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Have any of you lived in Dubai?

I know it is an artificial place propped up by oil. Outside of the obvious what is the quality of life.

Currently in Germany but just offered a great job in Dubai.

by Anonymousreply 119November 24, 2021 9:43 PM

[quote] I know it is an artificial place propped up by oil. Outside of the obvious what is the quality of life.

Quality of life depends on whether you're a local Emirati who is subsidized by the kingdom to live in luxury and have no responsibilities or if you're a slave who is being forced to build and maintain the state.

by Anonymousreply 1November 21, 2021 12:15 PM

Isn't Dubai an Islamic state? There was a news some time ago about a Scotsman that was jailed because he accidentally brushed against another man in public. I think the charge was indecency or obscenity or something of that sort. Call me paranoid but I just can't imagine being openly gay and staying in those sort of countries or states.

by Anonymousreply 2November 21, 2021 12:27 PM

The more closeted a country the more hypersexual.

Other than sex, I am curious to hear from those who have lived there.

by Anonymousreply 3November 21, 2021 12:28 PM

Yes, R2. You can be arrested for cursing in Dubai.

Gay sex is punishable by death.

I would never consider going there.

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by Anonymousreply 4November 21, 2021 12:33 PM

Prostitution and slavery are rampant in Dubai. There are thousands and thousands of testimonies of black African workers who once arrived in Dubai had their passports taken away. They cannot leave the country and have to work in inhuman conditions. And there is this prostitution everywhere of girls from Eastern countries, Maghrebi women. There, during the day everyone works hard, but as soon as the work day is over, it is the prostitutes that you see absolutely everywhere.

The Qatari emirs are also completely into Muslim Brotherhood. So they advocate sharia and other abominable things. But for business they turn a blind eye when it comes to European tourists. But their dangerous influence in the rest of the world is still not fought by the UN.

by Anonymousreply 5November 21, 2021 12:35 PM

Troll thread?

by Anonymousreply 6November 21, 2021 12:37 PM

Lots of shopping and things to do. Just stay in line and behave. You will see what you look for, as they say. They put a nice shiny bow on top of some old-school, misogynistic shit, that's for sure. However, If it's good money, you can do anything for a couple of years. It's quite an interesting place.

Every country is now crazy, this will just be a different flavor.

by Anonymousreply 7November 21, 2021 12:38 PM

A Muslim friend from Morocco worked in Dubai. As a single woman, she was denied a driver license. When she married six months later, her husband had to be with her to apply.

by Anonymousreply 8November 21, 2021 12:39 PM

Gay men love Islam.

by Anonymousreply 9November 21, 2021 12:40 PM

R5 Also from other surrounding countries such as Pakistan. Anywhere people are desperate, they are lured to Dubai and then their passports are taken away and they are forced into hard labor. And people come from all over the world, including the supposedly anti-slavery USA, to gawk at the attractions and ignore the slaves. No one cares. It has actually changed how I view fellow American people to see how they aspire to luxurious vacations in Dubai while saying slavery is a bane on US history. It makes me feel kind of sick.

The Emirates also have a history of buying kidnapped children from Mauritania (where many people are small) and forcing them to be camel jockeys, sometimes even tying them to camels' backs.

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by Anonymousreply 10November 21, 2021 12:42 PM

Fucked up place.

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by Anonymousreply 11November 21, 2021 12:44 PM

OP, lots of hot Arab cock looking for action. See R3.

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by Anonymousreply 12November 21, 2021 12:45 PM

I get that a lot of you have read bad stories. I can find those as well.

What I am asking for is any real world experiences from any of you who have lived there.

by Anonymousreply 13November 21, 2021 12:47 PM

Thank god nothing heinous happens in the U.S., R11.

by Anonymousreply 14November 21, 2021 12:49 PM

[quote]Troll thread?

Naw. Just another psycho gay with a penchant for a homo-murdering culture. Plenty of them on DL, such as R14 R12.

by Anonymousreply 15November 21, 2021 12:52 PM

R10 Totally agree with you, totally

by Anonymousreply 16November 21, 2021 12:53 PM

Good point R14. I found similar stories about the US.

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by Anonymousreply 17November 21, 2021 12:54 PM

There are more and more testimonies on instagram from women who have accepted large sums of money in exchange for sex from super rich Qatari men. They prostituted themselves after receiving explicit requests in private messages. It turns out that these Qatari love to be shat on. I assure you this is no joke at all.

by Anonymousreply 18November 21, 2021 12:56 PM

R18 it’s the women who get shat on - Dubai toilets.

by Anonymousreply 19November 21, 2021 12:58 PM

R18 Dis is disgusting to hear. Would never happen in my beautiful country the U.S. with us pretty women and a rich, disgusting man.

by Anonymousreply 20November 21, 2021 12:59 PM

R20 We are talking about Dubai, not American politics. I'm fed up of the fact that we can't discuss in threads without obsessive people always making a connection with Trump or Biden. If you are bored, don't stay on this forum and leave us alone damnit!

by Anonymousreply 21November 21, 2021 1:02 PM

R17 The workers are not being trafficked to the US. It's the same Muslim middleman/slavers providing slaves all over the region.

by Anonymousreply 22November 21, 2021 1:05 PM

I'm not surprised about the women being recruited for sex, but I've always wondered about young men. Given the criminality of homosexuality, makes me wonder if the super rich Arab men that have a taste for young men are doing the same, but on the DL. I've noticed quite a few of the pretty boy "model" and "fitness influencers" and bodybuilders on Instagram always going over to Dubai and the Middle East for "modeling gigs" or jobs, etc...but never showing what they're actually doing. Awfully suspicious...

by Anonymousreply 23November 21, 2021 1:05 PM

I'm Jewish, no thanks....

by Anonymousreply 24November 21, 2021 1:06 PM

You have your answer. There are indeed demands from gay Qatari men. But it's the death penalty in Qatar, so nothing leaks.

by Anonymousreply 25November 21, 2021 1:08 PM

R21 We understand, dear. You're very defensive and hurt. The point is, no matter where you go, there are issues. To try and single out some shocking issue that OMG IT HAPPENS IN THEIR COUNTRY is what's stupid. You'll be okay.

However as has been stated - yes, we agree - there's some horrible shit to be aware of when one goes there.

I like the Melania comments.

by Anonymousreply 26November 21, 2021 1:08 PM

R23 This was for you sorry

by Anonymousreply 27November 21, 2021 1:08 PM

Do they have Costco?

by Anonymousreply 28November 21, 2021 1:08 PM

OP, just curious, is this your current company making this offer? Would be cool to hear from insiders there with any tips or lessons learned. I would love to hear real inside info here.

by Anonymousreply 29November 21, 2021 1:09 PM

Qatar and Dubai are not the same place!

by Anonymousreply 30November 21, 2021 1:09 PM

R26 The day black slavery starts up again in America, you let me know, okay? And this prostitution is not at all the same as in the USA. You don't know even the subject. You'd better go back to your politics threads rather than ruining others

by Anonymousreply 31November 21, 2021 1:11 PM

R23 "Freedom" and "safety" in Muslim societies belongs solely to those with enough power/money to force others to turn a blind eye.

[quote]OMG IT HAPPENS IN THEIR COUNTRY is what's stupid.

R26 What is stupid is your attempts at parity between corrupt Muslim societies and the US.

by Anonymousreply 32November 21, 2021 1:13 PM

R31 This is a free country. Good grief, calm down.

by Anonymousreply 33November 21, 2021 1:15 PM

There is slavery in Qatar as well as in the United Arab Emirates of Dubai

by Anonymousreply 34November 21, 2021 1:15 PM

Forget about the women, R23 is discussing the only topic of importance in this thread: slutty male “models” who let rich men fly them out to fuck them senseless on their yachts. Fuck me, that is hot.

by Anonymousreply 35November 21, 2021 1:16 PM

R34 Dubai is one of the Emirates in the United Arab Emirates and doesn’t even share a land border with Qatar. Both are shitholes!

by Anonymousreply 36November 21, 2021 1:19 PM

I had a friend who lived and worked there. He was gay but didn’t tell anyone. Do you want to live in the closet? He did say there are underground gay clubs but why risk it? The money is good, it doesn’t get taxed. Lots of chavs go there though so those will be your neighbors. Once they run into debt they flee because bankruptcy is a crime.

by Anonymousreply 37November 21, 2021 1:24 PM

Gentlemen, I give you gay Dubai:

"All sexual relations outside of heterosexual marriage are criminalized. Punishments include death, life in prison, floggings, fines, deportation, chemical castration, forced psychological treatments, Honor killings, vigilante executions, beatings, forced anal examinations, forced hormone injections, and torture. Adultery and fornication are crimes punished with death, and a person convicted of homosexuality may also face charges of adultery if they have an opposite-sex spouse while having sexual relations with a person of the same sex. [bold]Homosexuality is illegal in the UAE, and is punishable by the death penalty under sharia law.[/bold]

by Anonymousreply 38November 21, 2021 1:30 PM

[quote]chemical castrations, forced hormone injections, and torture

This sounds so familiar.

by Anonymousreply 39November 21, 2021 1:33 PM

I’m not on the hook up apps, but when I was and bored..I would look in various countries and cities to see if there were people were on there. Dubai was one of those place and there were people on there. I never chatted with them, it would probably be interesting.

by Anonymousreply 40November 21, 2021 1:33 PM

Gay men using sex apps in places like Dubai are fools.

by Anonymousreply 41November 21, 2021 1:36 PM

Half of my cunty entitled greedy (white Brit) family emigrated there many years ago. They’re a perfect fit for the place—shallow, venal, and cluelessly privileged to the core.

To give just a couple of examples—they see nothing wrong with keeping Indians as unpaid domestic slave labour in the 21st Century, or contributing to the rotten and frightening armaments business in the middle-East.

One of my cousins even plays pro-rugby for the UAE now. Looks pretty odd having a milky-white blond English lad representing Dubai, but it’s not like any of the natives can or want to play the sport. Money talks, eh?

by Anonymousreply 42November 21, 2021 1:42 PM

R42, does your cousin have a professional post-game jock sniffer/worshiper? I know someone who might be interested.

by Anonymousreply 43November 21, 2021 1:48 PM

I also assume that every young pretty, usually white male model who posts pictures from Dubai has been used and abused by stupendously rich locals. I do not blame them, but I wonder if they know how obvious it looks?

by Anonymousreply 44November 21, 2021 1:53 PM

It's a great place if you like Indian cock.

by Anonymousreply 45November 21, 2021 2:01 PM

R43 hahahahaha he does not. Next time I speak to him I shall let him know there’s a fine respectable gent on the Internet who’s keen on applying for the position😅

by Anonymousreply 46November 21, 2021 2:14 PM

I can't think of a less attractive place on earth, except perhaps Saudi Arabia. The weather alone would turn me off completely. No nature, no history, the backwards culture, the lack of respect for human rights, Vegas-style glitz with all the fun stripped away. It's grotesque.

by Anonymousreply 47November 21, 2021 2:24 PM

Aaron Schock has traveled there and somehow lived to post photos.

by Anonymousreply 48November 21, 2021 4:18 PM

How long did you live there, R47?

by Anonymousreply 49November 21, 2021 4:18 PM

Aaron Shock is the modern day Roy Cohn.

by Anonymousreply 50November 21, 2021 4:19 PM

Here is a great video by Belinda Carr. She is a no-nonsense architect who grew up in Dubai

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by Anonymousreply 51November 21, 2021 4:35 PM

They love me so much there, they put my vajayjay on a stamp.

by Anonymousreply 52November 21, 2021 4:39 PM

R51, thank you that was very helpful to see.

by Anonymousreply 53November 21, 2021 5:08 PM

A relative lived in Qatar for a few years. Made a lot of money and lived on a compound with other ex-pats but if, as a Westerner, you were in a car accident it was automatically your fault. The citizens are hideous and entitled. Don't work and don't pay and they rape and beat their slaves and any hired staff are essentially slaves. His wife was constantly approached by men in stores asking "how much?" because, you know, all non-Qatari women are whores. As a westerner he could buy liquor but they all stayed on the compound and didn't venture out much.

by Anonymousreply 54November 21, 2021 5:18 PM

R54 Are you saying Qatar is the same as Dubai? On what do you base this?

by Anonymousreply 55November 22, 2021 1:55 PM

R54 my white Brit dad worked a short stint in finance over in Qatar, Oman & Dubai. He was only living there for six months, but he found the experience upsetting, depressing and isolating. He brought back many disturbing anecdotes, the worst how the sewage systems there sometimes became backed up with the bodies of unwanted babies. He couldn’t stand passively watching how non-Arab or non-white peoples were treated there, worse than abused stray dogs. It seems like a fucked-up region.

by Anonymousreply 56November 22, 2021 2:37 PM

R38 Local men have underground invisible but well known active gay life. Europeans find those clubs if and when they know where to look and ask. Rules are what you wrote but the reality is different. Key is to keep everything underground.

by Anonymousreply 57November 22, 2021 2:45 PM

[quote]Are you saying Qatar is the same as Dubai? On what do you base this?

R55 Let's see. Uhhhh, both are feudal, conservative Muslim societies? Uhhhh, both are homo-murdering, misogynist, corrupt, dictatorial? Uhhhh, both treat non-Muslims like less than animals? Uhhhh . . . uhhhh . . .

by Anonymousreply 58November 22, 2021 2:46 PM

[quote]Key is to keep everything underground.

The key to everything is to have enough money and/or know someone with enough power so that when you are caught, you and your chamullah get to live another day. Imagine having to live that way 24/7, worrying every fucking minute about whether you will be caught and what punishment you and your family will have to endure.

by Anonymousreply 59November 22, 2021 2:49 PM

Anybody here who actually lives in Dubai and doesn't just have anecdotal knowledge? It's not even that I don't believe above stories; I do believe them. But I'd be much more curious about how you get through daily life as an expat. How do your daily routines differ there? How free or restrained can you be in your daily life, sex life and other social contacts?

by Anonymousreply 60November 22, 2021 3:00 PM

I am always grossed out when, for example, Real Housewives go there for their season trip and then sit in front of Andy and say how wonderful it was. And usually having brought some of their gay glam squad with them.

by Anonymousreply 61November 22, 2021 3:08 PM

Horrible place. The only authenticity is in the Al Quoz neighborhood, where you can still get your throat cut for the five dollars in your pocket, so you have a taste of what the region is really about behind the glass and absurdity.

by Anonymousreply 62November 22, 2021 3:14 PM

Why do American Muslims travel back there? I live in a very heavily Arab and Middle Eastern part of the US and many seem to travel to Dubai regularly. It’s such a horrible place, why go back. It doesn’t make sense to me.

by Anonymousreply 63November 22, 2021 3:21 PM

R63, I assume they have family there.

OP, I imagine relatively few people on this site have been to Dubai because the majority of us don't like the thought of being slaughtered because we offend the theological sensibilities of porcine billionaires. I would never set foot in that region and I have nothing good to say of the inhabitants I've met (unless they moved away because they too were not impressed by the powers that be).

by Anonymousreply 64November 22, 2021 3:47 PM

No, but I’m going to Dubai!

by Anonymousreply 65November 22, 2021 4:44 PM

Never lived there, but visited for a few months as a kid (in the 2000s). It was still under construction when I went, so it wasn’t as glossy and impressive and overwhelming as it probably is now. I just remember a ton of mini-malls and squalid temporary tower blocks surrounded by miles of sandy nothing. It wasn’t really an experience of classic Arabia and all it’s rich culture—more like a U.S. base. I wasn’t into it.

Also it was so fucking hot, and the Muezzin (call to prayer) every night absolutely fucked with my sleep (on top of jet lag).

by Anonymousreply 66November 22, 2021 4:55 PM

Lived there for two years. It is horrible. Weather is vicious. Traffic is grim. Drivers are massive, massive assholes. Service-industry people are treated like shit so service is shit. Much of the city is dirty. Employers are rancid cents. As noted above, lots of Westerners are shallow, greedy pigs.

by Anonymousreply 67November 22, 2021 6:37 PM

People from Dubai always seem to be incredibly listless and uninspired by anything, unless they're Euro ex-pats, in which case they're shouty trash.

I remember being in London and seeing some Dubai bigwig leave the Ritz for his car - he was 350 lbs if he was an ounce and was wearing a lavender track suit. I had just been barred from entering because I was not wearing a tie, but Mr. Purple Easter Egg rolled out of there without any problem.

by Anonymousreply 68November 22, 2021 7:27 PM

I had an acquaintance from law school who moved there for a year. She was Muslim but hated it and was horribly depressed living there. She was in a high rise condo but said it was like living in an expensive ultra luxury prison

by Anonymousreply 69November 22, 2021 7:29 PM

I love the traffic jam of shit trucks.

No sewage systems in Dubai, so the shit has to be sucked out of the buildings by shit trucks.

There is an inevitable traffic jam of the things every morning.

"How was the traffic?"

"Shitty."

by Anonymousreply 70November 22, 2021 7:43 PM

OP, forget 99% of the comments here.

Pros: Good money, high quality of life, hundreds of wonderful restaurants, amazing shopping, international stars regularly held their concerts there (Pre-Corona), Abu Dhabi Louvre museum is less than one-hour commute, traditional market is a very interesting excursion and takes you centuries back. Many things to do and enjoy like the highest infinity pool, no gravity experience and desert safari. Beaches are inviting only when weather is bearable. Gay life is active and you will meet many gays from all over the world either in clubs or in private parties.

Cons: Very hot 9 months of the year, ridiculous and strict rules and laws you have to abide to (someone was jailed for verbally attacking his employer online), no public affection and being low key is a must. The whole society is divided into natives who do nothing and enjoy everything (you wouldn't usually get in contact with them), and expatriates whom you meet every day everywhere. You will have your own circles of friends among them. Expatriates are also divided into sub-categories with Caucasians being on the top. They are respected for being the highest educated and the best experienced. Don’t talk politics, religion or sex publicly (it’s a common sense) and don’t try to break the law. If you don’t watch out your expenses, you will spend more than what you should save because all attractions are there.

If I remember something else, will add it.

by Anonymousreply 71November 22, 2021 8:36 PM

R71, so it's perfect as long as you stay in the closet and don't care what happens to the maid.

Got it.

by Anonymousreply 72November 22, 2021 9:02 PM

R71 a pro you forgot to list is that if you’re there trolling the resorts, clubs and motels in September or January (i.e. off-season for sports) you might get a crack at some hot bi downlow pro-footballer (soccer) cock.

However, one must time this assay and choose a target very carefully, as said footballers are often homophobic and Kinsey 0s & 1s after prime yachtgirl fanny only. So do your research, hit the gym 6 months early and scrub up very well m if you’re going this route.

If you do choose this course, next winter will be primetime, as we will have an extra long two-month window due to the immense, corrupt and prestigious FIFA World Cup held in Qatar for the very first time.

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by Anonymousreply 73November 22, 2021 9:13 PM

Don't be such a party pooper, R72. Haven't you heard what R71 said? They have a branch of the Louvre, shopping malls, desert safaries, restaurantsm beaches and underground gay clubs, not to mention that you don't pay taxes! It is paradise!

Why should anyone be concerned about what happens to the brown-skinned help? It's not like they are on top of the expatriate pecking order like Caucasians, is it? They probably deserve it when the slightly-less-brown ragheads decide to murder them over a few spects of dust on the floor.

by Anonymousreply 74November 22, 2021 9:13 PM

R63, to put it in a I have two words for you in explanation for your questions about why people would go to a god-forsaken hell hole in the middle of desert nowhere where the noise and gloss cover the dead heart of a diseased culture based on lunatic religious lies conceived by cynical greed:

Las Vegas.

by Anonymousreply 75November 22, 2021 9:16 PM

R75, well I remember the laws against being gay and having sex in Las Vegas. And the laws against drinking and gambling and ogling the tits of expressly not-thy-wife.

A wretched hellhole built with slave labor - no, wait, that was New Orleans.

by Anonymousreply 76November 22, 2021 9:32 PM

Based on 76 replies so far, two of the respondents have actually lived in Dubai. It’s doubtful that the rest even have a passport, being American.

And before the inevitable pile-on - I’ve never lived in Dubai but I have spent a couple of weekends there while on the way to somewhere else. Not interested in going back - if I’m after hot and sweaty stopovers in a city state with a dodgy human rights record, there always Singapore.

by Anonymousreply 77November 22, 2021 10:15 PM

I haven't intended by any means to undermine the negative sides of living in Dubai, particularly their record of human rights or the cast-system-like society. I have just tried to sum up how international expatriates see life there. Financial gains are the main motives for hundreds of thousands from all over the world to go work there, no mather how much or little they enjoy, like or respect that place.

by Anonymousreply 78November 22, 2021 10:51 PM

"I've literally never been and I literally have no idea, but I did make up my mind, because they are not like me, and I literally watched a youtube video, and literally they are terrible."

90% of the responses

by Anonymousreply 79November 23, 2021 1:18 AM

R79, yeah, nah, sorry, have read quite a bit about Dubai and maybe you're okay with the whole 'butcher the fags' bit they have as part of their actual legal practice, but I see no reason to spend money to stress-test that shit.

by Anonymousreply 80November 23, 2021 2:24 AM

"yeah, nah..."

R80 what is your native language? Just curious

by Anonymousreply 81November 23, 2021 2:28 AM

Swahili, R81.

by Anonymousreply 82November 23, 2021 2:31 AM

Sorry, R79 but the slavery and other human rights abuses are well documented.

by Anonymousreply 83November 23, 2021 3:45 PM

I've spect a lot of time in Dubai and as someone who enjoys being outdoors, I realized no one ventures outside due to the heat. You move from one air conditioned space to another. My work associates play golf at 3am since it's cooler then. Everything in Dubai is based in and around giant shopping malls, all chrome and glass and water fountains everywhere. (I guess the look and sound of water is to make you forget you're in the middle of the desert.)

Dubai is relatively new - there are no grand old buildings, no tree lined boulevards, nothing historical. Everywhere is modern 8 lane highways lined with less-than-stelar architecture. The locals in managerial positions are mostly from wealthy families and everyone else is an expat with a 5 to 10 year plan - make some money and have some fun in Dubai, then go back home. No one moves to Dubai with the idea they will stay there. Given all this, I think it would be the polar opposite of Germany.

by Anonymousreply 84November 23, 2021 5:04 PM

[quote] Are you saying Qatar is the same as Dubai?

That’s as ridiculous as comparing North Dakota with South Dakota!

by Anonymousreply 85November 23, 2021 5:10 PM

Will someone please give me a plausible explanation as to why totally buff and young straight fitness models flock to Dubai for many months of the year and post their daily lives on youtube. Not a hint of gay in them, nor any reason to suspect they are gay-for-pay. For these straight single studs in their late 20's, is it the availability of female prostitutes? They don't appear to work, don't appear to have family money or any huge backing ... but they hang in Dubai for months on end ... don't work as personal trainers, etc...

by Anonymousreply 86November 23, 2021 5:47 PM

No.

by Anonymousreply 87November 23, 2021 5:49 PM

My stopovers there have always put me in a foul mood

by Anonymousreply 88November 23, 2021 6:39 PM

While there are laws against gay sex etc, there is definitely white privilege. They would think twice and thrice about arresting a westerner.

by Anonymousreply 89November 23, 2021 6:42 PM

Every jacked Instaho I see posting on social media from a five-star Dubai hotel I assume is peddling his ass to oil sheiks.

I mean, seriously. What other reasons would they have for visiting?

by Anonymousreply 90November 23, 2021 6:45 PM

They might have modeling work.

by Anonymousreply 91November 23, 2021 6:57 PM

[quote]While there are laws against gay sex etc, there is definitely white privilege. They would think twice and thrice about arresting a westerner.

R89 is a perfect example of woefully ignorant bigotry.

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by Anonymousreply 92November 23, 2021 7:03 PM

A good friend of mine lived in Dubai for less than a year, got on crystal meth, and died. He was very straight edged and (as far as I know) did not do drugs before this.

by Anonymousreply 93November 23, 2021 8:19 PM

R71 Do you not consider slave labor to be a con?

by Anonymousreply 94November 23, 2021 8:34 PM

I've never been to Asia, but I dream about having some gay sex in one of the Burj Al Arab bedrooms.

by Anonymousreply 95November 23, 2021 9:07 PM

R92, sure, there are examples here and there of westerners getting arrested, but generally, they let westerners alone. Dependent on tourism, they don't want a bad reputation with westerners

by Anonymousreply 96November 23, 2021 9:10 PM

What are the other emirates like? Some are quite tiny.

by Anonymousreply 97November 23, 2021 10:26 PM

I suspect all of you squealing about slavery do not give a fuck about it happening in the US>

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by Anonymousreply 98November 23, 2021 11:24 PM

R93 Definitely the fault of the country he was in!

by Anonymousreply 99November 23, 2021 11:28 PM

R97 I can tell you that Oman is literally just endless arid rocky screes, populated by nomads foraging for frankincense to trade, and emanciated goats grazing the scrub. There were quite a few bleached animal skulls all over the place when I was driven through. I can’t remember seeing constructed settlements, only seas of tents. A spooky, empty, near-lifeless place.

by Anonymousreply 100November 24, 2021 12:06 AM

before signing for a job in Dubai, i decided to visit and stayed there for 2 weeks... i will never ever go back. all the reasons are laid down pretty exhaustively in the previous 100 posts. one point that i would like to highlight : ALL the emirates are pretty much the same as Saudi Arabia. don't be fooled by the massive marketing campaigns that are funded by the government, including on facebook, youtube, everywhere on google, TV channels, etc... it's all fake.

by Anonymousreply 101November 24, 2021 12:58 AM

Oman is a country, not an Emirate. I used to live there, was there when the sodomizing sultan died. Most of its 5 million people are in Muscat. Lots of open desert, mountains and coastal areas that haven't been chewed up by development, but Omanis are fucking horrible people.

by Anonymousreply 102November 24, 2021 1:34 AM

How so, R102?

by Anonymousreply 103November 24, 2021 2:45 AM

They treat expats like shit, are endlessly arrogant, childish, two-faced, shallow. It's all too rare to come across citizens that are half-way competent and productive. And they're vile wrt animals; people complain about barking, wild dogs and the police shoot the dogs.

by Anonymousreply 104November 24, 2021 4:22 AM

You couldn't pay me enough to even visit that rotten place.

by Anonymousreply 105November 24, 2021 6:26 AM

My cousin and her husband have lived there for over 20 years. They are both in the PR business. They raised both of their children there, with the help of nannies and housemaids from places like the Phillipines, help that they paid, not slaves. They arrange and publicize for companies that attend the numerous international fairs and exhibitions held there. They make incredible amounts of money, and have no illusions that here is any sort of morality or reasonableness to the life of the emirates or in fact to their own lives there By the pictures my cousin has shown me, they have a very nice home. although given the climate, the landscaping is minimal. They off-shore as much of the money they earn as they can safely do, investing in real estate and rental properties in Paris, London, and the US, because they fully expect that someday they will be exiled or there will be a coup, and their house and belongings will be confiscated. My cousin bought a large house in Charlottesville (7 bedrooms and baths) and for the last several years has spent the majority of the summer there, since the summer in Dubai is unbearable and not much business happens at that time of year. They have invited me to visit any time, but as a gay man, I wouldn't feel safe and have never taken them up on it. Their two children are now in the US in school and I would expect their parents to leave Dubai sometime in the next 10 years. My cousin's husband is probably a bit on the greedy side. He gave up his American citizenship because he was so angry about the taxes that ex-pats are required to pay. What he didn't realize is that giving up his citizenship essentially barred him from travel to and from the US. I think he had to buy citizenship in the Bahamas or Barbados or some such place in order to return to the US to visit his dying father. last year.

by Anonymousreply 106November 24, 2021 7:26 AM

"I've always been fascinated by the Middle East. You know, desert moons, magic carpets!"

--an actual line of Carrie Bradshaw's from SEX AND THE CITY 2 when she plans to go to Dubai

by Anonymousreply 107November 24, 2021 8:06 AM

My brother lived there for two years with a global oil company.

I was extremely distressed at the caliber of expat friends he made and dated. It almost caused our family to break apart when he wanted to bring an absolute piece of trash woman from someplace back to America. I gave him an ultimatum regarding my help with him getting into an Ivy League business school if he did so, and he dropped her. But he’s still friends with the sons of English barrow boys he met. Horrible.

by Anonymousreply 108November 24, 2021 9:24 AM

Honestly, in darker moments I find myself envious of the moral bankruptcy or neutrality of those who can stand to live in places like that and make mega-wedge. Their material quality of life and their security is so much better. Why do we all scrabble desperately around in the dirt when people like this are so corrupt that they cancel out any of our decent actions?

by Anonymousreply 109November 24, 2021 1:56 PM

According to the Royal Foibles blog, the male and female whores (oh sorry, "influencers") go there flown in by among others, Prince Hamdan, who is a hardcore drug addict that enjoys frequent orgies. Apparently, his older brother Rashid, who on top of a drug-addicted bisexual slut, was a thief and a murderer, was removed from the line of succession because he was batshit crazy. Thus, I guess that the fact that he died of a drug overdose isn't exactly a tragedy, since he was truly dangerous and a nasty piece of work.

Anyway, here's what the article says:

[quote]Wikileaks exposed documents written by American diplomats stating that the heir to Dubai’s throne was an out of control drug addict that’s been in and out of rehab for years, and that he’s a bisexual party boy that enjoys flying in male and female escorts to his father’s desert kingdom for weekend orgies...

Well, now you have a confirmation of sorts; the Insta-hoes who go to Dubai are hoping to get an invitation to a sheikh's orgies, so they can make bank... If they manage to survive.

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by Anonymousreply 110November 24, 2021 3:12 PM

I must say he looks like a beautiful man, R110.

Wouldn't trust him with a burnt-out match, though.

by Anonymousreply 111November 24, 2021 3:28 PM

He’s pretty R110

by Anonymousreply 112November 24, 2021 3:40 PM

Theoretically, if the body matched the face at R110, he wouldn't need to pay me shit.

But I don't like psychos, so a reluctant but nonetheless heartfelt pass.

by Anonymousreply 113November 24, 2021 3:49 PM

Beautiful eyes and nose. Very pretty, indeed.

by Anonymousreply 114November 24, 2021 3:50 PM

He’s not the psycho. That’s his brother.

by Anonymousreply 115November 24, 2021 4:14 PM

Well, all of them appear to be rather nasty R115. In the comments section in the article I've posted @R110, the say that Hamdan is quite nasty whenever he doesn't get what he wants.

Speaking of insane behaviour, look at what Sheikh Falah (younger brother of the current Sheikh at the United Arab Emirates), did to an Italian-American businessman in 2003. Unsurprisingly, the legal system has done everything in its power to exonerate that psychopath.

[quote]When Orsi politely rebuffed a bottle of champagne the Sheik ordered sent to his table, explaining that he didn’t drink alcohol, Falah opted for a more direct approach to the gentleman he was clearly hoping to seduce... Sheikh Falah next approached Mr. Orsi, sat on his chair’s armrest, told him that he enjoyed being dominated by larger men, and then began kissing, licking, and fondling him. He also playfully called Silvano “a stupid American” for having refused him. Orsi, who was engaged in a conversation at that time with a Saudi Arabian business partner, immediately informed His Highness that, as a heterosexual, he had no desire to engage in a public display of affection with him, or any man for that matter. It was then that the Prince’s flirting transformed into blind rage.

[quote]He next jumped on Mr. Orsi’s lap, grabbed him, threw him to the ground, took his glasses and stomped them underfoot, unfastened his belt, and proceeded to beat, whip, kick, and spit at him. Calling him “a dumb American,” “a dumb Italian”, and repeating that no such person had the right to order him around, Orsi later testified that while the Prince was engaged in his tirade, no one came to his victim’s assistance. Sheik Falah’s entourage eventually wrestled him away from his victim, but joined in the hurling of insults at him while doing so. Silvano next proceeded to the front desk where he asked for the police to be called. It was at this point that he learned of the royal status of his assailant, and it was also at that moment that Falah launched a second attack on Orsi before the combined efforts of hotel security and his entourage put a stop to it.

These glorified Bedouin slave traders, who five generations ago lived in the Neolithic, are quite nefarious.

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by Anonymousreply 116November 24, 2021 4:51 PM

T.E. Lawrence was altogether right about the sand-peoples, in the end.

by Anonymousreply 117November 24, 2021 5:02 PM

I would stay in Germany

by Anonymousreply 118November 24, 2021 5:10 PM

R102, Let's not play with words, whatever you call these places (country, emirate or whatever) makes no difference... you risk your life just being a normal human.

by Anonymousreply 119November 24, 2021 9:43 PM
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