Noel & Liam Gallagher

It barely registers that these two are still alive

I love kissing boys

Have they fucked?

Damn, that's hot.

R3 honestly given the way they both go on about each other and obsess even in estrangement, it wouldn’t surprise me if they’d explored one another sexually or harboured some sort of romantic feelings.

Plus the fact that their home city of Manchester is actually a cesspit of inbreeding anyway.

R1=Damon Albarn, trying to deflect

[quote] it wouldn’t surprise me if they’d explored one another sexually or harboured some sort of romantic feelings.

I see passion in those eyes...

They have another older brother named Paul, who also shares their very distinctive look, and who is also estranged from both. Must be bloody weird being him, watching their behaviour from the outside and trying to make sense of it all while also living a normal non-famous non-wealthy life in obscurity.

One of Liam’s solo records is explicitly about his lack of contact with both Noel & Paul and how he wishes that they could reconnect, and in the companion music video depicts the three Gallagher brothers as youngsters (played by kid/teen actors) rambling together in a line over the bleak scraggy hills outside Manchester.

The video has a really poignant shot, in which Liam sits on one of three chairs in a row (set up outside on a windy hillside), and looks intently two chairs over at a sullen young man meant to represent a teenaged Noel, who in his turn stares back, until the camera spins and we see that adult Liam of Now has turned into a representation of his young child self who is peering with nervous innocence back at the bigger Noel.

Liam's son Lennon is gorgeous!

Lennon is hot.

r8 r9 🔥DAYUM🔥

He's a nice mix of his parents.

Yikes that son is decidedly not hot

I always thought they looked and behaved like a pair of apes.

Yeah they look that terrible anti-Irish propaganda from the 19th century

r12 r13

R14 funny you say that. I’ve always thought of the US as more Gaelic in spirit and practise than Brythonic or Anglo-Saxon.

Their Loch Lomond public snog of 1996 is still very....well...hmmmm

Would take a gun to my head for me to tongue my sibling in private let alone in front of a crowd of hundreds of thousands but I guess the Gallaghers are different people :/

I was wondering when the DL incest trolls would be back. It had been quiet for a few days since the “my dad was hot with a big cock” thread.

R11 Lennon is nowhere near as magnetic or beautiful or androgynously sexy as his Da was and still is.

And what would possess anyone name their son after a cultist abuser, anyway?

🔥 more broncest, please!

Have heard it said before by spiritual types that oftentimes siblings in this life/reality/existence are actually the karmic reincarnations of lovers from a previous life.

If one subscribed to linear ideas about soul migration and samsara, then one could easily apply this explanation to NoeLiam.

R16 can you try your post again?

The link said your photo doesn't exist.

I really want to see your pic.

I'm guessing it was this, r22.

Back in the 1990s they were doing all sorts of stuff to deliberately piss people off, they thought it made them cool and edgy. That's all the kiss was, I'm sure, or maybe a little bit of one brother trying to publicly embarrass the other.

Liam strangely enough has grown up quite a bit, I didn't think it was possible given how much of a wanker he was, but he seems to have had some therapy and maybe a few meds to turn him into a halfway decent person. Meanwhile Noel has turned into a huge Tory piece of shit and is completely intolerable.

Wow thanks, R23!

That's quite a kiss.

Both Gallagher boys seem crazy enough to have fooled around with each other when they were younger.

Those two used to get drunk as fuck, so it wouldn't be a surprise to hear that they messed around.

[quote] they thought it made them cool and edgy. That's all the kiss was, I'm sure, or maybe a little bit of one brother trying to publicly embarrass the other

I'm not so sure about that, R24.

That's an open-mouthed kiss, with Liam's arms wrapped around Noel.

It looks like they're both into it.

R26 think you’ve got their names mixed up love😅

In that image Noel is the one standing with his arms around his brother—-he’s the elder, shorter & stockier, and less conventionally-pretty of the two, usually with shorter hair and bigger brows. Liam is the younger taller one, with longer hair and a finer featured lovelier face.

If you just wanted this to be some Nifty subforum about celebrity incest then you should have said so, I wouldn't have bothered saying anything normal and reasonable and would have left you weirdos alone to your imagination and your Jergens.

Thanks, R27.

I was honestly guessing as to which brother was which.

And R28 you need to magnify the photo at R24.

Liam is giving some tongue action in that photo.

If you think it's just us "projecting," then you're the delusional one.

Who are these random sodomites?

R31/R32, is that the older brother who is all over the younger brother?

If so, it makes sense.

They were doing a shitload of really good ecstasy back then so I could see where boundaries were blurred the fuck out. Back in my E days all of my gold star gay friends loved to make out with me and play with my tits.

R33 - the older brother is over the younger in R31, and the reverse is the case on R32.

R34 the lesbian character on the tv show EUPHORIA is addicted to molly and she’s fucking a TIM so that actually does make sense.

The photo at R31 really does it for me.

They both seem very into that kiss.

They sadly had an abusive father, and came from a broken and relatively-impoverished home. Stranger things have come out of such environments..

[quote] in my E days all of my gold star gay friends loved to make out with me and play with my tits.

Why is that weirdly hot?

R33 Lol people would always get them mixed up in the early days, I think they found it funny.

Five years apart but they looked like twins.

R37

They're both very talented singer/songwriters.

Did they ever make up, or are they still at war with each other?

Is Liam still bitter that they never broke America?

I remember seeing gif with actual kiss. Hmm. I stopped liking them after this disgusting Michael Hutchence story. Can't forgive deliberate cruelty.

Noel and Liam wore matching Claddagh rings (traditional Irish rings representing love and eternal affection) for the longest time.

[quote] "They're both very talented singer/songwriters."

I liked them better when they co-starred as the titular character in "Trog".

R44 apparently they’re still locked in a personal Cold War, and have been No Contact for over a decade. Noel reportedly despises Liam’s sons, while Liam for his part has frequently expressed distaste and dislike for Noel’s current wife.

Sad, when you remember what they once had....

R36 What show are you watching?

If one examines the lyrics of B-sides & demos by Oasis, High Flying Birds, or either Gallagher solo, one can often find oblique Morrisey-esque references to homoromantic or homoerotic sentiments. Could be reflective of the era’s dying throes of New Wave/indiesexual fluidity, or perhaps something more personal...

The unfinished proto-Oasis demo from the early ‘90s titled ‘Take Me’ (not to be confused with the later album cut ‘Take Me Away’), with lyrics written & sung by a late-teenaged Liam, sounds suprisingly like the earnest plea of a young man who longs to be physically taken and pleasured by some force that is stronger or more dominant. Interestingly, though the band and especially Noel loved the song and wanted it on their first album, after the demo Liam vehemently refused to record a clean finished version and vetoed any further work on it, with a firm sense of upset and of shyness that he wasn’t used to showing at that point in the Oasis timeline. Was the song a bit too close to Liam’s heart, or close to an uncomfortable truth?

Did they share a bedroom growing up? They did not come from money.

A couple of years ago, Liam told an interviewer at Pink News that he doesn’t mind if his sons turn out to be same-sex attracted. Nice hearing that from a man who used to sling homophobic insults about.

[quote] LG: Yeah, I speak to my kids on a daily basis, me. I’m not one of them uptight fathers – everything is open round our way. We can talk about anything. Girls, boys, whatever. I’m like, “there anything you want to tell me?” You know, I don’t give a fuck about all that—you are what you are, and that’s that. There’s nothing that’s out of bounds.

R52 Noel & Liam did indeed share a bedroom for many years, up until Noel moved out (in disgust, most likely) when he reached his late teens/early twenties. As a Brit, I can say that this housing arrangement is typical for working-class Northern family life, not often or necessarily indicative of anything morally dark.

Liam tells a really funny anecdote from the late 1980s, about his 15-year old wastrel self coming home in the middle of the night drunk and high, stumbling through the dark house to their room, and pissing on Noel’s new (probably stolen) Hi-Fi stereo because he was desperate and he couldn’t see straight to find the landing light-switch that would lead him to the bathroom.

r55 With their amount of drinking/drugging, they must have at least exchanged handies.

They’re so goddamn ugly who cares.

From an interview with the Sunday Herald in June 2005, just before Oasis broke up. The brothers discuss the song on the sixth and what would become the penultimate Oasis album DON’T BELIEVE THE TRUTH, for which Liam wrote the lyrics, titled ‘Guess God Thinks I’m Abel’....

Noel: “Doesn’t Cain kill Abel in the end?”

Liam: “[grunting] Yeah.”

Noel “[bemused] Isn’t the first line of your song, “I could be your lover…”’

Liam: “Yeah.”

Noel: “[turning to speak to the interviewer] Now, if that’s not banned in this country, it’s certainly frowned upon. Brother-on-brother sex: it’s not right is it? So I’m kinda looking at Liam a bit differently lately. Strange kid…”

R47, R51, R58 I don't know where you guys find your details on Noel and Liam, but I love this background information on these guys.

I find them fascinating.

So much passion and fire between them.

[quote]“I say I hate Liam all the time, but I never mean it. We don’t talk anymore and that’s fucking rubbish, for both of us. But he won’t ever admit he misses me. I know there’ll be days when he wants to sit in a studio with me again, and he’ll regret that he let us drift apart. But one day, someone will punch Liam, and the bottom line is, I’m gonna find that bastard and smash his head for touching my brother.”

The documentary Supersonic is really good and very candid about their upbringing and the physical abuse Noel suffered at the hands of their father. Liam was the favorite child though and would never get hit.

I love their huge eyebrows - that's the only thought I've ever had about them.

Meh - I never thought their music anything other than hype. They had exactly one hit in the US.

I know they've had like 20 hit songs in the UK - but that's the only place they've had over the top success.

It felt like a band that was forever being pushed on America.

Never cared for them and I support the US on not going along with them.

[quote] I know they've had like 20 hit songs in the UK - but that's the only place they've had over the top success.

One of their mid-period albums spent almost 40 weeks at the top of the French charts. The French nominally hate the English, so what does that tell you?

^^^sorry, suppose I should have said ‘British’ not ‘English’, as strictly-speaking the Gallagher are second-gen Irish lads ☘️

R64 - which one? Cuz if it's Be Here Now and if it was #1 for 40 weeks it would've been the biggest album in France that year. It was 26th.

Not sure what your point is - but Oasis still sucks and is only popular in the UK. Nobody gives a fuck about them.

R66 haha wind your neck in mate. Didn’t say they were an all-time great band or that they were world-famous did I? I’m not even a fan myself, just find the brothers intriguing.

No denying though that in their heyday they were immensely popular. Everywhere you go, like it or not, people know the Gallaghers by image and sound.

I love Wonderwall and Champagne Supernova.

Those are both really good songs.

[quote]Liam strangely enough has grown up quite a bit, I didn't think it was possible given how much of a wanker he was, but he seems to have had some therapy and maybe a few meds to turn him into a halfway decent person. Meanwhile Noel has turned into a huge Tory piece of shit and is completely intolerable.

I follow Liam on Twitter but half of the time I don't know what he's talking about, I've disliked Noel ever since I heard about what he said to Michael Hutchence at the 1996 Brit Awards:

[quote][italic]Has-beens shouldn’t present fucking awards to gonna-bes.[/italic]

[quote]I always thought they looked and behaved like a pair of apes.

More than me?

I am a massive Oasis fan and it has never mattered to me how much everyone hates them.

Great live performers (and that for me has always been the sign of TRUE talent)

Kate Bush, Tori Amos, Oasis, Joni Mitchell, Bon Iver, and Father John Misty are my go-to's and they are probably the few things/humans that I will miss when I leave this earth.

Love them all!

Does anyone have a longer gif or video of this?

The tongue action is what makes me think that their relationship is deeper than just something played out for the paparazzi.

r61 I'm not an Oasis superfan, but I did enjoy Supersonic. It was a real 90's nostalgia romp.

R61 not gonna batter your least ugly kid, are you?

I love their music and I love their stupid antics. And being an Oasis fan, I also love the, ummmm, brotherly love they used to display. Since quite a lot of Oasis fans love snark and making fun of the Gallaghers, there are lots of fanfic dealing with Noel and Liam having it off. LOL.

Sharing clothes

I bet both brothers have messed around with guys at some point.

R80 even the main official Oasis biographies unanimously hint that as a young man Noel had some interesting homoromantic encounters during his roadying days with the Manchester/shoegaze band Inspiral Carpets. The 80s & early 90s were a more forgiving landscape for artistic bicurious people.

Did they ever do oral/anal on camera?

R82 Check out their OnlyFans.

R64 Yeah don’t call him English lol

As much as the Gallaghers seemed to be into each other, there's an interesting blurb on Liam's Wiki page that said outside of performances, Noel and Liam never saw each other.

Not only that, but they were in separate bands in their teens/early 20's.

That doesn't sound like a close relationship at all:

[quote] During Oasis's American tour in 1994, Liam frequently changed the words of Noel's songs so that they were offensive to both Americans and Noel. In September 1994, Oasis played at Whisky a Go Go in Los Angeles. The day of the show Oasis had been using methamphetamine that they believed was cocaine. The band made several mistakes and tensions arose on stage between Liam and Noel, eventually leading to Liam hitting Noel in the head with his tambourine. After the show, Noel shortly left the tour and went to San Francisco.

[quote] During the 1995 recording sessions for (What's the Story) Morning Glory?, the brothers had a fight when Liam invited everyone from a local pub back to the studio while Noel was trying to work, culminating in Noel hitting Liam over the head with a cricket bat. Noel later described this event as "possibly the biggest fight we ever had".

[quote] In 2009, prior to the group's break, Noel called Liam "rude, arrogant, intimidating, and lazy", describing him as "the angriest man you'll ever meet ... like a man with a fork in a world of soup". The final straw for the band came at Rock En Seine in Paris, when an altercation between the brothers (subsequently described by Noel as "no physical violence but there was a lot of World Wrestling Federation stuff") prior to their performance resulted in the destruction of Noel's guitar and saw him announce his departure from the group. Liam later claimed he "messed the first one up" when questioned about his 2019 MTV Unplugged performance and has since claimed he missed the show because he "accidentally got drunk again".

[quote] Liam has stated he does not speak much with Noel and that they "don't really have a relationship". During the final tour, the only time that they ever spoke directly was when onstage.

[quote] Noel would later reveal that while they were in Oasis, the two "never hung out together outside of the band, ever". Since the band's split, the only direct contact they have had with each other has consisted of exchanging text messages at Christmas; Liam also invited Noel to his wedding, which is scheduled to take place in 2021, but does not believe Noel will attend.

[quote] Despite their constant fighting, the Gallaghers showed mutual affection before, during, and after their time in Oasis. Liam often calls Noel the best songwriter in the world, while Noel frequently calls Liam "cooler" than himself and praises Liam's good looks. Noel has said that Oasis came down to the relationship between him and Liam. Weeks prior to this, Noel said Liam was "obsessed with him", leading Liam to allege the same thing about Noel.

They were always as rough as guts. Ugly with unpleasant personalities. They only appeal to straight men in football tops.

I never understood the fascination with Oasis. They were okay.

I always thought Blur and Pulp were superior.

[quote] Noel would later reveal that while they were in Oasis, the two "never hung out together outside of the band, ever".

Except for the romping and fucking, of course.

i head Liam loved to eat Noel's asshole every night.

[quote] In 2009, prior to the group's break, Noel called Liam "rude, arrogant, intimidating, and lazy", describing him as "the angriest man you'll ever meet ... like a man with a fork in a world of soup".

R85 the fact that Liam likes to clout people with his tambourine might be my favourite fact about him. Strange that a man so aggressive and nasty in some ways also has a bizarrely endearing and twee streak.

The equally high Egos on both brothers was the issue in the relationship. You can see in old concert footage that they both tended to fuck up and tread on the toes of the whole band when on stage, but they’d tried to deflect blame onto each other. Which made for humour and an entertaining show, but wasn’t professional or mature musicianship in the least.

I know someone who worked for them on what turned out to be their final tour. He said Liam was unbearable back then, behaving like a real dick, with people trying to avoid him whenever possible. At some point apparently Noel just didn't give a fuck any longer.

I don't see anything twee or endearing about those two. Hateful spoiled cruel assholes. Mediocre musicians. Blur were much better group.

R93 aw cheers love!

Liam coked out of his mind:

[...]

r97 Someone got their cock sucked.

R89 hmmm see in my head Liam would the one getting and taking it, but maybe that’s too cliché. Noel is smaller and a bit less physically aggressive, after all...

Mid-90s Liam had a great voice

R100 ironically, cigarettes & alcohol ruined the clarity and sweetness of Liam’s natural voice.

LOL this is comedy gold.

The part from 10:45 about John Lennon is hilarious:

^^”you think what I’m sayin’ is bullshit; I think what you’re sayin’ is bullshit.”

Occasionally, Liam does accurately pinpoint the issue. Stop the clocks, indeed.

Liam is in love with Richard Ashcroft, basically.

Oasis even wrote the song ‘Cast No Shadow’ about Rich.

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Ugh, another Gallagher spawn doing "modelling". Noel's daughter is a "model", too. A pretty desperate one, btw. Dad must be so proud.

[quote] Ugh, another Gallagher spawn doing "modelling". Noel's daughter is a "model", too. A pretty desperate one, btw. Dad must be so proud.

All celeb kids are models nowdays.

Lisa Rinna's two daughters, Yolanda Hadid's two daughters, David and Victoria Beckham's son Brooklyn, Helena Christensen's son, ,etc., etc.

Gallagher brothers 2.0

R108 Gallagher Sr really has got powerful genes, hasn’t he?

Strange brothers

Lol at R110.

They're both right!

So... I don't know any brothers who would be comfortable making out with each other in ANY situation.

Which makes me believe that they have fucked.

Given their addictions, one has to admire their past productivity.

Liam's voice was great here.

Oasis always had a way of making cover songs sound like they were theirs

*liam voice* eyaa right paul mccartney ‘temporary secretary’ goes ard when yehr smashed as fook

R116 Noel harmonizing with Liam sound amazing

enjoy laughing at these two muppets but my gods is manny a shithole. a bombsite flanked by two evil rubbish football clubs.

R118, they know what's they're doing.

It’s obvious that it irked Liam when Noel started singing on the albums. In their own words:

R121 ymmv but I think Liam’s resentment about that is justified.

Liam’s voice (and swagger, and image) were the key to Oasis’ success; the magic intangible element that connected the audience to the songs. That’s what legendary vocalists can do. Noel is capable of singing a song, the same way Ed Sheeran is; he can’t perform and embody and make one bespoke in the way Liam can, though.

They were cute, what do they look like now?

R123 Old. But Liam is still his cool self.

R124 really confident and sexy but really stupid men are ratings gold. Why else would we have bought Jack Grealish at a premium?

Noel got his teeth done, lost a bit of weight and used to look quite like a hot daddy for a while.

I bet Liam in his 20s was an absolutely filthy shag.

There’s a little bit of the Leemo spirit in every Brit🇬🇧

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chill middle-aged pilled-out geezer rights honestly

The body can handle only so much drugs and alcohol.

In the long run, you either get so sick of it that you stop doing it, or it ends up killing you.

But no one can do sustained drugs and alcohol for a long period of time.

R131 then explain Keef Richards?

He still shoots up regularly (excellent celebrity-exclusive medical grade, mind), and he’s older than recorded time.

There are always the exceptions, R132.

Some people are super human.

But Keith Richards just seems to be pickled and preserved.

Young Liam always looked cool as hell

She’s Electric is a gem with Beatles-influenced vocal harmony and some falsetto from Liam:

R135 Liam always hated that song, he couldn’t sing in falsetto after 1994.

It’s probably the lightest/simplest Oasis song after Songbird. Both of which sound like Beatles songs!

Hard to believe Manny turned out two charismatic and musical people at all.

Most of the natives (especially the straight men) are such meat-headed nondescript dolts.

R138 As a non-Brit I always associate Manchester with music - Joy Division, New Order, The Smiths, Simply Red, Buzzcocks, The Stone Roses, The Chemical Brothers, The Verve, Oasis, etc

[quote]"I don't think there is a difference between me and Noel. He's a cunt, I'm a cunt. Don't let him spin you; he's a cunt, I tell you. I'm the one who gets made out to be the cunt, but he makes me be the cunt. He pushes me into that cunt zone."

R140 yikes, that comment has codependency written all over it.

The damage abusive fathers do....

Rofl at R140.

I've never heard a person use the word "cunt" so many times in less than a minute!

R140 apparently the brothers wore each other’s ID bracelets publicly for a while (there’s photo proof, it’s said, though I can’t an example rn). One bracelet’s silver and the other’s gold, so it was quite noticeable.

Has either brother shown peen?

R143 They also wore matching Claddagh rings (traditional Irish love rings), a bit unusual for siblings to do:

R141 Liam's "men and religion have broken me" quote from an old interview:

[quote]Liam: I suffered a lot when I was a kid, it made me stronger. My father especially hurt me a lot. My mother's old friend as well. They showed me only the dirtiest face of life: insults, blows. Men and religion have broken me. But I understood very fast that I couldn't believe in God anymore but only in myself. And it's true that I became a man in spite of myself. I grew up too fast. I'm 24, but I've seen too many things. I'm still that angry kid and unfortunately I'm not about to calm down. I'll never forget a big fight between my parents; he didn't stop hitting her. She decided it was enough, she wanted to divorce. She used to go every week to the church but immediately after that she wasn't allowed to have the Communion anymore. She wasn't allowed anymore to eat Christ's body just cos she wanted to protect herself from a violent husband. I've never forgiven that hypocrisy from the Catholic Church. Religion turned its back to my mum so I turned my back to religion.

R146 defo much harder to hate and criticise Liam hearing him speak like that. He at least manages to identify the problem with a patriarchal and faith-based societal structure and the harm it inevitably does to women and children, which is more insight than many men ever glean. That I can respect him for.

He’s still not quite exonerated however, if only for his old habit of meteing out violence at will to any random bloke and shagging women rather inconsiderately. Yes, in fairness it was a phase that’s over now, his testosterone mixed with drug abuse made him him do it, and his CSA was being triggered hardcore by the pressures of fame, but technically he was still passing on the abuse he suffered and that is kind of fucked up on his part.

I hopefully assume he treats his partner and kids better.

The conversation between them before this kiss in the Supersonic doc was too funny

N: ”Say what, our kid, you’re looking old, you, these days.”

L: ”Who is? You dick. Fucking not my fault, it’s your fault.”

Brothers

They both look mildly retarded.

R135 R137 Go Let It Out sounds like The Beatles’ Strawberry Fields Forever

Funny that a staunchly proud Manc group so idolised a quartet of Scousers.

Makes you think.

From the Navy CIS soundtrack (LOL)

"girl or boy" hmm

Dermot oblong = Damon Albarn

[quote] we always had the craic

What?

R155 Liam means that he & Damon always had a banterous laugh when socialising together, and it was a good time with a bit of piss-taking but no real serious animosity.

Every member of Blur has at one point or another expressed their liking for Liam. He seems like a loveable pesky little Britpop brother to them.

R155 Craic (pronounced "crack") is an Irish word for fun/enjoyment

Cheers, R156 & R157!

Irish are a weird bunch.

R154 that is an interesting comment. Straight from the horse’s mouth!

Wonder if Liam was referring only to Damon’s/Blur’s recorded bisexuality or to his own preferences as well? We know from several confirmed accounts that Damon, Alex James and Gra Coxon have all had consensual sexual encounters with men before, but Liam is still a mystery.

Damn. Alex James? I had no idea. He dated a girl I knew in Athens, GA. He mentioned her in his book. I was absolutely shocked, I thought that was actually pretty amazing for a sidepiece.

Blur's bass-twangling Alex James has always been a whore. With Liam having been randy when younger, I guess it's pretty safe to say he has blown Liam at some point.

[quote] Damn. Alex James? I had no idea.

R162 sorry but how didn’t you clock Alex? He’s very very swishy. The stereotypical effete posho bisexual Tory boy. He’s practically a caricature. He must have slept with half of London during the height of his fame, men and women. Out of interest which was the girl you knew in his book? (and which book?), and did she enjoy her time with him?

Alex James had or has a thing for Blur’s drummer Dave Rowntree, I reckon.

Sounds mad until you take a closer look at their connection. Seems like an intense deep relationship. Alex shows a side of his personality that is very clingy and seriously honest and raw when he’s with Dave, in a way he doesn’t with anyone else in public, which suggests they have a high degree of vulnerability and trust between them. Musical partners can often have these bonds, but there’s something a little more...hmmmm here imo. They do a lot together outside of the band just the two of them..

Plus it must have been refreshing for Alex to be with humdrum lowkey boring beige homely (sorry) Dave back in the day when every glitzy celeb wanted a piece of him. That’s actually how they became close friends—none of Alex’s sleb mates wanted to listen to him rabbit on about science and cuisine and transport and all his other nerdy interests, but he found that Dave did want to indulge him. That must feel nice, to be validated as a thinking interesting person when the world sees you only as a popular butterfly and a shallow whore.

And Dave for all his apparent quiet dull middleclassness is quite a tough guy; no one wanted to take him on back when he still drank. Flighty passive Alex I imagine enjoys a firm hand and a dominant partner.

I just assumed he was British. The girl was a friend of a friend and she and Alex hooked up every time they came to Atlanta for years. The book was his autobiography and I was not expecting him to mention her. Or Atlanta. They loved it. Probably the drugs

Young Liam was sexy as fuck

R167 everyone forgets about ‘Round Our Way’! I love that one, wish they play it live more often😔

Oh yesssssssssssss, Round Are Way is massive, particuarly live.

Knebworth version, second night.

Some brotherly banter between Noel and Liam in the beginning - happier times the 90s were.

Liam’s twitter is hilarious

Some gems:

R172 Those were FANTASTIC. I love him.

R168 Oasis’ B-sides were always great. The Masterplan, Talk Tonight, Half The World Away and Acquiesce should’ve been singles themselves.

Acquiesce is the quintessential Oasis track I reckon, peak 90s rock and roll. I love this version where Liam comes in at the end of the first chorus when Noel is finishing his lyric, they're so in sync.

R175 Liam is giving peak girlfriend/groupie energy posing like that...

Surprised anyone here cares about this pair of ugly, charisma devoid Neanderthals.

R179 I don't think they were ever liked for their charisma but for their music and attitude (and arrogance).

[quote]Young Liam was sexy as fuck

Douchebaggery aside, he really was a specific type of 90's hottie.

R181 yes exactly!! That specific sleepy druggy lazy laddish vibe of the Britpop prettyboys...like sex is always on the cards with them but only after a lot of cuppas and weed and football on telly and noodling around with guitars & synths...

Liam on Jonathan Ross telling a story about walking his little dog Sparkle/Ruby in Hampstead Heath which is a cruising park for gay men:

Liam did an interview with the Sunday Times and once again whined about how much Noel has changed and how Noel should reconnect with him for their mother's sake; yet Liam still slags him off and said on a recent Graham Norton that he doesn't like his brother Why would Noel want to be in a room with him, let alone perform with him again?

E185 yeah fair fucks. We don’t know how exactly what if any attempts at reconciliation have been made behind closed doors, but this public airing of laundry is not the way to go about it.

Unless it’s all a massive work, which at this ridiculous point I’m willing to concede it may be.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Liam actually has borderline personality disorder. He seems to have an intense fear of abandonment, he goes from idolizing and worshiping Noel one minute to hating him the next. Along with his intense anger, mood swings, impulsive and risky behavior, etc.

He hates his abusive dad but he is his father’s son after all:

Liam had a great voice back in the day. Aged only 21 in 1994:

R188 Their thick Mancunian accents are borderline incomprehensible

Noel’s ex-wife has a penis belly button.

No wonder he chose her, R190.

Since he doesn't get to have Noel's any more.

The brothers should be happy tonight, as Man City just smacked Sporting Lisbon 5-0.

R189 if you struggle with a slow enunciated Manc, do not progress any further into the North. To your ear everyone will sound like they’re speaking gibberish.

R112 Liam still wears that Gucci coat

[italic]Interviewer: Is it about him?

Noel: No, that would be gay wouldn’t it. He said to me one night ”all your songs are about me, aren’t they?”

Liam: I’m his muse

R196 while to say *all* Oasis/HFB songs are about Liam is a massive stretch and a bit silly, there are at least a dozen songs in the catalogue with lyrics that correlate very strongly to someone who fits Liam’s profile.

For just one example of many; ‘Where Did It All Go Wrong?’ can’t be about anyone else, really.

^^also, though it’s sung (very beautifully) by Liam, Oasis’ ‘Don’t Go Away’ sounds as if it could be about a fraught close and hidden relationship akin to that of the Gallaghers..

R34, you just had to kill the homoerotica, huh? Fuck you skanky bitches, always trying to convert gay men.

[quote]Noel: No, that would be gay wouldn’t it.

Not just gay, incest.

Maybe incest is common to joke about if you're from Manchester

R201 shoot oop, right? Putting that kind of rubbish about isn’t on. Not on. Honestleh.

R187 we should probably start calling abusers and assaulters and people who do GBH to kids and women what they actually are, instead of hiding behind ‘mental illness’.

Noel and Liam harmonizing:

Both Gallagher brothers have written some strange lyrics alluding to incest. Noel wrote these words for Liam to sing:

[italic] A feeling sleeping deep inside

You hide it so I'll never find

Today I think I'll waste my time

You never notice you are blind

The dream I have can never be

You're my lover

I'm your brother

You're my lover

I'm your brother

Who knew there were Oasis fans on DL

Gas Panic is a tune

There were only 3 legitimately good bands to come out of Britpop - Pulp, Oasis and Blur, with Pulp being better than the latter 2 combined. And then a few years later The Libertines come along, the best of them all.

I adore this song and I love how the lyrics in the refrain change ever so slightly.

Its a really great tune and great way to live life.

And so, Sally can wait

She knows it's too late as she's walking on by

My soul slides away

But don't look back in anger, I heard you say

So, Sally can wait

She knows it's too late as we're walking on by

Her soul slides away

But don't look back in anger, I heard you say

So, Sally can wait

She knows it's too late as she's walking on by

My soul slides away

But don't look back in anger, don't look back in anger

I heard you say

At least not today

We're totally MAD FER IT, R206.

[quote]The documentary Supersonic is really good and very candid about their upbringing

I just noticed Supersonic is streaming free on Kanopy so I'm going to watch it tonight.

I stopped watching Shameless, were these brothers or cousins added to the show 8n later seasons?

Is Noely knocking off that lazy little footballer slut Jack Grealish?🤔 they were looking cozy at the boxing...

R206 Lol how is he chewing gum and singing at the same time?

Gas Panic at Wembley sounded massive, all of their songs sound better live.

Liam’s spoken English should be the new standard fook RP honestly

R215 Lol, many Brits have a hard time understanding people from Manchester:

I was just on NME reading something and noticed this article on the sidebar:

[quote]Liam Gallagher will be picking up this year’s Music Moment Of The Year Award at the BandLab NME Awards 2022 – in honour of the free concert he played for NHS workers at London’s O2 Arena.

[quote]former Oasis frontman and previous Godlike Genius recipient Liam Gallagher will be honoured with Music Moment Of The Year for his stellar gig at London’s O2 on August 17, 2021 – where he and Primal Scream welcomed the return of live music and thanked NHS staff for their hard work through the pandemic by performing a free show for healthcare workers.

[quote]Responding to the win, Gallagher told NME: “I’d like to thank NME for the Music Moment Of The Year award and would like to dedicate it to all the NHS and care workers and all the people that give a shit in general. LG x”

I just noticed he's on their front page with a February 18, 2022 interview as well.

Then and now

What does "Wonderwall" even mean????

[quote]1996 Forever

I wish!

I love Oasis but have no idea which of the two brothers: a) wrote the better songs b) was the vocalist

R222 generally-speaking it shakes out a) Noel (the older shorter and uglier one), b) Liam, HOWEVER, Liam has written a handful of pretty lovely pop songs by himself since going solo (see upthread), and Noel for his part unfortunately insists on singing lead in his own band outside of Oasis (Noel is a decent writer and a witty raconteur, but no-one wants to hear him sing or see him model in photos, sorry).

R220:

[quote] According to [Noel] Gallagher, "Wonderwall" describes "an imaginary friend who's gonna come and save you from yourself"

[quote] [Wonderwall's] sleeve artwork was inspired by the paintings of the Belgian surrealist René Magritte, and was shot on Primrose Hill in London by Michael Spencer Jones. The hand holding the frame is that of art director Brian Cannon. The original idea was to have Liam in the frame before Noel vetoed that idea whilst the shoot was taking place.

's always been a massive cunt, yer know

On that day Liam couldn't wipe that dirty smirk off his face coz I've been presenting hole to him the night before.

R225 The original shot with Liam would've made for better artwork. Noel always seemed jealous of Liam.

[quote]The never-used Wonderwall cover: Noel wanted a picture of someone framed. I thought it might look twee if we weren't careful so Brian (Cannon) and I decided we'd have the contrast with Liam inside the frame. We set up camp on Primrose Hill. Owen Morris (the single's producer) was holding the picture frame with Liam posing. All of the sudden a taxi screeches by with this guy screaming at us out of the window. Then he got out of the cab -still ranting- and I thought, God, who is this nutter? When I turned around I saw it was Noel. He asked us what the hell we thought we were doing. He said, “It's a love song, there is no way it's having our kid on the sleeve!” With that, the shoot was aborted and we had to reshoot the next day with Anita Heyret from Creation replacing Liam. - Michael Spencer Jones, photographer.

[quote] He said, “It's a love song, there is no way it's having our kid on the sleeve!”

There we have it. More than just pure and chaste brotherly love. Taking a look at the sleeve would've painfully reminded him of the hot sibling sex he used to enjoy so much.

R229 yeah to be fair that is a bit suss. Suspiciously specific objection :/

brotherly love

They at the very least had a wank together.

Liam is a born frontman with an iconic voice, I can't think of a more recognizable voice in rock music in the last 25 years

Damon Albarn

Jarvis Cocker

Liam’s ”model” spawn

R234 I would’ve loved to have seen sworn Britpop enemies Liam and Damon getting it on..

^ That's a druggy 90's fantasy I could get into.

R125/R212 Noel has bettah keep his hands off our Jack, that’s all ah’ll seey.

R236 as if they were feuding over a woman. I know that’s the official story but like...come on now😔

Early days Oasis sounded very punk rock, I always liked Bring It On Down

You're the outcast You're the underclass

The genius of Oasis & the Gallaghers is that they had a commercial sound but they emerged out of the DIY/lo-Fi/shoegaze & Baggy scene which was very much all about defying the brand-and-status obsessed GQ/Tatler consciousness espoused by all the trendy upper-middle-class cunts of the time. When they first broke through, Oasis and their message of collectivist euphoria and The Charver Derive spoke to a silent majority of lower-class/income people who couldn’t access and mostly didn’t want or need the aspirational lifestyle sold by the mass media. Unfortunately and inevitably, the millions thrown at the band eventually disconnected them from this core original fanbase.

Liam was on Jimmy Fallon last nigh and sounded great. I prefer this version of Everything's Electric to the one he did at the Brits.

[italic] "I think we're both the problem and the problem is that he thinks he's not the problem. He thinks I’m both the problems. Whereas I’m just a problem. I’m half the problem, whereas I can’t be having him thinking I’m the full problem. He needs to take on some of the problem. The minute he does that we'll move on... He needs to own his problem."

R244 lot of therapy-speak, there. The man may have matured but I don’t believe Leemo came to that conclusion on his own😅

R242 I remember when Liam turned down a major modeling deal with Calvin Klein in the 90s.

Liam was always a hoot, I wish we still had rockstars.

[italic] Reporter: Liam Gallagher is now coming out. He’s talking.

Liam: And he’s looking good.

Liam is still hot, he has a good-looking body underneath those parkas:

R245 He definitely sounds like he’s had therapy. He hasn’t been lashing out on Noel on social media as much in the last few years either. I remember reading an interview where he mentioned something about feeling abandoned by Noel.

[quote]"I thought he was joking when he said he hated me, but now I think he actually doesn't like me. The olive branches have been out many times. I have no more. I did my best. And my best wasn't good enough. So I'll leave it at that. It would be nice for my family, for my brother Paul and my kids and me mam and all that. It would be nice but like I said, I can't go round begging people for my love." - Liam

[quote] I think he actually doesn't like me. The olive branches have been out many times. I have no more. I did my best. And my best wasn't good enough.

Ngl my heart breaks a little bit hearing that😥if my close (platonic!) sibling did this to me I’d be devo’d, even if I had nearly deserved it.

Not disputing that Liam is/was hard to live with and can be a massive prick, but time marches on and he seems to have changed. If appearances do match reality, then Noel is miserably grudgeholding and protracting suffering needlessly, just to prove a point and serve his own ego.

Gemini & Virgo Sun can be heaven or hell as a love match, btw..

”People think I'm just a fucking lunatic, but Noel can be a little bitch, too.”

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IN THE MORNING WE DON’T KNOW WHAT TO DO WE’RE TWO OF A KIND WE’LL FIND A WAY TO DO WHAT WE’VE DONE OH LET ME BE THE ONE WHO SHINES WITH YOU AND WE CAN SLIDE AWAY💽🎤🎶

(it’s Manchester Derby day for context)

Liam acting a bit humble for a change

R236

I always liked I Hope, I Think, I Know. I wonder why they never played it live.

WE’VE BEEN TO ROTTERDAM AND MONACO, NAPOLI AND ROME

BUT WE’VE STILL GOT BLUE EMPTY SEATS, EMPTY SEATS AT HOME, EMPTY SEATS AT HOME

Liam Gallagher is a national treasure

[quote]I've got four GCSEs mate I'm not silly

How much cocaine did the Gallagher brothers snort throughout the 90s I wonder

R259 There's a story in the Supersonic doc (trailer at R61) about how they snorted a bunch of crystal meth, mistaking it for coke, resulting in an infamously disastrous show. There's footage of it in the doc.

[quote]6. Crystal meth wrecked their American launch. Their first U.S. show, at the Whisky a Go Go in 1994, was a notorious trainwreck; thanks to a mix-up with set lists, each member of the band started playing a different song at one point. That footage is here in all its insane glory, but the doc also cites another reason for the onstage travesty: crystal meth. Oasis had discovered it right before the gig and misused it: “We all thought it was coke and were doing big fucking lines of it,” Liam recalls. The band was up for days, resulting in the hot mess onstage.

Liam was always unintentionally hilarious; insulting everyone left, right and center then asking for a light LOL

Noel in the Supersonic documentary: [quote]"Liam's like a dog, and I'm like a cat. Cats are very independent creatures. They don't give a fuck, right bastards. Dogs, it's just fuckin: 'Play with me, play with me, please?! Throw that fuckin' ball for me cos' I need some fuckin' company…’ It's as basic as that. You can't change the way that you are. I'm a cat, okay? That's just what I am. I've accepted it. I'm a bit of a bastard. What can I say, you know? I'm a bit of a cunt."

Noel’s never really been sexy but he had a cute-adjacent moment the late 90s I said what I said

Lol

R264 he says when photographed with his eyes open and very much participating with enthusiasm

oh Leemo

Young Liam coked out of his mind:

22 year old Liam - what an accent!

r268 Back when you could see musicians on MTV.

When City buy the League again this year these two will become insufferable.

The Gallaghers, Premier League footballers, Drake Bell and Josh Peck - I wish OP would take her pathetic, ludicrous fantasies about gay male sex and fuck off somewhere else.

Who bottoms?

[quote]They have another older brother named Paul, who also shares their very distinctive look, and who is also estranged from both. Must be bloody weird being him, watching their behaviour from the outside and trying to make sense of it all while also living a normal non-famous non-wealthy life in obscurity.

Paul isn't estranged from either, he speaks with both and actually has joined Liam on tour in recent years, as a photographer. He also seems to have made his peace with being the 'other Gallagher brother' who isn't wealthy or famous, he travels quite a bit and seems to have many friends both famous and non, if you judge by his social media.

R272 oi do, whenevah thay coom to wotch a Citay match💭🤤🥅🐣

R271 and i wish elders would learn and abide by the basic internet etiquette of dni and keep scrolling if you see sth you don’t like on the dash but guess its like that ancient song says you can’t always get what you want

Liam's youngest son was in court yesterday:

[quote]All three men were charged with affray, but Gallagher was also charged with racially aggravated assault by beating, and Starkey was charged with two counts of assault by beating.

Patsy Kensit's right - Liam IS tasty!

Liam is angry over the judge calling Gene entitled LOL - no comment about the racially aggravated assault though.

Does Gene even have a job? At least Lennon "models"

R8 Kid looks stoned.

r279 Like father like son.

"If ya can’t steal from Tescos, where can you steal from eh? This country is over." I'm sorry, but I laughed out loud.

[quote]When one fan told Liam that he was being “very disrespectful of our law and order”, the singer replied: “Fuck law and order, I’m into chaos and crisps.”

He's a right regular hooligan lout, Liam, who isn't aging very well but have to say, both Gallagher brothers could have second careers doing local stand up or writing comedy. Some of Noel's interviews from the past 15 years are classics in their own right.

Liam has got to be a social experiment. Got to be.

Tweedledee and Tweedledum

Lol!

R284 just what you get for bullying pretty girls like Jack Grealish ent it...

Poor guy

[italic]Liam Gallagher has said he needs a double hip replacement after being diagnosed three tears ago with arthritis. He said “My hips are f***ed, I’ve got arthritis, bad. I went to get it checked out and my bones are mashed up. The lady was going, ‘Oh, you might need a hip operation, a replacement. I think I’d rather just be in pain. Which is ridiculous, obviously. I know that. Just get them fixed. But it’s the stigma, saying you’ve had your hips replaced. What’s next?”

He said he was put off the procedure after being told he could die during the operation – where your hip bone is replaced by an artificial implant.

He joked his fiancée, Debbie Gwyther could act as a carer for him. He asaid “F*** off. I’m not going to crisp it having my hip cracked, thank you. I’d rather be in a wheelchair, with Debbie pushing me around, like Little Britain.”

He better be careful, or he'll end up like Prince or Tom Petty, both of whom avoided the same surgery and ended up in so much pain they got addicted to pain pills. And we know what happened next. Madonna, too, is a case example of his future, as many of her current issues imo stem from some kind of opioid/pain medication haze. He's already admitted he's using sleeping pills.

He's a bit out of touch - there's not much stigma associated with hip replacement anymore, with the updated surgical techniques. Yeah he'll be out of commission for a while and will need a lot of PT, but he's relatively young (not even 50 yet) in decent physical shape and should bounce back nicely. He'd be ready to rock in no time. I also know he's a bit of a running addict so being out of commission from that must be depressing.

R287 of course it hasn’t crossed his mind that his poor partner may not want to spend her middle years carting him round in a wheelchair...

His 'poor partner' is also his manager and wants him up and about performing regularly otherwise - whoosh - she's out that door to seek greener pastures and working performers.

^^love knowing who the DL misogynists are so I can heat up my block button🖲

Um, what's so misogynist about noting the double role his partner plays for him? She's known as a hard-nosed businessperson, nothing derogatory about that. If he's not going to perform and continue to make money, why would she otherwise stick around and put up with his chavvy shenanigans? There are loads of younger, hungrier acts who would be sure to work with her. She single-handedly brought LG back from the brink of professional obscurity several years ago.

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Liam's latest. I think filmed in Manchester. Decent, catchy and commercial while still keeping that semi-trippy, Oasis-esque vibe.

Is it me, or can it be said LG's nearly fully thrown off the shadow of NG with this latest record? It's gotten decent reviews, he wrote much of it, and he's just sold out two headliner Knebworth shows on his own.

R294 That's a really good one

I also liked Everything’s Electric:

R296 first we’ve heard of that, though someone should’ve let us know.

Still, nice to see the nasty old club rivalries fall by the wayside for romance, eh?

I don't think Phillips plays for Liverpool, he's currently on loan to Bournemouth. Not sure how that works as a yank who tries to follow UK football. Congrats to Liverpool btw for the FA cup win today.

Have to say Lisa Moorish has aged extremely well. I didn't know she was seeing Darren Emerson, formerly of Underworld, who also looks great. She's had a fill of good looking or famous musicians.

What's their legacy?

I bet they miss the '90s.

[quote] Congrats to Liverpool btw for the FA cup win today.

R298 from a fan, ta very much lad!!!! It was a long road (16 years!) but we got there in the end eh??!! And what a finish from our Greek Scouser Tsimi!!!

This truly is our era, well-deserved, and we're coming for all the trophies we can get off the back of this. Man City can keep on with their financial doping and their bribing refs and their stealing players from the open market---all that effort and money and desperation, and it clearly isn't working in their favour, is it? Team synergy, inspired coaching, a club ethos, and a clutch mentality is truly what matters to get you over the finish line....

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[quote]I bet they miss the '90s.

Everyone who was there misses the 90's. Even people who weren't.

What I don't understand is, why does Liam keep needling Noel in the press and media, if he's done so well on his own? The new record is getting great reviews, he's sold out two nights at Knebworth next month. He's clearly shown he doesn't need to go back to Oasis.

Answering questions from fans for The Guardian. He's a funny bloke.

Oasis: Supersonic is showing on Showtime today.

These two guys are very interesting.

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Liam Gallagher being a fan of the very gay show Our Flag Means Death is pretty unexpected haha

I can't tell them apart. I don't know who is Liam and who is Noel. This is how little they interest me. NEXT!

R310

Liam in good form and voice kicking off the Taylor Hawkins Memorial at Wembley over the weekend. Live Forever:

Well it happened: Noel and Sara are splitting up, after nearly two decades together (link in the next post). Is a reunion in the works, finally?

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Liam's son Lennon walks for Burberry in London this week, his two other kids and gf attend in the FROW (front row):

R308 why? Liam isn't known to be a homophobe, and he enjoys modern telly.

just reread my post at R300. what a difference a year makes T_T

i'm so sorry Hendo do you want me to rub your back or hold you while you cry babe

R316 Yes and isn’t Liam’s tour manager a lesbian?

His current gf is his manager. Her best friend from childhood, who helps with the tour schedule (I guess she'd be the "tour manager") is a lesbian who recently married her partner, with Liam present.