The late, great Carole Lombard died in a plane crash coming home from a war bonds rally. A month later, Lombard's last film, "To Be or Not to Be" was released. This satire about a group of Polish theatrical actors fighting the Nazis is both smart and hilarious. Carole Lombard and Jack Benny make a great team, directed by Ernst Lubitsch. Here's my look at Lombard's fine finale:
Carole Lombard died in a plane crash 80 years ago 1.16.42
|by Anonymous||reply 145||February 1, 2022 2:34 AM|
Well, that had to suck.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||January 15, 2022 11:38 AM|
They identified her by her hair. There was nothing else left of her that was recognizable
|by Anonymous||reply 2||January 15, 2022 11:43 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 3||January 15, 2022 11:58 AM|
Piss off, R3.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||January 15, 2022 12:03 PM|
Would she have been better as Scarlett O'Hara?
|by Anonymous||reply 5||January 15, 2022 12:35 PM|
No, Scarlett wasn’t blonde.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||January 15, 2022 12:48 PM|
Apparently, one of those stars beloved by all who knew her. Men esepcially adored her witty obsecne banter.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||January 15, 2022 1:05 PM|
She's my favorite actress of all time. She had such a lightness about her, even back in her Mack Sennett days (I wish I could find a clip, it has been too long since I've seen any of the early film).
My Man Godfrey is still genius today, in fact, the Forgotten Men sequence could be today, except no president of a bank would end up homeless so his customers did not suffer, as they did in the fantasy of the 1930s.
Godfrey is in the public domain, but treat yourself, and find a good print, which this is not- Watch it. So many great performances.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||January 15, 2022 1:11 PM|
Nothing's Sacred could be remade today with Hazel being a social media star:
|by Anonymous||reply 9||January 15, 2022 1:13 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 10||January 15, 2022 1:16 PM|
The wreckage of the plane was never removed.
It was considered too dangerous to even attempt it.
It's a treacherous trek, but there are those who have hiked up to the wreckage and photographed pieces of the fuselage.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||January 15, 2022 1:26 PM|
R6, Neither was Carole.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||January 15, 2022 1:31 PM|
Carole was rushing home to LA after she heard that hubby Clark Gable was having an affair with Lana Turner. That's why she took a risky flight in bad weather.
She was a close friend of Lucille Ball, who encouraged her protege Carole Cook to change her name after her.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||January 15, 2022 1:32 PM|
Carole should have won The Oscar for My Man Godfrey instead of Luise Reiner.
Clark Gable was buried with her when he died 19 years later, instead of his current wife. I started a thread on this when I read about it, linked below.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||January 15, 2022 1:40 PM|
Love her. Terrific actress.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||January 15, 2022 1:48 PM|
I read that she flipped a coin - heads , take train , tails, plane ✈️.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||January 15, 2022 2:09 PM|
I don't understand how any of her hair coukd be left after being on fire for hours
|by Anonymous||reply 17||January 15, 2022 2:14 PM|
R14, Gable is interred next to Carole, and next to her is her mother, Elizabeth Peters, who also perished in the crash.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||January 15, 2022 2:15 PM|
So for people interred in a wall instead of in the earth, are the bodies/caskets still pretty much as they were?
|by Anonymous||reply 19||January 15, 2022 2:19 PM|
No, r19. They explode and their is a draining system to deal with it. Death of the flesh is disgusting. The soul is eternal
|by Anonymous||reply 20||January 15, 2022 2:35 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 21||January 15, 2022 2:35 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 22||January 15, 2022 2:43 PM|
When we die, our souls don’t age past 30. We are young again!
|by Anonymous||reply 23||January 15, 2022 2:45 PM|
Carole's first husband was William Powell, who was engaged to that other tragic blonde of the '30s, Jean Harlow, whose last film was "Saratoga" with Clark Gable.
Gable and Lombard's first public outing as a couple was at Harlow's funeral and pissed off their respective studios since Clark was still legally married to Rhea Langham.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||January 15, 2022 2:49 PM|
Orson Welles was convinced that the plane was shot down by nazis in the desert . Remember, Pearl Harbor had happened only months ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||January 15, 2022 3:09 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 26||January 15, 2022 3:24 PM|
Robert Stack was fuckalicious back then
|by Anonymous||reply 27||January 15, 2022 3:30 PM|
I feel ready to let my grief go.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||January 15, 2022 3:35 PM|
[quote]When we die, our souls don’t age past 30. We are young again!
That explains Palm Springs.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||January 15, 2022 3:37 PM|
Here's some color footage of Lombard's last appearance, where Carole had just helped raise 2 million dollars in war bonds...
|by Anonymous||reply 30||January 15, 2022 4:29 PM|
R16, Yes, her mother and Gable's publicist, Otto Winkler, were afraid of flying and insisted on the original plan to travel by train. But Lombard was anxious to get back home so they flipped a coin.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||January 15, 2022 5:33 PM|
R13, Carole was frequently on the set of "Honky Tonk" (1941) to make sure there was no funny business going on between her husband and Lana Turner. She was well aware of Lana's party girl reputation and Clark's eye for the young ladies. When she learned that Clark and Lana were to be paired again for "Somewhere I'll Find You" (1942) she hit the roof. They supposedly fought about Lana before Carole left for Indiana on the war bond drive. Whether Clark and Lana actually had an affair we will never know. Lana, of course, denied it.
Lana was actually fired from "Somewhere I'll Find You" for marrying Artie Shaw without Louis B. Mayer's permission, and was replaced with Esther Williams. However, by the time the film went into production, Lana had divorced Artie and was back in Mayer's good graces.
After Lombard's death, Gable requested that the title "Somewhere I'll Find You" be changed. The new title was to be "Red Light," but MGM did the old switcheroo and changed it back upon its release.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||January 15, 2022 6:11 PM|
It's always a point of interest to see how different cinematographers lit her to mitigate her facial scars. The best was Ted Tetzlaff.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||January 15, 2022 6:26 PM|
R33, There was only one facial scar.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||January 15, 2022 6:46 PM|
[quote] Gable is interred next to Carole
Next to her hair (that's all that was left)?
|by Anonymous||reply 35||January 15, 2022 7:23 PM|
burned naugahyde and chiffon.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||January 15, 2022 7:25 PM|
White chiffon. Terracotta pots.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||January 15, 2022 7:32 PM|
[quote]But Lombard was anxious to get back home so they flipped a coin.
Can't win for losin'.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||January 15, 2022 7:34 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 39||January 15, 2022 7:35 PM|
There's this guy on a site I frequent who has visited the crash site many times over the years and has found bits of Lombard's ruby jewelry she was wearing that night among other souvenirs.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||January 15, 2022 7:37 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 41||January 15, 2022 7:40 PM|
R35, it was more than just her hair:
[quote]A Vegas store owner and some soldiers had succeeded in shifting a hunk of the TWA-3’s wing that had settled near the cliff. Beneath it were three bodies. They were badly broken and burned but mostly intact. One was a man and the other two, women.
[quote]Third degree burns from the fuel fire had made the bodies unrecognizable apart from their general figures. One of the women, the one with the most delicate figure, rested face down in the snow. This body had no left arm and its head had nearly been sheared off in the crash. A volunteer put out one gloved hand and gently turned the body over. The woman’s face was as unrecognizable as the rest of her body, but there was a half-burnt envelope beneath the body. It was a personal schedule of Lombard’s War Bonds appearances.
[quote]Eddie Mannix tromped over and saw the envelope. He looked down at the mangled corpse. His eyes traveled from foot to face and then rested on the blackened skull. The hair had burnt away, but a single patch had somehow been protected from the fire. One curled lock of familiar blond hair.
[quote]Eddie Mannix nodded. It was Carole.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||January 15, 2022 7:52 PM|
I've never seen a body in that condition!
|by Anonymous||reply 43||January 15, 2022 7:54 PM|
R35, I like hair.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||January 15, 2022 8:32 PM|
I wish I could find the whistleblower interview where it was revealed that a UFO shot down her plane in response to the US 's secret policy (at the time) to shoot down any UFO in US air space. The government pages on this "accident" are still blacked out even to this day. The whistleblower said that FDR warned many closest to him (she was one of his biggest supporters) about flying during this time as planes even "mysteriously caught fire" on the runways around the globe. This was the most dangerous time of flying up to that point The "Battle Of Los Angeles" (which many eyewitnesses reported as 1 large UFO overhead) happened shortly after her famous crash on 2-24-42.
This report down below has some of the UFO details but it lacks the whistleblower's account of events =
|by Anonymous||reply 45||January 15, 2022 9:15 PM|
R45, that post is so whack that I won't even click the link. What kind of crazy exists beyond one click? I'll never know...
|by Anonymous||reply 46||January 15, 2022 9:26 PM|
Earthfiles has 15 search results for "Carol Lombard" =
|by Anonymous||reply 47||January 15, 2022 9:33 PM|
For a good chuckle, see Lana Turner on Phil Donahue promoting her mea culpa memoirs! Right off the bat, Phil asks her about rumors that Carole chose to fly home to be back with Gable, rather than take the train. Lana insists that she and "Mr. Gable" were just friends... Or that Tyrone was the love of her life... And keep watching for Lana's insistence she wasn't truly an alcoholic... ...Or that there was no feud between Lana and Jane "Bangs" Wyman... Turner plays the MGM great lady here, but the good-natured broad peeps out...
|by Anonymous||reply 48||January 15, 2022 11:10 PM|
From Fort Wayne, Indiana
|by Anonymous||reply 49||January 15, 2022 11:15 PM|
Schock's g grandma?
|by Anonymous||reply 50||January 15, 2022 11:17 PM|
Human remains have nothing to do with the soul
|by Anonymous||reply 51||January 15, 2022 11:34 PM|
Here's a Criterion promo for "To Be or Not To Be," well worth watching...
|by Anonymous||reply 52||January 16, 2022 11:45 AM|
Awful to hear the grisly details
|by Anonymous||reply 53||January 16, 2022 12:07 PM|
At least she still had hair.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||January 16, 2022 12:20 PM|
On a happier note, here's some home movies of Carole Lombard, who was quite the live wire, as well as great beauty, too...
|by Anonymous||reply 55||January 16, 2022 1:38 PM|
Wasn't there stories that Carole did t really agree with hunting but did it as a way to please "Pa"?
|by Anonymous||reply 56||January 16, 2022 2:10 PM|
She was vivacious
|by Anonymous||reply 57||January 16, 2022 3:37 PM|
Please read the book Fireball by Robert Matzen. It’s harrowing yet fascinating (“I couldn’t put it down!”) and is a blend of her life and what happened around the time of the crash. I keep checking back to see if he’s written any new books because I enjoyed this one so much. Lombard was really adorable in My Man Godfrey - such a tragedy to lose her so young.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||January 16, 2022 3:55 PM|
Was she aware that they were crashing? I have a feeling they were awake because they were only an hour from LA
|by Anonymous||reply 59||January 16, 2022 4:11 PM|
I don't believe they were aware - the official version is the pilot miscalculated the height of the mountain and crashed right into it without trying to pull the nose up.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||January 16, 2022 4:12 PM|
How awful to die in active terror, with an understanding what's likely to happen and no ability to control it.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||January 16, 2022 4:13 PM|
Did they burn to death?
|by Anonymous||reply 62||January 16, 2022 4:14 PM|
R62 no the impact would have killed everyone immediately. Still a very horrible and violent way to die.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||January 16, 2022 4:17 PM|
R24 Rhea was my grandmother’s cousin.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||January 16, 2022 4:18 PM|
The plane was only 80 feet away from clearing the mountain. Just a mere 80 feet higher and they all would've been fine.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||January 16, 2022 4:18 PM|
"Cock-a-doodle-doo, any cock'll do!"
|by Anonymous||reply 66||January 16, 2022 4:19 PM|
R63, did they feel impact?
|by Anonymous||reply 67||January 16, 2022 4:44 PM|
Love this photo of her:
|by Anonymous||reply 68||January 16, 2022 4:54 PM|
R67 I hope not, from what I can understand the split second of impact and explosion would be too quick for the brain to process
|by Anonymous||reply 69||January 16, 2022 5:56 PM|
She was one of the few who could do both comedy and drama equally well. She's wonderful in the "race against time to save sick baby" melodrama MADE FOR EACH OTHER (39).
|by Anonymous||reply 70||January 16, 2022 6:14 PM|
Here's my take on "Made For Each Other," which came out in '39, Jimmy Stewart's big breakout year in Hollywood
Interesting that Carole and Jimmy were born the same year, she long a big star, him just starting. 3 years later, Lombard was dead, and Stewart in the service for WWII.
Made for Each Other really shows off Carole and Jimmy's naturalistic acting as newlyweds in their first year of marriage. There's several good and free copies on YouTube.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||January 16, 2022 6:58 PM|
R64, Rhea or Ria was a Texas socialite whom the ambitious Gable latched on to during his climb to the top of screen stardom. She put up with his dalliances with Joan Crawford and Loretta Young and countless other starlets as long as he returned home and made her look good as the wife of America's #1 Movie Star. Movie fans had her back and admonished Clark if they suspected he was cheating on her.
But with Carole it was different. When it became known that Clark and Carole were an item, the fans turned on Rhea and admonished [italic]her[/italic] for keeping the pair from marital bliss. Rhea saw the writing on the wall and filed for divorce, but demanded $300,000 for the trouble. Clark took a loan from Louis B. Mayer and had to finally agree to do "Gone With The Wind" in exchange. (He had already been signed to play Rhett Butler, but he kept threatening to drop out of the picture.)
|by Anonymous||reply 72||January 16, 2022 7:38 PM|
It's amazing, because of film, we're still talking about an actress who died 80 years ago. I doubt that in 1942 they was much discussion about the actresses of 1862.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||January 16, 2022 9:32 PM|
Yes r73! Film brings history to life
|by Anonymous||reply 74||January 16, 2022 9:42 PM|
Probably because the first commercial film was released in 1903, and even if your every day person cared about stage actresses, Broadway didn’t really become a thing until the late 1870’s.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||January 16, 2022 9:44 PM|
Sounds like it was the same kind of crash as what Patsy Cline was in.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||January 16, 2022 10:37 PM|
R76, Patsy's plane crashed into the swampy woods of Camden, but the way "Sweet Dreams" portrayed it, they crashed into the face of a mountain in an explosive fireball.
Patsy's manager Randy Woods was a non-instrument rated pilot and attempted to navigate through adverse weather conditions by visuals only, became disoriented, and crashed... much like JFK, Jr.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||January 16, 2022 11:03 PM|
^^ Randy Hughes, I meant.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||January 17, 2022 2:34 AM|
Why would anyone care what happened 80 years ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||January 17, 2022 2:54 AM|
Poor Patsy cline
|by Anonymous||reply 80||January 17, 2022 3:14 AM|
R76 Patsy's plane never exploded, it smashed into the ground and crumpled. As R77 points out, it was changed for the movie as I guess it made a more dramatic scene where clearly there could be no survivors
|by Anonymous||reply 81||January 17, 2022 7:05 AM|
I ain't ever heard of her, she must not have been much of a star.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||January 17, 2022 11:52 PM|
Lol R82 Biggest star in her time
|by Anonymous||reply 83||January 17, 2022 11:54 PM|
R81, were the passengers aware it was going down?
|by Anonymous||reply 84||January 17, 2022 11:55 PM|
On The Twentieth Century is an incredible comedy. Everyone is on the top of their game, and it never stops. I watch it every year.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||January 18, 2022 12:03 AM|
Carole Lombard was a major movie star in that era, she was as big as Hepburn, Davis and Crawford.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||January 18, 2022 12:04 AM|
r85 I also love that film. It's fantastic.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||January 18, 2022 12:05 AM|
R87 Oh shit, I mean Twentieth Century, 'On The...' was the Musical. Carole in her panties....woof.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||January 18, 2022 12:14 AM|
I liked "Nothing Sacred" from 1937 with Lombard and Fredric March, directed by William Wellman.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||January 18, 2022 2:32 AM|
Carole Lombard was a great star in her era, a great beauty, and considered to be one of the great comic actresses. For those not familiar, check Carole's films out, Lombard's surprisingly modern in her acting style. And made some comedy classics, too.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||January 18, 2022 1:08 PM|
What roles would Carole have excelled in, had she lived?
|by Anonymous||reply 91||January 18, 2022 7:43 PM|
R91 Any she wanted. Really good question.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||January 18, 2022 7:52 PM|
What was on her Victrola?
|by Anonymous||reply 93||January 18, 2022 7:55 PM|
Was she ever considered for Scarlett?
|by Anonymous||reply 94||January 18, 2022 7:56 PM|
When I think of Carole, I think of Helen Gallagher...
|by Anonymous||reply 95||January 18, 2022 8:00 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 96||January 19, 2022 12:21 AM|
What was Carole like off screen?
|by Anonymous||reply 97||January 19, 2022 12:21 AM|
These are the kind of threads I love on DL.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||January 19, 2022 12:24 AM|
[quote] What was Carole like off screen?
Bawdy, funny, sexy, unpretentious, down to earth, fun. She was well liked by everyone, like that other tragic Hollywood blonde Jean Harlow.
She and Gable were perfect for each other. They called each other "Ma" and "Pa." She was Gable's true love and he never got over her death. He remarried twice, but both wives were substitutes for her. He was reported as saying after her death "Why did Ma have to go? Did you ever see anyone more beautiful? There was never a person in this world who was so generous, so full of fun. Goddamn it, why Ma?"
|by Anonymous||reply 99||January 19, 2022 12:43 AM|
R94, if I recall, in "The Scarlett O'Hara War," Carole Lombard (Sharon Gless) screen tested for the part of Scarlett, but eventually joined Tallulah Bankhead (Carrie Nye) in dumping their bowls of soup on David O. Selzick's head.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||January 19, 2022 12:43 AM|
^^ That never happened in real life.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||January 19, 2022 12:50 AM|
R99, so sad
|by Anonymous||reply 102||January 19, 2022 12:50 AM|
Carole may have loved Gable but she was openly critical of his abilities in bed.
"I love Pa dearly, but if he were one inch shorter he would be the Queen of Hollywood, not the King."
|by Anonymous||reply 103||January 19, 2022 12:53 AM|
I love this picture, Carole presenting Clark with ham at the wrap party for "No Man of Her Own."
|by Anonymous||reply 104||January 19, 2022 1:13 AM|
I don't think that quote at R103 is accurate. I always heard she said "You know I love Pa, but I can't say he's a helluva good lay." Or “God knows I love Clark, but he's the worst lay in town.” Or "I adore Clark but he's a lousy lay." Something along those lines. Anyway, Gable didn't have to put a lot of effort into his lovemaking because he didn't HAVE to. Women went after him like flies to a honey pot. Joan Blondell said "he affected all females, unless they were dead."
|by Anonymous||reply 105||January 19, 2022 1:16 AM|
So, a bad fuck with terrible breath AND a cheater. Not so sure Gable/Lombard would have lasted. She could've done better.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||January 19, 2022 1:34 AM|
[quote]R14: Carole should have won The Oscar for My Man Godfrey instead of Luise Reiner.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||January 19, 2022 1:36 AM|
Calling your lover ma or pa is creepy and a sexual turn off
|by Anonymous||reply 108||January 19, 2022 1:36 AM|
Why this movie wasn't a blockbuster...well...
|by Anonymous||reply 109||January 19, 2022 1:42 AM|
I adore Mr and Mrs Smith, one of the few Hitchcock comedies. She is just so fuckable.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||January 19, 2022 2:57 AM|
She does anger well.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||January 19, 2022 2:59 AM|
[quote] So, a bad fuck with terrible breath AND a cheater. Not so sure Gable/Lombard would have lasted. She could've done better.
How could she have done better than "The King of Hollywood?" By the way, Gable, who had faults like everybody does, was also as universally liked as Lombard was. Women loved him; men liked him. Offscreen he was very different from his cocky, wise cracking, sexually aggressive screen image. In real life he was a self deprecating, unassuming regular guy who liked to go fishing and hunting. He was as unpretentious as Lombard was. I think Lombard liked all these qualities about him. Although he was the biggest of "stars" he didn't act like one. That was probably one of the things about him all women found attractive.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||January 19, 2022 3:32 AM|
Lombard and first husband William Powell.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||January 19, 2022 5:13 AM|
Gable couldn't have been that bad in bed. Crawford went back again and again.
Joan knew what she wanted and certainly knew what she was doing.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||January 19, 2022 5:39 AM|
One of my childhood memories was watching a Gable movie with my Dad, and he points out how Gable must have really bad breath, because you can see the actress recoiling a little bit when Gable pulls her close and utters a line in her face.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||January 19, 2022 1:41 PM|
Marlene Dietrich and Carole. Dietrich was gorgeous in the 30s.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||January 19, 2022 7:23 PM|
I think Carole Lombard would have made a great Margo Channing. And I love Bette in that part...
|by Anonymous||reply 117||January 19, 2022 7:52 PM|
Who knows how bad Gable's breath was. But he was a great kisser, as evidenced from his movies.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||January 19, 2022 8:50 PM|
When King Tinymeat took out his teeth, he was wonderful at cunnilingus.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||January 24, 2022 1:12 PM|
80 years ago? 8 decades? 4 to 5 generations? Has it been that long? My gosh! How time flies. Mother would have been 4 years old. Where does the time go!?
|by Anonymous||reply 120||January 24, 2022 1:53 PM|
It was hard to be beautiful and funny onscreen, but she was able to pull it off. Her and Kay Kendall, maybe.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||January 24, 2022 3:03 PM|
I love this shot by Hurrell.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||January 24, 2022 6:45 PM|
What becomes a legend most?
|by Anonymous||reply 123||January 24, 2022 6:56 PM|
Another Hurrell shot of Carole…
|by Anonymous||reply 124||January 24, 2022 7:39 PM|
R116, I wonder if they ever hooked up
|by Anonymous||reply 125||January 25, 2022 1:31 AM|
Carole was strictly dickly. Claudette Colbert, however, liked the lady ham so maybe Marlene got a piece of that.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||January 25, 2022 1:54 AM|
R126, how do you know? So many women were occasionally bisexual in that era of Hollywood
|by Anonymous||reply 127||January 25, 2022 1:58 AM|
There has never been anything about Carole Lombard being bi. Colbert and Dietrich, of course, have had plenty of confirmation.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||January 25, 2022 2:00 AM|
[quote] It was hard to be beautiful and funny onscreen
Don't forget me, bitches!
|by Anonymous||reply 129||January 25, 2022 2:09 AM|
Carole once commented that she found Gary Cooper feminine.
Her true love, pre-Gable, was crooner Russ Columbo, who was as popular as Bing Crosby.
Columbo was accidentally killed while inspecting a gun with a friend.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||January 25, 2022 5:29 AM|
Russ and Carole. Russ died in 1934 at the age of 26. Carole died in 1942 at the age of 33.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||January 25, 2022 5:55 AM|
Lombard by John Englestead
|by Anonymous||reply 132||January 26, 2022 5:11 AM|
^^ I meant [italic]Engstead[/italic]
|by Anonymous||reply 133||January 26, 2022 5:14 AM|
I was wondering why she stopped sending me Christmas cards.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||January 26, 2022 5:41 AM|
"Carole once commented that she found Gary Cooper feminine. "
|by Anonymous||reply 135||January 26, 2022 8:09 AM|
Why did they not let her play Scarlett?
|by Anonymous||reply 136||January 26, 2022 5:28 PM|
Carole Lombard, like Joan Crawford, couldn't do period work. They were too modern.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||January 26, 2022 7:01 PM|
[quote] Why did they not let her play Scarlett?
Because Vivien Leigh was perfect for the role. The absolute perfect choice to play Scarlett O'Hara.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||January 26, 2022 11:49 PM|
VL wasn't even American, she was British. What the hell would she have known about the American South?
|by Anonymous||reply 139||January 29, 2022 5:54 AM|
[quote] L wasn't even American, she was British. What the hell would she have known about the American South?
She was an ACTRESS. She could PRETEND to be something she was not. Get it?
|by Anonymous||reply 140||January 29, 2022 6:12 AM|
It was said back than, that in the South, they'd rather have a Brit playing Scarlet than a Yankee (Davis, Hepburn etc.)
|by Anonymous||reply 141||January 29, 2022 7:21 AM|
Carole did come off very smart, strong, and modern. Can totally see her playing the kind of career women Roz and Joan played in the '40s. I think Carole Lombard could have made a helluva Margo Channing, too.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||February 1, 2022 1:42 AM|
In the 1950s, Carole would have gone into television and either hosted her own anthology show like Loretta Young did or starred in a sitcom like Lucy did.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||February 1, 2022 2:01 AM|
She was more modern than all of us put together.
|by Anonymous||reply 144||February 1, 2022 2:25 AM|
Carole was great in everything she did. She was so lucky that her final film was such a classic. And, it can be said she actually gave her life for her country's war effort.
Gable seemed like a good guy. He was actually friends with Hattie McDaniel. He didn't want to attend the GWTW premiere in Atlanta once he discovered she wasn't invited. It is said he refused until Selznick got her to give him permission. He also was known for attending her legendary parties which only a few white celebrities did.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||February 1, 2022 2:34 AM|