The long thread on "Ordinary People" made me think of this TV movie, since they both affected me as a young man. But I haven't seen it since it was first shown. Has anyone else seen it more recently? I'm putting both films on my "to watch" list. DToMD only has a 6.9 rating on IMDB, so maybe it's not quite as good as I remember it. Jim Carrey was really excellent in it, wasn't he?
"Doing Time on Maple Drive" (1992)
|by Anonymous||reply 53||November 28, 2021 2:00 AM|
Wow…I remember this as a young adult…and for the first time, I saw a movie that was sensitive, validating (mostly…no romantic reconnecting scene) and AIDS wasn’t the focus.
I also agree with OP, Jim’s performance was exceptional. He almost stole the main plot line.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||November 26, 2021 3:38 AM|
Like this movie, and the happy ending.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||November 26, 2021 3:40 AM|
You can't go wrong with Bibi Besch...
|by Anonymous||reply 3||November 26, 2021 3:43 AM|
OP- How good could it have been?
It was a Lifetime movie.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||November 26, 2021 3:44 AM|
I saw it many years after the fact and loved it. Really well done domestic drama. The homo was hot.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||November 26, 2021 3:44 AM|
Lori Loughlin omg
|by Anonymous||reply 6||November 26, 2021 3:59 AM|
R4, have you actually seen it, or just trolling?
|by Anonymous||reply 7||November 26, 2021 4:35 AM|
Jim Carrey is an underrated dramatic actor.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||November 26, 2021 4:40 AM|
I smell cookies.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||November 26, 2021 4:41 AM|
This movie was groundbreaking at the time. Jim Carrey did an excellent job, and William McNamara was hotness personified.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||November 26, 2021 4:42 AM|
Has Carrey ever shown peen?
|by Anonymous||reply 11||November 26, 2021 4:47 AM|
William McNamara was a preppy dream in this. His character comes out near the end of the piece to his best friend Andy, played by Philip Linton. Tragically, Linton died of AIDS while Maple Drive was still in post-production.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||November 26, 2021 4:50 AM|
I think in one of the Ace Ventura movies you can see a glimpse of it from behind dangling thru the legs. Vaguley remember that from my teen days scanning HBO for any nudity.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||November 26, 2021 4:55 AM|
This is the first gay character I remember on TV
|by Anonymous||reply 14||November 26, 2021 5:16 AM|
It was directed by Ken Olin, who also used to be sizzling hot.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||November 26, 2021 5:20 AM|
McNamara was great. Carey I remember being sort of overwrought and trying to hard to be serious.
It was an important movie since it wasn't about AIDS or gays suffering. James B. Sikking as the tough father (he's also in Ordinary People as the father's business partner) is great as the stern father who accepts the gay son.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||November 26, 2021 5:27 AM|
An old thread for those interested
|by Anonymous||reply 17||November 26, 2021 5:43 AM|
R11 Very briefly in "All In Good Taste" (1983).
|by Anonymous||reply 18||November 26, 2021 5:59 AM|
R4 It wasn't a Lifetime movie. It was made by 20th Century and shown first on the Fox Network (not the cable news one, though, obviously).
|by Anonymous||reply 19||November 26, 2021 6:21 AM|
This movie was wonderful. I've watched occasional bits and pieces when it's re-run and think it still holds up. But - growing up gay in the 90s probably plays a big role in my affection for the movie. First of all, William McNamara was gorgeous back then and I was totally in love with him, even before seeing this. But everyone in the cast was great, including Lori Laughlin and Doogie Howser's dad. Also a wonderful aspect - that the mom remained a unforgiving bitch and didn't have a character redemption or "resolution". It was much more honest than what you'd expect from tv movies of the time. It was released on DVD and seems to retain a cult following.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||November 26, 2021 1:54 PM|
Loves this movie back in the day. In retrospect it had kind of an Updike/Cheever vibe which is turf Olin also explored as an actor on “thirtysomething.”
Didn’t William McNamara go on to have major substance abuse problems? I remember he was also good/creepy as a serial killer in that old Sigourney Weaver/Holly Hunter thriller “Copycat.”
|by Anonymous||reply 21||November 26, 2021 2:47 PM|
r18 Great find! Thank you.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||November 26, 2021 4:14 PM|
Bibi Besch got an Emmy nomination for her performance.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||November 26, 2021 4:17 PM|
This was the very first gay movie I ever saw.
I remember thinking Jim Carey was a solid dramatic actor.
I had a crush on William McNamara as a kid.
It really did help me in some weird way, especially since every movie I'd encounter after it was depressing as fuck for about a decade.
[quote]It was a Lifetime movie.
It aired on Fox which is why I could watch it and no one would think it was weird.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||November 26, 2021 5:55 PM|
It's actually on YouTube. I'm into it about 15 minutes and not liking it as much as I remembered. But William McNamara sure is hot!
|by Anonymous||reply 25||November 26, 2021 7:39 PM|
Of course Jim Carrey was great in this film. He was playing against type.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||November 26, 2021 7:43 PM|
Billy McNamara was hot as fuckin shit in his day. I remember his perfect ass in Chasers. One of the reasons I moved to LA was I hoped to meet him.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||November 26, 2021 7:45 PM|
Bibi Besch was terrific in everything, even her throwaway scene in the chronic fatigue syndrome episode of Golden Girls.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||November 26, 2021 7:48 PM|
Jim Carrey showed his dick in a movie all the way back in 1983?!
|by Anonymous||reply 29||November 26, 2021 7:50 PM|
R29 Yes, and it was only his second role. He was only 21 when he did that movie.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||November 26, 2021 9:00 PM|
Wow, William McNamara has never been married? Just a fiancee, according to IMDB. What do we know? What's the story?
|by Anonymous||reply 31||November 26, 2021 9:14 PM|
McNamara is straight, and he usually plays aggressively straight/alpha male roles. Nothing to see here. He simply played against type in Doing Time on Maple Drive.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||November 26, 2021 9:17 PM|
I just rewatched the entire movie again at R25’s link. It’s still such great television. I like how all of the characters have a “moment” in the film. Everyone of them shines in their part.
I can remember when this came out. I’m William McNamara’s age so I could really relate to everything at the time. Celebrities were dropping like flies in 1992 from AIDS. I remember opening up the newspaper and reading about Robert Reed and David Oliver (A Year in the Life) dying. Neither was openly gay. People were more ignorant then and anti-gay attitudes were largely associated to the development of AIDS.
McNamara is still working regularly, but isn’t getting quality scripts anymore which is too bad.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||November 26, 2021 9:35 PM|
[quote]You can't go wrong with Bibi Besch...
Bibi Besch playing the Mother we all prayed we didn't have.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||November 26, 2021 10:12 PM|
[quote]Bibi Besch playing the Mother we all prayed we didn't have.
But was she good because she was playing against type?
|by Anonymous||reply 35||November 26, 2021 10:49 PM|
Bibi Besch almost always played cold, icy, WASPy bitches, all the way to her time on THE Secret Storm. Playing a warm, fuzzy character would've been against type.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||November 26, 2021 10:52 PM|
Besch had a much more sympathetic role two years earlier in TREMORS. Her scene starts at 2:00.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||November 26, 2021 11:04 PM|
William McNamara told a story in an interview I can't find now where he tried Viagra and it wouldn't go down and he had to go to the ER and they gave him a shot in his dick to relieve it.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||November 26, 2021 11:18 PM|
I read "Dong Time on Maple Drive."
|by Anonymous||reply 39||November 27, 2021 12:47 AM|
Not only did William McNamara show his nice ass in Chasers, but he also showed a little bit of peen.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||November 27, 2021 6:04 AM|
Are you saying his peen is small, or we only got a short glimpse R40?
|by Anonymous||reply 41||November 27, 2021 9:47 AM|
[quote] William McNamara was gorgeous back then and I was totally in love with him,
Me too! He was beyond beautiful.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||November 27, 2021 10:21 AM|
Is he a hot zaddy today or did he not hold up?
|by Anonymous||reply 43||November 27, 2021 4:40 PM|
He's unrecognizable to me now. I saw him in a Lifetime movie a few years ago in which he played a creepy stepfather and I had no idea I was watching the closeted son from Maple Drive. It's not just that he's older because people can age and still look like themselves. McNamara looks like a totally different person now.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||November 27, 2021 5:01 PM|
I found him a bit colorless. He was fine in the role but he didn’t do enough with the role to make him stand out.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||November 27, 2021 5:24 PM|
What do you all think happened to the characters after? I’m thinking Matt started living his best life and got a steady partner. The father and the mother… I’m thinking they maybe divorced. I almost got the impression the father was a little envious of the freedom his son now had not being tied down in a marriage. It couldn’t have been any fun after finding out that your wife is a cold hard bitch who only cares about image than people. In that way I wonder if they had an American Beauty style scene where he yells at her for caring more about material things and what other people think than the family.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||November 27, 2021 5:29 PM|
[quote]What do you all think happened to the characters after?
Matt moved to San Francisco, where Conrad Jarrett had been living since the mid-'80s. They met at a 12-step meeting for Adult Children of Mothers Who Were Cunts on Steroids. Conrad sponsored Matt until they realized they were madly in love and moved in together. Conrad died in the mid-'90s, and Matt is a stalwart of that program.
Matt sold their house in the Avenues, and took the money and ran. We've heard he lives somewhere near the nursing home in which he and Conrad installed their mothers, somewhere on the south side of Chicago.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||November 27, 2021 5:45 PM|
Conrad was gay? Budd would never have been gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||November 27, 2021 5:47 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 49||November 27, 2021 5:49 PM|
They should have used Elm or Chestnut as the name of the street as an allusion to the impending plague.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||November 27, 2021 5:51 PM|
Why is this thread grayed out? I truly don’t understand.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||November 27, 2021 11:52 PM|
There were a lot of threads in this movie that were left hanging at the end. Jim Carrey's character had no resolution, the sister's baby, whether the parents stayed together and the mother came to grips with the gay son. It could do with a sequel.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||November 28, 2021 12:53 AM|
I wonder if they were potentially setting it up to be a series. Could easily have worked as one although the gay son would have been neutered à la Matt Fielding.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||November 28, 2021 2:00 AM|