Single All The Way - Netflix Gay Christmas Movie

Any guesses as to how it ends?

In a way that will set off the Racist DL Vox Populi.

If Luke doesn't get naked and bare ass in this, then this whole movie is pointless.

Netflix is coming for your crown Hallmark. You're in danger gurrll

[quote] I think it looks cute!

You would.

The acting is worse than a parody.

So Michael Urie dumps gym hunk Luke Macfarland for this scrawny guy?

Michael Urie, Luke AND Jennifer Connelly bin one movie? Isn't that Homo Overload?

[quote]Jennifer Connelly bin one movie

Oh, dear.

Philemon Chambers is cute.

Did Michael Urie hear you bitches talking shit about him in this thread?

Haven't we moved past this sort of thing? It's like a gay version of Diffr'ent Strokes.

To paraphrase Aunt Sassy, I'd quite like to see that.

Between this and the Billy Eichner movie, Hollywood loves casting hunky Luke MacFarlane against these guys than in reality wouldn't date in real life.

Every gay knows you don't see guys who look like him chasing after guys who look like Michael Urie.

The meet cute is at the olde town glory hole during the Christmas 🎄 cookie bake-off just as the first fluffy snowflakes are ......🤢

You realists are all right. This movie should be 2 hours of Michael Urie drinking alone on Christmas Eve drunk texting former tricks. That’s the realism a gay Christmas movie demands. With a trip to a bathhouse.

[quote] Every gay knows you don't see guys who look like him (Luke M.) chasing after guys who look like Michael Urie.

Well, but sometimes.

[quote] Between this and the Billy Eichner movie, Hollywood loves casting hunky Luke MacFarlane against these guys than in reality wouldn't date in real life. Every gay knows you don't see guys who look like him chasing after guys who look like Michael Urie.

And in this movie Michael Urie is the one who dumps hunky Luke Macfarlane for the other dork. In what world does this happen?

Michael has aged a bit since Ugly Betty

Jesus Christ they’re still trying to make wall-eyed homely fag Michael Urie happen? She is 50 and needs to start playing the frail alcoholic uncle she was born to play.

Jesus Christ this looks abysmal. A parade of pansy-ass stereotypes.

I swear I read this as "Shingles All The Way'"....

[quote]Netflix is coming for your crown Hallmark. You're in danger gurrll

Uh...not really.

The now-classic Hallmark brand Christmas movies may not be great, but they have the perfect formula that audiences go for. Mostly they are romantic comedies "Capital ROM-lower case-com", meaning extra romance and just a touch of funny. There really isn't a need for gays or lesbians in a real Hallmark movie, even we gays get a fucking break from ourselves for a couple hours! We goof on these films but the Lifetime, ION, and Netflix copycats just don't achieve that schmaltzy, mug-cradling [italic]je ne sais quoi[/italic], do they?

As I posted before, I had a nice big role in one a few seasons ago (the lead actress' dad) and I look at our script all the time and see exactly how the pieces came together. It wasn't great but still rather perfect in its own Hallmark-fantasy way. It really was an education!

On our last day of shooting the big family scenes our leads planned and paid for an on-set Christmas cookies and hot cocoa party for the cast and crew. It actually brought a tear to my eye, I had grown so fond of everyone in those three sweltering weeks!

Boring story at r22

You add nothing r23.

Go back to your barstool and resume snarling at people having fun.

Why Michael Urie? Why not get a gay actor with a big fan base like Jonathan Groff or Dan Levy?

Who and who?

Groff and Levy are both ugly as shit, as ugly as Urie in fact. They’re also way too expensive for this shit, especially Levy. McFarland works all the time but his quote is low. I wonder if he’d crack 3 digits on an IQ test.

R26, Jonathan Groff is not ugly and he has a great ass.

These sugary sweet wholesome gay movies seem more for straight women than actual gay men.

Netflix is full of shit.

I'm obsessed with Jennifer Coolidge so I might watch it.

Oh I'll watch it. I have nothing better to do Christmas.

When this be cum out?

I'll watch if there is a surprise XXX scene where Philemon Chambers backs that ass up on Luke Macfarlane. Hey its Netflix!

In what world is Jonathan groff ugly as shit?

R26 - what kind of men are you surrounded by that you could find him ugly as shit? My god.

[quote]It's like a gay version of Diffr'ent Strokes.

What you talkin' about, girlfriend?

I vote for either Dan Levy or Micael Urie to play the titular role in the movie of "The Guncle".

When does it drop?

Who the hell does this appeal to? Why are they making such girly movies with gay men.

When did gay people start having heteronormative pressures? Ooooh I have to bring a date to my family’s house for Christmas!

Like wtf

[quote]Philemon Chambers is cute.

You got that right.

[quote]Who the hell does this appeal to? Why are they making such girly movies with gay men. When did gay people start having heteronormative pressures? Ooooh I have to bring a date to my family’s house for Christmas! Like wtf

Oh fuck off Mr SA/SL.

Reviews are coming out

NYT is unimpressed.

Dang r43. They hammer Michael Urie and Philemon Chambers over their utter lack of chemistry.

How it will end: Nick is a psycho killer who kills everyone with an ice pick. Merry Happy Holidays!

Will they ever adapt Jim Grimsley's wonderful gay romance novel Comfort & Joy? It was beautifully written with tragedy, drama, passion and bittersweetness to it. It was set during Christmastime and about a gay couple who were coming out to both sides of their family. Grimsley is like a gay Faulkner. There's a lot of gay literature I would like to see adapted properly. Maybe a remake of Object Of My Affection too. Gay relationships have more complexity to them. Not all the same as hetero relationships that have established gender roles and ingrained cultural norms in courtship.

Mae they could create characters we care about?

Mae?

Maybe.

: )

Thanks for the rec r46

Netflix Gay Christmas Movie

Those words should excite me, yet they fill me with dread.

Christmas romcoms aren't mean to be art, you know exactly what to expect. But if they have no chemistry that is a big problem for a rom com.

Gay rom coms are just harder to write convincingly. A lot of the hetero drama and misunderstandings that are the staple of the genre don't translate well onto gay male characters. I'm happy for the normalization of gay relationships though, so can't complain that much.

The one that Lifetime did last year with the confusingly-cast Fran Drescher (she was awesome, but also really, really Jewish) was terrific. Same off the shelf plot as every other one of them, but the chemistry between Blake Lee and Ben Lewis (who are married in real life) really sold it.

Chicago Tribune is also a no.

I love love love Michael Urie, so still look forward to seeing this. (Philemon Chambers is cute, too.) By the way, I agree with the poster above that the Fran Drescher movie from last year was terrific.

OMG I've just put it on and the first song is Girls Aloud's Not Tonight Santa!

This is going to be AMAZING.

Is it out?

R57, I think it's available for streaming starting today.

[quote]Is it out?

It is in the UK, but I found it by accident, not under New Releases or Trending.

Jennifer Coolidge takes 24 minutes to show up.

So half an hour in and I'm hoping Hot Gym Guy ends up with Black Best Friend.

Actually no, I'm not sure Black Best Friend deserves love or even hot sex after abandoning his beloved dog for more than a week to spend Christmas with his room mate's family, even if he does have Seasonal Dead Mother Grief disorder.

[quote]I swear I read this as "Shingles All The Way'"....

That'sh what I shaid! "Shingle All the Way"!

Is there a Straight Best Friend trope?

Ok, so is this deliberately written as a gay version of a Hallmark movie?

If so, then it kind of works because it's cheesy, endearing and boring in equal parts and ultimately a waste of time.

If not, then what a waste of a cast that deserves so much better.

And the Love Hard Meatloaf scene was approximately 86% better than the Britney scene in this.

Philemon Chambers on Starring as First Black Actor in an LGBTQ Christmas Rom-Com:

I don't know why this is being billed as an LGBTQ Christmas RomCom.

There are ZERO lesbians, ZERO Latinx trans women of color and ZERO bisexuals.

Boy have times changed. Back in high school, when my brother outed me after finding my porn stash and informed my parents and siblings that i liked black men (late 70s) they started a particularly nasty campaign of punishing,threatening and bullying me to get me to change. Now in this movie, members' of the white character's avg American family are trying to push him to become romantically involved with his black best friend. America in 2021.

JHC this is trash. It’s as if someone sat down before writing this and asked himself, “what’s the frau-iest pantry creamer bullshit that I can come up with?” But I guess I should’ve deduced that from the title.

Max Emerson is in this, he was promoting it on his instagram.

Could they not find 2 gay guys the same age?....Michael Urie is like 15 years older and looks closer to 20+ years older... In interviews Philemon is going with the "straight" actor playing a gay role. No thank you. Pass....

[quote] Max Emerson is in this, he was promoting it on his instagram.

Gross! This instantly deelevates it to trash. It’s like putting Kim Kardashian in your movie.

There’s a plot line about getting shirtless party boy influencers like Max to promote a product and the brand want normal people like Black Best Friend and Hot Gay Potential Love Interest.

I’m sure the director personally auditioned the influencers like Carrie Fisher in Soapdish.

So it’s putting down Max and making fun of his ilk? And he still did it?

I’m going to watch tomorrow. Thanks for sharing.

For such a straight hetero, Philemon is smelling an awful lot of cookies in his photo at R65.

What does Philemon digivolve into for his Champion form?

Does falling in love with your best friend happen with gays? I feel like with men, you know if you want to sleep with someone the minute you meet them. You don’t realize this years later. That only works with women.

I just watched 35 minutes of this movie, its horrible, couldn't not stand to finish watching it.

[quote] In interviews Philemon is going with the "straight" actor playing a gay role.

🙄 In all of Hollywood they couldn’t have found an out gay man to play the role???

That black actor doesn’ t seem very straight.

[quote] For such a straight hetero, Philemon is smelling an awful lot of cookies....

This is what he told the Hollywood Reporter-

[quote] For Chambers, who is Black and identifies as queer, the opportunity represents more than just a career leveling-up — it’s a game-changer.

[quote] “When I was growing up, I didn’t really know [I was gay,]” he says. “You kind of suppress it. And I did that for years. I tried to act very masculine.”

[quote] That secrecy extended into adulthood and his professional life, too.

[quote] “Back in the day,” he says, “and I’m new to the industry, but Michael remembered it too, you couldn’t really say who you were openly without judgment. And within the past five years, it’s becoming a thing [to be openly gay]. With Marvel having their first black gay character in Eternals, I mean, that speaks volumes from where we were. And I really cannot wait to see what happens in the next five years, when it will be normalized versus this thing that has to be a thing.”

[quote] Chambers credits Single All the Way with giving him the confidence to fully come out.

[quote]Chicago Tribune is also a no.

So does computer.

I'm watching it now. It's dreadful. It doesn't even have the stepford wives charm of Hallmark. There are talented actors in this. Well, it's a paycheck, but they must have been holding their noses everyday on the set. STINKO

Jack McFarland's character was the most interesting thing about this.

They didn't even give him a happy ending.

Good for Philemon coming out. He's handsome but I agree he looks too young.

Looks to young for what?

too young?

Not for what but for whom: Michael Urie looks and is much much older.

Would the movie be more realistic if Michael's character was paying Philemon's character to get dicked down?

LOL @ R72

[quote]Will you be having wine with dinner?

Mary r61! I swear some people have now become Nazis about pets. So now you aren't allowed to ever be separated from your pet.

Watching this now. I expected it to be worse by some of these posts, it's not good mind you, but as a gay hallmark movie it's what I expected so far.

I do agree that there is a noticeable age difference between Michael Urie and Philemon's character. But I guess that is fine.

What is annoying me more in ages is Kathy Najimy does not look like like she could be the mother of Jennifer Robertson.

Is he any relation to Luke MacFarlane r84?

Also the most unrealistic part of the movie was him asking Michael Urie up to his place and getting rejected. Girl, every guy would give it a ride and worry about the rest afterwards.

How much bare flesh does Luke show in this "film" is the million dollar question... If it's anything less than 75% of his body surface area, the this film is a hard pass.

Also……..Steve Lund playing yet another bisexual, which is fine by me.

Luke is wasted in this. No flesh whatsoever. AND HES PLAYING A FITNESS COACH.

R96 is correct r94.

They keep Luke's shirt on, have him in a tank and a tight t shirt.

There is a long shirtless scene from Philemon's character who is ripped.

Philemon is on display several times, gratuitously. He built but seems tiny of frame and height.

I semi-watched the whole rotten piece of shit, while I was doing other things. In the last half hour, some of the performances loosened up a bit. In the last hour, Jennifer Coolidge provides enough weirdness to distract some attention to how bad it all is. But even she is phoning it in. Kathy Najimy's character seems to be conceived as a stepford grandma and her performance is a travesty. It was nice to see Barry Bostwick looking well as an old man and his character and performance is likable.

What was annoying is his nieces and sisters trying to make him NOT be wtih Luke Macfarlane!!! Like anyone gay or straight would not want to be with him. His character was so hot, great body, masculine, and a nice guy

The NYT and Chicago Tribune reviews above were both written by women. The Guardian at least had a gay man review it. He was unimpressed.

I think one of the interesting things they left fully unexplored is that Michael Urie's character is UNLIKEABLE. And Michael played him as such. Who would want to be with this guy? Yet everyone ignores this. Only his mom says once or twice - why do you run away from love? The character has ZERO game. He's snarky and dismissive. So it's an accurate gay character WE ALL KNOW but it's not set into a network of friends and family and lovers and possible lovers who acknowledge who this character is.

Michael Urie is not even on the other guys level. Not to mention Michael is old enough to be his dad. This is what Netflix thought was good casting? Also why are hot black guys doing the ugly unkempt beards? Black Bachelor was doing one of those too...Gross.

💪🏽

Watched 30 minutes and got irritated by the lack of spark between the leads - the black actor was clearly cast for diversity, not chemistry.

Netflix recommended me Colton Underwood: Coming Out which is a lot more interesting, although the man is a dolt who thought he could come out to his pastor and receive love and sympathy. Instead, he gets told he's a sinner and he starts crying.

Yeah, the audience is given no reason why either guy wants to be with Michael Urie other than he is the main character of the movie r102. He isn't a great looking guy and he wasn't written to be funny/charming to where he has all these hunks fighting over him.

I never thought a movie could have too much Jennifer Coolidge, but this movie has too much Jennifer Coolidge. And her role is just a parade of set pieces that say “Look, Gays! Here’s everybody’s favorite fag hag fag-hagging it up for your pleasure! Like our movie!”

Watched it late last night as I did a crossword puzzle and quite enjoyed it, despite the obvious cheesiness.

At first I mistook Barry Bostwick for James Brolin! I loved Kathy Najimy in this! Was impressed that she avoided too much mugging and thought she was very believably cast as Michael Urie's mother even if the rest of the family looked like wandered in from some other Christmas movie. She really has remarkably kept all that excess weight off all these years and whatever plastic surgery she's had dome her face is very subtle and realistic.

Shocking that hack director Michael Mayer couldn't get Luke's shirt off, considering the character worked at a gym. In that silly scene at the bar when he gets food splashed all over his tight tee shirt I thought: Aha! Here it comes! But then the shirt stayed on - very disappointing.

It seemed to me like they never expected to land Jennifer Coolidge for the wacky aunt so her casting just didn't work very well with what she was asked to do.

I'd definitely recommend giving the film a look, especially if you've got a crossword puzzle or some knitting ort something to also focus on.

[quote]I'd definitely recommend giving the film a look, especially if you've got a crossword puzzle or some knitting ort something to also focus on.

I can't think of a gay experience! 🏳‍🌈🎅🏻🎅🏾

Ahem, r8.

This movie needed a Coco cameo.

I looked this up after seeing Max Emerson post about it on Instagram and the reviews are fair; it's not very good, but Christmas schlock usually isn't. I felt bad for Max after watching it because he made such a big deal about it being the first time he was able to travel in a year, and then he had to quarantine in a hotel in Montreal for 2 weeks(!), to have about 15 seconds of screen time and no real dialogue... only to play a sad version of himself in a scene that was set in Los Angeles. I mean, they could have shot that scene and those setting up Urie's character and backstory in LA, saving a ton of money but for Covid. Casting a fully-clothed Luke Macfarland was a waste. I also can't imagine having to work with Kyle Krieger, but that's just me.

Max Emerson and Kyle Krieger? WTF? Why is this film trying to legitimize these low life Instahoes. They do not define the gay experience.

As an old gay who simply watched the movie for a little easy fun, I had no idea who this Max and Kyle persons were. Do they play the shirtless models in the beginning with shaving cream on their faces?

Yep r113. I don't know what has r112 so riled up, they are barely in the movie.

Just finished.

Stickly sweet, some lovely moments and just your typical classic Christmas movie.

3.5/5

If they stayed in New Hampshire with MacFarlane around the block, they would end up trying to jnvite him for threesomes in no time.

Holiday wank stocking trash

The movie is cute. It's totally gay Hallmark and I am OK with that.

I think Luke MacFarlane is adorable and a good actor. I loved him on Brothers and Sisters and I don't understand why he doesn't have a higher-profile career. But aesthetically, I think he's so cute and I wish he were still built like he was on Brothers and Sisters instead of a big ol' bodybuilder as he is now.

Jennifer Coolidge may be a bit of a one-trick pony, but she is so goddamn funny. She always makes me laugh out loud and she's usually the only one among her castmates who does.

R119 I agree but in this she literally seemed like she was on drugs or having a mental episode (unless that was the character??). She broke into weird accents for no reason and borderline abused the kids in the Xmas pageant.

I could only make it through about 10 minutes.

Way too cutesy for me.

[quote]Holiday wank stocking

Pics please.

R120 That's her one trick! From The White Lotus to Legally Blonde to Friends, she always does the funny faces and the screwy pronunciations and the funny/unnerving over-the-top tonal shifts. It always works for me. I always get annoyed that she is always a side character and not a starring lead, but she'd be too much to take doing that as a lead.

R123 can you believe she was Jerry's girlfriend rhe Masseuse ("I don't submit to forcible massage!") on Seinfeld?

Yes - she can be funny, but think Cooliidge's bit would be too much for a lead role. She was perfect Chris Guest ensembles like in Best in Show where she would be on for a few minutes and then they would go to other characters.

Sometimes I find myself watching repeats of Two Broke Girls in a can't look away from an accident sort of way. It is a bad show, but cannot decide whether the cast is bad or actually have good comedic timing and know how to play the bad material. Maybe the later, since I do find myself not turning the channel. As much as I like Coolidge, I usually do not find her that funny in this, maybe because she is paired with what could be the one character I think is straight out bad with no redeeming comedic timing with bad material.

God, this movie was awful. I never even chuckled, let alone cracked a smile. There was just so much wrong with this, I don't even know where to start.

It's in Netflix's top 10 globally. Lots of people love a romantic holiday trifle.

They should have just made the cast black. Jake from State Farm instead of Michael Urie, Drake instead of Luke MacFarlane, Jill-Marie Payton as somebody's mama, and Jenifer Lewis somewhere up in there.

I felt "some kinda way" about the premise of the gay-friends-must-be-lovers-with-intervening-straight-matchmakers at first but then I remembered that for a decade gay male characters would be the ones relegated to being sexless matchmakers for straight best friends who are unwittingly in love and decided it's OK. I enjoyed the movie. It's a Hallmark/Lifetime confection.

For god sakes, just enjoy the movie for what it is.

If you want a deeper gay story go watch THE POWER OF THE DOG.

#FarmOnMyFace

R130 That's like saying, "Enjoy this steaming pile of feces for what it is - a steaming pile of feces."

I'm not into scat.

The lesbian one last year was better. Which isn't saying much.

I hated how the lead character demanded all the attention at his family gathering. He didn't give squat about anybody else.

He was a predictable narcissist.

Replacing the mother's tree was a bitch move

It took me about 3 days to get through this entire movie. At first I thought the lack of romantic chemistry was down to them both seeming like best friend bottoms. But no.....nothing else connected except for their portrayal of a good friendship; and I actually liked their friendship. Yet the build up was everyone trying to convince the viewer that these two were obviously in love with each other. For whatever it's worth, it's no worse than any other Hallmark 'rinse & repeat' Christmas movie that literally plays all year long. Kudos to whoever decided to try something a tiny bit more diverse than the usual suspects. Perhaps that was down to Netflix. For some reason the do-rag was the funniest parts the movie for me.

The Schitt's Creek lady playing Kathy Najimy's daughter is only 14 years younger than Kathy Najimy.

It tried way too hard. 60% Fresh on Rotten Tomatoes. It was what it was and I reluctantly appreciated that.

At least it was Gay-affirming and gave Jennifer Coolidge, who was still belching from all that scenery, a chance to wink at her gays with her little sofa monologue.

The script however was DREADFUL.

R138 Script, acting, direction - all dreadful.

This movie really wasn’t gay (or “gay-affirming”) at all. Its central premise was extolling the wisdom of suburban white women. First Kathy Najimy orchestrates a blind date with her son and a local stud, but then it is the sisters and their Gen Z daughters who discover the unacknowledged mutual attraction between Michael Urie and Mr Taskrabbit (seriously, what were the terms of that product placement agreement? That the cast had to say “taskrabbit” at least 15 times? It was like a 30 Rock joke) and proceed to facilitate a love connection. The ostensible main characters, the three gay men, are completely passive and oblivious. The ultimate message is Los Angeles/big cities= bad, quaint small town America = good. Never mind that not one character looked or sounded like they’d ever spent more than a weekend in New England. It was as if a production assistant found a dumpster full of those idiotic inspirational signs (the ones Najimy’s character made and put all over the house) and then constructed a movie around them.

r140, I don't disagree at all, except that I meant gay-affirming in that the family was both comfortable with gayness and wanted their son/brother/uncle to be happy. But yes, it had a very "my gays" vibe that really annoys me.

The only thing that really annoyed me about the movie was that the protagonist's life revolved around shirtless Instahos. I'm glad, though, that the story has him caring more about his (modelesque) boyfriend-to-be and moving back to be close to his family. Call me heteronormative, but that's where I am in life. I have zero-zero-zero interest in the gym bunny gay culture that is the only gay culture where I live. I feel like I am the only gay man on Instagram who doesn't post photos of myself showing off my body. No, I don't have the body for it, but I also don't care to have the body for it. With every passing year, I find that kind of self-objectification sadder and sadder no matter how much casual sex those guys have.

I couldn't get past the lead guy's snarky friend.

Gay minstrel show. As offensive as black face.

Lighten up, you silly old queens.

Urie had a lot more sexual chemistry with the straight women, including Coolidge, than with any of his male co-stars. I guess art reflects life in this case as he’s in the process of coming out a second time.

There's a Christmas movie on in the UK right now called Christmas Wishes and Mistletoe Kisses with Matthew Davis who was briefly a star, most notably as Warner in Legally Blonde.

He's aged very nicely.

Single All The Way was the most patronizing movie I've ever seen.

To me, it's a wonderful movie. But then I am a sucker for campy gay romcoms which usually look like they were done with no budget at all.

I think it's great that in recent years, us Gays get our own cheesy Hallmark-esque Christmas movies.

Love the cast of Single All The Way. Especially Jennifer Robertson as the kooky sister.

At first, I thought it was weird that the audience can't see any of the kisses of Urie with the other guys, but at the end it made sense that the kissing at the end made a much bigger impact that way.

Honey, they always kiss at the end of Hallmark movies. Then the credits. And that's a wrap.

[quote]Also……..Steve Lund playing yet another bisexual, which is fine by me.

He's been the leading man in a ton of Hallmark Christmas movies.

[quote] At first, I thought it was weird that the audience can't see any of the kisses of Urie with the other guys

It’s because the other guys did not want to kiss guys on camera. They can play gay but no kissing. Will Smith rule.

You twats all know this isn't a Hallmark movie. Right?

The what is it?

R152=Netflix worker getting upset people keep name dropping a rival company.

Then what is it??

A friend told me that the Netflix Christmas movies allow more lip-lock than Hallmark does.

One the one hand, god bless them for producing a gay romcom.

On the other hand, it's weapon's-grade cheese.

Next Sunday on ION a whole day of KISSMAS!

Needed more fisting.

This is only Urie’s 3rd onscreen gay kiss. He was positively chaste during UB and since has largely been straight—on-and off-screen.

This was dire. As theGuardian review says, Urie seems to be in a different movie from everyone else. It also makes zero sense everyone loves him (family and bfriends) while we are given zero evidence of any kind of charm. The luke character seems idiotic, keeps being turned down and showing up again and again. Coolidge is funny but not in here, where she had nothing to do. Couldn’t they got a better script at least?

Steve Lund . . . yum!

This movie's ultimate effect was to reinforce why I moved 3 thousand miles away from my family. Off the charts gay stereotyping. Unrealistic. Sexually frustrated and apparently celibate Urie turns down Luke after the third date. He needed some dick, bad! An awful mess of a movie.

I found the story completely unbelievable and woke. Biracial had to win again.

[quote]I'm not into scat.

That's what they all say.

I couldn’t get beyond the first five to ten minutes. Too much campery. God, I sound like a homophobe, but I can’t take too much camp. The strokes are far too broad for me, but I’m nevertheless happy to see gay films in the mainstream now—and it’s been in the UK Netflix top ten since it was released, which is something.

I kept waiting for dad to get caught boning Mr. Taskrabbit.

That would have been infinitely more interesting than anything on screen.

Those of you who gave up after only 10 minutes.....you didn't even get to New Hampshire and the family and Luke McF???

Well, that was just dumb. Your loss.

Unless it has a transperson of color, 15 non-binaries and a eunuch I'm not interested.

What was woke about this movie, [164]? If one black person is in a movie (where everyone else is white), does that automatically make it woke?

Be nice to R164. He has to use "woke", "SJW" or "CRT" in 148 posts by 8pm to get his daily vodka rations.

Yeah I don't think there was a single mention of race in the movie and like one damn black character. It's almost impressive how broken r164's brain is that this was still his obsession.

This movie reinforces the stereotype that families don't count their gay children and siblings as "complete people" unless they're partnered up. I mean, God forbid a gay person be happy and able to thrive on their own!

That's not a gay specific thing r173, it's how all these holiday rom com works.

Usually it is some woman who has been "too busy for love" who visits back home and finds the dick she needs to make her life complete.

No one is allowed to be content being single in the world of romcoms, the genre is built around relationships being the end all be all.

R174 But in this movie, this dude's family was actually sociopathic and crazed about getting him hooked up. It was almost as if they were gonna kick him out of the house if he didn't get a boyfriend.

My biggest problem was that you could tell 10 minutes in that they were setting up the two best friends to be together in the end, but first, they had no sexual chemistry, and second, if they were friends all this time and were interested in each other, wouldn't they have slept together by now. I could see one of them pining for the other, but there was nothing.

[quote] if they were friends all this time and were interested in each other, wouldn't they have slept together by now. I could see one of them pining for the other, but there was nothing.

Exactly. Fraus might behave like this but it doesn’t work on gays. We know if we want to sleep with you or not the second we meet you. We don’t change our minds 10 years into the friendship. It’s very set in stone.

R106 Thats how romantic comedies usually are. The formula is to usually have a plain Jane / basic looking white woman who’s bitchy or has no personality but all the guys want her like she’s the last piece of meat on Earth.

[quote] Single All The Way was the most patronizing movie I've ever seen.

So silly. It's a Hallmark holiday movie about gay people, that's all. Same formula, just applied to a gay couple.

If I had a complaint about the theme, it would be that a lot of straight people do assume two gay friends must be romantically involved and the basis of this story is that the gay guys were blind to their love while all the straight people saw it.

But I don't do thematic analyses of Hallmark or Lifetime movies, so why do one of this movie just because it involves gay men? That would be like a food critic writing a takedown of Hershey kisses. What's the point?

Next step, all gay cast. The object workaholic couple each has a best friend (possibly another married gay couple) who maneuver and negotiate them from afar. A Gay version of Christmas Matchmakers.

They should make a gay version of All I Want For Christmas.

[quote] if they were friends all this time and were interested in each other, wouldn't they have slept together by now.

Whenever that is the premise, there's always the "I don't want to lose this great friendship, we currently have, if it doesn't work out!" hurdle to overcome. And in this case, it was Urie's character who had that concern.

It all comes down to a leap of faith. Trust in the happy ending fantasy. That's what these romcoms are all about.

People say it doesn't happen, but isn't this the story of Ryan Murphy and his husband? They had been friends for years and decided to give dating each other a shot. Remember reading about this in some profile of Murphy.

Is Ryan Murphy evil incarnate, or am I just a jealous nelly?

r183, neither is exclusive.

The kiss at the end was really dry and flat. The white actor looked repelled by having to kiss a big bristly beard.

Can I ask Santa to bring me a Philemon Chambers?

I was super offended that they made the black man do everything for these white people. So typical. Hang the christmas lights, black man! Babysit the kids, black man! Go get us more wine, black man! Build all the sets for the play, black man!

Ho ho slavery!

Does anyone know why there's this one poster who keeps saying that Michael Urie will soon have to come as straight due to all the chicks he's been banging in real life? Urie is dating a guy...

Yep, and the black guy spent all his savings renting out a property where the white guy could set up shop selling plants, while the black guy put up shelves and tried to write another book. The white guy got to move back to his home town while the black guy just tagged along like a spaz.

Shingle All the Way? Ish it about roofing?

I never like when they "mainstream" gay people, because my favorite thing about being gay is giving the finger to all the mainstream crap I'm not obligated to be involved in! Who says I want to fit into all this heteronormative bullshit? Gen Z gays on Grindr and Prep planning their gay weddings before ever dating a guy. Typical!

That said, it does sound pretty dopey and I've seen my share of fun and silly Hallmark Christmas movies. I especially enjoyed "A Timeless Christmas" from last year's haul. The leads had real chemistry.

This movie was homophobic. Not a single scene of Luke nude was shown, plus the criminally low screen time of Steve Lund?? Unforgivable!!

Congrats on baby #2, Michael Urie and Linda in Collingswood!

R179 Yeah I think the two friends getting together undermines the whole "two gay guys can just be friends" buttttttttttt if we're being honest I think a lot of gay BFFs are actually in love with each other but hold off in hopes someone better looking will come along....and I am joking ... mostly.

Am I the only one who thought MIchael Urie was not remotely good looking enough for his two love interests?

Of course you aren't the only one r195. I'm sure Michael Urie himself thought that.

This movie was more painful than a urinary tract infection.

The sister called out the looks discordance. “BFF is a ten. And Peter is a ten ….. in New Hampshire.”

I would have paid double my cable bill to have seen Urie get plowed into oblivion on "Looking".

R188-I just spit out my morning man cum.

Decaf?

OMG there's a Christmas movie on Channel 5 in the UK with Jack McFarland call The Christmas Sisters. Don't think he's playing gay in this one.

Jack McFarland is playing "a not so jolly CEO for a toy company, who is also a nationally ranked pingpong player!

Apparently it was called, Sense, Sensibility & Snowmen in the US.

I’m so confused, I’m 2/3 of the way into the movie and the hot bisexual doctor has not arrived in New Hampshire to win back the lead’s love and sweep him off his feet. They are really pushing it to the eleventh hour.

Does he bang the Black one?

I think I’m missing something, why is this taking place In New Hampshire, none of these people look like they are from New Hampshire, and it can’t possible be so backward as to not have a Starbucks and only one bar. There is very much about this production that is coming off as very contrived.

NH is the new rom-com Vermont.

I fell asleep watching it and haven't felt the need to go back and re-watch. Was there a scene on a bandstand covered in fairy lights?

I am fighting with all my might to go back and finish the end.

I watched this last night and it was okay. I just took it for what it is, which is Netflix's version of a Hallmark Christmas movie (except with gay characters, of course).

I agree that the age difference was a bit of an issue -- not that a younger guy wouldn't ever go for an older man, just that when Michael and Philemon finally have their big kiss at the end and camera is in close, you can more easily detect the near 15-year difference in their ages. I think Philemon is adorable and did fine in the role; however, I do wonder if an older, Shemar Moore type would've been a better choice for the roommate role.

I don’t understand this movie at all! There’s the hot sexy doctor and a hot sexy ski instructor and he ends up with the bland no personality failed writer? Why even introduce the doctor and his smarmy condescending to the help wife if he wasn’t going to come back into the story?

And what was up with The Best/Worst Christmas Pageant Ever rip off, it seemed to be included just to give Jennifer Coolidge something to do.

Why did the snowplow driver get two songs to sing?

Some of this would have made better sense if it was Connecticut, I can see someone from LA moving to Connecticut, but never New Hampshire.

What was the shaving cream campaign all about, especially with the Black guy who had a beard and didn’t shave it?

Does the Luke McFarland guy move to LA and try to get into social media, but because he was way to old to try to do that.

Just ridiculous shit this was, why did I spend all that time watching it. That lesbian one last year was ten times better.

It was cute if you accept it for what it is: a low brown, mindless, feel-good Christmas movie that was clearly written for the frau market that enjoys these types of films. I say representation at all costs, so I'm cool with this film though I don't expect I'll watch it again.

R210 It's interesting because Michael is an older looking 44 while Philemon is a young looking 27 so in the scenes when these two are close together (particularly in the end) the age difference is noticeable though personally I didn't find it uncomfortable (a younger and older man together is not that uncommon in the gay community). The problem is though, I think Philemon's and Michael's characters are meant to be in their 30s and neither one looks it. Also they were, supposedly living together for about 9 years before this movie which doesn't seem plausible given how young that would've made Philemon's character (though Michael's character says something about Philemon's character having been on his own since he was 17 which could imply he actually was that young when they met which is creepy lol).

[quote]a low brown

Pics please.

R212 Low brown...oh dear....I meant low brow ;)

[quote] It's interesting because Michael is an older looking 44 while Philemon is a young looking 27

Michael Urie is 41 years old.

Let’s hope there’s a Christmas Gay romcom starring Richard and Froy for next year, hell, it can even be a documentary and I won’t complain.

My Policeman is a cool gay movie coming out next year, based on EM Forster's affair with a policeman.

R217 It was not just an affair, it was a throuple with a very understanding wife.

Dingle All The Gay

Dingleberries All The Way

The movie's ok for what it is but I wonder why the Gay Mafia keeps pushing obligatory and irrelevant cameo appearances by influencers Max Emerson and Kyle Kreiger on us in every gay movie. Are these really our best and brightest?

R221, it’s an embarrassment. Can you imagine if straight movies kept putting Khloe Kardashian and James Charles in them? It would immediately mark the movie as trash. Why doesn’t that work the same way for gay movies?

I don't know, I thought it was cute. No chemistry between the leads, but I wasn't watching this and expecting art. My fiance and a straight friend and I watched it together after dinner last week. I am gonna be 50 next year, so maybe I have a different take on things. In a lot of ways, pop culture has accelerated so rapidly in my lifetime, it surprises me. This sort of sappy rom-com would never have been dared to have been made when I first came out in the early 90s. Because my family STILL isn't supportive and won't meet my partner even though they know we are getting married next year, well----seeing an affirming family was great to see on tv. I am excited for today's youth to be more accepted by their families and stupid rom-coms like this do help normalize gay people in general. A straight person watching this not friends with gay people might understand a little better that gays are not scary or different.

I agree r223. My partner and I got together in 1980. My mother refused to meet him. By the time she came around he no longer had any desire to meet her. Now he is dead and she is lost in the fog of dementia.

R223 Yeah this was movies was never going to be an artful, critically acclaimed movie. If you go into this with the knowledge that this a mindless "Hallmark like" Christmas rom-com, actually enjoyable but I agree the two lead actors had zero chemistry, though I think that might be down to the fact they don't actually have that much alone time in the movie to actually make their romantic tension seem real. This movie is targeted towards fraus and I think that's a good thing. The more positive representation the better. And lets be real, in our more "woke" culture, gay men are actually appearing less prominently than we were even five years ago.

Revoltingly stereotyped "men", Urie is way too old, the sisters are awful, and Jennifer is wasted. Got through an hour before retching.

They lost me at the SLEIGH QUEEN sign.

Netflix is supposed to have money but it still looked like a shitty TV movie.

Most movies made by Netflix look decidely non-cinematic.

Netflix has a two-tier approach to movies. They have a limited number of bigger budget films they release each year, and then a larger number of "second rate" films (usually based on scripts that were passed over by the studios) that they can fill in the rest of their release schedule with. This cheaper films are often filmed with TV production crews on more of TV schedule. Urie said in an interview they film Single All the Way in 4 weeks in Montreal.

Michael doesn't have chemistry with his own boyfriend. They're like dickless Ken dolls.

[quote]Urie said in an interview they film Single All the Way in 4 weeks in Montreal.

That long?

R232 The average for a lower budget movie is 8 to 12 weeks. 4 weeks is the equivalent of about two episodes of a one hour tv show.

It's like those two teenage girls actually wanted to see Urie and Chambers fuck and suck right by the Christmas tree. That's how "into" being Cupid they were.

Those 2 meddling scheming bitches clearly watched too many boylove anime.

Why was the handsome married cardiologist boyfriend agreed to follow him home when he clearly cant?

And nobody want to talk about the handsome bear hunk brother-in-law? With a neurotic and mentally ill wife he likely a regular on the town gloryholes. .

R235 Jennifer Robertson played the neurotic sister. She was great on Schitt's creek but her acting was terrible in this movie.

She played pretty much the same character in both, r236. But she was good at it.

R236 Agreed. I loved her in Schitt's Creek, but she really screwed this one up.

The more I think of this days later it was dreck, pure dreck, and I’m very angry the mom didn’t get her white tree with gold ornaments. That was rude and unkind of him to come in and take over, and as a so-called plant person, a ridiculous conceit if there ever was one, you’d think he be pro artificial tree and not cutting a real one down.

WHO IS THIS JENNIFER ROBERTSON OF WHOM YOU SPEAK?

SORRY, I GOT CONFUSED.

Lol Urie doesn’t have chemistry with his boyfriend because they’re not fucking. Funny, that.

The only guy (or character for that matter) that I liked was the personal trainer.

Next year, make a sequel starring him. And pair him up with an equally hot guy.

I'd watch that.

(And no dizzy broads. Talk about some holiday cock blocking.)

[quote][R232] The average for a lower budget movie is 8 to 12 weeks. 4 weeks is the equivalent of about two episodes of a one hour tv show.

HUH? That's not true at all! Eight to twelve weeks? No way, that would require a much larger budget.

Having been in a number of horror, low-budget and Hallmark films I can tell you that three weeks to eighteen shooting days is a reasonably accurate average for a lower budget film. A Hallmark, Lifetime, or Passionflix film is shot in three weeks, period. On tv an hour-long episode of a network show is shot in eight days, so basically the same schedule or number of pages filmed each day, about 7 and a half.

HBO typically made its movies in about 5-6 weeks 15 years ago. And it felt rushed.

[quote]Having been in a number of horror, low-budget and Hallmark films I can tell you

Valerie, is that you? It's me, Mickey, your favourite gay!

I thought it was cute for what it was. It's totally marketed toward the "Hallmark" audience though, and I agree the two leads had zero chemistry.

So corny

But the Christmas movie that was an, All Rise and CSI:Miami mash-up was kinda nice.

It was nice because it was not acted like a Hallmark Card reading.

They did a live interview with Philemon on the local news this morning here in NYC. He really seems like a total sweetheart and down-to-earth guy. If nothing else, I hope this movie leads to better things for him.

[quote]the Christmas movie that was an All Rise and CSI:Miami mash-up

What was it called?

A Christmas Proposal (TV Movie 2021),

starring Jessica Camacho (All Rise) and Adam Rodriguez (CSI:Miami).

I was hoping it would end with a very hard Luke blowing a load through a wreath. The script was predictable, but I didn’t hate it. God knows I’ve seen enough of that lesbian Peppermint Patti over the holiday seasons.

This what happen to tv gay characters reduced into caricatures for mug-cradling frau consumption. The gays will retain their dated stereotypes ( not too much to be offensive ) but with a sexuality of a Ken doll. And don't forget the supportive yet clueless PFLAG-type mom.

[quote]a sexuality of a Ken doll

I have no personal knowledge of Ken dolls. I realize they don't have poles, but do they have holes?

Watched this last night. Surprised and delighted to find Steve Lund was in it, devastated to find he was in it for 2 minutes. The film was meh and Michael Urie is not a romantic lead. Better suited to bitter, washed up, waspish queeny uncle who spits at babies.

Did I mention Steve Lund?

Hey Gays! Hallmark's "The Christmas House 2: Deck Those Halls" premieres tonite!

Warm up your cocoa and get into your snuggles!

It was so cringe. And yet I voluntarily watched the whole thing.

r18 Ugly Betty ended in 2008 dearie it's been awhile

[quote] Why was the handsome married cardiologist boyfriend agreed to follow him home when he clearly cant?

"Hi babe, I know I said I would love to leave town and meet your folks, but I just got a call and there's a medical emergency! I can't come with you this year, sorry!"

Congratulations to Urie and his partner Marie, expecting their second child! From the statement it isn’t planned but they’re both really happy. I love this queer icon.

[quote] I swear I read this as "Shingles All The Way'"....

That I would watch. This, not so much.

Ugh I can’t wait until MU and his partner post the bump picture/sonogram. With their first kid they were kissing and he was cradling her belly. Awwwwwwwww

When did everyone start clutching their pearls over age differences in relationships? You're both of the age of consent, you get to make your own sexual choices. If you don't like it, don't do it yourself. It always comes across like a kind of fear some people have that they could be traded in for a younger model by their partner, so they try and insinuate that the idea of even being in a May-December relationship is "problematic" as a way of forestalling this.

Summer baby for Michael and Barb :)

Eh, R265?