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Shingles

I’m in day 2 of my first outbreak. Lord help me this is painful. They put me on gabapentin - I can only take it at night. It puts me to sleep. Sadly I’m in my 40s so I’m not sure I qualify or should get vaccinated for it. My stress level is through the roof so I’m guessing that’s what brought all this on. Any advice on dealing with the pain?

by Anonymousreply 84January 15, 2022 6:15 PM

Sorry to hear it. Not all insurances cover the newish 2-shot shingles vax; I paid cash @165.

by Anonymousreply 1January 12, 2022 8:05 PM

I'm sorry OP. That's really painful.

by Anonymousreply 2January 12, 2022 8:09 PM

Gabapentin? Aw hell no! I'd be [italic] demanding[/italic] Roxicet 10mg. I'm serious. You need to tell your MD that the gabapentin isn't adequately controlling your pain and you need something stronger. When my brother had shingles they were giving him morphine, for gods sake. I get that Gabapentin is made for nerve pain but still. It wouldn't even take the edge off of something as painful as a shingles outbreak.

by Anonymousreply 3January 12, 2022 8:14 PM

Got my vax for shingles after seeing the thread here with a very graphic pix of an outbreak on a guy’s chest. 2 shots cost $480 total. Insurance didn’t cover.

So sorry to hear of your outbreak. My best for a speedy recovery.

by Anonymousreply 4January 12, 2022 8:18 PM

You can take it in the day , my dr said u can take up to 1800 mg a day, at first it will make you really sleepy just drink a coffee after taking and after a few days it wont make you sleepy anymore.hope it goes away quickly.!

by Anonymousreply 5January 12, 2022 8:24 PM

r3 yeah, on it's own, it's more for reducing the unsettling symptoms of nerve damage than addressing immediate pain and even then, most won't start at an adequate dosage. So, for many, gabapentin is better when used in combination with other medications . . those sensitive to it finds it has an enhancing effect on painkillers, in particular, marijuana and it's related byproducts. microdosing 420 edibles on its own can be helpful for some as that is easier to microdose and obtain than restricted medications.

by Anonymousreply 6January 12, 2022 8:30 PM

My insurance paid for the vaccine soI guess I should stop bitching about it.

by Anonymousreply 7January 12, 2022 8:34 PM

I think you need a doctor's prescription for this vaccine. Anyone know if this is the case?

by Anonymousreply 8January 12, 2022 8:35 PM

My younger brother had it on his forearm and gave when he was 9 (!) years old and I remember he was in so much pain he would scream at us for talking too loud which caused him pain even though we were speaking in normal volumes.

I hope you feel better OP!

by Anonymousreply 9January 12, 2022 8:37 PM

I think you can get it at the pharmacy nowadays without a prescription, at least in some states, and I don’t think your age matters anymore.

I also had shingles several years ago during a stressful period when I was in my 40s, and actually lied about my age/paid cash just to get the vaccine because I never, EVER want to get shingles again. Worst physical discomfort I have ever experienced.

by Anonymousreply 10January 12, 2022 9:11 PM

When I got shingles, I already had gabapentin and was prescribed tramadol. The combo kinda worked well. It wasn’t no crystal stair, but dammit I’m alive!! I wasn’t sure I would live through the pain. Seriously contemplated jumping out the window many of those nights.

by Anonymousreply 11January 12, 2022 9:16 PM

I believe you can still get shingles with the vaccine, but it will lessen the severity.

by Anonymousreply 12January 12, 2022 9:21 PM

What the hell kind of insurance policies do people have that won't cover the Shingles vaccine? Is it that you're too young? Will it cover it when you are over the age it is recommended for?

by Anonymousreply 13January 12, 2022 9:22 PM

I got the shingles vax. Yes, because the thread that was on here in the past scared me! Glad I got it though. I will say the shots ( there are two) made me really sick the night I got them. But again, glad for the vax.

by Anonymousreply 14January 12, 2022 9:29 PM

Take lysine + drop caffeine and eat extremely well. My partner just got over a case and he was in agony. He actually cried as the pain was so bad. The nerve pill didn't help him much but taking Tylenol + ibuprofen did. He got over it fairly quickly due to a huge diet switch + lysine. He will be taking the shingles vaccine + working on reducing job related/aging parent related stress.

Take care OP. The vaccine should be free. It is here in Canada.

by Anonymousreply 15January 12, 2022 9:32 PM

A few years ago I had shingles. Believe me, you don't want to get them. The pain/itch was almost unbearable, and I still have significant scarring on my left shoulder. I couldn't eat and couldn't sleep. I lay on the bed all day watching reruns of old crime dramas like Cold Case, just letting the words and images wash over me. If it hadn't been for my partner, I probably would have starved to death and been eaten by my cats.

He'd herd me into the shower when he got home from work, and prepared meals for me, and in general fussed over me. I'm sure I looked like a hollow-eyed zombie, but I didn't care. Get the vaccine. It might save you a lot of blood, sweat and tears.

by Anonymousreply 16January 12, 2022 9:41 PM

A little over a decade ago, I got a "moderate" outbreak according to my physician. It occurred on my left side. I was prescribed Triamcinolone Acetonide cream to treat the sores. Soon afters, I took the single dose Shingles vaccine available at the time. A few years later, I had a mild outbreak on my stomach, consisting of four or five sores. Even a mild outbreak is painful for days. I recommend the vaccine to anyone near age 50 or over and had the chicken pox when younger. Of course talk to your physician first if one is unsure about the effects. Hope you quickly feel better, OP.

by Anonymousreply 17January 12, 2022 9:44 PM

[quote]after taking and after a few days it won't make you sleepy anymore.

Not true. I take 600mg a night to help me sleep.

by Anonymousreply 18January 12, 2022 9:51 PM

My sister had a mild case of shingles and was in a lot of pain. I got the Shingrix vaccine 2 years ago the 2 shots were expensive but worth it.

by Anonymousreply 19January 12, 2022 10:00 PM

Can someone describe the side effects from the vaccine?

by Anonymousreply 20January 12, 2022 10:02 PM

[quote] I believe you can still get shingles with the vaccine, but it will lessen the severity.

Where have I heard this before?

by Anonymousreply 21January 12, 2022 10:05 PM

Naive question: how do you get shingles?

by Anonymousreply 22January 12, 2022 10:08 PM

My sister takes 2700 mg of Gabapentin to control the pain from a spinal tumour. The problem is finding something that doesn’t make you drowsy. The other pain meds she was on sent her loopy. She also uses lidoderm patches.

by Anonymousreply 23January 12, 2022 10:09 PM

R22, my understanding is that once you have had chicken pox the residual virus remains and when someone stressed or run down can flair up and cause shingles

by Anonymousreply 24January 12, 2022 10:12 PM

[quote]Got my vax for shingles after seeing the thread here with a very graphic pix of an outbreak on a guy’s chest. 2 shots cost $480 total. Insurance didn’t cover.

he Affordable Care Act (ACA) requires all Health Insurance Marketplace plans and most other private health insurance plans to cover all ACIP-recommended vaccines, including SHINGRIX, with no cost sharing (deductibles, copayments or coinsurance) if administered in-network.

by Anonymousreply 25January 12, 2022 10:18 PM

[quote] What the hell kind of insurance policies do people have that won't cover the Shingles vaccine? Is it that you're too young? Will it cover it when you are over the age it is recommended for?

Shut up. Most insurance plans will not cover the shingles vaccines until a person is 50 years or older. Since OP has had shingles he may be able to get an override/exemption and be able to get the vaccines. Call you insurance company and ask them.

Yes, Obamacare covers the Shingles vaccines, but a person has to be 50 or older. That's what medical experts recommend. But I sure all of you know more than the medical experts.

by Anonymousreply 26January 12, 2022 10:22 PM

r13 Recommended age is the biggest barrier for most. It's not age specifically when you get into the nitty gritty, it's more about the likelihood of getting it. So, even if their insurance will pay for it, their primary might also be held to other standards. From the medical side, it's often a combination of budget restraints, risks and legal (potential lawsuits).

by Anonymousreply 27January 12, 2022 10:24 PM

[quote]Can someone describe the side effects from the vaccine?

Similar to the Covid vaccines. Pain at the site of injection, nausea, fatigue, muscle aches, chills

by Anonymousreply 28January 12, 2022 10:24 PM

Walmart, Sams Club and Costco offer inexpensive vaccines. It's like $200 for the Shingles vaccinations. You do NOT have to be a member of Sams Club or Costco to use their pharmacy, vision center or hearing aid center. Just go to the door and when they ask for your membership card, tell them you are going to the pharmacy

Call the pharmacy before you go to make sure they have the vaccines in stock. Shingles is a series of two shots (like Covid)

by Anonymousreply 29January 12, 2022 10:27 PM

OP, worst pain in my life. Stay on those pain meds; it was like a hot iron on my head 24/7; did not come off.

I finally got on the pain pills and lived to take on each night at 7 and would sleep till 7 am; was able to sleep through the but the pain would start again at 7 am as soon as I woke up; eventually, the pain didn't start till 8 then 9 then 10...and eventually I got better; worst 4 months of my life.

but I didn't get on pain pills right away; it's good that you are.

Just know that someday this will be over.

by Anonymousreply 30January 12, 2022 10:28 PM

Very few people get chicken pox these days, but many many people still get infected with HERPES.

So you get the idea where shingles come from. SLUT.

by Anonymousreply 31January 12, 2022 10:31 PM

Vitamin C and Citrus bioflavanoids helped me with shingles

by Anonymousreply 32January 12, 2022 10:33 PM

OP I had shingles and went to a dermatologist not knowing what it was. He injected me with a painkiller and gave me prescription for Valtrex. I had a mild case that didn't spread because I sought medical help immediately, but my shoulder and upper armed ached for days.

by Anonymousreply 33January 12, 2022 10:35 PM

Where's that thread that scared everyone straight?

I need to convince my needle-phobic (but vaxxed and boosted) dad that he must get this shot.

by Anonymousreply 34January 12, 2022 10:37 PM

[quote] Shut up. Most insurance plans will not cover the shingles vaccines until a person is 50 years or older.

Hey fuck off. That's exactly what I said.

Don't come here and strut your assholery.

by Anonymousreply 35January 12, 2022 10:44 PM

Every time I see this type thread, I think to myself, I have to get this vaccine. Dread the shot and side effects. I know, it’s better than getting shingles itself.

by Anonymousreply 36January 12, 2022 10:51 PM

I had a really bad outbreak at 40, took a lot of Codeine and Tramadol but nothing really helped.

I had the vaccine about six months later, but my doctor insists I take 1200mg of Aciclovir every day since to prevent a recurrence. Fourteen years and counting now.

by Anonymousreply 37January 12, 2022 10:58 PM

My 66-year-old dear friend insists his doctor says he doesn't need the vaccine and isn't recommending it. How is that even possible? I have given up encouraging him to get it. Naturally he thinks his doctor knows more than I do.

by Anonymousreply 38January 12, 2022 11:07 PM

I had shingles in my left ear, which was horrible, and then I had vertigo for about a year.

by Anonymousreply 39January 12, 2022 11:16 PM

[quote]1200mg of Aciclovir every day since to prevent a recurrence. Fourteen years and counting now.

Doesn't the drug fuck up your liver and kidneys?

by Anonymousreply 40January 12, 2022 11:25 PM

I only had some fatigue, r36. But that was the same with my Moderna shots.

by Anonymousreply 41January 12, 2022 11:29 PM

[quote] I think you need a doctor's prescription for this vaccine. Anyone know if this is the case?

No, it’s not the case. I went online to Rite Aid and made an appointment in my town. I’m getting the first shot next week. I’m over 65.

by Anonymousreply 42January 12, 2022 11:31 PM

I'm so glad I got my first shot two months ago. I go for the second in February. I asked the nurse that gave me the shot if I would feel any side effects. He said typically no. He was wrong. I felt like i had the flu for about 36 hours but not a big deal.

by Anonymousreply 43January 12, 2022 11:41 PM

r40 not the person in question, but as a know it all prick, when that's a risk then routine blood and other tests are done to keep levels in check. And/or particularly in the covid era, add medications to reduce associated risks.

by Anonymousreply 44January 13, 2022 12:27 AM

[quote] Where's that thread that scared everyone straight?

Is this it? I can’t see the photo with the original post, though.

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by Anonymousreply 45January 13, 2022 12:28 AM

My arm was so sore I couldn't sleep on it with the first shot. It lasted about 3-4 days. The second shot wasn't that bad at all. Just a little sore. I got the Shingles first then my 2 Covid shots then 3 or 2 weeks after my second Pfizer I got my final Shingrix. I really had to scramble to fit them all in within the prescribed time limits.

by Anonymousreply 46January 13, 2022 12:29 AM

This is all very helpful thank you! The odd thing is the first doctor thought I had folliculitis on one side of my chest. He gave me Keflex and that didn’t work. I had to see a second doctor for them to diagnose me with shingles.. lord! I just took my 6th gabapentin today. Jesus it feels like an internal sunburn!

by Anonymousreply 47January 13, 2022 12:30 AM

I’m getting the shingles vax in exactly one month. I had to schedule the appt, & they were backed up 3 months! Now I’d better not come down with it before then…keeping my stress to a minimum, but that’s about all you can do.

by Anonymousreply 48January 13, 2022 12:32 AM

I am so sorry, OP. I hope they go away soon and your discomfort can be eased.

by Anonymousreply 49January 13, 2022 12:33 AM

I turned 50 in May. It sounds like I’ll have to wait till it’s covered

by Anonymousreply 50January 13, 2022 12:33 AM

I got it at 47. I must have been lucky the nerve pain was in my right leg and it felt like I pulled a muscle, then of course on vacation my husband goes "what is that on your leg?" spiral-like sores all down my right thigh and leg. This was the height of bed bugs so I swore our hotel had them but they checked and told me no. So I go to urgent care and the doctor takes one look and goes "shingles." I had no idea what it was. He was amazed I was not in more pain. He gave me valtrix and told me to put apple cider vinegar on the spiral marks.

by Anonymousreply 51January 13, 2022 12:42 AM

When i had my first Shingrix shot I woke up in the middle of the night feeling nauseated and had chills. I had no trouble going back to sleep. This was about 12 hours after my injection. I went to work feeling blah and rundown. Lasted until nooninsh and went home and ate something and took a nap. When I woke up around 3 I felt fine. So the side effects hit me about 12 hours after the injection and lasted about 12 hours. The second shot I had no side effects. I had very little side effects on any of my three Covid shots. The only other injection side effect is when I had a Flu shot and a Pneumonia shot at the same time. That was sore upper arms for three days.

by Anonymousreply 52January 13, 2022 12:43 AM

The new shingles shot - Shingrix is a DEAD vaccine. The old vaccine - Zostavax - was taken off the market in late 2020. I got Shingrix in fall 2020 while there were still Zostavax vaccine floating around unexpired. I had research it and asked at my Kaiser appointment which one I was getting and they said Shingrix - they had stopped the other a while before.

So I have no idea if the side effects are different for the different vaccines.

by Anonymousreply 53January 13, 2022 12:50 AM

OMG! Why did I read this thread? I'm 51 and now terrified. I'm getting the shot tomorrow (if I can).

by Anonymousreply 54January 13, 2022 12:58 AM

R38, did your neighbor have chicken pox? My doctor said I didn’t need the shingles vaccine as I didn’t have chicken pox and was vaccinated against it.

by Anonymousreply 55January 13, 2022 1:07 AM

I took the Shingrex in the middle of the covid shoots too. I had no side effects -- just use the arm and I believe the symptoms are lessened that way.

I had heard of someone who got it in their eye and that was all the info I needed!

Also, I was charged ~ $180/ shot and I'm over 50 so don't expect it to be free but find out cause that's bullshit if it's now covered.

by Anonymousreply 56January 13, 2022 1:13 AM

Shingles doesn’t care

by Anonymousreply 57January 13, 2022 1:18 AM

r54 There's several vaccines that people aren't regularly offered.. it's too frequently an assumption among medical professionals that either you'll request them or you've already had them.

And you could also consider how many people lose access to their pediatric records and end up having to rely only on school records, if available, and again, there's a prevalent assumption that you're covered when that might not be the case. let alone, the various changes to the vaccine that may have taken place since.

It's like physicals - much of the public assumes that with an annual physical they'll be tested for everything and their gp will handle it. So, it carries the same kind of assumptions and generally most medical professionals lack the intimate details of their patients lives. . . and tend to fail to keep up with the stats on different demographics and their needs, so they tend to wait until there's a red flag. Some are afraid of potential offense, too, like when it comes to recommending the hpv & hbv vaccines.

by Anonymousreply 58January 13, 2022 1:22 AM

R40 Aciclovir at 1200mg doesn't seem to, I have really regular blood tests (4 times a year) for that and other conditions and they usually come out OK.

I had significant nerve damage from the initial attack, it also hit my lungs.

I also don't get cold sores now as a bonus.

by Anonymousreply 59January 13, 2022 1:51 AM

Shingles hits the lungs?

by Anonymousreply 60January 13, 2022 1:59 AM

^i think it can attack whatever organs are near where it hits. Although it’s usually on the torso, my mother knows someone who lost an eye to shingles.

by Anonymousreply 61January 13, 2022 2:16 AM

It's also possible to get it in other organs, even the brain.

I thankfully didn't get it in my eyes, though it was close.

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by Anonymousreply 62January 13, 2022 2:18 AM

FYI my older friend went for the shingles vax at CVS and discovered that the Minute Clinic would not accept his Blue Cross Medicare, but the pharmacy there did.

by Anonymousreply 63January 13, 2022 2:42 AM

I had a mild case 15 years ago. I was under tremendous stress at the time and I suspect that made me more susceptible. It’s caused by the same virus as chickenpox (Zoster. My doc prescribed Valtrex (an antivital stronger than Acyclovir) but nothing for pain management. Even with a mild case, the pain can be intense: imagine shards of broken glass under your skin. I had my first dose of Shingrix last month: no major side effects (other than a sore arm) but I’ve been told that the second dose reaction can be more severe. Not something to look forward to but I wouldn’t want to endure that pain again.

by Anonymousreply 64January 13, 2022 2:59 AM

For the people who are getting vaccines AFTER getting shingles, I thanks it they can come on more than once?

by Anonymousreply 65January 13, 2022 3:10 AM

*take

by Anonymousreply 66January 13, 2022 3:10 AM

If you have herpes or a compromised immune system can you get it before age 50?

by Anonymousreply 67January 13, 2022 3:13 AM

R65 There is no limit to the number of times that you can get an outbreak.

67 My Brother got then aged 14, he has no underlying health condition.

Dear

by Anonymousreply 68January 13, 2022 3:18 AM

R65 There is no limit to the number of times that you can get an outbreak.

R67 My Brother got then aged 14, he has no underlying health condition.

.fixed it R68

by Anonymousreply 69January 13, 2022 3:22 AM

My mother and my sister both had it, but the VA refuses to give me the vaccine until I hit 70.

You know what I say about my VA health care: I don't pay anything for it, and I get exactly what I pay for.

by Anonymousreply 70January 13, 2022 3:31 AM

Shingles? Shweetie I’ve been shingle for agesh, ever shince that bashtard David Gesht tricked me into marrying him! Honey it’sh GREAT to be shingle!

by Anonymousreply 71January 13, 2022 3:31 AM

Don’t you have Medicare, R70?

by Anonymousreply 72January 13, 2022 3:41 AM

I'm only 63.

by Anonymousreply 73January 13, 2022 3:43 AM

OP Sonny Bono who was a joke for most of his career was treated like Winston Churchill when he died. He was the former Mayor of Palm Springs and a Republican Congressman in California's 44th district when he collided with a tree while cross country skiing. Similarly, Saget is being called 'legendary' by the media to justify all the space and time devoted to his death.

by Anonymousreply 74January 13, 2022 3:52 AM

Here's some photos

I have a friend who got shingles when he was in his mid 60s and he got a lot of nerve damage. He lived 10 more years, but the quality of his life was really affected by shingles.

by Anonymousreply 75January 13, 2022 3:52 AM

photos

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by Anonymousreply 76January 13, 2022 3:52 AM

[quote]If you have herpes or a compromised immune system can you get it before age 50?

I don't know, but it probably varies according to your insurance company/policy. Call them up and ask. Ask if the dr can request an override/exemption for you

by Anonymousreply 77January 13, 2022 3:54 AM

They don't care about your medical records. I thought that as well, but I was told they assume everyone over a certain age has had the pox and they just give it to you. I am assuming they also don't care if younger generations had the pox or not. It can't hurt you to get it even if you've never had chicken pox, so they give it to you.

Why would you not get it? What are you worried about?

by Anonymousreply 78January 13, 2022 5:10 AM

Whoring around much, OP?

by Anonymousreply 79January 13, 2022 5:25 AM

It runs in families, right? I just turned 50 and didn’t get it because no one in my family has had it.

by Anonymousreply 80January 13, 2022 5:47 AM

You need an antiviral immediately. Valacyclovir is the generic medicine that will fight it. Get that asap or you will have this for months or a year!

by Anonymousreply 81January 13, 2022 5:56 AM

Yes, there seems to be an increased risk if there is a positive family history. It seems to involve the more severe and recurring outbreaks.

However, that is just one risk factor.

by Anonymousreply 82January 13, 2022 6:01 AM

[quote] the VA refuses to give me the vaccine until I hit 70.

That’s appalling. Can you pay for it out of pocket somehow?

If you did a Go Fund Me, I’d pitch in. I sometimes wish we didn’t have to be anonymous here.

by Anonymousreply 83January 15, 2022 4:21 PM

r80 well, first you had to have had chickenpox as a kid. It is that virus. It stays dormant in your system and can get reactivated. the pain part is it "crawling" up your nerve endings to the surface.

by Anonymousreply 84January 15, 2022 6:15 PM
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