol "was one of the greatest orchestrated false flags in history."

[quote]Seth Abramsom says Ziegler is the protege of Peter Navarro

"Protege"...is that what they're calling them these days?

He just gave us all a gift. He sounds like an unhinged closet queen. Most of the American public, Republicans included, believe Cassidy Hutchinson. That was fucking embarrassing. He wasn'tt even hiding white grievance. He was donna go with it. CRINGE.

He is heretofore known, r117. as Donna Gowithit.

I can't keep up with all these hearings, subpoenas, trials, indictments, records requests, etc. anymore. I'd be reading all day.

You do you, r119.

So will they be playing Ziegler’s rant tonight? That was unhinged. Thots & hoes?!

The Jan. 6 committee plans to use its Thursday night hearing to call out insurrection-friendly lawmakers who cowered during the Capitol attack but have since downplayed the insurrection’s severity.

“They have plans to paint a really striking picture of how some of Trump’s greatest enablers of his coup plot were — no matter what they’re saying today — quaking in their boots and doing everything shy of crying out for their moms. If any of [these lawmakers] were capable of shame, they would be humiliated.”

I can’t wait to see this!

Maybe we'll see Miss Lindsey soiling her panties.

[quote]Maybe we'll see Miss Lindsey soiling her panties.

Erna? Erna is that you?

I would cower if I was being tear gassed. I would also downplay the severity if I later found out that no one was anywhere near the chamber when the tear gassing was done and Capitol Police did it without rational cause.

Hopefully AOC will be there to regale the world with her harrowing tale of hiding in a toilet stall fearing she'd be raped.

She was actually in an office building down the street at the time, and there's video footage of her calmly being evacuated.

But still! Imagine how it would feel if that had happened? Look what Trump has done to America, that he would even cause a lawmaker to make something like that up. Thanks, Cheetolini.

“Both sides!” Division Troll at r127.

I think the traitor troll is losing it. The poor thing’s incoherent.

don't know what you are going on about.

J6 was a terrible event to witness, right up there with 911.

It's ridiculous to hear people say, get over it. The same people who "never forget Benghazi".

Hills, an unelected gvt official is responsible for Benghazi. But dump isn't responsible for the tour of the nation's capitol on J6?

R126, truly one of the stupidest comments ever on DL. Does DL give out awards? You should get and DLEmmy for stupidest post of the year. That was epically dumb!

Traitor trolls just make shit up

Well who are you going to believe? Your lying eyes? Or anonymous traitor trolls?

R133 What eyes, lol?

Sounds like the appendix thread to this one, Part 5C, is lacking a zany Madlibs template about "traitor trolls!" Maybe something like this?

"The Nazi apologist on this thread claiming [refutation of crazy group delusion] probably also believes [ridiculous conspiracy theory]! What time is it in [Russian city] Boris? This same poster has also said [normal opinion on a pop culture topic] repeatedly on other threads! Remember to BLOCK traitor trolls everyone!"

The Nazi apologist on this thread claiming that they would cower in fear if they were being tear gassed probably also believes Queen Elizabeth is a inter-dimensional space vampire! What time is it in Arkangelsk, Boris? This same poster has also said that Rachel Maddow is an embarrassing cow repeatedly on other threads! Remember to BLOCK traitor trolls everyone!

Do you guys realize that r126 is ALSO r127 r134 and r135 ?

He's posting all kinds of both sides nonsense, pretending to be different posters.

Block him and stop responding to him.

^^Ignore-dar proof of r136 .

He’s also the OP of the other January 6th threads, R136. Block, don’t block, it’s a personal decision, but my understanding that if there a lot of blocked posts, the thread gets greyed out and obviously I’d prefer that not happen to this thread.

He's also, r108, r136. Definitely brain damaged.

Y'all are hilarious.

I am completely stunned by [total nobody] and [his/her vacuous gossip]! Trump engaged in [behavior most people find charming]! Do you think he was really planning [lengthy incoherent scenario]?

We need to send [mail destined for the trash] to Merrick Garland so he'll stop stalling and BAN TRUMP for good!

[quote] Y'all are hilarious.

And you are just boring.

I am completely stunned by [the fill in the blank asshole] and [their insipid post]! Trump engaged in [public masturbation]! Do you think he was really planning [to leave quietly]?

We need to send [Gym Jordan] to Merrick Garland so he'll stop stalling and BAN TRUMP for good!

Attorney General Merrick Garland stated [vague platitude] when asked about the ongoing January 6th investigations at [public event]. Adding "[comment open to interpretation]," and emphasizing [obvious generalization].

Yawn

The Hill: Steve Bannon’s lawyers will not call any witnesses or introduce any new evidence in his criminal contempt trial after prosecutors spent less than two days laying out their case against the former White House strategist.

Must be counting on at least one MAGAt on the jury.

Apparently Part 5B is proving Part 5C totally irrelevant.

Not in the least surprising, that.

Part 5C is just one troll masturbating.

The secret service needs to be investigated and have all the traitors rounded up.

The thought occurs to me that the reason rethugs constantly harass and attack Dems is fear. They’re terrified of being found out. The only way they can distract their idiot voters is by distracting them. Hence all of the show investigations, trials and threats of investigations.

They project their filth onto Dems then continually scream about it until the media reports it as fact instead of ignoring them for the histrionic jackasses they are.

They know that if the depth of their treason, lies and brainwashing is exposed to their cult, there would be hell to pay FROM THE VERY PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT THEM. Their voters would turn on them.

The ones who wake up and see will be like ex-smokers. Always ready to tell everyone about the evils of the GQP.

They can’t risk it. So they scream louder, threaten their own investigations, distract, deny and project. So pathetic.

I believe that is true of many of them, R150. But there is also a sizable percentage of them who are motivated by something else:

Contempt.

They truly don't think the rest of us have any claim to "their" resources. Take for example someone like Bill Barr who spent his entire career manipulating the system in hopes of creating a Christian theocracy. While his actions at the moment may be explained as you do here, he is, at heart, little different than MTG who is just full of hate and indignation.

It's really telling how screwed up things are when the DHS Inspector General only decides to take control of the SS text messages situation now that it's a major scandal. The IG of the SS knew a year ago that the messages were deleted and, I assume, kept mum because a). he hoped no one would find out or ask about them or b). was privy to an attempted cover up.

There are too many far righters in federal law enforcement - time to truly drain that swamp.

^while I think that is true, don't underestimate the amount of laziness & incompetence in the government. There have been problems with the SS for years & it's nearly impossible to fire civil servants, so I am not the least bit surprised that they were given a directive & said "fuck that!" and didn't do it, thinking there would never be any consequences

Link for this evening specific discussion (thanks to whomever the OP of that thread is.

Also this one. Thanks to this OP as well.

The only reason Tump finally agreed to make a video telling the insurrectionists to go home "we love you" is because by that time, he knew his attempt to stop certification had failed. That is the only reason.

That fucker was in his dining room, calling members of Congress urging them to try to delay the vote certification. He was fucking relentless.

Melania Trump says she was 'unaware' of the January 6 insurrection as it was happening

(CNN)Former first lady Melania Trump said in a new interview with Fox that she was "unaware" of the ongoing riot on January 6, 2021, because she was too busy photographing a rug in the White House.

"On January 6, 2021, I was fulfilling one of my duties as First Lady of the United States of America, and accordingly, I was unaware of what was simultaneously transpiring at the US Capitol Building," she said.

Trump said it was her "duty" as first lady to archive the contents of the White House, which is not exactly true. The White House curator and the White House Historical Association are predominantly responsible for keeping a record of the contents of the official White House collection.

No

Who was the Clark Kent cute guy to the left of Pottinger? Great tan, very handsome.

[quote] she was too busy photographing a rug in the White House.

Is rug her pet name for her hoo-ha?