Karen Carpenter's final interviews (thread #2)

WTF is Olivia wearing?

I feel like had Karen lived and gotten treatment, she'd have been the headliner of the next Barbara Walters Special.

Karen and Richard would be playing Branson. Or state fairs. That is the truth. She died a bit young - but they were already fucking boring.

As has been mentioned, they probably would've had a resurgence with the Adult Contemporary sound that was so big in the second half of the 80s. They probably would've needed outside producers, though, and perhaps Richard wouldn't have been too keen on that idea.

She’d only just begun, to live…

Everyone in that interview is gay.

Karen's story was a bit disturbing. She survived an accident on her husband's yacht near Catalina Island? This aired just before Natalie's tragedy. They even look alike.

Karen Carpenter looked like the prow of a ship, but nothing like the beautiful Natalie Wood.

She was so fucking ugly

Where is the link to part one, OP? What are people going to do if they’re reading this years from now?

Karen was cute, although not beautiful, when she was a normal weight. The extreme weight loss was obviously not kind to her features.

[quote] The marriage to Burris was a disaster. While Karen assumed he had his own money -- he drove flash cars -- it became apparent he was broke. He spent her money, asking for anything up to $50,000 at a time until she had nothing but investments left. He was cruel and impatient with her, calling her a "bag of bones" and telling her he would never have a child with her. Karen filed for divorce in 1981.

Karen filed for divorce within days of the interview.

She let a fine young man go.

And her pussy stank! She never washed those fat beef curtains!

Olivia's take on Rainy Days

Here's the wedding (the relationship was already over at this point).

Link to part one since OP is a dumbass.

I expected her to start singing 'Gloria'

Karen's home in Downey, CA:

They lived in a shithole

[quote]Karen's story was a bit disturbing. She survived an accident on her husband's yacht near Catalina Island? This aired just before Natalie's tragedy. They even look alike.

Well, Helen Keller, they [italic]do[/italic] look alike now, anyway.

I've always wondered if Karen was a repressed lesbian.

Karen and her BFF Olivia Newton-John, looking like a couple of dykey PE teachers.

A shame it's not a pussycat cake.

R22, of course she was. She was a lesbian who wanted children. I know it all too well because I am also a lesbian who wanted children (but never had them, as I am a rational person first - with 8 billion people in the world, and a fucked-up world at that, I thoroughly refuse). So, I know one when I see one. She was one.

She had a sweetness and a neediness, and an actual need for non-platonic, requited love; and for sex that is both tender and wild; and for true, honest commitment, all of which she probably never had. She came from abuse and horror, but she herself was good, and she tried to break out from all that bullshit, but couldn't, so she slowly killed herself.

It's really fucking sad.

Karen looked so healthy in R16. She must have just stopped eating after the wedding, as one year later she was a skeleton.

I believe she died of a broken heart. The shelved album, her failed marriage, and Agnes' mental abuse were too much for someone so fragile.

Looks like Casey Kasem at her wedding? Funny how all those weddings at that time looked alike, I sat through so many of my relatives being I was the youngest on both sides of the family.

[quote] Karen looked so healthy in [R16]. She must have just stopped eating after the wedding, as one year later she was a skeleton.

That would make sense, R26. She did not want any of that, so she took herself out.

She looked good and was very pretty at the time of her wedding. Too bad she couldn't stay that way. As the other poster said, within a year she was skin and bones again.

Karen near the end...

[quote] She had a sweetness and a neediness, and an actual need for non-platonic, requited love

Karen's streaming numbers remain very high for a 70s artist.

This song did not even hit the top 20, yet it has 5000+ Youtube comments.

Well said R25.

Anyone catch this creepy af reenactment of Karen's life played by Barbie and Ken dolls? It was, unsurprisingly, directed by Todd Haynes. The mother character especially creeps me the fuck out.

Richard sang at her wedding

R33, I've seen that film many times; it's one of my favorite experimental movies. The use of Barbie dolls seems weird, campy, and yes, even a little creepy at first, but if you really think about Karen's life, there is no better way to portray her story than with Barbie dolls. Karen was abused and manipulated by those around her in the same way that a child would manipulate a Barbie doll when playing with it. If you ever played with Barbies as a kid, you'll know that they are not very malleable. They are rather stiff, and it's not very hard to pop their arms off. They have an image of strength because they're plastic, but once you manipulate them too much, they break.

The way that Haynes destroys the Karen doll towards the end of the film as her anorexia consumes her could not be replicated with a real person. And how horrifying the doll looks towards the end is, unfortunately, not much of an exaggeration of how the real Karen ended up looking at her worst. There is an obvious irony to the use of Barbie dolls to portray Karen. The Barbie doll had been seen as an idealized image of the female body, and they used the doll to act out a story in which Karen's femininity was distorted by anorexia. You could also look at the dolls as a way of reflecting how the Carpenters were marketed by their record company as having a very clean, suburban, plastic image and how that plastic image was hiding something very sinister underneath (hence the degradation of the dolls).

Superstar was banned after Richard Carpenter found out about the film (and what it had to say about him) and successfully sued Haynes (he never got permission to use the music). Thus, the only way to watch the film is through bootlegs. Which is why the film is of such low video quality. I think that the degraded quality of the video in some ways adds to the film, as the video quality could be compared to how Karen herself degrades. I know that Richard eventually co-directed his own Karen film, but I haven't seen it.

The way the film uses music is very good. I really like how the film twists the song "Top of the World" during a montage showing ex-lax boxes and salads while also cutting to a scale (with decreasing weight each time it is shown). Karen probably had a sense of euphoria when she lost a lot of weight.

I also always admired the attention to detail that can be seen in the miniature sets and props.

I could probably write an entire essay on this film. lol

Those family acts were cute in the 70s (Donny & Marie, Kristy and Jimmy McNichol, etc.) but passe by the 80s. Richard wanted them to have a long and lucrative career but didn't realize the moment had passed. He was also very thin at that time and I think he thought it made them appear younger.

They should have just retired.

Karen was not a nice person. Anorexics are among the most manipulative and power mad of the mentally ill. She had no desire to "get better." It's a game to them.

she was not attractive at all. By the 80s music videos were in style and your image and looks were important. She was butt ugly.

Richard and Karen were lifelong sibling lovers.

Let’s see I can watch a music video with an ugly anorexic singing Muzak with words

Or

Jody Watley

Her hair had all of the features and natural stylings of out of control pubic hair.

Karen and Richard would not have been part of the MTV set, they would've been Adult Contemporary which was also huge in the 80s.

In the 80s VH1 showed adult contemporary videos. No carpenters allowed. They were more unhip than Helen Reddy in the 80s.

No way would the Carpenters have been on MTV in the 80s, they would've been marketed in the Adult Contemporary genre, which exploded as Boomers hit middle age. Bette Midler, Rod Stewart, Bruce Hornsby, Gloria Estefan were not MTV artists and they were racking up hits in the second half of the 80s. If the Carpenters had been around, they would've been in that category.

^Wow. Someone is on a tear about this low-calorie bitch and I am loving it!

R37 is right- And you can see that side come out in that brilliant interview.

LIKE I SAID! I'M FUCKING POOPED, YA CUNT!!!!!

The Carpenters were unpopular during the late 70s too.

R44 MTV and VH1 showed those artists videos.

Karen was awesome and has all time classic songs in the early and mid 70s. Not beyond that. They were unable to adapt to changing music styles and trends.

MTV didn't r48

Gloria Estefan was on MTV. ROD Stewart was on MTV. Bruce Hornsby was on MTV.

R50 is an obvious idiot.

R50 Gloria was current with her looks and style. Karen wasn’t anything style wise except an ugly skeleton

Diana Ross' "Do You Know Where You're Going To" was made for Karen, she should have made a cover.

If she hadn't died, they would have played Branson, the Indian casinos, Laughlin, NV. They wouldn't have remained "big" like they were in the early '70s, but they would have worked.

Gloria Estefan and Bruce Hornsby were VH1 artists. If MTV played them, it wasn't very often. By the late 80s MTV was in the thrall of hair metal - they played far too much of it - and all the pop stars like Michael Jackson and Madonna.

If Karen had lived, the Carpenters definitely could've had a resurgence with the Adult Contemporary sound that aging Boomers loved in the late 80s.

The Carpenters could very well have fit in with the Easy Listening/Yacht Rock type thing well enough. That could very well have been it, though, unless Karen found someone better to work with for a duet or perhaps just played the drums for someone else as a one off on an l.p. (perhaps for Christopher Cross or somebody, I dunno) in order to disturb the status quo because she could truly play the drums very well.

Fuck if I know.

One thing is for sure. Karen Carpenter was just quite something else. She's been dead for ages now and yet she still haunts some of us somehow. I highly respect your opinion R25 and totally agree with it.

Nothing beats the Karen Carpenter workout plan:

Those Pisces women are always so enigmatic & fucked up. And then it turns out they are all just fucked up but not so enigmatic. Pills, Liquor, Mens, Ex-lax. Delusion. Pisces is the sign of magic and mystery - uncontrollable charm and appeal. In youth. Constant illness and addiction. Heartbreak Sequelae with age. Liza, Liz, Karen, Drew Barrymore, Sharon Stone.

Regardless, Happy Birthday Karen.

Richard is plunging his dick into a cake with your face on it. Like he always does on March 2. Then a re-release of Rainy Days and Mondays with some Asian girl who sounds almost like you.

R58 How do you fit Marian Anderson, Joanne Woodward and the very sober Chelsea Clinton into that reasoning?

March 2nd is her birthday. She would have been 72.

No they would t have fit in. Compare their 1981 sound to ANY other AC artist in 1981. Carpenters sound old hat and stuck in 1972.

They were non visual artists. Best heard and not seen circa 1970.

They would've updated their sound, as all artists do.

Where were all her friends (like ONJ and Miss Warwick) when she was starving herself to death?

They tried to help but if you've ever dealt with an anorexic you know they're impossible. Also, people have their own lives to live and own careers to attend to. There's only so much time.

R65 as someone who's friend went through the same thing, though thankfully it never got quite as bad as with Karen, it's 100% true. Short of tying her down and force feeding her, there's not much any friend could do. As with any substance or alcohol abuse issue, the one with the problem needs to take the initiative. What's said is in the end it did seem that Karen knew she was sick and wanted to get better but it was too late. Too many years of starving and fucking with her body did her in.

[quote]Short of tying her down and force feeding her, there's not much any friend could do.

Actually, that more or less happened when she was hospitalized and it still didn't do any good.

I think Miss Warwick did try to help by trying to share her reefer and inducing the munchies. But Karen was too square for that.

The Carpenters put out their sixth million selling album "Horizon" in 1975. Unfortunately, they followed it up with a real schmaltzy LP, with terrible single releases. Their next album "Passage" was great and (for them) experimental. Great singles, too, but by then it was too late....music tastes had changed. They never had another top 20 hit again, except for "Touch Me When We're Dancing" in 1981.

R67 thats something family can do......not friends

I find it disturbing seeing her with anorexia during her last couple of years. She looked awful. While anorexia was not much recognized in the general public as a disease/illness in the early 80s, surely those close to her recognized she looked extremely unhealthy and very nutrition deficient. Apparently she was under a physician's care, but her family and friends didn't seem highly alarmed about her condition. She was hiding anorexia habits, including the substances she bought for forced regurgitation. She needed a psychiatrist experienced in treating her disorder.

She was destined to die

Anorexia Nervosa really came into the American consciousness with the TV movie The Best Little Girl in the World, which was broadcast in May of 1981. It came at the peak of own illness that began on my birthday at the end of February that year when I turned 16 and weighed 165 pounds and swore I would never be fat again and stopped eating, stopped sleeping and was excessively exercising. By September I was hovering around 105 pounds and felt if only I could get below 100 pounds I would never have to worry about my weight again.

I used the book, movie and all the articles that were being written about it in magazines and newspapers at that time, which I accessed through my school library, as a “handbook” how to be the best Anorexic anyone could ever be. It played perfectly into my perfectionist personality.

Jodie Foster was supposed to play the role, but after stress eating at Yale due to the Presidential assassination attempt, Jennifer Jason Leigh got the part, becoming Anorexic during the filming herself. Karen’s death really resulted in a second wave of media coverage about it, making the early 80s awash in it for the start of the decade.

Here is Miss Warwick introducing Miss Richard on "A Solid Gold Christmas".

Interview with Richard and the parents after Karen's death.

Agnes was such a cold hearted bitch!

Agnes didn't love Karen at all. It's like she resented Karen's very existence because it took the spotlight off of Richard as if Richard would have had anything like the success he enjoyed without Karen's voice.

We really need to hear Agnes's side of the story.

[quote]We really need to hear Agnes's side of the story.

She was too fat, and she wasn't Richard. She should have stuck to playing drums in Richard's back up band.

That's really it.

I told her she should stay in the background, and you can only stay in the background if you are THIN.

Karen and Richard on the Dating Game.

Where did Karen and Richard go on their first date?

Agnes coldly remembers Karen's last day:

r81 was that not major cringe or was it me? Karen was obviously not having that much fun and the guys were all uggos and weird.

Also Karen was already really thin in 1970...when was she supposed to have been chubby?

Here is Karen at a healthier weight. I remember reading somewhere that she was very bothered by the size of her hips. The outfit she is wearing in this video doesn't help her at all.

r86 Richard later revealed in an interview that her hips were the source of her insecurities.

She looks perfectly fine in R85...she was never meant to be a model or a sex symbol type singer so who cares if she wasn't stick thin?

Celine is skinny AND a much better singer. Still ALIVE! Still singing. Still not eating. Karen was weak.

Karen has all the appeal of a celery stick.

They really ought to get Anya Taylor Joy to play her in the biopic. She strongly resembles Karen, and not just because she's stick-thin.

This thread is boring

To the above poster r55 Gloria Estefan and Rod Stewart especially were always on MTV back in the 80's

Estefan and Stewart were VH1

In the early to mid 80's Stewart videos were on MTV constantly.

And after Gloria Estefan had her bus accident in 1990 MTV was playing her too

Rod Stewarts switch to AC was not played on MTV in the later 80s. Gloria Estefan was never on MTV much at all.

I remember MTV being obsessed with hair metal in the late 80s. They played far too much of it. That garbage music didn't deserve to be that popular.

[quote] Rod Stewarts switch to AC was not played on MTV in the later 80s.

His MTV Unplugged was huge, early 90s.

Even if Richard and Karen didn't do much in the 80s, the 70s nostalgia of the 1990s would have been great for them. They'd have gotten a couple of albums and tours out of it at the least.

I’ve never understood the weird adoration for her or The Carpenters. It’s boring Muzak at best. The one thing I will give her is that she sounded the same live as she did on recording, a major achievement in the current recording world.

^ That's because she mostly lip synced "live." Yes, even when they still did concerts. Almost always after they became famous. Richard was a control freak about the dark basement tones of her voice. And though she had near perfect intonation and could sing as well live - she couldn't reproduce the multi-tracked vocal depth of ALL their recordings. Karen was a mic singer - with the mic very close to her mouth. Because she had little power or fullness to her vocal production. Her tone was rich. But she was not a powerful singer. She lip synced all their TV specials and most of their concerts.

Richard seems proud of this. He's still nutty after all these years. Karen was a gorgeous impeccable STUDIO singer. This is her single one take lead vocal for a song never produced. The lead vocal is never meant to be the final product. It's just for instrumentation and arrangement purposes. Then when that's done - Karen would record a more perfect vocal. She never lived to record this actual song. Richard sweetened it up in his ASS.

The fucking 'ancient white fags' troll really has a hate-on for Karen Carpenter. No, Karen did not lip synch in concert, at least not on a regular basis. They went to painstaking lengths to recreate exactly how they sounded on the record when they performed in concert. This has all been documented in many sources.

Lip synching on variety shows in the 70s was standard practice. Also, American Bandstand and Soul Train always had the artists lip sync. That was just a normal part of shows that had musical numbers in those days.

r101 just pulls shit out of his all like it's the fucking Holy Gospel. He doesn't know fuck all.

[quote]And though she had near perfect intonation and could sing as well live - she couldn't reproduce the multi-tracked vocal depth of ALL their recordings.

She didn't do the multi-track singing in concert, if you've ever bothered to watch actual concert footage that was live on stage and not part of a variety show. Fucking moron.

How old are you, R100. If you weren't there, of course the appeal wouldn't make sense. Their type of music and the way they dressed was considered kind of chic in certain strata. When President Nixon would entertain at The White House it was The Carpenters and their type of easy listening that would be the musical entertainment.

She was never ever beautiful. Never ever.

Nope, Karen made barely it to cute when she was young and healthy. That's why she should have married a hot trophy husband and been content to be the breadwinner. Rich, successful, barely cute men do that all the time.

She was married emotionally and professionally to Richard

She was married to the toilet bowl.

Why didn’t Richard die from the effects of anorexia, too? And why doesn’t spellcheck help you out when you start typing difficult words? Richard looked as unhealthy as Karen. I remember seeing a picture of him in a swimsuit and he looked haggard, drawn and sickly.

Richard wasn't anorexic. He was a pillhead.

R110. I always thought he was on more than Quaaludes. I mean, really? Quaaludes brought him to rehab?! Of all things.

I'm linking to the Carpenters live. There is no lip synching here and Karen Carpenter is really playing the drums, I play the drums and can tell that it is all her with her heavy Buddy Rich influence.

I love and will miss Karen forever. Beautiful voice.

Within her comfortable one octave range, she had some golden tones.

Karen was no Anne Murray.

A great LIVE performance from the Carpenters, getting late in their game. Karen's voice is still flawless and bright and full of rich dynamic tones. She DIDN'T have a big range but she colored each not and phrase with a lot skill and variety. No pressure in her singing - long steady notes, beautiful intonation. Her smooth lines of legato phrasing without belting are really impressive. There's just enough wobble in this performance to prove her human. Good work.

Richard looks very thin in this 1976 concert:

Richard was addicted to pills, must've been why HE was so thin.

Someone upthread pegged Karen as a Nixon girl. So true. The Carpenters were presented as an antidote to all those “awful” problematic Sixties stars like Jimi, Janis, and Jim Morrison. Once the counter-culture was neutralized the Carpenters were just another cornball act like Captain and Tenielle or Tony Orlando. They really had no future except maybe in Branson or second rate Vegas clubs.

Exactly R119. The real little girl blue was also singing in 1970. Rogers and Hart no less.

[quote] They really had no future except maybe in Branson or second rate Vegas clubs.

Then how do you explain the streaming numbers for these 50 year old songs? Younger generations are finding comfort in these old clips, as unhip as they seemed. I don't see Gen Z listening to many Doors or Joan Baez songs.

Richard and Karen were exceptional at times. A.prime example is They long to be Close to You. They were in their element inside the recording studio.

Merry Christmas, Darling is one of my all-time fave holiday songs

Don’t know. But this is the same generation that swooned over Dear Evan Hansen and has made MCU such a cultural juggernaut.

[quote]They really had no future except maybe in Branson or second rate Vegas clubs.

Bullshit. The Carpenters had a big revival in the 90s with Gen Xers, who truly appreciated how good they really were. I definitely think if Karen had lived the Carpenters would've had a successful second act.

But she didn't live and has been dead for 39 years. So that's that.

Karen had no personality or glamour. A lovely voice but a very bland singer. She needed more than those old hits to have a comeback in the 90s.

Branson would have been home to the Carpenters. A PBS special, with fundraising breaks.

RIP Karen. You left a corpse. And then you died.

[quote]She needed more than those old hits to have a comeback in the 90s.

Like they wouldn't have made new music 🙄

^ You're a fucking moron R126. Carpenters would have made new music, duh - but they could never transcend their soulless tapioca tastes and zombie personalities.

Listen to Karen's recording of Don't Cry For Me Argentina when you need a 6 minute nap.

[quote] Karen had no personality or glamour.

Here's the "personality and glamour" of the AWF troll's idol. Many prefer Karen's timeless style.

[quote]but they could never transcend their soulless tapioca tastes and zombie personalities.

They would've moved with the times, like all of their contemporaries did. Linda Ronstadt was doing adult contemporary in the late 80s and had some hits. People change their sound as time goes on. God, you're a moron.

WoW. So you're a RACIST as well as being a 80 year old f@g with bad taste in music? R128 is a sad old gay granny. What a surprise. Crack is whack - how original? R128.

Whitney and at least 80 other female recording artists were more important vocalists than Karen Carpenter.

^^Muriel needs to exterminate this cockroach

The truth should hurt you R131. You post old man nonsense. OLD drunk U are.

You are always stocking other posters and spreading racist hate on this site. We see your other posts.

GTFU

^^get some help you sad, sorry person

The sadness lives in you, R133. Alongside your cheap opinions and poisonous spirit.

May jesus visit healing to your troubled mind and body - this night. 🙏🏾🙏🏾

Janis Joplin was something beautiful. Thanks R120.

May Muriel finally fumigate r134 and all his aliases from DL. Or at least red tag him.

r135 and r120 are the same ancient white fags troll, talking to himself again. MartaLira is one of his sockpuppets.

[quote]Super Bowl LVI halftime performers this Sunday [quote] Just fucking kill yourself [R309]. You are useless.

[quote]R310 is reported. There will be full thread on this action soon.

Hmmm......the above quotes were from another thread awhile ago and still no action and still no "full thread" MartaLira/Ancient White Fags Troll is full of empty threats!

Datalounge is well aware of your situation R138. You are living in a nursing home, wearing a diaper and often tied down R138. Some night nurse gives you access to multiple computers R138. Everyone there and here expects you to die soon. No further action is required. Or possible. You're a sad old white racist f@g. A dying breed.

I'm actually enjoying the view of Midtown right now r139. In an apartment you would never, ever be able to afford.

Sock pappy is what they call you at the home?

Well! This thread was coming along so nicely, too …

Speaking of Linda Ronstadt, Karen would've been good for Somewhere Out There. Maybe they would've offered it to her instead.

Apparently, Karen was offered the role of Mattie in True Grit (John Wayne requested her) but the role, of course, went to Kim Darby. I wonder what roles Karen would've been good at if she had pursued an acting career during the 70's (and 80's had she lived)

Karen couldn't act her way out of a barf bag. She might have played a horse at one time.

Can you imagine Agnes's reaction if Karen had become a movie star too? She'd have assassinated her daughter herself.

R144 she wasn’t attractive. Not camera ready.

[quote] Everyone there and here expects you to die soon. No further action is required. Or possible. You're a sad old white racist f@g. A dying breed.

What kind of sociopath gets triggered by Karen Carpenter, of all people? Scary and disturbing.

I told you motherfuckers that I was jus POOPED!!!

Just POOPED!

SHIT!!!!

My legs just snapped in half and I am now 4 feet tall.

r148 that troll is psycho

R150 IS the troll. Has hundreds of posts on the two Karen Carpenter threads and even more on John Mulvaney threads. He hates blacks and Jews......wonder who it could be?

R151 Already had him/her blocked.

Op that pic is gross. Her hair looks like pubic hair. Ugly thing.

I wonder why Karen didn't wear a wig during that time?

Most chronic anorexics lose their hair and eventually their heart stops. That's the sequelae of that condition. Her brillo hair was the least of her worries. But of course she wouldn't see herself normally.

Anorexia is a mental illness. Karen was nuts before she was pooped. She couldn't even connect the two.

Move your food around your plate Anna Mae.

R155 Yes, that's the issue that in part, makes anorexia so difficult to treat. Everyone with anorexia looks at themselves in the mirror and sees a distorted image of their bodies--so they still look fat to themselves even when their ribs stick out. Experts don't really know for sure if it's a delusion that the body appears larger than it is or a perceptual issue in the parietal lobes of the brain, but suspect it's the latter--that their brains actually have distorted perception. Either way, the distorted body image is why it is so hard to treat and so easy for anorexics to relapse.

Karen always saw herself as fat. That said, I thought she was recovering when she died and her heart just didn't have anything left after years of starvation and ipecac? Or was she still using syrup of ipecac to vomit just before her death?

If someone wanted Karen killed, her anorexia provided the perfect cover story.

R157 Agnes! I thought you were going to take that to your grave!

why did her hair look like pubes?

^ Richard mistook her head on a stick for an exfoliater.

R159 I think it was explained earlier, nutritional deficiency ravage the hair of anorexics and many experience it falling out in clumps. It’s beyond something like just conditioning it. Also, when thin enough, the body beings to sprout a coarse hair all over the body in an attempt for it to keep itself warm since it no longer has the body fat to do that.

r161 are you shitting me?!!

R162 I’m assuming you mean the second part, which is called lanugo, scroll down to the malnutrition part. It’s interesting how sometimes the body fights to survive despite all attempts a person tries to kill itself.

She had pubic hair on her head. And she was ugly.

Karen and a friend (Olivia?) with Agnes cunting in the background.

Did agnes object to Karen eating out Livvie’s snatch?

Karen is a Republican’s version of Billie Holiday.

[quote] Did agnes object to Karen eating out Livvie’s snatch?

Agnes forced Karen into a loveless, abusive marriage, so, yes.

R168 So basically Karen went from out of the frying pan an into the fire.

Was Olivia singing Physical with Karen in mind???

No r170. She had a young, hot, dude named Matt Lattanzi on her mind while recording Physical. NOT an anorexic Carpenter.

You'd be surprised, R171.

Ah, I think Karen and Olivia were snatch eaters.

Nah I don’t think so

It's hard to imagine Karen grazing her canines through the kinky netherhairs of Olivia's golden clam.

Or imagine Olivia NJ delicately nibbling the peach-colored gumdrop nipple on Karen's emaciated left breast.

Pussy had too many calories for Karen. She never ate it.

Olivia masturbated with a hard brillo pad after Karen died. It felt like Karen was still there between her legs!

Karen with her pubic hairstyle

Ugly stick figure

This is kind of cool being able to hear the purity of her voice in the isolated vocals.

Meh.

R177 I think that was her brother Richard NOT Olivia Newton-John. She was full with Matt. She didn’t want an anorexic has been.

ONJ is fighting lesbian rumors in the media to this day. Let it go, hon. So what if you like the pussy? Jesus.

Anyway, this Latanzi character pings to high heaven. Always has pinged. Reminds me of how Lee Majors used to ping (and still does).

Is the lipstick lesbian a 85 year old gay man? Cuz nobody knows those people. I had to google. Lee Majors is over 90 years old.

Karen had a lovely (close to contralto) voice and near always perfect pitch. She gave a sense of meaning to songs by the nature or her tone and downbeat phrasing. Yet both the music and her singing lacked importance. Many people love the SOUND of her voice, but I doubt she understood the words.

MartaLira is one of the "ancient white fags" troll's sockpuppet accounts. And as usual, his addled mind is spouting useless opinions. Fuck off, dear.

I think this is a pretty and melancholy song.

I HOLLERED at R184.

The unintended consequence of all this is now my hormones are all messed up and I'm melting over the idea of Farrah Fawcett (who was an even more repressed pussy-lover than ONJ. Confused little Farrah... God bless her).

If Olivia ate pussy why stoop way way way way down to Karen who was VERY SICK and let’s just say “not pretty or attractive” at all? Did Olivia like her voice and ate her because of that??? I think not!

The heart / pussy wants what the heart / pussy wants, R188.

I don’t know about Karen but all these comments about pussy eating have put ME off lunch!

Karen had a nice voice. I do not care about her sex life. She was very sick. She wasn’t attractive in my opinion but to each their own. She deserves her fan base and place in music history and has merit

R190, skipping a meal = true to form

MEOW!

Did ONJ eat the clitty litter?

R185 was 32 years old when Carpenters realeased their first collegiate glee club record into this world. 52 years ago. God Bless him. RIP.

My parents say that OLD gay men are so mean because they grew up teased and then spent the rest of their life fucking dead guys.

I think it's true.

^^batshit insane

The truth hurts you R196? The song remembers when. You're a very sad old WHITE man on this site. You ARE mentally ill. But you're also DESPISED.

^^^🤪

We've got a real nutter here

R197 I already had r196 blocked for some reason….. hmmmm…

I was listening to Madonna’s “This Used To Be My Playground” this morning, and thought it would have been the perfect song for Karen.

Madonna has spoken about her love for Karen Carpenter.

I’m not doubting Madonna’s love for Karen, but does anyone have any links? I would just be interested in reading what she said.

Pubic head Karen

R200 , if you were going to have Karen do a Madonna song, it would be "Crazy For You", since it was written by John Bettis, who co-wrote many of the Carpenters songs (Goodbye To Love, Top Of The World, Only Yesterday) with Richard.

Madonna, as selfish as she is - has often said that Karen Carpenter was one of her favorite singers. Probably not their music, but who knows? Madonna grew up trash and the Carpenters were all over radio when she was a kid.

Madonna has that warm golden tone center to her vocal production. Her best notes are in her lower register too. BUT, Madonna is a far more versatile singer and has more rythm, adventure, rock n roll and way more guts than Karen fucking Carpenter.

Karen Carpenter couldn't sing Crazy For You. It's way too high for her voice and requires some vocal passion that she never showed.

Where Do We Go From Here, This Used To Be My Playground and most especially Live To Tell would be ideal for both her voice and vocal style.

Stop fantasizing about a dead ugly

This is the voice I fantasize about when I think of You Must Love Me. So beautiful.

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They might erect a statue of them in Downey.

What if the food shortages are real? Karen never documented how she thrived on so few calories.

I love the Carpenters and these final days Karen threads make me laugh out loud, especially the Agnes responses. Threads like this are the reason I love DL.

R211 The Nazis did extensive research during WWII about restrictive diets and benefits, mainly life extension ironically, I’m sure you can hunt it up somewhere.

Enough about Karen Where is Richards' thread? He was the genius of the family and was not gay!

Ancient White Fags Troll and his sock puppets are all over this thread.

^ R215 posts from many different accounts. A very sick OLD man. HE is the Ancient White RACIST F@G!!!

I heard "All You Get From Love Is A Love Song" in Costco (don't judge) the other day, which I hadn't heard in a long time, and the tone and clarity of her voice was marvelous.

Karen meets Zsa Zsa!

I'm fucking POOPED- MOTHERFUCKERS!

What the CUNT is Slimmers Disease!

I'm just POOPED!

Get fucked!

Did Zsa Zsa slap Karen for being so thin?

Karen farted a big one at Zsa Zsa.

Karen called Zsa Zsa a fat whore!

Karen was so fat when she died.

Moment by Moment.

Jesus, she was super fat. What a whale.

[Quote] Here is Karen at a healthier weight. I remember reading somewhere that she was very bothered by the size of her hips.

Petula Clark was also bothered by the size of Karen's hips, and when she said as much in a documentary, I burt out laughing. It was so unexpected.

*burst

It was this sleeve that started the descent.

Another final interview.

There were and still are dark rumors about Karen and Richard’s relationship.

At the very least, he had a psychological hold on Karen.

Also, this video is pretty dorky but Karen and Ben Vereen sounded great together.

Interesting analysis.

Livvie Newton-John is reunited with Karen in heaven.

For my own gratification, I am photoshopping a cheeseburger in place of Karen Carpenter’s microphone.

Karen and Olivia can now bump pussies for all eternity...

Nothing personal to anorexics, but they always seem so desperate for attention.

love her speaking voice......

Karen looks fit and healthy in that R230 clip (January 1978).

1978/79 there was still a chance to save her.

Here she is singing "The Old Fashioned Way" with John Davidson.

They performed at the White House during the Nixon era. He called them "“Young America at it's very best.” Yeah, right! A drug addict and an anorexic. Some "Young America!"

R240... at the time I believe neither one was yet anorexic or addicted to quaaludes....

[quote] at the time I believe neither one was yet anorexic or addicted to quaaludes....

So what? This "young America at its best" ironically turned out to be two majorly fucked up mental cases. Wrong again, Nixon!

That John Davidson always struck me as a gay.

Ugly skeleton

I think Olivia knew all of the shit that went on between Karen and her family. She was pissed when Richard complained about Karen's stealing the Carpenters sound for her album. "You are the sound!" she told Karen. And if you see clips of the funeral service, she's practically the first one out the door, rushing to her car, visibly upset. There's no footage of her talking with Richard or anyone else, like Dionne or Herb Alpert.

But to Richard's credit, he did post a nice tribute to Olivia when she passed away.

Nobody cares about how fucking weird ass Richard reacted to Olivia dying.

Olivia is reunited with her dear Karen.

The most touching tribute to Karen was from Petula Clark, who sang "For All We Know" in a concert a day or two after Karen's death. When that song won the Oscar, Clark had sung it at the ceremony.

R248... agree, it was so heartfelt, sad moving and beautiful that I always ALWAYS tear up when I hear Petula sing it.. Frankly, I don't know how she got thru it, but I guess it's called being a pro....

Thanks to whomever keeps bumping this months old thread. It's a nice break from all the political, Markle and/or disease threads.

The 1978 ABC promo for R239.

A Carpenters special followed an Olivia special. Must see programming for any gays born in the 1970s.

Kareena Carpenter was not pretty like Olivia Neutron Bomb. And Olivia was a nice sweet funny person too. They shared a lot of reality avoidance in their lives. But Olivia was not actively self destructive.

Kareena was kind of bitchy and sarcastic - like ALL anorexics. It's a mental mind game that becomes a deadly illness if you don't care to understand it. She didn't care. Her revenge on family took her life and it caught her young.

Anorexics are more self destructive than alcoholics and drug abusers. Their high is only in winning at losing battles.

Karen had a nice voice. Beautiful low notes. But she's no contralto.

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Loved Karen and her voice. So there!!!!

Was the 80s duo Sparks inspired by Karen and Richard in their style and overall look?

It is Richard's birthday today. Here he is with Petula Clark.

Ugly bitch

Anyway, here's Carpenter's Wonderwall.

Like a cottage cheese and Wonder bread sandwich.

Why dint someone just get the girl a cheeseburger?

She was taking fistfuls of laxatives a day, R260. A cheeseburger would have ended up in Karen's toilet in minutes.

I've always wondered if Jessica Harper's character from Phantom of the Paradise was loosely inspired by Karen. The song she sings feels like it was made for The Carpenters, they should have covered it.

Did Karen have a prolapsed anus?

Karen Carpenter died 60 years ago this week. My grandparents loved her.

Why didn't she just live on coffee and cigarettes?

She once dated Tony Danza

R264, I think you meant she died 40 years ago.

So sad. Didn't anyone tell her she was waisting away?