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Matthew Broderick Mom Called Joel Grey "A Fag"

One day, Jennifer Grey was visiting Matthew Broderick's home when he wasn't there, she recalls Broderick's mother telling her, "You know your dad's a fag."

Jennifer was stunned. "Perhaps she was offended by my lack of knowing. I don't know what she was thinking. She was, um, she was a tricky personality. I don't know how else to put it. Like, she was a truth teller, truth bombs. A Cassandra. She was, like, come what may."

"She just said whatever she believed was the truth — and perhaps she was doing me a solid. Maybe she thought: Is anybody gonna say what's happening in the world?"

Today Jennifer believes her father's sexuality is his and only his. "It's really only for him. I'm so exhausted by the reductiveness with which people want to out famous people and decide what people are. Like, who cares! People should feel good. And, besides, I think that sexuality is so much more interesting than gay or straight, bi. And, you know what I think about it all the time: he said my mom was the love of his life and I believe she was."

But Jennifer says over 30 years ago, it was a tough moment. "At the time, it was, like, warfare. It was an act of aggression. Perhaps she was offended by the lack of transparency. I don't know what anybody else is thinking. All I know, all I knew at the time was that it felt like it was a sniper attack. The idea was that I was a fool and that everyone knew but me."

The moment was pivotal for Jennifer. "The reason I put that in the book, was because it was one of those days that changed me. In the sense that how could I not know everything there was to know about my dad? I was the closest to him of anyone in the world. And he would never not tell me the truth. And that was the only thing that was hard about it was because I was confused because it was one of those moments where my reality was shaken up."

She's comfortable revisiting painful moments in her past, to gain new perspective. "There's a lot of rough stuff that happens in the book that happened in my life, along with amazing privilege, along with beautiful caring, loving parents, with incredible exposure to great artists and steeped in culture. Because it's not one thing, it's this beautiful gray. It's not black and white. I love my name. Grey. I love my name because it is not black or white. I can't believe like unconsciously what my dad chose that word, that name. [He was born Joel Katz.] But because of what it means, there are so many shades between black and white. There's so much complexity in human beings. Right?"

by Anonymousreply 116October 4, 2022 2:17 AM

OMG!

Matthew Broderick’s mother was Helen Lawson?

by Anonymousreply 1April 22, 2022 5:13 PM

What a cunt. Wonder what she had to say about her son marrying SJP? Did she have objection to the possibility of centaur grandchildren?

by Anonymousreply 2April 22, 2022 5:19 PM

James Broderick's TV wife would have been even blunter.

"Jennifer, you know your Dad has sucked more dick in this town than Willy's best friend Zeke."

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by Anonymousreply 3April 22, 2022 5:35 PM

What an evil woman. Imagine saying that to someone’s daughter! I bet she suspected he’d blown her husband and was getting back at him!!

by Anonymousreply 4April 22, 2022 5:51 PM

Poor Matthew's mom was a hideous person. Delighted in embarrassing him in front of people. You could tell he was scared shitless of her. Never shed a tear when she passed. Must have been a huge burden off his shoulders, too. She was rude, nasty, arrogant, and opinionated. And yes, she hated SJP.

by Anonymousreply 5April 22, 2022 6:00 PM

"She just said whatever she believed was the truth — and perhaps she was doing me a solid. Maybe she thought: Is anybody gonna say what's happening in the world?"

Jennifer, your new nose looks like shit

There, I said it

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by Anonymousreply 6April 22, 2022 6:08 PM

Now, even more, I believe that Matthew Broderick may be a closeted gay man. With a mother like that, you can understand why he felt he needed to appear straight.

by Anonymousreply 7April 22, 2022 6:13 PM

What did she call her son if fag was taken. I’d guess pole smoker or shit stabber.

by Anonymousreply 8April 22, 2022 6:15 PM

Telling a girl her “father is a fag” is wrong on so many levels and it demonstrates the most extreme type of homophobia. This was a woman whose family worked in the arts, they would have been surrounded by gay people and speaking of them with such contempt and also trying to out a man to his daughter is disturbing.

I agree Broderick could be gay and that could have been his Mothers way of making sure he stayed closeted!

by Anonymousreply 9April 22, 2022 6:17 PM

Matthew Broderick’s mother was an absolute cunt. Calling Joel Grey a “fag” to his daughter is so outrageous and utterly contemptible. She was an absolute cunt. I wondered if other gay men sensed her disdain of gay men.

by Anonymousreply 10April 22, 2022 6:35 PM

Matthew's mother must have loved that he got his big break in Torch Song Trilogy.

by Anonymousreply 11April 22, 2022 6:48 PM

She exploded another "truth bomb" when Matthew signed up for "The Producers."

by Anonymousreply 12April 22, 2022 6:52 PM

That’s terrible but what is even more egregious is Jennifer Grey thinks her life is important enough to write an autobiography

by Anonymousreply 13April 22, 2022 6:57 PM

Ahem. I haven’t used the word fag since...

Oh, forget it. I use the word affectionately. Some of my best friends are.

Time for another martini! See ya, f.. fellas!

by Anonymousreply 14April 22, 2022 7:09 PM

I used to feel bad for James Broderick because he died so young. Now I'm happy for him that he escaped her!

by Anonymousreply 15April 22, 2022 7:21 PM

Mathew is unambiguously gay and so is Jennifer grey. Hollywood makes up these stories as smoke screens.

by Anonymousreply 16April 22, 2022 7:24 PM

It's called a memoir, r13.

by Anonymousreply 17April 22, 2022 7:24 PM

That word is so hilarious!! She was just keeping it real!

by Anonymousreply 18April 22, 2022 7:25 PM

Did Matthew's mother and SJP ever have a bitch slapping fight?

by Anonymousreply 19April 22, 2022 7:30 PM

^^Yes--it did not end well:

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by Anonymousreply 20April 22, 2022 7:34 PM

Does Sarah Jessica Parker call the press when Mathew takes the kids for a walk? Seems they get caught a lot.

by Anonymousreply 21April 22, 2022 7:34 PM

Hi, Sarah, at R5!

by Anonymousreply 22April 22, 2022 7:40 PM

R13:

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by Anonymousreply 23April 22, 2022 7:42 PM

Did she call her son a fucking murderer? Because he is.

by Anonymousreply 24April 22, 2022 7:59 PM

R7- I BELIEVE Richard Simmons is a closeted gay man 👨.

by Anonymousreply 25April 22, 2022 8:05 PM

I always get James Broderick mixed up with Tyne Daly’s gay dad. Was he also a gay? Maybe Joey Grey and James Broderick were secretly fucking and she found out.

by Anonymousreply 26April 22, 2022 8:08 PM

KEEP MY MOMMY’S NAME OUT OF YOUR GOSH DARN MOUTH (please).

by Anonymousreply 27April 22, 2022 8:11 PM

How on earth did I not know Joel Grey is Jennifer Grey's father?

I guess I assumed he was gay and never paid attention to Jennifer. Or I have dementia?

by Anonymousreply 28April 22, 2022 8:12 PM

I didn't know, either.

by Anonymousreply 29April 22, 2022 8:23 PM

Perhaps Broderick's mother was stroking Jennifer's face and hair as she delivered the line.

by Anonymousreply 30April 22, 2022 8:23 PM

[quote]How on earth did I not know Joel Grey is Jennifer Grey's father?

I know, right?

by Anonymousreply 31April 22, 2022 8:24 PM

How did she not know? I knew he was closeted professionally, but I figured he was out at home

by Anonymousreply 32April 22, 2022 8:26 PM

Jennifer should have replied, "Well your son Matthew is a son of a bitch."

by Anonymousreply 33April 22, 2022 8:29 PM

Joel Grey was in an episode of Law And Order : Criminal Intent. He played some kind of criminal that went to prison but he was rich and paranoid. He got out of the slammer and went home to his townhouse and BANGED his girlfriend/wife.

He ALMOST convinced me he was heterosexual in that episode.

by Anonymousreply 34April 22, 2022 8:34 PM

Mom is a DL icon.

by Anonymousreply 35April 22, 2022 8:37 PM

[quote]How did she not know?

Because…she existed 🤷🏻‍♂️

by Anonymousreply 36April 22, 2022 8:37 PM

I just encourage everyone to use the word y’all. It includes everyone and it makes no distinguishing words. This is become all too difficult to navigate for the typical person. Live your life to the fullest and be your authentic self y’all.

by Anonymousreply 37April 22, 2022 8:40 PM

Men usually marry their mothers, so we can deduce that SJP's personality is very similar to his mother's.

by Anonymousreply 38April 22, 2022 8:41 PM

You're spot on, R38.

by Anonymousreply 39April 22, 2022 8:43 PM

Jewish mothers lack tact and good manners!

by Anonymousreply 40April 22, 2022 8:49 PM

Joel Grey is a great actor. Years ago i heard rumours about Matthew. It was in Melbourne weirdly that he was fucking a guy. Rupert Everett also said he loved gay humour when they did a film together.

by Anonymousreply 41April 22, 2022 8:50 PM

But, r38, if a man loathes his mother, he'll marry someone completely different personality wise.

by Anonymousreply 42April 22, 2022 8:51 PM

I think R37 meant the comment for the "Do not use they/them to refer to everyone" thread.

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by Anonymousreply 43April 22, 2022 8:54 PM

r42 You'd think so, but...

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by Anonymousreply 44April 22, 2022 8:58 PM

"My dad may have taken some dick, but your son has committed double vehicular homicide."

by Anonymousreply 45April 22, 2022 8:59 PM

I got cruised hard by Joel Grey in a elevator once. It was just he and I for about 10 floors. It was probably 20 years ago. I was mid 30’s and he was whatever he was. There was no mistake. He wanted me. And I’m not saying I’m not some hot guy(I am) but make no mistake. The guy wanted cock.

by Anonymousreply 46April 22, 2022 9:03 PM

Was he slavering and drooling, r46?

by Anonymousreply 47April 22, 2022 9:11 PM

R46 Did he present hole?

by Anonymousreply 48April 22, 2022 9:14 PM

"And I’m not saying I’m not some hot guy(I am) "

You're also in your mid-50s, but I'm sure people think you're 29 🙄

by Anonymousreply 49April 22, 2022 9:14 PM

[quote]I was mid 30’s and he was whatever he was.

Oh, dear. (I was mid 30s. . .) Why do many people use the possessive apostrophe + s to pluralize a word?

[quote]It was just he and I for about 10 floors.

Oh, dear! (It was just him and me. . .) This is the real problem with pronouns, not the ones insisted on by the gender-neutral (they, ze, zir, etc.).

by Anonymousreply 50April 22, 2022 10:12 PM

R50- Shut up.

by Anonymousreply 51April 22, 2022 10:34 PM

R50: Ooh, an internet warrior! How are you going to make me, Mr. Tough Guy?

by Anonymousreply 52April 22, 2022 10:38 PM

^R52 was for R51.

by Anonymousreply 53April 22, 2022 10:38 PM

I like her style.

by Anonymousreply 54April 22, 2022 10:42 PM

MB cruised me on a Village street one night way back in 1990. I was too nervous to go up and talk, so after staring at each other for several minutes I turned and walked away. A few months later I saw him again and he gave me a big smile and salute.

by Anonymousreply 55April 22, 2022 10:47 PM

R46=Matthew

by Anonymousreply 56April 22, 2022 10:49 PM

When did she die and how?

by Anonymousreply 57April 22, 2022 10:53 PM

Joel Grey was wonderfully creepy in season five of Buffy.

by Anonymousreply 58April 22, 2022 10:53 PM

R55- That's significant, because in 1990 Matthew Broderick was good looking.

by Anonymousreply 59April 22, 2022 10:58 PM

Women are so threatened by gay men. If str8 men stop getting brainwashed by fake religions, they will start being attracted to men. Women will lose status.

Images of bussy must haunt women's dreams.

by Anonymousreply 60April 22, 2022 11:02 PM

R60 Your delusions have reached critical mass. Take your pill.

by Anonymousreply 61April 22, 2022 11:06 PM

Her son is a fag too, stupid cunt.

by Anonymousreply 62April 22, 2022 11:24 PM

For those saying Matthew Broderick is closeted or in denial about being gay

In Harvey Fierstein new biography he writes that Broderick was extremely uncomfortable and ill at ease kissing Brian Kerwin in the film "Torch Song Trilogy" - Harvey says for the rest of the day Broderick avoided Kerwin like he had the plaugue

by Anonymousreply 63April 22, 2022 11:25 PM

What did Matthew Broderick do when his cunt mother said, "You know your girfriend's a Jew horse."

by Anonymousreply 64April 22, 2022 11:26 PM

R59 Exactly. He was walking a dog and I realized who he was immediately, but floored by how great he looked in-person. I should have broken the ice by talking to the dog.

by Anonymousreply 65April 22, 2022 11:26 PM

I agree with you R64

by Anonymousreply 66April 22, 2022 11:26 PM

I mean R61

hahah

by Anonymousreply 67April 22, 2022 11:27 PM

R63, Harvey and Matthew are both Andy Cohen's guests on Watch What Happens Live on Sunday evening at 10:00 PM.

by Anonymousreply 68April 22, 2022 11:33 PM

Well, he did kill us, you know.

We bet his nasty mother just called him a "female driver."

by Anonymousreply 69April 22, 2022 11:33 PM

R68, I'm sure Andy will mention Harvey's Ginger Rogers anecdote.

by Anonymousreply 70April 22, 2022 11:34 PM

I once knew a couple of fags.

by Anonymousreply 71April 22, 2022 11:35 PM

And I once actually felt like one.

by Anonymousreply 72April 22, 2022 11:38 PM

I like her painting.

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by Anonymousreply 73April 22, 2022 11:40 PM

Whose painting is that? Grey’s? I like it, too.

Didn’t she come out as bisexual or lesbian?

Broderick’s mother sounds like a thundercunt.

by Anonymousreply 74April 22, 2022 11:48 PM

That is Patricia Broderick's painting.

by Anonymousreply 75April 22, 2022 11:50 PM

Broderick is a closet queen

by Anonymousreply 76April 22, 2022 11:50 PM

[quote] Broderick is a closet queen

Then why did he have problems kissing Brian Kerwin in the film "Torch Song Trilogy"

by Anonymousreply 77April 22, 2022 11:51 PM

R77 Because he had to hide how easy it really was for him.

by Anonymousreply 78April 22, 2022 11:53 PM

He also had a raging boner.

by Anonymousreply 79April 22, 2022 11:54 PM

[quote] Because he had to hide how easy it really was for him.

But that just brings more attention, then just being easy going about it

by Anonymousreply 80April 22, 2022 11:59 PM

R63 are you relating that example to show that Matthew Broderick is NOT closeted? Because I think it actually indicates he is.

by Anonymousreply 81April 23, 2022 12:00 AM

[quote] are you relating that example to show that Matthew Broderick is NOT closeted? Because I think it actually indicates he is.

So every guy who is uncomfortable doing a same-sex kiss is closeted?

by Anonymousreply 82April 23, 2022 12:01 AM

I think you're right, R81. You don't avoid someone you're not attracted to. You steer clear of those who tempt you because they make you feel vulnerable.

by Anonymousreply 83April 23, 2022 12:04 AM

[quote]I knew he was closeted professionally, but I figured he was out at home

Same here, R32, especially considering he was divorced in the early 80s.

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by Anonymousreply 84April 23, 2022 12:07 AM

OK so every straight actor who is uncomfortable doing a gay sex scene is closeted

Good to know - but then again this DL where every straight man is gay

by Anonymousreply 85April 23, 2022 12:08 AM

[quote]In 1986 Grey was dating Matthew Broderick, whom she'd met on the set of Ferris Bueller's Day Off, and auditioned for a movie to be called Dirty Dancing. She got cast—and so did Patrick Swayze. The pair had chemistry onscreen, just not off. "The same way Baby and Johnny were not supposed to be together, we weren't a natural match," Grey recalls. "And that created a tension which made the movie work." (I feel like if I could say anything to him now, I would say, 'I'm so sorry that I couldn't just appreciate and luxuriate in who you were.'")

[quote]That period for Grey put her right in the middle of young Hollywood. After about four years, she left Broderick (the two were engaged) and started dating Johnny Depp. "We were twinning, wearing matching leather jackets."

[quote]While Depp was on the cover of teen magazines because of 21 Jump Street, Grey just remembers him being beautiful. "Her relationship with Depp had heat, she remembers. "It was like a f---ing bonfire. But none of my friends knew who he was. We didn't watch that TV show. Madonna didn't watch 21 Jump Street!" And, quite coincidentally, Grey was, at the time, living next door to Winona Ryder (whom Depp dated after her). "She was just a kid."

[quote]At the time, Grey was close friends with Madonna.

[quote]We did Bloodhounds of Broadway together," she says of the 1989 film. The pop star threw her a 29th birthday party. "She told me she wrote 'Express Yourself' about me breaking up with Matthew," Grey remembers of the first time she heard the song. "She played it for me in her car. I was in my log cabin with Johnny and she said, 'Come into my car.' And I got in her Mercedes where she had a really good sound system and she was like, 'Listen to this song I just did. It's about you.'

[quote]When reading the song's lyrics, it makes sense. Even her character's name in Dirty Dancing may have a shout-out.

[quote]You deserve the best in life

[quote]So if the time isn't right, then move on

[quote]Second best is never enough

[quote]You'll do much better, baby, on your own

[quote]Of her past relationships, Grey says today, "What I've learned is that I demanded second best." And as for the inspiration for "Express Yourself," Grey reveals she contacted Madonna recently. "I wrote her an email where I asked, 'Did you just tell that to everyone?'"

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by Anonymousreply 86April 23, 2022 12:14 AM

why did Mom wait until she was alone with her son's girlfriend to make that batshit comment? It was made with the intent to wound, to insult.

by Anonymousreply 87April 23, 2022 12:17 AM

Jewish people be crazy like that.

by Anonymousreply 88April 23, 2022 12:22 AM

R85 Broderick,Mathew is gay. Sjp is a serial lesbian beard. Are u his publicist?

by Anonymousreply 89April 23, 2022 1:08 AM

Broderick mere didn't need to say FAG. That was the aggressive and ugly part. I believe Jennifer was at least a tee and maybe older when the mother spit out the truth. If Jennifer was 18, I think it's fair game. It's a show biz milieu. Big fucking deal. Broderick mere probably smelled that Jennifer was a lezzie and son Matthew a fudge-packer.

by Anonymousreply 90April 23, 2022 5:52 AM

"Then why did he have problems kissing Brian Kerwin in the film "Torch Song Trilogy"

Because it made him feel all tingly down there... 😛

Damn, Brian Kerwin made me all tingly down there and I didn't even kiss him

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by Anonymousreply 91April 23, 2022 7:49 AM

Broderick probably freaked out because he knew Mommy would make him sit in the corner and deny him dinner for his lustful ways.

by Anonymousreply 92April 23, 2022 2:43 PM

This is the lady in question, Patricia Broderick.

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by Anonymousreply 93April 23, 2022 6:22 PM

I'm interested to see what she says about her divorce. I was at a party with her and Clark in 2015. They were dancing and laughing all night, seemed genuinely in love.

by Anonymousreply 94April 23, 2022 7:47 PM

She had Matthew when he was cute and Clark Gregg when he was hot.

by Anonymousreply 95April 23, 2022 8:38 PM

R93- She was no lady, trust me. She was a harpy.

by Anonymousreply 96April 23, 2022 9:01 PM

Mrs Broderick knew because her son is faygola too.

by Anonymousreply 97April 23, 2022 9:34 PM

I was today years old when I found out Matthew Broderick is Jewish.

by Anonymousreply 98April 23, 2022 9:52 PM

Mathew is gay and Jewish and wondered out loud why he was so nervous on letterman.

by Anonymousreply 99April 23, 2022 11:09 PM

Mother Broderick sounds insufferable 😫

by Anonymousreply 100April 24, 2022 12:13 AM

[quote]R77: Then why did he have problems kissing Brian Kerwin in the film "Torch Song Trilogy"

Because, if you're closeted, hon, and don't want anyone even suspecting you're gay (one may or may not have even come to terms with the truth one's self), situations like that are difficult. One doesn't know how to navigate it.

Clearly Matthew Broderick still hasn't sorted any of that out. Maybe he never will.

Nathan Lane denied being gay for the longest time. He didn't come out until 1999, three years after 'The Birdcage.'

by Anonymousreply 101April 24, 2022 12:46 AM

I'm STILL not gay.

by Anonymousreply 102April 24, 2022 1:09 AM

People harp on Jennifer's nosejob but it's clear that she had her eyes done too. Mini facelift?

by Anonymousreply 103April 24, 2022 8:31 AM

[Quote] With a mother like that, you can understand why he felt he needed to appear straight.

Didn't he play the boyfriend in Torch Song Trilogy? Tom Cruise would never...

by Anonymousreply 104April 24, 2022 8:32 AM

She put Baby in a corner. :(

by Anonymousreply 105April 24, 2022 8:37 AM

Surely Broderick is a half Jew, like Brandon Flynn.

by Anonymousreply 106April 24, 2022 8:46 AM

R101-Right. Before 1999, the only people who suspected he was gay were the tricks he brought home from The Works.

by Anonymousreply 107April 24, 2022 4:13 PM

When Matthew was in The Producers out of town in Chicago, he worked his way through many of the female chorus girls. So there's that.

by Anonymousreply 108April 24, 2022 4:18 PM

There used to be an old-time cinema in Evanston, IL where in the early 80s they would play classic and art movies. One night my friends and I went to see Bergman's "The Magic Flute". Alas, there was a mix-up - the wrong movie had arrived in the mail. The manager went on stage and announced that they would be showing "Cabaret" instead. of the Magic Flute.

One elderly man stood up and harumphed "Cabaret? With Joel Grey? You mean instead of The Magic Flute, we're getting The Singing Fruit?".

I don't think Joel Grey's sexuality was a secret to anyone by the early 80s.

by Anonymousreply 109April 24, 2022 4:45 PM

Harvey Fierstein says Closeted Gay Actors would avoid being photographed with him

Because Harvey says any closeted actor appearing in a picture with him would be a dead giveaway

So since Matthew Broderick appeared in so many pictures with Harvey, he can't be closeted. That according to Harvey

by Anonymousreply 110April 24, 2022 4:57 PM

Matthew Broderick is NOT a fag, and I was the dame who could prove it!

by Anonymousreply 111April 24, 2022 4:59 PM

He annoys me so…something smarmy and false about him. Oh, the vehicular homicide…I forgot.

by Anonymousreply 112April 24, 2022 6:20 PM

R112, why do you keep bringing that up?

by Anonymousreply 113April 24, 2022 6:37 PM

I'm more interested in straight actors,if any; and how and why they went into a gay profession. Some ugly straights go into standup and then into acting.

by Anonymousreply 114April 24, 2022 7:17 PM

The way I heard it a long time ago from another source, what Matthew's hideous mother Pat said was, "So you know my son is a fag?"

Is someone aiming at a better cut "in the event of" a change in the agreement.

by Anonymousreply 115April 24, 2022 8:23 PM
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