Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Part 2 - The Dark Crystal and Eri-Cunt

What is up with Crystal? Is she that sensitive or is she just trying to get noticed?

So what did Sutton actually say?

Never mind; I looked it up and what a tempest in a teapot. Crystal is desperately trying to stir the pot. She needs to let go of trying to paint Sutton as a racist, because nobody is buying it.

She told Crystal a story about her kids playing in the pool with kids of multiple ethnicities and said that's the way she wanted to raise her children - in a multi-cultural environment. For some reason, Crystal took offense to that.

If you think about what Sutton said versus how it was articulated, you could somewhat understand how a person of color might interpret it as problematic. I think Sutton meant well - but basically saying -I'm not grossed out by having people of color in my jacuzzi or swimming pool implies that there's maybe something off about it. Kinda like saying my Uncle HeeHaw has a black wife and we don't treat her any different...

It is problematic.

They are gaslighting Crystal telling her she is gaslighting Sutton. Crystal is very bad at making her point but I get it. She is saying look you may not think what she said was problematic but I did. To me it was offensive but we worked it out. I see everyone's point that leaving it open-ended makes you think the worst but Crystal was trying to say look we had problems we worked it out and now we are friends.

Ericka and Kyle are not helping out at all. I think Ericka just wants to paint Sutton as a racist to get her off the show.

I fucking hate Erika.

Erika just wants the heat off of herself. Hey look at this racist she's 1000x worse than me who stole food from the mouths of grieving families so Mikey could get bigger lips.

Diana just needs to say goodnight. She's thoroughly unlikable.

R5 I understand that, but what Sutton said was far from "dark." It may not have been well-articulated, but it certainly wasn't a racist remark.

Crystal, as usual, overreacts.

R9 Yeah, the whole sequence of her sending her minion out to set up her room before she got there was ridiculous. Diana's desperately trying to paint herself as some kind of Beverly Hills royalty to whom we should all bow down.

And when the closet railing wasn't high enough to keep Diana's dresses from touching the ground, the minion actually asked the hotel employee if he could make the closet taller.

Jesus Fucking Christ.

I agree. It wasn't dark at all. I guess she either needed a storyline or she's just not good at defending her actions off the cuff.

Link to previous thread:

I hope Garcelle lays waste to Erika next ep. Also wtf with Rinna talking about throwing out accusations when we know she does the exact same thing later in the season (not saying she's wrong about Kathy's homophobia but awareness, girl.)

Dorit: I was traumatized when I got to the Mexico hotel because they put me in a ground floor suite and I'm triggered!

Also Dorit: I was attacked in the second floor bedroom of my home!

r10 be fair - there was a big gkass patio door to the outside. I would be triggered too. I get the "that didn't sound racist" gang, but remember at the time Crystal was having problems with Sutton and lets be honest. Sutton is weird. She has terrible skills in coping and explaining.

I'm interested in this subplot about Crystal clamoring for the attention of the most rich and powerful and tossing her friends aside as she tries to get it.

Is it just me, or does anyone else get pissed off seeing Erika board a private jet to party in Mexico knowing she embezzled money from the families of people killed in an airplane crash?

Crystal said on WWHL that it wasn’t the pool story that triggered her but yet another story Sutton told but she doesn’t want to talk about it and Sutton apologized. Diana is giving off ‘one season wonder’ vibes.

R19, ugh. Crystal’s not coming back either if she keeps this shit up. This is not how the game is played on these shows.

R19 If that's true, then why didn't Crystal speak up at dinner and say, "That's not the story I was talking about?"

Crystal is full of shit. And I love how she tells Kyle she'd better be careful using the words like "gaslighting" when Crystal throws around words like "dark" and "violated" without impunity. When she said "words are a Rorschach test" I so wanted someone to be like "no, bitch, they'e not a Rorschach test. Words have *actual* meanings." I was also really glad Garcelle was there since it's clear that Crystal wants to hide behind a "these white women just don't understand" defense, but Garcelle makes it impossible for her to do that.

Diana's story about her miscarriage was fucking deranged. To say the doctor told her "Put the phone down. Your baby is dead." and to then describe the baby as having "fallen out of her" makes me feel like all of her stories need to be taken with a huge grain of salt.

That story was gross. In Oklahoma she would have been put on trial for murder!!!!

Also bitch, you're 50. Stop trying to have babies.

R23 Yeah, that whole story was just odd and barely believable.

And I love how she acted surprised that Kyle didn't know about her miscarriage story. Is this bitch so delusional that she actually believes she's so well known that people should be aware of her personal history?

I'd never heard of this bitch before she showed up a few episodes ago.

All of this with Crystal is boring. They need to bring on Aspen and Kathy Hilton’s racist and homophobic slurs.

Crystal just needs to stop targeting Sutton. Sutton is practically special needs in the way she can't express herself rationally, but she's not a bad or cruel person and everybody can see that. Just leave her alone and pick on somebody who deserves it like oh say, ERIKA.

"I'd never heard of this bitch before she showed up a few episodes ago."

We have.

Signed,

Jeffery Epstein's sex slaves

I agree r27. Every minute spent on this bullshit non-story with Sutton is a minute that could be spent grilling Erika.

R29 I really hope they get off this lame "dark story" bullshit and start going full-on with that cunt Erika.

Diana must be on some pills. She seems like she's moving underwater. Her fashions are tragic and the face is botched.

Diana's head looks like a party balloon.

R31 Whenever Diana walks into a room, she acts like she's walking into a germ infested roach motel, afraid to touch anything and looking around for a place to sit down where she won't get any dust on her.

God, uppity refugees are the worst. She's forgetting the war was the best thing that ever happened to her. She hit the fucking jackpot.

I'm very upset I haven't even been given "friend" status this season. You should see how she's been using me when the cameras aren't rolling.

Diana is trash and I believe the human trafficking stuff.

What Sutton said about a pool full of minorities was awkward like lots of things Sutton says, but not racist. Kyle needs to STFU though with the gaslighting/shit stirring as does Erika.

I do want to know more about Crystal throwing her other “friends” under the bus.

Is her PTSD all Dorit has this season? I’m tired of hearing about it!

Sonja said something about black and white fish in a pond to Eboni and I think even named the black fish Eboni and was waved away like nothing. By contrast, there’s a chance that BH will fixate on this Sutton story until whatever is coming up with Kathy finally happens (also offscreen). Such different shows…

Ramona IS problematic and should have been fired.

No mention of the fact that Garcelle's son is working for LVP?

Diana is there because Erika lost the Private Jet and they needed someone who had one. They will keep her around as the rich bitch until she gets bored and leaves. SHe is estimated to be worth 300-500 million so her presidential suites and pre-check-in people who set her up when she travels are believable. SHe just has nothing to add other than being the richest one.

Diana has all that money. We have yet to see her in a nice outfit that fits well. Her hair is nothing. Zero style. I believe she just wears whatever "designers" send over.

Her Northface Gucci running suit was ugly. I thought Kyle ivied in Bel AIr? That is like a hop skip and jump from bev hills.

R39 Garcelle announced it 2 eps back in Palm Desert. Everyone kinda laughed about it & Lisa laid on the ground in a pretend faint.

I think Kyle lives in Encino.

Kyle lives in Encino now, her old place was in Bel Air (the one Sutton is renting) I believe.

Dorit lives down the street from Kyle in the Valley.

Garcelle also lives in the Valley.

Rinna lives in one of the Canyons, I think it’s Benedict Canyon.

Erika is slumming it in Hancock Park.

Crystal and Kathy live in Bel Air.

R45 Why don't they just rename the show "Real Housewives of the Greater Los Angeles County Area," since none of them live in Beverly Hills?

None of these bitches lives in Beverly Hills. Meanwhile, the original cast of the Real Housewives of New York City gave Alex and Simon shit for living in Brooklyn, which they didn't consider "the city"

This season is boring. Privileged white women of a certain age are always racist and homophobic. No film at 11.

I want to know if Farrah is getting married because she's pregnant with Mauricio's baby.

Which psychotropic drug are we betting Suttons on this season?

"Real Housewives of the Valley" doesn't have the same ring, does it?

Isn’t Kyle in Calabasas?

The real housewives of Encino just doesn’t have the same ring lol. Although, I will say Toluca Lake is nice… For the valley.Except for homely hills, most of Beverly Hills proper it’s really kind of gauche, it’s just a Recognizable name. The bigger money entertainment money is in Belair, Brentwood, and all the way out to Calabasas, Woodland Hills, Malibu.

The actual “wealthy” part of LA though would most definitely be Palos Verdes, more billionaires per capita than most of the city, but that’s not show business money. However, you have to go through Torrance to get there so most people forget about it lol.

Erika’s former place in Pasadena was historically where the really old money was, but it’s a bitch to get to if you’re working in the greater Los Angeles area so you really have to be married to living there. Lots of bang for your buck though.

I agree, Erika needs to shut the fuck up, and Crystal is just a whiny fucking millennial (Coming from a whiny millennial) Garcelle used to annoy me, but she is a great check on crystal's minority bullshit. Poor Sutton, I think she’s on the spectrum… Andy Cohen is cruel.

Kyle of course has been Kyle, but she’s actually had really good work done that nose job made her look 10 years younger.

Lisa Renna is horrible, but I love her and she can do no wrong in my eyes despite being Such a fucking pot stirrer. She’s the only real actress on the show.

And Dorit can go to hell for making trauma victims look one size fit all, I’m suspect about what really happened in her bedroom. I mean to her her husband make (grift) all their money off Boy George?

^ Excuse siri’s mistakes

R43, I know. I was referring to DL commenting about LVP's name being mentioned.

I think crystal is an asshole too but less annoying than Kyle. I feel like Sutton I’d authentic though she may be weird and maybe doesn’t always say the right thing.

I’ve had a couple dreams about LVP lately. In one, I was brokering a deal to get her back on the show. I was standing in the middle between the RHOBH vets who were facing her. LVP was crying, & I was soothing her, telling her, “Lisa, these are your friends, they love you & would love to have you back!”

IRL I do like her & miss her, but I accept her as being the shady bitch she is. I think if she would own up to her duplicitous ways, her fans would like her even more!

Kyle’s house is filthy. I would not eat a thing there. Those dogs are a menace.

There were two shots of Kyle’s flabby ass in jeggings this week.

No buena, amiga.

I did laugh when Diana side-eyed Kyle's hors d'oeuvres, knowing full well that those dogs had licked everything on the table.

The best part of the episode was Garcelle (and Sutton) shading Dorit’s Spanish speaking in the other car.

Kyle saying how hilarious it was when Paris said "YASSSSS" instead of "I do." So lame. Loathe Diana.

Love Garcelle. The fact that she seems to genuinely like Sutton makes me like Sutton more.

As if Bravo would have footage of Sutton saying something racist and wouldn't air it. PLEASE. Crystal is ridiculous.

Sad about Lisa's mom. She was old but it's always sad. Her mom was very cute.

Erika... what a sociopath.

Dubai is dull except for Chanel Ayan. Imagine a cross between Iman and Phaedra Parks

I saw her on WwHL & she seemed really interesting but over the top. She said her fave BH housewife Is Kim. WTF?

Garcelle's scenes at the beach with her sister were adorable though I was laughing that Garcelle even talked mild shit on her own sister! She absolutely takes no prisoners and I love it.

Crystal and Kyle's conversation was fascinating, like watching aliens trying to pretend to be human and struggle through a conversation in a language neither of them quite know.

Erika is heinous and I am disappointed that she's gotten off so easily this season. I guess the reunions will be rocky with all the shit Garcelle's been talking in the confessionals/that bizarre exchange Erika had with the producer (Andy will roast her for that one) but we're far away from that.

Crystal really does give millennial and awful name. And she’s far too old of a millennial to be pulling the shit she’s pulling. Every person in a minority has the right to drop that trump card where their personal impression of a situation becomes the ultimate, unquestioning truth and if that impression is one of offense, the person who committed this heinous act must pay the ultimate consequences. That card will work and people won’t call you on it, but you win the battle and lose the war. Everybody is onto your scam and people think you’re garbage.

Crystal was an eighteen-year-old escort who met a successful, semi-pedo Hollywood director and has spent the past twenty years hobknobing with Kathy Hilton and being the chairwoman of the lucky club.

Spare me the woman of color bullshit. If the “darkest” thing in your world is Sutton making a positive comment about an integrated pool, congrats on having an easy fucking life and stupid fucking problems.

R63

Kim was amazing on the show, and many fans miss her. Her feud with Rinna was an iconic Housewives moment.

Garcelle was totally right about Crystal looking for a way to set Sutton up. First Crystal gets offended when Sutton says she doesn't see color. Then Crystal gets offended when Sutton mentions all the colors she does see. It only makes sense if Crystal is out to get her.

R65 So Crystal used to love you long time?

Crystal's got issues.

Crystal was told to turn up the heat to keep her spot on the show so she’s throwing a bunch of shit out there and figures somethings bound to stick.

[quote] Crystal was an eighteen-year-old escort who met a successful, semi-pedo Hollywood director and has spent the past twenty years hobknobing with Kathy Hilton and being the chairwoman of the lucky club.

Whoa! Link?

Do you think there’s something more sinister to Diana’s and Crystal’s friendship?

Both Sutton and Crystal are so autistic that watching them explain the "dark conversation" is like watching a modern dance number with lots of weird jerking movements that ultimately makes no sense.

"LOOK. I said--my kids--in a pool. Right? There was a--LET ME EXPLAIN! My pool. We were talking y'all. Red-headed stepchild. It wasn't dark. But two of the kids were. And my kids. Pool. It just looked so nice. I didn't marry a lawyer who stole from burn victims, Erika. Fuck you, too. I just thought that's how life should be like. My pool. We talked about this last year. Last. Year."

For someone so concerned about micro aggressions and troubling conversations about race, Crystal had no problem dismissing Garcelle’s intelligence by saying, “I know Rohrschach is a big word” to her.

If I were Sutton l would have beaten her over the head with that sentence.

R75 yes Twitter went nuts that she said that to Garcelle. That comment completely sunk her.

"You need a new villain? Well, here I am "

Yeah, you're real tough, Miss Never Been in a Store Because of Dust Allergies.

R75 …

How did Diana meet her super rich ex? Was she a prostitute?

Jeffery Epstein introduced them, I imagine.

The Dark Crystal. Hahaha.

I'm enjoying watching Kyle try to handle Crystal's BS. She doesn't wanna come right out and call Crystal a stupid cunt, but I can tell she wants to.

R61 “Kyle saying how hilarious it was when Paris said "YASSSSS" instead of "I do." So lame.”

Right? Such a pathetic way for her to name drop. Kyle has had her nose pressed against the glass of other people’s lives since she first appeared as “Aunt of Paris Hilton” on the first episode of The Simple Life. Meanwhile, I’m sure Bravo was allowed to use only the approximately 5 seconds of wedding they showed because Paris of course had her own plans with the wedding recording.

The thing about Kyle is the dynamic with Kathy and Kim will never change. Kathy is the prettiest and the richest. Kim was the more famous and successful actress. (And she really was: Kim was a very big child / teen star in the 1970s and worked nonstop for 15 years.)

But Kyle never quite had her own thing…until RHOBH, which was sold to Bravo as a package deal with Kim & Kyle…aka Kim doing Kyle a favor…because Kim had more name recognition and no one knew Kyle. So Kim helped Kyle, just like Rick Hilton employed (because Kathy asked him to) Mauricio to help Kyle.

It doesn’t matter how financially successful she has become: Kyle will ALWAYS be insecure. Even Kyle delivering Kathy to Bravo (convincing Kathy to appear on RHOBH) was another way that Kyle feels she has demonstrate her value / to sing for her supper with Bravo.

Kathy will return and turn out these bitches

I believe Sutton is on some of what Kim was on. There's definitely benzodiazepine for the broken sentences and amnesia, some Lyrica, pain pills here and there, Seroquel is probably the mood stabilizer. Plus raw alcoholism. Sutton doesn't huff, do Meth, or do everything in the garage like Kim does though.

Sutton has the same boxy no waist figure and chicken legs as Meghan Markle. The sight of Sutton in those jeans was sad, sad.

IMO Kyle is the best looking sister followed by Kim. Kathy is generic looking. If they were Gabors Kyle would be Eva, Kim would be Zsa Zsa and Kathy would be Magda.

Lol R85, ALL of the Housewives on every iteration being filmed is absolutely medicated to the gills along with lots of recreational drug use and alcoholism. Sutton is one of the more sober.

R85, I don’t know about the Seroquel. She’d probably be much heavier than she is now if she was taking that.

R71, it’s easy enough to figure out. Crystal made a “funny revelation” that she was a receptionist at an escort agency when was eighteen. But it was only “funny” in the way that she’d know it would come out eventually and that if she got in front of it she could say she was a receptionist. Everyone is always a “receptionist” at these places.

Where else does an eighteen year old Asian immigrant meet a successful Hollywood director aside from a massage parlor?

She’s a whore, darlin’

Krastle is just looking for a storyline at this point.

Without Kim, Vyle has no storyline.

Cryttle is brittle

Chystlemxyzptlk was stupid throwing her lot in with Erika and Vyle. She'll now be a two season wonder.

Kim being on the show wasn’t a favor to Kyle. Kyle was the first person cast. RHOBH producers saw her on the E! True Hollywood Story episode about Paris and Nicky and wanted her for their show. Kyle then helped them find some of the other cast members like Kim and Camille. If anything, Kyle did Kim a favor by getting Kim’s washed up ass back on TV.

GET UP KYLE….or don’t.

I bet if Mauricio dangled something from Van Cleef and Arpels a few feet from the bed on a fishing line she would be on her feet in a nanosecond.

R95 is right. On the other hand, the show hasn’t been the same since Kim left.

Kyle can’t move is my cue to return.

R90 Yeah. How many escort agencies have "receptionists?"

Are Dorit and PK gong to fake another robbery to stay on the show?

This season seems to have no interesting storylines.

Erika is a grade A cunt, but that has been known for some time now. Are the ratings down this season?

I thought for sure that Kim would make regular appearances on the show once Kathy joined, but she hasn't been on even once. What's going on? The last time we saw her was with the whole Brandi/Denise drama.

Diana is incredibly insecure, which is why she throws her wealth around in order to intimidate the other women. She knows that she's just a trashy gold-digger who hit the jackpot. She's dumber than a box of hair and can't keep up with the other ladies in conversation, so she always name-drops and brings up her wealth. Erika played the same intimidation games in order to protect herself, but she lost her golden goose. I guess you could say the same thing about Kathy Hilton, but she's much smarter and more refined than those two.

R101, Diana has cited her English as a reason she’s trailing behind in convos at least twice, which is interesting since she got to the UK 30 years ago. You may be on to something re: her intelligence.

Diana should put a fatwa on Erika!

Rinna and Crystal keep telling us how fascinating and charming Diana the ‘it’ girl is but, so far, we haven’t seen it. She looks like a fish wife.

Rinna is sucking up to Diana because she wants her to hire her useless daughters as whores.

More extreme cuntiness from Erika.

Will Ericka ever pays the victom?

They’re going to pry that jewelry out of her cold dead hands

Cite for racist Kathy being smart?

There was a quick scene of The Croatian whore and the Dark Crystal together I think right before the beach dinner. Crystal was looking adoringly up at Then whore like she was a big cool friend. Total puppy dog to her. Obviously Crystal is in awe of her alleged wealth and status. So sickening.

Crystal likes anyone with money and social status in Hollywood. Remember that obnoxious comment she made last year about Sutton-“I’ve never heard of HER before.”

Sutton has enough money to buy and sell Mrs. Lion King, and is well known in charitable circles, bring a trustee of MOCA and the American Ballet Theatre.

These bitches wished they had Sutton’s money and status, but an ex hooker married to the director of a cartoon isn’t in the same league.

I was always intrigued by Erika Jane in the preview. Something like “Well, if we’re going to talk about my troubles, let’s really talk about ……..”. Said in that bitchy, cunt tone. Maybe a teaser of things to come or taken out of context for the preview. Either way, this season needs more than parsing words like dark and violated.

I’m actually reading House of Hilton right now. A high school friend of Kathy’s literally referred to her as being “dumb as a nail.”

Kyle is such an ass kisser to Kathy. When Nikki got married, Kathy didn't invite Mauricio and half her kids. If my family did that I'd tell them to go fuck themselves and go no contact. When one of Kyle's girls graduated, Kathy didn't show at the luncheon. She called Kyle and said she was leaving for NYC. It isn't as if she has a job or obligation and couldn't take a later flight. I'm also pretty sure Kathy didn't go to Portia's Bat mitzvah. What kind of aunt is she and Kyle just takes it.

It was also obvious that Kyle didn't really know Kathy's house last season and Kathy's servants didn't know who she was. Kyle will spend her entire life trying to stay on Kathy's good side.

When Kyle’s daughter graduated Aunt Kathy May not have made it to the party but she did send a big check which is even better.

Kyle has no discernible personality. She sucks up to Kathy until the cameras are on (that is coming later in the season). She seems to pride herself on being a loyal friend and imagines herself to be a fun party girl (when the cameras are on). I bet Mauricio is miserable.

Mauricio is just fine, thank you.

Rick and Kathy gave Mauricio a job at their real estate firm when he married Kyle. Then after he had some success, he turned around and started his own firm which is in direct competition to theirs. I think he even stole some of their agents. Obviously, there is going to be some tension between them. I'm sure Rick and Kathy simply tolerate Kyle and Mauricio and try to be pleasant for the sake of family, but it doesn't go any further than that.

If any of these people lurk here and read this thread I am sure they'd have a good laugh watching us act like we know really anything about them!

^Kim Richards, posting from a Target parking lot

Kyle's dogs are so badly behaved. Like SO badly. You know they shit and piddle all over probaby too.

Bambi is quite the brazen hussy. I remember her stealing a whole baked potato from the dining room table a few seasons ago. I see that she's only gotten more brazen with time.

Hmm I was giving Sutton the awkward souther eccentri pass but maybe she is racist… “chinese” girl from the pool speaks out. (I think she’s actually Korean-American)

My pool's been desegregated since 1996!

Why oh why do these rich bitches put themselves through this show? For the majority they end up being torn down and occasionally built back up. I just don’t understand the deep need for attention that must motivate them. Someone like Dorit, this is her job—fine. But Sutton doesn’t need the money.

But I need to be IMPORTANT, R125!!

PK and Dorito have told their children one of them has to die so Mommy can be on TV again.

Lol R127

I truly believe Sutton doesn’t see color. Have you seen her godawful, mismatched outfits?

Exactly - she doesn't see ugly either!

I think Boy George hired the robbers to recoup some money that PK owed him.

I would never want to eat at Kyle’s house.

Erika looks really hard and beat without the gravy train. Like an aging Vegas prostitute.

It’s pathetic that they spend so much time on Crystal and Sutton. Yawn.

Does Kim make any appearances this season?

I started watching Potomac on that Peacock streaming service and I have to say - that group of women are much more interesting and funny. They need to recast RHOBH. Crystal is humorless and dull. Dorit is whining about a robbery the entire season. Erika is a sociopathic cunt hag. Diana is a vacant and nasty.

They should keep Garcelle, Sutton, Rinna and Kyle and hire 3 new women.

Bring back Camille, LVP , Kim and Taylor as the poor friend...ditch the rest as you said r135

God, no more Camille ever, please. Pernicious cunt.

Britney and Sam just bought a mansion in Calabasas. Make an offer, Bravo.

Is Sutton on the spectrum? Her first series she was all commanding and sneering with her Dolce & Gabbana rig outs. Then she went for Erika. Last series and this she's all paranoid about what the others think of her. Her moods swing wildly and she takes any form of critique very badly.

Not to hijack the thread but another vote for Potomac I only started watching last season and I think it’s the best HW show in the franchise.

Potomac is incredible. Gizelle v Karen in the hotel lobby in Funchal is one of the all-time HW moments.

The walls are closing in on Sutton and her dark racism. I can’t talk about it but its very dark, very dark and I still feel violated.

[quote] Bring back Camille, LVP , Kim and Taylor as the poor friend

Sorry, no to Granny Rancid Cunt and that tired old queen husband of hers.

Dream cast:

Kyle Rinna Garcelle Sutton

With the following returning:

Kim Brandi Eileen

Then round out the cast with some crazy rich Asian or Latina woman.

R143 Agree with your list and add Anna Shay from Netflix’s Bling Empire.

Kick off Kathy, Crystal & Erika, Diana & Sutton

Bring back Kim & Denise

New blood: Rachel Zoe or someone random like Maria Menounos

Rinna should be a friend of.

R145, keep Dorit but dump Sutton? Really?

Dorit can stay if PK is accused of setting up the robbery. Yes I’ve had sufficient with Sutton, too awkward and not bringing anything to the table imho. Oh I do think she is likely racist too but doesn’t think she is because she *let* her kids have friends of different races. (This is my partners family in VA to a T)

Sutton grew up in the south so I am sure she used words like “colored” or “chinks” all the time. She is way too defensive to not be racist.

lol this was a good reenactment of Sutton vs Crystal

Sutton needs to hire someone to help guide her through linguistic changes or else every interaction is going to lead to a crisis and nobody needs another Shannon (my ex husband David is a cheating cheater, who CHEATED!) Beador

Matt Rogers is really funny in 'I Love That For You' (the main character is so unlikable its bizarre that the show works). I loved the ugly leather pants predicament of last season, they were AWFUL enough to deserve calling out.

Dream Cast for me would be Sutton, Garcelle, and Kyle staying. The witch returning. Denise Richards returning. Rinna demoted to "Friend of" so that Denise could exact revenge. The witch to just tell off Kyle every episode. And add in Kelly Didd from OC because Brandi is so one note dull. And bring Heather Dubrow over from OC, too, because it ain't any of these bitches live in BH and it would cause fireworks with Kyle trying to suck up to Heather while trying to keep her from stealing the show and Kelly would drive DuBrow batshit crazy.

fuck no to Denise and her "cancer is your best friend" scamming husband that was 1 of the most despicable things ever said on a housewives' show. The fact that the other ladies just laughed it off instead of investigating him for that rather than the dumb Denise-Brandi hookup was annoying as hell

Oh dear. Sutton should never wear a 2 piece swimsuit and Diana has cellulite for days. Erika still travels with her glam squad. What a cunt.

Garcelle has a "Glam Person, too: "Robear" - a fat Irish guy named Robert whose closest experience with France was going to Epcot when he was twelve.

Yes but widows and orphans are paying for Erika’s glam squad.

I usually can’t stand Matt Rogers but he was hilarious in that reenactment as Sutton. He nailed it.

Man, Diane's timing is shit. If she had just shown up a few years ago she would have had about a baker's dozen of potential teenage sex traffic victims. Kyle, Rinna and Yolanda would have happily signed the kids up and Denise's would have signed up all on her own.

Diana is very much like the new Yolanda.

It was interesting seeing the 8 women break up into 2 groups with 1 of them firing up Sutton and the other Crystal. They all wanted a dinner confrontation which they got

Garcelle is stirring the pot as much as Kyle and Lisa this season

I was laughing at how invested Erika was in trying to take down Sutton lol

Dream cast for me would be getting rid of Sutton, Crystal, Diana, Erika, & Kathy. Bring back LVP, Brandi, & Eileen. Maybe have Teddi back as a friend.

Love Garcelle. She seemed to learn all she needed to about these women based on how they treated Denise. And she knows none of them, except Sutton, give two shits about her. I also love that she stirs the pot without cutting people off, raising her voice, storming out, throwing glass, etc. She's very LVP in her stealth cuntiness.

Oof Sutton in a bikini is shapeless,, can there be anything less sexy? Erika & Diana are heifers, glam can’t help that.

Anyone notice at dinner when Diana didn’t want to talk about her Room 23 book because of the scandal around it , the producer asks if she is a an intl sex trafficker, she doesn’t outright deny it, just dances around it. Interesting.

I miss Eileen. I’d be glad to have her back.

Erika is disgusting. Dorit has always been useless. Sutton is just too bizarre to enjoy. I don’t “get” this Diana at all. They can all go.

Something about Crystal fascinates me…I don’t “like” her exactly, but I’d give her one more season to figure out what she’s really about.

Kyle, Rinna, Garcelle, Crystal, Eileen, plus 2-3 new women would be good. Someone very rich, and another someone kind of nutty and/or famous. Maybe Cynthia Bailey as a “friend of” since she is CA based now.

Matt Rogers is A LOT, but I find him pretty funny.

[quote] Oof Sutton in a bikini is shapeless

Sutton indeed does have a very odd figure, but in general, nobody over 50 should wear a bikini. I don't care how much Cross-Fit they do; at that age there's too much sun damage and loss of collagen to look good in skimpy swimwear.

Dorit was barely in last nights episode. Everybody is sick of hearing about the break in so she’s back to no storyline. Crystal should stop the nice routine and go full blown cunt. Love how she admitted she’s too cheap to bring a glam squad with her. Next week we meet Drunk Erica. Garcelle is hilarious and I love the way she she’s right through the bullshit. If she wasn’t on the show she might be casual friends with Sutton but no one else.

Are we sick of this twats yet? Diana and EJG along with Crystal are insufferable. I wish Sutton would shut up the Bosnian cunt by asking her about her Epstein connection or her last job as an LA Madame

As far as I'm concerned, Crystal has *already* gone full blow cunt. Her crocodile tears over being an "easy target" were laughable since she's the one who's twice gone after the actual easy target in the group, the socially awkward Sutton. Crystal's MO is very clearly to start shit with the weakest link in a group and then, when that person snaps back at her, act like she's the victim so that people will rally around her. That's why she uses language like "violated" and terms like "safe spaces" (which no one her age uses) because it allows her to be an instigator while acting like a victim.

Agree, r168. Crystal is too smart not to know how much of a hard target she is.

Sutton’s going to snap I fear, not sure I want to see that.

R170 As long as she snaps all over that cunt Erika.

Kyle on WWHL said she thought Erika was being nice to Crystal just to get back at Sutton, hoping she would call her racist. That is some pretty nasty manipulative shit if that is what she thinks.. Dream cast. Lose Kyle, Rinna, Crystal, Dorito, Diane. Keep Sutton and Garcelle, add in some new blood. There has to be plenty of c list actresses they can get and former child stars.

I'm always looking for work!

Wait. So Erika needs a glam squad to get ready for breakfast and then go surfing? And again to wear a pajama top to dinner? Money well spent!

Erika is loving the chance to take Sutton down. She doesn't give a shit about Crystal - she's just an opportunity to her, like everyone else is.

I appreciated Crystal saying she would never waste money on a glam squad. If you have been to a Mexican beach hotel, glam is not needed. This made all the other over 50 women look even more stupid,

LIPPY RINNA: "I was thinking about my mother and had a good cry "

LIPPA MIKEY: "What's your outfit for tonight?"

The medium told Rinna to look for birds to see Lois. She pays for that? How about when you see a car, it’s Lois.

Rinna and her blow-up daughter are looking very plasticine. Erika is really showcasing her sociopathic side, and Crystal is getting plenty of rope to tie up a good noose. She and Erika are not even fun to dislike.

I'm growing more and more fond of Garcelles condescending 'mother-figure' brand of sanctimony. It's really needed on this show and she has a cool enough demeanor to make it work.

I'm looking forward to Kyle and Kathy going at each other like two beta fish in the same bowl. Their mother really did a number on those sisters.

Erika sounds like a drugged out MALE gangster.

The way Erika was talking to Sutton was driving me nuts, but it was kinda hilarious.

The last thing I needed to see in this episode was Erika's lardo cellulite ass hanging out.

I was completely on team Garcelle in this latest episode. Crystal crying, Sutton crying, Diana crying, and Erika being an all out cunt. Garcelle was like, "I'm just gonna eat my artichoke, y'all."

I think Garcelle has been to the school of Kandi Burruss. Kandi does the same thing - lets the others act like fools and get dramatic, while she sits back, eats and enjoys the show unless or until she gets drawn into the drama, then stand back.

Garcelle is not having it this season and I’m absolutely here for it. They need to give Garcelle support, bring one of her friends on.

I wanna know what Crystal did to lose 14 friends.

R185, Garcelle and Sutton are presenting almost like Heather and Whitney or Gizelle and Robyn—ride-or-die, always on the same side. Does Garcelle need more support? She seems like she’s doing well.

Diana on the latest episode: "I was really shocked by how my coffee table book that features a bunch of nude women in provocative poses in a hotel room caused controversy."

Did she think she was making a coloring book?

r188 People thought it was a catalog of high-priced hookers. Why? Lisa Rinna was in it.

Did Crystal meet Diana when she was working as a ‘receptionist’ at the escort service?

Bring back Yolandahausen!

R189 Lisa Rinna high priced? LOL!

She gives it up at QVC prices.

In most cases, I assume that any fired housewife would instantly return if asked, no matter what they've said to the contrary. Eileen for instance has said that she's not interested in returning but still pops up occasionally. Yolanda, though...I really wonder. She seems pretty committed to being momager/farmwife.

Eileen is a working actress and doesn’t need the show. After quitting the show she’s still friends with some of the women and occasionally pops up at a party. Yolanda is a fame ho and would return if asked.

Yolando won't come back - I don't think she and Erika are BFFs anymore since she is now butt buddies with Rinna who Yolanda hates. Sutton really has become the focus of the show. Sutton and Crystal, Sutton and Rinna, Sutton and Erika..most of the storylines revolve around her. They really need to get the Kathy/Rinna/Kyle story going.

R188 Also Diana: "I am a refined, classy woman. Now come look at this book I did with all these tits and pussies on display."

Erika, Dorit and Diana need to go. I’ll let everyone else stay for one more season under caution.

Bad tempered Hollywood wives are a dime a dozen these days. I liked Eileen and Denise because they were are employed as jobbing actors. What’s the point in having a Beverly Hills themed show if we don’t have a soap star and a Bond Girl? It was fun to see them prepare and rehearse. It’s a shame Rinna doesn’t get acting work any more. I remember she work d a day in a Hallmark movie; that’s the only non-soap work she’s done in years. I even enjoyed watching her prep for her QVC.

Who the fuck is on here stanning for Yolanda? Returning to RHOBH would be a 12 episode advertisement for her finding another rich husband.

Is it safe to assume Diana and one ex first lady are close friends?

R199, do you think that Hillz is friendly with her husband’s procurers? Maybe, maybe…

Keep my name out yo mouth, R199.

R201,

I think I ❤️ you...

Madam Diana Jenkins is currently being canceled on Twitter.

And she’s mad that Woke Millennial Crystal called her to “scream” at her about it.

What was this old hooker thinking? She has too many secrets and is too sensitive to be a Housewife.

Adding Diana was a mistake. She’s obnoxious but not in a fun way and doesn’t blend well with the rest of the cast.

Why does Andy never get called on adding these shady housewives who are racist or filming in problematic countries like Dubai?

bleck!

R197 Rinna was just back on Days, the primetime version, in her leading role as Billie.

I LOVED Rinna as Billie back in the day. DOOL was so good then.

Diana is too Euro to connect with viewers. LVP is English and they at least have a sense of humour about themselves and others. Eurotrash never translates well on television.

Diana has a Zsa Zsa quality that I'm sure the over 50s at Bravo thought people would love.

R154, Robear describes himself as an Emmy winning Celebrity hairstylist & "educator". These fags crack me up.

Diana is digging herself a deep hole on social media this week.

Poor, poor Diana. . .

R212, you just know "Robear" is the type to shop at "Jay Say Pennay" and "Tarjay".

I want to snack him without even knowing him.

Are you guys really not understanding that Robear’s name is a joke on himself because he’s big and fat? He’s probably incredibly annoying but you’ve gotta give the guy a little credit for putting a fat joke in his own name.

“Black content creator”

Oooo…Garcelle is going to have something to say about that.

Kyle really doesn’t like Crystal.

Is calling a black content creator a “black content creator” actually a slur? I don’t get why this is blowing up so much. You’re no longer allowed to “not see color” but I guess you still can’t say what the color is.

R219

Did you read the rest of the sentence?

That it can’t feel good to be a black content creator? It’s stupid but not offensive. If someone said it “can’t feel good to be a gay message board commenter” I’d say “no, it’s fine” not cry “homophobia!”

I would love to have a Reunion Show…..The Gays of Bravo. I’ll bet Cedric could dish all the dirt on Granny Pump and her sour husband. He knows. Mikey knows where all that money went. That super nelly Queen on Atlanta has the deets on those women. Even Vile’s party planner, the fat dude, knows all the going’s on in the Umansky household. And don’t forget Rinna’s gay squad. Maybe Kim wouldn’t say about “that husband of yours”, but they could.

I actually think it was a language mix up, that she meant “dark” content vs Black/African American content creator but I love seeing her try to wriggle out of this.

Kyle uses the dreaded M word to insult Crystal - Millennial

Diana's denials about being a madam were about as convincing as Erika's last season. I think she 100% was involved in a high-class sex ring. It makes no sense for the wife of one of London's top financiers to put out a sex book, a la Madonna, unless there was something else going on behind the scenes. She most likely was an escort when she met her rich husband. It's no secret that lots of beautiful young women from that part of Europe become escorts for wealthy men. It's where most of the high-class prostitutes come from. No wonder she and Erika hit it off immediately.

Not to mention Crystal’s history and she just happens to be friends with her. It can’t be a coincidence.

Hard to believe that Krystal was an escort. No bleached hair, no fake tits and ugly leather pants.

That would be a stretch.

I think Diana, Erika, Yolanda, Crystal, Denise, Camille and Brandi were escorts when they were younger. Rinna and LVP might have been as well.

R225 Yes, that's what never made sense. Here she is, already married to a guy with millions of dollars who works in the conservative industry of finance.

So the bored housewife just one day says, "Ya know, I wanna make a book that's nothing but pictures of women showing us their tits and pussies. Ya know, just for fun. What do you think about that, dear?"

R227 Are you kidding? Plenty of men are into Asian women. It's like a fetish.

"It's no secret that lots of beautiful young women from that part of Europe become escorts for wealthy men. "

Huh? Vat you say talking about?

Love Crystal rolling her eyes about the glam squads.

Erika is a fucking sociopath.

R232 The only thing I like about Crystal is that she didn't bring an entourage to help her with her hair and makeup and clothes. Of course, she's the youngest of all these bitches, so she doesn't have a lot of maintenance to do at this point in her life.

We'll see how she feels about glam squads in about 15 years.

Crystal is a hot bitch at nearly 40. At 18 she could have easily been a high-priced escort. No question.

R234 The last thing that comes to mind when I think of Crystal is "hot."

Cute? Yes. Attractive? Yes. Hot? No.

Opinions vary, of course, but when Crystal glams up and shows the bod, I think she’s hot.

R236 I'm sure that during her escort days, they dressed her up in a kimono and put chopsticks in her hair to appeal to the fantasies of her clients.

I was being silly 230!

They should cut Crystal. She’s an overly sensitive pain in the ass and just cries when there is conflict - and none of it is fun to watch.

Agree she is pretty with a good body. But that’s about it.

Love Rinna saying she doesn't even have 14 friends and cackling. Rinna is nuts but a good time.

Queen Dorit supporting us! She looks incredible!

Erika is turning into Caitlyn Jenner.

Doesn’t PK pimp out Dorit to pay off his loans?

R240 I was enjoying it until that fat criminal cunt Erika showed up.

Dorit got her butt done. Looks awful. Wow. She’s completely lost it.

Interesting that Kyle said on WWHL that she takes 5 mg of Lexapro every day. She used to be on 10 mg, but it affected her sex life so she dropped it down to 5 mg.

Is Lexapro an antidepressant?

R244 It's an anti-depressant, but it's also used for anxiety and panic attacks, and Kyle has a history of severe anxiety, so that's probably why she takes it.

I've noticed she doesn't seem to freak out on airplanes anymore, so it must be working.

There’s no way Erika was a high priced escort. $20 whore, yes. Anything above that, no.

R213 Diana's way too sensitive to handle the criticism she's gonna be getting for being on this show. She should call it a day after this season.

Why are they keeping Erika? She is a self-proclaimed bully and has no storyline (they don’t cover any of her various lawsuits, because they are not flashy). They could cut loose Erika and Diana and no one would notice.

Erika is giving lots of drama that's why. The producers didn't expect the start of the season to be about Dorit's robbery and a rehash of the Sutton-Crystal stuff. Soon that fades into the background and Erika becomes the focus again until the Kathy vs. Kyle and Lisa angle.

Do you mean that she mixes alcohol and antidepressants? Is that a storyline?

Pretty mess

[Quote] Do you mean that she mixes alcohol and antidepressants? Is that a storyline?

In this town, my storyline is my misbehaving dogs so I guess so. . .

I don’t see how Erika can ever get out from under all these lawsuits or tax bills. Many of them are going after her or her company directly. She would have to marry someone super wealthy to pay everything off but at 50 she is sliding south. She is asking for it by continuing to waste money on glam.

R251 Dumb cunt has the gall to say she doesn't have the ability to repay after saying she won't give up her glam squad.

The ratings for BH this season are better than Atlanta, so I assume it's now the highest-rated show in the Real Housewives franchise. I don't see them changing up the cast significantly anytime soon. Miami and Dubai are flopping and probably won't last much longer.

I already can tell they will gloss over Kathy’s racism and homophobic comments. They are talking about bringing Kim back, I assume as a friend. If Crystal stays it’s for diversity.

I’m sure Kathy “Hyuck Hyuck” Hilton will (undeservedly) get the benefit of the doubt. Kim shouldn’t be back on in any capacity, the show is bad for her health & her tenuous sobriety. I don’t get the hate for Kyle here, she’s the least worst of the 3.

Dubai and Miami are just plain tedious. So far BH isn’t as good as it was last season but these bitches still deliver.

Crystal is quite the smug little thing. Comes I guess from marrying a big old queen and knowing she's going to hit $$$$ should they ever divorce. He must also have a small cock, as a Chinese woman she don't know any better.

Nena Leask can move to Bervely Hill and get casted here.

I can’t believe you forgot about the most tedious franchise of all—RHONY. I’m sure you want to pretend it was an oversight, but I’m not buying it. Especially not on Juneteenth. So let me give you a long lecture on unconscious bias. And then another lecture on microagressions. And then another lecture on black excellence, okay?

Do your best (worst) Dataloungers!

[quote]I already can tell they will gloss over Kathy’s racism and homophobic comments.

They'll go easy on Kathy because she and Paris just did the marriage special on Peacock. They also don't want to damage Kyle's reputation since she is the anchor of the show. NBC Universal has too much invested in the Richards/Hilton family to hurt any of them.

God I hope Rinna doesn't make me like her by going after the execrable Hilton clan.

R261 Eboni was the worst thing to happen to the Housewives franchise since Carlton the Witch.

Will we be seeing Amelia Gray this season?

Those pictures at r266….they look like cheap whores. Rinna liked the post. What kind of mother would be proud of her daughters acting like a couple of streetwalkers?

R267. Rinna. Because she knows the only way her talentless girls can make money in Hollywood is as whores.

Both of Rinna daughters look like cheap ho’s...mother must be proud to have done her job so well

[quote] Kathy is the prettiest and the richest. Kim was the more famous and successful actress. (And she really was: Kim was a very big child / teen star in the 1970s and worked nonstop for 15 years.)

I think Kyle was actually the most beautiful of the sisters after she got that first nose job before RHOBH. She looked great up until two or three seasons ago when it was clear she had a lot of work done. But now the work is setllted and she looked good on RHUGT.

[quote] Yolando won't come back - I don't think she and Erika are BFFs anymore

They were never BFFs. It was so obvious that the show creators just introduced Erika as such to get her on the show. Do you really think Yolanda--who can't even deal with drunk women--would ever hang out with Erika without cameras? She wouldn't be caught dead with her unless there was some benefit to her,.

Kyle has that preserved plastic look where she could be 35 or 65.

R272, the problem is the glam look. It doesn't work for her. It ages her. On RHUGT, she looked much better without so much makeup and without the glam look.

Dorit has the best body by FAR.

That’s because Kyle has never been and will never be glamorous. She has a squat, peasant body, designed to haul sacks of potatoes or bushels of corn to the market. That type of body will never look right in a ball gown.

R275, that is the funniest thing I have read all day. But she does look good in jump suits! Proof is the Amsterdam episode.

Beverly Hills is MY town and here we haul sacks of potatoes and bushels of corn to market or get hauled out to Encino!

Is there ever an real housewives casted in this thing?

"an housewives"?, "casted"?

Don't be a bitch, R279. Words are a Rorschach Test.

That’s a big word, r280!

I think Erika is going to go full-on Robert Durst on the next episode when she's drunk on the boat, admitting to her part in her hubby's duplicity.

Is Rinna's whore daughter still with Scott Disick? She fed off that all through last season, constantly referring to them and supposedly asking the other women for advice. She's a two-bit Kris Jenner.

I’m finding this season depressing a chore to watch. Dinner parties everyone hates, girls trips everyone hates.

That’s why I bemoaned the lack of Behind The Scenes of acting gigs of Eileen and Denise. I imagine Rinna and Kyle don’t show themselves preparing for their acting gigs because they can’t monetise them.

One of the episodes where they all looked their best was when they all wore muumuus and caftans. Where was that? It was a couple of seasons ago when LVP was still on. They all looked quite glamorous.

Will she burp and fart through it R282?

R283 No, I think they maybe went out together twice. Just long enough for the whore daughter to put his big cock in her mouth.

[quote]Is Rinna's whore daughter still with Scott Disick?

No, he got no publicity from dating her, so he dumped her. Those basic Hamlin girls are never going to happen.

Is Boy George no longer crashing on Doritos couch? He could have chased the robbers away or handcuffed them to a radiator.

R285 the Dubai eps? They all did look great then, especially LVP, who's normally not my fashion favorite, or favorite anything.

Dubai is growing on me. I hated Cheshire and London tho.

Beanny Fieldsten should join RHONY. Give Louan a run for her monies.

LuMann will only be on RHONY-senior living

You heard it here! Luann is going to be the replacement Fanny in Funny Girl and my Ally is going to be her standby as soon as she gets back from fat camp!

Lea Michele can go shit in a wig with Ramona!

Real Housewives of Vancouver is by far one of the darkest television shows I have ever seen. For those looking for a dark franchise, look no further. And yes, there is irony in the fact that the meanest franchise is Canadian.

R295, you're not kidding. That show was BLEAK. I miss it.

I had to stop, it was so intense. It makes season 2 of Beverly Hills looks like child's play. That woman Jodi is the most sociopathic woman to ever be on any of the franchises. Even more than Mary Cosby!

can't even find it to download r295. it was SO DARK

R298, i think you'd have to get a vpn and watch it that way. You can watch it on hayu.

R298, it's on tubi free it seems...

My favourite by far (until the latest season) was Melbourne with horrid Pettifleur and the bitchy other ones. It was really great, but now it's shit. Seems to be a common theme with most of these.

OMG R300! I would kiss you if I weren't antisocial and you weren't gay!

they have ALL the random cities!

Melbourne is the best. The only character I straight up disliked is Jackie. She is by far the least interesting of the OG women on that show.

On Melbourne, I loved how Jackie "created" a drink she pronounced "La Mahs-kah-dah" and, I think it was Gina who pointed out, "But it's spelled Le Mascara. Mascara. Like the make-up." Apparently her angels don't know how to pronounce words.

Anyhoo, back to topic. Glad Erika and Sutton are at least at talking point but, as usual, Kyle has to stir shit up with Sex Trafficker about Sutton so now Sutton has to deal with "a new willin". Hopefully some ladies back her up for a change.

Pretentious Pettifleur was my absolute favourite but yes, Jackie was so boring.

Luan will be Bobi on Compnay Tour

I always wonder why someone like Erika doesn’t save thousands of dollars and just take some makeup classes. Her glam squad aren’t super exclusive people who do anything all that special. Teenage girls can figure out how to do Erika’s hair and makeup style I’m sure she could.

Because R329 Erika needs an entourage to laugh at her dumb vibrator jokes and do everything just for her! Who would do that for no pay??

RH podcast I listen to (judge away, cunts) pointed out that the glam squads give the ladies talk-tos that aren't each other. That allows them to avoid the risk of focus being pulled and also gives them a break from each other. In that way, glam is obstructive to producers! The more time they spend together, the more squabbling happens!

Why don’t the other RHOBH women call out Kyle for stirring the pot? Are they just stupid?

Jesus this season is dull so far. They have all this juicy material at their disposal and they don’t use it.

Topics glossed over or not discussed include:

Mauricio’s rumored cheating;

What Harry did;

Dorit and PK’s financial scams;

Garcelle sending a email to the entire staff of her ex-husband’s talent agency, letting them know she was dumping him for being a cheating piece of shit;

Crystal and Diana’s hooker pasts;

And of course, Erika.

If this were Potomac Gizelle and Karen would have dragged these bitches with this dirt within the first 10 minutes of the first episode.

wish Denise would actually show up at Garcelle's party, but I think she'll find a way out of it

I truly believe Lisa reached out to Denise like she said, & Denise is either lying or is on something & forgot about it.

wow lol next week Diana is going to get hit so hard on social media since she'll start having words with Garcelle. This week's confessional she said Garcelle was the least welcoming

and all this on the heels of her social media incident this week

Diana is a USELESS addition so far. The Sutton and Erika reconciliation = who cares?! I totally believe Rinna lied about reaching out to Denise. Such a boring season!

R310 I have no idea what you're trying to say.

Pretty hilarious that Diana complains that Sutton's always trying to make everything about her when every time we see Diana, she's telling yet another story about her harrowing experiences as a Bosnian refugee.

"Aren't these strawberries delicious, Diana?"

"In Bosnia, strawberry was only meal I had for 2 years."

"Isn't the beach beautiful, Diana?"

"No beach in Bosnia."

"Isn't Kyle's store nice?"

"In Bosnia, only one store with one can of beans."

I just don't understand how Diana grew up so poor and yet seems to be more uppity than all of them combined

I’m jealous of Diana. I’d love to have an advance person set up my wardrobe at my Motel 6 booking.

R320 In Bosnia, we had only Motel Minus 6.

Diana is off-brand Yolanda Hadid without length of bone. You’d never be top ten prostitute in old country, mouse-faced Bosnian whore.

R322 that would be a great show idea, a competition The Next Miss Med Yacht-girl w/Diana as judge critiquing the wannabe hookers from eastern Europe

Is it wrong to say……I’d rather see more screen time for Asher and Diana’s son than these old, crusty broads? I also wonder if Mikey has to go south and dress up the puss for EJ when she heads out for a “date”. Can you imagine the horror down there?

I don’t think Erika can afford Mikey anymore. Her new crew only get minimum wage and the checks frequently bounce.

I want to see the Pincushion man attending one of these dinners from hell. Mostly for Diana, but Rinna and Dorit could use a good loss of volume as well.

Eriks is a bad actress and her drunk act was a bore.

[quote] Real Housewives of Vancouver is by far one of the darkest television shows I have ever seen.

Let me tell you about “dark”…

The “women” on RHUGT 2 is look hard and ugly.

Sutton has a face roller assistant!🤩

It's too stressful for her to do it herself!

Erika is the textbook of what happens to old whores. Next stop rehab. Unless there is a court judgement against her. Then next stop suicide.

R295 Meaner than Sydney?

Do they always have long boring episodes about who said what?

R330 Thank you for noticing my appearance! Sutton's assistant is much more gentle with me than Sutton is.

Kyle's facelift does look really good. How many has she had now? How many facelifts should a 50 yr old have had? I would say one is sufficient.

R335 Those pictures they showed of her with her first husband...she looks completely different now. Those nose jobs really made a difference.

Teddi Mellencamp just intimated that Vicki Gunvalson was at the January 6th insurrection on Twitter. Uh oh…

R337 Did she intimate anything about a good for nothing FAMILY VAN being involved?

Vicki is truly an ugly woman

I feel like it seemed Erika was faking the whole drunk thing. Mind you, she's so fake it's hard to tell.

She wasn’t drunk. She had taken two lexapro and an extended release Xanax. THEN she said she had margaritas. She wasn’t faking it, she was a fucking mess. They’re lucky she didn’t need to be revived at some point. They should have left her at the hotel.

R341 = Mikey

I’m surprised they didn’t pull off all her clothes and draw a mustache on her face. This was Vile’s idea of Erika having fun?

Erika probably scares Kyle so Kyle's just happy Erika's not sittin' pissy glaring at the girls.

Yup, I agree that Kyle is terrified of Erika just like she was terrified of LVP during most of their “friendship.” I sort of can’t fault, Kyle though. Knowing the volatile personalities she’s had to deal with most of her life (Big Kathy, Kim) I can see why she has a people pleaser personality and prefers to walk on eggshells than risk unleashing Pizuzu.

Kyle is the pretty one

Everything Erika does is tiresomely calculated. If she was actually very drunk, she intended to get very drunk and “go crazy.” More likely she was putting it on. Blah.

Oof Teddi stirring the pot. I would not be surprised if Vicki was at the insurrection.

R348 Well, Vicki didn't respond to Teddi after that, so I think we know the answer.

Vickr need to close heir leg to married mens!

Teddi’s just trolling (but it’s decent work, I admit). If VG was at 1/6 we would have seen years ago.

If I were Vicki, I’d be consulting lawyers. I would imagine that’s why she didn’t answer. An accusation of being present at a seditious insurrection is serious libel. I’d sue Teddi’s ass in a heartbeat. That is, of course, if she wasn’t there.

R352 Vicki can't sue Teddi for asking a question.

But I can sue her for being a boring bitch!

R354 If that was the case, Vicki, you'd have so many lawsuits against you, no amount of that crap insurance you sell would protect you from financial ruin.

Things are really going to heat up once Kathy reappears. I hope she brought her box fan with her.

Mauricio and his daughters are getting their own Netflix show "Selling Beverly Hills" starting this fall. I wonder how well he's going to come off on his own show? He seems like a douchebag without Kyle around.

R357, Mauricio is flirting with the devil trying to go up against one of Netflix’s biggest hits, Selling Sunset. Look out for his adultery stuff to be used to market the show *and* sink it/him/his marriage, simultaneously.

R358, Since the show revolves around he and his daughters, I'm guessing that it will be family-focused and a very friendly environment around them. None of the gossip and back-stabbing that Selling Sunset has. Of course, that will also result in a boring show, so we'll see if it's successful.

R359 It'll be as successful as Kyle's boutiques and her "American Woman" series.

Wait, Mauricio's show isn't on Bravo? It's with Netflix? Sorry, I had a crossed wire. If it's part of the "Selling" franchise Netflix won't try to oppo him. I still won't watch but there's a huge market for real estate porn...

Is Mauricio dating his daughters? Because otherwise that show sounds so boring.

Kyle gets a new face every couple of years/days.

Danny Pellegrino is funny with his recaps.

[QUOTE] Is Mauricio dating his daughters? Because otherwise that show sounds so boring.

I wouldn’t really call fucking Farrah “dating” her.

They are a cute couple. I didn’t know they were dating.

I heard a recap of this past week's episode and decided not to watch. Too Erika-centric and another mention of Sutton eating bacon? No thanks. I REALLY hope that the second half of this season is better than the first. I'm bored.

We need more dirt on the twat better know as Diana.

I bet more will come out about Diana while the next several episodes air, and she will end up skipping out on the reunion

When does Kathy come back with her creepy Botox smile?

Yikes, Mauricio is sure looking rough.

He smokes pot all day and lives with Kyle, he’s doing his best.

I knew Farrah’s fiancé when he was a kid. I worked for his mom. He was a little hoodlum. She was on a business trip and I had to have her paged at the airport because the little asshole had been picked up by the Beverly Hills PD for vandalizing property, and they told me on the phone if she didn’t have him picked up asap he was going to juvenile hall.

I likes Crytal. Is she be on Dancing with Star?

r364 Mauricio really is hideous... ugly eyes, dark circles, droopy and sunken. I wonder if Kyle will make him get some face work.

An-eey Cohen say I wi' be bak in neck season awso bitches.

Kyle actually looks older to me than Mauricio with all the glam looks. Without it, she looks same age or younger.

I watched ep 1 of Ultimate Girls Trip and Taylor’s 15 yr old daughter looks exactly like Russell.

[Quote] Taylor’s 15 yr old daughter looks exactly like Russell.

We don't say that she looks like her father. We don't say that she hits her mother. We don't say these things out loud!

All I see when I see Diana

UGT season 2 is one of the funniest shows I've watched in years. Brandi spasticly yelling "STFU!", Dorinda's monologue about how yelling is like people asking for help, lesbian eyebrows. I am riveted and can't wait for Thursday's new episode. Bonus surprise: Eva is a super-cool chick who everyone adores.

I am very much enjoying UGT 2 with the exception of that cunt Vicki. I had to tap out of S1.

R379, yeah, Vicki is SUCH a buzzkill but on balance I think the show is great. S1 was fine for me but I watched it with one eye. Just not a lot happening.

Andy never gets called on it because he has nothing to do with the shows. They are filmed and managed by production companies like Endemol and Sold to Bravo for distribution. Bravo is the network that pays Endemol for the shows, who in turn pays the cast and crew. Andy has exec prod credit on all housewives shows but is not a Bravo executive and is not a production exec. It is what is called a Vanity Title. All the perks of being an exec prod but none of the work or responsibility.

I'll have to watch it again but I'm pretty sure Dorinda said Andy called and told her she was "on pause". I don't know if that is part of the EP role but I have no idea how it works.

Not quite true, R381. Per multiple sources, Andy has a seat the table for casting decisions and reviews dailies at least sometimes. However, he is most definitely not in charge. Not quite a vanity title.

Andy makes it seem like he calls all the shots, which is not true. I am surprised they keep WWHL since it’s barely viewed by anyone.

I can’t believe how much I like Eva since I loathed her on Atlanta and Top Model. Phaedra is hilarious. And it was nice to see the Fish room again. Brandi looked rough on WWHL tonite.

[Quote] Brandi looked rough on WWHL tonite.

You should see her in bed.

I didn't say that.

Did I mention that my father committed suicide and I couldn’t enjoy my one piece of bacon for the holiday?

Phaedra is a terrible person, of course, but damn that bitch is funny. This UGT does have a different flavor since they were all fired. Sorry Dorinda—on “pause”.

Nah. Phaedra is fine. She 100% told the truth about Kandi, who’s absolutely a closet case, along with her pocket fag husband.

How do I watch the Ultimate Girls Trip part 2?

Its on Peacock for free R390. I just pit it on

R390, it’s on Peacock.

Dorinda did say Andy called and told her she’s ‘on pause’ for a year.

Jill's appearance just basically codified why she's not a great fit for these shows anymore. Basic as fuck!

I actually do think Dorinda is only on pause. I think she's well liked by audiences and by Bravo but her behavior her last season was *so* atrocious that they felt they had to take some kind of action. But it's no surprise that she was asked to host S2 of UGT and I guarantee she'll be back for the new OGs version of RHONY.

It’s kind of crazy that the entire cast other than dour Vicki is just laughing in Jill’s face. I hope this scratches her itch to come back because she really doesn’t have it anymore and her desperation is sad. Sad!

Dorinda has been off New York for a few years.

Dorinda was only off NY for 1 year. It just seems longer because the last season with Ebony felt interminable.

Jill is rumored to be coming back for one of the two RHONY shows with Bethenny as friend of on the condition that they bring back Sonia. Ramona will also be back because, love her or hate her, the old bitch makes good tv.

They aren’t putting any of the OG’s on the reboot.

The OG’s go on a cheaper version called “legacy” or “Boniva.”

They can’t afford Bethenny for either show.

I think Luann, Sonia, Dorinda, and Ramona are locks for Legacy. Jill is also a strong possibility--I think UGT is Bravo testing the waters for her being back in the fold. Underdog possibilities are Tinsley and Heather (but only if Leah isn't there). Most of the rest of the cast wasn't popular with either fans or execs or have flat out stated they have no desire to ever come back.

They’re foolish if Tinsley doesn’t pop up on one of them. She could be the token white girl on the new one, for instance. I think she’s fab TV and underrated.

Dorinda would be good as the matriarch of the new RHONY.

She didn’t make problematic comments like Ramona or LuAnn, she’s just a mean drunk. But she shines when she’s playing the mother figure.

R384, WWHL is generally wrapped in whatever Bravo show comes at 9 pm. I noticed this watching Summer House earlier this year. My TV info would say SH was on from 9 pm - 10:30pm. It turns out that WWHL was actually on at 10 pm but, if you were DVR'ing the show, you automatically got the WWHL 1/2 hour.

Is Legacy supposed to be like The Golden Girls? What is the point?

Bethenny isn’t coming back, and certainly not as friend of. lol.

I used to think Garcelle was a voice of reason. Now, I find her to be a shit stirring phony fuck.

Tonite we met soulless Diana.

Did Garcelle’s son Oliver separate from his wife?

Why does anyone give any shits about Diana? She’s a cunt. Kyle is such a wannabe fawning over a dumb purse and jesus Kyle keep your legs shut, does anyone need to see you do another split?

Kyle the splits is the most embarrassing mom ever.

Rob saying Nor-fuck in front of his kid was pretty funny.

Doritos your cat suit showed off your black hole to aplomb! Congrats!! Vintage = all I could afford to rent.

Garcelle wants LVP’s alpha producer role.

Diana is an ignorant nasty old whore. Get her Sutton.

I’m looking forward to the time Kyle does those fucking splits and ends up breaking her hip.

Hey Kyle! Being menopausal, it must be so great to do the splits and not worry about shooting someone's eye out with your tampon!

Hahaha!! Eri-cunt sucking back all the free booze at Garcelle's party.

Ooof, Diana is gross.

I hate Diana...Sutton seemed drunk and on something...maybe taking a Valium before having to deal with the women. I like her, she is harmless but she was a babbling idiot last nite. Kyle has to insert her stumpy fat legs into everything. I would have told her to get lost and to MYOB .

Kyle's constant sucking of Zsa Zsa Gawhore's asshole is embarrassing.

R419 I would like to file a motion that we all refer to Diana as "Zsa Zsa Gawhore" from this point forward.

Gawhores face looks like a hemorrhoid

Diana is a sociopathic cunt, but it was refreshing to see someone be completely aggressive on RHOBH. Usually the tension on this franchise happens after the incident (with the exception of Sutton and Erika, but even then, it was pretty contained). Diana was completely nasty. Sutton held her own pretty well. Probably because she was tranquilized.

During the past 2 episodes, Diana has been so vicious that even Erika seems harmless.

Wonder what Diana's BFFs David Burtka and NPH think of twitter calling for Diana to be fired.

Lol'd at Garcelle's creeped out reaction to Kyle dancing like a stripper.

Rob Minkoff.... yeeeeesh. "Hip hop Rob."

Kyle's daughter with the turkey baster. I bet Mauricio has filled that a few times....💦

Dorit's brother David crying......punk ass bitch. The whole family is phony AF

I just realized Rinna wasn’t at the party. She’s so forgettable these days. I wonder if they’re trying out Will’s ex wife. Maybe we’ll see more of her as a ‘friend of.’ She’s seems too well adjusted (ie dull) for this bunch.

Wow...Diana was next level nasty. Easy to see why. Hard as nails, would fuck anyone over. Cold hearted Eurotrash.

Zsa Zsa Gawhore is a cunt. She is the cunt of cunts.

And are we supposed to believe that "husband" impregnated her?

Best part of the episode was fat, drunk, leopard-spotted Erika begging for drinks.

Zsa Zsa Gawhore calls Sutton "boring," but does Zsa Zsa have anything to talk about other than Bosnia and how much money she has?

Rich as fuck Zsa Zsa Gawhore gives Garcelle...a copy of her sex trafficking book for her birthday.

R429. Yes. Bleeding. Lots of bleeding.

R423 No, that's a different daughter. Mauricio fucked Farrah, Kyle's daughter from her first marriage.

R431 So much bleeding. I had to mop it up with my diamond-encrusted Birkin bag that cost a quarter of a million dollars.

Kyle's bid to look sexy and young is ridiculous. A mid 50s woman doing the splits on the dancefloor? Gross. I hope somebody mopped, or at least prayed Febreese, on the tiles.

There is absolutely NO WAY that Crystal's husband is straight.

I don’t think there is a thread for the current Ultimate Girls Trip, but Dorinda is proving to be just as horrible as she was before being put “on pause”. I think they all came away from this hating her.

And she’s clearly still a raging alcoholic R436. She stays in bed all day and then starts drinking. Prime alcoholic behavior. She seems to be in the beginnings of alcohol induced dementia.

r 422 Haaaa.. .Ole "Hip Hop Rob" shows us that old rich white folks really cant dance...Id’ be so embarrassed if I were him and would pay anything to destroy that episode.

Dorinda’s now long dead husband, they were married for only a handful of years, pretty clearly drank and snorted himself into an early grave (“liver failure after a short illness”). Her insistence of acting like some recently widowed First Lady is no different than Sonja and her bullshit mythologizing about her failed marriage - they are both deeply unhappy women with very little to show for their lives except a bunch of nights they can’t remember and a gnawing insecurity about being jumped up trash.

So… Diana was a raging failure.

Whenever I see a clip of RHUGT 2 - these white women all look hard and ugly. It’s what happens when you are desperate and aging with plastic surgery. Eva and Phaedra look fine.

As a recent convert to RH of Potomac, I have to say the RHOBH cast really isn't delivering. They need to cut Crystal and bring in someone with a personality who can actually argue with other people instead of just crying and walking out. I also find Dorit boring as fuck, but I know she has some fans.

It worked really well last season but what they’re glomming onto for storylines isn’t working right now. Fire Diana and let Rinna and Erika be the villains. Rinna has gotten quite good at it.

Yes also Rinna will say whatever the fuck she wants - she's confrontational and reckless - which is good. But they need to cast someone who will spar with her. Like when we had Kim Richards.

Black Twitter is coming for Rinna right now.

She really should have Harry Hamlin review her social media posts before she hits "Send."

My advice would be to drop Crystal, Sutton, Kathy and Diana

Hire Denise, Kim, Jada Pinkett, and Catherine Zeta-Jones

I'm far too young for this program, R466.

Dorinda does seem like an angry drunk, but I like her style. She doesn't have ridiculous extensions like Tamra, etc. She dresses for her age, not trying to be young again. Also, no obvious plastic surgery on her face. Tamra has recently done something to her eyes and looks like Cat Lady.

Eva is probably 20 years younger than the other HWs. Phaedra seems like a criminal to me.

Fire all of them and start fresh. There must be thousands of old actresses waiting for a chance to do a Housewives franchise.

Just when I was starting to like Dorinda again, she behaved so badly she managed to make me feel sorry for Tamra f'n Judge.

Yeah Dorinda was horrible on this week’s episode. An angry, abusive drunk with a victim complex and no insight into her behavior. It’s hard to watch. I agree she’s very pretty and dresses well, but she’s just vile. The screaming at Tamra like an abusive parent over eating in her room and then the bullshit about them missing her stupid aerobics class and then yelling at Jill like a drunk psycho. UGH!

She makes Brandi seem harmless and Jill Zarin seem stable.

Maybe Dorinda had finally watched the Naked Wasted episode of RHOC that morning.

Well Diana is a dumpster fire of a racist. Which isn’t a surprise. I mean, Bosnian, c’mon.

What do you all think of Diana’s level of intelligence? I feel like she could be quite bright and just acts like an idiot who doesn’t understand English when it serves her.

R454 I don't think she's nearly as intelligent as she'd like us to believe she is.

Diana has one-season-wonder written all over her. She’s alienating too many viewers. If you want to be a cunt at least be a fun cunt. Or a Funt.

Does anyone know if their ratings are down?

she's not even fun to hate, she's Faye Resnick awful.

Diana misread the audience like the Fuck Force Five did with Denise. Sutton and Garcelle are popular right now-pick on Rinna or Erika if you want to make a splash

I missed when Garcelle got on Diana's bad side. And vice versa. The text message was confusing.

Yes one would think Diana would have looked at Twitter and realized Garcelle was the one to align with. But I guess she’s above that. Really bit her in the ass.

Now that she is almost 60 and is being dragged on Twitter as a racist … tick-tock for Lisa Rinna.

Rinna is crashing hard. More gay rumors about Harry, alleged racism, lost her mom and she’s not one of the popular girls on BH anymore. Dragging Dubai into her latest tirade was just bizarre. And those ladies are not to be fucked with.

If Erika keeps it up she may find herself in jail.

Isn't it weird for a 45 yr old ex stripper married to a multimillionaire lawyer to take up becoming a pop whore at such an advanced age? Erika has obviously always been totally crazy.

Erika must be crying that she has to give up those earrings. They were bought with stolen money but were her only asset. Once she is let go from RHOBH, she will be completely broke with massive debts.

[Quote] Once she is let go from RHOBH, she will be completely broke with massive debts.

And, y'all, it's expensive to be her!

Erika and Rinna plotting to go back to broadway in Chicago was hilarious. Even more hilarious when Garcelle gave it an eye roll. In a few years Erika might be playing Roxie at the Beef and Boards dinner theatre in Duluth but broadway? No.

Erika is 50 so she has a long road to social security. I guess she could go on welfare. No man would marry her so unfortunately I can see her being desperate and going to jail in the future for trying to rob a 7-11.

R460 Garcelles loyal, and Diana has been a thorough bitch to Sutton, someone she has a seemingly genuine friendship, and Diana was being a grade A bitch at Garcelles birthday party and her sons were there. She doesn't seem like the type to let shenanigans go down in front of her sons.

I'm also guessing that the book query-shutdown on Sutton was another strike against Diana and given how long Garcelles been around she probably has more knowledge about Dianas book (if there is more to know, anyway).

Any news of Kyle resigning?

They should do a “Housewife for one season” Ultimate Girls Trip, with Tootie, Cindy Barshop, Carlton the Witch, etc., and put them up in a Holiday Inn for a weekend.

With a relentless amount of activities.

Something like Survivor r473 r472 but if they lose the daily challenge, they are promptly killed.

[Quote] if they lose the daily challenge, they are promptly killed.

Or locked in a room with Kyle Richards, which is a far worse fate.

R475 Uh-uh. Forced to attend an Erika Jayne concert would be worse.

R476 You haven't seen me perform, have you?

Imagine if there was a RHOBH Hunger Games. Rinna would probably last a long time because she’s used to going so long without food and wouldn’t need to expend any energy hunting.

R478 Rinna is like the cockroach of the Real Housewives franchise. She's virtually impossible to destroy.

In the promo for this week, drunk/Xanaxed Erika tells one of Garcelle’s sons to “get the fuck away from me” at Garcelle’s party. She’s white trash and she’s going to be hustling the rest of her life because no man wants a human stalagmite.

Kyle and Mauricio are scum.

Twitter is up in arms about the scene from R481. I’m glad. Fuck Kyle and Dorit and their gross husbands.

White peoples laughing at black peoples

It tells you a lot about rich people if they think it’s “fun” that a white woman gets drunk and also tells a black teenager to fuck off in his own house.

R481 Can't wait to see Kyle try and talk her way out of this one.

I despise Kyle. She is so far up Diana’s ass…I’m sure she’s hoping Diana lists with Mauricio.

All the racism in Beverly Hills is (not) shocking.

Had the tables been turned and Garcelle repeatedly told Portia to fuck off - all hell would have broken loose. Can you imagine? And Portia is only a year younger than Garcelle’s son.

If Jax was white , Erica wouldnt yell at him like that.

R482 WOW. Kyle is a peace of shit.

^ oh, dear. There’s a joke in there, somewhere…

It seems like drunk Erika thought the son was the help. Even worse, her white friends made light of it. I would have supported Garcelle if she had kicked Erika super hard right in the puss . And then a few beatings to the head.

r490 r491 there could be but everyone has done that... it’s just flat out cruel we paying customers don’t have an edit

#RHOBHMeangirls is trending on twitter

I would love to see Erika get canned. She’s a horrible person and brings nothing to the show except a whole lot of fakeness and denial. She wouldn’t be missed.

I’m gobsmacked. Kyle has only known Sutton for a few years and is shocked, shocked that she doesn’t know her entire reproductive health history?

What a cunt.

Fire her now.

Diana, man. I have never met a Bosnian woman who is about a snide, manipulative rage case.

You just knew Diana was going to be a cunt when she walked into the party and commented on how few guests there were to Asher (who seems like just another accessory for her to show off).

This will get me sent to hell, but something looks and seems…OFF about Diana’s later-in-life miracle baby. A little miscarry that saved itself at the last minute.

Also, what was up with the complete lack of addressing the elephant in the room about Will Smith? I realize that the events being filmed were pre-“The Slap” but the talking heads certainly weren’t. And there’s no reason they couldn’t have filmed new THs. The ooh-ing and aah-inf about proximity to Will was nauseating.

Kyle is an invertebrate so there is no low with which she is not intimately familiar. Surprised Diana hasn't figured that one out yet, being as sharp as she is.

Really hoping the kids get Robs brain vs. Krystal, she really just smeared stupid all over herself with the 'Norfolk' bit. (Although Rob could've explained himself better with the soft 'l', but has this bitch NEVER been abroad? She'd be the idiot in the city looking for 'Hew-ston' street.

Rob is really creepy. Not getting a lot of intelligence there.

Everything is England is like really old.

R500 Do a guy a solid and pass me the war chester sauce, please.

Speculation on Twitter that Bravo is pissed that Mauricio‘a real estate show with the daughters is on Netflix, so they’re throwing the Umanskys under the bus by making them look like racist idiots

r504

I'm assuming Mo went to Bravo first right?

I am all for them making Kyle look like shit. She is a true Richards/Hilton - a revolting rich person. Her lame apology does not address her bad behavior. Just admit you are a nasty cunt.

R506 When you're dear friends with Faye Resnick (who I actually love, if being played by Connie Britton), you don't need to admit to being a nasty cunt, it's already a given.

Wow. The scene with Kyle and Dorit and their stoned hubbies was worse than I thought. IT WAS SO NICE TO SEE ERIKA LOOSEN UP EVEN THOUGH SHE DID TELL GARCELLE’S SON TO FUCK OFF. HAHAHAHA. They deserve to be dragged for that. Repulsive trash.

Have Vyle and Dorito made any statements about that?

A white woman telling a black teenager to fuck off is fun! I love this new side of Erika.

R509 Dorit kept her trap shut. It was Kyle, Mauricio, and PK.

In my head I read Doritos name as Door-It, never Duhr-Eat. I bet that would piss her off.

You’re morally corrupt as can be R507.

As obnoxious as Dorit can be, she was smart enough to stay out of that mess.

What was the excuse for Erika saying that to Jax? I thought she was going with she thought he was part of the clean-up staff. However, during that snippet of her conversation with Crystal, it seems like her new thing was, “He’s a teenager and not a child - I can talk that way around a sixteen year old and it’s fine.”

Which is it, Erika?

Oliver is quite hot but the facial tattoos put him in the automatic “no” category for me. I don’t understand why anyone would do that.

I think she thought he was clean up staff for sure

I’m not defending Erica but I got the impression she knew who Jax was and just thought she was being funny when she was actually behaving like trash. Jax just laughed it off because Erica herself is a joke and Garcelle’s sons are aware of that.

R515 I thought that at first she did not recognize Jax and thought he was either a busboy clearing tables—and taking flowers from the table is a sign of "it's time to leave," which got Erika mad in a "don't you passive aggressively tell me to leave" kind of way. After all, she was a waitress. She knows all about how to hint at a party that it's closing time.

Or, possibly, she believed he was some random guest grabbing the floral display for himself in the way guests take floral displays at parties / weddings when they end. She probably wanted it for herself.

Meanwhile, her behavior around Garcelle's adult son Oliver stood out even more when put in contrast to the way she treated Jax. She was OK with sexualizing him as if he were a thug for her use. She find out he is married and has four children yet she has to say "ask your Baby Mama" to him? How about "ask your wife?"

At the least, she is an awkward old white woman who thinks she is down with slang yet sounds like a fool. At the worst, she plays into the oldest tropes of plantation behavior toward black men and boys: Oliver is sexualized, he is a stud to mount her; while Jax is a boy to be admonished and to clear her food away.

She is vile. As far as the other vile—vile-Kyle. Saying it is "great that Erika is finally having fun" is pathetic. Erika is clearly mixing Xanax and booze. There's a complete double standard between 14 year old boys and 14 year old girls. If Erika had said this to Portia...or if a husband had said this to Portia...Maurico and Kyle would have gone apeshit.

Sidebar: Portia's Instagram had to have comments disabled because the social media brigade was proving that point.

As far as Jax laughing it off, of course he did. He's a 14 year old boy who doesn't seem to relish attention. He doesn't understand the context and as a boy he is not going to run out of the party and cry.

One comment on Kyle and Mauricio. They love money. End of story. They were on the sidelines of success for so many years and now their outsize love for money is in full force and effect. Sutton is as nutty as the Mad Hatter, but Kyle defending Diana was about one thing: staying friendly with her so Mauricio's firm has a chance to sell her properties.

R518 is dead on.

Jax laughing it off (more accurately laughing at the old drunk hag thinking he’s the help) doesn’t make absolve Erika

But was Jax laughing it off? When he first mentioned it to Garcelle, I thought he was trying not to cry and I think that's what set Garcelle off.

Jax wasn’t laughing it off. He was upset and shocked, you could see it on his face. Crystal saw it and she put her arm around him to comfort him. Garcelle showed admirable restraint not thawing that fat stripper under an oncoming truck on La Cienega.

Who the fuck does Kyle think she is grabbing Sutton that way? Sutton wasn’t drunk. Sutton wasn’t physically attacking Diana.

Kyle and Diana need kicks in their cunts and then kicked to the curb.

I didn’t think Erika thought Jax was the help. I think she thought, in her booze and Xanax addled mind, that she was being funny. She knew he is Garcelle’s son. It’s still trashy to talk to a 14 year old like that, and Garcelle has the right to be pissed. And Kyle sweeping it away with a “it’s so great to see Erika loosen up!”—gross.

Kyle actually left a mark on Sutton grabbing her like that

LVP and Ken are celebrating the demise of Kyle

R524 I agree. She's in Lil Jayne midlife crisis territory. I was waiting for another Lil Kim impression, her announcing "she's on fire getting head by the Harlem Boys Choir" IMO, it could've been worse.

Diane needs to go if for no other reason than she brings out the worst in Kyle. Kyle is now treating Sutton like she used to treat Kim at her worst. She actually left nail marks on Sutton and shook her like she was a baby she hated.

Diana's house looks like the offices of an architectural firm, not an actual home.

Why didn't Sutton have some some kind of covering put down around her table so those bitches wouldn't have to walk through the mud?

Better yet, since it was cold and wet outside, why didn't she just have everyone eat inside instead?

I love Sutton’s new house.

I was so distracted by Zsa Zsa Gawhore's massively dehydrated braid and split ends during her scene with Sutton.

Sutton should have smacked the shit out of Kyle. A woman being called a liar after saying she's had two miscarriages? What the fuck even was that? She's literally the worst.

Harry Hamlin is playing the patriarch in the new "Flowers in the Attic" prequel on Lifetime. It takes place at the turn-of-the-century when the evil Grandmother from “Flowers” is younger and shows up to the big mansion as his new bride.

Based on "Garden of Shadows" the fifth book in the series but first, chronologically.

R534 Thanks for letting us know, Lisa.

Lots of messy drunks- Kyle, Erica, Sutton...

Just goes to show you that money can’t buy you class R536

Let’s not forget Dishy Rishi was filmed a few months ago during a puff piece not working out how to pay for a can of Coke at a petrol station. Dude lives in such rarified air he forgot how to use money.

Oh Erica. You’ve ALLEGEDLY been a very bad girl.

Diana seemed sedated.

This is one bizarre cast of characters, that's for sure. I don't even mind how boring this season's been, I'm just entertained by how weird everyone except Garcelle is.

Has anyone else noticed their clothes, hair and makeup all look like shit? None of them dresses well. They spend all that money for “glam” and then hide it under hideous chunky sunglasses.

Kyle (age 50+) looked particularly hideous in that black stringy number during Garcelle’s birthday party. Is she turning trucks under the highway?

Never has a typo been as forgivable as the one at R543

I don’t understand how Garcelle puts up with Sutton. Maybe Sutton has a good heart compared to the rest of them.

Kyle turns TRICKS

The older Kyle gets, the more hooker-ish her outfits are. Sad.

The Irish age famously badly. For every Maureen O’Hara there’s a thousand frights.

Someone needs to tell trashy Kyle that she should never do splits.

No one wants to smell 51-year-old tuna.

R539 Lock that cunt up.

Bamboozle Jane is wearing a tighter and tighter noose blouse . She and Jen Shah.

Notice how Rinna practically orgasmed talking about how expensive Diana's houses are.

Rinna's gonna glom onto Zsa Zsa Gawhore as long as he can.

It’s very telling about the rot at the core of their characters that Rinna and Kyle worship an old Slavic Whore (Diana) and an old Florida stripper (Erika).

Dorit seems to be subtly distancing herself. Notice how she hasn’t defended any of them.

It was funny watching Kyle and Sutton order those carb-heavy creamy pasta dishes at an Italian restaurant and take 2 bites of it and gush over how AMAZING it was. Sutton actually looked like she was just moving the food around.

Aside from Garcelle and maybe Kyle/Erika to an extent, no way these women eat. At least Crystal is open about having an eating disorder. Dorit apparently smokes like a chimney.

Dorit is by far the best dressed of the group. She always looks fab.

I thought she looked ridiculous sitting on the couch in that jumpsuit. Like some villain's chick henchman in the Adam West Batman series.

Bacon-eating vegetarian! Bacon-eating vegetarian!

Diana headbutts hummingbirds.

I just love that Sutton and Jennifer Tilly are friends. Both are a little offbeat but seem genuine and kind. Diana is friends with Doogie Howser and his hubby. Nuff said.

R554 Kyle ordered pasta alla Norma but looked like she was served a pasta with just tomato sauce. No idea what that mess was on Sutton’s plate, but it didn’t look like gnocchi.

Interesting to see both ladies get served big old plates of pasta. Defo not 'haute cuisine' portions. As if either of them took more than a few bits. Then off to purge it all back up in their spotlessly clean bathrooms.

I eat!

Kyle mopped the floor. All is forgiven, Robear.

Sutton and Kyle at the Italian reataurant sounds like when I used to put my 78 records on 45 rpms. Chipmunk voices talking unintelligibly in hyperspeed.

The LAPD has still not caught the “robbers” of Dorit and PK? I wonder if they also concluded it was probably staged.

Or there isn’t enough proof to file arrest charges r565. I would have thought the police received hundreds of calls and leads after the show aired the footage.

Even more reason to believe it was staged. The robbers also knew to not park where the security cameras were. Isn’t it supposed to be a gated community? They would have footage of every car going in and out.

Why would anyone want to rub their vagina on a dirty dance floor?

It itches?

Cuz their Mother told them it'd make them a STAH!

Please r553, We have enough stripper trash here in Fl...Georgia gets the credit for the bleached blond whore

Yes you do r562... you’re getting extremely zoftig . Your cheap track suits hide nothing!

Wow. Erika is one sociopathic cunt.

^and she expects to trap Jamie Foxx how with that mouth on her?

She could be a DLer with that tweet. Lol.

The state, or whoever is suing Tom Girardi needs to get a better lawyer than that dipshit Edelson. The guy is a grandstanding moron addicted to social media and raising his own profile. He comes off no better than Erika. He’s done nothing for the victims and should be kicked off the case stat.

It’s fun watching Erika self destruct. Grab the popcorn cuz the best is yet to come.

Anyone who tries to entice a friend's son into banging them by proposing a three way is trash and should probably just crawl back into their stripper gutter. Erikunt will be doing granny porn within the year.

Sutton and son in Sicily.

R579 Her son is nerdy cute.

I love Siracusa

Sutton reminds us once again of her 'close' friendship with Dolce and Gabbana. You'd think she was their muse. All these gay designers having to be obsequious to loud, showy, obnoxious wealthy but ageing divorcees. Sutton is just another mutton dressed as lamb fashionata. She's the living embodiment of that famous saying “The fashionable woman wears clothes. The clothes don't wear her.” And in case anyone is wondering... the clothes wear her.

She thinks they are friends but if she stopped buying things then they would drop her in a second. She gives them a ton of free advertising (unless they give her some old crap in exchange).

It takes a lot of guts to wear straight off the runway couture. There are going to be the inevitable comparison pics with the catwalk model. But judging from Sutton's portly midriff and strategically positioned handbag, a lot of guts is what she has ; )

Leave Sutton alone you Old Slavic whore. Sutton’s fashion sense is criminal but she’s harmless and this show wouldn’t have had much of a story this season without her.

Would I befriend the rancid, self loathing D&G for free trips to Sicily? No. But only after hours and hours of deliberation. It looks gorgeous.

R579 Italy is, like, really old.

The D&G fashion advert that was Kourtney Kardashians wedding was a mess. I haven't like anything they've done since 2000. Sutton can have them.

There's no reason to be a slave to fashion. Especially if you are rich as fuck.

I’m sure Sutton believes that she is very close to them, even a muse. But no one else wants that role.

Agreed R589. But these rich old whores live the most shallow lives, so fleeting fashion is right up their street.

Haven’t D&G been out of style since the 1990’s?

New thread below:

Thanks r593

R582 you are spot on. Kyle also wears clothes that wear her. Dorit and Rinna look great even in the most hideous outfits. Crystal dresses like a little girl, all ruffles and flounces.

Crystal dresses a bit too much like Lucy Liu’s1980s / Alexis character on “Why Women Kill.” She has not found her look yet and should really be in sportswear all the time.

Kyle’s stumpy , peasant potato hauler body wasn’t made for couture.

The poor dear looks best in muumuus or caftans.

Crystal is very pretty and has a nice figure but I hate the way she dresses. And those pleather pants were awful.

Kyle has short thick legs and no torso. She cant be more than 5’ tall if that. She will never look good in clothes. As r597 said, she is stumpy and dumpy and only a muumuu suits her

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