RIP, Sally
Sally Ann Howes from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang is dead to me!
by Anonymous | reply 136 | February 8, 2022 8:46 PM |
She got a lot of dick in her time.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | December 22, 2021 1:19 AM |
R1, leave it to the datalounge to memorialize her that way....
by Anonymous | reply 2 | December 22, 2021 1:24 AM |
What of it, R2?
She had a great chitty but she couldn't bang forever.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | December 22, 2021 1:27 AM |
I thought she was lovely and I loved CCBB . That being said,Im sick to death of you bitches linking to shit that you have to sign up for to see. Im not giving untold sites my name and email .I get enough shit as it is.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | December 22, 2021 1:30 AM |
R4 - I usually feel that way, but in OP's defense, this news broke fairly recently and there aren't a ton of obits published yet. The Times seemed to be ahead of a lot of others.
Anyway, if you've never seen Sally Ann in NY City Opera's production of Sondheim's A Little Night Music, get thee to YouTube. She is FABULOUS as Desiree -- the whole cast is wonderful, really.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | December 22, 2021 1:47 AM |
lucky they got ALNMusic on tape / there isn't a lot of footage of her considering all her credits. She was of another era / sad to see them go
by Anonymous | reply 7 | December 22, 2021 2:40 AM |
My brother maintained that Baroness Bomburst had a better body but Truly Scrumptious premiering to be a wind up doll was one of the hottest things of all time.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | December 22, 2021 2:45 AM |
I got to attend dress rehearsal for The Dead at the Ahmanson years ago, and she was in the cast. She was a terrific stage actress.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | December 22, 2021 2:48 AM |
It must have frustrated her that Julie Andrews had such an amazing career....... and Sally would have always been second choice for the same roles...... I wonder why she basically dropped film after CCBB?
by Anonymous | reply 11 | December 22, 2021 2:55 AM |
She's truly deceased.
Truly, truly deceased.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | December 22, 2021 3:12 AM |
I liked her as a child actress in the British horror film Dead of Night
by Anonymous | reply 14 | December 22, 2021 3:26 AM |
Yes, R14 she was fresh and doe-eyed. Like another Jean Simmons.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | December 22, 2021 3:29 AM |
R11 could it have been Pauline Kael? in her review of CCBB she said Howes has that cold princess look that moviemakers have always foisted upon us ...
by Anonymous | reply 16 | December 22, 2021 3:34 AM |
[quote] It is with deep sorrow that we announce the death of Sally Ann Howes of West Palm Beach, Florida, who passed away on December 19, 2021, at the age of 91, leaving to mourn family and friends. You can send your sympathy in the guestbook provided and share it with the family. You may also light a candle in honor of Sally Ann Howes. Sally Ann Howes; July 20, 1930 - December 19, 2021
by Anonymous | reply 17 | December 22, 2021 3:35 AM |
There's a nice scene in Belfast (2021) where the family goes to the movies to see CCBB and sing along with the title tune.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | December 22, 2021 3:35 AM |
She was Truly Scrumptious
by Anonymous | reply 20 | December 22, 2021 3:54 AM |
Howes goes through the romantic motions with Van Dyke and the maternal ones with the kids, but there is no real sentiment between players -VARIETY
by Anonymous | reply 21 | December 22, 2021 4:01 AM |
<- it's a kiddie movie- did they want them to dry-hump?
by Anonymous | reply 22 | December 22, 2021 4:03 AM |
R21 She was a singer more than an actress.
You can't expect a refined Englishwoman to have "real sentiment" towards a gurning American and his brand of simplistic slapstick.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | December 22, 2021 4:14 AM |
R24 address your concerns to VARIETY
by Anonymous | reply 25 | December 22, 2021 4:22 AM |
Ugly Anscher must be suicidal
by Anonymous | reply 26 | December 22, 2021 4:34 AM |
She wasn't half as photgenic as Jean Simmons.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | December 22, 2021 5:17 AM |
*photogenic
by Anonymous | reply 28 | December 22, 2021 5:17 AM |
She was briefly engaged to DL fave Jeffrey Hunter. I wonder why they didn't make it down the aisle.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | December 22, 2021 5:19 AM |
Like Barbara Cook, she seemed to grow into her eyes - a more attractive woman in middle age than in her ingenue years.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | December 22, 2021 5:20 AM |
^
Why? How?
I know he went to Britain to make that weird broken-backed film called 'Sailor of the King' in 1953.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | December 22, 2021 5:23 AM |
She's very unmemorable in CCBB except for her beautiful singing voice.
The only person at all who gives a memorable performance in CCBB, as Pauline Kael pointed out, is Anna Quayne as the Baroness.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | December 22, 2021 5:23 AM |
No. Hunter and Howes were engaged in the late 1960s.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | December 22, 2021 5:25 AM |
[quote]The only person at all who gives a memorable performance in CCBB, as Pauline Kael pointed out, is Anna Quayne as the Baroness.
*Quayle*
by Anonymous | reply 35 | December 22, 2021 5:38 AM |
R22 the pic at R35 looks more kinky than kiddie
by Anonymous | reply 37 | December 22, 2021 6:09 AM |
Her affair with Steve Lawrence during the Broadway run of What Makes Sammy Run? was recently discussed on DL.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | December 22, 2021 6:43 AM |
"The only person at all who gives a memorable performance in CCBB is Anna Quayne as the Baroness."
Fuck off, BITCH!!!!!
by Anonymous | reply 39 | December 22, 2021 7:05 AM |
Did she linger, or did she die tout suite?
by Anonymous | reply 40 | December 22, 2021 8:42 AM |
It seems her first husband was somebody called 'Maxwell Coker' was a dancer in 'Oklahoma' on Broadway in the 40s.
Her second was Richard Adler who co-wrote 'The Pajama Game' and 'Damn Yankees'. He staged the JFK birthday at Madison Square Garden in '62 that included Marilyn Monroe. And a show called 'A Mother's Kisses' featured Bea Arthur and Bernadette Peters which closed before getting to Broadway.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | December 22, 2021 9:24 AM |
She had a wonderfully clear soprano voice back in 1960.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | December 22, 2021 10:07 AM |
r23 - done in one take
by Anonymous | reply 43 | December 22, 2021 10:34 AM |
I didn't know she was so accomplished.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | December 22, 2021 1:09 PM |
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by Anonymous | reply 45 | December 22, 2021 1:10 PM |
Sally Ann Howes delivered a haunting rendition of Toyland on album seven of The Great Songs of Christmas by Great Artists of Our Time, which was produced for Goodyear by Columbia Special Products. Her descant starting at about 01:15 always seemed very ethereal to me. (P.S. - I have no idea who the family is in this video but the audio is crystal clear.)
by Anonymous | reply 46 | December 22, 2021 1:11 PM |
I never cared for CCBB outside of the music box scene, which has a pathos to it that surpasses the rest of the film.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | December 22, 2021 1:13 PM |
Was Barbara Windsor's husband some sort of "gay walker"?
by Anonymous | reply 48 | December 22, 2021 1:36 PM |
[quote]I never cared for CCBB outside of the music box scene, which has a pathos to it that surpasses the rest of the film.
you now she did it in ONE TAKE?
by Anonymous | reply 49 | December 22, 2021 2:03 PM |
*know, not now
[quote]The latter song was memorably performed as she danced on a music box. And Howes told US TV show host and actress Rosie O'Donnell she was proud to have got it down in one take, especially as she had lied about being able to dance in order to get the role.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | December 22, 2021 2:17 PM |
She was Scrumptious, Truly.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | December 22, 2021 2:52 PM |
R49, yes I was aware of that, thanks.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | December 22, 2021 3:25 PM |
Really, r43? That's *very* impressive to get that on the first take. I wonder how many hours of rehearsal went into it.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | December 22, 2021 4:31 PM |
Sally Ann Howes would probably find the "dead to me" heading in her thread distasteful.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | December 22, 2021 4:34 PM |
She was a handsy, kneesy gal.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | December 22, 2021 4:36 PM |
She came across as very jokey and fun in latter day interviews, usually re Chitty.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | December 22, 2021 4:39 PM |
R50 At first glance I thought that was Jamie Donnelly
by Anonymous | reply 59 | December 22, 2021 5:09 PM |
Howe appeared in a well-regarded supernatural film Dead of Night (1945) An omnibus film with 5 supernatural tales that surely influenced the Amicus films of the 60s/70s. as well as the opening scene of Bergman's Wild Strawberries (1959) and Magic (1978) with Anthony Hopkins
by Anonymous | reply 60 | December 22, 2021 5:12 PM |
[quote] Sally Ann Howes would probably find the "dead to me" heading in her thread distasteful.
Yes, R55, and the first half-dozen posts are foul-mouthed and disrespectful.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | December 22, 2021 10:06 PM |
She had a sense of humor, I doubt she would care about the "dead to me" headline (which we use for all dead celebrities.....you must be a newbie)
by Anonymous | reply 62 | December 22, 2021 10:22 PM |
[quote] Sally Ann Howes would probably find the "dead to me" heading in her thread distasteful.
Seeing as she's dead, that doesn't matter, does it?
by Anonymous | reply 63 | December 23, 2021 12:12 AM |
Truly Scrumptious dead!
I'm devastated, the world is indeed ending
by Anonymous | reply 64 | December 23, 2021 4:39 AM |
The actress-singer is dead! (With apologies to Paul Shaffer. Probably no one else remembers that bit, on Letterman, though. "The actor-singer is dead!")
[quote]An omnibus film with 5 supernatural tales that surely influenced the Amicus films of the 60s/70s. as well as the opening scene of Bergman's Wild Strawberries (1959) and Magic (1978) with Anthony Hopkins
As well as the comedy, Knock On Wood (1954) in which Danny Kaye is a ventriloquist whose dummy starts "saying" rude things and seems to be taking over. And The Dummy, an episode of The Twilight Zone, with Cliff Robertson.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | December 23, 2021 1:35 PM |
She looks quite beautiful in her main picture on Wikipedia.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | December 23, 2021 2:51 PM |
R6 It's hard to hear her with that enormous hyper-active orchestra drowning out her words and emotions.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | December 23, 2021 9:25 PM |
Really, no one got my tout suite joke? That was pure gold!
by Anonymous | reply 69 | December 23, 2021 9:47 PM |
[quote] She had a sense of humor
Then she would probably find the whole "dead to me" thing stupid and unfunny as well.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | December 23, 2021 10:12 PM |
Well, she found her marriage vows stupid and funny as hell.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | December 23, 2021 10:15 PM |
R71, Whore!
by Anonymous | reply 72 | December 24, 2021 1:59 AM |
Post No. #15
[quote] What's more Steve almost killed the goose that laid the golden egg (which isn't to say that he's a golden egg) by having an affair with Sally Ann Howes, who turned 83 two days ago. Evidently he has a thing for older women. Happy birthday, Sally!
by Anonymous | reply 73 | December 24, 2021 7:50 PM |
R73 Is that gossip true?
Was the English song bird fornicating with the sleazy Las Vegas lounge lizard?
by Anonymous | reply 74 | December 25, 2021 10:12 PM |
She was sucking on Steve's toot-sweet?
by Anonymous | reply 75 | December 25, 2021 10:22 PM |
I remember her.
They called her "Sally the Street Howe."
Nice girl.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | December 25, 2021 10:24 PM |
I’m so curious about how Jeffrey Hunter was in person. I can’t find any interviews with him on YouTube… he’s so mysterious. I can only see his film and tv performances. She seems lucky to have got him while he was still so handsome.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | December 25, 2021 10:41 PM |
^ He was very handsome but she was marvellously attractive at that time.
Her body thickened up in the late 60s after she played in that well-publicised kids movie with goofy Dick Vandike.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | December 25, 2021 10:44 PM |
R77, Jeffrey Hunter's widow was actress Emily McLaughlin, who elder gays will remember as nurse Jessie Brewer on "General Hospital".
by Anonymous | reply 79 | December 25, 2021 10:50 PM |
Even as a child I thought CCBB was terrible. I tried watching it recently and it was as terrible as I remembered. Helpmann is the only good thing in it. He is wonderful.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | December 25, 2021 11:03 PM |
[quote] CCBB was terrible
It is too long.
It was written by a sadist Ian Fleming and the adaption was by the ghoulish Ronal Dahl.
Ian Fleming stole ideas from others— such as The Brothers Grimm; the mechanical doll is stolen from The Tales of Hoffman.
IT stars the awful gurning Van Dyke who's like a replica of Danny Kaye.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | December 25, 2021 11:19 PM |
"Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang" and "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory"
1. Both written in 1964
2. Both written by creepy men
3. Both feature "Steampunk" factories which manufacture sugary food for children
by Anonymous | reply 82 | December 25, 2021 11:47 PM |
[quote]Even as a child I thought CCBB was terrible.
I ADORED it
I went back several times. Had the record. Knew all the songs. Had a toy Chitty.
I loved cars as a kiddie...so magical cars did it for me.
then came the Love Bug.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | December 26, 2021 2:02 AM |
I didn't get the point of why the back of the car resembled a boat.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | December 26, 2021 2:46 AM |
I hated CCBB too, and Willie Wonka. I loved Mary Poppins, that was more my speed, or something. I don't get the Dick Van Dyke hate ot the Danny Kaye hate, for that matter. They both made me laugh and, at least then, were considered classy, sophisticated comics, not the lower class, anything for a cheap laugh, type - and good actors.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | December 28, 2021 4:59 AM |
I'm in my 30s and you people really make me feel old. never heard of this fish!
by Anonymous | reply 86 | December 28, 2021 5:01 AM |
R86 Why does that make you feel old?
by Anonymous | reply 87 | December 28, 2021 5:06 AM |
If you use "fish," you're already committed to toxic old queendom.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | December 28, 2021 5:06 AM |
This thread has motivated me to seek out material on Sally Ann Howes and forced me to change my old perceptions.
My old perception was that Howes was the 'cheap version of Julie Andrews'.
But I'm now seeing that Howes's singing was just as good and strong as Andrews because she did lots more stage work.
Howes also married better by choosing established theatre people instead of poor Julie's decision to marry that awful L.A. slapstick vulgarian.
I've only seen the one picture of them together (but it's unfortunately unflattering to Sally).
by Anonymous | reply 89 | December 28, 2021 5:30 AM |
Well, lavender marriages are a more tricky prospect.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | December 28, 2021 5:34 AM |
[Quote] It must have frustrated her that Julie Andrews had such an amazing career....... and Sally would have always been second choice for the same roles...
Won't you spare a thought for Anne Rogers?
by Anonymous | reply 91 | December 28, 2021 5:34 AM |
It's too bad they had to be compared so much. Andrews had and has enormous charisma. She's a mediocre actress (ever see the awful TV version of On Golden Pond with Christopher Plummer in which they were both bad? It was quickly forgotten). But wonderful talent in other areas. Howes probably was great on stage but pales on screen. Not bad, quite nice, but no big star quality.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | December 28, 2021 5:37 AM |
^ Wow, that song 'Free Again' was so dramatic. But she retained perfect diction while entering into an operatic upper register.
I'd love to know what microphones they were using; I think of Crosby needing close microphones but Sally obviously didn't need that much amplification.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | December 28, 2021 7:35 AM |
[quote]I didn't get the point of why the back of the car resembled a boat.
Obviously.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | December 29, 2021 7:10 PM |
R89 RIght you are..... I think she made a very smart decision to focus on live theatre from the 60s on... unfortunate she didn't have one signature comeback role.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | December 29, 2021 7:17 PM |
Well Julie's film choices quickly turned disastrous and then she married Edwards which was another disastrous decision. After those rotten movies she made like Star! and Lili she should have returned to the stage while her voice was reaching its maturity. Instead she was just spinning wheels and probably could have done the original cast of Night Music instead of making crap like Tamarind Seed. Prince wanted very much to work with her.
She Loves Me with Van Dyke was one of the great might have beens. They could have done it on Broadway. There was still a huge audience for them in the theater.
I like Van Dyke and Kaye too. But what a nightmare Kaye was while trying to make himself out to be a great humanitarian. I did see him in Two By Two and he was a lot of fun in an awful show. He made it all about him and the audience was fine with that.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | December 29, 2021 7:48 PM |
I think this tune is taken from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | January 4, 2022 11:46 PM |
^ That's The Wizard of Oz. Emerald City sequence. Leave your gay card, get out and don't look back or you'll be turned into a pillar nacreous permacum.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | January 5, 2022 1:56 AM |
^I like emerald.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | January 5, 2022 2:20 AM |
[quote]Prince wanted very much to work with her.
She would have been great in Purple Rain.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | January 6, 2022 2:42 PM |
Countess Malcolm is too small a role for Julie Andrews. And she is not a Desiree.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | January 6, 2022 2:52 PM |
Some English actors project too much Englishness and it makes them unlikely American movie stars or international movie stars. I think Sally Ann Howes was one of these, Julie Andrews was not. But I don't know if I can explain what I mean. There are just certain English performers in all fields that don't translate as well to American tastes as others. They tend to register best in English movies. TV, music vs international. They remain sort of provincial. Celia Johnson vs. Deborah Kerr, for ex.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | January 6, 2022 3:20 PM |
Johnson was plain. That alone made her not a leading lady to Hollywood.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | January 6, 2022 3:22 PM |
Sally Ann Howes was competent but unexciting. There was nothing distinctive about her.
by Anonymous | reply 106 | January 6, 2022 3:23 PM |
R104, You mean, like Tessie O'Shea?
by Anonymous | reply 107 | January 6, 2022 3:30 PM |
It's hard to say about Johnson. Brief Encounter was a big success in the states and she was a great actress. I believe she had very little interest in spending much time in the US. She would rather spend time in her garden.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | January 6, 2022 4:10 PM |
[quote] Johnson was plain. That alone made her not a leading lady to Hollywood.
Yes, she had a certain mole-eyed quality. But I reckon she was happy to be a housewife to her distinguished husband.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | January 6, 2022 10:50 PM |
I used to live with a man who told me he had singing lessons from Sally Ann Howes. Now that would’ve been in London in the 1980s.
I’m not sure how much he would’ve learned seeing as how he was only a light tenor suitable for Rogers and Hammerstein and she was obviously a full-throated operatic soprano.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | January 7, 2022 12:06 AM |
Why not? She was a light soprano suitable for Broadway musicals.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | January 7, 2022 4:11 AM |
[Quote] Tenzie, Montreal, 2 days ago Two confirmed bachelors.
Only 140 up votes. People see what they want to see.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | January 7, 2022 4:25 AM |
Maybe Celia Johnson was a bad example but there are others, from Anna Neagle, Phyllis Calvert, Margaret Lockwood and Gracie Fields in the 40s, to Diana Wynyard in the 30s and Diana Dors in the 50s, who actually tried Hollywood with varying degrees of success/failure.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | January 8, 2022 3:22 AM |
Don't ask. I don't know her.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | January 8, 2022 4:12 AM |
R113 Did Margaret Lockwood do anything in the USA?
by Anonymous | reply 115 | January 8, 2022 5:04 AM |
R115 She was in Susannah Of The Mounties with Shirley Temple, and some other stuff for Fox.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | January 8, 2022 10:17 PM |
She was said to have slept with all her leading men
by Anonymous | reply 118 | February 5, 2022 8:27 PM |
And it was said that R118 attempted to seduce a different man every day.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | February 5, 2022 9:00 PM |
R118, She was a slut.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | February 5, 2022 10:42 PM |
R118 is a slut.
by Anonymous | reply 121 | February 5, 2022 10:45 PM |
[quote]Sally Ann Howes from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang is dead to me!
Oh, at this point who isn't?
by Anonymous | reply 122 | February 5, 2022 10:45 PM |
She was on Mission:Impossible last week as...Beth.
by Anonymous | reply 123 | February 5, 2022 10:48 PM |
R118 Dick Van Dyke?
by Anonymous | reply 124 | February 5, 2022 10:48 PM |
R123 Wow, she's wearing some big hair there.
I guess some groomer told her she needed to distract the viewers from her forthright (if not masculine) jawline.
by Anonymous | reply 125 | February 5, 2022 10:58 PM |
[quote]She was said to have slept with all her leading men.
At the same time?
by Anonymous | reply 126 | February 5, 2022 11:27 PM |
[quote] She was said to have slept with all her leading men
Fools have said that people they don't know slept with all their leading men.
by Anonymous | reply 127 | February 5, 2022 11:34 PM |
R117 The pianist and Sally were struggling throughout that rendition.
by Anonymous | reply 128 | February 5, 2022 11:39 PM |
Peter Lupus @R123 yum!
by Anonymous | reply 129 | February 6, 2022 1:15 AM |
Julie Andrews slept with all her leading men too including Rex Harrison and Duane Chase.
by Anonymous | reply 132 | February 6, 2022 9:07 AM |
R132, Even Rock Hudson?
by Anonymous | reply 133 | February 6, 2022 9:29 AM |
No he slept with Blake. How do you think he got the part?
by Anonymous | reply 134 | February 6, 2022 10:57 AM |
She died almost 2 months ago. Let the bitch rest in peace already.
by Anonymous | reply 135 | February 8, 2022 4:21 PM |
R116 I hadn't realised Margaret Lockwood made two US movies in 1939. And I thought I was an expert of British stars.
I guess she was called over after her highly entertaining movie 'Lady Vanishes'. And of course Hitchcock was lured over just afterwards.
by Anonymous | reply 136 | February 8, 2022 8:46 PM |