The Gays and Tennis: Part 110 - The Sunset of Indian Wells and Beyond

Old thread which has been paywalled.

[quote] I'm so fucking sick of Nadal I could scream Ol’ balding twitchy autistic ass. Can’t stand the sight of this freak.

[quote] I'm so fucking sick of Nadal I could scream

Ol’ balding twitchy autistic ass. Can’t stand the sight of this freak.

Rafa is king. Sucks to be you r2 and r3

You're like the two old men in the balcony of sesame street. You're day is done, you're irrelevant. You're shouting in to the wind.

Osaka is pathetic.

thanks OP for the new thread

Osaka is such a fucking snowflake!!!!

She only wants to play the least amount of tournaments possible (her words) !!!!

Lazy cunt!

[quote] You're like the two old men in the balcony of sesame street.

The Muppets!

Coco turns 18 today!

Osaka is a fucking parody now. Of course she'll get lauded on Twitter for being "brave" and her snowflake fan contingent will undoubtedly label the harmless heckling as some sort of racist bullying.

Osaka's self-delusion is off the charts if she's comparing the horrible treatment meted out to Serena in 2001 with what happened to her today. She seems to be incapable of functioning as a normal adult and seems to have the mental capacity of a four-year-old.

Osaka is a narcissistic cunt. I'm glad more people are getting tired of her act.

Kwiatkowski had some harsh words to Osaka for comparing her incident with Serena's

I've always like Osaka but if someone yelling "you suck" causes you to break down that much maybe you need to see a psychologist or take a break from the sport.

[quote] People used to applaud Chris Evert's double faults in the 70's. She never let it get to her.

[quote] Naomi is a perpetual victim....she is making $$$$ off her so called misery. She does not support the sport that made her rich enough to never have to play again. So please Naomi, find something else to do. Become a therapist, open a psychiatric hospital, donate to Ukrainian relief. Don't play a sport in a public domain. Take up pickle ball at your local country club. Wanting to take the mike to scold that idiot who yelled at you proves she LOVES this. Mother Teresa's dead, go to India and help the sick and the poor there.

Link please, R12. Seems delicious.

That high-pitched, simpering voice that she has drives me insane. What the hell is her problem? She plays tennis for a living. I predict she'll never win another major. She's too much of a head case and the game isn't there anymore anyway.

R16, that is a fake voice she puts on.

R15 I read it on a spanish blog, he said it was disrespectful to Venus and Serena and what happened had nothing to do with what happened to the Willliams sisters

Thank you, R18.

Agreed. What happened to Osaka doesn't come anywhere close to the shit Serena and Venus dealt with.

[quote]After being broken in the first game of the match against Kudermetova, a woman in the stands shouted, "Naomi, you suck."

Where is the lie? Osaka sucks now.

[quote]Osaka, visibly upset, stopped play and asked the chair umpire if the fan could be kicked out. In between games shortly after, Osaka asked if she could use the umpire's microphone to address the crowd. Both requests were denied.

Who does this bitch think she is?! Shut up and play. This isn't a TED Talk.

Naomi is a mess and leaving this sport would be the best thing for her. She has plenty of money and can do whatever she wants with her life. It’s hard to feel sorry for her under these circumstances - other players have it just as rough…

The top stories on BBC were American journalist killed in Urkaine, Russia continues bombing campaign into Western Ukraine, Iran launches missiles into Iraq, Saudi Arabia executes 81 prisoners and Naomi Osaka in tears after being heckled by a fan.

Naomi is the ultimate stunt queen...she needs to go away! Messi and Neymar were booed by their home fans today for losing the Champions League game last week...she would kill herself if she was subjected to this...let's get some fucking perspective!!

Martic looks a bit like Iva Majoli

Fritz in red.

Felix in bright pink shoes.

Fritz team or Majchrzak team?

surprised that at this stage, Johnson upsets Karatsev

Dang that top half is falling apart. Hopefully the winner of Halep/Gauff goes deep.

Raducanu is out.

WTAF is Bublik wearing? His looks are somewhat 'challenging' to begin with, but he looks like he's pulled that outfit straight out the laundry basket without even looking.

I was out of the room-what was Murray yelling at the umpire for?

Some woman was standing and moving and he wanted Carlos to do more to stop her.

Kecmanovic upsets Cilic 6(7)-7 6-3 7-6(6)

Van de Zandschulp upsets FAA 7-6(4) 6(4)-7 6-3

Bublik def. Murray 7-6(9) 6-3

Harris finally gets a win 6-3 4-6 6-3 over Bagnis

Swiatek def. Tauson 6(3) 6-2 6-1

Keys def. Riske 7-6(4) 6-1

shocker! Mourataglou has his fangs in Rune too. Just heard Rune is now training at his academy

which up and coming players is he not trying to get credit for? It's nauseating at this point. He'll never be Bollettieri

Rune has such a punchable face!

Venus and Serena at the Critics Choice Awards

Bummed about Felix's loss to van de Zandschlep but Tiafoe's court attire is offering some consolation.

Berreteami or Rune team?

Does anybody care if Serena doesn't return to the tour?

very good comeback from elbow injury win for Tiafoe 6-4 6-4 over up and coming talented Nakashima. LOVED seeing Tiafoe wearing a tank and showing the guns

Berrettini sees off Rune 6-3 4-6 6-4

Dart is the random player advancing through the women's draw. She just took out Kanepi 7-6(4) 6-3 after defeating Svitolina in the previous round

Harriet Dart...sounds like Miss Marple's sidekick.

All the signage said "Cori Gauff"... not Coco. LMAO.

No one calls her that.

Team Sasha or Team Stud Paul?

Paul team.

Dimi’s look is a little…disco. Very shiny and tight.

Team Dimitrov

Team Tommy Paul

I was front row for Tommy Paul on Friday and he's even hotter and better looking in person. Looked a bit too tan but he likes to wipe his sweat with his shirt by lifting it so he kept flashing his rocking body and cum gutters at us throughout. Pure sex. I hope he dumped that trash Instawhore bitch.

I'm not the biggest Paul fan but I'll take just about anyone over abusive and entitled Zverev. Remember he's now on a year probation so he has to be mindful of everything he says and does. I just don't see with his temper how he'll maintain being a good boy for a whole year.

Who's the hot guy in the mustache in Simona's box?

Cames will be calling the next match so he will drooling over the bodies.

A. Zverev

Who is top players at Indian Wells Open?

Lots of journeymen and clay specialists, r54

America’s sweetheart Gauff gets knocked out in straight sets by Simona Harelip. Like a candle in the wind, the poor dear.

Coco GOAT!

Did Tommy dump that onlyfans girl?

We really need a special Carrie meltdown moment from Slascha Z.

R58, I don't think so

OMFG Zverev just double faulted FOUR times in 1 game!

Who are A. Zverev’s coaches/team?

good riddance abuser

why can't Paul draw Zverev every tournament? He's now 2-0. Hope Zverev goes into a big slump

Tommy Paul is so pretty. I need his dick pics.

Zverev should hire Dr. Phil as his coach.

R36 It's nothing new, i think Rune is with Moratoglou since he left Denmark to train abroad. He was one of the people downplaying the homophobic slurs saying he is just a kid

Yes, r66. Mouratoglou went out of his way to side with Rune’s mother in defending her son’s obviously homophobic and obviously indefensible slurs. According to his Wikipedia page, Holger Vitus Nødskov Rune has been training at the Mouratoglou academy since 2016.

Rune was very lucky that he did what he did at a challenger. On a tournament like Indian Wells, that type of behavious would mean losing sponsors.

To be fair he reacted way better than his mother and Moratoglou

I'm late, but I wish Osaka would stop using Venus and Serena's LEGITIMATE experiences just because she has no receipts of her own. She has always been coddled by the tennis world, even in her oh-so-horrible press conferences. She is so defeatist.

I remember when the crowd booed Venus in the 2001 Miami final against Capriati. Instead of crying, using delay tactics, and demanding to use the microphone and speak to the audience... she let her racquet do the talking, saved 8 match points and won the title.

I don't like the DL's own resident heartthrob Tommy Paul wasting his lovely dong that OnlyFans harlot. He needs to get rid of her.

[quote]He needs to get rid of her.

Let's start a petition!

he said she's his "better half"! I went saw her insta and at the very bottom, the very first few posts, she has a pic of her young self as a brunette, not bad looking actually but she has since gotten too plastic. stupid girl.

Slut. I don't get why all these hot athletes like those slutty thirsty for attention Instahoes.

clearly OnlyFans girls are his type. What's the problem? He's obviously not that classy himself.

Carlos destroys RBA, 6-2, 6-0 And Monfils and Medvedev to a third set

Not looking good for the newly crowned number 1 at 3-0, double break down in the third.

OUI! La Monf downs Medvedev!

Monfils pulls off the car upset!

I posted this in the last thread: "Would love to see Ukraine-adjacent Monfils take out tone-deaf Medvedev next round and then meet Alcaraz in the round of 16."

My favorite moment in the match was when Monfils wiped down the court to remove the broken racket detritus from yet another meltdown of another -ev with anger issues.

I wonder if in Medvedev we're seeing a Thiem 2.0. Another 1-slammer who can't keep it together after they achieve their goal. He's not really been the same player since the US Open. Less extreme than Thiem's drop off, maybe, but clearly he's feeling the pressure.

Having said that, Monfils played great today, but Med definitely fell apart in the 3rd - 3 dropped service games.

I am not a fan of Medvedev but I was thinking that he might not want to win given the circumstances around his country.

Shapo tweeting his permanent state of being?

Nadal team or Evans team?

Opelka team or Shapo team?

Sinner team or Bonzi?

Brooksby team or Tsitsy team?

Norrie team or Badilashvili team?

Kyrgios team or 👻 Ruud team?

Cokehead, Caveman, BenBon, Brooks Brothers, Nice Guy Nozzle, and RudeBoy Teams!

I certainly hated Rune's teen homophobic outbursts, but I want to believe he now understands how wrong he is. I want to believe it was a very youthful indiscretion because he's so hot. He's definitely going to be a pinup kind of guy with those looks.

If he's truly a dick, then I stand corrected and will move on to all the other hotties in the game. No shortage.

With this loss, Medvedev hands back #1 ranking to inactive unvaccinated Djokovic

Regarding Rune, I'm willing to give him another chance due to his being so young but any more hints of homophobia and I'm done.

wow the Phoenix challenger this week is loaded with guys who lost early at IW

meanwhile during the nadal/evans match.... the two yap yap yap and yap some more fops, haber and courier brought up navratilova's incredible 1983 year in regards to nadal's current no losses yet this year and novaks incredible no losses yet year a few years back....

anyway, courier 1) didn't know what martina's record was in 1983.. (it was 86-1) and 2) while he got right that martina's loss was at the french, he mixed up the loss stating it was kathy rinaldi, when any amateur tennis buff knows it was kathy horvath....

Perhaps i'm nitpicking, I just think any true tennis buff and commentator should know these facts easily....

the men are simple, after working hard in the gym and courts, they just want to come home and take it easy. They don't want to talk about aerospace with a NASA astronaut, they want to grab big tits and fuck easy pussy without working too hard in that department. They probably aren't intellectuals themselves, more brawn then brain.

Opelka dealing with a heckler during the tiebreak! He's wearing the care bear t shirt

Dude in the bear shirt has a huge hot bod

why he keep bringing that pink tote bag with him? Does he own that gallery?! He must get a cut from all that exposure.

The gallery is one of his sponsors. Opelka is into art and I think the (Belgian) owner is a tennis fan

Vika held up play for 3+ minutes because she was crying.

[quote] Perhaps i'm nitpicking, I just think any true tennis buff and commentator should know these facts easily....

Cames cares about buff tennis players and comments accordingly. He doesn’t care about facts when in the presence of the mens. Is that the case for all of us? Haha.

The fuck was that all about? Vika is fucking weird.

The weird thing about the Svitolina-Monfils relationship is that neither speaks the other's language. So they communicate in English and neither is tremendously fluent in that langauge either. Maybe they just have a lot of sex.

Rybakina is very talented.

[quote] Vika is fucking weird.

She is, um, like right to, um, you know cry when heckled because that’s mental, you know, abuse? But she, um, like doesn’t know what I, um, go through as a biracial woman, of you know, color, like, well.

All these Russians who swtiched to Kazkhstan for the $$$ have probably never been so content with their decision (Rybakina, Putinseva, Bublik).

[quote] The weird thing about the Svitolina-Monfils relationship is that neither speaks the other's language. So they communicate in English and neither is tremendously fluent in that langauge eithe

They communicate through gifts of jewelry. Rubies for love, sapphires for sadness, emeralds for a walk in the park. One might even call it…gems life.

Bye Shapootin.

6'11 woah

happy with the upset

Has anyone asked Shapovalov if he still idolizes Putin?

I saw Reilly practicing at IW. He's HUGE. I was expecting him to eat the leaves directly from the tree.

Worse acne: are you on Alcaraz team or Brooksby team?

Do I hear yelling (coaching) in Greek?

fun match so far between Tsitsipas and Brooksby

Are many in the crowd simply drunk and/or self absorbed assholes? What's up with all the heckling??...

I'd like to see Brooksby play all the top players. I think he would bother a lot of them

R110... he's the male equivalent of a female junk ball artist that because 99% of the players play the same way on every point for every match (i.e. hit the ball hard and then harder with no plan b, much less a plan c!) it bugs the shit out of them and become clueless as what to do and WHY they are losing and lose!..

What did the chair ump just say to Sitsy? Something about a 'long conversation'

[quote] Something about a 'long conversation'

"Long pisssavation with daddy."

and another upset

Tsitsipas getting cucked by the younger guys Alcaraz at the USO and now Brooksby

wow the final from October relegated to stadium 3

Norrie vs. Basilashvili

looking forward to Ruud vs. Kyrgios and Fernandez vs. Rogers

Team Leylah

Nobody has made a peep about my favorite Hellenic hottie, Maria Sakkari, clobbering Kvitova in straight sets.

I’m a male eldergay so my opinion here is bupkus, but I think she’s the hottest player, looks-wise, in the ladies’ tournament these days. With her hair down and a cute dress and a bit of makeup, she’s got to be a total smoke show given her bone structure and lithe athletic build.

She-Hulk.

hahaha -

"MODERATOR: Was there anything that surprised you in Jenson's game tonight?

STEFANOS TSITSIPAS: The amount of net cords he hit, was able to bring into the other side of the court, that's for sure. I think that's an incredible skill. And I don't know what else..."

lmfao Tsitsipas is a super bitch but that's what makes his rivalries with fellow super bitches Medvedev and Zverev fun.

holy shit Kyrgios continues to play inspired tennis. Look out world. When he wants to play he's top 5 level. Ruud was helpless tonight and didn't play badly.

the men's top half has some great matches coming up on Wednesday:

Monfils vs. Alcaraz in what will be a runner's match

Norrie vs. Brooksby both play cat and mouse and craft points

Nadal vs. Opelka Nadal always gets nervous against huge servers

Kyrgios vs. Sinner bang bang baby

i'm rooting for Norrie and Nadal

I am ensure if I will be Norrie team or Brooksby team.

Hmmm, R120, one man's fun is another man's wish to see them all in an ATP version of Kill Bill 3. I wouldn't shed a tear seeing Zverev, Medvedev, Djokovic, Kyrgios and Tsitsipas scratch each other's eyes out into the end of an ugly era.

Norrie all the way. brooksby, as per DL info, is a trumpster.

Angie Kerber — respect.

R125, um, I have, um, u know, suffered and like, been, um, u know, oppressed or like whatever, um, u know, a lot more than, um, those, um, war people.

Like um Sere,um,na and Ve,um,nus I am, like, a brave queen, um, and u know, a strong, um, women of color. Um war people in Svitolina suburbs are like, u know, totally, um, privileged white people or whatever. I have, um, suffered more.

Enough with the boring Naomi-speak, r126. It was amusing the first 3,000 times, but not any more.

I find it as amusing now as it was the first time I read it. I chuckle.

I wonder what's going on with Azarenka. She's deleted all her social media.

can confirm. I actually went to find her instagram (vichka35) the other week to see if she'd said anything about the political situation but now it's been deleted. WTA brings the drama, if not the best tennis.

I read that both Berrettini and Tommy Paul broke up. I hope they fuck each other.

Wawrinka is working with Dani V. to make a comeback in Monte Carlo next month

"The thought of Stan topping Dani V get me hot." (Misery)

God Kyrgios is a cunt. A CUNT. Hate that dude. Narcissist.

Love Ruud! So handsome. He'll be back.

Single Matteo or Up The 'arris Team?

Serbian Ketamine or Dutch SandSlut Team?

Mini-Munar or Daddy Fritz Team?

Lil Diego or Trumpy Fuckwit Team?

Horny Daddy Team Diego Cyrano Team

R94....brilliant tactic

I like Vika a lot. I'm sure its hard to be russian these days.

R138 or from Belarus like she is.

Russia:Belarus

Potato:Patato

R135:

Munar team

Minaur team

Lil’ Diego team

Young Grigor team

Tiafoe team

Dani V is not gay, right?

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Nick K. is absolute trash! no class.

Bogan chav trailer trash slack-jawed mouth-breathing shit-talking NBA wannabe

R144. he is BEYOND trash, and yet? Many in the audience think he's "entertaining"..????!!!!... Like a trump supporter, it says more about them, than trump/krygios...

While Berrettini and Paul might have dumped their girlfriends, Kyrgios has a new one who looks just like his last two girlfriends. They've been together two months and are now traveling full-time together. This will probably end badly.

most of these guys just want an attractive girl to bang and emotionally lean on while they travel around the world. Most of them aren't looking for intellectuals or skill sets beyond the bedroom

Nick K. telling the world he shat himself...

Whoever is choosing and scheduling the IW matches needs a new job. Brooksby and Norrie as the stadium 1 prime time match is about as exciting as Wonder Bread. I thought it was a no-brainer that Monfils v. Alcaraz would fill that slot regardless of Norrie being the current titleholder.

And so many more times metaphorically, R149.

Fritz vs. de Minaur shouldn't be on the biggest court but it's probably because Fritz is American. I'd much rather watch Monfils vs. Alcaraz and Sinner vs. Kyrgios

I'm not a fan of Fernandez and her cunty attitude, and Badosa reminds me too much of cunty Sharapova.

uh oh!

imagine if both Djokovic and Medvedev are banned from Wimbledon lol

Medvedev will just provide a bland 'no war' statement which can be interpreted as 'the Ukrainians should surrender'.

Ban Zverev as well, R154, and we'd be off to an excellent start.

I know this is an unpopular opinion but at some point the Russian citizens need to decide who they are. Are you war or peace? You can't keep riding the line. We're into a month now. This is why I have nothing against banishing all of them. Fight for your country the way the Ukranians are. If you choose to continue to just be afraid of this asshole no one should fell sorry for you. I don't care if you just don't wanna make waves. Then don't bitch when the world decides to shun and ban you.

R130 on her twitter she had retweeted the video of Rublev writing "no war, please" on the camera in Dubai I think she deleted her twitter now too though

War, what is it good for?

Martincova is watching Vondrousova's match, and Vondrousova posted a cuddly picture with Martincova recently with love emojis. Besties or more? I mean, I have heard the rumors about Vondrousova but Martincova doesn't ping at all.

they both have sinful arm tattoos, clearly signs of lesbianism

Badosa's boyfriend is so fucking hot. Lucky bitch.

Psycho Canuckunt with the gigantic forehead eliminated. Fantastic.

GEMSlife meets Magic Mike.

Who knew Snoop is a tennis fan...

Calling her a psycho cunt seems a tad over the top. Karla Homolka she ain’t.

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And the reason why some of these matches went so long for instance in the case of Isner, is because the player/players CAN"T return serve worth a damn and/or the serves because of racket strings and technology today are SO POWERFUL no one can break serve....

On a sidenote, Badosa's boyfriend is hot.... total male model face... add some more muscle to his already in shape physique and VOILA! smoking he would be!...

Lil' Diego put up a pretty good fight against the servebot

Why are they changing the rules just because of two matches that both involved ONE player? a ten point tiebreak at 6-6 in the final set barely differentiates them from any other WTA tournament.

So many fantastic matches over the years have ended 10-8 or 8-6 or something in the deciding set. What a shame.

I’m not seeing the similarities between Badosa and Sharapova outside of the blonde ponytail and the dangly earrings. Totally different game styles and personalities.

I don't quite get it either. Is it that they physically look similar? I can see that - the face shape, eyes? Somewhat.

R171.. i agree, besides Isner and the very rare happening, it's like matches regularly go to 10-8, 11-9, 12-10, 13-11, 14-12 and beyond....

Who was the DLer who went to Indian Wells? How was it? Who did you watch? You probably already checked in; I guess I could read the entire threads.

[quote]Who was the DLer who went to Indian Wells? How was it?

His report is in the previous thread, its R384 there

Jannik Sinner has withdrawn due to an illness, which means bogan Kyrgios advances by walkover.

Thanks, R176

WTAF Sinner pulling out and letting that classless skanky oaf waltz into the Quarters!

Sinner's arm better have fallen off. No other excuse will do, quite frankly.

Jim Courier said he saw Sinner last night playing pick-up soccer on the field near where all the players hang out. Courier said he seemed in good spirits and not sick. Did Sinner live up to his name and get into some shit last night? Booze, a violent ass pounding, Russian whores?

Not sure if I put this in the right thread.

"Osaka is upset. All the time. She can't even handle interview questions. Maybe she's too woke to be a competitive athlete. "

There may be some truth to that. She's very sensitive, and with the media obligations, exposure, and of course social media, it may all be too much for her. That's a huge part of being a top athlete. I don't think being "woke" really plays into it. I guess if "woke" means "living your truth" and leaning into your established identity - them maybe. She seems to really lean into "I'm sensitive and this is all triggering and I don't want to do it." I don't doubt she actually feels that, but maybe instead of leaning into it, try to overcome it. Get a psychologist to help you learn not to give a fuck what other people think or do. That fan outburst was obnoxious as fuck, but shouldn't cause her to come unglued.

Kyrgios probably bribed room service to bring Sinner the Botulism Special.

Wow, Kecmanovics is having a good run....he just beat Berrettini and is in the QF against Fritz

Rafa team or Chewbacca (Opelka) team?

Isner team or Young Grigor team?

Rublev team or Huber team?

Monfils team or Alcaraz team?

Norrie team or Brooksby team?

Help team or Martic team?

Svee-i-tek team or Sloth team?

[quote] Rublev team or Huber team?

Sorry. That should’ve been Hubie team.

Rafa Team (need him to stay in to slap down the arrogant Aussie skank if the shit really hits the fan);

Young Grigor Team;

Monfils Team (would love him to win the whole damn thing);

Hubie Team (my DL Hubie Hubby)

Nice Guy Norrie Team

My god, Rafa's bod. Athletic specimen.

Does Opelka have moose cock?

R187? really? about rafa's body... he looks scrawny without a shirt on, even has a layer of fat on his sides and lower back,... arms look good ONLY when in motion, not otherwise, legs the same thing...

r189 a chacun son gout, mon ami

How is it possible that Opelka is only 24 years old?! He seems to have been around forever and looks like he is 40.

I don't think he seems like he's been around forever. He only became a thing in the past few years. He does look older than his age due to the facial hair, but I wouldn't say 40.

Sinner better be shitting his brains out!

I was rooting for you! We were ALL ROOTING FOR YOU!!!

Jim Courier's comment about Sinner was so stupid. Everyone is fine until they aren't. Just because he was having a good time last night playing soccer doesn't mean he couldn't be throwing up 10 minutes later.

for the poster who asked upthread, Badosa idolized Sharapova

I wasn't rooting for Sinner. Well, maybe over Kyrgios, but I generally am ambivalent towards Sinner. No matter where he is or his health, I'm sure he's pumping his fist.

Listen, S*******a's name needs not to desecrate the threads of Datalounge. Let us never mention her again.

[quote]Isner team or Young Grigor team?

Young Grigor won!

R194.. courier is a stupid fop.... tough call though whose the biggest fop, him or haber....

HO HUM, another "next gen" folds when the going gets tough against nadal... unforced errors? check! not taking floaters out of the air for volleys after monster serves, letting the ball bounce and letting nadal back into the point? check! not getting in first serves at the most critical moments? check!... another one in Opelka...

I will say though Opelka does have a handsome face upclose if he would get rid of that caveman head of hair he has and trim up the beard...

Curious, does Indian Wells have alot of spectators from other countries? a large contingent from Spain? Just wondering since all of those Spanish Nadal fans in the audience..

both giants out in minutes of each other

I actually meant against Kyrgios r196 - not in general…

Grigor is so nice and seems like an all around nice guy. Even though he made it to No. 3 and always had Slam-winning physical talent, it never consistently gelled mentally for him to be a Slam champion.

Keys is as bad tonight as she was against Barty in the AO SF

Swiatek is playing well but Keys is just late on everything. She should be able to trouble Swiatek's serve but that's not happening

swiatek is luck again.. and she is fat as hell, her ass moves like..fuj

Baby Carlos is now killing Monfils. He's the real deal.

Monfils was doing a good job this year of keeping his focus and not trying stupid things. The wheels are falling off here. A lot of that is his opponent obviously, but you just don't give up points like that terrible overhead from the baseline.

Team Harelip or Team Svee-o-chuck for the ladies semifinal?

I for one would like to see Sakkari win all the marbles this year, but I’d be equally happy with a Halep trophy. Everyone else left in the women’s draw is kind of meh to me.

Svee-i-tek team for me.

Sakkari team.

“Kudermatova” sounds like the name of a prescription drug you’d to take to keep your body from rejecting a skin graft.

Ewwwww. Norrie has a large tattoo on the right side of his abdomen.

brooksby is hot and shoulda won!!!

Rafa is known as one of the nicest and most humanitarian of all players, besides bein # one !!!

hope he kicks that grouch Kyrgios 's ass!

R199, Rafa has fans, Spanish or otherwise, all over the world. He and Fed are far and away the two most popular players on either tour and defines must see tennis.

Just a friendly reminder.

Just back from day at Indian Wells. Saw Berrettini vs Kecmanovic, Berrettini way too many unforced errors. (and very skinny calves....) Watched Kyrgios practice, he looked like a beast, didn't interact much at all with crowd that was very close. Watched Joe Salisbury and Rajeev Ram practice for quite a while. I'm new to this so wasn't sure who they were so asked the women down the row from me and it was Joe's mom so she told me their whole history. Joe shirt off smoking hot, Rajeev tall, very thin legs, huge feet. (Looked it up, size 13). He seemed very nice from what I could see. Then I watched Isner and Dimitrov. Isner has an incredible serve but not much past that, today at least. Weird physique, I know he is tall but seemed awkward. Dimitrov was a little pocket rocket. Saw him later off court and nice looking. Then I watched Rublev and Jurkacz. They were in the small court so we were right on top of them. Rublev is so skinny/scrawny. it was interesting to see. He was a bit pissy at times and I think it was closer than a lot of people thought it would be, Finished up with Monfils and Alcaraz. Best match by far, especially first set. Monfils just sort of lost in the second but Alcaraz played great.

Very fun day, next year I will go to an earlier session but this was great.

watchin fritz play de minaur....theyr both hot and suckabe !!!!! esp fritz.

ide eat rafa's roound ass out asap.

R216 = Eva Braun.

Is brooksby the player who plays piano?

Is he on Brooksby team?

Dolgopolov on the ground in Ukraine...

R215 Thanks for the report back.- sounds like you really made the most of the day. Any goss from lovely Joe Salusbury's mom? Sounds like she's a nice lady!

Curious to know what ginger daddy Cames did after or even while he watched Sinner play soccer? Did he get aroused and try to pick someone up? Obviously not his old flame Grigor who is now 45 in gay years.

Now Dolgopolov is having to fight the Russians.

Brooksby is adorable blonde twink

Sakkari deserves to have won a second title. She's consistently giving us messy WTA drama matches in the semi finals for years now (like her matches against Andreescu, Kontaveit, Swiatek, etc.).

But I think Iga or Halep will win.

Is it just me being toxic or is there something about LaMonf that's even sexier now that he's married for some reason? Lol.

R214... R199 here, I made that comment because I wanted to know if those people waving the flag of Spain were from Spain or Americans?

I know that if this tournament was in Spain, you would not see SPanish fans waving a american flag against their own spanish player....

[quote]I'm new to this so wasn't sure who they were so asked the women down the row from me and it was Joe's mom so she told me their whole history.

Was any inquiry made as to whether he had met the right girl yet?

I agree, R225, Monfils' romantic ways put him way above the serial bimbo-izers or worse on the Tour. And he was already ridiculously sexy before going all GEMS.

I'm not seeing it with Brooksby. I know to each their own, but I just don't find him attractive in any way.

I agree, R239. He just looks like a basic, pimply-faced teenager to me.

R229, R230.. well brooksby DOES look better minus the hat.. but nothing special... the only time he would look awesome is when he is getting plowed by some handsome musclebound daddy! laugh...

his 'action face' lol

Brooksby to me is part of that bland new/new-ish crop (Sinner, Rune, Ruusuvuori, ADF, Shapo, Rublev) of slightly sinister Hitler Youth that fall somewhere between Children of the Corn and Village of the Damned.

R233 I agree with that list with the exception of Rublev who's refreshingly kooky on and off court. His doubles pairing with Karatsev has a Bert & Ernie vibe.

I agree, R234. I like Rublev a lot but on court he does look a little possessed and other-wordly sometimes. Maybe replace him in that list with Zverev, who takes sinister one step further.

R225 she often chokes in the SF but if not then definitely in the final. Last fall against Kontaveitt in the St. Petersburg final was quite pathetic

Rublev reminds me of a smaller version of a young Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth. "Reminds me" - the skin tone, hair shape, hair color, facial depth. I'm not saying they look exactly the same.

Paula Badosa's boyfriend is looking so damn hot in his black tank top...his biceps are huge and glistening in the sun. Talk about eye candy!!!

His name is Juan Betancourt and he is truly a hunk

Her boyfriend is cute. Go on, Paula.

Paula wins the 1st set 6-3 vs Kudermetova...

No doubt due to his large hands and lean long physique that Badosa's boyfriend, Juan is SURELY HUNG! BIG TIME! way to go Paula!...

Someone's thirsty...

Oh fuckety-fuck. The Aussie lout is already in Rafa's head.

GET A GRIP!

Nick has been as motivated and focused as I've seen him in years this tournament for some reason. Not sure what's changed mentally but if he keeps this up the other ATP players should be quite worried. When everything's clicking, he's immensely difficult to beat. Fun to watch too.

He won't keep it up. Nick can't click for more than a few matches in a row - and even that's rare.

If tennis were structured like MMA or boxing with one-and-done matches every few months, he might be a belt holder. Otherwise, greatness isn't looming. Your take on Kyrgios has been said for years, and repeated every time he goes through a good stretch. Then it falls a part.

That said, he LOVES the big stage and matchups against the top players - so that he's amped and focused in this match is no surprise.

Wow, R245, do you think Zverev is fun to watch too?

"Apart" not "a part."

R247 when has Kyrgios been accused of abuse? He's thrown tantrums on court yes but he hasn't done what Zverev did on or off court. Paire has thrown more tantrums than Kyrgios and doesn't get as much shit for it. Last year Paire should have been suspended from the tour

Fuck this little shit. I hope Rafa skins him.

And there we go. As soon as some thing goes against him, Kyrgios immediately defaults to nasty disrespectful dick. So 'fun' to watch, allegedly.

109 mph forehand holy shit that talent

but no you'd rather the butt picker wins

R249, that wasn't what I was alleging. I'm not a fan of Paire either. All three players are among the worst in terms of on court behavior. Kyrgios should have been defaulted from the AO doubles match for hitting the ball into the stands and beaning that kid, but of course Tiley looked the other way.

I honestly don't care who wins. I enjoy watching the matches. Consistency - from shot to shot and match to match is just as much a talent as shot making. Nick has plenty of some types of talent, but not others.

Yeah, so much talent utterly wasted.

Would rather a guy that respects his opponents and the game and can comport himself with basic decency win every time.

Cmon Nadal. Let's go Rafa.

I don't like when Kyrgios has his "episodes" either but the talent is undeniable. I wish there was a way to keep the intensity but calm the craziness

Bury him Rafa! Bury him!

I hope that Nick doesn't just quit, just lost the 0-7 the tiebreak.

He messed up again with his attitude. Why do I keep hoping he will mature.

Kyrgios implodes!

Hahaha! Kyrios buries himself!

Oh, just get off the court you fucking baby.

Just how many chokes can the other ATP guys come up with? Nadal has been gifted chokes all tournament. Korda with an epic 2 break final set choke, Evans choking the first set, Opelka choking the second set and now Kyrgios choking the first. Truly pathetic stuff that none of the guys can keep it together when things get tight.

Nadal dominated at Acapulco but at IW it's like the AO all over again. Nadal coming from behind through gifted games

He is physically talented. But he's not any more physically talented than the top guys and much of the next level below that. But he is "flashier." Tennis history is littered with physically talented players who could never put it together mentally and/or strategically. And that's what Nick has - insane physical talent. But he was the shallowest of mental tool boxes and he often (though not always) prefers flashy plays over better percentage tennis.

Vamos, Rafa!!

Ha, I wonder if the guy who runs the music is trolling Nick with "Angel in the Centerfold".

of the guys left, the only one who is not a proven headcase due to youth is Alcaraz. Norrie is mentally weak against the best of the best, we know both Rublev and Dimitrov are total headcases and there's no way Fritz or Kecmanovic will win the title.

who is the guy that always dresses like Rafa and sits watching his matches. He's gotta be a datalounger, no.

This crowd is really rowdy, glad the Chair said something.

Would love a Spaniard semi and Alcaraz getting the upset.

I will say this is 1 of Nadal's better outfits and color combos. The orange and blue work. I don't understand the losers who dress up like their favorite players. That's pathetic whether it's tennis, basketball, football etc

The crowd clapping for Nick's double faults is pretty rude. Cmon, please.

I always like Rafa's kit in recent years. He sure can't wear that orange for the French though!

Funny you should mention that, R270.

yeah he is an obsessive superfan of basketball. He was more happy playing that dumb exhibition in Boston where the Celtics play than anything

Nadal team or Kyrgios team?

Alcaraz team or Norrie team?

Team Nadal

Team Alcaraz

Por favor.

Nadal

Alcaraz

Nick implossioned in tiebreak.

Oh, Nick, you dish it out, but you can't take it.

He fucking revelled in whipping out the crowds against his opponents in Australia, but is whingeing like a baby here when it's against him. Fucking hypocrite.

I do like to watch Nick but I cannot sympathize with him getting on the chair for not stopping the crowd. He was so happy the crowd was so pro him in Australia. Before the Final the crowd was really outrageous when they played against non Australians and he lapped it up.

However, I'm not a fan of clapping for DFs, you can always claim an error was to applaud the play leading up to it but there is no defending clapping on DFs. But if he is going to pull an Osaka because the crowd is so pro Nadal, not here for that.

He did the underhanded serve. LOL

[quote] who is the guy that always dresses like Rafa and sits watching his matches. He's gotta be a datalounger, no.

It’s this guy, no?

No r282, that guy's just a full-on asshole.

Going to tiebreak again!

Nick is such a self sabotager. He is playing really well now and he getting all testy and barking at the ump. Waiting for him to go off the boil.

Contain it Nick. I don't want you to win but if you can let's go and play better don't give it to Nadal.

Broken Nadal. 3rd set

EPIC set point!

3rd set LET'S GO!!

end that Nadal win streak!

c'mon St. Nick!

Nick was getting into it with Ben Stiller. Oh he is going to make the news cycle.

Did he say "I dont tell you how to act:?

Yes.

He asked why are you talking? Are you playing? (something like that) Do you play tennis well? And been said no. He then said, I don't tell you how to act.

The next game when Rafa was serving, he said "Why are people trying to coach me.?"

And Ben said no. Not been.

Now he is yelling at the chair, and used the F word. He could lose another point yelling at the chair. The guy did try, you gotta have tougher skin and stop all the engaging with em.

As a teacher I feel for the umpire. "Why can't you control the class." Sometimes you just can't. He can't keep 10k people in line. He's just a man not a magician.

Nick can dish it out but he can’t take it. When the crowd is roaring for him and he’s winning - all good. When he’s losing he turns into a little bitch.

Nick is fucking exhausting. I can't stand people like him.

[quote] you gotta have tougher skin and stop all the engaging with em.

Like, um, why?

DAMN, Ben Stiller looks ancient!

SO how will ole Nick act AFTER the match? such a ass, beyond a ass he is, always has been, always will be, spoiled rotten....

by the way, I like that Nadal Nike shirt he is wearing, retails for 100 dollars I might add....

I"m guessing it costs a fortune to attend the entire tournament, not just the tickets themselves, but hotel, food, parking lot fees, rental car? and so on and so on.... thousands of dollars....

Kyrigos has the ability and talent to blow Nadal off the court but he's a head case. If he got a mental coach, could you imagine what he could do. That's what frustrates so many people. That's why they are "coaching" him during the match. They can't believe someone with so much talent is a basketcase and can't get it together.

Awe he dissed the kids holding their big balls out.

Hope the winner of the next one can knock out Nadal. I dont want him entering his lovely clay season undefeated.

r295, So you can win the fucking match.

Funny, that Nick wanted to play doubles with Naomi. I actually think it might help her get some fight in her. I mean it could go completely sideways as who is gonna hold it together if things go south but would be fun to watch. Naomi said she was down with it if Nick was prepared to carry her because she su--, I mean she said she isn't very good at doubles.

Hmmm. Norrie or Alcaraz. Alcaraz is playing well but is it time for Nadal to pass the torch? Maybe not. Norrie? Nope.

Rublev at the bottom maybe but I'm not rooting for a Russian in the final

Who knows what will happen, but on paper only Alcaraz can give Rafa a challenge. And only if he's mentally up for beating his idol.

Norrie is tremendous on this surface! What a player. Good for him, why not.

Krygios is officially worse than Connors and I didn't think that was possible for anyone to surpass that level of my hatred on court.

I would love to see Kyrgios and Zverev in a Celebrity Deathmatch.

White boy team or brown boy team?

Yay, Rafa 🥳🥳🥳👩🏻‍🦱👩🏻‍🦱

Norrie doesn't get enough on his shots to bother Nadal and Nadal hardly ever loses to lefties. Alcaraz would be more of a threat.

It's almost impossible not to like Alcaraz.

Agree 💯

only unfortunate thing is I see he's already developing crow's feet at such a young age.

His play tonight and the whole tournament has been great. Hopefully he ends Nadal's win streak. Nadal can only get lucky so many times but I've been saying this his whole career and he keeps getting lucky 1 more time.

That was classy.... and he certainly was lucky it did not hit the kid or anyone else.

Young Grigor Dimitrov seems like a sweetheart to me. I wanna kiss him all over. His backhand is beautiful but he has absolutely no control over it. He only makes the regular shots. He has such a great swing you would think he could hit it right. He over hits it 75% odf the time..

There was a gorgeous blond guy in Sakkari's box. He looks somewhat like actor Randy Wayne. Who is he?

With Sakkari who’s to say? My Hellenic queen probably has a mile-long line of the hottest studs just waiting in hope for the chance that she’ll choose him to come to her underworld where he can chow down on her pomegranate.

Maria is dating Konstantinos Mitsotakis, the son of the current Prime Minister of Greece.

R314 is it her coach Tom Hill? He's not quite as buff as that guy pictured, but he's one of the cutest coaches on tour.

DOES ANY SPORT have as many good looking in shape coaches as tennis??

meanwhile, Krygios didn't even LOOK to see where that racket went! ban his ass and see what this spoiled sociopath does for a living!.... did krygios apologize for anything after the match?...

like a trumpster, anyone who thinks he 's "entertaining" is fucked up in the head... in regards to connors, well, one thing krygios hasn't done that I know of his jack his racket like he was jacking off and making other lewd gestures like connors used to do back in the day...

That's a good point about the coaches. And now the top players - the ones who can afford it - have broader teams with some hot trainers, physios, etc.

I've enjoyed the absence of scowling Novaxx at Oz and now IW. Likewise the absence of the always agonizing Serena.

Apparently you missed this, R317.

R320.. i did miss that, but Connors did such antics REGULARLY while on the court not on a changeover where the entire audience would/could/did see him, so there you go....connors would regularly with the racket grip rub it up and down furiously in a jacking manner, among other behavior...

any old-timers remember the infamous 1977 u..s open match on clay against Italian Corrado Berazzuitti, where on a disputed line call on Corrado's side of the court in a close match and intense moment, connors BEFORE the umpire could get out of his chair to check the mark, ran over the other side and with his foot wiped out the ball mark and ran back on his side, like he was a funny charlie chaplin to Corrado's shock!...

JUST FOR THAT connors should have been defaulted on the spot! instead, some of the crowd thought he was funny for doing that and laughed along with Connors! shameful!...

and then later in his career in decline, Connors had the gall and audacity to tell younger players about respect???????!!!!

R321, I don’t remember that incident, but they used to replay it in segments later. He should’ve been defaulted.

[quote]did krygios apologize for anything after the match?

He posted an apology on his IG and reached out to the ball kid who almost got hit to offer him a racket

Alcaraz has really yellow teeth for such a young person! He needs crest white strips!

Connors popularized men's tennis in the true Golden era - you newbies don't have a clue. He put big bucks in the path of today's players. He was crude, gamey and a jerk - but he filled seats and big ratings. Chrissie may hate him for outing her abortion, but she turned out to be a big ole phony in many ways. You can't please everyone. There should have been a Holy Trinity, BJK, Chrissie and Jimmy. Not that any of them were 'holy'.

I will never support Nick. He is such an asshole.

There was no comparison between BJK, Evert and the execrable Connors, who desecrated the tennis landscape wherever he went. He and Nastase were just as foul as Kyrgios and Zverev are today. Borg and Vilas brought more to the game and the image of tennis back then than did Connors' Bozo antics.

R327 you are a true idiot. The 1976 WCT final btwn. Borg/Vilas was a nightmare sleeping bill. Compare the ratings for any Connors match of that era. His brash 'Get me Laver' horrified the staid country club set, but turned on baseball, football fans who had ordinarily sneer at tennis.

Oh, the memories...

I won'r wallow in epithets with you, R328. You're right, Connors brought the level down to WWE or so and sold tickets. Maybe he would have sold even more if he'd taken a dump on court, which he pretty much did metaphorically.

Team Dimi 🇧🇬 | Team Fritz 🇺🇸

In the Wimbledon centenary year, they opened with a parade of virtually all living Wimbledon men's and women's champions - except Connors, who blew them off at the last minute to practice with Nastase. When he came out for his first match the next day he was booed for about 5 minutes during the warm-up. He was actually quite shocked and said afterwards he realised he made the wrong decision.

R330... you nailed it!

As If Connors wasn't the biggest phony of all...

asshole behavior rewarded because "hey, it's entertaining and he brought in non tennis fans" ...... tennis was and would have been just fine without him.. the only crowd that TRULY liked him was the unruly new york at the open crowd, half of them who were drunk and didn't know the game!...

R333 you are totally IGNORANT of what was going on with tennis because of Connors. He was the PERFECT villain. And yet, he was relatable, because he (like BJK) was looked down on because his family didn't come from a country club. Ironically, Connors had a lot of Hollywood pals like Desi Arnaz Jr, Dean Paul Martin. McEnroe could have NEVER been the one to start the tennis boom of the 70's...he was a super talented rich kid, and a total snot brat. Mac went about Rod Laver being his 'idol' - Connors despised Laver and didn't hesitate to say so. I don't think Connors truly hated Laver, but he knew to trash talk him. His agent/manager Bill Riordan had a lot to do with creating him; once Jimbo dumped him, he started to rehabilitate himself, and then Mac showed up to displace him as US numero uno, and the tide started to turn.

Rublev is fugly. And Grigor should play with no shirt.

Connors was an asshole liked by those who liked villains and assholes, much like Kyrgios' fans today. A much more relatable and likable tennis player who didn't come from an elitist background back then was Arthur Ashe.

Rublev is not handsome, but he is quite photogenic, he looks really well in the non tennis pics. And he seems a really nice guy

hawt!

I knew Grigor was a bottom

Daddy Fritz

Miomir team or Fritz team?

Daddy Fritz Team

damn Daddy Fritz is clubbing Miomir in the 3rd

Help team or Svee-I-tek team?

Badosa team or Sakkari “She Hulk” team?

Sock/Isner deplorable team or A. Zverev/A. Golubev team?

Roger-Vaseline/Ram team or Gonzalez/Salisbury team?

I redo:

Roger-Vaseline/Gonzalez team or Ram/Salisbury team?

I wanted Vaseline to ram.

Team Iga (but I do like Halep) and Team Badosa

Team Salisbury/Ram and Team I refuse to choose bc I dislike them all… well 3 outta 4 anyway

Golubev looks somewhat like a Russian Sock.

The headband does Rublev no favours.

I love me some Daddy Fritz. I he still a horn dog?

Sakkari-Swiatek final. Sakkari was emotional, cried at winning. The crazy Pole here is going to be mad that Swiatek won though.

Let's see if Sakkari can overcome her finals choking history. Swiatek is pretty tough mentally

[quote] R314 is it her coach Tom Hill?

No. This guy was sitting two down from Tom Hill.

I guess Paula's boyfriend ain't getting any tonight!....

who wants to volunteer to relieve HIS stress?!..

[quote] who wants to volunteer to relieve HIS stress?!..

I am big on volunteer activities.

Sakkari desperately needs to add a second title to her collection. I hope she wins over Iga (who is young, already a slam champ, and will win many more). Plus I am exhausted with Swiatek's delay tactics, toilet breaks, injury time outs, weird tics, distractions within the rally, obvious coaching, etc. when the chips are down.

It's not exactly Chrissie and Martina, but at least the current top ten actually seem to be developing rivalries and playing with each other (Swiatek, Kontaveit, Badosa, Sakkari, to a lesser extent Sabalenka, Jabeur, Krejcikova).

[quote] Swiatek's delay tactics, toilet breaks, injury time outs, weird tics, distractions within the rally, obvious coaching, etc. when the chips are down

Come again?

[quote] s it her coach Tom Hill? He's not quite as buff as that guy pictured, but he's one of the cutest coaches on tour.

[quote] Oh and tom hill is hotter than badosa's bf btw

[quote] tom hill gecko looking ass

I figured out who the cute guy near Tom Hill was. It's Jayson Mathiou, an Australian physiotherapist. He's not as cute in the pic below with Tom and Maria as he was in the stands yesterday.

Jayson not as cute as in the stands.

Jayson's sunglasses hide a multitude of sins but not the sin of the spelling of his first name.

Ginge Pageboy Team or Daddy Fritz Team? (tough one!)

Gay GOAT Team or Stacked Carlos Team?

So is nutjob asshole incarnate Krygios playing next week in Miami? Any consequences for him nearly hitting that ball boy at the end of the Nadal match? I swear if that racket had hit that ball boy and I was his father? MAJOR lawsuit on assault charges!..

on a sidenote, I always thought and wished that the next major rivalry (ala chris and martina, steffi and monica) was going to be andreescu vs osaka, guess that's never happening now... Before that, I thought muguruza was going to be "IT"...

I really dislike Nick K.

Kyrgios tracked down the ballboy, met with him and gave him a racket. It is so dumb. Why do they throw away thousands in potential fines on this? Okay, you're pissed you lost but can't you take it out somewhere in private? Nadal has never smashed a racket in his career.

R363, there was no rivalry between me and Steffi. I was winning everything and dominating her until she had me stabbed. That ain't a rivalry. She was a supporting player who stole the lead by eliminating the true leading lady and superstar of tennis.

I wish I could knock that big nose bitch with one of my grunts.

Aaaaaaaaaaah eeeeeeeeeeeeh.......bitch...

I do find it bizarre that Andreescu never seems to play. I don't think that's just 'injuries'. Osaka is a mental case. I fear that they got a bunch of easy big money and then no longer have the motivation to compete.

[quote]So is nutjob asshole incarnate Krygios playing next week in Miami?

I think he received wild cards for both Indian Wells and Miami, just like Andy Murray. He didn't play that much last year so his ranking is #132

r366 She wasn't even close to as good as Graf, partially also because she was never strong and mentally fit enough to be a top player and a big representative of sports and society. Graf was the much better player, partially also because of much better work ethics. The obsession of dl with Seles and the scandal is so ridiculous and typical for this mess of the dlers.Graf was much, much better.

I am GOAT! Sole GOAT!

r367, Maybe something Naomi should do...

Sakkari and Swietak's head to head is 3 to 1.

I'm hoping Maria can get the breakthrough she deserves. Hope it will be exciting.

Not sure I can call this Rafa vs Carlos match. The King vs the heir apparent. Is Carlos ready?

R372... well carlos is playing better than rafa, has spent alot less time on court than rafa, is nearly half the age of rafa, has nothing to lose, so all points would point to carlos winning, then again, we know that rafa is a super being (all natural of course wink wink!) that despite all of this and allegedly nursing a bad foot he'll miraculously (no suspicions anyone?) be able to win, if he wins....

How's nursing home life treating you, Günter Parche/R369?

"She wasn't even close to as good as Graf, partially also because she was never strong and mentally fit enough to be a top player and a big representative of sports and society. "

She wasn't as good as Graf overall, no. She didn't have the same athleticism and despite some decent results, was never going to be a consistent championship contender on grass. She hated the bounce, hated the footing. A Wimbledon title, unless the draw opened up - sort of like how it did a little in 1994, was going to be difficult. But "wasn't even close to as good as Graf"? No. Pre-stabbing, Seles was one of the few players who could "genuinely" beat Graf. Graf didn't need to be off, there didn't need to be extenuating circumstances, no qualifers needed. Monica was incredibly mentally strong during her peak. And she did beat Graf back then - in three Slam finals. This isn't saying she's better than Graf, just that she was a great player and tangible rival. Yeah I get that the pro-Seles set can get carried away wit the "what ifs." But the pro-Graf set can oddly dismissive of Seles.

Luscious Liam Broady through to the semis in Phoenix. Btw is flirtatious Twitter bromance with Andy Murray is quite hilarious.

Is Misery still with his wife or is he back with Judy now?

Andy's mainly trying to seduce Liam by 'seductively' eating grapes these days.

Seles attended the Swiatek-Halep match last yesterday. She looked good

[quote] Ginge Pageboy Team or Daddy Fritz Team? (tough one!) Gay GOAT Team or Stacked Carlos Team?

Fritz team.

Alcaraz team.

Is it me or does fritz not look or act like the "smartest tool in the shed"?... in interviews he's almost the male osaka?!....

i have no doubt he loves sex and has to have it and/or he masturbates every day, he just "looks" the type....young dumb and full of cum...

most athletes aren't the smartest. Some of them are legit stupid and others just haven't had to use that part of their brain because they've had such success with sports

[quote] Some of them are legit stupid

Mines rapping is legit!

Is Sock doubles specialist?

"i have no doubt he loves sex and has to have it and/or he masturbates every day, he just "looks" the type....young dumb and full of cum... "

He has a 4 or 5 year old son (born 2017 when he was 19 or 20). Yeah, he's that guy. He would totally be USC frat boy if he didn't play pro tennis. That said, he usually comes across pretty good on camera. Pleasant, not really douchey or bro-ish. Don't know what he's like off camera. He's said having the kid forced him to be more mature.

He looks like Clark Kent (but not Superman).

Fritz also has that So Cal vacant quality sometimes. His mom was a Top 10 pro player.

why would you bash your racquet off your knee to the point of bleeding? also risk injuring your knee?

Rublev just did that

Is it a Russian thing? I'll never forget the infamous Youzhny Miami meltdown years ago in which he made his own forehand bleed

Daddy Fritz seems pretty chill to me, I like that. He also moves incredibly well for a tall guy.

I love his dimple. And I want to comb his hair.

"Daddy Fritz seems pretty chill to me, I like that. He also moves incredibly well for a tall guy."

He does move "pretty well" - way better than someone like Isner. This generation of tall guys is a whole different thing from the typical tall, but relatively slow tall guys of past eras. But he still doesn't move well enough to be a really good defensive player and consistently turn defense into offense. Korda and Medvedev are good examples of today's tall players who can still move great and play excellent defense if they need to.

Yeah, Fritz does seem chill.

so after bashing his knee he bashed his hands leading to cut fingers resulting in the medical timeout after the first set. Rublev is nuts

Daddy gonna break here?

Rublev is almost psychotic and yet I find him endearing.

Team Fritz | Team Rafa

Fritz wins.

I like Rublev, too, R393. I'd love to hang out with him.

But super glad for Daddy F!

I hope Fritz' ankle is not messed up for the final. That would be Nadal-like though to get an injured easy final opponent

Vamos Carlito. Take down el rey de tennis

^ la REINA, zorra!

Which of the two brown guys will win?

What do we think of Chanda's hair?

[quote]And I want to comb his hair.

Later. I'm eating my salad.

Cmon, Rafa. I wouldn't count him out, although he is playing a younger version. He has the experience and the heart.

Although since has has to eventually lose, I hope it's to Carlos. A passing of torch so to speak.

watching jim courier right now pre alcaraz/nadalmatch.... he's such a self involved fop.. i think he thinks he's a male model....

broken out the gate. Hope Rafa doesn't get trashed.

i'm getting young fearless nothing to lose tracy austin vs chris evert vibes... will alcaraz out nadal nadal?.... (course we all know evert turn the tables and got over it against austin)...

For someone with allegedly day by day foot issues, nadal sure does run like a deer without seeming any issues doesn't he?!...

shut up courier! AS if stiller and his wife paid for those great seats every day of the tournament!....

r405, the "injury" is just the excuse if gets demolished. People with real injuries try to hid it as much as possible. Would come out and say oh I'm 100, no problem at all.

damn. Alcaraz blows an early lead

Broken back. Can the youngster meet the occasion, that is the question. Can Nadal grind him to dust?

for fuck's sake

down 0-2 0-30 and now Nadal up 4-2. This is ridiculous.

perhaps only NOW nadal wants to play his best match of the tournament?...

is it something psychological with Nadal in knowing that he won't have to play Djokovic that just inspires him to keep coming back from deficits?

these other ATP boys just have no mental toughness

Nadal is really good.

Alacaraz is good and everyone expects huge things, but he's essentially unproven in the upper echelon of the game. This would help - beating Rafa at a Masters level tourney.

this match is basically the final

highly doubtful that Fritz will win the title he doesn't move well enough

I generally agree, R414. But, if he consistently serves well and also returns well thus being able to get on top in more return points, he could win. He has to be "on" and be purposeful about being aggressive on serve and return. Don't be worried about errors - which sounds ridiculous.

If anyone is wondering about that distinct sound of the ball coming off the racquet/strings vs. the more "ping" of past generations, tennis string has gone through a huge revolution in the past 15 years with the broad use of "poly" string (or poly hybrid) instead of natural gut. It's really changed the game to some degree.

R415 I think Fritz would have a better chance on a faster court. The IW court is 1 of the slowest hardcourts on tour.

OH SHIT, look who is sitting next to and laughing it up with Larry Ellison, that MONUMENTAL PIECE OF SHIT from the trump administration steve mnuchin!

Okay, then i'm done with this larry ellison now too...

It was found out that Ellison was a big Trumper a few years ago. Not sure if he's into the bigotry and lies part but he surely LOVES the policy about lowering taxes on billionaires

have to say Ferrero is aging very well. He looks the exact same as when he retired. He's kept at the gym too

good work

Second time this kid save 0-40 service game.

Alcaraz is playing Nadal like he is a righty. I'm watching his service games and except twice he served wide. He is serving the way I was taught to NOT serve to lefties.

Who da hottie next to Monica Seles? She looks fantastic but her husband is an old billionaire, so she must hook up with someone.

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[quote]Who da hottie next to Monica Seles?

I haven't been watching but the previous edition she was sitting with tournament director Tommy Haas

That's not who she is sitting with today. But she was always good friends with Tommy Haas, back in the day.

oh boy, now they have split sets. And the younger player is at an advantage now.

I don't really think he is all that. I'm a bit underwhelmed by Carlos.

Yay, Rafa 🥳🥳🥳🥳