Black Lives Matter activists threaten ‘riots’ if Mayor-elect Eric Adams reinstates controversial NYPD anti-crime units

This will be interesting to watch. Adams campaigned on restoring law & order in a city that is alarmed by rising crime rates.

OP didn't care when Marjorie Taylor Greene, Madison Cawthorn, Paul Gosar and co threatened violence. He just hates black people

any organization that wants to protest restoring law and order is corrupt. this isn't about black lives mattering. And no matter what systemic shit you've come up against, it does not trump your God-given free will. The discussion last summer was so stupid and one-sided around all these issues. it was embarrassing to white people and black people. we need to do better. we are one fucking race with different pigmentations. not different races of people. black is not a different type of human being. enough already.

I’m on the side of BLM with this. I understand there is a lot of crime but I also understand that cops are prejudiced and racist as hell and will target black folks unfairly.

[quote] “We will shut the city down. We will shut down City Hall, and we will give him hell and make it a nightmare,” said Chivona Newsome, a BLM co-founder and sister of Hawk Newsome. During the sitdown — which took place behind closed doors, but was livestreamed on Instagram by an attendee — Adams and the BLM activists got into a shouting match as they argued over police policies.

After the report about the head of BLM was found to be corrupt and bought plenty of real estate with the past year, I say fuck them. There is not much written about the head of BLM or its organization.

Where is the transparency with this group? They were given millions of dollars as donation. What have they done with it besides buy real estate?

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time...

Eric Adams and his supporters have been very busy studying David Dinkins mayoralty and fate. If Adams doesn't want to be another one term African American mayor of NYC he will have to deal with certain issues. Crime is top among them as things are just getting out of control.

Every day it is the same thing, reports of major property and other crimes.

Adams will do nothing about this. Should have elected Sliwa. He was the first Republican I ever donated to. He was the correct choice. Elections have consequences. Good luck!

Those are only the crimes you hear about in media. On a daily basis tons of stores are jacked (shoplifting, robbery, etc...) often on what seems an hourly basis.

Went to get milk early AM at local Rite Aid. Store opened at 6AM, no sooner than doors were opened one, two, three, four, *five* people marched into store, filled their bags and arms, then left.

Stood there in amazement while employees just laughed and said it is the new normal/happens every day. There isn't anything they can do but watch, so that's what they do.

It really isn't Adams call to make. Only one local district attorney (Staten Island, no surprise there), actually prosecutes cases where they fall, shoplifting on up.. Brooklyn, Queens, certainly the Bronx, and soon incoming Manhattan DA won't prosecute shit that isn't a major felony.

Prostitution, larceny (petit or grand), and many other things are simply not prosecuted, or disposed of with desk appearance tickets, which suspects simply laugh off.

American black people are exhausting.

Eric Adams could become the Democrat that not only survives the current political climate but thrives. He isn't going to respond to riots like the current mayor did. He might be the law and order Democrat that can win, in these times.

Absolute BS^. Just watch, white gay woke. Just watch.

So we're still believing anything that comes out of the NY Post?

What OP didn't mention was that the NYPD Stop and Frisk program found a gun during 1% of the stops. That means it's an extremely ineffective way of getting guns off the street, even if you hate black/brown people and think they should live without dignity. Adams would be a complete and utter fool if he restarted such an ineffective program. Bloomberg only supported it because he suffered from that infallibility delusion so many rich people have (in his mind it was impossible to make a bad decision).

BLM wants more violen e and rooting so that they can rake in the money.

R15

The point of stop and frisk was to force black criminals to leave their illegal handguns at home most of the time, not to take all the illegal gun owners into police custody. In any event, that's not the policy that BLM and Adams are arguing over. Stop and frisk was done away with by Di Blasio well before June 2020.

I like how Adams told BLM to actually do something for the black community by trying to reduce violence in the community themselves. Adams looks like the old-school kind of black leader who wants to help the community to do better while BLM is only interested in the whitey blame game. As if we're responsible for 56 percent of murders in this country being attributable to black perps.

He isn't very bright tough. He will soon lose the white liberal support if he wants to play terrorist.

She's big thru the hips, roomy.

Crime hurts black people most: not only because they're the main perpetrators, but also because they're the principal victims.

These ridiculous grandstanding BLM demagogues need to be pulled by their own before they cause more hurt to their communities.

New Yorkers are such dummies electing the fox to run the hen house. You're BEGGING a return to black citizens being massacred in their foyer by dozens of peace officer bullets for the crime of pulling their keys out to unlock the door to their own residence. Or blasting the life out of a fiance and a best man leaving a bachelor party because the car they were approaching to drive home looked too luxurious to belong to a couple of black men.

R11 Someone is ignorant on US history.

I wish white people were as outraged to racism than outraged over black people fighting anti-racism.

R23 He told how people feel, not lies. Doesn't mean that these people are racist, but there is a thing that is called compassion or empathy exhaust, not sure which is English term. I noticed that there was a big support to BLM and black people by large number of white Americans after George Floyd killing. But people soon lose interest and go back to their own problems. Of course there is hypocrisy as well. Some people joined the movement while it was fashionable.

It is typical for any community, not only in your black-white relations in US. I think that liberal media made a great deal of damage to Black people by giving space to poor little rich actors, rappers, academics, even a royal couple with biracial wife who are wining about not racism. People, mostly struggling to survive, see rich privileged people pretending to be victims and here is the first exhaust. They forget that the majority of Black people really is victim of racism when they see some mediocre actor complaining over not getting his Oscar because of racism. Then they give space to some crazy anti white racist female academics who talk about killing whites in the streets or measures to decrease the white population. Free and frequent expression of anti white racism is the biggest enemy of BLM cause.

And this guys threatens with terrorism. I think it is stupid tactics on testosterone, because BLM has still a great support in white liberals. But the moment that sympathetic masses feel threatened they would become enemies. It is just the human nature.

We'll soon find out who's in charge in this city.

We'll just stay away.

[quote]I wish white people were as outraged to racism than outraged over black people fighting anti-racism.

Black people are not fighting racism. They're simply contributing their own racism and bigotry.

R23 must add that slavery was ended thanks to white abolitionists. Obama was elected thanks to white votes. Last riots were so successful thanks to massive white joining. White people supporting the Blacks are not the same as anti black white racists. White liberals and anti racists are your biggest and most important allies and honestly without them, your struggle will not succeed.

Anti white racism and demonization of whites will lead you nowhere.

We'll put more blacks on tv and in print advertising. That should solve the problems = Madison Ave.

If the Ten Commandments were posted all over the high crime areas, there would be no need for police - Evangelicals

Give them all reparations and there wouldn't be and crime - SJWs

Oh God, we need to get back in the news. People are forgetting about us and not sending us money - BLM

They'd better get their gains now, because next year, when we take over, they'll all be put in their places - Trumpsters

American PoC must be the most over indulged, ignorant, entitled people on earth.

“Black Lives Matter activists threaten riots…..”

This is why we hate you BLM! We are a modern society; we are not rioters, we are peaceful protesters.

Here goes BLM being so extreme that they’re losing any white supporters they may have had.

With the threat of these riots and the Rittenhouse riots, looks like BLM knows the big box stores are getting their inventory for Black Friday already. It’s so chilly though!

I suspect all protestations of racial injustice will be centralized to Best Buy, Target, Nike, and the liquor store.

After all, the best way to eliminate negative stereotyping is by enforcing the worst of it at the drop of a hat.

This is one of the main reasons the Republicans will take over next year. Then, you can riot all you want; the police and military will have open season on you. The far left is only out for themselves and fuck any other subunit.

[quote] So we're still believing anything that comes out of the NY Post?

OP's link is The Daily News, you idiot.

Adams vs Kamala in 2024.

No to both^. End the presidency immediately if it came to that.

[QUOTE] This is one of the main reasons the Republicans will take over next year. Then, you can riot all you want; the police and military will have open season on you.

They didn’t have “open season on us” last year when Trump was president and Mitch McConnell ran the senate.

R30, given how they’re currently trying to destroy democracy just to hold on to power, I’d say American whites still hold that title but thanks for playing.

BLM: God’s Gift to the Republicans

R39 Some small percentage of whites rules US and world, but the majority is underprivileged just like other races.

But the point is that POC are minority fighting for equality in society. When you are doing this you have to be wise. A lot of black people that get access to media are acting childish, playing toxic victim game and show they are equally racist (anti white) as some white racist hillbilly is anti black. This BLM leader is not competent, he thinks with his dick wanting to play some macho terrorist and he can only help bringing Trump back.

A competent leader knows there must be some compromise. And as someone mentioned, black people, particularly women and children are the major part of victims of black criminals and we don’t see any efforts in facing this problem.

So, there must be other ways of combating racist police brutality. One Martin Luther King was worth thousand of this testosterone twats.

This is... a pretty racist thread. I'm annoyed that you're proving the annoying trolls correct.

Poverty causes crime. Poverty is historically endemic in black communities in cities in the US for very obvious and current policy reasons. It was so with Italians and the Irish in NYC. We need to address systemic poverty in the black community.

I think education and nutrition are the best solutions. I wish we could focus our energy and policy on those problems.

Addendum, the NYC Irish used the police force to pull themselves out of poverty, ironically. So there's that...

The Italians created their own police force and political networks.

[quote]Poverty causes crime.

No, it does not.

It is a cultural choice.

Are poor Asians out rioting, looting, shooting, causing mayhem?

Adam’s ran on bringing back undercover cops. He won’t back down on this issue.

[quote]We need to address systemic poverty in the black community.

Perhaps the black community should stop blaming poverty, slavery, "racism", White folk, Jews, Asians and everyone/thing else for their misfortune, begin to look inward at its behavior and actions and start to take responsibility for both.

I imagine that R42 is very old, in that he is still clinging to that old "poverty causes crime" canard. Its been years since I've heard anybody try to push that line.

What's in the Daily News? I'll tell ya what's in the Daily News! Story about the same old white paranoia driving them all to booze!

[quote] He isn't very bright tough.

lol.

[quote]Poverty causes crime.

The existence of the term "white-collar crime" would suggest it's a bit more complicated than that.

Meanwhile, on the other coast:

These two really are the epitome of “dumb N-words” in e wry sense of what portrays.

F the LYING BLM

Sorry, but claiming that efforts to reduce crime are “anti-black”…is a tacit admission that criminality is part of the black DNA. Blacks could always try committing less violent crime if they don’t want to be the targets of anti-crime efforts. But apparently they’re not able to, so the only explanation is that it’s genetic.

[quote] is a tacit admission that criminality is part of the black DNA

Well....

[quote]It is a cultural choice.

I keep thinking about the reparations. You the crime amongst blacks is bad now? Once they get reparations, you will see disaster, and that disaster will slither into wealthy suburbs.

Law enforcement needs to bring the hammer down, hard. That’s the way to reduce crime.

You clowns constantly complain about whites and "whiteness," but you sure do love all the things whiteness brought to the world like your electricity, computers and internet, etc., R39.

If you keep biting the hand that feeds..

[quote]but you sure do love all the things whiteness brought to the world like your electricity, computers and internet, etc.,

Datalounge.

[quote]Law enforcement needs to bring the hammer down, hard. That’s the way to reduce crime.

It will never happen in the ultra-woke cities like NYC, SF… because blacks.

[quote] There will be riots, there will be fire and there will be bloodshed

So he believes in killing people for his cause? Murder is never the answer.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

What is BLM doing about stopping black people from committing crimes ?

Yet, you hypocritical clowns who love generalising whites and complain about "whiteness" sure do love all of the things that whiteness bought you like your electricity, computers and internet, etc., R39.

Open a history book some time. Look up empires and dynasties throughout history, all of which engaged in warfare, colonised, indulged in slavery, and committed attrocities and genocides, and count them.

I should warn you. It is a *very* long list, stretching across thousands of years, and *very* little of it is white..

[quote}Stop and frisk was done away with by Di Blasio well before June 2020.

Stop and Frisk was ruled unconstitutional toward the end of Bloomberg's term. De Blasio had no choice but to end it...he probably would have anyway. Because of the ruling, it's not something that Adams can just bring back without major modifications.

R44, yes. Asians have insane gang issues in the Bay Area and crime as high if not higher than any poor black area. Same as white trash and Latinos. Jesus fucking Christ, you're obtuse.

Poor people steal. They steal out of desperation. I know you can't believe this. But you're a bad person, so fuck you.

And yes, some rich people swindle. Usually when they're on their last legs.

Almost every black person in the US is damn near half white, so get off it, racists.

[quote]Poor people steal.

I never did.

R66 No, Asians and Latinos commit far less violent crimes than Black men. Search for statistics.

Different situations. Blacks descended from slaves are the underclass of US society. Our version of Roma (gypsies) or Dalits (untouchables). Other groups come here and integrate generally. This is basic in group/out group dynamics. Fundamentally, most BLM leaders don’t want to change the paradigm, they just want to be the in group (and have others be the out group).

I’m not sure what is going to work, but at least we are making some progress. Don’t hold your breath for a Dalit president of India or Gypsy Prime Minister of France.

[quote]Our version of Roma (gypsies) or Dalits (untouchables).

No they are not. You are outrageously stupid.

R68, reported and tried crimes. The original contention was that "you don't see Asians committing crimes", rioting shooting looting. I argued that Asians in fact do have gang issues - with drive by shootings - the same as the black community. While it's true they don't have as many reported violent crimes, you in fact do see the same behavior.

Give it up, R71. You’re pathetic.

Laotians and Cambodians are the stereotypical gangs in the west coast and they are poor asians, cant compete with other asians because they are poor, yet cant avail of affirmative action, coz they are not the right ethnicity. Poverty alleviation and education is the answer, nobody is denying that. I still want to live and walk around safely and in peace. Just like criminals, I have rights too even if I can afford an iphone. We cant keep on excusing bad behavior by saying criminals are poor and they have no control over them being a dumbass.

You can hate the crime, but if you want to stop the criminal - who is in fact a human being- one has to change his motivation for committing the crime. We have disproven that it is some innate, racial mentality. You're wasting time with that nonsense. But if you demand that it be mentality- guess what? The only proven solution is the same as if it were endemic poverty and lack of resources.

Or you can be irrationally racist and move out of the city, just don't stay and bitch and waste time.

[quote]You the crime amongst blacks is bad now? Once they get reparations, you will see disaster, and that disaster will slither into wealthy suburbs.

And then whites will move out of those wealthy suburbs, and those suburbs will become ghetto war zones within one generation, just like every black neighborhood becomes.

Agreed^. It’s a vicious, never-ending circle.

Gypsies are terribly dicscriminated against in Europe, believe me, they don't have rights and support that Blacks get in US.

But you can't compare it because Gypsies generally commit pety crimes, not so many violent crimes. But they do terribly mistreat women and children.

I suspect Adams can get it done. BLM can go ahead and protest, but the public won’t be on their side. They would against an unpopular president like Trump, but most NYC residents including minorities approve of what Adams is doing.

Trump was right after all. BLM should be declared a domestic terrorist group.

Dems made a big mistake being linked with BLM and supporting it.

Democrats will need to separate themselves from BLM if they ever expect to win suburban voters again.

Knowing people who are in the NYC activist scene, I'm telling you he's totally full of shit. He's not going to instigate any riot and, in fact, was on the ground last summer crushing the riots that took place in Brooklyn and Manhattan. He is what as known as the "peace police," so any threat to riot should be disregarded as bluff. Not to mention that Hawk is not affiliated with the larger Black Lives Matter movement and is an anti-vaxxer who has done solidarity protests with reich wing fascists.

Oh, so now the vaccines are racist according to BLM? These people are really too dumb to function in society.

[Quote] most NYC residents including minorities approve of what Adams is doing.

Actually no. Eric barely won the primary by less than 1% against a woman who raised almost no money and ran on a relatively bland platform. Then, Eric got less votes and less of a percentage in the final result than both of de Blasio's two mayoral runs and he's the most unpopular mayor in NYC history. Eric is already making enemies and pissing people off. If he tries to govern as if he has a mandate, he will find that he's going to face big pushback and not just from Hawk Newsome, but from the white liberals who largely powered Kathryn Garcia's campaign and have all the money in the city.

They prove a lot of their critics right when they threaten stuff like this. Putting yourself in the position of holding a city hostage with ransom demands is unproductive. I’m black and grew up in NYC -family is still there- and I get angry reading this, thinking of my family having to deal with the resulting crime.

[quote]Trump was right after all. BLM should be declared a domestic terrorist group.

Don't be an idiot. Trump feels the same way about someone who silently takes a knee.

But Trump was actually right about BLM.

Are Black Americans usually angry as the ones who get to media?

[quote]yet cant avail of affirmative action,

And yet you no doubt take issue when highly-intelligent Asians make up much of a university's campus and are far smarter than the white applicants.

[quote]against a woman who raised almost no money and ran on a relatively bland platform

[quote]but from the white liberals who largely powered Kathryn Garcia's campaign and have all the money in the city

So, R83, he should be scared of a group of people so powerful that they raised almost no money for their candidate?

In 2020, BLM protestors were adamant that BLM had nothing to do with the rioting, burning, and looting that took place. They blamed it on opportunists who were hiding within the peaceful BLM protestors.

In 2021:

[qoute]we are going to take to the streets again. There will be riots, there will be fire and there will be bloodshed because we believe in defending our people,” said Hawk Newsome, co-founder of Black Lives Matter of Greater New York, after a heated meeting with Adams in Brooklyn Borough Hall.

The truth tends to reveal itself eventually.

Meh, no one to root for. These people suck with their threats as does the NYPD. They both make the city shit.

If you're not a NYer, don't be an idiot who defends a police force you know nothing about - and I say that as someone who lives in a neighborhood full of them. NYPD suck. Lazy and useless.

I do declare, I've never seen so many racist comments since George Wallace ran for POTUS.

All I see is a whole shitload of wasted lives and wasted time and talent. There are plenty of happy, successful and wealthy people of all colors out there. Most of them don't waste their valuable time and talent on these pointless, political passions that only enrich a very select group of straphangers.

Business owners will have to hire their own security forces to keep these vile thugs from devastating their livelihoods. It will be costly. So be it. Let's give THEM reparations to pay for it.

These two Pittsburgh "protestors" are going away to federal prison for several years:

^Awesome. Finally some justice.

Blacks are the worst!

R88 Why would anyone protest? Korean and Chinese have the highest IQs in the world and best discipline and work ethics. Chinese will tske over the world soon. Right now everybody owes them money.

But, they lack the free and critical thinking that is a tradition of European renaissance and enlightement. And so far white man has proven to be the most creative beast on earth.

[quote] And so far white man has proven to be the most creative beast on earth.

LOL! God, there's no doubt your psycho ass is in the Rittenhouse threads defending that loser.

Honey, do you live in the present? Are you one of those who hops onto the accomplishments of individuals who happen to be white? You had nothing to do with what they did. The current version of the white man allowed a very stupid, incurious low-life like Donald Trump to ascend to power.

No, Asians don't commit crimes in large numbers. They are 11 percent of the population, so just a couple of percentage points below the Black population.

I do think that racism has something to do with the social dysfunction of the Black community--you have a history of Black enterprise being pretty brutally quashed, so there hasn't been a lot of incentive to buy into the system. That said, the current enshrinement of Black victimhood doesn't really help. Particularly since the high crime issue actually hurts Blacks more than anyone else.

Anyway, some actual facts in this mess of a thread.

[quote] But, they lack the free and critical thinking that is a tradition of European renaissance and enlightement. And so far white man has proven to be the most creative beast on earth.

Adapting the ideas of Marx, borne of the Enlightenment, and combining them with native Confucian ethics to build a superpower certainly shows a LACK of critical or free thinking. I know creativity and it's the province of the White Man!

Black men served this country and all you have to do is look at how the GI Bill that was supposed to benefit them, didn't. You have walls put up all around you even after you serve this country and others have the nerve to act as though the ramifications from that treatment don't go on for generations?

My God, even NOW the NFL was shown how racist it with their "race norming" where they gave less of a payout to black players with injuries.

[quote]But, they lack the free and critical thinking that is a tradition of European renaissance and enlightement. And so far white man has proven to be the most creative beast on earth.

I think the point this poster was trying to make is that Asians tend to be submissive to authority. And they do as they are told by their governments without questioning it. The Chinese, for example, still have a Communist government because they haven't tried to rise up and squash it the way Eastern Europeans did in 1989.

The average black person should be horrified that BLM claims to represent them, The minute BLM starts a riot, every cop should have pepper spray and a tazer ready.

Yes, exactly. R101 didn't read with comprehension. I acknowledged capability and high intelligence of Chinese people. Along with Koreans they are the brightest people around. They are developing so fast , are organized and diligent and are conquering the world. Wherever they immigrate, no matter the bad conditions they adapt soon and organize themselves and are the most productive and peaceful citizens.

But no, their culture and tradition doesn't encourage individuality and thinking out of the box. They excel in technology, but they don't question very much the society and tradition and established rules. And no, their economy is not based on Marxism, it is based on crude capitalist exploit, which Marx criticize.

Whereas, European and their descendants have so far been more creative and prone to exploration of new things. That is what I meant.

Ok, you can say they have also been the most destructive and exploitative, I will admit that too.

[quote] Blacks descended from slaves are the underclass of US society.

Honey, not every black American is a descendent from slaves. You’re an idiot.

No group has been more persecuted than Jews, and it’s gone on for centuries. I don’t want to hear any pity parties from lazy fucks who blame everyone but themselves.

[quote] The Chinese, for example, still have a Communist government because they haven't tried to rise up and squash it the way Eastern Europeans did in 1989.

But did they really? They want to go back to communism.

I translated his rant into "blacks will be doing their Christmas shopping the usual way...looting"

R5 Chivona and Hawk, giving the white supremacists a helping hand.

R108 This is exactly the European freedom of tradition. Exploring new things.

[quote]No group has been more persecuted than Jews, and it’s gone on for centuries.

And now they get to take out their frustrations on one half of my family. Or are you going to do that revisionist shit, because I've literally been to the acres my Palestinian family once owned which was all stolen by Jews, including possessions in our ancestral homes. They even stole my great uncle's new car.

[quote]This is exactly the European freedom of tradition. Exploring new things.

Which has zero relation to the so-called "European traditions" pushed by the complete idiots who make up the current Republican party and who claim to want an "Anglo-Saxon" party which only means white. These are the stupidest, most provincial, ignorant buffoons to ever walk the earth. They want to ban books, don't actually believe in facts, don't believe in science, don't believe in education, don't believe in free thought or human rights, so whatever the fuck nonsense you think you're saying, doesn't apply to white conservatives in the United States of America. They have zero relation to that European tradition beyond epidermis. The brain is missing.

[quote] I acknowledged capability and high intelligence of Chinese people. Along with Koreans they are the brightest people around. They are developing so fast , are organized and diligent and are conquering the world. Wherever they immigrate, no matter the bad conditions they adapt soon and organize themselves and are the most productive and peaceful citizens

Asians and most other immigrants in America don't mind struggling for a generation, so that the future generations of their families don't have to. They raise themselves up from the bottom in one generation

Uh, R113, hate to break it to you but it isn't conservatives who are banning books, tearing down statues, revising American history, enforcing the tranny agenda and canceling anyone with a dissenting opinion these days.

[quote]Asians and most other immigrants in America don't mind struggling for a generation, so that the future generations of their families don't have to. They raise themselves up from the bottom in one generation

And yet blacks have been in America for more than 400 years, and continue to rank dead last in every social, economic, educational, and health metric that can possibly be measured. At some point you have to stop blaming everyone else and start looking at your own bad life choices.

[quote]Uh, [R113], hate to break it to you but it isn't conservatives who are banning books, tearing down statues, revising American history, enforcing the tranny agenda and canceling anyone with a dissenting opinion these days.

Uh, R115, it IS conservatives who are banning and burning books...

[quote] who claim to want an "Anglo-Saxon" party

Said no one ever.

[quote] You can hate the crime, but if you want to stop the criminal - who is in fact a human being- one has to change his motivation for committing the crime. We have disproven that it is some innate, racial mentality.

Have we though?

R95 It just goes to show that property matters more to this country than human life. The fascist MAGAts attempting a coup on January 6th have gotten far lesser sentences for a far bigger crime. I think this will be clearly used against this country by the Chinese, Russians, Iranians, Cubans and all of the nations the US sees as adversarial when our country hypocritically tries to denounce their human rights abuses.

Turns out we elected a Republican mayor and nobody bothered to tell us.

^ Uh no. DL was warned.

It wasn't a hidden fact.

R122: NYC, on the other hand, who actually voted for him, was not.

So the BLM are proving their violent tendencies. They want to cause chaos not help mend fences. They’re beasts who need to be jailed for making threats. I hope the new mayor doesn’t give into these violence racists.

[quote]I’m on the side of BLM with this. I understand there is a lot of crime but I also understand that cops are prejudiced and racist as hell and will target black folks unfairly.

Then there are no words to describe your idiocy when it comes to this, and tragically, there are many others like you.

Back on topic, the Adams administration will be very interesting to watch. What a total 180 from De Blasio and his liberal white wokeness. Adams is a former cop who will tolerate NO nonsense (or threats.)

[quote]Then there are no words to describe your idiocy when it comes to this, and tragically, there are many others like you.

So many gay men. A larger number than you can even imagine.

Fine with me R121. I’m sick of the rampant criminality in this city.

The media and activists are responsible for perpetuating the lie that police “unfairly” target young black men. Young black men actually commit 50% of all violent crime in this country, but make up — what, 7% of the total population?

Unarmed black people are also not killed in disproportionate numbers by cops. That’s the biggest lie that’s been perpetuated. Something like 50% of self identified liberals (including the gay men r128 mentions) think thousands upon thousands of unarmed black people are killed by police each year when the real number is like 17.

I'm black and all the black people I know, me included, want safe streets and neighborhoods, just like everyone else. In my mind (and I may be naive) there is no war between black people and the police. There is a problem between black people and racist cops and those who protect them. There are ways to reinstate the anti crime units without them becoming a racist free for all, people just need to be willing to do the work.

R131 God, someone with a brain and common sense finally on this thread!

Blacks are out of fucking control. They are feral animals ruining the quality of life all over the US. Everybody else and that includes Asians and Hispanics, not just whites, want something done. It's madness.

[Quote] In my mind (and I may be naive) there is no war between black people and the police.

You are naive, gurl.

[quote] [R44], yes. Asians have insane gang issues in the Bay Area and crime as high if not higher than any poor black area. Same as white trash and Latinos. Jesus fucking Christ, you're obtuse.

I live in the Bay Area and this is not true at all. Asians are the model minorities here. But we do have a lot of black on Asian crime in Oakland. I don’t know what your agenda is but why lie like this?

Uh, people - read the article.

THIS ISN'T BLM. THEY HAVE BEEN OFFICIALLY DISAVOWED BY BLM. They're just a fringe group that's adopted the BLM moniker.

I have issues with BLM, too - basically, any activist group can and will become bullies once they get enough power and popular support - but these guys are bad enough that even BLM doesn't want to be associated with them.

What are Asian gangs? The math club?

A common misconception from both the MAGAts here and their allied liberals is that only anarchists and BLM protestors are at war with the pigs. That isn't true.

There have been numerous examples over the last few years of confrontations between the police and the Black community in NYC that have involved no activists and no professional agitators. The tensions in the hood are a fact of life in these communities. Those expressions are shown not by who they vote for, but for their lack of participation in our election system. NYC has one of the lowest voter participation rates in the country. Slightly over a quarter of all eligible NYC voters voted in the last election. The US loves to claim that Iran's elections are illegitimate despite 51% participation rate. What does that say about the mayoral election or off year state and city elections?

By not voting, people in these communities have shown how they really feel about the system. They do not see it as legitimate or capable of addressing their needs. Eric will be coming up against this fact of life the minute he is sworn into office. It will not end well for him or the people who propelled him to Gracie Mansion from his abode in New Jersey.

Chances that it's a white supremacist group posing as BLM?

Oh please.

Black people aren’t pro-crime. They don’t want that portion of their community ruining it for the rest of them.

Today on the UES, two stores on Madison Avenue were robbed in plain daylight by groups of thugs who just came in and took armfuls of $$ merchandise. That’s not counting the smash and grab at Givenchy yesterday where they stole $80k on merchandise. It’s gotten so that many stores will stay locked and buzz people in. We can’t run a city this way.

The new DA is claiming that he won’t be prosecuting thefts like this.

Time for some FUCK AROU D AND FIND OUT.

In the Twin Cities MN there's a huge Asian gang issue. Also substantial amounts of domestic violence in their communities. Plus the trafficking of minor girls brought in from overseas to be forcibly married to older Hmong men here. Local law enforcement has been keeping a watch for several years on young Hmong girls flying into the metro - long before sex trafficking became an international crusade.

However. This shit's not specific to any ethnicity. If it's connected to anything, it's connected to immigrant/refugee communities. People are uprooted and moved to a new country and culture. Adults don't know the language and customs, but their kids catch on fast, so they end up depending on their kids to help them navigate their strange new world. That gives their kids power over their parents, which means they don't obey them. They're poor, they run on the streets, they form gangs and commit crimes to get the stuff other kids their ages have.

And the stressed and dysfunctional immigrant/refugee families experience a lot of domestic violence and child abuse as a result of the stress.

Throw in the cultural differences, such as the cases where marrying minor girls to old men, and the practice of polygamy, and you've got a recipe for trouble.

In the past, the families would mostly adjust to the new culture within a generation or two. I really do think the internet and cheap airfare is making that adjustment harder, because immigrants/refugees can keep in touch with the old country and old culture much more easily than they could in the old days.

Yes it's the Post, but this reporting is not terrible. Among the highlights:

[Quote] Newsome’s incendiary statements and criticisms of the national Black Lives Matter movement have earned him international headlines but also made him a pariah among leaders of the civil rights cause. And the IRS yanked his group’s charitable status for failing to file financial reports, The Post has learned.

[Quote] “Hawk Newsome has no relation to the Black Lives Matter Global Network … and is not ‘president’ of BLM or any of its chapters,” said Kailee Scales, a managing director of Black Lives Matter Global Network, in a statement on the group’s Web site last year.

[Quote] He calls himself a grassroots organizer, has railed against vaccine mandates (which he has labeled “racist),” and notes on his Web site that his organization “was the first group in NYC to endorse Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.”

R135, do you know anything about Shrimp Boy? The Laotians and Cambodians? How long have you actually lived in the Bay?

[quote] THIS ISN'T BLM. THEY HAVE BEEN OFFICIALLY DISAVOWED BY BLM.

Aren't we constantly being told there is no official BLM? They are all independent, therefore BLM can't disavow them. Or, is it a Southern Baptist situation where the affiliates are independent until they say something the higher ups don't like?

R140- Isn't the new DA black?

R133 That's stupid. These BLM loons have as much in common with an average black person as the average Datalounger has with a white supremacist. Regardless of what BLM and the identity politics racists perpetuate: It's not a war white against black. It's sane against the insane, who are sadly supported by large parts of the media because outrage creates clicks. BLM spokespersons always seem to me like someone who threatened to set his own ass on fire, and you are so close to saying: You do you. They would love a hard crackdown on this because then they would be given reason to complain about police brutality. There is no way out for a city government unless you decide not to care for them. They behave like trolls; you cannot appease them.

Eric Adams is a stealth Republican.

Thing to watch about all this overall is the rise of Brooklyn (with its sizable African American/POC numbers) as a political force.

Brooklyn put Adams over as mayor, and has been instrumental in past mayoral and Albany races.

Population of blacks is declining in Manhattan, but holding steady and or growing in Brooklyn. Then you also have point tons of white and other non-black "BLM supporters" make Brooklyn their home.

Brooklyn has added a fuck ton of new housing over past two decades, and more is coming. That population growth means borough cannot be ignored politically, and has other repercussions for city hall if not NYC as a whole.

[quote] Aren't we constantly being told there is no official BLM

Nope. That’s antifa. There is no official Antifa.

BLM is a terrorist organization. Start confiscating their funds.

R149 Them too, but every time a BLM "leader" goes on tv we are reminded that BLM has no leaders or official organizations.

Ungawa.

[quote] It’s gotten so that many stores will stay locked and buzz people in

Lol, that what it WAS in the 80s and 90s. You literally had to have the door opened for you by a security guard. You had to check any bags you were carrying, except a purse. If you’d bought some socks at another shop you had to hand the bag to the security guard and he’d give you a number. When you finished shopping, he’d give yiu your bag and let you out. Stores replaced their doors with very heavy doors that were difficult to push in or out. This was in all kinds of shops, not just ritzy ones on Madison Ave. Orva, Strawberry’s, Daffys, Footlocker. It was called “wilding” back then. Shops near subway stations were especially susceptible because young men would run in, grab stuff, run out & run right into the subway station, hop on a train and be gone. The Manhattan mall in midtown (was the A&S mall back then) was hit so many times they had security guards inside stores and lots patrolling the mall itself on every level, looking like they were in Nam keeping an eye out for Charlie. I saw a gang that had successfully hit a store - don’t know which store, but they had a bunch of clothes — run down the steps to the subway and jump right on a train. All within seconds while I sat there eating my McLean burger. There was no way guards could’ve caught them, it happened so fast.

So you’re not predicting anything new for NY. Been there, done that. Literally. And NY was just as pricey to live in back then as it is now, factoring inflation. So it wasn’t like we were paying $500 a month for an apartment while all this crime was going on around us. We were paying $1600 -1800. I watched people casually steal cars from my apartment window. We’d wake up in the morning to a streetful of cars with their windows broken and their radios missing. Seriously, people used to steal car radios, of all things. Funny to think of, but serious back then. My building was broken into so many times I kept a $20 bill out in plain sight so when I came home I’d open my door just a crack and when I saw the $20, I’d open the door all the way and go in. If I didn’t see the money, my plan was to call 911 from a pay phone. One day we all had to literally hop over a homeless guy who’d broken into the locked lobby door and was sleeping on the lobby floor. And it was like…… totally normal.

If the city becomes unsafe, all the fraus will move out with their kids to Westchester. What a shame.

Is the official BLM organization an explicitly Marxist one with crazy ideas, like abolishing the nuclear family? Have they been disbanded?

Note: there is a distinction between that org. and the run of the mill BLM activists and demonstrators who aren’t necessarily (and are mostly not) affiliated with them.

The BLM Organization is rotten to the core, filled with professional race agitators and grifters (looking at you, Patrisse), but I'm also loving the hysterical Stormfront Queens (R11, R28, R58, R98, etc) going on totally unprovoked tangents and acting like Whiteness (not that they can give a clear definition of what it is) is God's gift to mankind and those Uppity Negroes should be more grateful. Makes you wonder if they act as subservient towards straight people... you know, the ones who pretty much built human society?

R154- Becomes unsafe?

We are WAY past that now.

[quote] Lol, that what it WAS in the 80s and 90s.

I miss Bronson

Also, even if the fraus and their families fled to the ‘burbs, it’s not like all the character of the city would come back, or the landlords—who shut down all the businesses that once made this city so awesome and fun to live in and explore—would suddenly have a change of heart. The city is OVER. The boring chain stores and restaurants and banks and CVSes are here to stay. It’s turning into a flyover city, whether they get the crime under control or not.

Landlords are shuttering all businesses in 6 story buildings because they want to sell to developers. Developers knock down 2 six story buildings and build a massive 50 story skyscraper in its place. With plenty of tax breaks for developers.

{quote]Uh, [R113], hate to break it to you but it isn't conservatives who are banning books, tearing down statues, revising American history, enforcing the tranny agenda and canceling anyone with a dissenting opinion these days.

I'm laughing at how many likes you got for this absolute BULLSHIT. It really is amazing how any post promoting white conservative bullshit racks up so many likes so quickly.

You must be a complete idiot. WTF do you think January 6th was about? Cancelling democracy itself. WTf do you think all of the voting laws are about? They're based on lies about voter fraud. You're whining about some some faux, hyperbolic "cancel" bullshit? Conservatives are literally sending death threats to their own over an infrastructure bill. You're talking about "cancelling"? And statues? That's the best you got? Which statutes being taken down actually offends you? The confederate shits who lost the war and their descendants being coddled to this day?

And you're a fucking liar about the book banning. So you have no fucking idea about VA and TX, huh?

Live on the East End, it’s so boring in winter. We were saving up to get a condo in Manhattan to go in winter (we don’t like hot weather places like FL & husband is spectrum, hates air travel). We left the city in 2010. But everything & everybody we knew is gone.. Everything seems so congested, yet at the same time empty.

We’re now musing maybe some place like Garden City or Rockville Center. We don’t need “pretty” because we have that already. We’re lonely. We want to see people. Manhattan is just boring now.

[quote]revising American history,

Liberals are revising history?? God, you fucking liar.

No, actually, it would be the conservatives who want to pretend the south weren't a traitorous group of fuckheads and want to both celebrate that loser, garbage past and pretend they weren't attempting to preserve the idea of humans as property. They want to ignore that second part and pretend that's not why they fought the fucking war. They're also trying to "revise history" and pretend January 6th didn't happen.

What is with you fucking trash? What exactly do you think you're defending? The ideology of Marjorie Taylor Greene and MAdison Cawthrone? What insanity do you think you're defending? Is that what your life has come to? And my God, the obsession with the tranny shit. Do you just wake up thinking about them? How the fuck are they actually dictating your life?

Cawthorne* Not that I even give a shit to correct his fucking name since he can barely spell himself.

The East End of what, R162?

To be completely fair, the current debate in VA is over whether these books should be banned or burned.

r161 the Wokes are on a frenzy with cancel culture. You must be an idiot not to realize that.

Yes, Trumptards suck too. You can dislike both, as many people do. We hate Trumpers but we also hate Wokesters and the perpetually offended and outraged. Most people are moderates.

R9 here...

Spoke to a neighbor yesterday evening who saw same guy who jacked Rite Aid other morning walk (not run) out of same store that morning with two huge shopping bags.

Bit later she saw him again at M79 bus stop at Third and 79th waiting to board bus. When it arrived the guy got on (without paying), and she looked down at contents of his bags; they were filled to capacity with Hagen Daz ice cream.

This man was *NOT* going to eat or keep all that ice cream, but again it was what everyone already knows. Stuff is fenced to bodegas and other places who buy for pennies on dollar, then resell.

Again this guy is at that Rite Aid every morning doing his "shopping" at 6AM sharp soon as they open. Employees, rent-a-cop security and even LE know his MO, and so far not a fucking thing has happened to put an end to his or anyone else's thieving

Rite Aid on UWS is closing, and I don't wonder why, and expect more to follow. Shelves in many Rite Aid, CVS, Duane Reade and Walgreens locally are bare to totally empty. People are just walking in and clearing out entire shelves, freezer or refrigeration cases of goods, then walking right out front door.

Conversely, I went to several Walgreens in the Connecticut suburbs and not only was nothing locked up (not even the razor blades!) but they had public restrooms, and the restrooms didn't require a key or anything, you could just go right in. What a change from NYC!

R30

When you look at demographics in many areas (including NYC) blacks aren't a huge population demographically, and often are in decline. It is only because liberal, progressive whites have jumped onto that BLM bandwagon that said cause has any real weight.

Liberal whites just as before will continue to co-sign onto this movement until things begin affecting themselves. Once that happens to great extent we shall start hearing a different story.

R156 If subservient to straights to you means not wanting to kill all fraus and fuck their men, I am. You are such a self righteous liberal bore who sees Stormfronter in anyone who don't agree with their opinion.

R170. That's because white libtards are naive children. Pollyannas who can't see the very real, unintended consequences of their agendas.

Aw, poor sputtering and spewing wokester @ R163 and R165 isn't getting any "likes". Waaaaaaaah?

^R161 and R163

White liberals want to have their own fairy tales, just like conservatives have religion.

r163 believes that a trans WOC threw the first brick. lol

[quote]When you look at demographics in many areas (including NYC) blacks aren't a huge population demographically, and often are in decline.

Link.

r17 that sounds like an after-the-fact justification used to explain away the program's failures. "no no no, stop and frisk wasn't bad at finding hidden guns. You see, the crooks were AFRAID to carry their guns around. It was actually a massive success". I'll admit that I was wrong about Adams wanting to bring back the program but your justification of it is laughable.

[quote]THIS ISN'T BLM. THEY HAVE BEEN OFFICIALLY DISAVOWED BY BLM. They're just a fringe group that's adopted the BLM moniker.

Then why did the mayor bother to meet with those thugs, R136? There is no official BLM. They are a rag tag group of loud mouthed attention whores, grifters and opportunists. No one should give them so much as the time of day, let alone a meeting.

The number of *unarmed* black people shot by police in the United States this year was 4. FOUR. That's all. I'll link to the Washington Post's police shootings database so you can check for yourself.

The police in the US need training on de-escalation and more restraint in use of force. And some departments seem to act like they are mobsters running a protection racket - however, there is no epidemic of police shootings of unarmed black men.

R189 exactly and Black men AND women make up a way higher percentage average of police officers

New Black women police officers outnumber white women 3-1, so I always laugh when people say police have it out for Blacks, because Black and other minorities make a significant amount of police themselves

This is why I’m not a fan of Democrats. They have no ability to lead. They let people like those in the OP say things like that because they’re taking money from them and they’re scared to piss off a big part of their base.

I think that’s where the phrase “we don’t get the President we want, we get the President we deserve” comes from.

I totally get why Trump got elected. Sometimes you just need an old white guy with a bunch of money who isn’t afraid to speak his mind. It’s perfect because nobody is afraid to dissent with him lest they be attacked.

And just my two cents on the racial discussion: I hesitate to ease into this discussion because of how sensitive it is, but honestly I think it has more to do with the lack of positive male role models in the Black community and so many young black men being raised solely by their mothers. I think “poverty” is too broad of a generalization; to keep perspective most of this country is made up of low income white people. There are whole states that are primarily white that don’t have anywhere the level of violence that Chicago or the Bronx have on a given weekend.

I think when you grow up constantly hearing your elders complain about white people you don’t ever learn accountability because you think no matter what you say or do it doesn’t matter. So you’re free to be indulgent.

That’s why I think black people and white people constantly talk past one another. Because I think most of us can acknowledge due to this country’s racist and discriminatory past, Black people have been disenfranchised and disadvantaged for decades and that will result in a certain amount of economic inequality. But it’s literally within your control if you have a bunch of kids you can’t afford, don’t emphasize education and families staying intact, glorify degeneracy in music and film, and if you decide to pick up a gun and shoot and kill someone, there is no white man helping you pull the trigger.

I think there’s too much feminine energy in the Black community and that’s just one white man’s opinion. Women are wonderful and to be cherished, but they don’t know how to take accountability. They will blame everybody in the world for their problems before they blame themselves. The world has a certain amount of sympathy for women so they can get away with it. Men with no sense of accountability are dangerous, though. Because not only are they capable of doing way worse, but the world is way less forgiving.

Any other sweeping generalizations you want to make R182? Damn, aren't you just a treat. I love how Americans love to turn, mainly, socioeconomic issues into issues of race. Everything you just wrote about the "black community" is just as prevalent in the "white community" or any other community, but the difference is for people like you the worst of the black community IS the entire black community. Poor and struggling people, who make choices that keep them trapped as poor and struggling people, act similarly regardless of complexion.

R183 I meant no disrespect to the Black community, but this article is about the head of BLM threatening violence if NYPD starts policing “like they used to”. Young black men are the biggest perpetrators of gun violence in this country. And while you’re absolutely right a lot of what I said applies to every other race to some extent, it’s really only the Black community being pandered to as if they have no power to stop some of this. And I don’t even entirely blame them for that — I started my post by criticizing Democrats. Instead of actually trying to help Black communities improve, they just whisper sweet-nothings in their ear, Black people pledge their undying fealty to them, and reliably attack anybody who doesn’t sell them a bill of goods.

Those saying NYC is dead are just out of touch. It is different than it was when you were young, but it is still totally alive with thriving art scenes, countless things to do, amazing shopping you don’t get in other cities, and interesting culture/food options.

If you live here it is still amazing. The young, creative types are out in deep Brooklyn, Queens, Harlem and the Bronx. There are amazing artists and musicians who show/perform all over the city (just not in mainstream Manhattan venues). If you want high end art, world class museums, or mainstream entertainment, it’s still huge in Manhattan.

At first, it seems that CVS, target and Starbucks has taken over. This is true in the village and Chelsea, but go Williamsburg, Greenpoint, Fort Green, or Astoria and it’s full of affordable interesting and quirky shops, cafes and restaurants.

Those of us who want nice things earn our money in Manhattan and spend long weekends at our homes in the Hamptons or upstate where we can escape the city and shop in high end stores in comfort.

Adams to terrorists: FUCK AROUND AND FIND OUT.

R183 Your view is politically correct, but is it true? There tend to be more violence in poor communities, but a lot depends on the mentality of some group of people. There are a lot of poor and unprivileged communities that aren’t violent. It depends on level of anger and I believe it is very toxic when people start to self victimize themselves and blame other groups of people. I know what I talk about, because before wars in Yugoslavia there was an intense period of self victimization of Serbians. So, people who were living peacefully started committing the worst atrocities against their neighbors. There were literally cases of people killing neighbors with which they were drinking coffee before war. In Serbian community it is rather easy to spark the self victimization, because of historical reasons that created mentality. They have a saying: All world against us. It seems to me that Black American people have this tendency of self victimizing which is strongly encouraged by white liberal guilt.

R180 The problem isn't just shootings by police. The problem is the gang like occupation in poorer neighborhoods and the overall environment of brutality, harassment and trauma that out of town, Long Island goons create. They are monsters, as are the people who support them.

Wishing the new NYC Mayor the very best in his new role and every success in fighting crime -and standing up to unacceptable threats of violence and rioting .

Just watch some of the Cop Watch videos shot by people who live int these neighborhoods. The shocking videos of assault and murder get all the attention, but it's the daily forms of harassment and menacing that create psychological trauma for the neighborhoods that Black people live in. If White people lived under these kinds of conditions, they would explode too. Think about how the constitution explicitly forbids unreasonable search and seizures by the government and yet Fascist Eric wants to be bring back stop and frisk, which is a violation of the fourth amendment. These types of conditions being created by the pigs are what starts revolutions. The far reich who are so outraged by Hawk's prophetic words seem to neglect to remember history and how it repeats itself.

[quote]Those of us who want nice things earn our money in Manhattan and spend long weekends at our homes in the Hamptons or upstate where we can escape the city and shop in high end stores in comfort.

And those of us who don't need to earn our living in NYC stay away entirely. We shop at high end stores, go to gallery openings, eat at fabulous restaurants and enjoy the beauty of nature in safe areas no where near that hell hole.

[quote]These types of conditions being created by the pigs are what starts revolutions

I have NO doubt, you'll be the first entitled, whiney "revolutionary" to call the "pigs" when YOU get attacked or your property stolen. I hope they laugh in your face and tell you to fuck off.

"Korean and Chinese have the highest IQs in the world and best discipline and work ethics"

Chinese? BWAAAAAAH.

You can go, if you " identify" as black. Expect to see Rachael Dolezal. BLM's gift to the theater community:

The strictly limited return engagement of Slave Play will begin performances Tuesday, November 23 ahead of an official opening night of Thursday, December 2 for a strictly limited eight-week engagement through Sunday, January 23, 2022. Tickets for the eight-week engagement are on sale now at www.seatgeek.com/slave-play-tickets or by visiting the August Wilson box office.

Additionally, the production announced that the first Black Out performance for the Broadway return will be Friday, December 3. This private, invitation-only performance will allow the Black-identifying audience to experience and discuss the play free from the white gaze. Harris birthed the idea of Black Out performances in the original Broadway run, in recognition of Broadway's rich, diverse, and fraught history with Black work.

I'll have you know that China has some of the world's hardest working photocopiers.

[quote] This private, invitation-only performance will allow the Black-identifying audience to experience and discuss the play free from the white gaze. Harris birthed the idea of Black Out performances in the original Broadway run

So they are excluding all white people from attending? Is that legal? And shouldn't it be called White Out?

Most broadway shows are are already "rich, white outs" due to the ticket price alone.

R156 You mean Patrisse "Four Homes" Cullors?

R191,

Where is that?

I’ve traveled extensively and lived in other cities, and I wouldn’t want to live any where other than NYC. We all have different preferences ans NYC isn’t for everyone. My post was to address Someone upthread who wrote that NY is dead. It most certainly is not. I still think it’s the greatest American city.

[quote] Adam’s ran on bringing back undercover cops. He won’t back down on this issue.

They did away with UCs? Okay that is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. How do you effectively root out all kinds of crime without using undercovers? Are you supposed to just wait for people to turn themselves in or expose their own crimes by, you know, actually committing them? How do you bring down crime rings which are usually very organized and use violence to enforce a code of silence?

I don't know how true that statement is but if it's across the board true then, yea, you cannot effectively solve and prevent crimes without UCs.

Id be okay with riots taking out the Rittenhouse family and that judge.

R190 You are so funny .

Do you think you can successfully raise the revolution just like that? Do you think you don’t need at least silent approval of disenfranchised majority. Do you think you don’t need strong outside support and allies.

Who will BLM raise the revolution with? White liberals? They would become more racist than hillbillies from the south if you truly wanted to change the society.

Most of revolution were fruit of decades of planning, calculating and organizing, waiting for the right moment. Lenin and gang waited until the end of first world war for the moment when the majority was hungry and had had enough of regime. Tito used 2nd world war, in which he led the strongest anti Hitler guerrilla in Europe and was backed by both Stalin and Churchill in the beginning. Mao Ze Dong used the chaos after 2nd world war. American founding fathers were backed by the strong majority and France. And so on.

Never has a minority successfully risen a revolution (at least if some strong foreign force wasn’t involved) that wouldn’t satisfy at least some basic needs of majority. But I appreciate your enthusiasm, it is obvious you are young.

R202, please STFU. Your kneejerkism is duly noted.

R182 A lot of these 'black' problems are incredibly becoming 'white' problems. It seems like black people are 20-30 years ahead of white people in cultural and socioeconomic decay. Drugs, single parent homes, lack of employment opportunities are plaguing Americans at different rates, but everyone is trending downwards in mobility. I think the lack of fathers is a big problem but since the 70s, offshoring and redundancy due to automation disproportionately hit black men and black men are disproportionately imprisoned on drug dealing offenses which is rather emasculating. Overall, the single marriage household issue seems to be reversing, but not because marriage rates are going up, but because women are forgoing having children at all. It's interesting how we went from "there are too many people, the planet is overpopulated", to a projected live birth rate that rivals South Korea's 0.92 births per woman that will not be able to sustain our social security ponzi scheme.

R205 Do you know how many refuges from the wars you led in Middle east are waiting to sustain your social security scheme?

R206 I'm not exactly sure what your point is. I have always been anti-interventionist.

[quote]Do you know how many refuges from the wars you led in Middle east

R206

Which "refugees" are you referring to? The ones who scammed the US for 20 years? The ones from overcrowded, failed societies looking for an easier life in the West?

[quote]Who will BLM raise the revolution with? White liberals?

Rich white liberals love having NYC as their playground, they're not going to support burning it down.

r206 those refugees don't pay into the system, they live off of the system

Maggie Haberman has the unmitigated gall to call other NY newspapers tabloids? LMAO!

R190 Your use of the word "pigs" kind of puts your objectivity and reasonableness in doubt.

R120, I think it's based more on who the perpetrators were. The fact is that if a single BLM protester or a Muslim had done to the Capitol what thousands of white conservative assholes did, you'd already see legislation to punish entire groups of people who had nothing to do with the actions of that one individual. If it had been an Ilhan Omar who inspired that one Muslim or any black congressperson who had inspired the attack or Obama had said the things Trump did, you'd see arrests and punishment within the government. If you had seen them act the way Greene or Cawthorn or Gosar or Brooks have behaved, you'd repercussion. We live in a suck country that allows this type of violent behavior to be rationalized and excused because they happen to be white. Bonus that they're conservative.

White privilege is very real.

you'd see repercussions*

It's funny that the intolerant wokesters call everyone, including liberal Dems on here, Nazis. Talk about projection.

[quote]We live in a suck country that allows this type of violent behavior to be rationalized and excused because they happen to be white.

R214 Black privilege is very real. Especially when it serves to reinforce socially-entrenched bigotry. Sharpton, Jackson, Farrakhan are just some of the bigoted members of the black community who have been rewarded for their vicious bigotry. I can't think of a more perfect illustration of black bigot privilege than this.

Or this.

People who say "NY is dead," don't live in NY and if they do, they're failures.

Anyone in my neighborhood could sell a home today for a good amount.

Broadway has shows that have all-white audiences. They are called Sondheim musicals.

Sharpton is another level from Jackson and even Farrakhan. Sharpton is a huckster and conman pure and simple. He is not above trying to intimidate the jurors via thinly veiled statements that they will be doxed and should be fearful if they make the wrong decision.

"So they are excluding all white people from attending? Is that legal?"

They say it's for anyone who identifies as black. Besides, it's invitation only.

Segregation is the new form of being anti-racist according to neo-leftists.

Fair is fair. I invite whites only to my parties all the time.

R224 snow queen

[Quote] Do you think you can successfully raise the revolution just like that?

There have been large, anti-police protests in the city and across the country for years, building up each year in intensity and power. These movements are not brand new and just developing. They have been mobilizing since at least Occupy Wall Street and then when Black Lives Matter began after the murder of Trayvon Martin. The riots of last summer came from the mobilization of the previous riots of Ferguson and Baltimore before it. They didn't just happen spontaneously or overnight.

[Quote] Do you think you don’t need at least silent approval of disenfranchised majority.

That approval is there in the form of people not voting, which is a form of disapproval of the system and an approval of an attempt to topple it. Popular systems have high voter turnout. Lower voter turnouts are signals of votes of no confidence. The US loves to point this out in regards to Iran's elections, but it is even more applicable here at home. The opposition to the movement isn't as strong as the media would like you to think it is. Last summer was the largest mobilization of people in the streets in US history, more than the civil rights movement of the 60's. That type of thing doesn't just peter it and die. It builds into a revolution if the demands of the people are not met (which they have not been, nor will be).

[Quote] Do you think you don’t need strong outside support and allies.

I'm sure China, Russia and a bunch of other countries would give their support if a conflict began. A destabilized US would circumvent any attempt by the US military to involve themselves in Taiwan or Ukraine, which is something both nations would desire and find to be a desirable outcome. They'd rather the fighting happen here domestically than on their shores. It's in their geopolitical interests to support an insurgency and they recognize this, hence their boosting of the riots last night on social media.

[Quote] Who will BLM raise the revolution with?

The poor, homeless, disenfranchised and all nations that see the US as an adversary, including ones that the US thinks of as an ally, but isn't, like the nations of the EU which were ready to place sanctions on us after Trump attempted a coup earlier this year.

[Quote] White liberals? They would become more racist than hillbillies from the south if you truly wanted to change the society.

White liberals opposed the American Revolution as well, but they eventually accepted it once it was a fait accompli or fled the new nation to Canada or the UK. Same thing would happen here.

[Quote] Never has a minority successfully risen a revolution (at least if some strong foreign force wasn’t involved) that wouldn’t satisfy at least some basic needs of majority. But I appreciate your enthusiasm, it is obvious you are young.

As I've said, don't assume that any revolution wouldn't have foreign backing. As more people come to realize that our system cannot provide adequate justice, there will be a revolt. It's not naivety, but an understanding of history. You'll see it soon enough.

[Quote] Your use of the word "pigs" kind of puts your objectivity and reasonableness in doubt.

I've never said I was objective, nor claimed to be, nor have to be to know what I'm talking about. Deal with it.

Cops are the ones standing between you and the criminal element of any color.

I am not a huge cop supporter, but I sure as hell do not want to live in a world without them.

None of these so called self proclaimed "activists" appear to be actually speaking for the people who live in these communities. The ones that are living in a war zone and being victimized.

In my area, the people who live in the most violent and crime ridden area, WANT more police. Not less.

^Oh yeah, Occupy Wall Street and BLM were so successful *snort*. They have and will continue to push the pendulum very far in the opposite direction. Average, hard working citizens of all colors are fed up.

R226 is too dim to know how great this shit show is for me and my ilk. I love it when someone else does all the work for me.

R224 Are you Steve Lacy?

R202, So you are crying tears over a dead pedophile who raped 5 boys under 12? The other one beat and choked a woman. The third is just a career criminal. All IMPRESSIVE people that were going somewhere in life!

Ask yourself this. Why were 3 felons out on the streets that night? Did someone encourage them to come out? They just happened to be randomly out strolling the neighborhood? At least one had a gun.

I don't simp for fucking violent felons.

To those who assume that there wouldn't be immediate foreign involvement in any domestic revolt by groups like Black Lives Matter, Chinese and Russian state actors were stirring the pot last summer during the riots. They would be giving additional assistance as well, depending on how involved the groups get with the respective nations. Political and moral support are a given. Economic and even military support aren't out of the question either. The US would lose if a revolt occurred with foreign backing and a refusal of other nations like the EU to come to their aid.

[quote]The US would lose if a revolt occurred with foreign backing and a refusal of other nations like the EU to come to their aid.

Um, no. The US could handle an uprising quite effectively on its own.

Well will look at that....

Yeah we already looked at it in Op from the NY Daily News.

New York is such a shithole. respectable people should just leave and leave the city to the criminals and crooks running it.

Why is the threat of rioting the only solution black people can muster?

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Yeah, you elected a good one there, New Yorkers. But then, who expected you to break the chain of electing terrible people?

R226 Comrade, Putin would support BLM if it would help him to destabilize USA, but it wouldn't help the cause. BLM are never gonna be the leaders of the disenfranchised masses in US, because they are sectarians and they are supported by a very law percentage of said masses.

You have a big problem in US, and that is the great racial divide. White liberals who have influence in media and institution are supporting the self victimization and anti white sentiments in black people turning them against all whites (of which majority is almost equally unprivileged as whites), not because they really have white liberal guilt, but because of divide and rule politics. On the other side conservative republicans have a great treasure in Trump that can attract poor whites (white trash as politically correct wokes call them) from parts of US that are living in 3rd world conditions. Of course, BLM will help rich minority to enhance the racist prejudices and fears in "white trash" and further push them in Trumps arms. The whites that fashionably support the BLM are not the whites with which you can make a difference. They are the "Change everything so everything can remain the same" type of revolutionaries. They want their place in society untouched, only with some Oscar for Will Smith.

If the BLM would hypothetically lead the revolution the bloodshed would happen between white, latino and black proletarians, and the it would soon be pacified. When socialist revolution succeed in ex Yugoslavia it was lead by Tito, a Croatian (with Slovenian mother ans Serbian wife) that was trusted by Serbs, Bosnian Muslims, Albanians from Kosova etc. He and communist party put class before nation and religion and that was the glue that kept Yugoslavia together. You know how it ended thanks to nationalist agitators.

R240 I never stated outright how it would end or what would become of the US. I simply said there will be a revolt and it will have foreign backing, both of which are becoming more apparent. The question of who leads the country in the aftermath depends on what the country will specifically look like post war. It's possible that, to address such sectarian lines along race, religion and political affiliation, that the nation is split up and partitioned, the way Germany was after World War 2 or India's severance to create the state of Pakistan. To assume Black revolutionaries would lead the entire country is to assume that they have any such desire on a wide scale basis or believe the US' national integrity should remain in place.

[quote]Yeah, you elected a good one there, New Yorkers. But then, who expected you to break the chain of electing terrible people?

Still trying to figure out what he's done or said that's so bad.

Actually Adams may be the diuretic NYC needs.

Be careful when you go too far, the pendulum always swings back further. This could be the result.

R241 Or like the Yugoslavia, which split in six poor and insignificant, but nationally and religiously clean countries, to be the toys for Merkel and Putin to play.

I know Yugoslavia without The, to correct before Grammar Nazi arrives.

[quote]They say it's for anyone who identifies as black.

Like Justin Timberlake and Miley Cyrus.

^^Don't forget me!

Where are you from, R240? You're all over DL bloviating your opinions about life in the US, haughtily explaining us to ourselves (*snort*), yet you seem unable to communicate properly in our language. Here let me fix a few things for you.

THE US

A great racial divide

THE rich majority

THE majority

Trump WHO can attract

AS equally underprivileged

BLM (not "the" BLM)

Bloodshed (not "the" bloodshed)

SucceedED in ex Yugoslavia

HIS Slovenian mother

WHO was trusted

THE communist party

And at R245.......THE Grammar Nazi (thank you very much)

R248 You made such an effort, Grammar Nazi! Maybe you can correct my posts on DL and I can pay you to make them look prettier. Since you obviously have no life.