THEATRE GOSSIP #473: The Happy Talk Edition

Follies, Beanie Feldstein, Take Me Out, ticket prices, Tony award.

That about sum it up?

r2, and cocks. Always cocks. (Or holes, in the case of the gentleman widely discussed in the last thread.)

Send in the COCKS!

So why did they nix the Kevin Kline frontal scene in "Loose Ends" on Broadway and have him perform it in a bathing suit?

R5-Because there was really nothing to see.

Bringing this over from the last thread, because nudity is always a good way to start off a thread (even obscured rear nudity).

(Speaking of things that didn't make it out of DC, whatever happened to that Dave musical?)

Kline showed his tush on-screen in "I Love You to Death". Nice ass.

This might explain why the new Roxie is only getting a 2 week run

Kevin Kline was so hot back in the day. Phoebe was a lucky woman.

R9 wow that is horrible but honestly not any worse than a lot of Roxies. D'Amboise was the worst. She sounded like she was doing Ruth Buzzie's Gladys. And not mentioned is that DL's favorite daughter, Jennifer Holliday will be playing Mama starting June 9.

I saw Loose Ends and was surprised to hear the opening scene was done originally in the nude. Why were they suddenly so shy in New York which already had seen a lot of nudity? Maybe they thought the Circle in the Square subscription audience would have rioted?

What was so especially toxic about the last thread? It was the same old same old DL toxicity.

r9 Why would they post that? And I see she has "All glory to God" in her IG bio, which is always a red flag

Omg, R9, that was terrible! So much indicating. And the voice is nothing to write home about.

OP- your thread title bites the weenie.

And not Kline's.

With relish!

THAT was the WINNER of the competition, R9?

No wonder I didn't hear about it.

Kevin Kline's agents (as well as his co-star Roxanne Hart's) advised them both not to go nude in NY and both actors ultimately felt the nudity was gratuitous. It was as simple as that. Way back then co=star Jay O Sanders was almost as hot as Kevin.

This seems stupid. A super-spreader event seems inevitable.

But most of the attendees are vaxxed and boosted x 2 so no one will die.

True, but if they start testing positive afterward, people may start missing shows again, right at the height of the busy summer season. Is that worth having a maskless audience?

**maskless in the orchestra, since the mezz and balcony audience does have to mask, but doesn't have to test

Yes, r22, it's worth it.

After the Tonys nobody cares and most actors start taking their summer vacations anyway.

SOMEONE forgot the link to the previous thread.

They are vaxxed but the majority of the Tony attendees are 60 years old and older….so this could be a terrible decision

r25, it's in the OP?

Well Nene Leaks go to Chicao?

Casting the lead in a show via a contest doesn’t always work. When Connie Fisher was cast in SOM they had another, more established actress lined up to split the role with Connie just in case she was a disaster in rehearsals but, fortunately for them, that didn’t happen and the other actress was let go. Can’t remember her name. The fact that this Roxie is only getting a two week run doesn’t sound good.

I think Nene is more Zeppo's type.

[quote]R25, it's in the OP?

I guess it was intended to be, R27, but the OP is grayed out for me, as it so often is in these theater gossip threads, and consequently the link to the previous thread isn't there.

More about cocks! Ben Platt's cock! Beanie Feldstein's cock!

Happy Talk About Happy Cock!

Would have been a better title.

Lover...

Beanie has COVID.

Dare I say Beanie looks slightly thinner in that video?

R35 Will she return? Is this the out they all need?

So she won’t make it to the Tonys, either? Awww.

I'm guessing this will be the end of Beanie....

The dark circles around her eyes are troubling.

And if you’re gonna rub your eyes like a toddler, why not retake the video?

[quote]r35 Beanie has COVID.

So, she sees no need to protect herself, and therefore the rest of her cast, while away from the theater.

Un-be-LIEV-able!

LEA FOR REPLACEMENT FRANNY!

Dussault-Re-Mi

Wow. This is really playing by the game book.

“The doctor tells me I need to take several months off to deal with my lingering symptoms …”

“My impending brain fog will be an impediment to my remembering lyrics of certain songs...”

A huge THANK YOU to the DL poster who recommend we DataLoungers see WHICH WAY TO THE STAGE.

I caught the final performance last night.

DAMN. It was so good. So much better than expected, and about so much more than I'd expected. Hilarious, smart, provocative and moving. I am so thankful I saw it. In many ways, after so many duds in a row this season, it reminded me of why I love going to the theatre, that shows can say something AND be wildly entertaining.

The entire cast was perfect, including hunky Evan Todd as Mark. If this show had had a higher profile, it'd have propelled him to a new career level. It might have done so anyway. Not only is he gorgeous and sexy, the role is perfect for him, and he handles it brilliantly. He's smart, sexy and convincing. What an excellent showcase for him.

Finally, who'd have ever guessed that Ana Nogueira, the Alice from the execrable OB musical Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice, had this in her? The woman can WRITE. Stay away from shitty OB musicals, Ana. Stay home and write. We need more from you. A lot more.

Marta in R44’s clip was played by Christopher Norris, who had a decent career as a young adult on episodic TV-she was a regular on Trapper John MD. The girl playing Louisa, Kathy Dunn, was apparently the only one of the Von Trapp children to be in the entire run. She was awful in a film called 13 Frightened Girls which ran on TCM a few years ago.

I just read the review for Which Way to the Stage. It sounds unendurable.

It's on Youtube, r48.

the trailer

I can imagine that every day Beanie is away from the show is a relief to her.

R47 Which will bring us back to Evan hot fuck TODD.

R44 I have been rewatching the Old Tony Awards, after finding a lost file on my harddrive, and by God, Nancy is a barely talented slut. Just when you think Susan Anton is the worst that can be, the strident Dussault starts slaughtering songs left, right and center.

Hold my beer, R54

Beanie has blocked comments on that IG post.

At the risk of committing gay blasphemy, I think the worst of the Tonys performers was Dorothy Loudon in the '80s, when it was apparent that she had little left but to elaborately make fun of herself and the songs she was singing.

[quote]Beanie has COVID.

Nobody saw this coming.

I somewhat agree, R57, but I think those Alexander Cohen/Hildy Parks Tony Awards "tributes" spared no one in their cringe factor. Not one of those performers came off well.

I think the first time I ever saw Loudon perform was in the Sondheim 60th birthday special when she did the medley of Losing My Mind and You Could Drive a Person Crazy. I thought she was very funny and charming and wonderful, but I also didn't know she was doing much of her regular schtick. But it worked for her in that performance (or maybe she was directed to use it sparingly), whereas on those Tony performances (which I didn't see until many years later), she was allowed to mug shamelessly.

It certainly didn't help that for every Leslie Uggams and Larry Kert, The Cohens would also use (and re-use) such people as Susan Anton, Nancy Dussault, Hal Linden, Robert Guillaume and other dinner theater level performers.

[quote]Beanie has Covid.

[quote]Nobody saw this coming. (Aside from everybody on DL)

That fucking [italic]WEDDING…!

[quote]Nancy Dussault, Hal Linden, Robert Guillaume and other dinner theater level performers.

Hal Linden is a Tony winner, and Nancy’s a Tony nominee. All three of them had substantial Broadway careers before moving into TV - hardly dinner theatre level.

R61 Nancy is shit. And so desperate.

That’s not true at all, r62. She’s a talented lady (very talented, in her prime), and she’s a lovely person.

[Quote] So, she sees no need to protect herself, and therefore the rest of her cast, while away from the theater

To be fair, I know several people who have been very careful and then tested p positive

However, it does seem like she has not done the show all that much in its first month.

Does Julie Benko have a standby now that Beanie has the Covids?

Yes r65. There is an understudy who covers Fanny and Mrs. Wexler (and plays a regular role in the show.)

R49, Which Way To The Stage was not unendurable. It was smart and laugh out loud funny. All of the performances were excellent. R47 is correct.

R67, so after all of the shirtless photos of Evan Todd (and rumors that he's taking raw loads) in the previous bitchfest that was #472, does he strip down to his skivvies in WWTTS?

Covid gives Beanie the opportunity to completely rewrite the script from a PR perspective. She gets sick, doesn’t get well enough to return to the show, has to leave permanently.

And from now on when she talks about FG Beanie will talk about how Covid ended her dream. The DL won’t be around to correct the story for accuracy and Beanie’s version becomes gospel.

[quote]The DL won’t be around

Thin ice motherfucker. Thin fucking ice.

"I have been rewatching the Old Tony Awards, after finding a lost file on my harddrive"

So gay, but I'm here for it.

Sorry, r31. I thought I'd save a post by putting the link to the last thread in the OP instead of r1. I forgot about the first post being greyed out.

The old Tonys shows are already on YouTube

It's easy to read a grayed out paragraph.. Put your cursor anywhere inside it and triple click. This selects the paragraph and highlights it. The text now shows up as white on a dark background.

[quote] not unendurable!

I think I saw that quote on one of the signs hanging from the marquee.

R68 No underwear for Evan but he does man spread in his tight jeans

R47 I was disappointed in the show. I loved the beginning with all the theatre fan stuff but once it started going woke, I was done. Plus I didn't believe for a second that the Evan Todd character would be attracted to the other guy, not based on looks but by personality.

How long will the show last if Beanie is out for an extended period?

[Quote] the OP is grayed out for me, as it so often is in these theater gossip threads

R31 make sure you’re set to Asbestos in settings. It sometimes reverts for no reason.

Beanie will not return

Otoh Loudon’s Fifty Percent in that late 90s Leading Ladies concert is probably the best thing she ever did.

Hi everyone! It’s Beanie!!

Thank you so much for the well wishes! When I tested positive for Covid several months ago, who could have predicted what came next? I want to take a few minutes to thank Julie Benko for stepping up and taking over while I was sick. Thank you to Ramin for seamlessly leading the team during my absence. Thank you to Jane for finally finding dentures that fit. While I’m sad I wasn’t able to continue with Funny Girl because of strict doctors orders, I’m excited to announce that during my recovery, I was able to film an exciting part in a new film. Watch for it in March. I want to thank Michael for casting me, against others wishes, in allowing my dream to come true. Farefewell Fanny and thank you to fans!!

Beanie will be back. That broad has a run of the play contract.

Neenie Leaks for Frannie!

[quote]Neenie Leaks for Frannie!

Pics please.

R68-Only in the MCC VIP Room after the show.

More Broadway Raw Loads stories please.

I'm still waiting to hear about all the happy cock(s?) r33 promised.

[quote]The entire cast was perfect, including hunky Evan Todd as Mark. If this show had had a higher profile, it'd have propelled him to a new career level. It might have done so anyway. Not only is he gorgeous and sexy, the role is perfect for him, and he handles it brilliantly. He's smart, sexy and convincing. What an excellent showcase for him.

Agreed completely, but prepare for the anti-Evan Todd loon from the previous thread to come after you for liking him and his performance. Or maybe that loon has slunk back into its hole. Here's hoping!

Beanie will find someone also sick and they'll do "I Do! I Do!" Jacquel Spivey maybe?

[quote]Covid gives Beanie the opportunity to completely rewrite the script from a PR perspective. She gets sick, doesn’t get well enough to return to the show, has to leave permanently. And from now on when she talks about FG Beanie will talk about how Covid ended her dream. The DL won’t be around to correct the story for accuracy and Beanie’s version becomes gospel.

Why do you say that the DL won't be around? And even if that's true, I think there has been more than enough coverage of Beanie's lack of professionalism, her limited talent, and her miscasting in the role outside of the DL that it's now a matter of public record. Plus, of course, the fact that she wasn't even nominated for a Tony Award.

[quote]Beanie will be back. That broad has a run of the play contract.

Of course, a contract can be rescinded if both sides agree to it, and at this point, Beanie is arguably a liability to the show if only for the fact that no one knows when she's going to be performing.

Also, maybe you were joking or quoting some line from some show, but there is no longer such a thing as a run-of-the-play contract.

I'm several days late with this, but then one is never late to carry on the more or less immortal discussion of Follies.

My understanding was that the original production of Follies sold extremely well. Any producer would normally have been pleased with the returns. The problem was that it became evident early on that the production was too expensive to make its money back. Whether 100% capacity every single night would have been enough I don't know, but while it was a respectable hit it wasn't the hottest ticket in town. Hair, Godspell and JC Superstar were where it was at for the cool young theatregoer and the middle-aged who wanted to prove themselves hip. (Also, at that time NY queens had a heavy schedule, what with the unlimited whoring around opportunities and the gay liberation protests in addition to their Broadway duties.)

If Hamilton wasn't at "trade your car in now for an Orchestra ticket" prices, it would likely be in the same boat as Follies. Either that or someone is making Bezos money out of it.

I assume box office is what the poster meant who said Follies "didn't work", because the recent NT production demonstrated that the show itself works beautifully, even for a hallowed institution like that.

[quote] Why do you say that the DL won't be around? And even if that's true, I think there has been more than enough coverage of Beanie's lack of professionalism, her limited talent, and her miscasting in the role outside of the DL that it's now a matter of public record.

Marsha P. Johnson herself said she and Sylvia were not at the Stonewall Riots when they broke out, that she (MPJ) showed up much later and Sylvia was passed out on a park bench all night. And still these two have been canonized for "giving us our freedom." By the time the film version of Merrily comes out, Beanie is going to be considered to have given a "master class" performance in FG by the morons of whatever is passing for twitter at that time. "After all, it HAS to be true. I read it on social media!!"

People believe what they want to believe.

[quote] Also, maybe you were joking or quoting some line from some show, but there is no longer such a thing as a run-of-the-play contract.

Bless your heart, dear.

Was Barbara Cook up for the role of Sally during the original "Follies"? Or was she already involved with the "Grass Harp", which had a great score and cast, but was a quick flop. Maybe if she had done "Follies" she wouldn't have put on all that weight back then, what with having to perform "Who's That Woman" 8x a week with the other dames.

[quote] Maybe if she had done "Follies" she wouldn't have put on all that weight back then, what with having to perform "Who's That Woman" 8x a week with the other dames.

Did nothing for me.

Re: Beanie & Spivey - Who's surprised that these late-Millennial, zoftig, relative-newbies can't handle 8 shows a week? Take note producers.

Was Spivey's absence due to Covid?

R89. Except it will be “I Don’t, I Don’t!”

Jaquel Spivey isn't a millennial. And no, R98, it's due to allergies and sinus problems, according to his Instagram. It couldn't be Covid, because there were a number of shows that he started but then left partway through, leaving the understudy to finish the show. And he's no longer doing matinees. If it were Covid, the absences wouldn't be so sporadic.

Thanks, R100. So many Bway people are getting Covid that I couldn't remember if Spivey was one of them. I know some of the cast got it at some point.

Sad to see that on Datalounge, as in too much of the real world, "millennial" is used as a catch-all to dismiss anyone under the age of 50. At this point it's just a synonym for "youngster" or "whippersnapper."

How come we never talk about...Nancy Dussault?

It's anyone under the age of 30, not 50, and if you'd ever had to manage any of them you'd know why their elders dismiss them. Gen Xs, whom baby boomers have also had to manage, are quite normal by comparison.

The whole millennial schtick is "I'm gracing you with my presence while I feel it's warranted, but really I should have your job even though I barely do mine, and I'm bored now and you don't appreciate me enough, so I'm wafting off to do something else."

I finally looked at the casting update for Almost Famous and noticed Sam Gravitte is not coming back to the show. Now great loss (for him), as he was basically ensemble and the show is garbage, but a loss for the audience, as he is shirtless in one scene and has a body for days.

It's also too bad Colin Donnell isn't continuing. He was one of the few brights spots in the show. But Casey Likes is fantastic, and if you want to see a a future star, then get a ticket. Otherwise, there's nothing else to recommend.

I thought Millennials were 1980-1996, and then after that was Gen Y.

I agree R79. Funny Girl won’t see her again.

Millennials ARE Gen Y.

This Evan Todd obsession is bizarre. Your fixation is sad. He’s never going to fuck you. He’s never happened and he’s not going to happen. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Not that we need to re-visit this argument, but no, Millennials are NOT Gen Y.

The night I saw A Strange Loop during previews, I said to my husband, "This guy is never going pull off 8 performances a week". True enough, he just can't physically do it. It's a huge role, plus he's overweight, and on stage the entire time. And it's his first Broadway show. He'd kill himself doing 8 shows a week for the entire summer.

I'm really praying the Tony goes to Rob McClure.

r104, still wrong. The point is, not everyone under the age of 30 is a millennial--eventually you're crossing over into Gen Z--and many millennials are over 30 (and pushing 40). The phrasing just tells everyone the speaker is lazy and doesn't know who they're actually complaining about.

Dear r47 (and everyone!), I'm the poster who originally brought up WHICH WAY TO THE STAGE? and Evan Todd, and I'm thrilled you got to see the show and enjoyed it and Evan so much. Such a fresh and genuinely witty show!

It puzzles me why the production didn't get more press and attention but maybe it's just too late in the season and most theater PR is directed towards Broadway and the Tonys.

Kids, I don't know what's wrong with these kids today....

Rob McClure is talented, but he's done leads in 3 or more Broadway shows, and he's still not a box-office star. Don't producers tend to kind of decide to give a chance to someone else to catch on with the public after all these opportunities? They gave up on casting David Cryer after a series of flops. Also, Santino Fontana, despite a Tony, isn't box-office either.

I do not care what others thin, Dorothy Loudon would have been a fantastic Dolly. Here she is at a Jerry Herman tribute....

Movie studios would ease someone out if they didn't catch on after a few big films if they didn't catch on.

What are we going to do about the other generation?

Why the fuck can’t lard-ass Jaquel do eight a week? It’s really not that hard a role. #loser #slacker

Santino got a Tony because there was no one else to give it to. He did not deserve it. And there's a reason he hasn't broken out.

With a strong director, Loudon could really dial back her performance. She was actually, sweet, lovely, ladylike and sympathetic in "Ballroom", guided by the great Michael Bennett. But in a farce such as "Noises Off" and in "Annie" she was raring to go in full comedic output force.

I saw London in Jerry’s Grils; she did a moving “Time Heals Everything.

How funny, I saw France!

[quote] But in a farce such as "Noises Off" and in "Annie" she was raring to go in full comedic output force.

As she should. Both performances are legendary and Easy Street is iconic.

and I saw London Lee perform at Shorehaven!

That's not a Jerry Herman tribute, r116, it was a Broadway Show.

Dothory was always gerat at BBQ griling.

Thanks r126...I never read the description or the comments...It looked like a tribute show.

I want to be a Broadway Star......but I don't want to have to do the shows.....thanks. But I will be able to do all the interviews and have lots of followers on social media.....

In fact - I'm a STAR already.....I'm the Latest Star!

Well, it basically *was* one, r128...in Broadway show form. I may be misremembering, but I think it closed early because Chita injured herself.

R130. You are correct. Chita’s track was played by various ensemble members after the accident and without a third star it just wasn’t the same.

Did she get her foot caught in the turntable, r131?

R132. That was Ann Crumb :). Chita was hit by a cab and ended up with pins in her leg. Chita being Chita she bounced back and is still dancing. God bless the legend.

So what’s the deal with Sam Gravitte? Is he single, coupled? Any hot hook up stories?

Chita gives the class and the sass.

I was not an Annie fan and I did not know Louden(somebody who did said 'she's finally got a hit!') but she was terrific.

Evan Hansen closing on broadway this Fall.

Ben will somehow make it about him

Next up… Beanie gets Monkeypox!

Crap, I have tickets to A Strange Loop at the matinee in two weeks. I bet the main actor’s going to stop doing all matinees but then

[quote] I'm really praying the Tony goes to Rob McClure.

You really don't understand woke Broadway

Tina closing in August.

[quote]How long will the show last if Beanie is out for an extended period?

Hard to say. It's already lasted much longer than it should have.

Call me Michael Riedel but I’m glad Tina and DEH will soon be gone. I’m sick of shows clogging up theaters for years.

THIS DAY IN BROADWAY HISTORY: In 1937, "The Case of Philip Lawrence" opened at the Lafayette Theatre.

Tom Stoppard’s ‘Leopoldstadt’ Sets Fall 2022 Broadway Engagement:

Grease turns 50. Lots of DL favs in attendance. Carole Demas never ages. Of course Ms Marilu Henner was in attendance.

For those who were trashing the new Roxie Hart based on some sort of rehearsal or promo video that should probably not have been posted, maybe you'll find this more to your liking.

I wonder if Barry Bostwick ever put out for Tom Moore during the Grease casting process?

Ummm, no, R148. She's still horrible.

"Stoppard has won four Best Play Tony Awards, more than any other playwright in history."

Didn't know that. 39 year span:

2007| The Coast of Utopia

1984  The Real Thing

1976 Travesties

1968  Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead

Or, R150, you're just being a nasty bitch, which apparently you do very well. I won't even bother to ask you to explain what you find so "horrible" about the performance in that clip, because I'm sure you can't.

R148, honestly, she's not bad, pretty good in fact, Plunky

The Case of Philip Lawrence

Mrs James Snyder posting on James Snyder's instagram. So I guess they're fine

The hands, Marilu...

Emma is miles better than Melanie Griffith was, based on this new “Roxie” tape.

She's lacking in pizzazz, r148. She's lovely and seems quite talented, but I don't think Roxie is the role for her.

I can barely recall was James Snyder’s scandal was. Didn’t some bitch complain about him being “too familiar” with her and then threaten to quit if he weren’t fired. And then she quit anyway?

The theater queen love for Rob McClure has never made much sense to me. In my experience (HONEYMOON IN VEGAS, SOMETHING ROTTEN, BEETLEJUICE), he's agreeable enough but absolutely never comes across as effortless -- the one thing I want in the kind of roles he plays. I can see him Working So Hard to get all his effects.

I don't begrudge the man his career, but a star he ain't, and never will be.

Broadway’s ‘Tina – The Tina Turner Musical’ Announces Closing Date:

R160, you're entitled to your opinion, but in my opinion, it's mostly semantic gobbledy-gook as to whether a performance seems "effortless" or whether the actor seems to be "working hard." Anyway, I'm not sure that the comedy of shows like MRS. DOUBTFIRE and WHERE'S CHARLEY? should seem effortless. One could argue that the obvious effort of that kind of comedy is part of the fun.

Tony presenters.

I like Rob McClure and think he's very talented; however, I don't understand (as someone posted recently) that they should give him the Tony this year as some sort of "career" award as if he's had such a long and distinguished run on Broadway. To R160's point, he's certainly done okay for himself but nothing that would warrant such recognition from the community, at least not so far.

[quote]Grease turns 50. Lots of DL favs in attendance. Carole Demas never ages. Of course Ms Marilu Henner was in attendance.

Is that Ilene Kristen of "Ryan's Hope" with Marilu?

Marilu remembers every single performance and what she wore to the theater that day!

R164, Rob McClure deserved to win for Chaplin.

Rob McClure has a strange ability to be terrific in a show without making any impression.

[quote] Or, [R150], you're just being a nasty bitch, which apparently you do very well. I won't even bother to ask you to explain what you find so "horrible" about the performance in that clip, because I'm sure you can't.

Sure I can. Her singing is wildly uneven. She misses as many notes as she manages to find. Her acting is amateurish at best and she's pretty much giving a high school musical performance. Maybe that's what passes for entertainment these days in long running shows, but I tend to doubt it. I saw Wicked again last Fall after not having seen it for 17 years, and it was the alternate Elphaba on and she was amazing. So there are people who can bring Broadway quality performances without being names. This one can't.

Oh, R152 is the person who got all insane because a couple people didn't fall in line with his Evan Todd worship. No wonder.

[quote] She misses as many notes as she manages to find. Her acting is amateurish at best and she's pretty much giving a high school musical performance.

Having many nieces, I have been forced to watch many a high school musical production. She's far better than that. She may be inexperienced but I think she has a good future in musical theatre

There's musical theater and there's Broadway.

When was Henner in Grease? She wasn't in the original cast. Moore was very good looking when young. He won the lottery with the show. Demas looks astounding. Who is her plastic surgeon?

I mean it isn't really going to matter. She's in for two weeks. And even if they extended her, that shitshow has been running on fumes longer than it was something special to see. Everyone there is phoning it in at this point, so why not have a mildly talented, if overenthusiastic Roxie? I suppose she brings a little sorely lacking energy to the whole thing.

Speaking of CHICAGO: why has there been no project yet around the bullied demise of Jeff “Mary Sunshine Standby” Loeffelholz? It could be a 1-person show, a chamber opera, a Lifetime Original Movie… yet, crickets.

Have the reported perpetrators of the abuse, Walter Bobbie and musical director Leslie Stifelman, stopped them all?

Walter & Leslie for matinee Sweeney & Mrs. Lovett!!

I bet Marilu Henner remembers every inch of Barry Boxwick’s massive tool.

Ilene Graff looks great in those photos. Ilene Kristen? Not so much. But she’s looked like a troll for the past 20 years, anyway.

I saw Marilu(Marty) in the first tour, r172. Judy was Rizzo, Conaway was Danny and Travolta was Doody.

I guess right after that Travolta and Henner got the Andrews Sisters musical Over Here!

R176, Marilu fucked Judd Hirsch. I mean, would you?

Marilu starred in the national tour of Annie Get Your Gun.

Back in the day, Judd Hirsch could get it (could have gotten it?). Good for Marilu.

I will forever love Carole Demas as being half of the Magic Garden duo.

Marilu starred in *A* national tour of Annie Get Your Gun, not *THE*.

[quote]I can see him Working So Hard to get all his effects.

He's the king of flop sweat!

[quote]r183 I will forever love Carole Demas as being half of the Magic Garden duo.

Carole & Barry

R182, What "day" was that? Judd has always been homely.

Young Budd

[quote]Sure I can. Her singing is wildly uneven. She misses as many notes as she manages to find. Her acting is amateurish at best and she's pretty much giving a high school musical performance.

What you wrote is not true of her performance in the clip from the actual show. I can only guess that you're reacting very badly to her decision to speak a few of the lyrics rather than sing them, but when she needs to hit a strong note as in "Who says that murder's not an art?", she certainly does. So I strongly disagree with you.

[quote]Oh, [R152] is the person who got all insane because a couple people didn't fall in line with his Evan Todd worship. No wonder.

That's not what happened at all, I merely objected to your stupid and pointless post (or someone else's) that "not everyone here is a fan of Evan Todd," which goes without saying. Like a four year old, you responded by shrieking that I couldn't stand anyone not liking Evan (which of course is not the case) and also by making the idiotic accusation that I only like him on stage because you think I want to fuck him. THAT'S what actually happened, you creep.

[quote] When was Henner in Grease? She wasn't in the original cast.

r172 Mary Lucy Denise Pudlowski first replaced in 1976. I saw her (school trip) with Treat williams

[quote]the idiotic accusation that I only like him on stage because you think I want to fuck him

Let us keep in mind that liking him onstage and wanting to fuck him are not mutually exclusive.

I forgot how fabulous this was...

Marilu was the original Marty in Chicago. She declined to go to NY with the show. Maybe she was finishing college? But she did play Marty on tour. I love Carole Demas because she got canned (probably unjustly) from two high profile musicals but never seemed to give a fuck.

Why did they have no room for Tovah Feldshuh flashing her panties, R193 ? ! ?

The new Roxie girl is great, acting-wise. She's landing a lot of laughs that even the most well known and well seasoned Roxies haven't, but I think the issue is that the score sits too low in her voice. She can clearly sing, but she's not able to project the notes loudly because of how low they are. Her acting more than makes up for it. I like her energy and I bet she makes for a very likable Roxie.

Chris Colfer did the best " Rose's Turn."

I see Beanie's PR team has moved on to Emma Pittman. We always need new star performers but this girl isn't it. She's actually very pretty and dances well but a headliner? No.

To make the Tony's more memorable, I hope someone brings Michael Jackson's victims to the show. Also, I hope the former company of Great Comet, ambush racist Orivo on stage and beat the shit out of her

[quote]She's actually very pretty and dances well

Well enough to do Girl in Yellow Dress?

That rehearsal tape of Emma should never have been released. It’s awful. And I’m the one who posted it here. The performance video is much better and she looks great.

r188, any and every day ending in the letter "y."

Speaking of Evan Todd what happened with the report of sex tapes with him getting double penetrated?

For all the talk about him bottoming there is a noticeable lack of photos from the rear publicly available.

Thank you r204 for providing a little fun here.

Nane Leaks can pull of 8 preforminces weeks. She dids alredy An has the stuff to be great Frannie Bruce

Well wishes from Julie Benko. They’re promoting her hard

Nell

R204, that's a nice perky ass. I sure hope it's getting plowed regularly.

I know that Demas was replaced by Watson in Nanette. I don't know why. What was the other big musical? And before all this she was naked in some play(because that's always important) and I don't know the name of that either.

I saw Grease in previews at the Broadhurst just after the move from the Eden. Not in a gazillion years did I think it would turn into one of the immortal musicals. I remember a critic at the time saying it deserved the superlatives of musicals like Pal Joey and Guys and Dolls. I thought you've got to be kidding. What an idiot. And it became bigger and more memorable than either of them.

Hirsch in a classic Taxi

R210 The Baker’s Wife

So between Evan Todd and Rob McClure the theme of this thread is totally average white men?

[quote]Nane Leaks can pull of 8 preforminces weeks. She dids alredy An has the stuff to be great Frannie Bruce

So sorry about your aphasia.

Can you get monkeypox from being eaten out?

If so, Beanie might be in danger!

You're welcome, r205. Happy to contribute.

The original production of Grease had one male and one female understudy but that was back when actors rarely, if ever, missed shows. Can you imagine?

If these are our leading men, I know why Broadway is dead.

Someone please explain who finds Gavin Creeel attractive

[quote]The original production of Grease had one male and one female understudy but that was back when actors rarely, if ever, missed shows. Can you imagine?

I can imagine it.

[r206] Bruce Willis I’m so glad you are back on DL

[quote] I see Beanie's PR team has moved on to Emma Pittman. We always need new star performers but this girl isn't it. She's actually very pretty and dances well but a headliner? No.

Thank you. I don't know when we got overrun by a bunch of shrieking fangurls, but your idol is thoroughly mediocre in every way. She'd be great on a cruise ship, but that's about it.

“ She'd be great on a cruise ship, ”

As ballast

Rob McClure did the surefire comic role inn Where's Charley at Encores and I didn't laugh once.

Thank you for sharing, r223.

Yes, R223. We needed that insight dearly.

Apparently it is, r209.

[quote]Let us keep in mind that liking him onstage and wanting to fuck him are not mutually exclusive.

True, but the idiot poster here felt it necessary to say that was the ONLY reason I liked him onstage. So many loons posting here :-(

[quote]Rob McClure did the surefire comic role inn Where's Charley at Encores and I didn't laugh once.

That's fine if you didn't, but City Center was filled with audience laughter over Rob's comic brilliance in the show. And there is an audio recording to prove it. So maybe, just maybe, there's something wrong with YOUR sense of humor.

[quote]love Carole Demas because she got canned (probably unjustly) from two high profile musicals but never seemed to give a fuck.

Those high profile musicals were No No Nanette and The Baker’s Wife. In the case of Nanette, she was fired about eight days before the out of-town tryout began. Susan Watson took over and, being a seasoned pro, mastered the part in a few days, including some tricky dance steps.

With The Baker’s Wife, Carole played the previews and first week of performances in Los Angeles. They knew they were in trouble even before the so-so reviews, and chose to dump Carole, who was not the problem. Teri Ralston was the understudy and played Genevieve while Patti LuPone rehearsed it. Patti took over after a few days. So the reality is that Patti was never the first person to sing “Meadowlark.” Carole Demas was. Then Teri Ralston. Patti was the third one to sing it. (There used to be a video on YouTube of Demas singing it in her cabaret act).

Somebody on this thread really doesn't like the idea of basic white dudes being attractive.

Carole's Meadowlark...

Teri's...

It’s interesting, there are a couple of clumsy modulations in Teri’s version. I guess she was able to sing the intro and coda in the samggbkey as Demas, but they had to modulate down for the refrains, to put them in a key she could really belt.

Does anyone have a tape of Carole Demas singing when she was actually playing the part?

[quote]Have the reported perpetrators of the abuse, Walter Bobbie and musical director Leslie Stifelman, stopped them all?

That story never made sense to me, r174. Walter Bobbie can be an asshole, but I never heard a bad thing about the MD. Chicago kept a legally blind dancer employed for years.

[quote]R232 I guess she was able to sing the intro and coda in the [bold]samggbkey [/bold]as Demas

Sounds difficult!

[quote] That's fine if you didn't, but City Center was filled with audience laughter over Rob's comic brilliance in the show. And there is an audio recording to prove it. So maybe, just maybe, there's something wrong with YOUR sense of humor.

Could you shut the fuck up already? Your know-it-all dictatorial bullshit is really grating. You've done nothing but tell people how to think since you flapped your wings and landed here. You're really fucking annoying. And I'll save you some time tracking me- I'm not the only one who thinks so.

Speaking of Grease and Walter Bobbie ,why wasn't he at the 50 Year Reunion? He was the original Roger singing "Moonin'" with Garn Stephens, who was fired from ALNM.

R237, After Garn was fired, they brought her back to Grease and fired Jamie Donnelly who replaced her and would one day play Jan in the film.

"Garn!"

R213 you're right. We should probably talk about mediocre BIPOC actors who are lavished with praise right now because of their color.

Beanie got the same strain of Covid that Prince Andrew got...

The "Conveniently Timed So I Don't Have To Go To Gigs I Don't Wanna/Ain't Welcome At/They Didn't Nominate Me" Strain of Covid.

[quote]After Garn was fired, they brought her back to Grease and fired Jamie Donnelly who replaced her

Garn did okay a couple of years later. She was in the supporting cast of the second year of Phyllis. For a long time it looked like they were going to get a third season, but Judith Lowry had died and even though they did a whole half-season without her, CBS decided to pull the plug.

R242, Hence, no "Mother Dexter" spin-off.

How to hire Beanie Feldstein. Hurry, as I'm sure her bookings are sky high.

Wow. She seems to be in the 75-150k range for an appearance. And what does she do for the $$? Not singing, I hope.

She will also except payment in Whoppers

accept not except

[quote]She was in the supporting cast of the second year of Phyllis.

They created a sitcom about Phyllis from Follies? Sounds wacky.

Especially the crossover episode with the sitcom Stella! featuring a young Marlon Brando

Thank you R236. The Evan Todd Troll™️ is beyond annoying.

R236, all I did was give a FACTUAL report that Rob McClure's performance in WHERE'S CHARLEY? earned huge laughs from the audience, based on my own viewing of the show live as well as a bootleg audio. And I suggested that, if you didn't find him funny, perhaps your own sense of humor is the issue. You responded with a list of grammar school-level insults, behind the shield of anonymity. Because that's the kind of person you are.

Not nearly annoying as someone who keeps bringing it up, when it was long forgotten already. Why? Just so you can have the last word, r 250? That’s awfully Aspie-ish behavior. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if you’re not both the same person. In any event, you’re the biggest DL sin: you are boring.

Thanks, R252. The percentage of mentally ill and/or emotionally disturbed people who post here is alarmingly high. And as for the rabid anti-Evan Todd troll, one can only imagine what the damage is there.

To clarify: is the Evan Todd troll the one who finds him attractive or the one who doesn't find him attractive?

To clarify, they're both boring. And the queens who try to have insulting back and forth conversations here ruin everything just as they did in junior high which is why no one sat with them then and why they're bitter and can only have social intercourse (or any intercourse) here.

They suck ass--and not in the good way.

Shhh, stop talking about it R254. No one cares what it thinks. Ignore it.

R234, Wow, the original cast of the Chicago revival really was stellar

I have been dubbed the "Evan Todd troll" by some creep who posts here, because I posted that Evan gave an excellent performance in WHICH WAY TO THE STAGE? In turn, I have dubbed that creep the "anti-Evan Todd troll," because he's obsessed with the subject and KEEPS BRINGING IT UP, as R252 noted.

I hope that clarifies the situation :-)

New Follies directed by Ivo van Hove in planning stages. Beanie Feldstein as Phyllis and Evan Todd as Ben are rumored names.

I welcome posts by the Evan Todd Troll but solely if there are more pictures...

R260, ask and ye shall receive :-)

R261, nice...but where's the purported video...

Ryan Murphy Netflix miniseries about the road to Broadway for Follies is in development with Sarah Paulson as Alexis Smith.

Speaking of Alexis, today is her 101th birthday!

(Btw, did anyone here see Platinum?)

R263, Well, that's appropriate casting.

Sean Hayes Announces GOOD NIGHT, OSCAR Will Come To Broadway:

Jesse Green reviews "Bedwetter":

I do hope before GOODNIGHT, OSCAR arrives on Broadway they replace Sean Hayes' $4.99 polyester scrunchy velour slippers with some period-perfect leather house shoes.

Having recently seen THE BEDWETTER at the Atlantic, I'd say Jesse Green was being kind.

What a disappointment! Some of the writing and lyrics are genuinely funny but everything else is utterly clueless. The ugliest and least helpful design I've ever seen in a show in NY and that includes the clumsy and generic sets and the horrifyingly unflattering costumes and abominable wigs. The direction is so amateurish, it felt like watching chaotic tech rehearsals, not a finished production, especially when 6 stagehands in all their headset gear keep appearing and shuttling unnecessary furniture off and on the stage. In spite of all that, some very good work from Caissie Levy and Darren Goldstein as the parents and the redoubtable Bebe Newirth as Nana. The young lead is screechy and annoying AF and the supporting cast isn't much better, all over-playing the comedy with shit-eating grins like a desperate SNL sketch.

I don't think this one is moving uptown.

Indeed, r264...

Maybe the show will cause Sarah Silverman to disappear for good.

Evan Todd has a specific freckle on his taint that makes him very recognizable in his hole pics/vids

I remember Kaye Ballard being in Pirates and she was shocked by the absences as she had come from a time when one had to be in seriously bad shape to miss a performance. I imagine there was the serious threat of losing your job. With all the good performers unemployed why is this no longer a threat? I can't imagine a performer at any level saying to David Merrick, Hal Prince or Alexander Cohen, Rodgers and Hammerstein, Cheryl Crawford and Irene Selznick Listen I've got a wedding to go to so I'm going to miss an entire weekend. It would have been unthinkable. Opera singers were another matter keeping opera administrators and audiences terrified that a star singer might not show.

FANNY WATCH: Julie Benko : "Hi all! I’m confirmed to be on for Fanny [in Funny Girl] through the end of this week (Sunday 6/11). See you at the August Wilson, gorgeous… and feel better Beanie!"

Sooner or later someone's gonna do an All About Eve parody of this Funny Girl production.

That’s so funny. You just know that Beanie secretly loathes Julie Benko.

Or thanks her, since she doesn't have to go to the theater. She's through with the show and can't wait to get out. They don't make them like the used to. This generation is " If I can't be successful right away, I'll just quit."

Ramin looks overjoyed to be sharing a curtain call with Julie and very sweetly kisses her hand.

Whatever else one thinks about the collapse of a relationship between Megan Mullally and Debra Messing, it’s so much more painful the destruction of the relationship between Megan Mullally and Sean Hayes.

But it was all Megan’s fault, I bet.

So, has Benko performed more than Beanie at this point? What are they going to do in a week when Beanie doesn’t come back? They will not give this show to Benko. Are they going to give it to Lea Michelle?

Are those August dates that Julie Benko posted over a month ago still valid? I want to see the show (since this will likely be the only revival during my lifetime), but I do not want to see Beanie.

Cool that GOODNIGHT OSCAR is transferring. I've heard good things.

GOODNIGHT OSCAR should be the title of G's autobiography.

Ramin also kisses Beanie’s hand every night but it’s covered in bacon grease.

I don't understand why they just didn't do it w/ Lea Michelle in the first place. She's hard working, she shows up. Whatever anyone thinks of the character, the role requires a terrific singer, first and foremost.

So glad The Bedwetter got hammered. I can't stand Sarah Silverman. I don't usually root for a show to bomb if I haven't seen it and know it's terrible (but with the Atlantic lately, odds are it will be) but I loathe her and her sudden wokeness and bitching about "jewface" which is completely ridiculous. Fuck her.

For a moment I thought that was Ava Gardner at R270.

She certainly could've made the romantic plot work and would've been reunited w/ Jane Lynch. The people running this show are bozos.

Pertinent to our interests.

Drama Desk winners, if anyone cares

Wow, the Drama Desks went full on "reparations" this year.

We're woke!!!!

"The Bedwetter" sounds like a sequel to "Urinetown".

[quote]They will not give this show to Benko. Are they going to give it to Lea Michelle?

Now that will be a coup de théâtre!

I have a friend who makes major award prognostications (Oscar, Tony, Emmy) based on whatever/whoever wins the lesser awards prior or comes up in the Gold Derby races. He now SWEARS Ruben Santiago-Hudson is going to win Best Lead Actor in a Play because of the DD. And he SWEARS Myles Frost will win because someone on Gold Derby has him in 1st place. And he'll change his mind five more times before Sunday if anyone in a position of authority suggests otherwise. It's exhausting. I've never seen someone so suggestible in my life.

Actually, r295, more like cootie theater!

I know this was hours ago, but I couldn't post then, and this can never be posted enough IMO. Phyllis credits (with Garn in the closing).

Garn's Miller's Son...

I saw "A Little Night Music" during its Boston tryout, and after Garn sang, "The Miller's Son," I turned to my friend and said, "She'll be replaced in New York."

R299. Jesus

Garn married hot daddy Tom Atkins and got chubby.

Mooning

HOLY CRAP! The title of that BroadwayWorld article pretty much states that SIX won the Best Musical award at the Drama Desks, but the article itself correctly has KIMBERLY AKIMBO as the winner. That's a whopper of a mistake.

Will woke never end for theatre? Or will woke END theatre?

It will be refreshing if Hugh and Sutton do NOT win Sunday evening.

I don’t think either of them are expected to, R306.

Yeah, I don't think either are the front runner in their respective categories.

NY Mag is predicting they both win

Is it true Hugh and Sutton are the reason for the delay in the recording of the cast recording, holding out for a better $$$ deal?

Traditionally, Broadway cast albums were always recorded the Sunday after opening night.

I would honestly imagine the delay in the recording of TMM revival is due to questioning whether anyone wants to hear versions of those songs "sung" by two totally and inferior unsuitable leads. I mean, what's the point?

[quote]R305 Will woke never end for theatre? Or will woke END theatre?

Well, hopefully it ends you so you’ll shut up, finally.

[quote]I would honestly imagine the delay in the recording of TMM revival is due to questioning whether anyone wants to hear versions of those songs "sung" by two totally and inferior unsuitable leads. I mean, what's the point?

It occurred to me that maybe Hugh and Sutton are both using money as the ostensible reason why they're holding out on a cast album, when it's really that they both realize an album would do them no favors -- her because she's vocally miscast in her role, him because his voice is in such awful shape.

R312 must be woke.

Good lord, R299. Holy moley.

All the surviving cast members of ALNM speak highly of Garn Stephens, who was the superior actress, and they feel she got a bum deal. Miller’s Son wasn’t written till late in the rehearsal process, and no one really helped Garn learn it.

Garn definitely sounds underrehearsed. Was the creative team somehow looking for a way to get rid of her and hire a different type?

Come From Away closing in the fall

Isn't it an all but unbreakable rule that actors are paid one whole week's salary for making the recording and that no one asks for a salary negotiation?

I don't remember ev er hearing that soimeone was earning more for the OC. But I do recall that Joan Jett's agent, who was probably not used to Broadway, tried to get her more money for The Rocky Horror Show and the label just replaced her with someone else.

Anyway, an extra week's star salary for just one day's work really is pay enough, surely.

Cocks? Ok R3 and R4, Several years ago the play THE HISTORY BOYS toured about for over 600 performances, ending up on Broadway for a six-month run in 2006, earning many awards. Ten reasonably studly English actors were in the cast, many single, single now. Anyone see any of them around, know any, have sex with one, have any cock stories?

Interesting read

Interesting that "Come from Away" is closing in October...Odd date. Usually it's right around Labor Day. Wonder what the Shuberts are up to?

A closing around Labor Day might be too close to 9/11 and the anniversary for comfort. Bad optics?

Alternately, the cynical take might be that they're expecting a box office boost around that time, for anniversary reasons?

Jesse Green in the NYT. declaring Robbins, Fosse, etc to be monstrous. Strange article.

It really is a weird article, isn’t it? You can feel him wanting him to be a good little NYTimes wokester on the one hand and a reasonable theatre professional on the other. God bless Chita.

I didn't think Garn's version of Miller's Son was all that bad since it was early in the previews and it's a ridiculously difficult song. Listening to the audience, she was clearly funny and in character and this was also a show with two other definite non singers, Glynis Johns and Hermione Gingold. Cariou said she was getting better gradually and could have one it but she was way way better in the role than D. Jamin Bartlett, although Barlett sang the song well.

Hugh and Sutton don’t seem like greedy types and I doubt they would screw the cast out of a weeks pay for recording the show. We really don’t need another MM recording.

Willemijn Verkaik closed in Come From Away in the Netherlands last weekend but is playing Mrs.Danvers in Rebecca in Vienna starting in September. She should be playing Bobbie in Company. Rosalie Craig reminded me a lot of her when I saw it in London. I don’t think Sondheim shows are put on at all in the Netherlands. Is it because his lyrics would be particularly difficult to translate into Dutch?

[quote] Was the creative team somehow looking for a way to get rid of her and hire a different type?

No. The Miller’s Son was not in the show, nor planned for it, when it was cast & rehearsals started. Silly People was written for that place, for Frid. But Hal began to suspect they needed something punchier. Steve had one of his bursts of inspiration, and delivered The Miller’s Son a few days before they left for Boston.

It didn’t help Bartlett with the cast that she was cool and professional but not overly friendly, and that her acting couldn’t come close to Garn’s.

And Millers Son was totally superfluous. So many people didn't understand the meaning. And what is this uneducated maid doing singing these complicated rhymes. Sondheim hates I Feel Pretty for "it's alarming how charming I feel" but this is way worse.

R328, I fear if Sondheim lyrics were translated into Dutch (or German, for that matter), his musicals would all last 4 hours long.

Seriously, they would be unsingable, if they were even translatable. Imagine trying to capture all the wordplay. Or make the jokes land.

Lots of new musicals next season. The Shuberts have dollar signs in their eyes.

"How can I screw the next production for more rent"?

I don’t think anyone misses the point of Miller’s Son. Petra considers her options and settles into the one that fits, however she may wish otherwise.

They may miss the point of the song in the show, but that says more about an audience’s willingness to think just a little bit. The entire show is based on people choosing the wrong option in love, but somehow settling their way into the one that fits. In fact, the source material (“Summers of a Summer Night”) ends with Petra abc Frid celebrating everything passing by.

The Miller’s Son was a huge hit, though, even if you don’t care for it, r330. It was the second most- mentioned song in the score (after Srnd in the Clowns). But they rushed in their search for someone who could sing it well. Bartlett could, but she was a nondescript presence in the show otherwise. If Garn had stayed in the part and had been coached into a real performance of the song, no one would have questioned why this character was singing.

R333 and R334, in Sondheim and Company, there is a long discussion on how misunderstood the song is by professionals. Sondheim said it's dilly and dally and romp in the hay but others thought it was about a girl who had to stay within her social orbit.

And no way was it the most mentioned song after SITC. It was clearly A Weekend In the Country because it closed out Act 1 on such a high because of the repeat choruses.

D'Jamin was perfectly fine in the role. She was electric singing the song. It's not like she had Hamlet's soliloquoys for the rest of her role. She rolled around with Frid on stage a bit is mostly what I recall and had some lines in a few scenes. Plus she took part in "A Weekend in the Country" ensemble.

Ab in den Wald

Checked out Drama Book Shop today. Very lovely store, with some gorgeous posters of Broadway plays, Folies Bergeres, etc. A bit too much of LMM all-around -- he's even on some of the reusable drinking cups they sell. But at least "Hamilton" and "In the Heights" were being played on a perpetual loop like I feared they might have been. Very nice staff, too. So good on him!

were NOT being played, that is

I saw the original ALNM, thought "The Miller's Son" was electrifying, never thought twice about D'Jamin's abilities. Of courxe, I was 15.

I love all of you bitches so much! So here's a little treat, Evan Todd presenting hole in a jockstrap.

R335, out of curiosity, could you check your cite? There is not much said of Miller’s Son in Sondheim & Co. beyond discussion of Garn’s firing. I also went through Finishing the Hat, and he has no comments (after a long discussion of Silly People). I’ve never heard of Sondheim saying what you claim he says, but I’d love to find the quote.

Any rumors to the truth that Lens Dunham is being rehearsed 24/7 to take over from Beanny in FG?

Sure, R343. Because after the Beanie debacle, the producers would definitely want another fat actress who can't sing.

R341, That ass looks too beefy to be Evan Todd's.

R341, That hole has seen more activity than Old Faithful. It looks like month old pastrami.

[quote]R335 Sondheim said it's dilly and dally and romp in the hay but others thought it was about a girl who had to stay within her social orbit.

Well, are we to think housemaids at the turn of the century had unlimited marriage options?

Much like the Reichard pic, it was inevitable that once someone posted something, the skeptics would immediately deny it's him.

But as 157 in the last thread noted, the photos were taken in his dressing room, which he posted a lot on social media and was interviewed in. Note the couch and the big pillow.

Woof, just read that New York Times article. It's enough to make you never want to hire anyone between the ages of 18-30.

Jesse Green should know better than to write shit like that. I guess his job must be in jeopardy.

[quote] Much like the Reichard pic

wait, did someone post Reichard's dong?

W H E R E ??????

Back in 463 and 464. And r5 in 466.

I like Evan’s hole.

We're going to have another big cull this summer and fall, aren't we?

[quote]Any rumors to the truth that Lens Dunham is being rehearsed 24/7 to take over from Beanny in FG?

Unlike Beanie, who merely has COVID, I have LONG COVID, among several other chronic afflictions, and am unable to do anything 24/7.

Sondheim experts, why would Garn Stephens leave GREASE to do a non-singing role, even if it was the new Prince-Sondheim show? Would it really have been a smart career move without the song?

[quote]Woof, just read that New York Times article. It's enough to make you never want to hire anyone between the ages of 18-30.

Pretty simple actually. Don't try to fuck them in exchange for work and don't throw furniture at them.

Is that really too difficult for theatre professionals to manage?

R348, How is it that YOU obtained Evan's hole pic?

R356. Maybe she was tired of Grease and wanted a new adventure.

I’m assuming To Kill a Mockingbird will not be returning. Weird that there hasn’t been an announcement.

From that Jesse Green article:

[quote]There have, of course, been inspiring teachers and successful creators who were not monsters, but the monsters had a way of legitimizing bad behavior generally. Hal Prince was often considered the nicest of the great men — but ask Patti LuPone about him.

Well, considering that LuPone has publicly trashed a huge percentage of all the people she has ever worked with, verbally and/or in print, perhaps we might not consider her the most objective or reliable source on this subject.

Two other fatal flaws in Green's article: (1) he somehow tries to conflate the horrible behavior of theater tyrants like Robbins et al. with the lack of representation of POC in the theater until recently, a tenuous argument at best; (2) he quotes Karen Olivo, and the inclusion of those quotes calls the credibility of the whole article into question.

Richard Rodgers was as much a pig as Harvey Weinstein.

Every ingenue on Broadway knew never to find herself alone in a room with him.

I'm looking at you, Shirley Jones and Diahann Carroll.

R348 - Damn that's some excellent sleuthing with the pillow and couch. Wow and HOT.

R352 Thank you!

It's a brown sofa. Wow. Probably the ONLY one of its kind. Maybe you can move on to who killed JonBenet next.

Karen's boyfriend's back...

r365 Given the other ass pics show the same pillows, same throw and same frames above, then yeah, one of a kind.

Where else but DL can one find Jesse Williams' cock, Daniel Reichard's cock, Evan Todd's hole and Jay Armstrong Johnson and his partner fucking a twink?

I want to speak to a manager.

R113,

R47 here, and again, thank you for strongly recommending WHICH WAY TO THE STAGE? Your advice was heeded, and I'm all the richer for it.

Also, please ignore the Evan Todd hater. He didn't see the show (obviously), and neither of us is trying to "make him happen" (as if that were possible). We simply saw that a hunk get a role he could shine in. And he did.

I saw AMERICAN BUFFALO this afternoon in advance of the Tony Awards. I was bored. Sam Rockwell was great, but there was less to the play than I remember. I think I even preferred that most recent Broadway revival, the one that closed after a few performances. But I was highly amused to get a Pride version of a Playbill for a Mamet play. That's a keeper.

Saw THE BEDWETTER on Saturday. The reviews feel mostly fair. I enjoyed the show but wanted, sadly, a stronger score, and Adam Schlesinger isn't going to get to work on it to make it better. Fucking Covid. I wonder if the creative team is going to ask David Yazbek to take a more active role in the production moving forward. I hope so. This show has potential but isn't quite ready to go the distance.

R361 wins

[quote] Also, please ignore the Evan Todd hater. He didn't see the show (obviously), and neither of us is trying to "make him happen" (as if that were possible). We simply saw that a hunk get a role he could shine in. And he did.

You know Evan Todd is never going to fuck you, right? Which, when you consider that used up hole of his, means you're beyond even his low standards.

I guess he was killing time after a matinee, R367.

I think what people are missing about that NYTs piece is that yes, there was only one Jerome Robbins. But his behaviour inspired 100s, if not 1,000s, or mediocrities and made it acceptable for them to traumatise vulnerable and powerless students and performers with an imitation of “artistic brilliance” that was never anything more than abuse and didn’t produce terrific performances or productions and certainly didn’t develop anyone’s acting technique - in a lot of cases, probably damaged the actor’s talent. It takes a lot of effort, in any discipline, to overcome bad training.

And utilising one’s power and the subject’s inherent and necessary vulnerability to progress sexual congress is at the very least unnecessary and in obvious ways abusive - wouldn’t it be better to channel that energy, desire and longing into the performance itself?

Robbins may have had a strategy - or he may have just been a talented monster - but the mediocrities who sought to imitate him and used him as a justification for their own targeted abuses mostly had no strategy and forced students to submit to their unearned authority in pursuit of some greater reward that never emerged and only left the student in pain, shattered and insecure, with eventually only that once teacher’s approval gained. Which wasn’t worth anything in the long run.

I’ve seen it happen so many times and provoked the ire of teacher’s when I refused to submit to their method of “breaking me down.” You don’t have to be traumatised to act or perform well. There is no benefit as an actor to being “moulded” into one person’s idea of…what? Being good? Any artistic creative endeavour is about opening yourself up, asserting your true self. It’s not about demolition of others, not in the long run.

The Jerome Robbins of the world are VERY few and far, far between but those imitating him, who demand the silence and collision of everyone else in the room - lest they be next, are a dime a dozen. That’s the unfortunate legacy of a talented, sacred monster.

Apologies for typos. Hope that makes sense.

But R374, you're talking about what choreographers do to dancers and conflating it with acting. Yes Robbins was a director and a choreographer, but really he knew nothing about how to talk to actors. He directed the same way he choreographed. And the style of working with dancers is you treat them like you're their drill sergeant. And considering that Robbins also came from the ballet world, where that is practiced tenfold, it's less being a monster than tradition. Now I'm not excusing it, but many of the people in Green's article were choreographers first, directors second, and that was how they were taught. And if you listen to people like Chita, who were dancers first, actors second, that's the kind of authority they understand. I think it goes much deeper (at least in the examples Green cited) than "I'm going to be an abusive asshole." Again, that doesn't make it right, but it's very likely it didn't come from a conscious desire to abuse.

R320, supposedly the actor who played Rudge has a huge, thick cock.

Is that Evan Todd's official Playbill photo? If not, it should be.

Have people on this thread never seen porn

[quote] why would Garn Stephens leave GREASE to do a non-singing role, even if it was the new Prince-Sondheim show? Would it really have been a smart career move without the song?

Put yourself back in the mid 70s. I bet no one ever imagined Grease had legs and Sondheim/Prince were the 'it' boys of the decade with Company and Follies so far.

Does Slave Play count, R 379?

r358, they were all over L P S G a few years ago so I'm sure many people have seen them. (I'm r348, but not r341 who originally posted one or r367 who posted more.) He had them removed there, so obviously/understandably doesn't want them posted and I personally wouldn't have posted them. The background makes it too obvious it's him, despite r365 being a moron.

R326, Weren't Garn and Len once romantically involved, pre Glenn?

Len was involved with all his leading ladies going back to Stratford, Ontario, where he fucked (and married) Roberta Mawell. Glynis, Betty Bacall, Glenn and all the others followed. He was a hunky talented straight man on Broadway....who could blame them?

Everyone forgets that when Follies lost the Best Musical Tony to Two Gentlemen of Verona, the other musical that lost it that season was Grease. Who'd have ever thought back then that the show with the "longest legs" would be Grease?

Timeout Tony predictions. Woke Broadway on full display.

I don't find Len Carious particularly attractive, but I can see where his leading ladies might. He's all man.

I'm getting Big Dick Energy from him in older photos.

Glynis? Seriously?

Debate on ATC about Sondheim's writing a new verse to " Sen in the Clowns" for Streisand:

“What a surprise

Who could foresee?

I've come to feel about you what you felt about me.

Why only now when I see that you've drifted away;

What a surprise, what a cliché.”

In his collection of lyrics called 'Finishing the Hat,' Sondheim does explain why he acceded to Streisand's request:

'One of those fine singers who recorded ['Send in the Clowns'] was Barbra Streisand, a performer who examines the lyrics she sings very carefully, and who questioned the dramatic connection between the two choruses (that is, the moment leading to the stanza that begins with the second iteration of 'Isn't it rich?'). Without Fredrik's apology and departure in-between, there is indeed an emotional gap, so when she asked me to write something that would accomplish the transition, it seemed a logical request rather than the whim of a diva.'

response:

...because the liner notes to Streisand's Broadway album, tell a different story. They say that Streisand liked the bridge so much that she wanted to sing it twice, so she asked him to write a second set of lyrics so she didn't have to sing the same lyrics again. They also say that she wanted to end with "don't bother, they're here," so she asked him to re-write the lyrics so that was the last phrase of the song.

The liner notes sound more like the "whim of a diva" than the version that Sondheim gives.

Sorry to bring up McClure again, but this actually seems like good casting (even if he's a bit old for it).

At least Madonna had the grace, on HER liner notes, to thank Sondheim "for the privilege" when he wrote a couple of original songs for her for Dick Tracy.

Do you think Madge stayed close to Steve after DICK TRACY wrapped? Was she a regular at "game nights" at the townhouse?

Never really thought much about Cariou, but...this isn't bad at all.

More. (Not to everyone's taste, I'm sure, but definitely to mine.)

Finally! DL has come through! During these dreary times, The Evan Todd Photos are like man-na from the skies.

[quote] Interesting that "Come from Away" is closing in October...Odd date. Usually it's right around Labor Day. Wonder what the Shuberts are up to?

Um...maybe they don't want to keep losing money on it.

Plus, anyone can watch the production for free on cable.

Karen Olivo goes by They? Since when?

The Green NY Times article was interesting. Is this the big Bway tell all that was rumored about?

[quote] It really is a weird article, isn’t it? You can feel him wanting him to be a good little NYTimes wokester on the one hand and a reasonable theatre professional on the other. God bless Chita.

What's woke about calling out all the abuse in the industry?

r396, I believe the poster's point was that it's odd they're closing in October instead of September. Keeping it open an extra month doesn't seem like a way to lose less money.

That article is accurate and could have been a lot nastier and more in depth.

R370, thank you for continuing to bring sanity to the Evan Todd discussion -- in stark contrast to the severe mental illness and emotional disturbance evidenced by R372. Does anyone know what bridge that troll lives under, so we can go flush it out?

Those pics of Todd are HOTTT!!! No wonder that hole is used!

[quote]And the style of working with dancers is you treat them like you're their drill sergeant.

First of all, that is not everyone's style of working with dancers, even in the ballet world. But also, of course, it's a question of degree and where to draw the line. One can be very strict with dancers in terms of making them do it over and over until you get what you want out of them, but that doesn't mean one also has to verbally abuse a person and tear them to shreds emotionally.

Karen Olivo complaining about how the Robbins choreography is murder on lesser dancers is rich. If you're a lesser dancer, don't take difficult demanding dance roles!

[quote] the actor who played Rudge has a huge, thick cock.

We need names, darling, names.

Len Cariou was a very hot man in his day. Unfortunately, his day was the early 1970s and he was often a victim of that era's horrible men's fashion and hair design.

I found it interesting that the Jesse Green article mentioned the alleged William Ivey Long abuse accusations and yet when you clicked on the link, it went to an article from another journal, not the NY Times. The NY Times has refused to cover the story.

Seymours come and go very quickly. Maybe McClure will stick around for a while.

r406, Rudge was played by Russell Tovey, so I'm not sure how serious the poster was being. The fact that he refused to do full-frontal in Angels in America, and that scene was awkwardly blocked to keep his back to the audience (even though it really would have helped to see the character's face in those moments) makes me doubtful. Even the modestly endowed Mr. Pace did the full-frontal on Broadway.

R408 Because as much as Court Watson is trying to makes the cancellation of William Ivey Long happen, it won't. Nor should it. From all I've read, that was just the case of a horny older gay coming on too strong, and a younger gay being complicit and yet not wanting to "go there." It was not Weinstein-Cosby-level predatory behavior. Horny older gays are always going to get flirty with younger twinks. Now, hopefully, Long has ceased this behavior.

However, Long does need to give space for other designers. He takes up too much of the market share. Then again, he and his studio always deliver excellent work.

The Times is pretty cowardly. They'll only report on something after it becomes common knowledge. They knew about James Levine for decades like everyone else in the classical music industry but wrote nothing. They gushed about him incessantly already knowing what was going on. Their attempts now to be woke are pretty horrible. The paper keeps getting worse. It should go the way of the Herald Tribune and all the other NY papers that disappeared decades ago.

I mean, it's hardly just one person saying things about Long. The NPR article had another guy go on record, and then there was this:

"Another Lost Colony worker, a production manager named Mary Elizabeth Stewart (later Beth Butler), filed a lawsuit against the producers of The Lost Colony, RIHA. Stewart claimed sexual harassment, gender discrimination and retaliation, among other complaints. The suit, which was centered on Long's behavior, was filed in U.S. district court for the Eastern District of North Carolina in January 2002.

In a series of potentially explosive allegations, Stewart's suit claimed that between 1999 and 2001, multiple people working at The Lost Colony reported to her that Long had sexually assaulted or harassed them. Those accusations included forcing one young man to have sex with another man at Long's direction, while an RIHA board member watched. The same man claimed that Long performed oral sex on him against his wishes, and that Long also tried to make him find "young boys with whom Mr. Long could engage in homosexual activity." Despite the nature of the allegations, NPR could not find any record of a police report or criminal charges ever having been filed.

The suit also said that Long took "sexually revealing and inappropriate photographs" of RIHA employees for a Men of The Lost Colony calendar he was putting together, as well as other nude photographs of RIHA employees. Additionally, Stewart said, her own husband at the time was sexually propositioned by one of Long's assistants, with the intention of having Long watch. According to Stewart's suit, when she went to the RIHA leadership and board to complain about Long, she was fired."

That's all typical ridiculous over-the-top pervy gay behavior, as anyone who has hung around any situation with a high level of gay men. Is anyone surprised? If one doesn't want to swim with the horndog sharks, get out of the ocean.

Ugh, that Lea Michele comeback will not be stopped.

"Original cast members of the 2006 Broadway production of Spring Awakening will reunite for a special performance during this Sunday’s Tony Awards events, producers said today.

Also performing Sunday will be the casts of A Strange Loop, Company, Girl From the North Country, MJ, Mr. Saturday Night, Music Man, Paradise Square and Six, as well as past Tony winners Bernadette Peters and Billy Porter."

I wonder what Bernadette will sing. Smart money is on “With So a little To Be Sure or” or “ No One Is Alone” but I’d love “Losing My Mind”

So was Milton Greenwald gay? From his work I would say yes. But I've never come across anything that would substantiate it. On the bluray of Fair Weather it includes his number that was cur from the film as an extra. Though not scored and working mostly from counts you can see what a terrific dancer he was.

R409-Or maybe McClure will be the last nail in Little Shop's coffin. That seems more likely.

I saw McClure play Seymour before he was a star...He was fantastic.

If you go see him in the current production, you can also see McClure play Seymour before he is a star.

well done, r420, you're as amusing as your number

R342, it's been years since I had my first edition Sondheim and Company and it was before Pacific Overtures. I remember the anecdotes about Miller's Son was not included in the ALNM chapter but in another where they were discussing the relation of the book to the score. The definition of Miller's Son was not quoted by Sondheim himself, but by someone else who said that Sondheim felt the song summed up the show in that the characters dilly and dally and jump in the hay, but others wondered why this girl was coming out and doing this confusing song right before the curtain.

Len Cariou was quite there stud but Victoria Mallory sampled quite a bit of dick. Kurt Peterson from Follies, then Len in ALNM then eloped with Mark Lambert. This video with Mallory and Cariou doing You Must Meet My Wife, not long before Mallory died, suggested that Vicky might have been drinking virgin blood because she looks startling young. Watch Vicky cover for Len when he misses a lyric.

I had no idea who Evan Todd was before the last few threads, but I can safely say a star has been born. A cutie with a nice booty.

Now we just need to see the front to properly assess his pubic patch.

Brooks Atkinson Theatre to be renamed the Lena Horne Theatre

That's ridiculous. She's hardly a theater legend.

Any pics of Evan sucking cock?

Yes, R427. He went to Kmart before they went out of business and got the grade school special 24-pack.

R426, I gotta agree. While I love me some Lena Horne, she is not a theater legend. The Lorraine Hansberry or the Paul Robeson would make more sense, if they are trying to increase Black representation, which they are, admirably. But as is usual with commercial theater these days, none of the people in power have any sense of anything, and neither do the ones vying for the power.

Is that true? Lena Horne?! Has everyone forgotten Ethel Waters who was a true theater legend? I guess like everyone's forgotten Oscar Hammerstein.

Or Pearl Bailey!

r429, yes, the three major theatre owners agreed to each rename one of their theatres for a Black artist. The Schuberts turned the Cort into the James Earl Jones; this is the Nederlander's move. Curious to see which one Jujamcyn will rename. The St. James? The Walter Kerr? (If Atkinson doesn't get one anymore, should Kerr have one?) Hirschfeld? (August Wilson is obviously off limits, and I assume Eugene O'Neill is too.)

"The Schuberts"? Oh, dear.

r433, alas, typing too fast, too much going on at work around me. Oh well!

Regarding Karen Olivo going by "they/them" in the Times piece: Didn't she just a year ago or so go my "she/them"? It all seems rather arbitrary. Has she been suffering as a closeted non-binary for 45 years, and finally feels empowered to fully go by "they/them"?

The Lena Horne theatre?

Christ on the cross

[quote]why would Garn Stephens leave GREASE to do a non-singing role, even if it was the new Prince-Sondheim show? Would it really have been a smart career move without the song?

Do we know that Petra was intended to be a non-singing role? If it was, why hire Garn Stephens? Just because "The Miller's Son" was written late in the proceedings doesn't mean that she wasn't intended to have a song all along.

The Lena Horne Theater sounds like something you'd see in Branson

R430, The Moms Mabley Theatre

Legally Blonde at The Muny has cast a black Elle Woods. How woke AND trendy.

Ethel Waters and Robeson should be at the top of the list.

Is this Beanie?

I can’t figure out how to upload the image from deux moi. About a Broadway leading lady dropping her used tampon in a dresser’s hand without warning.

We're about to have our first black woman Supreme Court Justice. I don't think it's trendy, but thanks for playing grandpa...

[quote]Is this Beanie?

"Funny Girl" isn't Beanie's Broadway debut.

R442, Pamela Anderson?

Isn't Pamela Anderson a little long in the tooth to still be needing tampons?

Pam Anderson hasn't menstruated in about 10 years

She's 54, so r448 is overestimating by a bit, but yeah, unlikely to be her.

She's 55 next month. And I bet she lies about her age.

[quote] That's ridiculous. She's hardly a theater legend.

She's black, and we're woke.

[quote] Curious to see which one Jujamcyn will rename. The St. James? The Walter Kerr? (If Atkinson doesn't get one anymore, should Kerr have one?) Hirschfeld? (August Wilson is obviously off limits, and I assume Eugene O'Neill is too.)

I have news for you. August Wilson was Black.

I would say that Ossie Davis and Ruby Dee are much more suited to having a theater named after them than Lena Horne.

Shit, I would rename a theater after Diana Sands before Lena Horne.

R421, that was brilliant :-)

R420, what a smell of sulfur whenever you post!

R452, that's hardly news. In fact, that's exactly why I said his theater "is obviously off-limits" to be renamed.

And if Jujamcyn joined the pledge to rename a theater, only to say they already have a theater named after a Black artist so they don't need to rename another, that would be pretty shitty.

The Nederlanders hosted Len Horne's sellout one-woman show. Not only was it a hugh hit, but helped to save the dilapadated theater (Nederlander) that housed it. So it makes sense they would name a theater after her.

LENA

Sorry about that...

[quote] [R452], that's hardly news. In fact, that's exactly why I said his theater "is obviously off-limits" to be renamed. And if Jujamcyn joined the pledge to rename a theater, only to say they already have a theater named after a Black artist so they don't need to rename another, that would be pretty shitty.

From The New York Times story: "The change brings the Nederlander Organization into compliance with an agreement reached last year between Broadway leaders and the advocacy organization Black Theater United, under which all three major Broadway landlords pledged that at least one of their theaters would be named for a Black artist. Jujamcyn Theaters already had a theater named for the playwright August Wilson, and the Shubert Organization announced in March that it would rename the Cort Theater after the actor James Earl Jones."

Well that'll solve EVERYTHING!!!

R459, so they signed on to an agreement that required nothing of them? Nice scam. And yes, shitty.

It really fixes everything by naming a theatre after a star who had three Broadway credits in her career.

It’s the best way

[quote]Ugh, that Lea Michele comeback will not be stopped.

Why the Ugh. She's good for gossip and Broadway. Win-win.

Well, we know no theater will never be named after:

William Ivey Long

Harvey Weinstein

Jeremy Piven

Garth Grabinsky

and Beanie

[quote]R437 Do we know that Petra was intended to be a non-singing role? If it was, why hire Garn Stephens?

I guess the GarnGate debacle puts to rest the odd insistence that Sondheim preferred actors who could sing passably over technically accomplished singers.

The Jane Lynch

Opening production is The Killing of Sister George and Last Summer at Bluefish Cove in repertory.

As to the WIL assistant who procured young men for him, the assistant eventually and tragically committed suicide. Believe me, there's all kinds of sleazy shit attached to WIL that would make even DLers blood boil.

Tampon dropper? How about Julianne Hough in POTUS. She looks like a ditz and it’s her broadway debut.

It can't possibly be Beanie. Daddy already employs a full time tampon carrier for her.

R467 such as . . . ?

Brooks Atkinson's body is still warm .... 1984 ain't that long ago.

r442/443 Apparently this is meant to have happened at one of the shows which announced a closing date this week - so DEH, Come From Away or Tina.

It's creepy that a theater can be named after someone, then a few decades later stripped of that name in place of a more "woke" theater icon. Will the Al Hirshfeld eventually be renamed the LMM?

More Karen...

Why not the Denzel Washington? Like it or not, he's done more for Broadway grosses than Lena.

Lena '57

[quote]It's creepy that a theater can be named after someone, then a few decades later stripped of that name in place of a more "woke" theater icon. Will the Al Hirshfeld eventually be renamed the LMM?

I tend to agree. The Nederlanders should have just renamed the Nederlander Theater for Lena. That also would have showed real selflessness in replacing their own name with hers. I suppose they felt that, like the Shuberts, they wanted one theater with their name on it, but after all, there is no Jujamcyn Theater on Broadway.

Petra was never non-singing. She was always planned as singing in the finale of Act one, which turned into Weekend in the Country.

But it was not a “heavy sing” role. George Lee Andrews as Frid was supposed to have the servants number toward the end of Act Two. When Prince thought Silly People almost back to back with Clowns wasn’t working, Sondheim thought of the idea for Petra. And that’s when Garn started having trouble.

Karen Morrow isn’t too good in My Boyfriend’s Back. Clearly, movement was never her strong suit.

It's supposed to be a parody, r479.

I still hate the Nederlanders for selling the Hellinger to that fucking church.

Does anyone actually GO to that fucking church? How do they still have that theater? It’s completely ridiculous.

[quote]Does anyone actually GO to that fucking church? How do they still have that theater? It’s completely ridiculous.

I believe that's the problem -- a LOT of people apparently go to it, so they ain't gonna sell it back.

I just got tickets for Ivo van Hove’s stage adaptation of Hanya Yanagihara’s “A Little Life” at BAM in October.

R484. Every word in aghast sentence makes the Baby Jesus cry.

That not aghast. (Though I am indeed aghast.)

Lena Horne's one woman show was great but it still makes no sense naming a theater after her when there have been a number of black theater artists who are so much more deserving. But then naming theaters after critics is about as idiotic and incomprehensible as it gets. Rex Reed should be honored while he is still alive.

It's aghast it's aghast it's aghast...

[quote]Rex Reed should be honored while he is still alive

REX REED? I grew up in NY and never remember him ever reviewing theater, just movies.

R489 must be new here.

Ivo van Hove, a self-hating homosexual, is directing a play based on a book by a gay-hating heterosexual? I smell big fat flop.

r360 is right. What the fuck is going on? I'm ready. It's been fucking years. This is worse than Talk Soup

How embarrassing that when she signed on, she thought she’d be Patti’s spoiler for a Tony award, but instead her review was “A Lighthouse housekeeper from Maine who’s dentures don’t fit”

"who’s dentures don’t fit"

Oh, dear.

If Lena Horne’s run saved the theater, then it should be named after her. They’d name it after some gross old white man who sent in money to save it.

I love the idea of a theatre called The Beanie. Only it would be very confusing to have to call it The Benko four days a week.

For those who are curious but want to save their money and support neither the actor nor director...

It's too bad Lena saved that dump. She should have saved the Mark Hellinger.

A friend is at The Minutes tonight and texted to say the theater is empty. Look for their closing notice on Monday. No surprise really.

Yesterday I received an email from the Chief Operating Officer at the Entertainment Community Fund, formerly known as the Actor's Fund. This woman, Barbara Davis, felt the need to announce her pronouns at the end of the email. Seriously, what the fuck do I care about her pronouns? No donation for you, TEC!

Everyone who saw THE HISTORY BOYS is dead?

[quote]If Lena Horne’s run saved the theater, then it should be named after her.

They are naming The Brooks Atkinson Theatre, home of Suzanne Somer's "The Blonde In The Thunderbird", not the one her show ran in. That was The Nederlander, home or "RENT" that is no longer a dump but fully restored.

Speaking of...

The Suzanne Somers Theatre

I saw it in Australia, R501. It was the original cast, on its way to Broadway. Terrific night in the theatre. But I don't have any gossip.

Those Evan Todd pictures so are fucking hot, Witt the sun dripping out of his gorgeous ass. And that back—wow.

If he uses those as his Grindr pics, I hope he’s gotten cock after cock up that juicy, lickable hole

I saw "The History Boys" on Broadway. I liked it a lot.

James Corden was the fat kid.

R372,

I'm not one who brought up hunky Evan Todd in the first place, but I am the person you've chosen to quote.

I'm not looking for Evan Todd to fuck me. I have a husband for that, a former model to boot. So stop projecting your silly insecurities onto others. It's so 8th grade, first semester.

Had I not been an infant when the interview footage in the Joe Papp documentary was shot I would have participated.

[quote] I have a husband for that, a former model to boot.

If anyone is holding onto shots of other such imagery of Broadway boys, even oldies (previously seen images, not old actors), now's the time. It's DL's pre-Tony celebration.

[quote] I have a husband for that, a former model to boot.

Nice, r508, but sock models don't count.

[quote]It's so 8th grade, first semester.

You're being kind. I would say more fourth grade with a learning disability.

Suggested questions for the next thread:

Did Beanie Feldstein make Funny Girl a super-spreader event?

Is Rob McClure the 21st century Dorothy Loudon?

Hey, Dorothy Loudon had at least 2 huge Broadway hits. Not comparable to poor Rob at all.

One of the questions needs to be about Evan Todd.

[quote] I have a husband for that, a former model to boot.

Former. Meaning now obese, withered, likely hunched, and a barely a shadow of his former perceived self.

Was that Suzanne Somers show moment supposed to be Durang-esque parody? The audience must have sat stupefied.

Besides Annie, what was Dorothy Loudon’s other “huge hit”?

R519, maybe the comedy, "Noises Off". I saw that production, probably the funniest afternoon I spent in a theatre.

Noises Off, r519.

Unlike KIMBERLY AKIMBO (also from Atlantic Theatre), it looks like THE BEDWETTER will probably not be moving to Bway... at least not for a long time.

My hopes were high, based on some of the talent involved, but I think I'll skip it.

Anyone here see it?

R511, I, for one, would enjoy seeing Aaron Tveit's southern region.

The east, west, north AND the south of him.

r522, please see my review of THE BEDWETTER at r269.

IMO Green's review was kind and the even more positive reviews were insane, It was truly one of the most painful and ugly productions I've seen off-Broadway in my 50 years of theater-going. I'll be shocked if it moves forward.

Ahhh! Thank you, R269. You've confirmed my fears.

Too bad.

The Bedwetter was inane and amateurish, and I wanted to slap the crap out of that annoying little bitch. But I'm sure it's an accurate portrayal of Silverman at that age. Linda Lavin should be relieved she passed on it to do an even crappier tv show.

[quote] Linda Lavin should be relieved she passed on it to do an even crappier tv show.

I boppity bop bop dooooooed right to the bank. Suck it, Holliday!

R473, you do realize that Martin Beck's name was stripped from that theater so it could be renaimed the Al Hirshfeld.

The Uris became the Gershwin.

The Alvin became the Neil Simon.

The Billy Rose became the Nederlander.

Henry Miller became Steven Sondheim.

Only Vivian Beaumont seems to have a secure theater name---but that is because she donated a shit ton of money to get it built.

I think any theatre named after theatrical producers or theatre critics is fair game for renaming... hopefully after writers, composers, and performers.

I'm actually offended at the idea of naming a theatre after some long-dead, long-forgotten critic. Talk about a hollow gesture.

In ten years the Lena Horne will undoubtedly be renamed the Billy Porter!

The Beaumont is at Lincoln Center. Avery Fisher paid millions to have Philharmonic Hall's auditorium gutted and rebuilt because of its poor acoustics and have the Hall renamed Avery Fisher Hall in perpetuity. It's now David Geffen Hall.

I remember reading something in the Times about Alice Tully having trouble using her credit card in the neighborhood, because they all assumed she was an employee of the venue and wanted ID.

One thought for broadway. Enough with plays without stars. No one cares. Leave them in the non-profits. They're better at them anyway.

Geffen had to pay millions to Avery Fisher's heirs to get them to agree to the last name change, in addition to the half billion he pledged for the latest reconstruction.

I'm waiting for the Nell Carter Theatre.

Just watched the Matt Doyle CBS interview. oh Mary...

r529, but those were all renamed after white men, so you know r473 didn't have a problem with those. It's only when they're renamed after someone Black--I mean, "woke."

From Deadline:

[quote]Ben Platt, Molly Gordon, Noah Galvin, Amy Sedaris, Alan S. Kim, Patti Harrison, Owen Thiele, Jimmy Tatro, Ayo Edebiri, Caroline Aaron and Nathan Lee Graham will star in the musical comedy Theater Camp, marking the directorial debut of Gordon and Nick Lieberman.

[quote]The film written by Platt, Galvin, Gordon and Lieberman is inspired by their 2020 short film of the same name. It will follow the eccentric staff of a rundown theater camp in upstate New York, as they band together with the beloved founder’s bro-y son to keep the camp afloat, when she falls into a coma right before the summer session is set to begin.

This sounds absolutely dreadful. Linked is the short it's based on - I could only manage a couple of minutes of scrolling through, it's so cringey and amateurish

Doyle Awakening...

The interview r537 mentioned.

(Good to know he's intentionally playing it as someone who's not just nervous about getting married, but straight up mentally ill. It doesn't really work with the show, since Jamie becomes someone Paul should run far away from and never marry, but I suppose it's a choice.)

Maybe Rob McClure is the Irra Petina of today.

That joke was made a few threads back.

[quote] I'm actually offended at the idea of naming a theatre after some long-dead, long-forgotten critic.

The idea of history offends you?

This is nice, isn't it?

Just having some fun on Tony Friday

[quote],I, for one, would enjoy seeing Aaron Tveit's southern region.

I never miss an opportunity to visit the netherlands

r523 that's unlikely. Who are the boys who have confirmed or likely pix that have been posted? I can think of Cheyenne, the Jay Armstrong threeway video, who else?

[quote]Just having some fun on Tony Friday

When does it start?

That was cute, r547.

Re: The History Boys. Saw it on bway, great show, Corden, Russell Tovey, etc. before they were "big". But let me tell you, the sexual magnetism of Dominic Cooper on stage was something to behold. He was electric. I think I had a woody the entire time.

I didn't enjoy the first season that much, but maybe this will be better?

Jesus, why did they renew that bland thing?

Speaking of bland things, the new thread was started much too early.

R514 McClure isn't Dorothy Loudon, because Loudon finally had a hit with "Annie" and then followed up with "Noises Off" and other shows as a big star. McClure might be the male Carmen Mathews or the non-operatic Irra Petina.

I'm joking, btw. Having some fun on Tony Friday. (And I like your thread R547) ; )

[quote] McClure might be the male Carmen Mathews or the non-operatic Irra Petina.

Amazing observation that has NEVER been made before. Brava!

I'd be happy if they renamed the Walter Kerr instead of the Brooks Atkinson for Lena Horne.

R557 That might also apply to Andy Karl, but he had a bit of better luck in supporting roles, not as leading man.

A shout-out to Carmen Mathews!

r554 my silliness at r547 isn't the new gossip thread. I would never be so bold.

r550: The fun begins when you leave, just like most parties you attend.

To bring up a blast from the past, a comment on Dominic Cooper from 13 in the 4th Broadway Sex Thread back in the day:

"Dominic Cooper was a hit with the Chelsea Boys when he was living there during the run of HB."

I'm choosing to read far more into that than I probably should. (Or shouldn't I?)

Anyone have any original cast recordings of "The Yearling" which closed in like 3 performances, but Barbra Streisand recorded several fine songs from? I think that one had Carmen Matthews and Carmen Alvarez in it.

[quote] [R554] my silliness at [R547] isn't the new gossip thread. I would never be so bold.

Yes, I was teasing. It's a cute thread. : )

All I can find, r563...

NYT Tony voter poll

I found this little tidbit in the above article interesting.

[quote] Also, all voters this year were required to complete an unconscious bias training program before receiving a ballot.

What the fuck is that, exactly? Indoctrination to not vote for whitey?

Vulva Toadstool break.

R565 Thanks for that The show had a real deer on stage, too!

So will STRANGE LOOP replace PASSION as The Tony Award Winning BEST MUSICAL to close fastest? I think PASSION won in June, closed in Jan. Between COVID and the subject matter, not sure STRANGE LOOP can make it past Labor Day?

Oh deer, r569.

[quote]The show had a real deer on stage, too!

Looking like a deer in the footlights, no doubt.

Hey, has no one wished Judy Garland a Happy 100th birthday yet? She did play the Palace on Broadway! Happy Birthday, Judy!

Kimberly akimbo had a cute scrabble tile brand and now it’s a stupid rainbow

I sent her a bottle of Jean Nate, r573, and a nice blouse.

THIS DAY IN BROADWAY HISTORY: In 1982, "Torch Song Trilogy" opened at the Little Theatre.

Will Patti lose the Featured Actress Tony to the trans?

R555, I am guessing McClure will have a show stealling supporting role in about 5 or 10 years.

At McClures age, Loudon was still a few years short of Fig Leaves and Lolita. He has time.

[quote]The sexual magnetism of Dominic Cooper on stage was something to behold. He was electric.

Yes, and that seduction scene between him and the young, attractive professor was hot as hell.

There is word circulating that Patti will lose the Tony. I expect there to be a monsoon of shit backstage at Company if this comes to pass.

R578, thank you for pointing out something which should have been obvious to everyone except some idiot posters here.

r581 you say "idiot" a lot.

[QUOTE] There is word circulating that Patti will lose the Tony. I expect there to be a monsoon of shit backstage at Company if this comes to pass.

What is this even based on? How would anyone know?

R580, word circulating where?

New thread for when the time comes:

R546, thank you for sharing... is that "he who shall not be named" because there's a loon lurking about in these THEATRE GOSSIP threads?

Without naming the=at shirtless, well-built man, would I be correct to assume a Beautiful connection? If not, correct me please. I'd like to see more.

There’s always some sort of shocking win in at least one of the acting categories. Last year, I would say it was Andrew Burnap winning Best Lead Actor in a Play for “The Inheritance” which was a very welcome surprise.

If they want to shock people this year, they’ll snub Patti

r586, yes. You can compare to the photo at r204, which shows both face and (covered) ass.

I thought it was crazy that Burnap was the only nominee in the lead category from The Inheritance. All three of the leads were wonderful, and certainly deserved a nomination over Ian Barford and especially Blair Underwood.

One thought for R534: Shut up.

R549, How soon we forget!

oh right. Duh. Good D too.

I just listened to a Hollywood Reporter nominee roundtable. Jesse W says the script "fell into my lap" and he has more experience "under his belt."

[quote]R567[italic] “All voters this year were required to complete an unconscious bias training program before receiving a ballot.”[/italic] What the fuck is that, exactly? Indoctrination to not vote for whitey?

You’re saying you yourself have no racial or cultural biases? How did you ever manage that? You’re in a real position to help the rest of us.

Our country and every American could benefit from doing such training annually.

HEATHEN!

[quote] You’re saying you yourself have no racial or cultural biases? How did you ever manage that? You’re in a real position to help the rest of us.

Stupid take on this. But you already knew that. And since you asked, no, I don't have any racial or cultural biases when it comes to voting on a performance or a technical award. Silly me, I like to give it to what I think is the best.

It really is admirable you’re so clear-eyed, r597. So many people are a mystery to themselves on different levels in subconscious ways.

Why are you against less evolved people catching up with you, via trainings?

Telling, excuse me, "suggesting to" someone how to vote is wrong in any context.

You mean by society?

Tell us what the training is, R599, since you attended.

WHISTLE DOWN THE WIND!