Gun charges dismissed by judge in Kyle Rittenhouse trial!!

Yes he will...something else to be sick over now. The ugly little turd should have stayed home and played video games..

Mouth breathers unite!

The judge is doing all he can to get Rittenhouse off but it's still down to the jury. I wouldn't be surprised, you never know. I do find it pretty scary that a vigilante would simply be legally sanctioned in going and shooting people who have mildly threatened him, if at all. I really hope the jury sees through this but US juries seem to like letting killers off the hook... :S

[quote]The judge is doing all he can to get Rittenhouse off

Pics please.

Go Kyle! The racists tried to lynch him but they will fail.

Oh boy here come the wingnuts screaming about activists judges, amirite?

Right?

Waiting...

Is this a big thing because of the crime itself or because of the cable coverage? Is there likely to be rioting?

Anyone think riots possibly in many cities? Twitter is fuming

If he walks, someone needs to take him out.

R6, Do you have r3 blocked or something? There’s your wingnut.

He should have shot more of the rioters/looters.

Highly doubt anyone will riot if he gets off. He didn’t kill any black people. Try watching the trial uff you can. Lots of videos if the shooting.

Shot just the yte rioters/looters

R10 You call me a 'wingnut' but if I am, then why don't the police just shoot every looter/rioter/protestor at sight?

Wasn't he underage for carrying a gun? That's the only charge I thought would stick.

Regardless of his bias, the judge is a showboating joke.

Are any of the people who burned Kenosha down to the ground on trial? Anyone?

Can you believe the disconnect between this image and the story being told? feel sorry for The Onion and Babylon Bee - how can you compete with this?

People are making this case about race .

The prosecutor is doing a good job tying things together. Rittenhouse looks uncomfortable...good.

The prosecutor is doing a good job tying things together. Rittenhouse looks uncomfortable...good.

R19 race baiters gonna race bait.

Kyle will walk

If he walks, how long do you think before he gets himself in trouble again?

I'm sure he'll be a paragon of virtue, just like his hero George Zimmerman.

Punchable face. This wont end well for him regardless.

R24, he will be basking in his millions after lawsuits against the lying media

He's going home.

Even if the jury comes back with a guilty verdict on all counts, he'll go home. This judge will set aside the verdict.

Judges are allowed to go against a jury's verdict

This was a bad case and it never should have been taken to court. The D.A was under a lot of pressure to charge him. He's the one who decided, not the prosecutor, who was handed this terrible case

It wasn't a bad case, this kid killed two people and seriously injured a third. There is simply no way that Rittenhouse was legally justified in everything he did that night. It had to go to trial.

R28 I don't see how it's a bad case, even if the jury/judge lets him walk. This man deliberately went there with a powerful weapon and shot multiple people when nobody else was killed the same night.

R29, Three people that were trying to kill him.

KH was running from people he shot. There were gunshots behind he so he turned around and victim 1 reached for his gun. Crowd continued to chase and KR fell down and was stomped and hit with skateboard. Third victim had a gun pointing at him. This seems like self defense. He didn’t shoot them to protect property.

Verdict is in. I’ll be shocked if he’s convicted of anything.

R31 And what are the chances of that? Three people tried to kill him? Cops as well as crowds of people were there and didn't kill people.

For those idiots who defend him, can you explain the prosecutor pointing out why the only people dead from that night of chaos were killed by Rittenhouse?

..KR..

Keep defending the dead peodphile.

[quote]Three people tried to kill

As I just pointed out, funny how no one else among the crowd was killed except those killed by Rittenhouse himself. So STFU. Stop acting like an asshole who showed up with a fucking AR is some victim. He was the only fucker who killed anyone in that enormous crowd. THE ONLY FUCKING ONE WHO KILLED PEOPLE.

If nothing else - and I recognize it will make no difference to the future of the country - this case illustrates why the world looks at guns in the United States and sees nothing but insanity. No one anywhere admires the fetish for guns that is unique to the U.S.

The second amendment is worth this? Seriously?

R37, I'm not surprised Rittenhouse defenders are as fucking stupid as you. You have to mention he was a pedo to defend that Rittenhouse killed him NOT knowing what the fuck he was.

You are the stupidest fucking people.

Meanwhile, the Rittenhouse defenders *knowingly* vote for rapists, pedos and spousal abusers.

The judge is a white supremacist MAGAT.

None of this is surprising.

R34, well if someone is being chased by an angry mob of anarchists some of whom have guns then it’s highly likely he could have gotten killed.

R41, I am a Rittenhouse supporter and I don’t support Republican politicians. This isn’t a right vs left issue. Kyle was acting in self defense.

R43 Bullshit, he was wanting to shoot people. He deliberately traveled from Illinois to Wisconsin with an AR-15 gun. He was politically motivated. He wanted to kill people and found reasons to.

this is disgusting, r44 is a troll and likewise a disgusting piece of filth

R43, he had no business being there. None. And he was the only one who killed people because he put himself in a situation to kill people. Fuck you, fuck him and fuck the pedo. You're all trash. Trust me, none of you is good. You're all the garbage making this country go to shit.

By your logic, if Rittenhouse had killed Trump, that would be good because we all fucking know Trump is a rapist including of a 12 yo. We all fucking know it. So his defenders can fuck right off with the "pedo" excuse for him killing someone he didn't know at all. His defenders worship absolute garbage.

He's a POS but he won't be found guilty. The jury is going to say there's reasonable doubt and that self-defense is plausible. I think he went there to kill rioters as part of the sick fantasy so many of these deplorables have, but it's too hard to prove.

[quote] He's going home. Even if the jury comes back with a guilty verdict on all counts, he'll go home. This judge will set aside the verdict. Judges are allowed to go against a jury's verdict This was a bad case and it never should have been taken to court. The D.A was under a lot of pressure to charge him. He's the one who decided, not the prosecutor, who was handed this terrible case

3 people shot (2 died) by an unlicensed gun owner. The case goes to trial. Which is not unusual (despite your claim of pressure on the DA) The shooter claims self defense so you argue that the case should not have been tried. Maybe no self defense cases should be tried. Everyone should own an unlicensed gun, shoot indiscriminately and plead self defense.

I imagine a vigilante loon with an unlicensed weapon will have to shoot up some gay white males at a gay rights protest for some of you to understand the dangerous precedent being set by this case.

It is not self-defense when you literally DRIVE TOWARDS THE VIOLENCE AND ILLEGALLY PURCHASE A GOD DAMNED MILITARY-STYLE WEAPON

Some of you are so fucking thick. He armed himself for protection. He was there because he worked there and his Dad lives there. He was putting out fires and giving first aid including aiding a black woman who'd hurt her ankle. There is footage of him doing this.

The three men he killed were attacking him. They chased him down. He tried fleeing. This was all caught on film. It was self defence.

Why do any of you care that he killed a child rapist, a wife beater and a criminal?

Cut it the fuck out, r49. You know damn well that the majority of the guys defending Rittenhouse on here aren't the gay regulars of DL.

R45, You are a moron who is repeating debunked lies.. No better than a trump supporter just on the opposite extreme.

R47, If Trump was chasing after him with a gun then fuck yes I would support him shooting Trump. I don’t like Trump. Not everyone supports politicians.

Btw Biden molested his daughter Ashley. It’s in her diaries that there is currently and not surprisingly a media blackout on.

[quote]He armed himself for protection

STFU. He ILLEGALLY purchased a fucking AR. STFU. Stop trying to turn him into a fucking boy scout.

He had no business being there and there was no need his being there.

[quote] Cut it the fuck out, [R49]. You know damn well that the majority of the guys defending Rittenhouse on here aren't the gay regulars of DL.

Sure Jan!

I was going to rage at R44, but thanks to R45, R46, R50, and R54, I don't have to.

You all said exactly what I wanted to say.

He went there to murder people, and he did it.

I hope someone exacts vengeance on this fucking cunt, and gives him what he deserves.

Maybe the court won't serve him justice, but I hope that someone will do it eventually.

R51 No grease fire is big enough for you fat sack of shit!

A kid was shot and killed playing with a toy gun in a playground. Police found not guilty. Kyle was driven by his mom to a protest/riot, given an illegal AR and shot and killed two people. He will walk because he is a baby faced fake crying white kid. If it was a Jamal with an afro and gold teeth, jail for life.

R11 Nah. He should've stayed the fuck at home with his underage-punk ass. Once he walks, we're going to have more inbreed, underage toilet babies patrolling cities and shooting people with assault rifles.

R53 QAnon cousin-fucker alert!!!

Lol, This ugly midget had no fucking business going out armed. He's not a cop, he's not a fucking soldier. He's a 4chan using pig faced magat, And keep the peace? Lmao, yeah machine guns are peaceful. Turd.

Why do you care so much, R54, that he killed a child rapists? He was attacked. It was self defense. There is footage proving it.

Fucking morons.

[quote] He will walk because he is a baby faced fake crying white kid. If it was a Jamal with an afro and gold teeth, jail for life.

DING DING DING DING DING!!!!!

The raging DTS on this thread is hilarious.

So much anger because a kid killed a child rapists in self defense..

Kyle will walk because he acted in self defense. Period.

The mainstream media is trying to make this case about race, despite the fact that the two victims were white. As was true with the Floyd case, the media clearly has an agenda here, and they’re doing everything they can, including propogating outright lies to influence public opinion.

The mainstream Leftist media is determined to convince you that the biggest threat to America in 2021 is white supremacy. I call bullshit.

In fact the media, along with many Leftist politicians actually encouraged violent rioting, looting, and destruction of personal property, following the infamous Floyd video. All for a violent crack head felon who was non-compliant and resisting arrest, complaining of breathing difficulties while he was still in the police vehicle. Of course, the media intentionally didn’t show the full video which blew their narrative of “white supremacist cop killing innocent black man” to smithereens.

The mainstream media has chosen to admonish and vilify Kyle as a racist white supremacist, when in reality the evidence shows he went to Kenosha to maintain law and order and protect personal property from looting. .

The reason why Dems are going to lose majorly in 2022 and 2024 (including the Presidency) is because they’ve tried, unsuccessfully, to make everything about race and vilify all white people as racist and all black people as victims. Many people, including myself and other blacks have had enough.

[quote] Some of you are so fucking thick. He armed himself for protection. He was there because he worked there and his Dad lives there. He was putting out fires and giving first aid including aiding a black woman who'd hurt her ankle. There is footage of him doing this.

When a vigilante shooter (emboldened by this case) guns you or your loved ones down. Hopefully they will remember their first aid kit so they can be recognized as the trained expert medical professionals that they are.

Keep repeating he killed a child rapist over and over fat rightwing cunt…

Sorry but like someone already pointed out, the 'child rapists' thing is a huge logical fallacy. He did not know these people. I really don't think you'd necessarily want vigilantes walking around with AR-15s shooting people they think are law-breakers.

[quote] in reality the evidence shows he went to Kenosha to maintain law and order and protect personal property from looting. .

Which he had no defensible or legal reason to do..

You know damn well that shistain judge would have had this turd acquitted to 250 years in prison had he'd been black/brown. Even if it was self defense like this ugly pig claims.

My loved ones aren't child rapists, R66, nor would they chased down and try to kill a child, you moron.

R71 HE DID NOT KNOW WHETHER THEY WERE CHILD RAPISTS OR NOT. Please, stop with this terrible logical fallacy of an argument.

R65 is everything that is wrong with our country -- his willingness to express opinion as fact, his willingness to ignore actual fact, and his willingness to lie about his identity.

He was not a vigilante. He was there to protect property and help prople. There is not one shrewd of evidence that he went there with the intention of killing people. Not one shred. He only shot when they were going to kill him.

We all know that if Rosenbaum and his crew had succeeded in killing Kyle all of you people would be singing a different tune and this shit wouldn’t be headline news.

R67 That obese 4chan/parler using fat fuck thinks anyone cares for their fake propaganda.

The fact still remains, R68 and R72, that they were chasing him down and assaulted him. It was caught on camera.

So I FINALLY dug into this case that all of yall, and the country is talking about. I've managed to avoid it for over a year. My take-aways, not that anybody asked, are this:

#1 They were ALL assholes. All of them. Several white dude bros protesting the police shooting were out there with guns, not just that little 17 year old shit-ass. #2 From one video, it does appear clear that Rittenhouse was being surrounded (attacked?) by at least three people, one brandishing a semi-automatic handgun. #3 Wisconsin is an "open carry" state, allowing people to walk around with guns, (but not minors.) #4 Rittenhouse was carrying a gun illegally and should be held and convicted on those charges specifically, regardless of the shootings. #5 It's plausible, even likely Rittenhouse was indeed in fear for his life. But he clearly had no qualms about using his semi-automatic rifle. #6 Given at least one video I've seen, it would be entirely within the scope of the law that he be exonerated for using deadly force, as there was a clear case to make for him being in mortal fear by being, at one point, flanked/charged by three men, at least one, if not two, brandishing semi-automatic handguns.

The law is complicated folks. This kid is morally, reprehensibly wrong. And hopefully his mother, who seems thirsty for media attention, will be the next person to face trial for her treatment of a juvenile/child in allowing him to be out at night with a semi-automatic gun.

However, there were others with guns. At least two men charged him with guns. One is alive, the hot dude-bro that got shot in the arm and who took the stand. But he too had a gun. An argument can be made as to why he isn't facing criminal prosecution for threatening a minor with deadly force. Because again, the law is complex and often fucked up. One dead man didn't have a gun, but attacked Rittenhouse, allegedly trying to get the gun away from him. He was holding his skateboard in one hand. But he did charge at the guy without direct provocation, (there are no claims Rittenhouse aimed his gun at or threatened Mr. Huber or his girlfriend.). Huber was attempting to be a hero and I'm not sure that was needed. It certainly wasn't smart.

The other dead man did not appear to have a gun, but by all account charged Rittenhouse and threw something at him. I'm not necessarily buying CNN's bullshit about it "just being a plastic bag". THAT incident seems to be mostly in question.

Rosenbaum, the man who Rittenhouse shot first, had just been let out of prison earlier that day, (or was it a mental hospital?). Not that it should matter in his death, but he served a decade in prison for molestation of a minor. He had mental illness, bipolar disorder. It isn't unreasonable, given his mental and criminal past, to assume Rosenbaum would/could have threatened Rittenhouse to the point of Rittenhouse being in fear for his life.

Legally, I expect Rittenhouse to be found not guilty of the charges. There's plenty of evidence on both sides. It's all very ugly, Rittenhouse is in no way innocent. And the prosecutors should be fired and their license to practice law removed, because they aimed way too high and they clearly knew they did. They should have gone for another charge that carried jail time.

It's all very sad. The people out rioting didn't help matters. It was no "peaceful protest". It was a bunch of white trash assholes, most of them itching for a reason to protest and hijacking the local Black Lives Matter movement with their wilding. The rest were white trash, paramilitary wannabe losers. They weren't looking to "defend property", they were looking for conflict.

This is why you can't have nice things when you involve guns. They should all be cancelled and locked-up like animals.

...And what about the OTHER people that he killed, you fucking doomsday preppers.

"Black" Millennial has spoken. The truth is now out.

Saint Kyle, like Mother Teresa, was actually there to help. And white supremacy doesn't exist.

R79 I think you mean "Black Millennial." Cause I ain't buying it,

Guys, the troll you're arguing with isn't even familiar with the case, and his English is sketchy. He has mentioned "the three men he killed" when there were only two, and keeps calling one victim "a child rapists," plural. He uses both American and English/Canadian spellings interchangeably. I think his translation software is cheap.

He was SHOT AT FIRST. Period !!!

To the idiots who keep parroting that Rittenhouse didn't know Rosenbaum was a child rapist: what difference does it make? They still chased after him and assaulted him. It was self defense. The whole thing was caught on camera.

Why is that so hard for you to understand?

Kill yourself fat magat cunt.

“ One is alive, the hot dude-bro that got shot in the arm and who took the stand. But he too had a gun. An argument can be made as to why he isn't facing criminal prosecution for”

We all know why he wasn’t charged and won’t be….

R84, Not everyone is on the extreme ends of the political spectrum like you are, hon.

Take your meds, R84. No normal person is this upset over the justified killings of a child rapist, a wife beater and a violent criminal.

R83 Because saying that shooting them was OK for that reason is a godawful argument and a blatant logical fallacy. As far as I know we have courts of law to decide these questions. Vigilantes, especially those who kill, freak the fuck out of me and have no place in a developed society.

[quote] The mainstream Leftist media is determined to convince you that the biggest threat to America in 2021 is white supremacy. I call bullshit.

Actually the Trump appointed FBI director has repeated stated that white nationalist domestic terrorism is this nations largest threat because it is.

[quote] The reason why Dems are going to lose majorly in 2022 and 2024 (including the Presidency) is because they’ve tried, unsuccessfully, to make everything about race and vilify all white people as racist and all black people as victims. Many people, including myself and other blacks have had enough.

"The reason why" Repubs lost the presidency and both houses of Congress in 2020 is because the Republican Party is a white nationalist Trump cult who have nothing to offer average Americans but divisive rhetoric and polices that only benefit the rich. Which is why 40% of whites, 70% of Hispanics, 70% of Asians and 90% of black voters will never support the Republican Party.

[quote] He was not a vigilante.

[quote] a member of a self-appointed group of citizens who undertake law enforcement in their community without legal authority

Which law enforcement agency employed this 17 yr old and gave him an unlicensed gun? He is the very definition of vigilante.

They chased him down and attacked him, R88, it was caught on camera.

Jesus fucking wept..

[quote] The three men he killed were attacking him. They chased him down. He tried fleeing. This was all caught on film. It was self defence.

He was being chased because he shot a man in the head and was trying to escape.

He’s just a white trash child with a terrible mother and no father. He’s a victim here; maybe he’ll learn from all of this mess and be better. I say let him go. Anyone that was there at the riots, and knowingly participated, deserves any injury or death that occurred.

R87 Sure magat whale, i.e kys

Why's it so hard for YOU to understand that they probably felt threatened that a Gollum-looking mother fucker with an assault rifle was walking around like he owned the place. and after he shot the first guy, the others wanted to get the gun out of his hands. Stop trying to make it like Baby Huey was just minding his own business with AN ASSAULT rifle and randomly got jumped by three people.

R90 Yeah, Jesus is weeping alright because the world is being taken over by loons and Jethros

[quote] He’s just a white trash child with a terrible mother and no father. He’s a victim here; maybe he’ll learn from all of this mess and be better. I say let him go. Anyone that was there at the riots, and knowingly participated, deserves any injury or death that occurred.

Idiot is was a protest. Which is legal and most protesters committed no crime. Do you also believe that gay protesters should be injured or killed?

When a vigilante shooter (emboldened by this case) guns you or your loved ones down. Hopefully they will get off because obviously they will also be the real victim.

Can we all at least agree to F&F R84 / R93? That shit's uncalled for. Please F&F the rabid, violent troll who doesn't know how to maintain herself during a discussion and instead tells people to kill themselves.

So many talking points have been debunked yet the irrational msm brainwashed loons keep repeating them

Kyle was driven by his mom -debunked

Kyle crossed state lines with an ar-15-debunked

Rosenbaum and the two others were peacefully protesting-debunked

Some people here really like “alternative facts” don’t they?

You sort of have to wonder if all of the right wing lunatics defending Rittenhouse are actually American. Some of them don’t seem to understand English very well. Nor did they seem to understand the law.

R77 makes the best case for acquittal from an actual American legal viewpoint.

Still…

Took a glance at this video and if I'm seeing it right, the State is correct when they say Rittenhouse was pointing a gun at someone else before he shot at Rosenbaum. It looks like that's why Rosenbaum threw his bag at him, to stop him from shooting over toward the group of people at the bottom of the screen.

I think the judge is a racist cracker. He is blatantly biased. I think the plan is to incite violence to start the 2nd Civil War. It just may happen.

R96 - I actually quite enjoyed the quote “kill yourself fat magat cunt.” So no, I won’t F & F him. I may not agree with him, but those are the kinds of posts I come here for.

Something I've noticed both on here and Twitter is that a lot of the KR supporters are saying it's "self defence," which isn't the American spelling of the word.

R81 I was thinking that too. The first time that poster wrote 'a child rapists' I thought okay, that might be a typo. But he/she did it again. Seems likely that poster is a Russian troll using this to be divisive.

We'd best all mind our P's and Q's...it's vigilante America now. Rule by psychopaths and their AR-15 equipped minions.

Oh gosh. The olds are accusing people of being Russian for disagreeing again… somethings never change

R102 That and magats are retards.

[quote]R76 The fact still remains, [R68] and [R72], that they were chasing him down and assaulted him. It was caught on camera.

Well, because he was an active shooter in a crowd. I would HOPE others would attempt to stop and detain him.

[quote] He was not a vigilante. He was there to protect property and help prople. There is not one shrewd of evidence that he went there with the intention of killing people.

And WHO IN THE FUCK IS HE, to "protect property and help people?? You dumb cunt R74?

Is he a cop? Military? National Guard? NO, NO, and NO.

He is a fucking loser MAGAT piece of shit TWERP who went there to start trouble.

He had no authority, and no right to enforce, "protect," or "help people." He probably didn't even have a fucking job at the time!

Asshole fuckers like you, make me sick to my stomach because you are just so fucking incredibly STUPID.

[quote]he will be basking in his millions after lawsuits against the lying media

IF this even happens, most of it will go to the families in the inevitable evitable civil suits. I hope they take the Rittenhouse family for everything.

And remember to not protest in Florida, r104, so as not to (legally) get run down.

Russian operatives are out in force on this thread.

They truly enjoy seeing killing and violence on American streets, which is why they have a vested interest in supporting Rittenhouse.

A life sentence of having a face like his should be punishment enough.

Nearly everybody in this thread:

[quote]No normal person is this upset over the justified killings of a child rapist, a wife beater and a violent criminal.

No but normal people are justifiably upset by average Americans taking the law into their own hands, especially in a country drowning in guns. That in the process Rittenhouse murdered some undesireable people is not a mitigating factor. Equal under the law, even if unequal in the eyes of society. Your protection from vigilantes is not subject to the People's Choice standard.

Rittenhouse was a vigilante. His defenders admit it: "he went there to protect..." He had no standing to do so.

vigilante

noun a member of a vigilance committee.

any person who takes the law into his or her own hands, as by avenging a crime.

adjective

done violently and summarily, without recourse to lawful procedures: vigilante justice.

[quote]Of course, the media intentionally didn’t show the full video which blew their narrative of “white supremacist cop killing innocent black man” to smithereens.

Tell that to the jury members r65 who did see the entire video repeatedly and are now seeking therapy for PTSD for having to watch one man kill another man by crushing his larynx with the full weight of his body.

Yeah, if this murderer walks he's marked for death and will be assassinated.

If that fat mongoloid gets off I predict that judge will be forced to retire in quick order.

LOL Rittenhouse will not learn from this. He's going to go on a GOP speaking tour and make a fortune being the triumphant "victim of the Dems"

R116 I doubt it, this little bitch will hide and disappear like the pussy he is. We'll most likely see him detained for beating his future wife/girlfriend at some point tho since he punched a girl in the face too.

[quote] Go Kyle! The racists tried to lynch him but they will fail.

[quote] R6, Do you have r3 blocked or something? There’s your wingnut.

[quote] Are any of the people who burned Kenosha down to the ground on trial? Anyone?

[quote] Can you believe the disconnect between this image and the story being told? feel sorry for The Onion and Babylon Bee - how can you compete with this?

[quote] R19 race baiters gonna race bait.

[quote] R29, Three people that were trying to kill him.

[quote] Keep defending the dead peodphile.

[quote] R34, well if someone is being chased by an angry mob of anarchists some of whom have guns then it’s highly likely he could have gotten killed.

[quote] R41, I am a Rittenhouse supporter and I don’t support Republican politicians. This isn’t a right vs left issue. Kyle was acting in self defense.

[quote] R45, You are a moron who is repeating debunked lies.. No better than a trump supporter just on the opposite extreme. R47, If Trump was chasing after him with a gun then fuck yes I would support him shooting Trump. I don’t like Trump. Not everyone supports politicians. Btw Biden molested his daughter Ashley. It’s in her diaries that there is currently and not surprisingly a media blackout on.

[quote] He was not a vigilante. He was there to protect property and help prople. There is not one shrewd of evidence that he went there with the intention of killing people. Not one shred. He only shot when they were going to kill him. We all know that if Rosenbaum and his crew had succeeded in killing Kyle all of you people would be singing a different tune and this shit wouldn’t be headline news.

[quote] “ One is alive, the hot dude-bro that got shot in the arm and who took the stand. But he too had a gun. An argument can be made as to why he isn't facing criminal prosecution for” We all know why he wasn’t charged and won’t be….

[quote] R84, Not everyone is on the extreme ends of the political spectrum like you are, hon.

[quote] So many talking points have been debunked yet the irrational msm brainwashed loons keep repeating them Kyle was driven by his mom -debunked Kyle crossed state lines with an ar-15-debunked

[quote] Some people here really like “alternative facts” don’t they?

[quote] Oh gosh. The olds are accusing people of being Russian for disagreeing again… somethings never change

Fuck Off Troll!

[quote]Rosenbaum and the two others were peacefully protesting-debunked

Who cares? Rittenhouse isn't a cop. Rittenhouse took it upon himself to administer the death penalty for crimes that don't warrant the death penalty.

This is exactly why I left the country this summer. Moved to Europe. America sucks massive donkey dick now and I am more than happy not to be involved or even care about this super dumb shit. All I ask is to be mailed my ballot as to whether the country should split or not. America is a failed experiment. And I didn't want to get covered in the slow ash burn of the country slowly realizing this.

And FYI, I have to constantly correct the auto correct to American spellings of things. So most likely the other poster is out of the country as well.

Actually, I think I'm in love with R77.

R122, I cannot believe you wrote that whole stupid spiel just to try to explain why the trolls have trouble with English. Pathetic.

[quote] Rittenhouse will not learn from this. He's going to go on a GOP speaking tour and make a fortune being the triumphant "victim of the Dems"

Especially with assholes like Ricky Schroeder and The MyPillow Asshole throwing money at him.

He probably feels like a hero.

[quote]All I ask is to be mailed my ballot as to whether the country should split or not.

Ahhh, yes, the Russian backed initiative that failed when it was exposed that Russians were behind it.

If he gets off I predict he'll end up just like that asshole George Zimmerman who has basically been in semi hiding for years, and has admitted his life is hell.

There will no civil cases is he acted in self defense.

and R124 I completely believe you are stupid enough to think that is the reason why I wrote what I wrote.

…if..

My god y’all need to let up! He’s a child, not some 40 year old deranged man. He has an awful parent and a dysfunctional upbringing. He needs to be let go with a slap on the wrist. This is no reason to ruin his life. Everyone that participated in these riots knew the stakes.

R121, Who cares about the facts of this case? That pretty much sums up the people calling for Rittenhouse conviction.

r132 is a perfect example of how people twist words around to suit their argument. R21 never said "who cares about the facts of this case." He actually pointed FACTS of the case.

R133, The facts are that he shot at people who were chasing him and threatening him, and beating him with a skateboard. . He wasn’t handing out the “death penalty” he was defending his life. Those are the facts.

If the mob had killed Rittenhouse it wouldn’t have made the news and there wouldn’t have been arrests. He defended himself and I’m glad he did.

R134 How strange that they do that to trigger-happy cops and the cops still don't shoot them.

This has vigilantism written all over it.

R136, The cops were under strict orders to stand down. Personally I think the small business owners should have just chalked the loss of their livelihoods to the cost of racial justice but that’s just not realistic. People were going to fight back.

If the fat faced fool had kept his 17 year old ass at home where he belonged, instead of getting his hands on an illegal gun, he wouldn't be going through all this. His parents must be absolute trash for him to get that far into the process and them not know what he was up to, or they did and went right along with it. Frankly he and his mother both look retarded. He wasn't born with all the hatred he has in him, he learned it from someone. And most likely he learned it from his own parents.

But, as I said before. Even if he gets off on this case he will suffer. His life after this is not going to be a bed of roses by any means. He'll be treated as a pariah by many people, and since he is so recognizable moving to another city probably won't help him.

R134 I am confused. Were they chasing him BECAUSE he had already shot someone or shot at someone?

And considering the number of mass shootings committed by men/boys who look just like Ritthenhouse, I can see how a group of people would try and wrestle a gun from someone like that.

R138, I'm not unconvinced he won't get elected to Congress, regretfully.

R148, They ALL should have stayed home. But if the guy who admitted on the stand to having a gun and pointing it at Rittenhouse wasn’t charged neither should Kyle be.

[quote]Were they chasing him BECAUSE he had already shot someone or shot at someone?

Yes, r139.

[quote]R131 My god y’all need to let up! He’s a child

Isn’t he being tried as an adult?

R30, there is vide of those men chasing him. He was allowed to defend himself

R131 makes me think of all the black children in the system who've gotten a slap on the wrist.

I have a lot of posters blocked on this thread

[quote] "If he walks, someone needs to take him out."

I'm still shocked no one ever murdered George Zimmerman.

[quote] I am confused. Were they chasing him BECAUSE he had already shot someone or shot at someone?

r139, no: Rittenhouse was initially pursued (without provocation by Rittenhouse) by a group that included Kenosha resident Joseph Rosenbaum. Racine resident Joshua Ziminski fired a shot into the air, after which Rittenhouse turned towards Rosenbaum. According to a witness, an unarmed Rosenbaum then lunged at Rittenhouse and attempted to take his rifle. Rittenhouse fired four times at Rosenbaum, hitting his groin, hand, thigh, head, and back; with a perforated heart, aorta, pulmonary artery and right lung, Rosenbaum died shortly afterwards.

Rittenhouse then fled the scene to a second location while being followed by a crowd of around a dozen people. He tripped and fell to the ground, then fired twice at an unidentified man who jump-kicked him. Others in the crowd approached Rittenhouse while he was still on the ground, and Silver Lake resident Anthony M. Huber struck Rittenhouse in the shoulder with a skateboard and struggled for control of the rifle. Rittenhouse fired at Huber once, fatally shooting him in the chest. West Allis resident Gaige Grosskreutz approached Rittenhouse while pointing a handgun at him; Rittenhouse shot Grosskreutz once in the right arm, severing his biceps muscle.

So he is in a large crowd with a semi automatic weapon and fires it, hitting someone. People chase him down to try and stop him from shooting anyone else, and he in turns shoots them?

There were other semi automatic weapons there, but he is the ONLY one who fires his at someone. People chase him down to stop him from hurting someone else and they in turn get killed by him?

So he killed two people who were trying to stop him from shooting other people?

So in the future mass shooters can use self defense as a reason they shot people trying to stop them?

I am so confused...

He appears FtM. Was Kyle originally Kylie?

It's too bad Rittenhouse has shown a history of violent behavior. The psycho has proven himself a violent, criminal menace to society.

ok R148 it's clear now. These men seem as if they were attempting to stop another mass shooting and got killed themselves for it.

r149, no: Rittenhouse did not shoot at all until his life was in danger.

[quote] Rittenhouse then fled the scene to a second location while being followed by a crowd of around a dozen people. He tripped and fell to the ground, then fired twice at an unidentified man who jump-kicked him. Others in the crowd approached Rittenhouse while he was still on the ground

They should have just stomped him to death.

Problem solved.

And it would have saved the taxpayers a shitload of money, and the country from this fucking trauma.

The judge is one of the ugliest, unlikable men I've ever laid eyes on.

It’s fucking sick that Grosskreutz was given immunity when he was rioting and walking around with a gun.

[quote] Verdict is in.

R33?

Lol at the fat rethug cunt using the "he's a child!!" Excuse. A fucking 17 year old is not a child dipshit. He was young enough to know going out armed with a fucking machine gun would be trouble and he did it anyway. He's a murderer piece of shit and you're a fat disgusting cunt.

I'm a leftist faggot and guns scare me. Therefore Kyle is guilty of murdering those 3 unarmed black men.

Oh, bless your heart, r159. You *do* try.

R160 It thinks it's clever by calling itself a faggot. Poor fat cunt.

Is the verdict in?

Will there be a separate thread?

I could have sworn that I saw the verdict was in as an alert on my phone, but now I can’t find it. Anyone know?

They havent even finished closing arguments.

R163 it might have been a bad headline or a lazy journalist. Closing arguments are being made.

Thanks r164 and r165. It must have been a premature alert.

The fact is, Rittenhouse threatened his chasers first by brandishing an AR-15 rifle towards and against them.

The pursuers were acting in self-defense against a self-appointed vigilante with no legal authority to police somebody else's premises or property. Rittenhouse was absolutely the aggressor and he WANTED to kill people, so he baited and threatened them with his unauthorized machine gun first.

This is how riots start. When people ignore who initiated the threats, provoked the violence and broke the law.

Brandishing a weapon is NOT legal "open carry" of a gun or protected by the Second Amendment.

It is also not legal for a person under age 18 to "open carry" firearms in Wisconsin.

Rittenhouse is criminal AF.

I think Kyle will make a great choice as my VP running mate when I run for president in 2024.

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R167 aww poor widdle antifa and their peaceful fires and pedophile pasts. The best outcome would have been if proud boys and the 'peaceful protestors' annihilated each other. Good riddance.

[quote] It must have been a premature alert.

Tee hee.

Why did the judge throw out the weapons charge? Anyone know?

r65 is Kyle Rittenhouse posting from bond at the local Hilton Garden Inn.

Remember the white guy who got off with six months time served for rape? Because he was a good kid and the judge didn't want this to affect his life?

Yeah...this is worse.

[quote]The facts are that he shot at people who were chasing him and threatening him, and beating him with a skateboard. . He wasn’t handing out the “death penalty” he was defending his life. Those are the facts.

The facts are, as shown in court video today, is that Rittenhouse aimed his weapon at Rosenbaum without provocation. Rosenbaum then chased Rittenhouse armed with a plastic bag. Rittenhouse shot Rosenbaum once stopping him. He then fired three more times, including the kill shot after Rosenbaum was no longer a threat.

Rittenhouse was now an active shooter who the next two people tried to stop...one with a skateboard. While the 3rd guy had a gun, it was never aimed at Rittenhouse until Rittenhouse began to take aim first.

r170 = "George Floyd's life didn't matter because he did drugs and porn."

Past crimes, including Kyle Rittenhouse's assaults of the teenage girls he likes to punch, are tried separately. The alleged pedophilia was already punished in court and it has no bearing on this case, DeFLECTo Fuckwit.

None of these people are antifa. Where's the proof, and why does it matter when Rittenhouse brandished and threatened people with his weapon first?

To those of you who continue to insist I’m not black - what has you so convinced? Is it because I am articulate and can string a sentence together? Or perhaps because I don’t subscribe to the media-driven narrative that 2021 America is a hot bed of white supremacy? Either way, it is YOU R65, R79, and R80 who are the true racist fucks, to assume that EVERY black person adheres to the same opinions, can all recall identical experiences of victimhood, and believe in the same crazy Leftist politics as you do.

The entire BLM/leftist-driven narrative about racist white cops killing innocent black people is NOT rooted in reality. The media has created this entire situation, and now has the power to incite violence and destruction by reporting outright lies in both this case and the Floyd case. It is reprehensible.

[quote] no: Rittenhouse did not shoot at all until his life was in danger.

His attacker thought THEIR life was in danger since he carried a rifle. All he had to do to diffuse the situation was to let go of is weapon, but instead he started to shoot the ones who felt threatended by him and they had EVERY REASON to feel threatened by a guy carrying a rifle.

I don't want to sound like an NRA shill, but if anyone else had a gun and shot him dead after he shot and killed the first one, it would've been a close and shut case of someone killing Rittenhouse in self-defense after he opened fire and shot an unarmed man.

And, I'm sorry, there will come a point where the Liberal side WILL have some kind of antifa which will answer to gun violence with gun violence if Proud Boys wannabes walk free after killing people.

Sorry,

His attackers thought THEIR life was in danger ...

Post your Twitter or Facebook profile, lady doth protesting too much @ r177.

Until then, you're just another chickenshit alternate personality of a troll.

God you deplorable trolls are so tiresome. Kyle is trash, QAnon is trash, Trump is trash, Republicans are trash, you're all trash. You belong in bags at the curb. You've destroyed this country with your bigotry and your guns and your low IQs. You drive pickups that cost more than some people's houses and take your boats out on the weekend then claim you voted for Trump because of economic anxiety and not because he's the mighty king of trash you've been waiting for.

You're loathsome with no redeeming qualities. Fuck this fat little retarded incel and fuck you, too. Just piss off.

R181 wants to make boats and pickups illegal.

Judging from the outrageous, outrage here, I am pretty assured there will be violent “ protests “ after the verdict .

Hopefully, the lessons learned from all of this is don’t participate in rioting, and if you see someone with a rifle, don’t attack them.

I am resented by the accusations that there on this wonderful homosexualist site of patriot homosexualists people who are not of the Americas. I for instance am An American homosexualist and I would never pretend to be anyone other than who I am being. The nervousness of people to accuse people like me of not being an American homosexualist patriots!

Please do not throw up your terrible accusations again at American patios like me. Thanks you.

r177 = Candace Owens

R170 What the ENTIRE fuck does Antifa have to do with this?

THIS is a perfect example of elections have consequences! Trump should have never won nor should have W Bush! These judges were put in their positions by them and/or other Repig pigs! Non-Repigs sat on our fat sloppy lazy asses and did NOTHING! Many didn't even vote. And of course there where those who were soooooooooo pure they could NEVER vote for HER.

THIS IS YOUR FUCKING FAULT, STUPID CUNTS!!!!!!

With one black on jury there may be a hung jury. Perhaps one or two whites may even agree with him, so definitely hung. But instead of announcing a mistrial the judge may dismiss all charges. I wouldn't trust a judge who makes race-based - not racist, I'm fair - jokes.

[quote] The alleged pedophilia was already punished

So forcibly sodomizing multiple victims aged 10 or under and being convicted makes you an "alleged" pedophile now just like burning and looting makes you a peaceful protestor.

The Kenosha "BLM" protests barely had black people, It was white leftists who drove in from the burbs who were setting the fires and doing most of the damage. Grosskreutz and Rosenbaum, such black names.

This thread reeks of odorous fat whale rethug cunt.....

Judge was appointed by a Democrat and is voted into his position. He’s not Trump appointed.

More white people are in favor of defunding the police than blacks interestingly enough, but the black people who are in favor of defunding are pro 2nd amendment.

The only reason people still give a shit about this trial is because there are enough Americans who STILL believe that Rittenhouse murdered black people.

Any "lesson" learned by acquitting Kyle Rittenhouse would be that vigilantism, terrorism, brandishing assault rifles at crowds and mass murder is now legal in America.

Bring on THE PURGE and its heroic instigator, Kyle "Sociopath" Rittenhouse!

You, TOO can usurp the authority of the police, judges and juries and carry out your OWN sentences on unarmed people you don't know!

R196 Glad it was Kyle Rittenhouse who taught you that lesson and not months and months of rioting where most participants weren't held accountable.

R192,Antifa 💣 ready to go off!

[quote] You, TOO can usurp the authority of the police,

What authority? He called on the police many times and they were nowhere to be found. But please tell us how defunding or abolishing the police and ushering in mob justice isn't usurping authority.

[quote]To those of you who continue to insist I’m not black - what has you so convinced?

You only appear to attempt to tell everyone that black people are wrong in whatever topic comes up.

Also because, R177, you are supposedly a "black" millennial and refer to black people as "blacks." Not even a super coon would dare.

He's fat. He looks 38. He has a low IQ and is uneducated. He is poor. He was punished at birth.

Dead by 40, I would bet my 401K on it. Don't sweat it people.

- Karma

Boris the Nazi Incel is still pushing the narrative that SUMMARY EXECUTION is the punishment that fits the crime for burning a Port-a-Potty or stealing a Beats headset?

Didn't you learn that bullshit is just going to flush your criminal presidents and congressmen straight down the shitter?

Losing the White House, Senate and House of Representatives is an awfully steep price to pay for murdering vandals without legal authority or trials.

Idiot @ r197. You're your own worst enemy and self-destroyer. I love it!!!

Look at the seething hatred r199 has for democracy.

Wow. You'll be locked up soon.

R201, Kyle will outlive you .. Bet

If Kyle killed blacks, you bitches would have him hanging from a tree. He should go free, those thugs were coming for him. 100% Self-Defense.

The lesson of Rittenhouse is if you don't enforce the law and allow criminals to injure people and destroy cities, everyday citizens will step up to fill the vacuum. It also shows that people uniting people against a real or imagined enemy is far more effective than rallying for social justice.

[quote] Boris the Nazi Incel is still pushing the narrative that SUMMARY EXECUTION is the punishment that fits the crime for burning a Port-a-Potty or stealing a Beats headset?

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that people who excuse pedophilia will also excuse violent riots in which peaceful protestors show up with weapons.

The protesters were defending themselves first from Kyle Rittenhouse, the vigilante who made an armed pilgrimage to Kenosha to threaten and kill protests he doesn't like first, brandish assault rifles illegally at people he doesn't know first and using property he doesn't own as an excuse.

Just remember when Republican voters cry "liberty" they're really after anarchy and slaughtering people they don't like.

Geez, block a couple of extremists from both sides and this thread gets VERY short.

Frankly, from my little knowledge of the case, Kenosha sounds like it was full of extremists from both sides, all itching for a fight on that night.

Too bad the shooting of Blake wasn't even a righteous cause. There have been some horrible unjustified police shootings, but Blake's wasn't. (Don't trust me on this, look at the "Shooting of Jacob Blake" Wikipedia page. Snopes has a good outline of the Rittenhouse case, for those who don't want to read a bunch of news articles.

Your peen is that meek and weak, r206? It's not even a clitoris!

Kenosha is still standing and Rittenhouse is a true and known murderer of unarmed citizens he provoked and threatened with a gun FIRST. LITERAL VIOLENCE.

You're warped.

Nobody excused pedophilia, including the right wingers who flushed Mile-Low Snuffleupagus straight down the shitter for it. Ding, dong, the diddler's dead!

We still have a problem with Republicans putting their money where their mouths are by cracking down on pedophiles like Donald Trump and Anton Lazzaro.

Why so many excuses?

OOPS! I excused pedophilia for Republican Rep. Matt Goetz!

OOPS! I projected all Democrats of being guilty of the pedophilia I'm massively guilty of, then excused myself!

this is a real outrage. The fact that he was in possession of an AR while underage was the most obvious thing. Are there possible consequences for judges who make absurdly bad rulings? Schroeder is clearly a fucking piece of shit.

Judges aren't entitled to their offices.

They can be impeached and some face re-election.

The Wisconsin lawyers were saying this last year. The gun charges should never have been brought. The DA knew that.

Rittenhouse was not underage to have possession of the AR rifle. Period.

Please, STFU and STFD, R213.

r204 Don't gamble. You are bad at it. Stats are against young Kyle. He is a high school dropout, loves gunplay, and is from a low socioeconomic zip code. Fat angry upper lower class white man? Diabetic Opiate Zombie (DOZ) chugging 40's at 20, dead at 34.

Me? My family hits mid 80's. I'm 48 with no health problems. Low stress rewarding career, excellent health care, and supportive partner who is also healthy. I just got into heavy doses of apigenin and I'm sleeping like a child again. That was my only problem.

Kyle probably hasn't had a hard shit his whole life.

R31, You're a brain trust, you know that?

Case now in jury’s hands 🙌.

Judge Drama Queen allowed Defense to display BLM Riot Fires....But did NOT allow the Kyle video where Kyle is talking about shooting people days before this shooting...

[quote] he facts are, as shown in court video today, is that Rittenhouse aimed his weapon at Rosenbaum without provocation.

No evidence shows Rittenhouse aimed a gun at Rosenbaum. Stop making up shit.

R219, this has already been discussed and you can see explanation why these 2 things are different and the earlier event is not relevant to the situation in the case.

The fires and riot going on in Kenosha are directly relevant to the case.

it's too long to teach you the law of evidence. Go to law school and practice criminal law if you really want to understand these things. Otherwise I don't think you' really want to know how evidence works and what makes a fair trial. You just want to bitch about something.

No one died in the fires.

He didn’t shoot people to protect property. The first victim chased him with a group that included men with guns one of which was shot in the air.

"He grabbed my gun. So I shot him" = The Kyle Rittenhouse Story.

What does it mean when Kyle Rittenhouse makes a video telling his friend his fantasy of shooting shoplifters just 15 days before killing three people in Kenosha, WI?

[quote]Bro, I wish I had my fucking AR. I'd start shooting rounds at them.

PREMEDITATED MURDER.

How is this any of this psychopath's business? Neither he nor his property were ever threatened and it's not his place. He just likes to kill people!

r225 After 20+ years of American wars in the Middle East, propaganda, gun loving, and a dying middle class, I'd say about 20 percent of Americans are gun wielding homicidal maniacs - like Kyle - and another 20 percent think it's cool and masculine and patriotic. American Sniper type movies have indoctrinated these people.

Funny thing is they can't even qualify for the military. Too stupid and too fat/diabetic. They can all have AR-15's though.

The country is imploding in slow motion.

Because Rittenhouse FIRST began stalking the rioters and trying to interfere with what they were doing without any legal authority, r223.

The killed victims wanted nothing from Rittenhouse. It was Rittenhouse who first interloped, blocked them and threatened them by brandishing an illegally held firearm.

The lesson is, if you don't want to get attacked, don't provoke an encounter with people who are none of your business and first brandish an assault rifle at them, because they will take vigilantes down in self-defense.

Sadly, r226, many sociopaths like Rittenhouse are in the police forces and militaries of EVERY nation.

Rittenhouse is a wannabe cop. Psychos often want to join law enforcement and the military because they get to kill and bully people.

r228 I agree. Also, he is even fatter and grosser now.

[quote]R183 Judging from the outrageous outrage here, I am pretty assured there will be violent “protests” after the verdict .

Well, I don’t know about THAT… but if the murdering little shit gets off I am NOT dropping off any of my famous apple crisps for the jurors.

And I want that announced in OPEN COURT.

this same piece of shit judge excluded the inclusion of the video of dear Kyle punching out a teenage girl. Clearly he has violent tendencies

now he's a double murderer

if he gets off he'll surely get into future trouble and I feel bad for whoever his next victim is

r229 Wannabe. High school dropouts can't be cops or join the military. Apparently, they can just shoot people on the street with an AR-15. Which is insane but very American.

Very few opportunities for messes like Kyle. This was probably his best career choice.

R227, the world is .

Because Rittenhouse FIRST began stalking the rioters and trying to interfere with what they were doing without any legal authority, [R223].

They were setting fires and Rittenhouse put one out. Do you need legal authority to put out a fire with a fire extinguisher?

The killed victims wanted nothing from Rittenhouse. It was Rittenhouse who first interloped, blocked them and threatened them by brandishing an illegally held firearm.

Many of the people at the riot....protest...had guns. If it was an illegal firearm why were the gun charges dropped?

The lesson is, if you don't want to get attacked, don't provoke an encounter with people who are none of your business and first brandish an assault rifle at them, because they will take vigilantes down in self-defense.

Rittenhouse shouldn't have been there but this began when he was being chased. If you look at the video many people on both sides were brandishing guns and rifles. I think the lesson is don't chase scared teenagers with guns and then try to grab their gun. I do feel bad for victim 2 because he thought he was stopping an active shooter. But since KR was running towaards the police, he should have let the situation play out.

OBSERVE AND REPORT is a great movie and dark comedy about Rittenhouse-style psychos who want to become cops or soldiers.

Also Christian Bale in HARSH TIMES:

The Christians raised 200,000 for Kyle....Praise Jesus!!!

he'll probably become a cop

[quote]why were the gun charges dropped?

A technicality over the length of the gun.

BUT BRANDISHING IS STILL ILLEGAL. Rittenhouse wasn't "open carrying," that's a holstered gun!

Justice was not served by the dismissal. The legal spirit was ignored for a gun length technicality and another law was ignored entirely.

This will end in more innocent people's tears.

Only Deplorable Republicans and Rittenhouse's defense lawyers want everyone to think "this began when he was being chased," r235.

The complete chain of events shows Rittenhouse interloping, threatening, brandishing an assault rifle, declaring his murderous intentions 15 days before the shoot and delighting in punching a teenage girl from behind multiple times.

KR was running to the police to disguise his crimes and play the victim.

He was also running to the police because he was outnumbered by dozens of witnesses acting in self defense who saw an active shooter start all of this.

i.e. COWARDICE.

Why was he wearing gloves?

The people he killed thought they were taking down an active shooter. There are times when we call them heroes and here they don't even get to be called victims.

[quote] Because Rittenhouse FIRST began stalking the rioters

Enough with these lies. The evidence is the opposite.

Rosenbaum and the Zaminskys (husband and wife both armed with guns) were stalking Rittenhouse. It was Zaminsky who fired first in the lot while Rosenbaum was chasing Rittenhouse in the lot and lunged to grab his gun.

It was Rosenbaum who threatened to kill Rittenhouse if he got him alone. A reasonable person would believe Rosenbaum wanted to kill him when Rosenbaum chased Rittenhouse through a parking lot and lunged for his gun.

Personally I think the Zaminkskys egged Rosenbaum on. There is evidence that Rosenbaum and the Zaminkys were hanging out together that night and a witness testified it seemed like Zaminsky was controlling Rosenbaum (who was mentally ill, acting bizarre and violent and unlikely medicated properly).

[quote] and trying to interfere with what they were doing without any legal authority, [R223].

LMAO!!!! You are such a fucking idiot. You cannot be that stupid. Interfering with them setting fires and moving those fires near a gas station as well as near the Car Source Rittenhouse and others were hired to protect against arsonists and rioters. Fire extinguishers rule! They had every legal authority to extinguish a fire and move the means of fire away from the arsonists - Rosenbaum and Zaminsky.

[quote] The killed victims wanted nothing from Rittenhouse. It was Rittenhouse who first interloped, blocked them and threatened them by brandishing an illegally held firearm.

Nothing you wrote is the truth. So are you deliberately making shit up or are you just addle-brained? Rittenhouse never brandished a weapon except in the specific instances of self-defense. Rittenhouse did not illegally hold the gun. Grosskreutz did though - his gun was illegally held. When Rosenbaum grabbed at Rittenhouse's gun that was also illegally holding.

The trolls are hilarious and keep proving how stupid or captured they are. They would have been very comfortable in Jonestown.

R264, please shut up. You are an idiot.

All because you say so, r245. Your lies and unsupported claims are the "evidence."

[quote]Rosenbaum and the Zaminskys (husband and wife both armed with guns) were stalking Rittenhouse.

After Rittenhouse provoked and obstructed them by brandishing a rifle, physical obstruction, stalking and harassing them FIRST.

You want to kick the hornet's nest, you're not a VICTIM. This was premeditated violence and threats of violence that caused the Zminskys imminent danger and self defense.

[quote]LMAO!!!! You are such a fucking idiot. You cannot be that stupid. Interfering with them setting fires and moving those fires near a gas station as well as near the Car Source Rittenhouse and others were hired to protect against arsonists and rioters. Fire extinguishers rule! They had every legal authority to extinguish a fire and move the means of fire away from the arsonists - Rosenbaum and Zaminsky.

Who's the idiot? r245 who couldn't notice that Officer Rittenhouse neither had a badge or a uniform?

r245 who lied to the media that he was a licensed medic without a license before the murders?

I think so.

Nobody was going to die from that small trash can fire. It was nice of Rittenhouse to put it out, but that was all just a cover to kill people without authority. He was STALKING THEM and BRANDISHING A RIFLE AT THEM FIRST.

Wh

r245, they were not hired to protect that gas station. They just showed up there.

The idiot is certainly not r246, who has posted a reply to a post that hasn't even been written yet.

A reasonable juror would see through all the bullshit from the judge and the crass remarks from the defense attorney and send Rittenhouse to prison. But, we no longer live in reasonable times.

Rittenhouse will be well protected from the Nazis in prison though. Out in the real world? I don't think he'll like being a free man. I really don't think 'freedom' will go well for him.

Is the jury deliberating into late hours?

Jury starts deliberations tomorrow morning

NOBODY can tell I’m W&W’ing the shit out of my own posts @ r65.

[quote] A reasonable juror would see through all the bullshit from the judge and the crass remarks from the defense attorney

Defying the overwhelming evidence that proved that Rittenhouse acted in self-defense would not be reasonable. It would be the opposite of reasonable.

Alec Baldwin is trending because of kyle's attorney

Judge Schroeder is a perfectly neutral broker. His phone just keeps ringing the Trump rally theme song in court!

This is all just blind justice, folks.

[quote] The reason why Dems are going to lose majorly in 2022 and 2024 (including the Presidency) is because they’ve tried, unsuccessfully, to make everything about race and vilify all white people as racist and all black people as victims. Many people, including myself and other blacks have had enough.

Do you always need to be so over the top dramatic? Your entire post sounds like Julia Sugarbaker. Oh, and stop pretending you are black. You are not black.

Listen to the sound ... of BLIND JUSTICE!

Official MAGA commercial using the Judges ringtone.

Innocent Nazi, couldn't be a white supremacist at ALL.

Blind justice.

Looks like Miss Rittenhouse has a partner in crime sprees!

r236 I just watched Observe and Report for the second time because someone I knew had never seen it. The scene with the police psychologist was hilarious, and yes, very Rittenhouse with the mom and the protagonist being fat and delusional, psychotic and confused.

I hadn't seen it in about ten years, and it seemed more realistic nowadays. Reminded me of the Alex's fellow gang members becoming police in A Clockwork Orange as well.

Gun charges were dismissed by judge because Rittenhouse did not violate Wisconsin law which bans short barreled guns. The prosecution admitted that the rifle Rittenhouse had was a long barrel and did not fall under the statute.

r243 Gloves are part of the cosplay costume/uniform/outfit, wannabe cops and Rambos like to dress up in "tactical gear" they buy on Amazon to look like Bradley Cooper in American Sniper. Makes them look more menacing and official (in their minds).

Kyle Rittenhouse is a murderer. He is the scum of the Earth. And so is anyone who supports him.

r237 Thank you for the recommendation, I was unaware of that film. I liked Training Day.

FUCK you, R259. You are a fucking disgrace. I’m betting you’re some fat, elderly lower middle class loser who equates all blacks people as ratchet hoodlums, ala crackhead George Floyd.

Never mind that I grew up with two high income black parents in a top 1% household. Forget the fact that I’ve never had major run ins with the law and even when I got pulled over in a white neighborhood while drunk, I faced no recourse. Forget that I am educated and high income. According to you, it’s just simply impossible for a lowly n*g to not be a white-hating victim. 🙄

It is YOU and condescending Leftist racists like you, who keep insisting that a black person can’t possibly have a conflicting opinion are exactly the reason why Trump received more black votes than any Republican presidential candidate in recent history.

People like you make me fucking sick.

r270 Recourse: I don't think that means....what you think it means.

R262, if Rittenhouse is a white supremacist, so what? Is he on trial because he flashed a white power sign? Does being a white supremacist mean due process should be thrown out in this case and that he should be convicted even though the evidence clearly suggests he was acting in self defense?

Of course, white supremacy is indefensible, but the facts and circumstances surrounding this case DO NOT support the narrative that white supremacy or more appropriately, anti-black sentiments, had anything to do with what transpired. Exactly the same as the George Floyd case.

Are some Republicans racist? Absolutely they are. But Democrats are too, and that’s quite apparent by the condescending sentiments directed at me in this thread and others where I’ve put forth a contrarian point of view based on my own carefully fact-based conclusions.

Why is Mama Shrekenhouse coming for Joe Biden if precious Kyle parties with the Proud Boys and throws up white supremacist hand signals?

r272 His ideological motivations are very important - and ARE important in our judicial system. Research hate crime laws. Your point of view is hardly contrarian, this country is full of angry whackjobs who think driving around with an AR-15 to "protect gas stations" and pretend to be "medics" in cosplay outfits is completely normal.

I don't care what happens in court. Look at the OJ trial, our entire judicial system is fucked. Rittenhouse is just a garbage human being, even if he is technically "not guilty". The real punishment - in my opinion - is being a Kyle Rittenhouse.

Like fat orange Trump, my main problem with these people is they are stupid, and look like shit, super corny people. He is guilty of being a fat retard, no matter what happens in court.

Yes, motive is always important in court cases. I don't know why people think it's irrelevant. Again, how strange that he thought it a good idea to insert himself in the middle of all that when he had nothing to do with it and wasn't law enforcement, and he was the only person who shot three people, killing two when even law enforcement didn't. Rioting/protesting doesn't carry the death penalty. His actions were grossly inappropriate.

I just think that this isn't a good idea to set as a precedent because if he is let off, it could be a good argument for people to go out with a big gun looking for trouble and provoking people into 'attacking' them so that they can shoot them.

Another possible reason why Kyle was wearing gloves was because he was helping to clean off graffiti earlier in the day

R273 = And not a single reporter from NBC or CBS asked Mommy about the Proud Boys during her interviews. WTF?

The voluntary cleaning crew

r275 I think George Zimmerman has recently set that precedent. I'm sure there are earlier examples.

r278 Cool photo op. Let's all stand unnaturally close together and scrub this wall with sponges while having our photo taken. Let's not use a high pressure hose and be done with it in ten minutes. Symbolism.

"There are riots going, upheaval. People are going to burn that gas station we love 100 miles away in a different state because they hate freedom and Trump. Great, let's go clean graffiti. Awesome, I'll grab my AR-15, cool pleather tactical gloves, and family sized potato chips. "

I could be the perfect jury for this trial, till this day I have absolutely no idea what happened, who was killed and how, under what circumstances...

but I do want to say, he has a punchable face! 🤭 Will that disqualify me for the jury?

R163, I saw the same on Twitter and came here to post it, only to find this thread up already. When I was reading the thread I realized a verdict wasn't even close. Some news source screwed up, I think.

The majority of America likely believes Kyle Rittenhouse shot two black men and not two white pedos. That's how criminal our media is.

[quote] I got pulled over in a white neighborhood while drunk, I faced no recourse.

R270 Recourse? What? And you say you're educated?

You act like you're so smart for being new or different. Even if you're actually black, we've seen your type many times before--Candace Owens, Herschel Walker, Tim Scott, Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice, Diamond & Silk, Burgess Owens, Kanye, Larry Elder, Daniel Cameron, Winsome Sears, Vernon Jones, Kim Klacik, Katrina Pierson, etc. etc.

You're not the first and will not be the last intellectually dishonest "black" on Earth.

[quote] The majority of America likely believes Kyle Rittenhouse shot two black men and not two white pedos. That's how criminal our media is.

R283 The media never said they were black men. Why are they to blame for Americans' stupidity?

R270, you just don't know when to stop. You are not black and you are not a millennial. You did not grow up in the top 1%.

Stop embarrassing yourself. Talk less.

That crappy Lee Greenwood song has been a second national anthem for flyovers for 3 decades. Trying to make it all about Trump just shows you need to get out more and outside your bubble.

The demonization of people based on dubious facts and links leads to many mistaken assumptions. People are so easily led. But hey we are a gossip site making huge leaps from meager scraps all the time.

If you go to Lipstick Alley there are some black posters defending Rittenhouse. What is the obsession that all people of the same race have to think alike. Do all white people think alike? Do all Hispanics?

Trayvon Martin was bashing someone’s skull into the ground. Zimmerman had every right to defend himself. You can’t Jill someone for being an asshole, this includes going up to people asking them what they’re doing in the neighborhood. The Left continues to dig themselves into a bigger and bigger hole with this shit. They made every excuse imaginable for the riots including “Those stores have insurance.” No one is buying this shit anymore. This is why idiots like Trump can get elected.

Americans are thrilled that this kid killed two thugs that were part of burning down cities because they didn’t get their way culture.

A reason why people talk about the background of the people who were shot is that there are anti-Rittenhouse people who say that even though the evidence proves Rittenhouse acted in self-defense, Rittenhouse should be found guilty anyway because he’s a bad person. So the reaction is that if people want to go there, it’s clear that the lowlifes who were shot were far worse than Rittenhouse.

R288, not all of the posters on Lipstick Alley are black. It's another essentially anonymous forum, so it gets a lot of right-wing trolls, too.

All POC agree with each other about everything and always vote for Democrats. Hmmm...

R289 And why was Martin bashing Zimmerman's head into the ground? Was he not defending himself from a self-deputized lunatic with a gun? You and your ilk are all about people defending themselves WITHOUT acknowledging the cause.

How convenient.

It's nice to know that a gun is actually an interstate killing pass in law

R291 EXCEPT none of those people had killed anyone. Rittenhouse SHOULD be found guilty because IF he had followed THE LAW, two people would still be alive. I'm not talking about first degree, but he should serve SOME time. And that cunt mother of his should also be penalized.

r296, the two people would be alive if they hadn’t attacked Rittenhouse. Since Rittenhouse acted in self-defense to protect himself, the killing is legally justified.

You just know this jury is going to reach a verdict before lunch time.

Can’t understand why this case is so polarizing. It was a shooting during a riot, not during the earlier lawful protest. People were burning shit, destroying businesses, many carrying guns. It was a free-for-all. It's fun to riot.

The real community protestors were gone. Rittenhouse's victims were not even protestors.

But now it’s clear. All progressive, correct-thinking people gave the 2020 riots a pass. Black lives matter, police are all thugs, therefore the nighttime riots that grew out of some protests should get a pass. Rittenhouse was supposed to give the riots a pass too.

And because Rittenhouse is not a correct-thinking person, and is a redneck, then he is guilty. Otherwise, why all the passion around the case?

The charges involved complicated facts. All the defense case has to do is raise a reasonable doubt under the law governing self-defense.

(Here comes the “Nazi, right-wing talking-points” troll in 3…2…1…)

R299 is just reciting the Nazi, right-wing taking points.

R270 -- there isn't a single person on this board who thinks you're actually a Black millennial.

I could call myself a pink Martian and no one could totally refute this because this is an anonymous board.

So just give it up.

"And because Rittenhouse is not a correct-thinking person, and is a redneck, then he is guilty. "

no, he's guilty because he shot and killed two unarmed people with a military-grade illegally purchased gun.

The gun wasn't illegally purchases. He didn't cross state lines with it. His mother didn't drive him to the protests. He was being chased by someone who grabbed his gun. Why is everyone so invested in incorrect facts. I'm sure he's a terrible human being but the case is not about that.

R245 Jump off a ledge obese magat cunt.

I think he definitely overreacted and shot the first guy. The second one who hit him with the skateboard, you might have me on self-defense, and the third guy is a draw. They both had guns, although I don't know why he wasn't a hero to the 2a crowd, since he was literally a "good guy with a gun" who was running toward what he believed to be an active shooter. My gun loving relatives relish the thought of being in that position.

That being said, I think it WAS an illegal gun in spirit, but I think because it technically was his friends gun and never crossed state lines, he skated on that one just purely by accident.

All things considered, I'm not sure I want to live in a country where you can bring a gun to a protest, with the obvious desire to use it (even if you maintain you didn't), and then be considered the victim when it causes you to shoot unarmed people, even if they were @ssholes.

The media thinks Trayvon was right to physically attack George Zimmerman for asking him why he’s in his neighborhodod but Kyle Rittenhouse is wrong to shoot at a mob who are chasing him with guns?

Trial by media.

[quote] The media thinks Trayvon was right to physically attack George Zimmerman for asking him why he’s in his neighborhodod

Are you on crack? They did exactly the opposite and came to the riots they caused. Zimmerman was within his right. You are not allowed to put your hands on someone, period, let alone start pounding their skulls into the ground. Zimmerman was an asshole, but that’s life. There’s no law against going up up someone and questioning them. You can’t in turn start beating them up. The moment you do that you’re asking for trouble snd that includes someone using a gun to get you to stop physically attacking them. This is the kind of shit that makes Americans vote conservative. The media pulled this same shit during the OJ trials. They want ratings do they push the narrative that will get them future stories, ie, rioting after trial coverage.

[quote] He was being chased by someone who grabbed his gun. Why is everyone so invested in incorrect facts.

R303 Why are you?

People chased him and grabbed his gun because he shot the first guy.

[quote] All progressive, correct-thinking people gave the 2020 riots a pass.

This. The Left is the new Moral Majority. They’re the Right of the 90s. They nothing but a bunch of scolding harpies who operate on group think. They’re trying to police language, who everyone should be attractive to, and box everyone into categories, not see them as individuals. They see groups of people as victims and tell them how difficult their lives must be. Sorry but everyone’s life is not the same. We don’t need people telling us we’re victims or that we’re privileged. Fuck off with that shit.

[quote]Gloves are part of the cosplay costume/uniform/outfit, wannabe cops and Rambos like to dress up in "tactical gear" they buy on Amazon to look like Bradley Cooper in American Sniper. Makes them look more menacing and official (in their minds).

In this case, he was cosplaying an EMT. He claimed to be a licensed EMT.

R310 Comment of The Day.

I wish I had known that it’s ok to gun down protestors - my ass (and my Ruger American) would have been down in DC on January 6 in a split second!

[quote] In this case, he was cosplaying an EMT. He claimed to be a licensed EMT.

Who are you talking about? Rittenhouse never claimed to be a licensed EMT.

The one overclaiming for himself was Grosskreutz. Grosskreutz was not a licensed EMT anywhere in the country. He also tried to oversell his "ambulance" experience by saying he rode an ambulance for a year. What he omitted was that his "ambulance" experience was working for a private medical ambulance service that gave rides to medical appointments to seniors.

Plenty of people on both sides of these demonstrations/riots were offering basic first aid assistance to people. They were labeling themselves all kinds of technically incorrect titles - people are almost never accurate with these labels. Yes it may be cosplay but it doesn't tell you anything about these people except maybe they all wanted to offer some help. Rittenhouse did, in fact, render aid to someone earlier - someone who sprained their ankle IIRC.

This is an irrelevant matter.

I wonder if some day little Kyle will end up shooting his own mother dead.

r182 Are you truly so stupid you missed the point or do you just pretend to be a fucking moron? The point was you can't own boats and $60,000 pickups and claim to have voted for a racist, traitorous conman because Obummer destroyed the economy. Your economy was doing just fine. You just wanted to support a racist, traitrous conman because you're a racist idiot and were his current mark.

I'm truly curious- are you trolls really stupid or do you just pretend to be? Are you Russian, Republican or a 12 year old from an incel board? Are you the same person? How many times do you fleas have to be put on ignore before you finally disappear?

I sure hope he comes to my prison. That chubby, pasty white ass looks GOOD!

[quote]Who are you talking about? Rittenhouse never claimed to be a licensed EMT.

Clearly you haven't been watching the trial.

The first guy he shot was chasing him and grabbed his gun.

Rittenhouse was a lifeguard who could do CPR. He was making himself seem more important than he was. He did help some people.

R270, yet another typical dumb, elderbottom Leftist, who chastises “white supremacy” and do-called conservative racism, but then proceeds to lecture an actual black person on why they aren’t black because said black person rejects ghetto culture and believes in personal accountability rather than blaming white people for everything. You and everyone else on here insisting I’m not black are the true racists.

And no, I will never capitalize “black” because it is fucking stupid to do so. If you’re going to capitalize black, then capitalize white too. Just another example of liberal virtue signaling that accomplishes NOTHING and pushes more moderate white people to the right.

I will keep posting my thoughts and opinions on this board as I see fit. Looking forward to seeing all you racist assholes melt when Kyle walks free!

R321 Bitch, you are not in any way, shape or form a black person. Sit the fuck down.

Seek professional help, r321.

R322 The point is there are black people who support Rittenhouse and those who are indifferent to him and that doesn't make them any less black.

R318, Rittenhouse was asked by a journalist if he was an EMT and he answered yes. He did not say he was a "licensed" EMT. You are adding words to what he said to try to make him seem a liar. Those are the tricks this prosecutor has been playing. Rittenhouse received EMT training as a cadet. I can see him saying yes to that question - it's not accurate in my eyes but it's not a deliberate lie either.

How about Grosskreutz' claims when he was also not a licensed EMT?

r283 believes he and Bile Shittenhouse are entitled to try, convict and and execute any citizen for any crime, any time they feel like it.

That's how criminal r283 is.

There's no way this Millennial Uncle Tom is really black.

It's just another one of Boris the Nazi Incel's troll personalities with a sock puppet account.

[quote]Rittenhouse was asked by a journalist if he was an EMT and he answered yes. He did not say he was a "licensed" EMT.

How do you think you become an EMT?

r283 also has to prove "the majority of America believes Rittenhouse killed two black men."

He has not done so.

Why, r327? Just because he doesn't think the way you believe a black person should think? That's truly racist.

Well who the fuck do you think the flyovers VOTED FOR and supported in any manner of crime, including an insurrection terrorist attack on the U.S. Capitol, r287?

Dumbass and liar @ r287.

Oh, bless tour troll ass-kissing heart, r330.

^your

[quote] who chastises “white supremacy” and do-called conservative racism

So-called yeah right.

"All progressive, correct-thinking people gave the 2020 riots a pass."

They arent given a pass - but it's certainly understood why they happened. It was a critical mass reaction to the ongoing systemic execution of black and brown people by the police. Riots happen when oppression has broken the collective spirit and people feel like they have no other recourse. Cuz, ya know, they are being exterminated.

And overall the protests were largely peaceful.

Prove it, r290 / Trollina.

[quote]Rittenhouse explained that he’d been a cadet with the Antioch Fire Department in Illinois and while he’d learned some first aid skills, he was not a certified EMT, even though he’d told numerous people that night that he was.

🔝 Here you go, r325. And it's even from a right wing rag, so it must be true.

.

That's "license to kill," r295

[quote]I will keep posting my thoughts and opinions on this board as I see fit

It's sad that the only thing you're fit for is trolling on an anonymous board, r321.

They both should be sterilized, r296.

[Quote] It was a critical mass reaction to the ongoing systemic execution of black and brown people by the police

A narrative that has been demonstrated to be false.

Bullshit, r335. The daytime protests were largely peaceful. The nighttime riots were riots, indulged in by nonprotestors.

There was plenty of peaceful daytime protests. But people should not have given the nighttime riots a pass, which the left did. And as you do, with your over the top sobbing about systematic extermination. Jesus fucking Christ.

[quote]But now it’s clear. All progressive, correct-thinking people gave the 2020 riots a pass.

Bullshit, r342.

R343, it’s not bullshit and you know it.

[quote] The daytime protests were largely peaceful. The nighttime riots were riots, indulged in by nonprotestors.

Whatever you say, Pollyanna.

R342 That's correct, Peaceful protestors were told they had to obey curfew. There was no police protection. Police were ordered to stand down. It was no longer a protest, it was a violent mob and I'm frankly surprised more of them didn't die.

And the media which lies and sensationalizes racial stories for ratings, local police who failed in their mission to protect their citizens, and the rioters themselves are all culpable in one way or another.

Boris @ r299 can ignore Rittenhouse's threats, intimidation, physical obstruction, illegal assault rifle brandishing, trespassing and active shooter status that provoked Rosenbaum, Huber and Grosskreutz to defend themselves as many times as Boris wants.

You can repeat the lie that Rittenhouse's premeditated, interstate pilgrimage to other people's business after declaring his intentions to kill shoplifters was just "self defense" all you like.

America won't keep lying and ignoring this or legalize vigilanteism. Neither r299 nor Kyle Rittenhouse have the right to police anything they don't own or wave guns in other people's faces; much less hand out death sentences for crimes other citizens have already paid for through due process in the justice system.

If some biased judge in Wisconsin tampers with justice, r299 isn't going to get all judges to do so and endow him with police, judge and jury authority.

If they do so, there's going to be a Purge and the conservative country dumbfucks WILL LOSE.

You really shouldn't be inciting the civil war you want so desperately, r299. The Deplorable Rittenhouse side of America is a fringe minority and you can't win. Republicans in government are overrepresented thanks to a rigged electoral college, artificial Senate numbers and gerrymandered House districts.

Real Republican voters make up just 25 percent of the U.S. population and plenty of them aren't stupid enough to throw themselves into terrorist insurrections and vigilante justice.

Therefore, right-wingers WILL LOSE the civil war or Purge you think you're entitled to. Scumbags like you simply don't have the numbers to win.

So you'd better be careful what you wish for, because even the right-wing trolls and chickenshits who hide in Berlin bunkers or Tora Bora caves while the suckers do the dirty work eventually get their comeuppance. Just ask Hitler or Bin Laden.

R348 I see you're so concerned about the law but we all know who is more likely to riot if the verdict doesn't go their way. If Rittenhouse is found guilty, you'll hear angry commentary from the right and that's it. If he is not guilty, expect more riots and the same people who are against vigilanteism will make more excuses. Absolutely pathetic.

[quote] I will keep posting my thoughts and opinions on this board as I see fit

No shit, DefatTurd.

It doesn't matter if the GOP disappears tomorrow. Most of those people will just be politically unaffiliated. They sure as hell won't feel welcome in the new authoritarian Democrat party.

RITTENHOUSE PROVOKED THE MOB, r306!!

DON'T WAVE A GUN IN PEOPLES' FACES YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS WITH!

YOU CAN'T KICK THE HORNET'S NEST AND CRY "SELF DEFENSE" / "VICTIM!!!!f"

YOU CAN'T DECLARE YOUR DESIRE TO EXECUTE SHOPLIFTERS 15 DAYS IN ADVANCE, TRAVEL TO A DIFFERENT STATE, GO ON A KILLING SPREE THEN CRY "SELF DEFENSE."

YOU ARE GUILTY OF PROVOKING INTENTIONAL MURDER BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT!

LISTEN TO THIS PREMEDITATED BITCH ON VIDEO!!!!!

[quote]Bro, I wish I had my fucking AR. I'd start shooting rounds at them.

WHY WAS KYLE RITTENHOUSE IN KENOSHA?

r299?

r306?

Why was the motherfucker there? He is not a Wisconsin resident.

R353 His father lives in Kenosha and his mother's house was less than 20 miles away. He was part of the community.

[quote] RITTENHOUSE PROVOKED THE MOB

lmao.

Women just ask to be raped when they wear short skirts, right, jackass?

You’re going to be throwing a fit when Dems lose Congress. Such a dumbass.

If you wave a gun in my face, I'M THE VICTIM.

I'M entitled to kill YOU in self defense!

And George Zimmerman and Kyle Rittenhouse and any other sociopathic, right-wing, BLOODTHIRSTY, TRIGGER-HAPPY BUSYBODY!

R354, don’t speak facts. Progressives don’t deal with facts. That’s why they believe that men can be women.

Republicans LOST the Congress and White House, dumbass @ r355.

Now go wave a gun in somebody's face, you coward.

R358 The real cowards were the violent mob who felt emboldened due to commit burning and looting in the absence of police. I'm sure these idiots didn't think that there would be ordinary citizens willing to stand up to them.

I don't think this case is as straightforward as initially believed & I agree the prosecutor probably over-charged him, but the extent to which the judge has inserted himself in the trial is unbelievable.

KENOSHA, WI—Moments before reading the verdict, the twelve jurors in the trial of Kyle Rittenhouse asked if the defendant would please step outside and defend the courthouse.

“We, the jury will perform our constitutional duty and declare the verdict in this case,” said one sweating juror, “But we, the jury also don’t want to die.”

“Objection, your honor, Rittenhouse does not possess an AR-15 to defend the courthouse; I have the AR-15,” said the prosecutor, swinging the weapon wildly about as onlookers nervously ducked behind benches. “Besides, protestors are heroes, people of upstanding character, and victims.”

Judge Schroeder ruled the prosecutor a doofus and allowed Rittenhouse to disarm the blubbering liar, load his weapon, and position himself defensively on the steps of the courthouse while the verdict was read.

Witnesses claim even the prosecution team was relieved to know Kyle Rittenhouse was out there protecting them.

The left

"Rittenhouse getting off will send a message encouraging vigilantes"

Also the left

"We will threaten the jury if they don't give us the outcome we want"

R362 Your quote describes these people perfectly..

[quote] That’s why they believe that men can be women.

What does this have to do with anything?

Neither r308 nor anyone besides Zimmerman knows exactly what happened that night, so STFU.

Who on the left has threatened the jury, r362?

Reading this thread is just heart-breaking. And, indicative of everything that's wrong with America.

The rightwing trolls who don't care about facts, but see everything as an attack on their personal belief system, are out of control.

There's a smaller element of far left woke types who are also not interested in justice but in symbolism.

The facts are clearly against Rittenhouse. But that doesn't seem to matter. The rightwing trolls don't care.

We've become a nation where one side believes in facts, and the other in emotions.

Just like this thread, this country will end in tears.

[quote]The first guy he shot was chasing him and grabbed his gun.

His first shot hit Joseph Rosenbaum's groin and fractured his pelvis, putting him on the ground and immobilizing him. Rosenbaum wasn't going to get back up and keep chasing him, the immediate threat was gone. Why didn't Rittenhouse just walk or run away? Why did he stay and put three more shots into him instead? The first shot was self defense, not the next three.

Oh, r310?

Right-wing vigilantes and self-appointed militias from out-of-state who think they're entitled to kill you for shoplifting or a pedophilia charge you already served time for aren't "the Moral Majority," "nothing but a bunch of scolding harpies who operate on group think" "trying to police language" AND EVERYBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY?

The only difference between the Trumpers and the Rittenhouse scum of today versus the Moral Majority of the '90s is that NOW THE RIGHT-WINGERS BELIEVE THEY'RE ENTITLED TO KILL YOU FOR ANY OFFENSE and SUE YOU FOR YOUR ABORTION!

Republicans today are entitled to block what you say on Craigslist, what personal ads you can place on Craigslist and ban the freedom of adult association — including GAY SEX — entirely. Republicans are now ENTITLED TO COLLECT MONETARY DAMAGES FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S ABORTIONS, from the doctor, the clinic AND the complete stranger who had the abortion!!!

You want to tell me the right-wingers and Republicans today aren't moral scolds? You want to tell me the moral scold Republicans of today aren't WORSE than they've ever been?!

REPUBLICANS ARE NOW MORAL SCOLDS WITH THE POWER TO BAN BOOKS, BAN WEBSITES, BAN FREE SPEECH, SEIZE ALL POLICE, JUDGE AND JURY POWERS TO EXECUTE YOU UNILATERALLY FOR ANY CRIME HOWEVER THEY WANT AND TAKE MONEY FROM ANYONE INVOLVED IN ABORTIONS!!!

Don't tell me Republicans aren't fucking Nazis nowadays!

No Republican scolding going on here!

Fake News @ r314, which shows r314 knows nothing about this case and he's just making shit up.

Rittenhouse is on video telling the media the night of the shootings that he's an EMT, which he never was. It was a cover for right-wing busybody scolding, self-appointed police and execution powers, i.e. MURDER.

r312 = Sock puppet self-suck of the day.

BECAUSE RITTENHOUSE WAS OBSTRUCTING, TRESPASSING, BRANDISHING ASSAULT RIFLES AND WAVING GUNS IN PEOPLE'S FACES, r319.

THEN RITTENHOUSE CHARGED THE SOUND OF GUNSHOTS A BLOCK AWAY THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM, BLOODTHRISTY AND WITH THE CLEAR INTENT TO KILL, so the first victim was acting in self and crowd defense!

AN EMT IS LICENSED, DUMBFUCK @ r325!!!!

You're an unlicensed liar!

[quote]All progressive, correct-thinking people gave the 2020 riots a pass.

Are you talking about this riot?

That was a conservative pass, hon.

That was a 2021 riot, hon.

And I made a distinction between the 2020 daytime protests and the nighttime riots.

The McCloskeys are there, waiting outside for the verdict. Fat Midwestern white vigilante trash show support for each other!

And you still stand by "All progressive, correct-thinking people gave the 2020 riots a pass", r376?

I’m worried they’re going to convict Kyle which is basically a lynching for defending himself from violent anarchists.

r373, fyi, when you type your message in all caps, you’ve already lost.

If you or Bile Shittenhouse want to do something about it, then you'll have to join the police force first, r359.

And both of you had better learn to disguise your sociopathy better if you want stand any chance of passing the tests.

Let's all just take a breather and look at Henry Cavill's butt for a moment.

And you also make a distinction between Republicans and Democrats, hon @ r376.

Everyone has to obey the law and order except Trump, cops, Republicans and armed, right-wing vigilantes.

[quote] His first shot hit Joseph Rosenbaum's groin and fractured his pelvis, putting him on the ground and immobilizing him. Rosenbaum wasn't going to get back up and keep chasing him, the immediate threat was gone. Why didn't Rittenhouse just walk or run away? Why did he stay and put three more shots into him instead?

Rosenbaum was moving while Rittenhouse was firing, so it’s not Rittenhouse’s fault for whatever position Rosenbaum was in when each of the bullets struck him. As you know, but pretend not to, there was no intermission between shots, no physical examination possible in those few seconds in which the shots were fired.

LMFAO

Sure Jan r384.

Rosenbaum was a convicted pedophile. He raped at least one preteen boy and molested 4 more preteen boys. Why are people even lamenting the death of a pedophile on DL?

There's no "riot pass" being handed out here!

Missouri just rubber-stamps Josh's beefcake posters!

Republicans never issue passes for rioting and there's nothing about Madison Cawthorn that's Nazi-like.

Another tired and completely irrelevant "Nazi" accusation in 3, 2, 1 ...

[quote] Why are people even lamenting the death of a pedophile on DL?

Only the psychotic anti-Rittenhouse people are.

Why are right-wing sociopaths entitled to execute pedophiles who have already served their sentences with due process and legal authority?

Why do conservative scumbags on this board lamenting the conviction of a sociopath who PUNCHES GIRLS REPEATEDLY FROM BEHIND?

Watch this video of a true, American "hero."

And then watch Kyle Rittenhouse getting STOMPED after he punched that girl.

This is what's going to happen to you, Boris, if you don't start minding your own business and abiding by the law. If Republicans don't have to obey the law, the rest of the country is not going to let Republicans lord over them and you'll get the Purge you're angling for.

And the conservative country dumbfucks WILL LOSE.

You just don't have enough numbers.

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Those Capitol rioters were held to an entirely different standard. The left took control of the narrative by calling it an insurrection and yet the right didn't say anything about left wing insurgents who rioted for months. The left is better at messaging than the right.

R384 Very sane, eloquent response. Rosenbaum was physically larger, displaying behavioral symptoms of mental illness, and threatening his life. People who defend people like him have been possessed by a cult like mentality.

R312 For people with Trump and Fox News' balls in their mouths--like yourself. Again, the gun was purchased illegally and given to a minor--just like if some toilet baby begged an adult to purchase him a six-pack from 7-11.

R394 Yeah, that's because the rioters weren't storming the capital to interfere with AN ELECTION on the word of a former POTUS. THAT'S a cult. I mean...the Right loves irony and hypocrisy, don't you? You guys eat it for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

So how many trolls are we REALLY wasting our time responding to here, DL? I love how they high-five each other after each post.

Go back to posting Henry Cavill's butt, r386.

Go back to defending pedophiles R397! Maybe it hits a little too close to home for you when one of your own dies?

At this point, that dead pedo is getting more sympathy than you R398. JEALOUS?

Tons of Democratic politicians condemned the riots, r394.

Name one, Democratic Party official who supported the riots.

R396 Yet no one on the right are defending those who stormed the Capitol, and even the fringe right are not defending those who destroyed property. Yet people like you still refuse to call the rioters what they actually were. Many of the Capitol rioters are still rotting in jail. There is no bail fund. Even for the ones who were ultimately charged with trespassing.

The left could have stopped the summer riots but they did nothing. Political leaders didn't enforce curfews, told police to stand down, media continued to fan the flames for ratings. Those running for president did not condemn them unlike the Capitol riot which was condemned immediately. AOC get to whine about fearing for her life despite not being in any danger.

You're the hypocrite. You can't indulge the whims of the mob and act so shocked when you get pushback.

The way you talk to yourself and kiss your own ass through sock puppet accounts is very sane and eloquent, r395.

I should have thought of that! I'm joining your cult-like mentality today.

R399 with pedos like you supporting your fellow pedos, no I'm not jealous. I wouldn't want someone like you anywhere near me or a school zone for that matter.

You mean join you in defending the pedos YOU defend, r398?

Why does r398 defend this pedo?

Why hasn't r398 shot and killed this pedo yet?

He's breaking the law and order.

Where's the picture of you R405 & R406? You know you're pedophile at this point.

Why hasn't r398 killed this pedophile yet?

R40, The media sure condoned the “fiery but peaceful” riots in Kenosha.

[quote]Yet no one on the right are defending those who stormed the Capitol

You're such a fucking idiot. They are not only defending them, they are literally calling them patriotic heroes.

Three cheers for the Grand, Old Pedophiles!

R409 I like how you're furiously googling pedophiles so that Google can identify you later to the FBI.

There are pedophiles in both parties. Such as President Biden who molested his daughter Ashley and Matt Gaetz.

THE ENTIRE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS IN BOTH HOUSES OF CONGRESS DEFENDED THE CAPITOL RIOT!!!!

Mohammed Atta, who had idolized pilots since he was young, boarded an American Airlines flight in Boston on September 11, 2001, with at least one mission: to achieve his dream of flying a plane. The day would end with him fatally killing over 1400 people.

GOP officials defending the Capitol riot.

[quote]You know you're pedophile at this point.

You're really coming off as disturbed, r408.

Pro-crime Republican politicians strike again!

R415 you need to take a break from your rage typing. Get your fatass out of your chair, go take that shower you've been putting off for 2 weeks, change your crusty clothing, and go take your lithium.

Then go find a job that doesn't pay hourly or requires you to say "Welcome to Walmart!"

[quote]I like how you're furiously googling pedophiles so that Google can identify you later to the FBI.

I like how you have no other response to those examples all being right wing, r413.

Fake News @ r414.

Notice how it never links to proof.

F&F

Classic projection @ r420.

R422, There is a media blackout on Ashley Biden’s diary. So if I can’t link you to CNN or MSNBC you’re going going to dismiss it. What’s the point? Google for yourself.

R421 I DON'T like how worship and praise a pedophile like Rosenbaum. You make it seem like he's your mentor at this point. I can't believe you're going to be jerking off to him later.

Disgusting.

[quote]President Biden who molested his daughter Ashley and Matt Gaetz.

OMG! Separately, or at the same time?

[quote]I DON'T like how worship and praise a pedophile like Rosenbaum

Where is there a single post in this thread worshiping and praising Rosenbaum, r425?

[quote]You make it seem like he's your mentor at this point. I can't believe you're going to be jerking off to him later.

That's just puerile. Grow up.

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[quote]with pedos like you supporting your fellow pedos, no I'm not jealous. I wouldn't want someone like you anywhere near me or a school zone for that matter.

Rosenbaum's past doesn't matter. Rittenhouse had no idea who he was shooting. He could have shot a doctor for all he knew. And let's say it was a doctor...would your reaction be any different? And, Rosenbaum was handed down a sentence and that didn't include being murdered by Rittenhouse.

I'm not defending a pedo, I'm defending the rule of law...Something you've seemed to have forgotten that we are a nation of.

[quote] Rittenhouse had no idea who he was shooting. He could have shot a doctor for all he knew. And let's say it was a doctor...would your reaction be any different?

Yes, although it wouldn’t take anything away from Rittenhouse’s sound claim of self-defense.

[quote] Rittenhouse had no idea who he was shooting. He could have shot a doctor for all he knew.

What the fuck would a doctor or anyone who had anything to lose be doing at a riot? It's no surprise that convicted pedophiles and domestic abusers were among the ones causing the most chaos.

[quote] The only difference between the Trumpers and the Rittenhouse scum of today versus the Moral Majority of the '90s is that NOW THE RIGHT-WINGERS BELIEVE THEY'RE ENTITLED TO KILL YOU FOR ANY OFFENSE and SUE YOU FOR YOUR ABORTION!

President Biden calling Rittenhouse a white supremacist isn't the first time political leaders have put their own weight on the scales of justice. Would they prepare a National Guard response if Rittenhouse was guilty or if he was convicted? So all these people complaining about vigilante justice can just shove it. If you really cared about justice, you would not be calling to defund police and allowing those people you find reprehensible to still get a fair trial.

And forgive me if I don't see the issue of abortion as important as targeting parents as domestic threats because they have a different opinion on race or gender identity, or on how their kids should be educated.

[quote] REPUBLICANS ARE NOW MORAL SCOLDS WITH THE POWER TO BAN BOOKS, BAN WEBSITES, BAN FREE SPEECH, SEIZE ALL POLICE, JUDGE AND JURY POWERS TO EXECUTE YOU UNILATERALLY FOR ANY CRIME HOWEVER THEY WANT AND TAKE MONEY FROM ANYONE INVOLVED IN ABORTIONS!!!

Banning books from being taught in public schools is not banning them. Those books on CRT are freely available and used in academic institutions. The left is literally removing certain words and changing pronouns.

[quote] What the fuck would a doctor or anyone who had anything to lose be doing at a riot? It's no surprise that convicted pedophiles and domestic abusers were among the ones causing the most chaos.

You're right. I hope there are more riots so I can go shooting as well. Pedophiles, doctors..I don't care who gets in my way. It's more important that I am able to defend myself and put my gun to use at these events.

Stop feeding that troll. You're just adding to his psychosis.

r425 is still waiting for JFK Jr to appear.

R400: here’s the answer to your question re:

[quote] Name one, Democratic Party official who supported the riots.

It's past time to make the NRA's worst nightmares come true and just take all the guns out of civilian hands. Clearly they don't have the maturity, emotional stability or common sense to handle them.

As much as I hate posting a link from TikTok, this lawyer posts an excellent video. He sums up the argument that Rittenhouse is guilty by analyzing the evidence vs. the law. No politics involved.

Fly kick man identified

[quote] It's past time to make the NRA's worst nightmares come true and just take all the guns out of civilian hands

Been tried, didn't work

I heard the jump-kick man was willing to testify if the prosecution gave him immunity for his other crimes but the prosecution declined to do so.

Jennifer Rubin is a registered Republican.

On a similar note, Jennifer Rubin is an opinion writer for the Washington Post.

Not a registered Democrat or an elected politician.

Other than that your claim that she represents Democratic party policy is nearly flawless!

Jennifer Rubin is embarassing but she works for Jeff Bezos so maybe she's clever enough to know where her bread is buttered.

R439, that is one of WORST analyses of this case I have heard. That guy doesn't even get facts correct so he is comparing completely different circumstances and ignoring essential facts and the complete law on provocation. Sorry but he is an idiot. ​I guess everyone wants their 15 minutes of fame over this case. He'd have been better off doing a happy bear strip tease for those 2 minutes.

First, his description of provocation is incorrect. I don't believe there was provocation. But for argument's sake even if Rittenhouse had "provoked" Zaminksy - of course, they did not produce evidence at trial to show he did and they could have done that by putting Zaminsky on the stand to say that - you do not lose your right to self defense if you retreat from that alleged provocation - Rittenhouse on video retreated 3x from what the prosecution tries to claim was provocation.

So that kills that provocation argument.

Further, the prosecution is trying to argue transferred intent on the provocation from Zaminsky to Rosenbaum, again with no evidence to show that. First, that is a very strained legal theory to make. In addition to the problem with the legal theory, there is no evidence of any kind that Rosenbaum was aware of the alleged act of provocation by Rittenhouse.

You know, you need evidence of things. Not just some speculation, 'well it could have happened that way.' That is not evidence.

But I appreciate the opportunity to bust another lazily done and incorrect legal analysis.

Are the facts really so hard to get correct? This case is over a year old. What os wrong with these people, especially so called journalists.

R442: I think that’s rather wise on the part of the prosecution

[quote] According to online court records, Jump Kick Man has a criminal record that dates back more than two decades, with multiple felony convictions for car theft, ID theft, drug possession, and escaping custody. Given this and a recent prior conviction for misdemeanor battery (and a subsequent probation revocation), Jump Kick Man should have been sentenced to at least some jail time following his most recent conviction.

Those who trot out Bush era Republicans in order to prove that the left hasn't become more autocratic aren't helping their case at all. We recognize that both have similar tendencies and share the same powerful interests.

R445: when I listen to Ms Rubin, I get a distinct sense that her mental health isn’t in the best place. It’s hard to explain, but if she were a friend of mine, I would gently but firmly encourage her to seek psychiatric help

Rittenhouse will be at Mar-A-Lago this weekend taking photos with Trump and Hannity. Wait and See. I'm surprised the judge didn't let Kyle come and sit on his lap while he was giving the Jury Instructions.

Kyle can be the son Trump never had.

[quote] The majority of America likely believes Kyle Rittenhouse shot two black men and not two white pedos. The majority of America likely believes Kyle Rittenhouse shot two black men and not two white pedos. That's how criminal our media is.

R283 wow, somehow I thought the dead guys were black, there was a riot so I just assumed they were black. I am not sure you can pin the blame on the media though since I didn't follow the news at all about this case.

R452 here, I mean I was the poster at R281, don't know how I signed it as 119

From August last year: Kenosha being burned down

"Black Millennial" keeps tagging himself & calling himself racist. See R177 R321.

That's how smart he is.

If the jury doesn't reach a verdict today, I wouldn't be surprised if the Judge takes Kyle out for some ice cream to cheer him up.

You just know there are right-wing trolls here when there's screaming about PeDoPhiLeS!!! (a popular QAnon topic).

r386 I don't care who Kyle killed, I think everyone at those protests are completely retarded people with no life who want to feel part of something. Community of retards playing capture the flag with real guns.

Guns off the fucking streets. Police need to police. Guns are for hunting and home defense. I won't own one. It's for retards. The statistics are clear. I instead invest my money in a home is a safe zip code.

Guns and rioting are like tattoos. Fucking gross for ghetto and white trash.

Prosecutor = "You cannot claim self defense for a situation that you create".................Rittenhouse = "He touched my gun"

[quote] You just know there are right-wing trolls here when there's screaming about PeDoPhiLeS!!!

What label do you give the people who support or mourn the pedophile?

I don't see how the fact that the guy was a pedophile is even relevant to whether or not Rittenhouse had a justifiable reason for shooting him.

R462 It's not. They have NOTHING else, and they're running out of troll jizz from ejaculating after each post. I say we let this thread die.

r462, it’s not relevant to the fact that Rittenhouse had to use deadly force in self-defense to protect himself from Rosenbaum. That’s not the question. The question is why are people supporting Rosenbaum, the pedophile, over the kid who almost became the next of Rosenbaum’s child victims. It’s twisted that in a fight between Rittenhouse and Rosenbaum, the pedophile, that some people would champion Rosenbaum.

R460, no. He cannot use that defense because he created that situation.

R465, wrong.

Even if he did create a situation one regains the right to claim self defense if one retreats. So even if you mistakenly believe this prosecutor's latest theory that he created the situation, he regained it after he retreated, which he did three times in regard to Rosenbaum.

Please stop plaing lawyer.

There was only one guy with an AR-15. Rosenbaum was mentally ill. What about the guy he shot?

other ^^

[quote] I don't see how the fact that the guy was a pedophile is even relevant to whether or not Rittenhouse had a justifiable reason for shooting him.

Because violent pedophiles are likely to reoffend, and when Kyle encountered him, he was already breaking the law, and threatening a minor.

This is a pretty non biased retelling of events as they unfolded in real time. I had no idea that Rosenbaum fired his gun first.

Ziminski fired his gun at Rittenhouse as he was retreating. I don’t get how people can possibly not see that this is self defense.

The Britisher has a good run-down of the case.

Kyle Rittenhouse prosecutors HELD BACK high-def drone footage of Kenosha shootings from defense and gave them low quality video - sparking them to file mistrial motion that could see teen walk free

Assistant District Attorney Thomas Binger initially shared low quality drone footage from the night of the shooting with the defense

The defense claims Binger only shared the high-definition footage after evidence had closed on Saturday

According to a motion filed today by the defense, 'The problem is the prosecution gave the defense a compressed version of the video'

'What that means is the video provided to the defense was not as clear as the video kept by the state,' the motion states

Lawyers for Rittenhouse filed their motion for mistrial with prejudice based on this and several other grounds

The motion states that this larger file was not provided to the defense 'until after the trial concluded'

It reads, 'During the jury instructions conference, the defense played their version of the video for the court to review. The state indicated their version was much clearer and had their tech person come into court to have the court review their clearer video. The video is the same, the resolution of that video, however, was not.'

In fact, the state did not provide the larger file until two days before closing arguments and after the evidence had been closed.

The video footage has been at the center of this case. The idea that the state would provide lesser quality footage and then use that footage as a linchpin in their case is the very reason they requested and were granted the provocation instruction by the Court.'

Lawyers for Rittenhouse filed their motion for mistrial with prejudice based on this and several other grounds.

They had already raised the issue of 'prosecutorial misconduct' and 'over-reach' for Binger's behavior when he 'violated' Rittenhouse's constitutional right to remain silent by suggesting that he had done so that he could 'tailor' his story to fit the facts as they emerged during trial.

And for his bid to enter evidence into trial that had already been excluded by the judge. Both transgressions came the day that Rittenhouse testified and saw Judge Schroeder furiously admonish the prosecutor telling him, 'This better stop.'

Now, in the motion filed Monday, Rittenhouse's defense team has re-iterated Corey Chirafisi's contention in court that Binger's behavior was 'clearly intentional' and 'prejudicial.'

For his part Judge Schroeder did not accept Binger's insistence that he acted 'in good faith' snapping, 'I don't believe you.'

According to the defense, 'The failure to provide the same quality footage in this particular case is intentional and clearly prejudices the defendant.'

The trial had additional video that showed Rosenbaum about a foot away from Rittenhouse reaching for his gun. Rittenhouse was no threat as he was running away so Rosenbaum who was suicidal was doing a pretty insane thing.

Does anyone else think Rittenhouse’s face looks a bit like Gail Russell’s?? This has been nagging at a corner of my mind for a while.

Some new debate about what video evidence should be given to jury:

The jury wanted to rewatch some footage so they cleared courtroom of everyone (including judge) for them to do so.

Gail Russell almost killed at least 4 people (drunk driving incidents), so she had that in common with Kyle.

Gail Russell’s driving skills

Defense team asking for mistrial

The prosecution/persecution has made Rittenhouse and his mother suffer enough. It’s time for a mistrial.

Do they need a break from reality? Because if there’s a mistrial declared it just goes through the whole thing again, before different jurors.

Mistrial, with extreme prejudice, please.

Mistrial is definitely possible. I can imagine a group of 12 people never agreeing on this.

Watching this trial has made me think that, even though I’m a nice person, if forced to practice law I’d rather be a prosecutor than a defense attorney. You wouldn’t have to defend scummy people, like Rittenhouse, etc.

The Defense attorney was discussing mistrial without prejudice- meaning it would be retried. They’re upset some drone footage turned over to them got compressed somehow and doesn’t show as much detail as the original, and the State is like, “Bitch, that piece of evidence was entered months and months ago… if your shitty computer compressed the data it’s not our fault!”

Rittenhouse looks like a big blob of cheap mayonnaise.

It’s weird for the judge not to rule on a motion for a mistrial before sending the case to the jury.

[quote] if forced to practice law I’d rather be a prosecutor than a defense attorney. You wouldn’t have to defend scummy people, like Rittenhouse, etc.

Well you chose the easier side but judging the client isn't the attorney's role. The Constitution of the United States is not just for people you like.

Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense

I’m gonna run into Dan Abrams Live tonight for his legal analysis.

R486 doll, you have no idea what the typical run of criminal defendants is like for defense attorneys and public defenders. No fucking idea. At least Rittenhouse has a credible defense to offer.

Most criminal defendants are guilty (of something), even if the prosecutor overcharged, and the defense job is to get the best deal for the client possible.

The defense attorney can’t undo any of the facts — just present the best version possible and get the best result for the client that the law allows.

I would hate to be a prosecutor and have to prosecute innocent people like Rittenhouse. Even worse, if the defendant were actually guilty, they might come after you after they get out of the hoosegow.

[quote]R489 It’s weird for the judge not to rule on a motion for a mistrial before sending the case to the jury.

It may be moot. The jury may come back with a verdict that pleases the Defense. So it’s premature right now.

A not guilty verdict on all counts is the best result for the defense.

Leslie Van Houten and Kyle Rittenhouse share headlines in the same week.

Coincidence?

Rittenhouse was able to stop three people from killing, but no one stopped Van Houten.

He was the only person there who killed anyone. So…

I think not.

He will forever have a target on his back, whether he is imprisoned or not. I look forward to reading the headlines when someone finally decides enough is enough and helps him transcend this realm.

R500 = Don't get your hopes up. We said the same thing about George Zimmerman and nothing ever happens to these guys.

Assistant DAs make shitty salaries. Not even six figures.

Speaking of idiots with guns, GOP Ohio just removed the background checks and training for concealed carry... 21 other states have already done the same. So much for the Brady Bill...

If this babyfaced little bitch goes to prison he will not last a single month.

R504 = Are you kidding? You think the Guards won't be protecting little Kyle?

Summary

Sad AND Scary

Jeez, the Russian trolls are pretty clearly out in force here.

Anyway, serious question, what does being unable to come to a verdict suggest? Good or bad for Rittenhouse?

R508 I think bad for him in the sense that, if he’s looking for exoneration, it isn’t happening. This might end up with a hung jury.

The jury could be making sure for appearances that they are exhaustively deliberating every point of the case before they do the right thing and acquit Rittenhouse.

Maybe a hung jury.

That is so stupid R510. No way anyone on sitting on a jury wants to be there any longer than they have to be. People want to get back home and back to their lives, not sitting in a stuffy room for endless hours arguing with strangers.

R297, So anyone who might try to take down an escaping shooter is himself deserving of ALSO being shot by the shooter?

R513, They we’re shooting at him first moron. He was entreated several times yet they still kept at it.

R514 Yes, two UNarmed guys were totally shooting at poor Kyle first!

I wonder how long a jury of DataLoungers would take.

Even a minor crime like draining pasta would require years of debate.

R515, Rosenbaum was rolling with Ziminski who most certainly did shoot at Kyle first as he was running away from them.. Huber charged at him when he thought his gun was jammed, etc. yes.

I feel there's no way to get 12 people to agree on a verdict for this case.

R516 knows nothing about this case other than the sound bites that he probably gets from The View or something.

[quote] So anyone who might try to take down an escaping shooter is himself deserving of ALSO being shot by the shooter?

It’s not as complicated or grey as you might suggest. In a fight there’s an aggressor and a defender. The roles could flip during the fight depending on what happens. The jury has to decide which is which at the time of the killing and then the defender may be entitled to the protection of self-defense. So once the jury has appropriately determined that Rosenbaum was the aggressor, then it is Rittenhouse who is the one who can claim self-defense.

I meant that for r515

R521 / R519 / R517 / R514 Projection much?

It is a FACT that both men (Rosenbaum & Huber) were unarmed. I know it's hard to understand but...Rosenbaum & Ziminski are 2 different people.

You claimed that they were shooting at Kyle first, which is a complete lie since both men had NO GUNS.

Also, Ziminski fired a shot in the air, not at Kyle.

You're a typical right-wing liar.

R522, I am not a right winger I just know the actual facts of the case not the talking points. Do you still believe his mom drove him there and he crossed state lines with a gun to shoot peaceful protestors? Lmao.

Watch the video at r519and stop being a misinformed moron.

R523 You're the misinformed moron who watched a stupid YouTube video for information instead of following the case.

You misstated facts multiple times. And because of your lack of knowledge, you couldn't rebut my points about Rosenbaum, Huber, Ziminski.

And I never said anything about "his mom driving him" or "crossing state lines". So more projection from a fool.

R524, Dude I am actually streaming the trial not “following “ through sound bites of opinion based mainstream media. I linked the video because It does a pretty good job of laying out the events of this case without opinion.

R501 Are you kidding? Look up, Zimmerman. He's paying for it--just not the way we wanted--but karma crawled up his ass most definitely.

R522 We do know that he acquired a gun illegally. Don't we?

[quote] Huber charged at him when he thought his gun was jammed

R525 Also it was Grosskreutz who charged at Rittenhouse when he thought Rittenhouse's gun was jammed.

I've stated FACTS. Just because you don't like those facts, doesn't make them "sound bites of opinion based mainstream media".

I meant R523

[quote] It is a FACT that both men (Rosenbaum & Huber) were unarmed. I know it's hard to understand but...Rosenbaum & Ziminski are 2 different people.

You are wrong.

Once Rosenbaum put his hands on the gun or once he even started trying to get the gun from Rittenhouse he is no longer considered unarmed. A cop struggling with someone trying to get his gun would be justified in shooting that person.

Huber was armed with a skateboard which he used a number of times to hit Rittenhouse at least one of the hits was a strike to the neck and head. More people are killed by blunt objects in the US than an AR-15 style rifle.

Ziminsky and Rosenbaum had been acting in concert all evening. Along with Ziminsky's wife. Both Ziminskys were armed with guns. The video shows Rosenbaum and Ziminsky close together when Rittenhouse passed them before heading into the Car Source lot where he had been sent to guard.

Ziminski breaks off and heads toward the south part of the lot and Rosenbaum heads behind some cars toward the north part of the lot. They have effectively surrounded Rittenhouse. As Rittenhouse heads across the lot, Rosenbaum comes out from behind cars and stars to chase down Rittenhouse who is now running away from him and just as he closes in on Rittenhouse, Ziminski fires his gun on the lot. That's when Rittenhouse turns and sees Rosenbaum and retreats by running again away from Rosenbaum.

That was planned. Considering that Rosenbaum had earlier told Rittenhouse that he would kill him if he got him alone, it is reasonable to fear that Rosenbaum intend to kill Rittenhouse now that he had him alone (with his partner Ziminski firing a gun nearby) and was trying to get Rittenhouse's gun.

Further it would be reasonable to fear that Rosenbaum came into possession of one of the Ziminski's guns.

[quote] Once Rosenbaum put his hands on the gun or once he even started trying to get the gun from Rittenhouse he is no longer considered unarmed. A cop struggling with someone trying to get his gun would be justified in shooting that person.

R530 No, you are wrong. Simply trying to wrestle a gun is not considered being armed. Such a ridiculous argument.

Armed means the weapon is in your control and ready to be used. Wrestling for a gun--the gun is not in your control nor ready to be used. In your hypo, the cop would be justified because of fear to his life, not because the perp is now armed.

And it being reasonable that Rosenbaum could've come into possession of Ziminski's gun does not change the fact that Rosenbaum was actually unarmed.

Why did KR go there with an AR-15 in the first place?

My Old Frau guess is: To shoot people.

An AR-15 to "defend" oneself against a skateboard? Speaking of which, what would any of you "defense experts" do if you had a Black teen approach you carrying and/or pointing such a weapon at you? Might you try to defend YOURSELF with whatever you had, like a skateboard?

Or would you just let that hypothetical AR-15-carrying Black teen wade further into the crowd?

Kyle Rittenhouse wasn't there to protect property. He wasn't there to give medical aid (puh-lease).

Kyle Rittenhouse had a friend illegally buy him an assault weapon to do just that:

Assault.

[quote]r530 A cop struggling with someone trying to get his gun would be justified in shooting that person.

So now the underage teen has the authority of a police officer?

He doesn’t need the authority of a police officer if someone is actively trying to take his gun. Civilians have the same rights in that case.

Even after they’ve already shot someone in a crowd?

Nobody had been shot when Rosenbaum attempted to take the gun from Rittenhouse.

And Victims 2 and 3?

R324 ....Aaand who asked?

Let's just be frank here. There are large factions of people who would have enjoyed watching Rosenbaum kill Rittenhouse because they find a MAGA Trump supporter more distasteful than a pedophile.

[quote] Why did KR go there with an AR-15 in the first place?

I know that’s mystifying and even triggering to a portion of the country. To those people it’s incredible to see a person who isn’t a police officer have a gun, and in plain sight. Also, it’s incomprehensible to those people why anyone would have a gun, especially a rifle. I don’t have a gun and never would, but I understand why people have them. I think people who don’t understand never will, and it’s best just to let those people know that it’s not unusual for people to own and carry guns. It is what it is.

I hope this all ends soon and whatever the verdict is Rittenhouse disappears. It probably wont happen, but I'm sick and tired of hearing about it.

The ones who annoy me are the ones who ask what Rittenhouse was doing there and not asking the same thing of the rioters. The ones who truly make me sick are the ones who say they were peaceful protestors or seeking racial justice.

Oh, I’m sure there’s more you could say, r542.

Get it all out. Show your face.

R542 Maybe you're right, but none of those rioters and looters are on trial for killing anyone.

The gun charges were dismissed because he wasn’t breaking the law under which he was charged. The law didn’t fit the crime. First degree murder…now that’s something else entirely.

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[quote] Simply trying to wrestle a gun is not considered being armed. Such a ridiculous argument.

No I am not wrong. In a self defense case once they have gone for your gun he is not considered unarmed.

So if someone is holding me up with a gun and I went for the gun and accidentally shot them, that’s not self defense?

Judge in Kyle Rittenhouse trial bars MSNBC from courtroom after man working for the network follows jury bus

R549, If you disarmed the robber and shot them that was self-defense.

But if you claim it was an accident then that is not self-defense.

Please please do not speak to the police until you talk to a lawyer. You'll fuck up any defense you have. LOL!

Of course, your premise is not analogous to the Rittenhouse case.

R546 wins the argument. It's obvious that the man with the skateboard was trying to stop this kid from shooting and killing anyone else.

And seems like Kyle and the drop kick man have a lot in common. They both like to punch and throw girls down on the ground and stomp on them.

MSNBC is not a legitimate news source.

I guess you’re thinking Tass News is r553.

Cronkite at r547, we knew that two days ago.

[quote] It's obvious that the man with the skateboard was trying to stop this kid from shooting and killing anyone else.

LMAO!

[quote] Among other priors there's this domestic violence. “Huber grabbed his brother by the neck, dug his nails in and choked him for approximately ten seconds,” the lawyer said. “He put a knife to his brother’s left ear and his brother felt it cut.” “I’m going to burn the house down with all you fuckers in it." Huber was criminally charged for the incident and took a plea deal on a strangulation and suffocation charge.

FOX NEWS is not a legitimate news source.

NONE of the corporate news media are legitimate news sources.

What are your trusted news sources, r558?

The fact that the jury is taking this long is very good news. A Conviction is coming but will Judge Drama Queen declare a mistrial before he lets his favorite accused killer get convicted.?

For there to be justice, yes, the judge would have to declare a mistrial if the prosecution somehow succeeded in tricking the jury into voting guilty.

I'm certain the jurors wish the judge would declare a mistrial. Not many would want to take the heat for acquitting him.

The people outside trying to intimidate and tamper with the jury deliberations should be arrested.

R562 Given that people in this thread alone have strong views both ways, why is it hard for you to believe that some of the jurors probably think he's guilty?

[quote] Given that people in this thread alone have strong views both ways, why is it hard for you to believe that some of the jurors probably think he's guilty?

Because of jury intimidation and because only side is threatening to riot.

^One side

[quote] For there to be justice, yes, the judge would have to declare a mistrial if the prosecution somehow succeeded in tricking the jury into voting guilty.

Once a verdict is reached, that’s it. You can’t declare a mistrial once the trial is done.

I say put all these rioters (both “sides”) in a locked arena and let them fight it out to the death. They’re all guilty, and shitty, damaged people. I find it ridiculous to spend all this time, effort and money on this trial. It’s times like these I wish the motto was still “live by the sword, die by the sword.”

r567, yes, not mistrial, so what’s the correct term for when a judge has to reverse a conviction because no reasonable jury would find the defendant guilty, or the term for when a judge has to vacate the decision of the jury and grant a motion for a new trial because of misconduct by the prosecution? That’s what we would have to look at if the jury is tricked into wrongly finding Rittenhouse guilty, right?

R540, You are disingenuous, or else in need of reading comprehension.

I didn't ask WHy KR owned a gun, carried a gun, or even pointed a gun.

I asked, and rhetorically BTW, WHY Master Rittenhouse WENT TO KENOSHA with said assault weapon.

It wasn't to show off his ownership rights (which, when his friend was his Designated Buyer, were non-existent by law for his 17-year-old ass).

[quote] I asked, and rhetorically BTW, WHY Master Rittenhouse WENT TO KENOSHA with said assault weapon.

That’s an easy one, and one you would know the answer for if you watched the trial or read about what was happening in it. Rittenhouse didn’t go to Kenosha with the rifle. The rifle was already in Kenosha at the house of Dominick Black. Also, Rittenhouse was already in Kenosha the day of the shootings, having traveled there the previous day for work. It’s easy for you to be confused, since there have been so many lies on DL and in social media about Rittenhouse traveling to Kenosha with a gun.

R569, I don't think that there is such a thing. A conviction can be appealed, but I don't think that a judge can override the verdict. If he is found guilty of any of the charges, he would have to go through the usual appeals process.

[quote] A conviction can be appealed, but I don't think that a judge can override the verdict.

A judge has the authority to “set aside” a jury’s verdict.

r572, don't bother responding to r569. This is the only thread they're posting in and they're one of the *Rittenhouse is innocent and you're a pedophile if you ignore the victims' background* trolls. r569:

[quote][quote] You just know there are right-wing trolls here when there's screaming about PeDoPhiLeS!!!

[quote]What label do you give the people who support or mourn the pedophile?

R574 It's so cliche for conservatives to call liberals pedophile apologists or secret pedophiles because of the university professor talking about MAPS, people trying to lower the age of consent due to so called equitable justice or whatever, but I always dismiss that as a couple of loonies. What baffles me is you have more than a couple of extremists who are defending a convicted pedophile who was actually got threatening a minor. Sometimes, extremists just live up to their stereotypes.

Verdict is about to be announced.

not guilty on all counts. I told you

Well goodness gracious, who would have anticipated this.

[quote] who would have anticipated this.

Nobody who watched the media misinforming the audience

Wisconsin is the new Florida!

It reminds of when people didn’t want to believe the reports from DLers in the battleground states in 2016 that Trump was leading Hillary there. For this case, you had people on DL who wouldn’t accept the reality of the evidence proving that Rittenhouse acted in self-defense, no matter how many times other people spelled it out for them in detail why Rittenhouse was innocent beyond a reasonable doubt. Instead of referring to the deniers as anti-Rittenhouse, it may be more accurate to describe them as anti-reality.

R581 Lmao, keep typing bullshit fat, lying, magat cunt. This midget had no business going out armed so yes he's guilty on that count alone, And how about how you rethug dipshits refuse to believe your shitstain president is a one term loser and made up so many excuseslike fraud and fake votes etc. How embarrassing for you rethug dipshits.

No surprise. From day one, the judge made sure Kyle would be found not guilty.

But, expect a bunch of Kyle wannabe's . The floodgates has been open and MAGA vigilante's were just given the green light. I also expect that we will see Kyle in a courtroom sooner than later professing his innocence after committing another violent/deadly act.

[quote] But, expect a bunch of Kyle wannabe's . The floodgates has been open and MAGA vigilante's

Oh, dear!

I've just introduced legislation to declare Nov 19:

WHITE HOMOCIDAL INCEL DAY

MSNBC now trying to link the dead pedophile with the Freedom Riders of the 1960s

Say what?

Kyle Rittenhouse may be the only high profile murderer under 40 that has never had his own "would you do him?" thread on DL.

The night is young.

Man can was repeating their lies tonight in their coverage that he crossed state lines with a gun and that his mother drove him there.

Do people actually watch that channel thinking it’s factual news or do they watch solely to confirm their biases like the Fox News viewers do?

*msnbc

I had MSNBC on all afternoon. Their reporting was despicable.

how so r592? (didn't see it)

The protests being filmed and shared on social media from New York/Brooklyn have people chanting about George Floyd and defunding the police and burning down police stations. What the fuck do those things have to do with this verdict?

Watched MSNBC as well, r593. The antithesis of despicable. r592 is a troll.

I love Wisconsin!

[quote] Man can was repeating their lies tonight in their coverage that he crossed state lines with a gun and that his mother drove him there.

MSNBC and CNN have no problem knowingly stating false information on air. They only care about telling their viewer base what they want to hear. Their viewers aren’t interested in hearing the truth or anything that goes against their views and preferred narratives. Just like the majority of people on DL.

The fix was in even before the trial started. Tucker Carlson had a crew filming the whole thing to make a documentary and Rittenhouse had some very wealthy people funding the whole thing and paying his lawyer.

R598, Oh give me a break. The media did everything they could to demonize Rittenhouse even telling outright lies that they refuse to correct even as the trial proved they were lying.

A jury may have found his actions legally justifiable, but that doesn't make them right. Not by a long shot.