Why is this bitch regarded as a joke?
Her voice is pretty fucking fantastic.
Why is this bitch regarded as a joke?
Her voice is pretty fucking fantastic.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||08/12/2013|
Who says she's regarded as a joke?
|by Anonymous||reply 1||07/22/2013|
[quote]regarded as a joke
Link please. Who is making this "regarded as a joke" claim?
|by Anonymous||reply 2||07/22/2013|
You're a joke for suggestion she is a joke!
|by Anonymous||reply 3||07/22/2013|
Steve and Eydie were great entertainers. They were never a joke. They did show up frequently and became somewhat predictable. For awhile they were like the fat lady, it ain't over until Steve and Eydie sing.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||07/22/2013|
Eydie had an incredibly clear voice and great range.
She retired in 2009, but husband Steve Lawrence still performs alone.
Eydie's solo album "Don't Go to Strangers" is stunning.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||07/22/2013|
Well, I remember this one time when she was a joke...
|by Anonymous||reply 6||07/22/2013|
Some people regard her as a joke because she has headlined in Las Vegas, the U.S. capital of bad taste, for many years.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||07/22/2013|
She definitely had a unique voice that was all hers. I used to like them on the Carol Burnett Show. One time Steve was in a skit and he had swim trunks on, he leaned back and his ball sack was quite visible.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||07/22/2013|
About 12 years ago, I saw Steve & Eydie live on stage. They were extremely entertaining. His voice was in better shape than hers, but she was still good. What amazed me were the DIRTY JOKES they told! Very funny, but it was like your parents up there telling them
|by Anonymous||reply 9||07/22/2013|
Didn't someone say not to long ago that she has some illness? Does anyone know anything about that?
|by Anonymous||reply 10||07/22/2013|
She had one of the most fantastic voices ever. Her interpretation of music and lyrics could not be surpassed. And her singing in Spanish was very romantic and beautiful. No joke....a singing goddess in her prime.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||07/22/2013|
She was a bit Bronxy at times, but even at that had more class than someone who'd call a woman a bitch while demanding respect for her.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||07/22/2013|
In my late teens I had Eydie records while my friends were listening to the Beetles.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||07/22/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 15||07/22/2013|
What's more Steve almost killed the goose that laid the golden egg (which isn't to say that he's a golden egg) by having an affair with Sally Ann Howes, who turned 83 two days ago. Evidently he has a thing for older women. Happy birthday, Sally!
|by Anonymous||reply 16||07/22/2013|
this is the shit
|by Anonymous||reply 17||07/22/2013|
R17, you beat me to it. I love the arrangement, he sounds like a frog but she sounds radiant.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||07/22/2013|
Of course they were considered a joke. If you were listening to the Rolling Stones, the Beatles, or whatever rock and roll, they were the epitome glitzy, plastic culture.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||07/22/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 20||07/22/2013|
Was Sally Ann Always fucking her leading men? She had an affair with Terry Carter from Kwamina, too.
p.s. Steve is 78, not that much younger than her.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||07/22/2013|
Eydie was no Connie Francis.
I think she should have done more solo work.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||07/22/2013|
Eydie had an unbelievable voice. But she and Steve became cheesy obnoxious Vegas mainstays too quickly, and embraced middle age too readily.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||07/22/2013|
She is a great muscian - fantastic time and natural swing. Also - in her day she was a real hottie. And as a spehardic jew - quite unique on the scene. The arrangements Don Costa did for her were Eydie specific and very hard for other singers to do well. Was she deep or complicated? Was she Streisand - no. But - she was delightful and always delivered.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||07/22/2013|
They don't make 'em like Eydie anymore.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||07/22/2013|
I was at a dance...
|by Anonymous||reply 26||07/22/2013|
I think she knocked it out of the park with her rendition of "What Did I Have"...learned to appreciate the rest of her work, but love this...
|by Anonymous||reply 27||07/22/2013|
R19, in the sixties, adults were not listening to The Beatles or the Rolling Stones. They were listening to Herb Alpert & the TJB, Stan Getz, Hello Dolly, Camelot, Barbra Streisand, and, yes, Steve & Eydie.
"She was a bit Bronxy at times"
Eydie Gorme: Edith Garmezano from the GCC, Bronx
Steve Lawrence: Sidney Liebowitz from Brooklyn (don't know where in Brklyn)
|by Anonymous||reply 28||07/22/2013|
The end is a killer:
|by Anonymous||reply 29||07/22/2013|
Eydie had a lot of talent, too little taste
|by Anonymous||reply 30||07/22/2013|
[quote]Why is this bitch regarded as a joke?
I think you can blame it on the bossa nova, OP.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||07/22/2013|
Eydie Gorme and Rosemary Clooney were both born in 1928. Clooney changed with the time, singing more jazz, working with the best arrangers and hiring the top musicians available. She also booked concerts in the most respected venues, like Carnegie Hall & continued to release albums every year until she died.
Eydie Gorme had a better voice at least at the end of her career, but made few of the adjustments Clooney did. Also, Rosie Clooney had a famous nephew, George, which helped a little in reaching a younger audience...or at least kept her name in newspapers/Internet.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||07/22/2013|
R25 The definitive version of that song.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||07/22/2013|
She was a joke for the way she said Oliver.."Olivah"
|by Anonymous||reply 34||07/22/2013|
I love her version of 'Johnny One Note'.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||07/22/2013|
I swear I'll cut anybody who disses Eydie.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||07/22/2013|
Me too. Fuck 'em.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||07/22/2013|
Ah, so here's the yearly DL Eydie Gorme thead.
Can we now argue about whether or not Eydie turned down Funny Girl on Broadway before it was offered to Barbra?
|by Anonymous||reply 38||07/22/2013|
Eydie Gorme is so talented, there should be a quarterly Eydie Gorme thread!
|by Anonymous||reply 39||07/22/2013|
It was Streisand from the start.
Gorme was approached if she wanted to "replace" Streisand after Barbra left, but she refused.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||07/22/2013|
I agree, r39. Gorme is shamefully neglected. One of the greatest female singers.
She holds that 'money note' at r35's longer than even Garland.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||07/22/2013|
"It was Streisand from the start."
Not even close.
[quote]Ray Stark had commissioned an authorized biography of Brice, based on taped recollections she had dictated, but was unhappy with the result. It eventually cost him $50,000 to stop publication of The Fabulous Fanny, as it had been titled by the author. Stark then turned to Ben Hecht to write the screenplay for a biopic, but neither Hecht nor the ten writers who succeeded him were able to produce a version that satisfied Stark. Finally, Isobel Lennart submitted My Man, which pleased both Stark and Columbia Pictures executives, who offered Stark $400,000 plus a percentage of the gross for the property.
[quote]After reading the screenplay, Mary Martin contacted Stark and proposed it be adapted for a stage musical. Stark discussed the possibility with producer David Merrick, who suggested Jule Styne and Stephen Sondheim compose the score. Sondheim told Styne, "I don't want to do the life of Fanny Brice with Mary Martin. She's not Jewish. You need someone ethnic for the part." Shortly after, Martin lost interest in the project and backed out.
[quote]Merrick discussed the project with Jerome Robbins, who gave the screenplay to Anne Bancroft. She agreed to play Brice if she could handle the score. Merrick suggested Styne collaborate with Dorothy Fields, but the composer was not interested. He went to Palm Beach, Florida for a month and composed music he thought Bancroft would be able to sing. While he was there, he met Bob Merrill, and he played the five melodies he already had written for him. Merrill agreed to write lyrics for them; these included "Who Are You Now?" and "The Music That Makes Me Dance." Styne was happy with the results and the two men completed the rest of the score, then flew to Los Angeles to play it for Stark, Robbins, and Bancroft, who was at odds with Merrill because of a fight the two had years before. She listened to the score, then stated, "I want no part of this. It's not for me."
[quote]With Bancroft out of the picture, Eydie Gormé was considered, but she agreed to play Brice only if her husband Steve Lawrence was cast as Nick Arnstein. Since they thought he was wrong for the role, Stark and Robbins approached Carol Burnett, who said, "I'd love to do it but what you need is a Jewish girl." With options running out, Styne thought Barbra Streisand, whom he remembered from I Can Get It for You Wholesale, would be perfect. She was performing at the Bon Soir in Greenwich Village and Styne urged Robbins to see her. He was impressed and asked her to audition. Styne later recalled, "She looked awful ... All her clothes were out of thrift shops. I saw Fran Stark staring at her, obvious distaste on her face." Despite his wife's objections, Stark hired Streisand on the spot.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||07/23/2013|
Gormé and Lawrence had two sons, David, a composer, and Michael, who died suddenly from ventricular fibrillation resulting from an undiagnosed heart condition in 1986, at the age of 23. Michael was an assistant editor for a television show at the time of his death and was apparently healthy despite a previous diagnosis of slight arrhythmia.
Gormé and Lawrence were in Atlanta, Georgia at the time of his death, having performed at the Fox Theater the night before. Upon learning of the tragedy, Frank Sinatra, a friend, sent his private plane to pick up the couple so that they could fly to New York to meet their other son, David, who was attending school at the time. Following their son's death, the couple took a year off before touring again.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||07/23/2013|
r42: "Eydie Gorme was considered" is not even close to being offered the role and a contract to play Fanny Brice in Funny Girl.
But then, I think we have this debate with each other every year on the new Eydie thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||07/23/2013|
Seems that Gorme's recordings of "If He Walked into My Life" and "What Did I Have I Don't Have" were shortly after Lawrence's affair with Howes.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||07/23/2013|
R45 - I guess that explains why she sang the sh*t out of them, and everything else on her "Don't Go To Strangers" LP. Linda Ronstadt did a note-by-note imitation of Eydie's "What's New." In liner notes for Judy Garland boxset, Aretha Franklin said she thought Eydie was a very underrated vocalist.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||07/23/2013|
Eydie also sang the theme tune to the notorious Lucy bomb "Life With Lucy"
|by Anonymous||reply 47||07/23/2013|
Certainly no joke, OP, as others have said. She had one of the best voices around for quite a few years. I always loved her.
Below is one of the best she did: "What Did I Have I Don't Have Now?"
|by Anonymous||reply 48||07/23/2013|
Eydie and Neil Sedaka are cousins, but I don't know if they've ever collaborated musically.
Here's a vintage photo of them at an event.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||07/23/2013|
"What's more Steve almost killed the goose that laid the golden egg (which isn't to say that he's a golden egg) by having an affair with Sally Ann Howes..."
I did everything I could to keep Steve from straying. I even renamed my vagina 'Eaty Gourmet', just for him.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||07/23/2013|
Does that mean Sedaka is a Sephardic Jewish name?
Now that I think of it, it doesn't sound Italian or (Christian) Spanish.
It was probably originally spelled something like Tzedaka.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||07/23/2013|
Not a bitch. And not stupid. A fabulous voice and style from a different time, that's all.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||07/23/2013|
Steve & Eydie were regular players on the game show "Tattletales", hosted by Miss Bert Convy.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||07/23/2013|
Eydie was a whiz on Password too. She graduated from HS at age 15.
To the Rosemary Clooney lover:
Rosie had the personal drama to publicize her way into a singing career that was talking lyrics for the last decade of it. She was on a jazz label but she never sang jazz -- jazz labels are where old pop singers end up. Her personal challenges -- nervous breakdowns, drug addiction -- told in two autobiographies, helped her later career. Other than the death of her son, Eydie's life was much calmer.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||07/23/2013|
Eydie speaks fluent Italian and Spanish and used to work as a translator at the UN.
Her Spanish-language recordings made her a bigger star abroad than she was in the USA.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||07/23/2013|
I am a bit young for Eydie Gorme, but I saw this "boffo' medley on the Carol Burnett Show when I was a kid and was blown away by her.
They seem a bit like the Sweeney Sisters on SNL, except that Gorme shows almost everything she can do and that is a lot. Her impeccable timing and rhythm were mentioned upthread. She is musical to her bones. Her voice is pretty at times, blaring at others, her range and power and modulation are freakishly fine, without a sweat.
She does not have Streisand's very special tone yet her range is greater, she is more versatile and her diction is perfect without being ridiculous. It is a joy to listen to her sing, not an effort. She hits an E5 as easily as she softens and sensitizes her vocal tone. Very impressive.
Her husband, Vegas and sequins make her pretty square. But listen to her blend and timing with the limited Burnett in this complicated bit. Eydie zings right through it, with about 50 personal vocal highpoints. A master class in professionalism and talent. Her performance speaks for itself. Superb.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||07/23/2013|
Talented but too showbizzy.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||07/23/2013|
And she had a HUGE number #1 hit with Blame It on the Bossa Nova in the middle of Beatlemania!
And IIRC it quickly followed hubbie Steve's HUGE number #1 hit Go Away Little Girl.
Between the two of them, they were riding the heights of the pop charts for several months in the mid-60s.
So they were, at least briefly, very popular with teenagers, hard as it may be to believe now.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||07/23/2013|
I could not get over Eydie's pipes. Even as a kid, it was obvious she was special. In "What Did I Have" I remember just being stunned by her performance. She was definitely one of the greats. Never cared for the Bossa Nova. But I loved Go Away Little Girl by Stevie.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||07/23/2013|
Eydie lets loose on The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson from 1966. "I Wanna Be Around." She was such a master at building a song.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||07/23/2013|
I think one reason she never got the respect she deserved was because (GOLDEN RAINBOW aside) she and Steve were never NYC and Broadway - they were Vegas thru and thru. It's a snob thing - When they came to New York, they played (and sold-out) the 'declasse' Westbury Music Hall instead of Lincoln Center.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||07/23/2013|
[quote]When they came to New York, they played (and sold-out) the 'declasse' Westbury Music Hall instead of Lincoln Center.
Oh that's funny because at work today a woman was going on and on about seeing Neil Sedaka at the Westbury Music Fair. I remember going there to see The Association (!!) when I was a kid.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||07/23/2013|
All I know is that she sang "You Need Hands" to a bunch of Viet Nam amputees with no sense of irony whatsoever.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||07/23/2013|
Crystal Gayle is also an underrated vocalist.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||07/23/2013|
Rosemary Clooney had a nervous breakdown after Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June of 1968.
It's been rumored that they had an affair while she campaigned for him for POTUS that year.
She revealed in her book that husband Jose Ferrer cheated on her during their honeymoon with his mistress, for whom he'd booked a room in the same hotel.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||07/24/2013|
I've never, ever heard anyone who loves music regard Eydie Gorme as a joke. It's news to me, that anyone would think that way.
Performers act differently with different audiences. In Las Vegas, one sees and hears things that won't be seen in less sophisticated venues. That's why the cussing and other words is used in bigger cities.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||07/24/2013|
Sinatra said on numerous occasions that he believed Steve Lawrence and Vic Damone were better singers than himself.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||07/24/2013|
Where, r65? There was NO rumor of an "affair" between Rosemary Clooney and Bobby Kennedy, no way. You're nuts or one of her relatives.
In the late 1960s, Rosemary Clooney weight 175 pounds plus. She was suffering from mental illness long before Kennedy was assassinated. Even if she claimed differently.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||07/24/2013|
Nonsense . . . Rosemary Clooney was still thin and glamorous in the 1960's. It wasn't until many years later that she gained weight.
She campaigned for RFK vigorously in 1968 and looked fit and trim. It was his assassination that pushed her over the edge, mentally.
Here's an LP cover shot of her from the mid-1960's.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||07/24/2013|
Rosie looks overweight in this 1960s clip.
Anyway, it's ridiculous to suggest that Clooney's personal troubles made her more successful than Gorme in the 1980s and 1990s.
Clooney's success was due to the fact that her interpretive talent grew in her later years, even as her instrument declined.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||07/24/2013|
Clooney's affair was with Nelson Riddle.
And as for THIS:
That's why the cussing and other words is used in bigger cities
Heck, even us hayseeds knows how to talk gooder than that.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||07/26/2013|
Rosemary Clooney wasn't fit & trim since 1959.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||07/26/2013|
I love her Spanish album w/ Trio Los Panchos. My mom used to listen to it when I was a child....
|by Anonymous||reply 73||07/26/2013|
|by Anonymous||reply 74||08/10/2013|
If Steve & Eydie had done a few all-Sondheim concerts & albums they'd be much more highly regarded.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||08/10/2013|
Sad about Eydie. I'm glad they have her on Youtube now, all those old performances where she completely and totally brought the house down. How many performers can you name who had the power she had? Even as a little gay boy sitting on my mother's couch I knew she was special. A Star.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||08/11/2013|
I only knew her from her guest appearances on Carol Burnett and other variety shows. I knew she was great even when I was a kid.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||08/11/2013|
She was a great singer. But she let herself become a joke in the 1970s.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||08/11/2013|
I haven't seen her on any of the talk shows lately.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||08/11/2013|
I don't understand why she & Steve became a "joke". Were they just 'hopelessly square'?
|by Anonymous||reply 80||08/11/2013|
Tony Bennett, Peggy Lee and Rosemary Clooney adjusted to the times by hiring first-rate musicians and using new arrangements. They also played place like Carnegie Hall as well as nightclubs. And Bennett and Lee could sing in jazz style.
Steve & Eydie never changed their act. Worse they became totally associated with Vegas. Someone posted above about attempting Sondheim. That's what Peggy Lee did on occasion. It seemed like Steve and Eydie were stuck forever in the 60s and 70s.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||08/12/2013|
r81, I'm sure Steve and Eydie were crying all the way to the bank, and playing to bigger and more lucrative audiences than Lee and Clooney were in their old age. (Bennett effectively re-positioned himself in mainstream media, so maybe he was making more than Steve and Eydie. Mainstream media forgot Lee and Clooney.)
|by Anonymous||reply 82||08/12/2013|
Eydie is now touring with Frank, Dean, and Sammy. Red Buttons is opening for them.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||08/12/2013|